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The great Chris House Health is our boss out of the South Carolina studios. There is a lot to get to. And it's Wednesday night, which means we get to have a reunion with some of our favorite regulars every Wednesday. We get Bob Seska, one of the best political podcasters in the game joins us. The God squad, our team of progressive theologians comes in to Bitch, Mac Christian nationalism. And our number two and Dr. Tracy Pearson is here to bring her legal expertise in general political brilliance and passion to our number three, 62 days until your presidential election, six days until the first presidential debate and ABC News just released the rules for that September 10th debate between Kamala Harris and man. Baby, they include muted muted microphones for when a candidate's not speaking. There are very strict time limits. And once again, there is no audience. John McCain's son endorsed Kamala Harris this week. Liz Cheney's daughter endorsed Kamala Harris this week. Mid Romney. Well, he won't. He'll oppose Trump, but he'll endorse everything Trump stands for. You know, um, if you're like me, you hear the right-wing folks talking about how Vice President Harris is a communist. I think it's a brilliant line. They should definitely do this. They are doing such a great job of the Trumpers of appealing to white men over 65 who are still obsessed with the Cold War. Again, when you're on your knees to Putin, you should call other people's communist as often as possible. She's a communist who's going to destroy our economy. And that's why she wants a much lighter capital gains tax than Biden. We have found out 10 points less she wants to tax this super rich than Joe Biden. Oh, and Goldman Sachs, you know, those communists. Their economists predict a stronger GDP and job growth. If Kamala Harris wins, let's say this again. Goldman Sachs who are evil and they, they know a thing or two about evil. And they came out today and said the GDP will significantly decrease under Donald Trump, but it will continue to increase under Kamala Harris. Folks, the yokels are going to do what they do. The racist are going to have their champion. The smart evil conservatives who actually control our economy. They see which way this is going. They just said today at Goldman Sachs that another Trump presidency would cool down economic activity with, quote, their words, a hit to growth. A lot of guys have that problem. They said Trump's foreign policies on immigration and tariffs on Chinese imports will cut into America's gross domestic product by as much as a half percentage point in 2025 before it rebounds. And if you're Donald Trump, you know, half of anything means a lot. We estimate that if Trump wins in a sweep or with divided government, they hit to growth from tariffs and tighter immigration policy, without way, the positive fiscal impulse. Meanwhile, you might have heard that Tim Walz is relatives are all turning against Tim Walz's. You may have seen a picture of a group of people who don't know how to use apostrophes in their own name when they pluralize it. Turns out, Tim Walz's mother. Darlene, she's 88. She told TMZ she wasn't surprised by the photo because that side of the Walz family are made up of conservative devout Catholics, which means they really like Donald Trump because he's so goddamn Christian and the people in the photo are second cousins to Tim, by the way. Now, the story that we're going to discuss with the God squad tonight is the story that's never going away in this country. We are the one country where this keeps happening because we are the one country that believes children being slaughtered by guns is acceptable. We are the one country that sacrifices children and adults to the God of unregulated weaponry. Four people were shot and killed. A lot others were hurt today at a high school in Georgia. I'm sure you've heard about it already. Is there any question how a 14 year old boy gets access to a gun? Are his parents available to ask? He was able to get a gun, bring it to school, and then shoot it off enough to kill four people before a cop who was also in the building, was able to engage him and get him to drop his gun. The cop didn't use a gun to take him down, which is how, you know, the shooter was white. I'm sure thoughts and prayers did just as well. Two students are dead. Two teachers are dead. And a 14 year old is in custody facing murder charges. Nine other people were taken from Appalachia High School to hospitals with injuries, an amendment written in the time when we fought the British with muskets is more important than your kids' lives. This is one of the reasons why you have to vote the Democratic ticket. If you care about people cut down in high schools with guns, if you care, you got to vote Democrat and then you have to kick their ass every day and make sure they do something about it. Speaking in New Hampshire, Kamala Harris began with remarks on the Georgia school shooting. I do want to say a few words about this tragic shooting that took place this morning in Winder, Georgia. We're still gathering information about what happened. But we know that there were multiple fatalities and injuries. And, you know, our hearts are with all the students, the teachers and their families, of course, and we are grateful to the first responders and the law enforcement that were on the scene, but this is just a senseless tragedy on top of so many senseless tragedies. And it's just outrageous that every day in our country, in the United States of America, that parents have to send their children to school worried about whether or not their child will come home alive. It's senseless. It is -- we've got to stop it and we have to end this epidemic of gun violence in our country once and for all. You know, it doesn't have to be this way. It doesn't have to be this way. So we will continue, of course, to send our prayers and our thoughts to the families and all those who were affected. But prayers and thoughts, as has been proven, not enough. Now, the kid's name was Colt Gray. He's 14. Yes, it appears he's named after a gun. Or maybe he's named after a young horse, but we don't know how he got the gun. Did his parents have unsecured guns at the house? Did he get it some other way? The problem is it's very easy to get access to guns and kill a lot of people in this country if you want to kill a lot of people with the gun. The questions the media should be asking is how the hell did a 14 year old get to steal a firearm? Did he get to steal it because it was improperly stored? Was it his own gun given to him by a parent? Did this gun have a trigger lock? How did he steal it from his parents if his parents are responsible gun owners? Was there ammunition that was kept separate or was the gun loaded? You see, this happened in Georgia and Georgia has no minimum age to purchase rifles. Let's say that again. The beautiful state of Georgia that I love so dearly has no minimum age to purchase rifles. Georgia does not require parents to securely store guns in the home. Georgia does not believe in having background checks on all gun sales. So despite the fact that there were armed officers at Appalachia High School, this 14 year old was able to bring a gun into the building, kill four people, wound about 90 others, send nine more to the hospital. Armed officers didn't stop it. Stronger gun laws that would keep the gun out of the child's hand would. But we don't have the will for that because we have bought and paid for a moral whores like Brian Kemp, governor of Georgia. Now I know there's a temptation to say that Brian Kemp is a good man because Brian Kemp told the truth and didn't lie for Donald Trump and Donald Trump said a lot of mean things about Brian Kemp and his wife. And we decried those things. It was not fair. We praised Brian Kemp when he told the truth that Donald Trump lost the state of Georgia. But back in April of 2021, gun control advocates gave Georgia a grade of F and governor Kemp tweeted proudly, I'll wear this F as a badge of honor. Our Second Amendment is sacred. And I'll never back down from defending Georgia's constitutional rights. Here's the deal, you godless prostitute. You can have safer gun laws without cracking down on people's constitutional rights. This only happens here. It only happens here because guys like prostitute governor Brian Kemp are paid for blood. And the gun manufacturers are going to make so much money off of this. Tomorrow you will see the mailings. Today you'll see the mailings. Joe Biden slash Kamala Harris is going to come take your guns. And some people will believe it and they'll buy more guns. Every time there is a mass killing, the gun manufacturers make a killing. Our Second Amendment is sacred. You hear that? Easy access to any kind of weaponry for a disturbed 14 year old is sacred. But the lives of Georgia's children? Not so much. So wear your badge proudly governor, your F as a badge of honor. You fought so hard for a 14 year old to easily get his hands on a gun to shoot up Georgia schools. Take a bow. I bet the NRA pours money into your coffers for your loyal service. So earlier today, here's the story that is fascinating to me. And I want your thoughts on this because this is going to be unfolding for a bit. And it has to deal with former liberals who now make a lot of money. Pushing right wing propaganda, which is to say pushing Vladimir Putin propaganda. Because Vladimir Putin has spent a lot of money since 2016 on our divisions. He knows how much we hate each other. He knows that's America's fatal flaw. We know this from the Mueller report. We know the sophistication of the election hacking machine Vladimir Putin had in 2016. And earlier today, the Department of Justice accused Russia of using the company tenant media out of Tennessee. That's the platform with right wing douchebags, Tim Poole and Dave Rubin, who I have some special words for. Dave Rubin was a guest on this show the first week we were ever on the year back in 2015. And Russia used these right wing knobs to influence and target the 2024 election. Russia paid about $10 million to hire influencers, these right wing tools with millions of followers to quote amplify divisions in the United States. I know, right? Wait, Tim Poole and Dave Rubin are on Moscow's payroll? What next? Tucker Carlson will promote a Hitler apologist? No surprises. I know. They unsealed this indictment today. It was not leaked. Okay. These little right wing monkeys were all saying, oh, it was leaked late. If nothing was leaked, it was unsealed. And the indictment accuses this Tennessee based content company with these high profile right wing dude bros of being part of this Russian influence operation, working to infiltrate US media with Kremlin propaganda. Tenet media pays a lot of money to guys like Dave Rubin, who once was a progressive and a stand up comic and then realized, you know what, fighting for gay people? Because Dave's gay, but he realized fighting for LGBTQ issues. He had done it for years. The pay sucks. Fighting for the least of us sucks, but embracing fascism and devoting your life to renouncing your values and being Tucker Carlson's pet gay and cheering on Trump and Pence in their relentless anti-gay legislation. Well, Dave Rubin bought himself a house. Benny Johnson, of course, another amoral dickface, Lauren Southern. It was a front for the Russian government. They are seizing 32 domains. The DOJ is tied to this Russian influence campaign. Here's an example. Here's Tim Poole doing what he's paid to do, attacking Ukraine. Now, there's a lot of lies here. Now, Tim Poole, if you don't know, he's that dude with the beanie who used to hang out and occupy Wall Street was a big Bernie, bro. And then he realized, wait a second, standing up for the poor, that pay sucks. How can I be a fascist? How can I embrace the opposite of everything Bernie Sanders and occupy Wall Street stood for? I know what I'll do. I'll embrace the American right wing. So listen to this dickface attacking Ukraine. This is before we knew who was funding his show. Give a listen. They know it, but I don't know that it matters anymore. This is psychotic. Ukraine is the enemy of this country. Ukraine is our enemy being funded by the Democrats. I will stress this again. What? What? One of the greatest enemies of our nation right now is Ukraine. Ukraine? They are expanding this war. Now, don't get me wrong. I know. You've got criminal elements of the U.S. government pushing them and guiding them and telling them what to do. Ukraine is now accused, a German war issued for blowing up the Nord Stream pipeline. Triggering this conflict. Triggering the conflict. Ukraine is the greatest threat to this nation and to the world. We should rescind all funding and financing, pull out all military support, and we should apologize to Russia. Wow. We should apologize to Russia. Okay, there's a lot of lies there, but let's look at to the main one. Nord Stream pipeline? That happened seven months after Putin invaded Ukraine, children. Putin invaded Ukraine in February of 2022, and the Nord Stream was blown up. Two of them. There's a whole bunch of them blown up in September. Now, I only went to public school, you know, the guy that plays Tim Poole and the godless fascists who fund him want to destroy. But I'm pretty sure September comes after February on the calendar. So no, Nord Stream pipeline did not trigger this entire thing. This was triggered because Vladimir Putin doesn't believe Ukraine is a country. He believes it's part of Russia, despite the fact that Ukraine had more nukes than any country in Europe and in 1993 made a deal with Russia to give Russia all their nukes in exchange for their sovereignty. And Russia agreed and Putin didn't like that. So he's been spending the last 20 years invading all the former block nations and trying to take them over again. That's why this conflict happened. A campaign of murder and rape and our Russian friends. By that, I mean our right-wing friends. They love it. They claim Donald Trump's anti-war. And these child men put on mini skirts and pom-poms to cheer Vladimir Putin's slaughter of civilians. So members of Putin's inner circle were telling Russian companies to promote disinformation because it works so good. So the DOJ sees 32 domains, including some cyber-squatted sites that are supposed to resemble legitimate news outlets. And tenant media, again, Tim Poole, Dave Rubin, Benny Johnson, got millions from Russian state media to spread pro-Russia propaganda, 10 million. And these videos were all over TikTok, Instagram, Twitter, YouTube. The company had more than 2,000 videos posted in the last 10 months, viewed more than 16 million times on YouTube alone, according to the indictment. And it was Russian propaganda. And it's specific. The indictment doesn't say names, but everyone figured out who they were talking about. That the people who worked for the company were deceived, okay? Dave Rubin and Tim Poole didn't know it was Russian money. But the money in their bank account is Russian lie money. And the alleged topics that the Russian actors wanted portrayed on the content of the right-wing influencers, I mean, poverty is coming around the world. Record inflation. There's no economic growth. Everything's too expensive. Risk of job loss for white Americans. There's special privileges for people who aren't white. And the disabled lies about the US administration. Crime is coming from immigrants, including immigrants from Ukraine. We're spending way too much on foreign policy. And it's hurting white US citizens. We're spending too much on the war, lies to the voters about the Democratic Party. And of course, we are suffering a defeat in Ukraine. We're being drawn into war. Our troops will die there. Have you heard these themes at all over the last three years? Of course you have. It's all right-wing guys talk about. The DOJ also announced charges against Russian nationals connected to an alleged scheme to influence US audiences with content that included this hidden Russian government messaging. But it's so damn similar to what they're already saying, isn't it? Two Russian nationals, Kostian teen Kalishnikov and Elena Afanseva were charged with conspiring to violate the Foreign Agents Registration Act. And they were money laundering into a scheme to influence US audiences by paying these right-wing douchebags to say things they already like to say. So this is RT, Russian state media network, sent spent $10 million to finance and direct a Tennessee-based online content creation company that's posted a couple thousand videos in English, focused on domestic issues to amplify divisions. America's hatred of America is the thing that will kill America. And Vladimir Putin knows it. Comments from top DOJ and FBI officials denounced the scheme as covert attempts to sow division and trick Americans into unwittingly consuming foreign propaganda. And it was done. The influence campaigns were known as doppelganger. These three Russian companies were directed to not only influence voters, but to reduce international support for Ukraine. So Putin can continue to rape the land, rape the women, slaughter the citizens. Now, I know so many of you will be shocked to learn that Dave Rubin and Benny Johnson and Tim Poole would be stupid, unvirtuous, have no integrity, and essentially have Putin's hand up their ass and be hand puppets. I know it's shocking. These companies were called the Good Old USA project, the Gorilla Media Campaign in the US and the US Social Media Influencer Network. And again, the Treasury Department said Russia today began an even more nefarious effort to covertly recruit unwitting American influencers. So again, a guy like Dave Rubin, who used to be a progressive, had his own show on the Young Turks, and then realized you get paid a lot more money making gay people's lives harder. That's right, Dave. God bless you. The both Kalishnikov and Afan Sava are at large. But this is how it is, folks. America's adversaries are trying to divide us from within. They want us to hate each other on partisan lines, because it's always been that easy. But keep in mind, it's been worse in this country. A civil war that killed over half a million of us is just a bit worse than right-wing guys being dicks online. Their goal is to make us see our fellow Americans as enemies, not simply neighbors we disagree with, and that is why it is important to not hate these right-wing people. We have to hate what they do. We have to hate the lies. We have to hate the propaganda. We have to hate their installment of this corrupt, racist, sex-abusing felon. But we can't hate them. And I love when conservatives call this show. I will book any right-wingers on the show anytime, because I think we have to be able to debate in good faith. Maybe you grew up in a family where people disagreed about things politically, but still got along. Maybe you still have a family like that. But America's a family. And it's proof that we're a family because we can't stand these people, but we're stuck with them anyway. So let's try to get along, and let's try to remind people that Putin invading Ukraine and slaughtering civilians is bad, because Republicans used to be groomed to care about freedom. We want to know what you guys think. We're at 866-997-4748, and we would love to hear from you all night long. We're going to take a quick break. Be right back with your calls on the great Bob Seska. This is Progress. [Music] Have you ever covered a carpet stain with a rug? Ignored a leaky faucet? Pretended your half-painted living room is supposed to look like that. Well, you're not alone. We've all got unfinished home projects, but there's an easier way. ThumbTack is the app that makes it easier to care for your home. Pull out your phone and in just a few taps. Search, chat, and book highly-rated prose right in your neighborhood. Download ThumbTack and start caring for your home the easier way. 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Just before we connected here, I just noticed something that came down in the news. I don't know if you want me to mention this, but please. Apparently, Chris Lasavita and Susie Wiles from the Trump campaign have issued an internal staff warning not to talk to the press. I'm not sure what that's about, but I wonder if it's about something that happened in the news today or something that's going to happen in the news tomorrow or the day after tomorrow. So, more intrigue from the Trump campaign, for sure. Yeah, and by the way, unlike the indictments that were revealed today, this is an actual leak, right? The indictment was unsealed and they're calling it a leak. This is a real leak. I'm looking at it now. Team Susie and I have always said this is the best team in politics. Each day that passes were reminded how true that is. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You should not be independently speaking or communicating with any member of the press on or off the record. Bob, what could this be about? It's a really good question. I don't know. As I said, it could be something that it's about to drop in the news or it could just be a standard off-the-shelf warning to staff. Maybe someone's been talking to the press too much or sometimes what happens is a junior staff or someone from maybe one of the state committees or something starts speaking as though they are close to the candidate. In this case, Donald Trump. And so they're probably being told to shut up. I mean, that could be it too. It could be completely innocuous, but given the way this entire year has gone, it's entirely possible that it could be something that's completely out of left field or something maybe damaging to the Trump campaign. I don't know, but at this point, I'm done predicting what's going to happen next because no matter what you predict, what happens in reality is far worse and far crazier. Is there anything funnier, Bob, than the Trump campaign, ordering staffers not to leak anything to the media and the memo is immediately leaked to the media? Because that's all I could have thought. I just look for the comedy angle on all of this. I'm a simple man with simple needs, Bob. I mean, literally, they said, "Don't leak any info," and they leak the memo saying, "Don't leak." I kind of love it. Yeah, it's great and completely indicative of the clown show that is the Trump campaign right now. I don't know, and it's amazing that he's still polling in the, whatever it is, mid-40s, that's confounding to me, given all the things. And I guess, you know what, maybe one of the reasons why he's still polling so well is because of the glut of disinformation that's obviously being spread throughout social media, YouTube, et cetera, by what turns out to be Russian-paid shills inside the United States, which we've learned about today. Let's talk about it, because I'd like to say I'm surprised, but I'm not. And I say this with the caveat that Dave Rubin is morally... I don't want to insult sewers. So, I mean, sewers are great for cities. Sewers actually maintain hygiene for entire civilization, so it's wrong to compare Dave Rubin's morality to a sewer. But I worked with Dave for many years when he was a progressive and fighting the good fight before he decided to be Tucker Carlson's pet gay and cash in. Are you surprised at all to find out that Russia is using the same playbook as 2016? Yeah, not at all. Not at all. In fact, it's been continuing on and on and on. It never stopped after 2016. And in fact, what's happened since then is they've become more clandestine about it. Initially, in 2016, what we all know from the Mueller investigation and indictments and so forth is that it was the Russian military intelligence, the GRU, that was conducting most of it as far as the hacking operations and the drip drip drip of the emails that they were able to get their hands on. And so that was the directly connected to the Kremlin. But then there was also the internet research agency that was in the process of spreading all of the Kremlin disinformation throughout the internet where they were paying Facebook and rubles in order to post advertisements that were slanderous and negative blacks against Hillary. Yeah, blacks against Hillary was a Russian operative. I mean, like that was a Russian operation. So many of those. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And so it was more direct in 2016. Now they've got what they say and what they call in mafia parlance. They've got buffers. They've got lots of buffers in between the Russians and the Americans who are spreading this disinformation. And in some cases it may be completely unknown to the Americans who are delivering these talking points on their YouTube channels and on their social media platforms. So it will be there. There are a few more hops in between. Yeah, they're wretched people, but they didn't know where their money was coming from. And it's comforting to know that Dave Rubin's house in Florida, where he moved to support Ron DeSantis full time was paid for in rubles. I think it's beautiful. The State Department put out a release saying that individuals who provide certain information on this could be eligible for a ward of up to 10 million or relocation under the Rewards for Justice program. So that seems like the State Department is trying to get Russians who might want to defect over here to tell the truth. But in the meantime, Bob, this is what America does. Should we be surprised that other countries are doing it back to us? I mean, you and I don't like it because they're helping enable fascists. They're helping enable Vladimir Putin. They're trying to end America's support for Ukraine. So Putin's rape and slaughter can be completed and Ukraine won't be a country anymore. That's tragic, but this is to be expected. This is how elections are done. America has done this for decades. And now we have to deal with other countries doing it to us. Well, yeah, and I think usually the motivations behind what the United States has done is to defend democracy on something level and spread democracy to a certain extent. And it hasn't always worked out very well for those nations. But we're under attack right now, John. We're under attack by this other superpower, Russia, that is attempting to install a fascist authoritarian inside the United States government once again. They were already successful once they want to try and do it again. And now they're enlisting apparently. And I'm going to say apparently, Adam, I'm going to say allegedly in this case, because in this indictment, they talk about US company one. And it's very clear in the description of the indictment that US company one is, and again, I'm going to say allegedly, this media platform called tenant media, which has a YouTube channel. They have TikTok. They have Instagram. They're all over the place. They're all over social media. And among the personalities that are part of tenant media are familiar faces like Benny Johnson. And Tim Poole. And as you were saying, Mr. Rubin. And so this is, by the way, I should mention that at least two of them have now denied knowing anything about the money that they were receiving. But I have to question whether or not if they knew it was coming from Russia, whether or not that would even matter. Exactly. Because I mean, they stand by what they've been saying. So why not? You know? Yeah. You know, I mean, that's true. You know, it's like, if there was a secret human rights cabal that was paying liberals to spread social justice messages, well, we want to do that anyway, because we don't want people to suffer. Selfish right-wing pricks get paid to be selfish right-wing pricks. And more power to them, I guess. It's good to know where your money's coming from. I mean, you know, again, to me, the story really is that Russia's doing this, and we have to be prepared for it. We don't really raise critical thinkers in this country. And this sort of thing is going to continue more and more. And, you know, people don't mind being lied to if the lies make them happy. Oh, that's exactly right. I mean, we've got a nation of suckers. See the aforementioned 45% of American suckers who are backing Donald Trump right now. An obvious con man, an obvious and adjudicated fraud. And they're behind them anyway, because reasons. And so what the 2016 election did and the rise of Donald Trump initially was it underscored this Suckerism in the United States and made us further susceptible to not just Russia, but other hostile foreign powers or even semi-hostile foreign powers, foreign powers who want to maybe, you know, influence us in other ways, inject themselves into our pop culture and so forth and try to manipulate us because they see us as easy marks. They see us as the suckers who walk down, you know, the tourists who walk down the street in New York City and start, "Oh, look, there's a three card money guy. Let's see if we can beat that guy." And they end up losing all their money in the process and their travelers checks and all the rest of it. And so that's how we're viewed, I think, by foreign countries. Certainly Russia, certainly China, certainly Iran and others who just know that they can. If they do this right, if they inject enough money into it, and they're smart enough about it not to get caught unlike Russia, which has been caught a couple of times, that they can obviously change Americans' points of view on their own leadership, make Americans' question, democracy, question institutions, and elect known frauds in criminals like Donald Trump. And so that's why we are where we are, John, and I don't know if it's ever going to stop. This is the part of the show where I remind everybody that Donald Trump stole from veterans with the fraudulent Trump University. And in 2016, Donald Trump used $2.8 million raised by the Trump Foundation at a fundraiser for veterans organizations to promote his presidential campaign and spend $10,000 for a portrait of Donald Trump. He steals from vets, folks. Yeah. Just ask your right-wing loved ones. Tell me why not to accept children of cancer, you know? I mean, well, that was more that was more, Eric, that was more, Eric. I mean, you know, but, you know, I've been trying to be fair. But yeah, I just ask them, why is that acceptable to you? I mean, Bob, he on the campaign stump, he came out and said Putin can invade any of our allies he wants. And I don't understand why our media isn't asking people if that's acceptable to them. Instead of asking us, why don't you listen to Trump voters a little more? Why don't you listen to what their concerns are? And, you know, I'm glad you brought up the NATO thing with Trump encouraging Russia to invade NATO nations. That should be the biggest story probably of the last 10 years. The fact that Donald Trump, just because he's in the pocket of Vladimir Putin, or he admires Vladimir Putin, or for whatever reason, he loves Vladimir Putin, wants to encourage Vladimir Putin when he's done with Ukraine. Because this is what's going to happen if Donald Trump wins. If Donald Trump wins in November, Ukraine will fall. Ukraine will be annexed by Russia. It'll be reabsorbed into the Russian Empire. And then once that is done, Donald Trump will encourage Russia, encourage Putin to move on to other Eastern European nations. Correct. Estonia, some of those Eastern, former Eastern Bloc nations. That's right. Poland, certainly. Who knows, maybe even Norway. The ones that haven't joined NATO. Yeah, no Norway, I mean, Poland and Norway are NATO nations. So, I mean, I don't think Vladimir Putin would go after a NATO country, which is why I think he's going after Ukraine. Yeah. Well, I think he'll go after a NATO country. I absolutely think he will. And with the United States on his side. In this case, the United States will become basically the modern equivalent of one of the Axis powers. That's where we will land on this with Donald Trump. And if you're going, "Now, Bob, you're full of Huey. You're not making any sense here. You're full of conspiracy theories." Yeah, prove me wrong. This is Donald Trump we're talking about here. We've been watching him on the political stage for the last nine years. And he said it. I mean, he said it a few times already. We don't say Huey on the show, Bob. Just so you know, we don't use words like Huey on the show. I keep forgetting that I'm not on broadcast radio anymore. I could say bullshit. So, okay. You could say malarkey too. Well, malarkey's a fine compromise. Malarkey, there you go. God, why didn't I say malarkey? That would have been cool. Full of phone for a quick second. Don in Utah is online one. He wants to talk to Bob Sesca. Don, welcome. You're on SiriusXM. Good evening. Hey, guys. Hey, Don. Hey, Bob. I'm one of your patrons and subscribers. Hey. Oh, hey, thanks. Yeah, I'm sending you podcasts to friends and trying to get them hooked. I've only one here for you, but... Nice. Love Fuzz, Jody, all of the great guys. People on your show. Thank you so much. Hey, God. Yeah, you have way too much effect upon me. I apologize. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. No, I'm teasing. No, I was going to ask you both. Well, first of all, don't you think Putin thought that historically Trump should win? And therefore, he was already committed to going into Ukraine. I think that that is a pretty damn good theory. I think that that was why I think he was assuming that Donald Trump was going to win in 2020 and plan to go in as soon as Donald Trump won re-election. The plans were already set, and even though Donald Trump lost the election, he decided to go in anyway. This is... I've been talking about this for a while. This is a plot by Vladimir Putin. This is a strategy by Putin that goes back to... I want to say 2013, when he welcomed Edward Snowden with open arms into Russia and used that as a cudgel to undermine US institutions, both nationally, internationally, certainly among the Five Eyes. And so, from there, it was the Sochi Olympics after that. That was the annexation of Crimea. I mean, you could do this list and connect the dots all the way from 2013 on through the 2016 election, all the hacking operations, and what we're seeing in the indictments and sanctions that were handed down today. This is all, I think, one part of the same continuum. Yeah, I think so, too. Yeah, well, out of a miscalculation there, I believe. Yeah, but what he wanted to do all along was, again, see if he could pull this off without having to spend a whole lot of money. And it's relatively cheap to engage in a disinformation war against the United States. Yeah. Ten million dollars is the amount. It's not that this alleged company was paid to spread disinformation on their YouTube channel and so forth. I mean, in the grand scheme of things for an oligarch, like Vladimir Putin, $10 million is nothing. It's pocket chains and stuff that he finds. It's exactly right. It's nothing for him. And keep in mind, they spent a lot of money back in 2020 as well, but Joe Biden had an incredible turnout, 81 million people, more people voted for Joe Biden and against Donald Trump than any candidates in American history. So we have to expect there'll be all kinds of disinformation like this always. There always is, but it's another reason why we have to have massive turnout, massive turnout, or Ukraine becomes a Russian suburb. Filled with corpses. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, Don. Hey, thank you guys. Love you both. Thanks, Don. Hey, call in any time. We're at 866-997-4748. Bob, let me just take a quick call from Harry in Texas about a comedy legend, J.D. Vance. Harry, welcome. You're on SiriusXM. Hello, John. Can you hear me? Yes, sir. Welcome. Yep. Yeah, I wasn't getting the feed, so I had to switch back and forth between the app. Okay. I have a bone to pick with you and Bob, and some of the folks here are like, go ahead and buzz on Bob. Okay. You folks didn't, you know, and this is not to promote J.D. Vance. I'm not advocating for him in any way. Sure, you're not. Sure, you're not. Go ahead. No, let me, let me, let me finish. What I have a problem with is I was a military public affairs specialist, motor photojournalist with J.D. J.D. Vance's job was in the Marine Corps. And you folks are saying that he was just, you know, a combat, you know, he's just a propaganda. That's the job description. Yeah. Literally, that is what the job description is. If you are working as a military photojournalist, that's what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to go to the military. Correct. So I just, yeah, that's my only quibble. And you're supposed to, well, hang on, you're supposed to promote the military campaign. Not the military. You're supposed to promote the military campaign. His work was letting everyone know how awesome things were going in Iraq. Well, the thing is, is quite frankly, as a, you know, as a former journalist for the army, my job when writing the monthly newspaper for the army was promote everything that the command was doing and say, you know, make them look good. Right. That's, that's what his, yeah, that's what his job was. It's just like working for like, you know, major company, like, say, if you're a public relations specialist for Eli Lilly, you're going to release his, you know, say, promote the firms for them. Well, I thank you for your service. I just think, I think JD Vance deserves to be asked a couple of very specific questions about that war and why it was fought and whether it was successful or not. I agree, I agree completely. I have nothing else good to say about that, man. But I, you know, what I do, I do take, you know, I'm just going to be with the characterization of the job. No, no, no, here's my, here's my boss now, Harry. Look, you, I, I bet you, you guys may have had the same job, but unlike JD Vance, you know how to order donuts in a donut shop. I'm sure the man can order donuts. Yes, so far, you, you, you, you, you, you come up as a human very effectively to us. Yes, I can do that. And it was, you know, also too, I was, you know, I worked for Army Air Force hometown news when I was in the, in the military, you know, behind my Merry Christmas folks, you see on TV. I did that. I traveled around the world writing stories and soldiers and airmen for the hometown newspapers. So it's well practiced in the art of me trying to make the military look good because it was a recruiting tool, but it was also right on the military for the, for the poor kids that didn't get any mail from home to get recognized for what they were doing. Harry, I thank you for your service. And I thank you even more for this call. Thank you so much. Yeah, but I do want to take our final minutes to just take a moment to appreciate JD Vance, Bob, because, you know, he's, he's keeping me young in this campaign. I just, yeah, I've never, I just, I'm shocked. Like Dan Quayle got made fun of a lot, but he wasn't a drag on the campaign like this. I mean, I guess maybe Sarah Palin is comparable, but JD Vance just seems to be guaranteed to not help Trump get any of the groups Trump needs to try to get. Yeah, you know, I hate to defend Sarah Palin. I can't believe I'm in this place where I'm defending Sarah Palin. But you know what, she had charisma. She actually had something that would attract people to her. There was something there was a, you know, an X factor, but with JD Vance, you know, there's matter and anti matter. And I think what JD Vance has is anti charisma. He's got, so if, if there's a collision between JD Vance and Sarah Palin, it'll annihilate the universe is basically what I'm saying. Because JD Vance has like negative charisma. It's like charisma. He's like a charisma black hole. It's just amazing there. He puts on his human suit, human emotion. They send him out in public in his human suit. And I got to say, my favorite words, Bob in the world, have become JD Vance, paired with previous podcast appearance because they're never going to stop. I mean, this guy is just a, he's found something to offend every woman that's ever lived in every man who respects him. Mr. Sesca, what is the best way for our listeners to follow you and keep up with all your many doings? Well, as Don was saying, you can follow my podcast at patreon.com/BobSescaShow and wherever you get your podcasts. But if you want to subscribe to patreon pages, either BobSescaShow.com or patreon.com/BobSescaShow. So yeah, I said it twice because- That's okay. Don. Don has fired me. Yeah. Hell of a good show. Thank you, sir. Thanks for joining us. Quick break. 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Keith Giles is a former pastor. He left the pulpit to follow Jesus and he's the author of the best-selling seven-part Jesus un-book series like Jesus Unarmed, which is really worth buying. Especially on a day like this, he is a regular contributor to the pathios progressive Christian blog platform and the evil genius behind the God squad. Keith, welcome back. It's so good to be back. I didn't realize I was an evil genius, but I decided to be back. Are you kidding? You've got merch now. I've got a God squad t-shirt and a God squad mug. You're insane, man. December Rose is back. And how I missed her former pastor of the restoration center in Greenville, South Carolina and the rock worship center in West Union, South Carolina. She's the author of the church can go to hell, a jaw-dropping memoir and theological dive. The toxic reality of church culture. Pastor Rose, it is so good to see you again. Welcome back. Hey, boo. I have missed you. I hope you enjoyed your vacation and your family. And I'm glad to be back on the show. We then came in hot with the spicy language I'm here for. Okay, good. I know I missed you all very much. And I missed you guys at the DNC. It was incredible to actually go there and be in the room. It was like seeing all my favorite bands. I've never seen live. Oh, I've never seen Bill Clinton and Michelle Obama live before. Oh, Barack Obama's. It was like going to Woodstock and seeing all these people I've grown up watching. And they're all, who's next? Oh, you know, Hillary Clinton. I've never seen her. Dylan Cruz is with us. Writer, theologian, permaculture, enthusiast out of Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Dylan's book is theological musings. Volume one, it's a terrific collection of essays. And he is, of course, the official military veteran of the God's Quad. Dylan, it's good to see you. It's always good to be here, John. And yeah, let's talk about this Georgia thing. Let's talk about it because I should be used to it by now. I should be, I should be accustomed to this. It has happened so many dozens of times. I should be numb to it. I mean, and I can't, I can't let go of it. And it's all so preventable. Keith, what do we do at a time like this? I mean, we don't want to say thoughts and prayers. We don't want to fall into that trap. And yet it's so awful to feel so powerless to do anything to stop this. Yeah. Well, you know, someone mentioned to me today, we're talking this exact same thing. And someone mentioned, you know, you can pray for rain, but carry an umbrella. And so if we're going to pray for the families and pray for what's happening, we need to actually do something about it, right? And it, you know, I hope we never get used to it, John. I hope I never, ever get used to it. I hope I never hear another school shooting and keep scrolling. I hope it breaks my heart every time. And it needs to keep breaking your heart over and over and over again until we do something. I just saw a poll today. This is from April of last year that it was a Fox News poll that said more than 87% of Americans were in favor of common sense gun laws. Yeah. I think 81% in favor of banning assault weapons. And so it's not a question that the American people and this is across the board, you know, red or blue, people are tired of it. People do want something to be done about it. The majority of us want something to be done about it. What we don't have is leadership in Washington leadership at the state level. And even just ground soil leadership on the ground. People organizing together to say enough is enough. We have until, you know, we have some time now until the next school shooting. To try to do something about it. Because again, we're not talking about banning weapons. It's a simple thing. We can look and see that when Ronald Reagan banned assault weapons, gun violence went down. We know that it will work. That's right. And just simple things like red flag laws, making sure that like in this kid, they again, they have to be I knew about it. All right. Then there should have been measures in place to make sure that kid was nowhere near a weapon. And these are common sense things that we can do. This is all we're asking for just so that the next that there isn't a next one. Wouldn't that be great if we could finally say there won't be another one? But we have to do something. If it's going to happen, the world won't change until we change. We have to be the ones to make the change. I mean, Pastor Rose, like I said to our caller, Kendall, I fully support women having the right to own these weapons because women have shown that they're the one gender that apparently we can trust with them. Not a lot of mass shootings by women where they are 15. So I'm not against those people owning them, but all kidding aside, this is not a thing civilians need to own. I'm not anti guns. I'm not pro confiscation, but at some point you're a mom. You must be furious at this. When I saw that it broke my heart, like you, I have middle school. I have a six and seventh grader that I've returned to school this year. Nieces, nephews, cousins, all my little cousins, you know what I'm saying? And I'm thinking this can happen anywhere, anytime. Nobody is exempt from this. We send our children to school every day and we believe that they're going to be safe while they're there and we believe that when we get in the school line, we're going to be able to have our kid running out and they're going to be in one piece and they're going to be as healthy coming out as they were going in. But you know what that is not a guarantee. And it's less of a guarantee now than it has ever, ever been. And it doesn't make any sense. There's no logical reason for us to live like this. VP Harris said today it doesn't have to be this way. And it doesn't. That is true. Republicans will have you to believe and I don't want to put all Republicans in the same bucket because we are finding out every day more and more that not everybody is in one box. No matter what, Reagan and Ford, Reagan and Ford both supported the assault weapons. Republicans. I'm so glad that the record that we have of that ban ever having taken place in the United States have been under Republican presidents. I'm so glad they cannot paint a Democratic president to be this pariah of freedom or something like that. You know, I'm so glad of that. But the truth of the matter is in the bottom line is that people have placed their entertainment over the safety of their children. You said entertainment and I never thought of a gun as entertainment until you said that it had never those two words had never existed in my thoughts at the same time. You know, I know about hunting and this and that. But as far as a weapon that is specifically designed with the intent to kill as many humans as possible in the shortest time possible, the only reason you can own should own something would own something like that is for two reasons, maybe, which might be the one in the same, which is malicious intent or entertainment. That's it. Because there's no other there's no other civilian reason why you're not using it for hunting that there ain't no way. And the problem, the thing that irritates me have to death is this second amendment bullshit. They did not have this weapon when they wrote that and they did not intend for 14 year olds, 15, 16, 17, 18 year old lunatics running around here, shooting up schools. That wasn't in their thoughts. Was never in their thoughts. Hunting certainly in the fuck wasn't in their thoughts. No, and again, if you're using an AR 15 for hunting, you're bringing home ribbons of deer with buckshot. I mean, it's just it's madness. Dylan, you served in the armed forces. I mean, I don't even know where to begin with it at this point. The fact is that this is money in politics. And it doesn't matter that 90% of Americans after Sandy Hook wanted expanded background checks, Barack Obama wasn't even able to have an upper down vote on it because Mitch McConnell used the filibuster to block it. That's more popular than Christmas. And yet we couldn't even get an upper down vote. Yeah, I want to do a real quick history lesson. In 1842, Charles Dickens came to the United States and he went all over the country. And he wrote a book called American Notes. And then he wrote another book called Martin Chezzle with two years later. And in American Notes, one of the things that he vilified the United States of America for was the fact that people were ready to shoot each other or knife each other at the drop of a fucking hat. This was 1842. And then hope he satirized that in Martin Chezzle with. Let's fast forward. And for Kendall, I'm a former Marine, my dude. And you do not need an AR-15. It is damn near identical to an M1682. And when I learned to hunt at the in my teen years, I used a single shot 22 rifle. If I fucking missed, I didn't eat. So you don't need any of these fucking weapons to do the kind of things that you're talking about, Mr. Kendall, whoever you are. There have been 205 school shootings since 2018. There have been 24 this fucking year. America has made an idol out of guns. We might as well go make a giant fucking statue of a golden AR-15 and put it right in front of the Republican National Committee. That's our model. So they can go and bow down to it and masturbate to it, or whatever they want to do it. And sacrifice children to it. That's right. And it's their mola. They're sacrificing to mola. Yes. Yes. That's what they're doing. Keith, you got some mola content down there? No, I'm just going to say, yeah, an idol. The definition of an idol is anything you're willing to sacrifice your children to. And this is exactly right. Yeah, I think I thought a year or so ago after the, you know, the millionth school shooting, I made a meme myself. And it was, well, once I was a picture of school children, on the other side was a picture of guns. And it said, "America, choose which one you want. Whichever one you keep, you're going to end up losing the other one." Right. And that's the truth. You know, what are we choosing? We're choosing guns. We're choosing the Second Amendment over the lives of children. The number one killer of children in this country are guns. Let me respond to that real quick. We're not choosing the Second Amendment over children. We're choosing guns over children. Correct. Correct. The Second Amendment has been misrepresented. Oh, yeah, listen, actually, that's a good point. There's nothing wrong with the Second Amendment. That's right. They're choosing guns over children. I'm in favor of the Second Amendment because it says, well regulated. Right now, what we're asking for is some regulation. That's what we'd like to see. Well, well regulated militia means unregulated dudes, just so you understand. I want to get to our callers because a lot of people want to weigh in on this. But let me just ask you one more thing. These folks, I mean, Dylan, these civilians who think they should have these weapons, they don't support gang members being allowed to have tactical nukes. They don't support gang members being allowed to have access to white phosphorus or grenade launchers or Sherman tanks. So we've already agreed to some limitations on our Second Amendment rights. And I'm really waiting for Democrats to start bringing this up a little bit. If you don't think the crypts and the bloods should have access to nuclear weapons, you accept limitations on the Second Amendment yourself. Yeah. I mean, there are armor piercing rounds that will go through a half inch of steel if they're fired from a 50 caliber machine gun. I know this because I did it in the United States Marine Corps. I fired a 50 cow. It's enormous. No civilian needs that. And if you say, well, does a civilian need a 50 cow? Most people with more than two active brain cells will say, absolutely not. Right. But there will be a small minority. They're like, well, the government's gone and I got to have it. Look, you're never overthrowing the world's largest army with the world's largest nuclear fucking arsenal. You're not going to do that. Joe blow hook and frogger. Yeah, they will. They'll bring an AR 15 to a drone fight, Dylan. You know that you know they'll do it. It's infuriating because at the time when the when the Second Amendment was written, it was written by a member of the Enslaving Flash James Madison. He wrote it as such so that the South could have their slave patrols. And so everybody would have a gun and they didn't want the new federal government to supersede the state militias. So they wrote it as it was. And we didn't have a standing army at the time. Right. That's right. Now we have we spend $878 billion on our standing fucking armies. So this whole unfettered access argument is absolute horseshit. Yeah, but you know what? There's a lot of money that's being paid to keep that horseshit, the law of the land. And then December pointed out, I subscribe to the NRA mailings. I know I'm going to get these emailings on the next 24 hours telling me how Kamala Harris is coming to take your guns just like they told me Bill Clinton would. Just like they tell me Barack Obama would just like they told me Joe Biden would none of them ever did. Let's let a couple listeners weigh in on this. I'm so glad you guys are here tonight. Lisa is in the vader on line five. Lisa, thank you so much for waiting on hold. You're on SiriusXM with the God squad. Good evening. Hi, Lisa. Oh, we have Lisa. Lisa. Hi. Oh, yeah. You're up. Hey. Yes. Oh, my God. Welcome. Hi. I'm really excited. I've never called him before. Oh, I'm so honored. Thank you. Because yeah, no, um, so I just, I'm just going to look quick. A little backstory. So I'm really disgusted with mainstream media and I hadn't ever really, I'm always listening to MSNBC. My husband told me I needed to tune in. He literally changed my life. I'm so happy to have found the station and I called in. You actually have me calling because when you talk to Kendall, I don't think you should apologize because that is how I feel. But you can't say those things, right? And so I'm just so happy. Thanks, thanks to the house at Howard Stern, built. I can say those things. Fuck you, FCC. I can be that vulgar and more. I can't though. It's like I can't work or I can't, but you can and I'm glad you did. And I feel. Oh, it's encouraged here. I appreciate you. I appreciate you. Thank you so much. Thank you. You're grateful to you. But, um, so one of your, um, so gun violence. I mean, there's so many things to be upset about now, but gun violence is my single issue. Like it's so upsetting. So I know you all mentioned, you know, some of your parents. I am a mom to two 16 year old boys. And it's just terrifying. You know, you can't send them to a movie theater or anything, right? School. Actually, my kids are in online school and it's a long story for that. You don't have time for that. But honestly, one of the great things about that is we don't have to worry about school shootings. Right. I think it's so terrifying. And I think that, you know, we're always talking about the dead kids, which is just heartbreaking. And sadly, I'm a very empathetic person. I wish I wasn't sometimes. I wish I just didn't give a shit. No, no, no, no. You don't wish that. That could be my kid. That could be my kid. That could be my mom. That could be somebody I love. And that's how I live my life. And I feel like the Republican party, they're, you know, I can't give excuses for them anymore. These people. I mean, I know you said you can't lump them all in, but I'm sorry. If you are voting Republican, you are the problem. You don't give a shit about gun violence. The people, the Republicans don't give a shit about it. The politicians. So I'm sorry. Own it. You have bloody hands. And I just, I can't get the feeling that you're not a good person. Like, Jesus, you're good at this. You should call into radio shows all the time. Lady, you're good at this. Let me, let me bring in, let me bring in Pastor Rose on this. I love it. Let me bring in Pastor Rose on this because I, she's saying everything we said. December, she's a mom as well. And it's like mom's vote. Hey, love. I agree with you. I love voting. I live in the same state. We're going to vote, man. Right on. She sounds fired. I've been ready to go. Listen, it is what it is. And I, I, I, I stray away from being a single issue voter. But in this case, damn right. Because you know what? This is our future. These are our children. This is the country we have to live in. And there's no modern country. There's no industrialized country. There's no country with anywhere near our level of whatever you want to call it. Correct. Dealing with this issue. Correct. This is a, this is a isolated issue to the United States. But December, isn't it true that other countries are dealing with this issue. But in fairness, other countries don't have mental illness. And other countries don't have violent video games. Only we have those things, right? So that's why it happens. Yeah, let me tell you what they don't have. What they don't have is weapons of mass destruction and war on the streets in civilians' hands and open carry laws. What they don't have is parents who think it's okay. Apparently, for their teenagers to have access to what is literally a machine gun. I don't care what's what Kendall talking about. Because if one weapon could kill 60 people in 60 seconds and one other weapon could kill 60 people in 60 seconds, if you just put a bump stock on it, what the fuck is the difference? I promise you, the families at the other end of those bodies can't tell the difference. They don't know the serial number difference. They don't know the making the model difference. They don't give a fuck about their difference. The bodies don't know the difference. I promise you that shit right there. Man, I missed you guys. I missed you guys. That's how it seems kind of off topic. Trump ain't got shot with no motherfucking AR. Nothing in his ear or nowhere close to his face. Thank you. Thank you. Walk away with no stitches and no scars. And that motherfucker has the nerve to have another Band-Aid on the other goddamn day. Yeah. Why there are some children out here that didn't wake up. And this fool walking around with a damn Band-Aid on again the other day. Lisa, I'll give you the last word Lisa. And everybody that's holding for them is foolish. Amen. So here. Go ahead Lisa. The only word to say is that, you know, like we're forgetting about. It's like trauma. Like so Reno School just had a lockdown yesterday or the day before. And I think it was a mistake. But I just talked to a mom who's a gym teacher of another school. And she's like, well my kid, everybody, all the kids thought it was. They thought there was really a school shooting. And that's trauma. And this is teachers. It's not just the poor, dead kids, which obviously, I mean, that is a hard thing. But it's our freaking teachers. Anybody, right? Movie theaters, like college kids. It's just, it's so unacceptable. It's so un-American. And I'm freaking sick of these Republicans. And I'm angry. And I'm over them. Like I'm not going to give them a pass anymore. Like if you're doing this shit, you're not a good person. Like vote Democratic. And let's get these people out. And let's change the filibuster because that's the only way. God bless you Lisa. Let's pass them. But one more thing. Vote Democratic and then kick their asses every day. The worst thing is people vote Democratic and then check out. You got to kick there. You got to hold their feet to the fire every day. Lisa, thank you so much. All right, good. You're good at this. Call us more often. Thank you. Here's another point. I want to get to another call. But I mean, Dylan, when people are fighting for civilians to have access to these weapons, what they're really saying is it's acceptable that cops should have to face AR-15s. After you've all day, when 2,500 cops are afraid to enter a room because a one crackpot kid with this murder weapon, they're saying cops should have to face criminals armed with mass kill machines. Are they not? Well, yeah, absolutely. And a, no cop wants to do that because no sane person wants to have to stare down the barrel of a weapon that can kill that many people that fast. And to kindle his other point about arming teachers. These fine folks have way more important things to do than tactical weapons training. Yeah. You put a gun into the hand of somebody who's never used it, who's never had any kind of training in a tactical situation. And it's a recipe for fucking disaster. That's right. Yeah. The military had to switch from sort of set piece battles and that, you know, infantry formations and all that to this hardcore urbanized warfare situation. And it's specialized training that the armed forces go through for this urban warfare like you would face in maybe a building like a school. With lots of doors and lots of different rooms. There is absolutely no fucking way that arming teachers is going to do anything other than get more people fucking killed. That's right. And I'm sorry. But they don't care. They don't care in perfect follower of Jesus. And I'm not supposed to say fuck this much, but God damn it. Nah, I'm not, I'm not, I know it is. Let me go over to Nicole in Texas on line four, who's been on hold forever. Nicole, thank you so much. You're on with the God squad. Hello. Hello, hello, hello, John. You know, I'm a retired teacher. So today is a hard break. I don't even have my, you know, my usual for you, my love. So I was in my classroom listening to breaking news on Sandy Hook. And the last time I was in the public school classroom, I was listening to breaking news about your val day. I was a teacher that encouraged your parent to leave you there because I was going to have cupcakes and movies. Yeah, I would have been the teacher that said, no, you go. Y'all, it's okay. Leave them here. We're going to kick it. Okay, yeah, I would have been a teacher that encouraged that. So my God squad December, I was going to follow you on Amazon. I followed you guys all over the social media. I thank you. Thank you. Thank you for doing the Lord's work really for breaking a real light back to, to the faith as a person who like I say, loves Mary and her boy. What I see for her. I were picked for a ambassador of the brand just really runs me hot. And to our professor, his story, and John and I always say, the reason why we know this country is not founded as a religious nation. We discussed this often. I'm going to move my petty ass to Oklahoma and convert to Jehovah's Witness. So I can tell all these evangelical kids. They're not one of the 144 and they're all going to help. Don't do it. Don't do it. Oh, man, man. We're on the attack of my shit and leave Houston and go there just because I can go into the class. I'm just going to say, I want to say to them, people, kids, I go home and tell your momma to go to the hospital and go to the clinic. I'm going to play in about this. It's the first thing I speak with. Tell your momma. What was the name of the colony? Who was the founder? And the very next column is what is the religion of the colony? We would never, the Catholics wouldn't put the Baptist in charge. The Protestants didn't want to listen to them. The other part, the Quakers could start. Y'all were all going to hell. And by the way, by the way, the founders all owned slaves. So except for the Quakers, none of them took Christianity seriously. Except for the Quakers, none of them took Jesus seriously. I'm a mane and, you know, somewhere to be bred there over there. And I just want to say, John, you know, I love you. I'm allergic into the next column. But as a mom who drops a 16-year-old off to a high school every single day, as a 40-something-year-old woman who should still be helping special education students, there are millions of teachers across the country that are not going to risk our lives to leave our biological children with no parent because society can't get its shit together. It's okay. Kendall has a plan to arm those teachers. Kendall has a plan to have, by magic, the money will appear in a bag and it'll be used to train and arm all those teachers. So they have a plan. It's the same budget they can't provide. Libraries, art teachers, music, decent playgrounds. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Love you. This is not going to turn out. Preach, preach. Preach. Professional National Guards. Baby, get to the next column. I love y'all. See you when you get to the one of them. Love is not a strong enough word. Thank you, Nicole. Thank you so much. Keith Giles, how do we follow you and keep up with your work? Well, my books are on Amazon and you can catch me, and Ellen, and December tomorrow night and every Thursday night on TheGodSquadPod.com. We do a live GodSquad show on social media. Join us at GodSquadPod.com. 8 p.m. Eastern time. And how do people get the merch? How do people get the merch I got? Well, if GodSquadPod.com, you'll find it there too. Dylan Cruz, how do we follow you and keep up with your work? Tatsu theologian is my blog and my books are on Amazon. And Pastor Rose? The same on my Amazon and TheGodSquadPod, and it's D-E-S-I-M-D-E-R, Rose. Now, you were dropping some real wisdom during the break, December, and I want you to just share a little bit of it with people because I like when you get riled up about these sort of things on a moral level. I just wanted to circle back to something Kendall said. He implied or stated flatly that had someone with the AR-15 been present, that this either wouldn't have happened or wouldn't have been at bad, would have been at bad. And he was trying to make the claim that more guns, I'm in the Teach with Guns and more guns, all of these lunatics make this claim. More guns does not equal more safety, period. You, Volley is the perfect, what I think made you Volley so tragic, is all these police, they were so armed and present. And kids were being shot and mowed down inside the building while they did nothing. And they were terrified. And these guys say, these guys say armed cops. Yes, right. You know, it doesn't make sense. One more point to them. It has been disproven several times. But especially with you, Volley, a gun against a gun does not mean lives saved. And by the way, if you have a gun, if you have a gun on you and you think that you're going to stop the shooter, God bless, I hope you do. But when the cops show up and they see people running around with guns, are they going to ask who's on the good side and who's on the bad side? In hell, don't be black. Don't be exactly right. Because we got to have a gun in the book. When the book is so black, you are automatically criminal. We got plenty of data for that. You're going to get shot dead. No, that is happening. That is happening. Yeah. Well, I mean, Philando Castile, I mean, my God, it's on tape. Like he said, though, my gun is in the glove box and my permit. They said, Joe is the permit. He goes, OK, I'm reaching over careful. They killed him in front of a skin. They assume you black, your skin is a weapon and a threat. It's going to be black and call the police and be listened. And let me say this right quick. I don't know if we got time, but that right to carry. It ain't for every goddamn, but I'm going to tell you that right now. Because let him walk down the street with the AR 15. OK, you know how I know, just like, you know, why the shooter was white because he still got down a line. He's still alive. That's how we knew it. Let me get to a call before the break. Mike in Michigan on line six wanted to say hi to the God squad. Mike, welcome. You're on SiriusXM. Hey, guys. Thanks for letting me on. First off, I just wonder if you guys have ever heard of a Whirly gig. I've heard the word before. What's a Whirly gig? My brother made me want it. It's like a little propeller. It's like a windmill. OK. That nation shaft where it makes things move. OK. He's got a little American flag on the back. He's got this guy. Pounded rocks and he's dressed in a prison uniform. And it looks like Donald Trump. But I thought you'd like. Oh, OK, right. It's like a pinwheel for your yard decoration, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK. All right, I'll get right on. Well, thanks for that. But hey, I didn't Jesus say put away your swords? Yes, yes, yes. Very clearly. He's a nice sword back in thy sheath because he who lives by the sword will die by the sword. Yeah, hey, that's a tough question for you guys. Maybe you can have an answer. You know, I believe in I used to be anti homosexual, but I'm not anymore. I believe that people are born that way. OK. And yeah, that's yeah, hundreds of mammalian species would would corroborate that. Yeah, but how do you look at Romans 1, 26, and 27 for this cause gave them up onto vile affections, even their women. Oh, please, yeah, it's rubbish. It's Paul. It's Paul talking about the Romans in past tense. He never meant his letters to be scripture. It's not God. It's not Jesus. And he's not talking about gay people. He's talking about straight guys that God gave over to hooking up with other straight guys. Because there are zero gay people in that story. Yeah, the context of Romans 1 is it read the whole thing beginning to end, and the context for the whole thing of worshipping idols. I like to ask people to do this when you read Romans 1 and read it as if all the sexual acts he's describing are heterosexual acts between men and women. His point would still be the same because he's not condemning the kind of sex they're having. He's condemning having sex to worship idols. It's all about idol worship. And none of us would read that if we read Romans that way and the sexual acts described were between men and women. No one would close chapter one and go, "Well, I guess God doesn't like sex between men and women." But we do what is described as same sex. But so that's a mistake. And it never says women with women either, right? It never says to women with women. But here's the thing though. Here's the thing people really totally miss about Romans 1. Keep reading because when you get to Romans 2, turn the page to the chapter 2. And in chapter 2, Paul says, "Yeah, you hate all those people. You think all those people are filthy and gross and disgusting, and God hates those filthy sinners. Are you any better? Because you break the law too." That's exactly right. Paul is setting you up. Paul is setting you up. Keith, thank you. Dylan, thank you. December, thank you. Don't go anywhere. This is SiriusXM Progress. I'm John Feigle saying. Okay, it's time to commit. 2024 is the year for prioritizing yourself. Begin your new smile journey with BITE. And you could start seeing results in just two to three weeks. Just order your at-home impression kit today for only 1495 at BITE.com. 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I took a week off and then we had a week with all these Democrats in the super spreader arena in Chicago. So, we missed having all of our regular guests. It would have been almost impossible to have our regulars on because it was so damn loud in that place. It was loud. At least in my living room, it was loud. Before we get into anything, tell us about the podcast. Oh my gosh, the podcast, the podcast dropped today. First episode where we talk about AI and robotics with a Norway-based expert in AI and innovation. His name is Thomas Engolero and it is a fabulous conversation. And I've got tons of episodes planned. They're going to drop once a week and they are on Patreon. They are on YouTube and there's a little bit of a teaser that's out anywhere you can find your favorite podcast. Nice, nice. And tell me, how's it been going? I mean, you've been prepping this for a while. How do you feel about it now that it's finally launching? It's fun. Before the launching, I was a little bit stressed out over trying to wrap my head around it and really trying to create what I envisioned in my head, which was a podcast. No media narratives, no commentators, no pundits. Completely all my brand of Tracy explains, except it's not me doing the explaining. It's the experts in finding. And we had an incredible response. We've had over 1,000 pitches come in and they keep coming. PR agencies have found us and they keep coming. And so it's a lot of fun reading through these. I've got stacks and stacks of books to read because we've got more folks that we're booking and we're going to be booking into the next year. Oh, that's great. You are so good on camera. You're such a good host and I'm so glad that you're doing this. I think you're a great broadcaster. And one more time about the Patreon? It is on Patreon. There are a number of different memberships, three different memberships. Comes with a lot of different features and extras. And then there's also sort of a mid-level on YouTube that you can join membership. And there's free gifts on Patreon. There's lots of discount codes. You get a free sub stack subscription and you know my sub stack. So yeah, I'm trying to give everybody everything that I can give them and get them listening and learning again because TV sucks. And when it's called What We Don't Know and are you learning a lot that you didn't know? Yeah, I am. It's really an opportunity for me to sit there and ask great questions, if I do say so myself, and talk about really neat issues. I mean, we've got planned people who are going to come in and talk about food safety, medical gas lighting, things like shortages of pediatric neurologists and the problem that it creates for kids with or who they think have autism and how they're trying to find a workaround for that. Just incredible people, people across the pond who have written books on foreign media and Donald Trump. I mean, you name it, I'm hitting it. Are you going to cover the Kremlin using disinformation and spending $10 million to get right-wing podcasters to be even more right-wing because they know what divides us? Yeah, I'm sure we're going to talk about that with these folks. It is incredible that we're back here again, having the same old silly situation with what's going on, but TikTok is TikTok and it's going to TikTok and the people on TikTok are going to do that. I mean, this was incredible. This was, you know, Russia, basically the RT, the state-run television station, paying a content creation company to produce videos that went out on YouTube and TikTok and they made millions doing that. 16 million views, 16 million views for 10 million bucks. Yeah, it was insane. And so they've been charged and, of course, you know, remain. At least the Russian folks have been charged with, I believe, its potential violations of the foreign registration agent act and money laundering, conspiracy, money laundering. So yeah, and then there's all sorts of money laundering going on, apparently, on TikTok in full view, which has nothing to do with Russia. Well, yeah, can you explain this to me? Because I've never listened. I feel more old and amish every day. Every day there's an expression that the kids are using that I should know and I don't. What is check kiting, Dr. Tracey? Well, yeah, that's not an expression the kids are using. This is an expression that, me, as I've lived a life of a thousand cats. And so I had been a teller at a bank for a while when I was in college. You were. Oh, wow. And check kiting. What you do is you write a check to yourself on your own bank account and you deposit it and then you pull that money out that you do not have. And because the bank can't necessarily discern what's happening, depending on what's going on with their software, at least back in the day that you absolutely couldn't. JP Morgan got, Chase, JP Morgan got completely screwed by a bunch of TikTokers who were videotaping themselves doing the writing the checks and going down to the ATM and pulling the money out. And they were engaging in a felony. It's called kiting and it sounds, it is exactly what it sounds like. You're stringing in the bank along and you're making money that you don't have and you lose that money, obviously. And it is a felony. It is money laundering. So what they're doing is they write a bad check to themselves and they film this. They deposit the check at an ATM and then they withdraw the cash before the bank can bounce the check. So you got to be broke to do this in the first place. Yes, absolutely. And so they're pulling out thousands of dollars. And so it is something that when I heard it, I said, well, it's kiting, number one. I knew what the term was. It was trained very well on it back in the day. And secondly, they're filming themselves doing this shit and they think it's some new trend. I mean, and they're posting the videos. They're posting the videos, but isn't it true that the TikTok videos were showing this as sort of like, oh, here's a glitchy thing in the matrix you can take advantage of. Not an actual crime. Like it was showed as a fun thing you can do that you're allowed to do. And people get away with this. Look, we're doing it here. And so people went and tried to check kite against Chase. Yes, absolutely. I mean, what happened to the fun dances? Can we go back to the fun dances? Can we go back to the Celine Dion with the mop and the hairdryer or the blow leaf blower? Can we go back to doing that stuff? Because this shit's going to get you in jail. I mean, this is nonsense. And everything old is new. It's fraud. It's not nonsense. It's check fraud, right? Like this is literally videos that are teaching people how to go to jail really easily. It is. And it gets a little bit more complicated with the whole jail stuff, but you have to have formed the intent. But at the same time, there's no ignorance to the law. That's not a defense. So the fact that you don't realize that you're actually committing a crime, and it's not a glitch in the matrix, you're still going to probably go to jail. And also, you're going to pay back the bank, all those thousands of dollars that you never had. And don't forget, the angle that I had heard about is that this involves depositing the check via an ATM, which means you're doing the whole thing on camera. And you can't deny that it's not you. Oh, it's not a game for smart people. I think we've established that, right? Like it's a suckers, I mean, it's just a trap. It's not just that that, yeah, I mean, the ATM cameras get new, but you're also getting a second camera shot from your own camera because they're videotaping themselves. I mean, it's absolutely insane. I mean, I just don't understand where I'm getting old is what it is. This generation, what this generation is doing, I am getting old. There was one guy, sorry, that's fascinating me too. There was one guy who took your money out of the bank in the deposit, they took the deposit and got a payday loan. And so now he's in for like tens of like $40,000. But it's like a trap for gullible morons. I mean, it's made for gullible morons. But again, they marketed this. The people who made the TikTok videos saying it was just a glitch of the free market. And America knows how to manufacture dumb people. And you have to wonder why? I mean, why the heck are people doing this? And why aren't you researching it if you think that this is something you can do? First of all, just think about it. You're writing yourself a check. I mean, no, where is it? It's not like it's going to be hard to track down the perpetrator when the bank realizes the funds were never there. Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's insane. It's absolutely insane. We used to have to make sure, you know, you came into the bank, you have to make sure when you do the ATM, the ATM technology isn't all that great anymore still. I mean, it's still just a basic machine. TikTok is ruining crime, ruining the joys of fraud. Dr. Tracey, we have a lot of listeners who want to say hi. Do you want to talk to some of our evil army of the night? Of course. Cassinia is calling from Utah. Cassinia, welcome. It's good to have you back. You're on SiriusXM with Dr. Tracey. Good evening. Hi, how are you? Hi, you're welcome. Hi, I'm calling because I, I shared our conversation that we had yesterday with my friend I told you about who is trying to convince me to vote for. Jill Stein. Yes. And I just wanted to share his thoughts about our conversation with you. Okay, sure. Go ahead. Go ahead, please. So he said, he said, God, I admit this guy does a good job at pretending to be progressive, but as a progressive, he should know that the DNC rigged the primaries by limiting polling locations in places where Bernie would have gotten more of the vote. That's not rigging. It's not rigging. Hillary Clinton got more votes. I was a Bernie guy. I supported, I'm not a Democrat, but I supported Bernie. I donated to him. I voted for him in California as an open primary state. Hillary got more votes. Go ahead. No. And then he said, so when he says that Hillary got more support, he's not acknowledging that she got more support because they got rid of polling locations in places where they where there were more burning supporters. So people had to drive further to caucus. They had to wait longer in lines. And on top of that, you were not allowed to give water or food to people who were waiting in line. Yeah, I think he's confusing it with a general election. I think he's confusing it. And again, my whole point is I only criticize people who vote third party in swing states. I have voted third party in both New York and California when I lived in both of those states, but it's guys who don't have uteruses who were too pure to compromise their ethics and vote for Hillary Clinton in seven swing states in 2016. And that's the reason abortion rights are now banned at the federal level. Go ahead and vote. You're in Utah. You're in Utah. Vote vote third party in Utah. Go ahead. It's not going to impact the final race. But if you do it in a swing state, you are helping Republicans. Go ahead. He said it's disgusting and despicable that he's using that kind of voter shaming against men who voted for Jill Stein in 2016. That's okay. Why don't you tell your friend to call the show? Why don't you give your friend the number and invite your friend to call the show any time and we can talk about women's rights? Because again, I have no problem with third party in a safe blue or red state. It's in a swing state where a vote for Jill Stein helps Donald Trump. And we know that's true because it helps Donald Trump in 2016. So about the rigging, he said in 2020, it was rigged against Bernie again. And he was-- Then why didn't Bernie complain? Then why did Bernie was never the front runner in 2020? Why didn't Bernie complain? Bernie campaigned. Bernie did more appearances for Hillary Clinton in 2016 than Hillary Clinton did for Barack Obama in 2008. And Bernie Sanders did a ton of appearances for Joe Biden. And he does appearances for Kamala Harris this year. Bernie Sanders disagrees with your friend. Well, my feeling is that Bernie Sanders did that because he feels like he has to because-- Oh, so has your friend called Bernie Sanders a fake progressive then? Has your friend singled out Bernie as a fake progressive? Or am I just the lucky one here? He says that when Bernie Sanders endorses the candidate, like Harry Clinton or Kamala Harris, that we're not his lap dog and we're not entitled. Well, okay, so your friend sounds like a real fresh thinker. Listen, just congratulate your friend every time a woman bleeds out in an emergency room parking lot in a state that spanned abortion rights because he's part of that movement. And he can be a part of it again. Tell him it's not too late for him to move to Michigan, change his residency, and try to help Donald Trump there as well, okay? And again, I encourage you, give your friend this number and tell your friend to call any night. Please, he's welcome to. I have voted third party. I've had Jill Stein on this show three times in the past. I'm not afraid to discuss it, okay? We just wish we could get a real progressive in because. So do I. So do I. When has that ever happened? But when has it ever happened? The most progressive president of the of the of the last 75 years was a racist from Texas who no one thought would ever be a good president and then President Kennedy was killed. And his racist, Texan, vice president Johnson ascends and became the greatest civil rights president of the last 75 years. So, I mean, we've never had a great liberal. We've just had moderates who wound up accidentally doing great things like Lincoln. FDR was a definitely a liberal by those standards and by today's standards as well. But he had an incredible majority in the Congress that allowed him to be a liberal president. So tell your friend he's welcome to call. I'll be I'll be I promise I'll be nice to him, okay? He says that a vote for green party, even a swing state is not a throwaway vote because of course he says that. Okay. Well, you know what? Tell your friend. I said tell your friend. I said his arguments are boring and I've had Jill Stein in the show and tell your friend. I can tell he doesn't have a uterus, which is why he talks like this. Okay. Will you do that for me? Because I got to go. I got other folks who want to talk. Okay. Thank you. You are lovely and I appreciate your call 866 997 4748 Dr. Tracy. I want to give you a chance to respond to the Jill Stein true believers out there. Because again, I'm not going to compromise my vote with one of these incrementalist Democrats. No, I'm going to I just, you know, it might my response to the third party is this statistically if we had a strong third party that the Senate and the House would decide the president and the vice president every single time. And and that's been that's been demonstrated statistically. You can go back to all the past elections. And if we had a strong third party, the people would not have decided the vote. Your brain works in such a way that people categorize things like, for example, you either want social security or you don't either want to, you know, favor abortion or you don't either. You know, I mean, there's there's a diad here when it comes to politics. And as far as Bernie's concerned, I like Bernie. I've told you, I mean, I'm starting to come around to some Bernie's ideas, especially when it comes to money. But Bernie only becomes a Democrat when he wants to run. Yeah, he's independent. You know, I mean, I if you want a real progressive, go find one and draft one. Because everybody's sitting on their asses and they're not doing anything. They're expecting one to sort of manifest themselves in front of you. And that's just not the way shit works. Look, and I agree with you. And I think if Bernie Sanders had been the nominee in 2016, he could have won, but it would have been a referendum on socialism, not a referendum on Donald Trump. I think if Hillary Clinton had picked Bernie Sanders as her running mate instead of Kim Kane, God bless, she would have been elected no problem and had incredible enthusiasm behind them. And Donald Trump would not have picked three mother fucking Supreme Court justices to take rights away from Americans. And by the way, to Cassinia, if you're still listening, one of our listeners, Nostra Adam Russ said, she should get your friend's opinion on the photo of Jill Stein at dinner in Russia with Michael Flynn and Vladimir Putin. And have your friend call us. We'll talk about that photo sometime, because I stopped having Jill Stein on the show, because I only saw this lady when she wasn't running for office the other four years, only when it's time to clear the deal with Putin money for a Democrat. So yeah, no, no friend of democracy as far as I'm concerned. No, I agree. I agree. Let me go to Wayne and Michigan on line one. Wayne, good evening and welcome. You're on SiriusXM with Dr. Tracy Pearson. Hey, Wayne. Hi, Wayne. Hello. How are you? Good. How are you? Good. It's Wayne from Michigan, and the reason I'm calling tonight is two things. One, I met you with the sexy liberal and I talked about my common 100 million effort. And I think we should overwhelm the vote and basically Maduro has asked. But that's not why I'm calling. Okay, I'd love to see it. I mean, 81 million, 81 millions, the record Biden holds the record with 81 million, or should I say Trump holds the record with 81 million voting against him? But that's the most ever voted against one man ever. Go ahead. The 100 million effort is to make sure we win the down ballot races and people don't get complacent. But anyway, what I'm calling is the shooting in Georgia today, which is we don't have to go in our tragic. It is because it definitely is. But I'm thinking that the FBI needs to have the force of law behind them for when they identify somebody that might be a shooter. It's happened more than once. It's a matter of fact, it's happened more than a few times where the FBI will have the sheriff's office or somebody talk to someone who convinces them that this person is not volatile enough to lock up. But we need a way for the FBI to keep track of these people in a way that doesn't surprise us or disappoint us as it has this week. What about registering all guns the way we register cars? Oh, my God. That's way, way beyond our reach. But I agree. Yeah. Tracy, you know, we did. This was a 13 year old child at the time. The FBI interviewed him in Georgia. And a 13 year old child minor has some special rights. When it comes to questioning, parents have to be present. But you know, the parent made some representations about what when the gun was available or what it was the gun was never unsupervised with the child. And, you know, basically we've screwed this up when the second amendment was interpreted. And John has talked about this a lot. But we've messed this up. And this is so far out of the gate at this point, you know, but 13 year old kids, you know, have because their developmental status are not you can't you can't track a 13 year old child for the rest 13 year old child's life. And it's the FBI that goes on in and does these interviews. Right on. Go ahead. For the same way, for the same way they convicted someone in Detroit, for their child performing murders in Oakland at a school, they have to assign responsibility or at least evaluate the parents. Because in Georgia, there is no law that says you have to supervise the rights or the visibility of a handgun or any gun in a home with children. That's a specific law there. That's right. Yeah. You don't have to don't have to secure it in any way. That's that's how the temp wants it. Yeah. So the the parent and the child are a contiguous unit there. When you have to decide that since the kid has access to the gun, it's not because of the developmental status. It's because of the developmental insanity. I agree with you. But in this case, I'm talking no, no, no, but in tracking when it comes to a 13 year old child and and what steps have to be taken when you when you interview a child because of their age and their susceptibility and their, their, um, manipulate ability. Right. I think we're talking to different things. Yeah. When it comes to the liability, you're going to you're going to have to jump through some hoops here because it is Georgia and because you have to have very specific laws on the books. Um, yeah. And the laws are no laws. Just have your guns lying all over the house and it's no problem and kids can buy their own rifles too. Right. I mean, okay. When we had common law criminal law, which was case made law, it would be something that might be be attemptable. But when our criminal codes became actual code statutes, you got to have it in there in order to to bring the charge. You can't enact one today and then bring the charge for conduct that was committed previously. Um, that's. Could there be, could there be mandatory counseling for someone like this? Because he had to come to their attention somehow. Why did they interview a 13 year old child? Had they had anonymous tips. There were anonymous tips. In fact, the FBI and the Atlanta division put out a statement tonight. And what it what it says is that, um, that they interviewed or the Sheriff's County interviewed a possible subject after the FBI's National Threat Operations Center received several anonymous tips about online threats to commit a school shooting at an unidentified location and time in 2023. The FBI determined that the online post originated in Georgia. FBI's Atlanta Field Office referred the information to the Jackson County Sheriff's Office for Action. They did an interview. They talked to the father, um, and the subject denied making the threats online and that the Jackson County alerted the local schools for continued monitoring of the subject. So they they did do, you know, quote, continued monitoring. But the reality is, is if somebody wants to shoot up a school, they're going to shoot up a school and and under the current rubrics that we have now. They will be able to shoot up a school if they have easy access to the weapon. I think we're all technically on the same side. Wayne, I'll give you the last word. Your knowledge is stunning on that. And I really appreciate that for a lot of things I didn't know. But what I'm saying is there could be a law that would mandate counseling to keep an eye on people like this without putting them in the that's what I agree and red flag laws are a step towards that. But I also just don't think civilians need to own machines designed only to kill lots of humans really fast. There's no civilian use for yeah, bless us everyone. Wayne, thank you very much for the call. I appreciate you 866-997-4748 866-997. Tracy, I got I got mad earlier. I had a one of our one of our trolls called in who was a very pro AR 15. And you know, things that we'd have to get used to these sort of things. I mean, this is this is just the consequence of having freedom, a freedom that other countries that don't have mass shootings don't enjoy. No, no, we don't. But I back to Wayne's point. I think it for example, in New Hampshire, we had a statue called child in need of services. It's called a chins. And when it's not criminal conduct, they can bring a chins petition and they can have the the child get out of a sort of services that the parents can't provide. So counseling, all sorts of things. Under these circumstances, you might have been able to do that in New Hampshire where while they hadn't committed a crime, there was something disturbing going on here. And if they could have proven it, and child gets an attorney and the whole thing, and there's a whole process, but that the child would have gotten counseling, all the counseling in the world. I mean, I'll point people to Nicholas Cruz, all the counseling in the world. He had special Ed intervention, all sorts of things. It's a great point. Great point. Let me go to Pam, an Oregon online five Pam. Thank you so much for calling. You're on Sirius XM. Hi, Pam. Hi. Hello. I was calling about the third party. I was going to say, I had voted before for Ralph Nader, not the time that he drew the election, you know, without Gore, but the other time. But I'll never vote for a third party again. They don't have a chance of winning. I why can't somebody like Jill Stein, why can't these people do something like work in the government to get it changed? Yeah, I know. Why can't Robert Kennedy? Exactly. Because it's ridiculous. It is a wasted vote. And I slightly disagree with you. I agree that if they're not in a swing state, it doesn't matter about the presidential, but they need to do the down ballot, Democrat, until we can get something better. I've actually voted for green, also down ballot. But I really don't think I would again, because it's made me so angry. I understand that feeling. I'm a great part of me is going to blame Jill Stein. And if you ever have her on again, I will not have her on again. I'm not going to have her on again. But you know, like I think our greatest president, our greatest president was a third party president. And he got in with 38% of the vote. And he was the first Republican president when they were a third party. And his name was Lincoln. So I'm not against third parties in theory. And I think if you're dissatisfied with the Democratic Party, I understand wanting to help build a movement. But I say again and again, I don't blame Ralph Nader for the Iraq war. I blame 90,000 jerk offs in Florida who knew they were in a battleground state and voted for Ralph Nader anyway. I don't think it's too complicated. If you're in a swing state, you got to suck it up boo boo and vote for the Democrat, you can go ahead and have your liberal fantasy and safe red or blue states. But otherwise, let's stay on message, man. Sorry. If you don't like it, move out, move out of a swing state and vote third party all you want. But that's how it is. I was feel like moving into a swing state, just so my vote will count more. I love you. I love that thought. Yeah. Well, hey, Michigan's beautiful this time of year. But I don't know. I don't know if I could do that, but I would like to. So well, I appreciate you. Thank you. I called a while back. I just wanted to tell you, and I'm the one that asked about the American because I was and you said you thought it was Kenny Hoyer. It is Kenny Hoyer. But there is a Republican one with the same name just built with a capital part different. Oh, okay. I hadn't dwelled out. I learned something tonight. Pam, thank you so much for calling. It's really a pleasure to hear from you. We've got to go. Thank you, Chris. Thank you, Thea. I'm John Feigle, saying keep it tuned to SiriusXM Progress. Peace.
