HELLO HELLO FANTASY FOOTBALL!!! WE'RE BACK!!! We start things of with an ice breaker draft of our favorite GoT's characters. Sleepers, Breakouts, and Busts, some classic OtC, Hype train, and more in this action packed episode!
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So, everybody, before our episode begins, we did an icebreaker of our favorite Game of Thrones characters, a draft. Do you want to throw out that there may be some spoilers listed in that icebreaker? Also, to all the individuals who just want to go to the meat and bones of the fantasy, the fantasy talk, you can go ahead and skip to about 1430, and that'll get you there. I hope you enjoy. Hello, everybody, and welcome to another episode of What's Your Fantasy? A fantasy football podcast. Ladies and gentlemen, we are, what, today's Tuesday, September, oh, wow, sorry, Monday. I'm just all over the place, because I'm so excited today's Monday, September the 2nd, and we are three days away from the start of the season. Gentlemen, are we excited? How are you feeling? 72 hours, 72 hours, and stoked cannot wait for the season to get started. Yeah. Scotty boy. Very excited. It's grown man Christmas. I can't believe the season's back. I am exceptionally excited for it, especially since we'll be seeing each other regularly for the next couple of months here, and of course, diving into some fantasy football content. We have a great episode for you guys today, everyone listening, and of course, since we got to start out with the heat, our icebreaker today is going to be a Game of Thrones character giraffe. Now, I'm already. Little background. So my biggest concern with the football season starting is that I'm currently rewatching Game of Thrones, and I've been binging it quite hard. I think I'm, and this is going to be probably unbelievable to you guys, but I'm on season six, and I started rewatching, I think, a little over a week and a half ago. So I've been doing some serious damage on Game of Thrones, and all that to say, obviously, we got Thursday night football, Friday night football, Sunday night football. So it's going to be very tough to watch Game of Thrones in the coming weeks and months, so hopefully can do some damage over the next few days. But with that, I wanted to do a little throwback character draft. Yeah, let's do it. So we, we've randomized, of course, as per usual, Scott has been our number one pick. Thank goodness this randomizer is actually, I don't know, actually working this time. One train has the one on one, me second pick, Scott the third, we are doing a third round reversal here. So it's got hoping, seeing what will fall to him, fun train, what do you take? Who do you take? Excuse me as your one on one. Yeah, so I'm probably not going to go with the obvious pick, and I'm probably not going to snipe you guys, but I'm going with my all time goat, and that is the girl with once no name, Aria Stark is my number one overall pick. Wow, actually, I did not expect her to go that early. Aria Stark, excellent, easy peasy for me, and I had a very long long and arduous conversation with Scott actually about who I wanted to pick here. And since I can't pick any of the dragons, because we are picking collectors, I will be picking the beautiful Daenerys Targaryen, Khaleesi, the mother of dragons. As my 102, listen, it's a dragons for me. It's the dragons. And listen, Amelia Clark from the get-go was one of the driving factors why I loved Game of Thrones. Scott's going to get his first two. Oh, Scott's happy. I mean, I'm definitely getting my first one. I think without a question, guys, the 1.01 and 1.02 should have been Jon Snow and Daenerys. And yes, Daenerys, sorry, in my opinion, Jon Snow is the 1.01. He's the CMC of Game of Thrones, and 100% is a smash pick right here with Jon Snow to round out the first round. It's a song of ice and fire, ice being Jon Snow and fire being Daenerys, okay? Like literally picking Arya, lover, and I thought she was going to fall to me, she was going to be one of my first two picks here, because I thought she was going to fall. But it's Jon Snow and Daenerys, like, that's what the story is. Yeah, again, you're using the love-hanging fruit, and I don't know if to me, Daenerys just is not one of the best characters so far. Oh, my gosh, it totally is. Anyways, Jon Snow, easy smash here, and to start the second round, the 2.01 going with Tyrion Lannister, baby. Dang. All right, well, I- Great picks. Yeah, great pick. Tyrion, I was hoping it would fall to me. Okay, listen, I'm going to have to go Cersei with this coming back. Use me? Okay, see, remember what I told you, there are a lot of good characters in this show, but for me, it's the people who, Cersei's a cockroach, Cersei's a big old cockroach, it just won't go away, and so scheming, so conniving. The Lannisters. Oh, my gosh, the Lannisters. So okay, I wish I could go more, but yes, that is my next pick. Fun train. It's up to you, baby. I- This is really tough for me now. We got a bunch of- Like Jon Snow, Tyrion, Arya, those are my top 3 easily, Daenerys was number 4, and now we got some tertiary characters that I love a lot. Let me get Brienne of Tarth, that's when it's- Damn, when it gets some girl power. I did not expect- Cersei's some girl power, I did not expect you to get- I'll see you pick Arya. Yeah, I know. I know. Star Woman team. Wow, I actually cannot believe you picked Brienne. I was hoping to pick her up to the 4th, actually. Yeah, she was down my list. Wow. I would not have pictured this early, but she was definitely on the list. Crazy because I did not expect to have basically all my choices here for the third round reversal. A lot of- A lot of really solid characters here, and I know that they're all probably not going to make it back to me for my 4th pick. Man. Yeah, so Cersei with that pick, I actually am not a huge fan of Cersei, like the character is great, but I can't stand her, but it's funny you pick- I know. It's funny you picked Cersei though, because when Emily and I watched it through, she was always like, "I gotta have my Cersei wide." So it was like her thing, like she had to have a glass of wine, and we were watching it up, so she called her Cersei wine. So oh man, I've got three choices here. I think they're all really solid characters, and man, I'm going to go with this character, because I think of all the characters in the show, he might have had the greatest night and day character development. Basically going from somebody that you just absolutely hated to at the end, somebody that you were like, "Man, totally respect this character, like this character," and that's Jamie Lannister, awesome character development. You hate him at the beginning of the show, like he's that guy, you're just like, "Screw this guy," but you like him by the end, you do. Okay, oh gosh, wow, I was hoping he'd fall to me, listen. And I don't want anyone, like, once again, I love the complicated characters, the ones that we really are like, they're easy to hate, right, and also the, I don't know. So my next pick is has to be, it has to be King Joffrey. And listen, for me, for me, yes, you hate him, but it's just, it's just the, it's so hard for me to describe why I love the people you hate, because it's like, "Oh my God." I mean, it means they're doing such a good job with what they're doing. Correct. Everybody, of everything he's done throughout the entirety of his, I don't know, his reign, it's just so, it's just so beautiful the way that the actor portrayed him. I definitely respect the pick, because this is a character draft. And like, you know, think about this differently, like you're picking characters that you love to hate. So much depth, yeah. I'm definitely like a guy where I want my team to be full of guys that I like, you know, I'm still like different, but yeah, I don't hate it. For characters specifically, it's, I mean, yeah. Hey, listen, we could have done a good guy draft. We could have done a good guy draft. I could have got my dragons, but you know what? Sure. I don't want to spoil any future picks here, but between Joffrey and Ramsey Bolton, who do you guys hate more? Because I feel like there's got to be the top two hated characters. Joffrey. I used to think that Ramsey was worse, but after rewatching, still Joffrey exponentially worse than Ramsey. Yeah. You think so too? I mean, not to say Joffrey. Yeah. Spoil alerts with what he does at the end of season one. I guess I won't say it, but or he just completely goes off the rail and does his own thing there. And yeah, I think the statute of limitations for spoiling Game of Thrones, so all right. So he lops off Ned Stark's head to end season one, right, completely against the advice of his mother and all his advisors. And it basically starts the war, right? Or continues, you know, I guess the pursuit of the Game of Thrones anyways, you know, Ramsey Bolton though, he's like a different level of bad guy. He's like psychopath, bad guy, like cut off your junk and send it to your dad, bad guy because he does that, right? So I don't know, I feel like I still got to say Ramsey's worst, but anyways, that was a die tribe. Steven. What do you got? Yeah, again, this is this is really tough for me. So many so many good characters. And honestly, I've forgotten how the next few seasons go. And so I don't know how some of these characters die is the problem. But I think to pair with Aria, I'm going to go with Joggin, Hagar, a man with no name just so we can get a house of the black and white team going again. He really helped with Aria's character arc and I mean, just what a dude. He saved her and made her made her the girl that she is. And your last pick here. Oh, I get to go again. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is tough. Please don't take, I'm going to immediately say it after you get done. If I would have gotten Jon Snow, I probably would have grabbed Eagret, really love Eagret. Let me get Tormund to round out. Let me get a ginger on the team. Wildling who comes to Jon Snow side, again, I forget how all of this jazz ends, but he's a fighter alongside Jon Snow for a while. So I'll take Tormund. Awesome. Easy. My last pick is going to be Sandor, the Hound, Clegane. I don't really have to say much. I love my team, actually. I forgot he was killed by my character, Breanne of Tarth, that totally forgot. That was interesting. The Hound? The Hound. Yeah. The Hound was not killed by Breanne of Tarth. He and his brother grab each other. Hey, wait, wait, wait. Okay. No spoilers. Let's not try to spoil, but like. Wait. The Hound. The Hound is not killed by Breanne of Tarth. The Hound dies in like the last episode of the last season, so I must have forgotten something. It's okay. That's why you're rewatching. It goes, I assumed you were going to go the Hound because when you were talking about. Arya. Arya stuff. So thank goodness. Oh my gosh. All right. Scotty boy. All right. So literally the next three guys, these are all basically king and queen makers, kind of like the seconds to main characters. I don't know how all three of these guys made up, but the three that I'm between here is Sir Davos, the Onion Knight, Sir Bronn, who is Tyrion's side dude and also Jamie's and just hilarious and then Jorah Mormont, who is didn't notice his side guy. All three of those guys. I had them higher than the last two or three that you both picked, just because I love the characters. Sir Davos is like the true and true guy and I think I would love to have him. But to make this team absolutely perfect, I'm going with Bronn here because I got Tyrion and Jamie and just add Bronn to this team. I mean, sorry, my team slays. My team slays, guys. You got a good fighter, dude. Yeah, I feel like no love for Grey Worm, honorable mention there. Miss Endane. Little finger. I had Sam on my list just because Sam's a good side character too with Jon Snow. He's like Jon Snow's number two. Also, I know he died early on, but like Rob Stark, absolutely great character. Rob, if mine was who's my backup in case you took the hound, he was going to be the next pick. But yeah, so good. He's also the prince in Cinderella. Huh? Fun fact. Fun fact. Oh, that's actually really interesting. Oh, wow. That is a fun fact. Well, listen, I hope I think we're all satisfied. I hope we're all as satisfied with our Game of Thrones character teams here. I know I am an excellent icebreaker, you guys. Should I recap them real fast? Oh, yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. MJ's team was in there. Cersei, King Joffrey, the hound. Stephen's team was Arya. Brianna Stark. Jocken, a man with no name, and Tormund, the wildling. And then I had Jon Snow, Tyrion, and Jamie Lannister, and Bronn. Pretty even. Okay, I love it. I love it. Well, excellent draft, you guys. And actually, we're going on to one of my favorite segments prior to the beginning of the season. Not really a segment, but this is going to be our sleeper bust and breakout for the year. Now, we're just moved down the line here. We can go me, Scott, Steve-o. Okay. I think that'll be great. We'll move through our first category here, which is going to be our favorite, or our sleeper for the year. And with all this team has been mounting injury upon injury, this entire offseason lost their new rookie quarterback. My sleeper at the year is going to be Aaron Jones. And I really think with, I don't know, I don't know what to expect out of Sam Darnold. I mean, he was suitable in the last couple, what, last season at Carolina, decent over 49ers when he came in. But Aaron Jones is just like, I feel like being completely looked over. He has, especially in PPR leaks, I think he's going to eat him and JJ. I think you go through your players when your team starts falling apart and kind of the situation they're in. And I think he has every opportunity to be a at, I mean, beyond the doubt, a RB1 this year. Really good pick. Yeah. Appreciate it. Yeah. That's fun train. Sorry. Scotty boys. Yeah. I love that pick with Aaron Jones and the one thing I have him in is our PPR dynasty. So I know that would be awesome. So my sleeper, I'm going with a rookie here and actually to spoil it, all my picks are wide receivers just because I find the wide receiver position, especially this year just very fascinating. I don't know why. I'm very drawn to them this year, but I'm going with a rookie. And this is a guy, I mean, his name is now out there obviously, but he's got the potential to be not only a dude, but like a wide receiver one for arguably the best quarterback in fantasy football, which is Josh Allen. And that's Keon Coleman, Buffalo Bills. I think if he becomes the dude, he could easily finish as a wide receiver one this year as Josh Allen's number one. My guy who MJ, I know we've talked about this easily could be the number one wide receiver on his team quietly going into his fourth year, but that is Josh Palmer with the Los Angeles Chargers. We got 294 dedicated targets on the team, 294. They got to go to someone, McConkie is a rookie, he could be good, but he's not Harrison or neighbors with that raw physical talent. So I think Palmer is going to be the guy at least to start the season and maybe throughout the season. And I think he's someone who could kind of be that solid four guy on your team if you need someone. So Josh Palmer. Love it. And didn't you love when I said that here, let me throw him in the trade too. He's going to let me scratch your back a little bit. Yes. Who knew? Who knew? Hey, I knew. I knew I had a feeling. All right, you guys. We'll move straight into our breakout, our fantasy breakout player of the year. Now I listen, I'd love to do a bunch of rookies here and I actually have a rookie listed up here, but mine is actually going to the theme with the Bills and Scotty Boyd, mentioning that Keon could blow up Dalton Kincaid's got me my breakout player of the year. And as we talked about, yeah, Josh Allen, he's man slings it. I mean, we're talking the people we can list. I mean, Curtis Samuel, Khalil Shakir, Dalton Kincaid, Keon Coleman, like, I really think Dalton Kincaid is going to be his safety blanket, our next iteration of the Mahomes Kelsey. I mean, he was tied in one last year, technically. But if I, if I be a little bold, I really think he has every opportunity to be, to only be bold. Yes. He has every opportunity to finish as a tied in one this year, the tied in one. I'll make a side bet for it because I love Kincaid. I mean, I'm not taking the other side of that side, but I love it. I've got him in two of our dynasties that PPR League with Aaron Jones, it got him there and I got him in RMC. You know, it hurts. I've been going through leagues to find Aaron Jones in my PPR leagues. And when I went to AP and I saw you had, I was like, I had Aaron Jones. I was like, oh my God. So I mean, and chaos commissioner Dave out there thinks that I wasted a first round pick on Dalton Kincaid two rookie drafts ago. I absolutely don't think so. I get like drafting a tied in in a rookie draft in the first round, whatever. But listen, Dalton Kincaid, he was awesome last year. And I think this guy's the limit for him, honestly. Yeah. Well, fun fact, he also had like the sixth mouth, most receiving arts for rookie tying in ever in his rookie year. So he wasn't a slouch either, right? Oh, Scotty boy, who's your breakout for the year? Yep. So I'm ready for Stephen's eye roll here, but I'm not buying into Josh Palmer having it locked down in LA. I also, I do agree that I think McConkie rookie, he's going to be playing out of the slot too. So he'll get some targets, but my breakout's going to be Quentin Johnson, man. I think it's now, it's now or never. It is now or never. And he's either going to show up and he's going to do it or he's going to be irrelevant a year from now. Yeah. You're going all in on this. I am. Listen, I think Quentin Johnson could be the wide receiver one for the Chargers this year. And like Stephen said, what, 294 vacated targets. QJ is getting a solid share of that. I just, I don't get it. You're dying on the hill for no reason at all. I'm not dying. Hey, man. My man has resolved. This is my breakout player right here. Yeah, but there's nothing, nothing to support the possible breakout. He has been like the least hyped between like Palmer, McConkie himself. He said every opportunity, but all that you done at Hill. I think he profiles the best. And I think with Kenan Allen gone, Mike Williams gone, I think he's going to, he's going to make a huge leap here in year two. Wow. Steve, oh, your breakout. All right, guys. So my guy finished as RB 23 last year and is going ADP RB 34 in sleeper. So just starting off there, huge value to come. Cliff Kingsbury, Cliff Kingsbury is the new OC in Washington, while at Arizona 2019 to 2021. Kenan Drake finished as number 16 running back in 19, number 14 running back in 2020. And then James Connor finished as the number five running back in 2021. So what am I getting at is that Brian Robinson, Jr. is going to break out this year. Again, going as RB 34, I do not think is out of the realm of possibilities that he finishes as a top 12 to 15 guy. I love it. You got Austin Echler there, but Echler, I think is maybe going to be more of a receiver in their offense since their number two is Olim need Zacchaeus. So again, there's, there's not much to go around in Washington. So I think Robinson and Echler are both going to be probably top 30 guys. Excellent. I actually, gosh, I am so sad that, I don't know if he's picking up the train in terms of B-Rob, but I've been trying to collect as much B-Rob as I can through the offseason. No success, which blows my mind. Nobody wants to move up B-Rob no matter what I offer. So congrats to all the owners. Well, I may be an early congratulations, but I hope he does pull out a solid year this year. All right, gentlemen, let's move on to our bust. Our bust of the year for me is going to be Devonta Adams. And actually we were just talking about this prior to the show starting what we consider bust and that's, you know, whether or not for us a player finishes within five spots of their ADP where they're drafted. I think, I don't know, I feel like the Raiders are in just such a weird spot. Even head coach Antonio Pierce was talking about the quarterback battle in which to me, it felt like he really wanted Aiden O'Connell to be their starting QB for the year, but he just wasn't there. So they're settling for Minshu. Now, do I think Minshu starts the entire year? No, I don't. I don't know. It's so hard for me to justify Devonta at the end of the first round, early second. I mean, for the production, I just don't think he's going to get. I mean, and I'm happy to be wrong with that because I know this whole entire group right here, this trio, we've loved Devonta, but heck, I mean, I don't think he's just going to fit. I think he's going to finish outside of the wide receiver one this year. But you're still going to get value. I mean, you're still going to get production, but it's not the first round hammers that he was able to put up at year, year. So yeah, Scotty boy. Yeah, absolutely love that pick where he's being drafted this year in redrafts. I think way too high. I'm shying away from Raiders receivers in general. We have no idea what that's going to look like out there, but my guy finished as the wide receiver for last year and half PPR and PPR. And that's Pukunakua. Listen, this guy's going at the end of the first beginning of the second and most redrafts. I think that is insanely crazy mind blowing. I would rather have like five players on either side of him where he's being drafted easily. Cooper cup is still there. He's not disappearing. I would argue that if he's fully healthy, he could be the guy. You know, I could see this being a, uh, Jamar Chase and T Higgins situation where Puka is the T Higgins. So he's going to have like his 20 point week, you know, every three, four weeks or so. And then he's just going to, you know, put up like five to eight weekly other than that. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Puka is my ASB of 2024, but Pukunakua is my bust for this year. Oh, real quick snippet. I mean, uh, me, I commit Scott to hop in another dynasty league with me this off season. Why? Why did I do it? But it's a drug. It's drug. But Puka went 106 in her one quarterback league above Jean CMC, Breeze Hall, AJ Brown, Tyree kill. I mean, maybe, I guess maybe Tyree, I guess, but I mean, uh, I, that's just mind boggling to me. So just a little snippet there. Fun train, close us out, baby. Who's your bus for the year? You guys are not going to like this, but my bust is Malik neighbors of the New York giants. But why you ask? Why tell me the last time a Giants wide receiver had over 800 yards receiving. Guess what year? Listen, it's probably has to be with OB with Odell Beckham Jr. in 2014, 2018, when Eli Manning was the quarterback. And guess when the last time that Daniel Jones had over 20 passing touchdowns? Never. Good guys, but it was his first year fully starting. So it's been five years since DJ had over 20 passing touchdowns in six years since any Giants receivers that over 800 yards. So I think we all believe in the talent of a league neighbors, but I don't believe we believe in Daniel Jones. So he's currently going to think around 23 ADP and I don't think it's out of the question that he finishes 30 or around that area. Yeah. Let me take a look at that. No, I like that, big. Yeah. I mean, I agree with you. There's no way, especially for 2024, that I'm wasting high draft capital on someone like Malik neighbors now for a dynasty. I mean, it depends on where he's going, but I'm making sure that like my starters are set and he's not one of them before I'm even considering him, which by that point, he's probably gone. Yeah. Very interesting. I mean, let me quickly tell you some players he's being drafted around wide receivers. There's Michael Pittman, DK Metcalf, Devontas Smith, he's actually going before Devontas Smith, Zaflowers, Tank Dell, Amari Cooper, Keenan Allen, Terry McLaurin. Very interesting. Every guy in that list except Tank Dell and Keenan Allen, which is a debate, are number one receivers on their team. So, established number one receivers. So I think it's, yeah, it's difficult to make the argument. Excellent. Well, listen, excellent selection, gentlemen, and can't wait to see how these all pan out. So we'll keep a live ledger and see how they produce in Scott. We'll move on to our next segment here, which is the long forgotten height train, Steven. Get us excited. Who are we choo-chooing for, baby? Choo-choo. Alright. I think we got some easy ones, some more difficult ones, but let's start off with Xavier Worthy. We know that Rashi Rice is not suspended, Hollywood Brown, likely not playing in week one, but could very well play in week two, where we at Xavier Worthy, and let's think about this in terms of 2024, redraft. Choo, I'm definitely on the hype trade, 2024 and beyond. Yes, I did draft him in our RMC league, I think at 1.09 or 10 in our rookie draft, but I'm a firm believer in Worthy this year. I think maybe not as good because it's hard to compare anybody to him, but I think the closest thing that chiefs can get to Tyreid 2.0, just with his speed and the way he can stretch the field, I think he's going to be the home's deep threat. I like him better than Rice. Honestly, if I'm picking a wide RMC rather, Blanche, it's worthy. Definitely a chew for me as well. I'm on that train. I think, what am I having trouble with? It's just every year, I have the feeling, the inclination to doubt the chiefs in some way, doubt Mahomes. I just need to come to grips that I just need to gobble up every opportunity, every positional player, every player associated with that team. Just like there's every opportunity that Mahomes can find Kelsey, I think there's going to be the same reason where he's going to find Worthy. If you give him an inch, he's going to take a mile as we know with that record setting speed. I'm on that train. Choo-choo. I am not jumping on the train in the station. Okay. Yeah. Look, guys, I mean, at best, I think he's going to be the fourth best option on the chiefs. And MJ, I agree with you that we can't doubt the chiefs, but Patrick Mahomes got it done without a stud in the past few years. I do think that Rashi Rice is going to be the most targeted guy. I think Hollywood Brown is that most going to be the number two receiver when he gets back. Worthy is not overtaking an established rice in Hollywood Brown who's a vet receiver. So when you take that into consideration, plus with Kelsey being obviously the unquestioned number one in terms of target, I cannot get on board. Worthy's going to have some blow-up weeks, but he is not going to be performing consistently. I think in a deeper argument, I think he's a stellar, his freshman year, he's going to be a stellar pick for best ball, best ball leagues, but I mean, I think realistically, you starting him like your flex spot or like a fill-in. I think he could finish as a low-end wide receiver too. I have a solid feeling he can do that. So I understand, I understand your sentiments too, Stephen. I think he's going to finish at least ahead of either Hollywood Brown or Rice, if not both. I don't think he's going to be number three. He's going to be at least number two. Well, let's make a side bet there. If you think he's going to be the number two, we're staying receiver. So I mean, Kelsey's out of it. We're talking wide receivers on the Chiefs. He's going to finish at least as the second best wide receiver on the Chiefs. By targets or receiving yards. Fantasy points. Fantasy points. I can take that. Yeah, let's say, I'll take that bet. Okay. So I'm saying that February they will finish as the second best wide receiver and fantasy points on the Chiefs and you guys are saying he won't. I'll take, I'll be on Scott's side for that. Okay. Yeah. I'm taking the rice and Hollywood Brown assuming no injuries. Right. Assuming no injuries. Yeah. Obviously, but I'm including this week one, which is already a, you know, dock against Brown. But yeah, I'll take Brown. Sure. I'll finish writing this out here in a second. But just on the board, our third side by the year, Xavier worthy finishes in fantasy points as the second best wide receiver on the Chiefs. Doesn't matter who he beats out between Rice or Hollywood Brown. He's going to finish at least as number two of the three MJ and I are on that side, Steven's on the other. And real quick, we bet for you, by the way, it's not that round line you go. Okay. Whatever. Anyways, real quick, while we were doing side bets, we actually had one off the air. We'll call it side bed number four though, but me, MJ and Steven are all on the same side of this one, but it's Garrett Wilson will finish with more fantasy points than Puke Nakua. Dave took the opposite. Commissioner Dave took the opposite. So back to that to you, Steve. All right. Going to go with another guy where there's more receiver questions in the air. Jaden Reed with the Green Bay Packers. Oh, oh my gosh. That's a toughy. I'll start. I've had actually have had a lot of conversations with Scott about this and the Packers. I really like the Packers. And I think Jordan loves his, which is crazy. I think if, if Aaron Rodgers still had, was still on the, on the Packers with this core that he has now, um, wow, wow, wow, wow. I think I'd be way higher, not that, no, no disrespect to Jordan Love because I've been high on him since before he even started, but I am off that train. I, I just think you're not going to get the, I mean, what are we thinking? I mean, just hype. Oh my gosh. I was hyping Jaden Reed last year, which is so funny, but I think they're just so, there's so much talent in that on their entire receiving or it's, it's going to be hard to get the production you want out of. I mean, I don't know if, I don't know where he's getting drafted. It might be even a deal for Jaden Reed, but at that same price range personally, I'd rather have God, he's going like players after him, God, when worthy, Ridley, um, I'd rather have those three players before him. So I'm off that train. I pretty much second everything. What MJ just said here, um, I, I think he's a great talent. Good light receiver. I think there are way too many mouths to feed and that offense, um, I actually have a good buddy. That's a pretty big, big Packers fan. I asked him this question. I said for fantasy purposes, if you had to pick one of the Packer wide receivers, who would it be? And he said Christian Watson. So, um, and I, I tend to agree not just because I have a share of him, but I think if Christian Watson can stay healthy and can, and can keep that hamstring healthy, which by the way, apparently, uh, during the off season to fix his hamstrings, if you guys don't know, um, I can't remember if it was left or right or dominant or non-dominant, but one of his hamstrings were, uh, was significantly smaller than the other one, just like the other one was like much bigger. I'm assuming that the dominant was just the bigger leg muscle, um, and a non-dominant it wasn't, but apparently he's worked hard on the weaker one throughout the year. And now they are basically equivalent and the hamstring issue is no longer an issue. Um, and so if he can stay healthy, I think he's going to be the wide receiver you want on the Packers. Yeah. No choose there. Um, I agree that I think chain reads probably a really good player, but eight touchdowns is going to be hard to, uh, to repeat with Christian Watson in playing a full season. So, um, yeah, I'm going to be off the train there as well. Um, and, and there's been a lot of talk about Romeo doves, um, like his teammates, like him, love likes him. Um, so there's not even a guarantee that read is like the number two guy when it's all said and done. So for that reason, I'm going to stay in a station for now, um, Jackson Smith and Jigba of the Seattle Seahawks. Do we see a breakout year two coming? I'll go first on this one, MJ. Um, I'm not going to give him a chew. I know Stephen Hato when I say caboose, I won't say caboose, but like my leg is stepping off the station, trying to get on the train, um, so it's, it's that close. Here's my issue. It's not with JSN. Um, it's with the offense and what they're trying to do that offense is going to run through the run game through Kenneth Walker, the third, um, passing is going to be secondary. And because JSN is not the wide receiver one yet, it's DK Metcalf. Um, I, I just don't see feeling comfortable starting him week a week this year. Um, I, I think he's going to be a great talent and eventually we'll be a guy that we're talking about, you know, at least wide receiver two care, uh, category, I don't know if we'll be talking about him in the wide receiver one category, but, um, at least for this year, no, I'm not on that trade and tighter lock it still in town. Um, I think JSN is going to surpass tower lock it this year, uh, but that's still too many wide receiver mouths of feet and a run first offense. Yeah. Yeah, I, you know, problem is they're, they're OC and I've, I've been doing trying to look more into this. And I talked, once again, these are one of the things I talked to Scott as well. We just, we just talk about a lot of situations and Ryan Grove, their offense coordinator is coming from college ball, uh, previous two years has been with, uh, the Washington Huskies. And it was a very spread out offense with the emphasis on play action. And I really do think they are going to establish to run it. I mean, honestly, one of my breakout candidates was going to be Kenneth Walker, the third. I'm all in on them. Um, but I think if there's one player that they've really target, you know, in terms of these, how, what, these are Dunes a roots or the primary for the offense, I'd really feel like you should have best in Metcalf in that sense. Um, am I in on him this year? Do I give him the chew? I feel like he's still at that low end wide receiver too. You're asking really good, good players, you have really good players, Steven. You always make my brain go hurt. I am off the train for JSN. I'll just cut to the chase. You're making me really think. And this was, uh, yeah, what a top when you get drafted around the 20 spot last year. Yeah. He was the top wide receiver pick from, uh, the 2023 draft. Yeah. So definitely not a question of talent, but just a, I guess, weird situation. I think I agree with Scott that he'll be the number two, at least this year, kind of surpassing Tyler Lockett, but, um, it's still, uh, I don't know Seattle supporting two top 30 guys. Lockett finishes 32 last year and, um, he still will be involved. So I mean, for me, it's, it's just the unknown, you know, cause college ball isn't, it doesn't translate to the NFL. Yeah. It just doesn't. So, um, ask me again next year, Siibo, I will, um, Chase Brown with the Cincinnati bangles. We got a departure of Joe mixed in, um, Zach Moth as the, I think lead guy in the back field. But, um, what do we think about Chase Brown? Yeah, I could take this one first again. Um, I think this backfield is one of the closest running back by committee backfields that we have closest to what I would call a 50/50 split, at least from the outside looking in at the beginning of the season, um, where he's being drafted. I would say like you're, you're kind of starting to get into the dart through category. So if you want to take a shot in him, I don't hate that. Um, I think there's other guys I'd probably take around where he's getting drafted, but um, I, I'm not, I'm a, uh, train yet. I'm still sitting in the station. I, I think I like the player and the talent. Um, but I think he is kind of the one B to Zach Moses one day right now. And I want to see how that pans out. I, uh, once again, another conversation we have Scott have had, I, I think I'm off that train. I'll just keep it simple as that. I think there are a lot more, a lot more running back to rooms that are a little bit in the air, but we'll give you more production than you want. I think Zach Moss was exceptionally productive when he was starting running back for the Colts. Um, and I think it'll be hard pressed for if I was a head coach to, well, and if he's been playing as well as he has been to consider playing Chase Brown more than him, I mean, maybe there's going to be a committee, but, um, isn't it Zach Taylor as a head coach? Um, you know, they've always been as far as we've seen, you know, pretty like a, what a 60, 40 split usually. I mean, P Ryan used to come in there every now and then for like passing down. So I know Chase Brown actually is a better pastor, a receiver receiving running back, but I, I just not on that train this year. Yeah, I thought about getting on the train, but I am also, I think going to stay off after, you know, he was, he was on the offense last year, right? And there was not much competition as the backup to Joe Nixon. He had 44 carries and 179 yards the entire season, which is not, um, promising. So, so again, I mean, he was, he was there, um, I guess to be fair, 12 games played. So you take that into consideration, but, um, one 79 for the year, even as the backup, I think I would expect a little more. So, um, I don't know my, my, I guess still was advocate. Zach Moss is on his 13 and four years. Like, obviously if he was that good, he would stay somewhere. Um, I think Chase Brown has all the opportunity to become the, the lead guy in the offense. But I think I want to wait and see. I would not like Devin Singletary also like 13 and what three, four years. Um, but I think he got, he got a deal. He's not like, I mean, Chase Brown was the record, the bangles. Sure. Yeah. That's, that's her. I don't know. Well, I guess maybe that's not a guard man. I'm sure Zach Moss got some kind of contract, but I can't imagine it was two years. A million. That actually seems pretty good. Um, that's a hell of a deal. Um, Devin Singletary three years, 16, five. So, I mean, that's, I think, I think Zach Moss's deal is, um, I mean, they're pretty similar. Yeah. Now, I mean, that's a fair point. Um, but again, I, well, I don't, I don't think we think Singletary is a great running back though either. Like we're not. He's, I mean, so I think he's, I think he's significantly overlooked, uh, Singletary specifically, not. From a fantasy perspective. From a fantasy perspective, I think he is a competition in New York. No, listen to this, man. Um, and half point PPR in his five years in the league, he's never finished worse than running back 35. And I was in year two. So he finished, he finished 32, 35, 21, 24, 31, um, which to me is a perennial, uh, flex play, like he's somebody that you can always throw in the flex decision. A, but not like a, a maybe flex, not like a easy flex. He finished this 32 last year when he was the clear guy in Houston. So I, the only reason I'm on Singletary train for this year is because again, there's, there's no one in New York. So I'm open to it, but, um, I think what that was at four, four guys. Um, let's do one more real quick one, uh, Jamison Williams. Oh, yeah, I'll hop on it. I think, um, he was up there with Clinton Johnson as one of my breakout candidates, but I really wanted to deep dive for Steven. So I went with QJ. Um, the lions is that offense this year you want a piece of, I say it every year. Um, there's always a team you want a piece of. There's always seems you want to stiff arm and you don't want anything lions. You want a piece of, um, and if you are unfortunate enough, not able to get ASB or Sam Laporta or Jameer Gibbs. Um, I think James Williams is your dart throw. I think he's going to be, uh, Jared Goff's, uh, deep threat. And I think there are fantasy points there to be earned. Yeah. I normally like, I guess this is kind of not necessarily the same situation as. Green Bay. Cause I feel like, I mean, ASB SLP there can be room for more production. And we've seen like for, for other receivers. So is gone. Yeah. Josh Reynolds, uh, what? Kaleef Raymond, he was, yeah, he was there. I don't, I don't know where he's at. Um, I think he's still still there. Maybe, but I feel like Dan Campbell, you know, cause a lot of coaches, they'll talk to talk, but they, you know, completely changed your tune when actual football starting Dan Campbell is one of those guys who keeps it real. And the fact that he is optimistic about James and Williams makes me optimistic. Um, I'm on that train actually. Um, I think it'd be, uh, another, one of the potentially sleeper slash breakout players this year. And hopefully he lives up to his, uh, draft hype, you know, how he was picked in the first round two years ago. So. I don't see a world where. Laporta finishes as a top five tight end and Williams finishes as a top 25 receiver. Um, so with that said, I do believe that Laporta finishes as a top 20 top five tight end. Um, so I can't get on the hype that Williams finishes as a top 25 receiver, which I think would be worthy of hype. Um, he played 12 games last year, but he averaged 29 and a half yards per game. That is pedestrian, that is horrible. Um, again, with a huge argument, he's had opportunity. Yes, injured, really badly injured his first year, uh, suspended last year. Uh, but he's, he'd been on the field and he's had, he's an opportunity. So, uh, your breakout, I can't, I can't get there yet. So you brought up a good point, Stephen. Um, it got me thinking, um, when's the last time a team has had like two, I would say, uh, top 24 wide receivers and let's just say a top 10 tight end in the same season. So the first thing that comes to mind for me is Peyton Manning's Broncos with the Marius Thomas, Julius Thomas. And, um, who was the white receiver too? Cause he was, he was up there. Um, oh wait, was it, was it West, was it West? Oh, Miles Sanders or was it wasn't a manual sander? A manual sanders. Yeah. Manual sanders. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. manual, the man's name is what about the 49ers. Debo. Yeah. Yeah, so I mean, do we think that the lions have an offense that's comparable to the Niners? I think so. I, I think Jared Goff is a better quarterback than Brock Birdie for sure. Um, so I mean, yeah, I think Jamison Williams could, could be the eye. You could the lions. We'll see. All I'm saying is golf is a dome player. And if I remember correctly about, I want to say about 90% of the games he's playing this year are in domes. So build more hive towards the lions. Lions are winning the Super Bowl. So I am, you are here first. All right, guys, thanks for jumping on the train. Scott, turn it to you. Yeah, I don't think Steven jumped on any of his own trains though. Um, but anyways, we are half empty. We are going into another realm here, a realm of possibilities. So the first one I have for you guys, um, let's talk about Jamar Chase, who is my top wide receiver on the what's your fantasy, uh, team that I have. Um, so he is not practicing as of today, Monday, September 2nd, uh, with their first game being this coming Sunday. Um, so he is still holding out for a new contract. And by the way, for those that aren't like tracking this or understanding exactly what's going on, um, he's trying to become one of the highest paid, if not the highest paid wide receivers in the league, um, however, unlike CD lamb, um, who was actually due for a contract extension, uh, Chase was the draft class after CD lamb and it's not technically due until next year. So his hold out is a little bit different. Um, I definitely personally side with the bangles on this one that they have all the leverage in the world and, um, shouldn't be signing into a new contract, but this kind of gets into some of my room questions. So, um, the first one is simply, isn't in the realm that he holds out all season. I, I, uh, I don't, it hasn't happened since Levi on Bell, right? I, I don't even think Levi on Bell held out the entire season though. No, you're right. Um, yeah, no, I don't think it's in their own possibility. That's so tough, Scott. I, I, I don't think it's, it's happened, I guess. But the problem I have is like the bangles at what I've seen on tourists. He just like don't want to spend that money. The owners don't want to spend that money. They spent the money on burrow, but the league is just moving towards the NBA model where the players have all the control and there's not a, I guess loyalty to, when I even loyalty, just contracts are just nothing, which is, it's silly. Like I get the players having power, but you also have to, like, understand what a contract is and I mean, he's still got two years left on this rookie contract. I believe last time I looked and it just, so it's, I mean, this is really unusual for, you know, a wide receiver trying to hold out on his with two years left instead of that last, last year, that player option. I think there's a good chance he does hold out the entire year. And the only reason why is because he's that guy and he knows he's that guy. Like they're not the same team without him. Correct. They're not the same team without him. I, I, and listen, I know, yeah, the players want their, like, I, you know, my, what I think is like, I think players need to be paid. And if he needs his guaranteed money, okay, like go on and get it. Young man, like all these players coming out with, I mean, he goes out there to stroke, like God forbid he hurts himself in some wicked way. And then what maybe his career is over. I don't want that. I don't want that, but that's always a possibility. So I'm all four players, like getting their money, get what they thinkers do, do, and from what I, what everyone is saying or people are posting, he wants a one cent more than Justin Jefferson. I mean, do you think he's, I mean, this may be a dumb question. Do you all think he's in that realm of that tier of players wide receivers? Yeah. 100% right. I mean, so, but I do think there is an absolute possibility. He holds out the entire year. I really do. And, and I get your argument, uh, players, Zuri money, getting paid, but he's, he's wrong in my opinion for doing it a year or two early. If this was a year later and he's doing this. Not the first, I don't, I don't know if the top of my head, but there's multiple players that have done that this year, right? I'm pretty sure, but he's, he's a year away from when he should be doing it. Like he, 100% would be in the right to be doing a holdout this time next year. No, I know. I'm saying, I think that there's at least one or two pretty big players who did that this year earlier this year. I just don't remember off the top of my head. Yeah. Anyways, um, yeah, Jamar Chase, for me, I guess to answer that first question. Um, I don't think he does. I think, well, one, I think it's terrible for both him and the team. Um, and I get that this is more like a selfish act. This is for him, but I think it's actually going to hurt his value, um, in the long run. And I think we've kind of all learned this lesson, or at least us as fancy players from the labion bell holdout that, uh, like after he held out, he was just not the same player. Again, you know, I, I don't know if it was him just aging out as a running back or, or what, or like just whatever it was. Um, I think the longer the holdout is the worse it's going to end up being for him. And I don't think it's going to help this situation. Um, so I, I don't think he's going to hold out all season. And I sure hope he doesn't hold out all season. Um, question number two with Chase being held out, or if he does hold out, um, is it in the realm of possibility that Higgins finishes as a top 10 wide receiver? Yeah, yeah, no, I'm out on that. Ah, wow. That's tough, man. I, I can't, I can't get to talk 10. Let's see. He'll, I know. Wilson Wilson. Yeah. No, I can't get. Oh, that is tough, Scott. That is the excellent question. I am, I'm, I'm just excited about the football season. I think it is in the realm. I think it is in the realm. I think before Chase, T Higgins well showed that he can handle the volume. I think the past two years have been a sad, just injury riddle, you know, concussion, concussion. High ankle spraying, uh, a couple of years, but I think he's, he's capable of handling that, uh, the looks. And I think of course within a healthy realm of possibilities, he can finish as a top 10 receiver. I believe that more likely to finish top 10 receiver with their number one guy out with their, yes, with their number one guy. Yeah. Yeah. Which is quite things within this question. All right. Uh, T Higgins or Keenan Allen. Oh, with the current situation right now, I would rather have T Higgins. No, no, no, I'm saying if DJ Moore was out, Oh, uh, T Higgins, I think I would take. Cause they used to have a doomsday there in Chicago. I thought I got the Keenan and also the repertoire has been there. Or sorry, the repertoire of the rapport has been there with burrow and Higgins for many more years than Higgins and a rookie, Kayla Williams. Shoot. No primary. I've, I am very tempted to say the Keenan now inside, but I, oh, gosh. Mmm. I'd rather say T Higgins. Uh, that's tough. So to answer the question, I think once again, I'm going to sigh with Steven. I, I just don't see Higgins as a top 10 wide receiver, even without chasing the picture. I think it's close. I think it's very, very fringe. Um, I think top 15 makes it a lot more realistic. I think more realistic. Yeah, top 10 is just, there's so many other guys. Um, I think we're still outpacing, but it's close. It's very close. Um, question three on that first one, uh, is it in the realm for the bangles to win it all without chase this year? Super role champs without Jamar chase. No, no out of the realm. That's a hard question, but tell them three, three, three, for three, uh, which, you know, would argue that incentivize the bangles to pay chase. Cause I think it's very clear to everybody that there's no way they're winning a Super Bowl and the goal of any organization they had developed to be like here to your, is to win a Super Bowl. And I think the bangles are one of those teams that have a shot if they've got all their players playing, um, Jamar chase, especially. So all right. Uh, our second, uh, big grouping of realm questions, Russell Wilson was named the starting quarterback of the Steelers. Um, is it in the realm that he actually remains the starter for the entire season? No, definitely in the realm. Hey, he's the start of the entire season in the realm for sure. Yeah. For, um, the, the, the Steelers haven't missed a playoff since, right? Since taught Mike Tomlin has been coach and look at the crap that they've been dealing with the past few years. Like surely we think Wilson's better than Kenny Pickett. So, um, again, I guess the differences is fields is right there. But, um, I think Wilson Wilson, um, can. Walk his way into, to finish in the season. But if I, I don't know, ever, if I remember correctly, like this, there's like some stipulations on the contract. Like I don't think the Steelers aren't paying Russell Wilson's contract. Like they aren't and they have no ties to him. And to me, I just don't, yeah, I don't think that's, I think it's definitely in the realm of possibilities that he will be, he will be sad in the favor of Justin Fields at some point during the season to me. Yeah. I'm going with MJ on this one. Um, I like Russell Wilson would have to be like Russell Wilson of the past for it to happen. Cause I think at some point the Steelers are going to be like, all right. It's time to give Justin Fields, his shot, the whole like pole position crap with Russell being first, I think Russell got to the team first. He's the older veteran. It was always going to be him to start week one. Um, I'm definitely on the field side of the house. I think Field is a better player. He's younger. He's got the rushing upside. Obviously he's definitely better for fantasy, but from the NFL perspective, I think he gives that offense. Another dynamic, um, that Russell just does it. If the Sillers are 500, there's, there's no reason for them to put in fields. Like that's just not a risk that they would be loved to. Definitely is. I think they need to be above 500. Like they need to be winning more games than they're losing. If they're at 500 after six weeks, I think Fields is definitely starting week seven. Oh, tough. That's a good question. All right. So, uh, isn't in the realm for fields to be fantasy relevant while not starting at quarterback? No, no. Not at all. You know, you don't, you know, they're going to come up with some sort of special, like second quarterback look where maybe he lines up as like a running back or a half back or a tight end. What some wildcat action. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, like, I, I think I'm with you guys. I also think the answers know, but I don't know. Maybe. Wait, maybe we'll take some hills. The only comp in the past 10 years. Sure. Sure. I mean, personally, I've never, I haven't seen any like videos or anything about him receiving what they were saying. He was going to take back this. Yeah, I mean, look, if, well, I guess kick returning, you have every opportunity. Now, you know, you can't, you can't have a two. I mean, it's already bad to do it in college, but you can't have two cubies and the NFL just doesn't work for the locker. Yeah. I think that's an easy two for three. I think of everything we've talked about so far, that one's definitely not in the realm. All right. So, uh, with Russell Wilson being the starting quarterback, the Steelers can the Steelers make the playoffs. Yes. To my first point with with the. My compliment that they've made it in the past. Two to four years. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I just can't bet against coach Tomlin. Um, cool. He'll make something out of nothing. Yeah, that's three for three, two. I think absolutely can. Now, the fourth question, can they win a playoff game? Mm. I'm a, no, I'm not putting money on that. I would definitely not, not in the AFC. That's funny, man. We're, we're all drawn the same line. I think, sure. Yeah, they can make it, but there's no way there. I'm not giving them a single chance that they're going to win a playoff game in the AFC. What's the worst in this record? I mean, heck who, who do you think? I mean, God, they'd be probably the, the, probably face what the bangles are. Oh, I mean, they would, they would be the six or seven C at best. They'd be playing the bills or the Ravens, or if the Chiefs don't have being the one seed, I was being a little optimistic for them, but like, no, I, I, yeah, it's just AFC is a monster and he really is God. All right. Third grouping of realm here, uh, Rams head coach Sean McVay has said that Kyron Williams is going to be returning punts this year. Now, I know this is not just my opinion. I'd say the fantasy community as a whole has taken this as mostly negative news, um, as it will expose him to more injury opportunities, obviously, um, isn't in the realm that he finishes as a top seven running back again this year. If he is actually returning punts, top seven is aggressive. The volume is going to be there. Mm. I think out of the realm. Yeah. It's something easy. No, for me guys, go ahead and finish them Jay. I would say maybe if you stretch it out to 12, maybe 15, like I think it's a bit more believable or more in the realm. Seven like you said, I just, it's just so scary. Cause you know, as we all know how the hits that punt returners kick returners can take. It's just so scary. Um, I think you could make an argument for the net. So ADP is going eight. You can make an argument for players nine through 19 that I would take over Kyron Williams. Yeah. I, so I'm, I like Kyron. Obviously helped take me to the What's your fantasy championship? Um, being an undrafted player in our, in our league. Um, but this, this news definitely has me worried as a Kyron, um, manager. I, uh, I don't like it. Uh, I don't think it's in the realm that he's going to finish top seven again, especially if he is, uh, returning kicks. Um, so yeah, not, not a fan of this news. Um, the second question I have with this news is, isn't in the realm. Um, I guess regardless of Kyron status that quorum finishes as a top 30 running back this year. No way. Mm. So. So with the healthy Kyron. Yeah. I mean, I would say regardless of his dash, whether Kyron is not. No, because no, because McVeigh is a one bad guy. Classically has always been, but if Kyron's returning punts, is that mean corms can be doing more of the running? Not enough to be a top 30 guy. Yeah, not enough to be top 30, I think. Yeah, I don't know. I think he's top 30 of the, uh, of the questions here. I think this one's definitely closer to being on the fringe. Um, but I think I'm going to agree with you guys that it's not in the realm. Um, I think Kyron would have to be, um, in some sort of out or IR status for a quorum to finish top 30. Oh, that's so tough. Yeah, out of the realm. All right, that's all I had for the realm of possibilities. MJ, bring us back to on the clock. Gosh, listen, I have to say, listen, you guys are asking some excellent questions, the players that you're mentioning to just been stellar, really making my mind work is what I missed about our podcast. So I'm happy we're back into it. So on the clock, I've got actually our more team oriented questions. Um, you're going to have 30 seconds. We may not need 30 seconds for each. It's a two part of reach of you. Okay. Who would like to go first? The boys or the Falconees. The Falcons or the Cowboys. Okay, Falcons. All right. I love it. All right. So let me lay it down some background. Kyle Pitts. This is now this is a one quarter back PPR redraft. Okay. Kyle Pitts is being drafted as a Titan seven. Drake London is being drafted as the wide receiver 11. Bajan Robinson. And this is on sleeper. Let me tell you that too. Also on sleeper, Bajan is being drafted as the RB two. Steven, first part of the first half of your question is, who do you think? Doesn't meet or pass their ADP their season. Out of those three players and why? Uh, it's going to be Kyle Pitts easily just because. I don't think, uh, was it Zach Robinson? I think it's the new mercy. I think he actually knows what he's doing. Um, I think he comes down to the competition at tight end, maybe Evan Ingram, Jake Ferguson, David and Joku. Um, I think London and Bajan are going to be the focus points of the offense. And so I'm going to bet against pits of the three. Okay. Great. Now, who do you think exceeds their ADP? Is Drake London the kind of the runaway star here? 30 seconds. Well, let's see. Bajan's at three. Um, at 11. Uh, I'm going to have to take up all this time. Uh, that's a difficult one. Do I see London being actually a top 10 guy? Um, let me go with Bajan. I think he can be one or two. Yeah. I love it. I love it. Okay. Excellent. All right. Scotty boy. Are you ready for on the clock? About them boys. All right. With the boys finally giving CD, a contract he deserves. One, do you think it's possible that the Cowboys are able to resign. Dak and Parsons as well. And more than likely no second part of that is you're the new GM of the boys. Of those two players, who do you resign? All right. So question one, do I think it's possible they sign both? I definitely think it's possible. Um, do I think it's realistic? No, just because I think there's going to be so much money, um, spent to retain them. Um, now of those two as the new GM, who do I keep? Dak or Michael Parsons? It's Michael Parsons. Um, I think he's just one of the top pass. Brushers, kind of utility defensive players in the league. You can do it all. Um, he's much younger. Um, and I think we just have him around a lot longer. Um, love Dak. Don't love that he's drum picks the last two playoff games. Um, and it's hard to start over a quarterback, but give me Parsons. Okay. Well, as a love for Dak is wild. The Cowboys, if you guys lose Dak, the Cowboys are not making a Super Bowl in 15 years. Oh, I mean, we haven't. You haven't made a, we haven't made a Super Bowl in 15 year since Dak's been in the league. So like anymore, but I'm saying, like, who, who are you going with that QB? If you'll have Dak, like the defense is not going to get you there. So we'll, we'll figure it out. I mean, I, today, I guess Cooper Rush was named his backup, not Trey Lance. So my answer is not going to be Trey Lance. Cause if he's losing out to Cooper Rush as a backup quarterback, that pretty much says every, that says everything I need to know about Trey Lance. Um, yeah, I mean, it would be a priority draft position. For us, be quarterback and hope that we hit. I mean, honestly, I hope that they can resign both, but it's going to be such a huge chunk of the, um, the salary cap, all three of the players. CD was my first choice. I'm glad we signed him. He deserved the money. Um, love CD lamb also have them in three different leagues, three different guys to the league. So win, win there, baby. But, um, yeah, we'll see what happens. Well, excellent, excellent answer is the question, gentlemen. And I hope they were, uh, up to snuff compared to your previous questions. Uh, so that's presentations, uh, love it. You guys, uh, we'll go ahead and move on over to MFK, uh, Scott. Give us your MFK. Yeah. MJ, thank you for those on the clock questions. Uh, brother love, love that you picked our teams to kind of focus in on, uh, really good questions. Um, for MFK, uh, I wouldn't say that I'm going with a theme, but, um, this kind of goes along with that four side bet, uh, that I mentioned with, with commissioner Dave, with Gary Whelsen versus Pookanakua, um, you can take this one of two ways or you can answer for both. So either for redraft 2024 or for dynasty, uh, Garrett Whelsen, Pookanakua, Marvin Harrison, Jr, which all three of them are being drafted back to back to back, um, on most platforms, they're back to back to back in most rankings, um, or they're very close. They're, they're within like one or two water severs. If they're not back to back to back in a ranking system that you're looking at, but MFK, those three guys. All right. And we, and Jay, I'll take it for a second, uh, easy kill is Nekua, um, easy, easy, easy, easy kill. The Mary. No way, no way, um, no way. Say it, say it, say it, I feel like it's got to be as I fuck you, you got to take like dynasty and redraft from the same answer. I will, I will take Garrett Whelsen for to redraft, but I'm taking Harrison for dynasty. Dude, mine blown. Steven's taking a rookie for his Mary for a dynasty. That is crazy. Marvin Harrison, Jr. hasn't played a single snap in the NFL yet the anti rookie. F them picks Steven. The fun train is picking Marvin Harrison, Jr. Oh my goodness. Hey, well, listen, I, I love it because that's my exact answer. I am taking Marvin Harrison as my Mary. Garrett Wilson as my friends with bench. If it's, and I think it's very close. I think it's very close, but I, I think a. Gosh, it's so close for me. I, I. I just know that Kyler is off his injury year. And we've seen the damage that can be done, what he believes in his wide receiver one. And I, with the Andre Hopkins in his prime, it was just an amazing do it, which elevated both players, elevated both players. Um, do I, does that necessarily mean I don't believe in what Aaron Rogers can do? No, I think Garrett Whelsen has every opportunity to, you know, really get into the upper epsilon of wide receivers to this year. Um, gosh, I'm just, I've always, you know, I'm always high on them rookies. Um, so yeah, kill is going to be Puka for me. So is your answer the same for redraft and. Oh, yeah. Oh, great. Cause Stevens was different. He said Garrett Wilson for redraft. Marvin Harrison for dynasty. Sorry to think about that bit more for dynasty. That's how it stands for redraft as a change. And if you were right, you know, they're all going like one pick with, with any other, right, uh, for redraft, I'll have to go Garrett Wilson. I have to you and we're same, same. Uh, so my answer is going to be the same for both. And it's going to be what you guys said for redraft. I'm going Garrett Wilson. Marvin Harrison, Jr. Puka Nakua, uh, I mean, blows my mind that Steven is of all people is marrying Marvin Harrison, but he hasn't played a single snap yet. Like I get it. He passed the eye test, taught by receiver at the board. Got his daddy's name, playing for Kyler. Give me Garrett Wilson playing with Aaron Rodgers every day of the week. Um, as my mayor, doesn't matter the format. Cool. I love it. Um, mind if I go next, Civo. He got it. All right. So, uh, my MFK is going to be, um, why, uh, running backs, actually running backs who are, uh, quote, unquote, the RB one for the start of the season, whether or not we like them to be. So that's going to include Zach Moss, Chuba Hubbard. I saw that left and Rico Doudl, who is just named the cowboys RB one. Whoa. Was he really? Today when I, when I filed that, believe it or not, that was the first thing that popped up when I got service again. So once again, Chuba Hubbard, Zach Moss, Rico Doudl. Now, do I think that's going to stand the entirety of the season? No, no, it may not be, you know, maybe splits here. There, of course, Jonathan Brookes coming up, coming halfway through the season for Chuba. Um, I mean, for the Cowboys fricking Zeke's in the wing and Jalvin Cook, but as it stands, those are their teams RB ones. You might want to go pick him up with, uh, with your, with the lead that drafted yesterday. Cause I don't, I don't know if he was drafted. So take a look there. Um, I'm going to marry Zach Moss. And with this new relevant information, friends, the beneficiaries, Rico Doudl, Doudl, Doudl, Doudl and, uh, kill Chuba Hubbard. Uh, I feel like Jonathan Brookes is going to be the guy eventually when he gets back. I think the other two could potentially maintain the one A position throughout the duration of the year. So that's why I'm going with it. Yep. Uh, Steven answered exactly how I would, um, his reasoning was pretty much exactly my reasoning. Um, yep, Moss Doudl Hubbard. Um, who I think that is a very. Moss. Gosh, I don't know. I'm so, I talked about, I talked about the guys a bit ago, how much I've been. Actually, Chuba Hubbard has been like kind of going up my ranks. Um, but I think, I think Doudl is going to be my friends with bench. If it's my marriage is going to be Chuba Hubbard and I'm going to kill Zach Moss. I want to be a little different here. I think Rico and his limited amount of, uh, play last year actually looked pretty good. Um, now I think Chuba actually looked better. Um, if I remember a stat I pulled last year, God, Chuba Hubbard pulled up, like, let me just look this up because I don't want to be wrong. His last couple of weeks were with a different, with a different head coach, by the way. Um, Chuba and I'm just going to enter. If you have the ability though, in my opinion, this is just hard pass. Like find other options. That's my ultimate opinion, but because those were the three choices. I mean, but there's not a reason why not to scoop up these guys in your bench. Uh, sure, sure to end the year, uh, starting week 12, RB 11, RB six, 24, 18, 20. So I mean, decent production on a crapper team, but we're going to have, uh, canal as who makes a focus on the run game. So that's why Chuba is going to be my marriage here. I want to be a little different. Great picks to guys. I mean, I had to give you the trash. I had to give you the trash. MFK at least once a year. I love a good trash. All right. Uh, fun train closes out with the MFK baby. Yeah. So, uh, Scott and I are headed to Mississippi this weekend for a wedding. Um, so the theme for this MFK and eventually jukebox is going to be Mississippi, um, specifically for redraft DK Metcalf, Ole Miss, Evan Ingram, Ole Miss and deck press got Mississippi state. Redraft for this year, Metcalf Ingram, Prescott. Single quarterback, right? Yes. Uh, oh, you got it. You got to take it. And so I was going to say, uh, I just had my one redraft. Um, on Thursday, got press guys, my quarterback got Ingram as my tight end. Um, I'm going to Mary press got French events hits Ingram and killed Metcalf for the reasons I said earlier with run first KW three X is by running back on that team. In fact, so beautiful. Well, listen, uh, nearly similar Ingram is my Mary. Um, and no slight towards deck. I have plenty of deck. I love that. I have that stack. And what's your fantasy? Love it with CD. That deck stack that deck stack. And, uh, I think Ingram who had such a, like a terrible end to his, his time with the giants has completely turned it around over here with the Jaguars. And I think is, I actually think both players are criminally underrated for, for, I don't know what reason I really don't know why. But Ingram, I'm just, I feel like everyone here has been so high on them always. Regardless, I just have the beginning to, I think he has another tight end. One finish in PPR, especially lined up. Um, and I think that's going to, as my friends with bench, it's, I'm just going to kill Metcalf, like, uh, more up in the air as we've talked about early in the episode. Good, great players. Yeah, I'm, I'm going the same as you. MJ, Mary Ingram, friends, a bitch, a pet stack and kill Metcalf. Um, I am, I feel like there's been more Ingram hype since I traded him, um, after having him for two years than there's ever been, uh, but I, I'm going all the way in. And I think Kelsey's obviously got a higher ceiling. So that was my reason for it. So listen, in turn, I, I could, I could lean that way too. I, I would want in terms of your stack. I would want the Mahomes Kelsey stack too, especially this year. Again, it was, it was not a, uh, not a dice team. It was a, we're really, really trying to win now move. Um, and yeah, I really, I don't get the deck hate. Um, obviously there's hate in real life, but like in fan, he literally finished as the number three guy last year at number three, number three. And he's going as what? I think ADP is nine, um, 10, um, I guess average between a few of the sites. Uh, nine on sleeper. I, it's, it's crazy to me. He's got, um, I, I, I guess I could see it when there was questions with CD, but. I don't, I don't know. I don't see the offense getting worse. 20 Pollard wasn't like killing it or anything. So, um, yeah, I don't know. Deck is a, is a steal wherever he's going. Um, with that, let's finish it on oak with jukeboxed. So as I said, um, actually only one of these songs is actually Mississippi related, but, um, go into Jackson this weekend. Shout out to Mitchell for being our Mississippi King slash queen of the league. So Mississippi queen, um, what's your fantasy? Shout out, Mitchell. Um, so AJ Brown, who went to Ole Miss with DK Metcalf, um, is going as wide receiver six on sleeper and Yahoo and is ranked as number six on fantasy pros, very consistent there. Uh, he finished as the where I would see for eight last year. Question one, do you think Brown is more likely to finish inside the top three or outside the top 10? Inside the top three. Oh, yeah. Hmm, inside, inside the top three. I think I got to go outside the top 10. Um, I, I, again, you know, I'm, I'm an eye guy, I test. AJ Brown passes that eye test. Um, wait, was, was the song Mississippi queen that we were doing? He said, right? Cause this isn't the whole point of jukeboxes. There's a song that's got to go with this. Yeah. I miss the queen. All right. Dude, I think we did that one before maybe, but yeah. Cause we did, we did all shout out with Mitchell before being our Mississippi representative. But anyway, no one had known that if you wouldn't have called it out. So next time we shot it, um, if you didn't listen to before, you need to now. Yeah. Um, number two question. Would you rather have Brown at his ADP of six or Devonta Smith at his ADP of 24? Smith. Smith at 24 or AJ Brown at six, whoever other ADP people. I mean, come on ADP. I want AJ Brown. I'm, I'm also taking Brown. Yeah. Oh, wait, I mean, are we just talking like, do you want? Or are you talking about value here? Yeah. For value. Yeah. Devonta Smith at 26. Is it 24? What? I like, I like Brown's upside more than, uh, more than Devonta's. But I know, but they've both. I mean, I understand. I'd rather have Brown, but like for the, okay, I don't want to. No, no, no, I, I go here saying maybe there's not a good argument. I guess I, I could feel stiff as a wide receiver one too. On the same team with AJ Brown. And lastly, really tainted. Uh, that's fantasy, but yeah, we're, we're, did he finish last year, 19. Okay. So that's, that's pretty dang good. That's easily inside a top 20 wide receivers. So you're probably right. I'm Jay, but AJ Brown was the guy. Um, if AJ Brown finishes that or above his ADP of six, where do you think he lands in next year's dynasty? Why receiver rankings? If he finishes above at or above six, were it's going to be right next year? Yeah. Six, I think he's going to just stay where he's at because there's so many guys. Yeah, there's, there's so many guys that are younger that are super talented. Like CD lamb, Justin Jefferson, who, you know, at bad quarterback play this year, most likely, but it's Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, who hopefully has a contract issue resolved, uh, of honor, same Brown, all four of those guys. You're meeting me obvious. It's more so the question is are guys like Garrett Wilson, Marvin Harrison, junior, Drake, London, are any of these guys going to surpass him if they're riding in that top 10? I think it's possible that one or two could. Um, I'm keeping AJ Brown right the sixth spot. Yeah. Yeah, around that range, I, I, I just, I think AJ Brown is also one of those players that are just for some reason criminally overlooked for some reason. Um, he's the player that DK Matt calf, which is he could be. Um, I think he's just such a cog in that offense and has shown that he is like, when he blows up to, I mean, he has every opportunity to blow. I don't know. But I agree around six, six, seven, eight, I think he'll sit. I, yeah, I'm, I'm thinking he goes down if he finishes at six. I think if he finishes above, he will stay at six, because if he's, if he's, if he just sits at six, I, assuming, and again, it's assuming that like Harrison, Wilson, or London, it's one of those three guys, if they finish inside the top 10, I think they're going to surpass him when it comes to digest you, right? I mean, I, I really think, yeah, cause you know, everyone loves the younger players. So if you're talking, exactly talking dynasty, I think he does. That's why I'm saying eight, cause I can see, like Scott said, two of those players making that leap this year and the whole community making that shift towards the younger players. So a great question. And the second song, nothing to do with Mississippi, but Dave recommended it to me. So filling it in here, the song is, give me my heart back by masked, woof, masked, woof. I don't know why it's hard for me to say masked, masked, masked, masked. Um, so the song, it goes empty hole in my chest. You took that or no regrets. Um, who is a player that made you fall in love with them? You don't regret it at all, but now you know, it's time to move on. And you need to figure out a way to let go of your heart going into this season. Oh, boy. Uh, Kyron Williams. Mm. That's great. Listen, man, he was my answer to before going into the playoffs last year. Who do you see standing next to you on the podium with the trophy? Kyron Williams was my answer. Um, and the, the putt returner news, the fact they drafted Blake Quorum, the fact that Sean McVay and his wacky running back shenanigans. I'm nervous, man. Um, I'm so glad that I drafted Blake Quorum to handcuff him. And, um, but I, I've thrown some fillers out there to see what I can get for him. Um, I'm not going to lie. I've already thrown some fillers out there. And okay. I, my player, despite all the negative news about him and I, I was a huge fan of him. I still have this text in Jersey. It's, it's going to be to Sean Watson. I just, ah, God, it's just so hard, man. I, it's just like all like, not that I, he deserves everything that's coming for him, you know, in terms of all that sexual harassment and everything and massages, but like what a hell of a player he was. And like, I just, I just don't think I'm starting to get that point where I just don't think he's ever going to get back there. And it makes me sad to say that, um, and I, I took him very highly because I still believed in him in our, what's your fantasy draft? And I, yeah, he's just broken my heart, ripped in my heart out, right out of my chest. Cause yeah, I just, I think this is his last year in terms of returning to a solid, I don't know, I, I don't even think how, I mean, optimistic he can return to a QB once, but I'd rather just load up on Jamison with Winston and Doriant Thompson Robson. I'd rather bet against it. It's a safer bet. So. Yeah. It's pretty crazy that he's, uh, is dropped. His ADP is 22. I'm sleeper, which is pretty mind-boggling. Quite, uh, quite the ball. Good, quite good, good song. And of course, our last, excuse me, segment for the evening is our, one of our favorite mainstay segments, fantasy flash, our reigning champion. Of course, Steven. Yeah. Good luck. My friend. I cannot wait. Honestly, if it's been one of each of us, it should be Scott's here, but hey, knock on wood for you, Scott. Good luck, buddy. Scott, take it away, man. I'll keep winning fantasy championships and keep doing terrible at my own game here. Fantasy flash, but, um, an honor of the 2024 first week of the season. I actually have four for you guys, um, because football is not only on three nights this week, Thursday, Sunday and Monday, but we also have a Friday night game this week. Let's freaking go, baby. Let's go, baby. Thursday night football. We have the Ravens versus the Chiefs, more fantasy points. Mahomes and Kelsey or Lamar and Andrews. Oh my gosh. My home is in Kelsey. I think I have to take that. I think I have to take Momes and Kelsey side there. Wow. I was going to go that way too, but you know what? Let's go. I'm going to take Lamar and Andrews, baby. Scott, are you sure? Yep. I'm doing it. I'm doing it, baby. Hey. I'm going to start out either behind or ahead. I don't know. Yeah, let's go Friday night football. We have the Packers versus the Eagles in Brazil. More rushing touchdowns. Josh Jacobs or Seikwon Barkley. Oh, I like this. Jacobs. Jake. Oh. Yeah. I think I have to take Jacobs here. I was going to go Jacobs too. What about rushing yards? Does that change it for you? Hmm. No, I'll still take Jacobs. Oh my gosh. That's so dip. I mean, rushing yards. I think I'd take Barkley there. All right. I will take Jacobs still. Sunday night football. Rams versus lions. More passing yards. Stafford or golf. You see it. Oh my gosh. I don't want to bet against Stafford, but I'm all aboard the Lions train. And yeah, I'll take golf there. I am also with Stephen again here and taking Stafford. Bring in Monday night football. We got the Jets versus the Niners. More receptions Garrett Wilson or Brandon Ayuk. Come on. Is this really a question? Garrett Wilson. Wilson. It has to be Wilson. What do you mean? It has to be Wilson. What if I changed it from Garrett Wilson versus Brandon Ayuk to Garrett Wilson versus Debo Samuel? What does that change it for you? Or no? No. Wilson, all right. Where are you? Are you changing your answers based off of what we're just saying? No, no, no. I was going Garrett Wilson 100%. Let's see here. I feel like if I say CMC versus Breeze Hall, anything you guys can do. I'm asking Raj Rogers and Rock Purdy. Oh, we're just passing down. That one's down. That one's very good. Just do passing answer. How about overall touchdowns? All right. Let's do total touchdowns. Garrett Wilson and Breeze Hall versus Debo Samuel and George Kittle. No, it has to be CMC. Yeah, wait. What is that? Because you guys are just going to pick CMC. No matter what. I don't know. Wilson. All right. All right. CMC, are you Garrett Wilson and Breeze Hall? I will send you in I-Yuke. I think I'm going to go Wilson Hall because I'm trying to prove a point to you that I-Yuke is not as good as you think he is. Uh, shoot. You know what? I will. I refuse. I refuse to bet against CMC. I will take the CMC line. I mean, Steven took my bait there. That was easy. Give me Brandon I-Yuke and CMC for sure. Most touchdowns over Garrett Wilson and Breeze Hall. All right. He's going to piece you over the two. Well, both of us, all three of us, good luck. Because either the two of you are going to get like a three point, four point lead over me. Yeah. All right. Health of the gate. So. Oh, gosh. Okay. I'm glad we could work through that. And good luck, gentlemen. Scott, especially. Listen, if I could trade my fantasy flash season for a championship or two, I will. So, gentlemen, I know we're all excited for the season that is about to unfold before us. Of course, I can't wait to see how these rookies hopefully assimilate into the league and who's really going to pop. Some of our mainstay players, the guys who we think can really break the game, homes continuing his freaking tear. Can he three-peat? Oh my goodness. Tyreek, do we think he's actually going to, or actually going to remain healthy enough to break 2,000 yards this year? Are we going to have a 2,000 or was it, excuse me, is it a 2,000? Is it a 2,000 yard rusher as well? That's, or I forgot what, or is it 1,000 yards? 2,000 yard receiver. 2,000 yard receiver, and then for rushing, what's the threshold of greatness? Greatness, I'm trying to remember. It's been that long. I mean, the last person I can recall would be either AP or Chris Johnson, but that's just the beauty of it all. We don't know, and we're about to embark on another journey in the 2024 fantasy season. So we're looking forward to that gentleman. Good luck to everyone in their leagues. I know one of us, one of the trio here hopefully is going to bring in a title this year. Thank you to all our listeners. I hope you enjoy this episode. Of course, thank you guys, Scott, Steven, for your time. Really thoroughly enjoyed opening my fantasy mind and being able to think about all the realms of possibilities of this upcoming year. So Scottie, boy. Yeah, appreciate doing this with you guys again. This is a longer episode. So if you hung in there, hopefully you got some good inside or at least opinions on certain things, certain players. It's probably the last night to be doing a draft, you're doing one, unless you're literally like last night before the season starts. But we're here, baby. 2024 NFL season in three nights. Let's go. My homes versus Lamar. What a start to the season. I can't wait. Best of luck to you all and happy fantasy. Yeah, fun train. Can't express how excited I am for the season. I feel like it came out of nowhere. This year's really flown by, but excited for some football Thursday night. And like I said earlier, we have a Friday night game, which is super, super exciting. Packers versus eagles in broad steel. So don't forget to watch. Don't forget to set your lineups. And we are excited to make this a fun season. Oh, yeah, gentlemen. And as per always, thank you for listening, everybody. This has been an episode of what's your fantasy? A fantasy football podcast. We'll see you guys next time. Sweet, sweet fantasy, baby. [Music]