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Lakey-Breaky Heart

This week’s podcast is presented by Stephen and Jacqueline.

We hear from:

Globe-trotting Richard, who feels we dissed his sister last week;
Jade from Australia, who has a prediction following Tuesday’s big reveal;
Andrea from Beautiful Brittany, who was driven to read about a plague of rats, then summoned back by Susan - it’ll make sense when you hear her call;
Glyn, who is looking for somewhere to stay in Ambridge;
Witherspoon, who has his report card ready for the participants in Thursday’s high drama;
Gennie with a G from Coventry, who is concerned about Emma;
And finally Elizabeth, who was riveted by Thursday’s episode;

We also have emails from Lilian and Vicky and a WhatsApp message from Helen in Hampshire.

Plus: we have the Week in Ambridge from Suey, and a roundup of the Dumteedum Facebook group, and the Tweets of the Week from Michelle.

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Duration:: 1h 10m
Broadcast on:: 08 Sep 2024
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This is a Royfield Brown production. Find others on Apple Podcasts. [MUSIC] This is Dumty Dum, a weekly podcast about the arches and the goings-on of Ambridge. I'm Stephen Bowden, and I've never been for a proper walk up Lakey Hill. Oh, and I'm Jacqueline Bertow, who has enjoyed quality time this week. And then there's you, our lovely Dumty Dummies, dancing the night away at Julie's. Welcome to Dumty Dum. A place to talk about the things that are happening in our favourite Borsettshire village. This week's scripts were written by Sarah McDonald Hughes, who's followed recent tradition by delivering another absolutely stunning Thursday episode, and in this case, followed by Brilliant and Stormy One on Friday. Coming up, we have calls from Globe Trotting Richard, who feels we dissed his sister last week. Jade from Australia, who has a prediction following Tuesday's big reveal. Andrea from Beautiful Brittany, who has driven to read about a plague of rats, then summoned back by Susan. It'll all make sense when you hear her call. Glen, who is looking for somewhere to stay in Ambridge. With a spoon, who has his report card ready for the participants in Thursday's high drama. Jenny with a G from Coventry, who is concerned about Emma. And finally Elizabeth, who was riveted by Thursday's episode. We also have emails from Lillian and Vicki, and a WhatsApp message from Helen in Hampshire. Plus we have the Week in Ambridge from Sui, a roundup of the Dumty Dum Facebook group, and the Tweets of the Week from Michelle. So let's start by reminding ourselves of what happened over the last seven days, with the Week in Ambridge from Sui. Well, hello lovely people in Sui, Queen, or Tart here. And a roundup of this week in Ambridge. Well, there were other things that happened this week. So let's just get those out of the way before we get to the main event. Ambridge won the cricket match, George got a four and then a six in the last three balls. They got promoted in their league, or much delight all round, except for Clive, who got sent off with a flea in his ear by Emma. If only we had known that she just needed to shout at him and cancel his B and B, he could have pushed off a week ago, but what would have been the fud in that? Brad is off to Felpish, I'm doing maths. Mia is off to Newcastle. So they went for a picnic on Lakey Hill. It sounded lovely to be honest, until he dumped her, just in case she dumped him later on, after she'd crossed the border into Jordyland. The previous night they'd both given their wisdom to a meeting of the newly formed Lifter Committee, which has been chaired by Jack, you know, the small boy, eight-year-old Jack. Normally, the duties of chair in Ambridge seem to involve baking lemon drizzle cake, or providing similar snacks, but Jack doesn't seem to be spending his pocket money on cheese, instead Joy provided luxury biscuits, and he's going to give him some backup. Ian has taken over his gold star number one parent of the year, well, going to be a parent governor or something like that, volunteering for everything and launching into the group chat, as Xander started school. Adam successfully backed away from all of that, well done him. There was a sound with a ginormous penny-dropping. Joy mentioned to Susan that she only sold Alice vodka, and the fruit cider was bought by. Dun, dun, dun, George. Susan is clearly not as green as she's cabbage-looking, and with the aid of Joy's clues, she realized that George is a wronger. She has clearly not heard us all shouting at radio for the last several months. The following day, she went round with our real hero, Neil, and there was a bit of a tense five minutes before Emma fessed up, and they summoned George back to face the music. Of course, this was the night that Edwin Emma were off in a B&B doing something agricultural with sheep, but then they got back and the yogurt really hit the fount. George has been allowed to leave the police station, but they will be charging him soon. We don't know quite what yet, but Edwin Emma are on very shaky ground. Willy's pouty that they did it without him. Emma shouted at her mum and dad, oh, what a palava. And George is proper miffed, what he plumbing deserves to be. Well, we'll have to wait and see what happens next week. It sounds certain there's going to be trouble. Thank you for that, Sui. So, Jettlyn, how has your week been? Well, it started off straight after the last cast recording last Saturday morning with a round trip to Paris to, I think, I've actually discovered there's something criminal about life in France. You often find flats that are fairly reasonably priced in a co-location, how do we say, a flat share, a flat share. But they're always on the fifth row and there's never a staircase. This is twice I've moved my daughter into exactly the same hook. And four years ago, it was very, very much easier than it was this year. So now I'm determined, I don't know about doing couch to five, I think I need to do couch to climbing up five floors with a flat area. She's safely settled in and started her job on Wednesday. So there we have our anomaly in Paris, but otherwise the week has just been building up to getting back to normal with school going back and classes and courses, granny cycling and actual work all started this week. So I've been occupied. Good, good. What about you, Stephen? An interesting thing happened this week. I was talking to a colleague of mine about the archers and she said that her mother was a big fan of the archers. And so I asked whether she listened to podcasts and yes, she listened to podcasts. So I said, oh, do tell her about Dumpty Dum. Top of days later, she came back to me to say, not only had she already discovered Dumpty Dum, but her mother absolutely loved it and thought that a very intelligent woman and a very intelligent man who presented the podcast. So here's a shout out to Georgina's mum. I'm glad that you have found Dumpty Dum, and I'm glad that you enjoy listening to us. And I hope you continue to do so. And maybe even you could call in. Yes, I'll be brilliant. Welcome, Georgina's mum. That's quite enough about us. Let's get on to the important bit, which is you, our lovely choral ruiners. And let's see who we've got first up. It's going to be Richard. Hello, Tiger. Hi, Richard, coding in from a team. A bit sorry you dissed my big sister Helen when she called in with a plot prediction. Mine is the honest relationship with Denise. It's going to be rocked by interest from the captain of Boil Sashikass's mum. She sounds much more interested in the Denise. Apart from that, I was struck by the way Steven, who's work I love on his podcast. This is my comments about Natasha not being a proper entrepreneur because she can't go on holiday. As can't cut. Because he was saying they're not very innovative. Lots of very successful entrepreneurs aren't that innovative in their product life. And so you have to squeeze, I don't think the audience here is interested in this, but you just have to squeeze more productivity out of your operation. There's two things better, faster, cheaper than your competition. And Procter & Gamble just made soap for goodness sake or Nestle makes porridge. The people who said about being entrepreneurial by figuring out they could do it better rather than doing something particularly new. A situation where you have Honda got famous, leading major bikes. And he said he didn't invent them. And he started on a second hand bike repair shop. So I don't agree with you on that. And the key thing that I should do is take the risk of starting something up. That's the lunacy of entrepreneurs is trying to do it all yourself. Which doesn't mean they're good at it. Just think about the mindset. Apart from that, I'm not sure that Alice's ease of hypnotherapy is going to stand up in court. I love that there were a lot of things like this, but I wouldn't be surprised if the prosecution can be all over the family. But this is hypnotherapy and used false numbers around the real thing. Keep out the good work. And I forgot to thank the Facebook person. Bye. Thank you for that, Richard. Oh, sorry, you feel that we dissed your sister and yourself. Yeah, Helen's prediction for last week was about relationships, wasn't it? And I agree with Richard on this one that I'm not sure Alistair's relationship with Denise is going to withstand all the fuss. And plus, I don't know if it's going to be about Laura, Sassy Cassie's mum. But I have my suspicions that the stress and strain of what we've just gone through with the breakup of her marriage and the fuss from Paul, it's gone very quiet on that front this week. I still am not too sure about where that relationship is going and how they'll cope. And how they'll cope with Jim as he gets older and living. I was all very confused. Now, I want to push back slightly against Richard's accusation of dissing his sister, because dissing, that's short for disrespecting. And I don't think I've disrespected Helen at all. I disagreed with her. And that's a very different thing. And I think that, well, Richard in that very call said that he disagreed with me, but I'm not going to accuse him of dissing me. I think I'm happy to agree that I disagreed with Helen. And I have disagreed with Richard in the past. But I have never, I hope, disrespected, either of them. I think you're a very respectful person, Stephen. I'm still not sure about Natasha being an entrepreneur. I'm not sure what she has actually done. As far as I can see, she just presses and sells juice, and it's all in the marketing. But didn't she create, didn't she create juice, fresh juice, or whatever it's called? Summer orchards. Summer orchards, they can. Well, she created a company, but there's no innovation there. There's nothing, there's not even doing something particularly better as far as I can see. She just makes boring juice and then calls it aspirational. I think we've got the cut of your gin. It was for us and Natasha is concerned. To be continued, I imagine that conversation. Quite possibly. Well, I hope Richard is enjoying on tea, but I have to say that the sound quality in on tea is considerably better than from this banana board or the various other places he's called in from. So do carry on holiday in on tea, Richard. And also, it should be very careful this weekend because you're due to have a lot of very heavy rain in that area. Sorry. It's already happened to you by the time you listen to this. Let's move from a completely different part of the world. This is Jade in Australia. Hello, everyone at Dumpty Dum. It's Jade coloring in from Australia. I am calling in after Tuesday's episode, and I imagine I'm not the only one who yelled finally out loud when Joy told Susan about the cider. Oh my goodness. I was so happy and but I love that they are just does this. In the same episode, you get this big relief when they finally share something with the character that we've known for a long time. But at the same time, Joy says something cryptic about family reminding us that we still want to know what's happening with Rochelle. Where is she? So yes, so I loved it. My prediction is that Susan will go to her daughter Emma and Emma will crack and tell her everything. Susan will be like, you have to tell the police because now you're corrupting the force of justice or whatever. And yeah, it will all come unraveling. So yes, that's my prediction. And I also just want to say I absolutely loved last week's episode of Dumpty Dum and Tracy from California, your idioms make me laugh at loud. So thank you. Please don't stop calling in. And I loved everybody's calls. Okay. Talk to you all soon. Have a great week. Bye. Thank you for that call Jade. And yes, I noticed Joy is slightly cryptic remark about families when she was talking to Susan about the fruit cider. And I was very impressed by your prediction because what you predicted just happening on the back of Susan's discovering that George had bought the cider is exactly what did happen. Susan went with Neil to see Emma and Emma, as you say, cracked, explained everything, and was persuaded to call the police, though there were a bit of a follow on from that on Friday. But I think we'll get on to that shortly. But yes, I just thought that the whole way that it unfolded this week, we've been waiting for it and waiting for it, and finally it all happened, and we could see it falling into place, but not in an incredibly predictable way in a very naturalistic and realistic way, which led up to those two fantastic episodes. Absolutely. Even down to the point where Neil was actually slightly reluctant to talk to Emma, because Susan drank him along, and he obviously has always been rather skeptical about George and his attitude, and the way he is. He fired him, didn't he? From Barrow. Barrow, that's right. Got the name. The bio-hygiene business. The sausage roll business. Exactly. The sausage roll business. Yeah, I felt that a brilliant prediction, Jane, after Tuesday's episode, and yeah, exactly what Stephen says. It did roll out in exactly that way, and it was right. I felt right to me that it was Susan and Neil that went to see their daughter when Ed and Will were not around. We'll get to talk about Ed and Will a bit later on, I think. Okay, time for our next call, and that one is time for our next call, and this one is from Andrea. Hi, Elizabeth, Jacqueline, Stephen. All your lovely dumping demos all over the world is Andrea from beautiful, Bruce and he's calling in after Tuesday's episode, and what a boring, boring start. It was, "Oh, Adam, and Ian, turning on, oh, I must admit, I did wander off and I started reading article about rats in cities, which was actually quite interesting, believe it or not, and because it was a French written word, each now needed an adjective, so we didn't just have rats in cities, we had plague of rats, and a very tabular plague, and calamitous plagues, or it was so exciting, certainly more exciting than Adam and Ian. And then suddenly, somewhere in the far distance, I heard Susan's voice saying, "Buckle of vodka washed down with fruit cider," and I went, "Oh, what? Oh, am I going to say it was so surprising I dropped my phone?" But it wasn't actually as bad as it could have been dropping my phone because I dropped it onto my laptop, my naturally, amply-covered lap, so at last something is happening, yay! So we've had Holmes and Watson, more some Lewis, and now it's Neil and Susan, "Oh, yes, come on, you can solve it." Great, Andrea. Goodness knows why you're reading about rats, but I know you're a ferret lover, so that's probably connected, yeah. This week has been a very interestingly written week because nobody's called in about the cricket and the fabulous win and the move up the league table by Ambridge. Nobody's called in about Brad and Mia, I'm going off to university. Nobody's talked about the lit, I think we've got an email coming up about where somebody talks about the Adam and Ian thing. I don't find Adam and Ian as boring as a lot of people find them. I like Ian a lot. Adam, I don't like his delivery, so that kind of taints the feelings about it, but this whole take-in asander to school and meeting Lottie there has been a very curious thing for me. I didn't quite realise, well, if Lottie was there, why wasn't Pip there? Because there's not Lottie's child in the same class as Pip's daughter, Rosie? Yes, I think Maddie and Rosie are in the same year, and I absolutely was thinking the same thing. Why is Lottie there talking to Adam and Ian and no sign of Pip at the very least Adam and Ian could, if they're taking asander all the way to Penny has it, they could take Rosie along too? Yes, but it was the first day, wasn't it, and it was their first day taking their child in, but I don't think the anybody does share lifts on the first day, by the end of the first week and what is bored with doing it. There's no sign of Rosie and it would have been her first day back at school as well. Why wasn't she there coming out with Maddie? No, I know, very strange, it was a very strange, trying to, I felt like it was a forced connection between Lottie, and so Lottie keeps slotting in and out of the story, so she's obviously going to be a fairly permanent character in the arches, even if intermittent, but as we know most characters are a bit intermittent. I don't remember when we last heard from Ian, so... So Ian was more than a year ago, I think. It was when Helen was going through the second time round robbed thing, wasn't it? Or was it with Susan when they became very pally? I think it was more recent than that, but the other person who's backed up for a very long absence was Mia, it was the first time we've heard from her for quite a few months. I think it's possibly the first time this year. Yes, I don't remember hearing her voice for ages, but that's another story that has actually been very delicately written, I felt between Brad and Mia this week, it was very sweet and then they're going up like you ill and that bit making all this. Then Brad, dumping Mia, was kind of very typical for this time of year, but it was very topical for me. Yes, I thought it was well handled. I know that some people have said it's so unrealistic and some, but I can see Brad just tying himself in knots and ending up doing that, and I think that it's not the end for them. I think that something will work out. There have been suggestions that Mia might not go to Newcastle, I don't think that's going to be the case. I think she'll definitely go. I think she'll definitely go. I have my doubts as to whether Brad will find his place at Felpashurm, we've always said that. You specifically have said that he should be going somewhere, near-ish, but a better university, but not that we know really much about Felpashurm University, although the academic actors have had a jolly good go at telling us. I just feel the only thing about Mia at the end of this week was her absolute support of her stepmother in Friday's episode. She came on very, very strongly about supporting George, and is it a case of your family? You might be a horror, but you're my horror. I thought that was a very interesting scene. The whole conversation involving George and George saying we each have a role to play, and there's only room for one failure in this family and I'm the failure. It was a sort of self-awareness that didn't really match with the previous engagement with Clive and stuff like that. No, and it's panic, and it seemed to have gone down from being panic level to actually cold acceptance, which I didn't feel was realistic for George. Yeah, I think that George at the end of Thursday's episode was very realistic. The George on the Friday's episode was just a bit too philosophical to show no bent towards philosophy whatsoever. No, we don't. I don't think many people have said much love for George this week or any other week, but this week I did feel a twinge of, "Oh my God, he's completely lost the plot." And when he's been so awful to his mother and then blaming her for shopping him to the police, and that vicious way he spoke to her was heartbreaking. Yes, particularly if it then caused her to blame her mother. Yeah, absolutely, to pass these things down the line. So thank you for your call, Andrea. I'm sorry that you were bored at the beginning of Tuesday's episode, enough to wander off to the rats and cities, but I'm glad it brought you back. It's quite interesting that we had a couple of calls this week for people recording after Tuesday's episode. Yes, but Tuesday was where we got the knowledge that it was all going to happen, I think, and then Wednesday was almost waiting for things to spread, piecing it, the whole thing, and then we had the clients on Thursday Friday. But let's go back to earlier in the week and hear from Glenn. Hello, Dan Tidam. It's Glenn here calling in on Thursday, a few minutes after there were five million shouts of joy and relief as Emma called the police, and then we heard what we presumed to be their knock at the door. My prediction for what happens next is a massive falling out between Will and Ed, and that Brad will be waiting a very long time for the pint George promised him earlier in the episode. But, of course, there may be some more developments on that in the Friday episode, so I will stop there on that subject. My second point is, as I've gone around the country this summer, many of the villages we have visited have had a very large number of Airbnb's or other holiday rental cottages, and where are all the Airbnb's in Ambridge? It must be the only attractive village in the whole of England not to have any, or to have very few indeed from what we know, and why isn't this more of an issue in the village? Well, that's my time up. Stay safe. Thanks for podcast. Bye. Thank you for that call, Glenn, and I'm going to say one of the things I say regularly, and Jacqueline hears me saying on a regular basis, there are 168 hours in a week. There are 500 people living in Ambridge, something like that. We hear from a few dozen of them for 75 minutes a week. So there's a lot that's going on in Ambridge that we never see or hear anything about. We are privy to the goings on at one, two, two Airbnb establishments, Ambridge Hall and Brookfield. When Brookfield was a Airbnb establishment. We don't know what else is going on. We don't know how many people come into the shop when the microphones aren't there. We don't know how many people do other things in the village. All we know is the people that we see. So we can't be sure that there are no Airbnb's in Ambridge, and it might well be that there's a normal amount, but they don't trigger a storyline because the sort of development storylines, the use of land, the use of property storylines, we've got the charging station as one of those. We've had the development at Beechwood. We've had a few other things. We've had the whole business of Hannah looking for accommodation and struggling to find it. Now, that would have been an opportunity for somebody to mention that all the stuff that used to be for living in has now turned into Airbnb. They didn't do that, but that still doesn't mean that there isn't Airbnb. So I'm just going to say my usual thing. The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. I kind of agree with you on this occasion, but I've always wondered about accommodation. And we have accommodation at Great Gables, and obviously we've got the bed and bed first at the snare with the snails, and as you said, Brookfield. We've also got accommodation and a wedding venue with accommodation at Lower Locksley. We don't hear much about those kind of things, I think, because that was a development of the tithe barn that Elizabeth did. I've got that all wrong. They do weddings there, but I don't think they've got accommodation, do they? For some reason in my mind, I had that there was accommodation for the bridal party, but maybe not. Maybe I've just imagined that. Maybe I thought that would be a logical thing, so I've slotted it into the story myself. But a whole accommodation going around the country, as you say, Glenn, and seeing these lockboxes everywhere, so you know that people are. It's not a phenomenon that I know of, but I have to say, this last week I've been looking for accommodation in the North Wales area, and I did a search for somewhere just for overnight or for two nights, and good gracious, there is such a lot of accommodation available. So maybe second homes are no longer just second homes, they're homes that are used for holidays and for letting out to earn you a bit of money, don't know. I don't know, I'm going away for a few nights next week, and I'm just going to a very nice bed and breakfast I stayed in once before when I was doing office dyke, so I'm going back there. I didn't look for Airbnb's in Kington in the depths of Herafordshire, but... Well, you never know, it might be loads. I just happened, I like this place, and I think if you found a bed and breakfast that you like, definitely stick to it, because they are getting rarer, I believe. Shall we move on to our next call? Yeah. This one starts like this. Y'all know how this goes. Hey baby, I hear the blues are calling toss salads and scrambled eggs, sir. Greetings Jacqueline. Steven and all Duntee Darrows who are in the world. With a spinneningous hagoth here, call her intering after the episode we've all been waiting for. First, I must tip my cap to Susan, which I don't do very often. Frequently, she's judgmental and a gossip, but on some occasions like today, she can be very insightful and very supportive. I gave her an A+, or as I believe you say, an A*. Neil, while still great in the episode, received an A, as he was a little ambivalent about talking with Emma, not wanting to stir the pot, fearful of her reaction. Susan understood the need to immediately intervene because of her own history of being manipulated by her brother and its consequences. Mantral George used his mother's love to control her. How many times did we have to endure him whining, but you made a promise you wouldn't tell? I especially loved when Susan said that Emma needed to make the call to the police. She saw that her daughter needed both protection and guidance, and in this case, it was the right thing to do. I can't wait for Friday's episode. Will Harrison be the policeman at the door? What will Justin say to Alice when the truth becomes public? Hmm, I wonder if you can get a free, scalding hot latte with your big slice at the humble pie cafe. Talk to you soon. Yes, with a spinn, I think we're all gleefully waiting for Alice. Well, or Lillian, I think Lillian will put Justin very much in his place and make him humble pie, but yes, the scalding hot latte, that would go down really well with Justin, wouldn't it? I was quite interested by the fact that Emma said that when she took George to the police station, she wasn't allowed in because he's an adult, and with a spinn referred to George then as the man child, and that is exactly the character of George, this whining, hanging on to mummy, abusing mummy, abusing mummy, and yet he is actually an adult and classed by the police as an adult. So how did you think Susan came across, Steven, because like with a spinner, we both, I think, find her bit judgmental and gossipy at times, and she gets an A-star from with a spoon this week. And A-plus from with a spoon, which is an A-star in A-levels. I think these days that'd be a nine in GCSEs, but nobody would understand if we said. No idea. She gets a nine, I'm still not used to these new grades where a seven is what an A used to be, I think, an A-star. Oh, blimey, don't even get me started, I have no idea. But how did you think Susan was in her approach to A with telling Neil, because she was definitely devastated and not quite believing herself on the Wednesday nights episode, but then when they went to confront Emma, how did you think Susan was? Well, I think that she was very much thinking back to her own situation back in the '90s when she was sheltering Clive, and I think that the advice she gave Emma about thinking about what it would mean for Keira, particularly as Emma was clearly rapped with guilt over the way that she had reacted to Susan's imprisonment and how she had not wanted to go and see Susan, because she blamed her for the problems, didn't stop Emma from blaming Susan-- Again, yeah. --or briefly again. So I think that Susan handled it just right. I think that both Susan and Neil played a blinder there. Neil, I noticed that Witherspoon marks him down slightly for his reluctance, but he was the one that asked Emma what, I think, will be one of the longer term key questions, is why didn't you tell Ed? Yeah. And I think they'll be all right in the end. I don't think that's going to break that marriage up. Neither of them have said anything that can't be rode back at this point. So I don't think that that relationship is going to be destroyed by this, but there are so many other things that will be. But I think that Susan did get it right, I think, that she was almost quite cold in her approach to Emma, telling her how she had to do what she had to do. But I think that that was because she knew that that's the only way that she was going to get able to get through to Emma. So I think she did a really good job. Yeah. So I agree. That was going to be my point as well, that is I felt that Susan went away from her slightly inflammatory way of talking to being this cold analytical person explaining exactly what will happen if she doesn't shop George. And I just thought it was so powerful, powerful coming from Susan because we know her so well as somebody who's very quick to go into screechy mode. Yeah. Excellent. And I can agree with with a spoon on the Susan thing, but I can never agree on marking that Neil down ever. So those are the first few calls and there are a couple more to come. If you'd like to join in by calling us yourself or dropping us a line by message or email, Chatellene is here to tell you how and all the details are also in the show notes. So the first option is to record a message or a plot prediction by going to www.speedpipe.com/dumptydum. 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Rediscover possibility with BetterHelp. Visit betterhelphelp.com today to get 10% off your first month. Now we'll hear from somebody we haven't heard from for, I think just over a year now, it's Jenny with a G. Hello, it's Jenny with a G from Compentry. I don't know what Friday's episode is going to bring, but I'm recording this like 10 minutes before it starts, but I'm really, really looking forward to it. I think there's going to be so many repercussions from George being arrested. I think the ripples from it will catch everyone in the village. I think my concern is for Emma. She could really find herself isolated from the village, from Ed, from Chris, from Kate, from Fallon, but actually I think it's Alice that's going to provide some sympathy and understanding. I just think Alice is going to be pleased to know that she didn't back out and she didn't drink drive. I just can't wait to see if I'm right. Anyway, hit an anticipation for Friday's episode. Thank you for that call, Jenny. Good to hear from you again. And yes, I think you're absolutely right about the ripples spreading out from this. I think this story has the potential to impact more people in the village than any of the other big stories have recently. And I mean more even than the Helen and Rob thing, which was really very much concentrated within one family and more than the event, which supposedly was going to shake Ambridge to the core, which was Nigel falling off the roof. And again, that was very much within the cozy embrace of the Archer family, whereas this one cuts across it involves obviously the Carter's, the Grundy's, the Horribins, but also the Aldridge's, Fallon and Harrison and the people in the book. And wider than that, because everybody will have been involved one way or another. Joy was in the car that was hit with Mick, Alistair and Denise were there, witnessing it at the time. So everybody has a stake in all of this. And that issue of whether Emma was going to get isolated, I think we saw what happened to her right at the end of Friday's episode. She is struggling with Ed, but as I said earlier, I think that they're going to be able to work their way through that. But it's not going to be easy for them. It's not going to be easy for the relationship with Will with Emma having shopped George to the police without consulting Will. She was right to do that as Susan made clear, but it's going to be difficult for Will to get through. And then, yeah, she is going to struggle a lot and she was struggling lashing out at her parents. Yeah, and Ed was the voice of reason when he came in and heard her really bawling them out. She was very reasonable. And I've always thought of Ed as being more reasonable, the more reasonable of the two brothers. I think Will has always been very up and down and his reaction to when they walked in to find that George had been being shopped by Emma. Will was furious, wasn't he? He used everything, emotional, black, male, he said, "Why would you do that when I wasn't here?" Stuff like that. I just found it. The contrast between the brothers was very great and I am hoping that it won't destroy the relationship between Ed and Emma for lots of reasons, but I would never want her to get back with Will, but I think there will be implications in the future between the two brothers and also on the tree-filling business which Will has invested in. We shall see how that one works out, and it's very, very interesting. Good to hear from you again, Jenny. And I am hoping that Alice will come out of this in a good light. Richard Eliron talked about, he wasn't sure about the hypnotherapy being permissible in court, but I don't think it will come to Alice going to court because she wasn't driving. It's as simple as that. Yes. I think had the prosecution been of Alice, they probably wouldn't have used the hypnotherapy as evidence in her defence. Certainly anything that it revealed I think would have to have been separately evidenced through more reliable means. So if she'd had memories of George in the car, they could have done some forensics if they've still got the car, which we think they still do. They could have done some forensics on the car to see whether there's evidence of George being in there forensics on the side of the bottle to demonstrate that George was the person who had been drinking from it, and that then would be the evidence they'd use rather than the hypnotherapy, which would have produced lead intelligence rather than evidence. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But as you say, now that we have the evidence, the witness statements about George and the side, where you have, I imagine Emma would have to testify to the fact that George told her it would be his driving. Yeah. I guess that might be counted as hearsay evidence, so wouldn't itself be admissible. But it would, again, trigger forensic type investigations. And ultimately, I think George is going to realise that his best bet is to confess rather than to try and pretend that he wasn't there against everybody firmly believing that he was whatever the rules of evidence are. Yeah. But yes, I think this story is going to, as we've said, ripples throughout the whole community and what's Harrison going to think, because he's been very nasty to at least so. Yes. There's going to be a humble pie eaten in several houses in average. Yeah. So as Tracy from California said a few weeks ago and introduced me to this version, eat crow. Let's move on to our last call. And this one is from Elizabeth. Hello, Stephen Jacqueline. And everyone at Dump to Dump, this is Elizabeth from Dorset calling in again. I just wanted to call in and just say that I am obsessed with the Thursday episode. I just thought it was an incredible piece of radio work of performance of writing. I've listened to it four times now and the first time I listened to it was on the way to work and I had to sit in my car in the car park. I could not go into work until I'd listened to the whole thing. It was just incredible. And what's now even more exciting for me is the ripple effects that this is going to have as soon as it all comes out for the horribins, for the grandis, for the arches and for the wider community, for Harrison, for everything, it's going to be amazing. I cannot wait to hear what is going to happen. And yeah, I just thought the performances from the four actors was just sublime. I've not been as riveted by an episode since probably some of the stuff with Helen and Rob all those years ago. So yeah, I just think it's brilliant and I'm enjoying it so much and I'm enjoying listening to Dump to Dump and everything that you do. So thank you very, very much and can't wait to see what happens next. Bye. Thank you for that call, Elizabeth. Yes, I think you've definitely summed it up perfectly. I felt exactly the same. I felt the same about this story. In fact, since the crash and the machinations around the crash, the implications for Alice and the far reaching implications were as Stevens listed earlier on all the different members of different families in Ambridge, but also the reactions, it's been the reactions of the people that will now be looking back on and saying, yeah, they did this. They said that and they reacted in a certain way. So I think it's going to be absolutely fascinating. I'm really, really looking forward to it. Sometimes we go through bits of slumps with the arches and the arches writing and a lot of people say, oh, it's all gone very soapy. But I don't know. I feel that this has been acted out quite well in real time with fabulous acting. I mean, you can't fault George as an actor. The actor is called Angus Stobie. Angus Stobie, yes. Yeah. And Emerald O'Hannaran. Emerald O'Hannaran. Yes. I know. I think they've been, as a pair, as a mother and son, they have been acted absolutely brilliantly and very, very well written, of course, they couldn't be acting so well if the end of such great writing. Yeah. Really, really, really positive feedback on this story. When Tracey called in last week, she was saying that last Thursday's episode was one of the best ever. That was Clive in the shop with Kate and Joy and Joy. And that was written by Katie Hymns. And then this week's her normal cues and, as you say, absolutely brilliant acting, both last week and this week, those scenes have been written so well and delivered so expertly. It has really been classy arctures and it's, I suppose that's why some people were a bit dismissive of some of the earlier episodes this week as being quite boring because we'd just come down from that incredibly tense high of last Thursday and we were in a bit of a quieter moment, the cricket, yes, say, won the championship and it's still for many people. It's low-key. It's quite dull. And then the first day is at school and which I think is all setting up for future development. I think there's going to be, I think it's quite predictable that there is going to be tension between Ian and Adam over Ian's involvement and it feels to me that Adam is afraid that it will result in homophobia, which Ian will then react badly to because he does struggle with that sort of thing. So I think that's what that's doing. That's not the drama, that setting up future drama and then we go right back into the action. Yeah, as it is with the storyline of Brad and Mia going off to university, it's all rumbling along behind and setting us up for the future, which is actually what the archers does absolutely brilliantly. And we need to have this rippling effect of the revelation of George's role in the crash for now. Then we'll probably go back to other stories and then eventually we'll get the case going to court and then we'll come and talk us back on that. But it's a tapestry. It's a tapestry of stories and it's as it's strongest when there are several really powerful stories going on and I think that's what we're getting at the moment. I think we're getting a very good set of things at being well served by the writers. I can't remember who's writing next week, but they've got a couple of tough weeks to follow. Yes, I have it. To see how they do. I hope the Dunty Dun listeners and people who are on the Facebook group and the Twitter along as anything realize actually how much we thoroughly enjoy the archers, otherwise we wouldn't be up here before dark, would we? It's a joy. It is a joy. It is. So those are the calls. Thank you so much for calling in. We always say the show is about what you the listeners think. So please do tell us how the week was for you in Ambridge and call in next week. Now did we have any emails or text messages this week? He asks knowing the answer. It was quite weird when you asked that question. Yes, we did. We had three Steven. Now that's a surprise, isn't it? The first is from Lillian with the subject line, "Hooray for Neil." It came in on Thursday and goes like this, "Hi Steven, Jacqueline and all Dunty Dummies Everywhere. I just had to send another brief email to Sam so glad that Neil and Susan finally persuaded Emma to phone the police. Of course, there was a small part of me that is worried that the person at the door was not actually the police, but surely the script writers wouldn't be that cool, would they? I thought the acting from everyone concerned was absolutely brilliant and at the time of writing can't wait for tomorrow's episode. Best wishes, Lillian. Thank you for that, Lillian. And you were no doubt relieved to discover that the script writers hadn't been cruel. It was the police and though we didn't hear the full details of who turned up and so on, we know that George was taken to the police station and then released. But Lillian, we absolutely agree. I think we'd already discussed a lot of what you said on the back of Jenny's call and Elizabeth's call that the acting was superb and none of us I think could wait for Friday's episode and it didn't disappoint. It was another cracking episode. We also had a WhatsApp text message from Helen, which goes like this, "Hi everyone, it's Helen here from Hampshire. What a mixed week. I'm writing in before Friday's episode, so I'm really looking forward to hearing what happens tonight to Naughty George after he got shocked to the police, hooray." My comment is on the school chat with Ian and Adam. As a parent of a child at school, I know the pinging of the class group chat well. It can get pretty annoying. For start, how he got 42 people on is crazy for what, 30 in a class? Both parents don't tend to join. Also, I'm surprised that Poppy, I think it was, had a class assembly on the first or second day back odd. Ian is perfect for PTA or school governor with that enthusiasm. I feel a bit sad for Adam, as I think he might be worried about people talking about the gay dads. Hopefully not. Have a great weekend everyone. Yes, and that's what you said earlier, well I must admit about Ian and Adam and the gay dad, they put out perhaps even a bit of real homophobia coming out from the parents, especially as Ian is so full of enthusiasm. Sometimes people who are very enthusiastic, criticize very, very easily by the rest of the people, especially in school groups in my opinion. Adam is a bit of a strange one, isn't he? He was worried about looking old, because didn't somebody think he was his grandfather? Yeah, and I think it's as much to do with that as the gay side of it for Adam. He feels like an old dad. So yes, Adam was feeling very much old in comparison to Lottie, and I think even Ian was saying, I think, didn't he say he was 20 years older than Lottie? And Ian's a younger than two. So I think they're both very conscious of the age difference. But I still think that as Helen suggests, it's the gay dad thing either as being stereotyped or as being actually, they're being homophobic problems for them. But yes, Ian has obviously got all the enthusiasm to become a school governor into course. And I think that's where he will end up, if he's not careful. And yeah, especially if he's not working, he's not too much time on his house. Yes, definitely. As an elder, a more elderly parent, myself, with a husband who's 11 years older than me, you can imagine when Emily was in junior school, we thought it was quite hilarious that there are people that we still know, parents of the children, who now are still younger than we were. And Emily went to primary school. I always felt like I was the granny, but there were plenty of other grannies picking up the children. So if nobody, if people thought I was a granny, it didn't matter. But at least we didn't have the problem of WhatsApp groups. Yes, neither you nor I ever had any school WhatsApp groups, because WhatsApp didn't exist when hours were at school. It's absolutely a new thing, a modern thing, a WhatsApp, I've only just come and WhatsApp and WhatsApp through Duntedham a few years ago, and very much behind the scenes on that technology. So yeah, 42 people on his group, that sounds like a crazy number of people. So that's, if all 30 children have at least one person on, that means 12 of them have two. Yeah. There's anybody who isn't on the group, that means more of them have two. Yes, as Helen says, it feels unlikely that both parents would join, there would be presumably positive reasons for both them joining like if they were separated. Yeah, exactly. The other point that she made was about the, I assumed that it wasn't a class assembly where the class presents an assembly. It was Poppy, who was involved in that, but I just, yeah, I don't know quite what sort of assembly was, and if Helen thinks it's unusual, I certainly aren't, I'm not going to disagree because it's a long time ago since I was in that sort of space for the primary school. Exactly. And Helen is in the case of having a child at school now. So oh yes, she knows a lot more than we do. Thank you for that, Helen. And finally, we received an email from Vicki with a subject line, wow, and it goes like this. Greetings from the northwest of Ireland, where we on holiday, I'm feeling a bit shell-shocked after the last two episodes. We've been waiting a long time now for something to break, and this has been really super-briety and acting from all the Carters and Grendies. This story will affect so many people in average for years and years to come. I can't wait to hear what you and the Call of Ineros have to say. This is what the archers does best. Love to you all, Vicki. I think, Vicki, thank you for that email. You've heard what Call of Ineros and what we have had to say about that, and we fully agree with you. It is going to affect so many people, and the reports could well last for years. I think that it's, as I said earlier, I think it's a much more significant story in that respect than even the Helen and Rob stuff, which I've, as I think many listeners don't you know and will claim that I'm just going on and on about it. I thought it distorted the programme. It was overdone. There was too much of that and too little of everything else, whereas this one, the strength of this story is it fits into village life. It's not happening instead of everything else. It's happening because of everything else, and these ripples are the way that this incident George deciding to drive Alice's car is suddenly going to spread through all those connections across the village, all the ways people are tied together, and that's going to cause this incident to have so much damage, impact, and so on. I think that it's just brilliant that the way that it's working out, and just, I think that it's an excellent bit of story lining, and it's really going to pay dividends, and I've been waiting a long time for something that's going to be as organic as this in the sense of just betting into the programme, and you could explore how it's going to go through so many things, so many people, and we haven't really mentioned much about, for instance, Fallon and her PTSD. We think she has some sort of low-diagnosed PTSD from the accident. How is the revelation that George was behind the wheel, George, who she has seen up till now as her heroic rescuer, he's now the villain of the piece. How's that going to pan out at a time when she is trying to strike out and do something new? In some ways, this might be the last thing that she needs, is this need to change of attitude? Yeah, she needs to reset her thinking about things which will cause her problems, I think it will potentially exacerbate the whole PTSD, if that's what it is. That's just one example, there's probably nobody in the village who isn't going to be touched by this one way. No, indeed. Well, thanks for that, Vicki. In fact, I feel like I could have written that email, and I agree with everything that Stephen said there. That makes a very boring podcast, doesn't it, but hey, there we go. That's all the emails and what's that message is. Great. Now, as we have mentioned a few times now, Patreon backers have done to tell them to add free version of the podcast, after positive feedback from our patrons, we are now aiming to make the Patreon version available from around 6pm on Saturday. This is not however a guarantee, and there may be weeks when other demands of my time mean that I can't do the editing until later, and it may well be that you're listening to this sometime after 6pm on Saturday, even if you're a Patreon member, because I'm off to the morning in March show, I have to say, we haven't heard a word about Ed going to that and the recent events might mean that he is not going to go to the more than I'll show with his textiles after all, because he wasn't going to go with George. He was going to go with George, so both due to go to the show, so you might not run into them now. I'll keep my eye out for that. Good. Report back next week, please. I will. Patrons also get a weekly email about Dumpty Dum and the Arches, and we're looking at more special features for those of you who are willing and able to support us in this way. If there is anything you think we might be able to provide as bonus material, particularly if it will make the difference between backing us and not backing us, please do let us know. All the money from Patreon goes towards covering the costs of making the podcast, including the subscriptions for the Virtual Studio and the editing tools that Stephen uses. We are planning that any extra will go towards the Dumpty Dum get together. So the more of you that sign up, the quicker we'll be able to get together together. And Patrons will have priority access to tickets. Let's move on to Facebook and give a warm Dumpty Dum welcome to the following people who have joined our Facebook group in the past week, and there are 20 more new members this week. And they are Anne Walthath, Ruth Bus, Nicola Webber, Liz James, Anne Abbot, Francis Collier Wright. And to the lovet, Jane Coulson, James Michael, Emma Fandon, Rachel McClellan, Chloe Richardson. Simon Rowe, Hansi Manning, Liz Henley, Emma Mortimer, Bianca Harpist, Sarah Brown. Andrew Thomas, Francine Rumbel, Hilary Spink, Pauline Barbett Jones, Claire Bethel and Stephanie Booth. Welcome to all you newbies now don't be shy about joining in and never hesitate to start a new conversation. We actively encourage you to go the full immersion and start posting, collaring, and emailing and all in the same week. So now we're going to hear what's been going on in the Dumpty Dum Facebook group this week with a round up from me. So this week has been a very busy one on the Dumpty Dum Facebook page. But I guess having 2,800 members might mean it's bound to be busy. But I would be interested in knowing what proportion of those people actually listen to the podcast because I know what everybody does. We started with a succinct summing up from Rachel Diman. Oh Clive, we are so scared. That was tense though. To which Julian Corrigan replied, "If Clive hurts Neil, they'll be held to play, followed by an angry face emoji." That was following last Friday's episode a week ago, but the comments were made after people had listened to Dumpty Dum and the Omnibus. At the same moment, Sandra D. Jenkinson wrote, "I love Neil Carter," to which 13 people wholeheartedly agreed, and Carolyn Cooper replied, "What I really want to hear is Clive and George caught in a pincer movement of Neil and Joy." Hmm, I for one would love to hear that. Sarah Ferguson wrote a note to Joy, "Dear Joy, I don't know your backstory, but I like to think the mystique around you tells us you have an intelligence background and that when Clive rocked up we saw a flash of your steel. You have a past gal." And Sarah passing him agreed, "She's pretty sure that Joy in the archers and Joy's in the Thursday Murdock Club out on an insane person." Our Darcy Jorgensen on the other hand wrote, "Bond, call me James Bond, 007 or Joy, just call me Joy, 008." Susan Dilemaa admitted she now loves Joy, but it was a slow burn, whereas Elizabeth Lewin cried that she had loved Joy right from the start. Following Thursday night's episodes, the Facebook postings came in thick and fast and there was a lot of speculation about who was knocking on the door. T. Brown Artivists thought it might be Clive. Catherine Humphrey's thought that the police arrived a bit too quickly. A great many commented on that post, ideas about who was there abounded. It could be Ed, Alice, Amazon, Joy, but the best for me was Kate Penfold, who concluded "It was two knocks, it must be the postman." Helen Cook was speculating loads and then came up with Chris, to which many agreed. And to conclude after Friday night's episode, our Facebook people were definitely on a high. Some disgusted at Ed's behaviour, others with heartfelt something for Emma. Susan gets some love and of course everyone loves Neil. Speculation about the reaction in the village is naturally rife too. So get over to the page, get involved and join in the conversation. Thank you, Jasmine and thank you so much to everyone on the Dundee Dum Facebook group. If you'd like to join them, please do, but don't forget to answer all the membership questions so that we know that you're a real person. Can I also add that we've had quite a few people who've tried to join who'd been invited to join by current members, but they hadn't answered the question so we couldn't accept them. So if you invite your friends, please make sure that they answer the questions. Great inviting them, invite as many people as you like, but just give them the answers. Indeed, I've had to reject a few, a couple of came in as it being invited by existing group members and it's a pity, but we can't just let ecling unless else, those questions are there for a reason. And if anybody out there would like to write us a review, please do. There's a link to instruction on how to do this in the show notes. If you can't leave a review, or if you already have, the other thing you could do is to tell three of your friends about us. Even if they're not current archers listeners, who knows, it might be the start of a long obsession. Now to Twitter, where you'll find us at Dundee Dum. Make sure you include the archers hashtag using a capital T and A, so the visually impaired who use screen readers can enjoy any archers based tweets. As well as at Dundee Dum, I can occasionally be found at Wenlock House. We can also both be found with the archers friends on Blue Sky, where I am at Jberto.B Sky.Social. And I'm at Wenlock.B Sky.Social. So let's find out who has won the Twitter medals this week with special guest presenter, Michelle. 2020 postcat, or should that be XX these days? How am you, Dundee Dhammers? Michelle here. I've ventured from the Facebook pages for a week to keep an eye on Twitter and Blue Sky. What's a lovely video, takes a well-earned break. Thanks to all of you who use the archers, or tag, Dundee Dum. It makes things a lot easier, especially for this newbie. Twitter provides us with a character counts for August, with Hitman 21C providing the stats we need. Emma Grundy tops the charts this month. We also met Don James, one half of their level James veterinarian empire, Kieran, and rather obnoxious acquaintance of Pauls, hypnotherapist Yasmin McFoolane, and the unwelcome return to Ambridge of Nerduwell Clive Horribin. Now onto September's offerings, and one of the most up-and-down weeks in archers history. Attract noise person fell asleep whilst listening to Monday's episode whilst at Satlab 2012 thought that the episode was written by the photocopier engineer on the side of a tonic cartridge. However, one listener was shorting you who was responsible for at least one episode. On Blue Sky, Bob Hawkins at B-Sky Social Thought, tonight's episode of the archers is brought to you by the good people at the Timeside Tourist Board. In addition to bigging up the Northeast, the two main themes of Monday's episode were rubbish in the village, and Brad and me are planning to go up Lakey Hill. Cue much snorting by listeners, including Mudkip Stoke 23, who wrote, "The writers totally get that up Lakey Hill is an incredibly rude listener's gag at this point, don't they? God bless them all." Admittedly, when the actual visit happened on Wednesday, folk were quite sad to hear it was not up to the expectations as we saw the denouement of Brad and me as a relationship. As at Mr Weir rightly said, "Least Lakey visit to Lakey Hill ever." Joy's marvellous recollection of the sonnetal bottle leading to Susan putting two in two came in for much excitement. We had some comparisons of Susan to Sherlock Holmes, Inspector Carter and Waggath Ochristi. As a marvel nerd, I particularly enjoyed @phileictrandals' tweet with accompanying gifts suggesting that Susan really is Agent Carter. Talking of gifts, I think every celebration one going was used at the moment of Joy's recollection. Hooray for Joy indeed! Plenty of Kermit's dancing were seen. The celebrations for Joy were only overshadowed. My Thursday night's fantastic episode, with much admiration for the writing and acting on a frankly breathtaking 13 minutes. Kind of making up for the "what's that PTA Snorfest" storylines. Over on Blue Sky, the biggest shocks were what day of the week it really was, with Frank Spicer at BSky Social Stating, this is the stuff that Fridays are made of. Many were quick to pick up the far-reaching implications of the truth coming out, with Joel Charrington saying, "Emma suddenly understanding what it might mean for Kira was beautifully acted and so sad that she'd not even considered her daughter. If only she'd told Ed instead of Will, her tale of two brothers continuing in a most interesting way." As for the older she is, Charlie Notton mused. If Brian finds out, George will be found in a ditch, strangled to death, with a kravat. I'm recording this before Friday's episode, but as Thursday night felt like a Friday episode, that feels fitting. So now I will turn to the gongs for the tweets and skits of the week. In third place we have Ambridge Pony Club at Jen J. Stephen. Seriously, this was not the appropriate venue, do these writers know nothing? You break up in service stations, should have happened on the way to Newcastle. In second place, Kwisatz, Yakty Sacks at Mudkipstoke 23. Some big cricket episodes of the arches are like Mario Kart, no matter what's happened during the week, work arguments, relationship drama, Bowser kidnapping Mario's girlfriend again, they all get together to play games at the weekend. And in first place, Finant the Wrong at finantwrong.baku.social. We fell down the stairs, man. Sergeant Burns, this station doesn't have any stairs. That's it from me, normal service will be resumed by the fantastic purple pumpkin herself next week, and I'll be returning to the Facebook roundup in a couple of weeks. Until then, thanks for having me, and to our bit. Thank you for that Michelle, and congratulations to all who are mentioned in this week's roundup. And don't forget, we're on Instagram @dumptydum, where we're starting to be a bit more active. And on that note, please send any of the arches or podcast relevant photos to the Dumptydum email, and we'll publish them with credits to you. That's Dumptydum@mail.com. We will be back next week, recording at a normal time of crack of dawn on Saturday morning, so please get your calls in by midnight on Friday, UK time, as usual. And as we come to the end of this episode, we need to say thanks to all our wonderful contributors and to the team of Dumptydum as behind the scenes. We need to say a great big thank you to all of you who are listening to us too. We love making this podcast and showing our love of the arches around the world. And we must say thank you to Kim Durham and Sonny Ormond for their voices, and to our podcasting parents, Lucy V. Freeman and Royfield Brown. Thank you so much for listening and joining us today, and we are now off to answer that knock at the door. So it's Aurovua from me. That is goodbye from me. ♪ Dumptydum! Dumptydum! Dumptydum! Dumptydum! Dumptydum! Dumptydum! Dumptydum! Dumptydum! ♪ [applause] This episode is brought to you by Progressive Insurance, fiscally responsible, financial geniuses, monetary magicians. 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