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You know what I wanted to talk to you about because in the euphoria of yesterday, I don't know if I've got missed on your own show, but I definitely got missed on here. So I'm going to talk to you about one or two things there. Also, this is a calling show for members. So if members want to come on, they can, if you're watching, we're going to put a link into the chat. You take that link, you go on to your watching, we call it Chrome Desktop, type it in, pull it into Chrome, press OK, come in and wait there and we'll let you in as soon as we can. Kev, but the forcing of all the talk to you, Bill. You know, I'm going to start with a little bit of the notice. And yesterday, after the game, great win, I caught a little bit of what you guys were doing after the game yesterday. And everyone was happy and everyone was delighted and stuff. But a couple of things that came over and you did show me the videos of Gary Neville and stuff and we went over that last night. But four things forced. How impressed were you by Aaron and slot after the game? Because he impressed me after Ripsch. He impressed me after Brent and he impressed me even more and more after this one. He just seemed so calm, so calculated, so straight to the point. He's quite open without being blazay. He's quite open about what he speaks about. And he just comes across as a guy that's willing to give his team loads of credit, willing to say his team weren't perfect. And just looking at the next one and seems to have a real plan about what he wants to do here. Yeah, I mean, look, one of the joy, I suppose one of the good things about doing post-match shows is we don't watch the interviews after the games, when they happen, we're usually getting ready to come on here. So it wasn't until everything had calmed down that I just went back on YouTube and watched all the post-match stuff on Skype. And I think he was doing an interview with Roy Kean and Daniel Storage. And he was asked basically what was the difference in match United last season as opposed to this season. And he just reeled it off to top of his head. It was like last season they pressed this way and this is how they're focused, this season they're pressing one or two and two. And he sat there like, yeah, okay, that's fair enough. And then he was talking about, well, if we win the ball higher, there are four backs have gone. And if you win it higher up the pitch, you virtually straight in, three on three, four on three. You know, it's 5v2, whatever way you look at it. And I was like, it's so bloody obvious what he's saying. And he just sat there reeling it off. Like the way his mind works is so analytical. Very, I think, Raffa Benita's type of attending the way he breaks down. Yeah, the detail in the tactics, 'cause he just really, he was reeling them off by numbers. Like, you know, last season we pressed with a nine, a seven and an 11 and an eight, my talking and my. And it's like, this is how the guy thinks. And he just says it. And it's like, it's up to you to keep up with what he's trying to say. And he's not gonna wait for you. He's like, this is, I boom, boom, boom. You can tell that Daniel storage has not left again that long. Because this is the kind of stuff that he would've heard in dressing rooms at the back end of his career. Whether it's how modern managers are approaching games tactically. That this is the kind of stuff that they say to players. And they expect the players to just know it. And maybe that's 'cause of the culture we come from in Holland, where, sorry, in the Netherlands, where they grow up and they're taught from a very young age. Kind of like the Spanish as well. How to play different systems and how different tactics work. And what players have to do within those tactics to make it work. And it's something, it probably is in the Premier League of this era. It wouldn't have been the case in the Roy Keener. You know, where the Premier League had its reputation of being held to scale through, it was all passion and full blood and thunder kind of league and what have you, all action. Whereas it's developing more and more now as more of the influences coming in from the Artezes, the Pep Guardiola's, that mindset of coaches. And players are in tune with that. Players kind of understand that. And we have to catch up with that as well. You know, as people, fans who watch it. 'Cause we could see it during the game, the way we press and the way they press, and what was happening with the fullbacks. You could see it in the game. Because even though both sides lined up at 4-2-3-1, it was night and day, the difference in how the system was applied. How we applied the way that we wanted to play and the tactics and how we were playing. As opposed to how United tried to do the same thing, after the held to scale through the first 15 minutes and gone, they just got picked apart and pulled apart. Even though man for man, they were trying to occupy the same position, you know, the two sixes in front of a back four, so say. But it was just night and day, the difference between the two. And the way Clark talks about it, he's mind-blowing. - He does mention this press where I think you're saying something like a nine and an 11, and then there was maybe a 10 and a nine, and he was mentioning all these numbers and stuff like that. But he does mention about, you know, your last season, go man for man. And this season, they're played in a slightly different way. And I think when he said that, when he said that it actually really kind of, a light bulb went off in my head because he was like, "Right, okay, if they didn't play man for man, "and they probably should have." Because when I play man for man, they'd have to be so tactically switched on, so switched on, everything that was going on. And Liverpool's movement killed him, you know. And I'm not even talking about pass, pass, pass, move, move, move, you know, that short videos going around from the early in the second half, but Liverpool are just playing in the corner and the end of Liverpool. - I never liked doing it around though, yeah. - Yeah, and Sal was just put to avoid it. But I'm talking about things like, you know, Liverpool win a ball, and next thing Liverpool are just gone. And, you know, the players, like, if they're man-making, they're grabbing better, they're man-making, they're slobbers like, they're beyond them, but they're not, they're all at sea, they're everywhere. And, you know, you make mistakes yesterday, Liverpool capitalize on the ball, and you know, Gary never tried to make Liverpool win a game because they were, you know, it made horrendous mistakes. But I always say, if this was the other way around, Gary Neville will be telling you, look how he reads that part, and look how he gets in there and look how he releases that. Like, Gary Neville stops, Gary Neville stops actually looking into the fourth goal, as soon as Casimir leaves, he doesn't have anything else to say, apart from all Salas to really go ball from Sala, you know, the sort of way. And just the way he slock him across, like Chris is there, his slock is very respectful, but Clop is embraced from what Clop left him. That's absolutely true. And judge him by the transfer window. If you're gonna, if you're gonna give slotted credit of, or to discredit, I suppose, the transfer window, whatever way you want to look for him. He is, he has embraced the squad he has. He doesn't seem intimidated, Chris says, but following Clop is being his own man. And that comes across, he mentions Clop after the game. He meant, you know, that's what you're gonna do, and we're trying to enhance that. And then he, but then he comes across with things like, you know, it's been two years since they were pulling the Champions League. And we see what happened there when doing the Champions League and how they managed with these and the games and stuff like that. And you're kind of going, really, you know, he's basically telling you, look, the squad they had, Champions League final, you know what I mean? And then it's like, you know, our Champions League won the year before. And then it's like, we can deal with it. You see, he's trying to tell people he has a plan to deal with because he talks then about when he comes back from the, from the international break. And when he comes back from the international break, he's basically saying we have seven games on 21 days. And, you know, you can see the subs, he's nearly preparing these games I think already because look, he brings off Trent again, he brings off Robertson again, he brings off Diaz again. You know, he's bringing off, he brings off Jotter again, and he's making plenty of subs. And I think you're gonna see that an awful lot. I think he's gonna maximize those four subs a lot, but I think you're gonna see rotation around the team from the start. You know, I wouldn't be surprised to kind of radically start a game, or Nunez starts a game, or Gakbo. And what he's trying to do is, I think he's trying to walk these players into the system and get them right into it. So when he turns around and says to Nunez and Gakbo, both of you are starting up front today, or Diaz, you are starting up front today, they know what the job is. They know, it's not like they're coming in cold, you know what I mean? And Gakbo didn't spend an awful lot of time, whereas in pre-season, either the Nunez, do you know what I mean? I think that's up front. I think he's gone with what's seen some stuff in pre-season. Baradias, but I think he loves Diaz out there. And I was just so impressed by him that he's not shy about it, he's not trying too hard to be Ironman or Slat. I'm not Yogan Klopp, but he's coming across as someone that can absolutely deal with the Liverpool job. He's not afraid to mention what Yogan Klopp done, or what he left him, or what he had to tee and deal. And he's basically trying to say to you, it's not too different in the walk ethic and the different thing, it's just slightly different in the way we want to do it. And I'm just so impressed with him. And look, don't get me wrong. Couple of weeks down the line, we could lose a game, we could lose till on the bounce, we could have a month where it's, I'll never, listen, Liverpool managed to win the Tarias for having bad Novembers. It was every fucking year you felt like you were able to raise a November. And it can happen, you know what I mean? But, I just think... One thing I'd say that... One thing I'd say that... He comes across camp as the fella, if something goes wrong, which you win at some stage. Yeah, yeah. It's not ugly, you know, medals and fucking, you know, everything else. But he seems to be the guy that goes, yeah, I didn't work, but, you know, this team I bought into and stuff like that. I think he's very much along the lines, but he'll own it, if there's a problem. You know, if he sets the side up in a certain way, and it doesn't work, he'll have no problem putting his hand up and say, "Yeah, the players did what I asked them to do. It didn't work." That's on me. Yeah. Or... But you can even see the subtle differences. It's like, we don't press with a front fight. What United were trying to do yesterday with their press, with the front two, supplemented by another two, that's what we were doing. The difference being is we were really brave. You might... There was a time in the first half, early in the first half, I mentioned it in the show, that Van Dyke stepped out in the back four to intercept the ball, and carried it forward. Kanate did it a couple of times as well, where if the ball is there to be one and to be intercepted, his players will step out, and they'll have the confidence to step out. And he also said, you know, he made a point of mentioning the two chances that United had. So it was a really good win, but it wasn't all plain sailing. There were things to be worked on. This is still a work in progress. But he still took over sight. This is so unusual for a club manager, that you take over a squad, and it's there. It's really good quality. And the manager didn't get sacked for him being shit. He didn't get sacked for losing the dressing room. He didn't get sacked for poor performances. He walked away because he ran out of steam. This rarely happens in the club. It happens in international football quite a bit. But international football, if a country goes on and does really well in World Cup or really well in the Euros, and the manager's like, I've taken this as far as I can go. I want to go back into club football. So you might get that kind of a handover. But in club football, this doesn't happen. So he didn't have to do much to come in and say, right, we're ripping up the formula that the previous guy had, because it didn't work and it got in the boot, up we're going to start afresh. Didn't have to do that. He just had to tailor what he does and adapt it to how the players have learned being coached for the last few years. And the tweaks are there. We're pressing slightly differently, one less, we're more disciplined when we're in shape. The work ethic to get back from everyone is there for everyone to see. And when there's a time to cheat, there is a time to cheat. But it's not 24, you know, it's not for 95 minutes. It's now and again in games. And the players are starting to get the subtleties of it. - Yeah, it's... Madger Apple says, I like how he gives short shrift to the fluff questions. Even the interviewer, Melissa Reddy, shows his refusal to play the media game. And I think this is starting to rub people up the wrong way, right? And I'm all far up by the way. It's not me having to go at slot. I was of the opinion and that when Jürgen Klopp had the media in the palm of his hand, whether they liked it or not, because he was open, he was good value. And you know, he was great quotes, good laugh, whatever. But if you stepped across him, he fucking nailed you. And he nailed you very quickly. And that was the end, you know what I mean? And some very prominent journals have, you know, fallen by the way. So it would regard to Liverpool because they've tried to annoy Jürgen Klopp. And I was of the opinion when Klopp comes in, they talk, they grow up their hands, they're going to go really, Klopp's gone, we've had eight years of having the fucking, having this fella just having the better of us all the time. And this fella, we'll have a really goa. And I think, I'm not saying they've tried to have a goa, but I'm starting to see a creep in to, I use the word media in loose terms, right? But I'm seeing it starting to creep in where you can nearly see pundits and fans of other clubs that run, you know, fan media. So I had dying for something to go wrong here. They're dying for the bad results that he can point in and go, "Oh, he doesn't know, there's this level, "all this fucking shit." But he's not playing that game. And I think he's absolutely excellent. The way he walks, the way he carries himself is "Yeah, cool, calm." He doesn't get flustered, answers the questions. You know, like Matt says, if it's a nonsense question, he'll make nonsense of it. Like he had one yesterday at Pro's Game. And it was, it was regards to Salah, and we go on to Salah in a minute, but he was asked this question. And the guy within the question must have said the word if, about eight times. If Salah goes, if he doesn't sign this, if he does. And Slatchers said, "There's a lot of ifs there, isn't there?" There's a lot of ifs. Now I can talk to you about how good it was in the game if you'd like me to do that. Would you like me to do that? And the guy went, "Yeah, of course." And then of course he went on and he answered the question as how good Salah was. But he just, he just impressed me a lot. And I'm one thing yesterday after the game. They said, "I want to just say I have time. "You're tuning it up. "You're at all traffic. "You're expecting a response from your noise." Boom, boom, boom. And he said, "Yeah, I got them in. "I showed them three clips there "where this person didn't intercept this. "This person didn't get toy enough here. "This person dropped a bit too deep, "wherever the point you're being." And he said, "I just showed them that." And said, "Toy did that up. "Everything else to look after itself "because we know what's coming from them." So we have our plan. If you toy did them three things up, we'd be absolutely fine. And he was dead, really? 'Cause Liverpool went there. We've got a goal. Probably gotta have more. And then just talk the game away from you. And just say, "You're not getting anything "over this game today. "You're not getting a goal. "You're not getting none. "We're just going to take it away." I just think he was so impressive. It's very easy to go over the top of him and go. It's the amazing, you know? I think he could win more than clap. I'm not saying that for a second. But what I'm saying is, the start is hard. Tree wins. Tree clean sheets. Some tricky fixtures I would call them. No, major tests. Tricky fixtures. And he's going to go through them. Absolutely fine. The thing yesterday that came out after the game was Saladin with an interview. Saladin was an interview on the Saturday. And he mentions, "You know, I'm in the last year "in my contract. "This could be the last year at the club." And the way it said, he's going to say, "This is me last year "of me contract and stuff." But he comes out yesterday and he says, "Look, me last year at Liverpool, "I haven't heard anything from the club "over again. "I still contract and people." Like straight away, I was like, "For fuck's sake." Like, this is a great win. I mean, do we have to go back over this? I was really upset with it. But it has to be discussed. What did you make of it? 'Cause I thought, I'm looking at it and I'm thinking to myself, if the club, you know, if he's not interested in soil in the contract, he's probably not telling you the club I haven't spoken to. He's just saying, not to keep his head down, let the fucking contract run out, making an announcement in April. You're not a sort of way. I kind of got a little bit of encouragement after an interview, but maybe that's me being fucking away with the fairies. - Sir, I'll be away with you there in a second. I watched an interview today with Darren Lewis from the mirror. And he came out with an interesting line. It was put to him exactly what Salah said. And he said, "When he heard this, "his ears pricked up. "They pricked up because players don't volunteer "this information. "You might be able to back them into a corner "and barrage them with questions "to get the answers out of them. "But players very rarely divulge a conversation "like that voluntarily." So, and what Daniel Storage came out afterwards and said, basically, "Most Salah is basically saying to the club, "Right, I'm ready to sit down and talk to you." That's basic, that's to be on it. That's because you're dead right in what you said. If he, everyone knows his contract is up. He doesn't have to say anything. He doesn't have to come out and say that this could possibly be my last time playing at all. - Oh, but he only does one or two things. If he wants to leave at the end of the season, he comes out now and says, "I'm leaving at the end of the season," right? Or he says, "Notting keeps the fucking on the down low. "It drags on, it drags on, it drags on." Nobody says anything, okay? And eventually, they come out in the marriage, they're even going, "Most Salah's not selling a new deal, "he's gonna go best to look at all that sort of stuff." - So, me, I think that conversation yesterday is, modal Edwards, talk to my agent, I'm ready to sit down and discuss the next few years with you. And the thing is, it's the first time in his time at Liverpool that he's heard a different voice. It's the first time that he's been at Liverpool where he's heard a different tactical approach. He's got a different manager who's asking him to maybe do different things. His role within the squad has evolved. He's now one of the senior members of the squad. - I think he is the senior member of the squad. - I think he's 32 years of age. He's still banging in performances left, right and center. He could become one. I think he's eyeing records at Liverpool and he'll only ever get one shot of it. - Well, he does say in the interview before that he asks him what he wants to achieve. And he said, "I want to be known as one of the best, "not the best player to play for Liverpool." And so he's leaving generally name checks in it. And look, a few on the chat here are saying, look, it's a sign of Salah saying, right, come on, let's start. He said, "What do you know what I mean?" And I think-- - That's right. - Like, I kind of look at it, I've talked to myself, maybe they're not, maybe neither so they're in a rush here. And I don't mean that as a bad way, right? But maybe neither so they're in a rush on, with respect to the trade, because it may have been, you know, it could be easy to tour around and go, they wanted to talk to them in January, club makes that announcement, that players want to see what's going on, let's get through the summer, it's a big upheaval, we're in the club, it's a new manager, players are saying, "Right, can we just, can we get through the summer, "let's see how it goes?" And now might be the tipping point where they go, "Right, we've gone through the four straight league games, "we have an international break, "now's the chance to sit down and look at it." Now, I know, I know, maybe I'll trade 'em or away on international duty, but there's nothing to stop them. There's a break for the footballing break, for the club, to say, "Right, let's get this done," because the thing for me is like, I look at a verge of Andogi's body language, and he doesn't look like a guy that's on the stress about a contract. I look at Mo Salah, and I think Mo Salah has the soil to die, this Liverpool team is his. It's his Liverpool team, and he's going to be the man to deal with. Barricio Gomez, I think it might be the longest they ever played at the club, unless somebody else is there in an awful long time. - He's up there, Robbo's 300th appearance yesterday. - Robbo's signed in the same, no, sorry, Robbo's signed in the same summer as him. I don't know who's signed's forced, but he's Robbo's signed at the same. - Salah was first. - Was Salah forced? - I think so. - Robbo went and started a Kevin Stewart deal, and Kevin Stewart was on pre-season. - Right, okay, so it might be, it might be the longest they ever played at the club, right? But when it comes to Salah, he just looks like this is Moite here, and he's looking around at all these players around him, and he's helping them, and he's great energy with them, and he's scarred on goals, when he's scarred, and he's even brought us on celebration now, and he's like at the crowd, and he's given it a big one. You know, he looks happy at what he's doing, he doesn't look like a guy under stress, right? Now, you could look at it and say he's not under stress, 'cause he knows he's leaving at the end of the season, so it's a free flop, but then you look at Trent, and Trent gets taken off on 70 minutes last week. Gets taken off, right? And he's on the bench, and it's all a bit of a moan, and it looks like a moan, and slots talking to him, he looks a bit maupy on the pitch afterwards, stuff like that. And then you look this week, and I'm not taking him off, and then we score, and he's coming off as well. He comes off, he's all smoiled, he's out to the game, he goes down to the fans, he's given it a big one, he's outside the ground, given the annoyed fans a bit, and he looks really relaxed. Now, I'm not saying it's a sign towards, you know, he's sawing in a new country, I've seen videos of him coming off the pitch, and someone said, "Will you be back here again?" And he said, "I'll be back again, I'll be back." They see me next time, I'll be back again, stuff like that, and people are like, "Oh, that's a sign." But the club, you know, I think, I think very quickly they said, nothing's changed with the contract. I think Salah said the club I haven't spoken to, and I don't know where Trent is. I hope there's a bit of a sea change here, and there with this little break that he can go in and talk, so I know, because no matter how positive a spin we put on this, like if this gets November, December, like, if you go on, you're in the, you're in major trouble there. I would have been really worried if any of the three of them came out and said a word last week. Which did it come out and said anything while the transfer window was open. And that could have opened all kinds of doors because if it's handled badly, you could turn the fans, say, well, it's Salah now, Sada, get cash in, get, whatever. The other side of it, I mean, the three of them have been respectful in that manner towards the club. The fact that Salah volunteered all of this yesterday, to me, he just says, look, I want to stay. Virgil come, not flossed, not bothered about anything. And I think it's important for people to remember. It's not about what players have done when it comes to contracts. It really isn't. It doesn't make a blind bit of difference while Virgil van Dyke and Moll Salah have done in their Liverpool careers. It's what can they do over the next three years? Can they still do it at the level that we need them to do it at for the next two to three years? If the answer to that is yes. And the medical department, the guys who do the analytics at the club will be the most informed people to make this decision. If the answers to those questions are yes, you have to offer them a deal. The thing is, because it's going into the last year, your hand is significantly weakened. So you might have to pay more to keep them or offer some incentives to keep them, whereas if it was done 18 months ago, the club would have been in a better negotiating position. But same time, I still think Trent is the one that's probably got to be the most difficult because he's the one player that you look at of all three and say, yeah, you're a massive saleable asset. The other two are, they're doing really, really well. They're fantastic players, great servants for the club, but they are heading into the back end of their career. You know, so if we sign them up now, this will be their last contract at Liverpool. Both at 34, 35 could go on and get a bigger contract elsewhere. But this will be their last major contract at a top European league, in the top European league. Trent, it's this one and probably one more. But I think to get Trent to stay, you'll have to probably either make one of, if not the top earner at the club. - Yeah, you know? Okay, we have a guest, but we all know who he is. Here we go. - Hey! - Hi! - No, he's on top. - I'll show you, but that's not fair. - That's not for what JE has 'cause he's like, I swear to God, it's like watching graphics of a Commodore 64 on an Atari 2600. Can we even hear him? I can't hear the thing he's saying. - I can hear you guys, great. - Okay, I can hear you. Come on, what question have you got? - I'm gonna shut up, so you guys stop. - He's like Jeremy Clax in here in this tractor. Come on. - I am, I'm literally going to get some grain right now. I didn't know I was supposed to come with a question. I was just seeing if this was actually gonna work. - Cross a box. - My phone is so bloody slow. I've used 75 gigs of data in 10 days. - 75 gigs of data in 10 days? - Yeah. - Jesus, okay. - Have you got a question for us? - Sure, I got a question for you. It's not Liverpool United related, I know that's what you were at, but I wanted to get the first caller in, so hopefully it starts a flow of things coming here. You guys can't see behind me. How good are Brighton again this year? How good are Brighton again this year? That's impressive. Another top manager seems to be coming out of Brighton. Another crop of good young players out of Brighton. - It's, I'm very surprised. This hurtler guy knew absolutely nothing about him, but I gotta say, it's quite impressive. - I think, so first of all, I never heard of him. Don't know who he is, still don't know the guy's name. I know he's torty one, okay? I know that much. I'm really impressed with him again, you know? They were okay, I think, after the first 20 minutes against everything, really impressed against you, and the guy in the field, I think his name is a belabor, or I can't remember his name, but he's really good. Yeah, he's really, really good. But I'm glad you asked about Brighton, because I'm gonna switch it away from Brighton a little bit if I can, right? 'Cause I want to talk about the sendin' off of deck and rice between Arsenal and Brighton, and I'm watching both top. Because I looked at it, and I thought, it's just a sendin' off. If the rules are, if you're stopping the restart of a game, it's a yellow card. He stopped the restart of a game. Now, Arsenal fans have made an awful lot of this. This referee is terrible. This referee is this. The officials are this. These are the same officials that would marry an older guard to play fuckin' basketball in his own penalty area, and I'm feelin' last season. But they seem to forget that. There was a guy on the, there was a guy on Arsenal fan TV, Griton's Teeth, you know what he was talkin' about, which was incredible. But, carefully, you know, they showed a clip then, TNT showed a clip then of them, the striker of Brighton. What's his name? Joe Pedro. Joe Pedro. The Roy told you it was awful. I was in the pub and Liverpool gone. That's not as brutal. He does not, he's absolutely terrible than he scored a winner against you. Yeah, so, but he was terrible that day. Anyway, but what do you make of this? Like, they showed this clip where all the bar goes over the line, and he boots it away, and so, and I had to head that was having a go. I think the referee gets it wrong there. I think he should book Joe Pedro. But he gets a Roy in Declan Royce. Like, because he gets a Roy in Declan Royce, he can't turn around and go, "Oh, but what about this?" And he gets it wrong there. It's okay for him to be wrong. Do you know what I'm sayin'? I don't think he does. I think, I won't say it often. See, frame it. Jeremy Gallagher on Refwise today pretty much had his spot on. So, at the end of the day, Joe Pedro, the ball went out. He was only just there. He lasted back to the goalkeeper. The goalkeeper lashed it back to where the throw in was to be taken. There wasn't an Arsenal player there to take the quick throw in. By the time the ball got back to the area where the throw in was to be taken from, Pedro was there, and they just got on with the game. He didn't prevent Arsenal from taking a quick throw in. And Joe Pedro can always turn around and say, "I thought the ball was in. "I thought the ball was in play. "I was just knocking it on." There wasn't a wispy. So I was just knocking it on from me to run on to. Yeah. I just got the knock-hand wrong. But when it comes to Declan Royce, he's tackling the first half a couple of years ago. That would have been a rate. You know, they've changed in Taylor the way the referees are looking at that now. And I think it was Roy. I think it was a yellow card all day, every day. But you look at what he actually did. The ball was there. The beltman, the whistle had gone. The beltman looked up, looked to take a free kick. Royce looked down, knocked the ball out of play. And when the ball goes off the pitch, the ball has to be reset. You can't take a quick free kick then. So Royce knew exactly what he was doing. He was already on a yellow card. It was stupidity on his part. He gave the referee a decision to make. And he made the only decision he could. Was you prevented a quick free kick being taken. It's a second yellow, you're off. And the verbal gymnastics I'm seeing from Arsenal fans that I follow, it's unbelievable. Because you're actually inventing things now to say on social media that didn't happen. They're literally making shit up as if people don't have access to the video or haven't seen it live. They're making shit up to suit a narrative. The narrative isn't there. The ref on this occasion, he got absolutely right. There's no argument. I did see things like, oh, Feldman should've got a booking for kick and Royce. And I was like, you know, he kicks him because he got kicked the ball. Yeah, and I just thought it was a wreck. I just thought it was silly. Silly thing to do, especially early in the season when you know that going on to it. Like, you know how this is going to roll, right? Declan Royce gets sent off of this, right? And in three weeks time, someone's going to do the exact same thing and he's going to get booked for it, right? Or he's not going to get booked for it. Did you get me? And he's only yellow. Declan Royce should know better. He's only yellow and so weird in the season. We've seen it coming back so many years ago. It was probably one of Matt and Scout's last season that I probably went. Shorepullen were literally clamping down at this season. And for the four three games, they were giving everything for Shorepullen. And then it just disappeared. Because it was like, that's too much hard work. And Royce, I think four or four weeks down the road, Royce doesn't get booked for that. I don't think he gets booked for it. Possibly not. No, but possibly not. But you know yourself, this early in the season, you're going to get pulled on every little thing. Especially when they've told them already in the preseason that this is going to happen. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Matt, can I ask you before you go? Because you've other people trying to join. Yeah, man, at the match yesterday. OK. Who? It's going to be Gravenberg until it's not going to be Gravenberg. Fair. I think I know everyone on last night's show in for Gravenberg. And he's getting a lot of love today across social media and everywhere else. I'm just waiting for inside all the traffic. You know the video I'll be able to bring you. I'm waiting to see that because that could be a good one. Roy, Matt, I'm going to let you go. Best of luck in the tractor. I hope, at some stage, your family give you at least a half an hour's break during the day to have to yourself because every time I call you, you're in a tractor, no matter what hour of the day. So best of luck with that. I'm going to talk to you soon. Wednesday, we're moving in. Oh, Wednesday, Wednesday. One of the best. Big day Wednesday, big day Wednesday. I fully expect to walk and tour around the place, not a video tour and all that sort of stuff. And maybe tours it when you actually have some human internet, which would be amazing. Roy, we're going to let him go. Talk today, I might be good. Matt's gone. I'm just going to leave him on this screen if that's already. And instead of switching between two and three. Roy, the next person, RJ, is the target. I think Matt's trying to join again. Boy, is he trying to join again, I don't know. Let's go here. Let's go here. Boom, boom. Here we go. How are you, my man? Oh, we can't here. You're on mute, mate. Hold on, hold on. No, no, no, don't do anything. No, no, no. There you go. How are you? Can you hear me now? Yeah, we can hear you. How are you? I'm good. I'm good. Super-dizzle, finally, on the chat. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There we go. How are you, my man? I'm good. I'm good. We're looking forward to this. So, yeah. I didn't catch what's been going on for the last couple of minutes, because-- It was just Matt and a tractor. Don't worry about it. OK. OK. So I, as you guys know, on the telegram, I'm super-positive about everything with us at the moment. I can't see things going wrong, because I can hear what everyone's saying, in terms of night I've signed in. And I would have liked a few more signings. But I'm extremely positive with Slut at the moment. I'm really on the Slut training. I'm probably way too on the Slut training right now after. I obviously beat in the night and helps that 100%. But yeah, I think we will be putting up quite a few trees this year. Right. So, I'm going to ask you a question. I'm presuming this is your surname. Super being the fourth name. We're talking about Slut. And we're talking about how, you know, not metallical. I think when you say metallical people think he's just boring. I don't think he is. I think he's his own man, like Chris said, appreciates what he's got and what he's inherited. And he's looking forward to things he's doing. He's very straightforward over the games we have, the competitions we have, and he seems quite comfortable in it. But we've seen three wins. We have an international break. Do you want, I suppose the question is, do you want to see him change the team a little bit? Just to show that when he makes these changes from the start, he can still deal with. Because I think the next thing coming around in this is, I look, he just plays the same 11. And the same 11, luckily enough, keep winning. And he's afraid to use these other players. Would you like to see him throw one or two in in the next game? Maybe like a new NES or a gakbo and I don't know, maybe a heavy alley. It's something along the annoyance. And then, because I know the next thing coming is, it's always the same 11. Can he do it or can he use a squad? Would you like to see that? Because he, I feel like he needs to answer questions that adjust the tip of people's tongue. You know how to start away? Yeah, yeah. So I think with him, he is, he's doing, so there's this classic thing of Fabina, where we send Fabina to ages to get into the team. I think Klopp, sorry, slot, knew the players who would probably work in his system from the jump. And obviously, the perfect example we have with players who knew would have worked in his system. And everyone on this chat and everyone said is Endo. And he knew Endo wasn't going to work in his system from the jump. And he's the person, essentially, he was trying to replace over the summer. But I think with some coaching similar to how Fabina, I don't, they're not the same level of player, but similar to Fabina, I think Endo with some coaching, he's going to be taking out of the team for a while. I think Endo is a humble enough player to say, okay, I can't do exactly what he wants me to do right now. But if you give me a couple of months, I might be able to do it to the level of someone like a grab a bunch, but I might be able to do it to a grab a bunch like. And my thing with the squad is you don't need a squad of stars during the league. Ferguson showed off that numerous times, using players like, what's his name, Darren Ferguson, O.J., Patanji, soon, all those players who, some of them just, he knew which games to use him, and the thing I think Scott's going to struggle with this year is knowing which games to use those players in. But I think he will eventually integrate the likes of Morton, Endo, and Harvey. And obviously, we've got Karis Jones as well. The only thing with Karis Jones is his injury, right? - Yeah, and, you know, he's going to need to, because, you know, like, he mentions it after the game yesterday, seven games and 21 days when they get back, you know, in three different competitions, I think it is, isn't it? If he's the League, the League Cup and the Champions League starts around the 17th of September, I think it might be the first game. And he's going to have to, because, like, we don't have a small squad. I think, I think we have a squad that's 24 of names, I think we can get into it. I think we're quite handed to the opponent, knowing the players in the match day squad, I think that's fine. That'll be tested a little bit later on in the season when you do injury suspensions, and just players are a form, where they're just not playing well. But he's going to have to use these players. And I think it's been quite telling in the subs he's made, you know, he has given rest to Andy Robertson, there's no doubt about that. I think he's protecting Trent a little bit. But when it comes to Jotter, when it comes to Jotter, in particular, and Diaz, to a certain extent, I think he's trying to get back, but we're new as in to this. He's trying to get them into it. Yeah. Because the easiest part in the pitch to change, the forward lads might do something, so let's change it. And he's definitely going to have to. There's no doubt about it. And, you know what, I think, I love to answer that question before people throw it out there. You know, because I think if he goes, if he plays the same 11 in the next three games and wins them, people will be like, fucking hell, he's flying. But you're definitely going to get the people going, yeah, but what's he like beyond this 11? It's a little bit like a teddy. It was trying to teddy two seasons ago when he just never changed his sight. You know, the sort of way. But it's an interesting, I'm delighted to see you're on the slot train. I think everyone should be, regardless of how he's doing. If he has a really bad week, bad month, you need to back him. You know, it's not going to be all, no, it'd love it to be. You know, totally illegal wins, I'll take it. You know what I mean? But it's not going, it's just not going to be that way. This will be far, I'll let you go out of the main question, as always, is lasagna. What are you having with the lasagna? - Chips. Sorry. - It is chips. - It's a toy. - Old garlic bread. - Old garlic bread. - I do actually have, yeah, I actually ate my wife's baby lasagna yesterday. - What's it? - That yesterday, day before. And it was a lasagna. It was garlic bread, so yeah. - Garlic bread. - She's a keeper. - Yeah. - Cold slop, it's up in the air, but chips. - Cold slop is controversial. I don't get that. - So controversial. But honestly, chips are everything is the winner. - Right, I have to let you go, 'cause someone else is looking to get in. - Pleasure. - You know. And call back to camera. I'm nice to talk to you. - I will do. - Bye bye. - Be good. Roy, Brian. - It's great to put faces to names, isn't it? - Yeah, yeah. - You see the names in the telegram. It's fantastic to be able to put faces to the nose. - Brian is waiting to get in here, so let's see if we can get Brian in. I don't know how to have the next time now, but I don't think you have. - Not enough. - Just the way you want to go. - I'll start ringing. Anyway, let's see. Brian, no face on Brian's name. Let me see. No, Brian is muting himself. Brian is having an absolute man. Brian's disappeared. Oh, good Jesus. Right. - Brian. - That didn't go well. That didn't go well. Let's see, Mitch. Mitch, if you're watching, hang on there a second, we're gonna get you in. Let me see. Boom, boom, boom. Mitch, guess two. Mitch, publish. Mitch, how are you? Mitch has gone after muters YouTube. Can you hear us? - Yes, I got you guys. Can you hear us? - Yeah, cool. Mitch, how are you? - Awesome. - Ah, lovely. Yeah, sorry, James. Was, had to go on my phone, so jumping between fine laptop, but great to be a long time listener in the fade for seven, eight years or so now, so. - So, where about, where about the image? 'Cause that's an accent there. Are you in Australia? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I'm going to hate Australians. Let's just get this out of Australia. - Oh, can you do hate Australia? You fucking hate Australian. - Yeah, it's a lot about it. How much you hate Australian? - Yeah, he does. - What are you doing? - No, don't, Mitch, don't talk to me. Just talk to me, Mitch, keep your voice fixed on me. It's absolutely not. - What Australian? - Who happens to be manager experts, boils my piss. Other than that, love Australians. - Wouldn't believe it was. Steve was just me, but that's just me. - Mitch, we're being asked here, what's your screen name on YouTube? - Uh, Mitch LFC or something like that. - Yeah, I think it is straightforward, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, I keep it simple, right? - Yeah, I take your name and LFC, it's absolutely fine. It's not like we make Carol, whose name is Christmas Eve, because it's his daughter's YouTube account and he don't have to change the name. But anyway, Mitch, what would you like to speak to us about? - Mitch Superduper or Mitch, yadda yadda yadda, whatever. - Yeah, no, SuperDizzle's name is actually SuperDizzle, he was Chris and that, so that's just how it works. What have we got tonight, Mitch? - Lovely dance. Look, just sort of come on and, you know, hate to bring it back to the transfer window and, you know, I'm glad everyone knows me. They are because they'll probably come from the comments and I'll get liable to FSD, neutral, FSD, and FSD, apologists, you know, whatever. - Yeah, yeah, it's relevant. - And it's mostly just because I'm not super into transfers. Transfers, you don't really see them playing for 90 minutes score on screeners. That's the players, you know, well, on the pitch. But, yeah, my question really was, just wondering, post us all seeing this new slot, calm, possession-based way of football. Are people still super concerned about the transfer situation and the centre-back situation in particular, because, you know, if this brand of football is what we think it's going to be, where it's going to be more relaxed, less intense, less injuries, more longevity in players, should we be okay having four centre-backs, you know? And I think to throw my two cents on the centre-backs, I think it's a very difficult position. No matter what angle you sort of tackle it out, you know, if you, if we were in the market a month ago and we splashed $80 million, and a bus stony, a break away, you know, you're sort of telling Van Dyke, hey, you're leaving in a year, this is your replacement, and you're also telling this new $80 million player, hey, you're starting next to Van Dyke. So, you then have to have a conversation with Kwanzaa, with Kanate, with Gomez, don't expect much match time this season, because we've got two starters now, two very expensive starters. And then on the other hand, if you try and buy a $30 million player, any $30 million player worth his soul is playing week in, week out, week in, week out, somewhere in Europe, and how do you convince him to come be a fourth choice, fifth choice centre-back? So, again, very difficult situation for the manager, for Richard Hughes. Just curious with all that in mind. Is Paul good enough? Is Paul not good enough? Kwankaa, well, let you go first. Look, I've said it for a while. Going into the transfer window, I felt we needed a centre-back and a centre-made. But I look at the numbers, three keepers, 25 players in total. Last season, when we went into the season, the head Kwanzaa and their back pocket as a fair choice, and the staff knew what the potential of the player was, but it was fifth choice. And the injury to Joel Madop opened a door that probably didn't expect to open. And he made full use of it. He made full, you know, it was, but it goes to show how one injury at the back can, if you didn't have a Joel Kwanzaa last season to step into that role, you still had Joel Kwanzaa's there, you still had Ibu Kanate and Virgil Bandak. One injury to a quartet leaves you with three. And out of that three, I was just looking at the fixtures there, just as we were talking to Supers as well. And you're talking, right, you come back, you play forest on the 14th. You go to Milan on the 17th. You've got to squeeze in the game against West Ham. Then you're playing warm-up, Din Wolves, Din Bologna. If you're trying to do that with three players to rotate in two positions, you're asking an awful lot of them to stay healthy. Your fifth choice at the minute now, I think, is NALO. So I would have felt safer having a fifth choice center back as an option, but you make a really good point. Anyone worth their salt is going to demand minutes unless you're going to bring in a mercenary. And if you're bringing in a mercenary, why are you? It's a real gamble, and it's one that they'll have to live by or die by, because ultimately, Richard Hughes, Arnold Slott, Mike Edwards, have built this squad and said that this squad is capable of challenging in the league, is capable of challenging in Europe, and doing well in the domestic courts. It's up to then now to make it work. I think you're right about the intensity of the games that we're going to be playing, but at the same time, Slott is going to have to manage the rotation. Gab, what you were saying in the last conversation, he's going to have to start this from the start when they come back. Klopp was the same. The first three, four games in any season, he didn't change much. But when they came back from their first international break, it was normal to see four and five changes to a starting lineup every three games. They might be on the bench, and they might come on for 15 minutes at the end. But the next game, those players who were on the bench started, and there was probably only three or four players who were ever-present all the way through. And I think that's going to be very similar to what we see. I think we're going to see plenty of rotation with three or four changes every single game, and there's going to be minutes shared around for everyone. Managing load for Arnold Slott is different, because in the Dutch league, you play 34 games. He plays in Europe. Generally, Dutch sides tend to go out earlier. They're not playing in the latter end of a Champions League. They might be in the Conference League or Europa League, tend to go out in the last eight, and they only have one Domestico, and it's not to be all in indoor. This is totally different, and he's going to have to lean on the medical department to know when players are in the red zone and know what, how to manage them. It's a completely different experience for him, and he's got to pick the ball up, running straight away from you off. And we've seen Canade last three games now, so the performance teams clearly are putting in the work. Oh, he's definitely deserved some sort of balance. Yeah, he's being fit for three weeks in a row. You see, when I go back to the start of last season, we had Van Dijk, we had Canade, we had Matip, and we had Jog Omis. Quanta only appears fairly early in the season, actually, right in Newcastle. He comes down as a sorb, and then you see him. But I think, I think, up until about, I want to say April, I think he only makes about eight or nine appearances, Joel Quanta, for Liverpool in the league, right? And, but you're kind of going, "Jesus, he's a real prospect. "He's a real prospect, and Jog Omis "is going to usher out of the way, "and doesn't get a look and a cent to have. "Quanta plays a bit. "Quanta plays quite a lot, "because Matip goes down injured. "Quanta plays, Canade is being wrapped in cotton. "Mole every week, and that's a concern. "You know, that really, really there is a concern. "What's happened here is, from my looker, "and I'm not saying I agree with it, "for what's happened here is, "I think Matip's left the club, "well, I don't think he'll know he's left the club. "Or when he leaves, I think what he decided is, "Roy, we're not going to replace Matip, "we're an outside player. "We're going to replace him with Joel Gomis. "Jo Gomis is no longer a utility player at Liverpool. "We don't want to play in three positions, "we want to play in one, and that's centre back. "We're going to pull him in there, "we're going to go quanta, Gomis, Van Doy, Canade. "It's exact same numbers as last season when it starts, "but the concerns are there because, "Jo Gomis fitness is actually quite good in the last three years. "And the only injuries he's ever got have been the impact injuries. "You know, too bad the impact injury you've got. "You look at Canade and the fitness people are going to have "to really walk hard to keep him fit, I think. "But you never know, he could have been too bulked, "to whatever, you don't do how all these things walk. "And then you have Quanta, who is quite young. "He is very young, and that will be games like Ipswich, "that will kind of triumph every now and then. "And Van Doy is not getting any younger, "and we used the Europa League last year to rest Van Doy, "and put in Gomis, or put in Canade, or put in Quanta. "From a club point of view, I think they've looked at it, "with the exact same amount of centre backs "as we had in the start of last season. "So what's the big deal? "The big deal is reliability. "Now, if I am signing, and Anthony Boylan says there, "and I actually agree with him, he says, "it's not about buying a fifth choice. "If you want to be smart, you won't buy "the top quality centre back. "If that puts some nose, there are joints, "take it on the training pitch to keep the place in the soil. "I agree with that, to an extent, right? "But my argument will be, go out and sign a player, "and you're not telling me a fifth choice, "you're not telling me a fourth choice. "I would have signed a young centre back. "I would have signed a young centre back, "I would have signed a young left-sided centre back. "If you're going to keep Gomis." And the reason being is because, if Gomis goes at the end of the next season, you still have four centre backs. And because it's going as young, you still have the scope to go, "No, we're actually going to go on buying "someone actually really strong and experienced "like a bestownie or a brat, whoever it might be." And you're not telling anyone I would join, because you can turn around the quants and go, "Listen, it's a bit early for you. "It's actually a bit early for you to be "a constant centre out of a level." You can say the conality, you weren't fitting off, you would have the evidence there in front of you. Midfield, there was another issue. Midfield is, those centre halves can all play centre half. I feel one of our midfielders can't play in midfield for this team. I like them in the squad. If you're back to the wall, I like Endo. But if we're going to go out and play a control game where we keep the ball in half like we dictate or compact, we look to play around teams and not just play wide and be functioning in the middle of the midfield, I don't think Endo walks. And for that reason, I'm not saying to drop Endo where we would have squalled all together, I'm not saying to sell him. I would have brought him a midfielder. Because I think the trade are in there that have started the season of being excellent. I think Harry Villalia has a lot to show. I thought he was brilliant in pre-season, like brilliant in pre-season. And then I see him not getting, he's got a couple of minutes of home to Brentford. I don't think he gets on against Nick's which and he doesn't get on the other day. The same gets so few minutes. I think there's a plan there from him. I think he might be the fourth name that you see into this team as, you know, when they're doing the rotation. I think he might be the fourth one in. And then you look at Cortis Jones, who I like as a player. I'll make no secret better. I like as a footballer. I'm not sure if you can do the grab-and-bear to Robert. I think you can do the Saba's like kind of advanced, kind of big, but he's injured. So, I'm not talking about how good he is like there. I'm just saying, I would have brought another midfielder in. And I would have said, you've three great ones there. You have two, you've a Cortis Jones, you have an Elliott who you can argue over and you want that doesn't quite fit, but might walk in different situations. But I'd rather brought one more in and saying you're far for actually at the moment. And then you've Elliott and then you've Jones than you've end or so. Listen, Mitch, to be honest, Dave decided this and Kev said a line area and I'm saying it all summer to Kev but on this show and, you know, in person and online and texts or whatever else, they live and die by the decisions they make. And I thought I'd brave or it's stupid and... Can't be good. No, it can't be and I don't think it'll come down where they go. They weren't quite brave, but they weren't quite stupid. Football has a good point. Do you think they'll revisit this in January? Ask Mitch that. Do you think they might revisit this decision in January? I don't think so. And I think, look, it's in our nature as fans to be timid and scarred by players that have been previously injured and I think, look, if there's crazy injuries over the next couple of months, yeah, they probably will visit it. But I sort of am slightly not in agreement with everything in terms of... I don't totally think it's a number... I'm sorry, I don't totally think it's a quality issue. I think it's more of a numbers issue. I think the quality is there as is. I think Endo is probably getting a bit of a bad rap at the moment. I think I know you have more performance in pre-season, but I think when this team's in full flow and he gets slotted into that six, I think he could do a job and we will see him do a job in potentially in Europe and in the cup games and maybe in the league. And then Curtis Jones, I think, definitely has the quality. I think we probably won't see him in the six. If I were to look at the game and for what I'm seeing, I would say McCallister probably slots into that six. We call it a six, but I mean, Graven Birch, it was pushing in the front four yesterday, but I think we'll probably see Curtis in that eight, hybrids sort of in between, "Sobbish liar" in between Endo or all that six. And I think he would do a really good job doing it, but I think it'd be... I think it'd just be a number. If he were to bring another centimeter, I don't think a center back. And if you could get a Zippemendi-esque, a player of quality for that 40, 50, maybe even 60 mil mark, that's amazing, because we will get injuries in midfield. We probably won't in center back, we might do, but we definitely will in midfield. But I think based on what the club is saying and doing, unless Van Dyck probably turns down a contract and is pretty open about it or open to the club at least, we probably won't see a center back coming in, and we may or may not see a center mid coming in. I don't know. I'd love to see this man. I can't see... I can't see that in January either. I think you set a style over here unless something radical happens and you lose. Unless you lost, say, my car is not for the season, and any time you had to do something and you were on, you know, they were really treading at the top end of the table and he felt he needed to do something. And I think behind the line, I think he's hoping to keep three of those fit. I'm not saying he used them all the time, but I think the trade has started yesterday. If you tell him you're going to get 24 of league games out of each of them and you might be missing one, two, three games each, I think he'll take that. I think Cortis Jones, I think he likes Cortis Jones. I think he likes Elliot. I'm not too sure I'll end up, but I think he's hoping, I think he's hoping he keeps three of them fit. If he can keep three of them fit, Liverpool will go a long way. Make sure I have to let you go because those people kill him up here at the beginning. I'm just excited we didn't get to talk about lasagne or... Oh yeah, Roy, so the big question, lasagne, what happened with it? I'm a big fan of chips, but look, I don't guess lasagne is good to get in there. Like, just have it as it is. - It's already perfect. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. The lasagne on its own, if you're putting anything with it, the real answer is chips. There's just no doubt about it, it's chips. It's 100% all right, it's unbelievable. - It's really great. - Thanks for having me. - Yeah, no problem. (laughs) Yeah, I'm with Hardy again, Mitch. Be good. - Cheers. - Cheers. - What's that? - Well, that's Troy, Brian. We got Brian and Dylan aligning up here, so that's Troy, Brian again, right? So let me see, just let me see what I mean. It's the good that people call in, Kev. - I'm lovin' this, I'm lovin' the fact that people are actually going-- - I think it might be in the traffic center, okay? We send them a track going, "Don't ask for a fuckin' call in again." - Yeah. - You know what I'm startin' away? Polish. Now, Brian has beat with himself again. It's Brian acting the maggot, or what? Brian. Brian. Brian. - Carta Warford, come in, Warford. - Brian. - Why are you using Warford? - To Kenny. - To Kenny. - What? - So I left the road. - Now, Brian sits still, will ya? (laughing) There you go. What would you like to talk about? - I did a blog question. I didn't just ring in the parking lot. - You're ringin', just to see if your internet's walkin'. Yeah, see, this is the sort of mess that goes on. - Yeah. - Look, he doesn't have a bridge that's going on. Look, can we say-- - No, it's crack, Brian. - It's fucked. - Yeah, the internet's fucked, he said. We're letting Brian go. Brian, good luck. - Slide. - Yeah, we're gonna have to be harsh on people here. Let's see, Dylan. Dylan, let's see, boom. Oh, Jesus, hold on. Let's get Dylan in. This isn't great, now, is it for? Let's get Dylan in, boss, right? Okay, let's go. Dylan, guess two. Oh, here's Dylan, look, look. There you head, no. Dylan. - What's up? - How are we? - It's a crack. - Oh, good. - Good, good. What do you wanna talk to you, though? - Random one. - Random one? - Not football. - Not football, no, no. Sick of football. We're on international break, so no football. - Okay. - With co-play, currently ongoing, and Oasis in the media. - So co-play, a crow pack playing tonight. - Last night, last night, last night, last night. What if 100 quid tickets were Oasis? Go on, tell her to me. - Well, I went to see co-play last night, unbelievable. - Yeah. - So I'm asking. - But I have an over theory on co-play, but go on, I'll get it here in a minute. Watch our question. - What's the best gig you've ever been to? What's the worst gig you've ever been to? - Oh, right. Let us have a minute to think about that. But I have a theory on these co-play gigs. I think people are only going to co-plays that they can stand there while they sing "Fick You" and everything else other than that. It's just fucking, just hurry up and get to fix you. We just are going to have the end bands on and we'd be let's just singing around and then we can all go home. That's my theory on co-play. Not saying that bad, but like-- - Of course. - No, they're very good, but I'm saying, like, if you look at Glassumbry, right? Like Glassumbry had so many songs on co-play. I think the headline, wherever else, right? And literally the only clip that was banging around the BBC fucking accounts was, "Oh, look, I fixed you." That's it. None else, I'll do the songs I show you. - It's just playing-- - It's the only thing you know. - What? No, I'm not a model. I'm not a model. I'm not a model. Like, if you play them, I'll know them. But it was like, they never show any other clip or the loads go down, the end bands, forever the fucking wrist bands come on, everything goes on. Chris Martin sings a bit and he does this weird thing where he goes, "Hi, everyone, front Dublin." And then he choices to sing out and it's a bit weird. And then he plays his song and then he lets the crowd sing on the tone and then everyone goes, "I wasn't that a fucking deadly concert." Can't remember any of it, just a few of it. "The best concert I've ever been to Oasis in Slain, where I was shot over there. Oasis in Slain 2009." Probably one of the last gigs before I broke up for the kids out there. Wars gig. I don't think I've been to a terrible gig, to be honest with you. So I don't have a warsome, but Slain 2009. Yeah, that's definitely mine. Kev, Joel Dolan. The best. Joel Dolan, something like that. These are not that old, not that old. Now, best gig I ever went to was 1988's Guns N' Roses in Hershey Park in Pennsylvania. Rose Living in the States. That's the best one. Best one. Okay. And they were supported by Aerosmith. And I think I was four. I was 17 and it was brilliant. It was just as Guns N' Roses were just starting to really take take off. So that was just, that was mental. And being 17 at that time was, it was great. It was everything you did. I wanted my first major concert. Sean, your age here, Kev. But... Everyone's taken seven in from 88 here to see what the starting is. Come on. 72, 82, is it? Yeah, I was just, I was just 17. Haven't really been to many concerts over the years. I haven't been to any bad ones. But that one was definitely the best one. Enough. A lot of people used to, I do fair a few people who used to do security at Glastonbury. But it was, you go down there and it all depended on the weather when I was living in Bristol. So if the weather was shite, then it was, you'd have to be off your face. You'd have to be off your face to enjoy it. The chances are already work. Oh, absolutely, yeah. I mean, some of the sites you see in that place is not a small one. But now Guns N' Roses, 88, Hershey Park, that was my best one. People are saying there, Williams has a way to electric picnic in 2009 where I show you they were a folk and brilliant in slang. But I tell you, they were brilliant. Cassabian played that day. The prodigy, I think, joined them that day for the only time on the tour. The prodigy joined the races that slain that day. And the prodigy were bananas. Like, yeah, man, what's his name? Was it Keith Flint? Is that his name of the prodigy? Was it? Was it his name? Come on, that's one of these helped me out. And he... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was it. The main fella of the prodigy, right? He literally walked on the stage. They wheeled this fucking thing out behind him, right? It was like, it was probably 20 foot wide, 15 foot high. And it just had loads of, like, looked like loy bulbs on it. And they just must have heard a switch and it was like fucking 400 strobe lights behind them, gone fucking berserk for about 50 minutes. And he just went mad for 50 minutes, then just fucked off. And it was like, people are like, that was fucking amazing. So, give me yours doing a best gig, worst gig. Oh, best gig. Don't say last night, which I best gig. Coldplay, but quality last night. Bro, as long as... Yeah, I know, but it's not as long anymore, really. It's not as long anymore as this. Er, in reke in glaciers in the terrain, it was quality. Fuck off. Honestly, it's good to wear it, it's quality. And, er, worst was... Why did he get that in reke in glaciers? Julio in glaciers was the worst one. He's roidin' everyone. (laughing) Erm, worst was Ed Sheer in Phoenix Park. What were you doin' there? I wish I'd done I was a mistake. It was rude. It was just a mistake, I don't want to talk about it. Er, was he brutal? Oh, sure. Is he any good? A lot of no. Is he not? No. Are you a great child? Like, he was great, the child's great hits, but, sure he loves. Yeah, but he used to do this thing a while back in a really annoying, where he pretended he was randomly walking through a shop and centre. And, like, there was a girl in the middle of the shop and centre, a boss can sing in a song, and he's, "Oh, look, I can hear my song." And he goes up and says, "Well, look, I'm hearing." You're like, "Oh, my God, it's so planned." It's up at hand, it's fucking random, like, you know what I mean? Sixteen different angles. Yeah. Yeah, where's the 27 cameras on you? Yes. It's all random. And where you get make-up done in H.M.B. But, you know, Jesus, a glacier stop, it played here. What? It was quality, wasn't it? He was feeding people of vodka and everything he was. He was like in home. Yeah, this is something. You drive in home, he goes, "Yeah, part of down his neck, now you're not anymore." He said. Jesus Christ. In Spanish, obviously. In Spanish, obviously, you stand there going, "Oh, I'm barely a Spanish. I've done Spanish in my journey," I said, "You know exactly what he's saying." But now, let me see if anyone has any good, good, bad, or indifferent. My job is, I'm saying, they're sure, any band where the low show is a selling point is peddling music with a lot of fuck that is. And in a way, since I've ripped off the beat, the beat was in the smith. No, honestly, my adroit, relaxed, calm down, right? It wasn't about the low show. It was just the fact that he came out on stage, the prodigy. He crashed all these lights. Like, there was millions of lights, like, you know, banging around the place, and she might be talking about a cold play here, but I'm taking it as the prodigy. But look, you know, there's loads of lights on set, but he just walked out, and literally, every light was torn up, except for him, this wall, it looked like it was mad, made him, and he just switched it, just clogged him to an extension, and he was like, "Oh, Pete, I have your fucking golf video, I built it, it was fucking brilliant." Let me see. Is there any gigs in here? If you ask that question, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Best claim concert for entertainment was Robbie Williams, is Robin McGuire. There you go, Robbie Williams. Chris Gold and Prince 88 in a tiny club in Rotterdam. Ah, fucking edgy Guerrero here, look, Prince 88 in a tiny club in Rotterdam. Wars gig, boy or hazard in the typically, great four songs, and then a Roya says, "Chris Gold." Let me see. She was talking about a cold play, I was going to say, don't say that. I have a topology. I don't even, I didn't even know the topology were on that day, he just arrived, it was a great crack. The very electric picnic, the Becca witness, says William McConan, I think that's the best or most. Paul says, "Oh, he lived in the Prodigies hometown, and he did a free gig a few years back, and it was incredible, like honestly, like the two standout gigs, says S. Morphe, S.T. Morphe, Aussie Osborne, a deaf leopard in a tiny club, both secret gigs, look, fucking edgy everyone. Right? Relax." Yeah, well, when usual, I was fucking standing on electric picnic, I was actually in the Dawson lounge, where eight people watching fucking, watching Aussie Osborne and deaf leopard to give it over. I wouldn't let myself a little edgy one, you're going to laugh at this one, saying Aslan, loif in Tesco, clear it all, you're going to see Aslan back in the day, down and loark. They used to do every single, you know what I'd say for Aslan is? All over the country, and I've seen them when they were, they went, they went from the old pubes right up to, you know, they should have done the tree arena, I don't know if they've ever done the point, but they went really up to, like, the vicar street and stuff, and the funny thing is, they could have been monstrous, only for the Rafael I was, was fucking away with the fairies, and they had to fuck him out and then he'd come back. But they could have been huge, and even Bono says it, Bono says it, like, you know, Bono's a bit of an age, but he knows music, and he knows that Bono, he's a billionaire, whatever, and he said, if they'd have been on the road track, Aslan could have been anything they wanted to be, and they're just not what they used to be, I don't think they ever will be. Cantros says, "Best gig, Shaley World, Shaley World, American toil hotel, Sydney 2000, if you are there, you know, I don't know how many people were there, Cantros Buret sounds whopper." At least you didn't say, well, it was, you know, at least you didn't say, well, it was a private gig I went to, and the lounge of this fucking thing, like, Steam Orpheon, Chris. But, yeah, that's about it. We finished on a random, where we are, we're over an hour, we set the CAF 40, 40 minutes for an hour. Yeah, we've got 240 bytes. Paying the whole of this, CAF. No. But we could have left only for Dylan, come on, start asking, like, the maga, but he did go on much, I mean, Rica and Glazus, par vodka there on people's throat, and said it was the best gig he's ever been at, so that'll do for me on a Monday, I'm going to keep Dylan there where we finish up the show, that's being kept, that's being kept, that's being Dylan, Super Disl is being on, Mitch was on, who else was on, Mac, we tried to get brewing on, brewing just come on, I went, yeah, more internet's fucked, and then disappeared, which was great crack, but we tried this car, and again, we might just do random questions the next time, fuck, fuck, pop up, because we are in the international break. That's being it, talk to you in a bit, over and out. This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. [BLANK_AUDIO]
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