I've been spending more time in California lately and I just love it there. Literally every time I'm there it just feels like that song. I think I like this little life and I can't wait to get back there to my friends and the community that I've built. I'm hoping to get back in the fall, but every time I visit LA I've realized I could easily be making some extra money if I just Airbnb my home while I'm away. I always love staying in Airbnb's when I'm away so I can just settle into a good routine and I'm excited to host people in my home too. Whether you have extra space in your home or you're looking to make some extra money while you travel somewhere fun, your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much at Airbnb.ca/host. Fastball and it's hit through the hole in the left. Gertner's going to be held to base it for Wagner. Pines it to center field and it's going to drop Manuel Margot got a little bit caught in between right there and it drops in front of him and Wagner's two-for-two. Give the pictures an awful lot of credit initially and there's one. Oh boy, that's huge. He took a chance and man did it pay off. Good timing cap. Whew! That's the third and three hit game for Will Wagner since he's joined the Bluejay picture because he was dead in Darwin. Can you stay a minute? Will Wagner, another hit for him as he likes one end of the right field corner. An RBI double brings in Varture Kurt to third. Will Wagner is now five for six tonight. He's been great. He's been steady. I think, of course, rookie in franchise history, right, five hits. It's amazing. Congrats to him. He's just, he's steady, you know, even in that couple game stretch where he was kind of not getting hits. I mean, again, we're not asking to hit 500, but he's just steady, he's a pro. Nothing really faces him, so I just love the way he goes about it every single day. Simple swing and, you know, it just understands him. Why don't you ask people to hit 500? Fan Morning Show Sportstime 5.9 of the fan, Ben and Sam Gee seems like if you can do that, why wouldn't you do that? Like, don't demand it, but hey, you're interested in maybe hitting 500? Yeah. That'd be great. Happy Tuesday after Labor Day, which of course, Sammy, means the end of summer. Yeah, those suckers, those kids gotta go back to school. Hey! Not until tomorrow, though. Oh, yeah, right. Yeah, because why not, you know, after two months off, take another day off? Today's painting. Is that everywhere, though? It's in Halton. Okay. So I can't say for certain. I was up in the sound this weekend. I was up in the sound this weekend. Yeah. Remember, Tommy? They're going back to school. Today? Oh, yeah. Right. They do a lot of things right up there. All my bides with armies of children were like, yeah, I don't know about school. That's how they do it up there. All the families have armies of children. Many children. They plow the fields. I did the exhibition over the weekend. Oh, nice. Yeah, I got to do the air show, get my air show, fill it. Ah, you're a big air show guy. Yeah. The children are big air show people. Yeah. I am also a... Too loud. Far too loud. The best part of the air show is... It's far too loud. It's the aerobatics. It's the snowbirds. And whether... I mean, this year was the red arrows, which is the Royal Air Force demonstration group. We had the Blue Angels, which is the U.S. and A.V. Oh, yeah. I got it. It's a fart. It's because they're named after a thing you do with farts. No. I think it's the other way around. Yeah. I think the fart is named after them. Oh, yeah. Good question. Anyways. I think someone... The first ever time someone held a lighter to their fart, and it was like... And it was blue. And it was blue. You're like, "Wow!" It's like a blue angel like the Air Force. I think that's how it happened. I'm not so sure. Okay. You don't think that somebody did that. Like, we've had fire a lot longer than we've had aviation, and we've been able to do the other thing for... So what you're telling me is that the entirety of women here is telling me is that the American Air Force. It's not in A.V. If you're aware of the hell they did, named it after a big fart that was lit on fire. I don't think they were fully aware of that part, and they didn't care about it. Okay. I love the Air Force. You get out there. I love the Aerobatics, and I love... There was a couple of fighter jets at this year's air show, CF-18, F-22. The best part, though, is the first low fly over over the crowd where it feels like the earth is coming to an end. There's nothing better than that. Yeah. So, I extremely, in the middle of the air show, do not care about the air show. Yeah. I'm not. Oh, yeah. No, a lot of people are offended by what I just said, I'm sure. Not a big aviation guy over here, but I just feel for my poor dog. My poor dog. Oh, yeah. Bandfire works. Band air shows. Band of all the loud things are band-thunder for Ludon. You can't handle it. Like, we actually... Deal with it, Lou. We have to leave the city every Labor Day, because he just can't do it. Yeah. He's annoying as hell. He's just running around crying. Oh, that's why he left the city. Yeah. I mean, he's awesome. Because you love Great Bruce County. Listen, I'd love to go to awesome-owned sound for awesome long weekends with perfect weather the whole time. I enjoy that, too. But, yeah, the air show, very loud. Hey, I had a follow-up. I went to, like you said, Great Bruce County this weekend and had a wonderful time, put some golf, spend some time with friends, and I went to spend some time with some Toronto friends that actually have a place in Thornbury and went over there and spend some time with them. Thornbury, about 35 minutes around on sound. Went there. We were talking, and I got talking with them about the coffee thing. Oh, yeah, yeah. I put the lukewarm coffee. You're a horrible coffee take. So, listen to this. For the uninitiated last week, Sam says that he makes coffee, doesn't finish it, and then like three hours later resumes the coffee without reheating it. My buddy, Hughes, he told me that he has a friend. Their parents brew a pot of coffee at the start of the week. No, that's sickening. That's sickening. And then they drink from that pot of coffee for the entire week. Oh, my God. Well, that's like... Oh, my God. I'm a saint. Oh, my God. That's like the final scene of "No Country for Old Men," right, where Tommy Lee Jones goes to visit his father, and he also lives with many cats, because he's... So that's the type of person you're associating yourself with. Yeah, but they're like... The people that brew coffee on Monday and drink it on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. But he's like, they're very normal people, nice house t-shirts like love, and they just drink dirty old coffee. That's sickening. So, I'm not a bad... You know, okay. I get it. We're all pension pennies, right? Yeah. And it's hard to get by. No, but there's nothing... Coffee is not breaking the bank. Yeah. I got to tell you. Unless you go to one establishment that I went to this morning, and there was... Sure. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, okay, so they're brewing the most expensive coffee. Listen, I had to go to one place that was $8 for that, and the other place it's $3.25. So, you know, it's a bit of a difference. Anyways. Wow. Yeah. All right. Well done. I just wanted to follow up on that. I thought I wasn't the grossest guy ever. Okay. Well done. Thank you. You are just horribly gross. But not the grossest. Thank you. Honestly. If you're going to be gross, you kind of want to be the grossest. Just go all the way. And now you're just in the mushy middle of grossness. If you're going to steal a horse, steal a horse, and ride it, just do the damn thing. Be the grossest guy. Now you're just some middle of the road gross guy. Anyways, blue jeans are very middle of the road bad team. They're not white socks bad. No way is white socks bad because they've lost 11 in a row again. Yeah, they're pretty bad. But obviously they have no players anymore. The lineup on, what was it, the Saturday or the Sunday game? The Sunday game was hilarious with no Vladimir Guerrero Jr. no George Prager. I mean, that's the lineup that you show to your April self that this is going to be put forth in a September game for you. And you're like, what the hell happened? Nathan Lucas, Ernie Clement, Spencer Horwitz, Addison Barger, Leo Jimenez, Joe Luporfito, David Schneider, Luis Delos Santos, and Brian Servin, your nine starters in that baseball game. I've never heard of Delos Santos before. Yeah, it's the second call up in the season. Never heard of him. Missed the first one. Missed the first one. Never really saw him. This is the equivalent. You know how like around the start of the season, the Leafs 2015 starting lineup starts floating around where it's like, like, Winnick and, yeah, and what's the other guys name, Peter Holland. I think it was in that line up. Peter Holland. Yeah, I was trying to think of the other guys. It's a business man now. Maybe of some kind. There's a guy that got from the shop. I'm just like, I can't remember all my names, but there's bad names in there. I want to find it so I could look it up. But that's what that reminded me of. I looked at it. And then of course, they, it's not any of the young men or, you know, middle-aged men that screw them. It is their best reliever that blows a save in Royce. First one of the season. And Royce Lewis, of course, who is an absolute dream murderer was last year in the playoffs. Yeah. Again, hits a hood, you know, on the home run to go ahead or whatever, but yeah, Chad Green's allowed to have a bad outing. For sure. For sure. For that lineup, you're not expecting the outcome to be your only good reliever being the one that coughs it up and then in the eighth inning. No, it could have been honestly one of the rare highlight moments of the season. If that lineup had beaten a team in the Minnesota Twins that has playoff aspirations, as division title aspirations to wrap up a road trip, it would have been a four and three road trip through Boston and through Minnesota or, you know, whatever, five and three, depending on how you view the resumed game, it doesn't officially count as part of this road trip. It really is, you know, not to, to crap on the Minnesota Twins here, but like, the White Sox effect is so real. Oh, of course. That is such a middling team. Yeah. Again, they're missing Corea. I know they're, I know they're missing guys, but like, who cares. I look at that line of them. Like, this team is how many games about 500? Yeah. They're doing what to try to beat the J's who are like, not very good. I, I just. Duran out of the bullpen. Yeah. Oh my God, he's nasty. But like, just every guy that comes up, I'm like, Oh my God, like this is a playoff bound lineup. Potentially, it's just not inspiring at all. And you just look at that division. Every team just gets to get a buy. Yep. They basically get 10 extra wins. And it's just, it just sucks for a team like the J's who just has to battle all the good teams in the league every year. Yeah. The, the blue J's are going to be griping on Tuesday morning at six, 10, but it's just it's. We've been there before. But at least there's only 13 games as opposed to, yeah, we're not that far. Her move from 19 times. Oh my God. I know. Play your own division. Yeah. I mean, to your point, and we'll get more into this after seven o'clock, the Kansas City Royals have lost six straight, the Detroit Tigers. They're only two games over 500. They're quite bad. Despite the fact that we last saw them winning a series over the blue J's, that means nothing. Tigers are bad. They sold at the deadline. They're in this thing. Yep. They're the red Sox have stubbed their toes severely. They're still in this thing. All you have to be is 500 in September to be in it for the blue J's to be out of it is remarkably bad is it's, it's quite an accomplishment for a team that was decent last year and obviously made the playoffs. They weren't great. But like if you're just that team again, you're right there. Yeah, they're not. But it makes sense why they would try and run it back because why not? Yeah, you don't have to be very, you don't have, but it's, it's not just the American League. They're right in it too, right? The Mets are okay and obviously they spend a ton of money, but Mets are nobody's idea of some incredible world series contender. Anyways, blue J's, they, they wrapped this road trip up reasonably well, maybe four and four of you include the eight ninths resume game in Boston. This was for me an interesting stretch of games and it continues here. They got the Phillies for a little mini two game set with the off days on either side. It continues. The 16 game stretch against teams below 500 and went 10 and six on the strength of seven and all against the angels, which is yeah, that's okay. It's important context, but they held their own against bad teams. They can beat bad teams. How do the young players look against not the best teams? Phillies maybe are the best teams, but in a Red Sox team and a twins team that cares about winning and like they have postseason aspirations, blue J's put up 15 runs on Saturday. Does it mean anything to you that they're hanging in that they're winning these occasional games that they look not that dissimilar to these other teams that might be in the playoffs? Yeah, I think it matters. I think you want these guys to be, I don't know how you quantify this, but you want these guys to be getting these reps in games that matter, right? Like I think it'd be stupid to say that it doesn't matter. I mean, again, the no expectations part of this and not having the pressure on your side of it is always something that's hard to quantify. And I don't know how that affects people and the pressures of games affecting different types of people. It's it's hard. It's impossible to quantify them and trying to quantify it in sports for a hundred years. It's just it's hard to to do, but like I enjoy watching these games, especially against the teams that are in these races. And yeah, I think the J's have performed pretty well in these young guys that have come up. Well, I keep saying young these men, some of them are young. These mid 20s guys. Well, they're young for baseball. Yeah. And some in some of the guys that were in the lineup on Saturday are not young, like Nathan Lucas Ernie. Command are not young. Look at Nathan Lucas. His face. That is not a young. That beard is not a young man's beard. I just I think it is nice for them to play in these games that have stakes and kind of learn how to win in these kind of games, you know, all that all that sort of old crap that we say. But I do think it matters. And it is nice. Like, do you feel like it matters? It matters to a degree. Depends on who you are, right? Depends on the player and it depends on what level of performance you're getting. And I'll take the example of the guy that we heard the montage of coming into the show today. Will Wagner, who had the incredible start and a little bit of a come down because yeah, he wasn't going to hit 500, but then he had his first home run of his majorly career against lefty. And then he has the first ever five hit game by a Blue Jays rookie in history. Blue Jays had some pretty good rookies during the rookie year. Eric Hinsky was a rookie of the year. Blue Jays had some very good young players. Nobody's ever gotten five hits in a baseball game. Again, that was not against the Angels. That was against a twins team trying to make the playoffs, albeit a twins team that was packing it in by the end of that thing. Biggest ever win in a shutout ever in Blue Jays history as well. Fifteen nothing. At a certain point here, and I'm not saying that Will Wagner is the second coming or even an everyday major leaguer. But if this continues to somewhere close to this degree, which is a high bar, no doubt. Will Wagner will put and maybe this is a bad connection to make because of the way things have gone since this happened. Will Wagner will have put himself in the Davis Schneider situation where the end of the season was so undeniably good that you have to at least give him the opportunity to fail. Because at some point, if you don't do that, you're eliminating the idea that this is a meritocracy that Will Wagner has at least earned himself on opening day in 2025, an opportunity to be on the Blue Jays opening day roster. Now, what capacity is that? I mean, he plays the same position, maybe he spends a Horowitz and depending on what you do in the off season, and you probably don't want him not in an everyday role. But at a certain point, you do need to see if this is real. And another month is not going to convince you 100% it is because Davis Schneider, again, the prime example of this shows up at Fenway Park saves the season from an interest standpoint, and then starts this season like a ball of flame single handedly wins the Blue Jays a game in Houston. And then he looks like he's never played major league baseball for like the last two and a half months. That he's saying seems like. Oh my God. Like three years ago. But yes. Yeah. So at a certain point here with the Will Wagner performance being as ridiculous as it's been. If he continues to hold his own and look like an above average hitter against right handed pitching, I don't know if you have a choice but to have him start next season on the roster. And now in what capacity, it depends on what the Blue Jays do in the off season. But yeah, at a certain point, yeah, you have to, you have to tell your, the players in your organization that what you did in the major leagues means something for sure. And I think we're, we're, if this continues, it's another month to go, right. And you could easily see it not continuing. But if it does continue, Will Wagner is on my opening day roster in 2025. Yeah. He's got a 919 OPS. Yeah. I don't have that. It'll still be a small sample though. I don't think he could happen to him next season. I think, I think I'm looking at this with all these guys, Ben, is sort of like a hierarchy when, you know, just stock up, stock down for all these guys heading into next year where, yeah, I think Will Wagner is showing you that he can give you a capable at bat and he looks like a major league ready guy. He's not this. I don't think like, I don't think he's going to be a 919 OPS like 900 OPS kind of guy. But yeah, I, again, if they're wanting to contend next year, right, which they've said a million times and Mark Shapiro came out and did that press conference where he was adamant about being a World Series contender next year. All these guys should be competing for the two last spots on the roster, right? So I think it's not what we're talking about. David was David Schneider, the way he played he was on, he was not a starter every day at the beginning of the season. Yeah, that was like the number one hot topic where everyone's like, you got to get him in the line. I remember it was super pissed off. That was at the start of this year. You sound like me. That's what I was. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I mean, right. Right. I could even last year they would sit him down a couple of times and everybody would be like, Oh my God, you can't sit him. And I think I had the correct take, which was he's probably not this. But don't we press press press press don't we owe it to ourselves to see if he's this. Yeah. I think that, you know, I really liked what I've seen from Will Wagner clearly, you have to be, you know, there would be a really harsh critic to say you don't like what you've seen. But I just, I take all this stuff with such a grain of salt because there's been so many times you've been tricked by September and it's happened a million times. Yeah. So you give him the opportunity. I think he goes into camp next year or into spring training as like one of the top dogs when it comes to the quote unquote young guys and you go in and you give him the opportunities in spring, you see what he does in spring and then you go from there. But like, yeah, he's on the roster next year. Clearly, if he keeps doing this, there's no question, but like, you just have to be a question though. Well, I agree with you. Would you rather have him or Horowitz on the roster next year? Well, that's a tough one because Spencer, I mean, it's tough one. They're the same guy. It does seem like they're very similar profiles and one guy has a longer track record than the major leagues just be, you know, do the fact that he was in the organization longer. But yeah, they have good eyes. They have good bad to ball skills, not a ton of power, not a ton of power. Maybe not the world's best defender at second base. Really similar. Yeah. Like they're both left handed. Yeah. You know what's better than one Spencer Horowitz to Spencer Horowitz. So I think it would probably come down to a good decision between those two, whether which one of them you want on the, there's a lot of interesting decisions for the 26th man on their show. It's 25th man. Somebody's going to be playing second base between those two on opening day. You think? I think so. I think second base is a position, you have so many holes you need to fill on this roster, this off season. I feel like second base they're going to take the Ernie Clemens, the Will Wagner's, the Spencer Horowitz's, and they're going to mix and match and make it work for second base. Yeah. Yes, left field, another bat, then you can DH. I think those are all areas they'll look to improve or maybe they'll trade one of these guys. Yeah. Which I think is would be very smart if they could get something of value for the bullpen from one of these guys. I think it's something you would think about doing. But like much like they did with Rowdy Toles when they traded him for Trevor Richards. Yeah. Just a capable left handed bat that can give you a little bit in the Major Leagues for a solid reliever. And have them. Francis. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, it's, it's, I think I right now would say I'd rather have Will Wagner than Spencer Horowitz, but that's just shiny new toy syndrome. Yeah. Yeah. Five hits. It's like two games ago. Of course I want that guy. He's got 19 OBS. It's all this stuff so hard to me with these small samples where you're trying to project the next year over a huge sample. So it's, it's hard for me. But yeah, Will Wagner has shown me lots of great stuff in that trade. Looking awesome. Yeah. Looking absolutely awesome. He does clean it up. I mean, he's, you know, he's up and down, but there's obviously some potential there. I, I, I, and I don't, we haven't seen Bloss yet. The last we've heard from him was obviously not great in Buffalo. But by all accounts seems like an excellent trade for both teams because Kukuchi's been excellent for the Houston Astros. So there you go. Both teams win. So I'm not sexy, but both teams win the trade it seems like. Yeah, lame. You'd like to win. You'd like the other team. No, yeah. That one, that one Kukuchi is suck. Although I really like Kukuchi and I'm happy for him. So I had stopped. I mean, it would make him a more viable potential return candidate and free agency. But now he's going to get paid. And good for him. Big time. He already got paid. Yeah. But again, he's going to get more than Conor McDavid money this time. Obviously. So I mentioned, yeah, maybe you trade one of these young guys. Is there any of them that you'd be terrified of trading away that they actually become something because I guess what I'm sure the pirates or the Orioles or Hey, the Oakland A's had Edwin Encarnacion. But the pirates in the Orioles had Jose Aboutista in their organizations. Pirates were the last one before the Blue Jays traded for him, gave him a give up Robinson Diaz, their former prize catching prospect. And he turned into one of the greatest sluggers in franchise history, Edwin Encarnacion, DFA by the Blue Jays. So the Blue Jays gave him up. He was briefly in the off season in Oakland A before he returned to Blue Jays and became Edwin freaking Encarnacion, which is, you know, potential one day member of the level of excellence. I enjoy that experience. Every game I went to hit a homerun. I went to a game every game for like three years, we hit a homerun. He's unbelievable. He's pretty good. So yeah, do I think any of these players have that type of potential? No, not necessarily, but you cannot discount it. Again, those players were left for dead. And they were in their late twenties before they figured it out and became franchise all time greats and in the middle of one of the best Blue Jays lineups in franchise history. Are there any one of these guys? So we don't earn all he doesn't count. Ernie Clement, Spencer Horowitz, Will Wagner, Addison Barger, Leo Jimenez, Joey Loper Fido, David Schneider, and the guy you just found out about Luis Delos Santos, any of these guys that you see, you know, their names pop up on the list. It's the transactions this offseason, you're like, ah, okay, it's a nice return. But God, I'm terrified that guy could become something and haunt us for years to come. Well, maybe seeing Leo Jimenez make a Derek Jeter play, maybe he turns into Derek Jeter. I don't know. But I guess the easy answer would be like, if they're going to trade Loper Fido in the offseason. Really? Yeah. I have a different answer, but go ahead. You know, I just, he seems like the most pedigree prospect of all those guys, right? Like the guy that's supposed to be like the highest ceiling, right? It depends on who you ask, but like he, I mean, when they were throwing around flatty trades at the deadline, when you saw mock trades, he was part of those trades. Sure. Right? So, you know, I don't, and like I was in the centerpiece, but no, but I went, I went through my favorite thing to do when you trade with a team, your favorite team trades on our team. I went through the mentions of their Twitter account. Yeah. And people were absolutely beside themselves that they traded Joey Loper Fido. Like they, they couldn't get over the fact that they traded him. So I guess it would be him, but I, I have a hard time thinking that any of these guys are going to turn into, uh, hunters. I agree. Who would be yours? I think my, my final answer is Joey Loper Fido. That would be the guy that I think has the potential to turn into the biggest star. Yeah. I think it's between two guys. I think Joey Loper Fido is one. Yeah. I think the other is Addison Barger. I think the raw skills that exist with Addison Barger, the light tower power, the swing speed stuff. Sick arms. He throws a million miles an hour across the diamond and he wrestles alligators. Like I think Addison Barger could be like a folk hero somewhere. If he ever figured it out. Now everybody has incredible minor league numbers getting into his numbers compared to Joey Loper Fido's numbers. They're pretty similar. Joey Loper Fido played in the Pacific Coast League, which is absurdly, um, batter favored and the international league in triple A, where the bison's play, same deal because of the, the, the review system they have for balls and strikes, um, and dream. I mean, I don't know if I want to do it exactly. Actually, in the way that the international league does it, where you challenge balls and strikes. I think you have three a game. That to me is perfect. Anyways, no, I just think because of the raw skills that exist with Addison Barger and the same is true of Joey Loper Fido and maybe has more of the speed side of it and you can see it more defensively, obviously with Joey Loper Fido, but I think one of those two guys could come back to eye. No offense to Spencer Horwitz. I don't think Spencer, Spencer Horwitz could have a 10, 15 year career of being exactly what he is right. Yeah, I don't think he's coming back to haunt you. I think the guys with the higher upsides, the lower Loper Fido's and the Barger where they have these incredible raw skills, I just, I believe a little bit more in the raw skills of Addison Barger. And it was fun to see those guys go back to back in the ninth inning to single handling a game a couple of weeks ago, anyways. And yeah, and Barger was part of maybe the greatest double play in Blue Jays history on the weekend. So yeah, maybe a shiny new toy syndrome again there with that play, but yeah, no, I, he's just got the look too, right? Like he's got fan favorite look to him. Like he's just big strong guy hair. You don't think I had my wife say, who's that? Yeah, of course. And the way he swings the bat is so fun. Like he's just, he's kind of wild up there. Like he's just a very aesthetically pleasing baseball player. And you're right. I could picture him getting trade for some middling and bullpen arm this offseason. And he goes and he has like an 800 OPs with the pirates and it's like, how do we let Barger go? He's the man. Like I could definitely picture that. Yeah. Yeah, I could really picture that. But I'm still stick with my answer and say enjoy Loper Fido. I think it's yeah. It's a good answer. He's the toolsiest guy of all the, of all the prospects that they have. Like he's a true, you know, if what he become, if what he's supposed to become, he becomes that he could be a star. So I think the, the, the baseline is, is higher for Leo Jimenez and Spencer Horowitz. I love Jimenez. I will say. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Leo Jimenez. But I mean, he's playing on it. I like all these guys and they stink. So that's just me being adjacent and watching. If the quest, if the question was, who's going to have the longer career? I would say Leo Jimenez is on a, is on a major league roster. He can be your last man on a roster on just about any team because he can play above average defense at the most difficult defensive position and give you somewhere close to a league average bat. I think in a surprising amount of power considering what I thought we would see on the bat. Real sneaky pop from him. So yeah, I'd like him. Last one on the Blue Jays before we take a break. Yeah. I mentioned Phillies in town tonight. Little two game series. So that'll be fun to see if this young upstart Blue Jays team can take down what could be a world series team and certainly a world series contender and quickly back of the most wins and Major League Baseball. You said to, before you get to Bowdoin Francis coming up here, I wanted to say that I said it before we started the show that if I could switch to Jay's roster with one roster in the MLB, I would take the Philadelphia Phillies roster and you seem to say that I should probably take the Dodgers. Well, I mean, I think at six and one half thousand the other. Those are the two favorites in the National League. And I don't. I mean, while you love that, they just, they're just cool. The Park School. So it wouldn't be the Phillies because they would be playing at the Blue Jays Park. So that's where maybe a bit of a fly in my ointment here, but they're just such a cool team. I love the Phillies. I love them. Yeah. Yeah. They, they, they seem like a team that runs around with their hair on fire and I was trying to find the stat that best exemplifies this, but they're the opposite of the Blue Jays and that they lit, they, they leaned more into offense and defense is like Nick Castellanos is. They got multiple D edges. They got Nick Castellanos. And they got Kyle Swarber. It's a real adventure. And they got Bryce Harper who's like the first baseman. What cares? They hit bombs. Okay. He could, he makes tail. To Oscar Hernandez looked like, you know, I don't know, Shannon Stewart is probably like getting some look good. So yeah, anyways, but yeah, they hit bombs and they have a GM that is kind of a rarity in today's game. We'll get to that after seven o'clock as well and Dave Dombrowski doesn't care about your prospects, he cares about, or your money, like he doesn't, he throws it all at the door for guys who, who match to that point, Phillies are top down offense in baseball. I think we all are of the understanding that that's true and it is mathematically true. The Blue Jays will throw Chris Bassett tonight. Good luck against those lefties, Chris. Depends on whether the roof is open or closed, I guess. It's a grind watching that. Well, this, this doesn't feel like an ideal matchup for him. And then tomorrow we got Bowdoin Francis, what do you got for a follow-up? The ace. The last two starts he's allowed to combine two hits, okay? He's going to be, what, American League player of the week again, have they announced those? I don't know. He's been, he had one of, and by one measure, the best month by a starting pitcher in Major League baseball history. What if he does it again? So it's one thing to do it against the Angels, which he did it twice, and he also has two Orioles games in there. The Orioles games weren't quite as good as the Angels games and the last one where he almost threw a no-hitter. And then the start before that, you know, Boston team that's pretty good. It's one thing to do it against those teams. It's quite another against the Philadelphia Phillies. What if tomorrow night does the thing that he's done for his last four, five, six starts? I will overreact. How do you know it? I will be excited, and I will say things that I can't take back. I really do think that it's, you know, you look for little things to get excited for, and I think I mentioned this last week, but you look for little things to get excited for in seasons like this. This is one that you actually are like, okay, let's see what you got. It's going to be a very interesting, you know, just night to watch him go up against one of the best offenses in baseball. And if he's even decent, like he's not going to be as good as he was in the past few, but if he gives you, you know, five or six innings with a couple of runs and he's good strikes out guys still like, yeah, it'll be a thing. And then we'll get even more excited about this heading into next year, like it's just the momentum. It'll be a runaway train of Bowdoin, France's momentum. That's for sure. Yeah, there'll just be no place to nitpick it if he comes up with a similar start. But having said that, yeah, if he gets lit up like a Christmas tree, yeah, yeah, yeah, then what? Well, then it's just okay. He's not allowed to do that. Okay. No, no, no, it's fine. It's a lot of bad stuff. He because he hasn't had one since he's been a starter for the second go around, gave up three runs, six hits and five and two thirds against the Orioles had that relief appearance against the Yankees and extra innings. Five innings against the Orioles, two earned runs, seven innings, one earned run on one hit against the angels, seven innings, three hits, no runs against the Cubs, eight innings, one hit, one earned run against the angels, seven innings, one hit, no one runs against the Red Sox. That is the Red Sox. Third stretch. Yeah. A absurd stretch. So yeah, no, I think he's allowed a bad one. All right. But like, you know what the narrative will be. Yeah. Oh, you face a good lineup for the first time and a big bong, but whatever. Just like I knew what the narrative would be. If you know you got a picture of Conor McDavid and awesome math, he's having dinner together. Ooh, baby. All right. We'll get into that and more next. The fan morning show continues bananas, Sam McKee Sports at 590 the fan. Everything you need to know about the Blue Jays, Blair and Barker, be sure to subscribe and download the show on Apple Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah. Standard message and data rates may apply. Today's code word is big arch text, big arch to 59590 right now to enter for your chance to win. We're giving away another gift card tomorrow. So be sure to tune in your boy's getting a big arch soon. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I love McDonald's. Yeah. You'll have to pay for it. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah. That's okay. And $100 McDonald's is going to go a long way. The big arch cause $100. No. You're giving away. Oh, okay. No, okay. Seth Jarvis on an eight year extension of the hurricanes worth $63.2 million over the weekend. So that should be a cap hit of $7.9 million. But it's seven and a half because there's some lump sum deferred and apparently nobody knows exactly how much and it feels like a simple math equation, not like not simple for me, but like the people that do the math should be able to figure that out. So it's the lump sum is coming in your nine of this eight year extension. So after it's done on July 1st, he's going to get a bunch of money that is not part of this deal and it allows them to reduce the cap hit by $400,000 is the first I've ever heard of something like this. And I think that the first time for a lot of people now, it's been around since the last CBA apparently, but this is the first time it's been used in a meaningful way. Like I understand how deferred payments and the Maple Leafs have tried to do the thing where they front load contracts where they give you all your, your money at the beginning in, in the form of signing bonuses, which makes some of those deals easier to trade or more enticing for the players because yeah, you, instead of taking your money then get it now. Yeah. But if you get more of it then, maybe there's an enticement to, to, to take it then and then allowing the Maple Leafs some salary cap relief. We'll get to the picture that you tweeted out that everybody was talking about over the weekend in a second because I think there's a relationship here that the Maple Leafs maybe have this weapon that I'm sure they were aware of. And in, in all the, the things that I've seen written about this element of the CBA, it's been discussed and put forth to players before, but players naturally want their money now, not later. Yeah. So Seth Jarvis has been the first guy to say, you know what, yeah, give me it then that's fine. It allows us to do more things now. Well, okay, first of all, love that contract for Seth Jarvis. Sure. God. He's a player in the Leafs, probably. Yeah. Would have been nice. Yeah. But you got all those great Patrick Marlow moments. Oh. Sticky. Sticky Dubas is the worst trade. You just live one more year. You traded the, you traded that contract, so he could sign, Casper, a Casper, and then Andre, it's the odds, and who then were traded in the next offseason. Yeah. Whoopsies. Yeah. That's quite a price to pay a first round pick to staple to your one year of Patrick Marlow. That was like it was a horrific trade. Yeah. I was, you know, looking around on this because I was confused, and I had never heard of it. But Chris Johnson said that the, the coyotes tried to do a shame down, that the Vegas Golden Knights made an offer with deferred payments before free agency this offseason. So like, those two things, are they literally the only examples I'd ever seen or heard of it? Yeah. Would have like, you think, you know, the number one guy they have in the league, apparently, for knowing the cap and knowing all this is Brandon Pritum, who's been the assistant general manager here for however many years, you'd think that you would have had this figured out, or you would have been able to use it. So I guess in much, you know, there's one thing about the leaf stars. They love money. They do love money. Who, who would begrudge them for loving money? Arguably they love it more than winning. They love money. Yeah. Well, they've, they've accumulated more dollars than wins. No question. They have won some contract negotiations, let's just say that. They won a series, so yeah, I'm almost sore. But yeah, I think, you know, everybody's screaming about, why haven't the least done this? And my original reaction to seeing this such harvest contract is, why didn't the least do this? But then I thought about it more. It's just like, yeah, it's a two person situation here. You have to be willing to defer the money. And I think it's pretty clear that the leaf stars, the way that they've act in contract negotiations, other than Matthews has just gotten his two when he gets some of the just, they weren't really much fanfare about it. But the William Neillander thing, you know, he's held out for every last dollar. He famously, you know, marner, we all know the story there. So I don't think they wanted to do it probably. And that's the reason the least haven't done it. But yeah, this is interesting. Okay. And take it, you know, in Tolsky, of course, everybody, all the nerds love them. And he's on the cutting edge of all this stuff. So credit to him for getting a guy to actually do it. So I do think it takes a specific type of player at a specific point in their career to do this. Yes. Because hey, we laugh about how the Maple leaf stars want all their money and they've got all their money. I don't begrudge any professional athlete for wanting money and taking the most money and trying to get the most money. Agree. And I think there's a difference in getting your first big contract. Which marner got his first ginormous contract. I don't know how you would parse Mitch marner's contract and William Nylander's first contract. But now he's getting paid, paid, paid, always paid. And there's no peak of his balance. There's no question that Conor McDavid deserves more than he signed for in Edmonton with the Oilers two years away from free agency. But he's also been paid beyond his wildest dreams, right? He's like eight year 13.25 whatever. It's a lot of as a hundred million dollars in and around, right? And no, he's not going to take like pittance, not playing for league minimum. But if if ever there was a guy that you could say, hey, here's a 20 year deferred salary. And again, I'm talking out of my posterior here because I don't know how the math works. How much can you actually defer? Do you know the percentage? I don't know. Yeah. It's not like you give me show. I don't know if you can't though, it would because it would take somebody willing to say, hey, you know what? Yeah, give me my 80 million dollars, but I'll take it in 20 years. And that will defer the cap hit significantly also makes the 80 million worth less, right? Like that that is the whole thing about the Shoyo, Tony, 700 million dollar deal that's going to be paid out over the next 30 years is that yeah, 70 million dollars in the year 2040, like significantly worth less than 70 million dollars today. But you Connor McDavid, we know he is from Newmarket as a place in the city. I assume, but when he comes here, does he stay with his folks? He must have a place, right? I mean, he's making I by the way, it was 12 and a half for eight years. I saw him for a lot of pittance, what a guy. That's Kelly Olitic money, he and Austin Matthews have worked out together before. And so it's not a surprise to see them on the ice together in the city of Toronto. And I'm sure when they've worked out, yeah, and when they've and yeah, I'm sure Austin Matthews was at Connor McDavid's wedding, which is like a huge lavish extravaganza. Diggy was? Oh, 100 percent. Yeah. You don't think Austin Matthews is at Connor McDavid's wedding? I don't know. I don't know. I had to find it. I had to find it. Connor McDavid's wedding. Work my sources on that one. Yeah, you should. Yeah. Yeah, they were spotted. And I think it's one thing to like know that they're probably hanging out together. It's quite another to see video or physical evidence of them being together, having dinner. Two guys wearing a hats in a restaurant, rude. What was that restaurant? Didn't look like the most upscale established. Take your hat off. What do you go to dinner? It's just the most hard agree. Oh, my God, like if you're sitting at a dinner wearing a hat, I'm like, you are a loser. Are you a farmer? Take off your hat. Well done. That's a good take. Thank you. Almost makes up for your horrible coffee table. Thank you. It blows my mind. It honestly offends me to the every bit of my soul. Anyways, continue. This segment is going to offend Oilers fans to their soul. Yes. But is that anything that they're having dinner together? And yeah, did I make the connection to like the Seth Jarvis deferred money thing to how the Maple Leafs could potentially make a Connor McDavid contract work under the current cap constraints? I may have done that. Yes. I got to tell you, I sent out a tweet yesterday that, you know, it's got a nuclear. It's got the Oilers fans a little hot and bothered. But it's just about them sitting together and Oilers fans will hate this. But it's not nothing, man. It's not nothing. Let me ask you this. How have they talked about Connor McDavid playing for the Leafs? Oh, you would be, yeah, how would that not have come up? Just like, even as a joke, right? Like it definitely can't happen. Oh, yeah. Just a laugh. It's a little joke. We're having a lot. Just a couple of buds. Just a couple of buds enjoying a nice kale smoothie wearing our aloe hats, you know? It's come up. There's no way it hasn't come up. And if I'm a Oilers fan, I am doing the exact same thing that they're all doing. I am projecting. Oh, he's just growing. He loves it. He's trying to get matches to Edmonton. Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, yeah, yeah, for sure. Definitely. That's definitely what's happening. He, Connor McDavid, I have never seen him happier. I have never seen him smile more ear to ear than when he was in Toronto for the All-Star game. And the fans gave him a standing ovation. And he lit up like it was, you know, me on Christmas morning with Jurassic Park toys. Like he was like, oh my God. He was so excited to be here. He clearly loves it here. We all saw the picture after the draft lottery. We know what his feelings were. If they'd, Oilers got to win. Yeah. They got to win. And they got to get Leung Dreyseidel under contract. Because I don't think Leung Dreyseidel doesn't sign a contract if he doesn't know that Connor McDavid saw it. Well, so that's what I was going to, because if, if Leung signs, he's not going to leave his mood. Yeah, he's not going to leave his boy out to dry there in Edmonton. No, but like the longer, by the way, Leung Dreyseidel completely eligible to sign a contract and has yet to do it. In other words, like, oh, it's fine. It's fine. That happens in Toronto with the nightmare. Yeah. Everyone's like, oh, it'll happen. It'll happen. Like for sure. Yeah. For sure. It's going to happen. Like, you know, it's Edmonton and it's a long term commitment. And there's lots of teams out there that could give them lots of money. Yeah. We'll sign it up because we're sure? No, I'm not sure. I'm not sure either. So I just think it's really, really awesome that Connor McDavid is a seemingly excellent buddies and they're on a photo shoot together. They're like, they didn't have to go to lunch together. No. You know, I, you know, I hang out with lots of people in my life that I don't have to go to lunch with. Like, I see lots of people every day. I don't go to lunch with you. That's rude. No, but I love you. But I've got a lunch with you. Like. He's saying you wouldn't go to lunch with me. Two guys love each other. Skipped over that. I would definitely go to lunch with you. Thanks. I'd like all of you. I have too much money to see. Okay. Anyways, I just, they clearly like hanging out with each other. They played together on that weird North American team relationship clearly would have started there. Yes. This is just a nightmare if you're an oily fan. Of course. Because you have to hear from people like me. Of course. From people like, you know, with the, with all the Mitch Marner and Austin Matthews avatars on Twitter that are coming at you about this. It just sucks for whoever's saying that Conor McDavid seemingly best buds of Austin Matthews. And one of them is on a contract for two years longer than the other one. Yeah. I would say though, I mean, the first thing just feels so true that Conor McDavid is so loyal. Oh yeah. That him and Leon Dreyseidel are so joined at the hip that if there was a, an honest conversation between the two and Connor said, yeah, you sign up, I'll sign up, we're going to be here beyond the extent of our current contracts. That there's just no way he would do his, his, his body in like that. He wouldn't do the Oilers fans in like that. But I think more specifically, he wouldn't have Leon Dreyseidel's, you know, with the Will Smith, fresh Prince meme standing at the empty house with no Conor McDavid. Yeah. But yeah, until Penn is put to paper, I just, how do you not discount this possibility? He's a guy that grew up in the area is a Leafs fan, obviously. I keep going back to that picture of him with the, with the Sun Dean jersey. Well, here's, here's the thing. And this doesn't mean for sure it's going to happen, obviously, clearly, but, but there's just no debate that in his heart of hearts, Conor McDavid would love to be a Toronto Maple league. All things being equal, if he could do it over again and he could pick a spot, he would be a Toronto Maple league. No question. No question. And there, there would be, he wants to win a Stanley Cup anywhere, obviously. But there's also no debate that you ask Conor McDavid and you get an honest answer. Would it mean more to win in Edmonton or in Toronto as one of the key figures of the Toronto freaking Maple Leafs and there's just no debate that he would say that the Toronto Maple Leafs now. Yeah, you get him out, you get him out at Muskoka Bay Club and you had like, you know, three or four Coors lights and you start to ask him questions about where he'd actually like to play. I'm telling you right now what the answer's going to be. So when you become a professional athlete, some of your like childhood beliefs do start to fade away, right? Like you get into the machine of pro sports and it becomes more of a job and you don't, you know, the blue and white doesn't mean the same as when you were 14 years old, but part of it still exists. No question. Yeah, you just can't kill that part of the human psyche. So yeah, if I'm an Oilers fan, I'm probably not ecstatic. Yes, it's really not great. So I, as soon as like I said, dry settle signing, you know, that probably ends our fun here. But until that happens, boy, are we going to have fun. And I, you know, it's one of those things, Oilers fans, they are defensive about it. Yeah. And they are scared about it. And they do that projection. I understand that too. Yes. It's like why of all the guys, Connor or David has, and like, to have them in Arizona for a few, like it's been a long time relationship that these guys have been friends. That's true. No, that's true. Yeah. Some of the off-season workout stuff has been in Arizona. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not always in Toronto. No, they're, they are friends. So obviously, must have been on its wedding. Yeah, obviously. So I just, I really, this is one of my favorite things to do. And one of my favorite things to talk about is just, you know, that's what makes hockey fandom in Canada great is getting after each other for like certain things. And this is one thing that Lee fans can just say to Oilers fans that absolutely, and it's like, oh, Matthew's going to leave. Matthew's going to leave. Well, you just signed a four-year contract. So we have four more years of that, at least so. At least four more years. Oh, he's going to Phoenix. Well, guess what? Phoenix doesn't exist anymore. So take that one, buddy. Take that. Take your Photoshop and throw it in the trash. Are we, as like taking picture of people at restaurants that become more acceptable in the city of Toronto? Because we had the Craig Baroubae Mitch Marner thing. It doesn't feel like we've had an off-season. What's a more impactful dinner, Craig Baroubae and Mitch Marner are awesome Matthews and Connor McDavid. Well, at least Connor McDavid, awesome, Matthew, you can put your mind in a spot where it's like, yeah, we're just, we're actually not talking about hockey. Yeah. Craig Baroubae Mitch Marner. That's 100%. They're talking about hockey. Yes. And it's always funny to be like, well, how will Mitch Marner and Craig Baroubae get along? Craig Baroubae is probably going to love Mitch Marner. Yeah. He's like a 100-point winger who plays excellent defense, kills penalties, like, yeah, he's going to be fine with Marner. I don't think he need to worry about that. Yeah, he will be fine. Yeah. All right. Time now for the Canadian Football Report brought to you by Securian Canada, the official life insurance partner of the CFL Week 13 starting on Saturday with a homecoming for Nathan Roark as he came to Victoria and could not have gone any better, throwing over 300 yards, scoring four touchdowns, three in the air, one on the ground, as the BC lines win 38-12 over the red blacks in the first ever touchdown Pacific game, red blacks, seven, three and one on the season, Leo, six and six. Sunday night, Winnipeg blue bombers beating the Saskatchewan Rough Riders, moving into first in the West, bombers held off a late-game surge from the riders for the 35-33 win despite not having their starting quarterback Zach Caleros in the game for the second half. Winnipeg is the same record as BC at six and six, but the bombers have already won the head-to-head series this season, so they are first in the West. Riders behind both those teams at five and six. Monday, Bolivai Mitchell keeping his career unbeaten record on Labor Day perfect. He is now 7-0 on this holiday. He led the Tycats to a 31-28 win over the Argos at Tim Hortons Field. Mitchell threw for 347 yards, couple of touch on both to Tim White, who tallied 180 yards on the day, Argos falling to six and five on the season Tycats, three and nine. Standings in the East stay the same with Montreal at the top followed by Ottawa, then Toronto still last is Hamilton. The Edmonton Alex keeping their postseason dreams alive with a 35-20 win over the Calgary Stampeders closing out week 13. Edmonton last in the West, but they continue to make a push. Now stand at four and eight on the year, just slightly behind the stamps at four and seven on the season. That was the Canadian Football Report brought to you by Securian Canada, the official life insurance partner of the CFL. When we come back, Ken Rosenthal talking about how a bunch of underperforming teams are going to keep the status quo in the front office, pictured, Ross Atkins, Mark Shapiro. Well, that's just great. That more next is the fan morning show continues. Ben Ennis, Sam McKee, Sportsnet 590, the fan.
