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If you'd like to ring up the show, Adam, I was at Bears practice yesterday. - Oh, nice. - Let me just tell you something. - Yeah. - First of all, it's the last practice before a league-mandated shutdown for the weekend. Like, you can't work out this weekend. Guys all get the weekend off. Like, almost every guy was out there. I saw standing on the sideline. I think it was Montez Sweatt, and there was one other player. There's Kevin Beyer. There's all these guys out there flying around. And in talking with a couple of players that I'm doing some stuff with this season, and in talking with both of these guys, they said the vibe in here is unlike anything they've ever seen around the Chicago Bears. They said, first of all, they love playing for this coach. They love playing for this coach. And the vibe in there and the, what's the right way to put this, the optimism they're feeling for where they can go. I'm not telling you they're gonna beat the Chiefs and win the Super Bowl, but they feel like the Chicago Bears are back. They're, they've been out in the wilderness for a long time, and that it is a totally different way to do business. Do you feel that? - Yeah, I do, but I also think that, you know, not to be Debbie Downer, but everything's great when you haven't stepped on the field yet. - True. - Everything's great when you haven't lost a game yet. Like, I remember last year, we were talking about a team that was supposed to take the next step, and everybody was super hyped going into that Green Bay game and was like, all right, I'm just telling you, listen, most of the people, like 97% of the people, were like, all right, this is different. It's no more Aaron Rodgers, Jordan loves in there. - At our station, some of who played in the NFL, 10 wins two years ago. - Exactly, that's my point, is that vibes are great when you haven't, like you don't think vibes are high, when they, I know it's only five in the morning there, but in a couple hours when their cap and Jhood go on in San Francisco, that vibes aren't gonna be at all time high because Brandon and I, you've got his deal done, and he's sticking around. - They were in the Super Bowl. - I understand that vibes are great before you step on the field. - Okay, but go back to 2019. - Mm-hmm. - And coming off the 2018 season. - Oh yeah. - And everyone's like, - It's T's going to the Super Bowl. - Mitch was in the Pro Bowl as an alternate, I get it. They're like, he's gonna take the next step. - Yeah. - Here we go. - And they were horrible. But what was the vibe coming out of camp? I don't remember. Negi said Mitch had to go from offense 101 to 202. I think he called it the next level of classes, and it hasn't gone well so far, but we're working on it in the media. I remember Dan Wederer coming on the station going, he looks terrible. He does not look good. That vibe there was totally different. - Of course. - The vibe we're getting now, because they've brought in intelligent veterans like a Keenan Allen, a Kevin Beyer guy, Mercedes Lewis. Guys who have been down the road before, I'm just telling you it's different. And I have players there telling me, dude, it's different. It is different here. - No, I get that. But my optimism for this team, and I do think that they're a playoff team, and yeah, the vibes are high, but it's also because of what you just said, the people they've brought in, the development of certain players under Matt Eber Flus and under Ryan Polls, the addition of Caleb Williams, obviously. Like they're making smart decisions, and because of those smart decisions, that's why I'm optimistic. Like, yeah, vibes are great. Don't lose to the Titans, because then it's a problem. Like you start one and one, like they come off Sunday night football, and they've lost, and they're 0 and 2. They're 1 and 1. Like, it's not gonna be a great Monday, you know, after that game against the Texans on Sunday night football, if they end up losing that game. So yes, vibes are great, and it's awesome, and as we head into the final weekend before the NFL starts, and we've got, you know, the games start next Thursday, and we'll be coming in a week from today, and talking about the Chiefs and all that kind of stuff, and getting ready for the first game in Brazil, and then getting ready for the Bears to open the season on the lakefront. And that's all great. And then you have to take the field. So vibes are great, but I remember last year, when people were picking, including myself, picking them to go over their win total, picking them to do this. And I'm not trying to be apprehensive or anything. - Have you paid me when I told you they would not go? - Yeah, I paid you, yeah. You've mentioned it multiple times, I paid you. Congratulations, you got your money. Thanks. - Thank you. - Taking money out of my daughter's mouth. I get it, it's fine. It's fine, you know, she's got to eat and be clothed and all that kind of stuff, but whatever, it's all good. I got money to burn, right? You don't write checks that your body can't cash. - My point is that I am optimistic for this team for more than just vibes. You know, you guys talked about it the other day. Mike Sando put out his QB tiers. And you guys went through it and there's three QBs in tier one and like 1,000 QBs in tier two and 1,000 more in tier three. And then like one in tier four. But today the athletic writes that base, we all know the Bears have a very easy strength to schedule. They play a very easy schedule through the first half of the season. They play a bunch of division games in the second half. They got the 49ers in the second half. They got the Seahawks in the second half. All that stuff, right? But if you look at it based on Sando's QB tiers, they also have the second easiest schedule based on the quarterbacks that they're going to play. Their average QB tier is three. Their average quarterback that they're gonna face is in that third tier, that low second, high third tier. They don't face a lot of good quarterbacks. Yes, they have to face CJ Stroud, week two. They have to face Jared Goff twice. They have to face Brock Purdy. They have to face Jordan Love twice. But other than that, there's not a lot of great quarterbacks that this defense is gonna have to go up against. And we kind of both expect this defense to take another step forward and play like they did for the second half for the entirety of the season, right? Yes, this defense needs to take another step. Like they were really good after they got Montez Sweat. Really good. They've got to take another step, completely agree with you. They have got to be, like do they have enough to get to the quarterback? We're gonna find out. I love their defensive backfield. I love their linebackers. I still am a little concerned. They're a little short now. Austin Booker had an amazing preseason. He's a fifth round rookie. He is. He has not had an NFL season and then grind in the weight room where he goes, wow, look at that guy. Put on like 20 pounds of muscle. That hasn't happened yet. Three, two years from now, three years from now, he might be an amazing player. We don't know. That's my concern defensively. Offensively, I don't have a lot of concerns. As long as Caleb gets the ball out on time, and we asked Tom Thayer yesterday, Tom Brady was, he does all these great podcasts and these interviews. And Tom Brady said, "If I don't get the ball out of my hand in 2.5 seconds, "maybe 2.75." He said, "I don't care what the offensive line does. "If it's beyond 2.75 and I get sacked, "that's my fault and nobody else's." He goes, "Again, you can put the worst offensive line "in front of me. "If the ball's not out of my hands, "whether I'm throwing it away, "whether I'm throwing it in the dirt, "or whether I'm trying to complete a pass, "if it's not out of my hand and I get sacked, "do not blame the offensive line, "blame the quarterback." Caleb has to be that guy. - Absolutely, and, you know, I am, that's why I said I think this team's a playoff team, because I think Caleb has already mastered a lot of those skills. I think that Caleb, you're going to see the ball come out a lot faster. You're going to see him, you know, like we've seen already, run to throw as opposed to run to run. He's going to go through all of his progressions. He's going to be able to find Keenan Allen, you know, who's unguardable unless you're Jalen Johnson. You know, so he's going to be able to do all of that, and I think that that just adds to what this Bears team can do. I would probably pick them if Justin Fields was still here. I would probably still pick them to win eight or nine games, because I think that this defense and the weapons that they added around, whoever, you know, the shadow quarterback, is good enough to win. And they won seven last year, with Justin Fields and Tyson Beijing. So I think that they could, because of what they added, they're definitely going to go up and wins, but then you add in a quarterback that can give you more, that isn't going to cost you games, that isn't hopefully going to take bad sacks. And because of that, that's why I think they can get to 10 or 11, and even further in a few years. Like, this team can be a playoff team this year, for sure. I think they're going to make the playoffs this year as a Wildcat team. - I do too. - Then next year-- - I think they're winning the division. - I know you do. I think that comes next year. I still think that you've got some gap to make up. You know, going from seven wins to 10 wins, is a decent amount of wins. They went from three to seven last year, going from seven to 10 or seven to 11. - That's big. - That's still pretty big. And so I'm not going to be upset if they don't win the division, but you should definitely be in a wild card hunt of some form, right? And it could, you know, I mean, listen, look at the win totals, Cap. If you look at the Packers win totals 10 and a half, or nine and a half, the Lions are 10 and a half. The Bears is eight and a half. Like, there's not a lot of separation, according to Vegas. And Vegas is usually pretty-- - The injury here, a bounce of a ball there. - Exactly. - My friend Theo Epstein said to me one day, "Progress is not linear." - I mean, he's not just your friend. We all know who Theo Epstein is. Like, if I say my friend, like Brian O'Connor, it's because no one else knows who Brian O'Connor is because of me. - He's the backup quarterback of the Raiders. - Like, if you say Theo Epstein-- - That's Aiden O'Connor. - That's Aiden O'Connor. Like, if I just name names and people, that's when you have to use the qualifier of my friend. We all know who Theo Epstein is. - So-- - You should say the guy who's on the cover of my book. - Damn. - Thank you. - Guy in the cover of my book. Theo Epstein, who every time I talk to him goes, "I haven't got my royalty check yet." He has talked about, "Progress is not linear." You don't go out and spend a bunch of money for Aiden's. He goes, "Okay, we're going from 72 wins to 86." He goes, "It doesn't work that way, man." You wake up one and go, "Yeah, I don't know about our team." And you wake up six months later and you got 94 wins. You're like, "Where does it come from?" He said, "It's not always quantifiable that, "well, we did this, we're taking the next step," because things happen in life and in sports. But I look at this team being up there again yesterday, talking to a couple of veteran players who said, "Dude, you guys aren't around when everybody's gone "from the media and we're in that room." He said, "The vibe is different. "The belief, everything. "It's just different. "What'll put it best? I feel like our favorite football team "is being run by adults, finally." Yeah, and it would be nice to see some of those vibes since we're supposed to be getting a behind-the-scenes look at the Bears in hard knocks. Like, it'd be nice if some of that translated and not just quarterback trips to the Sears Tower. Let's see, what else did we get? We got a trip to Woodman's grocery store. Oh, yeah, we got a trip to Woodman's grocery store with a guy who's not even on the team anymore. We got a-- - Ice cream museum? - We go into the ice cream museum. That's nice, yeah, that's cool. - Good, Jay Moore. - That's awesome. That vibes are great at the ice cream museum, right? - We got a ride to the airport before you flew to Paris. - Okay. - Oh, that was tough. - Yeah, that was-- - I love that one, I love it. - That was a great moment. - Super cool. - Great moments in road trip history right there, in airplane trip history. We got a deep dive on two guys that don't-- that aren't on the team anymore. Let's see what else. - Arm wrestling, dude. - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know if you guys know this. - I mean, that's good football content. - Travis Beijing's gonna be the Bears' new defensive end. - Oh, that's 10 wins right there. - 'Cause he was featured so much on Hard Knocks. - I actually heard he's gonna replace Staley, at select Soldier Field home games this year. - Oh, oh, oh. - Wouldn't surprise me. - And he's gonna arm wrestle fans. - Oh, oh, oh. - Yeah. - Let me just tell you this, Tyson Beijing. I would rather have him than Justin Fields. - Yeah, let's-- - Say that again. - Okay. - I'd rather have Tyson Beijing. - Do you think this is a hot take? - It's not even a controversial opinion anymore. - Yeah, that's not, yeah, you didn't have to say that twice. - That cult is getting everyone together with pitchforks outside the station. - No, I mean, I don't see him anymore. There's no cult anymore. The cult has been dissolved. - Good for the cult. - We burn the witches. It's over. - You know how many people came up to me, Shay and Jay Hood and our booth at the football fest? - Yeah. - I was part of the cult that you talk about. I'm now all, you know, I'm Caleb. - Of course they are. - Of course you are. - 'Cause that's what happens. - Welcome back from your coma. - Yeah. I mean, we all wanted him to play well, but I don't think that there's like this, I don't think that there's this mob anymore that's coming after. I don't think, I said the other day that if you had this Bears team, like take Caleb out of it. Caleb Williams does not exist. We live in a world where the Bears are exactly the same. And you have a quarterback battle between Tyson Beigeon, Justin Fields, and Russell Wilson, that Tyson Beigeon's your week one starter. - I don't disagree. I made the statement that he is one of the best 32 in the National Football League. - Yeah, 'cause Daniel Jones sucks. And so does. - Daniel is not very good. - He has to his defense, taking the team to the playoffs and won a game on the road in the playoffs. - No, the Giants took a team to the playoffs. He didn't do anything. - He was the quarterback. - Okay. - He gets credit. - Does Trubisky get credit for taking the Bears still playoffs? - Yes, he absolutely does. - He doesn't, they had a historically good defense. He absolutely does not. - Rex gets credit for taking the team to the Super Bowl. - I would take 10 Rexes before one Trubisky. - No, I would not. - What? - I would not. - You would take Trubisky over Rex Grossman. - Mitch is my guy. I can't-- - Oh my God. - All right, it's-- - That was a cultist. - All right, it's Cap Solo here for the rest of the day. It was a pleasure joining all of you. Cap will be back. - Mitch's numbers are better than Rex's numbers. - Cap. - That's all I'm telling you. - Oh, Cap will be back right after this, I'm leaving. Goodbye. - Hey, we're gonna talk about George McCasky spoke to The Sun Times. There's a lot there, a lot. We're gonna get into all of that and get your thoughts on the vibe around this team. Telling you, it's different. Be right back. - That's the dress down. (upbeat music) - Cap and Jay Hood are back. - Appreciate you guys that listen to you streaming on the ESPN 1000 app. - Chicago's home for sports, ESPN Chicago. (upbeat music) - Rolling on on the cap, Jay Hood show. Hoody's got the day off on David Kaplan. Adam Abdullah is in for hoodie. Don't forget, we've got baseball tonight, the White Sox will be back in action on the over the Sox. ESPN 1000, we're off to the home of the Chicago Bears, who will get the league mandated weekend off. And then guys will roll in Monday with their first real regular game prep week of the season. And I was up there yesterday and coach Iberflu said that it was really important to practice Wednesday, Thursday and go fairly hard because he wanted Caleb to experience Wednesday, Thursday practice, just like they're gonna do it in the regular season. They're trying to simulate for him every single thing of what they would do in a regular game week. So that next week when he comes in Monday, we do this, we watch film, we lift weights, we do treatment, we do this, Tuesday, while it's a day off, I was told 95% of the guys come in anyway on Tuesdays, even though it's a day off and they get their treatment, they get their massages, they get all that stuff. And then Wednesday, Thursday is when they get after it and the install goes in. Usually there's already some install in for game one, but then the regular weeks start to pile up. But the McCasky piece in the sometimes we'll get to in a minute. I want you to take us to the phones. - Yeah, people already mad at me. Dennis is on the west side. What's up, Dennis? - Hey guys, how you doing? - Good. - What's up, Dennis? - I have a long time listening to our first time caller. That's what I say I enjoy the show. - I'm listening to the football and I'm just curious about something. Can we agree on one thing of the four major sports in America, NHL, MLB, NBA, and football? Football is probably the most more common where you'll see the quick turnaround. Can we agree on that? - Yes, yeah. - Baseball, your draft picks, never play, other than like Paul Skeens, never play, NHL, other than a Connor Medard, the young players, they don't make that huge in NBA. NBA a little bit more, NFL for sure. - Okay, so I'll look at the Detroit Lions. Everyone's on their bandwagon. They're the team to beat. It's a consensus and it's the easiest thing to say. A few years back, for three years in a row, they didn't win more than six games. In 2021, they won three games. Two years later, they win 12 games. There are a couple of plays away from going to the Super Bowl. The Bears should have beat that team twice last year. - No doubt. - Why would it be silly to say that the Bears can be a Super Bowl contender this year when we can all agree that quick turnaround happened in the NFL. There's a team in our division that we're all looking at right now, like they are it, but it took them two years to be snapped away from the Super Bowl and that, again, isn't as uncommon as all the other sports. - The one thing I would say, Dennis, I would say this to you, maybe Adam will disagree. They have a veteran quarterback. He may not be the best quarterback in the league. He's pretty damn good, but that guy had already taken a team in LA to a Super Bowl or in Adam's world. He was along for the ride when they went to the Super Bowl. - He was there. - But he has that type of experience. So it's a little different there and, correct me if I'm wrong, Shay, I know it's your second favorite team. They got three number one picks starting on their offensive line, right? - Yeah, they have the best offensive line in football. I would argue they have an all-pro and Taylor Decker, they have Freik right now and all-pro center, caliber center. And Penne Sewell's the best tackle in football right or left side, period, and he's 23 years old. Like the 25 years old, it's a different beast. - I agree with that yet. - Yeah, I agree with all that I'm just saying, if you look at everything Ryan Cole's has done on both sides of the ball and the improvements that he made, I don't think it's an outlandish statement to say something like that. It's real easy to say, no, maybe one or two games. But in the NFL, it happens more often than you think, if you look at it. - Fair point, fair point. - Thanks, Dennis. - Thank you, Dennis. - Yeah, I mean, I just don't think that in year one of Caleb Williams, they're gonna go to a Super Bowl. - I don't either. I think he's saying to say they're a contender. I think that might, and again. - It could be next year. - I think they're a really talented team, really talented. But unless that kid is the one in a million, they're probably not going to the Super Bowl. - Hopefully he is. Rick's in chat, and what's up, Rick? - Yes, I kind of like to chime in on the last caller. Going from a Super Bowl, our last Super Bowl team, he had an element that nobody's talking about. I haven't heard it on the score, any of the people talk about. And that's scoring defense. Now, we got people that we put to the practice squad, that Ready Kid, there's a line back to the scoring, or they had that mentality. Lovey Smith had that mentality in practice. They picked up the ball and ran to the end zone. We've got, we had a whole of fame. It never has to was on that team. And they went to the Super Bowl. I didn't say what it, but they went Rex Roseman. So, I'm trying to say, yeah, my ground on that team, that was a team that, the bears are who they thought they were. Had no business winning that game. Do you think we'll have a great, and get a great scoring defense and special teams, like we held on that team with all this fast talent on this, what they call it, the picks up the, do you think this, this can be the greatest, their scoring defense, and we don't even know what it was, 85 or 2005. - Thanks, Rick, appreciate it. - Thanks, Rick. - I actually think the 2018 team had a better scoring defense, didn't they? In 2005? Didn't they have more pick sixes and that kind of stuff? Didn't they have like a scoring turnover margin? - Eddie Jackson had an insane year. Alex Brown bristles, so does Lance. If you tell them the 18 defense was better than the 05 or 06 defense, 06 defense. - They could just look at it. - 06 defense, they will throw you up against the wall and tell you don't ever say that around them again. - They could just look at numbers, but like, that's up to them. I'm a small guy, so I don't wanna fight them. - Wait, so you think the 18 defense is a better defense than the 06 defense? - I thought statistically they were. Like just at numbers, they were. They had, I think they had more turnovers than the 05/06, than that team that went to the Super Bowl. - What about yardage? - I don't know of yardage, but the callers said scoring. That's why I bring that up. I thought that this was, when we were talking about the 18 team, they weren't comparing it to that team that went to the Super Bowl. They were comparing them to the 85 Bears. That's when we were having conversations. I'm old enough to remember that we were having conversations in 18 and 19 about a defense that whether or not it was better than the 85 Bears. - Yeah, that 06 Bears defense was freakin' loaded. That team went 13 and three, so they had better record. Their defense had Atawale Goodley, it had Tommy Harris, who was a beast. Alex Brown, Hunter Hill and Meyer, Brian Erlacher, Lance Briggs, Charles Tillman, Nathan Vasscher, Chris Harris, Danielle Manning, Mark Anderson, I believe as a rookie had 10 sacks on that team. - They allowed 17, in 2018 to 19, they allowed 17 and a half points per game. They had 50 sacks, I gotta find intercept turnovers. - The 2006 defense had one pick six, 24 interceptions. The 18 defense had 27 interceptions, five pick sixes. - They got it, they had an insane amount of pick sixes. - Points per game in 2006 was 15.9, third best in the league. What was their points against in 2018? - 17, but they led the league. - It was different era, different era. - Yeah, like, I mean, you're talking about, I mean, look at the quarterbacks at that Bears team faced in 2005 against the yardage and the wide receivers that the Bears were facing in 18 and 19. I mean, it is, you can not like the different era argument, but it's true. It's a much more offensive league than it was 20 years ago. - Don't disagree, but nothing comes close for me to the 1985 game. - Of course, of course. But I just remember-- - Because they were so dominant. - But I just remember having conversations and dismissing them quickly. But people did, we're having the, is this the best defense since the '85 Bears? When we were in '18 and '19, people were having that conversation. - Working over at TV in addition to here. And I said that one day, Alex Brown stood and goes, what did you say? Don't ever say that around us again. He was so mad, so mad. Here is Khalil Mack, he was on with our guy, Big Cat. He was asked about that '18 defense. - I wanna talk about the 2018 Bears because that defense was so much fun to watch. - Yeah, man. - At what point in the season were you like, this is a different, like, 'cause I thought, you know, if you beat the Eagles, like, the sky's the limit with the way the defense was playing. - Yeah, man, yeah. The first day there, man, I kind of just got a feel for the guys, knowing that Khalil Fuller was there. I knew you had a ball on the outside, but I didn't know a lot about Prince and Mookamore. - Yup. - But sit down, talk with him, and then figure out that he can press off the line and all these different things. And I didn't even know this young guy, Eddie Jackson, was in the back end, ready to catch the ball and score at any moment. - Yup. - Along with him, Hicks. - Yeah, along with Amos and Hicks. And then you got two guys, a guy that just got drafted in Rokorn Smith at the time and Danny Trevathan in the middle. - Yup. - And then Akim and Eddie Goldman and Leonard Floyd on the outside. So it was like, I didn't know I was coming into this because I didn't, I really didn't know a lot about the bad organization before I went. I think I made a joke and said I met like the whole McCasky family and had no clue who was who. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like a real like big shock in the culture of like just seeing how big that family was and how much that team meant to the city of Chicago. - The game that I think about in that season was when the Rams, who end up going to the school that year, come with their offense to Soldier Field. - And I think you guys didn't even let them score a touchdown just absolutely demolish them. And I was like, this is different. - Yeah. Yeah, man. That was a special group, man. And also with coach Vic Fangio, man, just the mastermind behind him as a whole. And him understanding the players that he had and making sure before the week, we were prepared and knew what we were gonna do and everything was just gonna be, we expected to dominate the teams that we win against. And so, yeah, man, shots out to them, man. I definitely missed that group. - Yeah, there we go. They were a great defense. - They were. - If they didn't have an actor playing a quarterback, they probably would have gone to the Super Bowl. - Damn, my God. You're brutal. - If they would have had Patrick Mahomes or Deshawn Watson, they would have gone to the Super Bowl. - I don't know about Deshawn Watson, but Patrick Mahomes, definitely. - Dude, Deshawn, you can't argue that I, listen, I understand he likes to get a rub down, but you can't argue that he wasn't an amazing quarterback. Like, you can't argue that, that he was so much better than Mitch. Let's say you don't know. - I've got to say, he's not better than Mitch. - I've been to the alternate universe. They go to the Super Bowl with Deshawn Watson or Patrick Mahomes. - They absolutely did. - Patrick was 100%. There's a lot of other ones that would take them to the Super Bowl. I'm not, and I never was a big Deshawn Watson guy. Never, even before the lotion stuff. - Let's pull up the list of quarterbacks from the 2018 season and see what I'm kidding. - I'm kidding, she's screaming at me. - No, you don't, we got a break. - All right, we got to take the time out and then I want to get into this McCasky article, 'cause there's a lot in there, a lot. - Yeah. - And, man, sometimes, and he's a really good guy, but sometimes, man, they're like. - Aw, gee, you will a curse, Cap. You be careful. - Yeah, golly, golly. - We'll get into that next. - Checkmate 1-6 in here, suppression on target. ♪ That's why I say him and my shirt ♪ ♪ Shot ♪ ♪ Or no shot ♪ ♪ With Cap and Ghood ♪ ♪ On ESPN 1000 and ESPN Chicago at ♪ ♪ That's why I say him and my shirt ♪ - Time for shot or no shot. Our favorite game show here at ESPN 1000. We do it every morning at 8 a.m. All questions up on my Twitter at The Cap Man knowing that George McCasky, the Bears have had a very, quote, active role in the editing process of hard knocks. Are you enjoying it? Disgusting now on ESPN 1000. Right now, 47%. Yes, 36% know, and 18% have not watched. Interesting. Here is Shae W. Norley. - Good morning, boys. Adam, Cap. It's a Friday and football's back. - It's great, I love it. - It is. - I love that money. I got done with the draft last night and I texted Shae 'cause he texted me and just said, NDSU, and I'm like, thank you for the money, Shae. 'Cause when you were so, it's so much conviction I went right to my app and went in. - Very exciting stuff. My team plays tonight. I can't wait to-- - FAU tonight? - Pour myself a cocktail, sit down, and watch those bums at Michigan State take the field. I'm very excited. - I'm having a bloody mary at like 10. Oh, one this morning. Let's go. - I'm gonna be drinking now. I don't know what you guys are waiting for. - My coffee, empty, and my wife usually comes down here and goes, would you like an extra cup of coffee? Here you go. - Nothing. - Shata Bailey's Irish cream in there. - Women be shopping. - That would be a-- (laughing) - What did you say? - Said women be shopping. - I still haven't seen women talking. Just to go back to an old inside joke? - She's out there. She's at her hands. - All right, let's get the shot or no shot. I want to start with the Bears. National media darlings this off season. I mean, we had a caller in the first hour. Ring us up and say, "Why can't they win the Super Bowl? "Why can't they do all the things that are put in front of them?" We know like Rich Eisen had them in the NFC title game. Nick Wright had them in the Super Bowl despite the rookie quarterback. No rookie quarterback has ever been to the Super Bowl, so I'm not ready to go there. And the way the offensive and defensive lines look, just not good enough to me, but shot or no shot. The Bears are only one year away from that being a legitimate conversation. - Ooh, okay. They've got 21 million in cap space. The cap will go up next year. Now there are some contracts that will also eat some of that space up. - Yes, I think that's a shot. - Yeah, I think so. I just, I think that the national media will find another darlings next year obviously to make, 'cause they always do. - Of course. - But I do think that the trajectory is what the Lions are on, right? Like that's the goal is to be the best in the vision. The Lions right now are the best in the vision. So let's say you get to 10 wins this year and you're in the wild card hunt, maybe you make a wild card, whatever. The natural next step is that we get to next season and the win totals are right around, you know, 10 and a half, 10 and a half, 11 and a half, something like that for the Lions, Packers and Bears. So I think that what, the problem is that how, what are the Lions and the Packers gonna look like? I think it's a shot, but I think that you're now in a time where the Packers and the Lions are also going to be good. So it's going to be tougher. Like you're, the NFC North could be one of the better divisions in the NFL for the next five, six years. - You're correct. - Absolutely. - So if you're the Vikings, you're like, oh God. - Like one of the- - And one way to go. - Chris and I were talking about this yesterday, ranking the teams that could go from worst to first, right? And like the Bengals could be a team that go from worst to division to first, they won nine games last year. As the worst in their division. So like you could be looking at a situation like the AFC North where this is just one of the best divisions in football. And yeah, you can say they have Super Bowl aspirations, but you gotta, someone's gotta get out of the division first. - Well, I think the point I'm making too is like, every year there's a media darling. Last year it was the Lions. You either live up to the expectations and their case exceed them and then graduate into a serious team. - Yeah, like you're not a, the Lions are not a darling anymore. Everybody's just taking them very seriously as a Super Bowl contender. - Yeah. - That's what the Bears will have to hope to achieve going into next offseason. - I think they can. - Instead of being the center of the football world and this media darling, like everybody's telling you how pretty you are, just be a serious team. - Just be pretty. Yes, I agree. - Wow, the Bears do what they made this edition. Here we go. - Yeah, shot. - Just do your business. - 'Cause like it's the same way you talk about CJ Stroud. Like that's the goal. The goal is to be the Texans. The goal is to that, okay, well, we didn't expect this, but now people do kind of expect it from the Bears because they have a better infrastructure around. Caleb Williams, then the Texans did around CJ Stroud and to just say, yeah, Caleb's a top 10 quarterback. This is a top 10 team. That's just what they are now. Yes, shot. Shae. - All right, I've waited a while to get to this one 'cause I didn't want to be accused of first take Shay when I put it out there. - I would never do that to you. - I think we're at a point. - Your breakfast ball, Shay, to me. - I think we're at a point where I can fairly ask this question. White Sox, two losses shy of the most in franchise history. They have a chance to tie the franchise record for losses before the calendar flips to September. Two games left in August, if they lose them both, they tie the record for franchise losses. No team in history has ever lost this many games this quickly. The Sox are four and 33. I'll say that again, four and 33 since the All-Star break. The only other team to even be close to this bad was the 1962 Mets. They were in the first year of an expansion team. The Sox are doing this as one of the original teams in Major League Baseball in the third biggest market in a modern era where being this bad's pretty much impossible. Shot or no shot. It isn't hyperbolic to say, the 2024 White Sox are the worst American sports team ever. - That's a shot and the amazing thing is, and again, I did not agree with the hiring of Tony LaRusa when they did it, but I did think it got way out of control, way over the, he won 93 games. What was that? Three seasons ago, 93 games to four and 33. Oh my God. - It's tough for me to say shot because we do have winless teams in American sports. Like what's the equivalent of no wins in the NFL to Major League Baseball? - This, this, this might be harder. - Okay, but they've won. Like that's the only problem. Like the Lions didn't win, I understand. That's why I'm asking what the equivalent is. Like for how many, you know, because you can't compare, like the Lions literally didn't win a single game. They won no games. - So did the Browns. - And the Browns won no games. Like you have two teams that went winless and I understand you've got more, you know, cracks at it or whatever in baseball. So you have the opportunity to win more games, but you have winless team, I think it's a shot, but you still have, like even in the NFL, everyone says it's like, it's kind of hard to go winless. Like you elite, like the Panthers even fell into, like the Bears fell into a couple wins the year they only won three games. - But it's happened twice. Like it might be hard to go winless in the NFL. It's hard to go undefeated in the NFL. Those things have happened. - This, this feels impossible. Four and 33 since the all-star break. You've played, what is that, 37 games? You've won four of them? - That's fair. - This feels impossible. - Because that Lions team, they came out of the gate, lost their first game to the Falcons, 34-21, lost 48-25, like not even competitive. - Yeah. - 31-13, 34-7 at home to the Bears. - See, that's what I'm talking about, Kat. - But then they lost 12 to 10 at Minnesota. They had a 28-21 at Houston, a 25-17 home against the Redskins, 27-23 at the Bears. They have anything else close. 20-16 to the Vikings and Detroit. And then a couple 31-21s. - I think 2016 against Minnesota was Orlowski running out of the back of the end zone too. - Oh God. Oh, that's worse. Anytime you got to bring Orlowski into it, this is much worse. - Lanine Sosa got hit in the nose on a warm up toe. - I know, dude, they almost, no, they almost. - That, I don't know if that's it or if it's the robbed home run. Like, it's just like, dude, like, then nothing is going your way. - How about yesterday? Did you see the low light of, I don't even know who was playing second base? Ground ball, the shortstop. Second baseman comes off, lost the diamond. - Yeah. - That was Sosa. - Throws it like five feet off of first base. Was it Sosa? I wasn't sure if he was starting there because they also got rid of Nicki Lopez. - I saw this from Jason Leisure yesterday. Who has more wins in September than the Bears of the White Sox? - Wow. - The White Sox will face, I'll give it to you. They face, but they have the Mets for one game. Then they have Baltimore, Boston, Cleveland, Oakland, the Angels, the Padres, the Angels, the Tigers. - The Bears. - So the Bears. - I think the Bears win three games in September. - They just went four and 34, what you said? - Since they all start break, four and 34. - Wow, is that tough. - Four and 34, that's not even a win a week. - And by the way, they did not get rid of Nicki Lopez yet. They put his contract on waivers, but he remains on the roster. As of right now, it's like Drew Smiley. He got way, but he's still pitching for the Cubs. - Che. - All right, Dion Sanders, Colorado played an absolute dogfight at home with Division I AA, North Dakota State last night. He also nearly cost himself the game, moronic decision to inside two minutes with only one time out for NDSU, throw it deep for no reason, stop the clock, save their time out. They get the ball back and they were about three yards short on a completed Hail Mary from winning the game outright at Colorado. The broadcast was bizarre. Mark Jones was like openly rooting for the buffaloes. It was kind of wild. They played the montage of Dion taking shots at reporters. The news that he banned a columnist from asking questions at a press conference. And it felt like, at least for me, everyone on social media was kind of doing victory laps around Colorado looking like ass again. Shot or no shot. No one has had a quicker turn from hero to heel than Dion Sanders. - Shot. - I mean, he's certainly in the team photo. I was always kind of a Dion fan. - Yeah. - What he accomplished, how great he was. Yeah. - Listen, no one wanted-- - Disappointing how he's comported himself. - No one wanted Dion to fail. No one was rooting against Dion, okay? Last year. I think people were rooting against the attention that they were getting because of Dion. Like, you had game day come to Colorado and I heard it, I forget who was talking about it yesterday. In for greening. It was game nights on someone else. But like they made a concerted effort to get to Colorado early because the networks knew that they were going to suck by the end of the year. And then you add it like you can be bad, but you have to be humble about it. Like you can't start banning reporters and be bad. You can't start, you know, not taking questions from certain media outlets and also be bad. Like if you want to do that and you've got, you know, trophies in the case, like your dabo and you don't want to take phone calls during your radio show, I'm not upset at that. It's weak, but I get it, you've earned the right to. That's fine. Dion Sanders was the sports illustrated sports person of the year last year. Now I'm rooting against him. Because you're just an ass. - He claims, and I did not know this nugget prior to yesterday, he claims that the reporter, Sean Keeler, I think is his name, questioned his faith and mocked his faith. And he said, that crossed the line and that's why I will not ever answer a question. - What, 'cause he called them the Pope of BS or whatever it is? - There was something about the Pope of-- - He inflicted the Pope's. - I'm not saying I agree, I'm just saying that, I did not know that's why Dion was so anti-Sean Keeler. - There was a writer who brought it up too that that got mentioned on the broadcast and like, I think it was a Denver writer said this is one not true and two not worth repeating on a national broadcast. - Well that's fair, but also he's not a reporter. The guy that they banned? - He's a columnist. - He's a columnist. - You can save it every once. - Yeah, that's the point. He's, you only, I think it was a shifter who was saying this as someone who is a reporter and not a columnist, you only did this columnist a favor because of this. Like he's got more attention because of this and I heard you say a cap rather than just not answering his questions. You made this story that much bigger. - All he had to do was you asked me a question, I'm the coach, ask me whatever you want. He asked the question, I give you a very vanilla forward answer. - Yeah. - Your thoughts on playing North Dakota State, they got a great program. Next. - That's it. - Remember. - Give the guy nothing. - Remember go to Fox Sports with Erlacher. - Yeah. - Go to Fox Sports.com. Go to Fox Sports.com. Go to Fox Sports.com. He took all the questions, didn't ban anybody. - Right. - Wasn't asked in the process, but still like, you're not kicking people out. It's ridiculous. Now, rooting against them. - How 'bout the marshall? - Also because I have an under ticket. - There you go. Me too. - I'm just here so I don't get fined. - Yeah, just go with that. Like, what do we always say, Cap? Never get in fights with people who don't run out of ink. - 'Cause no, the line is don't get into a fight with a man who buys barrel by the ink. - Yeah. - Inc. by the barrel. - He's got a coach of football team. That dude writes every day. - Yeah, exactly. - It's just the whole thing. And then honestly, for me, the reason I'm rooting against him the most is 'cause all the narrative is just so fake. - Oh, I don't care. - Every time I turn ESPN on and they're talking, "Oh, he's made so much money for Colorado." They had an $8 billion endowment before he got there. They were fine. - You wanna know what pisses me off the most? What pisses me off the most, and it's the most minuscule of thing about Colorado, is that ESPN puts them in the playoff promo. That when they're promo-ing the 12 team playoff, it's Alabama, it's Michigan, it's Washington, it's Clemson, Ohio State, Oregon, Colorado. - No, there's no chance they're not horrible. - It's ridiculous. - It's ridiculous, it's so stupid. - And his kid, Shadoor, who had an amazing game last night. - He's awesome, by the way. - He's so good. - He's awesome. - So, Tim and Travis Hunter must watch, they're the best players on the, every time they step on the field. They're going to be the best players. - Our friend David Flom, who's a dear friend of mine, David Flom, who owns Chicago, cut, his son goes to Colorado. A year ago, he gets to sign his lab partner in class, Shadoor Sanders. And he said, I said what's he like? He goes, Owen said, he's the best. What a great kid. He's just good to everybody. He said, awesome. And I'm glad to hear he's that type of kid. - The other kid, Shiloh, start updating your LinkedIn, buddy. - Dude. - Jesus. Well, that game couldn't have gone worse. - Little nepotiz will probably keep him on the roster. - Oh, he's smart. - Yeah, he's not going anywhere. - I don't think that kid's getting drafted. - Shadoor, we have time to squeeze in one more. - Let's go to around the NFL. - All right, let's go to around the NFL. We'll do that next. (upbeat music) - Follow Chicago's home for sports on Twitch at ESPN 1000 Chicago. (upbeat music) Captain Jay Hood on bat on Chicago's home for sports. ESPN Chicago. - It both sucks. - These sucks. I'm just a fan. I'm not a football evaluator. I love the Green Bay Packers. - The guy is front, but there he goes. - This is not Detroit, man. This is the Super Bowl. - I love winning. He starts to come any longer. - This is a really thickly built guy. - I mean, what's that? So you're looking for all of these things here, huh? - Whoa! - Whoa! (upbeat music) - All right, time to go around the National Football League. We do it every day here on the show. Here is Shay Norlin. - We'll start with the big news yesterday. Finally, the Niners contract saga with at least one of their players is over. Brandon Iyuk got a $120 million extension to stay in San Francisco. And once again, month long trade rumors, make 'em an email. We don't need to do it every day, please. - We gotta have something to talk about, man. Come on. - It always ends with the players staying on the team they're on. - Almost always CD lamb still in Dallas. Iyuk gets extended in San Francisco. Jamar, uh-oh, uh-oh, uh-oh. - Uh-oh, uh-oh. - Jamar Chase, is he gonna miss week one? - So I would. - No way. - I would. Why not? Who do the Bengals have week one? - New England. - Oh yeah, I just set that one out. Yeah, set that one out. I mean, think about it. What did, uh, last year, what was his name? Chris Jones missed the first game, right? - Got paid. - Got paid. Courtney has told us, Courtney told us that at those joint practices with the Bengals, and you guys played the report, too, from the Bengals reporter who was at the joint practices saying it was never more evident that Joe Burrow and the Bengals missed Jamar Chase than it was during that practice. - Oh, Fox 19. - Yes. - We have, Jaymore still has that. - Yeah, we don't need to play. You don't, I mean, I'm summarizing. That he said they've never needed Jamar Chase more than when they faced real competition in a good second day. - Yeah, the fair defense, right. - So, sit out, you'll get your money. They have to pay him. You're not gonna let him walk. Eventually, he will either come back to play so he can then become a free agent, or you'll give him a deal. One of the two things will happen. 'Cause if he just sits out the hole, you get to do this all again next year. 'Cause the year doesn't count. But my question is, why did Cleveland clear up all that money yesterday then? If they weren't gonna get I-Uke, why'd they clear up all that money? - Because you could carry a lot of money over next year. - But only to reward your own guys. It doesn't like, it doesn't add to your cap space. Yeah, you have to use it for extensions. It doesn't go to your cap. - Correct, but you could take care of guys now. So when the cap goes over, I don't have, it goes up. I don't have to worry about taking care of them. - It doesn't. If the bears restructured Montez Sweat, and they all of a sudden created 30 more million dollars, we'd be like, hmm, something is afoot. - Well, they feel like they got extended tap in Jenkins, and they got to take care of other stuff. - But yeah, 'cause they did that with DJ. DJ Moore became cheaper this year. So they have freed up more money, and all of us the next day were like, wait a minute. But what's that for? - Well, Kyle Long did tweet that cryptic GIF of Ryan Paul's getting on the phone as soon as Brandon Ayuk was resigned. We know Trim Williams is still looking for a deal. - I'm not doing that. - I'm not interested either. The cost might be too hot, but again, he's 36 years old. - He's about to tackle him football. - He's 36. - I'm not, I'm not paying him 37 million dollars next year. - What's it gonna cost to get him? Because you gotta pay him, so that immediately takes his value away. - Yeah. - He's 36, that takes his value away. - I just wouldn't do it. - This is a guy who sat out a full year in Washington. Full year. - Yeah, I just wouldn't do it. There's no way. That's too much money. - At what, okay, if they said to you, you can have him for a fourth-hour pick. Would you do that? Or there's the money totally the problem. - It's 30, he gets 37 million dollars. That's so much money. - Well, he's a great football player. - Okay. - You might be able to keep him for less, too, if you restructure the contract with guarantees. 'Cause all he's looking for is guaranteed money. I don't think he's looking for a huge number. - How much guarantee? - Well. - That's the problem. I'm not doing it. I'm sorry, that's the age thing. He's one bad step away from never playing again. At that age. Sorry, not for me. He's great, but I'm not making the move and guaranteeing all that money. - Yeah, 'cause they would probably tell you, we want Braxton Jones, and then you're like, we've been developing this guy for three years. - Who's gonna play when he can't play for the first two weeks, 'cause he's still ramping up? - Correct. - Is this Deck Prescott's last year with the Cowboys? The news yesterday, Deck Prescott's comments, I'm not having a deal so far, quote, says a lot. - I think so. I do. I don't think they get a deal done before the season starts, and I think that he leaves in the off season. - So then that probably means they didn't win the Super Bowl. That probably means they didn't have a great deep playoff run, and that probably means there's a new coach, and a young quarterback, and they're restarting things, right? - I mean, maybe. Why can't they win, and he still leaves? - If they win, they're paying him. There's no way. - Then pay him now and get ahead of it. - Well, what if Jerry said prove to me you win playoff game? I gotta see it. - And then instead of 60 million a year, you're going to pay him 70 million a year because it's just going up. - You think he'll care if he wins the Super Bowl? I don't think he'll care. - I don't think they end up paying him. I think this goes into next season or the off season, and then he's a, oh, let's see, where would he go? He's a great stealer. - They might need a quarterback. - He's a great stealer. - What about Vegas? - Yeah, he's a great raider. - Good for him. - Seattle, they're going to need one. Gino deals up, I think. - Yeah. - He might have a year. - Yeah. - We're Rams. At some point, Matthew Stabber's not getting any younger. - They just restructured his deal, too. I think he's going to be around for a little bit. You're not going to pay him both. - True. - Shay. - All right, last story for around the NFL. Tom Brady is going to make his debut as a broadcaster next week on the Fox main broadcast with Kevin Burkhardt, but a story yesterday detailed that he's going to have some restrictions placed on him as he's trying to become a partial owner of the Las Vegas Raiders. Immediately effective restrictions include limited access to other team facilities and practices, as well as limited access to production meetings. And if he's approved as an owner, he'll also be barred completely from publicly criticizing officials and publicly criticizing other teams. Can't really get more public than being on the broadcast of games. If he's not allowed to criticize officials or criticize teams, what is the point of having him in a booth? - Well, what's the point of him going after being an owner? Is my question. - I would give that up if I were him. - So would I. He's making, over the next 10 years, he's going to make $375 million from Fox. Own a team in 10 years. He's Dracula. He's not dying. He's not going anywhere. That face is going to continue to get thinner. And he's going to be able to buy whatever he wants to, because he's using whatever fountain of youth, the blood of young children or something. I don't know what he's using to look younger than he did when he came out of college, but-- - It's buckle fat removal. - Okay, there you go. Yeah, I know. I know what it is. The picture they put him on the Colorado game broadcast last night was scary. - Yeah. - Or maybe it was the UNC Minnesota, one of them. - I didn't see the picture. What was it? - I think it was the UNC Minnesota game on Fox. And they have Burkhart, just looks like a normal guy on television, Tom Renaldi looks like a normal guy on television, Tom Brady looks like a wax figurine. It was horrifying. - Yeah, you gotta cap. You should get that buckle fat removal done. - What does that mean? - You suck the fat out of your cheeks so it accentuates your cheekbones. - Why would I wanna do that? - I'm just saying, if you wanna be like Tom Brady, get the Tom Brady. - And I like Tom Brady. - I just think, why can't you just wait 10 years? You've already got a piece of an EPL team. You're not hurting for money. You've got $375 million coming to you over the next 10 years, $37.5 million a year. Wait 10 years, then say to the Raiders, hold my spot. I'll be back in 10 years and I'm sure they will. - I wonder how much did he put into the team? - I don't know. - I wonder if he could, let's say it was 10 million. I'm just giving you a random number. It's probably way more than that. Couldn't he put that all in escrow and just go, when I'm done broadcasting, I'll be back. - Well yeah, just do what, like listen, Jay-Z wanted to be to own an agency, but he was partial owner of the Nets and you can't do bald, so he just sold his portion of the Nets. - $175 million for Brady with the Raiders. - All right, get that back. You can't tell me he couldn't sell for a profit right now. He could get 200 on the way back. Come on, of course he could. - It does, it feels like the NFL is saying, you're either gonna own a team or you're gonna be in the booth. You're not doing both. - No, just sell your portion of the team. Get out for a make 25 million dollars on the deal. Get out, you'll be fine. Sell it to some Saudis. Look tagged it, sell it to some Saudis, you're amazing. - Come on, private equity fund. - It dates allowed now. - Yeah, they just voted for it. - Did you do that baseball? - I think baseball, you could do whatever you want to as long as the owners approve it. - So, I don't think Jerry would, let's say that Tom said, all right, I want Juan Soto. Sell two points of the team, let's go, right? - Yeah, probably, yeah. - And then you'd be playing at Wrigley Field, you'd be playing on Wrigley Field at Tehod Stadium. - Private equity can have minority stakes in MLB teams, but keep in mind these are not necessarily generous investors because they've bought up the minor league teams and shut them down. - Yeah, oh yeah, come on. - Yeah, so it'd be Wrigley Field at Emirates Stadium, right? - Yeah, absolutely. - Let's go, you get me Juan Soto and a closer, let's go. - Or Soldier Field at the Tehod Stadium or Emirates Stadium. - Cap's gonna start taking hides with you. (laughing) - He shows up in the towel, in the ropes. He's got it, he's got it, he's got it. He's gonna make me look, we gotta go to Omra, kid. Time to go to Hodge. - Danny, it's on. - Let's go to Varek, I need the day off. - I'm hungry, I've got intermittent fasting all day. - With cubs logo, he's got a blue and red. It's for going to Hodge. He's got the, he's. (laughing) - All for Juan Soto. (laughing) - That's a change cap. - Juan Soto and Josh Hader are here. - He's got the Katie's two pint the dances and everything, I can say. (laughing) - Wow, all right, we've gotta take a time out. We have a lot more to do on the old program. - The Fat Jack is coming up next. - Correct, we'll talk to our guy, the Fat Jack. It perspectives on college, and I wanna talk to him about the bears over and under, and I'll give you the headlines. There's a terrible story developing in the National Hockey League overnight. We'll get to all of that next.