Power Hour with ZZP
ZZP Trivia Gameshow
(upbeat music) - All right, welcome everyone to ZGP Power Hour Number 169. Today, we're playing a little trivia. - Where's the story? - We got a lot to get through today. (laughing) - Are we not allowed? - We're live, we're not gonna be able to see us, but they can all see us and they will be able to see the questions. We'll need this because you need to see the questions and I'm gonna read 'em but you'll be able to see 'em up there as well. So, going down the line. First here, first contestant. We got boosted bow. Next up. Oh, I went the wrong way. Of course. - Let's start over. - First contestant. (laughing) I have a horrible host. - You want him to be the host? - Oh, we got him. - So we got red line Ryan, turbo Tim and boosted beak. - Boosted bow. - Boosted bow. - Are you, how many margaritas have you? - I haven't even touched it. The margaritas are sweet. - You're having multiple treats? You better worry about him. - Oh, all right. All right, all right, all right. So, it's gonna be semi-traditional, Jeopardy style, if you buzz in first, you get to answer, if you get it wrong, you get negative points. - Oh boy. - So just keep that in mind. It'll go to the next buzzer and then after an appropriate amount of time, we'll move on if no one's got it. There is one daily double and then at the final, we will have the final Jeopardy question where you can wager as much as you have or nothing. - Okay. - Just depends on how you wanna play the game. - All right. - So to kick it off to figure out, since we have no returning winners, next time we will have one, we're gonna do a little question. We'll go down the line. Closest without going over. What year was my Saturn SW2, my first car? Whoever wants to start, go ahead. - 92. - All right. 94, all right. - I was gonna say both of those. (laughing) - You see the link? - Without going over your side? - Yep. - I'll do 95. - All right. (laughing) It was 1998. - Ah. - Yup. - I thought it was probably too early. - All right. - I don't know, old S boxes, what do you mean? - Well, it's his age. You gotta think about his age. - Oh yeah, he was like four. - Yeah. - As soon as I said. - Oh, it's more than 90. - Pretty much. So dude. - Yeah, so dude, even worse, yeah. - Yeah, first car was a 98, second one was a 93. Anyway, like if you wanna get the game, rolling here, we're gonna run through the categories first. - We got a whole, we got the whole shindig here, boys. - Oh my god. - First category, good old classic ZZP. - All right, all right. Next category, we have general motors. - Okay. - Pretty broad. Third category, we have milestones in motion, all right? So things that have happened within the automotive realm. Fourth category, we have motor racing. - Cool. - And final category, we have automotive pop culture, which you can all imagine what at least one question in there will be about. - So Bo. - ZZP 200, let's do it. - ZZP 200, all right. Developed for Zoom's own Grand Prix. This was the first product. Oh. - I went too fast, Mike. - Oh my god. - I figured you got it. - All right. - What are you doing? - Yeah. - Oh, you double click. - All right. - Guys, I'm sorry. We don't know what we're doing around here. - This is obviously a new concept. So we're gonna work through some bugs. - What's up, sweat? - Oh yeah, we still have no AC up here. So it's gonna get warm. - It feels great to me. - All right, Bo. - Fourth Taliban. - I get to choose again. - You get to choose again. It's your turn. - ZZP 400. - ZZP 400. - ZZP currently has this many vehicles and it's active fleet. - Oh, it's a biased question. - Left hand. - Let's see if he gets it right. - 56. - Unfortunately, that is not true. - I need to update my spreadsheet. - On to you guys. What is 52? - Yeah. - Oh. - Somebody get replaced. - Oh, you know the problem. - I was counting construction. - Yep. - Whatever. - Doesn't count ZZP construction. I should have said that. - It's all right. - It's fair. - All right. - Tim, your choose. General Motors for $200? - All right. - In 1997, General Motors car. - Oh, really? - I think that was too. - What? - What is a 1997 Pontiac Grand Prix? - Yeah, that's it. - Wide track. - Boosted drive. - Wide track. - All right. Yeah, I got the score here. Do we want me to read the entire question? Or do you guys just want to? - I think you should have to read the entire question. I'll tell you what a Jeopardy. - Well, if you read the question, we're all gonna hit the button because you're all gonna know. - It's hard. - It's tough. Some of them are a little long-winded. - Jeopardy. You can buzz in while he's asking the question. - Okay. - Yes. - Will proceed? - Just read it. - Like that. All right, Tim, you're choose. - Motor racing for $200, boys. - Motor racing. - All right. Known for its dramatic crashes and tight competition, this annual NASCAR event is referred to as the big one. - What is a Daytona 500? - Unfortunately not. - Oh. - Talladega. - Talladega. - Yeah, yeah. All right. Well, I'm minus 200. - All right. Bose got another 200. - It brings them up to nothing. - Oh, NASCAR. (laughing) - So happy it was natural. We're not at one. (laughing) - All right, Bo, what do you got next? - You know what? Let's hit motor racing for $400. - All right. This annual 24-hour Durr's race. (laughing) What do you got? - 24-hour endurance race. - Hell of a France. - France, the Lamonts. - 24-hour of Lamonts is correct. Mike, apparently I should have written two whole things 'cause we are flying through this. - All right. (laughing) - Well, I guess we're eight minutes in. That's not too bad for how we're doing. - No, just go back to regular casuals. - Yeah, then we'll go back to chaos as always. All right. Bo, what do we got next? - Let's try miles in motion 200. - All right. - So I'm kicking it easy. - In 1921, GM discovered that tetraethyl lead was cheap to produce and began using it as a blank additive and gasoline to reduce engine dock, later being linked to neurological problems. I saw Tim hit it first. - What is lead octane boost? - Octane, that is correct. We'll accept that. - Oh, I think it's okay, okay. - All right, so Tim, you are up. - Automotive pop culture for 200, please. In the movie remake gone in 60 seconds. This is a nickname given to the 67.4 Shelby GT500. - What is Eleanor? - Yeah, Ryan in for 200. - How about you give him a final? - Well, yeah, he got 200 points, you know. - What do you get to pick next? - Now you get to pick Mr. D. - ZCP 4000 for a G, I'm scared, y'all. I'm ready to do this. - All right, ZCP 4000. Go ahead and hit it, Mike. Nope. - He's triple clicking and quadruple clicking. - Nobody said the Japanese music can make him hear him. - Oh, you might have to mute the PowerPoint window. Uh-oh, we didn't expect this. - We need to add this to the Christmas party. - It's pretty good actually, yeah. - Let's see if this is better. - All right. - All right, ZCP 4000. - Yup. - Here we go. This is our daily double question. Year to date, this product has the most sales by overall volume, and this product has the most sales by gross sale value. Supercharger coupler, and it's two separate products. So you have, oh, supercharger oil. You got one of them right. - Yeah, I get the whole thing. - You gotta get both. - Yeah, I was just gonna double the points if you got it, right? - That's fine. - Well, if you get it wrong, it's only negative 1,000. So Tim is in deep waters right now. (laughing) All right, Ryan, did you click in? - I did not. I did not click in. - Nobody, this is 2,000 points on the line. I'll give it. So within the question, you got overall volume. So the most product sold, and then the highest gross sales value, the most revenue, year to date. - There's so many products, though. - There are so many products. - 3,000 products, I was looking at, oh, God, I-- - I got a lot of guesses, but I don't want to-- (laughing) - I don't want to lose 2,000 points on the line. - We want to tap out? - I'll tap out for it. - I'm going to deep waters, boys, we get the hard ones done. - The coupler was the volume. - Yep, I never said that. - Okay. (laughing) - Did you tell me it's absurd? - Nope. - No. - Tim, yeah, yeah. - All right, Tim had half of it, right. Supercharger oil. - Oh. - And the ZCPW body coilovers. - Wow. - Oh, wow. - Not bad. - I would not have guessed. - I would have guessed the older products, though. - Yeah, yep. All right, Mike. - All right, so who chooses this one? - They've still got Jeopardy music on them. - Okay. - Would they say they hear it? - Well. - All right. - Either way, thanks for sticking with us through the growing pains. So you chose the last one, so it's back to you. - Okay. ZCP for 800. - ZCP for 800. This ZCP car currently holds the company record for the most wheel horse hour per liter. - Leading out the previous record. - Play eight wheel horse power. - Two tone. - Oh, dang it. Dang it, that was the older ever. - Right. - I forgot the. - Can I do it again? - So this is going to be the red APSB. - Also, Tim, did you buzz in before these guys? - Oh, no, it buzzed in half. - Okay, I'm going to say Matt's black LNF. - Wow. - No. - I know it. - No, you can't go back and do a second one. - You can't go back and do a second one? I don't know. - No. - Is that a rule? - No, now, I have to go away. - All right. - Oh. - It's the drags on it. - It's the drags on it. - Oh. - B2 tone by eight wheel horse power per liter. - Oh, per liter. - Can't spread fish. - That was it. All right, so I got to give everyone negative 800 here. - That's good. - Cross the board. - Dang. - So am I still choosing again? - The words came out of my mouth and I was like, no. - No. - I was going to guess that anyway, so fine. - Ryan, it's you again. - These people for 600. We'll get one of them. - All right. Zoom considers this car to be his favorite when it comes specifically to the exhaust note. - Mustang. - Yeah. - Or Mustang. - Yup. - He talks about the one from Transformers. - It's like all the time, yup. That took me a second. You were good. I don't have to keep there. - All right. But what are you picking next? - General Motors 400. - GM introduced a small block V8 in this year. - That is a horse. (laughing) - I don't know. (laughing) - What is it? - Is it May before, is it the April 4 97? I don't know that. - It's well before that. - I'm assured. - So I got to answer it. - Yeah. - I don't think so. - No. - Then you don't have to answer. - I've got a hundred points. - I'm tapping out. - I don't know. - Whatever the heck we're winning. - Nobody knows this. - Nobody knows this? - No. I don't know. I've never cared to learn a small block in Big Black stuff. - Not even Turbo 10. - Nope. - I thought Tim would know. All right. The year was 1955. - I would not. I would guess like 83 or something like that. - I wouldn't remember that, but. - Hey, excellent. - Man, he got him three years on. - Oh, did he do 52 or 58? - 58. - Okay, all right. - I was gonna guess 57. - Yeah, that would have been a good guess, but wrong. - Wrong. (laughs) - All right. Who's get, who's choosing? - Oh. - Probably me. - Oh again, yeah. - Let's do General Motors 600. - All right. This subsidiary of General Motors established in 1989 was discontinued in 1997, making it the shortest lived wholly owned modern GM brand. - Pontiac. - Oh. - Shortest owned. (laughing) - 89 to 97. - That's stupid. - 97. - It only ran for eight years. Think of early 90s GM cars that you'd never see any of them anymore. (crowd cheering) - Postmobile? - No! - I was gonna say that too. - I was gonna say that too. - Established in 1989? Postmobile was like 1902. (laughing) - What was this, Mike 600? I gotta give everybody wrong. - Oh, I didn't say that. - I know, not you. - You're better off not answering. - Yeah. (laughing) - I'm gonna say, I don't know. - Nobody's gonna have anything to wager. - Yeah. - Good chat, no. - Josh. - What? - Hold on. - Eight years. Think of a really obscure car brand that GM owned. They made small cars. Nothing big. - Geo. - Yes! (crowd cheering) - The Geo Metro, the Geo Storm, the Geo Tracker. - Oh, yeah. - All right, Ryan, that was 600 points for you. You're looking the best right now. - I'm back, man. - Yeah. - That's like negative 200. - Let's see, Ryan is... - I think positive now. - No. - Zero. - All right. (laughing) - Even Mario. - Nope, sorry, negative 200. Yep. (laughing) Let's see, Tim is at negative 1600. (laughing) And Bo is... - Negative 400. - Negative 400. So Tim is in the lead. Or no. - No. - Ryan's in the lead. - I'm in the lead. - With negative 200. - We're going back. - This is like off. - Yeah. - Paying caps. - Okay. - Get me our more pop culture for 400. - All right. Released in 1983, a Prince song peaked at number six on the US Billboard featuring this vehicle in the title of the song. - Can you have me put... Oh, God. (crowd cheering) - Pink Cadillac. - No! (laughing) - I'm gonna guess. - I'm trying. - I'm never getting negative 1600. (laughing) - Holy cow. - Dude, miss your salary. - Okay. - I'm gonna do a bet. - No, you too. - Sick of famous Prince songs. There's like two that everybody should know. And one has a car today. - I didn't listen to Prince until you gave me the first song of the... I've heard of it like two months ago. (laughing) - Like I'm not doing it. - I hope somebody in the chat knows. - Yeah. - Pass that down here. - I mean, Google. - All right. Well, it appears that everyone is passing. It's Little Red Corvette. - Never heard of something. - Never heard of something. - Really? - Okay. - Well, I think I've heard of the term. (laughing) Wasn't a Prince fan. - Okay. - Right of it. - You're trying to challenge it. - I'm on my own six hundred. - Six hundred. - All right. - Five hundred of pop culture is six hundred. And the movie Transformers, this type of car is what the Autobot, let me finish the whole question. Transforms into in its original form before upgrading to the Chevy Corvette. Come here. (dog barks) Who? - Tim Tim, tell us first. - Volkswagen Beetle? - Yes. - Volkswagen Beetle for six hundred. - This type of car. - Where, where, where, where. - It was before he transformed into the Camaro. - Remember, he was in the junkyard. - Yeah. - I think that's one news in the cartoon. - Yeah, he's down in the cartoon, but in the movie. - In the movie? - Pulls in the Berniebacks car lot as a Beetle. - Yup. - And then transfers over to the Camaro. - I see, that was a very, okay, all right. - That's why I said listen to the whole question. - Yup, yup. - They're getting a little trickier. - They are. - All right, Tim. - All right, Tim. What do you got? - Milestones in, Milestones in motion for 400. - Tim, put the number of them. - The United States first speeding ticket was issued in 1904 for going this speed. (laughing) - These are not. (laughing) - These are Randy Red Throw, and he's like, "Oh, they're glad I'm not up there." 'Cause I can do all of these. All right, so think about 1904. Cars are like buggies. - I have my damn shit. - But I'm scared to say I'm not confident. - Horses were faster than cars at this point. - I'm a winner. - I'm trying to be real confident. - You gotta be the exact speed? - I'll give, within five, closest without going over. - Oh, so you all have to guess. - No, no, no, no, no. Do we lose points if we guess, right? - If you're the only one to guess, and you don't go over, then you get it. (laughing) - All right, Bo. - Kids, what have you got? - I'm gonna guess 29 miles an hour. - I'm gonna guess 35 miles an hour. - Okay. - I'm gonna guess. What was your guess? - 29. (laughing) - Well, you're all wrong. It was 12 miles an hour. (laughing) - I was going this, right? - The speed limit was 10. (laughing) - Nice. - What year was that? - 1904. - How did they measure that back in 1904? Probably somebody running next to it. - 12? - All right, so that's negative 400 for everybody. - Yeah, thanks for talking us into that, Tyler. (laughing) - Yeah, this is brutal. - This is brutal, but it's, you know? - All right. - I'm gonna get in a little bit. - I think, is it back to me? - Mm-hmm. - Let's go General Motors for 800. - Oh, God, Tim. - This GM division founded it in 1911, specializes in luxury vehicles and boasts the slogan, "Standard of the World". - What? - Was it kind of like? - Yes. - Oh, I guess, I totally guess. I'm like, I guess. - Good guess, that was what I would have guessed. It's a good 800 points. - 800 points? That's a big swing at this point. (laughing) All right, Ryan, what do you got? - I'm old pop culture, 800. - 800. This vehicle has appeared most frequently in the Fast and the Furious franchise, appearing in the original and six other installments. - What'd it say on the Supra? - It's not the Supra. - It's not the Supra. - Oh, I know what it is, fuck. - What, a Nissan Skyline? - No. - What? - I'll do it yet. - Oh, I know what it is. - Oh, I know what it can. - Oh, I know what it is. - What is the Dodge Charger? - Yeah, Dodge Charger, yup. - But you don't get that. - Yeah, so you get zero. - I'll take zero. - That's fine. - That's fine, I'll take zero. - We'll give you zero for that. - I'll take zero. - Yeah, it's been in seven of the different movies. - Yeah, 'cause it was in the first and then he's had it as a hero calling every movie. - Almost every movie and then there was the Dodge Chargers that hold the bank all and, you know. So yeah, that was a tricky one. That was a tricky one. - All right. - It wasn't too fast, too furious. - What's that? - There wasn't Tokyo Drift 2 at the end. - It wasn't the Charger. - No, it wasn't the Charger. - It wasn't the Charger and Tokyo Drift 2. - Vin shows up, but he's not in charge. - Yeah, but he's not a Charger. He's gonna do everything. He's not an El Camino, it's something else. It's a weird card. - That was a Charger at the end. - Not a Charger. - We'll run it back after the show. - Yeah. - All right, Rimes, you got it wrong, not wrong, go ahead. - We'll go for our more popcorn for 1K. - 1K. - In 2001's "The Fast and the Furious," this engine component is what Paul Walker's character, Brian O'Connor, fried in his Mitsubishi Eclipse. - Fried piston rings. (laughing) - I knew Ryan would get that. - The piston rings, me and the mass scientist got to take part the block and replace the piston rings at your front. (laughing) - There it is. I knew it. All right, Ryan, you're on a roll. - All right, I'm gonna start knocking somebody down. I'm gonna get Tim a little scared. Motor racing for 1K. 1K. - This record quarter mile time for a 3,300 gram free is still held by ZZP's Matnikoff. - 8-6. - 8-6. - 8.6 in a quarter mile, baby. - Do you know the mile per hour? - Extra points of no extra points. - Nah, I'm just bragging about it. - I don't know, I don't know. - It's 157, 160 something. - 159. - 159. - I'm gonna say, I know it's, I remember that. - That's pretty good, pretty good. All right, what do we got next? - Zero motors for a K. - All right. GM introduced this vehicle in 2005 after purchasing a 20% interest in Fuji heavy industries in 1999. - I'm trying to trick question, I have an idea. I'm trying to trick one. - 2005, it was in production for two or three years. Just think of Fuji heavy. - What, what might that represent in terms of armor? - Weird crossover cars, it's not a crossover. - Okay. - But it was a GM vehicle, but it wasn't. We get what I'm-- - That's in five. - You get what I'm putting down here. A rebadged something. - Yeah. - I think you got her, Ryan. - Yeah? - Time to act fine. - No! - No! - Yes. (laughing) - Don't hide the other way. I'm like, ooh, this is Toyota, it's rebadged. - Very close, very close. - No idea. - No idea? - I'm still winning, so I'm looking. - The Saab 92x, the Sabaru. It was a WRX. - Oh, the W. - The Fuji Heavy Industries was super. - Nice, yeah, super. - I couldn't find any of my brain there. - Yep. - All right, Ryan is still you. We got five questions left. Plus, final Jeopardy. - I'm a truly confident right now. - My soul's emotional, a thousand. I'm not gonna get this one. - A thousand, all right. - I'm gonna mess it up. - In 1962, GM had to reduce this car, making it the first series production car with us? - Turbocharger. - Corvair. - Wrong. (laughing) - Yes, yes, pay back. - No? - We talked about this in the alphabet. - We did, yeah. - That's a good this time. Make it the first series. - Not confident. - I was confident. - You were? - It weren't. - It's not the quarter of the. No guesses from? - I don't know, old cars, these are all 30 years too old. - Mike was just talking about this, Mike. - Yeah. - Yeah. All right, go ahead and hit it, Mike. It's the old mobile cutless turbo jetfire. - What is the turbo jetfire? What is it? - That's what they called it, the turbo jetfire. - What is it? - If I recall that used window washer solvent as an intercooler. - Yeah, yeah. - You're right. - I knew the car I just wasn't. - Yeah, I was a thousand. (laughing) - All right, so I'm gonna go miles those in motion for 800. - 800. - Keep your guys scared down. - In the 1950s, this innovation by General Motors revolutionized driving convenience by introducing the first mass produced automatic transmission. What was that automatic transmission called? They still use this term to this day. The term for this type of auto. - Man, I have, I am so. - Hydromatic? (screaming) - I wasn't for sure of myself. - I mean, I'm just guessing that. (laughing) - I was too afraid of the negatives. - Hell yeah. - Let's do motor racing 800. - There we go, Bo. - All right, this person holds the world record for a four cylinder and a quarter mile using an eco tech based engine with a time of five, eight, two, and at 242 miles per hour. - Here we, here we, that's the first name with a shot. - Their, their name. - But if nobody else can guess anything else, I suppose. - Yeah, a half points for the shot. - It's a red car. - Yeah, I know what it is. - Yeah, we all know the car. He's Canadian. - Yeah, I know exactly the car, but now I'm also not confident in the name of the shot. I had it in my head, I'm like, 'cause it's like, it's the name of a city. So I'm like. - It is a good thing Matt's not up here 'cause he's killing it. - The drag way that he may or may not work out. - It doesn't help. (grunting) - A lot of negative points. (laughing) - Go ahead and guess. - Nope, I'm good. - I learned my lesson. - All right. - It's Carl Brunette. - Yep. - It's Naperville Racing, right? - Yep. (laughing) - You would have had half points. You could have had it. - So close. (laughing) - All right, we got two more. - Let's finish up motor racing 600. - This prestigious event is held annually on the Better Tyranian Seas Northern Coast and have been a staple of the Formula One calendars. It's 1929. It's a race. It's a Formula One. - This is all you, Tim. - Yeah. - Nope, it's only Tim I'm sorry. - 1929 has been going on a long time. - It's like a prestigious affair. - I know. - It's a formula one. - It's a race that they do every year, right? - Every year. - Yeah. - Monitor. - Yes. - I couldn't think of this. - Yeah, I was trying. I can talk to Airman that he came to me. Monitor, yes. - Nice. - Monitor Grand Prix. - All right, Ryan. - But you know, we got the new last one. - Last one. On November 1st, 1982, Honda became the first Japanese automaker to produce automobiles in America with. This model rolled off the assembly line and Mary's bill Ohio. - It's too obvious. - That's right, that's right, that's too obvious. I can't do it. - Somebody's gotta do it. It's easy. - No! - What? - Don't do that. - Went way back earlier than that. - Yup. - Okay. - One Motor Transcar of the Year for many, many years. (dramatic music) - You hit it! You hit it! - You hit it! Sit! - Oh, come on! There's two cars that Honda makes. - Honda Accord. - Yes! - Hey, hey, hey, hey. - I wrote Tim Gitties in the air. - Oh, boys. All right. - That was tight. - If you wanna chat amongst yourselves, let me add this up. - All right, China. - It's a final jeopardy. - That was fun, man. - That was fun, I didn't like that, but holy crap. So, I remember the comments. - You were the most guaranteed to win. Both of them. - I called it in the office, I said, "Ryan, Derek's taking this." - Say, ah! (laughing) - Dude, pulp culture is your lane. - Yeah, that was your lane. Tim called that too, yeah, absolutely. - Yeah, the pressure, there's a lot of pressure. Like when they say it and you're like, and I'm like, "Well, I couldn't think of Monza." - Yeah. - I couldn't think of Monza. I was like, "Hintz, get you thinking." And then you're like, "Oh, I know!" - I was like, "Ah!" - And then you take one negative 1,000 and you're like, (laughing) - You never pushed that button. - But see, that's three and two. You go to the high one, first and the other one else, guessing wrong, yeah, yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah, that was my bad. - Oh, that was great. - I just bummed, I didn't get the dang, ZZP highest horsepower per cubic inch one. - Yeah. - You couldn't think of that about that. - The cubic is screw me up. - Real horsepower. - Yeah, that's screw me up. - It was like, 545 to 540, or 538, something like that. - Yeah. - 'Cause it was 641 on the Sonic and 898 on two-tone, but two liters. - Yeah. - Yeah, it's two liters. - All right, so we got 16. - Do we get what? - All right, all right. - Did you count the red one ever? What am I supposed to red one was? - It's less because 3.6. - I did, we did. - Yup. All right, so, we got in third place. Tim Bobi with negative 1200. (laughing) Mr. Bo Cobb in second with negative 1000. And with a positive score of 1200. - What? - Wow. - 2,200 gap? - Yeah. 2,400 gap. - Turn up the boost. - All right, now to make it interesting. - No, don't do that, I wanna win this one. I need some negative V this week. - We'll give these guys with negative points. - Can you guys see the chat now? - Yes, again. - All right, Jack. - Mr. Thomas, you bet against me. I saw you in the chat, you bet against me. (laughing) - Well, apparently we need Matt Meekoff up here. - No, we don't, we don't, we don't, we don't. - Because he would walk away with it now. - Yeah, he would. That's good at this stuff. - All right, so what do we think? You guys are down, I mean, even, yeah. It's Ryan could just bet zero and then it would be no fun. - I'm gonna bet zero. - Or we give you guys 600. So you can bet 600, have a potential for 12. So it means Ryan has to bet one one. - Don't do it. - But that means all three of you have to get it right. - Don't do it. - Now that I know these questions are much more difficult than I thought. (laughing) Let me read this. - You said mine were all too busy. - Yeah, well. - Tim, I don't know where this is on your team. You are to go. - Okay, this is, this is gettable. - Sorry about that. - This is, this is gettable. - So are we, are we doing the bet what you got? So they can bet negative 1000 and hopefully go to zero. (laughing) - I don't think it works like that. - I think it, let's. - Bo and I are swiping our credit cards. - Yes, yeah. - Let them bet the points they have and they can be bounced out to be zero. - All right. Okay, that sounds good. - I'm good with that. - All right, so Tim, you want to bet what you got? - Yup. - Could be zero. Ryan, how much you want it? - Zero. - Oh, really? - Yup. - I'm doing, I'm doing the boost. - Okay. - Hey, that's good. - That's good. - Zero, same and same. All right. - This is points. (laughing) - We're about the win here, boys. - Yup. - All right, final Jeopardy question. Oh, you guys got to think it in your head. - Okay. - Oh, we got doo doo doo. - Oh, wait. No, no, no, here. - Write it down. - Write it down. - Okay. - Yeah, do we have pins? - I got one, Penn. We can pass it down. - I got one. - One. - Ah! - Tim? - Got it. - Sorry, you're catching in the lights. - Yeah. - I lost it. - Okay. - All right, sheet of paper for everyone. This Pontiac model introduced in 1958. - Oh, God. - holds the title of the longest running name plate in the brand's history. Beating out another model by just one year, name that model. - Ooh, ooh, is this a tricky guy? - It's doable. - Ooh, but it ended early. - I haven't, ooh. - This and the other model ran for at least 45 years. One beat it by one year. - I have. - So I'm looking for the longest running. - Only got it, really. - I know, it's one of two. - It's one of two. - I know, I know both of them, a 50-inch shot here. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Oh, you can see where I was already at. - Yeah, they're my, yeah. I was already, it's too late. We saw it already. I'm not even hoping. But those are my two guesses. - I'll have you guys read them off. Starting with Ryan. - Grand Prix. - Ryan says the Grand Prix. - Grand Prix. - Also Grand Prix. - Also says the Grand Prix. - It's a Bonneville. - It's a Bonneville. - It's going to be Bonneville Grand Prix. - So the Bonneville must have been a lot earlier. - The Bonneville was earlier, but it ended sooner. And then the Grand Prix got like three years. - Bonneville was 58 to 2005. - Yup. - And Grand Prix was 62 to, oh wait, oh wait. So it was beat it by one model year. - So I don't know, if I guessed it. - That was a good question. - Bonneville, they were counting like the G8. - That's a G8. - That's not a Grand Prix. - The G8 was a real drive. - Yeah. - That's a G8. - Yeah. - That was a good question. - That was a great, great, great. - That was like, I was like, oh, see the bottle drop. I feel like it was a trick question. It was a bottle drop. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - All right, well, we got 20 minutes to BS up here. I think that went pretty well. I thought that was good. - That was very good. And I was shook. - I was shook. - I was shook. - So obviously Ryan D comes away with the victory with 1200 points. - Positive, baby. - Yeah. - We need to pause this. - Cheers to winners. - It's not a good feeling hitting that button and saying something to Tyler goes. - So the next time we do this, are we going to have like the winner and then two new people? - Oh, that's a good question. I think we have the winner. - You're not remembering Matt and Nico over here. - Matt, you're not remembering Matt over here. You will never leave. - Matt Meekov is going to be the Ken Jennings. - Yeah. - And he'll be 30 years from now. And he's like, yep. - And he's still here. - Yep. - Yep. (laughing) - Yeah, no, so next time we'll make the questions a little easier, the, I think like a couple were long winded and goofed up in the way they were said. - I thought the questions were fine. - Yeah. - I thought the question was. - You got to charge your honor. Two of you got to charge your honor. - It was a bit of a trick because your mind goes straight to the Supra. - Well, because the Supra has appeared in a lot of them. Even if it's in the background. - Yeah. - It's in almost every movie. There's a Supra. And even if it's not the orange one, it's a white one. - Yeah. - For Paul, it's like white one. It's an almost, I think it might be equal with the charger. Like if you look at it, like it's in scenes. - Now I did get this info from the Fast and Furious wiki fandom page, but you know, could be wrong, could be right. - I really liked this ECP questions. Those were my favorite. - Those were the good. - I am honestly upset that you beat me to the Zoom question. I've had drunken rants with Zoom that when he had used to have his house parties at his condo about how good the money. He literally squatted the whole party down. You remember this. He quiesed everyone, everyone. Listen to this car. And he's heard of a Transformers movie. - Yeah. - It's the cop Transformers. - Yeah. - Yeah. - To punish and enslave. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. He will play the movie. He started when people were like, "This is how good it sounds. "I'm gonna get him on stage just to make a sound like this." I'm like. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - But all like the history questions, I will never get those. - Those were tough. - Like if you do some 2000s stuff. - Yeah. - That's an obviously I'm sorry about getting into it, but like the history history, I'm never gonna get that. - Yeah. The old Cutless Turbo Jetfire probably could have been a thousand. - Yeah. - Yeah. - That was a thousand. - That was a tough one. - And the hydromatic was a little tough, but you know-- - Like I didn't think so. Come on, Paul. - He got it. - You got it. - He got it. - Like there was definitely a couple I was sleeping on that I was just too scared to say. - Yeah. - You know, like-- - You lose the confidence in the question. - Yeah. - Not a few times. Just like that. - And we're like, you get beaten to hate, you get chomped in the head of the character. You're chomped in the head again. - Yeah, the one with two answers was confusing. - That was a tough one. - I don't, I will say maybe no more two answer ones 'cause that one you gotta give. - Yeah, that was really hard. - Yeah, that was really hard. - Like my brain went, was so hard on the first one. - The volume. - That I could not think about the second one. Like I was so hung up on the first one. Like two questions. Two questions are tough. - Yeah. - Make daily doves just make 'em like an answer though. - Yeah, and not. - Not like two parts. - I was like, oh, this one has two answers. It's daily double. - Yeah. - No, I did it. - No credit, I'm just saying like, that was great. - Yeah, pretty cool of those W body guys showing up and showing out by a crap ton of coilovers. - Dude, that blows my mind. - That blows me away. That's one of our newer products. - Yeah, like that's like three years. - Three or four years. - Three years we've been selling that. And that is, that one is the most out of any. - That buys sales dollar amount year to day. - That is insane. Shout out to you W body guys, man. I came to hate. - It's a killer upgrade. I mean, you think about all the Grand Prix or any W body on the road. Like, start looking at strut options. You want a good performance strut and you're up there into the coilover price. And that's literally what we brought 'em to market to be is you know, you didn't get a top hat, you get all the adjustability. It's a complete drop-in replacement for everything that's worn, you know? - Unlike the BCs, with the BCs, they're good. But you don't get the top hat with ours. You get a perf week. - Yeah, the rear's got camber adjustment now. Like, it's nice because you get to replace so many worn out components with the coilovers. - 20 year old plus items. - And that's a thing that a lot of people don't consider when they're buying lowering springs is, they're just expecting to whip their old springs off and put 'em back together. But you got fun stops, you got warm struts, you got top hats, like, it adds up. - The pogo washers, you gotta buy so many parts. - Just to make it work. - And then you get into it. And then you got that like grenade of taking that nut off the top plate. Like, yeah, don't do it like me. - Just drop the whole thing. - 16-foot and lowering springs on the Saturn. Sittin' there with a wrench and then it just goes. - Yeah. - All over the garage. - I just usually stand on the top plate itself and zing the nut off and just let the strut shoot across the floor. I've never had a situation. It just shoots out 20 feet away and you're good. - I just bought some spring compressors on Amazon about 10 years ago and I still have 'em. - Yeah. - It worked just fine. - At times, I was like, my new shop to do H&R loaners for these. I was too scared. - Yeah. - I couldn't work. - So, compressors take too long. I just wanna get it done. Let's get this done. - He wants to die right now. - Just zing that nut off and just Tim's like six-ball trial for three years. - So, tell me I saw yesterday too that, you know, I think it'd be a cool thing to talk about. Just one of the last 20 minutes is car rivalries. I saw a video yesterday of an LSJ racing an ACR SRT4. - Oh yeah, I saw that too. - For those people that don't remember back in the early days of the Cobalt SS, that was the rivalry. All the LSJ guys were trying to beat the SRT4 guys. - Oh yeah. - You have a stage two LSJ against the stock SRT and they would win. But then the S2 does one thing and the LSJ guys were doing it as much as they could to try to keep up. And I was in that, the LSJ had two main rivals. It was the SRT4s and the Ford lightnings. - The Ford Lightning dudes? - Like the truck? - Yeah. - Really? - They were surprisingly, there were so many videos of Cobalt SS versus Ford Lightning out there. - Huh. - And then the SRT4 guys, and then the SRT4 guys, it was a war when the SRT4 guys came over to like the Cobalt 4s were talking shit about how slow our car is. - Oh yeah, I remember that. - But then the LSJ came out and the LSJ started gapping people. - Yep. - Ryan D. Trivia, my very first street race was against the SRT4. - No, it had to be. - Yeah. Like it was a, it was a, I had a Honda race craft cap back on the car before. I wasn't even whizzied to have the snowball back before that. It's a totally stock car. Got it like five days. (laughing) And then I went to this place called Doty Road in Chicago. And it was an old street race spot. - Yep. - And this guy was, oh dude, this one was in Turbo Cobalt. So I'm pulling onto the line. Man, my buddy and his old Honda say we're gonna race. He rushed in front of him. I was like, no, I can't race in my camera. So then I was like, you know what? Ryan, go to the line, do the LNF, you know, launch control. - Launch control. - Yeah. - It sounds good. (laughing) - Did that, launched it, no lifting every gear, beating by half a car the whole way. - Nice. - So that was my very first race. Like, dude, this thing, my idea, I'm like, dude, I have a cat back. I have the dealer installed. - Yeah. - And it sounded stock. It was white. - So on that, what would have been the biggest rival to the Grand Prix? - That's, yeah. - What had it been? - I didn't like the Camaro and... - Definitely the Mustangs. - Yeah. - That's like anything. - Oh man, like, back then Mustangs were terrible. - Oh, they were so slow. - Oh, yeah. - They were full, terrible. Like a Grand Prix GTP would probably beat a brand new Mustang off the showroom floor. - Probably. - Yeah. - That was a bad era of Mustang. - Yeah, like 240 horsepower versus like, they were rated like 230. - Yeah. - Like, overrating it 'cause they were super slow. - Yeah, they were definitely overrating Mustangs back then. - They put a 34 pulley on it. - On the old days of the Grand Prix 4 is what was the Grand Prix rival? Like, I'm unaware, like... - I mean, everything. It was a, what, the greatest thing of the Grand Prix was, it was all the 40-somethings of the time sneaking in a mod car into their family of like, a wife and two or three kids. - Yep. - Like, all of our customers in the original days were 40-somethings. And they all would call me and say, "Don't call this number. "You do not call this number." - Don't include the begging slip. - Yeah, 'cause I was always like, I was always taking phone, like, phone orders. And I would be like, you know, name and address and phone number and all this. And he was like, "Okay, I'm gonna give you my phone number, "but put on it, do not call." - Did I call? - Yeah. - Like, they would say they don't want it. - They don't want it coming across the home phones. Easy performance. What is this? - So Matt is saying that even in the lightneys and the Grand Priest had a robbery are maybe the SHOs. So I mean, the obvious-- - SHOs probably were a pretty decent, for a stock for stock. - Think so? I guess, I guess-- - I think they made similar power. I think a SHO made like two-thirds. - 'Cause the old ones were naturally aspirated for each, right? - No, you're talking about the SHOs? - Oh, not the new ones, though. - They're talking the old ones like the V6. - The Yamaha engine. - Yamaha, high-strong no-torque heaven. - Yeah. - That's true, no-torque. - Like, where the Grand Prix would just walk in. - Yeah, the Grand Prix would murder an old-school SHO. - Go for it. - 'Cause I don't even know if the V8 SHO was quicker. Was it? - I don't think so. - 'Cause it was like heavier and like-- 'Cause that was the really ugly ones. - It was terribly ugly. - And then they were all automatics? - Oh yeah. - Like-- - And then they moved into the EcoBoost ones that eventually down the line. - Yeah, the EcoBoost, yeah. - Yeah. - 'Cause I don't think I think of the Marauders. Like, I'm like-- - Oh, yeah. - Was that the Marauders? - Like, the Marauders and the-- - Those are so rare, so limited production. - Okay. - So they weren't really a thing. - Yeah, if they want to find a clean Marauder now, it's like 20-30 grand. - That's insane. - That's kind of crazy. - They are real, like-- - They're cool cars. - They're really weird cars that like-- - I would say it's more akin to the old Impala Assesses. - Yeah. - Like LT1, big body couch, having ass, you know? - Yeah, for sure. That is like, I mean-- - Yeah. - Oh, Gordon, I'm glad you mention it. The Mazda millennia comes with a supercharger on it. Phenolic rotors. - What? - What? - Yes. - Rear-floor-- - Real or-- - Phenolic rotors. - That is insane. - That's a pretty neat-- It's a neat car that never really got any love. The millennia, was that the two-door one, or was that? 'Cause they had the 323 and the 626 for a while, and those were just kind of-- - Car duress. - I'm pretty sure they were all four-door, but somebody with Google can jump in. - Okay. - But see, what's cool about this, we don't have that anymore. - Now. - Like, there's not many times you can think of like, even the sonics and stuff, like, we don't have another, the sonic do's battling it out with like-- - Yeah, that's true. - Yes, the ST do's and stuff like that, or like-- - You don't have-- - They're pretty decent. - Yeah, like-- - Even the Camaro guys, like, Camaro guys, I'm kind of calling you out here. We don't have the LTG Camaro guys that are bound now with the two, three, four guys. We just don't have anyone that's really-- - They're doing it, like, they're comparable cars, but you don't see them like, oh yeah, you know, I'm, you know, I got to be-- - I got to be my buddy's Mustang, yeah. - I got my buddy's two, three Mustang and stuff there. They're being older, five-o's and all that stuff, but like-- - MSW, gotta love that shout out too. Contour SVT, yep, I remember that one. - That was basically the Taurus three liter, but it was a two-five. My buddy had one that was all modded out, and he put the Taurus three liter in his contour. So he pulled the two-five out and put his two-five heads, if I recall, on the three-liter engine and put it in the car. - That had probably the coolest intake manifold. - Those days, those intake manifolds were sweet. - And it was early, early times of, 'cause I think they had variable runners. - Yeah. - Like they had a long one and a short one that went to the same cylinder and they changed, depending on RPM. - Man, it's pretty cool, yeah. - Man, like, what is crazy too, like, Tim brought up earlier, like, the V8s, I think if you look at the V8s of the day, you will see how far technologies come. - Oh, yeah. - Because back, like, in the mid '90s and stuff like that, you had, like, the Bonneville's were V8s and stuff like that, and they were slow. - I had a grand prix, the same car. - Yeah. - I had an 84 grand prix with a 305. - Yeah. - It was so slow. - Those, like, the V8s of that time were not impressive. - No, and it really wasn't until 2004, 2006, when they, I mean, it was, like, the introduction of the LS1. - Yes. - Was really when it started. - Yeah. - But what the-- - Actually work. - Maybe a '97, late '97 or early '98? - First year? - '99, it was '99 to '01. - Yeah. - It was LS one time. - They were a little bit behind the grand prix. - '99? - Yeah. So, what is interesting about this too, 'cause I'm getting back all the old surprise cars at that time. And I'm gonna talk about one that I know our company, it's not really what we work on, it's tough. But the '03, '04, Mustang cobras with the blowers. - Man, like, see-- - When I said Mustang against grand prix earlier, that's kind of where I'm from. - That's where you were thinking. - Oh, that Mustang murdered everything. - That was-- - That Ford-- - That was these-- - Ford had, the all their Mustangs were slow. - Yep, yep. - They all sucked from, like, the Fox body into the '90s, you know, the '95. The '94, like, yeah, like, they were all terrible. And then they come out with this cobra. I swear somebody in Ford was like, "You know what, we're sick of being the slowest sports car, made of all the manufacturers." Let's freaking throw this, let's put a cobra together. And then they ran it for two years. - Yep. Because one of the coolest cars ever made. - Yep. - Like-- - We know, it was even crappier, so no, they ran it for four, but the first two years was naturally accurate, but in the last two years, then they put the M112 blowers on there. - Yeah. - But man, so when I was with the snowball stuff, you, if a '03 '04 Cobra came up, "Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo," you know, we'd come through the park and all you were like, "That's serious." And then it was like, "All right, who wants to race?" And you know, I'm like, "Everybody in there." You know how many '04 Cobras I raced with a freaking cobalt? So many. As you guys think, 'cause I was sent, 'cause a cobalt at the time was like, it was the, I was a little assassin car, 'cause no one knew what this thing was. I had my ZCP S252 kit making 4.30, and so-- - Back in what year? - Back in like 2011. (laughing) - That's a fast car. - Yeah, I was so-- - I mean, any 400-- - I remember-- - I remember-- - There was a guy in there, I'm gonna throw some names. I'll see you guys don't know the name, but the guy's name was Reggie. He had Reggie coming up. He had him, he was a south side brother. He had a black '04 Cobra. He was talking smack against four cylinders and all that stuff, and I had to run around with a gang of DSM guys. And so, I was like, I had a guy with a Glock VR4, a guy with a DSM that ever ran, and you know, another guy was, and I was a fastest guy on the crew, you know? (laughing) So, he comes up like, "Ryan, we gotta see you take out Reggie." I'm like, "All right, let's go do it." So they carve his Reggie. Come on down to the spot, we got a car for you. He's like, "Yeah, I got it done for him." He's like, "We got a cobalt for you," and then he laughed. - Yup. - I raced that car, that was the closest race, but I got him by about a car. Tossed it in the fourth on the highway. - Whoo! - We were moving, but that's the-- - What is the fifth? - Fourth, we were moving. But man, that thing-- (screaming) - Oh yeah, that sounded so good. - Yeah, I still would love to own one. The problem is, the problem is if you buy one, the first mod is a race seat. - Oh, the seats are terrible. - Yeah, like the seats were not great, but the seat position, they're all made for people that are like five, five. - Yeah, they're okay. - You're a six-foot tall person, your knees are like touching the steering wheel, you're like, "What is going on here?" So, race seat, boom, done. - They also came, I've seen two in my life with the Mr. Chrome. - Yes. - Corbeth? - Oh yeah. - Oh, that is a beautiful color in person. You know, the new Mustang GTD is coming out. - Yeah, yep. - And they have, when you order it, you can get any color, like Porsches paint to sample. But people started ordering them Mr. Chrome, and Ford was like, "Nope, can't do it, can't do it." No way. And we were like, "I'll pay you $30,000 extra." And they're like, "Nope." - If you think about it-- - Because now, if you have a Mr. Chrome Mustang and want any sort of body part repainted, it's thousands and thousands of dollars. - Isn't that the car that back in the day, there was a guy that could spray it? - I think so. - And like you and the whole-- - You'd have to pay this guy to travel to your location and like paint the car at the dealer. - I think it's still the same thing. - Yeah. - Like there's only one or two people in the entire United States-- - Because I saw that, like I saw the Mr. Chrome on the non-supercharged Cobra, and it was like mind-blowing. It was like-- - It's so incredible. - Oh, you've never seen anything like that before, back then, you know? But yeah, that's a wild car. Oh man, look at that. Look at the Trofeo. - Oh, Trofeo? - Is that what your mom had? No, what does she have? Gluttle. - Yeah. I mean, what it was, I'm forgetting. - It's not a Trofeo. - It's a Trofeo, I've never heard of an old Stray. - It's a really neat car. - Yeah. - It's like the car that we like. Old classic, really neat, unique car. - The cool old Beretta's. They're all buying Beretta's. - Yeah, I know why I am. - I am not buying Beretta's. - Oh man, I would so own a Beretta. Oh man. - I'll give you my share, Beretta. (laughing) - Yeah, Gordon mentioned GM used to offer a blower for the quad for it, which would have been great. Wait, you know what? I got a subject, you guys, all you guys online, like throw them in. So I've got this tail of the dragon group that a lot of us go to. And we've been talking about like doing a joke here of like $4,000 budget, coolest frickin' car. Throw out your favorite $4,000 or less cool cars. Underrated cars, car purchase price, $4,000. - All in budget. - And you can model it. - Or all in budget. - Kind of all in budget. - All right, all right. - I got some tennis shoes. I got some tennis shoes. That's my all $4,000. - Like I said, I've pretty much found like, you know, with me, like my hobby is like looking for cars for sale. So it's like, I've come up with a lot of cool $4,000 cars before. - And no way, come on. - I'll let everybody throw theirs in for a while and then I'll throw the one that I have on top of my list. - I wanna hear yours right now. I don't wanna wait. - I feel like you could find a Vibe GT. With the six speed, the two ZZ. - Can you, a Vibe GT? Those things were like a few years, but they were like seven grand. - I don't know, maybe not. But I feel like that can be fun. - Okay, okay, okay. - That'd be pretty fun. - One thing about online is there are websites that you can spend times three the price for the same car if you go to this place to look for the vehicle. - Okay, yeah. - Or if you just look for this vehicle and you just find somebody that just has this S box in their backyard that needs an alternator or something but they don't feel like you can find good deals on them. - Oh, yeah, especially if you're searching for a specific car, you go to that page on Facebook, find that group, and then just chill out for a little while and somebody offers something up and you're like, oh, yeah. - What did you say? - What's that going about? - Go ahead, no, go ahead. I was just gonna say this also falls into the stuff. Tyler and I used to smack talk about them. $5,000 budget, build a platform car, and then we got a road course racing, we got a drag racing, and we got to do like a, you know, cruise or something. - Yeah, let's also apply that to the same thing. So like a four or $5,000 budget, that's $1,000. Let's change it to $5,000. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - All in, like you have to buy the car and obviously every car needs some things. Like I don't think maintenance items should be required, or like in that. So like if it needs an alternator, like an alternator shouldn't be included. - That's in it. It's hard cap, man. - No, I agree with both. Because if you say it's buy some shitbox, it needs a lot of parts. - Yeah, that was something, yeah. - That's true, you can buy some of my Jeep car. - Yeah, yeah. So, you know, so if you get a car that is, that is not included in, you like both say you can buy one, like they've also, tags needs to be included. Like if you're talking about $4,000. - Oh no, you can't do that. That eats into it too much. - Four dollars? - This is a little insight into how Tim's brain works when he's a car. (laughing) That part of the car budget doesn't count. (laughing) - It's what I paid for it. And how much the turbo costs it's better back here than in, man. (laughing) - Tires are maintenance, breaks are maintenance, you know. - It's all maintenance. (laughing) - And these are against the across the day. - I'm basically saving this car, you know. I'm keeping it out of the scrap yard. - Tim, what? - Oh, what's yours? - Ah, you know, well, it depends. If we're talking about the Tilla Dragon trip. - Yup. - It'd have to be some kind of LSJ. - Can you buy no LSJ for all in for a brand? - I think you could. - Oh, you could easily could. - Yeah. - Are those days that crappy right now? - You really, you gotta find the right one. - Oh yeah, there have been a few. - There's another one that needs a training or something. - Yeah, there was that one in South Carolina this week. It was blue, my blue, and it actually had a front bumper. - There was only two grand. - Oh wow. - It wouldn't start. - Yeah, it was a-- - I know LNF going for two grand. - $2,000 LSJ. Timing set, clutch, lowering springs, tires. It's about it. - Okay. - That's a pretty solid choice. - That's a pretty solid choice. - I don't know the way it's solid choice. - I wanna hear your choice. You're hyping this up right now. - Late '80s Toyota MR2. - Ooh, okay. - Ooh, okay. - Wait, that's not the SW20, right? No, that's not it. That's the 92. - That's the really boxy one, right? - No, the boxy one. - Yeah. - The boxy one. - You're not a stock. - That's not because when you hold in everybody, nobody would expect it. I pulled in it and I'll say to you, they'd be like, "LSJ, no shit." - Yeah. - See, my thought is mine is Lotus-inspired. That is a Lotus-inspired late '80s car. - But you also have a car that's trying to kill you the entire time. - Maybe. I'll fix it. I mean, obviously you go to the track, you go to the track like once or two and you like try it out. See, MSW, like you don't need a ton of power when it comes to tail of the dragon. - You know more, let's not fall. - It's all about cornering. Like if you can maintain cornering speed, so obviously you get a car and you find a good deal on some used race tires or something, and then you take it to the track and you figure out like, "What does this car need?" - Yep. - There's gonna be something that's a huge red flag. - I got one. Kyle, what's your one? I got one too. - Yeah. - What is your one? I have my idea for one. - This is like a second. Like if you regret your first decision. - Yeah. If I regret my vibe GT. I don't know if they'd be any fun. - But a Chrysler crossfire. - That's way too expensive. - I don't think you can get one for that one. - Do you get a new one? - A non-SRT six one, I bet you could. - I think I thought there was 10 grand laughs. I agree it was like five years ago. I just agree. - I don't know. I figured you find one. - Man, that's so much. - That's pretty cool. - Because you know, it's like the prowess. People think they're worth a bajillion dollars. - Yeah, yeah. - I think they're expensive. - Like when you talk about that, it makes me second guess my decision. (laughing) And start thinking like a base model skier solstice. - Yeah, those could be cheaper. - You could definitely buy them. - Because you don't need power so you don't need the turbo. - Yeah. - And like my black sky is the fastest road course car I've ever driven. - Mine, a last year in Toyota Celica. - Ooh, like GTS? - Like a GTS. - Yeah. - 'Cause that's the car. - Also a two ZZ. - Also a two ZZ. - It's basically a vibe GT. - A better vibe GT. But the reason I say it's 'cause it's a small car. - Yep. - They're cheaper 'cause they're not really desired. They come to auto or manual if you find a manual GT dash S or GTS. That's the two ZZ and the GT's come with a one ZZ. - Yep. - And there's a ton of parts out there for 'em. And it's this weird, undesired sports car, tuner car. - Yeah. - I've always thought they look really cool. - I just love the way they look. - I love, like, you know, we all have those good cars which are kind of guilty about liking. That's mine. - Mine. - I love them. - No, I always like those. - And, like, when I see them done wrong, I'm like, oh, you paint it. You get somewhere else, you get lower it. You put a cool body kit on it. - Like what Gordon said. - Gordon said. - Basically what you've said. - Yeah, it's in Mercedes, so. - Yeah. - No, no, the Celica all track. - Which is basically like-- - No, that's even-- - That's the four wheel drive ones. - 'Cause that's the all wheel drive one with the four S, four-- - 4S GT? - 4S GT, yeah. - Yeah. - It's expensive. - My buddy Tom had an all track Celica. - Yeah. - It was pretty sweet, had full Voltons. - But I would get the four wheel drive two ZZ one and they got a bunch of parts out there like undercover parts for them and they're like, and they handle pretty good. - Yeah. - I can get some-- - I got-- - I get 10 times over gospey, you know. - I also got one other option. - What is it? - It'd be a F body 3800 Camaro with a manual. - Are they pretty cheap? - It'd probably use up all your damn budget so you'd have to make sure it was somewhat put together. - But it's a straight axle. - I'm not saying it's gonna be the best as far as getting you there in home. - Yeah, I would say-- - In a whole other car that you're gonna enjoy. - What, no, both on itself, 'cause think about it. For each individual person, like, who better to have a 300 car than both? - Yeah. - He's gonna know it inside and out, he's gonna be able to do anything he wants to with it. And he can tune in for free. - I think brakes and tires on that. - Yeah. - And it would, it would wheel. - And an exhaust. - The Japanese dudes, they love importing the LS1 ones. They put body kits on when they drift 'em. Like-- - It does have a straight axle. It breaks and tires and it wouldn't be terrible. (laughing) - It'd be pretty terrible. - It'd be bad, but who better to have a straight axle? - It's kinda heavy, it's kinda big, and it's straight axle. I think it would get gapped. (laughing) - Pretty sure. - I think it would get gapped. - You know, Austin in there said Monte Carlo SS, like we know Bo knows how to make that handle. - But those are like eight grand, 'cause those things take their gold. - Well, you know-- - Well, these are too expensive. - You don't need an SS though. Like the base model, I think it matters. - That's what it says. - Yeah, yeah. But, you know, I'm taking that and I'm-- - Okay, okay. - Okay, okay. - Like if you just got a Monte Carlo-- - Yeah. - Like three, four? - It's kind of, no, not a three, fours. - Oh, we gotta get a three, eight one for sure. - Okay. - But like, Austin, what are you talking about? Like an Earnhardt edition SS for under four grand. - It doesn't exist. - That is not like a half-15 grand card that we're gonna do. - Yeah, I had a hand onto that. - Yeah. - You gotta search, man. - I don't think you can buy a rust-free, let's say it is rusty, but like not rotted. - Yeah. - Supercharged 3,800 for less than $4,000. - Yeah, dude. - I don't think so. - I don't think so. - Remember, the price gap has changed, but if you were even getting like a $2,000 grand pre, now every grand pre on a plan is like eight grand. - We could do Spiggalo, like he's kissing up to you right now. - You were getting a Regal GS for grand. - Oh, I bet you could find a Regal GS. Some old lady who just died. - Maybe. - It'd be tough. You'd have to scour. - You'd have to be lucky. - Yeah, I bet you could find one. - Boys. - It had to be a deal. - Hey, William Kiss, you're gonna have to like, you're gonna have to like send an e-mails, man. Like we'll forward him to the powers that he and like maybe. - Trust me, if you guys want more power hours, you guys gotta say something. - Do something, yeah. - Toyota Cressida, is that like JDM, dude? Like where are you? - That's expensive as everything. - Am I goodness, man. - Yeah. - Ryan says 3,800 Camaros are basically free these days. Isn't that transmission that T5 horrible though? Like if you were to turbo it. - Yeah, but I mean, I'm not in this situation. - I have no personal experience with the T5. I think it's been good to a lot of people, but just like the 65 of you, everybody's like they saw. - Yeah. - We're talking about cars for four grand all in. - Yeah, a 2012 LQ is like 15, brother. Oh my god. - It really is. - That's like, yo guys, it's 505. - Yup. - We're past five. - What are we doing this weekend? - I'll start, we have to do it every day. - We have to do it every day. - So, please be patient, we're not here on Monday. - I see it. - We need a month up. - Need a break. - I see the hole right there. - I got the-- - Oh, the strainer. - I had a great plan. I was doing a lot of firsts this weekend, but all my plans, I canceled. - Oh. - Well, I guess I got something for you to do. Monday. - Grettin'. - Grettin'. - You get the sound close. - Oh. - What? - It close. - It close, like days ago. - What close? - The sign is-- - Oh, really? - Yeah. - Sand that. - No, it close. - I bet you could get in. - That's all up, Sam, right? - Dude, I could get you in. - We'll see. - Terrible. - That's Monday, but I'm talking over the weekend. - Yeah, tell me like right now, though, but I'll get you in there. - Oh, the weekend? Weekend, I have no plans. My mom's coming up Sunday, I think, but other than that. - Yep. - Yep. - That's my. - Tim. - I've got some ATSV stuff to do this weekend, probably. My ATSV made 694 wheel today. 694. So, gotta do some more testing on that. - I'm gonna grab that 700. - I'm gonna try to. - I'm gonna try to. And then I got the autocross, bow and eye, and are you in? - No, I'm up, no, come on, man. So, bow and eye, at least, and a couple others. - No, Adam. - Dakota. - Dakota. - Yup. - You guys got five. - Brad and autocross. - I just thrown out that power strolls. Have a valve cover gasket with an electrical plug in 'em. My mind is blown. You can't just wet it. - Yeah, the glow plugs and injectors are integrated into the valve cover gasket. - What in the whistle? - Oh, crazy. - Yeah. - What were you doing this weekend, man? - Like Tim said, great autocross. It's our favorite autocross of the year, besides the fall one, because it's not hot as heck. - Yup. - And then, otherwise... - Got the HHR on Jack stands, man. - It's nice. - Hopefully, I have the cradle on the ground and do some looking at it. Drain the transmission fluid. It looked like the engine oil. It's only six months old, and drain the engine oil, and it looked like coolant, and I just got a lot to figure out right now. (laughing) Sarah needs it on the road and running by snowfall. - Oh! - So we got that one. - That ain't against us. - Boys, that dirty S4 you just said ain't far away. It's about to be September. - Man, I got another HHR you can buy if you want to. - Oh. - But I have to keep that option in my back pocket. - I got a Regal you can buy. - There's no coolant in the oil. - They're not kidding, Tim. It's looking more and more appealing every day. - Even though it's getting real close to the season when I need that Regal. - Cavalier Z24. - No. - That would have been a good one. - No. - Can you find one? - Probably not for Fortran. - No. - It's not completely rusted out. - Yep, nope. - I haven't even seen a Cavalier in a long time ago. - Isn't that crazy? - Yeah, there's a Roddie. - You guys seen a S64 on it. There's one S64 on it. - Yeah, back to your SRT4 thing, those just fell off the map in the last fight. - I still think that they're kind of cool cars. Like the knee on the calipers. - They came back to a straight fight. - Yeah. - Yeah, take back to caliber. - Dude, the caliper is way better. - The caliper SRT4 dude. (laughing) - The caliper SRT4? - It's way better than the end. - It's so cool. You lower it, put some wheels on it. That thing is-- - It's an HHR SS. - It's an HHR. You like HHRs, kind of. - No, I don't. - Yeah, you do. - I'm too tall for an HHR. - Plus they came with a cooler dude. - They didn't come with the cooler. - They didn't come with the cooler. - Maybe if I sell it for an SRT cooler. - And I didn't look out the roof. You sit like a car in a caliber. - So I saw a really done up nice one the other day for sale, like really nice. And I was like, wow. I didn't even know these were still around. - Yeah. - Like you sell-- - They just fell off the map. - For being such a popular car and when they were out, you could not go to any car meet and not see an SRT4. - None of them have transmissions anymore. - Yeah, they blow off. - Yeah. - Is that a limiting factor of those? - Yeah. - The factory third gear just goes, whoop. - Oh, hey, so it's gonna have 35. - Worse. - Yeah. - Like worse, worse. - Oh boy. - What's their upgrade options? - Nothing. That's the problem. - To be fair. - I think people feel them. - Yeah, if you think about it, you really like, we're like different. But you don't see cobalt anymore either. - I see a lot of cobalt. - Yeah, we see a lot of cobalt. - Yeah, we see them 'cause of true. - Like if, like when I-- - When you're driving regular traffic, yeah. - Like if it is stuff, it's very, like, we're bringing around here at ZCP, you see them, but when I go to Tuner Evo or Wedfest, who like, hey, I don't know, you cobalt's still around. - That's very true. - I got that a lot. - That's very true. - We were very cobalted up this week. - Oh yeah. - It shipped a couple, but I was walking through the shop. I was like, full bolt on, big turbo cobalt. Full bolt on, big turbo cobalt. Full bolt on, big turbo cobalt. - Yep, goodness. - Yeah. - That's how I like it, bud. - And by the way, like customers, like we love you, like cobalt mod guys. - Oh yeah. - That is such an underrated car. Like that is such an amazing car, like please stay in it, we wanna stay in it as well. - Yeah guys, and I'm gonna say something from a very personal standpoint, like whether it be an LSH2224, it doesn't matter. Take pride in your vehicles, please. There is not like, just because you bought it for a cheap, doesn't mean you gotta treat it like a cheap car. - Yeah, don't be sloppy mechanics on it. - Don't be sloppy mechanics on it. - Yeah, the whole mod process isn't gonna be easy. - No. - And to do it right, it takes a lot of work. - Keep it clean, where was it? Where was your badge of pride? - Yep. - You have just nothing wrong with it, it's a great car. It's a good economy, sports, you know, compact car. - Yeah. - It is a car that you can have fun with and there's nothing wrong with it. I talked to a guy back on the cobaltense.net days. Right now, he's gonna come back remote to him with us. He has 40K on his LSJ. - Woo! - You're about to be tuned in. - Real soon. - Wow. - 40K. - 40K. - That is, I'm only 30K or 40K ahead of him. But like, holy crap, man. - Dang. - How are you doing? - Going up to irons to my buddy's cottage, lake house mansion thing. It's a pretty cool place. They just finished building it this year. But yeah, we'll be up there. Just hanging out, bringing bonfire and jet skiing. - Is this an invite for all of us? (laughing) Come on. - They're driving one up. I would give them a haircut. - Eight, there we go. - Oh wow, that's a terrible highlight. - All right, everybody. - Oh dude. - That's, that is my highlight. - Thanks for tuning in. We'll catch you in a month for the next easy peep power hour number 170. Let us know what you want to see.