(upbeat music) - Rough when your highlight is a pitch timer walk. - Fan morning shows, sports net 590, the fan, Ben Ennis. Sam McKee getting up early today, tomorrow, and you're in next week, too, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - We're only doing a zoo like that. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You need a better noise than that. - You asked me how I am, and I said, I'm here. - Yeah, pretty good. - I'm just here so I don't get fine, brother. I'm just here. - When we have a new co-host and a villain co-host on the Fan Morning Show, I must say, I do look at the clock and the proximity to six o'clock. - Oh, yeah, I'm very close. - Because, you know, it's one thing to be on a routine of waking up in the four o'clock hour. It's quite another to be like, oh, well. - Today's that day, I got a four ten o'clock AM, yes. - Good for you, you're here, like 10 minutes ago. - I, there's something that I am very proud of in my life. And that's that, I'm always there. If I am committed to something, I show up. - Good for you. - And, you know, when my boss committed me, Ryan Fabro committed me to this hell of waking up at four in the morning, I show up, okay? - Yeah, I may not be happy about it. - No. - I may not be thrilled. I may not be the most chipper, but I'm here. - You seem pretty chipper. - So here's what I want to, here's what I want to talk about. - 'Cause you broke something to me. Moments before we turned on these microphones. You're a usual co-host, friend of yours and mine, Brent Cunningham. - Yes. - The reason he is not here today is because he attended the Sean Paul concert last night. - Yeah, that's correct. So, naturally, I mean, didn't want to come in on limited hour sleep after partying all night, rocking up to Sean Paul, was his wife. And then, yeah, took tomorrow off as well. - Like, how far down the list of concerts is Sean Paul that you would go to? - Oh, it's not, like, yeah, given three tickets. - Like, I like the one song. - I couldn't tell you the one. - The one, it's like, I'm not gonna sing it, but all we all know, the one. - Give me the something-- - Just give me the love, the love, the love, the love. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - I don't know, okay? (laughing) - Dude, I did do. - Thank you. - Yeah, where you know the chorus is, Dude, I do. - I do, you know, like, a 1950s do our sound. (laughing) Here we are. I mean, did you have an opportunity to go to the concert? - Well, my wife was going with a couple of her girlfriend. She's like, "Would you have any?" And she's like, "No." (laughing) I drove her. Like, a good husband, I drove her down there, but I didn't want to attend the concert. - Yeah. - Yeah, it's horrible, it's horrible. - Where was it? So like-- - Like, backstage. - Okay, see, that's surprising to me that Sean Paul would have that kind of, you know, a following that he could sell out, I assume, Budweiser stage. - Well, I mean, he was, I think he's spent a lot of time in Toronto, like, he's born in Jamaica, but I think he, like, came up in Toronto, if I'm not mistaken, I don't know if-- - You're looking on the other side. - You're like, somebody-- - Please give me some-- - Sean Paul information. - So this is text from my wonderful wife, Ali. She text me a picture of the stage from the lawns. Looks like a very Budweiser stage. And she said, "Sean Paul is tired." And it's song four. And then I said, "Well, he's getting up there." And she's like, "It's really bad, LOL." (laughing) - Like, he's getting tired. - Like, he's tired. Like, he's running out of steam and it was a forced song in the night. - Oh, that's rough, that's rough. - I better miss the day I heard to watch old bag of bones, Sean Paul. - Well, that-- - Just give me the lah, the button, ooh. - So I just saw no effects. - Yeah, I heard. - What was that? That was last week, last Monday. - Yeah. - No, last Sunday. And they're getting up there. - Yeah. - But the thing is, the music they play is like kind of pumping, right? Like, you get the adrenaline flowing, I'm sure, right? Like, when you're 58-year-old fat, Mike. - Yes. - Eventually, you get into the thing and it's, "Oh, you play an exciting brand "of music that requires energy." - Gets everybody horned up. - But yeah, Sean Paul, if he's at an advanced age and maybe, you know, missed a coffee or two during the day, like, his music probably does put himself to sleep. - Yeah, he's getting a little tired of that. - That's rough. - Well, so you're not playing an instrument, you're just like, kind of like, singing it. (both laughing) - Yeah, I don't know how he stays awake at all. - I don't know. Anyways, I've been to a concert all year, I don't think, but I wouldn't go to that one. - Yeah, you are a music guy though, that is surprising. - Listen. Stone Temple Pilots in live next month. - Couldn't name one of those songs. - Really? - No. - Oh, live was a formative band for me. - No, Stone Temple Pilots? - No, I don't know anything. - Okay. - I don't know anything. - So Lady Peace is playing as well. - So we're dancing on the most important thing in the world, okay? And this is something that's consumed me for the past four or five days. This is the OASIS reunion. And I know we're gonna talk about this later, but it's all I could think about, Ben. I was a huge, huge OASIS fan in high school. I loved, you know, they're just, like you said, they're a very formative band for me. My sister loved them, I love them. And I've kind of just completely fallen out of touch with them over the last 15 years. Like I just-- - Well, they've fallen in touch with each other. I mean, you don't listen to them anymore? - I listen to their albums so much all through high school. And like I was very familiar with it and all that stuff. - Oh, I see now you're back on a binge. - And now, like, the news came out. - Yeah. - And I'm like watching documentaries. I'm like listening to this, thisography. I'm like, what an incredible band. - They are incredible. - What an incredible band. And I just, I'm taking in all the content and watching all the videos, at least two guys hating each other. - Oh. - I'm very, very, very excited for like all the stuff that's gonna come with this announcement. - Well, we all we know is about like their European dates, but not even their European dates. It's all like English dates, right? - And of course, you're like, well, not being at Glastonbury, it's our thing. We're doing it. It's like the world tour. It's like how far into this world tour are you making this? - I am. - Like over under four and a half shows, are we making it? Like, that's what I wanna know. - And everybody has that same opinion. But you would think like after ginning up all this interest and it's been so long, 15 years, that there's like a commitment here too, at least fulfilling your contractual obligation. Because we're talking about like, it's one of the most anticipated reunions, I mean, in recent music history. - Yeah, like they are a massive, massive. - This isn't a Fuji's thing. I don't know if you've seen like the Fuji's have tried to like reunite and they've canceled a bunch of shows. This is like, this is going to be one of the biggest tours in the history of music. Like this is a huge huge tour. - Big deal. - So I mean, they must just, they're mad as hell at each other all the time. But they gotta be more mad at the amount of money they've thrown away in the past 30 years. - Yeah. - Like think about just the amount of times that they've hated each other, not toured like the millions and millions and tens of millions of dollars they've thrown away. They're like, okay, maybe we can pretend to like each other for a year and maybe make some of this money back. And I think one of them's going through a divorce potentially. - Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe. - Maybe, maybe. - Maybe, maybe, maybe. (laughing) - I had to play this song. - Wow. - Have you seen the Eagles documentary? - Yes. - Oh my God, that's a little electric, right? - Yes. - Like those guys kept touring and they, you know, they were filtering in some new members because there was money to be made there. - Yes, they need it. - Yeah. - Anyways, we'll talk more about that at the end of that. - By the way. - Good job by you. - Thank you. - Trying to avoid talking about the Blue Jays like the flag. - Oh my God. - And a two hour and five minute game. - Perfect. That was a sleep by 915. It is hat tipping season again. It's fine if it's a one off, right? - Yeah. - Like there was a run of games there before the deadline, before the infusion of youth with this Blue Jays team where they traded away the Justin Turner's and the Isaiah Connor Fallefas that it was like, "Hey, you got to tip your cap. Like we're teaming day in, day out." This is a team that just had a 16 game streak where they had at least a home run in each of those games which was the longest act of streak in Major League Baseball. And actually, like over the last two weeks, been one of the more explosive offensive teams in baseball. Now, caveat, they fight some really crappy teams over there. - Crappy teams are crappy pitchers. - Oh my God. - Yeah. - And we're, like I keep saying, we're out of Angels games, right? Like seven games against the Angels in which you want all of them, there's no more Angels in front of you. In fact, there's teams battling for playoff spots and there's good teams beyond the Red Sox. - Yeah. Now I'm actually, but this is to me, we're heading into a more interesting, like, yeah, because it's fun to watch them beat up on the woeful Angels. - Yeah. - Like my God, I remember you and JD used to do like the irrelevant franchises rankings, like Angels are way up that way. - Oh my God. - They are a horrible franchise with a horrible team with no future, no help. Anyways, don't need to get too deep into that. They're only good players as he hates baseball, Anthony Rendon, like they're just a really, really ugly franchise, but I'm actually interested in watching these J's now start to play against some good teams. Because they got the twins coming up here, right? - Yeah. - They actually have like their schedules freshening up a bit, which will be nice because you're playing the Red Sox who I guess are kind of like decent, like they're above 500 somehow. Their offense is good. Their pitching's not good. Their defense is borderline like it's, it's looking swansy softball, that's good. They're putting it around at all times. - I mean, they took advantage of a deflected ball off the first baseman's glove to Tristan Cassis yesterday. I mean, somehow they avoided an error yesterday, but yeah, that's a team that I'm not exactly sure why they wear gloves. - Yeah, no, they just booted around like that. The game, not last name, but the game before was like actually comical, how bad they were defensively. But yeah, no, I'm interested to see them go against some actual good competition coming up here with the twins. So we'll see. But yeah, last night, I thought Bayo is actually really good. I thought it was locating really nicely that on last night was very helpful on the outside edges. - Sure. - On both side to both left and right pitchers, Chris Bassett asked him about it. There's one that Bassett got on the outside corner to, I forget who it was to a righty, where it was legitimately, you know, four inches off the outside of the plate, the umpiring wasn't very good. But yeah, tip your caps, he's, and I actually will hear it because the Blue Jays offense has been so good. - Yeah, and that's been good. And Bayo was really good. - Yes. - Like you just watched the game and you can tell that he was good. And despite the inflated ERA, like he's been one of their highly touted pitching prospects. And he's had some moments, in fact, he's carved up the Blue Jays before. And he's already standing on like pitchers, duels and baseball as an entity, right? Like it's, you know, the time of game has been reduced so much with the pitch clock that, yeah, okay, 205 is an anomaly. But yeah. - Especially at Fenway. - Holy cow. So I tweeted out like kind of ingest, was that the shortest game ever played at Fenway Park? And I got a response immediately. That's the shortest game in Fenway Park and since integration, which I was like, that's amazing. But like, believable. Wait, no, that was incorrect. - That was too strong. - No, it's not wrong. It's like the seventh shortest since the wildcard era, though, which is like still pretty impressive. But not that this shortest is integration. - The seventh. - Yeah. Well, but 205 is Fenway Park, yeah, against the reds, not just against the redsocks who have had some great offenses over the last 20 plus years, but in that ballpark where I think anybody that's watched baseball knows that there's no leads safe there. - You've had some hopes and dreams go to die at that part. - Yeah. Relief pitching has been victimized by the green monster in left field. But anyways, yeah, where do you stand on like pitchers duel? Because, you know, in hockey, you know, the NHL has promoted offense. And people love a 6'5" game, I suppose. You can have a great 1-0 hockey game. - For sure. - And you can have a great 1-0 baseball game. Was that a great 1-0 baseball game? - I would much rather have a 6'5" slobber knock or going back and forth in both sports. But like I think there is, you know, pitching is clearly a very important part of the game. And when you have a guy that deals like that, it is enjoyable to watch. And I thought Basset last night, who I said had texted about how I wasn't a huge fan of in the first inning after he loaded them up. - Yeah, I mean, I'll stick to that. Not a huge fan of him. But I think what he did Basset was fun to watch. I thought what Bayo did was fun to watch. When you have guys doing stuff at an elite level in any sport, it's great. And I thought both of the pitchers were at that level. You know, we can have a conversation about Brendan Little coming in and serving up immediately. I wouldn't say he was at an elite level, but yeah, I do enjoy a pitcher's duel. I do enjoy a game. Like it feels like you get into a good rhythm. Like that was a nice fast game, like 205 is crazy. That's way faster than normal. But like even with the pitch clock and if you get a game that's like 230 with two pitchers going back and forth, it is an enjoyable product for sure. But you want to see the home team win. I think it's nice when you got like a couple of eases going at it. And Brian Bayo could eventually be that. I don't think anybody has any illusions as to what Chris Basset is at this point in his career. And I made apparently some adjustment was like more on the third base side of the rubber yesterday. Blah, blah, blah. You know, his FIP. I know you're a big FIP guy. His FIP is actually lower this season than it was a year ago, where he was getting American League down ballot, down ballot, Cy Young award votes. But why do you, why do you dislike the Chris Basset? >> Okay, the first things like the podcast stuff earlier, I was just, I didn't love what he was going on there. >> He's right. >> Like he's right. He's right. And we want to run a lot of athletes to be honest. But like just going on that podcast, running his mouth in a law season, I didn't love. I'm sure he's talked about that a ton with his teammates and all that. I didn't love that. Didn't love the dome thing. >> Yeah. The dome thing was rough. >> Did you love the dome thing? >> There's no question. >> I'm talking about like, yeah, the roof being closed. >> Wow. >> Acting new. >> One of the worst teams of baseball is like hitting nukes off of you. I didn't, I didn't love that. I just don't think he's a particularly aesthetically pleasing pitcher to watch. >> Oh really? See, I disagree on that. >> It's just like, you know, he's squirming up there. He's always pissed off. He's like fizzing with his belt with the pitch clock all through the pitch, what's it called through the pitch tech I can't even speak? What's it called? The thing. The pitch call. Thank you, pitch call. Thanks for the help there. The pitch call. He just always looks pissed off. He's flinging it up there. He's got a thousand different pitches. >> I know. >> To me, you're starting to most aesthetically pleasing. Feel like he's hanging everything. >> To me, in a world in which everybody's just throwing 99 trying to gas the people, that he's more, he's a, the professor, right? >> I guess. >> I don't know. He has to do it with guts and guile and figuring things out on the fly, like going to the third based side of the rubber, even in game, reading swings. >> I will look back. I will not look back on the crisp bass at era with the Charles Blue Jays with a ton of fondness. >> Well, that's just say that. >> Okay. >> Well, that's just an incorrect take. That's all right. >> Well, he's fine. Like he was a good pitch last year. He was very good. He was clearly excellent. I think he was in the weirdest stat ever in wins, one that we've ever talked about. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. He had 16 wins last year. >> Actually, that's just a sidebar here, my ADD brain. Has there ever been a stat that has been more devalued than wins in the history of sports? Like, I used to know like RBIs, we still pay attention when a guy gets to 100, even batting average. >> We're paying attention when Louis arises, threatening 400, but like wins, I actually could not tell you one guy who's in the lead of wins in baseball. >> Correct. >> But I could not tell you one guy. >> No. >> So, anyways, that's just my sidebar. >> Yeah, no, crisp bass has been good. He's been a good Blue Jays. He was really good last year, but I just, I don't know. I don't love it. I don't love the crisp bass experience of being honest with you, buddy. I don't know what to tell you. >> I appreciate the honesty. >> Thank you. >> I don't think that's going to be the first time. >> You're allowed to have a wrong opinion. >> Wouldn't be the first time. >> Cris Bassett took the loss. He has 13 losses. His record is 9 and 13. Honestly, yeah, I don't, I can't tell you I've ever even this season looked at a pitcher's win loss record that the Blue Jays had. Like, I do know that Cris Bassett led the American League was 16 wins a season ago. So, this is a question I'm going to ask Ben Nicholson-Smith later on in the program. So, some of the young players have looked good at times, right? Again, this is opponent dependent. They just played 16 straight games before this Red Sox series against sub 500 opponents, okay? And there were some teams that were threatening 500 and the Cubs in there and the Reds, I suppose. But they're all- >> They'd be playing a lot of like sorta crappy teams. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> And they went 16 and 10 over that span, but they went 7 and 0 against the Angels, right? >> Yeah. >> Like that's not so. >> Okay, so here are the guys that are going to factor in to next season for sure, right? That are going to be on the opening day roster and in the opening day lineup in 2025. George Springer, Dalton Varshow, Vladimir Guerrero Jr., Boba Shett, but he's not here. I think we're at the point where Spencer Horowitz is probably if they're facing a righty. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> If they're facing a righty, he's going to be playing second base. >> Not an everyday guy. >> No, but he's going to be on the roster. >> For sure. So, Alejandro Kirk, and is there anybody else? >> Yeah, I think Clement. >> Okay, but he's not, I don't think you're in a great spot if Ernie Clement and Spencer Horowitz are in the opening day lineup. >> Yeah, maybe you're right. I think I would rather have Clement that I would horror wits if I had to choose a next year's team. >> I don't know. >> It's close. It's close for me. I really like what I've seen from Clement this year and I just think he's kind of like maybe not as a starting guy. He's a 25th, 24th guy like a guy that you can use off the bench or whatever. Spencer Horowitz clearly has a, he's a different style of hitter and he's your style of guy where he's got a great eye at the dish, takes more walks. >> Yes. >> He's a left-handed power. I get it. I understand when he hit, well, power may be a little bit strong with him. But I think I think I've seen enough from Clement this year where he can be a contributor to the team. >> Yeah, he'll be on the, and also he's out of options. >> Yes. >> So, yeah, if he's not on your team, he's on somebody else's because clearly what he's done this season is- >> He's a majorly caliber player. >> I've such a hard time with this time of year. >> Yeah. >> I just really do with like evaluating for next year because I don't know if any of these guys are going to be like any good. >> There's not enough time for them to prove that there were the of being a contributor in 2025 when you're trying to win again. >> And I just have Davis Schneider rattling around in the back of my head where it was, they were a good team last year, well, good-ish team last year, they made a call to you last year. He was the only guy that could get a hit in any big spot at any point and this year he's unplayable. >> Yep. >> So, I hate this time of year because I get tantalized by these guys in these meaningless games. And I've definitely been tantalized by Spencer Horowitz and I've liked what I've seen. But would I be surprised next year if he was not very good? So it's just, I just feel like Clement, the hit tool and all this stuff with him making contact and they're showing all this stuff on the broadcast the other night with his rate of making contact and all that stuff. I just feel like it plays a little bit more and that he's more of a sure thing maybe. >> Well, and he's an elite defender too, it's more of a different position. >> I liked him a lot. I really like what I've seen from Bernie Clement this year and he's older guys, I think, like 28, 29. He's not as young as you think he is. These young J's that are all like 25. >> Yeah. >> But I just- >> That's the life of a major baseball player. >> I guess you're right. >> Like Bowden, France is starting tonight. So I'm like getting his career underway, he's also 28 years old. >> I know, so I really want to say that Horowitz will be a big contributor next year. I want to say that Ernie Clement will be a big contributor next year. But the start of the season they can both stink and they don't know if they'll be on the roster. >> There are so many holes to fill though on this blue J's team. So like you got to take one hole and say, okay, at least like one of Ernie Clement will Wagner, somebody, Ernie Clement can fill one position, whether that's second base or third base. But yeah, I think specifically we're talking about second base. One of the guys I thought would factor in and still think will factor in eventually with this blue J's team, Jake Bloss, started yesterday. And Buffalo made his third start for the Bisons. First two had gone really well. He hadn't allowed a run, now it wasn't striking everybody out, but and the pitch count was very low. Like he's being babied here. >> Yeah, it was like one and two thirds, three and four before last night, is that right? >> Yeah, I was looking at it. He had three starts with the Bisons before yesterday start. Yeah, he went two and two thirds, four innings, three innings, hadn't allowed a run and struck out at least a couple in each of those starts throwing a maximum of 62 pitches. >> That would happen last night Ben. >> And not so good. He gave up eight or runs, giving up or giving up eight or runs, getting just five outs three or he at home runs, the walks were an issue for him as well as he walked a couple. But apparently like the just the command of the fastball was all over the place. So he was the prize prospect, the blue J's got in return for USA Kikuchi at the deadline. He was the shining beak and despite the fact that the other guys that were in the Major Leagues, one of them, Johnson and Class A who's in Buffalo was also in the Major Leagues for the Mariners when they acquired him. Of course Joey Lo Perfido and now they got Will Wagner who is, he's showing signs of life here in his first kick of the can. >> Earlier signs of life and then the one boss in game where he was good, he was good but other than that, it's been a while, you have a short memory and that was two games ago. He literally just had his first home run of his career. >> They went to a little bit of a adultrum before that game, adultrum. Two doubles and then Fertissen had his first home run and it was against the left, the end of the bullpen and right, he was halfway parked. >> That was a great job, that's right. >> That was two days ago, anyways, what are you covering lately? Jake Bloss was the only guy that was in some top 100 prospects list, now not all of them, but like he was a guy that was in there and he had pitched to the Major Leagues, he made three starts with the Astros to middling to poor results. That was the worst start he's had at any level this season, to make sense, Adrian runs over an inning 2-3. >> Yeah, I hope there's not many worse now. Do you need to see him this season and has the performance of those other guys and the fact honestly, so Bound Francis said starting tonight, this is a guy that was an American league pitcher of the week and that was before he almost threw a no hitter again against the Angels. >> I guess the Angels. >> Like, Kevin Ward was right. >> Yeah. >> So, it's like, if we didn't suck so badly, we'd have definitely been able to hit that guy. >> Yeah, and that's the one guy that got a hit off him, so yeah, it makes sense. But yeah, has that taken some of the pressure off Jake Bloss? Because I'm shocked to feel the way that I do as rosters are about to expand here where it's like, yeah, I don't need to see Jake Bloss. >> Yeah, I think I was like a fan you'd like to have a look, but I don't think you really need to, right? Like, I think when all these guys for for Atkins PR, I'm sure he would like to have all these guys up here and playing well. Like, I think what you've seen from Wagner, what you've seen from Loper Fido, what you've seen if you could get Jake Bloss up here, if you could get Class A up here and contribute, I think it would help Atkins PR or whatever, but like, I don't think that Jay's really need to see it. Like, I think you want to, especially after that start, but yeah, I think you have enough arms. I think you have enough capable arms that you don't need to bring up a guy that's going to pitch three innings for you a couple of times down the stretch here. Just give those starts to somebody else. It's like Ryan Bird do them, let him work it out down there like selfishly I'd like to see him, but like from an organizational standpoint, I don't think there's any point to bring him up. I really don't. A lot of holes to fill on this budget team for 2025. The rotation isn't one of them, right? They actually have it barring injury. Sometimes when you think about the aerial Rodriguez, yeah, but I mean, he's fading big time. I mean, he had a bad start. He's been up and down. And yes, has not like he's running at a steam to me. Possibly. Yeah. I mean, there's a guy that didn't pitch at all. No, he's so tired. He's it's very possible that that's the case with the aerial Rodriguez, but if you factor him into the rotation for next season, the Blue Jays already have five starters, right? Because of the the top three of the rotations coming back and Bowden Francis. I mean, the sample continues to grow with him and it's not like this was out of nowhere either. He's tough place. Like he's got good stuff. Like it's like he can be a four fifth starter or a swing guy for you on a major league roster. Absolutely no question. Like it's tough place. Yeah. I mean, maybe there's another major league caliber starting pitcher that's acquired in the off season. That moves the aerial Rodriguez into like a bulk relief role. But I think whatever plays out this off season, you're probably looking at Jake Bloss hoping that he's the ace of your staff in Buffalo, that he's your guy. He's your sixth starter. He's depth for once. Yes. He's a guy that you're like not pulling a guy up from Buffalo. They're like, Oh, Jesus, we have no chance. Right. He's no Paolo Espino. Right. Boy. Yeah, exactly. Like you're looking for, I mean, that's what it's been the the the bit one of the biggest detriments to the Blue Jays organization is just that they haven't been able to build up any depth with the arms. All the guys that they've drafted are just their elbows have exploded and they just haven't been able to have a consistent rotation at Buffalo or double away where they can pull from. It's just been a huge issue. So if they could get Jake Bloss to be the ace, like you said in Buffalo. Nice share. Injury happens. Get him pitching well there. You can call him up. You can use them. I think that's the ideal scenario. But like, I don't, I'm sure they will call him up. Wouldn't you think like with the with the Rogers Hispanic, how many is it two or three guys down? 48 man roster goes from 26 to 20. It's one position player, one pitch. Sure. Can we maybe find a middle ground? I guess. I'm 40. The entire Buffalo bison roster to two guys. Well, I mean, to me, the perfect compromise would have been, yeah, rosters expand to 40, but your your active roster remains the same. Like you can call everybody up, but you can day in day out. You can change your 26 man roster to include certain guys where it's not like because the old days were horrible with the 40 man roster. And you're like, Oh, well, just it'll take eight hours to play the game because we have all these pitchers. Why would we have anybody throw more than the 10 pitches? I remember the, the, the dugout would look like the exhibition on a Saturday night. It was crazy. I think ultimately in a perfect scenario, and I'll, I'll play out my perfect scenario for the Blue Jays in this offseason after seven o'clock, but in a perfect scenario, not only is Jake Bloss, the guy that's in Buffalo and hopefully pitching well, that if there is a problem with a major league caliber arm that you you're like excited to come pull from a guy that actually like got some pedigree. Yeah, you're not like who Paulo Espino, I had that 30 year old guy who's been around the block. He got a hundred years. Here comes another job. Well, and I think the perfect scenario is also that those guys that we're watching play every day now, the Joey Loper Fidos, the Will Wagner's, the Addison barges of the world are doing the same thing agreed where it's like, okay, they, they haven't done enough to deserve every day playing time. But if somebody goes down with an injury, you're like, Oh, okay, well, this is a known quantity here. And maybe there is, maybe this is the opportunity for this player to take a starting job and run with it. You're not devastated to have some, again, journeyman, quad a player down there. Well, that's, I mean, that's kind of what happened, we banked on David Schneider coming back this year and they, he was a huge part of it and it just didn't work out. Right? So it's like, I mean, I was keep, you know, picking on David Schneider, but it's just been so bad this year, I just, I think what you've laid out there is perfect. And I would really, really like to have Loper Fidos start next year in the minors, same with Will, same with Will Wagner, same with Addison barges for all those guys. But like, I really like what I've seen from Addison barges in the third time up here. Yeah. Yeah. Yesterday, he, I mean, he had one of the best played appearances of a blue J for sure. For sure. For sure. I just, I really, and he took a three pitch walk. Apparently. Yes. Yeah. Like what I've seen from him in his third stint, Loper Fidos made a great adjustment. Like what I've seen from him in the last couple of weeks. Will Wagner, who I was hard on, you know, he, he had a few bad games before he had the game of his life where he hit this first home run, anyway, park. Yeah. But yeah, like, I don't want to go in the next year, we're like, Oh, can Loper Fidos, like, I want these guys to be call ups. I want these guys to be not regular contributors. And if the front office and ownership is serious about contending in 2025, they have to agree. They have to go out there and try to find guys, because it can't be the same as this yet. I would think. Right? I would think there's no more Isaiah kind of Folefas, Kevin Kearmeyer, Justin Turner is walking through that door. You would think. You'd think boy, like, it's amazing they got any, but thing for any of those guys. Yeah. Yeah. And has that, like, has your perception as the, the Ross Atkins feelings changed at all since they've gotten hot? Or is you just the same spot? No, I think I'm at the same spot here. Because yeah, now you do have Jake Bloss as a thing in your triple A rotation, but he's right. Look at the one guy. Thing. And part of it is, like, out of your control, I suppose, with the injuries. And they've suffered a bunch of pitching injuries, but I think Ben Nicholson Smith did a great job earlier this year when he dug out the quote from Mark Shapiro at the conclusion of the Alex Antopoulos era, talking about, hey, you can't get a guy in here. We got five who don't know. I don't know. Yeah. You're a rotation in Buffalo, fast forward to nine years later, two straight seasons. Yeah. And you're in the same spot. Plus you have no postseason success and you have no division titles. So yeah, no, it's, it's, it's, it's nice. It's more exciting certainly than watching the Justin Turner's of the world on their last legs to see at least the possibility of a home run, which exists and Joey Loper Fido somehow having a better season with the blue Jays than he had with the Astros after his insanely horrible start. Oh my God. The text I sent to you about, he was, he was hopeless, like truly hopeless. I can't believe he righted the ship as quickly as he did. But that's baseball for you. Well, they have 70 pitch hitting coaches. So you would hope that he would figure talk to the right one. He just eventually moved down the line and found the guy. Which is the guy that's in charge. Yeah. It like hasn't, since this hot streak hasn't badly like been away. Is that true? I think he got shoulder surgery or something. Like I said, I think I read that and it's bad because he has, like he hasn't been in the dugout. That's rough. I mean, that's going to be an interesting storyline this off season. Like what do they do with the myriad of coaching coaches? Yeah. What do they do with everything and managing? I mean, what do they do with Mark Shapiro who has one year left on his deal and he probably not too interested in going into a year as a lame duck president considering all he's done outside of the baseball stuff legroom. There is. Buddy, you've been to the ballpark. It's not like I'm like everyone can hate on me for being a shell, but the leg room at the no. No. Oh, thank you, baby. Nobody's going to hate on you if they've been to a thank you, Marky for the leg room. Yeah. It's incredible. It's a tall man. It's a little stunk. And then he put in the leg room and it's like, Oh my God, I can spread the dogs out if there's nothing better. All right. Good job. Thank you. All right. Well, we come back. You mentioned it. Oasis getting back together for the first time in 15 years. Who would you like to see reunited in the sports world? That's next as the fan morning show continues. Ben and a Samiki Sportsnet 590 the fan. Everything you need to know about the Blue Jays, Blair and Barker, be sure to subscribe and download the show on Apple Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, yeah, I guess we're not supposed to talk with the music at the top, but I mean, you can. I guess. I guess people were listening to Oasis right now. I hate this song. Really? Yeah. This is wonderful. All right. Yeah. I hate it. I can't stand it. I like it's at the point now where I hear it and I'm just like, I get like, I physically recoil champagne supernova where you all know. I love that song. Okay. It's just this one. It's just because you sounded like you were just a contrarian where you're like, no, no, no, no. I just I don't like the I like the B side. It's okay. I'm the. I like the depth of catalog. I used to try to be that guy so hard and I quit that. I quit that. Quit that stuff. I used to try to be I used to try to be such a music hipster and I look back in my days of just being embarrassing for you, meaning to people about like stuff they liked and I just it makes me sick. I mean, if you went to a one of these Oasis concerts, again, they are reuniting for the first time in 15 years, Liam and Noel, you're going to keep it together seems as they're expanding their tour already in Europe. We don't have any any tour dates outside of Europe. Yeah. You saw that like thing that came out it was like the graph not the graph was like a list of all the places that they were going to play was like in an Excel spreadsheet. No, it was like a leaked tour thing. Oh, yeah. And it had multiple different dates, but it had Toronto as one of them at downs you was one thing. Oh, wow. But that was a completely. Who knows? Who knows? It was all hearsay when stuff was coming out. So okay. That would be exciting. Yeah. Come on. If they're playing Wonderwall at the concert, I'll sing it. I'll sing it if I go because I can't afford it, but I I'm not daddy Warbucks, so I can't go to the concert. Well, there's a couple of things that you should, you know, throw stupid amounts of money at because it's a once in a lifetime experience. I mentioned the other day that I put myself on the email list to be notified when World Cup tickets become available. 2026. We have the World Cup. Yes, we in the city of Toronto where like Canada's not irrelevant. You can go see Saudi Arabia, Korea, BMO field. No, but I want to go see Canada. We're not going to come here. They're going to play in Vancouver. There's no shot they give give us. But have you been to BMO field recently? Yeah. It's hard getting another for an Aragulist game. Yeah. But hey, they know what's happening in 2026. They're expanding the gardener. Oh, great. Great. And you know, for those, whatever, two weeks and then in the way back to. Oh, so they're there. Oh, yeah. Literally there. If it's not done, they're going to temporarily re-open the lanes of the gardener. That'll make you happy. But Oasis is not so much a part of your musical experience that you would throw stupid money at a once in a lifetime experience. And it feels like once in a lifetime. Send me the number. Okay. Well, I can just. How much do you think? I think if it's a down to you park, what would a ticket be? It's like we're approaching four digits here, right? Don't you think? A down to you park. Have you seen what concert tickets go for? Yeah. I guess. I'm not going to compare it to Taylor Swift. Yeah. It's obscene. It's obscene. Right. But there is and there's higher capacity. I would think in Downsview, then there would be at Rogers Center. So you want to hear a quick Taylor Swift story? Yeah. It's to do with concert ticket prices. Uh huh. A guy in my softball team, a wonderful guy, Chris. He won tickets to Taylor Swift at Rogers Center. Mm. Floor tickets. No. He sold those tickets. Oh. He took him and his daughter went to, I think, went to Germany to see Taylor Swift. With the money. Yeah, of course. And went to the Olympics. Oh my God. That weren't Paris for a week. Oh my God. With the money that he made from the four tickets at the Rogers Center. No kidding. Yes. So there you go. That ticket price is for you. Anyways. Yeah. Okay. So would you pay a thousand dollars to go see a Downsview? Probably. Okay. I probably would. It's a kind of ghost counter. It goes counter to everything you just said that you weren't adding war bucks. Thousands a lot. You think? Maybe. Yeah. I don't know. Push comes a shove I might. I might. I'd have to see how I feel that moment. But like, and I think back in 15 years, what I'm going to be thinking about, the time I saw Oasis or that thousand bucks, like I always think about that, right? Especially with, you know, some golf rounds I've played in the last 10 years where I'm like, wow, that was stupid. But then you think back about the round, you don't think about the money you spent. But anyways, I think a thousand's high, maybe maybe 700 might be my cat, 500 might be my cat. But we don't, I mean, I'll have to see. It gets to a point where it's like, you think you can't get a Downsview Park cake at a ticket for 500 bucks? Like, if it's that, if it's that Scotia Bank arena, you're not getting in there for less than 2,500 bucks. Like that's, it's insane. Yeah. But I mean, how many, it's like a hundred thousand people. It's like Sarsstalk. Yeah. Were you at Sarsstalk? I was. Yeah. It was. My mom and I went. Good for you. Yeah. I worked for-- She's not getting special brownies. I saw them up. I worked for the town of Oakville at the time and everybody took the day off to go and I was like, I don't really care. I should. That's a big swing and a miss. Honestly, honestly, Rose, ACDC was great, but it was just hot. Yeah. Like, I'm glad I can say it was there. Did you throw a model at Justin Timberlake? I wasn't close enough, unfortunately. What if I was in that era? Anyways, Oasis! Yes! Returning for the first time in 15 years, reuniting a couple of fellas who are brothers who don't necessarily get along. It's partly appeal. Yeah. Who in the sports world would you like to have maybe not broken up or reunite? There's one obvious one that has to be the one-one pick. For Toronto Sports? Yes. In general. No, for Toronto Sports. I have one that maybe not the one-one pick. I mean, are you probably thinking Raptors? Yeah, 2019. Like, how, like, that we didn't get to see Kauai run it back at least one more year where he was relatively healthy, right? Yes. That was the Clippers' year where he actually played in the playoffs. Yeah. For them. And that was the bubble, right? Yeah. I mean, it was eventually, yeah, it was the bubble eventually. And where the Raptors almost went beat the Boston Celtics in that insane series in the bubble, that was actually like an incredible playoff series that kind of gets lost because of the weird bubbleness out of it? I mean, so the play of that series was obviously the Kyle Lowry to OG with what? Point three on the clock. Yeah. And that was to avoid going down three-nothing in the series, and then they come back in the series. So, yeah, that's why in that series it would have been really good. They almost won that series with Pascal Siakam as like an active negative. Yeah. He was horrible. Horrible, horrible, and it's hard to fault the guy who wasn't allowed to dribble a basketball for months. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, it's hard to fault them. I think 2019 is a easy one-one pick, but it's just the most obvious correct one. It's not the one that came to my mind first. Okay. What's the first? And it's not even the 2015 J's that I'm going to hear. Okay. It's the 2021 J's. Yeah. That's what I have number two. That's my dad to me is the one that I always look back on, and I think about a few things in that season. Mm-hmm. And I think about, was it Tyler Chatwood trying to close out games for them? Yeah. Early in that season. Yeah, I think of these dark dimly lit games and Dunedin that the bowl, the pen, was blown. That was Dunedin, yeah, right? Yeah, Dunedin and Buffalo. Yeah, right. And then eventually Toronto. And then when they came back to Toronto, they... Oh, George Springer fired a home run against the Red Sox. Yeah. I think that series was the same one where they had a nine run inning against the Red Sox. It was pre-pitch clock. I got home at like 12.30 at night. Like these games were crazy. That year was unbelievable. And they're just all the little moments throughout that season that lost them games. I mean, we don't need to pick on Simeon, but you think of that throw the first days from... Oh my God. I guess the Tigers. Yeah. They were up to one, and it was a throw for me to you away. Oh, it was the... 27th out. Yes. There's very few things where you can say, "Well, that is a loss." You'll throw out, what was he like, a three, four ball record for home runs in major league history hit by a second baseman. Unbelievable. Yes, there's very few things in sports where you can say, "Well, if this doesn't happen, the game is won." Where it's like, "Oh, it happened in the middle of the game." No, no, no. Sliding doors and that time continues. No, the first, it's over. It's over. That game. And the Blue Jays miss the playoffs by a single game. And I'd always think back to that. Was it Red Sox and Nationals? Yes. Oh, yes. Right? Where the Nats came back and then it was... You thought maybe... Yes. No. And then they ended up losing. Yes. Yes. Against the Yankees. Yep. Where they needed to win two out of three and ended up losing the series. The best. The best hundred were you. Had a rough go in one of those starts. The best regular season game I've ever been at for the Toronto Blue Jays was the Oakland days game where... Oh, with that. Oh, with that. We're sure you walked it off. The grand slam, the tight. Yep. Top of the ninth, Mark Cana takes Jordan Romano deep to make, give them a two run lead, bottom of the half. They bring in Sergio Romo for some reason. And he lights it up. That season was incredible for all the more, like, you know, to have them coming back after being gone and not being able to go to Blue Jays games and going there and having it be like your first crowd experience and the first shared experience. I don't remember my wife at the time, my wife is still up. She's only your wife now. She was not your wife at the time when they came back is what I meant to say. Words on the radio. She was crying because of, like, how powerful the moment was of everybody cheering and, like, all being back together. Like, it was incredible. That whole round was incredible. Oh, my God. Choked up. And they should have made the playoffs. And I truly believe that was a World Series team. Who didn't? Who didn't have the opinion that if this team gets in, look out. Yes. That was the number one opinion. And then they played the Orioles in that last series where they beat them, like, by 15 runs every game. God, that, for me, is my... I know the Raptors is obvious one-one, but that, for me, is my number one. Well, and it's because that one, you could have run back, right? And they did to a degree. And if you want to take it a step further, the 2022 Blue Jays should have been run back a little bit more than they were, right? They got their brains broken by one wildcard game. Yeah. They blew a lead against the Mariners in one of the most egregious postseason collapses in franchise history because the outfield defense was not ideal. It wasn't perfect. And they said, "Well, we got to improve that." You got a bit of everyone who's good. And yada, yada, yada, you know, a couple of years later, it's like, where are the home runs? 2022, they were really good stuff. Yes. They were really, really good. Well, it's amazing to reevaluate everything in hindsight, right? It's like, "Well, you know, 2023 wasn't so bad either. No, no, no, it was so bad." I never enjoyed it. It was so bad. I was stuck. Yes, there was, you know, like Matt Chapman, like the possibility of a home run existed there. Yes. And yeah, clearly everything in retrospect. Yeah. 2022 was very good. 2021, I think in the moment we understood how good it was. Also, at the end of the 2021 season, I mean, the part of the reason why people thought the Blue Jays were going to be this menace if they got to the postseason was because of the finish. Because August, it did look like they ran out of gas. Remember, there was a series against the Tigers. They lost two out of three at Rogers Center. Wasn't that where Semian bounced it in that series? 2-1 game. I think that was the, yes, was that that series or was it? No, yeah, that was the one in Detroit. They actually ended up winning the last two games of that series in August to win the series. And that was part of the returning to relevance, but they lost two out of three in late August to drop to just six games over 500. Then they went absolutely ham in September, 1999. And then, well, 22-9, if you can include the three games in the regular season, they played in October. Very good. Highlighted by that Oakland A's game, where it's an incredible, incredible comeback. Yeah, that's brutal, that we never got to see that one play out. This is, I have another submission, and this is what is more about the way I felt as opposed to the actual team. But in Matthew's rookie season, Leafs. And that playoffs where you went in and you have Brian Boyle, and he was just like, you know, like, the, you know, John Tavaro, but it was just like, it just, it felt different. Of course, but you could never feel that way. No, I know, but like, that's not because they were broken up, that's just because then the expectations. No, I know. I know it's broken up. But like, God, that year was the best year ever ugly fandom. And like, they took a, didn't the caps win the cup that year was the next year they won the cup, right? 2017, 2018, they won the cup, or was it 2016? 2017. Because, no, it was the year they went, they played Columbus in the first round, I remember this. Right. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they were on the verge of going down three nothing against Columbus. They win in overtime. Hope he didn't start that series and then, yeah, took over and then they end up beating the Penguins as well in the postseason. That feeling of having them all be kids and having them be like the whole, the whole air in overtime. The whole air ahead of you, it's just that feeling Anderson, though, in overtime. Yeah. Oh, he let him a bunch of bad goals. That is the ultimate sliding doors moment in the recent history of the franchise because okay, should they have beaten the president's trophy champions? Like probably not. But they could have. They could have easily five of the six games go to overtime, including dying to choke that series. That game where Anderson allows the was that Tom Wilson over time off the halfboards. Oh, it was like the worst goal ever. Horrifying. Yeah. I mean, to me, there's, there's one obvious. It's not a team that you wanted to run back, but a breakup with Zach Hyman. Oh, come on. Like, yeah, he's probably not scoring 54 goals, but you don't think he could could have scored 30. Hot soul. All guts. Just like exactly what the Leafs have needed for multiple season. Like, of course, he didn't score all in the playoffs when he was here and then the second one he goes. Yeah. He was shredded. Yeah. Yeah. And Bab still kept playing him at center. Yes. Anyways, he just kept getting beat like a drum by Patrice Bergeron in the center position with a torn up knee. Anyways. Yeah. That's a great one. That's a really good one. I think a really good breakup too early is TMac and invents. Yeah. Right. Like it was never going to really work out here. We all know like the situation, but we've all had the thoughts all had read on what it would have been like to have those two guys together for like their primes. Of course. Right. Like, you know, how it ended with events and clearly that's, you know, that's, we all don't need to go down that road. Mm hmm. But like having those two guys and one of the cousins or like they're related to some kind. Yeah. It just was like, Oh my God. This is unbelievable. They're both in the slam dunk comp. Oh my God. That era and like be, it was like hit me at the perfect time of being a kid. Of course. And the other one from that area is Koojo. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm kind of out for Koojo afterwards because you know, Dominic acid is better than him and yeti yada. Yeah. Anyways, I hit us up on the text line with your, your sports group or players that you wish had never broken up or could reunite time now for the Canadian football report brought to you by security in Canada, the official life insurance partner of the CFL Labor Day weekend and CFL crunch time kicking off Saturday with the touchdown Pacific game in Victoria between BC and Ottawa. The red blacks on a heater riding a six game winning streak. The Lions, they've gone ice cold losing five in a row, Nathan Roark has exactly looked like the Nathan Roark of old. He gets another chance to prove himself since the return from the NFL. He has 360 yards, three interceptions across two starts in his return to the CFL. This is a former most outstanding player in the league Sunday as the first two West Division Labor Day classics, first up it's Saskatchewan hosting Winnipeg, sitting at 04 and one in the last five rough riders barely holding on to first place in the West. The, the bombers now just a game under 500 after their horrible 0 and 4 start last week riders turn the ball over four times in their one point loss. The Argos have to be better against bombers defense that allows a league low 20 points per game. East fans making the trek to Tim Hortons Field as the tie cats host the Argos course Labor Day Classic wins have been scarce for Hamilton this season. Last week's lost may have been the worst yet came with just seconds left, making it five losses in a row for the tie cats Toronto plenty to feel good about, especially with the return of QB Chad Kelly, who you saw in the flesh. That resulted in a late win of their own last week against Saskatchewan. Of course, with the Miss Field goal Rouge walkoff Rouge, nothing like it goes the second all who has to match up a week 13 wrapping up on Monday, rested stamp team coming off there by welcoming an elk squad that had their three win, three game winning streak snap last week pivotal stretch for both the stamps and elks in their respective seasons Calgary sweep of the annual home and home series would propel them back into the playoff conversation would almost close out Edmonton's hopes Edmonton sweep would let them leapfrog their provincial rivals keep their postseason dreams alive after being the last team to get a win this season. And that was the Canadian football report brought to you by Securian Canada, the official life insurance partner of the CFL. When we come back, I'll outline my dream off season for the Toronto Blue Jays. And we'll talk about what could be kind of an underwhelming, dramatic Toronto Maple Leafs training camp compared to some of the others that we're going to see next month. That and more next is the fan morning show continues Ben Ennis, Sam McKee sports net five
