This is not nom, this is bowling, they're a rule! T-T-A-JUNY-A! America! *Screams* Stike. FOUR! BASTEST! So stand by! Well, alright everybody, welcome back to the Steak for Breakfast podcast. Second of two big Friday editions of the show today, I'm Ron Fly and Solo. If you're a first-time listener, welcome to the show. If you're a long-time listener, welcome back to America's fastest-growing. And quickly becoming favorite political podcast. Consequently, if you're listening to this episode first today, we'll see you in a bit just press pause, go back and check out our first edition of the show, episode 446, featured Texas Representative Keith Self and the Executive Secretary of the New York Young Republican Club. Mr. Vishpur, we talked about Donald Trump as he delivered remarks up in Porterville, Michigan yesterday. In addition, broke down the first and what will probably be the last interview that Kamala Harris has given since she became the Democrat nominee. So check out that episode first and we're going to jump right into it here, kind of piggyback it off where we finished on our last show and that was a little bit of review on Kamala Harris' performance. And I want to play a little bit more of the breakdown as they saw it last night on CNN. Let's jump right into it. Because they can be combat, they can be a conversation. And what she needed to do was communicate and so often in the past, she comes to an interview in a way prepared to be the interrogator. And people already know she's good at asking sharp, tough questions of people who she feels deserve scrutiny. It's her being under that scrutiny that has been where the stakes have been higher. And I think today it did show that she has the ability to sit down and have that back and forth that Republicans are talking about, can she really do it? So how many more times? I don't know how much that matters. And I do get a little nervous that in the media we're preoccupied with like how much access, how many conversations is she going to have in the settings we deem most valuable to voters when this is a campaign that is actually making a mark in an interesting way reaching out to people directly. So there you have it. Basement candidacy confirmed. That was Audie Cornish, I guess you can call her a commentator from NPR saying that she's concerned that Kamala Harris is going to be forced to provide too many receipts to the American electorate by, well, slur her ways through interviews like she did on CNN last night. You know, there was also a little bit of fact checking that went on as well. They did a segment on the same network following that panel. But you know, there was some other commentary before we get into the next clip that showed, I mean, David Axelrod says she didn't move the needle to the point that he felt was appropriate. And I mean, again, the mainstream press is comparing her to girl Barack Obama and as someone who served on Barack Obama's campaign as a top advisor and was around the president for the entire time that he was in office, he knows that she's not at some point this paper tiger is going to get holes bunched in her figuratively, of course. And then, you know, there was another commentator on there that said, well, you know, if you look at it in the, in the way we look at football games, you know, she had a couple good sustained drives but didn't really get the ball in the end zone, whatever the hell that meant. And it's the truth. There was no slam dunks here. There was no gotcha moments against Donald Trump. There was no nothing. You know, they want to talk about the height of COVID and January 6th and extreme MAGA Republicans and not talk about any of the good things that happened under Donald Trump's first term in office. And if they're going to continue to offer that as the only alternative for what's going on now, I think at some point, even in the very short amount of time we have before election day and even early voting starts. It's not sustainable for them. So again, CNN fact checked, Kamala Harris on a couple of different things last night. I pulled a quick clip of it. Let's check it out. Bottom line, Abby, is that she did not actually make clear at a 2020 debate that she had changed her previous support for a fracking ban. So let me take you through this kind of saga. So here's what she said at a CNN climate town hall in 2019 on the subject of a fracking ban. Will you commit to implementing a federal ban on fracking your first day in office, adding the United States, the list of countries who have banned this devastating practice? There's no question I'm in favor of banning fracking. So, yeah. That was quite clear. So she ended her 2020 presidential run in December 2019. The only debate she participated in in 2020 was the general election debate with then vice president Mike Pence. I went over the transcript of that debate tonight. Nowhere in there, does she make clear that she had abandoned her previous support for a fracking ban? Rather, she repeated that Joe Biden, the head of the Democratic ticket at the time, would himself not ban fracking. So listen to what she actually said in that 2020 debate. Joe Biden will not end fracking. He has been very clear about that. I will repeat, and the American people know, that Joe Biden will not ban fracking. So it makes perfect sense that at the time she was speaking on behalf of Biden, the president, not the vice president, sets administration policy. But maybe other people feel differently. I certainly do not hear anywhere in there, Kamala Harris saying that she personally had abandoned her previously expressed 2019 view, rather again, she was speaking for Joe Biden. So I guess CNN is not going to give them the freest of passes. But again, it's not the kind of scrutiny you would think for the campaign that they've ran so far that you would expect to be getting dissected in the mainstream press. They're just going to continue to astro turf. They're going to continue to have voices like that who provided fact checking measures for Kamala Harris. But at the same time, he'll be one person in a brief segment and then they'll have a panel of six people where five of them are all pro for the regime. And there's only one person, consequently, for the last several months, it's been Scott Jennings, who's going to be a voice of reason. But as soon as he stops talking, like at least two or three people on the panel, just absolutely try and bury him. So it's going to take the work of us educating people, getting involved physically in this election. That's the poll watchers. For 47 people, that's a predictive vote.com people that's everything we need to ensure that this goes as seemingly as possible on election day. We see all these things going on in states. There was a lawsuit by the RNC this week suing Detroit after learning the city hired seven times more Democrat than Republicans as poll workers for this upcoming election. This comes as a lot of these blue states, battlegrounds, Rust Belt, Blue Wall, are all trying to not let everybody know that there's thousands of foreign nationals on all of their voter rolls. As the RNC and the Trump campaign continue to try and shine light on it, we've seen it in places like North Carolina, we've seen it in places like Texas, Wisconsin, Michigan. And we got to keep every day pushing back as hard as we can. You know, it's a shame that it's come to this and that our electorate is essentially a joke. Election season instead of election day or election week. Sometimes you don't get results for days, even weeks at a time. Counts being stopped in the middle of the night, water mains, breaking, et cetera. We have to be able to better conduct our elections and it starts, starts on November 5th of this year with as many people on the Magaside being involved as possible. JD Vance and Kamal Harris crisscrossed on the campaign trail this week. The vice presidential nominee and the Republican side making stops in Wisconsin. I believe North Carolina, also Michigan. And you know, he's out there promoting the message of MAGA. And one of the things that JD Vance wants to highlight is the forgotten men and women, something that Donald Trump used as a major talking point and a promise that I believe was promised kept just based off of the immense economic success he had in his first term. But again, the middle class has been under attack for 12 out of the last 16 years with Democrats in the White House. First it was the housing market, then it was the auto workers, and it was the airlines. Then it was BLM and M Tifa. And now under Joe Biden, it's been the economy, the hardworking blue collar, middle class of the United States has just been under attack unrelentlessly for nearly the last 20 years. And I think Donald Trump has really revamped up the promise to make sure that this large portion of our country, the gears that makes the machine work, won't be forgotten. JD Vance was hitting it on the campaign trail this week, let's hear it. But I know that a lot of Americans prayed for that second chance, and thank God we got it. But a lot of Americans prayed for other things, they prayed for good jobs, they prayed for their towns to have prosperity, they prayed for their parents to overcome the scourge of addiction. And in 2016, a lot of those prayers were answered, my friends, weren't they? After a generation of Americans being ignored by their leaders, Americans spoke with a unified voice, and you know what they said, they said no more bullshit, and they sent Donald J. Trump to the White House. You know, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have been the newest two empty suits at the controls of this country that have led to the great American decline. Whether you want to look at it that way or not, it's the truth. And things are so unobtainable right now, like home ownership, like being able to provide with one good, solid job with having a family that's able to do things, whether it be a vacation once or twice a year, or an inclusion for their kids in sports or clubs or activities because of the cost of everything. You know, it's not like parents don't want to do things. I mean, I'll use mine as an example, and we've asked them, I've got two kids, they play four sports between them, two each, all high level club travel, et cetera. And you know, you ask why the cost from like 2020 to now has at least tripled just for registration. That's not talking about games and refs and equipment. And you go and talk to these people who run these programs, and they're pretty transparent with it. They say, well, you want to know what? The cost to rent fields has doubled or tripled in the last four or five years. The costs to have insurance as part of our program, whether it be Pop Warner or travel baseball, club soccer or volleyball, you know, we have to have some kind of insurance in addition to yours when we use these facilities for practice and for tournaments. The fees of refs have doubled or tripled because, listen, they got to get up in the morning and drive and be out there all day with the kids, and if it costs more to put gas in your car to get from point A to point B, and then it also costs more to grab a meal at the snack bar in between events, well, of course, they're going to charge more from the umpire and referee associations. It's just natural consequence of the policies that we've been under during two terms of Barack Obama and this one under Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. And you know, you take that into the equation of everything else, a small component, you know, kids' activities. You're talking about putting food on your table, hot meal every night. That in a lot of instances across the country right now is unsustainable. You talk about the ability to keep a roof over your head with the cost of mortgages going up and homeowners insurance going through the roof, all insurance is exploding over the course of the last couple of years. And the fact that illegals are getting everything for free, whether it be debit cards now to buy food, because the food that the government was providing for them was deemed inadequate by all of these NGOs and big lobby groups that come in and sue the government on behalf of the people that are here illegally, the health care system where they could walk into whether it be an emergency room, a pediatric visit, a dentist's office, and get gold star treatment and walk out and not have to pay a dime. The education system where people who don't speak English are getting inserted and overwhelming and overcrowding these classrooms and them having to do ESL programs, that puts a large financial burden to bring in the people qualified to do that kind of curriculum application in schools. And it's just like one thing after another, and everything's, you know, connected through energy, whether it be the cost of electricity, air conditioning, heat, or the fuel it takes to sustain every business from, you know, a restaurant to a school or a hospital as the prices of gas and energy have gone through the roof. You know, there's people in Southern California who are just regular people who every month are getting a bill that's between like five and seven hundred dollars just for keeping the lights on, the stoves working. It's ridiculous. You can't water your lawn because climate change, you know, it's not one thing. It's the other and we have to break free of this system that's been forced on us for nearly the last two decades or the middle class will no longer exist in this country. The people who ever, every feel good story that you ever heard about America usually comes out of the middle class and we just won't have that anymore. We're having babies at a drastically larger clip. We have to make starting families great again here in America. And JD Vance is out there promoting that and saying, listen, we know that out of the last 16 years for 12 of them, you've been thrown under the bus, but we promise we won't forget about you again. And you know, it's just, it's crazy. So, and listen, you know we're doing well, regardless of what the polls say, regardless of what the media is doing in regards to astroturfing, this candidacy, this fallacy of Kamala Harris, the whole idea of her, because I guess you saw just breaking this week that Trump was indicted again by Jack Smith. And it's in regards to, this is a superseding indictment in his federal election subversion case, something that was already, for the most part, ruled on and decided by the US Supreme Court in regards to presidential immunity. You know, as the news broke across the Swire, JD Vance was going from one campaign stop to another. I believe one of these was with his mother, which he had on the campaign trail this week. They caught him on the tarmac, heading from the plane to the cars. They caught him for a brief talking point. Let's hear it. Yeah, I haven't read the whole thing, but it looks like Jack Smith doing more than what he does, which is filing these absurd lawsuits in an effort to influence the election. I mean, the one thing that I did see, which I felt was just classic lipstick on a pig is, you know, of course, the reason the Supreme Court throughout his lawsuit is because they said it implicated the president's official acts, of course, which the president has immunity and conducting those official acts. And yet Jack Smith tried to redefine Mike Pence as from the vice president to the running made as if somehow changing those words in an indictment undercuts the fact that Mike Pence is still the sitting vice president, and it still directly implicates the president's official acts. So I don't think that a change is anything legally. I think it's clearly an effort to try to do more election interference from Jack Smith. Yep. He should be ashamed of himself. And it's one of the reasons why we have to win because he should not be anywhere near power. It's the truth, you know, and there are some rules on the books already that says you're not supposed to be doing this stuff within a certain amount of time for election. Obviously, Donald Trump took to his true social as this news was breaking throughout the course of the week. I'm going to read it right now. Is it DOJ policy that the Department of Justice should not take any action that will influence an election within 60 days of that election, but they have just taken such action. Voting starts on September 6 in some states. Therefore, the DOJ has violated its own policy, or as I like to call it, election interference. All of these comrade Kamala slash Biden hoaxes should be immediately dismissed. And we'll have to see where we go from here, you know, there's been reports. Obviously, remember, I believe it's right ahead of the debate is when you have the sentencing that's supposed to be coming down in Manhattan from fat Alvin Bragg and Judge Juan Marchant, the radical grifting getting rich off of these cases that he's prosecuting in his own court against Donald Trump. And will that ever see the light of day? We've heard in some reports that the Alvin Bragg's office might be open to delaying sentencing, but we'll have to say, you know, and will Jack Smith ever get a consequence? First of all, he was unconstitutionally appointed, and that was appointed special counsel outside of the parameters of Congress. Mayor Garland did this 100% on his own, and, you know, it seems like every time he's defeated, whether it be by Judge Cannon down in Florida in regards to the special documents case or trying to change the language and taking 15 pages out of his original indictment and, you know, implicating Donald Trump again for election interference, it seems like that these monsters literally, no, no bounds. They just don't. They don't care, you know, and now every single major news outlet can run with the narrative, the newly re-indicted former President Trump. And what that does outside of the actual filing of it, which is per DOJ statute, unconstitutional because it is less than 60 days before the election. It opens up a whole other can of worms to, you know, we talk about that toothpaste that we can't put back in the tube using this kind of language, the newly re-indicted former President Trump as the lead off of every news hit that comes out. Well, what do you expect people to think? The politically uneducated, the low propensity voters, those who only casually enjoy politics or just open up their internet browser to read a couple headlines and then get out. It makes it very difficult to run a legitimate campaign when illegitimate headlines are clogging up the news cycle. And, you know, JD Vance and Donald Trump are doing the best job they can, but it's not with any help outside of the media. And I guess if what people are really looking for is inflation, higher taxes, gun control, whatever that means, continuation of open borders and then amnesty to go on top of that, continuing to fund forever wars in Ukraine, late or full-term abortions, men and women's sports, trans-surgery for minors, and packing the Supreme Court if they don't just abolish it. Well, they continue to just sit around and do nothing instead of speaking up when this fake news is being ramped up all over the airwaves. I saw a good one this week in addition to the banger that her and the RFK junior people put out. And she did a couple of interviews, she's been in a couple of podcasts, and she was actually talking about when they used to hear the phrase politically persecuted, like her as part of the elite class in this country, would laugh and roll their eyes. But after seeing the law fair that was waged against her and her running mate, RFK junior, in regards to the abilities to be on ballots or participate in elections, run as a Democrat and being forced into you know, independency as the party that they were trying to get in regards to the upcoming election, she can pretty much vouch for the fact that it's real. Let's hear it. And we do have major breaking news. Special counsel Jack Smith has just filed a superseding indictment in the federal election interference case against the former president, Donald Trump. Let's go straight to CNN's Katelyn Poland's, "Hailam, this is just happening right now. What more do we know?" That's right. This is the special counsel's effort to get this case back on the road toward trial. This is the January 6 federal election case in court in Washington, D.C. against Donald Trump. The charges, the four charges that Donald Trump has been facing for quite some time now, they're the same in this what's called a superseding indictment, so a rewritten version of the criminal charges against the former president for conspiracy and other counts related to what he did after the 2020 election. But what the special counsel's office is saying they're doing here is they needed to go back to the grand jury fill and rewrite those charges so that they would incorporate what they need to say that's in line with what the Supreme Court told them they must do. Remember the Supreme Court just in June made that decision on presidential immunity saying that some of the things in this case had to be cut out such as things that were allegations that may be part of Donald Trump's official duties as president, especially his interactions with others below him in the administration. So I'm still going through the superseding indictment documents that we have. It's a 36 page document. And so what we have here now in this filing is that there are co-conspirators listed, but one of those people that we had before that would have been heard by many people on the jury. If they were gone to trial, there would have been a lot of information about that official Jeffrey Clark. He's not one of the co-conspirators anymore. He was justice department official. Now it is six different private people, five private attorneys plus a private political consultant. Those are the people that are called co-conspirators here before the grand jury and now in this indictment against Donald Trump. Hmm. You know, it's funny. Nicole Shanahan says, having gone through her second cross-examination in a ballot access case in places like New York, she knows that the law fair is real. She knows that the system is gaming against candidates who aren't part of the ruling class that don't have control over the media, over Hollywood, over the billionaire donor class. And they were feeling the heat. I think a lot of that, and I'm only speculating, went into the decision that they made, again, taking their minor issues and setting them aside, their minor disagreements and setting them aside and coalescing behind President Trump to make kids healthy again, to end forever wars and to break up the pharmaceutical, the bio-pharmaceutical, industrial complex up in DC, up in the swamp. I think the importance of what that legacy would look like is a lot more important than just running nationally and praying to God you get your 5% so you become a legitimate party and you can end up on future ballots. So yeah, it's a big story, and just one of the ones we're covering out here as part of the reaction to Kamala Harris's media hit. I think a lot of this stuff was kind of thrown out there ahead of time. We're going to talk about another major component and that's internet censorship after we do our station identification. Guys, wherever you're listening to the show today, welcome. This is the first new segment in the second of two big Friday editions of the State of Breakfast podcast. Do us a huge favor. We talked about it in the top of our first show today. We need your help. 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Like our interview with Indiana Congresswoman Victoria Sparks coming up at the end of this news segment. So there have been, you know, the news reports lately about Mark Zuckerberg saying, I'm sorry, for all the censorship that, you know, he allowed to be permitted on his meta platforms during the 2020 presidential election, things regarding COVID election integrity. You name it, how many accounts were erased or shadow banned out of existence and how many people just quit social media because it felt like every time you opened up your mouth, you were losing the opportunity to do so on these platforms. Well, there's a little bit more of a backstory here. So apparently, and what led up to the production of this letter in part came after a meeting at a UFC event between Mark Zuckerberg and a very unlikely person that's pretty beloved in America. First, I'm talking about with Vikram Swami. He explained it in interviews this week, let's check it out. See 300 fight cage side and Mark Zuckerberg was there too. So we had a chat in between some of the fights. He's really into MMA and say, you know, we've become so neutered as a country, right? Why shouldn't we just embrace that we have these humanistic, I've grown to like MMA quite a bit. So I was like, yeah, I agree with you. I said, well, what about that with respect to speech? How do you feel about that? And then he got a pause for a second. He said, well, what do you mean? I said, well, I think you'd actually make the same argument for just saying that you get to say what you want in this country. We've become too neutered by trying to have central moderators of who decides what you can and can't say. You know, his response was, well, look, I'm actually a lot more pro-free speech than people might know. And I've actually known a lot of his own tendencies. I believe that's actually probably true. It's about bending the knee and buckling the pressure. And so what I told him, and he said he would think about it, is if you say you're pro-free speech and you actually mean it, to just say, hey, I screwed up, lock in Donald Trump out of an account, a major president of the United States and making the decision under pressure. And I screwed up. If you said that, I think that would have a therapeutic effect on the country. That's a form of accountability. There's a part of us that wants vengeance, but there's also part of us that is hungry to forgive. And I know there's some people who probably heard the Zuckerberg interview this week. He sat down on a podcast and, you know, he was talking about what he was feeling in the moments after the assassination of an attempt on President Trump's life up in Butler, Pennsylvania, 47 days ago, and how that made him feel like, honestly, like a chess-beating American and thought in the moment, the courage that Donald Trump displayed was unparalleled to anything he'd ever seen outside of Hollywood. But he stopped short of saying that he might be the next person from outside of the Republican apparatus to come in and endorse President Trump. But you know, you have to understand and take into consideration in addition to, you know, the COVID stuff, the election integrity stuff, there was the 51 former intelligence officials and Hunter Biden laptop. And now there is evidence that the White House directly pressured meta to illegally censor factual information about COVID, the election, and Hunter's laptop. And the person responsible for this was the former director of digital strategy for the Obama administration, Rob Flaherty, who now, much like former administration officials and staffers, like Mr. Plough, well, Rob Flaherty is now Kamala Harris's deputy campaign manager. So will they be using the same political capital that they felt like they had during the pandemic to reach out to these entities and see if they will censor them in this upcoming segment. I guess we're going to have to see. I did promise a little Kamala Harris during the segment. We already heard from JD Vance and a couple clips. I do want to bring a couple clips of Kamala Harris just to show you guys how absolutely awful she looked on the campaign trail this week. She spoke in an event in Atlanta and, you know, they had it packed full of people, probably promised them a concert or it was just all of the staffers who are going to be working at the election centers in the upcoming election. But you know, listen, you're in the deep south. You're getting panned or two with the southern accent. You can listen to it throughout the course of the couple clips that I've put together. First one, I started talking about people being out of their minds. Let's check it out. He would create a national anti-abortion coordinator and force states to report on women's miscarriages and abortions. It's right there in Project 2025. 100% not true. I've said it before and I'll say it again, simply put, they are out of their minds. And I don't know why the seals clap for that, but it's just really interesting to see how they use these talking points like Project 2025. I can't even get it through my thick skull and I don't know why people don't tell her more often. You know, and there should be FEC, SEC, you know, campaign oversight, governance, something out there that puts, I don't want to say restrictions, just bumpers on the rhetoric. I mean, once it's been completely debunked and Donald Trump says I'm not going to nationally ban abortion, I'm not getting rid of IVF. I have no direct connection to Project 2025 and here's why. That you would get fined and it'd be made very public to continue to say this stuff over and over again. You know, there was a less than 30 second clip we just heard of Kamala Harris where she said Donald Trump's going to pass into law a nationwide abortion ban and weaponize that using literature within the pages of Project 2025. Two things that just 100% aren't true, but we don't get that. We get fake news media continuing to pump this out as their show leads in. And, you know, again, what is this? What is her campaign all about? It's about orange man bad and Donald Trump can't win at all costs. It doesn't matter if we're going to continue to bankrupt this country. It doesn't matter if we're going to continue to fund forever wars. It doesn't matter if we ever have a border again around our country. It's about stopping Donald Trump and that's the only thing that's about, right? Saving democracy because Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans are a threat to it. Let me just say something, let me just say something. We are fighting for a democracy. Everyone has a right and should have their voices heard. I am speaking now, but on the subject. Well, I'm speaking. Mr. Vice President. I will say this. The president and I are working around the clock. We've got to get a hostage deal done and get a ceasefire done now. She says her and the president are working on a Hoss's negotiation around the clock when Joe Biden is in his ninth straight day of sleeping on the beach. And I've said the best one for last, listen, I don't know how many people can translate what Kamala Harris is saying out there, again, her speech sounded a little slurred, her accent was a little playing and if you could tell me what this word salad means, I'll give you an extra credit point at the end of the episode. Let's check it out. He even called the termination of the United States Supreme, the Supreme Land of our nation, the United States Constitution. I know it's not Noah's favorite clip, but I have to be completely honest with you. What in the actual. The supreme constitution of land, Constitution, Supreme school buses are yellow. I like Venn diagrams rockets go into space deep breaths. We made it through and you want to know what Donald Trump and Tulsi Gabbard held a town hall yesterday in the battleground state. We're going to be covering that in our last news segment of the week. We're getting ready to jump in with Congresswoman Victoria Sparks right now, but before we do, how about another check in with one of our partners. Friends, I want to take a minute and talk to you about cigars. Whether you're on the golf course, fishing on the lake or doing some yard work around the house, our friend Alan has got you covered. He's launched the Patriot Cigar Company. The tobacco is handpicked in the fields in Nicaragua right next to where Mike Lindell picks his coffee beans. Cigars are hand rolled each three years. You're going to promo code stake here, you're going to get 15% off your total order. Every order over $100 free shipping and a $10 gift card is included with every purchase. Mypatriot cigars.com. That's mypatriot cigars.com, a premium smoke for freedom loving patriots. All right, joining us next on the show today, this is Big Friday edition of the Stake for Records podcast. She's the Congresswoman who represents Indiana's fifth congressional district. Always great to catch up with representative Victoria Sparks. Welcome back to the show. Well, thank you, always happy to do some no BS talk and talk about what's really happening. Thank you for having me. There's people who bring the fire and fury. There are people who are fiery but mostly peaceful. You seem to find your way to navigate around all of them, but here we are and we are going to have a great conversation as we always do when we get to host you, Congresswoman. Listen, we have to talk about the presidential race. I think it's the number one item that's filling up the news cycle, even though the economy is still terrible. The border is wide open. We've got a mini budget battle forming on Capitol Hill right now, but I think now that the conventions are over, the dog days of summer in regards to general election cycle are now completed and we're in the downhill sprint to November 5th, early voting, starting in some states as soon as a month away, and I kind of want to get, you know, your breakdown how you've seen this formulate, obviously, we talked to you after the RNC. You gave us some great commentary on how you thought everybody was kind of coming together and working coherently. You like the ticket and how they kind of hit the trail running afterwards. Now, the Kamala Harris has officially been the nominee for the Democrats and added Minnesota Governor Tim Walts as her running mate. They really haven't told or shown or done anything to offer any kind of solutions for the American people. So as far as Washington goes, they'll probably fit right in. I'm sure you'll have some commentary on that. But how do you see this head-to-head matchup shaping up? Well, listen, you know, I always say never underestimate your position and you have to give credit to the other side. They have a very good presentation skills. They've been lying to the American people for a while, but they're good at that. They're very deceitful. They have a mainstream media machine working for them and getting paid by them to write hit pieces against Republicans and harass them and really promote people with no policy nor gender. But I would say, by the radical policy, they're very good at somehow the people that want to have good economy, good job, good education, protect your rights, have the future policy and somehow we're radical, but people that want to take your money, take government control, give money to their friends, take all your constitutional rights, these people are moderate in common sense. This doesn't make sense, but I think we need to do a better job in getting out and show what our policies are and how we can govern. So I think it's our job. So this is a battle. It's a major league. So we cannot underestimate them and I hate to tell you, but I listened. I was on the flight, so I kind of was stuck on the flight, so I was actually listening to the whole speech of Vice President Harris and what did other people there. I was like, "What? This is like a joke." What they're saying? But they presented it like when you listen to them, you think, "Oh, this is the normal commons and people." It seems like they have all the hit the right talking points, but it's all talking points and lies and hypocrisy and we need to call them out. Speaking of the lies and hypocrisy, it seems like not via Kamala Harris officially but through all of her campaign staffers and vice presidential staffers who were leaking it to softball outlets like Axios and Politico and the Wall Street Journal. It seems like she's open-minded on just about every America-first policy that she's ever campaigned on, ran against, or even passed legislation on throughout the course of her political career. And I'm talking about everything from solving the problems with the economy, sealing the U.S. southern border, ending all the wars across the planet, and even building a border wall. What do you think about the flip-flops? Well, listen, these people are very clever. What they do, they pull what is important for the American people. They say right things when the people want to hear. And then behind people's back, do whatever they want, and they do completely opposite things. And the problem is now, I mean, it's good for the shows like yours, at least you can have some conversation directly with the American people. But unfortunately, American people don't hear that. No one calls them out for their lives. So if you look at their record, if you look at what they push, and they put very extreme liberal, communist socialist agendas through Congress, and forcing and bankrupting the country, and American people in future generations, taking control of the economy, means of production, actually, through the definition of socialism by Karl Marx, they have the socialist policies from the literature level of communist policies, but then they come back and do this presentation with a smile, and that is the challenge that we have right now. But they've been good at that, and unfortunately, media is so corrupt, and a lot of people catering to them, and they never ask them tough questions. They don't have to answer, but I think people need to wake up, and I hope American people start waking up. No, I certainly hope they do, too. That's another follow-up question I wanted to ask you. Do you think, after what happened during the pandemic, the questions that surround the 2020 presidential election, and all the things we've seen afterwards, everything from Mark Zuckerberg apologizing about censoring people on social media to Elon Musk, and how he's been able to kind of open up places like X, you know, has America woken up, or is there still too many people out there taking pictures of their food at restaurants, and those low propensity, low information voters are the ones that are going to make the difference in this election cycle, so we really have to hammer it home. Well, listen, I think, you know, more people are waking up, but unfortunately it's so hard to get honest information anymore. That's actually, I'm doing my district town halls, where I can have a note, I'm the only actually federal representatives are doing, or maybe even state, that open town halls in the state of Indiana, because it gives me an opportunity to talk directly to the people I represent, and people talk directly to me. So I have this honest conversation, and you would be surprised, there is probably not as much division as politicians try to say, you know, there is actually a lot of things that we have a lot of common ground on, you know, so I think it's actually very healthy to have this, but then most people, politicians are hiding and not doing it, so people don't hear the truth, so I think a lot of people don't realize and don't get engaged and then wait until politics hits them in the head, so I think we need to take an extra effort, try to reach out to people that normally don't pay attention, you know, so I think more people do, but still not enough to be able to truly drain the swamp and put pressure in the sea, you know, but it's, you know, unfortunately, you know, we want my people set pay attention when crisis is happening, and we have a lot of them looming, so people will start waking up, but we need to have good people, right people with right policies in the room, so at least if we cannot govern by leadership, when we govern by crisis, we actually have good solutions to these crises. Yeah, that's a great point that you make, and then as I kind of want to segue in the questioning here, I do want to talk about you guys reconvening soon up on Capitol Hill. There is rumblings, as we should be no surprise to anyone here on the show or yourself who brings it harder when talking about your congressional counterparts, and I think about any of the guests we have on here, you're a true realist and you talk about the, you know, sometimes bleak situation up there, they are looking at possibility of a budget badger going on, you know, this is going to be the band aid that takes one administration to the next, there are a lot of people who are hopeful and optimistic that Donald Trump's going to be the next commander in chief, so, you know, you want to be able to level that ground out while appropriations are going on behind the scenes, hopefully cutting back some of the spending, because again, the, you know, trillions of dollars that we're adding to the national debt every 30, 100 days, et cetera, is just unsustainable for our country right now. But as you see this kind of coming into, you know, the near view now, as you guys are getting ready to head back up to the Hill, what do you think are some of the things that are going to be major talking points in regards to the budget? Well, listen, I want to be optimistic, but I'm most a realist and I also, you know, have a, any more, I have even low expectations of Congress that I have, I had, I always said, I had very low expectations of Congress and it exceeded my expectations, unfortunately. So we'll have, you know, I was on the podcast, I think, Senator Lee recently and he was talking about how he has some hopes that, you know, we have stay-backed, maybe added to appropriations, some good legislation. Well, I do not know my, my, seeing what's happening in the Senate, I, I, I'm very, very pessimistic that is going to happen. So we'll have a lot of messaging, a lot of ground standing, we're going to show that we're trying to fight and really do something, but truly, you know, I was trying to fight and take the Hill. You have to, I always say you need to pick a Hill stood on, but take them and at least pick one Hill. I mean, you talk about social media censorship, we still could never even pass, you know, privacy, we couldn't even put it on the floor, including under Republican Congress, Section 230 reforms, we couldn't put there, dealing with healthcare transparency, we were not willing to fight for that and take that Hill. We were not willing for the border security to take the Hill. So I want to be optimistic, maybe there is something changing with the Senate elections and maybe more senators there are moving in our directions because they have tough races, you know, Senator Lee maybe knows, you know, you know, more than I do, what's happening really on the ground. But I'm honestly, I'm realistically, I don't think nothing major, we're going to be able to deliver. And it's sad for me to see that under Republican leadership in the House, we were not able to deliver, you know, we may just stop some damage, but Democrats still advance their agenda. They're actually, their success is incremental advance in the agenda. And our success is old, we helped them not to be as bad, but how do we advance in our agenda? People are elected to advance our agenda to things good for the Americans that we promise them. So what did we advance? We advanced nothing under divided House, so at least we need to something. So maybe something will happen, but we'll see. But I'm very cautious, optimistic, but I'm not really, realistically saying it's going to be big success. I like the way you framed it, and then you'd mentioned the SAVE Act, that's something I want to talk to you about. I mean, great piece of legislation, something that it looks like President Trump and Speaker Johnson kind of collabed on to, you know, possibly attach to this budget. But the question I have is, you know, the election is in two months. And if this comes for the end of September budget appropriation process, and let's just say some miracle happens, God really touches this and it gets signed into law. The implementation of such piece of legislation, one where the verbiage is on the books in a lot of states federally throughout the country, you know, there's long standing pieces of legislation all over America and ones that are national legislation that say, you know, legal aliens and non-citizens cannot vote in federal elections, especially ones that are presidential. Do you think that this is something, another minor hill? We won't even call it a hill, a mole hill, maybe for Republicans to try and die on this close to the election, do you think this could possibly turn off voters who don't see or understand what the Save Act is all about? You know, obviously the mainstream media is going to say, like, Republicans are trying to pass a bill that is already law or is already statute and, you know, the possibility of a government shutdown, maybe a month out from election day, I think might hurt more than help, but I kind of want your insight on it. I mean, it's a piece of legislation that should be a slam dunk, no brainer, if something like this comes along, either party should just 100% pass it and get it up to the president's desk, but we don't live in reality, we live in this kind of, you know, funky multiverse that we've been operating in for the last decade or so here in America. So when something comes out like this, you know, it's voter suppression, it's racist, it's all these other things that it's really not, but that's kind of the reality we have to face. Well, yeah, and that's like realistically, I mean, it would be good if we could deliver something that's not going to change anything for this election. Or this election, we should have passed it a while ago, right? Because you don't even have time to implement states, most of states don't even have processes. It's not that easy, Democrats will start suing, it will go through the courts, it will say it's a discrimination voter suppression, it'll go the drama, but a lot of states don't even have the processes. When I was state senator a while ago, I actually passed legislation to have post-election audits, including for citizenship. And where's the state of Indiana didn't even have capability, so I had to do it as a pilot to do it. And I'm not sure even state since I left was able to advance, and we're talking about Republican super majority state, okay? I'm not talking about some liberal state that have lawlessness there, right? They don't even have legal frameworks to do it. And a lot of this is combination between states law, federal law. So this is the process that we discussed four years ago that we need to deal, we need to strengthen legal frameworks, works as a state, make sure that, you know, people have trust in election and we, you know, mitigate opportunities for fraud as much as we can, but that is too late right now, right? So it's not going to change any sense for this election. This election, we need to make sure we have ducks in the row, have good inspectors, good observers and trained properly people in the areas and have good lawyers dealing with issues, and then actually have proper stuff in and everything else in counties that have significant risk that they control by, you know, by a lot of Democrats, counties and clerks that have lawlessness there. And we, a lot of times, do not have good Republican party in these counties, so we don't have inspectors that understand the rules, the watchers, so everything else, or they inspect to violate the rules and how people don't know how to challenge. This is what is going to happen. This is what needed at this point for this election, you know, but I mean, it's a good thing if we can advance something maybe for the future, because ultimately, you know, it puts some more pressure on the state than to deal with that. But I don't think that's something that they're trying to, you know, go beyond messages. I haven't seen, you know, actually my side picking hills to take. So we would have to go and say, we are going to shut down the economy on this hill. We were not able to even win it on the border security, we're going to, this is national security issues. And we've phoned it on that. I mean, not all of us, but enough for this, you know, is Democrats voted to fault, right? And pass all this mass pass legislation without border security, without fiscal commission dealing with health skin death, without big tech and privacy protections, you know, we've woken a lot of these different things and we never fought for them. So maybe we'll try to do it, but we better start messaging, you know, now not like two days before it, because we're going to be destroyed. What are we going to be starting down the economy on, right? Because they're going to make it as bad as painful as possible, you know, and this will be very hard to explain to the American people what we're doing and things are complicated and media is not our side. So we're going to start doing it before the economy shut down. It's a joke. It's just messaging. It's not going to happen. It should have been already started in a while ago, so we can communicate to broader American people. What is really important? Well, that's an excellent point. And you know, as we kind of get to ready to wrap here, I do want to go back to the presidential race and ask you a question that I meant to in the beginning, but I think we kind of wrap it up here. So listen, Congressman, last time you were on, you talked about the unified party. It seemed like it was coming out of the RNC. I think, you know, a lot of the narrative we've built here on the show, it's the galvanization of that base that Donald Trump's been able to accomplish during this election cycle that's allowed him to kind of branch out and bring in people like Tucker Carlson, who's a conservative but more of a libertarian, Elon Musk, who obviously was not a fan of President Trump in the last election cycle. And then more recently with the additions of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard is people that are not only, you know, coming out to support Donald Trump, but they're going to be endorsing him, campaigning with them, and working on the transition team possibly in the next administration as well. When you talk about messaging and that Donald Trump said at the RNC as part of his speech that he is running to be the president of everyone in the United States, not just the president of the Republican Party, do you think that this was a good enough job that he's doing right now? Obviously, they're looking to add more people to the team to kind of widen that tent and make more Americans see like, listen, you might not have liked Donald Trump for the past for a reason, XYZ, but look at the people that he's bringing in that have like turned over a new leaf that have kind of let their inhibitions go, check their egos out the door and understand that like the problems we have in this country right now, the problems that are going on in Eastern Europe and the Middle East are way bigger than Republican versus Democrat. And it's going to take a real leader to get this country back on the right track and get a captain at the helm that's going to steer the ship back into, you know, American prosperity. Well, listen, I think if President Trump's talk about policy and ideas and the future and how we're going to grow economy, how we secure our country, how we can stabilize the world with his mass and not let our adversaries to advance like that. If he talks about policy and what he's going to bring to the table and bring this prosperity for the people and fix its economy and fix a lot of things, I think a lot of American people, regardless of the party, people are more frustrated with probably both parties more and more, because people see more and more and more Americans see that, you know, that both parties are so broken and in the different ways, I think, you know, the other party moves to socialists, a lot of our party moves to be like Democrats used to be and a lot of issues that people care about, they're not even a janitor, that's all talking points about nothing, you know. So I think if he talks about that, he will engage more and more people with much broader base that maybe we don't agree with on every issues, but there is a common ground, you know, there are a lot of issues, you know, that, you know, that dealing with healthcare, with transparency, with really abusing, you know, our, you know, by big monopolies abusing our farm system, healthcare system, which is really a health of Americans and how all of these agencies are really, you know, becoming pretty much colluded with a lot of this corrupt corporations and being subsidized by the saints for the people. So I think there is a lot more common ground and people from the other side start looking and find like, oh, you know what, it's about policies, it's about some ideas and they will say maybe there is something to that, that's what our party needs to be about. We need to be a generator of policy ideas and talking, or they're afraid to be discussions and dialogues and a lot of this issue, President Trump was willing to go to very controversial groups, you know, not friendly maybe, libertarians and other ones where he talked to them and they say, you know what, maybe I don't like everything, I mean, listen, I don't like, you know, how do you say about my husband too, but you know, I want to try to train another one for two decades with this one, you know, by what I'm just saying, we never agree, we all human beings with different things, but you know the big issues, like, you know what, we want the future, good future for our country, for our children, we want to have a good education, we want to have a safe country, we want to make sure that criminals not roaming around and killing people, you know, we want to make sure that we have a good economy and in the strong national security. So I think there are a lot more, as I said, common for us, but we need to go about policies and ideas and talk about them and we can bring much more people, I think President Trump brought much more people, different people, I think Reagan did it at some time and he did it again, that never really looked maybe, I mean, they don't like both parties, but they like some of the things and that's what we need to do, we need to be, it's not about party about the people, the ability to govern, the desire to govern, deal with stuff issues and delivering on big ideas for the future of the country. That's just a great point you make to wrap things up here, Congresswoman, it's always great catching up with you today, as it is anytime you can join us on the show. Listen, you're still out of district so we have not only a congressional but your campaign website, as everybody in the house is running for re-election, live linked in the show description today. Anybody wants to check out all the great work you're doing, contribute to your campaign, maybe see a clip from a town hall that you've been holding while you're in district, please tell us where we can find you on social media, we'll live link in the show description as well. It's a trap spartz, an SPA RTZ and you can go to my website and sign up to our newsletter and try to make them brief but try to make it to the point so we keep you posted and some very issues are probably not discussed enough including our financial situation so we'll have to start governing and I think it will take American people to put pressure on this, but thank you for your show and thank you for having these direct communications with the people, I appreciate that. No and thank you for your time and as we kind of led it into the top of the interview, fiery but mostly peaceful today, this is the Congresswoman who represents Indiana Five, she's fighting for all of America first, representative Spartz, thanks for joining us on the show today, please have a great weekend. Thank you, thank you too. What a special week to be here to join all of you, a few things have happened, not sure if you caught it in the news, two former Democratic presidential candidates have endorsed Donald J. Trump to be President of the United States. You might have heard of a guy named Bobby Kennedy Jr. And I was really proud to stand with President Trump just this past Monday to announce my endorsement and support for him in front of thousands of my National Guard soldiers and airmen, fellow soldiers and airmen, because I am so excited about the opportunity that we have before us to stand together, not as Democrats and Republicans, but as proud Americans who love this great country. All right, coming back into the news portion of our show here, last new segment on the back end of two huge Friday editions of the State for Breakfast podcast, that was former Democrat presidential candidate and Democrat U.S. Senator Tulsi Gabbard who now is working as a Trump Vance campaign surrogate, someone who's looking to be appointed to the transition team on the instance that we win the election on November 5th and hopefully we'll be serving in some context in a future Trump administration. Next year, her and Donald Trump hosted a town hall to an absolutely packed venue in the battleground state of Wisconsin yesterday, and that was Tulsi speaking before the president was introduced. I've got some clips here of Donald Trump as he not only fielded questions, but promoted agenda 47 as part of this stop on the campaign trail. I've got a couple of clips that I'm going to start off with Donald Trump absolutely ripping Kamala Harris. Let's hear it. Sitting behind a desk doing this interview, and I said, Dana Bash, you could make yourself big tonight. All you have to do is be fair. I haven't seen the questions, but they gave out a sample. In fact, she's going to be on later on tonight with a tape. It was a tape we're doing it live. Why are we doing it live, and she's doing it taped, but she was sitting behind that desk, this massive desk, and she didn't look like a leader to me, I'll be honest. I don't see her negotiating with President Xi of China. I don't see her with Kim Jong-un like we did with. That's funny that Donald Trump really wanted to point out of all the things that CNN did to kind of wrap bubble tape around this interview. They promoted it as an hour. It was 16 minutes. They said the questions were going to be hard hitting and impactful. They sure as hell weren't that he went for the desk thing. Listen, Donald Trump understands the importance. I think he values the perspective of what it's like to be the president of the United States. That's why he was so adamantly against, out of all the things, unmuted mics, whatever. Notes. Okay. He did not want to sit during one of these debates. He thinks it projects weakness on the global stage in the eyes of our enemies and wanted to rip Kamal Harris about that. He would go and start fielding questions after talking on a couple of gender points. And we play the rally stuff all the time, we don't need to hit into that. But he did have a back and forth with a young man who asked some questions about wanting to have a little piece of the American dream. How hard it is to sustain himself now as a young man, young adult student who's trying to live independently, but even a little bit more further down the road, things like home ownership, under the last 12 out of 16 years under Democrats, is something that is not becoming obtainable for young Americans in this country these days. And President Trump had a really strong answer on this. Let's check it out. Luke Pulaski and I'm a junior here at the University of Wisconsin-La Crosse. I'll be voting for the first time in November, and I'm researching each candidate. I have two questions for you. First, as I've been living on my own and buying my own gas and groceries, I've noticed that everything has become more expensive. For me personally, I try to eat healthy and stay lean. A pound of meat has gone from $4 to almost $7. I also would like to buy a home someday, but that seems just impossible now. What's your plan to make life more affordable and bring down inflation for someone like me? Very good. Thank you. Good. It's probably the question I get most. You know, they say you're going to vote with your stomach. I don't know if you've heard it, but it's a little bit true. And groceries, food, has gone up at levels that nobody's ever seen before. We've never seen anything like it 50, 60, 70 percent. You take a look at bacon and some of these products and some people don't eat bacon anymore, and we are going to get the energy prices down when we get energy down. You know, this was caused by their horrible energy wind. They won't wind all over the place, but when it doesn't blow, we have a little problem. This was caused by energy. This was really caused by energy, and also their unbelievable spending. They're spending us out of wealth, actually. They're taking our wealth away. But it was caused by energy. And what they've done is they started cutting way back. We were in third place. When I left, we were by far in first place, beating Russia, beating Saudi Arabia. And we were going to dominate to a level that we've never seen before, and then we had a bad election. It would be very nice if it's supposed to be nice when I talk about the election. Because everybody's afraid to talk about, oh, please, so don't talk about the election, please. You know, if you can't talk about a bad election, you really don't have a democracy if you think about it, right? True story. But what they did tell me is they took back the oil production, the oil started going crazy. That started the inflation. Then they went back. They'd go back to where Trump was. The problem is that we would have been three times that level right now. We would have been so dominant over Russia and Saudi Arabia, look, Saudi Arabia, Russia, a lot of oil. We would have had more. You know, we had something in Alaska and war that I created. I mean, Ronald Reagan wanted it. You remember? Ronald Reagan wanted it. They all wanted it. And I got it approved. Nobody was able to get it approved. I got it approved. And they, the first week in office, they turned it back. They said, no, it's the biggest site possibly in the world, could be bigger than Saudi Arabia. Well, we're going to start that up. We're going to become the energy capital of the world. We're going to pay down our debt and we're going to reduce your taxes still further. And your groceries are going to come tumbling down and your interest rates are going to be tumbling down. And then you're going to go out. You're going to buy a beautiful house, okay? You're going to buy a beautiful house. That's called the American Green, the American Green. I love to hear it. And I believe as the root cause of everything financially that is wrong in this country right now begins and ends with energy and the lack of production that we're kind of in right now, due to Green do everything and all the crap that we've had to endure under Democrats, if Donald Trump can make us not energy independent, but energy dominant. And we're pumping that out at clips never seen before in this country. It will have a domino effect on every single thing financially. And again, combine that with a tax cut for the middle class, amazing. Combine that with Republicans finally find in the stones enough to go and cut back on all of this wasteful spending. You know, you heard it from RepSparts in our interview that we just concluded at the end of the last new segment, pre-COVID spending is where it starts and then we have to scale back even more and that's just the truth. You know, Donald Trump was of course going to have a couple funny talking points throughout the course of, I mean, this is a Donald Trump event here. And this whole Donald Trump and JD Vance is weird. It came and went, but he's still kind of talking on it. You know, it seems like the more that Kamala Harris and Tim Walts don't make themselves accessible to the media, Donald Trump and JD Vance are out there on the campaign tarot. Not just doing town halls. Not just doing Trump rallies or delivering remarks to large delegations and congregations out there. They're doing a lot of retail politicking. They're doing a lot of intimate interviews. They're doing a lot of podcasts, side note, not that I wanted to bury it deep in the show. Someone reached out to me this week and asked why President Trump has been on stake for breakfast yet and I said, well, it's because we haven't been able to finalize anything with the Trump team. So they suggested that I reach out to a couple entities. And when you want to talk about the two people that are in charge of making sure that everything goes smoothly within the Trump campaign, I have put out again, both a formal and informal request to see out of all the media President Trump's doing right now if he would have the time to come and share a little bit with our listenership. And all I could say in regards to that is keep us in your prayers. Listen, I've been praying about it since 2022 when I first made contact with the original person who sent me down this path and it's gone through about half a dozen hands within the campaign of people who are still there and listen, if it doesn't happen, it changes nothing. And if it does, it'll be a big win for our listenership and that's about it. You always want the opportunity to bring you the best. There's always been a goal to show here and we'll continue to be working hard every week and not just bringing everyone that's directly connected to this campaign and this president and this movement, but always be working behind the scenes to hopefully enjoy a wonderful conversation here with him on stake for breakfast. So we'll keep you posted. Here's Donald Trump pushing back on the narrative that Democrats call him in J.D. Vance weird. You get a lot of those questions because Minnesota, I mean, they picked this guy. He is weird. Huh? He's a weird guy. He's a weird dude. You know, see, they come up with soundbites. They always have soundbites. And one of the things is that J.D. and I are weird. Wouldn't that take? He's so straight. J.D. is so he's doing a great job, smart, top student, a great guy. And he's not weird and I'm not weird. I mean, a lot of things were not weird, I will tell you, but that guy is weird, don't you think? Hey, whether it's the horse-seaman thing, the mysterious narrative surrounding his DUI, his embellishment of his military record, his weirdo family, Tim Waltz is a weird guy. And he's a radical communist and I honestly can't believe that people say, yes, I can, because I've watched Joe Biden operate for nearly the last four years now. But people that get paid so much more money as consultants sat down in the room somewhere and said like, oh, yeah, this is going to, we found the chink in his armor right now. We're going to call it Donald Trump weird. We were talking about a successful billionaire builder who already had his run through Hollywood was already the president of the United States, survived an assassination attempt. You know, could be literally a pro golfer. You couldn't find anyone that's lived out the American dream more to any extent until you look at someone like J.D. Vance, who's come from obscure beginnings and extreme poverty, a broken home, one that was inflicted with drug addiction and substance abuse, who rose above it all to, you know, live out the American dream, participated in the military, graduated college and went to the Ivy League, came back and built a successful American business. He had, in his first attempt, a successful run to the U.S. Senate in the great state of Ohio and now is the vice presidential nominee. I mean, what's weird about either one of those, you know, Kamala Harris used to run around with Montell Williams before she broke up Willie Brown's family as his mistress and slept her way up to the top cop in California to where she helped ruin the judicial system here before she slept her way into a U.S. Senate seat and is now the vice president of the United States. That's weird. That's stuff with Joe Biden and Tim Walts, they have their weird stories too. So, you want to talk about weird and just the unoriginal bastards that these Democrats come off as and in our last couple of President Trump, you know, for all the things that Kamala Harris continues to glean and steal from the MAGA agenda as part of her, I guess, pseudo platform out there on the campaign trail? Well, Donald Trump said, "Hey, she's going to run on MAGA." But as well send her a MAGA hat, let's listen. So Kamala was for defunding the police, she was for the open borders, she was for everything that you're not against. I could go through 14 different. She's changed in every single one of them. In fact, I think we should make, see the man in the red hat and the beautiful woman in the red hat says, "Make America great again, perhaps we should give Kamala a make America great again, Hat, right?" You know, Chad Trumpism would be if he brought a MAGA hat to the debate and offered it as a gift to the current Vice President Kamala Harris. It'd be interesting to see, just putting it out there. Hey, listen, they took MAGonomics, they took Make America Healthy again and they ran with it. We love it. But let Trump be Trump. I like in those last two clips we played where Trump is being Trump. And you know, it's things like the creation of the phrase Trump Derangement Syndrome or TDS as it's referred to online and then a lot of posts from Donald Trump. You get the ball rolling and by the time the avalanche comes down the hill, it's something that is absolutely unstoppable. As I talked about in the lead in our first show today, and as our last audio clip of the week, the RFK Junior Campaign and the Colshan Hand put out on their social medias yesterday, a commercial. It's a parody and it's about Trump Derangement Syndrome. I thought it was absolutely phenomenal and I'm going to play it for you now. Let's check it out. Are you or your loved ones suffering from illnesses such as TDS, also known as Trump Derangement Syndrome? Do you dismiss or deny the current issues facing our country, such as historic inflation, illegal immigration, corporate corruption, World War III escalations, and the chronic disease epidemic? Are you willing to elect someone who was the least popular vice president in modern history and who offers no policy or vision for America simply because your brain keeps telling you anyone but Trump? If so, you might be struggling from TDS. I used to hear people on the news say things like Donald Trump and the movement he has encouraged are a threat to democracy. And I instantly believed it. With independence, I now realize the media is run by the Democrat elite, who are a corrupt oligarchy that censors free speech, silences political opponents, supports forever when powers, and abandons democracy by anointing its candidates. Independence may not be for everyone. If you enjoy being lied to about your president's cognitive abilities, support Aurelian totalitarianism, or are excited about communist fiscal policy, independence may not be right for you. Common side effects of independence may include an awakening of rational thought, successfully identifying propaganda, freedom of choice, loss of hatred, anti-narcissistic behavior, and love of democracy. I used to blindly hate whoever my party was running against. I didn't care about facts or policy because I was hopelessly indoctrinated. With independence, I'm much more interested in policies that uphold democracy. And I truly care about the health of our country and its citizens. Ask your doctor if independence is right for you, and enjoy your freedoms once again. Again, equal parts, we are so fucking back, slash, best timeline ever, and we're going to leave it at that. 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There's been an assassination attempt on President Trump's life. I think he had one of the most unifying RNC convention speeches in the history of modern politics. He reestablished that line with all the hawks within the party, saying, "Listen, for as much as you want me to run as the president of the Republican conference, I'm running to be the president of the United States, and I want everyone and anyone to help us make America great again." He took that out on the road with his new vice presidential pick, J.D. Vance. Chris Cross the country picked up a couple of additions along the way. I think Elon Musk, R.F.K. Jr., and now Tulsi Gabbard to name a few. For someone who has worked in the swamp for as long as you have, Jim, you see the literal refitting and reshaping of conservative politics via Donald Trump and what will be his eventual legacy. I kind of want to get an armchair quarterback on how you think this has kind of been going for him. I think it's well. Obviously, some growing pains here and there, but I think when you look at the results that we're looking to reap on November 5th, I think Donald Trump's done a much better than average job of being in a good position right now. Listen, I'm all for what he's trying to do. By the way, I come from the Reagan conservative background, and there are a lot of people who are like, "Okay, boomer." No, no. Reagan had it right, and his administration was a real challenge. He wasn't a Neocon, he hated war, that's one of the interesting things, and frankly, he tried to bring that into the Republican Party way back then, but that's one of the reasons I'm really happy about the things that Donald Trump's doing. We're away from this military industrial complex mindset when he's operating, and then from the civil rights perspective, listen, Republicans have had a struggle with civil rights because of the Neocon faction, which George W. Bush epitomized because they always wanted to get into people's bedrooms, so to speak. They wanted to be able to have a surveillance state to try to make sure that threats of terrorism and all this stuff could be dealt with. We're Americans. We're able to deal with these things ourselves. We didn't ever need that. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. also brings to the table a really interesting discussion about health. I don't want, as I think our FK Jr. does, I don't want a nanny state from the USDA and the FDA telling everything about how we need to do our food from some government edict, but the reality is we've got a real situation to deal with. We are a very unhealthy culture, and the biggest reason for that is government giving these massive corporations special benefits constantly that I was always fighting with, and both of my bosses, both Tim Hill's camp and Thomas Massey, were fighting against on Capitol Hill. Thomas even still to this day. Net, it's fantastic for a Republican party, but definitely for the conservative movement because it's bringing in things that we have been really neglectful about for a long period of time. No, it certainly has. I think you're dotting all the eyes and crossing all the T's when it comes to angles or people that could be unsatisfactory with the inclusion levels here, but again, in a pivotal election, you would expect someone to go above and beyond. I think Donald Trump has done that. I know he's going to be making more additions to the team. Some are most more than likely going to surprise everyone. And Jim, you talk about the conservatism. Donald Trump is able to do this, I think, with a high success rate, bringing in people like RFK Jr and Tulsi Gabbard, et cetera, only because we saw a mass coalescing behind him after it was determined that he was going to be the Republican nominee. I think some things change, maybe some softening of the hearts for people, you know, hardliners within the conference who might not want to make America great again, but is going to suck it up and try to do it anyway after the assassination attempt. But you know, the unity we saw at the Republican National Convention, listen, it wasn't like at the DNC where you had governors walking around talking about how bad everything was in the country. You had Bernie Sanders saying millionaires and billionaires are bad, and then David Pritzker coming on right after him and saying billionaires are awesome, it's like, you know, you want to talk about a disconnected message. You can always go to the Democrats, which we're going to talk about in just a bit, but what Donald Trump has done within the Republican Party, and just kind of convinced everybody that this is a pivotal election, maybe the most pivotal in the modern era, I think having that solid Republican backing base underneath them is allowing him to widen the tent even more. Think about the political spectrum that's been created with Donald Trump. It goes all the way from a Matt Teiby and a Michael Shellenberger, neither of whom have endorsed Trump. I'm not saying that they've endorsed him, but they're on board with key aspects of the Trump agenda, particularly related to weaponization issues out of the government. So you go from that side, which is the more center left side, all the way to well beyond the center right. I mean, the Elon Musk's little graphic that he put out where he stays the same place, but the political spectrum keeps moving on him. That's really what's happened. That's why Donald, one of the reasons why Donald Trump's been able to build this broad coalition, you look at what's happening on the Democrat side, not only the lies, I mean, you've got Kamala Harris now saying, oh man, yeah, we need to build a border wall. That was maybe the major argument against Donald Trump for a long period of time during his administration, among a few other things, but that was maybe the key one that he got the most heat on from a policy perspective. And here she is pretending she's going to embrace it. When she was speaking vociferously against it for a long period of time, Donald Trump's brought in the coalition because Donald Trump's been right on the issues and he's focused and targeted on the issues that really do matter to Americans right now. The economy's a pretty broad net. You can throw over a lot of the emotions and concerns and feelings of Americans. He's right on that topic as well as the immigration issue, which has as equally as equally broad a net. So he's hitting it perfectly where Americans want to be the what he has to thread the needle on is getting past a media willing to lie and obfuscate and also to shut out any opposing discussion related to Kamala Harris and the radical Maoist communist Tim Waltz. That's a great point you make there. And then, you know, when you see some of the stuff that happened over the course of the last week in the media, some really big attack pieces on just any conservative or Republican who would sit down on CBS, NBC, CNN, et cetera, you know, talking about the frustration level that they have. And then, you know, segueing to the Democrats, Jim, listen, I've checked with a lot of legal scholars. One of the most qualified ones that I think would be Hami Dylan, I mean, there was nothing illegal about what they did to Joe Biden by inserting Kamala Harris without a single vote being cast for her. But the fact of the matter is, is America going to allow the Democrats to run another basement campaign that's facilitated by the mainstream press, by billionaire donors, by, you know, pollsters who run normal polls for two years, and then as soon as we head into the general election cycle, you get those D plus 10 samples that makes it look like Donald Trump can't win. And even some of the red states now, you know, it's really a shame the way politics has kind of devolved into this. I mean, we don't even use debates as a standard when the two biggest pivotal, you know, parties are going up against each other to be the chief executive of essentially the world. And you know, as you see this kind of lay out, you've got your finger on the pulse, not just in the belt way, but in the heartland as well, is America wise to what's going on with Kamala Harris right now? And do they understand they're going to have a pretty good receipt after the debate, no matter how hard they try to put it against Donald Trump? But I really feel like, you know, for the second straight cycle in a row, they're just running cover for the Democratic Party because they have absolutely nothing to offer the American people. I do think the American people are getting it. I think they do in their core understand it. And by the way, are they thinking about it in the front on their frontal lobe every day like you and I are were analyzing this? No, they're not, but they know deep down that this was a massive screw up and FYI with Zuckerberg finally coming out, although I think half heartedly and stating how they screwed up the whole 100 Biden laptop thing. Sure. Another issue related to everything else you were talking about that the American people know happened. They know in their gut and they also know in their minds that that the 2020 election was really twisted from the media level and that the Biden campaign twisted it to no Kamala Harris is not going to be able to deal with trying to run a basement campaign. It's why she is doing a debate FYI, it's why she engaged in trying to change the rules of the debate in her favor. And it's also why by the way, Democrats are now after fighting to get RFK off the ballot. Now they're fighting to keep him on the ballot in these states that he wants to come off of because they know that they are in a serious problem. Yes, the polls, they're not quite D plus 10 like they were in 2016. They're really more like D plus six seven. That's why you're seeing these polls in the swing states seem to be even or slightly with Kamala Harris slightly head. That's just not the case. I mean, it is a close race in those key states. I'm not saying that Donald Trump's running away with it, but he's in the lead. I really believe these polls have got it wrong in those states and they are going to massage the numbers just like they did in 2016. They think they're going to get by with it. I do think the American people are wise to it as I always say, the American people might be slow on the uptake, but they always are wise enough to get what's really going on. And they deal with it. No, they certainly do. It's just interesting to see how this is kind of all playing out. I do agree with you on the polls are a little bit tighter. You know, we went from a probable electoral landslide against Joe Biden back to the traditional. It's going to be coming down to the battleground in swing states, obviously probably two dozen counties and several districts and less than 200,000 votes. Electoral college wise that determines who's going to be the president of the United States. But I think if you look at where Donald Trump's really doubling down places like Georgia, Arizona, Nevada and Pennsylvania, those are some of the states he wins. He wins two out of four, three out of four. It's almost an electoral lock. There's a lot more avenues Donald Trump can get to the White House in on election day than Kamala Harris. They have one or two options. They have to do something in the rust belt or retain the entirety of the blue wall and have a couple other things shake their way. Jim, I do want to segue to something up on Capitol Hill. It's kind of brewing right now. You know, everybody's getting ready to come back after a little bit of time off. And one of the things that I'm starting to see generate a little bit of traction on social media is the SAVE Act. We all know that that's something after Speaker Johnson and Donald Trump talked, protecting our elections from legal's voting. Now, there is a lot of record and laws on the books already that, you know, normally would prevent that, but I kind of want your insider take on this because I've asked around people at the RNC, people around the Trump campaign over the course of the last few days, because I see it kind of turned it into a big virtue single. And here's the deal. Now, if they attach this to the budget and it gets through the House of Representatives because Republicans have the majority, the chances of this passing the Senate or Joe Biden, you know, passing it and signing it along as the budget, which is going to be the band-aid between the next two administrations, there's a very slim chance of that in a race where Donald Trump is going to probably pull House Republicans over the finish line, if they are to retain and maybe by a little bit extend the majority to 27 to 230 is what I'm hoping. Does taking this stand right now for a piece of legislation that let's just say it passes a perfect storm, Senate passes it, Joe Biden signs it. People in blue states and in blue cities are not going to implement the SAVE Act. On Election Day of this election cycle. So I just kind of want to know that you've worked around legislation, you've seen these things that they kind of use as bargaining chips when the budget comes up, your opinion on it. And listen, it might not be a take that people want to hear because I say, oh, there's no reason why they shouldn't be in the budget, we have to do it. But when you look at like the implementation process of it, and the fact that the election is in about two months right now, it doesn't seem like it's a well-designed plan that's, you know, going to be applied to safeguard our elections in this cycle right now. What do you think? Well, first of all, you do want to get those laws on the books because ultimately because then there are prosecutorial points of action that can be undertaken here. So you definitely need this to be legally clear. The biggest issue related to the budget right now, and I've had these discussions with people all over TC, and like you're stating, there's a lot of differing opinion on this. The one thing with people that I talk to is get this budget that get this continuing resolution into the early part of the Trump administration so he can make massive changes to the budget when he gets into office. Okay. So that's the ultimate end goal that should be here. The Save Act, I mean, my personal opinion is that Republicans don't fight on anything. Correct. And I'm not even convinced that if we get a Republican conference next time, a Republican majority in Congress next year, that they're going to fight for anything. This is a battle that I'm going to be undertaking, I can guarantee you. We've had a lot of subpar activity taking place up to this point all the way back to 2010 and a little bit before when I first came to Capitol Hill. John Boehner was not doing any fighting. And Mitch McConnell definitely isn't doing the darn bit of fighting. So I want to fight. And I think this is a hugely important issue. But I can understand the argument that it could be a real problem when they're not going to enforce it. Anyway, I can accept that people are concerned about that, but I also don't see a plan to make sure that this happens afterwards. If Republicans get into Congress, their goal is, okay, we did it, now we don't have to do anything. And they always say, let's be careful. Listen, we don't want to go really weird on the social issues or we don't want to go weird on the really touchy issues because, you know, we got to maintain Congress. It's just, you know, we just got to get the control of Congress and we'll take care of it next time. That's the mantra of Republicans in DC. So that's why I would push back a little bit on what you're saying, but I think it's also an important and valid point. No, I agree with you and I'm glad we're debating about this because it's something that needs to be talked about. I mean, don't you agree, Jim, that for sure of this, like, let's just say Speaker Johnson decided for the first time in his 10 year speaker to draw a line in the sand, maybe President Trump urges him to do it. And let's say we walk into a government shutdown in late September, don't you feel like in the upcoming elections? And even though it's not the case, but the way the Democrats lie and the way they roll out the media, they've been talking about Donald Trump directing MAGA Republicans with within the Congress for almost four years now, don't you think it would hurt Republicans heading to the ballot box on November 5th if the government's not operating? According to the Democrats, the way it should be. Well, I mean, we have been doing Nancy Pelosi's spending priorities from all the way back into even the Trump administration. Let's just be honest about it. And so that argument can be made as a counter. I don't know that it harms, I've never felt that the government shutdowns harm Republicans and I've argued that it helps them. There are Republicans who argue that back in, I think it was 2013, when we had no 2011, I think it was when we had a major shutdown that they say the Republicans got messed up in the next congressional election, we actually added eight seats. So that argument, I always thought was kind of stupid. But again, I understand people have different levels of tolerance and different levels of pain that they're willing to go through. I think we have to have an argument about the government spending we have. We're $35 trillion now in debt. We're back on a pace of adding $100 billion, or excuse me, $100 billion, sorry, I'm wrong. A trillion dollars of debt every 100 days. We're adding a trillion dollars of debt every 100 days. This is absolutely absurd and crazy. I don't know when we're ever going to fight over it. And so my concern is that Republicans never liked to fight over it. Just like we did the last budget that led us to this, we kept all the spending at the levels that were there beforehand and didn't have a fight then. When the heck are we going to have a fight? Again, I understand before an election, everyone's worried about it, but my experience has been that Republicans, once they get past an election cycle, they breathe and then they give up on the fight. When you got to go into it even more intensely as Democrats do, by the way, against us. Yeah, I think the main focus should be all things budgetary, all things appropriations process right now and have those real cuts ready to be lined up for. At some point, we have to get back to pre-COVID spending. That's just the reality of it. We're never going to be able to make a debt in this thing if we don't. And the way we, you know, that you so elegantly alluded to, Jim, every 100 days, it's another trillion dollars unsustainable. Our country will not last another decade with this kind of- And real quick, let's note the pre-COVID versus post-COVID spending. We're nearing $7 trillion in our total budgetary spending in Washington, D.C. Pre-COVID, I can't remember the precise number. I think it was like 4.3 or 4 to 4.6 trillion. Think about that for a second. That's our annual spending in the federal, and some of this is, you know, the bump up of retirements in the Medicare and Social Security. I get that. Some of that is that growth. Some of it is inflationary growth. But the reality is we are so far above pre-COVID spending levels and Republicans have played a big role in that. They certainly have, and they got to grow a little bit of spine when it comes to these things. Listen, Jim, this was a great catching up with you today. No better way to take us into the weekend than wrapping it up with talking to you about all these things related to the campaign, to the party, and obviously the going's on up on Capitol Hill. We want a live link. Anything you've got in the show description today, you can tell our listenership where we could find some more information about the conservative caucus as well, and then, of course, your social media handle. Well, by the way, I want everyone to go to theconservativecalkus.org. You can find out right up front. We're having our 50th anniversary celebration in Northern Virginia, Rudy Giuliani's coming to speak. So anyone in the Virginia area needs to come and join us, and they can get more information there at theconservativecalkus.org, and, of course, on X, where TC caucus is our handle, and, of course, my handle is Jim Paff on X. And he brought it today. This is the president of the Conservative Caucus. He's making that organization, well, I don't want to be cliche, but great again. Mr. Jim Paff. Thanks for joining us. And great to be with your own. Thanks. Two more absolutely phenomenal episodes of Stay for Breakfast in the Books, and, as always, we nailed it. If you enjoyed this episode of the podcast, I want to hear the now nearly 450 other editions of the show. You best be subscribed to us across every downloadable podcasting platform. Find us on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, Amazon, Samsung, or wherever you listen to your shows. In addition, check us out on social media, Twitter, get our two social, Instagram, and TikTok is where we have accounts, find them, follow them, hit the notification bell, and never miss out on all the great stuff we've got going on down here. At Stay for Breakfast, we want to thank all of our guests for coming in and sharing with us today. Texas Congressman Keith Self, Indiana Congresswoman, Victoria Sparts, the executive secretary of the New York Young Republican Club, Mr. Bishbara, and the president of the Conservative Caucus, Mr. Jim Paff. You guys all helped make. Take. Great again. You guys, we're heading into the weekend, and even though today's been relatively quiet across the news cycle, I'm pretty sure it'll ramp up again. By Tuesday, we're coming back with two all new editions of the show, and we've got a power-packed America First lineup coming in hot. South Carolina Congressman Ralph Norman, South Carolina Congresswoman Nancy Mase, Indiana Congresswoman Aaron Houchin, Georgia Congressman Mike Collins, and returning to the show after a long absence, one of the best damn commentators in all of the media. Newsmax's own John Bachman will be here, so on behalf of the Pod Team, I'm Rome. Thanks for listening. Have a great weekend, and take care. It's the night, the wind, your eyes, but it's the bad and the holy crap. Really? Yeah. What is it? Nice try. I'm sorry. What is your three-step plan? Well, I mean, I can't just hand you my plan. I mean, if you guys give me the job, then you'll get the plan. Well, it's an interview, and we don't know that you really have the plan. I'm not going to just make up that I have a plan. I got a plan, believe it. You guys want it. You're in paper, right? How do we know that? You could just be saying it to get the job. I guess I could be. If I was... Who would do that? How about this? Why don't you do that? Why? How about this? Why don't you do it? [BLANK_AUDIO]
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