The Cārvāka Podcast

Canadian Socialism Is Weird

In this podcast, Kushal speaks with Clyde about Canadian Socialism with a special focus on the Canadian dairy and poultry industry.

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Duration:: 1h 29m
Broadcast on:: 28 Aug 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

Now as everyone welcome to the Charvok Podcast. This is Kushal Mehera. My guest today, before I actually welcome him officially, let me say a few nice things about Clyde. So, as I came to Canada two and a half years ago, I've been trying to understand Canadian issues and Canadian politics from my perspective. My perspective is, I don't know what my perspective is, I'm half Canadian, half Indian perspective. It's kind of a weird perspective. And recently, a few weeks ago, as I was digging into this entire immigration bit in Canada, I was not vocal about it, but I was just researching it for the last few years. I came across Clyde's channel through the YouTube recommendations and I really liked this content and then I reached out to Clyde and he was nice enough to call me on his channel and we had a couple of discussions at that time after the podcast was done, Clyde and I was just talking about Canadian economy and Clyde explained the entire dairy industry to me, just a bit of it and I was like, wait, what? This happens in Canada, so Clyde, thank you very much for coming and it's an absolute pleasure to host you, bud. Absolutely. Thank you so much. I really appreciate you inviting me here, it's always a pleasure talking with you. So this is your first time on the podcast because a lot of Indians are going to watch this. Maybe not right now because it's very early in the morning in India right now. It's seven a year in India right now, so it's very funny. One of my viewers has already said, go, who does the live stream at this time in the morning like a shell, but I don't realize like it's late night in Canada, so it's a good time for Canada, but your first time on the Charvuk podcast, so maybe you tell everybody a little bit about yourself, what work you do and then we can take it from there. So I'm a bit of an unusual case in Canada as well, I'm a dual citizen, so I don't go back and forth like you do. I'm not a snowbird at the moment, I'd love to be able to go just any time I'd like, but yeah, no, I live in Canada, a dual citizenship with the United States of America, which has always put me at kind of a strange circumstance growing up because there's this weird phenomena in Canada where I think it started with Justin Trudeau's daddy, Pierre Elliot Trudeau, where they made part of the Canadian identity is you're not American. It's like this love, hate relationship, you love to hate America or not hate so much, like you know your big brother that you just don't want to be too much like and you don't want people comparing you to except you grew up with a guy and you probably have all the same mannerisms and cultures and all of this stuff. So yeah, I tend to embrace my American side unlike some other Canadians, but yeah, so I got started on YouTube talking about the freedom convoy and that was really how things really popped off. I was doing other kinds of content, I was helping with back end stuff for other YouTube channels as well and the freedom convoy happened and here I was with a bunch of equipment, recording equipment and whatnot and I'm an automotive mechanic and I grew up in that industry, my brother is a truck driver, this is my life and I was watching all these brave people stand up against this federal government that was so tyrannical during the COVID years. I mean it's been tyrannical for a bunch of years, but most Canadians kind of just let it go and finally some people stood up and said no enough is enough and I was so proud of that moment that I said I can't not say anything, I'll hate myself forever if I don't just say something, I'll turn a camera on and I didn't think anyone was gonna watch, turns out a lot of people are interested in it. So I've been talking about these things ever since, I've got a mouth and I've got opinions and I'm not shy to share them. So I want to ask you this, we'll get to socialism because I think socialism is also part of the authoritarian mindset, at least where I come from and my experience from 2001 onwards in Canada is and because I've kind of travelled in both countries and stayed in both countries, the United States of America and Canada, is that basically Canada is what California is, in a way without the free speech. And without the good weather. Yeah and the large economy and the money. Yeah, a lot of the good things are not there, yeah that's right. But why do you think Canadians are so comfortable with this, I'm not saying that the level of authoritarianism in Canada is comparable to India before somebody starts to make those insinuations? No, I think India is way more authoritarian legally in terms of the constitutional framework and maybe one day we'll have a podcast on your channel where, well I'll scare Canadians enough about how these laws are being attempted in Canada. I did do a brief discussion with a journalist, I respect a lot. Another one I consider a friend, Jonathan Kay, and it was like the podcast is available on Collette and on my channel both, we discussed the hate speech motion that has been recommended by the Liberal government and how it's equivalent to India. But Canadians still, per capita, when compared to Americans, do have a love for authoritarianism. Why is it the case, where does it come from? Well I think it's a sense of security. So I mean I don't necessarily share that viewpoint, I guess that's my American side I mean I'm just like no, no, no, I want to breathe free, get off my lawn kind of thing. But Noah, I think what comes with this is cold weather. When you have a place that's so very cold, you used to months and months and months of just you can't grow crops, you can't do anything, you need some sort of security and it's easy to sell as a social safety net. When you have largely, you know, prior to recent times, largely homogenous, you know, state or largely homogenous demographic, and I don't mean necessarily homogenous in like an ethnic sense, but homogenous homogeneity of like world view, homogeneity of outlook and you know, you know, people wanting to stick around, all of these things have diminished over the past while, but people tend to, when they see the winter coming, they want some security and it's easy for people, politicians with socialist ideas to come in and tease them with these ideas. And it's an innate thing for a lot of people to just have trust when you know you haven't been really wronged that bad and Canada, I mean it forever, it was seen as the nation with good governance, you know, peaceful, good governance, everybody's friendly, and it's only until recently that we've seen a real heavy handed authoritarianism come into Canada. So I mean, yeah, people are, they're a little bit shy to tell people no, especially when they come in and say, well, this is for the greater good. They want to do the right thing, but I think, I think those days are coming to an end. So now, as far as Canadian businesses are concerned, before I get into the dairy industry, what is the story behind this high tax culture of Canada? Is it the British influence, do you think, because the United Kingdom does have a free health care system, I mean, free, it comes from all kinds? I think it's not like the British influence is there, also Scandinavian influence, then you know, we've been separated from Europe for a long time. So we look, we look longingly to Europe often, there's no, it's not like we have a tremendous shared culture there, but socialism has been something that's been dabbled into for a lot longer in Canada than, say, for example, United States of America, very staunchly against it in the United States of America for a majority of the people there. You might have like, you know, pockets in academia and liberal cities, that kind of thing. But in Canada, it's been more widely accepted, and I think it's because, you know, you see with the Scandinavian models, or at least a misconception of what the Scandinavian models are, this whole idea of a social safety net that'll take care of everybody, just in case things go wrong. And then it's the slow creep, the slow creep of, oh, just a little more, oh, just a little more, oh, just a little more, it's going to cost you a bit more for that. Oh, we're not going to actually give you those services unless you, you know, you're denied some other thing. And then, and here we are, we're at, we're at the point, and a lot of economists will call this like the laugh or curve, right, where you were getting to the point where you're at a precipice of being taxed too much, where you may actually see people not necessarily revolt, but check right out, like, for example, work under the table instead of working on the books, or work part time under the table, work part time on the books, only declare so much of your earnings, or perhaps move your business out of the country entirely, of yourself out of the country entirely, and you're seeing a lot of this lately. Why do you think average Canadian trusts the government so much more compared to the American? Like, I'll give you an example of the average. I can't relate with it, so I mean, it's hard, but you know what I'm talking about, right? The Canadian. No, I do. Yeah, because I see a lot of similarities between Canadians on, on average and Indians in India. Indians also trust the government, very high level of faith in the government. Yeah, I just, I don't agree with them, and this is why I have such a hard time with it. I've never trusted the government. I've always been on the side of, you know, the government's only there to grow bigger and get in your way and stick their hands in your pocket. But yeah, I think there has always been a high level of trusting Canada. Canadians have always known, you know, that politicians are kind of, they're kind of scummy. They're the type of people that will skim off the top, but largely they're not there to really screw everybody over. But yeah, we don't live in those days anymore. But we're not, we're not this sparse rule nation with just endless resources and not even enough people to utilize that anymore. Yeah, all right, let's get into the Canadian dairy industry. So how do we start, do we explain the structure of the dairy industry, and then maybe get into the nitty-gritty? How do you want to do this? Well, I think you've already gotten kind of gotten into it. So the idea behind it, and this is supply management, is the idea that, well, if the government doesn't get involved, then, you know, left to its own devices, the market could, you know, bankrupt farmers and farmers could have hard times and they might fall on a hard time. So what we're going to do is we're going to structure it in a way that, you know, they'll only supply so much here and there and they'll have quotas for when they can supply. And it becomes, it becomes this, for lack of a better word, a socialist structure of allocating resources without real price mechanisms. And essentially, it requires a government, a governmental body to do two things, determine how much milk is produced, and then also thwart any other businesses from coming in and competing with that market. So let me understand this. The Canadian government decides, on a yearly basis, the literal quantity of milk that is going to be produced in Canada, the government decides. So it's a governmental body that works with a lobby. And the lobby, incidentally, is, this is a really weird one because I had to, it took me a long time to get to the bottom of this and, you know, I've been interviewing people, talking with different people, trying to search out the information. Why is this such a strong lobby? I mean, at the end of the day, this lobby is deciding politicians. Like they can decide to prime minister of Canada, essentially. They have decided leaders of political parties. They have big upsets in the conservative parties years ago. Not even that many years ago, when Andrew Scheer ran as the leader of the opposition. So it's a cartel. It's set up like a cartel and it's in cahoots with government that they operate. So like, how do they operate? So I guess every year there is this agency that you've spoken about. They sit down, they do a market assessment. We have X number of people living in Canada. This is the year on year consumption of dairy or dairy products in Canada. So to keep this, this demand, we have to manufacture this much product. And this is so weird. I know where you're going with this. It sounds arbitrary, right? It sounds like how do they decide these things? And really, at the end of the day, it is arbitrary. And they decide it based on previous years, maybe the past quarter, for example. But a lot of times, they mess up. They make mistakes or they'll end up changing quotas. And some farmers will have to sell back and forth. Now, the stated goal for this lobby is to protect the farmers. And at the end of the day, it's not really protected the farmers. Because the small dairy farmers who would want to get into the industry, for example, it's become too expensive to even apply. You can't get into the industry unless you're already born into it. And so it's almost like a type of nepotism. If you know people, you can get into this industry. And then once you're in it, you'll be protected. And the insidious thing is, it really is just all on the backs of the consumer. So Canadians that have ever traveled anywhere else, they'll know that milk just doesn't quite taste the same everywhere else. I mean, well, in Canada, it doesn't quite taste the same as other places. Milk so much nicer, it tastes better. The cheese products are cheaper and much nicer. And yeah, there's a whole shortage when it comes to the consumer side of things. But this is why it's such an insidious thing. The dairy lobby makes sure that the people who are in that group, they'll always be paid. So even if there's a shortage, they'll just fix the price so the dairy industry is fine. But what ends up happening often is they produce too much and then they actually dump milk. Oh, so this is just like the scam in India. Is this a thing that's happening in India? Not in the dairy industry, but this sounds a lot like the minimum support price scam that runs in India in many crops. Like in Punjab, for example, there you go, there you go. There you go. In Punjab in India, where basically they have this fixed crop price, we call it the minimum support price and the minimum support price is kind of decided by in collusion with the farmers lobby and they keep on increasing the minimum support price and all governments do it. And then the minimum support price is such that farmers are incentivized to only manufacture crops that are under the MSP and the scam keeps running. It's a Ponzi scheme. So I have a link here. I have a link here and this clip went viral last year. And this was one farmer who actually came out and went public about this. This guy, his name was Jerry and he explains it. He explains it in the clip. You can pop it up, but he's upset because he's dumping so much milk. So do you want me to play it from the start or from this very spot? Yeah, it's not very long. Okay, I'll just play it. Quite a bit more milk because the feed is very consistent and as you do a good job, you will produce quite a bit of milk. So right now we're over our program. It's regulated by the government and by the king of gold. But the problem is, is what they don't understand. There's millions of people who look at this milk running away at the end of the month. So I have to doubt, I've got 30,000 litres of milk and it breaks my heart. I will show you, by the way, this here Canadian milk at seven dollars a meter. When I go for my haircut, people say, wow, seven dollars, Jerry, for a little bit of milk. I say, well, you have to go higher up because we have no say anymore as a dairy farmer on our own farm. Because they, they make a stump it. And no matter how we stand up, so this time I'm going public. I want the people to see the pain that growers have of 365 days. It's a little boy we grew up on a dairy farm. Came from Europe, work, work, work, and here we are. This is what's happening. Oh, by the way, only one country in the world here in Canada. There's not a United States, not Europe, where they dump thousands of litres when they're over. But we're not supposed to talk about this. Because, I don't know, it's just one of those things. But as is happening. Yeah, you can stop it there. So he's, yeah, he's gone, gone public with this. Now he's since gone pretty, pretty, radio silent. I heard claims that he's been threatened. No, I'm talking like the dairy lobby behaves like a mafia. That's what's crazy about it. And it's this openly kept secret in Canada that, again, they have all this power and all this influence. And yet, most people are like, what? Really? The dairy industry? You can't be serious. Why throw the milk? Why not sell it to other countries or other places? Convert this milk into other products and sell it across the world. This makes no sense. So it does make no sense. And of course, it would make a lot of sense if we were to make a market and put it out there so that we could have an outward selling dairy industry. But as soon as we have an outward selling dairy industry, we'd have to drop all the tariffs on the inward coming dairy industry, right? And this is where they don't want to do that. So it's a Canadian little tiny microcosm bubble. This goes outside of global trade or any of that stuff. They don't want global trade. They want to maintain this little bubble monopoly or oligopoly, whatever you want to call it, over the dairy industry, locally even to Canada. And it goes even so far as they won't even allow them to make powdered milk or baby formula, things like that. We even had a baby formula shortage a couple of years ago. And it was because of Nestle and a few other baby formula manufacturers from the United States that we buy our baby formula from had some health and safety issues. And it created a global shortage of these products. Meanwhile, we're dumping thousands and thousands, like hundreds of thousands of liters of milk. This makes no sense. If Canadians need baby formula, you don't need to buy it from America. Just use the damn milk. This is so stupid. It is stupid. It is stupid. It's just like most other things. And this is why I keep calling it creamy communism or milky Marxism. It comes from the origins or the idea of central authority. It sounds a lot like it, does it not? And you hear planned economies, these kinds of things. Yeah, managed supply is the name of the game. They want to manage the supply of it. And by managing the supply of it, the goal is to maintain stable prices of the milk. It's not very different from the same economic policies you saw during the Great Depression of, I believe Hoover, when they ordered farmers to till their fields over. Well, people were starving. They ordered people slaughter all of their cattle and all of their pigs and bury them while people were starving. And the reason why was because there was deflation in the prices. So they didn't want the farmers to lose money by not selling their product for very much. So the idea behind it was to get rid of the food. And it's so ludicrous and it doesn't make sense face value. But what it does is they're trying to create short-term solutions instead of even touching long-term solutions. This is classic protectionism. It is, it's mercantilism all over again from way back. Yeah, yeah. That's what it is. It's protectionism. This is ridiculous. And the funny bit is when the farmers' protest was happening in India, which was aided and abetted by Canadian calisthenies over here and funded. The funny thing is the Canadian government had the gall to actually try the Indian government to listen to the farmers when they carry out something far worse in their own backyard in Canada. This is ridiculous. I find it hilarious. It gets even worse, Khrushchev. It's so bad that last January, the British government walked away from trade negotiations with the Canadian government over cheese tariffs that we have. I'm not joking. It sounds so funny, but it's ridiculous because we're originally a colony of Britain. And we never really separated. We asked, please, nicely, can we at least make our own paper money and stuff? But we separated from Britain, and then now we can't even negotiate trade with them because we have a cartel going on in our own tiny little economy. This is fascinating because let me talk to you about there's this cooperative model, which is a company in India called Amul. And they basically have a three-tiered structure of cooperative societies. So how it is small farmers in India who might have a single cow or two cows or three cows or ten cows or fifteen cows, they have created this cooperative model where they have to maintain their cows to a certain quality standard. Amul actually does it very well. They check it and they collect their milk. Amul has collection centers with facilities which Amul invests in. In villages in India, like even a village with a population of 1000 people, 200, 2000 people, 5000 people, they will have infrastructure invested in and around that area. How I came to know about it is actually when I had worked with a member of parliament back home in adopting two villages, we actually tried to set up an Amul center. And then in trying to set up an Amul center for the villages, we found out all the requirements and then we gave them the space and how Amul got the infrastructure there. And then villages, you know, they bring, they have their quality testing parameters. They test the milk. It doesn't matter. You could bring 10 liters of milk too. You can bring it daily. Amul will buy it if you meet the quality parameters. And then they will freeze the milk collected and it gets distributed on a daily basis. Every villager has to have a bank account and Amul pays those villages. Amul has a fixed price. I remember when I was working, I think the price was like 25 rupees, Indian rupees a liter or something. And it's such a fascinating system where even the small farmer is so empowered. And in fact, the Amul model in India is kind of discussed globally. And you know, the people running it actually give presentations across the world. And I'm just thinking like here, the small Canadian farmer is not even allowed to enter the daily industry because no, you can't do that. No, no, you'd have to have millions of dollars. I mean, just the infrastructure alone, everything that would be required for you, just so you can meet the quotas. Because if you can't meet the quotas, you cannot enter the marketplace. And that's the whole point is making sure that people meet these quotas. And then in the process of trying to meet the quotas, sometimes, you know, there's a lot of feed, the weather changes, something like that. And then milk stone, you know, cows don't stop producing milk. If the dairy board says, we want you to cut back your short, your production, they just keep producing. And these are the moments when they're forced to dump it down the drains. And you can't just release it onto the market, go behind the dairy cartel. I mean, if you understand how cartels work, and it's, you know, from a market perspective, the only way a cartel can work is if, you know, two or more players in a business, in a market share, try to fix the market share so that they can all, you know, benefit, you know, screw the customer over, raise the prices, whatever have you. But the problem with that is that they'll always at some point try to undercut each other. So in lieu of undercutting each other or to stop each other from cutting, undercutting each other, they go to the government and they say, hey, government, you, you have a monopoly of violence. Why don't you make sure that we keep our agreement of screwing the customer over and fixing prices? This is how cartels work. Yeah, but it's unbelievable that, you know, for a country like Canada who prides itself of being, you know, having empathy towards this, the underdog would actually screw over the underdog in this scenario, which is the small father, a small daddy farmer. That's the real underdog. Well, this is the crazy part about it because if you talk to people about it, you'll either get a really, you know, vehement in support of the dairy industry response or a very negative response of what the dairy industry is doing. And typically farmers that are in good graces with the dairy lobby, so they get their quotas and they get their paycheck, they never ever want to speak ill about it. And of course, they'll speak very nicely about it because people will actually be threatened over this. Like, this is a serious thing. So, you know, don't rock the boat is sort of the way things go and just keep those checks coming in. So a lot of these farmers that are in the lobby, they're doing quite well, and everybody else just doesn't want to enter the market. So it's a really, really fascinating scenario of, you know, if, for example, the dairy lobby were to go away overnight because of how dependent the farmers are that are in the industry and how expensive it would be to meet regulations, it would destroy the dairy industry entirely if the market were to open up overnight. Nobody would survive it and we would just only have American milk and cheese in the country. So compared to America, how does the American industry work? Do they have protectionism? I know they have protectionism in a lot of their agriculture when it comes to corn and stuff like that. America does subsidize their agriculture and their farmers, but how have you done comparative analysis of the American dairy industry in that sense? So apparently, there are some places that have it, and it's like a state-by-state or municipality-by-miniscibility sort of structure, but there's no national U.S. dairy farming cartel or anything like that, not like in Canada. Now in Canada, it's split up between, you know, I think there's the Quebec area and East of Quebec. Ontario is a large part of that and then Western Canada. There are different sectors of this dairy enterprise, but it's largely that. And then there's other ones that are included in there, and that's the poultry and a few other products, but dairy is the big, big one with the big quotas. All right, and is there no resistance against this in the Canadian political discourse? Like nobody dares touch it, whether the Conservatives or the Liberals or the NDP. You know, the plan is the sacred cow, right? And it technically is. It's a sacred cow. Maxime Bernier lost his career as a conservative politician, if you know who he is. Maxime Bernier, he was running against Andrew Sheer, who was a relatively unknown politician at the time of the of the leadership race. This was a number of years back. You may remember Andrew Sheer running against Justin Trudeau and losing miserably because everyone's like, who's this guy? We don't, it's not even that palatable. Well, it was Maxime Bernier who was saying he was going to get rid of the dairy cartel. He was going to get rid of the dairy lobby. And so they used all the power that they had to boost up this Andrew Sheer guy, get him in. And there's a famous picture. And I'll send you, I'll send you an article with the photograph. It's it really is something else to see. Andrew Sheer sipping drinking out of a carton of milk right after we pull this. I got to get the image. I have it right. That's interesting. Yeah, it's bizarre. Okay, I'll get you the image shortly. Oh, here it is. So this was right after the event. As he was accepting the nominee for the conservative leadership, he got up and he cracked open a carton of milk and he drank it in front of the audience. Okay, that's so weird. I just saw them. It's absolutely absurd. It's absurd, but this is the this is the power that the dairy lobby actually has. That is so weird. I've never seen a politician's career if they go against him. I mean, I've seen weird things in India, but this is weird by Indian standards also. Welcome to Canada. There's some weird stuff happening here. Yeah, it's like this is like a mafia. You know, the funny thing like mafia is usually like liquor and drugs and yeah, right in Canada. Yeah, the dairy mafia. Did they kill you by milk? That's by milk. Not not not like drugs or illegal substances or narcotics. It's milk. I know as I was digging into this, I'm like, what is this? What are we doing in Canada? Because I only I only started looking into it because I heard about supply, you know, supply management. To me, that sounded a lot like, you know, central planning. Like I I'm very much against this whole is a concerted effort in recent years to to move towards more of like, you know, a Maoist communist movement. And whether you call it a Mao or neo Mao, I don't know what you would call it. A new modern communist push. Some people calling it fascism. Maybe communism with cows. Yes, it's the it's like creamy communism, right? And I, you know, flags went off, right? When I when I heard this supply management, what? Why would we be doing that? That's that's economically bad business. So why would we want to do that? And the more I'm looking into it, the more it looks like just it looks more like just blatant corruption. Then it does like a push towards socialism in that sense. But that's that's really where it came from. The the idea of we have the perfect comment from a live your communism. Okay, I like that. So but but this is a thing that that's a huge concern. Because I think we're we're far enough removed from the the era of the red curtain, you know, when when China was overtaken by communism, the Soviet Union was overtaken by communism. And it was it was very much a fearful thing for a lot of people in the West. We don't want communism coming in. It's terrible. And then, you know, years go by the communism sort of subsides. And this socialism runs in through, you know, Scandinavian countries and some other places in the world, even full-blown communism, like we saw in Venezuela. But there's a for some people, especially like in an academic circles or even in the end, entertainment industry, there's a certain allure to the the mentality of, well, why don't we all just share everything? And why don't we just move towards this? And how about, you know, we we start making measures to go in these directions. And even saying that the, you know, the Scandinavians were successful in their own right, which if you go to some of these Scandinavian countries, you'd realize that it's not very much like communism at all, more a particular tax base that only taxes themselves and or they only beneficiaries from that and in their in their, you know, groups and neighborhoods, that kind of thing, they don't tax the, you know, the fuel industry or things like that to to get this. Whereas in this new sort of this new socialism, this new, you know, Western Marxism is more it's it goes back to the idea of let's let's let's get the guy that's got all the money, you know, like something out of an iron ran novel we're seeing. And it's creeping more and more into Canadian politics and more and more into just the mindset of Canadians like why do I have to do this hard work when somebody else has a whole bunch of unearned profits, you know, and not actually like an economic illiteracy that we have across the board in Canada. And it's leading it's leading the government to have carte blanche to make some really, really dangerous, I'd say decisions because people just don't know any better. And here's one of the here's one of the more recent ones. Here's Justin Trudeau, just the other day, making an announcement, you know, because Pierre Pauliev has been saying, I'm going to sell off all this government land so people can build houses on this land. Trudeau has a different idea. Oh my god, this guy, let's just say your honourable prime minister does not have a lot of fans in India. That's good. We should bring more of those people here. Yeah, so let's listen to him. Here's something we can all agree on. We need more housing in Canada, but that the government should step up and make sure that housing gets built. That's where some people disagree. Take federal lands, land that's owned by the federal government that isn't being used anymore. The Conservative Party leader wants to sell it all off to make a quick buck. That does nothing for you. The federal government owns tons of land in cities and towns across the country. You can build a lot of homes on those lands, so that's what we're going to do. We're offering up that public land for housing, and we're not just going to sell it all to developers, we're going to long-term lease it. See, by leasing the land, we get to work with communities to make sure that home builders are building the right homes. Homes you can afford. We've got land, we've got lots of houses to build, so that's exactly what we're going to do. Oh my god, this guy's crazy. Yeah, it's the Chinese Communist model. This man is mental. He wants to build houses. The government is going to build houses. Oh my god. How did I miss this? It was just the other day. It was just a day before yesterday, and it's insane. It's insane. The level of totalitarian creep that's happening in Canada, where they're just- Do you have some real houses? This is so stupid. Yes. And it's the hubris of people like this to come in and mess everything up, because he's come in, he's messed the economy up, like nobody's business. And then what's his answer to that? Instead of saying, oh, maybe I'll step down, or just even get out of the way, he's like, I'm going to come in and fix this for you. Oh my god, this is so stupid. This is just like the immigration scam. First you let you know all millions of people in, and then like, oops, why did we let so many people in? You decided to do that. They did it. It's housing land, non-industrial land, housing land. And what's crazy about this is we actually live on the tiniest amount of livable land in Canada. There is so much land that's available, but most of it is what's called crown land. So it's government-owned property that they just will not open up. They refuse to open up to private ownership. Do they think the real estate market will crash and the real estate lobby doesn't want that? And you know who controls real estate here? I know that. I know many groups who control real estate here, many become real estate. Wow. So there's a big vested interest in making sure that real estate does not crash in Canada. But it's going to. It's just a matter of when. I mean, and a lot of people say, well, you know, real estate never goes down. It's never gone down since the Great Depression. Well, it went down in the Great Depression. It sure went down. Now, real estate has never also gone up the way it's gone. It's really ridiculous. Where in your average, like I live in a small town and townhouses, you can't buy one for under a million dollars in a small town. People are priced completely out of the market. And then other people are, you know, people who bought into the market way long ago, they're either, you know, equity rich, and they're doing fine at the moment. And the government's encouraging them to take out lines of credit to spend all that equity. Or they're, you know, in the crunch and they're paying huge interest rates at the at the time now. Now, you shouldn't think that four, four and a half percent is a huge interest rate. But you only will if you're in an economy like it is today, where, you know, wages are stagnated. The amount of money people are making is completely stagnated. But the government is spending so much money on this this false idea that in to avoid recession, you stimulate the economy. And this is this is Trudeau's thought since day one, when he said, when he was asked in the campaign trail before in 2014, what are you going to do to grow the economy? He said, well, we'll we'll stimulate the economy. And or how are you going to balance the budget? He says, we'll stimulate the economy, the economy will grow, and then the budget will balance itself. He just thinks that it's this, you know, John Maynard Keynes theory that just inject liquidity into the market and everything will balance out. Trickle down, basically, right? Well, yeah, it's, yeah, it's this, it's this idea that deficit spending will get you out of a hole. Otherwise known as the the broken window fallacy, the idea that, you know, you you break a window and it'll create economic activity all over the place. People are going to be doing all kinds of work to get that window repaired. At the end of the day, you're still out a window instead of instead of what? Instead of doing what? We should be doing other things. We should be doing things. Yeah, it's not productive. It's not productive. This is like, you know, I could create employment. If I banned shovels and I gave people spoons, so I need more people to dig. So, you know, ban shovels that that's good. But then you'll end up with lots and lots of spoons in no time. And what do you do with all those spoons? Now you got to hire somebody to dispose of them. But why why is it the job of the government to build houses? Tell that landoff. I actually agree with the conservative party leader here. Just sell that landoff, have a transparent auction where different real estate developers bid for a price based on the market available. And they build according to the the construction norms are already there. And all this money that the government makes from selling government land could be used in productive activities, which would help the average Canadian and and I think the housing would be built much more faster. And overall, real estate, how can the real estate so so the underlying so we're already at our maximum capacity for building in Canada. And based based on our yearly averages, we can we can produce about 230,000 homes in a year. That's what our construction base can do. And that doesn't it probably to your Indian audience. It sounds like that's astronomically low. We're a small country of 40 million people. We only hit 40 million recently. And actually those numbers are actually dwindling because there's less people going into the construction trades, these kinds of workforce. People are getting into other things, maybe not wisely, but they're they're going into other things instead of that. So we have we have a retiring workforce coming in. So our our ability to supply this demand is dwindling every year. It's it's astronomically ridiculous. Well, everybody's busy getting those diplomas in Brampton. Yeah, above a massage parlor in Brampton, Ontario. No, I know it's crazy. It's crazy. And the the immigration thing is actually a symptom of a of a larger socialist issue. This idea of social insurance that when you retire, the government will be the ones to take care of your pension. They'll hold on to it and they'll pay you out. Now, that's a Ponzi scheme, like like any other Ponzi scheme. It's a pyramid. And the way it works is you, you know, first depositors come in, you pay those first depositors with the next depositors, but you're going to need more of the next depositors in order to pay it off and and skim off the top. So every generation, you need a bigger, bigger, bigger group of individuals paying the taxes in order to support the people that are surviving and and living off these these pensions. And not to mention, as as you know, survivability increases, you know, your your average age has gone up since the days that social insurance first came around and pensions. So now we need more and more growth. And this this is a misnomer. And this is what it's it's a Band-Aid, this whole idea of unfettered and open immigration. It's a Band-Aid on a bigger problem. And that's no politician will stand up in front of the Canadian people and say, we cannot deliver on the promises that we've made. Now, what I find very interesting is I don't remember the exact number, but I was looking because it's been years now, where I was looking at the Scandinavian Social Security model, where how they manage it is they have very low corporate tax rates. So what they do is they have very high income tax rates, personal tax rates, but very low corporate tax rates. So the idea is people keep their money invested in the business. And if and when individuals make higher amounts of money, they have a progressive taxation system. And the highest slab gets the highest income tax. And the idea for the Social Security network to work was that at least 80 to 85% of the society has to be paying income tax regularly for that model to work, where a Scandinavian country now have started to struggle off late as a their birth rates had started to fall. So a lot of people, by essentially the boomers in Scandinavia, they had they are leaving the workforce. So the pool of people paying taxes in terms of income tax to maintain the Social Security network is slightly reducing. They tried to cover it up by getting immigrants in. And they just got the wrong immigrants. I don't know how to say it other than saying they got the wrong immigrants. And now they have a social cohesion problem. And now to deal with the social cohesion problem, they stopped immigration in a lot of these governments changed in Sweden, in Denmark, in many other places. And now, okay, they they may temporarily halt the social cohesion problem. But it still doesn't solve the problem that they have created this monster of Social Security, which needs to be fed, when certain people are paying income taxes. I don't believe it's going to be very different in Canada, where Canada from all, you know, for all the research that I've done has a dwindling number of baby boomers who are going to be there in the Canadian job market. Now, all these baby boomers are going to start exiting the job market from the year 2028. A lot of these baby boomers who are actually skilled people like you client, people who have a certain skill, who are tradesmen, who are auto mechanics or construction workers, and many of the people who actually have maintained the backbone of Canadian society, who have held this society together. If these people go and you have diploma mills, while you can actually get talented people from, I understand Canadians don't have children. And that trend is not going to change. I was looking at birth rates of Canadians, it's it's way below replacement rate. So the only thing that can save Canada or any of these western nations is actually immigration. But the point is not immigration being evil. And this is part of the larger socialist paradigm, where authoritarians think they need to save people and authoritarians then make bad decisions and then they just destroy the society. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because they think that they're doing the right thing. You know, the road to hell is paved in good intentions. This is the whole idea. Well, those, you know, those people who wouldn't be able to take care of themselves if it wasn't for our, you know, omnipotence and making this, this social security scheme. But it's actually a social security scheme that's causing all the trouble. So you've always hear that magic 4% number, you may need 4% growth year over year. Well, that is what the 4% number is. If they don't have 4% growth in population and in economy, well, then they won't be able to pay back these depositors that put their money in for the social security, because they're not putting social security in to some fund. It hasn't been there for 60, 80 years collecting more money. They're spending it goes right into general, general revenue. It's ridiculous. And people don't see it for what it is, but it literally is a Ponzi scheme. And the only real way out of it is to come clean with people and say, listen, growth, growth is kind of coming to an end. And you're going to see this too in other countries. So yes, the Western world is sort of, you know, slowing down on growth. But this is a phenomena that that's happening across the planet. Yeah. Anywhere where you find prosperity, you see birth rates go down. And this is just an inherent thing with human beings that if we're struggling, we're just going to make lots of kids, because lots of kids will help out with the family, be able to help out uncle and help out granny and till the farms or whatever, whatever people have to do to survive. But once you start doing well economically, people start thinking, ah, well, I don't know if I can afford to have so many kids, I'm going to slow down. And this happens. And you're going to see this even in countries like India, you know, projected way out, you're probably 2050, you're going to start seeing a negative growth in the population of the country. Yeah, I would say that that makes sense. Look at China right now. They actually exacerbated that with the one child policy back in the 70s and 80s. Let me show you something. Let me show you're going to just to back you up completely. Let me show you this figure. This is the Chinese kindergarten's close as birth rates drop. Oh, wow. Look at both public and private, both are dropping. I just wanted to back you up with actual housing. You're just 100% right. You have hit the nail on the head. Yeah. And this is going to be a global phenomenon. I mean, the Western world can't always get immigrants from other countries. It's not always going to work because other countries are going to start, you know, losing population. And they're their local governments. Whoa, whoa, we need to keep people. And then what are they going to do? They support putting walls up where people can't escape. I mean, it's going to be Berlin walls all over the place. Like it's it's already a discussion in India. And that's crazy because people forget what the Berlin wall was for. It was in communist Germany. It wasn't there to keep people out of communist Germany. People weren't going there because it was a great communist utopia. They had to trap the people in. Now, this is why people are concerned about things like digital IDs and and central bank digital currencies, because that is the new Berlin wall. That is the thing that will keep you from jumping the border because people won't people won't want to leave with nothing in hand. Yeah. And most people don't realize this when I tell them the story about India is right now Indian. India just our birth rates are just above the replacement rate right now in India. And they are reducing at a very fast rate. It's just that right people think, Oh, India has 1.4 plus billion people. And oh, there are so many they must be you know, Indian birth rates are falling away fast. Even Indian Muslim birth rates are falling the fastest now because they had the highest and now their their birth rate is falling the fastest. So India is going to flat line in another 10 15 years. Then we'll have a plateau decade where basically our population will pretty much remain there and thereabouts. And then from 2050 onwards, our population is going to go into a steady decline in India. Now the average age of India right now, if I remember correctly is 27 or 28 years, let me let me check it. You know, I don't want to miss court. Yeah, 28.4 is the average age right now. In the next two decades, this age is going to rise. India is going to be like 33, 34. China already is 37, 38. What are we going to do with all these old people? The entire planet is going to rely on Africa because Africa is the only place right now on planet earth that has the highest birth rates. So you know, people are angry at international students from India right now. In two decades, they're going to be angry at international students from Africa. Well, hopefully we're not running schemes like this. Now in Canada, it's crazy. It was a UN report that came out and said that there is slavery in Canada because of the scams that are going on with Indian workers, particularly from the area of Punjab that are being scammed by locals in Punjab to come to Canada, go to these, go to these, you know, mills, you know, diploma mills, and they get no experience. They don't learn any, you know, no good cultural enrichment. There's no language exchange. They're in there with a bunch of other people from the same area that they're from, duped into it, and then they get stuck where they're in a situation where they can't go back home and they need to get a job. So they get scammed even further into what they call LMIA scams. And these are, these are labor market assessments. Yeah. Yeah. And these, these, this is the way the government, you know, justifies hiring people from outside of the country to fill positions because the company will say, we can't find anyone. And the, the, the requirements have been so low for, for burden of proof to show that you can't find any Canadians that they don't even try. They just apply for these market assessments, these LMIA's, and they get them. They pay about $1,000. And then what they do is they turn around and they sell them to these Indian students for upwards of $50,000 on loan so that they can get an entry level position working at Tim Hortons or someplace. And they have to work off this loan. It's indentured servitude. It's ridiculous. And this is happening in Canada. Yeah. So Toronto Star just did this report. I think it was today. So this is a direct quote from the article, a long time ESDC employee. This was only out because this employee decided to speak up. Obviously, he's anonymous or she is anonymous. On the front line of labour market impact assessment processing told the star that as the TFW program ballooned and businesses were allowed to hire more and more workers, checks that curved fraud in the program have been eroded prioritizing speed over scrutiny. Obviously, the person was anonymous. And this is the killer. On the black market, LMIA is used to cost somewhere between 10,000 to 15,000 Canadian dollars here. I said, now these workers are paying 70,000 to 80,000 to consultants and employees for LMIA's. And when they come to Canada, they realize the job doesn't exist. Connolly said migrant workers whose permits are tied to a single employer will often put up with court terrible treatment out of fear of retaliation by their employer, which would cost them their job and therefore their status. This so you know what I find insane and you're actually right. This is all incentivized because of the Canadian government socialist mindset. And socialism breeds all these problems. And and the irony is that I saw this video of some random St. Clair College student class, a bunch of them were failed because I guess they do not do well in a class. And they're making a video talking about the problems in Punjabi. I'm like, who are you addressing this to? Like Canada speaks English or French. Why are you making the video in Punjabi? If you need the sympathy of the average Canadian, you should be speaking in English. So there are only two logical conclusions here. A, you can't speak English. So if you can't speak English, why the hell are you in Canada? That is point number one. I don't mind. You can live in India. You can live in different parts of India. Punjabi, you can get away with Punjabi in most parts of India or Hindi. Why are you in Canada? If you're here, you must have given that I L T S or whatever the equivalent of English proficiency exam. Clearly, that is a scam because you can't speak English. You come over here and then you act like as if, you know, immigration is a privilege or not a privilege, but a right. No, it's not. And then you make all sorts of excuses. And because of these, a bunch of these bad apples, whether it's a protest in PEI, whether it was a weird protest in Brampton or now this, this protest that I came across, you're giving the other students a bad name. Like I was at, you know, I met a bunch of students at the University of Windsor. They are doing engineering degrees. They were doing mechanical engineering, computer engineering and these are the kinds of jobs that are needed. You know, these are the kinds of people that are needed in Canada. And those students came up to me and they were telling Cushal, you know, we just get clubbed because of this problem and we have nothing to do with it. We're actually paying, we got good grades and these kids speak English proficiently. They live in Canada. They're, you know, they intend to get educated. If they find a decent opportunity here, they'll get it here or they'll go back. But I mean, this, all of this is just weird. What I, what I find entirely weird is this entire process. Oh, yeah, thank you, sharing that video. Okay, let me, let me play this video. It is so weird when I saw this video. I've not seen anything weird in my life. And these kids, these kids, they have a good life in India. Why are they protesting over here about living in Canada so much? Is something that is going to learn the English proficiency? I think temporary should be the first word that they should really be proficient in. Because they haven't been using temporary in the right sense of the word. And the whole, the whole idea is that they temporarily, any, any temporary worker comes in temporarily. Stand up. Stand up. Don't blame us. Fix your system. Fix your system. Fix your system. Fix your system. Fix your system. Don't blame us. Fix your system. Don't blame us. So saying, don't blame us. Fix your system. And here's the thing, like, you have to really empathize with these people. They got scammed into coming first. I actually agree that, you know, I don't want to blame them. And I do agree that the system needs to be fixed, but still doesn't mean their entitlement is justified. It doesn't mean they get a free pass. If you get scammed, like, for example, the India call center calls up my granny and scams her out of $50,000 of her saving money. I don't get to go to India and say, pay me because it's not India. That's the problem. And the Indian people didn't do it. It's one individual actor on a phone line in a call center somewhere. So it's, it's not the, that in this, the thing, fix your system is what, what Canadians are doing at this moment. And because we're raising so much awareness of this issue that Trudeau and his cohort are actually starting to do something. And this is no thanks to the conservatives. I mean, you know, conservatives are doing a number of things that are good or saying a number of things that are good. They are so quiet on this issue, because everyone's afraid of being called a racist. But this is the thing. It's not about race. It's about you came here with a promise not from the Canadian people and not from the Canadian government, but from some, some lawyer at some, you know, place above a McDonald's that told you that, yeah, no problem. You'll be temporary for this much time, and then we'll get you your permanent residence. That's not what that's not what the temporary worker program is for. The temporary worker program was originally for, you know, crops, fields that there's not enough young people to go, you know, toil in the fields. So you bring in laborers from wherever they're happy to come from, they come in temporarily, they make some money, and they go home with it. Go back. Yeah, that's a lot of Caribbean and Mexican workers come in Canada for. And they're fantastic. I've met so many of them. You go to some of the farms where you can pick blueberries and whatnot, and you'll meet them, and they're really, really nice people. And they're not intent on staying here. They're very happy to go home, especially when the one second month's character roll in. And yeah, they're not keen on that. But a lot of these Indians could do that. They could, you know, maybe they could come for four or five months if their airfare or air flight can be afforded, and then they can go back to India too. Why don't they consider doing that? Like, I'm not able to understand what's the big deal? Well, because this has been used as a backdoor for permanent immigration. And that's why I say, you know, the word temporary is the first English word. You might want to get a good grasp of the actual meaning of, because you're using a program not for what it was intended for. And you have other third parties that are lying to you about what they can do. And when they say, you know, give us what you even we've been promised, you weren't promised from either the Canadian people or their representatives. Well, I don't know about the government, because I think it was you who shared that video of Mark Miller and many other things that listen, the problem is that what they're doing right now is they opened the floodgates to be fair to a lot of these children. They opened the floodgates. They let these people in. And at that time, the Minister of Mark Miller was saying completely different things. You remember Motion M44? I don't need to tell you what what was Motion M44? The entire Canadian parliament voted for it, right? Basically giving a free pathway to all these temporary workers and temporary students as well. And that was the other backdoor. So that that's the whole point. And so, I mean, they did create the scam themselves. Now, this is that. This is exactly what I wanted to play. This is your clip. These institutions are smart. And they've gone and they've seen that they can get tuition fees that are four or five times more than what my kids pay at McGill or Acadia. Trudeau's immigration minister, Mark Miller, makes an about face on his international student policy. This was him just a few months ago. Look, international students are a credit to this country, Mr. Speaker. They are the future of this country. And they are an asset that is very lucrative. And they are an asset that is very lucrative. And they are an asset that is very lucrative. Independent journalists broke the story that this was actually a scam billion dollar industry and a backdoor for immigration. It is not the intention of this program to have sham commerce degrees or business degrees that are sitting on top of a massage parlor that someone doesn't even go to. And then they come into the province and drive an Uber. But that's exactly how it went down. But again, the point is that now they do in about my biggest fear in this entire thing is that people should not forget that this mess was not created by the students. This mess was created by the policies and many Canadian businessmen. It doesn't match. See, once again, there's a section of Canadian Twitter that will say, but these are brown people. It doesn't matter. They're Canadian brown people. They're not Indians. They're Canadians. Once you hold a Canadian passport, you are a Canadian. I don't care what color of your skin you are. You don't get to wash your hands off the scam by saying, "Oh, this is brown people doing brown people scams." Well, when the policy was created by a bunch of politicians very much in cahoots with these industries. And it was fine until you know, shit didn't hit the roof. And now you have the Prime Minister of Canada going, "Oh, we're reducing the number of low-based, temporary foreign workers in Canada. The labor market has changed. Now it is time for our businesses to invest in Canadian workers and youth." Now, the thing is, okay, fine. I'm an immigration hawk. I believe this should have been done way before. Then this entire mess has happened. But what about those innocent kids who are committing suicide and their bodies go back to India? Does Justin Trudeau do anything for those children? Justin Trudeau has blood on his hands. And every single politician has blood on their hands. Now, these students will eventually go back to India because there's no other way they can deal with this situation. Obviously, we have no other option. They have to go back to India. And honestly, they'll find a job in India, which is kind of interesting. Now, this is Pierre Paulier talking about it. Sean Frazier opened the floodgates for low-wage foreign workers, specifically in Canadian communities with high unemployment rates, where our youth can't get work. So corporations could treat them like, quote, "modern slaves" in the true words of the UN. Not to mention, we had no housing for these foreign workers. Then Trudeau makes him housing minister. Good luck finding a home. Yeah, Sean Frazier was the immigration minister. Now he's now the housing minister, which is really ironic about the whole scheme of things. Now, I have this other tweet here. This is from Kurt Lubrimoff. Lubrimoff, he's a great, great Twitter handle. Anybody go out and follow him as well. He was born buying the Iron Curtain. And he knows what communism is like. He knows what all this stuff is like. And he put out this tweet here saying, "Canada is finally making changes to the temporary foreign worker program that will go into September 26th. Some of us have worked really hard to this. And I'm so glad a step has been taken in the right direction. Temporary foreign worker applications will be refused where employment is 6% plus. Max temporary foreign worker hiring of the workforce for any given employer will go down from 20%, which was only only a couple of weeks ago that they made it 20%. It could have been 100% before to 10%. It's going down even to 10%. Workers hired via low wage stream will be able to work for one year instead of two. So really cutting back, the changes focused on low wage temporary foreign worker applications and leave out the LMIA scams for everything else still need changes here. I want to point out that these changes by the liberals have been brought with minimum pressure from the conservative politicians at all levels, municipal, provincial and federal, who were mostly silent and cowardly on the topic and still are on LMIA scams. So this is across the board. This is a bipartisan issue that people are coming out about this and talking about it. And it's bipartisan the the establishment that just does not want to rock the boat. I think on the LMIA bit, I have a slightly nuanced view because there are three kinds of LMIA from what I have understood in my research. There is high wage LMIA dual intent in LMIA and low wage LMIA. The problem, I think Canada should not throw the baby out with the bath water. I think the dual intent and the high wage LMIA for Canada is very important for the Canadian economy to grow. I'm just thinking out loud and I understand that the low wage LMIA is where the problem lies. And as much as I dislike Justin Trudeau and his government, I think this is the correct step being made right now. Because once again, people don't understand this isn't one year, all of this will be there. And you will see the effects in one year. And the reason Justin Trudeau has done it right now is because he knows he's going to elections in October 2025. And they know that for a fact, that's why they're trying to do these things. And my problem is the conservatives should keep on hammering about this is because boy, Canada is screwed with Justin Trudeau and NDP come back to power. Oh, it's over. It's over for the nation, in my opinion. Oh my god, it would be shocking. And they don't get to take credit for this is all I'm trying to say, because it is Justin Trudeau's liberals and the jigmeetsing NDP that has blood on the hands. It is they who have caused all these problems for average Canadians who are I've seen videos of average Canadians crying in front of a camera stating that their grocery bills are going up. They can't afford a house. I've seen international students crying and committing suicide on some rare occasions, where the rate is almost 10 suicides a month in Canada. And nobody gives a shit about those kids because they are the ones who are really scammed. Their parents sold their property off, they sold an arm and leg. And then this entire scam was aided and abated by Justin Trudeau's liberals and the NDP. The conservatives had nothing to do with this. Prime Minister Harper, who I think is the best prime minister in Canadian history, in my opinion, when I look at the policies of Canadian politicians, Prime Minister Harper had a very mature immigration policy where Canadians actually got what they wanted. They needed a worker to get that worker. And this man has just opened the floodgates after Covid. He has wrecked the Canadian economy. He's wrecked the housing market. And now he wants to build houses. Yeah, now he wants to be a house builder without any qualifications, of course. Now, there is one thing that the conservatives are raising. Pierre Pauliev has talked about a blue seal trying to put together a blue seal network for Canada across the board. So the trades have what's called a red seal. And tradesmen from other parts of the world, you can come show your qualifications and then challenge our exam. And if you can pass the exam, you can get into the work as a trade worker. And he wants to establish this for medical workers. So if you're a doctor in India, for example, a nurse, x-ray technician, any of these kinds of medical fields, you could show your schooling and maybe show some transcripts and then write an exam without having to go through the whole four years or however many years it takes all over again and get right into that and fulfill the positions that we actually do need. We need people, medical professionals, we need skilled trades workers, we're not getting any of those. We don't need any more Uber drivers. That's the real problem. Yeah. And listen, this thing can be done properly. It's not that cannot be done properly. And I also want to tell Canadians, I think there's a lot of panic around the discourse, which I think it's a little uncalled for. I don't think Canadians need to be that worried. In fact, the Canadian economy, sometimes you listen to the racist discourse over here, you just start smiling. Wow, there's all kinds. Yeah, it's just somebody told me, go back to India. I was like, well, okay, fine. But what are you going to do about your pension funds? Because they don't even know where the Canadian pension funds are investing the most right now. They don't even know that. These are the investments in India. Canada is actually investing, I think, as good as 25% now of their pension funds are invested in the Indian market. Why? Because they know the Indian economy is doing damn well. In fact, like I told you, you should invest in the Indian market too. Yeah, you're having a lot of the life numbers. Yeah, I mean, I was telling you to invest in the Indian market. My entire portfolio is in the Indian market. And people don't understand these things that we live in a globalized world. Indians are going to come to Canada. Canadians are going to go to India. And this is how we live. Today's world is not some imaginary, isolated island where we can live not being touched by each other. But I feel like Canada is weird. Canada is in its own little bubble where people picture India and they think poverty with large. It's not India, right? India is a lot of poverty in India. There's a lot of poverty in India and nobody can deny that. But the point is that there is a lot of growth in India. And if there was no growth in India, why do Canadian pension funds keep investing in India? What I'm getting at, what I'm getting at is that in people picture India and they don't think are one of our largest trading partners. Ninth. Yeah, one of our largest trading partners. Now, when India looks at Canada, they're not looking at Canada, like, wow, we want to get into the Canadian market. Like, it's not a big market for Indian investors. Now, it would be a lucrative thing if we didn't have such a problem with our regime. Because investors don't want to come here, because the likelihood they'll build assets and they'll have it confiscated by the government. They'll build infrastructure and they'll have it removed or, you know, you can't make money from it. It's crazy. It really is. It's crazy. Canadians don't see how much more easy it is to build a business in other countries. Yeah, so this is just to back you up. This is according to Invest India. Canada is the 18th largest foreign investor in India with an overall investment. This is just investment in the market. But as far as trade is concerned, Canada has a giant trade with India. Why don't massive trade with India? Are these people insane? Canada and India cannot afford bad relations with each other. It's a bad business decision for all sides. More so for Canada. Who are these crazy people? Yeah, we're so off. I mean, if you don't buy our wheat, we got to find another buyer for our wheat. You know, like pulses, pulses, man, pulses. And I don't know if you saw that clip of Pierre last year where somebody, some Indian media house, Indian origin, Canadian media house, let me correct myself. I'm sorry. They had asked Pierre, what are we going to do with the Indian situation? He's like, well, I would like to sell natural gas to India. I would like to sell uranium to India. They need nuclear power. They need natural gas. I would like to sell these things for India. So, you know, to that, I say, please bring Pierre Polier. We need trade with India. We need trade with India. We need Indians making money. We need Canadians making money. I want thousands of Canadian millionaires to prosper. You know, I'm new millionaires to prosper, and we need thousands and thousands of millionaires to prosper in India. I mean, what the hell is happening here? I don't understand. Like, but before I wrap up, like, if how do we fix that? Do you think there is a way out of the Canadian socialism bug? There's two ways out of it. There's, there's experiencing how bad it gets. And then, and then waking from that nightmare or waking from our slumber as it is right now and wising up. Which, which approach will Canada take? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Because here's the thing. Canada needs to have sweeping reforms. We need to go the way of, of Argentina. We need to have your millet. And I don't know if Pierre Polier is, is the have your millet that we need in Canada. He's definitely, he talks a good game. He knows his economics. He knows trade. He knows finance. That's great. And welcome that. Absolutely. But is it enough? Is it enough? Because Canada has a socialist tendency and they don't have an appetite for the pain. The pain that it takes to, to move to the next step. And what needs to happen is we need to cut government programs, like immensely. The amount of spend expenditure that we have in just the bloat of bureaucracy in Canada is, is not only costing us taxpayers dollars and being, you know, being embezzled to the nth degree as, as it's turning out, but it also forts real business. Because all of these, all of these, you know, bureaucracies are put in place to regulate markets. And it's just absolutely abhorrent. You cannot build a house without waiting years for the, for the permission. They call them permits for a reason. It's permission from the government to do with your property, what you want. And it goes across the board, any market that you get into, we are anti-competitive with the, with the regulations that we put on any market. If we want to compete with China, we want to compete with India, we want to compete with the United States of America, there's no way we can treat our own entrepreneurs the way we treat them. We're anti-competitive. Not only our Canadian, anti-competitive, I think Canadians are too bally-called. I think the, the, the socialist idea of the welfare state beyond a point is nice. Redistribution is nice. I always feel that the underdog needs some government support, which is why I support some sort of welfareism, whether in India or Canada, beyond it. But, but you still need an active market, a very healthy market. Now, I heard the news of them putting a hundred percent tariff on Canadian, the Chinese EV vehicle imports, but then they have these carbon taxes. So Canadian businesses can't do anything basically over here. So you've made your own market, non-competitive, and then you have these Chinese vehicles that were kind of coming in and giving people a breather. Now you've stopped that breather is because now, what, now you're going to create even more inflation. I, I just don't understand. It's just against the consumer at the end of the day. I mean, every measure along the way is against the consumer. Even when it comes down to French and English laws, we, we have so many American companies just south of our border, all over the place. You know, a small company in Washington wants to sell their product to people in Vancouver, but they're not going to, for the tiny demographic, they're not going to change their entire packaging process to have French and English for X amount of days, just to make the, the demand from the Canadian side. It's just, it doesn't make sense economically. Why we, and why we put all these, these barriers to our own market, we're putting barriers on our own market. And to get back to what I was saying about Pierre Pauliev and the conservatives, what I, what I predict is if he's not hard enough in, in pushing us into a free market and changing the mentality in Canada, he'll have a short-lived, you know, reign as prime minister. And another idiot socialist is going to come in with all of these beautiful ideas about he's going to give everybody free stuff. We'll come in and ruin it even further. And then, you know, what, we could be the next Sri Lanka with the, with, you know, the involvement with the World Economic Forum and how much they're, they're pushing us to go completely organic with our, with our farming. Yeah, we could be the next Sri Lanka. Who knows? It either goes, we, we, we, we look at less authoritarianism and more freedom in our markets and decision-making, or we go the other way and we go completely into authoritarianism and we collapse like Venezuela. Yeah. The one thing I notice in Canada now is that I think you guys have those things banned, right? The weed killers in Canada for the lawns. You can't use the sprays that they use in America to kill the weed. Oh, we can't use those. I didn't know. Yeah. I think many places you can't use them. That's what I've understood over here. They banned WD-40. Now, you know, when I, when I did a story on this, people told me they didn't ban WD-40. Like, yes, they essentially did. They banned it in an aerosol can, but then what they did, and it's because of volatile compounds, organic, organic volatile compounds, essentially, you know, part of the ingredient of it. So what do they do? For the Canadian market, they have one product that has less of that. So it's just a less effective product. My goodness. It's just the nanny state. It is the nanny state. And this is why I've been saying Canada is the canary in the coal mine for the western world, or for at least for North America. If we keep going the direction that we're going, we are going to become the biggest national security threat to the United States of America, not the biggest trading partner. Do you know how Canada has not even taken seriously in the fire eyes discussions? Have you noticed that? How many times they get snubbed and they don't even get called in the fire eyes? Well, they got to they got to stop pretending that they are serious as a government. They got to stop pretending that that's that they they should deserve a seat at the table until they start putting their big boy pants on and actually doing stuff that's worthy of coming to the table. Let's hope for the best. I like Canada a lot. I like India a lot. I don't want to see Canada suffer that much. But yeah, I you know, obviously I don't dislike any politician more than I dislike Jugmit Singh for personal reasons being a Punjabi. I just dislike him with a passion because he's he's just disgusting. But yeah, what Justin Trudeau has done to Canada is appalling and and and listen man, before we wrap up, what's the best way people can get hold of you? Tell everyone. Oh, yeah, go check me out on my YouTube channel. It's Clyde Do Something. I'm also on Twitter. It's Clyde at Clyde Do Something Without the G, just not enough characters for the Twitter at handle. Those are the two places I'm mostly at. Do shorts on Instagram as well as YouTube. So go if you're if you're frequent on Instagram, go check out at Clyde Do Something There. It's at Clyde Do Something Across all all the bounds there. So check it out. I do have a clip. I don't know if you saw this about Jugmit and the and the potatoes. No, what the hell? What did he do with the potatoes now? I dislike him so much. So I just want to you know yell at him for no reason. I really dislike him. There is no one I dislike more than that one Canadian politician. I just like I have so much anger towards him. Like I just like he just gets to me. I don't know why, but I gotta send you the link. You're gonna love this and your audience is gonna love this too. Oh my god. He's an idiot. He's a complete idiot. And you know he's taken over the NDP in such a fraudulent way. Like seriously. Oh yeah. Okay, Jugmit Singh. No way. He did not do that. He did. No, no, he'd be those stupid. He sack of potatoes, one bag of potatoes plus nine dollars. He sack of potatoes, one bag of potatoes. That's apples. Why is he holding apples and talking about potatoes? He's not even comparing apples with oranges. What is wrong with this person? He's dumb. He's dumb. He makes me like Justin Trudeau. That's why I need to read one more. He's a Rolex socialist here in Canada. Oh my gosh. Those are not potatoes. If you're doing an act, at least hold the damn thing properly, right? That's right. You know what this shows to me? They don't take Canadians seriously. They just don't take anything serious. Yeah. It's so condescending. Anyways, man, before we thanks a lot for coming. I really enjoyed this. Absolutely. And then you know, this is not going to be the last time we're going to do this. I'm going to try to get more and more people as everybody knows I've stuck on this channel. I've started a new playlist that we're calling Canada and we're going to talk about Canadian issues. Obviously, I'm not going to stop talking about Indian issues because I do live in India too and I live here, but I feel I have to give attention to both the countries. So you're going to see Clyde a lot of times on the podcast. Obviously, Daniel will always be there. Clyde will be there. I'll try to get more and more Canadians when Daniel and I do these discussions so that all of you actually understand this country and where when it comes to weird things, India is not alone. And go follow Clyde on Twitter or on Instagram. Also subscribe to his YouTube channel. If you have not till now, he makes great content. And if you like to support what I'm doing on the Charvak podcast, remember, I don't do any ad reads. I have a rule, no ad reads. So I only survive on you, the members of the Charvak podcast. 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