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Weighing in on Draisaitl + LIV vs PGA

Ben Ennis & Brent Gunning kick off The FAN Morning Show with Leon Draisaitl's contract that got signed two days ago. The boys then delve into what it means for the player, the market, Connor McDavid and the Oilers as well as the impact to the Leafs. The morning duo backfills the first hour by discussing their interest in the reported match-up that will see Rory McIlroy & Scottie Scheffler face off against Bryson DeChambeau & Brooks Koepka in a televised match later this year, essentially pitting PGA Tour players versus LIV Golf stars. Is this what golf fans want? They wrap up with your weekly Thursday Canadian Football Report (28:59).

The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliate.

Duration:
50m
Broadcast on:
05 Sep 2024
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Ben Ennis & Brent Gunning kick off The FAN Morning Show with Leon Draisaitl's contract that got signed two days ago. The boys then delve into what it means for the player, the market, Connor McDavid and the Oilers as well as the impact to the Leafs. The morning duo backfills the first hour by discussing their interest in the reported match-up that will see Rory McIlroy & Scottie Scheffler face off against Bryson DeChambeau & Brooks Koepka in a televised match later this year, essentially pitting PGA Tour players versus LIV Golf stars. Is this what golf fans want? They wrap up with your weekly Thursday Canadian Football Report (28:59).

The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliate.

It's going to be a big one. Yeah, we're going to do it. You know what, it's going to be a big one. ♪♪ -♪ Good morning, Joe, 47590, the fan, man at his end ♪ -Bread, got it. -Yeah. Tall guy, wears glasses, loves golf, not 10-me-key. -Yeah, how's it going, buddy? It's been a while. -Doing well. Doing well. I was -- I got to be honest, I was a little jealous. You guys got some news while I was away. You know, I love news, but, yeah, I'm doing well. I don't know. Vacation's always weird for me. Like, I feel like a lot of people come back refreshed, and I certainly feel that way. But it's also, like, God, work has worked when you come back from it, so I'm thrilled to be here. But it's, like, never see the light of day, because now that I've been on the other side of my hand -- -Well, our retirement? -Yeah. It's, like, God, like, get me to that. Like, I love coming in here. I love talking to you. You know that. But it's, like, I never -- -This doesn't sound like it. -No, because I never take vacation. -You know, it would be better, like, not doing that. It's what it sounded like. -You know, it's, like, I never take vacation. And it's, like, I took two of them this summer? -Yeah. -Oh, God. I don't know what's happening to me. You know what you should do? -Mm. -Take vacation. -No. -Yeah, I don't -- -Because it works so hard when you come back. -Yeah. -I suppose -- -Like, not me, because it's, like, I flip on Mike, Yammer, whatever. But, like, in general, speaking, like, it's, like, you get out. There's freedom in the world. And it's, like, God, I should have -- This is the whole -- God, the allegory of the cave, basically. It's, like, now, let me just watch the puppets. I don't want to know what's on the outside out there, because I saw it, and now I'm back in the cave. -Yeah, you're in the cave. Yeah. There's a big world out there. You can enjoy it. I would do that in the summer, for sure. But now it's time to get down to business. This is what Post Labor Day here, okay? -To borrow a term from John Gibbons, it's not cutting time. - sorta, like, well, not like for the Blue Jays, but -- Or for sports, in general, because it used to be in this industry that Labor Day was kind of a point of demarcation. Everybody was back from vacation. It was like, you wouldn't take vacation in September. And we were doing radio. Everybody was in their seats at attention. And then you realize, oh, wait, September is kind of still, like, an extended -- it's an extended part of summer. And, like, I know technically it is, like, all doesn't start until September 21st. But, yeah, like, we're still a little ways away from the start of Leafs camp. Usually we have at least some meaningful baseball being played here right now. It doesn't seem to be the case in the Blue Jays. You know, they lose both games in the Phillies. They hang in there, I guess. And there's good things to take away. But they're four and six in the 10 games since they played the bad teams. So, like, against the good teams, they haven't been good in that they've blown a couple of games, most notably because Chad Greene gave up a couple of three run home runs as his first two blown saves of the season. But, yeah, we don't have the Blue Jays in contention. I mean, there are great playoff races in both the American League and the National League. And, boy, the American League wild card chase is kind of like a turtle race of the finish because the Royals finally snapped their seven game losing streak. The Mets have won seven in a row. But, yeah, it's kind of like, with no Blue Jays contention baseball, there was kind of like a void in the sporting calendar. Thank God we got the return to the NFL tonight. Oh, my God. I was looking at this and, like, it could not have, you know, again, I take vacation. I got it in the big world. And I'm like, OK, what exactly am I walking back to in the sporting calendar? Oh, my God, the start of the NFL season. It could not be any better. I will just use this as a opportunity to continue to bang the drum of the NHL season. Starts too late and ends too late. Why? Why? Why is training camp not getting going right now? And I don't mean, like, you know, fake skates that we see and like, oh, so-and-so is back in town at various NHL markets elsewhere. No, this should be ramp up time. You should be dropping the puck, you know, no later than the last week of September. None of this pre-season games just getting started on the 22nd. NHL schedule way, way, way too late. Every single year I say this. And this is the time of year that it hits us in the face. It hasn't because to your point, we've had J's for so many of the last seasons and not that there won't be compelling J's games here, but it's just for a league that the NHL is and where it finds itself in the North American sporting landscape. And I understand this isn't theory like rushing closer to the start of the NFL season, but you have to kind of try to find your own niche and starting more or less lockstep with the NBA. It just ain't the way to do it either. So get yourself, get yourself ended earlier. Get yourself started earlier. I say it every year. I hope you got enough speculating about Lee Andry's idol in. We went right to the bell, okay? Sam McKee and I, the morning of the extension being announced at six o'clock. So, I mean, it started to break after we were off the air. I thought that's what I thought I was doing my mental math, yeah. In the opening hour of the program that day, we did a lot of the thing that we've done plenty this summer, which is like, oh, I've heard it's so easy to sign Lee on dry side over to this extension. Here we are. It's September now. Excuse me. Where's the extension? Yeah, I'm extremely guilty of this. Yeah. Connor McDavid in town. Yeah. Chopping it up with Austin Matthews, being photographed at a restaurant. Mm. Man, curious. Just makes you think. And then, of course, the news dropping and everybody acting like they're not surprised and they knew it was going to happen all along because I guess that was the reporting basically all summer. It is the highest cap hit ever signed by a National Hockey League player. It will be eclipsed pretty clearly in a year's time by Connor McDavid. But eight times 14, eight. Everybody signed enough for seven or eight. All right. Now, so like it was fun for a moment there to think about the stress that Oilers fans were going through with this contract negotiation. Now, it's entirely shifted because once pen is put to paper by Leon Dreycidal, who obviously in communication with Connor McDavid, despite the fact that during his press conference, he said, Hey, he's his own man. He does his own thing. I do my own thing. Like it's obviously seems Dunzo Dunzo Dunzo Dunzo. Now the focus for me at least is on Austin Matthews being the one of the big five that is not signed up for the max term. You know, this is very telling of how I view the world. But, you know, I suppose I could be a mad at Austin Matthews about this. But these insiders, they lied to me. I was sold a bill of goods. I was told he was a trend center. Other players were watching and I'm going to watch the art Ross or the rock of a chart and every single guy on that list is going to be someplace in the middle of their six, seven, eight year long banger contract. And again, like I'm not going to sit here and turn this into like a ultra living. How could you know you sign up Austin Matthews. Good job by you. But this is the thing that is like it is impossible for me to escape the frustration of this is at every step of the way throughout all the Matthews, the different contracts we've had now with him, we've heard, well, other players are watching, other players are taking note. And if anybody had the opportunity to kind of stick it to their team or say, hey, you want to make Connor unhappy before contract negotiations, it would have been a guy like dry saddle to take is four times 13 flat or four times thirteen five if the price of the brick is going up or whatever it is. Good on the oilers, obviously forgetting it to this good on dry side, for being able to find, you know, long term security in the place he's happiest or whatever. But how, how, how are the Leafs the only team that fall into to this trap? Like I think even Patterson was a six year deal if I'm not if I'm not mistaken, doesn't even have a no move clause, it's just infuriating that you would find yourself in this spot. And again, they put themselves here, the guys put themselves in this position, but it is just a at every turn we heard players are watching, players are taking note, players are seeing what Matthews is doing and he's a legend at the bank and they want to be one to apparently not, apparently not, yeah, apparently not and apparently, you know, winning does cure everything, even living in Edmonton for more than half the year, right? Well, I also think it like kind of helps when you're coming from Germany, like, you know, it's like, you know, maybe you don't have the like, not felt like, like, I just don't think you have it coming from a North American space. I think there is kind of a like, Oh, it's like, it's out there. It's like in Germany, everything's out there. It's like, I got across the pond. I got to cut my ties. I got to go out there. It's the first place that's been kind of home-ish to me in North America. I think it is a little different with that element of it, but no, the winning is the reason why, of course. Yeah, the winning and getting to game seven of a Stanley Cup final and playing alongside the world's best player and understanding that you'll never be the world's best player, especially when you play with the world's best player, like, there's just, you will never enter that conversation, but I guess having the heart trophy and having the season that he had where Conor McDavid was injured maybe puts that in the rear view mirror for Leon Dreyseidel. I mean, are you going to be able to gin up any juice for gin and juice? Are you going to be able to gin up any, any juice within you to talk about the possibility of Conor McDavid not locking in long-term? I mean, maybe, maybe Conor McDavid is the guy that does the short-term awesome Matthews, like, for your extension. Oh, you think, you think the guy who got cyber bullied into giving back 500k a per year on the first super long-term extension that guy, he's going to say, no, no, no, I got to stick it to the Oilers. Also, when he's going to be the last guy to do it and don't get me wrong, they're going to save a little room for him on the cap. But it's not exactly like it's going to be just wide open in terms of what he can do. Obviously, he can ask for his 20%, but they're going to already have Dreyseidel on the books, Bouchard possibly on the books, like they've paid him and the nurses paid. They have the last of the, he's going to be the last one here. I also think, I said this at the time it happened. It's like, if Conor McDavid was leaving, he wasn't leaving to go, you know, like be a yout in Utah or a king, like I know Gretzky did it, but he'd want to follow the exact same path. I always thought if he was going to leave it be to come home for lack of a better term. And I honestly think that that ship sailed the second they slapped the sea on Matthews chest. And it's like, that's fine. You don't hold a sea for somebody. That's why I can't get there with it. Where I will be getting there with it is 20%, 20%, 20%. If this was the baseball, if this was a baseball player, we would talk or not we, because I don't care. But the baseball unit, players union and talk about it as malpractice, if he did not get as much money as he possibly could, that's kind of what Dreyseidel did, like would somebody have given him 15 on the open market? Sure. But he rang the bell in a way no one ever has and no one is in this league right now. And I think that with McDavid, it's just going to be interesting to see does he, how much does he hold them hostage? Does he go the full 20%? I think the eight years is the lock, a locks quite frankly. And the other reason why I had just to bring him back to Dreyseidel, why this is so frustrating is if there was ever a guy with just one, the, and not the Matthews hasn't had his injury scares as well, but, but the injury scares the Dreyseidel has had. And then it'd be in 28 years old, this would have been the perfect time to take your three or four year deal and hit the bell or ring the bell one more time at 32 or 33 years old. And it's just, it's infuriating. But yeah, I don't, I don't know how much I'm going to have it. I'm going to be able to sit there panicking or trying to, you know, foster panic in Euler's land because of McDavid. It's just, it's impossible to see it not playing out where he just takes, you know, maybe it's six years or something, but why wouldn't it be eight? Like why would it be any different? Yeah. I guess let's feel good for Euler's fans. I mean, it's, it's, they've had enough. We've had enough. No, but we've had enough talent drain in this country, not specifically in Toronto, although you know, Tyler Bertuzzi, a, you know, one elsewhere, and I'm still sorry for Nick Foley. No, not giving the Leafs like a sweetheart deal after he played hurt. And then this is not his fault that he was banged up severely signed with Boston right after. Sure. Um, but yeah, that it at least stems the tide in that regard. I mean, this is, you know, that the Calgary flames, obviously with what happened with Matthew Kichak and yeah, late Johnny Goudreau, obviously, like the prime examples of where it can go wrong playing in this country and how it can upend the course of an entire franchise. At least now we have this bright, shiny example. I mean, I guess you can talk about Winnipeg as well with Connor Hellebuk and Mark Shifley and retaining those guys and overpaying for those guys, but not that is so kind to Mark Shifley. Yeah. Just saying like, just like I'm going to leave it there, but God, that's the nicest thing anyone's ever said about Mark Shifley is like looping him in with Conor McDavidley on dry settle and Connor. Well, okay. No, you're right though. It's, it's on the scale, like it's a completely different part of the scale, but it's the same thing that happened there. Yeah. Can we at least put a pain in that narrative now? No, Conor McDavid's there. If Conor McDavid wasn't playing for the Oilers, they would have been playing in a cup final and I don't know that we're doing this with dry settle. Maybe we are. Maybe Leon dry settle. Like I said, like Edmonton seems just as far away as Toronto or California or whatever any of these places from what he thinks of home is. So maybe he signs up, but I think it's just hard to draw that exact line because McDavid's there. And Connor, we see this in all sports. You're going to see this. I imagine in Chicago with the next Connor with Conor Medard where guys go, yeah, okay. And not the people haven't like, like playing in Chicago for, you know, a while there. And it's obviously a, you know, a big metropolis and, you know, not a destination people necessarily run from, but this is what happens when you have one of those guys and it's also not one of it is the guy in Connor McDavid. So I, I, you're right to point it out. It's great that we don't see Leon dry side all going, God, can you put another team in Florida? I don't want to be a Panther. I don't want to be a bolt. But can you add just another team down there for me to play? You're right. That's great to see. And you're right to point it out. But I also think it's such a one of one for a team that one is coming off an appearance in a cup final game seven of said cup final and doing it alongside the greatest player that will play so long as Leon dry side was in the NHL. Yeah, it's rough. I mean, that, that is a rough narrative. If, you know, the Oilers offer you 14 per over eight and you say thanks, but no thanks because what you want the 15 and you, you want to be the face of a franchise, you want to carve out your own niche. You're, you're not as concerned about winning as obviously Lee on dry side all is. And yeah, I think he makes the decision that a lot of people across the NHL would have made. Yeah, I think he does too. I think also the idea of not wanting to be the, like the face of the team, we had a lot of those conversations about dry side on how much would that weigh into it? I think he's in the exact perfect spot. Like how much fun do we have what three, four times a season with pissy Leon and he's, you know, complaining about some quite, and I love it. Like I think that's a great attitude for him to have is kind of part of it. But if he is the number one, not de facto, but the man on the team wearing the sea, all that stuff carries a different weight, quite frankly, and hey, you perform. We don't have questions about any of this, but I think that's the other thing with dry side of is, you know, we all kind of paint the rosiest version of how athlete or how we think athletes think and I think dry settles in a perfect situation where he gets a ton of credit, maybe 2% less than he would if it was Austin Matthews that was the number one guy on the team as opposed to McDavid, but still gets a ton of credit. And I think he gets to be that kind of more raw emotional guy and it's not the, hey, you're the captain of the team. You got to keep it even. It's great. Awesome. You're one of the A's. We love that. We love that you're angry. We love that you're sniping at maths and we love that you're, you know, upset about the way some question was worded. Honestly, I think the, the heart trophy season for Lee on dry side all helps it look quite a massive. Yeah. That he has the proof of concept. Oh, okay. You think there's a one man team and I don't think anybody thinks it's a one man team, but yeah, I can also be my best self without that guy. I'm not, you know, no offense to Zach Hyman, like I'm, I'm not a pure Connor McDavid creation. Right. This is true. Anyways, good for Lee on dry side. Little good for Oilers fans, Evan Mushar, though, get on that right away. Just like, no, not, not time to rest for one second. So Mike, we're also selects three Canadians while you were away. Yeah. Well, hold on. What does it mean about Mitch Martin? Like, I'm sure you guys did a ton of that. Yeah. Like, does this change the conversation at all? I mean, the way I kind of look at it, I'm sure you guys have rehashed this to death, but just had to get this in is like, I think they're, there's kind of a baked in cap that the Leafs weren't going to go over. And I think this shouldn't be a spoiler for anybody involved. It wasn't anywhere near 14. So don't really know how much this changes the conversation. I do wonder if there's some world now where although with Matthews going for, I suppose it takes it away, is there more pressure on Marner? If it's again, Matthews is really the lone outlier in this, you know, like Kneelander got his long term deal. You see other guys doing it as well. Like we said, Pedersen in dry saddle. I don't think it changes the actual conversation between Mitch Marner and the Leafs should there be one. But I certainly think it changes like the tenor of conversation around Mitch in the city as camp opens up. I guess I still see it as a scenario that no matter what Mitch Marner does during the regular season, and I guess I might have said the same thing about William Kneelander, but there were different case studies, right? And Brad's reliving hadn't seen it in person the way it plays out in the postseason. And it was a little different than Mitch Marner was so on an island and has video evidence of his teammates yelling at him on the bench. But I don't think there's like Mitch Marner is going to have an insane regular season. We all understand that might even get a hundred points. Maybe he, guess what? He's always an insane regular season performer, 200 foot player, all specialty team situations. Like we talk about the incredible assist man, but like 30 goal score, right? Like he can put it in the bag of the net as well. Does it all? It won't matter. It shouldn't matter if you're holding his feet to the fire. You should want to see proof of concept in the postseason. Leafs have great success in the postseason, win a couple of rounds, get to a conference final or a cup final and don't win it. Then you can write your own ticket. Then we can have these conversations. I just, yeah, okay, Leon Dreyseidel signs for 14 million. It's a little on the high end of perceived value. I think most people thought it would be between 13 and 14. I don't think it changes the Mitch Marner conversation one, Iota. I think, I don't think it changes it. I think it's just the term. It's more the term than the money. Like the money Dreyseidel and Marner far enough away as part as players like one guy's a heart trophy winner, one guy's a center, the other guy hasn't cracked a hundred points. And like, am I being a little disingenuous with that? Yeah, a little. But there's also a bit of a chasm between what those, what those guys are. So it's not the number for me. It's just the term. And it's what I said at the, at the, off the hop about the idea of everywhere else guys just play in ball and going along and doing everything that is kind of asked of them from a team perspective and it's not take no money, but it's take all the term or give us all the term you can. And I just think that with Marner being the last one out there, it's got to just, again, like it's not changing the conversation, but it just like cranks the frustration up a notch or two, in my opinion. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see how big a story that the Marner thing is going to be because I'm, I'm a little surprised at how little information, how little discourse there was around it during the summer. And that'll be different when he's factually in town and doing media. We'll talk to Luke Fox in the eight o'clock hour about it as well. All right. Now you want to talk about the Mike Ware selection of three Canadians. Okay. I guess we could have been now. It could have been five. I mean, I guess we'll have to wait until the next time there's a Canadian captain and of the president's cup team for a president's cup that's held in Canada. Maybe then you can max it out with five. Ben, I hate to break it probably not going to ever happen again. So three was the absolute minimum. And of course the big snob would be Nick Taylor, but he was awful essentially after winning the Phoenix Open didn't make a cut in a major this year. Adam had when you could have squinted. He would have overlooked some some pretty good players. But again, like I said, how many opportunities are we going to get to have a Canadian captain of the president's cup team for a president's cup that's in this country? And as talented as see what Kim is, like, I don't think the internationals have much of a chance against the Americans anyways, but good for the three Canucks and specifically Dundas is on Mackenzie Hughes. Yeah. I mean, Mackenzie Hughes has been literally begging to get on that team kind of since the last president's cup since it was named in row Montreal, since we were named captain. He has been Adam and he wants to make it. I think there is it's an unquantifiable thing in all sports, but like specifically in golf. I do think there's an element, especially if you're the internationals that you have to have guys that are treating it like a major. You can't have guys are like, all right, let's go have a hit and giggle with the president's cup at the end of the year. So I think there's some element of it of it there. Yeah. It's like, is this ever going to happen again? Maybe probably not though. The idea of like you said, it's like we probably need a major winner. It's going to need a guy to win a major if he wants to be a captain of the president's cup. So, hey, like I'm not putting it past one of these guys getting hot beyond that. It wasn't like, oh, Mike Weir, like just out of nowhere, like, no, it was Todd Hamilton. No, no, Mike. Where was that? Top 10 player in the world. Yeah. The consistent winner. Yeah. During the heyday of Tiger Woods. Yeah. Mike Weir was in contention at every major and yeah, all broke through at Augusta and not Corey Conner's contention where it's like he's there for four minutes and then we never see him hit a shot again after he bogey's two on Saturday or something like that. No, this is the I think you it's impossible not to look at the moment and say what could have been. But I also think you have to I think you have to have some respect for the event if you're Mike Weir and you can't just lock load it with all the Canadians you want. Mike Weir was an assistant cup or assistant captain or vice captain, whatever they call these guys on previous president's cup teams. Guess what? Probably going to be again in the future. If this, you know, upcoming president's cup goes non-disasterously for him, there's a chance he could be the captain of one of these teams again in the future. So I think that like for everybody saying, Oh, come on, throw, see who came in Christian Benazin out. Who cares about these guys? Agreed. Like who cares about these guys is the international team probably going to lose probably see you might as well go down with your own guys. I can understand that element of it, but they're trying to win the tournament. I know like how dare they I know they're trying to win the tournament. So he picked the best guys he could. The tailor thing is so tough because he's hit the most iconic shot in our nation's golfing history. Sorry, Mike, sorry, Brooke, like it is the singular shot. It's not them. It's not the most iconic achievement, but the singular kind of moment, the 72 foot of the putter, all that. But since then he had the win in Phoenix, yes, every other time it's really kind of mattered. The lights have been too bright for him. And that's golf, man. That's the way it goes for a lot of these guys. So I can see a world where, yeah, would it be awesome and they could do all the recreations, the 72 foot putt and everyone get taught. It was great. Awesome. Sure. But Taylor hasn't played well enough to be there. Quite frankly. So I get it. Frustrated. I'm right there with everybody. Like card carrying. Patriot. Okay. Like I mean, you say that, but your actions speak louder than your words just to clarify. Not my actions. I did not. Sorry, your other words speak louder than these words. Yeah, exactly. Listen to the previous words were much louder, like also factually, because you just like snuck that in. You're like, I'm a patriot. I'm a patriot. Despite the fact that I'm glad there's not more Canadians because we're bad at golf. I'm just so mad. And then the other guys were much better than us. Like who cares? I didn't say all the Canadians. More more. I was, I was. I'm in the table for Roger Sloan. I thought you wanted to be in there. You're like me, me and my father as a as a better ball team on Saturday. Yeah, no, I, I, I am so excited for this event. I love international golf. I love team golf. And the fact that there's three Canadians there is quite frankly, just more than I could have ever dreamed. Like I know we've had multiple Canadians till last time I had a bad showing at the president's cup. Quite frankly, the last time. Corey Connors. They were combined. Oh, and eight. Yeah. I don't think they'll be playing together. Okay. Okay. But I, yeah, I think you, I think you have to pick a, you know, a reasonable representative team. Hadwin is the one that is tough. I, I think you could have easily snuck him on there as your fourth. Taylor, it's, it's an iconic moment, but you can't, you can't be on a team because of one moment. What? Twenty four months ago, basically now I'm longer than that. Yeah. I mean, the, the Phoenix Open was less than a year ago, right? Cause that's held. Yeah. Super bowl week, right? Yeah. In February. But yeah, I don't know. I, I love this country. I wanted to see the most Canadians participate. Can I give you a spin? Okay. It will, we now get to talk about how like, if they lose, it could have been like, we are throwing himself with all the Canadians taking all the arrows, going, look, I tried to do it. And yeah, you know, I, I should have done better. If we just would have had a couple more Canucks on the team, the crowd would have been more behind us. So this is actually just Mike Weir, mate, this is the best thing that could ever happen to Nick Taylor and Adam Hadwin, this golfers, you could, you could really zag and say that like them not being part of this, they get, it's like Nick Taylor forever gets to be the guy who won the RBC Canadian Open the year of the President's Cup, one attorney and wasn't there. He's like, they're not my fault when they inevitably lose like they will. What do you think those first interactions, like they, they, they obviously already had a phone call. Mike Weir, Nick Taylor, Adam Hadwin, he called them individually. They were all on the green at the 18th hole a couple of years ago at the Canadian Open. What do you think those first interactions, though, when they see each other in person, Mike Weir and Nick Taylor and Mike Weir and Adam Hadwin, what's, what's that like? I think it's tougher for Hadwin, man. Like Taylor's had his moment, honestly, like t, Nick Taylor, as much as he would have loved to have played at the President's Cup in his country, Royal Montreal, it wouldn't hold a candle to him winning the RBC Canadian Open. Quite, quite frankly, I don't know that he'd even be as cool as the moment next year of getting announced on the first tee is defending champion Nick Taylor. Hadwin's the guy I feel the most for with this because he is a guy with the career he has had that that is a pinnacle. That is a, you know, a crowning jewel or something along those lines, just being named to one of those teams. So he's the one I feel worse about. And that's probably where there's a little animosity is too much, but a little frostiness, I would think, with Taylor, I think it's a lot kind of easier because he's almost like, he's already had the massive moment. So yeah, that's, that's kind of the way I look at it. But yeah, not, not great. Yeah, that scene on 18 and Taylor one and all the guys hanging around there, it's forever going to be awesome. And yeah, when they're all looking back on it, that's the one they'll remember, not the really awkward phone call to that. I don't think this is like a Keegan Bradley, Zach Johnson situation where they're going to be like, yeah, it's just the boys club and dead. I don't think that's what's going to be happening here. No, because there's real reasons why Mike Weir would make the selections that he did. You know, it's also tough to like go against the boys club of Mike Weir, if you're a golfer in Canada, just like not the one I'd want to go against. Yeah, I'd want to be in whatever club Mike Weir is in. But yeah, you know what might might make the experience a little more palatable of being left off the president's cup team is having a big arch. McDonald's Canada has just launched a big menu edition with more of your favorite McDonald's ingredients all wrapped up into one big satiating burger, the big arch, the biggest bite on the Canadian menu to celebrate. We're giving away $100 McDonald's gift card to enter all you have to do is tune into the fan morning show. Listen for the code word then text the code word to 59590 standard message and data rates may apply. Today's code word is patties, text patties to 59590 right now for your chance to win. Give it away another gift card tomorrow. So be sure to tune in when we come back and more golf news as we're still awaiting the merger between the PGA tour and the live tour. But at least we've got a made for TV event pitting PGA tour players against live golfers. Talk about that and more Nax is the fan morning show continues Ben and his brain gunning sports at 59590 the fan. Well, I forgot that was like a million hundred days ago. It was actually yeah, it was the anniversary of the start of the vacation. So yeah, we could go last night or today's Thursday. Okay. Yeah. So we could go yesterday. The olds were holding as a fellow old my myself. The highlight of the concert for me was whoever was running the like camera doing the camera, the crowd shots and they just, I don't know what they were doing, but it's like they hacked into my brain. It was like, just find me the most hilarious 37 year old guy or girl I can look at here. It's like it was just people watching as hell of a time. Nice. I enjoyed myself. Nice. Heard report that Sean Paul maybe like he ran out of steam? Running out of steam would imply like there was something running at the front. I definitely made a remark to my wife that on the second song of the evening, there was a lot of like you do it and pointing the mic to the crowd and puffing and puffing, which I again, like as, as not even that old, but like a fellow old myself, like get it. But come on. Also, yeah, that's your job and people are spending you also like, you know, hundreds of dollars, less good, good time. Good for you. Happy wife, Faffy life and other things. I'm going to see stone temple pilots and live on Sundays. I'm excited about that. So the killer is going to be there. Like I was like there, there was, it was very telling of how invested I was in that concert. Then in the like, you know, I got there like a little early. I want to see the DJs on for whatever. And they're like running through like, Oh, so and so is going to and I'm just like, Oh, killers, that'd be great. Oh, that'd be a good show. And it's like, I could go to those instead of was there. Yeah. Are you going to? No, probably not. Yeah. I mean, pulling trigger on things is basically impossible. Yeah, you're out of vacation days now too. I wouldn't go that far. You know, I don't forget you're here forever. That's right. And I'm happy to be here. Strap in. Oh, and now again, it's September thrilled to do it. Well, maybe you can save some vacation days for December as we most of us do. And then maybe you want to go to Las Vegas because who wouldn't to go see Rory McElroy and Scotty Sheffler facing off against lives, Bryson de Shambo in Brooks, Keptka. That's the most recent edition of the match we've seen sports celebrities apart of this. It started with Tiger and Phil, right? I got to say, it hasn't lived up to the billing most of the time, these matches, okay? There's been moments, but like the celebrity stuff has been a little bit cringe. This has the most potential, I would say, of any of the matches. Oh, wholeheartedly. I mean, these are all guys and, you know, like relatively speaking, peak of their powers. Like obviously, you know, Keptka's been better in any given time, right? Like Rory's had a stretch where he was better, but these guys are all in their prime guys. We look at it at every single major. I mean, Scotty Sheffler can't, they're out of golf tournaments. He just won the last one. I'm sure he's going to win this this week coming up as well. Like he's just going to invent a tournament. They'll give him a title. He can't stop winning. This obviously has the potential for it. Just you mentioned the idea of how these things are. I suppose this one's a little different because we're actually invested in all four of the golfers as opposed to the celebrity element, but they always should have just made this an hour and 15 minute show that's broadcast or that's cut. They record everything and then cut it. Like how great would the Tom Brady like take a suck of that chuck or whatever be if we didn't have to sit through the three hours that led to that to that moment or whatever. So yeah, this one does feel different because these guys, there's a little bit of a live PGA tour element of it, but I even I can only gin up so much excitement for exhibition golf. Yeah. I guess. I mean, it's exhibition golf what you I mean, it started with Tiger and Phil and the reason we were at least a little bit invested is because of the potential animosity. And that's why Rory's involved in this thing. Like you were just taking the top two players, you put Xander next to Scotty and that's the PGA tour is best representative to person team against Bryson DeChambeau and Brooks Capco who are doing I don't know something on the lips or probably playing well, I maybe I've heard tale both of the one tournaments over there who knows sure, but yeah, the reason Rory's a part of this and I know he's given up the ghost and probably rightly so, but he was of course example number one of the the warring factions here. So maybe there's something there I would say the best thing they could have done here and I don't know how late this came together. Yeah. I think what would have been ideal here and I think it's over. I think Scotty Sheffler is PGA tour player of the year. Yep. But if ever there was still a lingering doubt between he and the man who won two majors, Xander Schauffley, Scotty Sheffler against Xander Schauffley in an 18 hole match to decide not the official player of the year, but yeah, what we could all perceive as the player of the year maybe has some juice to it. You've just you've just hit on something and I don't know how we make this happen. But so the tour championship happens, okay, and then you know, I know the NFL season is starting today, but maybe we have to reject the tour schedule and then the week after the tour championship, it is grudge week or rivalry week on the PGA tour and it is individual match play with two things are possible. Guys can go to the tour and be like, we have legit animals. Now there has to be some system in here because I don't want like JT and Spieth being like, oh, we hate each other. There has to be some actual animosity here, but I either want a fan vote like, all right, Xander and Sheffler, let's see it, Rory against, I don't know, like pick whoever is interesting to you and that like how awesome would it be to see these guys actually kind of settled these things against Rory. Yeah, Patrick Reed against some guy in the gallery screaming at him telling him he's going to make his catty carry 14 clubs and to shovel like that would be incredible to see. Obviously it's never going to happen, but yeah, there a world where you got Xander Sheffler for the for all the marbles, all the toastitos to quote Brett Musburger like, yeah, it'd be amazing. Yeah. I mean, you said that you're not into exhibition golf, which I understand in your ride, like nothing is quite like, you know, a Sunday at a major obviously, but that's the beauty of golf though as well that if there is something on the line personally between two players in match play, I think there could be some juice to that. I love, I mean, again, like I'm a golf sicko by I watch college golf championships and that's match play and that's awesome because, and yeah, they're playing for a national title. So some things on the line, but what's on the line with the like in the, you know, we're going to get like a little philosophical here, but it's like what's really on the line with the rider cup, like what's really on the line with the, it's, you're just competing to win your Sunday singles match, like we might wear Tiger Woods, like we have these moments. You remember read and Rory head to head against each other. We remember these moments and yeah, there is an element that if there was some buy-in because that's all it takes. Right? Yeah. We've kind of done this. We kind of saw this thing starting to shift with the Olympics when golf came back into it. It was like 2016 this, this is weird, we'll watch, but this is weird. And the next iteration rolls around, it's a COVID game since it's weird again, but there's real buy-in. All the top guys were there. You saw what the board looked like at the end and they're, it felt like it mattered more. And obviously these things take time to kind of build upon themselves, but it mattered more, yes, because in Olympic medals on the line, but it's because all the guys are there and they care is also why it matters. So yeah, there's, there's something there. I don't know what exactly it, it is, but there's definitely something there. Yeah. But this as well is that these guys hate looking Craven, and like, just put a, just put like, you know, get some billionaire to put cajillion dollars on the line. Yeah, the money thing, I mean, that was supposed to be why we care about the FedEx Cup. No, I don't care less about the 25 million handed to Scotty Scheffler at the conclusion of the tour jam. No, but I'm saying to get them to care. Like once you see them, because you do, I mean, that's why they're there, right? And they care enough. There is, there is a prize, right? Like, I'm sure there is some millions of dollar prize for the winner of the match. They usually do like your charity gets X, Y, or Z. And like, I, I hate to break it to you guys, but like Scotty Scheffler, and I know he's a man of God, so maybe I shouldn't have picked him cares more about winning for himself than he does for charity. Okay. Like I think there's an element to that. So I don't know. It's the thing we come to with this all the time. It sounds in theory, like a great idea. I remember they did one during COVID where McElroy played at seminal golf club, and that is for golf sickos only. I remember watching it just so I could see this, you know, storied course. And even me, after 45 minutes, okay, like I got it. It's good. Well, golf is not digestible. I mean, you hit on like sitting around for four hours, and especially if the match gets out of hand or something, that's not ideal. This was always the problem with the match play event that we no longer have is that it's awesome through pool play and matches left, right, and center. And then it gets to Sunday and you got a final and guys playing for third, which they're obviously super. And isn't the final now 36 holes, too? Well, I don't. I can't remember what they did with it, but yeah, like they've they've completely, you know, the event no longer exists. So it doesn't matter what they used to do. Yeah, just this feels like a very singular year in which you could have done the Donovan Bailey, Michael Johnson thing where you just plucked Xander Shoffley and Scotty Sheffler, because there is still some debate. I think it's over. Like I think winning the Olympic gold and the tour championship doesn't matter, though. Just to clarify. I mean, if you again, that's it. You want to talk about short field? How about 30 guys and you get the head start? Hey, I mean, really? Come on. Call it more. Cowa winner of the tour championship. But anyways, no, but you went enough of those short field high caliber events. Eventually I got to give it to you. But yeah, it's still this feels like the year that you got to have these two. I think they're one, two in the world golf rankings as well. Yeah, I would imagine. I throw those two guys. Maybe the thing is they don't hate each other. No, well, there's no hate to Scottie Sheffler, like, I don't know what's going on the Xander's world. And those guys are not going to take the result of the match between them as like, oh, that stamps at home. Now you guys all see, you know what you need is like, and I feel like we still do this. Although we as a society have decided there's one that actually matters. But like when I was growing up, I feel like I remember hearing about like the AP MVP or the AP offensive player of the year versus some other publication or like this used to be a thing in college football, like, well, this poll has them number one and this poll has them number one. You need it like, I don't know, like golf digest and, you know, pick your other golf publication of note to be like Scott, my golf channel has Scottie as their player of the year. And some other thing of note has Xander as their player of the year. There needs to be an actual thing to kind of force them together as opposed to just like, well, you guys are the best. Come on. The real scenario would be both guys claiming they had the best year. Oh, oh, you mean them poking their head up and talking about how great they are? Yeah. Something tells me only one of them. No, it's going to be doing that. Anyways, yeah, it's it's it's fun, something that will watch if it's on, but I don't know if it necessarily is destination television unless it's on sports that then it is absolutely destination. Would it be different if it was not just a if this if we got the event we've all actually joked about, not a match, but the Ryder cup or whatever you call it for the soul of golf live versus the PGA tour, like, would it be different if instead of these four guys, it was eight and it was all the big boys and Phil was there and DJ's there and ROM is there. Like, would it would it change the impetus of that? Because we've all said that would be appointment viewing and now that I'm asked to that right that well, that's what I'm trying to illuminate. The answer is no, there's just too much money made on both sides and it's you know what, it might have meant something a year ago. Yes. Time has healed the wounds. It's just like, even Rory can't gin up any anger towards live anymore. No, he was screaming and yelling and everyone just did all around him or just like, we're going to do you dirty. So yeah, I'm going to scream and yell a little less. That's what I would do. All right. I want to talk about Whit Maryfield losing it. Who is now a member of the Atlanta Braves, he had a short little tenure there with the Philadelphia Phillies and they said, we actually want to put together one of the best offenses in baseball and you don't fit that mold so off you go. And he's in Atlanta doing relatively well doing his Whit Maryfield thing with the Braves. He was hitting the bag and I had the other day by a pitch from Rocky's rookie, Jeff Chriswell. And he was not too pleased about it. Here's Whit Maryfield. It's ridiculous. The way where the game is at right now, it's just ridiculous. The way pitchers are throwing out, there's no remorse for, or to regard for throwing it up and in. The guys are throwing as hard as they can and don't care where the ball goes and it's, it's just, it's ****. You can't hit a guy anymore back. There's no fear that, oh, if I hit this guy, our guy's going to hit it. That's not even getting anymore. The pitchers don't have to hit anymore so they don't just get in the box and the teams are bringing pitchers up and don't know where the balls go. They throw 100 miles an hour so we're like, all right, we'll see if we can get the guys out. Just set up down the middle and throw it as hard as you can and it's, it's driving the nuts. I hate where the game's at right now with that. It's, it's, it's just pathetic. It's fragrant pathetic that some of the pitchers that were running out there don't know where the balls go and they make sure they do it. He's 100% right. And it, it reminded me of Brian Burke talking about getting the rats out of the game by yeah, having the enforcers around and that, that's what keeps the game clean. Now your mileage may vary on that. But I think what, what Maryfield's hitting on in baseball is 100% true. Like if you, if there is fear of retaliation, you as a major league pitcher, well, one, if you're in the National League, 15 years ago, you're going to have to step into the batter's box, which was the ultimate, like, Oh, you, you want to come up and in? You want to give me a chin music, a drill me in the head? Let's see how comfortable you feel when you actually have to step into the box and try and lay down your bunt. Yeah. And then instead you're, you're eating Rawlings in the face. So there's no that there is no retaliation because, you know, the, the, the it's so unfair the way warnings are doled out and that you could be just retaliating and you're the only one ejected. And to the point that Whit made about velocity being king in Major League Baseball, it's 100 percent right that it doesn't matter if you walk five per nine in the minor leagues. If you can throw 103, you get to try to see if it will work at the major league level. And for somebody that has to step in against that, again, it must be terrifying. It reminds me of the scene in Bull Durham, where a nuclear loose. He does. He hits the mascot. Yeah. And, and yeah, Kevin consciousness. Yeah. I don't know where it's going. Yeah. You made a lot of good salient points there and I'll pick up on each and every one of them, but not until I know how good a job Whit Maryfield did of trying to stop himself from swearing. He pump faked that, that cuss about three or four times before he actually got it off. So good. He tried his best. Good job there. He's right. Oh, it guys heads, but you also cannot live in a world where there's nothing to stop people from doing that if they go and do it. This is part and parcel of the conversations we've talked about with Chris Bassett throughout the year of the idea of are these guys, are they hurlers? Are they throwers? Are they chucking a javelin out there or are they pitching because we've kind of got away from that now? I'm not all the way on Bassett's camp there of like, you know, I sometimes think he can be a little, what's the word I'm looking for? Like he can be, he can be a little adversarial to guys, it seems like who just run it up there? 104 105 and I love that that's a part of the game, but I don't think you should be doing it. If you can't hit the broad side of a barn or you have no control, it's kind of what we talk about on the other side of things where it's like, okay, the profile of what you want in a hitter has kind of completely changed. And it just forget the player safety part of it for half a second. It just makes it a less compelling game to watch. So I think it hits on a lot of good things, but there's other parts of this as well that he kind of left on the table for us. Like there are a lot of reasons to agree with what Maryfield, not the least of which are his own health and safety, honestly. Yeah. The players association would be well advised to try to promote a rule maybe that that punishes pitchers for not even intentional hit by pitches, right? Like cuz you need some disincentive to pitch up and it's like, I don't want it. I'm sure Jeff Chriswell was not intending, like in a law season for the Rockies, he's a rookie. He's trying to establish himself. You think he wants to hit Whit Maryfield? The way Whit Maryfield is hitting at this point, his career, he wants to pitch to Whit Maryfield. He's not intending to do that, but guess what, he knows that if he does, it's not the end of the world. Might be the end of Whit Maryfield's world, but he'll be fine. Jeff Chriswell, I think what Major League Baseball should like to curb this, unless you're gonna do the whole I for an I thing, which for me, like I'm down with, like let's get back to bean brawls. Agreed. Just let me say that. But that's probably not likely to happen. No. So what we're probably going to move towards and what players should be advocating for if they want to eliminate this is just like severe punishments for a pitcher hitting a batter like above the belt or something or near the head, right? Like it doesn't matter if it was intentional or not. It's going to make you a little more wary of coming up and in on somebody. If you know you're going to be ejected and automatically suspended for 10 games with there is intentional or not. Yeah, I definitely love to see, you know, like I'd love to see a world where that plays out. I would be curious, but I am just such a I'm so loathsome towards black and white rules like even in the NHL, like I load the like flip the park over the glass of the penalty, like understand the way we got there because the the gray area anytime we ask for it, it gets confusing. But also the black and white like I I load there be a no, you know, room for interpretation on these side of things. So I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but that's but that's the only way to do it because no, you're like, yeah, again, nobody's intending to throw at somebody's head. If you do, you're out of the game. Sorry. So don't do it. Yeah, and if you do, you better be accurate. Mm hmm. It's the only way to stop. I've been guys taken again, 105 mile an hour Rawlings to the face. Imagine a hard baseball is going to be for Alec Manoa if that rule picks up should he come back? Yeah, there's a lot of guys again, that's the nature of major league baseball in 2024. 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