Kap & J. Hood
8/29 8 AM: Dealbreakers
[MUSIC PLAYING] Eight o'clock straight up in the great city of Chicago. It's called shot or no shot. Here is-- Shay Norlin. Good morning, boys. On a Thursday, day or Thursday, deal breakers Thursday, Jesse, cap, how we feeling? We're good, man. Good, fired up. Good fire to see you, Shay, buddy. It's always good to see you, too. Yeah, that wasn't sarcastic. That was honest. It felt a little sarcastic, if I'm being honest. No, I've done that with you in the past, not this time. Well, that's very nice of you. I'm happy to see you as well. Let's get started with shot or no shot. We haven't gotten to this yet. Ryan Polls met the media yesterday, and he talked about his relationship with Matt Eberfluce. He actually spoke really highly about his relationship with Eberfluce and his belief in his head coach. Listen to this. Yeah, I think his resilience for where our roster was and for how far we knew it had to go to set a standard and hold everybody to that is extremely difficult. To keep a team together through adversity is extremely difficult. But I think at the end of the day, that's going to be awesome, is those things will be established. And then when the winning comes, you have a stronger product because of it. And so really, I really look at the resilience piece of it. It's so hard with pressure to stay the course. When you want to be-- there's a lot of noise in terms of doing different things and changes and all that. But to hold the line, it takes a special man to do that, and he's done that. And then just the ability to adapt and adjust. You can see that on a daily basis, always trying to get better, taking the feedback from players. What do we need to change? What do we need to adjust? What are you guys seeing? How are you feeling? And then making the tweaks. That relationship has been incredible. And then I probably had a third thing as it's kind of coming to me. But just investing in relationships. He's had every single person on our team over at his house to spend time there to get to know them better. There's activities and things that he did. But that was done intentionally. That wasn't just to do it and check a box. It was to really invest in our players and build that trust because you need that. Shot or no shot? Do you hear Ryan Pools talk that highly about Eber Flus? Matt Eber Flus is going nowhere after this season. That is an absolute shot. Now look, Matt is a football coach. He gets it. He would tell you if they go five and 12 and Caleb looks awful, he's gone. If they have problems in the locker room, he's gone. I don't believe any of that's gonna happen. And I think Eber Flus is gonna have the last laugh. And he is gonna be, I've been the same solid guy in my room. I was bad at the podium and the team wasn't good. We had no talent yet. And you guys all thought, that guy's awful. I'm better than you gave me credit for. My players like me, I like me. Guess what? I'm getting extended. Yeah, it feels like Ryan was not judging Eber Flus on anything that happened on a Sunday. It was all from Monday to Saturday in the last couple years. That's correct. Starting this year, polls and everyone we all know, they have the horses to be at least decent, if not better than that. So I think he starts to get judged on Sundays more than Monday through Saturday. I think he's proven the Monday through Saturday thing to polls. He's no doubt. You gotta get it done on Sunday. Like, I don't think polls cared if there was some bad clock management last year or the year before. This year, or pick whatever it is. Not enough halftime adjustments. If he's seeing that, I think Eber Flus gets judged much more on Sunday this year. And so, yeah, I think there's a shot 'cause nobody has a crystal ball. So I think there's a shot that he doesn't get extended, but I'm with cap. It's doubtful. Correct. What would it have to be for him to not get an extension? Like, not getting any extensions one thing. To be fired? I think we'd have to go out or space bad. Like, the locker room has to totally fall apart. That's what I'm saying. The team has to be atrocious because polls has talked so much about, I wanna break the cycle of what's been happening here. That cycle is drafting the quarterback and then getting a new head coach for that quarterback. The second season. I'm gonna disagree a little bit. Obviously, if the locker room fractures, probably won't happen. But I think at this point, there is a win-lost record that makes a difference. I don't think you can go six and 11 and say the locker room's not fractured. You think you'll get fired at six and 11? 'Cause I don't. I think you'll be extremely scrutinized. I don't know for sure. But I think this is a results-oriented businesses. It's not a feel-good business. If they go six and 11 just using that, I think, yes, yeah, I think there's a chance. I think so. I think he'd be on the incredible hot seat. He'd probably be the favorite for first coach fired in 2025. But dude, I really don't know that they're gonna fire this cat unless things are just awful. It's like a total tire fire. Everything would have to be- Well, it's six and 11 and it might be a tire fire. But at six and 11, there might be a tire fire, right? Depends. If you told me God forbid that horrific injury, he's going nowhere. Yeah, all right. If Caleb looks- If at the end of the year, whatever the record is within reason, you look and go, that's the guy. We finally got one. That's the guy. They're extending him. Okay, but the record will determine that in my mind. It really will. Within reason. Yeah, no, I think he'll get every benefit of the doubt. If he's just nine and eight, of course, he's staying. But in the other extreme, if he's three and 13, he's probably not. But if he's six and 11, I think they'll be highly scrutinized. I agree. This is results-orient. That's fair. Shay. All right, Paul's also said he takes pride in the way that he has built this team and set them up for this season in his third year as general manager. Honestly, you take a look at the roster. It is really impressive to look at this offense, what it was two years ago, when they didn't have really a one, two, or three wide receiver. Now they have three that could all arguably be wide receiver ones. It's kind of wild when you look at how far this roster's coming just two seasons. So shot or no shot. If you were grading Ryan Paul's tenure to this point, not counting anything that's going to happen, only from the start to today, it would have to be an A-plus. Shot. You look at that roster. Now he was left jail in Johnson of what's still here. Kevin Jenkins. Cole Comette. Kaleel Herbert. Who else, Shay? I think they're six. Five or six. I don't remember who else I'm missing. It's okay. Ryan Paul's has, to this point, knocked it out of the park. Yeah, I would say shot as well. And we don't often give A-plus's on Sports Talk Radio, right? But in terms of the blueprint of a rebuild, it's an A-plus. And I don't want anyone calling up as well. Chase Clayport makes an A-minus, no. That doesn't, every GM makes bad decisions. But is the plan, is the plan right? And has it been executed correctly? The answers, yes. The answers, yes, to this point. Yeah, and I don't give out an A-plus easily, but this would be one. 'Cause I can't. I don't see how he could have done the rebuild any better. Agree. I mean, he got some good fortune with Carolina, but who cares? Take that good fortune and run with it. Even the Claypool thing, you get dinged a little for doing it, but you also win some points back because you found your way out of it as quickly as possible. Yeah, for sure. All right, wanna get to the Cubs a little bit. Obviously on this hot streak, they haven't gained any ground, but there is a surprising person who might be partially responsible for the Cubs hot streak if you ask Craig Council. Here we go, oh God. I was gifted a Taylor Swift candle, and we've been lighting that before games in my office, clubhouse manager, Danny Miller, and we've found in a nice little run here, so we're gonna credit Taylor Swift. There you go, Craig Council crediting Taylor Swift for the Cubs hot streak. Shot or no shot, Taylor Swift is more responsible for this than your little rat Otis the owl. Oh, jeez, he's not a rat. Can I take neither? I'd say PCA is more responsible for it. So no shot, the owls, the owls king. The owl wins over Taylor Swift. Otis rules, he watches every game. Here and in Wisconsin, I have two out Otis. Oh, you don't? Do you know that I went out of my way and went to Bass Pro Shop to record a recap in an aisle full of Otis's? You're a strange dude. And I said Otis's family's here. You are a strange kid. And I had employees standing there watching me. Are you a cap? Yeah, I'd pick her out of your mind. I'd pick Otis because Otis was there during the bad days. Taylor Swift is showing up just like PCA and Miguel Amaya are finally showing up. So no, no shot. Taylor Swift has like, it's not like she's at Riggly. It's just Craig Council like the candle. The candle's showing up. Is anybody. Why is Taylor Swift becoming so ubiquitous in our sports? I don't know. You can't watch chief's game without her. Now the cubs are crediting her for the winning streak. What's next? That is so good. She's gonna sing at the convention. Oh, that didn't happen either. Oh boy. That whole thing was over there. Where was the secret guest? I know. So funny. So good. TMZ even had a tweet. We got this one wrong because they were saying Beyonce. Wow. Shake. Soldier Field debuted the new food options for the 2024 season yesterday that are gonna be available on game day. There was a bear claw pretzel. It's a massive pretzel that's shaped like Caleb's bear claw. They also have the Odunze dog. It is a jalapeno cheddar hot dog with Italian beef. Chardonnara, spicy Chicago secret sauce and cheese crisp crumble. Shot or no shot? This is a dangerous item to eat. If your only option is the Soldier Field bathrooms. (laughing) Shot. Yeah, shot. For sure. No, why would you need the Soldier Field bathroom for a pretzel? No, not a pretzel. The Odunze dog. The Odunze dog. The Odunze dog. Yeah, I thought you meant the pretzel. The jalapeno cheddar hot dog with Italian beef, Chardonnara and spicy Chicago secret sauce. You're gonna miss a quarter and a half, eat that. Dude, it's gonna be like 93 degrees the way the weather's been going lately at the Titans game. I am not going. You eat a spicy hot dog, you're stuck in the bathroom for a quarter and a half. Yeah, that's a no shot for me. That is not gonna. You might miss a half of football. Yeah. Yeah. Is that the bear's version of the milkshake? Not that the milkshake will do the same thing to you internally, but like is that their big thing? You know what I mean? The Odunze dog? The Odunze dog is that they're big 'cause the pretzel's a pretzel, but that Odunze dog sounds pretty-- It seems like the flagship item of all the food by items that they were debuting. Yeah, the flagship item. By the way, pretzel with cheese dipped underrated. I do like, you gotta have some cheese dipped though. Yeah, pretzel with cheese, yeah. I'm not a cheese fry guy. No, me neither. You need to eat fries, I'm gonna eat fries. There is a fry option at Soldier Field this year, Cap. How about carne asada waffle fries? As long as they're not seasoned. I don't like seasoned fries. You don't like truffle fries. No, I hate truffle. My wife loves it. Yeah, most people like truffle more than regular. I don't know. Interesting. Like, what's the place over on... You said Kinsey? Maybe it's Hubbard? It's Billy Dec's place. What's it? How'll it to move? Yeah. They have truffle fries. No, you're no go on there. No go. Interesting. Most people-- Grumble fries are more expensive than regular fries. Correct. You like the cheap stuff. How'll let the moon has food? I'm pretty sure, yeah. I've only been there late night when people are just Venmo-ing the band to play whatever so they can sing along. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I have only been there when I'm like seven out of 10 drunk or worse. I was not aware that's a place that is a kitchen. That's used to me. Here it is. You can even go through Uber Eats. How'll let the moon food? Well, that's crazy. American sand, which is everything. Yeah. It's basically-- it's like almost a karaoke bar. Who's getting Uber Eats? Yeah, quesadillas, mac and cheese, tater tots, truffle fries, jumbo pretzels, mozzarella sticks. Yeah. Buffalo chicken wrap. I like this menu. Angus beef burger, foot-long hot dogs. Get me hungry. How about a mac and cheese dog? A foot-long hot dog topped with green onions and our homemade mac and cheese. I like this one. A Sonora dog, sliced steak, sauteed onions, tomato, bacon, green onions, mixed cheese, jalapeno, cream, and a foot-long hot dog. Let's go there for lunch. Wow. Today. Let's do it. In. In. Not. Pretzel bites. You can't do that. Underrated. Che. That's like the most standard American pub menu that I have ever heard in my entire life. But it's Angus beef burgers like the trademark on any American pub you walk into. Right. They got a lot of stuff on here, man. Danny and I could go here, and we could be able to actually eat in a place like that. They have this awesome looking broccoli dish. Yeah. OK. I'm not sure I'm ordering broccoli at the hall at the moment. You're drunk off your ass. Late night, they're playing the killers, the band up top. Everybody's been mowing, and you're sitting there ordering a broccoli dish over to the table. I'd get the broccoli, and I'd get the burger with no bun. I'd be good here. You lost me the broccoli dish. So anyway. All right. What else you got? Around the national football league, and you're going to hear something from a classic, from the coach in our around the NFL. Beautiful. Shays got it all put together. It's next. Truth or the matter is, you're listening to Captain Jay Hood on ESPN 1,000 weekdays, 7 to 10 a.m. But it'll last a lifetime. It may only be three hours a day, but it'll last you a lifetime. [CHEERING] Nick both sucks. He sucks. I'm just a fan. I'm not a football evaluator. I love the Green Bay Packers. The guy is drunk, but there he goes. This is not Detroit, man. This is the Super Bowl. I love winning. He starts to come and come. This is a really thickly built guy. I mean, what's the answer you're looking for? All these things here. Uh-huh. [MUSIC PLAYING] It's time to go around the Nash football league. Here's Shane Orla. All right. I've got a couple quarterback questions for you, and then a college question. I want you two of you to help a coach out. But I'll start with the quarterback questions, because Russell Wilson was officially named the starter QB1 for the Pittsburgh Steelers. His quote yesterday, "I know I'm ready. We're ready. We're looking forward to playing. The goal is to help the Pittsburgh Steelers win a seventh trophy. I came here to be a Pittsburgh Steelers. Help us win another Super Bowl. I believe in this football team." I think that's totally out of the question. I don't think the Steelers are even going to be a playoff team. Russell Wilson chose to mention seven trophies, so I'm going to set the number at 6 and 1/2. Over or under, 6 and 1/2 starts for Russell Wilson in Pittsburgh this season. It's a good number to put it at. 6 and 1/2? It's a good number. Over. That's a layup. It's not a layup. It is. I hate Russell Wilson, so there's the difference. I'm biased against him. Do not like him. I did not think it would work out in Denver, and it didn't. 6 and 1/2 between injury and poor performance. I'll take the over, but slightly. 17 game season. I think he makes it at least seven, but not much more than that. I'm just not a fan. I promise the backup's not very good here. No, the backup's not good. But I'll take the over slightly. Cap has the under. You know how many cult numbers came up to me and hoodie at the football fest at Hard Rock, you know, Northern Indiana on Sunday? Changing their mind, right? A bunch of them. Can I take a picture with you? I was really mad when you were all in for Caleb. And now I'm all in for Caleb and I apologize. Good. That's how it should be. Because I even wave it for a moment. I had quite the journey with Justin Fields. At first, I didn't like that. They drafted him then in three preseason games. And I'm like, this guy's going to the Hall of Fame. And then it was bad, and it was good and bad. And at some point I did say last year, I wouldn't mind if they traded the pick and build around him. But I was never like a cult member. Build around him. Cultist. My feeling was a monster team around any decent quarterback. No, he's not good enough. OK, fine. You're sitting there with a cultist, Capy. Put his feet to the fire. No, no, you sound like a cultist. You're sitting there with a cultist. No, I was all out on him most of last season and since. And so he'll back me up. I said like in October and November. Move on, let's go. I actually was mostly even then towards the end. I'm like, I don't know. You could get such a Hall. Anyway, but I was never like, oh my god, they're getting rid of Fields and drafting Caleb. No, it was never like that. Yeah, my people were. My guy Pat the designer. Now he's all like, oh, we got him. Yeah, never you Pat. But I'm going to hold his feet to the fire for years. I never thought it was the wrong move. You can like Justin Fields, but drafting Caleb, how could you call that the wrong move? Jesse, you know what I mean? I'm glad you brought up Pat the designer cap. There was a day you and hoodie were off. Pat and Jesse were in here and the three of us got into a screaming match because I was saying, you cannot keep Justin Fields. Yeah, and you're right. Yeah, Pat the designer. And again, I'm a big fan of his. He put out a little video when I coined the term, chasing greatness. That's ridiculous, blah, blah, blah. Pat, Justin Fields is a you go going up against a Mercedes 550. I mean, what are we doing here? Totally. And look, and that's why I'm glad people came up to you. 'Cause if you're still saying it's a bad pick and a bad trade and all this stuff, then you're dumb. We learned everything we need to know about Justin Fields when polls could not get anything for him. When the whole league is telling us, then that trumps anybody's opinion. Yeah, you know what I mean? So yeah, there you go. Well, we gotta get the haul, stop, whatever. Shake. All right, another quarterback question. The New England Patriots have made it official this morning. Jacobi Brissette will be the starting quarterback for the Patriots when the season starts. Smart, let Drake may learn and develop. I actually agree with you, not because he's going to learn a lot or develop a lot sitting behind Jacobi Brissette, but because the schedule for them is brutal. He learns watching a professional quarterback who may not be good enough. You really learn. No, I don't buy a Brissette cap. I'm with Kevin's matter. You learn the game. You're just watching. Can I argue the point that I'm trying to make? Yeah, you told me he'd be starting if not for a tough schedule. Come on, Shay, you're better than that. Yeah, exactly. I actually think so. He totally outplayed Brissette in the preseason. It doesn't matter, you gotta learn. He's the better of the two players. Mayo said he's ready to go. He said he outplayed him in the preseason. Here's my side of it. That schedule's horrible to start the season. They do not have an offensive line that they believe can keep Drake may healthy. You put a rookie out there to start potentially 0 and 6 and just get battered and sacked. That is how you ruin a player. I don't think this is a big, like, let him develop and learn behind Jacobi because he's a professional. I think it's let Jacobi wear the hits, let Jacobi wear the losses, and then we'll figure out when we're ready to put May in the game. But here's my one disagreement with you, Shay. You can learn from someone who's not that good a player because they've been around and they know the ins and outs of the league. Josh McCown's not a Hall of Fame quarterback, but a lot of people said brilliant in the room, teaching brilliant. And you don't throw a rookie quarterback into the fire when you're a bad team like that. - That's what I'm saying. That's the part I agree with. Like, they would be throwing Drake May into one of the worst possible situations where he'd just be getting lit up by past pressure. - But it doesn't matter what the schedule says, though. He'd be getting lit up no matter what that team is awful. - I agree with you. - So, okay, maybe we're saying the same thing, but it's different with Caleb Williams and the foundation they have here. Most quarterbacks should sit because they're being drafted by horrendous teams. - But that's also not necessarily, it's never really been true. Like, even going back to Terry Bradshaw, when he got drafted as a rookie, he started right away. - All I know, it's worked in Green Bay for about two decades. - Right, but that's the only situation where that's true. And it's also the only situation where they're drafted consistently at the bottom of the first round with Hall of Fame quarterbacks in front of the guy that they draft. - Yeah, it's worth. - I'm making the point almost never. Do you see a team rest their first round pick quarterback behind a guy who's kind of a nobody? - Not anymore, you don't. - Not even then, Terry Bradshaw started week one for the Steelers. That was 1977. - But I'm sure-- - Peyton Manning started for the Colts. That was 1999. - But I would assume more top picks start now than they did back then. You're giving me a few exceptions. I'm guessing they used to sit a little bit longer. - They did. - First round quarterbacks usually start. - I don't know, maybe top picks. - Should we, maybe it was the third pick in this draft? - Okay, but when you're on such a bad team, that's the key. - I agree, but that's the point I mean, like I don't buy that it's, let him sit and learn from Jacobi Brissette. Brissette blows. - Drew, Shay, again, you can learn from someone who may not be the best player. Bill Belichick is a brilliant coach. He wasn't a great NFL player. Can't learn from him, he was not a good player. Jacobi Brissette may be brilliant in the room. Who did John Grudin say? By far, the smartest quarterback I've ever, ever. - He said that, I didn't see that. - Was with Javis Winston. He's not a great player. - Right, but regardless of how bad Brissette is, he's learning from watching the game. Not just the quarterback, how about the opposing quarterback, right? - Right. - You can learn from that as well. - Slowing everything down at Stan and there in the line. I didn't really think of it that way. - I mean, I think any GM or coach in a perfect world would love to have a year with this quarterback watching. - And the greatest example of all is Cap Rooney. Cap Rooney was the greatest mentor to statement Willie Beeman in any given Sunday. You remember what he said? I learned more from watching Cap for a half than I learned from anybody else, my career. - That's the final word on that, Shane. - Since it happened in a fictional screenplay, must be true. All right, the final topic and around the NFL actually goes to a college head coach. Dabo Sweeney this week announced he will no longer take live phone calls on his radio show. Last year you might remember Tyler from Spartanburg called in and got Dabo incensed because he asked the question on the phone. Why are we paying you 11 and a half million dollars to go four and four? Dabo went on an all-time ramp and now he's saying no live phone calls. The two of you remember Coach Dicke who might have some advice for Dabo Sweeney. - He fired almost as many verbal attacks if his team has wins. He's publicly ripped his quarterback, a newspaper reporter, and now a fan who had some choice words for Iron Mike during a radio talk show. - What is it, a pair that Mike was holding back trying not to cry like the baby that he is? - Well, now I tell you what you are, I can't say on the air, but I tell you what, I'm 53 years old and my office is 250 North Washington. Anytime you want to meet me there, you call me back on the air, you tell me what time and when, and I'll whip your ass. (crowd cheers) - You got that, big boy? It's easy to hide behind a microphone, son. Let's get your face on public and let's live where people have to see you every day and we'll see who the gutless wonder is. - The good old days. - That was on the old 820. - Amazing. - That's how Dabo could handle a caller. - I think maybe it was G at one of them. - No, no, it was on our station. - The score. - Oh, that in the old one, the 820. - Yeah, yeah, the old one. - And it was amazing. - And that is courtesy of ESPN who put that out. - Can you believe that for people that have never heard that? What, he just challenged a caller. You don't see that. Now here's the difference between Dabo and Dica. Dica continued to take phone calls. He didn't give a damn. - Yeah, exactly. - This guy's running and hiding, so stupid. You're only drawing attention to yourself when you do something like that. - Unbelievable. - Absolutely. Unbelievable. - Amazing. - God, I wish we had did getting his prime now. - Oh my God. - Social media, all that stuff, be amazing. It would be amazing. - All right. - Dabo threatened physical violence to a caller in 2024 and get away with it. - Not sure. I don't think you'd get fired. Now if you did get into a scrape of them, that would be a problem. - If you said meet me at my office, no, I don't think he gets fired. - You want to come down to my office to try and take me out, big boy? - Yep. - There you go. I don't think you get in trouble for that. - We also have some news from Field Yates while we're still on inside the NFL. Field Yates reporting with his dislocated shoulder field. - He was on the show yesterday. - Yeah, feels great. The Browns have restructured the contract the quarterback Deshawn Watson and have converted 44.79 million of his base salary into a signing bonus, which creates 35.8 million dollars in new cap space. Wow. They must have some plans. Cleveland now has 62 million in cap space most in the entire NFL. - All right, that is interesting. - There you go. - Are they gonna be good? I mean, are they gonna be great? - They're roster. - Are they gonna be great? But it depends on the quarterback. - Yeah, doesn't it? That defense was great last year for much of it. They could be really, really good if that quarterback performs. - There you go. We will play deal breakers on a deal breakers Thursday top there at nine. Next. - Here's to Dave's headline, headline with Captain J. Hood. - Cubs did something that no team out of almost 1,200 games has done in the past seven years 1,192 and 0 over the last seven years to yesterday when the Cubs came from seven runs down and going to the seventh inning at Pittsburgh. They scored two in the seventh, three in the eighth sixth and the ninth win it 14, 10 again, no team. Had done that in the last seven years, it was 1,192 and all Cubs get the day off today. Start a series in the nation's capital against the Nationals on Friday, White Sox were swept in a double header by the Texas Rangers. The second game had it all. Linine Sosa, game tying hit, Linine Sosa on the throw down from the catcher in warmups before the eighth inning. Wasn't paying attention to cut the ball right between the eyes, literally right at the top of the nose. It had trainers and personnel on the field. He did stay in the game, made the final out. The Sox had a chance to walk it off on an Andrew Vaughn three run home run and the bottom of the night, Travis Jankowski went five feet over the top of the wall, leaning into the bullpen and brought it back to save the game. Rangers sweep the series and the Pittsburgh Steelers have announced Justin Fields is not going to win the competition. Russell Wilson will be their opening day starter at quarterback J-board. (upbeat music) Follow Chicago's home for sports on Twitch at ESPN 1000 Chicago. Captain J. Hood are back on Chicago's home for sports. ESPN Chicago. We all have to make choices in sports and in life. It could be running on third down. You ran the same third down situation and you ran the same plate twice. You're getting paid for that. I cannot believe the call. We're managing finances. This country, you gotta make the money for it. Or it could be a deal breaker. Deal breakers a Shay Norlin creation. Here's Shay. All right, let's get started. Your teenage son has been helping out the neighbor by cutting their grass every week for $20. Nice job for a teenage kid. Make 20 bucks, a little spending money. Gets back from this one day and tells you that the neighbor has gotten a little demanding. Asking for landscaping work, moving, mulch, replanting the plants out in the front yard. Basically, asking this kid to do a full landscaping job on his lawn every week, still only paying $20 for all of this extra work. Your son tells you, let's tell this guy kick rocks. Like, leave me alone. I'm not doing anything for you anymore. What advice are you giving him? - Ask for more money? Right? Yeah, just ask for more money. - How much more money? - Full landscaping, you better be paying me at least a hundred bucks. - I was about to say that. That's what I said, 100 bucks. - Wait, how big is the property? - Half acre. - Half acre's a big property. Now, I don't live on half an acre. I live in a little company. - They're living an acre. - Yeah, you bet. - 100 bucks. - 100 bucks. - Yeah. - Yeah, full landscaping. So you want me trimming the hedges and you want me cutting the grass and you want me edging everything? - Oh, more than a hundred dollars. - I think that's a good number. - I got to keep that cut my grass up in Wisconsin. He charted and it's a nice piece of grass. He cut me just the grass and a riding mower. - Yeah, yeah. - 50 bucks. - Oh, there's a lot. - So, all right, at least a hundred, but that's the number I'd land on for a teenager. I think that's a good number. - What if the guy says he doesn't want to pay you anymore? - Well, then you say kick-cross. - Yes. - I'm off, dude. I'm not doing your law anymore. - Yeah, you get paid for what you work. $20 was good for the smaller job, but yeah, it's got to be a hundred. - Yeah. - Okay. - No deal. - All right, I have a friend who's going through a bit of a rough time because he is a die-hard college football fan. He's just like me. Saturdays are sacred, spends all day watching the games every Saturday in the fall, and there are certain days that we know are a bigger deal than others. He's also just started dating a new girlfriend. They're official, it's Facebook official, it's a real relationship. She is planning a trip for the two of them, the weekend of October 12th. If you're unaware, that is the same day as Ohio State versus Oregon, two versus three, Texas versus Oklahoma, LSU versus Ole Miss, and Penn State versus USC. It's one of the biggest days on the college football calendar. His new girlfriend's planning a trip, the two of them to go out of town and have a good time together that same weekend. He texts me, how do I get out of this? - Okay, how serious is he with the girlfriend? - Pretty serious, he's kind of dated around a lot, and now he's official with somebody. This is something he wants to go into for the long haul. - Okay, I have the answer. He's honest with her, such a surprise, right? He's honest with her, but you can't be pulling it every time. Like, he can go to the well when you need to, but he can't be doing it a bunch of times early in the relationship. So, just be honest, I really want to be here for this game, I want to go to the game, whatever, but you can't be doing that every week. So, if you want to use your get out of jail free card, go ahead and do it, but be honest. - Okay, so she planned a trip how long ago? She's planning it right now. - They're in, it's in, yeah. - Yeah, she's planning the trip weekend of October 12th. She works a lot, she's out of town a lot, she travels for business. So, she's out of town a lot of weekends in the fall. This is one of the few weekends that she has where they can do something together. I kind of think he's just screwed. - I do not, because if that had been the situation, and I'm with Mindy, Mindy and I have this type of relationship, she was planning a trip for us, which she's done. I would say, hun, we can do this, but on Saturday, like who's playing? - It's Ohio State, Oregon, Texas, Oklahoma, LSU, Ole Miss and Penn State USC. - Okay, it's for premium games. - Yes, Saturday is one of the greatest days in college football in the last 10 years. I'll do what you want, we can fly out Thursday night, go to dinner and then Friday would do whatever you want. We gotta find a bar and on Saturday, like a cool place. We're gonna watch football all day. You gotta be all in with me. Like my wife does that on March Madness. We are literally at a place at 11 a.m., and we don't leave until like nine at night. Can I tell you something, I'm facing this a little bit. I'm planning a November vacation, and it looks like it could hit right when the Bears play the Packers, the first division game. - Can't do it. - I know, I either won't do it or do what you just said. Honey, we gotta find it. - Is it just the two of you? - Yeah, just the two of us right now. - So you stream the game right on your own course. - Right, right, but the point is we're addressing it. We're addressing it. So I think Cap and I are giving some advice you normally wouldn't do. Be honest with your partner. Be honest with your partner. - Normally wouldn't do. - We wouldn't do that. - Are you just lying to your wife all the time? - Well, if it's an important game, honey, I don't feel good. I can't go to the track today, Jessie, with Edzo and Cap. - I lost 50 bucks, I can't go to the family reunion, my stomach's hurting a little bit. - That's come up. - No, but look, if he says that to her, I'm all in to go away with you, and I'm really glad that we've moved our relation to the next level. The one thing is Saturday's one of the great days in college football and a decade or more. I gotta watch the games. I want you to be with me, let's find a cool place where we're going and we can do it. If she says, absolutely not, I wanna go wayle watching. Then he's with the wrong person. - Yeah, the problem is it's early in the relationship. You and I, exactly. We've been with our wives for a while. It's early, so he has to tread carefully. I say be honest, but you can't every other week be saying I wanna watch college football. - You have to be honest and then say, she goes, no, no, we're going to swim at the dolphins and then I wanna go to the botanical gardens. - No, that's not gonna happen. - So you're saying he's with the wrong person if she won't understand that? - If she says it, that's ridiculous. I don't understand how you wanna watch football. That's who I am, and if that is gonna be a problem, then we may be the wrong people for each other. - That's interesting. I don't know if I wanna take it to that traumatic conclusion. - So you're gonna roll over and just play-- - No, I wanna make a compromise. I gotta-- - I gave you a compromise. - Well, yeah, but I'm saying you have to include the fact that this won't happen every time we go on vacation or wanna do something. I think you need to make that clear-- - You don't know that. - You gotta make it clear she's a priority over college football in some sense. - I'm telling her that. This is-- - Hey. - We're gonna fly out Thursday afternoon. Let's grab, find a cool place for dinner Friday. Let's do whatever you wanna do. - I got a problem with that. - And then Saturday, we're getting up and I wanna put game day on. We got all the games. I want you with me, let's find a good place to do this. - You can skip game day. Okay. - Come on. - You can skip game day. - While you're getting runny on the TV. (laughing) - I can't go without singing the punter and coach save and make their picks on it. - I need McAfee's take on the game, honey. We can't go to breakfast. - The early in the relationship part is difficult. And I've been there. Early-- - Hold on a second. Hang on, Shay. - He's gonna answer a phone call live on the air. - And so do you not know we're on the air? - Did you take a shot at me? Was that a shot? Did I get it? - There was a shot. We gotta go. We're on the air. - Okay, okay. - That was not a shot, was it? - You know what? Officially, right now, you are blocked. - Oh, oh, thank you, thank you. - Thank you, Enzo. (laughing) - All right, that's a great idea. - That was a good one. - Tom Thayer at nine, we'll be right back. (dramatic music) - Follow Chicago's Home for Sports on Twitter at ESPN1000. Cap and Jay Hood are back on ESPN Chicago, Chicago's Home for Sports. (dramatic music) - More deal breakers. - Let's say it early. - All right, this is based off of something I heard Sylvie say earlier this week about being early in a relationship. - You're on a first date with a woman, invited to come to your place for a drink after dinner. She comes over, asks if she can use your facilities and drops an absolute five alarm number two deuce. Sylvie says this is disrespectful. Is this disrespectful, or is this just, look, when you gotta go, you gotta go. - I mean, you gotta go, you gotta go. - You gotta go, I mean, you prefer not to, but what can you do? Like, nobody wants to do that on a date, but what can you do? - Kick her out. Sylvie talked about if a girl comes over and drops a two in his bathroom first time over, it's disrespectful. - It's not disrespectful. - What if her stomach's bothering her? - No, no woman wants to do that. They just, if you have to go, you gotta go, so no. - No man wants to do that either. - That's the wrong word, disrespectful is the wrong word. Awkward might be the word, not a deal, not disrespectful. - Not a deal. - You have to go to the bathroom, how's that disrespectful? - No, if I take her out, like, for coffee, and she's like, can I get three shots at Kila too? - That might be a little bit of a warning. - Or if I take her out, she has the bathroom and never returns, that's disrespectful. - That's disrespectful. She got wasted and we were not out to get wasted. - It teaches me on a date, that's not that's ever happened. That's disrespectful, but not, not going to the bathroom. - No, I thought it was absurd. - Sylvie's talking about, like, this is some unforgivable sin. - It was just the wrong word. It's not, either, disrespectful is the wrong word to use. - Correct. - So, no, not a deal breaker. - I think this last one might be a deal breaker for you, Capy. - Uh-oh. - There's a story in the news I saw this week. A man's mother decided to start an OnlyFans page. (laughing) - Key films all of her scenes. - Here, Jay Moore laughing in the background. - They did an interview with this guy who films all of his mother's OnlyFans scenes. He said, "Doesn't see anything wrong with it. "It's just a normal job. "I get paid, I get a cut of what she makes on the page." - Well, how graphic is the OnlyFans page? - Use your imagination. - That doesn't even matter. - Come on, could you film your mother's OnlyFans scenes? - I can't say no strong enough, I really can't do that. - Maybe. (laughing) - Absolutely. There has to be another job I can find. That's a no, that's a deal breaker. - That hurt this. - Mom, you're on your own. - What? - Mom, you're on your own. - Okay, what if you were 21 and your mom was 36 and smoked hot? - Let's do a little math here. Mom had me when she was 15. - Right, that's what I'm saying. - Mom, let's make some better decisions. Holy smokes. - And mom was smoking hot. What would that make a difference to me? - It's a job and she's gonna make a serious point. - Okay, under that scenario, someone else is going to be able to film her. Okay, she's gonna find someone else. (laughing) - Like what if mom's got the fake cannons? - Oh my God. - That's a whole deal. - I knew it. - Yeah. - What is going on here? - Deal breaker, that is one. - You know what kind of cash could be flowing in? - Why? - I don't disagree with that. - Probably a lot. - Honey, you have to film it, ask for a gun anyway. - Right, I was about to say that. Like he should benefit anyway, he's her son. So if she's making a lot of money, he'll get the benefits without the awkwardness. - The benefits? - Well, of earning a lot of money. - I've heard of friends with benefits. I have not heard of mom's with benefits. - Now we've got it. Now we've gone down a hole. I don't want to come back from. - Wow. - Jesse, assume a huge pay raise to do this. Your only other option for a job is to cover 162 in the press box at guaranteed rate. - I would take guaranteed rate. - Four. - A third of the money. - Guaranteed rate. I draw the line at mom's. I'm sorry, just do. What if she said, I'm bringing it 50K a month, a month. And I'll split with you, 50, 50. Okay, I'll say this. If she was dressed like, you know, not scannily clad. Not scannily clad. If she was dressed, I don't own a business suit or something, I'd consider it. Right? What would you do? - Well, her. - Well, I'm saying, I mean, I'm not taking pictures of my scannily clad mom. (laughing) - She's in a business suit. She's not bringing in 25, 50K a month. - I'm giving you a month. - You should decide, Jesse. - I've been here and I have to have a vibrator and some other stuff. - Holy cow! - If she's wearing what she wears every day, 'cause I see her every day. Okay, maybe. - Nobody's paying for that. I don't care how long she is, Jesse. You answer the question. What would I need? What would you, what would you do? - For a lot of brands, toys. - 50,000, would you do it? Scannily clad. Scannily clad. - Well, you just said that's the only way to make money. - God, my mom was 87. - All right. - You put yourself in that age suit. - You just said 36. - Oh my God. - But look, if my mom had me and she was 15. - Yeah. - And she was smoking hot. - Jeez. - And we probably grew up like in a trailer party. - Think about what you were saying in here. - My factors would be a little different. - If my mom was smoking hot. Like think about what you're saying. - Oh God. - Wow. - Ah. - Ha ha. - Boy, that'd be a rough one. - Ah, honey, I have a friend coming over for today's shoot. I need you to film this post. - Okay, here I'll answer it this way. If you're trying to get me to say yes, there is a number that would get me to say yes. There is a number. - What's the number? - What if your mom's making a million dollars a year and she's splitting with you? - That might be the number. (laughing) - Gotta be a 50/50 cut. - If that's my full-time job and I'm making at least 500,000 a year at least, I mean, I would just kind of, can I close my eyes and take the picture? Like, I don't know. It might be, that might be my number, maybe. What about you? Do you have a number? - If she was bringing in north of a mill and I'm getting half. - Boy, it'd be tough to say no, yeah. - At 21. - Yeah. - Remember, we're 21. - Right. - A lot you can do with that money. - Ooh, your friend, Glory is coming over today. - Yeah, and then start a business. (laughing) - Hot moms, not only fans. - Pictures by the sons. (laughing) - Oh my God. - Jesse presents mom. - I don't. (laughing) - Oh, this is unbelievable. I hope my mom's not listening. It really weird. - Oh, okay. - I know my mom is-- - Right, but my mom could be listening. - So, anyway. - We will have a Thayer Thursday. We'll go from this fun to another kind of fun. We're Tom talks football with us and it's so enlightening. Thayer and I have to do, get this. Next Thursday, Shay, do you know what they are now doing? - They're doing something in a parking lot. No, where are you going? - Volleyball. - Volleyball. - We have the voices of the outdoor beach volleyball at North Avenue Beach. - Are you really? - For the great people like Jewel. - So, when you say voices of what is online TV, what is it? - It's there. - Oh, like the, okay, got it. Like, and look at dress guy. - Not even public address, we're doing a broadcast. - Okay. - And they want us, they said, "Think the guys in Dodgeball." That's what they were. - Oh, nice, that'll be fun. - So, that'll be great. Working with Tom, it'll be amazing. - Be a lawyer, reverent, you know, that kind of stuff. - Exactly, amazing. So, we'll talk football with the great Tom Thayer.