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That's indeed.com/bluewire, terms and condition supply. Add to hire, you need Indeed. Alright, welcome back to big screen sports and podcasts where all movies are sports movies. I am your host Kyle Bandueo and we are back with another "Shores the Recap" episode today. We're talking season 1, episode 4, me and Alex McDaniel breaking it down. If you have not yet checked out "Shores Z1" you'll probably listen to the wrong episode. And 2, have to do it, the show rips, I'm getting 4 episodes in. I gotta think that we're going to do season 2 and season 3 too, maybe not right away, but it's definitely coming and before we get into it, I do want to shout out the big screen sports Patreon group who picked "Shores Z" to be covered, especially our big show producers level patrons. 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This is the first of these "Shores Z" episodes that we're doing solo, but I'm excited to dive in. This is an interesting one. But before we get to it, Alex, tell the folks, what have you been up to? Is there anything you can announce? Are you still being the international woman of mystery in the two weeks since we've last recorded? I'm still in a limbo phase, but I can just tell you what I would have to do. So I went to London for about a week, and it was amazing. It's my first time in Europe. Lots of-- Did any famous musical artists have shows? You don't know her, but Taylor Swift. Real niche artist. I loved it. I loved it so much about London. It was so great. I was extremely American. I don't think I'm not just American. I think I was American in a charming way to most people, but I was still-- Charming American. You know, I didn't question why they did the things they did. It was more of trying really hard to not be annoying. Is it true that you're going to start calling going to the bathroom, going to the loo? It's so funny because-- Oh, my sister's not going to listen to this anyway. But my sister still age abroad years ago in college. She was gone for like three weeks, and she did this incredible, like, Scotland, England, spent an extra week with Italy and stuff for like a solid three months, and she was back. She kept using terms. She had picked up. So if we were going to get takeout, or like doornash, or something, she'd be like, "Oh, I want to get it to take away." I remember that. I was going to ask you, what is the longest someone has to be living overseas before, to give them the go-ahead to use overseas European terms here without it being like, "Come on." I think you have to be like at least five years, or else people are going to roll the ride. Maybe even two. I think a year still gets an eye roll. Like, come on. You lived a four year. Like, you're back. Yeah. You know. But I am not someone who can say that. I just went to Europe for the first time. So, but I was lovely. I really loved it. Oh, a winter Richmond. You also-- Yeah, I was going to say you did something very relevant to this podcast. True. That was amazing. I'm not going to say it was better than Taylor, but it was as good as. Like if you told me you had to cut one of those experiences, I'd be bummed, but I would still be fine. It was just-- So, I'm assuming most people on this show are pretty interested about the things you can do in Richmond that are Ted Lasso related. Yes. So, I literally, like I had the Uber driver take us directly from our hotel in Kensington to the pub, the crowd and anchor, but it's actually called The Prince's Head in real life. And it was incredible to me because obviously, we knew they were filming in Richmond, but everything looks different in real life, right? I could not believe as they pulled up on the green and how everything looks exactly like the show. And there's the bench and the telephone booth and everything, and then you go in the pub and say the same thing. And, of course, they will take advantage of the fame, so there's like a Richmond scarf appropriately. But even the layout of it just shocked the hell out of me. They've got a little-- They have a special Ted Lasso table, and I actually overheard a group getting mad that they weren't given that table. Oh. Like, legitimately mad? Like, they were upset. Yeah, so they-- I guess they initially reserved for three people because the table's small. And it's got like-- The reason they call it the Ted Lasso table, it's like in a corner and there are like a signed poster and the scarf and everything. But it's a small-- like, you're going to-- it's three people, Max. And I guess this person had reserved it, but then she brought in like another person, so they sat around at a different table, and she-- American, she was very-- Of course. We reserved this table, and I loved her server, who is very quickly like, "You brought in four. We can't seat four there." Period. We can't be pulled for sure. No, that table is for three. Period. I feel like they've probably dealt with so much fuckery in regards to that table that this was just par for the course. Exactly. It was very conscious of that too, just being there. Like, I didn't want to be that person going in every shot being like, "Oh my God, do you have to--" You know what I mean? I'm trying to be cool. And there was a Ted Lasso store that they just opened, like an official store where you could go in and shop. It's going to be funny watching them try to cover that up when they do season four, unless it's going to take place in America, but more on that on another podcast. No, it was lovely, though. It was really funny, is once you get past, like, obviously that little part of town and past the green and you go the little alleyway, when you step out on the other side of the alleyway, there's, like, an anthropology, like, just a group, which is like a Walgreens. It's very much a-- it's a town, you know, people live there, but it was such a highlight. I loved that so much. It was great. Well, I'm very happy you got to go visit, I think, of anyone. You deserve the most to go and experience Ted Lasso, Mecca. We did get some calls for, like, an emergency podcast with the season four news. I think-- Oh. I think we need to, you know, we need to wait and see what the layout's going to be. We've already heard that Phil Dunster, not going to be involved, so it's interesting, but it does seem like they got most of the main cast. I think we'll tackle at another date, but I think safe to say, we're like, we're both pretty, pretty excited. Like, I'm glad to have those people back in my life. Oh, yeah. I mean, I think if we had done the emergency podcast, it just sort of bit of what she knew. Like, ah! Ah! But I do-- we were just talking before we started recording about season three kind of took a lot out of all of this, I think, because there was so much writing on it, and we have talked for more than a year now about going back and doing a proper retrospective. So I think, like, this is-- it's the time to do it. Yeah. But make it work. We will-- yeah, we will certainly dive into that well before season four. But before we get to what we're talking about today, we are now inside a month of-- before movies with balls publishes, the movies with balls, the greatest sports films of all time, analyze and illustrate it, which is my book. We break down-- me and my creative partner, Rick Bryson, we break down 26 of the greatest fictional sports movies of all time. We pick game MVPs. We discuss if certain people in the movies are good at their job. We ask them important questions. There's a lot of cool visuals, like tickets and play maps and breakouts. It is a great gift book. It looks great on a shelf, give it it to all of your relatives, even the ones you don't talk to. Get it for them for the holidays, and some of my favorite parts are there are some incredible contributions from some of my favorite people in the book about their favorite movies, including you, Alex, on Hot Rod. You gave me 300-- the 300 best words in the book. So yeah, that is available. You said that to all your contributors. No, just you. It's fun. It is available wherever books are sold, and including in the show notes of this podcast. So everyone, it would be great if you got and get it, and I'm giving away stickers and a signed book plate to the first 150 pre-orders. So if you send me proof of pre-order, I will send you a signed sticker. Seems like a good deal. So go do that. I've gotten better promoting it. I've took it-- taken your advice to heart. Which is funny, because I'm terrible at promoting anything I do, but I feel like I'm going to get it telling other people what to do. I've gotten to the point where I'm like, if I don't, no one's going to buy it. So I need to, you know, I need to shout about this thing. But something I want to shout about is what we are here to talk about. We are here to continue our season one rewatch of "Shorzy." We are today we are talking "Shorzy." Season one, episode four. If you can't win, don't play. "Shorzy attends his family reunion, and the Bulldogs play the North Bay Norseman." Alex, what is the big takeaway from this episode of "Shorzy?" For me, it is the fact that we are given so much "Shorzy" lore, and we actually learn so much about his family where he came from. It comes out of nowhere. Like-- Don't expect it at all after the first three episodes of this show. Because we talked about how you're slowly with this show, you get little pieces of we're still trying to figure out how he and Nat are connected, or, you know, you never expect to get this really heartwarming glimpse into not only his family, but how he grew up and what he came from. I mean, if they hadn't done it the way they did it, we would be laughing about the sloppy exposition. Like, come on. You could have done it more gracefully. It's just a masterstroke, and I think it's one of the best episodes of the entire series. Maybe my favorite, but I'll wait a little bit to say that definitively. I loved it. I mean, kind of the theme of "Shorzy" in this character, and something we get into later in the show, but even early is how much he feels like he belongs in hockey and how right that is for him and how much of his identity is tied up into being a hockey player. And watching the scene where you discover his kind of adoptive family or these group of foster kids who became a family, that it seems like something that makes him tick is finding a sense of belonging in his life, like that was a theme before hockey. And so getting to see that family and how they interact and the closeness, because it's kind of, you see a person like "Shorzy" and before this episode, if you were to predict like, what is this guy's family life like, like, how does a person, you know, become "Shorzy" and this is actually a really heartwarming, but instructive look into, okay, this is, this is why some of the ways that he is and why he's so dead set on being a part of this thing that makes him feel like he belongs as long as he can, as long as he can do it because it seemingly took him a long time in those early formative years to find, find a place where he belongs. Yeah, I mean, it was, I can't say not about the entire story like, and I don't know if you want to talk to that. I don't know if you were a kids in the hall fan at all, I was when I was when I loved kids. I was not. Well, Scott Thompson, who plays his father, was a member of kids in the hall and it was, like, it's not the Canadian SML, but it was a Lord Michael's hand, it was just a really wonderful Canadian sketch comedy show, and they did a few movies and they've done some stuff over the past five years, but like, if you're in the Canadian humor at all, you know who Scott Thompson is, I mean, he's incredible and I can't imagine anybody else more perfect to play him, but anyway, that's like his song, but watch it if you haven't, it's very good. Oh, keep that in mind, that sounds lovely. Well, it's him and Dave Foley and Mark McKity and, oh, I cannot believe I care of his name, Kevin McDonald. Yes, and they're brilliant and anyway, that's all. What is your, what is your favorite moment from this episode? This, this episode is strange because it's, it's, it's really like tied up. There's one major set piece, the, the Shore Family Reunion is really the, the bulk of this, of this episode. It's not as much that goes on without it. We get the opener where they're filming the commercial, which is great. We get, we get the family reunion, we get kind of the, the intro to the game against the Norseman. Yeah. I, you know, it's one of those, it's not to make everything about Tableau, so, but for me, it's very much like, um, that, what does it make Rebecca great again? Never? Okay. I didn't know if I was just so in election news that I made that up. I was like, that's what it's called, right? Where you just have so many nuggets of goodness that you kind of forget what all is in it. But I think obviously the family reunion scene is great. The Laura Moore scene, like it's a great Laura Moore interaction. God almighty. I would just, I love that there are people online who live to make these compilations because I've watched Laura Moore, Shoresy compilations so many times. Just when I need like a little pick me up. You are like two Laura Moore and Shoresy. You were like, I would be so good to you too. I would be so good to them. You don't even know. Let's go get some good Caribbean and you get a really powerful, well, I guess two powerful fight scenes again, which is kind of like the calling card of these two creators going back to like, what okay, guys? I think you have the scene with the commentators and Laura slippers and it just, it's so good. It's chock full of goodness. They really hit their stride. Yeah, Remy Nadeau, when I was watching the episode, I was like, I could try to do an impression of these guys. But I won't. But I just, I can't do it. Two French, two Canadian, can't do it. Next time we get Adam on here, he could do, because I was messing with him about. He's like, he just like, once this season, I don't care the sport. But I need you to say like, I, Adam and me, do the plays by play, but do it in a franchise. It's so good. It's so good. And of course, do like a bingo of things if Adam can organically work them into football games this year or baseball, if he can say JJ Frankie, JJ, I'll be so happy in some form or fashion. I do this with him sometimes. I never make it a thing of like, you have to, because then I always worry it'll get inside his head. And you know, so I'll just casually, if I notice like there's a word that we're particularly laughing about, which makes us sound like a very cool couple that we laugh about words, but I will tell you this week's word that we're laughing about is hard to travel. Like, you need to find what is used to put hard to travel somewhere in a broadcast. Make it make sense. It needs to be subtle. But they can happen. But I agree. I think that we should do that. The idea, Kyle, I'll really look at me with the great ideas. Uh, my, my favorite moment of the episode, I think it's, is the short, short as he's adopted father talking about the story of how shores he came to be in his life, how all his other siblings, how big Mo came to be in his life and things like that. And so the first time you watch it, it just catches you completely off guard again, because you just did, you didn't expect this kind of, and I wouldn't even say it's weighty. Um, the, the, the nature of what it is, I mean, you're talking about a foster child. He's probably very scared going to this new house. He's probably, you know, they, they get deep into his eating habits and how big he was. And I think a lot of that is probably like, he's a scared, tennis year old foster child. Um, but they, they do it in such a, again, the most suresy way they make it really light. They make it really funny. They make it really sweet and that's, um, a hallmark of the show and it's like another, another test passed for the show. Can we, can we bring in a little more, a little more emotion, a little backstory, something that's going to make you feel more than just like, you know, watching, watching guys punch each other in hockey. And it, I think they passed the test with flying colors. Yeah. Well, what I found, um, particularly interesting and I, you know, I don't want to speak of ignorance. So I, I would say I am admittedly ignorant to, to foster care, foster systems. And I know that's like, such a, a heartwarming and heartbreaking thing to be a foster parent or to be part of a foster family at all. The thing that struck me, I remember the first time I watched it was like the whole thing and you found out in the last episode, um, right, it was the previous episode. No, no, no. I'm thinking, I'm sorry. The finale where he gets the, uh, jersey where he gets the see back. That's the last one. Sorry. All I skip around a lot. Like it's called suresy, we find out that his last name is sure. And you see, like, it's a very common, like man thing. They'll all call each other very less names. That's cool. Whatever. Um, but to be so attached to his last name that we don't know his first and then come to find out, like you see he's at the shore family reunion, he's like, it's just, you know, he gets his biological family to find out like this was his foster family. This shaped his entire identity. Um, it's very moving and, and of course they do the thing where it's all jokes and, um, you know, then the pretty tense moment with his foster sisters, you know, we were kind of like, I don't, I don't know if I should last, but the bit with the sisters, just keep saying your sister's free. It's one of those, the more you hear it things. I know, but it's so, you know, even from the beginning where you have the two girls dancing and he gets right in the middle of it, I mean, he's clearly comfortable. He's clearly happy when he's with them and we, but we see like from the beginning, you, you didn't call your mom a dad when you landed and then you see him on the phone. Clearly he's talking to his dad. Man, I didn't even clock that. Yeah. The import, the calling your parents saying, holy shit, wow, that's so much more weight, weight to that. I know. It's one of those things that like you don't think about it until you see this and what's very moving. And I have a few friends who either are currently foster parents or they want to be or they've recently adopted people, it's three women in my life actually, the recently adopted children they've fostered. It is just such a stressful heartbreaking thing. And these foster parents, like they, they give so much love knowing it might be a few months, it might be a year or a few years and then, you know, they go and just the weight of, of that alone and just how incredible that is to me is, is just something to think that because they could have said it up, they could have made him, oh, he was put up for adoption, right? They could have just made that story go in a lot of different ways. And you know, I just think like there's obviously a lot more to take out of it. He's clearly very close to his family. I don't, I'm not making a prediction about this. I do think Matt is tied into that somehow. Yeah, I would love to find out more about Nat at some point. Yeah, because even, and I know you can just add it up the parts where I'm dropping spoilers, but is it Laura who says to her like, he, something about her protecting him? Like he really, like he really take care of him, don't you? Or something like that. And that's like, yeah, I do and like I've died to know about that. Anyway, speaking of Laura, as we get into to what worked in the, the Laura Moore moment of this episode, I know now we have context, but putting yourself back in, you're watching season one for the first time. This is, I think their third interaction, right? You know, we've only recently been rewatching these episodes. Why would I remember? It's, it's your second or third. Well, the first one was at the restaurant, obviously, and that I thought this was the second, but I could be wrong. We're good at this. We're doing podcast. We're so, we're so awesome at this. So where, where do you think we're at with Shoresie and Laura Moore, like at this time? As far as it's, it's, it's, it's still, it's very playful. It's like, seems like she's kind of, she's entertaining him again, but she's not, she's not threatened by him, she's enjoying it, but not like the classic, oh, she's just enjoying the attention. Like she's, she, she finds, she finds him endearing, clearly. Yeah. I, and now, mind you, this is under me thinking this is the second interaction. So if I get a bunch of people saying actually it was the third, then just disregard everything I'm about to say. But I think the first time I watched their first thing, I was like, oh, that's a great bit. That's a great scene. See it play out again, like doesn't like, oh, this is a thing. This isn't just like him being annoying. And you could tell, he's breaking her down a little bit, you know, and she's just kind of like, whatever and I don't date slides and all of that. But I think for me, this solidified like, oh, it's not just a bit, there's something here and we just got to figure out what that is because again, he's not being pushy in the sense of, you can tell there's no threatening behavior there or anything. He's not clearly, he's not texting or calling her, like he counts on these in person interactions. I love it. How much b-roll do you think they have of the things that he says to her? Hey, when was the last time you had some good assorted tempura? Like, again, it's, it's that and then it's the, the running gag and this is the thing for the whole show, the running bit of his pregame chirps when he's just getting in the opponent's head, the, all the footage of that and all the footage of the, the things he says to Laura Moore, I could, I could watch a super cut. I'm, I'm sure that footage is around, so release it. Release it. That's to be. And I've always wondered about that too. Not just with the Jersey and Litter County, but shows in general, where you know they have to have tons of like improv footage, why wouldn't you want to release it either like for money or just for like social clout? You know, I'd watch every outtake of every show I've ever loved. I'd watch all that. Release it for money. I'm not going to fall to you, Shorsey. I'll pay the money. I'll pay for it. I'll pay for it. Yeah. 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Just go to indeed.com/bluewire right now and support our show by saying that you heard about Indeed on this podcast. That's indeed.com/bluewire. Terms and conditions apply. Indeed to hire, you need Indeed. Got everything. I think the boys getting jumped, you know, they never waste anything, which the first time I watched this season, I was confused because I kind of just threw away the first episode is like, oh, guys fighting and kind of letter canning-ish anyway with like the bar fight stuff and so that kind of surprised me. I think that whole scene and then you have Lauren's bless her heart who that scene where she's standing outside and she looks gorgeous, but very like approachable woman, right? She's not all done up. And then here comes Lisa and I don't. And you can tell Lawrence feels two inches tall. Yes. She feels unattractive. She feels unappealing. Over. J.J. Frankie J.J. Now I'm not saying a woman should feel any type of way, but I mean, depending how he looks or that the wrong to be more justified if he were a hunk, but my God. It is. It is the bit. It is the bit that it's like this guy with the broken tooth and the big beard. And again, not Dr. Shame how he looks, but one of the running gags in the show is Shorsey talking about how much he eats and it becomes other people talking about how much he eats. I think it's a really funny bit. I do. That's a bit I always like in comedy though is when the like seemingly not the hunkiest dude is just just a stick man and J.J. Frankie J.J. is the consummate stick man in this episode. It's not even like the looks alone, it's the attitude and he's going to sleep with every girl because he can and he's not really going to make a lot of effort to hide that or conceal it because they're just I mean, look, wait, hold on, do this thing again. I'm like, because I just watched the season or the series season finale like a week ago. Same. Same. I was on a flight and I watched it. We're both we're trying not to do like. It's difficult though because it all ties together. Never mind. I was about to make a point that doesn't make any sense. I was going to talk about a later episode. Tune in for when we recap season three, but it's important because you kind of see Laurence like suddenly realizing, oh, this is what he does and it shows that she had some feelings for him. Like she's not there for a photo shoot, clearly, she's dressed like a woman going to a sporting event. She's comfortable. Beautiful. Still, but it's like, and then was that shows up right was that I got that right. And we're seeing like seeing some tension there, but I love how they stack all of that toward the end and then they don't know where the guys are and yeah, it's really good. It is. It is. The hockey we get in this episode is limited. We don't actually get a game. Limited. We get the pregame. But it it also it gives gives more credence. We talked about this. I think when Adam was on the episode about how we have to we have to know that Shorsey is good or that Shorsey contributes and it becomes a running thing, you know, he always brings something. He always finds a way to contribute. In this episode, his guys are not there and title of the episode. If he if he can't win, don't play. He says that to Nat and you're like, is Shorsey going to forfeit? Is he going to? Is he just going to hang it up? Are he going to give up? No, this savvy motherfucker is going to start a fight before the game and get things delayed, which is genius, which is absolutely and it is the veteran move. He he's been in thousands of hockey games at this point and he's like, what do I need to do to get this game pushed back? Why don't I chirp the guy who I've been chirping in warmups the whole time about the massive sea on his jersey and start and start a fight and get this thing delayed and it's truly a savvy all credit, all credit to this and it again, it leads us down this path of he's not the best. He's probably not the best hockey player on this team. We're not led to believe he is, but he's got that that savviness and that veteran presence that you have to have, which is why he is he's the core of this team. It all revolves around him because he's got that prior knowledge. Yeah, and I, you know, we see that obviously play out more and more as the show goes on of like, oh, what a smart thing to do. He knew exactly how to distract, you know, and I think that's kind of a theme, isn't it? Like he knows exactly what to say and do to distract from the real thing of what's going on and not to get too deep about it because I don't think everything has to be a thing or simply that just good storytelling devices, but yeah, no, he's great. It's great. It's a great show. This to me, this is like a perfect episode in terms of if you weren't all in before this point, you are after this. And if you're not, then you're never going to like it, which is fine. We support people liking what they like. We do. We do. We're all, we're all for it, but if you've gotten through this, this point in the show, you should like this show because it's great. I think like to put a bow in what worked about this episode plot wise, you get almost, you get almost nothing like it doesn't further our story that much, but it gives us so much in 20 minutes is it's, and it's not, it's not filler. It's, but it's something that is just, Hey, we need to do a little more character in the series. We don't need them to play another game. We don't need anything to happen. We just need to give you a little more with sure Z and then his character and then includes the funny moments along the way. And it, it's a, it's a perfect example of, of just short compact 20 minute, 20 minute bit of character development. Alex, what's the best quote in this episode? It's too much, but I, I love the, I take a header off the bridge of nations, just to brush arms with the, I mean, what it's incredible to me, I mean, the writing is good, but this scene throughout all three seasons has always been sure Z would do the maximum to get the very minimum with this woman. You would do whatever it always works, it always works. And I just think it's in like 20 and let me take you out for some good Caribbean, um, what was the other one that's in for a line that you brought up earlier? Yeah. Yeah. When's the last time you've had some good assorted template? And like obviously there are wonderful quotes in the family reunion scene as well, but it's hard to pick one because I feel like that scene the way it was constructed is just insane. Um, and it could break and like, you know, it's hard. I will say like as a child who I'm not getting deep, I promise I'm trying to make a point here as a child who's overweight for most of her childhood, it was constantly teased about it. The first time I watched it, I got very uncomfortable during that part where they're like hammering it, like he's full of our spot and that of that, the waffles are like everything and I'm like, oh my God, you feel like you're watching something you shouldn't. Um, but I think again, even that was expertly done and you could tell, Shorty isn't sitting there like, Oh, this is so embarrassing for me. Like he sees it as part of his story and he's going along with it. And I think the big takeaway just personally is like, Thorsy alone is, you know, he shouldn't be left alone, his own devices in a way. When he has a team, his foster siblings or Bora or anybody, that's when he drives because he knows what to work for then when he has other people involved and he can be invested in them. Um, but there are obviously lots of quotes in that scene that I was like, this is so heartwarming and smart and wonderful, but I can't, if there's a Laura Morrison, that's always going to win it. We'll make that the rule. There's a Laura Morrison. We know where Alex's quote is coming from. There are a few other quotes that that tickled me, uh, the beginning when they're filming that commercial. I can't say the entirety of this quote, but everything hit says cracks me up, but then Shorty's response to him after, after hits does his line reading, hits, you're such a fucking beauty. I often forget what an odd looking East Coast seaward you are. Are you and your family looking for something fun to do on a Sudbury Saturday night? The italics are fucking them up. What do you add? Oh man. You're such a fucking beauty. I sometimes forget what an odd looking East Coast. Kind yard, which apparently the seaward is okay to say now. It seems it seems okay to say in this show. Yeah. And so I'm not telling you to do that. I just mean like by society standards, it seems like we're okay with that. Yeah. Is the seaward back. That was a good one. I don't know if we're the ones who get to decide, but if the seaward's back, the seaward's back. I heard it a bunch over in foggy London town. Yeah. They're big on that though. That's like, that's, I mean, they love it when you call it foggy London town by the way. Oasis is back. So the seaward might be back. Yes. I love it. They're bringing it back. Another one with the, when Shorsey and Freer going back and forth, get a room you fucking sister wife. It's okay. I mean, it was just very much like, again, you feel like you're watching something you shouldn't be allowed to, because it's so much a, they can all say these things to each other. But don't let a single outsider, like they would fight for them, right? So it's the whole thing of like, would you go to the wall for me? Then that's all I need to know. Shorsey would kill anyone who said that to his siblings would rip them limb from limb, but he will say it freely. Yep. Uh, there's also, when, when Zeig is getting on, Zeig and Nat are getting on Shorsey about showing up late to, uh, showing up right before warmups, it's senior whale should hot easy, not the fucking night's watch. So good. God, it's so good. I loved the gyms when he asks the last time they've worked out. I just thought anything with the gyms is kind of the pacing of it. The writing is very much like musical theater quick answers, quick answer and then, and then Jim with the, the longer answer is a third. Yeah. It was wonderful. We haven't mentioned, we also get Michael's back. Michael's comes back. He's going to be the goalie. We, we get that back and forth and it does, it does lead to my last nominee for, for best quote, when he's, he's talking to Shorsey's, they're talking about the squeezer with Saga beach and he, you know, you're taking a dump in the water. Everybody was taking a dump in the water. It's fucking was Saga. Wonderful. I don't even like, I don't, I don't know anything about was Saga beach, but yeah, that's funny to me. You don't have to because that's what they do so well is like at their, it's kind of like Schitt's Creek or any great product that has come out of Canada because I just had many times on this show, they do comedy better than just everybody. Ultimately, they want to make a great Canadian product for Canadians by Canadians. However, they are smart enough to know Canada looks great if you can make it appealing to Americans. They just makes us look better. And so I do, I mean, I can't obviously speak to them. I will say it would be a very smart thing if your storytelling and your writing was informed by that of how do we make this appealing to somebody who does not know or have, has the context. What we're talking about, how will they understand, like even if I don't know that, I know what they mean. Yeah. It's really good. It gives us a good idea of what was Saga beach is all about. Yeah. I want to go. Yeah. Same. I, if you can dump, like if you can dump in the water, but underwater squeezers are a thing, like there's some give, there's some take there. It seems like a fun place. Just the whole, we could devote an episode of me just being fascinated by the concept, I think of the aqua, that's a grown person. You want to do a 50 minute episode on aqua dumps, the aqua dumps, be real with me. You're a man and your friends with men. You've known tons of men in your life and athletes too, which are a different breed as we know. Is that like a fairly common thing? I don't know anyone who's ever done that. Okay. That's okay. It just seems deeply uncomfortable, deeply, deeply weird. I don't know how you do it. I'm also worried about like it floating up on me, you know? That's the thing. The scene where they actually show it happening. Remember what episode was that, which one? I actually showed the scene underwater and then it, it just seems to be unsanitating. Yeah. It's just, it's, you know, it's not for me. Each that are aqua dumps is probably not my thing. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna pass support every, listen, if you're someone who, when you go to a lake trip or a beach trip, if an aqua dump is what brings you joy in life, by all means, like live your truth, but it's just not going to be for me. Not for us. Not for us. Let the record show. The Lenny Harris Pitcher Award for best supporting character, best non-shorzy character. That comes in his dad book. I think it's his dad's true. His dad. Yeah. The dad for sure. Like, and I, I need people to understand how important this man is to Canada and comedy in general. And I think that to me is what really does, because they could have gotten tons of characters to do that. The fact that it's him just blew me away the first time I watched it, but I think, you know, another thing too is, like, when they talk about the sisters and how they say they were only foster sisters for a year and a half, like, it's just, it's, it's clear without saying it, like, shorzy, obviously, like, presumably got adopted by him. Or if he didn't, he at least took his last name, but I feel like he got adopted. And then it wasn't temporary and like, that's the only home he knows is this man. God, it's so good. And the thing is, I don't have the prior relationship that you do with him. I, he has no relationship with him. Well, you knew who he was. I have no face. I had no facial recognition of him. I did not know who that actor was, and he still carries the same weight for me in this episode. So I think that makes him an easy pick. You got to, I'm going to give you some, you got to go back and watch. You know who Dave Foley is, right? Yes. You can watch news, radio. Yeah. I didn't, but I'm, I'm familiar with Dave Foley. Okay. And Mark McKinney, he, he was on SNL for a little bit, but he was an original kid in the hall and he's on Superstore. He told the manager, like, it's a very, sorry, I'm doing that thing again, where I'm like, this is important. You're going to have to send me some clips. I'm going to expect. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. So I can get, I can get well versed in this before our next episode. I will. Alex, best Neil drop. I need you to cook here. Okay. If this were a typical, sure as the episode, I tend to default to, like, whatever the fight scene or the big game scene is. And in this case, that would be high octane, which plays when the boys get jumped. It's incredible. Or I would go with the closing song more often than not, which is killing on demand. And it's great, but given this episode and how special it is, it's father, father objectively. Objectively, if not the best Neil drop of the season, I don't know, ask me that again, we usually ended the season. That's the Kyle Bandu. Oh, I have Herbalie award for getting out over your skis when talking about a needle drop. But it's absolutely father, father, at the start of the reunion scene. And it's incredible. And that's why you're the best in the business because I knew that that analysis was coming. And I wouldn't call him analysis as it is just like, this is my brain said, but I did run it by Adam, who has a gig tonight. He's got a DJ gig. So I feel like he knows more about needle drops, literally, and he was like, dropping needles. That's correct. Yeah. Literally dropping. He's on the ones and twos. And I was like, so here's my reasoning and I went into that whole thing and he's like, this is absolutely correct. Great job. So you have two people endorsing that love that love that for us. Now, the Peter Gallagher Award for the hottest person in this episode, or more. I mean, I can't argue with it. Laurent Slobuf looks good. The buff. Yeah. I miss always I was gonna before this episode, I was thinking like, oh, we should just we should retire not from this category. And then I remembered a later episode and. No, you've got, I know exactly the shot was watching that on the door when she was watching that on a plane, and it was just like, my boy, one of these, oh, my God, yeah, we're gonna. We're not in the meeting. No one. Here's why I say, here's why I say Laura, though, and it's not just because I love her. This woman is a journalist. She is like, and this is her job. And when he finds her in the hallway, she's pouring from a flask just so she can get through the night. I really respect it. I respect it. I relate to it. We know she's a single mother. So she has a hard time. She's just trying to make it in the world. And here comes Shorzy. And she has the flask, like, we love that. I mean, if you're covering senior whale shit hockey, like, you need a flask. Triple A. The whale shit. All right. Fair. That's a big section. Apologies to big section. Now you've upset big section, but that's time worst time. There's actually not a lot of bad times in this episode. Not a lot of bad times. I mean, the boys getting jumped. Yeah. That's, I mean, getting jumped. I've never been jumped, but getting jumped seems bad. Yeah. Seems terrible. But even then, it's like, we see with that shot, like, they're on their way. Yeah. When they show the shot of the empty alley, like, they're not there. So, yeah. That one really had a worst time. I'd say best time is Shorzy's dad got all the kids together. Got all the kid witches. Yeah, the reunion. It's tough. Yeah. Shorzy's dad's having a great time. I think Shorzy is having a good time just being around his family. He's not having a great time when his guys aren't there. But I also think Shorzy loves fighting. So he might be having a great time at the end. That's the thing, because it's a theme of, like, he knows how to, you know, start a scene to get people distracted. Or to get in trouble long enough to come in and win. Like, he's a win-it-all-cost kind of guy. So, and we see, like, they're clearly showing us the parallels of, like, that started in his youth. Mm-hmm. So thank you for holding our hand. Yes. I think Michael's also having a bad time. He's continuing to get shit on by Shorzy, continuing to struggle to get respect. That's tough. I know. But it'll turn around for him. He's fine. He's spending all his money on a girl. So, like, I don't feel too sorry for him. He's hitting at a shot. He might be eternal worst time until we know he gets rid of that floor mattress. If you have the floor mattress, you're continually having the worst time. To be fair, I currently have a floor mattress, but it's just because my bed has to be built by me, because I'm not hiring anyone. Yeah. You've... For reasons I discussed in the group chats. You did. Yeah. Worst time... You, for having a person... Worst time is me. For having that person build that entryway thing. Yep. Uh, roster moves. Who'd you swap out with airbud? Could you... Okay. Here's a question. What about two airbuds? Sure. The commentators? Yes. Oh. Can dogs bark in French? I almost said three separate things just now, and I held that. We're asking the hard-hitting questions here, but his dogs bark in French. As someone who can speak French decently enough to get around, like if you plopped me down in Paris right now, I could get to a hotel, I could order a meal, I could... Directions I could discuss in my family and stuff. And all I could think is just the dumbest jokes of their inflection, and just how they're like whoops. It would just be very stupid, like the Emily and Paris version of dogs. Do you ever think about that? Like if we're getting... You know, it's 47 minutes into the show. If you're a French dog, and then you go to like Arkansas, it's gotta be wild. I love that you chose to stay that I grew up in as an example. Yeah, that would be wild to come from France, and to suddenly be an Arkansas, but yeah, I feel like, you know, like a British dog. Okay. Did you see the 101 Dalmatians, like the animated version from the '60s? Yes. It was my favorite movie, it's again. I remember the beginning scene when Pongo was like looking out at all the dogs and how they look like their owners, and like they're pussy or they're just kind of lazy and sloppy. That's kind of how I imagine it, like British dogs, they wouldn't say anything, but they'd be embarrassed for you, and French dogs, who I assume are all poodles, that is what comes up with my life. And all French dogs smoke cigarettes. Yes, they smoke cigarettes, they drink at noon, they, you know, their collar's very chic, no labels, like, ah, I love French things, but yeah, so French airbuds, that's what we're going with. I think that's the move. I don't, I don't have anything better. I do think just as a running thing, it would be very funny if the gyms were all airbuds. If the enforcers on the team were three golden retrievers who it's like gyms got a set, airbuds got to set the tone. The airbuds have to go out there and fight somebody. That would be incredible, actually. Yeah, I like that, too. Alex, who gets a stick in this episode? Which character gets the episode stick? I want to be repetitive. Can you go first? Hmm. Yes, for me, I mean, I mean the dad, sure as his dad, I know, I mean, yeah, that that story. He is molded. You know what? Big Mo might get the stick because he owns a Tim Hortons franchise owner, operator of a Tim Hortons. That's true. We could put him for best time, too, because it seems like he's, he's really thriving as a businessman. Having a great time, I mean, that's the thing is like, you don't have to attend family unions. You're only forced to go to them when your parents make you go. But once you're grown, you don't want to do those short anymore. If you go to a family reunion as a grown person without a child, like you're doing it because you want to be there. Like, clearly, these people had a really lovely childhood and it clearly shows these dad is amazing. Oh, he, I don't know what the Canadian Medal of Freedom is. Like, whatever the equivalent is, but he deserves it. Like him, Mo, I got to know more about the sisters. Got to know more. Yeah. I got to know more for so many reasons. But yeah. Yeah. I mean, if we're, if we're getting into like, we're 50 minutes in, if, you know, if you don't want any, any spoilers of what else happens in the show, like, thanks for listening. We'll see you next week. But if we're getting into like the, the, what we would want for more suresy, we don't, we get, we get more suresy family, not a ton more. Two scenes? Maybe. Maybe. Because there's that, there's that scene where he's there for dinner or meal or something. The, um, most daughter brings her, her boyfriend. Yeah. And I can't remember if there's anything else, but like, I think that's definitely more meat on the bone there. Well, like his dad in season three, when it's time for him to hang it up, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause they're, yeah. That they, they talk about, okay. Yeah. So there, I think there's a scene in season two and a scene in season three. Cause I think in season two, they're talking about like, go, you know, get the record, like bring it home, whatever. And then in season, in season three, it's about talking about hanging it up. Yeah. But anyway, then anyway, yeah, I've just, I'm more, I'm more speaking. I'm just, I'm just yelling out loud and I would like, I would like to see more of them. I think, uh, I think the, the shore family dynamic is very enjoyable and definitely the highlight of this episode. I'm very excited to send you a bunch of kids in the hall. I can't wait. I, I, I. Let's do, it's very dumb, but it's important. I look forward to it. Well, and I also look forward to next week when we talk about shorts, season one, episode five, but until then Alex, where can the folks follow you? I only Alex, Twitter, not there very much Instagram. I've had some decent Instagrams lately. You did. You've been popping off in this year. For content. Does your peeing grams? I know. I don't do the gram for the content, like in terms of, I don't make money or anything. It's really just to show you how weird my life is, like Jack's had some, some nice FaceTime, uh, yeah, it's very weird to not be able to promote things out loud. I look forward to it. I promise there will be very much look forward to, to you coming on here and shouting out again, shouting out the content where the content can be found and the content can be found in movies, the ball is the greatest sports films of all time, analyze and illustrated, which is available for pre-order wherever books are sold out on September 24th. So very little delayed gratification here, if you order, it will be, it'll be in a few weeks. It's like a big piece of furniture, except it's a small little $27 book and it looks great on shelf. 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