The Intersection
The Intersection 9/5/2024
That did not work, hang on. Are we here? Welcome to the intersection with me already today is Ray Renanti and Charlie Wallace and I thought I'd give you a couple more seconds for the rest of the crew to join us but I thought since there was so much chat offline about the game, the football game even though I know nothing about it other than Taylor Swift wore a tight corset and high heel thigh high boots that is where my knowledge of the situation ends so I will leave it to the expert that actually watched the game to take the conversation from this and I'll start with you Charlie Goof course I love Taylor Swift so that was wonderful and the game couldn't ask for a more exciting game, it came down to the last play of the game so it was a great game. So tell me about that last play, they had a Baltimore's trying to drive down the field for a tie, it was third down to five seconds on the clock and Lamar Jackson is running around back and forth and finally tossed in the end zone, Isaiah likely jumps way up in the air and catches the ball and then it comes down and first they call it a complete pass touchdown with a tie to the game but the replay showed that his foot just barely touched out of bounds by so it was a pre-season game or something? No this is the first NFL game of the year, real time Kansas City Chiefs vs Baltimore Ravens. I had no idea about it with Ray and with Charlie, oh man I got to pay attention, oh my god. Yeah, so try again, everybody else plays on Sundays though except Green Bay and Philadelphia play tomorrow night, so there are real days in Arrow or someplace in South America. Is it starting earlier than normal? It's starting earlier than last year yeah. You see it will start the next week but I guess they're trying to get it all in. Okay, wow Taylor Swift. I used to like it when she's saying country music, I don't like her non-country music. Well that's, they have on Sunday night they'll have the country, they'll have Carrie Underwood singing. She looks the same broadcast team, they don't have on Monday due Thursday night, they don't have Carrie Underwood for some reason. I've never been in all that much of a country fan but then there are always things that I like that are country and I think part of that is growing up in Texas that you're just going to get a certain, and also the big country rock thing that was going on in the 70s and 80s was big, you know? Yeah, and skinner, well I mean the Eagles and there were a bunch of them, the band. The Grateful Dead were kind of country rock when you get right down to it, and we have some more people joining us, to Brian, yeah, well I really like Beyonce's new country album. Yeah, me too, that's good, really good, performer you can do anything. And she had on her album a bunch of the people in country that I like which includes Willie Nelson and Dolly Parton. And I grew up with a thing, I don't know, because the rest of y'all didn't grow up in Texas. No, it's the cotton ijo thing where y'all are. So what? The cotton ijo. The cotton ijo. The cotton ijo. The cotton ijo. I've heard of until I moved to Texas. Okay, so the cotton ijo is a line dance, the science film is a fiddle tune going back about 600 years. So it's considered, it's considered traditional. However, there is a version that came out that I believe asleep at the wheel, which is another one of those, you know, falls on that line between country and rock that the tradition in the dance halls, when I was growing up, in every school dance, this is the same thing. This always happened. Now at least at the cotton ijo and the shot is this line dance, which you can also do with a partner with all kinds of spins and things, but the line dance primarily, that people go arm in arm and dance around the circle and there's a backup step in the chorus where the DJ will yell something like, now would you say, and everybody yells, "Bull shit." Yeah. You stepped in what, "Bull shit." And so in that period of time back in 2013, 2014, when I was working on a musical about the fight over abortion rights in Texas, the long before 2022, you know, this was the Wendy Davis filibuster, I envisioned the debate in the house and in the Senate would be done to the tune of the cotton ijo, and you would have things like characters saying what she say, and then there would be signs going up around so everyone would know to shout, "Bull shit." Now I had in this play, as one of the characters, the ghost of Molly Eivens, talking to the ghost of Anne Richards, sort of observing the whole thing, while Molly Eivens famously had a dog named shit. So at some point during this whole thing, with the cotton ijo playing, you would hear Molly calling out to her dog, so that all of us, the audience, could yell back at the stage, shit, bull shit, but, you know, that's neither here nor there, so we were talking about the football game, now that Brian and Wayne have joined us, since everyone knows more about football than me, I was like, it Charlie took the lead on it, at a rate apparently like me, you know, we're in the entertainment and nerdy part of the world and don't speak good ball, I do enjoy football, I just didn't realize the season has started, oh okay, well Brian and Wayne, I will give you all a chance, Brian, you first, your ear flops on the game. I know, getting the gears back into football season, I like football, and it was an exciting ending of that game, but there were some injuries too, I always hated when they got injured, so who got injured? The very end, the guy who tried to catch the winning, you know, he would just come back in the game to make that last play, but he had gotten injured on a previous play. Right, and he felt down, there's no more padding, it's all hard to submit or something. Yeah, yeah. And there are a couple of defensive people that got hurt in the fourth quarter that hopefully they'll be okay, but it didn't come back in game. Yeah, well, one thing I do know about football that has changed, and we're all over the world enough to remember, they used to have pileups where, like, once the ball hit the ground, everybody and their brother piled on top. They had one at that, and it thought there was a fumble of, I think it was in third quarter, and everybody and their brother was jumping all over, and then, they finally got hurt. And luckily, nobody got hurt on that play, 250 pound guys bouncing off of each other. Wow. So, Wayne, your thoughts? I didn't watch that game, I can't stand the Chiefs. Yeah, that's what Diana was saying, yeah. So I don't watch him, right? Why don't you like the Chiefs? I can't stand their quarter back, he just bugs me, yeah, so. Jesus, Jason! No, he's not a cowboy. I root for any team that's playing them. You know, they used to say, you know, Texas's favorite team is the Longhorns and any team playing Notre Dame. We used to hate Longhorns when they, I hate that Notre Dame when they played the Longhorns, yeah. And here comes Alan. Alright, Alan, we're talking about the football game, even though I know nothing about it. Alan doesn't care about football either. Alan doesn't care about football, okay? So Brian and Charlie Washington, and they gave their opinions, and I think we have totally covered that subject now. Well, can I ask a question of Wayne about that? I just wanted to know why he doesn't like my homes. Alright, I just can't stand that guy, I don't know, he's a personality. I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I just don't care for him. Just something about him. Oh, okay. That's a nice guy. I think he said, tell him I ask hair bands that he wears, or anything like that. Well, you think about Tom Brayden? I didn't care for him either. I think it might be something about it, because it looks like Kansas City Chiefs got to be this decade's New England in Patriots, when they were winning the Super Bowl, all those two. Yeah, definitely be, maybe be down. The Chiefs are won in the last two, and three is the last four. And they started off with gangbusters tonight. I turned it on just, I was on between Pluto and YouTube, and I tuned NBC, I think it was on, and apparently they were still checking some play, then I saw the referee come on and say it's incomplete, out of bounds, so then I waited for a replay, and I saw what it was, and I said, "Okay, good, glad I didn't bother watching it." And he had signaled, the coach on the Ravens signaled, that if that had been a complete pass and a stand, then he would go for two, rather than kicking a tying extra point, so he'd be going to lose on the final play. He actually did touch the white line when he came down, so he had to be incomplete. Where's Mahomes from? I can't remember. He met the Texas Tech in love with King of Texas, so I don't know where he's from originally. I remember seeing some high school footage, but I can't remember where it was. Let me know when the show starts. This is the show. This is the show, yeah. When the show is. When the show is. That's right. Well, I decided since you were talking so much offline about football, that I let the first 15 minutes or so, and now we've reached our 15 minute mark, would be about football, which I know nothing about, so I opened it up to the folks that did, so we have dedicated enough time to- I'm sorry to hear about Alex, wow. Yeah, so what exactly happened to Alex? He felt it. He said he felt, and his face was all bruised and bloodied and so it looked like. Yeah, it's pictured. Wow. Yeah, it's pictured on Facebook. Yeah. Wow. Tony, Tony, let me know. Tony, let me know. I went on my family Facebook, and I can look up Alex's stuff without being a Facebook friend, and I saw the pictures and the stuff, so I sent him a private get-well soon. Yeah, I was supposed to, I'm firing tonight, but we got rained out here, so- Did he fall? I'll set to watch the ramble. Did he fall in the apartment, or was he outside? He didn't say I'm in Facebook, but he's got big gashness for me. Yeah, I'm here, and I was on the chint, and I was like, what did he do, hit the ground and roll? What did he hit, yeah? Man. He's probably the Florida's bathroom, that stuff. Well, you know, he's got that really nice courtyard in his apartment complex. If you've ever seen Emily and Paris, it is shot in Alex's apartment complex. I think Alex's apartment. Yeah. Yeah, but it's just like it, I like it. You know what else is out there? It's one of those old Parisian types of buildings. Yeah. Right, and that's why they're treated there. Yeah. Yeah. But New Jack City was also shot in his apartment complex. Yeah. And New Jack City was actually, part of it was actually filmed in his apartment. In his apartment, yeah. Yeah. Isn't that- And so was a John Holmes movie, but that's another story. Can we go back to football? Yeah. Anyway, I hope he's okay. He didn't look for a, yeah, okay, look at the fix. Wow. He really does need that cane that you sent him. He must, he must what? He must really need that cane that you sent him. I guess I was thinking to send him a walker next. Wow. I mean, I'm serious. I mean, just- I can't imagine how he could have all those bruises and stuff falling in the apartment. He had to have fallen out of the apartment. I'm thinking it sounds like it happened in the courtyard, I would think. You know, there's all those- There's all kind of concrete fixtures and things, you know, flower beds and fountains and things that are in that apartment complex. So I imagine that's where it happened, his face is all stepped up. Yeah, but it just been outside somewhere. Outside. Yeah, I never hear him talking about going into the courtyard, so, but he goes on walks with Marjorie and he gets unsteady, so- They go to Central Park and- Yeah, he could have been on a sentence. If you've ever been to New York, you'll see, you know, sidewalks and disarray there. Wow. It happened to my other ones, just like that she was walking and her face just went smack on the, you know, just bang, bang, bang, but, you know, it just went exactly like Alex. You know, they- I hope he's getting my roommate. My roommate didn't take the step, the last step up on the door. He grabbed the home of the door knob to put the key in it and slipped off the step and face planted onto the door. And I thought, boy, I thought you were coming home and I, you know, I opened the door and used there on his knees. I can't get up. That's what happened. I felt. The worst thing you can do when you get older is break a hip. Yeah. If you want to bring your face and get a concussion. So you get it, you break your hip, sometimes it just doesn't heal and you're done for it. Yeah. And another, she broke her hip and they fixed it with a couple of pins, but she was already descending into dementia and that just accelerated the process so much faster. We had to be there. We had to have somebody on watch in her room at 24/7 because even, you know, with the alarms that they have on the bed and things like that, you know, and nurses not far away. Even with the pin in the hip, that's not what it is. We wanted somebody in there. Right. Well, and there's a certain period of time where you're not supposed to put any weight on it. Yeah. So. It's not just. And with the dementia, she doesn't, she's not going to remember when she wakes up that she can't put any weight on her hip. So. We had to be there awake at the room at all times. We took three shifts. So I had the day shift. David had the evening shift and Colin had the nighttime shift so that we would have someone in the room with her all of the time. Wow. Well. Very interesting. Governor Walgave, an interesting speech, and I've got some highlight clips here from, I'm pulling this from a video that I started watching from the, from Ben, my solids, it's my test. And I'm going to share that with y'all right now. The thing about this show is I don't have to watch the news when the show's on. And I'll just put stuff here. Yeah. Yeah. I did see this that Donald Trump was, was in Pennsylvania. Was he not last night? Harrisburg. Here's, there's a saying in politics, if you're explaining, you're losing, but I want to say this, I didn't watch part of it last night, 11 times, 11 times Donald Trump explained to us that he wasn't weird. Okay. Okay. I didn't say it. I didn't say it. I think, I think we might be getting under the skin there a little bit, but look, when I said that, I, this isn't about name calling or thing. I was pointing out it, it, it, it's weird to be obsessed with people's personal lives. It's weird to be obsessed with people's healthcare choices. It, it, it's weird to continue to talk about sharps and batteries and boats and things like that. Then governor. Oh, so what was the weird side weird because enough of the people behind him had dark sunglasses on. I just assumed it was an outdoor rally. Yeah. Well, the whole weird things only going to go so far, they're going to have to find something else. I mean, the weird is going to have, weird is going to have its day. I mean, we've only got a few weeks left. It's clearly good. It's just a weird thing to campaign on weirdness, but weird, I know, I know, I know, I know. I mean, come on. Did you see Vance in the coffee shop? Yeah. Oh, I know. The donut thing? Yeah. They're like, whatever. I'm vice president. I'm vice presidential candidates. Yeah. Okay. You want. What do you want? What? It's a dance. Is he from Ohio? He's got a bag. Oh, yeah. It's a shame to be from Ohio. Too bad the audience can't see. Yeah. Okay. All right. So Vance said something to the effect of gun violence. It is a fact of life. It's way, we don't have to like it, but we have to live with it. What a freaking idiot. You know, the thing is, unfortunately, in this country, it's probably true. I don't agree. We have the assault weapons made for a whole bunch of years, and it helped. And I don't know. I don't think it's going to live with it. Yeah. Who? Other countries. Well, it's not that country. We can have amendments to the Constitution. We've had all kinds of them. Yeah. We can change it. It's because of the NRA and the other lobbies. Yeah. Yeah. It's because they pack back Republicans. I know. And so Republicans won't do anything about it. No longer should we have to put up with this. I'm tired of having the argument. We had on Monday, sixth mass shootings. You know how many they had in most countries of the world last year? Zero. None. None. You know, a high number is two for most countries. Countries. A terrible year when they have one. Yeah. That's a terrible year. But they have one. We have six on Monday. On Monday. That's not counting the ones that we have on Wednesday. Yeah. And you know what, Amy? The thing is, the mass shootings are just the tip of the iceberg. You know how many kids get killed at home with handguns? I can tell you a single day. Yeah. The number one cause of death for minors in this country is gun shot. Yeah. Being shot with a gun. And they're home usually. Yeah. Most of the time it's in their home. They get a hold of their mom or dad's gun. This is lying around. Well, we had a charged mom and dad with criminal negligence if that happened. Father, I think they do. The father gave the son is an AR-15 for Christmas, you know, and he just got charged with involuntary murder. So they're throwing the book at him too, which is good. They did it recently with another father. Yeah. There was another couple that did that. Yeah. They're giving their kids, the teenage kid a gun, an AR-15 for birthday. Yeah. Yeah. They arrested the dad in the winder shooting because he gave his 14-year-old an AR-15 for Christmas. A 14-year-old. Yeah. And that's date is illegal for a 14-year-old to own an AR-15 or whatever. I don't know. In Georgia, it's not illegal for a 14-year-old to own an AR-15. Okay. So they can even go out and buy one themselves. Okay. Can they get a 14-year-old buy one? Are you sure about that? I'm sure about that. They just changed that law last year. I know it's if anybody can open carry without anybody can concealed carry without a license. Yeah. You don't have to have a license at all in Georgia anymore. Just like Texas. Just like Texas. Well, I pulled up the gun violence archive page, which I shouldn't have a shortcut to folks. It shouldn't be necessary for me to keep pulling this motherfucker up. But let's just look at year to date gun violence, homicide, murder, and unintentional and death by gun. DGEU, well, I'm not sure what DGEU stands for, 11,625 dead. For all people in the United States? That's everyone? That's year to date in the United States. Total number of injuries from gun violence, 22,387. Number of mass shootings, that's four or more people shot. Three or four. Three or eighty-five, right. Jesus. Number of mass murders, that means four or more dead, 23. A number of children aged 0 to 11 killed, 173 injured, 395. Teenagers, 12 to 17, 800 and three killed, 2,200. And the injuries, the injuries are terrible too because a lot of those are life altering things. Yeah. Permanent injuries. If you look at, look at the map, look at the Midwest going east and the south, that area. Look at the Bay Area. The Bay Area doesn't have mass shootings very often, right? Well, I'm looking at, I see a lot of already in the Bay Area. Oh, well, I'm just saying I see a lot of orange in the Bay Area, that's all I see. Yeah, this is just, this is gun violence. Right. It isn't mass shooting, it's gun violence, which is everywhere, but, well, I don't know, I wouldn't, I don't know, you're, you're fixated on this. I mean, I am too, but I see that there's a ton of south, a ton of the east, and I help. Oh, Amy has got this bookmark, I don't have anything like that bookmark. I have a bookmark because I hate keep having to talk about it because we keep having mass shootings. Yeah. Okay. Well, I mean, it shouldn't be necessary for me to bookmark it because seeing it once should have been enough, it, it, but I, I go to it every time we have another mass shooting. Well, I'm glad that you do because you're a voice that goes out on the air and you're trying to speak against it. So maybe if more people did that, maybe something would change. Right. Uh, I just, it, it makes me crazy that, that, that this is still a thing. Great. It's not Ray, Brian, you said they charge the kid with what they charge the father with a murder, involuntary murder, man's letter, and then, but the kid is being tried as a, as an adult, as a 14, a murder. All right. Colin, Colin Gray. Let me answer. Colin Gray, 54 is facing four charges of involuntary manslaughter, two counts of second degree murder, and eight of cruelty to children. Yeah. Good. Um, authorities have charged Colt Gray, that's the son, the 14 year old, with four counts of murder and said they plan to prosecute him as an adult. Which means they may or may not be up to the judge. Um, so it, I mean, I've seen people saying, well, he shouldn't be prosecuted as adults. He's only 14, but I'm sorry, you know, that Alan, you and I are Jewish. When you turn 13, it doesn't mean you're old enough to get married. What it does mean is that you're old enough to be responsible for your own actions. Yeah. And so he was old enough to be responsible for his own action and old enough to know that if you take an AR 15 into a school and start shooting people, guess what? You're going to kill them. And guess what? The likelihood either you'll be killed or you'll go to jail. Yeah. But you're making a lot of assumptions. You don't know the mental state of this kid. I'm just going to say that, right? I don't care what his mouth say. Yes. He kind of matters because he could, he could be completely out of it. You don't know. I mean, the problem is, is that he had an AR 15 so easily. That's the problem. But it's in the state of Georgia, he can have it. And that's all. I know. That's the problem. But the dad gave him a gun even after he had all these questionable posts online about killing his fellow students. Yeah. He had already a year ago, they had been the, I think the FBI came and visited the home because there were all these online posts about shooting up a school. Yeah. And he denied it and there wasn't enough evidence so they kind of let it go, you know. But, but you know, it could have been worse. He was in an algebra one class, first day, really the first full day of school. I mean it out. He left the classroom, he came back and he said, let me in and he said, oh, no. Yeah. They saw the gun and all the doors automatically locked when they shut. So that saved, it could have been way worse. Yeah. Yeah. It could have. He might have killed 30 people who knows. How can a kid that age afford that much ammo? Paper house. Your dad bought a phone. It did. It's probably got the ammo. Yeah. So I just wanted to correct what you had said, Brian, you said involuntary murder, murder by itself is voluntary. So, it's changed, voluntary now, right now, no problem. Yeah. Well, in California, if you let a minor under the age of 18, not 14, get your, get their hands on a handgun or a rifle or anything you own in California, you're going to be held liable to as a parent. So even if you didn't buy them a gun, California, you have to be, you have to be 18 to own or shoot a rifle or a shotgun and one to own or shoot a pistol. So, and if a kid goes in to the parents room and finds a gun and takes it to school or takes it out and kills somebody with it, they're going to be, the parents are going to be charged to in California. So it's, you know, at least it's not 14 here. Yeah. Yeah. They can punish the hell out of this kid. He's 14. It's too young. But you know what? It's not going to solve the problem. The problem is. The guns. Yeah. I mean, we, whatever they do to this kid, whatever, his life is over anyway. Yeah. The, I would say something about the guns. You know, it's definitely about the guns, but there's also, our culture is so toxic now that that's, this is what's happening, you know. Thank you. I'm from it is. And then the guns on top of it, it says, you know, we're so, there's such a sickness in our soul of America. It's just really. All this anger. Yeah. All this anger and, you know, they should almost just shut down high schools and just do small home pods and just, you know, do it safer or something. I hate to say that, but certain kids, certain kids, it's not happening at private schools if it was happening at private school, they do something about the guns. Yeah. No. Because the people with money aren't getting shot up in, you know, why, why, why, why did the, why is it the lower income and moderate income? We don't know. It's just doing it. If that is, are you sure that's the truth? Yeah. Well, we don't, we don't, we don't know the information of that, but it is happening in private schools, synagogues and churches that private schools, and they're going in and killing people. So they're killing people in synagogues and churches and they're killing people in theaters and they're killing people at Walmart and at the post office and it, you know, at the grocery store, it's happening on the freeway. It's happening everywhere. So the problem is the guns. They don't have this problem in Australia. Right. They don't have this problem in, you know, because they had one mass shooting and they had that was that. And they had one in New Zealand a few years ago and it was like, yeah, I'm like, yeah, immediately within two weeks, right, and change the law. The thing is, is none of those countries, and I'm not defending this, but none of those countries have the Second Amendment. And so the Second Amendment applies to a lot of people. And I would say probably 99% of the people in this country that legally own a firearm will never use it to crime. So what? So what? One percent. That one percent. For a lot of people. Also guns are stolen. Right. That one percent. Right. That one percent is a big number because it involves a lot of guns. It's a lot. People break the houses. And if you don't have your gun locked in the safe, chances are that gun's going to walk out of the house with the burglar. That's right. Exactly. That happens so much. The arms are stolen from houses, and then used in crimes. Right. Yep. You're right. And you know, I'm looking at your gun violence archive. So 2014, there were 12,356 total number of deaths. And then at 2023, 18,854, and then injuries from 21,000 to 36,000. So it just goes up every single year. 2021 was the worst. Yeah. It actually went down from 21 to 22 to 23. Yeah. So since Biden's been president, it's been going down. Right. Yeah. And it's been in the news a lot since '99, with Columbine. Oh, yeah. It's been on. It was just almost none. I would love to see this table going back way further. I bet it's-- I thought Columbine was earlier than that. '99. I know, because I was under some job. Yeah. I've seen me remember being '90s. Maybe that was when Michael Moore made this movie. We'll see. Wasn't it like '91 or '90s? We'll see. Check it. It should be '99. Yeah. April 20th, 1999. I don't know why I thought it was-- '99. Made it another that years ago. Anyway. I thought I was still married to my ex-husband. I don't know why. I guess because my ex-husband had so many guns that I associate, you know, I hear him making excuses for it in my head, I guess, is what's-- you know, because by then I was already married to David and living in Denton County. Yeah. Then, yeah. It's hard for me to believe that kids now, the things that Republicans and like these moms for liberty freaks are worried about is that there might be some dirty books in the library and there might be trans people going, you know, there might be a trans girl going to the bathroom with other girls, other cis girls. And they go in the stalls, who cares? Right. When they go in the bathroom, we go in the stall close the door. When we're done, we come out. And we may stand at the mirror, you know, when I was in high school, we smoked in there. Because you weren't supposed to. We talked about other people in there, but when it comes to going to the bathroom, we go in the stall, we do our business, we come out. That's it. And we don't stand next to each other, look at each other while we're doing it. There's someone, Mike, there might be a glimpse, a small glimpse of a shlong through the crack in the door, which would damage someone for life. But, but yeah, so, so we're going to worry about that shit, that ridiculous, stupid shit, but having four fans, we do something about the fucking guns that our kids are having to have. I bet you, nobody on this panel ever participated in an active shooter drill when you were in school. No. That wasn't a thing. Don't get covered by using your box. Yeah. We got it. We got it. We did a dug and cover. Yeah. That scared the shit out of me to the missile crisis. Yeah. I never participated in an active shooter scenario in school, but after school, it part of my job. Yeah. And that was to repel active shooters, but. Were you in high school? That's what I just said. Never in school. Okay. Not completely out of school before I got my job in law enforcement, that was 21. And then even early on, there was no such thing as an active shooter in the 80s, it wasn't something 90s where they started training, so. Yeah. Exactly. You know, but, but we got to stop these, these, these states in the south that allow kids to own firearms, you know, California has some real strict gun laws. It's ran by Democrats in the state. And those gun laws help slow down the number of guns that kids can get a hold of. Yeah. It doesn't alleviate it. And by any means, we do have mass shootings here in California. I'm surprised we haven't had one in the Bay Area recently or anything, but. Um, the problem is you can buy a gun in Arizona or New Mexico and bring it into California. Yeah. I mean, that's the problem with Illinois is that they go over to Indiana and get it. Most of the, most of the Indiana, the Illinois shooting shootings happen between gangs and drug, drug people and most of the people that died due to murder. That happens. All right. So the most recent California mass shooting was to layer T U. L. A. R. T. L. R. T. L. Right. Yeah. Um, for people injured, nobody did. That was August 29th. Oh, we had one in love is Texas. Uh, we were talking more like schools and stuff versus somebody that does the shooting outside of school. Yeah. And they're not doing it because they're, you know, they're doing it. It's probably related to drugs or, or, uh, or gangs in California. Most of them. Oakland had one on the 17th to dead, two injured. Okay. And let's see here. I wouldn't call that a mass shooting. I'd call that a double, double hump side. Well, it, four people injured, four people shot is what's required for it to be considered mass. Okay. So the first one, nobody was dead that we're just injured. Yeah. But let's go to, let's go to Texas or Kansas or, or, or Missouri or something where it's almost every day of occurrence where they have, you know, that. And so California has got strict gun laws and it helps keep guns out of the wrong hands. You know, it isn't perfect, you know, and, uh, but we have, I think, I think as large as the state is, we have a lot less violence per capita, you know, you know, we're involved shooting it up a school or something like that per capita than most of the country. So, um, there's a pretty even spread on the first page. So this goes from September 4th through the 22nd of August. And you've got, let's see, Georgia, Illinois, New York, Washington, I assume that state, Alabama, Alabama, Tennessee, Ohio, Ohio, Delaware, Hawaii, uh, Minnesota, Ohio, California, Pennsylvania, New York, New York, Texas, South Dakota, Georgia, Alabama, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Texas, Wisconsin. So you name California twice. People, you know that the Republicans love to say gun, gun, uh, you know, these gun laws don't work. Yes, they do. California is proof. Yeah. I mean, they have, they have, they have the 10 round magazine hand gun law was first enacted in California by a democratic, uh, governor, you know, and now states around the country adopted them. Now they're pulling back, you know, and in California, the 18 and 21 laws. The other thing they have is they call it a cooling off period, but it's a 10 day waiting period. When you buy a gun in California, you can pick it up 10 days from the day to purchase. You can not take it with you in a gun store now privately. You're not supposed to sell a gun with somebody without registering it. There's private gun sales all the time, and you can't really stop that, but, uh, you know, but we don't have mass murders here very often, you know, I guess, I guess, agree that the strict gun laws that we have here help, especially the size of California is California has always been conscientious about this. I remember when I was a kid, I let, I come from a family that hunted and, uh, I started hunting when I was nine, but I had to go take a pretty extensive, uh, safety course from the NRA of all organizations before they were political and, uh, just to get a license. And then also, like the shock, uh, if you go hunting with a shotgun here, you can only have three shells that has to, they, they block the rest of it. You can't put like all seven of them in there. Um, and all the shotguns are in the, in California are sold that way, um, for safety reasons. Well, I don't know, unless it's a double barrel or a single shot, I don't know, most pump shotguns hold six to nine rounds. So that's what I said. That's what I said. I mean, yeah, I sent seven. I mean, a lot of them. Yeah, you said, but three. All right. No, they limit it to three. Oh, okay. Well, I put a plug in all the shotguns. One thing you probably have over me is I've never hunted, so well, I'm all I'm trying to say is they California's been, it's been in the, it's been in the, the, the culture of California legislature to always think about gun safety. Yeah. Yeah. With, with all your safety measures, California still had five mass murders this year. Okay. Okay. Okay. I pulled up the 25 mass murders this year, three in Alabama, two of those in Birmingham one in Florida, Florida, if it were D Y C California, as I said, had one, two, three, four, five Atlanta, Reed Lee, Huntington Park, King City, and Alameda of Florida have one, Georgia had two Illinois had one, two, three, four, Joliet, Kentucky, Tinley Park and Forest Park, Kentucky had one, Nevada had one, New York had one, North Carolina one, Amy, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, and then one in Texas. Amy, don't you have to look at total deaths versus population though, to actually get a picture of how, how well gun safety's working, not just number of mass shootings, because the mass shootings is actually dropping the bucket. Most, most shootings that are done in California are gangs or drug, drug things. Yeah. In California, and we have strict gun laws here. Some of the strictest in the country for a state. Now Chicago has really strict gun laws, but it doesn't seem to affect them because you get gun, you get, you know, drug dealer or a gang member after each other. We got, we had gangs here too. I mean Texas, Texas has lots of people and lots of guns and, and multiple, we have more major cities in Texas than y'all have in California. You know, you've got basically the, the Bay Area and LA area, right? So we've got Dallas Fort Worth, we've got Houston, we've got El Paso, we've got San Antonio Austin, you know, so we have more places for those things to happen. But there's only one mass murder in Texas. Yeah, your gun laws and our gun laws are way different. So yeah, ours, ours are terrible. Right. Some of the worst. Our guns are, you can have a gun. No background check, no waiting period, no nothing, just go, want a gun, just go buy one. Yeah. And go shoot it up and go buy your ammunition at the grocery store. Yeah. From a vending machine. The grocery store now, yeah, but yeah, before you go bragging on California, it's not looking that good. I'm just curious as to what the total number of shootings are per capita, right? Yeah. But I would be interesting to know, I was noticing if you're talking about Alabama, Alabama has one tenth, the population of California, but yeah, what is it? Three, three, three versus five for California and in Birmingham, Alabama on July 13th, four dead, ten injured. Yeah, that appears to be the worst mass shooting mass murder. I'll tell you something, the other countries of outlawed to a certain extent, it's not all of them, but some of them are the video games that kids can play where they're very realistic where they get to shoot other people. And so when they're younger, they get to shoot people in these games. We didn't have them when we were kids, Ray, you and I, but I think those videos contribute to younger kids using guns thinking, okay, I don't like this guy, I'm going to kill him and maybe I'll play the thing. Yeah, I disagree because you got, you have exactly the same video games in Great Britain and Japan. Yeah. They don't have access to the same video games, but they don't have the access to guns we have. Exactly. That's the point. It's not the video games, it's the guns. And I think also, like, so you're always going to have kids who are more susceptible to transferring their love of the game and losing their boundary between real life. And if those kids get a hold of guns, that's when you have a problem. And here's their, and all these shooting, these kids who do all these shootings, apparently most of them really play these games a lot. But my kids play these games, my kids play these games and they're not going to go shooting. Everybody plays the games that's going to shoot people. No, that's why I'm saying it, it all just comes down to the availability of the damn guns. I mean, we had first person shooter games in the 90s, in the early 90s. I knew up in the 70s, we did not have first person shooter. And cowboys and Indians, and none of us grew up to be masked. Yeah, that's right. I grew up in a state with honey, you get a PB gun, you just get an AR when you're 14. You know, my brother-in-law was a hunter, but he, you know what? He didn't think anybody needed a handgun. He didn't understand. He didn't have a handgun. He didn't need a handgun. He wouldn't be able to shoot a, shoot a deer with a handgun. Yeah, you can't. And he certainly wasn't going to go shoot a gun with, shoot a deer with an AR-15. No, they say they, they use it for hunting, but they're lying. They don't. No. They don't. You're not getting it. You're certainly not going to shoot a squirrel with it, or a quail, or a duck. It's a great weapon for shooting human beings. No, no, it's totally inefficient for hunting. Yeah. Yeah. It's a small caliber, and it's not going to do much damage unless you get like a brain shot into a deer or something like that. That's not easy. You have to get pretty close. I mean, you want like a 30, 30, or a 30? Pretty close I wouldn't buy a, you know, an AR round is a, basically a 22 bullet with a rifle cartridge. You could be 200 yards away with a scope and kill something to person. So, you don't have to be really close with an AR. With a handgun, that's true. Yeah. Although a handgun ammo tends to go a long ways, if it doesn't hit anything. A 22, a 22 caliber, will, will, can go up to a mile before it falls out of the sky or hit somebody or something. So. I can remember being in, you know, in summer camp and taking rifle re, and we, you know, we shot 22 bolt action rifles. They're fun. I used to shoot target with 22 all the time. It was a blast. I had on Pacifica before when there was nobody out there. I used to go with my grandfather's, but now you, it's all houses, but there was nothing. When I met David, I was living in Lufkin, I was working in Die Ball. So imagine Lufkin about 30 to 35,000 is the big city. Die Ball is like a stoplight and that's it, you know, but, but it had Temple Inland, which was a big building products company and it had, um, oh, what, what was the, the, the made glue and there was, there was a grocery store chain out of there and one other chain that, that, that made manufactured glue products, but mostly and they kept the town running. The, the newspaper in this little town, during these deer season, every page was covered with some kid and their dad and their dear and duck hunting season with their duck and fishing season with their fish. So that was, it was just, it was, I'm, I'm being literal here. That was the whole newspaper does nothing but pictures of people with their deer. So I, I've, I've lived around all this kind of, you know, guns, but the, the sad thing is I can remember somebody telling me, because right outside of Omaha was a sundown town, kind of well known, Vider, Texas. And I can remember somebody from Vider talking about what fun they had going around shooting at black people on the street, it, it, me capping them. Yeah, shooting them in the knees. Jesus. Yeah. So, no surprise that in 2008, when this person was on an email thread chain, they were showing the most absolutely racist pictures and stuff about Barack Obama and I. Well, well, that's where I grew up and maybe where Ray grew up, racism was not as big a thing as it is in the south. No. It's sweet. Huh? No, it wasn't. You're right. You know, and probably where Brian grew up too, in, in that area, Ray, you didn't see a lot of racism, but it was, it was fairly mild. It was, it was certainly there. Yeah. And I had friends that were Asian Latino and black and I know that they got a raft, but I got, I, I don't anymore ever, but I got a raft for just for being Italian. I got called names all the time. But you know what? It's, I don't, I didn't really bother me that much. No, but, but it was mild and now it's not, it's not much around here. Really? Huh? You don't see a lot of, you know, where I go to San Francisco, like I do in the weekends after I deal with my mother or whatever, I don't, I don't hear racist comments from people very often. No. You know? No, we're lucky here. It's free. And of course, it's, it's sort of systemic in that like, yeah, this is also why the average house in the Bay Area is up two million dollars. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, even the houses and places like East Palo Alto that are, you know, economically depressed, the houses are over a million dollars. They just stuck a bunch of people in there, there's like 10, 11 people in a four person house. Well, this is not the, the show I thought we were going to have, but we've run out of time already. We really only spent 50 and I thought we would cover a lot more subjects, but we did start talking about guns and violence and I mean, and never really get you up and running. Yeah, it does because it keeps happening. I think all of us on the show gets up and running about it. Yeah. I've seen what guns can do to people firsthand right next to the person that have been shot. Not a lot of the, the, I'm sure the other is you that haven't been in the military. I wasn't in the military, but we can talk about this in the after show. Yeah. We're out of time. So I want to thank you all for joining me this evening and I hope you had a good time of hope if you're listening home, you found it worth your time to listen to. That's all we have time for. 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