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Trump Flip Flops Like a Slinky on Abortion

Joe Sudbay is in for John once again. He talks about Trump’s ever changing stance on abortion and the Tim Walz & Kamala Harris interview on CNN. Then, he chats with political strategist Max Burns on the Trump train running out of steam and how Kamala is leading in America’s housing crisis. Next, Joe interviews journalist Joan McCarter on Gwen Walz responding to JD Vance, Trump's comments on abortion, and the Comstock Act. And finally, he take calls from Charles in California on Trump reaching new lows and making sure Kamala wins in 2024 and also Manesh in New Jersey on the upcoming Kamala/Trump debate and people trolling Trump on billboards in Bedminster.

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Duration:
1h 18m
Broadcast on:
03 Sep 2024
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mp3

Joe Sudbay is in for John once again. He talks about Trump’s ever changing stance on abortion and the Tim Walz & Kamala Harris interview on CNN. Then, he chats with political strategist Max Burns on the Trump train running out of steam and how Kamala is leading in America’s housing crisis. Next, Joe interviews journalist Joan McCarter on Gwen Walz responding to JD Vance, Trump's comments on abortion, and the Comstock Act. And finally, he take calls from Charles in California on Trump reaching new lows and making sure Kamala wins in 2024 and also Manesh in New Jersey on the upcoming Kamala/Trump debate and people trolling Trump on billboards in Bedminster.

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Today, Donald Trump admitted he supports a total abortion ban. And let me explain, you know, yesterday he was asked about the Florida Amendment for, which would basically restore abortion rights in the state. Hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people got it on the ballot. DeSantis and his judges did everything they could to slow it down in Florida. But the people of Florida said no, we want our rights back. That's because DeSantis, Governor DeSantis and the Republicans and the legislature passed that six week abortion ban. He was more than proud to sign it into law the governor. Yesterday, Donald Trump pointed out how horrible the law was. He did. He pointed out how horrible the law was. Does that mean he was right? He said six weeks isn't enough. Six weeks isn't enough. There shouldn't be an abortion ban that restricts reproductive rights for women. But Florida went as far as they could go. And most experts will tell you, most women don't even know they're pregnant by six. So in essence, you're voting when they passed the six week abortion ban, which has passed a number of other states, they're in essence passing a total abortion ban without admitting it. It's a big wink wink. But they all know what they're doing. Well, today, Donald Trump got intense pressure from the extremists and the anti-abortion movement who were so mad at him. I mean, he gave them the justices on the Supreme Court who overturned Dobbs. He gives them everything they want. They want more. They want complete control over women's bodies. So yesterday, when a lot of people misinterpreted Trump saying he was going to vote yes on the amendment, he didn't really say, he just said, "I want more weeks." We don't get more weeks. You either vote yes on four or you vote no on four. If you vote yes, you're for restoring reproductive rights in the state, letting women control their bodies. If you vote no, if you vote no and no succeeds, the six week abortion ban is in place. Today, Donald Trump said he wants that six week abortion ban to stay in place. He said he's voting no. I want to play a quick clip of Trump. You know, I hate inflicting Trump when I'm on the show, but I want you to listen. And first of all, I'm just going to give you a caveat. I know we don't even have to give a caveat when we're introducing Trump clips because he's going to lie. So he tells about 25 seconds of lies before he gets to saying he's voting no, because he's lying about state laws. He's lying about what Democrats think about abortion laws. He's lying, lying, lying, lying. But he has to lie to get to know, let's play clip number A5. Disagreeed with that right from the early primaries. When I heard about it, I disagreed with it. At the same time, the Democrats are radical because the nine months is just a ridiculous situation that where you can do an abortion in the ninth month. And you know, some of the states like Minnesota and other states have it where you can actually execute the baby after birth. And all of that stuff is unacceptable. So I'll be voting no for that reason. I'll be voting no for that reason. He lied, right? He lied saying you can execute the baby. That actually getting a baby is murder. And there's this lie that goes around the right-wing circles that they claim. That's what Democrats support. No one does. No one does. It's murder if you kill a baby after it's born. It happens all the time. I've gotten calls on this channel where guys, it's always guys, call up and want to let me know that lie. And I like to tell them that's a lie. You're spreading misinformation. Don't call and spread misinformation on this channel. That's why I wanted to give the caveat before we played the Trump. He's going to tell you lies. And he told you lies. But the bottom line is he said he's voting no. He's a resident of Florida. By voting no, on for he is willing to keep the six-week ban that yesterday he said was too short and wasn't enough and he wants more weeks. That's all out the window. Now he's gung-ho for a total abortion ban because that's what a six-week abortion ban is. Donald Trump supports a complete and total abortion ban. That he just, you heard him say it. That's the reality. That's what will happen. Those are the ramifications. I just want to, I'm going to get on the phones, but I want to just read a statement that was issued today by the Harris Wall's campaign. And it was in the name of Kamala Harris. Donald Trump just made his position on abortion very clear. He will vote to uphold an abortion ban so extreme. It applies before many women even know they are pregnant. Trump proudly brags about the role that he played in overturning Roe v. Wade and said there should be punishment for women who have an abortion. So of course he thinks it's a quote-unquote beautiful thing that women in Florida and across the country are being turned away from emergency rooms, face life-threatening situations and are forced to travel hundreds of miles for the care they need. And understand he is not done. As a part of Donald Trump's Project 2025 agenda, he and his allies would limit access to birth control, threaten access to fertility treatments, and ban abortion nationwide with or without Congress. And the Vice President concludes, "I trust women to make their own health care decisions and believe the government should never come between a woman and her doctor. When I'm president and Congress passes a bill to restore reproductive freedom, I will proudly sign it into law. The choice in this election is clear." That's a statement from Kamala Harris after Donald Trump admitted he supports basically a total abortion ban in Florida. There's no getting around it. That's what he's doing. Now all his little right-wing extremist anti-abortion crowd are happy right now, but they hit to force him into this position. And look, I'm going to just tell you, you know, the Washington Post headline, "Trump contradicts himself on abortion, searching for a winning message." Contradicts, "Oh, you could say flip-flop." You know, you could kind of call it out and say, "Trump doesn't know what the hell he's talking about." But you also have to say, "Trump now supports a total abortion ban." Most of the media won't do that because, you know, they cut Trump a lot of slack and they grade him on a curve. But he admitted it. You heard him. He's voting no on Amendment 4. That's what he means. He supports a total abortion ban. Let's get on the phone. Mitch in Kent State. What's going on, Mitch? Hello, Joe. How are you tonight? I'm good. How are you? Good. TGIF, for sure, right? We're ready for it. Well, first of all, a couple of thoughts on the interview last night, Joe. You know, how long did the Republicans were, you know, look with Kamala and, you know, yes, she's a byproduct of Joe Biden. She was part of the package, yes, in the interim now. You know, she's making a name for herself, correct? But the Republicans are trying to, you know, while all the Biden policies should stick to her because she was part of the team. Well, you know, I remember a vice president, Pence, by the name, by the way, that separate himself from his boss, you know, but that was all, you know, you talk about, you know, separation. I mean, you know, I just, it just, you know, while they're trying to, you know, stick everything that Biden done to what Kamala is. I mean, it's just, I understand, she has some of the, you know, she's tied to some of the policies and things like that, but she is trying to make a name for herself. You know, there's some of the degree of separation. And, you know, I just, you know, I just, what they're trying to do, I think, is just a falsification. I don't know, but, you know, it's just, I'm a hard time explaining it, but I just just, just what they're doing is just wrong. Just play along. Oh, it's completely wrong. You know, Mitch, the thing that bugged me most about this, first of all, I thought she and Governor Walts did a great job. I didn't couldn't watch anything because I was here. I saw some clips. We played some clips last night. I got to watch more of it today. She handled herself. She knows what she's talking about. She wasn't playing any games. And look, that question, you know, Dana Bash, Dana Bash, Zerlina, my colleagues, Zerlina Maxwell, she wrote this today. And I'm sure she talked about it on her show, but I was on the late show last night. So I didn't get up that early. This is what Zerlina wrote. I took notes to keep track of the questions in the Kamala interview. Only four questions weren't a GOP attack or talking point in the form of a question. How does this type of interview help voters understand her policies at all? And Politico, you know, you know, DC, there's like punch bowl, Politico, Axios, there are all these kind of like insider gossipy publications. They're headlined today. You know, remember last night when Dana Bash asked her about Trump saying she, you know, she changed, you know, she'd become black. And she just said same thing. Next question. Their headline, Politico. Next question. Harris evades question about her identity. What like evades it? It's bullshit question based on a bullshit, you know, spin from Trump and political. She evades it. How does she hurt? We see her identity right before us. And those are the things that's that's one of the problems with these things. These these these reporters and they're all patent, Dana Bash on the back. You did a great job. Jesus, Christ, all she she all she did was repeat GOP talking points. Zerlina was right. Right. Well, you know, I love the very answer because you know what? It's next question. Move on. But don't waste my time. Don't waste my time. Well, let's let's talk about the things that are relevant. And yeah, you're right. You're absolutely right. You know, the other thing is Joe, I, you know, I've been retail all my life. Okay. I've always been in retail. And back in the 70s, I don't remember when Gerald Ford put out his whip inflation now program. Yeah. One of the time that was, I mean, you know, of course it was dollar control. We never won the oil embargo and, you know, oil prices and everything else, you know, just everything sky high. And his this program that, you know, it was short lived, for sure. I mean, even the, you know, the Republicans do was a failure. But it's just, I said some similarities, but not that. I mean, of course, it's nothing like it was back in the 70s. But part of the thing that bugs me bothers me with these corporations, it's not always just the inflation. It's the downsizing and the smaller packaging. I see it, you know, in retail, when there's when there's a crunch on it, when they decide that they, you know, it's raising the price. Let's make it smaller. Let's make, you know, make less of, you know, in charge the same price. There's a lot of that in these corporations that anyway, they can, you know, squeeze another penny and, you know, in their favor, they'll do it and nothing gets that's another part of the problem. It's not, you know, there's only so much washing can do. I understand that. But the corporations who are, you know, running the show and, you know, and they gouge and, you know, on the Kroger, Kroger, they admitted it on their call the other day. They, they, they price gouge. They took advantage of, they took advantage of the pandemic. They took advantage of us. And, you know, look, it accrues to their big shareholders. It accrues to their CEOs. And, and, you know, most of those people who have a lot of money want Donald Trump to win so he can give them big tax cuts, Mitch. It's all part of that same corrupt system that we're dealing with. And Kamala Harris is calling it out. Joe Biden has called it out too. Joe Biden called it out. And you see, you know, the on CNBC, they get the vapors about it. And last week I saw Elizabeth Warren on, and she just clocked one of the, one of the hosts who was trying to, you know, she's like, well, she's talking about price controls. What are you going to do? Elizabeth Warren said, well, she's modeling it on a law that 31 states have. So what are you so worried about? But, you know, it's that billionaire mindset that has taken over this country and which we have to rein in. And that's what she's going to do. And anyways, I felt it was really fun. Like I've said a couple of times, this is Labor Day weekend and big shout out to everyone in the labor movement who does so much. But that's one of the reasons I love seeing Sean Fain up on that stage last week, man. He was so good, so good. And you know, I didn't get back to her. You know, her first agenda for day one is the economy in which I just thought was perfect. She landed it right by perfect. It spoke to everyone's, you know, a kitchen table. You know, that's what's right. It's so it's everyone's kitchen table. It's something they can understand and grab a hold of right away. So, you know, props to her. Yeah. And I'll tell you something else that's a kitchen table issue, healthcare and reproductive rights. You know, when everyone says we want to focus on kitchen table issues, well, there's nothing more kitchen table than having to feed another mouth that you didn't expect. Or, you know, it's just being honest about it. Being able to control your own body is a kitchen table issue. People discuss it over the kitchen tables all the time. And we can't leave that out of the equation. Mitch, it's always good to talk to you. Have a great holiday weekend. Okay. Get some time off and I'm going to do it yourself. And I'll talk to you again soon, I hope. Sure. We're going to take a quick break. And when we come back, Max Burds is joining us. I'm really excited to talk to Max. We'll be back in just a few minutes. Have you ever covered a carpet stain with a rug? Ignored a leaky faucet? Pretended your half-painted living room is supposed to look like that. Well, you're not alone. We've all got unfinished home projects. But there's an easier way. Thumbtack is the app that makes it easier to care for your home. Pull out your phone and in just a few taps. Search, chat and book highly rated pros right in your neighborhood. Download Thumbtack and start caring for your home the easier way. 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As you know, I mean, I like talking to my fellow guest host because we can geek out about the stuff we love to do, like take calls and also talk to cool people like I get to talk to Max. So, Max, I want to talk to you because you, of course, you're right in so many places, you wrote a piece in the hill just as week about housing and Kamala Harris's plans for housing. And it's like, it is an issue. You know, I do state of the states and almost every state legislative candidate I talked to want us to talk about the high cost of housing. And here we finally have a presidential candidate who's taking on the housing crisis. Talk a little bit about that for us. Yeah, I think this is a really exciting time for Democrats, because the party for a long time, well before Kamala Harris has really been fighting with itself over how to tackle the issue of housing. The party has a big nimby group within it that doesn't like the idea of building more housing because of some legislative problems with that. But now we have seemed to in Kamala Harris finally found out how to talk about housing in the populist way that most Americans think about it. But more than that, she's talking about it in terms of concrete policies, like helping local communities expand the housing supply, providing federal funds to help cities rezone, providing that $25,000 mortgage credit for first-time buyers that are actually ideas that both housing experts and red state mayors both agree work. So there's this rare opportunity here, I think, to really crack this problem and build a whole new political coalition around being a really aggressively pro-housing, pro-working class party. I think it's so important, you know, it contrasts so much with how the media has said we need to hear policy from Kamala Harris, which she gave you a very detailed housing plan. And like I said, this is something, it is a real issue. Housing is a huge issue in Florida, and the insurance costs in Florida, and of course the legislature there has done nothing about it, same thing in Texas. You know, you find that in so many these red states, and of course, like you said, mayors and red states want help. Their issues aren't being the housing issues, not being addressed at the state legislative level because they're too busy banning books and attacking drag queens. And now you have a presidential candidate who's like, here is a policy to help address this, it's such a salient issue. It really is. And what strikes me so much is that this is an issue that Republicans used to have mostly favorable views from voters on. But then under Donald Trump, a lot of these red states started asking for tangible help in terms of legislation from Congress to open up zoning laws to create more federal funds to build permanently affordable housing, which is a really popular issue in a lot of southern red states, because those states, the workers there make less money, and the housing is growing just as quickly in cost as in major cities. So that's something that really hits red state voters. And yet over four years, they got literally zero help from Donald Trump or Republicans in Congress, never even bothered to write a bill. And so they're open to this conversation. And what we're seeing from state level lawmakers, like who you've talked to, is it when this proposal comes forward, we've seen quite a few Republican mayors actually endorse this plan, which is causing a lot of headaches for Republicans in these close-swing Sunbelt states. In those Sunbelt states, Georgia, North Carolina, I think Florida is in the mix, I really do. Yeah, absolutely. Right. And those are all states that have been growing, that have housing crises. And the legislature's in some of the states trying to deal with them, some of them they don't. But it's one of the things, and it's one of the things you wrote, voters aren't really eager to embrace big ideas that provide benefits. And that's in red states and blue states. And it's like, this is, it's like, I saw her do this. And my husband actually, Carlos works in the housing issue. He has forever. Actually, his blue sky name is Carlos on housing. That was his Twitter name too. So it's something that is often discussed in our household. He's a researcher. So I, you know, it's like, it was kind of fun to see, oh, actually, the things you kind of believe in and things you're going to work on are actually starting to take on, take off at a national level. And so it's exciting for me in many ways. And it's about time. I mean, we've reached this point. You want to talk about a cross-cutting issue. There's nothing as clear as housing. I mean, we're in a market now where the average price of a home is almost half a million dollars. I mean, 40 million Americans are priced out of buying a home completely. And we just had a poll come out that showed seven in 10 Americans between the ages of 23 and 40 want to buy a home, but they can't afford it. I mean, half of people who are 18 to 30 still live at home, not because they're lazy, like Republicans say, not because they want to, but because the price of a home is rising far faster than wages. So if you make it so that these people can actually afford homes, you not only unlock home ownership for them, but you unlock this huge economic multiplier effect that three or four years down the line, just in time for a reelection campaign, all of these people have suddenly unlocked so much more wealth. They feel richer. They feel like they have a better stake in the country and in the economic health of the nation. And that's going to be a huge thing. If you want to combat disaffection among young people, help them buy a house and establish that generational wealth. Yeah. And today, the New York Times actually wrote about this. I highly recommend Max's piece at the Hill Build Baby Build on housing to the New York Times because this is their headline. Harrison Trump have housing ideas. Economists have doubts. Okay, whatever. And they laid out Harris's plan, just as you just did for us. Then this is Trump's plan. This is actually treated as a serious policy proposal by the New York Times. Mr. Trump's plan is garnering even more doubt. He pledged us to deport undocumented immigrants, which could cut back temporarily on housing demand, but would also most likely cut into the construction workforce and eventually limit new housing supply. And I'm like, wait, am I actually reading this? This is what they consider Trump's housing plan. And they gave it credibility. I mean, like, Max, what? What? What is that? Your shock is my shock. I mean, calling this a plan from Donald Trump is just emblematic of how the media often seeks balance instead of context for readers. It's not a plan. Donald Trump has been promising a housing plan since his second year in office. It has never emerged. I mean, show me the wave of migrants coming here and purchasing $490,000 houses. It does not exist. The problem isn't that migrants are buying all the houses. The problem is that banks and hedge funds are purchasing all the houses, purchasing them and turning them into Airbnb's, turning them into investment properties and reducing the housing supply to drive prices up. But Donald Trump isn't going to talk about that problem because the people doing that are by and large, the people giving him a lot of money. So his answer is, throw all the immigrants out, which the New York Times, I still cannot believe actually calls this a housing plan. It was, you know, I think I had kind of gotten, I think we've kind of grown used to the times in the media kind of cutting him a lot of slack. But really, when you look at these two, Ms. Harris is promising a cocktail of tax cuts meant to spur home construction. She's floating a $25,000 benefit to help first-time home buyers break into the market. She's got a series of policies, you know, she goes up and the article explains all of her policies in his mass deportation, which of course, as I like to point out, Max, it's his signature issue, and they had the signs at the convention, but they won't give any details on it because they know most people would be horrified because when you think about the, there would be more housing because you're kidnapping people and sending them out of the country, you're raiding their homes and having empty homes and that's supposed to make us feel better about the country. It's so absurd. It's just, it's one of these maddening things that I still can't believe I read that today. Let me, but let's just take a step back, Max, and the housing issue, and I'm glad we got to talk about that. What's your take on where we are right now, just over nine weeks out from election day? I feel good, and I did not think I would say that a month ago, but I was actually looking, I have a piece coming out for Daily Coast over the weekend that was looking at the smart track data on voter registration over the last month, and the numbers are incredible. I mean, over the last month, compared to the same time in 2020, the number of Black women, 18 to 29 who've registered to vote, has tripled 178 percent increase over 2020, 150 percent increase for Hispanic women in the same period where Republicans have increased their voter registration by 7 percent. Democrats have increased registration by 51 percent, and you can say, great, it's easy to register voters. It's hard to get them out to the polls, but we just had a Gallup poll out this week that showed Democratic voter enthusiasm is as high as it was in 2008 under Barack Obama, and for Republicans, it's lower than it was in 2020 when Donald Trump lost the White House. I mean, we have this incredible moment where registrations are surging, enthusiasm is surging, and we're seeing it in the polls. I mean, Bloomberg now has Kamala Harris up for in Pennsylvania. That's not to say this is going to be a cake walk, but I would much rather be in Kamala Harris's shoes right now than Donald Trump's. Let me tell you, first of all, when I like, can't wait to see what Tom Bonier has new information he's provided, and what you just mentioned, those numbers are really important. What I think is important about them, I like to separate Max, like real numbers, real things. Polls are really interesting, and the enthusiasm is interesting, and it's great to see the polls, but voter registration, that's real. And I think enthusiasm is reflected also in the money, the money, the hundreds of millions of dollars that came in, the 540. I mean, it's a week later since we saw that number, who knows how high that number is, and that number, and money's flowing in down ballot as well, which is incredibly important because everyone understands we have to keep the house, we have to keep the Senate, we have to win state legislatures. That's real. The special elections, I mean, a special election in Tulsa this week, where Democrats are the two top finishers with a combined total of 65 percent of the vote in this state, in the city that won Trump won in 2016 and Biden won by a little in 2020. Those are real things, and I think that really shows us a lot. Yeah, I mean, I love polls as much as anybody, but you're right. I mean, we don't have to rely on anecdotal data. We have election results. And the election results showed that since 2022, Democrats have been outperforming on the state and local level that Democrats coupled with the abortion issue outperformed by historic margins. And I mean, half a billion dollars raised in a month is again a failure of the media to provide context to people. That has never happened before. That is a truly astronomical amount of money. And for reference, Barack Obama built his entire nationwide voter mobilization effort, the model for what you do to turn out voters with a fraction of that money. And now the Harris campaign has said most of that money is going to go into voter mobilization. We're talking about a machine, the likes of which we have not seen before. And if it works, I mean, North Carolina will be very much in play. Georgia, Florida, as you mentioned, will be very much in play. Meanwhile, Republicans have stopped spending on infrastructure. They're busy trying to fund ads in North Carolina. They never thought they would have to fund. This is a huge indication that at least Republicans seem to think there are problems in red states. And Democrats are certainly doubling down on them to not let them walk away. Absolutely. I think the amount of money they're going to have to spend, I think they're going to, Republicans are going to have to end up spending money in Texas too. I mean, this is, this is, everything has changed. And I think everything is in play. I think this feels so different. And look, are we going to have to fight for every vote? Yes. Are there, is this going to be ugly the next few months? Yes, it's going to be horrible. We've already seen that the past few days, the behavior of Donald Trump, everything he did this week was just appalling. JD Vance, the same thing, despicable people. But, you know, I'd much rather be where we are than where they are. Let's take a call. Let's talk to Bill and Orlando, because I opened the show, Max, with Donald Trump admitting he's voting no in Florida, which is basically Donald Trump admitting he's voting for a full abortion ban, because the six week abortion ban in Florida is a ban. Bill in Orlando, what's going on tonight, Bill? Hey, Joe and Max, good to talk to you both. Hope I was well, happy holidays to you all. And it's good news here in Florida. I was going to get off on the housing thing, but the good news is Vice President Harris is taking a campaign, a reproductive freedom event launch here in Palm Beach, Tuesday, September 3rd, a couple days from now. And it's going to be in Palm Beach right in the Amarillo, Colorado. And, you know, I kind of, I'd want to get out there and see her, but I'd get confused down there. The traffic would be horrible, and I'm not good at driving anymore. But, but I just wanted to throw that out there for the first thing, just because it's, I feel the excitement. Everybody here, I told you, Joe, the other night, I was at my local Democratic meeting here. And the excitement is there. We feel it. And, you know, these idiots, this idiot government wants to what's to build golf courses on on state park land. And that's, that's, they put the k-bosh on that. But, you know, the housing crisis and all that. But I just, it just, I feel the excitement. I just wanted to throw that out there. And then, and what do you think? Because she's, I just know she's going to win. I just, we're going to win and we're going to kick some ass here. I just feel it. Well, you know, I, I, you know, yesterday when Trump fumbled with how he was going to vote on the amendment for, he said the six weeks is too short. And he basically trashed the legislation that was signature legislation for DeSantis in Florida GOP up in Tallahassee. Now, today he's with them on it. He's supporting their six-week abortion ban, which is a full ban. And, you know, I, I just kind of feel like he's, he's not helping this his own situation in Florida. What do you think, Max? No, absolutely not. I mean, this is Donald Trump in a panic. He's already outraged his moral conservative, whatever those are supporters who are very anti-abortion by saying that six weeks is too short. But this is just emblematic of the fact that abortion is a winning issue for Democrats. I mean, we have Republicans all over the media now rushing to say they support IVF, that they support protecting some aspects of abortion. This is, remember, the one issue that Senate leaders urged Republicans to avoid talking about at any cost this election cycle because of how damaging it is for Republicans. And now Donald Trump has once again forced them to make it their defining issue two months out from an election. I mean, you could not have handed a better weapon to Democrats, most effective abortion messenger, Kamala Harris. Absolutely. And her statement today, and she will be talking about it. She talks about, she knows how to talk about it. She's unabashed about talking about it. She leans into it. And, you know, the, this abortion issue, it's on the ballot in Florida. It's on the ballot in Arizona, Colorado, Maryland, where there's a really important Senate race, Missouri, Missouri, the polling this week, Max and Bill showed the abortion referendum passing. Of course, Florida's different because Florida needs 60%. Montana, there's an abortion measure, Nevada, Nebraska, New York, you know, it's on the ballot. And I just think it's something Republicans never thought they'd be dealing with is Democrats leaning in as they have on the abortion issue. And it's certainly the front and center down in your state, Bill. Yeah, I see, I've seen the polls too. And they're in the 67 to 69 range. I'm sure it's going to pass. It'd be no problem. I, it would, you know, abortion, like you said, Joe, it's a kitchen table issue as well. It's an economic issue. And, you know, you're deciding on when you have little ones and all that. That's, you know, that's not out of my league, but I wish people well with it. But I, you know, they need help. We're going to need to help you. But hopefully, hopefully with Vice President coming here, it'll, it'll, it'll, yeah, she's going to Jacksonville too, by the way. Now I have to think about Jacksonville. I just want to be in the story. She'll be in Jacksonville on the 4th. So I may, I know Jacksonville. So she's going to make a run in the state here. But I just want to say, thank you, Joe, and hope all as well. And thanks, Max, and keep, keep on doing what you're doing, because we're going to, Joe, I look forward to a weekend when you're on all of a sudden. So something will happen on a weekend. It'll be on, it always happens, Joe. That does. Thanks for the call, Bill. And we'll talk soon. Thanks. Take care. You know what's interesting, Max, is both Trump and Vance have said, I heard them both give entries this week, but they said, well, I don't think abortion is going to be a very big issue. And I'm like, it, you have to be a very out of touch. Guy, straight guy, to think abortion doesn't really matter that much. Or you have to live in a bubble, because everyone else thinks it's a huge issue. Yeah. And JD Vance, for one, certainly knows better. I mean, the guy has seen his his compatriots lose elections. He's seen abortion win in every state where it's been on the ballot. He's seen the turnout numbers. I mean, he knows how to read charts, even if he can't speak to save his life, he understands what a big issue this is. And the challenge is Republicans can't run away from this. They own this and voters link it to them indelibly. No amount of coming out now and saying, I'll protect IVF through, through Obamacare and my presidency, which can you believe that is going to convince these voters, Donald Trump is telling them the truth. They watched him take credit for overturning Roe versus Wade two weeks ago. Exactly. And you know where he is tonight, he's with Moms for Liberty, Moms for Liberty, that right wing extremist group that was started with backing from the Heritage Foundation, the entity that wrote Project 2025. He's, they're the book banners. They're, they are very creepy organization. They got their clocks cleaned in the election in 2023 with a lot of great candidates, including many supported by run for something. But that's an indication. Like he's with Moms for Liberty tonight. That is not a mainstream group. That's a group. That's a weird group. I mean, literally their policies are all freaky, weird and creepy. Yeah, it's the group that was famously called out for including a Hitler quote in their advertising. And then their apology wasn't, we didn't mean to use that Hitler quote. They literally said, sorry, we posted the wrong Hitler quote in our newsletter. I mean, these people, it shows you how fully captured by its extreme wing, the Republican Party is, and they don't care about these general elections. They want purity, even if it loses them winnable races. And Donald Trump has no choice but to cater to that. Well, I kind of thought maybe Trump was hoping he could spend time with Christian and Bridget Ziegler too. Christian used to be the chair of the Republican Party, but in his wife was one of the founders of Moms for Liberty, but they got a little bit of trouble because they were doing three ways. And he was out at bars and she was texting him, don't come home without your dick wet. You know, good Christian values that you'd expect from Republican leaders. And he was charged with crimes because of an alleged assault on one of the three way. Now, look, Max, I don't care what people do in their private lives as long as it's safe and legal and consenting. But Christian and Bridget Ziegler spent a lot of time thinking about what I do in my private life. And they've made it an issue. And they're the month she started Moms for Liberty and she's still on the school board down there doing her anti LGBT and I choice everything stuff. And I kind of thought maybe Trump wanted to go to Moms for Liberty so we can hang out with him and swap stories. I mean, you know, that sounds like him. Well, you mentioned she's still on the school board in Florida. And I think this is one of the reasons why we're going to see some really unexpected stuff in Florida in November. I think we're starting to see the crest of the Ron DeSantis wave. He just had a plan to put golf courses in state parks, knock down a bunch of trees and build golf courses. Even Republicans opposed that by huge margins, he's about to take a humiliating loss on abortion. And his favorability is going down. I mean, it's to the point now where the Democratic candidate for Senate there is within three points, two or three points of Rick Scott, which is something I never thought I would see in Florida. But if that's even close to true, and if the numbers we're seeing from Kamala Harris are close to true in Miami Dade, I mean, there's going to be some hand ringing here about whether they finally become so out there and so extreme that even a lot of traditional conservatives find it a little oppressive to live under these people. Yeah. And Rick Scott only won by about 10,000 votes in 2018. And to me, he's got one of the worst brands. He's one of the least liked senators. His approval rating is always, his disapproval is always far exceeded his approvals. And the other thing I think going on in Florida, and I like to talk about this, is every state ledge race has a candidate in it. And you know, those state ledge candidates are knocking doors. They're going to find Democratic voters who haven't been talked to in some of these districts, who haven't been, you know, reached for a while. And that's happening too at that level. So I feel like at the top, there's enthusiasm. We have the abortion measure. Everyone hates Rick Scott. And then you've got great candidates. I just think it's like a, it's like a good brew for our team. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, whenever you have a party and Virginia's Democratic party is a great example of this. Yeah. Whenever you have a party that can contest every race and make Republicans spend money everywhere, it's a sign that that party is starting to recover from where it was. And that's part of why Democrats took back the legislature in Virginia. And I think we'll definitely see some surprise gains here in Florida, just because so many of these Republicans have not faced a challenger in so long that they've quite literally forgotten how to campaign. And that's going to fight a lot of them. And they all have to campaign on supporting a six week abortion ban that even Donald Trump said was too extreme, even though he's voting for it. Max Burns, what a treat to spend some time with you this evening. Where's the best place for our, I know a lot of people know they're going to find you here. But where else can people find you these days? I am still for some reason on Twitter at the Max Burns. And you can check me out at the Hill and now at Daily Coast, where I'm going to be doing some writing a couple times a week. Sounds great. And hopefully we'll talk again soon. Thanks Max for joining us. Have a great weekend. Thanks you too. Okay. We're going to take a break. We'll be back in just a few minutes. Plug in a Hyundai EV and the extraordinary happens. From the charge time and range in the IONIQ 5 and 6, to the adventurous spirit of the Kona Electric to the 601 horsepower IONIQ 5 and Hyundai EVs make the extraordinary electrifying. There's joy in every journey. 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So happy that my last guest of the week, the one and only Joan McCarter, senior writer at Daily Coase, and as she describes herself on her blue-sky bio, politician-horanger. And I do love a politician-horanger, Joan. Welcome. I am so glad to talk to you, Joe. I'm so happy to be here. I'm happy you could be here. And you know what's great is we can do it while and be happy. Because, Joan, we feel joyous. I mean... I think we do. We don't believe. Yeah. It's a new feeling. It's taken me some time to get used to it. Look, neither one, we've been doing this for a while. We actually met in 2006, and we were both writing on blogs. You still are at Daily Coase. I was writing on a political blog in 2007 at Daily Coase. Well, it wasn't Daily Coase then. It was Net Roots Nation. You hosted the panel with presidential candidates, and we've been through some stuff together. Some highs and some lows. And I feel like we've had years of lows, Joan, and it's a good feeling. And just give me your insights on how you're feeling in this moment. What are you thinking about? Well, I hate hope. Hope terrifies me. So I'm trying to be... I'm trying to keep it a little under control. But it feels really good from where we're sitting right now. Yeah. Yeah. It feels really good. They're putting resources in Florida. They're putting resources in Georgia. And if they think Florida and Georgia are in play, and from all the polling I've seen, I think Florida and Georgia are in play, then I cannot feel too scared of hope. I think that, you know, 67 days now? Yeah, 67. Yeah. I've been counting down. A lot to do. And just a couple of weeks, still ballots can go out in North Carolina, and early voting starts in Virginia, September 20th. You know, one of the things, and actually, it's something you just said too, one of the things I've tried to stay focused on are real numbers. Like, what's real? Polling is polling. And look, we're not going to pretend it doesn't exist. And, you know, I suspect that we're going to start seeing a lot more of the right-wing Republican polls start flooding the market because they're freaking out that the polls are... the actual A plus B plus rated polls are actually showing the movement. We all believed this out there. But, you know, the numbers we're seeing from Tom Bonnier of voter registration. Those are real. And the money is real. When they're slowing, right? Mind blowing voter registration numbers. Women in Louisiana, crazy, crazy number of new registrations. So, yeah, that's good. The number of field offices Harris has going in key states, the number of volunteers she's got in key states. The money, yeah, the money's one thing. She's going to be buying for money, but knowing that she also has the ground game and all of these volunteers. And now that she has Tim and Gwen Walz, the teachers, she's going to get the best volunteers with your teachers. So, yeah. Yeah, I just played a clip of Gwen. I don't know if you saw the clip going around. She was with educators for Harris Walz today. And she worked on her glasses. That's the first time I've really seen her speak. And it was, it was brilliant. I laughed. I played it. I played it for every one a few minutes ago because I thought we needed a palette cleanser. Mr. Vance, how about you mind your own business from a teacher? It just had a different ring to it. Didn't it? Well, she put the glass along. Oh, boy. Yeah. I saw someone comment, boy, I bet she'd be a great teacher, but I wouldn't want her because she would give home work. Yeah. Yes. And expect you to do it. Yes. Yeah, that's it. It's been really fun. All of that. And like you said, they're opening offices. They're opening, you know, they're starting their reproductive rights, protecting reproductive rights, swing in Florida in Palm Beach in Palm Beach. Yep. Yep. I think that's right. Backyard. Yeah. And, and you know, today, look, I maintain today, Trump basically admitted he supports a full abortion ban because if you vote, if you vote no and no succeeds in Florida, you have a six week abortion ban, which is for all intents and purposes, a full abortion ban. That's exactly why they did six weeks. They knew exactly what they were doing. It's a way to do a full ban without saying it's a full ban. So he's said today, he supports going to a full ban in Florida and my, and I don't think we should ever let him off the hook for that. No, absolutely not. After a lot of flip. It's been kind of fun to watch the last few days between that and his Arlington Cemetery problem. He's, he's really been sweating it. Yeah. Yeah. Although, but Joan, I just have a question. Are we allowed to call it flip-flopping when Donald Trump does it? Or, or is he giving new ones? We can. We can because we are not beltway media. Yeah. But if you're beltway media, yeah, you have to hey, you know, approach it as some kind of nuanced thinking from Donald Trump. Yes. So it's so maddening. But, a little bit we've talked about abortion a little bit, but there's the IVF issue and you wrote a terrific post today at Daily Coast. Trump wants insurance to cover IVF question mark. And I think the question mark is key there because I don't think he really knows what Ellie's talking about. But as you point out, Democrats have a plan for that. Talk a little bit about that. Well, first of all, let's say that he says he wants to protect IVF and have a mandate for it and health insurance. But he also wants to get rid of the mandates and the affordable care act. So do these things fit together? I'm not real. So, so just that aside with that question mark, does Trump really want to do this? No. So yes, we saw back in June that the Democrats after the whole issue of the Alabama Supreme Court and the fight over whether IVF could still be practiced in the state, Senate Democrats hit it hard and used both Tammy Duckworth's bill, Tammy Duckworth's Illinois to provide essentially federal protections for anybody seeking IVF for those processes to go through federally nationwide. And then adding in bills from Cory Booker, Rosa DeLore had it in the House and Patty Murray to do exactly what Trump is talking about doing. Having the process available to military and VA patients and in all Affordable Care Act policies and Medicaid. So across the board, yes, government and insurance companies will have to underwrite IVF through that legislation. And of course, Republicans unanimously nearly blocked it. They filibustered it. Susan Collins and Lee Summerkowski were led off their mission up to go ahead and go with Democrats on that one. So when you say Republicans blocked it, would that by any chance include the junior senator from Ohio? It would indeed. It would include the senior senator from, no, junior senator from Florida, who's up for reelection this year. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. All right, the senator from Texas is also for reelection as well. Interesting, interesting. Let's let's the actually the junior senator from Ohio, who's now the vice presidential nominee for the Republican Party actually was on CNN talking about this. It was a disastrous interview. He had, he kept talking about how he just tells jokes. Can we have some fun? Well, we like fun. We're having fun on our side, but you guys don't know how to be funny. He's so weird. I can't, I can't, it's so easy to say they're weird because they are, but I want to play a clip about the discussion of IVF. Let's play clip A three. Eight and you believe that state should have the right to make these decision. If a state bans IVF, but Donald Trump says he wants to guarantee and or pay for IVF for everyone who wants it, how would that work if a state banned it? Well, John, I think it's such a ridiculous hypothetical because Alabama, which is maybe the most conservative state in the entire union, has actively protected fertility, access and fertility treatments. There's no state in the union, whether a right-wing state or a left-wing state that I think is trying to ban access to fertility treatments. And if Alabama is protecting this stuff, I think it's safe to say the whole country is as well. Well, but the court, who's to say there's not an other court in another state that could decide that an IVF should be banned. It happened in Alabama for a minute. You also voted against a measure in the Senate that would have guaranteed access to IVF around the country. So it's possible, right? Well, no, no, two things, John. First of all, yes, a court made that decision in Alabama and like the next second, the Alabama state legislature fixed that problem and ensured women had access to these fertility treatments. And all that I've voted on, John, is for religious liberty. All I voted on was religious liberty. Were the words religious liberty in that legislation you just described? No, they were not. No, they were not. And it's kind of hard to see a physician who has a fertility clinic who is providing these services, having a religious objection to providing those services? Yeah. Yeah. That dog won't hurt. No. And you know, religious liberty, I hear those words and it's like, it's code words. Yes. In the LGBT community, we hear there's somebody that's like, oh, that means you want to take my rights away. And in, you know, reproductive rights, when you hear those words, it's like, oh, you want to ban abortion, you want to ban IVF. That's what that means. And it's contraception and contraception. Absolutely. Let's not forget that. So when you hear those words, they know exactly exactly exactly what his he's telegraphing to his world. And he's hoping that the media, the media will just not dig into it, which they usually don't. But he's also wrong about IVF in Alabama, the legislature did pass something. But at least one of the clinics said, I don't think it's enough. We don't think it's enough. And the Supreme Court could take this law up and strike it down again, because that's the way it goes. So they just, he just, and it was only temporary. It was only temporary. Right. Through the election into next what January, I think, maybe February. Yeah. And let's not forget. Marilyn lands. She won her. She won her special election in Alabama House District 10 by 27 points of race she lost by five or six points in 2022 be by running on abortion and protecting IVF. So even an even quote unquote, even in Alabama, but don't want to want to read about is we're rolling into the fall. The Senate will be in session. What are some of the things, you know, because obviously we don't have any control in the house, but you know, Senator Schumer offered this vote already once. You know, now he has Donald Trump's support for the legislation. And these are the kind of things Schumer should bring back up. I think they should make them vote and all of these things again. Talk about that. Yes. Perhaps even separately, bring that package back up and have a vote on each of them, because on the whole package, he could do a Schumer voted, changed his vote at the end when it was filibustered so that through Senate rules, as a majority leader, he can bring it back to the floor. So they have that option. They could, you know, again, break them apart and try to pass them individually. I think probably as a package is a better idea. For one thing, they really do only have three short weeks, and everything takes forever in the Senate. But there is absolutely time to do this, absolutely. And, you know, are you going to stand with your good Trump Republicans? Are you going to let it pass this time? Of course, they'll vote against it. And of course, they'll say, oh, this is just political game playing by the Democrats, because they want to do this under Biden, and they don't want Trump to be able to do it. But vote them on the record anyway. Absolutely. Well, you know, when I say WWMMD, what would Mitch McConnell do? Mitch McConnell had a chance. If the Democratic nominee said something, and he was in control, the Democratic nominee said something that his caucus wanted, he'd put it on the floor the first day and make Democrats, they can make them vote every day. The other thing I'm wondering is if there's a chance Senator Schumer would offer repeal of the Comstock Act, because it is increasingly clear, you know, Republicans admit it, it's in Project 2025, the statue number, not calling it the Comstack Act. But, you know, Jonathan Mitchell told the New York Times in February, we don't need any new laws, we have the Comstock Act. Absolutely. And you have two Supreme Court justices, who, when they were arguing the abortion bill case, brought up the Comstock Act. So, yeah, it is out there and it's real. And it would be a really good idea to bring that repeal. We should talk a little bit about it, it's in 1876. 73. Was it 1876? 73. Law. That was written pretty much in response to Margaret Sanger's sort of movement to try to get contraceptives available, that banned any kind of lewd materials from being sent to advanced. So, contraception was included. Information about abortions was included in any devices, or contraception, or for conducting abortions was banned. They cannot be sent to the mail. And it's still on the books. The Supreme Court president has, has, essentially, moved it. It's like a volcano. It's dormant. But volcanoes are never extinct. They can always come back and soak in this. Yeah. And like I said, Jonathan Mitchell, who's a right-wing extremist lawyer, has worked with Trump. He's the one that got the Texas bounty law, abortion bounty law, through the Supreme Court. He's the one who said he told the New York Times, "We don't need new laws. We have Comstock." And he also wanted Trump to shut up about it, because he doesn't want any focus on it, even though he was telling it to the New York Times. In context, he was saying, "We do not need a national abortion ban, because we have this." And it's now, gosh, 67% of abortions nationally are used that are recorded, that are done through clinics and through doctors' offices, are done with the abortion bill. We don't know how many are happening, sort of, on the internet gray market. So it's undoubtedly a higher percentage. So yeah, it would, essentially, end abortion in America. And they could also, yeah, safe abortions, right. They could also ban any kind of product that could assist in abortion, the interstate mailing of those. So it's, and look, they've got a court that would let them do whatever. We already know that if Trump won. So this is why I know Senator Tina Smith has legislation in the Senate. I want Senator Schumer to put this on the floor. I want to have this debate in the United States Senate. I want to have, you know, Republicans, I'm sure some of them would run to the floor, but I want to see what Rick Scott says, and I want to see what Ted Cruz says. I want to see what JD Vance and how they handle it. And then I want to have to make the question go to Tim Sheehy out in Montana. What does he think about it? Does he want the 1873 law? What about Bernie Moreno in Ohio? I want them all to have to answer to this question. And I think the only way to do it, and the way you make the media pay attention is to put it on the Senate floor and make them vote. That's just the best way. So hopefully we'll see some of that action from Senator Schumer. I mean, I have to say, I think he's gotten better about putting bills on. He did, like you said, the IVF bill. They put the Protection of Contraception Act on the floor. But again, it's what the court would do. Yeah, and that was with matching and cinema. That was with matching and cinema. They said, okay by us. And they voted for it. Both of them. Absolutely put it on the floor. You know, it's not going to pass the house. The house is busy doing insane things as usual. And we should probably talk about that a little bit. But if you want to continue to run with the Senate, absolutely. Let's talk about the house. We've got a few minutes. What are you expecting in the house? I mean, it is like the most dysfunctional place. And I know they want to do a lot of shitty things. But what's interesting is you're starting to see some of the Republicans in the very competitive districts begging Johnson not to screw them over. I'm like, yes. And Johnson is begging, it's not to screw everybody over. But you know, this is what happens when you empower people like Marjorie Taylor and Meghan or whoever. We have both the threat of a it's Friday night and my brain just froze. A privileged resolution. That's what it is, a privileged resolution to bring the vitamin impeachment to the floor. Nobody wants to go through that. But now we've got supposedly telling Marjorie Taylor Green that if they don't get their safe act, and I can't remember what safe stands for, but it's their cool thing to keep undocumented migrants from voting, which is not a thing they don't do it and it's already against the law. If they don't have that attached to the continuing resolution to keep government funded after September 30th, they should have a shutdown. This is supposedly coming from Trump, which does nobody any good, including Trump. If he's got his fingerprints all over it. So he wants to shut down the government for forcing Republicans to pass a law for something that's already illegal. Yeah, okay. It's all. He wants to shut the government down by weeks before an election. Yeah. And it's one of these things too that it's all part of their great replacement theory rhetoric. And look, Ken Paxton just sent his stormtroopers to raid underwear drawers of 87 year old women over this exact same lie. So they are willing to go to extremes on this. And who knows what'll happen? And you know, look what Trump did on that border bill that most Democrats hated. A lot of the immigration groups hated. And they were going, they were given them everything they wanted. And Trump said, no, I know, no, you can't do it. So Trump does control the Republican Party. And that may happen. There may be a government shutdown over a government over a bill already exists. Yeah. Okay. All right. Well, that will be fun. Jonas never dull. It's never dull. It's it's scary. It's crazy. But never dull. Unfortunately, you, well, fortunately for the rest of us, sometimes unfortunate for you, you have to monitor all of it. But you help us understand it at Daily Cose. And I really appreciate your time this evening to unpack a little of it. Thank you, Joan. I'm hoping we're going to talk tomatoes a little bit that maybe next time. Yeah. Well, I have to tell everyone, Joan, I'm having a blight with my tomatoes, but Joan sent me a link and I cut all the blight off today. And hopefully, hopefully, I'll make it through the next few weeks. I've got about 18 years that spring. Use that spring. It's non-toxic, it's fine. Well, that's what I'm going to do. And I've had some great tomatoes this year, but I've got about 18 to 20 that I'm just waiting to ripen. And I can't wait. Anyway, I could talk tomatoes endlessly, too. Thank you so much. Have a great weekend. You too. Take care. We're going to take a break. We'll be back. 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What's going on, Charles? Hello? Hey, how are you? Hey, Mr. Fudd, man. How you doing, man? Good, how are you? All right, all right, man. I had to call you, man. Charles, you have to call me Joe. You have to call me Joe. You always call me Mr. Subway. Call me Joe. We have buns at this point. I had to talk to him, lost his mind. Going down to the cemetery, this vulgar language on the computer about Miss Clinton and Vice President Harry. I mean, what my uncle said, he lowered in the snakes belly. I mean, you know, he, I just, I just, oh, I'm angry, but you know what, we got to go down there. We got to get, we got to show Trump that the Democrats have got it, and him and his, I don't know, in turn, Vice President. You know, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, okay, Joe, do you expect any violence? You know what? Look, I think he's going to threaten it. I think. But remember, last time he was president, he controlled the military, he controlled the dash. He, he had a lot of control. This time he doesn't. And the other thing is, um, it was very close last time. And you know, it could be very close again, but that's why I think the next nine and a half weeks, we have to do everything we can to get as many votes out as we can. So it's not close. So on election night, we get Pennsylvania called early. We get Michigan called. We get Wisconsin called. We get Georgia. That's what I'm hoping for. This, is he going to try and muck things up in the court? Yeah, he's already trying to do things in Georgia. He's already trying to do things in Texas. He's already trying to, you know, screw with the system and out in Arizona as well. But I feel like we're better prepared for it this time, Charles. And, um, and I don't think last time, you know, people were caught off guard, no one's going to be caught off guard this time. No one is getting near the Capitol. And, you know, those, they may, they're going to threaten violence. And we'll probably see some stuff, but no one's putting up with that shit this time. I think that's, that's my sense. Um, you know, I think we have to be super vigilant. What about this party? He's going to give the, the January six people. You heard anything about that? Yeah, on September 5th, he's hosting his bedminster. There's a big event. His picture's on it. Um, he says there's nothing to do with it, but they're raising money for the January 6th, convicted people. You know, guys convicted, mostly guys who, many of whom were serving prison sentences for assaulting police officers. They're trying to raise money for them. It is disgusting. And out here, and then he goes around the country and gets endorsed by police unions after he's raising money to help people who beat the shit out of cops. There's something wrong with that whole thing too, Charles, right? Right. I, I, I, that's what blowing my mind, man. But I, look, I had to call you. I know you get other callers, man. Look, enjoy your weekend and you're driving this weekend. Were you driving this weekend? Oh, I'm, I'm, I'm in Reno now, man. I, I got to get on the Northern Cal, but, um, I'm just, I'm just parked here and man at the, at the Alamo up here in Reno. I'm, you're going, I waited because I was going to give me something to eat, man. But, uh, but look, man, enjoy your weekend, be safe. And you know, man, you know, when you're on, my radio is on now, you know that. I so appreciate that, Charles. I always appreciate your calls drive safely out there, my friend. Have a great weekend yourself. Oh, man, we're just about at the top of the show, and I wanted to get some more phone calls in, but I'm not going to have time. Um, but let me just try and squeeze one in. Monish, I wanted to get to you. Monish in New Jersey. I've got like two minutes. What's going on? Well, no, bro. Hey, Joe, great to talk to you. Um, I live near Bedminster, and today there was a truck, two trucks driving by that had signs on them that said, bak, bak, bak, uh, about, and the debate date and his picture. Um, so between that and the George Conway digital billboard, he's getting abused up here and I'm loving every second of it. Uh, the other thing, I don't know, you may want to get into this a little bit more detail, but one of the things we're going to have to fight after this election, hopefully we win is all the corporations that are buckling to shareholders and racist board of directors like Lowe's, John Deere, tractor supply company and Microsoft that are starting to backtrack pedal on DEI and tractor supply even came out and said, Oh, we're not going to participate in any future Pride events. So these fuckers are coming for things, whether or not they win or lose the election. Um, the, uh, the, uh, the white fragile ego, uh, male ego is, uh, feeling really, really under attack. Um, and you know, they're playing that victim card like no one's business and they got money. They got money and they, and they're trying to scare them. And look, we went through this in 2005 with Microsoft and Ford and fought back. I think right now, most people are focused on winning the election, but you're right. As soon as the election's over, we have got to go right back at these companies and not take their shit. If they want to be bigots, if they want to be homophobic, they're going to have it to pay a price and we're going to make them do that. And we can, but first of all, we've got to win in November, but thanks for the call. Thanks for telling us about what's going on around Bedminster. We need that. I love those kind of things. Thanks so much. Have a good weekend. We're just about at the top. I just want to thank, um, Thea and Jesse Thea is, uh, been with us all week, Jesse, the past two days. And I know John's excited to get back on Tuesday. If you're around tomorrow on this weekend, it's actually going to play several times. State of the States, my show focusing on Wisconsin. I talked to Representative Caitlyn Haywood, who's the assistant Democratic leader in that assembly. And then Allison Page, who's running for a very competitive district. gerrymandering is done in Wisconsin. It's in play. Thank you all. This week has been such a joy to spend with all of you. I've enjoyed your calls. I'm starting to get to everybody. I've enjoyed your commentary. Follow me on Blue Sky at Joe Sunday. Have a great weekend, everyone. Stay strong. Stay safe.