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Terms and conditions apply. LinkedIn. The place to be, to be. Right here for the culture. Love you. So we have to, I think, at the top here. Take at least a brief moment to acknowledge the fact that TMC, your beloved TMC got it wrong. Well, I think everybody got it wrong. It wasn't just TMC, but TMC is, you know, you've kind of heralded them as a reliable source of celebrity and cultural news. Of every kind of news, TMC is one of the best news outlets of our time that both follows journalistic standards and reports on things that rich people do, famous people do, that other places won't touch. But they were wrong this time, and that was surprising. They were wrong that what Beyonce was going to show up at the Democratic National Convention. Right, because TMC was the one that reported that, right? I mean, it started for me on Twitter. I'm not entirely sure where, like, Patient Zero is on all this, but, like, it was a Twitter rumor. But then, like, I want to say Reuters, there were other, like, reputable news outlets that were saying that Beyonce was going to show up. And there was all this-- Everything, a chunk of time, was, like, cut out of the DNC for a special surprise, which there wasn't, right? Yeah. And then you and I were going back and forth on a text thread about whether or not it would be Taylor Swift. I was trying to track her private jet from-- Brad is underplaying how intense he was about, okay, in the Swiftie community, there's something called clowning. Have you ever heard of this term? I have not. I mean, I've heard of clowning, but not in a Swiftie context. So there's, like, for example, the Swifties will, like, read Easter eggs in, like, a psychotic way that even I don't understand, and they'll get to the conclusion that, okay, reputation Taylor's version, which is one of the last re-records that Taylor is doing. They're, like, it's going to drop tonight because of-- She put up a number two when she was on stage, and then if you go into her Instagram captions, there's, like, three dots, and they're, like, all this just wild shit, right? And when you do that, it's called clowning. You're clowning for reputation TV. It's not going to happen. You're always saying it's going to happen. You're clowning. You were clowning. It was a true Swiftie experience is what you had. I think I might have a tendency to clown in a lot of scenarios. I think they're, like, right. Trying to read tea leaves, trying to figure shit out on the internet. It's, like, a losing proposition. I mean, I think it comes from a place of, like, not being-- You know, you want to be, like, last half full. Like, oh, maybe all this good stuff's going to happen. Maybe, like, this cool thing is, like, being hinted at, whereas I'm, like, good things don't happen and you're wrong. And unfortunately, oftentimes, that's the case. Look at the light, Mira, come on. Yeah, that's a-- my parents made a mistake. Yeah, and for those of you listening, we should say that Mira's name is Mira Luce Gonzalez. And Mira Luce means look at the light. Her parents were trying to conjure a bright, sunny, optimistic child, but instead-- And then they got my ass. So, yeah, no Beyonce at the DNC, no Taylor Swift at the DNC. No happy child for my parents. Yeah, it was all just a complete wash. But the other thing, I mean, briefly, politically, that I think kind of crosses over into cultural news is that RFK Jr., the scion of the Kennedy, you know, political dynasty and the namesake of his father, Bobby Kennedy, endorsed Trump. Dropped out and endorsed Trump. Which, it makes like, it makes very little sense. It's like two very strange people sort of uniting. What are you going to do, endorsed Harris? I mean, of course, he's endorsing Trump. He's like always been a weird piece of shit. I don't, yeah, it doesn't surprise me in the least. And he's not going to get like a cabinet position from Harris, and he might get something from Trump, you know? I mean, what would it be? That's what's terrifying, because like this guy, does he want to be in charge of like the health and human services? Yes. That's what he wants, and God for fucking bit. I mean, I think who knows what Trump is crazy enough to do, but God, I really fucking hope not otherwise. We're all going to fucking die. I mean, what's so funny about it? I mean, it's just so brazen, because you see all of these like recent tweets from both of them, just hating on each other. And Bobby Kennedy being like, I will never endorse Trump. He's a mad man, you know? Well, it's just like fucking Ted Cruz, like in 2016, where it's like he was like, Trump is a piece of shit, and like Trump was like, your wife's ugly, and then like they were having like dinner. Like as soon as Trump was like the nominee officially, like it's so stupid. It's stupid, but also like terrifying. These people have no integrity. It's just like, yeah, you want to dangle a cabinet position in front of me? I will completely scuttle all of my most deeply held ideals in the name of trying to acquire power for myself, but-- I mean, a politician with integrity, that's that's wishful thinking on your side. I feel like we both represent the different ends of optimism. You're like, good things can happen. And I'm like, no, they cannot, Brad. That is very silly of you. I think there are a few. I don't think they're necessarily normal. I don't think there's no politician with integrity. But I think that there are-- You have integrity in the beginning oftentimes. That's what I was just going to say. I think I would actually say that maybe even a majority of people who get into politics get into it with good intentions, but that system is sick. Brace them down. And it breaks them down, yeah. Yeah, that's absolutely true. So there's another piece of RFK related news. Kind of pre-RFK situations that we're all putting into this topic. Yeah, so the first is that he endorsed Trump. I don't think there's anything else to say about it. I don't-- I guess the question is, do you think it helps Trump to have RFK's endorsement? I guess. I mean, like, yeah, probably. I mean, and so much is like RFK's-- I don't think RFK running would have really taken so many votes away from Trump that it would have been the difference between him losing or winning. But I mean, I'll probably help him a bit. I'm a bit. Yeah, I think it's like-- I don't know. We'll have to see. But I don't think-- the early returns are not like striking. It's like a striking difference. I mean, RFK didn't have-- he had a lot of followers for who he is and for the fact that he was running independent and shit like that. But he doesn't have a lot of followers for a presidential candidate necessarily. He's educated and loud followers. But not like, as many voters, people who will vote Democrat or Republican. RFK Jr. is like the most prominent anti-vaxxer in the country, right? He's like this hardcore anti-vaxxer. Trump created the vaccine and then thumped his chest about it. So there are RFK followers who are like-- his followers because they are anti-vaxxers who are like-- they can't believe that he's endorsing Trump. So it's complicated and very strange. And those are people who would never vote for Trump or Harris to begin. They're going to vote for Tulsi Gabbard or some weird shit like that. I honestly am fascinated by the psychology of the RFK crowd. Like, what animates him? I think it's a variety of things. But like, he's such a strange man to like glom onto. He's like so kind of like charismaless. I mean, he's been doing this for like a really long time. So I guess there are people who have been following this who are into weird health shit and have read like his anti-vaccine books early on. He was like one of the first people to kind of pioneer the like autism vaccine situation. So he's been one of these like freaks. Which has been debunked? Yeah, a million times over. Like, of course it has. It's just the fakest thing in the world. The only reason why people-- and this is so stupid, but the only reason why people believe that to begin with is that the rise of autism coincided with the rise of vaccines. And that only happened because we discovered what autism was and gave it a diagnosis in like the 80s. And that's also when we started mandating vaccines. So like, it's like, it's not a causation. It's a correlation. And like, these people have just spent their whole lives thinking it's causation. Yeah, so I don't know that does damage. I got to say, you know, speaking of clowning and being like a tin foil hat person, when you listen to RFK, like especially on Ukraine, where he's like talking about how we need to just like cut Ukraine loose and let Russia have it essentially, he's doing Putin's bidding in a lot of ways. And Putin and like American adversaries also have been known to spread anti-vax propaganda on social media because it makes our population less healthy. It's so chaos. So I'm like, in my tin foil hat world, I'm like, he would be-- I'm not saying this. I have no evidence for this. So I'm just speculating here. And Brian gets very tin foil hat about Russia. So like prepare yourself. Yeah, I don't like Putin at all. And I think he's a really-- Well, they're July, but like you get very intense about it. Well, I just think they've fucked with our elections and he kills journalists and throws people off of roofs. Like this is a cartoon. No, you think the Republican Party are like Manchurian candidates kind of, right? Like more-- Well, I think Trump is. I think there's-- Not the whole party, but people in it. People in it. And you know what? Also, some Democrats probably are tangled up in Russian money. And like, you know, it's a weird, nebulous world. A laugh, right? It's like the Bernie Sanders and AOC. They just love Putin and they're-- No, they don't. No, they don't. They actually don't. And they're becoming funny. Of course they don't. Yeah, but the-- like just hear me out on this. Like if you are Russia or Iran or any foreign adversary or some foreign country who's trying to sow chaos in the American political system, the namesake of the most famous democratic political dynasty, I mean, RFK Jr., a guy who is like known to be an addict and like a ne'er-do-well son, I mean, at least in his-- A genius Kennedy. Yeah, in his earlier years, like a guy who's like struggled with drugs and has been sort of debauched and-- Kills animals in the fucking craziest ways and just like God knows what? He would be an obvious target for a foreign intelligence service to say, "Honey Trap," which is how they do this usually. They honey trap these people. They put them in proximity to some pretty girl. They then get them on tape doing God knows what. And they have leverage. It's not crazy to me to think that that might have happened. Like, I mean, Bobby Kennedy, like someone asked him about sexually assaulting his children's babysitter and he was like, "Listen, I'm no church boy." Yeah, exactly. He's like, "I've done some shit in my past." I mean, and you know what? We have all done some shit in our past. Okay, but we have not all raped somebody. That's right. And so, if he's willing to say that, like sort of casually, and this may have happened when he was done with his like hardcore drug phase, what might he-- like, what might have he had done? Well, I think that's a good transition into the next two RFK stories that we have, which reveal that like, there is no fucking way in hell that this man hasn't done some of the worst things that a person can do, just with the stories that are coming out. So-- It's strikingly unusual, these stories. So what do we got? I mean, like, what's the latest on him? Okay, so dropped out, endorsed Trump. We know that. So I guess now, Ben Affleck are one of our favorite stories. Also, we didn't include this in the topics, just because it's very obvious, but him and Jennifer Lopez did officially get divorced. They did, yeah, finally. And never since then, Jennifer Lopez has been posting pictures of herself looking really hot. I respect the way that she will-- you'll never see her down. She gets divorced. Next day, she will be looking hot as hell on a yacht. She's like going Elizabeth Taylor-style with divorces, which I kind of respect. I feel like she'll be dating somebody else too soon. I'm going two seconds. She'll bounce back. She'll bounce back ASAP. And she'll get another husband. And I hope she gets 20 husbands throughout her life. I think that that's nice for her. What's the number? Yeah, is there a number that would satisfy you? Is it 20? Well, what did Elizabeth Taylor have? That was that size. Six. Six is OK. Yeah. I want to say it was six, something like that. I think even five would be-- I'd be like, all right, you're kind of chic. Honestly, how many did she ask right now too? She's had four. Four. That's chic. She's already chic. It's already chic. It's already chic. It's held for divorces. And she still looks that good constantly. Yeah. Never breaks down. That's kind of like she seems-- and I know for a fact that she's an incredibly rude and difficult and shitty person to work with, but that's kind of sick. The divorces are kind of cool. She's a pro celebrity. She is nobody to mess with. She's a formidable celeb. And she likes to be famous, right? You ever think about the fact that if Selena was never killed by what's her face, then JLo would never be famous? I mean, I've never thought of that, to be honest, but I guess, you know, fate has its way of turning, right? I mean, certain things happen, and next thing you know. You know, one person's loss is Jennifer Lopez's gain. So okay, so Jennifer Lopez, then I've like done some splitskis. They've been that for a week now. It's been calming for like months. Been a long time coming. So he now, I guess, has been seen with a kick Kennedy spelled like kick like a drop kick. Now, can we talk about the name first, like it? Yeah. What the fuck? This is this is the kind of name that only my daughter punch. It only is bestowed upon the waspiest of wasps. Yeah. This is the waspiest fucking name kick, like flop, what are you know, there's a tip tippy, like all that sort of shit. It's just old money. Yeah. You can't have a name like that and get away with it unless you are to the man or board. Yeah. And it's still fucking ridiculous and it just makes me feel like all rich people kind of hate their children. I don't know. Maybe it's a nickname. I guess it's sort of cute. Maybe it was like some kind of like in utero thing if it was a you know, maybe it's cute as a nickname, but I don't think it's even a nickname. So this leads to another horrifying story, which I have open on my phone, just to let. But wait, Ben Affleck is dating kick Kennedy. Yes. Can I just say like in like this is, this often happens in the culture in ways that kind of, uh, rankle me or cause me like sort of mild upset is the way in which like these stories converge like the Ben Affleck and J. Low story somehow converges with the Trump RFK Jr. story. This is these circles of celebrity and like great wealth and privilege rich people are like a small community and they all are it's like there's a couple hundred. Maybe a thousand of them and they're all just constantly intermingling and they can't really intermingle with civilians. I've always they always intermarry. They like a celebrities always date other celebrities on the second they intermingle with the civilian they're no longer a civilian and then that person is involved in the whole fucking situation. But like there are rare instances like Matt Damon speaking of Ben Affleck Matt Damon married like a bartender. That's like did he he married just like a normie like normal lady been married for like 35 years or something like that. Matt Damon seems to be in a good marriage like it's like more celebrities should take note and like you know. It's hard though if you don't meet that person before you get famous it's like Matt Damon never after he got famous. I mean that's fucking rare that is rare as fuck and difficult. That's like you know and you don't you rarely rarely rarely ever see that with women and husbands with women dating men. You often not often but sometimes you see a Piers Brosnan or a Matt Damon who's stated it was been married to the same lady forever but it's much more rare that famous women have been married to the same guy forever and the guy is not famous. I think because of ego. I think men have a hard time being with women who are like more successful than them. Maybe yeah I think that's true. Where men don't struggle as much with it. Yeah I wouldn't struggle with it. No matter. My wife can become famous. I'll be happy to be her side piece. You'll be like hell yeah money. I'm fucking looking at my kids hang out podcast. No problem. I would love it. I mean I'm with you look fucking I'm sitting here waiting for Tyler to become a billionaire so that I can give away all our money and stop being billionaires. Yeah well let's I mean Ben and kick I guess I wish them happiness. He seems to be like I wish him happiness. I don't have any problem with any of these people you know like it's just. Did you see the story J.Lo dropped that was like Ben Affleck has a darkness to him that no woman can solve. Maybe so. You know but like. That's just all men from Boston I think. I think it's clearly like PR spin too. It's like trying to get the upper hand on the narrative and all the shit that goes down and like a in a acrimonious divorce. It's sad and like I mean I think you had it right. There was something sort of manic and rushed about the return of Ben Affleck and like getting back into that relationship and I think. We've all fallen back into the arms of an ex and then been like holy shit I was insane. Yeah I was right the first time that this you know wasn't a good fit and so. God why. I feel bad for him that it blew up and that it didn't work out and. Seems like he's moved on though. Oh yeah he seems I don't know he's got like depression and addiction issues he's talked about it. Say what? Does he have addiction issues? Yeah very well like I mean I've heard him on I've heard him talk about it on Howard Stern really openly and like cocaine and stuff right. Yeah alcohol all of it but I'm sure like he you know I'm sure like got that annoying piece of ship brother too that would make me do drugs. Way to see not a good guy. Casey Affleck no no he's not. Is anybody good I just want people to be good. No they're not and it's better to like with people that wealthy it's guilty until proven innocent that's how I live my life and it's a lot easier. See I always I'm always like yeah I'm just like rooting for you and then like it's about not getting parasocial it's like okay I've like well that's a lie I was gonna say I've liked some movies Casey Affleck it's been him but I don't think that I actually have but like. Oh my God what was that movie I fucking saw it was like it was like Thanksgiving weekend you know how everybody goes to the movies like on like Friday after Thanksgiving or whatever we were with my folks and so we left the kids with my folks my wife and I never get to go out because of our kids you know we have the fucking ghost story is that what you saw we saw Manchester by the sea even worse oh my fucking god that movie destroyed me that was the most like literally we're like ah we're finally like free we can go ahead and see a movie have a glass of wine and like you know all that's married dating shit and like we go to see Manchester by the sea and like literally just drove home and like a like shattered silence yeah went to bed so like the thing is about like have you ever heard that John Waters quote that's like when I go to the movies I want to have a bad time that's how I feel about movies I want to come out of the movie like oh fuck I'm scared I'm ruined this but but it has to be in a certain way if it's like all the kids in the movie died oh no or like the family is like getting a terrible divorce or people are falling out of love no but if it's like you know Tony kalette is chopping her head off with piano wire yes like well yeah like a horror movie I think is actually I said this restful movie I can enjoy like a really like uncut gem style like stress like intense thing I can really like but that kind of sadness that's too much it was yeah I'm I like listen life is sad enough I don't I don't need it I don't need extra you know like I don't and I don't need anybody to like clarify that for me like I got it yeah like the sad life is fucked up yeah it's awful I got it so okay so the reason why we bring up in off like besides the fact that we just like him and he's one of our favorite ongoing pop culture things is that he is dating fucking kick Kennedy with her fuck ass name I've never heard of her before I've never I know nothing I know nothing about kick Kennedy neither of I but apparently she is one of our case children fun fact that I learned today Taylor Swift in like a decade ago or something like that she was incredibly fascinated with the Kennedy's it was like one of her obsession she read like all these books about the Kennedy women and shit like that and she then started dating Connor Kennedy and like infiltrated the Kennedy family they like also known as chop chop no I'm just kidding oh my god I was about to be like holy fuck seriously but apparently that's also RFK's child I did not know so there were photos of Taylor Swift and RFK hanging out of barbecues together yeah I mean that's not a thing like as we were saying these circles are small so in this there's an article about kick Kennedy after the spin-off like thing came out and after RFK dropped out I guess I don't really know why there was an article about her but in this article she tells yet another horrifying RFK dead animal story now I feel like I should do some kind of warning here because this one's like really really really disgusting so if you're eating maybe like pause for a moment or something like that wow so I'm just going to read the quote exactly so when kick was six years old um RFK junior got word that a dead whale had washed up on Squaw Island in Hyannis port and I don't really know where that is that's in Massachusetts okay so Bobby who likes to study animal skulls and skeletons ran down to the beach with a chainsaw cut off the whale's head and then bungee quartered it to the roof of the family minivan for the final five hour haul back to Mount Kisco New York so a whale head a dead whale head bungee quartered to the top of his fucking car at a minivan every time we accelerated on the highways is keep talking to that every time we accelerated on the highway whale juice would pour into the windows of the car and it was the rankest thing on the planet we all had plastic bags over our heads with mouth holes cut out for the disgusting whale juice that was coming into the car and people in the highway were giving us the finger this was normal day to day stuff for us wait why are your windows open on the highway with whale juice pouring into your fucking car I don't think that the windows were necessary well Jesus I mean if the windows were open that's fucking fucked but like I think maybe it was like the smell like but I was imagining them just like it just like leaking through the fucking windows because there's so much fucking whale juice like a whale's head is fucking gigantic and you want to look at the skull what are you going to do with it we're going to put it it's a whale skull it's huge it's like as big as my bedroom it's just odd like listen I get if you're like if you're like truly a scientist if you're truly like a marine biologist or something don't show up to the beach with a chainsaw yeah you have a team you have a fucking jacusto yeah exactly you have a team that is fucking taking samples and doing all this shit you don't show up with a chainsaw and take the head of I mean like the head of a whale that is so gigantic that how did he carry did all the kids help him carry that to the car again there are a lot of details here that I don't understand that I need to know more about you know and like this might be a reach but this feels like rich people shit it's rich people shit and it's also psychopath shit like torturing small animals or large animals or liking dead animals in general psychopath shit that fucking bear story I have something to say about that bear story that I didn't say before where we're RFK junior like planted a dead baby bear in Central Park and tried to stage it as though a bike had run over it and right and claims that the way you found the bed dead bear was that a lady ran over it in her band hit with her van right okay I spoke to somebody I know who is a friend of my mother-in-law who lives in I want to say Colorado summer where there are bears regularly and I asked her do you ever see a bear cub without its mom and an instant said no never never ever if there's a bear cub its mom is nearby that says to me that he shot the bear cub shot the mom took the bear cub I think it's unlikely it's always always possible that like the mother was nearby but the mother I asked like if you would shot I literally asked if you would shot or hit the bear cub with your car with the mother run away she said no the mother would run towards a dead bear yeah I think so I mean this man is a psychopath he's killing whales and bears like those are big fucking animals I just think and dirt dogs like fucking crazy shit well he didn't kill the whale the whale was dead okay he chopped his head off imagine being next I I've seen a dead whale on a beach it's horrific it is a horrific site it smells terrible it's huge it's disgusting you don't want to look at it you want to run from it like like I cannot imagine taking a chainsaw to that and just to be like you know like kind of an amateur naturalist this guy I mean our cage in here doesn't have any training right I don't think he has any no he was like an environmental preservationist or something like that but he doesn't know shit about fucking cutting a whales head off it just seems like it's the kind of thing where it's like yeah I can do this yeah it would never occur to me to be like oh yeah I there's a dead whale on the beach it's my right to go like chop its head off and strap it to my you know I should be the one to examine this whales brain or whatever social behavior and you're right it's rich people shit to be like oh it's fine for me to do this like I'm allowed to like no one would be so presumptuous as to be like it fine for me to do this yeah it's like it's like it's like the weirdest way it's kind of a reach but I think there's some truth to it like being like yeah I'm gonna chainsaw this whales head off and strap it to my minivan it's the kind of thing only I think a really rich person would probably feel like yeah it's a good idea like my grandpa is he does spearfishing he's like a but professional fucking scuba diver like he does this shit there was a dead whale on the beach he showed it to me it was a whole crazy thing and he went to the people who were doing the removal of the whale and said can I have one of the bones and they were like you're fucking insane but sure and my grandpa has a giant whale bone it's really cool but like that's what you would do if you want a piece of a fucking dead whale you go to the professionals and you're like can I have this part of the whale or whatever my grandpa knew he wanted a piece of the spine to use as a seat in his house and it's neat but like why would you do with a fucking chainsaw yourself that's psychotic I mean yeah I don't know the whole thing's so fucking odd it just is and uh I mean is that it for RFK we've got his daughter dating Ben Affleck he chopped the whales head off and strapped it to the van and like it was so dropped out of the race and he dropped out of the race and like basically you know I don't even know how you match up I mean this guy's like an supposedly an environmentalist I'm gonna move his campaign I wish that like I want more of those insane stories to come out I feel like it was really entertaining I think there might be some more I think so too I hope so I mean there's got to be Oppo happening I mean he dropped out and this one came out right away so like and this was like his daughter being like haha funny stories so god knows what else there is like charming like dear old dad oh dad always did wacky things like that I mean maybe maybe I'm like maybe I'm going overboard maybe it's like he just loves animals and he's into dead animals but he loves animals so he shot two bears and he fucking cut a whales deadly allegedly theoretically shot two bears we don't know if he theoretically allegedly shot two bears but fact had his fist in a baby bear's brain for a picture he did yeah they had like professionals looked at it and they were like his fist is halfway into that bear's brain he's a strange guy he's a psychopath yeah he's got problems he's a fucking psycho so okay let's see so that's that's what we got for RFK right I'm always feel like I'm forgetting something with RFK because they're so fucking much but I think that's it he contains multitudes I'm sure we'll come back we probably will revisit RFK at some point but I feel like that covers it for this week what else is there in the celebrity cultural firmament so this isn't exactly celebrity news but maybe you've heard of it it's a story that I've been just following so closely because it's so fucking horrifying so there are two astronauts right now they went to the international space station eight months ago right for an eight day mission for research into some space shit I don't really know they have been now out there for I believe four months so they went out there for an eight day mission they've been out there for four months because the ship that they're in I it started I don't really understand how spaceships work but it was like it started leaking helium or something like that it likes to it fucked up their ship it worked out it didn't work anymore got the second space can't drive the ship back to earth guess who made the space ship Boeing yep Boeing made the fucking spaceship what is up with this fucking company it's fucking insane so like they fly to space in this fucking janky ass Boeing spaceship which then as soon as they get to the international space station ceases to function for whatever scientific race and I don't understand and they're stuck in space and they happen for fucking four months now and it's been a constant thing with NASA trying to figure out how the fuck do we get them out of the international space station now I've done some research into this because I'm insane and I'm unemployed and I have time on my hands but also like okay so there's something called the is it the wolf agreement the wolf agreement space it's something like that the the wolf amendment there's something called the wolf amendment which says that NASA is never allowed to ask China for any help with anything involving space period I don't know why the fuck this exists but we are not allowed to say if we have astronauts stuck in space and they're gonna explode we cannot say let's put them in the Chinese part of the international space station so they don't explode we're not allowed to so the reality is if that didn't exist we could say China could you help us out and they could just bring these people home but we won't do that so what's happening now is that NASA has hit up SpaceX and said we need help getting these astronauts home they have I believe one week of air left in this Boeing aircraft that they're in after that they're going to have to abandon the aircraft and spend time in the international space station and the aircraft is going to go away so they will be stranded without an aircraft in like a couple of days so they talked to SpaceX and said basically we need you to fly your aircraft out there save these people but the issue which is so fucking stupid and which is why we need government control of all this shit the spacesuits that NASA has and the spacesuits that SpaceX has aren't compatible the two don't work together so like they're having this issue where it's like they need to create compatible spacesuits that will work in both the international space station and in this SpaceX plane or SpaceX ship otherwise they're going to like dye in space basically and now they're saying that they're not even going to be able to get them out of space even if the SpaceX rocket works which is a question even if it works they won't be able to get them out until February of 2025 what the fuck okay so first things first though are these two there's a man and a woman and astronaut either fucking space for sure are they single are they single it doesn't matter i don't think if once you're stuck in space for three months you're fucking whether you're single or not like i do we i know we probably don't have confirmation on any of this but like do we have any like historical confirmation on whether or not anybody ever has had sex in space no but we do have historical confirmation of NASA specifically not doing like in the past would not do missions like this where it was just like a dude and a girl like because they wanted to avoid that specifically it was like they did like all girl missions or like all dude missions or like you know maybe one girl but it was like they like manned missions specifically to avoid that so okay so let's say they're single if they're both single i think the odds i mean there's decent odds that something happens they've been up there for four months let's say they're both married it's still a hundred percent odds that they're fucking okay because this is the thing imagine being the spouse of an astronaut who's stuck in space with another woman i would say i get it well what i i understand it's like they're maybe gonna die out there they're fucking stuck out there they're in the middle of fucking nowhere like if they like are gonna die they're talking to me all the time they love me or whatever if you're kind of fucking somebody who you were stuck in a spaceship with for months if they came back alive i'd be like we can never talk we just never talk about it again that's fine whatever like it's the one kind of cheating where i would be like that's fine if they are single and they let's say they're single and they come back the best case scenario is that they're single and they come back from space and then announce that they're a couple i wouldn't be surprised if that happened even if they weren't single when they went in there's like a trauma bond that's so intense there that nobody else could possibly understand where it's like they're the only two people who are ever stuck in space like that i feel like that might give them a bond that nobody else has like this is their Vietnam this is their this yeah this is their Vietnam exactly well i feel i mean honestly like i'm not i'm not claustrophobic but like to be up in space like that just like stuck on that state you can't exercise or do anything no fresh air it's just like i mean it it just really makes me feel like i've always been right in my feeling of leave space the fuck alone i don't want to go there i don't want to know what's up up there just don't go there leave it alone it doesn't want us i don't want it yeah i've always had the same feeling like space alone like Mars no you want to go to Mars have you seen Mars yeah what the fuck and like have you ever looked into like what it takes just to go to the fucking moon or the international space station it's like the whole fucking spaceship the whole rocket smells like poop because you were shooting in the middle of the fucking spaceship the whole time literally you were on a fucking spaceship where the entire air smells like shit constantly i mean i get it from like a and you come home and your muscles are at your feet and you can't walk yeah i mean i get it from a scientific perspective if you're an astronaut and like some sort of like astrophysicist and this is your there's a lot of science to be done on earth man i don't you know the the like i've always had this feeling as well i've never had any desire even if it was like five dollars to get on a rocket no and go to the moon i'd be like now how much money would someone have to pay you to go to the moon a lot like a million yeah more probably like yeah like i i would do it for like two million i mean yeah i would take a lot but i i feel like the most it's like what's your life worth basically that's right because there's a chance you know there's a decent chance that things are going to get go sideways and like i thought the most affirming thing i've ever heard about space travel and my aversion to it and my disinterest in like going to Mars or whatever it is that you know animates certain people especially billionaires seem to be obsessed with Mars but yeah because like we fucked up this earth maybe we can just go to another plan hey like i don't think they're gonna go it's like they seem to want to ship they can ship the underclass off to Mars to like they said they're not going to go yeah but uh was when but the most affirming thing that i've ever heard about space travel was when William Shatner went up in the Jeff Bezos rocket because he's like oh it's like Captain Kirk is going to space and it was like actually like Bill does this like really like stirring like you know like you know a guy like Shatner he's elderly going up into space and it's like this new frontier and all this stuff and then the rocket came back down and Shatner got off of it and like like either made an a statement immediately or made a statement like a few days after where he was like he was like actually kind of depressed and like sad he's like I just wanted to come back he's like there's nothing up there it was like it was like really like kind of but it was like you know in line with what we are saying yeah we're nothing up there it's space that's it yeah it's just a fucking vacuum of emptiness and there's no other if that listen if there was a habitable planet like earth that it that was the distance even of Mars if there was like earth 2 and it was empty and pristine and the atmosphere was the same we would have already destroyed it i mean yeah but i mean if we were like just now getting to the point where it was possible for human beings to travel there this i could understand and there would be some temptation you know it was people had done it a lot and it was like okay everyone's traveling to earth 2 or whatever and it will but it'll take like a year of your life to get there no absolutely not i mean two years of your life gone how much of your life are you spending on mars too like what are you doing there do you have a house do you have food do you have friends do you have water do you have like any of these things that you need to survive do you have shelter like it would be like a pioneer existence you know in the beginning yeah i don't want to like a fucking pioneer i like my iPhone yeah so i mean but i mean like the thing is is that building up infrastructure if you got the right people over there could happen relatively quickly but um anyway that's not the case we don't have an earth 2 anywhere near us and uh and fuck space fuck space fuck the moon fuck space i'd like to look at it i'll look at it through a fucking telescope i'll look at the pretty pictures that like there's satellites take don't put fucking like gas towards it don't give like no just be done no more space no more space these poor people stuck up there and i guess like it could be a rom-com waiting to happen that's the best case scenario a rom-com where they both die in the end or it could be like yeah i'd be like some sort of tragic romantic movie like that fucking movie where it's like oh my god what's it called someone watching is gonna know where it's um uh robert patinson and somebody else it's like a normal rom-com and then at the very end you see them like talking to her on the phone they've like just made up and it zooms out and he's in the twin towers on september of love and oh my god how the fuck is nowhere it's like a normal rom-com and then it's like and he's in the tower oh god that's like that's savage it was i mean it's such a fucking funny twist to look back on where you're just like what the fuck like i knew what movie this was oh it's uh it's i could look it up it's uh one of our viewers please if you remember the name of the story there's a movie please uh submit it viewer leave it in the comments but uh all right well i i i also think that if you have like american astronauts stuck up in space like why do we have to wait until february to save these people well apparently that's how long it takes to that's all it'll take to like figure out how to get like the suits even though they're not like compatible to work in this certain in the year in the year 2024 we're still fucking with suits it's insane it's like insane that this shit is in standardized like what the fuck why do they're different suits like that makes no fucking sense and like none of it makes any fucking sense none of it makes sense it's fucking psychotic and like we can't like literally we could just have somebody who is at the international space station from china walk over to these people pick them up and drive them home but we're legally not allowed to do that well if the astronauts in the space station are listening which they probably are let's be honest sure they are they must listen to a lot of podcasts up there i bet they actually do right you could probably get like some sort of satellite internet feed or whatever and i wonder how much internet they i feel like if they had internet they maybe be posting but maybe they're not allowed to oh yeah that's true they better have internet what are they doing up there fucking that's what they're doing in zero gravity i mean if you're that bored like you're fucking like if you put two people in solitary confinement for a week they probably be fucking that is but we'll never know i bet we'll never know unless they become a couple after they come down and by the way i know nothing of these people i have no way they could be married i don't know anything about them either it could be a married couple already for all i know for all i know all right everybody we are in september but it's still summertime there's still stuff happening we're still going outside be sure to fuel up for all of your activities with factors no prep no mess meals with options like calorie smart protein plus and keto factors fresh never frozen meals or dietitian approved and 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snapped you need all hands on deck is unbelievable you think your gods give to this hospital you're just another doctor my relationship with Catherine is complicated i'm gonna sue you your lawyers know where to find me you're unbelievable raise anatomy season premiere Thursday 10 9th central on ABC and stream on hulu so what else is happening so let's see well now we're going to do a bunch of stories that are like far less serious than the two astronauts who are dying in space all right we contain multitudes on this show so um the next story is there was a uh article that came out in new york magazine um photograph by david lisha pal um of charlie xx she was on the cover um i mean it was a very it was a very david lisha pal shoot i thought it was really good and the article was like an interview and it there was commentary and whatnot so okay what's the easiest way to explain this in the photos that david lisha pal took one of them it was uh charlie's hand cut off in a um in like an ice bucket like the way that you would if your hand got cut off and you went to an ambulance and on the hand was like taylor swift style friendship bracelets like the ones that they trade at the eris tour okay um and it said charlie xx on it and a lot of swifties and people in general interpreted this as like very insensitive considering that there was like a planned terrorist attack in one of her shows and there was that crazy stabbing of a bunch of children at a taylor swift theme dance party in london also i didn't i heard about that but like that's what happened some nut all stabbed a bunch of kids yeah like children really fucked yeah insane and so charlie coming out with these pictures is like not the most sensitive thing at the same time i do think that they were probably taken like before all this happened and like you know like i'm sure it wasn't like intentional now those kinds of feature stories probably are in the works like months ahead of time yeah like david luschapel like takes a lot of editing first photos and stuff like it takes like a lot of like post stuff first pictures so probably was taken a while ago but in the article they asked taylor swift for comment and so taylor swift and charlie xx have kind of um an unspoken famous feud with one another that we've talked about before i was going to say you explain this to me in a previous episode yeah yeah and so um in brat there are lyrics that are clearly about taylor swift there's a song called like sympathy is a knife where she's like i hope she doesn't come to my boyfriend's shows i hope they break up because taylor was dating somebody who is in the same band as charlie xx's boyfriend okay so like whatever charlie xx doesn't like taylor swift clearly and is constantly doing like little jabs being like fuck you taylor swift or whatever because she's cool and she's too cool for taylor swift um yeah the the lyric is don't want to see her backstage of my boyfriend's show fingers crossed behind my back i hope they break up quick um so this article they asked taylor for comment and because she's a publicity genius instead of allowing the article to say like we reached out to taylor swift but she didn't comment taylor very in a way that is more classy than what i do uh what i would do she said i've been blown away by charlie's melodic sensibility since i first heard stay away in 2011 her writing is surreal and inventive always she just takes a long um or she just takes a song to place as you wouldn't expect it to go and she's been doing it consistently for over a decade i love to see hard work like that payoff really kind of makes charlie look like a huge bitch i think for being so mean about taylor who like let her open or like chose her to open at the ref tour when charlie was not that famous and then charlie came out with like saying like i'm tired of playing to kids like about playing at the ref tour just been like a really bitchy i mean i don't blame her for being tired of playing to kids but if taylor is giving you the opening swap yeah like like if she's she's making your career like at least exactly and normally i'm like well they go low i go lower that's kind of my whole thing but like charlie xx didn't know how to go low in a way that was smart well i think too what this is is it's kind of a flex on taylor's part i don't know anything about the pop music firmament other than i know like beyond i know Beyonce is a mega star i know taylor swift is a mega star that's basically i know you too is like a big rock band for boomers and you know what i'm saying like i know like the big stuff i have no idea how big charlie xx is in the culture bigger in the uk she's just like big in the uk and like did come up from like a smaller music scene called pc music it was like a smaller record label and like had these writers who were very very good basically like create a pop star in charlie xx and she had some really interesting things in the beginning truly like with like great producers great writers and she's kind of gotten very mean and uninteresting since then in my opinion i mean these people get competitive she clearly is jealous of taylor's success and that's where like you're saying it's it's a flex on taylor's part because she's saying i don't care about you enough to hate you i'd like you're you're small you're small i'm big i'll speak in real comment like oh she's very inventive i love her music and even that it's kind of belittling and that like they're coming to taylor for a comment in an article that's about you charlie and like she's making you look like a bitch by just saying bare minimum what you should be saying about any other pop star who's nice to you it's like uh it's a display of pr impressive pr on taylor's left's part and not on charlie's part also just like human decency i mean like you know like this thing quiet taylor saying quiet this whole time not ever saying anything about charlie and then the one time she does it's just a positive thing about her music it's classy i mean what's interesting to me is these people's lives at these award shows especially like are inevitably going to intersect like all the i mean this has been happening since the beginning of celebrity culture but it's like you're going to see these people again you know you're going to run into them and there's all this bad blood and weird jealousy and everybody's dated everybody else in these tiny little circles it's just i guess you just get used to it yeah and taylor's also like just so big that i think she like she just doesn't go to events where somebody who she really hates or who really hates her is going to be there like it just never happens oh really mm-hmm well i mean she she could also probably be insulated she gets vip treatment like even within like the vip yeah but if it's like the grammys or something where she's being filmed and like if like charlie claus is going to be there like taylor's won't show up doesn't taylor every time i turn on the grammys she's in the fucking crowd dancing well there's some you know shows that she like clearly owns like i don't think charlie claus would ever try to go to the grammys or the vma's what's up with carly claus she's not even a musician is she no her and taylor swift like dated though forever and then they were like we're just best friends who like you know kiss a concert and hold hands constantly and like you know go on dates and stuff um they were like best best friends for like eight years and then they like stop being friends as soon as she married uh fucking jared kushner's brother but they were clearly dating and she's like the muse for all these albums it's like very it's kind of sad really she and she dates jared kushner's bro she married jared kushner married him yeah josh kushner another like weird intersecting circle yeah right fucking hey man all right well i i'm you know i don't i'm glad like that taylor isn't making this into an ugly scene i think it's like yeah i think it's smart like there's no need to like roll around in the mud with somebody especially since like she's so connected to this like presidential campaign or whatever like taylor's song and be like fuck charlie xvx then people will be like but brat summer and like kamala and like kamala and like you know whatever like is it oh yeah that could become a story and then that could be like that could somehow taint the kamala campaign yeah like her like obtain her for not endorsing kamala like or whatever the fuck like to me having to live your life under that kind of microscope and to have to make those kinds of like second and third order thought like calculations relative to public relations is a fucking nightmare oh my god i mean it's white killer as a whole fucking team to handle it it's why she's got like the the best fucking scariest publicist in the music industry i mean i guess you know you would have to but uh yeah she's getting it good advice or she has good instincts or some combination of the two shout out to tree pain the best publicist music industry tree pain like tree like the tree from the ground and then pain like t-pain but tree like a tree is that it's not a given name that's uh tressa pain i think is what it is oh tree pain yep she's a she's a great publicist very scary do you know her i guess you just know her because she's taylor's publicist she's like a known entity and like the swiftie like universe because she's always like walking around shows and like doing shit and like people think that she's like a funny character because she never says anything out loud and so you can just kind of project whatever you want on to her oh right what do you project on to her just that she's a she's a really good really scary publicist i could totally imagine like being in a situation where i don't know a company is doing something with taylor swift and you have to deal with tree pain and it's like anything she says goes like okay we need to paint the office pain tree pain side that we need to i i don't know we just got to do it like she would scare the shit out of me wow what is this i don't even i can't picture this one what does tree pain look like is she an imposing figure she's an imposing redhead yeah she's like uh she's like a beautiful redhead who is like a constantly commanding people around and wearing only black only black that's the publicist look all right i didn't know that that is the publicist look if you're like at an award show with like a pop star it's like you wear like just uh a pretty like a you know a nice but plain black dress well you don't want to overshadow your client exactly you want to look good and professional but you don't want to overshadow anybody or seem like you're drawing it any attention to yourself at all right all right well what else is happening let's see excuse me so uh now um oj simpson though he is dead is still in the news it looks like brad you brought this one to my attention oh yeah um oj simpson's ashes are being made into jewelry yeah i mean it uh oj's long-time lawyer and now executor of his estate tells tmz that the juices remains have been transformed into cremation jewelry which was divvied up among his four adult children i want to see what the jewelry looks like sometimes cremation jewelry is like kind of goth and amazing i i'll be honest i'd never heard of cremation jewelry see you don't browse at sea the way that i do but like if you're looking for weird shit on at sea sometimes you'll see a necklace near be like i love that necklace like maybe i could put a Xanax in that and then it's like oh that's for ashes you put Xanax in your necklaces well if i had one that had a compartment i would but you know it's all this cremation jewelry and that's kind of harder i mean i guess it makes some sense like you lose a loved one that get cremated you have some bit of their cremains like put into like a pendant or like a you can get it made into like a fake or like a lab made diamond if you're like really rich you can get ashes like pressed into a lab made diamond i mean i don't know like how real it is or if they actually are using your ashes or whatever the fuck but it's carbon right so yeah i don't know how that all works but yeah i mean that's there's a whole plot point and uh the Kardashians about how um uh Chris wants her ashes made into a diamond but then they're like we can't make it into fucking nine diamonds or however many of us there are it has to be one and then we're going to fight over the diamond and it's uh this is the question for me i don't know i didn't read deeply into this story but like my first thought when i read that headline was that the estate was going to make this cremation jewelry and then try to sell it to make more money i mean that would be uh incredible like albert maryall and manson would buy a piece of uh oj a cremation jewelry that piece of shit so what's this type of process cost malcolm i think oj's executive or whatever says the final total was four thousand two hundred and forty three dollars and six cents that seems like not that much for four kids to get like a nice piece of jewelry which included the cost of cremation the jewelry and death certificates what what is it made of tin as we first reported malcolm is trying to liquidate most if not all of oj's assets to pay off the mountain of debt he left behind including tens of millions still owed to the goldman family so he just left like a shitload of debt i'm not surprised so he never paid off the wait like ron like who he murdered yeah yeah he owed you know he lost that civil trial to the goldman's after he was acquitted in the criminal trial and what happened was uh when the i think shortly before the ruling came down or right after it came down i don't know the exact timeline but i remember in the documentary did you ever see that documentary about oj called uh made in america yeah i did yeah like so great but after he died i rewatched it um just because like he was in the news and i was like oh yeah i want to see that again say again is it a good rewatch it is it's like the multi-party one the oscar and uh oh god i watched all fucking million hours of it well the thing that's so great about it is that it's not only great on the oj murder thing but it's also just like a great like x-ray of american culture and like the racial politics and history of america like that's why the movie is so resonant is that like oj is like this kind of symbol or like example of the you know that it illuminates these deeper themes but when the civil trial came to pass and the ruling came down i want to say shortly before it came down oj had friends of his go into his home and start removing like paintings like warholes like because oj went to the golf course as i recall so that he would have a alibi right and then he had friends of his go in start removing all the valuables to make it look like a robbery no just so that he could claim when the court came to like claim all his shit for the goldman's like i don't know where it is i don't have it and then it was it was stored in all of these storage facilities in california wait so what so he took like after he murdered ron goldman he took his stuff well he was hiding it so that the uh goldman's could not lay claim to it as part of the settlement you know what i'm saying like he owes his own stuff not ron goldman stuff no oj took his own shit like oj had all these like it's what they couldn't be like we're going to take this painting from you or whatever right so he sort of hid his valuables and then who knows what he did with him maybe he needed cash and he sells like a warhol on the black market or he sells it through a third party you know it's a sort of launder it and stuff like that and would they find that out in the civil trial uh no i think it was like i think it was like hard to nail down because oj had this you know it was like i was at the golf course i didn't do it you know what i'm saying he's just sort of like hustled it but i think that uh if i'm the goldman's if i'm the goldman's i'm trying to get every fucking penny oh yeah i'm just gonna do this shit out of that estate yeah just give me i want i want the forks in the knives sold yeah exactly i want china i want to fucking in like i want the the you know antique jewelry from grandma like i want all the fucking shit like oh this just has had a mental value give it to me anyways i don't give a fuck like i would be for everything and my my mom went to um is this wild thing about my mom went to high school with oj's daughter um which means that they were like i believe in high school or maybe their first year of college during the trial oh my god i think senior year of high school during the trial which is like and apparently she was like incredibly nice just like a nice normal girl my mom hung out with her sometimes like really just a nice person and then like the trial happened and her mom would drop her off to school every day and it would just be like no one talked about it well you got to say this you don't hear much from those kids they've lived quite a while i would and i feel horrible for them mm-hmm it's so sad and i don't know i know that the the browns like nicole's family they had to have some custody claim right oj got primary custody but they got some visitation or something right oj got primary custody he's their father that's fucking insane that's what i mean it's like so sad your dad is like a straight-up murderer murdered your mother he raises you but like probably not the most i mean i don't know he isn't like i i have to imagine like yeah the the compartmentalization that he would have to pull off as like the murderer of the his own children's mother and then he's raising them but so far you know these i haven't heard stories of these kids being on drugs or like the Kardashians remained um their at least chris did remained close with the goldman family also i wonder if there was some like money that she helped them with or something when they like got rich because like you know chris was like best friends with nicole um over the the goldman's is that no well the coal was was uh killed with ron goldman right yeah he was friends with the browns rather chris was really good friend then still is like friendly with them like they're like family friends because she was like i mean you you saw probably in the oj documentary oh it was this crazy thing where like you know her ex-husband raw Kardashian was defending oj oj had been like their friend for a long time and on the nicole side of the court was chris because she was best friends with nicole and so it was like this wild thing and in fact like you talking about like them hiding oj's belongings this wasn't about hiding its belongings but like there was famously a bag that was missing in the oj trial you see it you see it in the in the documentary you see robert kardashian walking away with it exactly and there was a moment in the kardashian show on hulu which sucks and i don't recommend it but there was a moment where kim kardashian says you know i remember being a little kid and opening the closet and seeing that bag and being like oh there's oj's bag and not realizing you know what the deal was why dude if i had if i was charged with disappearing that bag i would have like rented a boat and taken it out into the pacific ocean that's your fucking closet dude and like fucking teenage kim kardashian just there it is and she's like years later it's like oh yeah no my dad fucking hid evidence from the federal government for sure all right i mean yeah what like that's a strange bedfellow i get that he's your friend but like once it becomes clear that your friend like savagely murdered two people you yeah that's when kardashian was a piece of shit for fucking continuing that yeah and like johnny kokran really fucking destroyed an incredible uh career like just incredible career incredible fucking lawyer and then oh jay i mean he's a defense attorney he got hired he did his job great he did his job really well but like fuck dude did you really have to do that yeah well and allen dersha witz wasn't on that team too i mean fucking the gersh it's like every fucking where you go in history where there's some fucked up thing happening some fucking pedophiles a murderer getting off it's like the dersh is always just somewhere in there mira i remember where i was when the verdict got read i was in college you were three years old uh when was the verdict read like what year 1995 wow yeah i was three yeah i was like stoned and i was abroad i was studying abroad in australia and i remember it like it was you know that day it was like oh my god he got acquitted so fucked up and i also remember very very i mean it's funny that i do remember because i really was like taking boggits and watching uh a basketball like an nba playoff game it was the next in the houston rockets and it was summer it was june when oh jay took off in that bronco and they cut away from the game and they were like it was like picture in a picture right and that like it was wild and we were just like like like basketball game and then like bronco and like a like a picture in the corner it became this i mean it's like you see it in the documentary it's like it was this huge cultural moment and in a lot of ways it's like really strange to think about but in a lot of ways like the reality tv culture that we sort of have lived in ever since was kind of it began with that moment and then the substance it literally did because it went from that to ryan seacrest being friends with chris jennor and understanding that that family and their connection to oh jay could create a good reality television show which created the template for every reality television show that exists now well and it's like the trial too i feel like the whole trial and the way that like everybody's eyes were glued they were clearly like television executives i mean yeah absolutely like the way that like that televised trial the fucking chase in the bronco like led to keeping up with the kardashians in this wild way like it is like the genesis of reality tv and more way than ways than one that feels like so i don't know like it was just like a real confluence of things or something that like led to this weird moment that now we have real housewives yeah that's great it's crazy to think about it's the reason i think that story just resonated so deeply is that it's like it's got real depth to it and it like it speaks to a lot of different like issues in our society i don't know but if you haven't seen oj made in america the documentary multi-part you have to watch it it's like mandatory viewing i think it's such a it's such like a beautifully done documentary and i want to say it's like what eight hours long or something but you need content like i feel like people who aren't from los angeles and i'm from here and i didn't even fully realize but like maybe don't understand the effect of like the la riots and police racism being like at the forefront because of the la riots right had on this particular case and how like much that setback like issues of police violence like that that like oj just got off even though he clearly was like did the murder like it just like very much confused the issue of like racism police violence like whether you know he's a black man who is being wrongly persecuted or murder or like it really was like a weird cultural moment yeah like the ronnie kang thing in nineteen ninety two i think it was yeah and then oj ninety four ninety five it's all tied together and then there was also like the watts riots you know when oj was at usc it was in college that's part of the documentary too so like it there's a historical lens that you can look at all of this through this by the way mirror this is like we're getting sort of deep and like academic in our show in ways that i think our listeners might be surprised by since we're usually very lowbrow lowbrow but i also love a cultural moments that involve murder and crime not that i like it happening but i like learning about it if you could have a piece of oj cremation jewelry like you've made to order what would you want oh like what piece of jewelry what i want yeah i mean like it would be so cursed to wear that like i think like my whole life would get cursed if i wore that i mean right it would be like so but like like i can't tell like what i want people to not know that it's oj or what i want it to be obvious that it's oj i mean i think it could be either way i i'm thinking like subtle it would just be like a piece of jewelry and like you would explain to people like this is made from the uh from the juice i'm gonna go the other way i'm gonna say it should be like like this big and it should be like a diamond studded white bronco you know like a big like three-dimensional diamond studded white bronco with uh with the blood on the car handle uh door that he left and maybe a glove with like made out of like black diamonds or something like that i don't know it would have to be something like a ring i don't wear jewelry i don't even wear a watch i don't wear anything i mean i'm just going off like the assumption that no matter what it is i would never wear it so it might as well be the most insane possible thing i think the bronco i mean the bronco would be fucking awesome but i think it would have to be i don't know i don't wear a necklace i would have to be some sort of ring i don't even wear rings i wear my wedding ring that's it it could be like um like a pinky ring like uh like a net ring that just said ojay on it that's right it would just be uh just would be like a big like pinky ring that's an ojay yeah big-ass pinky ring just a conversation it's a conversation starter you'd always have something to say ojay well let me tell you can i just say as a sidebar that like men who wear pinky rings like the the side of a pinky ring kind of creeps me out uh it depends on the dude if he's got rings on like every finger and that's like his look fine okay but then i'm talking about like the dude who just has the pinky ring and then uh the other thing that really really bothers me is when men have longer fingernails oh oh it's the most i like it's so it's like that and spit are two of the most disgusting things in the world i hate it people spitting on the street can't stand it men with long fingernails disgusting disgusting like just like uh like saying it gives me the it because like not even enough like i can't run away i can't run away fast enough yeah it's like i like you should be in jail like i'm calling the police on you get away from me like no like hide your fucking nails dude it's like just really based like i understand that i have these nails these are fake i keep them very clean i do them myself they're very i i am very hygienic about this okay and they're fucking fake my nails are short under this real nails this long it seems kind of gross yeah i totally agree and like as a parent it's like something i obsess about is because sometimes you forget your kids like you look down at your kids your kids will have these like dragon nails not my kids no i will not allow that shit i'm like you are going to be well groomed you are not gonna be scotting going to school with like these dirty fucking fingernails i mean a lot of people might not know this about brad but he does get pedicures not maybe not every week but on a semi-regular basis and i think brad has convinced me over the years i think this is something that men should do i have to get yourself a pedicure fix yourself up fix your get a manicure too fucking fix your shit it doesn't make any sense to wash your hair get your haircut wash your hands wash your face take showers but not deal with your feet yeah what the fuck it's like absolutely right and i think that there is this like there's like this uh what's the word for it monopoly that women seem to have on taking care of your feet on taking care like women can do it but if men do it it's somehow yay or feminized it's like no right it's like you need to have like a three in one body wash that's like bullet flavored or something and that's it as a man and like have you ever seen like a guy walking around in like open toed sandals and his feet are disgusting oh it's like men wearing open toed sandals is questionable to begin with but it's like okay you're at the beach or whatever fix your shit don't like make everyone look at your gross shit like it's fucking weird it's fucked up like don't fucking do it and by the way a pedicure a pedicure costs like 25 bucks yeah a pedicure for a dude like where you're not getting polished it's like really cheap it's not prohibitively expensive and you don't have to do it but like once a quarter yeah just do it like a couple times a year do it like every couple months or whatever like just go have like a bonding moment with a girl in your life go get pedicures together whatever Brad and I have gotten pedicures together many times and other the other thing you can do is go by yourself because it is relaxing as fuck you just read a magazine or you know scroll on your phone it takes about half an hour and it's and you sit in this comfy chair and it's like and that's the thing about it is that like before I did it before I did it I was like why are women doing this and then I was like oh this is why it's nice it's nice they do all kinds of oils and stuff your feet are in nice warm water and it's like I feel like do like they don't like they feel like they'll go into like a salon everyone's gonna be like haha like well you want me but it's like if you just go in there as a dude and say I want a pedicure they just go okay he goes to town and like no one even talks to you if you don't want them to they just give you a pedicure yeah there's no gender rules in there you can just go in you can be a customer right no one's gonna treat you like a freak it's like every time I go get my nails done there's some dude getting a pedicure it's really really normal and like just like I've had this conversation before like in the shower when you're showering do you know how many people just don't like wash their feet that's what I'm saying soap just goes down my body goes down my legs and wash my feet no the fuck it does it wash your feet with soap pick up your feet with your hands wash them with soap be normal don't just like oh walk it around in water whenever your feet are disgusting dude I could not agree more I could not agree more take care it's uncomfortable like feet should never smell that feet should never look disgusting like I don't like I'm not a foot person I'm not foot fetishist but just like don't make your feet be an issue for me yeah I don't want to have to deal with your feet dude mare this is maybe the most we've ever agreed on anything I mean truly like I think we are at like for the maybe first time like 110 every like fix your feet make your feet not gross this is our unifying issue it's just like the interview we're gonna run for president on this platform and fix your fucking feet everybody everybody I don't care what I don't care who you are like just like women generally know but if your feet are fucked up as a woman like fucking fix your feet too everyone even days fucking you know non-binary people fix your fucking feet like when your feet are like I sometimes see these people whose feet are dirty and they get like screw the ass heels and like take care of it and by the way you can get like I don't even know what it's called but I you know you get these things and you keep in the shower where you can like a pumice stone yeah pumice stone you scrub your feet with it look let me tell you everybody here's what you do yeah okay wash your feet in the shower get yourself a pumice stone when you get out of the shower sit down in your nice towel fucking scrub your feet off rinse them you have nice feet if you want to go crazy get yourself some cream that has urea in it put it on over and it has what in it urea u-r-e-a it sounds like urinary it does yeah but it's it has something to do it apparently it sounds disgusting but it makes your feet soft but you just wash them in the fucking shower moisturize like just like basic shit like here's what you need to do just hygiene wise wash your feet moisturize your face wear sunscreen clip your nails done yeah that's it brush your teeth brush yeah brush your teeth ideally floss but you know that that's tough sometimes I always floss I've always been a flosser I think flossing is important it is really important I've gone to the same dentist as I was like a baby like they like have baby pictures of me in the hallway and stuff and I have like a serious fear of disappointing dr koo and so I floss just because I have guilt yeah you don't want to get a cavity that's like that's like the worst feeling you feel like I don't want to get a cavity but mostly I don't want dr koo to be like I can tell you haven't been flossing me or like it's worse than disappointing my dad let me tell you something I floss religiously always have and I have been told multiple times that I need to floss and I'm like they're like your gums are bleeding I'm like motherfucker I floss every day there's no reason why I mean I don't know why that's happening I mean you've got sensitive gums like do you get a lot of cavities no like how many of you had I don't know like two or three in my life okay yeah same it's I've like some teeth just don't get cavities as much like no my like I like have known people who like are not good with their oral hygiene and still don't get cavities and my mom is really good and gets them constantly I feel like I'm splitting a must be like if you do it every day like I think too like sometimes like you know you go to the dentist and they're like scraping your shit with those tools like it's gonna start bleeding like it's not because you don't floss it's because they're scraping your gums with these you know yeah that's especially why one reason why I love my dentist so much is that because my family has been going there for so long he will personally do our teeth cleaning instead of having like the hygienist do it and she's like not as good as he is so special treatment for the you know treatment for Mira's family yeah but also he'll guilt me really bad if I don't you know fix my teeth so it's uh so given a take you got to only get one set man take care of your teeth that's what Dr. Ku says hey it's Kaylee Cuoco for Priceline ready to go to your happy place for a happy price well why didn't you say so just download the Priceline app right now and save up to 60 percent on hotels so whether it's cousin Kevin's kazoo concert in Kansas City go Kevin or Becky's bachelorette bash and Bermuda you never have to miss a trip ever again so download the Priceline app today your savings are waiting go to your happy place for a happy price got your happy price price line so uh I think it's time for Brad learns uh-huh Brad learns used please and uh I've got to learn about something that I have been hearing and seeing in the culture repeatedly without any sense of its origin story and I'm hoping that you can uh you know you can teach me about this it is the mindful cutesy demure meme trend that I think it's permeating from TikTok I don't know where it comes from but it was so there yeah so there is a TikToker whose name is Jules Lebron J-O-O-L-S um and she basically did a TikTok um and I'm gonna play it for you but it's about how who the fuck is Jules Lebron just a TikToker a TikToker I've known she was a TikToker who like a rando it's like a rando yeah like I think maybe she was like vaguely popular in TikTok like I had no idea who she was so she's doing a TikTok about how you should do your makeup for job interviews and for working um and so I'm gonna play that right now very mindful of what now I'm at work see how I look for work right how I did my makeup for work very demure very mindful I don't come to work with a green cut crease oh look like a clown when I go to work I don't do too much I'm very mindful while I'm at work see how I look very presentable the way I came to the interview is the way I go to the job a lot of you girls go to the interview looking like March Simpson and go to the job looking like Patty and Selma not demure I'm very modest I'm very mindful you see my shirt only a little cheat she out not my chocho be mindful of why they hired you here's your reality check diva what's the name you'd like me to make it out too be hard so that TikTok went ultra viral and now everybody is basically doing anything and saying very mindful very demure very cutesy a lot of you bitches are going to the interview looking like March and going to the job looking like Patty and Selma who's Patty and Selma why do I not know this the Simpsons Patty and Selma I never watched the Simpsons oh bitch you never watched the Simpsons never watched Seinfeld I don't I didn't watch friends I don't watch anything I don't know what I find older friends with the Simpsons I mean I've seen episodes but I don't I'm not one of these people who can like quote well so you since you are completely detached from reality and have been living under a rock Patrick star style for your entire life I guess yeah then his Homer Simpsons wife in the Simpsons yes I know her sisters are Patty and Selma and they're like chain smoking kind of like their hair like you know Marge's hair is up like this their hair is like down like a mess and they're like I'm Patty and Selma we've been smoking for 25 years or whatever and they're like all over the place so got it yeah you show up to the interview looking like Marsim's then you show up to the job looking like Patty and Selma not very mindful not very demure not very demure like what's so fascinating to me is how this shit goes from some randos TikTok to being like everywhere in a span of a week it's like once you hear her saying it like that once you hear her saying like do you see how I do my makeup very cutesy very mindful very demure you won't be able to stop saying yeah when Natasha and I talk to each other now like I'll be like getting a glass of like the other day I was at her house getting a glass of water I spilled a bunch of water on the floor and I was like I spilled water all over your floor very mindful very demure by the way Natasha is Mira's best friend your be a yes that's yeah no I'm just referring to her like she's someone you all know but she's just my best friend yeah I mean it's fascinating it's fascinating how these things become cultural currency and become sort of like embedded into everybody's brains like if you'll find yourself saying it if it reaches me and I'm asking you about it then it's big then it's big and it's like I don't the thing too is like I've never become an earworm nothing I've ever said has made people mean either yeah but I don't think you can game it I think it happens by accident this is like I've had so many different jobs where they're like I need you to make something go viral I'm like that's great I've gone viral a bunch of times I don't know how the fuck I did it I don't know what the fuck the like formula is because the fucking isn't one there isn't something that's funny you post something it's an earworm you post something that resonates with people and then it goes viral you can't just be like ah here's a formula this is how I'm gonna go viral she didn't expect to go viral with that shit like that was a weird fucking TikTok mission in her car it's like it's like it's like the new hawk to uh like you know like that's the it's the same sort of thing though right it's like how are we all talking about this and how it like what will be interesting is to see if uh the mindful demure person can then like spend some sort of like lucrative business apparently just off of the money that she's made from that TikTok getting so many views she has been able to pay for her um for her gender affirmation surgery wow so I mean you know very mindful very demure very demure i'm very happy for this person very qc very demure very mindful no cut crease so you can see he's in a little bit of cha-cha up and none of her tutu what does this person look like i can't picture um this person looks like hold on let's see like that oh okay oh yeah very demure very mindful wow and you can see she is dressed very demure very mindful very mindful you know no contouring no cut crease did not look in like patty and so much mindful is a funny word to use in the context of like personal appearance you know like in like beauty like beauty and like that kind of stuff it's funny also just like the way that she was describing makeup terms was so funny because it's like if you're doing makeup you know there's like cont you know what contouring is i mean i can kind of infer it's like you do your your base which is just the color of your skin and then you'll get like a darker like kind of like um uh like a bronzer kind of and you'll do it like here like on your cheekbones here and then like under here like that to kind of like and like here to make your face sort of look more flattered or whatever but it's the kind of thing that like everybody does when they're doing their makeup like not you know not always in a crazy way but like a little bit it just like is part of doing your makeup and so for her to be like see very demure very mindful no contouring no cut crease when she clearly has both on is like very very funny and what is uh there's another term i've been hearing quotes is it mewing mewling mewing i know what mewing is there's actually a really good documentary on Netflix if you're curious about dr john mew who invented this except he didn't invent it because it is face yoga which has existed for women since like the nineteen fucking fifties um mewing is a combination of things i think i'm probably going to explain it poorly it's a very like jordan peterson right winger like kind of like looks maxing fucking bullshit that people do it's it's so like john dr john mew came up with orthodonture that is like very much he was like kicked out of like the the board of orthodonture or whatever because he's using devices that are just unacceptable where it's like there is like a stick in the kid's mouth so that like if they have there if they move their jaw in the wrong way like it pokes them so instead of it being like braces that actually move your jaw it's like punishing the child and forcing them to move their jaw in a different way essentially jesus which is where this idea of mewing comes from and part of his theory is these devices where there's like tragic insane stories kids where it's like their parents were desperate they got terrible issues with their jaw and their teeth and then they get so deep into this like uh treatment with dr john mew that like they can't get out of it and they're even though if they've gotten to the point where like their child has the stick in their mouth and they're suffering it's like their teeth so fucked up that they like have to continue and it also came up with this idea of mewing no just something that people do which is again i need to emphasize like these men are constantly coming up with just new names for things that women have been doing since like the fucking fifties as beauty routines it's face yoga so like they'll do shit like for example let's see if i can do it here one of the main ones is they'll say okay here's your jaw like this right uh huh looks like that and then if you know it like goes up like that all right oh yeah yeah what are you doing you're just putting your tongue on the roof of your mouth and so these people i need to do that shit i'm getting old my neck is all fucked up and so this is like a tactic that like famous people use to get good pictures if you're on the red carpet like most women will be doing this with their tongue so that their jaw looks better you just put your tongue on the roof of your mouth yes like putting your tongue on like the back of the roof of your mouth basically if you look yourself in the mirror you'll be able to kind of like see it and so these dudes are convinced that they do this repeatedly that they'll like gain some kind of muscle which will allow their jaw to be permanently just like just chiseled and defined but then we'll do like even weirder shit will where it'll be like they'll go like and they'll like do that for like fucking like two hours or whatever and they'll chew gum constantly and they'll do like they call it like mewing i think because there's one where you go like like literally like it's like just the dumbest shit ever well i because i feel like in instagram in my algo for whatever reason maybe it's because it knows my age but they uh they want me to do face yoga the ads that i get served are like i've got to be doing face yoga i can't believe you're not doing face yoga so you're doing what you're doing because you're a dude and face yoga is gay i mean i don't know but it's like my question is this like does that shit work no it doesn't you're just gonna age the way that your body's programmed to age i mean yes eat right exercise wear sunscreen moisturize wash your face like do all the basic stuff the only truly magic thing that you can do to age less is wear sunscreen that's it sunscreen hat that is how you don't wrinkle that is how you don't age plastic surgery that's it that's it like i'm youwing all this shit it's like stay in shape wear sunscreen if you're rich get all kinds of plastic surgery and make your face look however the fuck you want but like it's it's i mean there it's just like preying on young men who were like i'm not good looking enough when in reality the issue is that like they don't think that like women are people or whatever they're like if i'm you enough women will want to fuck me and like they won't so i should not you you're you're not advising me to me in my middle age no no i'm not i mean you you can look up like research on it uh and it will tell you that it doesn't do anything at all i also see uh what do i say i see a lot of people with a spoon in their mouth like trying to like move the spoon like it's like it's like you're like youwing i'm sure that's like one of the meowing things that i am not aware of like yeah and mainly they recommend you chew gum non-stop just constantly chewing gum just keep your jaw strong i guess so to like get your jaw more defined or something but like it just doesn't it just doesn't work your face is a certain shape if you lose weight your face will look different if you gain weight your face will look different but like you can't really just like exercise muscles in your because like what they're wanting for a chisel jaw is to like lose fat in your face that's what you have to do so that the bone is more visible and so like just fucking exercising your jaw is not gonna do that you can like spot loose weight you can't just be like okay i'm gonna extradize my arm like this and lose weight in my arm you know i was getting uh on instagram i was getting an ad for a while where it's like you put like it looks like it almost looks like a ball gag have you seen this thing but these guys like shoot vices yeah it's like a device that you put in your mouth and you're supposed to like chew on it and like joe rogan of course is into it so i mean of course of course and it's like joe rogan's face like any different than it did several years ago like no but i mean he's he's on like hg h and shit right he's taking steroids oh yeah i'm sure yeah he looks but it's like that fucking like mewing shit that didn't make his jaw look any better like i mean it is what i think it is you just you either have like it's nice like beautiful jawline or you don't right yeah or you fucking get injections or plastic surgery to give yourself a nice jawline that's literally it it's wild to me like have you heard this term looks maxing no it's what it sounds like where it's like dudes are like okay i'm gonna be like mewing and i'm gonna shave and i'm gonna do all these things to like looks max to like make myself like look as like hot as possible and like i hear that and i'm like that's what that's what women do every day constantly i'm looks maxing every day of my life trying to look as good as like can i'm putting on makeup and putting on nice clothes and these dudes are like wow what about like making your appearance nice like that's looks maxing i mean look the term i get that the term is sort of like absurd considering what women have to go through but like i do think that this trend among men trying to biohack and perfect their looks biohack is a real thing and it's what it's making me think of it's a story we didn't cover but it's this guy the ceo of telegram who just got arrested in france what's his name like pavol pet petal or something like that yeah but uh these you know i wasn't even familiar with him until this story broke and i don't know all the details but like i did see uh these pictures of him like what is it with all of these tech bro ceos and like jeff bees they're all trying to get ripped mark zuckerberg like this guy the ceo of telegram is like chiseled and then they showed the before and after pictures of him it's just like elan musk he used to be like this guy with a receding hair like a total dweeb oh and he got like the fucking implants and just oh i mean his hair now looks like he lay it like his hair looks like brad pet's hair except it's dark and he's uh he's utterly ripped and he's like dipping himself into an ice bath they're all into like punishing themselves in these ice baths so fucking insane it's like i do they have like some kind of like catholic guilt thing going on or like okay i've like fucked up over so many people that now i have to like punish myself constantly with a fucking ice bath like i don't understand it i think like i listen i think there actually might be some scientific uh evidence that like cold plunging sure cold exposure can be good for your immune systems i don't think it's totally baseless but like i think these public displays of asceticism and discipline are meant as a show of dominance it's like a display of like dominance and male dominance and competitive behavior and like i'm better than you and i've figured it out every girl i've ever met doesn't have more of a tolerance for pain and discomfort than these men like every girl i've ever met it like men have no tolerance for pain or discomfort at all they're fucking babies every they're always babies like i'll bet he goes into fucking cold plunge every day and he's like ah ah ah ah like every single time screaming at the top of his lungs where i don't know his not on his instagram video and his instagram video he's serene he's just like yeah i'm sure that's after he did all of his screaming like i know girls who go into that shit like is a regular pass and just don't even fucking facial expression doesn't even change like these dudes it's like they're getting i think what's happening with them honestly is that like they have been so successful their whole life they've been able to kind of like invent things pay for things do all these things to avoid any of the issues that a normal person has to deal with they don't have to deal with like rent they don't have to deal with like you know clothes or like you know looking a certain way cutting their hair all this shit it's dealt with now they're aging now they're getting older now they're saying well i have wrinkles on my face i'm getting fatter i'm more tired and balding why am i not able to pay to fix this like what like i can pay to fix everything in my life why can't i pay to not age and so they try to pay to not age they're like all right let's pay to make sure that i have my hair back let's pay a trainer to make sure that i get super buff let's pay whatever the fuck to make sure that you know i'm on a fucking you know parasailing boat and get pictures of me doing it you know like all of this shit let's take olympic let's like you know get fucking like all of this stuff that is trying so so hard to fight back against aging it's like oh i'm Jeff Bezos let's put on a cowboy hat i'm a young man again like it's because like i can't pay to be young so i'm gonna pretend to be young like and it's pathetic they're terrified of dying they're terrified that like they're gonna die and they're gonna be seen as either nothing someone that people forget about or as somebody who people hate which is how they're gonna be seen when they die no matter what they do i think they're also just like this is just a minor inconvenience i should be able to buy my way out of this like you know it's like it's just unthinkable to them that like any anything that like plagues and average mortal would plague them you know like what like i can buy my way out of literally anything and like now you're telling me that i'm aging like a fucking homeless person like what the fuck like no well what's what's fascinating to me though it's like i mean in terms of like its impacts on the wider culture is that among a certain set of men this kind of behavior like this constant biohacking this constant attention to appearance these constant how many supplements do you take do you have a barrel sauna do you have an ice bath do you what is a barrel sauna it's like a home sauna that looks like a barrel you know but like you have to do the hot exposure and then the cold exposure and then you have to put your skin to do hot and cold exposure like that like it's really not but i feel like this stuff is permeating and because these guys have a lot of wealth like financial wealth and it seems to be like a mirroring behavior like jeff bezos is doing it so then that's ceo of telegram has to do it and so then you know blah blah blah it's what happens among billionaires where it's like oh one has that i have to have it like oh like you know musk is doing a space thing meet bezos i have to do a space thing now yeah like mr brins like i'm training for mma it's like exactly you guys all have i think these guys all have like issues with masculinity oh no really you think i mean i don't know i i just it's like i didn't realize it was this pronounced like dude you're like beating on each other and doing steroids and fucking looking like a marvel comics villain like it's bad to the point where like it actually like it's a dick measuring contest but it actually doesn't matter how big their dicks are like even if fucking jeff bezos is like i have a fucking eight inch hog that is just like as good as any porn star in the world he is still gonna feel not like a man and he's always gonna feel like he's not a man because there's always gonna be something that's happening to him that he cannot buy his way out of he can't he's not gonna be able to get you know a hot enough young wife well he will but like he's not gonna be able to have a good head of hair he's not gonna be able to you know be cool at a concert he's not gonna be like it's just like all it can't be cool anywhere he's not cool yeah that's another thing that they can't buy they can't buy their way out of aging and they can't buy their way into being cool and this is the two things that they want desperately because it's the things they can't have that's right that's right and they all have the yachts and they all want to go to space and they all yeah they all want to have fun with celebrities they all want to be friends with you know different celebrities who are going to get them to do cool things and those celebrities will drop them in a second because billionaires aren't fun like it's it's and like what if it unless that billionaires like gonna provide the celebrity with money the celebrity's gonna get bored after a while yeah it's like I'll come hang out on your yacht with my girlfriend for like a weekend but like that's it just so I can say that I did it and then I'm gonna be like wow this this sucks like your cocaine was great but like that's it you know you can't I cannot imagine anything I'd rather do less than hang out on Jeff Bezos's yacht like to be stuck on that fucking boat with him I gotta be like I have such a dark fascination with wealthy people people who are like that rich and that pathetic I would love maybe not on a boat because I fucking hate boats and I want to be on some kind of vessel in the middle of the ocean with the guy yeah me neither me neither if I could be in a room with Jeff Bezos for six hours I'd be like yes I absolutely want to do that I want to have a long conversation with Jeff Bezos I bet I bet honestly I bet if you just met him and hung out with him in an intimate way in an intimate setting where it wasn't like I would like him I'm saying it's possible I'm saying that it's not because I've got preconceived notions about him that like no amount of kindness could ever I can never get over him it's like if I met like someone who I knew owned his slave and they were so nice to me and just so hospitable and so kind I'd be like yeah but I know in my mind that you own a slave so yeah I mean it's like yeah I mean there's like deal breakers like the way he's run his business people yeah the way he's run his business like there's so many horror stories out of it like Amazon warehouses and stuff it's pretty brutal but I mean I would just want to talk to him about himself about his own feelings on a day to day basis what does he do at night what does he do in the morning how does he feel about his life in general how do you fucking works out and takes like 20 supplements is what he does but if you talk to him for like he'll be like oh well I work on the morning blah blah blah fight three hours with him it would be like we would be talking about his childhood I think I could make him cry if I had three hours with him you do I do I feel pretty confident we should get him on the show he should come on here and talk to us I mean if you have to use those things that I can't make him cry I would like to place about with him that I can I just like what I always want to do and I guess it's probably not this simple you know because it's like I'm I'm nowhere near a billionaire right so it's like what do I know but like what I always want to say to these people it's like look you did great you know you built this company you deserve some credit for it like you build it from nothing but like if you want to be cool and you want to be beloved and you really want to have like cultural and social currency watch what would happen if you devoted your life and you're fortunate to serving people in need even the arts even if it wasn't people in need let's say that you were a billionaire and you regularly funded independent artist's ability to make an album outside of a record label somebody who's really great let's say travel row and want to get off of her record label and let's say some billionaire was like here's a million dollars no strings attached to make an album that billionaire would be beloved I mean there's I mean there's some million ways you could do it but like I'm just like so fat I mean there are very few like Jeff Bezos his ex-wife is like one of the only ones I can think of who truly is like yeah I'm gonna empty the vault yeah I'm getting rid of it I'm giving it away and she's beloved yeah even I'm like all right you're all right like you know you're married to Jeff Bezos for so long that I question your whole thing but actually that's pretty dope like yeah and uh and she that doesn't mean she's not wealthy like it's not like she's gonna go to the poor house she's gonna still be rich as fuck but she's giving away if your money is a billionaire and still have enough money for you your grandchildren and their children and more and more it's like your whole fucking family for generations will be wealthy and you could give away so much of that money dude if you have one billion dollars do you know much money one billion dollars is like if I started counting from the moment I was born I would be at about a billion now that's how much they're in the dollar like it takes like I think nearly 30 years to count to a billion oh I mean yeah I mean it's like it's it's just it's an astronomical like one billion dollars some of these guys I don't even know where they're at but they're like 50 60 70 billion dollars like it's psychotic it's like yeah it's too much for any person to have it's definitely more than any one person could possibly deserve or earn after a certain point it's hurting they're hoarding money not to have money to be able to do things with but just to have a number because if you're around a billionaire who you know it's three billion dollars versus 50 the 50 billionaires you know looks a lot cooler and then you need 50 billion it's just a fucking number you know the guy who probably handled it the best is uh the CEO of Patagonia Yvonne Schonard what did he do he made he gave his company to his employees see that's what you're supposed to fucking do make it a worker co-op and he said too like his public statement on it was something to be effective like I don't want to be a fucking billionaire dude yeah like he's like no thanks like that's not a title I want uh associated with me and no I want to sleep at night yeah I don't want to go to hell yeah and he's still you know he's still like got a place in Jackson yeah all right well Jeff Bezos oh hey baby dog yeah look at that dog that's such a strange animal yeah I really is a Pokemon all right well I'm glad I learned what mindful cutesy and demure means I'm glad we have untangled the intricacies of the billionaire conundrum and we have officially invited Jeff Bezos to appear on this program that's right that's right Jeff Bezos if you think I can't make you cry that shows I think I think we could be friends I this is the thing about it I think if you get to know anybody on a human level unless it's like a total fucking psychopath I mean I'm not talking about like Jeffrey Dahmer or something but like Jeff Bezos is like almost Jeffrey Dahmer level psychopath like true like he is never like done it with his hands but Charles Manson never murdered anyone with his hands either so yeah I don't know man the world's complicated and I just want I just want everybody to be happy Mira I guess it's not possible I don't really want billionaires to be happy though yeah I want them to be I think they would find happiness in devoting themselves to service because of all of this largesse that the if they got if they stop being a billionaire then I would love for them to find happiness they would find it I think I think like that's the thing like you get so isolated and everybody wants something from you and it's like yeah everybody's fucking struggling except for you yeah but it's like you became that way because they are isolated people who are just that to begin way you don't become a billionaire if you're a good person all right well on that note we will leave our audience with bated breath awaiting the next episode of Brett and Mira for the culture thank you for listening Mira it's great to talk with you baby dog it's good to see you baby dog also says goodbye [Music] [Music] How did American politics and our economy become so corrupt hi I'm David Sarota an investigative journalist at the lever former Bernie Sanders speechwriter and Oscar nominated writer on the film don't look up join me on my new podcast master plan where we expose the secret scheme hatched in the 1970s that 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