Danny and Dusty
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Now we're number two, Danny and Dusty, with you on this football Friday. If you're not excited about football Friday, I don't know. Something's wrong with you. Something's wrong with you. Check that pulse. Coming up on the show, we got awe. Everybody's favorite game show coming up at 2.30. To a clock, we have got our rivalry trophy championship game. Dun-dun-dun-dun. Matchup for the ages. But where we got to start, hour number two, the saga has finally come to a close. Womp-womp-womp-womp. The San Francisco 49ers and Brandon Iyuk have agreed to a long-term extension, a four-year $120 million contract that will keep him in the Bay Area through the 2028 season. All right. Hey, 76 million are guaranteed, 47 million to be paid to Iyuk before April Fool's Day 2025. How great would that be if John Lynch is like, gotcha. Not going to pay him, not get it. Not going to dare it, wouldn't be prudent. But Iyuk gets his money. Now, on the surface, it seems like it is a four-year $120 million deal, which I'm no math major, but that is $30 million a year. But when you go to the fact that $76 million of that is what is guaranteed, it is a four-year deal with $19 million per year for Brandon Iyuk. I found the reporting from Adam Schefter to be very interesting. And also directly from the 49ers. He said that the contract that Iyuk signed and agreed to is the exact same contract that was offered by the San Francisco 49ers at the beginning of this whole thing. They said, and they've been true to this, like we gave him the best offer that we could give him because of what our cap situation is moving forward. And knowing we have to pay Brock Purdy, knowing that we have to pay Trent Williams, knowing that we're going to have some tough decisions down the road, this is the most that we could do. Iyuk tried to flex his muscles. And look, he went out and he fell flat on his face, trying to get a bigger deal at a place that he wanted to be at. And I think that that is one thing that you look at and you say, hey, the value and what smart teams are going to do is they're not going to throw too much money if they cannot do it for the future of their organization and keeping a Super Bowl window open. It's not about four years down the road. It's about the two years that San Francisco truly has to win a Super Bowl. - There was another line in here, I'm trying to find it from one of the newsbreakers that I thought was interesting that it was released seven, eight, nine hours later and kind of towards the end of the night, which that's when stuff gets kind of slid in underneath there. One of them was Diana Recini's note about how they were only going to trade Iyuk if they got a top flight receiver in return somehow, which she also said that they offered a third round pick for Cortland Sutton and Cortland Sutton as a top flight receiver is, I didn't expect to hear those two words be linked together. - I've kind of stood by this. I think Cortland Sutton is valued more across the NFL than what he has been able to produce over the last couple of years, see the offense being an absolute disaster, still a good receiver. But look, if you're Denver, like a third round pick for Sutton, that's why I think he would might hop on board with that. - Yeah, that wasn't where I went with that. - I think what they did though is said, we can't do that if we're going to start our rookie. - It's fair. - You know, we can't say we're betting on the future, go drown when it bonics, we're going to go have fun, especially with the struggles at Troy Franklin, who they thought would be an immediate impact player for him or for them wasn't producing the way they thought he would out of the gate. I think that that's probably why Denver's like, yeah, thanks, but no thanks, we're going to read the temperature of the room. But if that would have happened, they would have dealt, Brandon and I, not to Denver, they would have dealt him to Pittsburgh. And that would have been the final piece to a three team trade was a third round pick goes from San Francisco to Denver, okay? And Cortland Sutton comes to San Francisco, Brandon and I, you goes to Pittsburgh. And that would have made everything rest a little bit easier. And it would have made sense, really for all three of those teams, except for Denver, when they made the decision, they're going to start bonics. And they didn't hit the home run in the draft and in the fourth round sleeper in Troy Franklin, like they thought they were going to. - The interesting thing was, this started with I use one and basically the same deal that I'm on Raw, same round God. And you know what he got? The same deal I'm on Raw God. - Didn't I'm on Raw get, he wasn't-- - 77 guaranteed. - He got 77 guaranteed. - Okay, well, but that was the best offer that San Francisco could have given it. - This is kind of what I was saying from the jump with this whole thing though, is that both sides were being stupid and stubborn about this. And again, as much as Ayuk took the deal that was originally offered, Rocini's information there about only trading Ayuk if they got a top flight receiver, kind of lets you know that he may have been able to find more money and he did with the Patriots. And perhaps they couldn't get that it wasn't about him not necessarily wanting to go to New England, which even if he didn't, he clearly was able to generate the money, but there was no deal that made sense for the 49ers and the same stuff. They weren't going to do it without getting a top flight receiver in return. - Yeah, do you see the athletic, anonymous agent poll that they released? There's a lot that was in there, including a little nugget on Aaron Rodgers that we'll get to in a little bit, but they pulled a bunch of agents around the NFL and asked them, you know, things like, you know, what are the biggest disaster of teams to work with, best franchises to work with. The Eagles and the 49ers were rated the top franchises and best front offices in the NFL. And that right there also leads me to believe this was more Brandon Iyuk than it was the San Francisco 49ers front office, because if agents around the NFL are saying, no, these are teams we like to work with. - Oh, sure. I'm not saying that Iyuk is faultless or blameless at all. That's not all. - I'm not saying I think he should shoulder the majority of this, of why this lasted so long and why it got to this point. - I will never go that route as long as Jed York owns that franchise. - Because him and Jerry Jones are notorious for doing the same bleeping thing every single time, which is here's the money. Here's the most we have in the end. That's what they get every single time. - What is wrong with that is saying, here's the money. This is what we have. Take it. Wouldn't that be like, okay. - No, my point is like, I feel like that's good to work with. - No, I'm saying, well, why is there a holdout? Because if you, it's as simple as, here's the max amount of money we can give you. - Yeah. - There shouldn't be any holdout. - Yeah. - Other organizations. - And that's why I say it's the player. - No, no, no. Other organizations don't deal with this as routinely as those two organizations do. - Yeah. Well, because they've drafted really well, both of them, we've talked about this, they both drafted really well, and you're sitting there staring down the, what the ledger's gonna look like, and you're going, we gotta pay him, we gotta pay him, we gotta pay him, and you get into a bind that way. I mean, that, a lot of teams, they pay their quarterback an exorbitant amount of money, and you can just go to every agent and say, look at that deal, that's why. With both of those franchises, in Dallas is a little bit different because they'll overpay Ezekiel Elliott for some godforsaken reason. But with San Francisco, it's, we gotta pay Boso, we gotta pay Warner, we gotta pay Debo, we've gotta pay Kittle, we know we're gonna have to pay Purdy, we're gonna have to pay Trent Williams, and we're paying Trent Williams right now. Like, they're sitting there going, look, all of these guys are not top-end, high-dollar guys, like a quarterback is, where you're getting a quarterback with a $55 million cap number on it, but you have a host of $30 million guys that are all just kind of in order because they're elite at their positions. And when you have a bunch of those guys, you know, a guy like Brandon Eiks, like, I want that money too. And they're like, well, we're already paying Kittle, Trent Williams, Debo Samuel, Christian McCaffrey, we're already paying all these guys at the top-dollar. And that's a little bit of a tougher situation for San Francisco than it is Dallas, because Dallas would just be like, "Ah, we wanna keep you, we're gonna pay you all the money." And then here we are, man, Dak, we wanna keep you, but we've already given up way too much money for everybody else, that doesn't make sense. And nor does you wanting $62 million. - Yeah, he's, you see his quote? - About him not wanting to negotiate and be a distraction during the season. - Yeah. - Yeah. - That seems like a quote, that seems like a distraction. (laughing) - I never did, I didn't think of that, but yeah, yeah, you're right. - Just shut up, either shut up or talk. Don't talk about shutting up or shut up about talking. I'm so sick and tired of the double-speak. I, you know, I need to be better, but it's also, it's everybody else's fault. Why do people hate the Cowboys and Dak Prescott? Oh, I don't know, zero self-awareness? Absolutely none, probably that's probably where I'd start. - That's pretty good. - Just unbelievable. - Pretty good jumping up. - It's a kind of thing, like it's so dumb if you, if you wrote it into a, into a plot, you're like, come on, guys, we're landing on too thick here. - Yeah. - That's the Cowboys and Nutshell, a little bit. - All right, who, who has more power than any other player in the NFL, which has made his team, quote, in disarray next on the fan? - ♪ You spent a over here ♪ - Now at T-Mobile, get four 5G phones on us. And four lines for $25 a line per month when you switch with eligible traders, all on America's largest 5G network. (upbeat music) Minimum of four lines for $25 per line per month without a paid discount using debit or bank account, $5 more per line without auto pay, plus taxes and fees and $10 device connection charge. Phones would be at 24 monthly bill credits for well qualified customers. Contact us before canceling entire accounts to continue bill credits or credit stop and balance on a required finance agreement too. Bill credits, end if you pay off devices early. ctmobile.com. (upbeat music) Okay, I brought up that athletic survey that I was telling you about with the, indeed, the agents. This is what the agents, by the way, five said the Eagles, five said the 49ers on the best run franchises in the NFL. Chiefs picked up four votes, Packers three vikings, Steelers, Ravens, Dolphins, each two apiece. This is what the quotes were from agents on the 49ers. The way they treat people and don't skip on expenses, highly professional. Another one said you have to fit within their culture, but they allow players and employees to be themselves and they win even while getting their poached aft every year by teams. - Their what? - Their staff poached. - There we go. - There we go. - What I said, poached aft? - Yeah. - Yeah, staff poached, reading head hard. - English school. - The most unstable franchises in the NFL. Care to take a guess on the most unstable franchise in the NFL. - Look, it's a, it's not a character flaw. It is a built in part of the Raiders. - Cowboys, Raiders, maybe the Browns, Panthers. - Browns not picking up any votes. Panthers number one, nine first place votes. Organizational stability comes from the owner in the front office needs more time than the owner. A strong QB can keep a team viable regardless of the front office, but what's their plan? I think another one said I think the headline for this section should be that for the first time in my career, most NFL organizations are relatively competent. I can only think of a few that aren't run well, starting with Carolina because of Tepor's involvement. They didn't get a big haul for the Brian Burns trade either. Your Raiders coming in second, seven first place votes there. Then the Jets, Jags, Cowboys, Cardinals, all with three apiece. Here's what they say about your Raiders owner. The owner frequently makes significant changes. He put Josh McDaniel's and Dave Ziegler in charge and fired them after less than two seasons. Now the Raiders have an inexperienced coach in Antonio Pierce, a retread GM hire in Tom Telesco. Organizations start at the top and Davis doesn't provide stability. - Well, the last couple of GMs they've had were newer GMs and newer opportunities and they sucked. So, look, Telesco did well as a GM with the Chargers. - He did okay. He did okay. I think that was like the ownership being a mess, but I think that's kind of what they're saying here is. - Oh, look, I want Mark Davis out. Number one is broke. - Tom Brady's in. - He's also not rich. - Oh, yeah. - He's not even the richest person in his own family. - Oh, no, they're divorced now. - Yeah, but they're still (laughs) - Maybe the alimony. - Oh, yeah. The fact that he probably gets alimony is insane. Does he get child support? - No, I don't think that he's around very much. I don't think that he's around much at all. - But the Raiders, this function is more military ask where it's cheeky and fun for the most part. No, no, no, Henry Ruggs, not cheeky or fun. And it's part of what they are and it's fine when they're winning. The problem is they haven't won in two decades. - Here's a good one. This is good for Seahawks fans. Best talent evaluator. John Schneider picking up four votes tied with Brett Veach. So Seahawks and Chiefs go number one. But this is where it gets a little bit interesting here. All right. Picking up a tie for fifth with Chris Ballard of the Colts, Eric Dacosta of the Ravens, Brad Holmes of the Lions, was Seahawks assistant general manager, Nolan Teasley. So of the top five vote getters, the Seahawks had two of the best talent evaluators in the entire NFL. - I mean, how many drafts have they missed on? - They've missed on a couple, but when they knock it out of the park, boy howdy. And they do it with late round picks year in and year out. - I'm not surprised to see the Packers on here though. The Packers are and have been for 30 years. - No doubt about it. - And it doesn't matter who it is. - Yep. - That's the insane thing with the Packers. You can just put whoever the Packers GM is. - Yeah. - Like that's a holistic cultural thing built into their organization because they promote from within and they build you up from the ground. - Training and serving. But here's the one that's catching a lot of headlines today is that as part of that most unstable franchise, the Jets were in that tie for third along with the Jags, Cowboys and Cardinals. Here's what an agent said about the New York Jets. There is complete disarray over there. Look at how they've handled Aaron Rodgers, has one player had more power than him. He skipped a mini camp. They've been unable to convert him into a team player. - The vibe inside the building is terrible. - That's an agent who has a client there. - 100%. - That's the only way you know that. - 100%. - Or an agent who has a client that said, "Get me the hell out of here." - Somebody who has been there. - Yep. - Because like, this is one of the things like when you cover a professional sport and you're in a locker room, you know. And I say this and not because I'm carrying water for the Blazers. The vibes last year, even in the hellscape that it was, were still good. Like, I've been in bad locker rooms. I've been in like, organization. - The end of Nate McMillanera. - Yeah, I mean, literal mutiny. Guys getting fired like. - And guys just sad. - And knowing that, getting the hell out. - Yeah. - You just, like, if you're in the building, you know. - Yep. - And you just, I don't know if they keep it to yourself, but it's like, "Oh God, this is another thing to add to this." - Look, and you don't have to be losing it in the drugs for you to have that feeling in those lives. - Feelings, the Eagles. I mean, they, it, clearly the vibes are an absolute s show. - Yep. - And you saw it last year, was it the final six games? It was just like, "Oh God." - I would be, I'm going to be interested to see is there's more time and he gets further removed from it. - We'll get this out of him, out of him. Excuse me, yeah, the hiccups. We'll get this out of him eventually, but Jason Kelsey's true assessment of what happened. - Like, when he gets a couple years away. - When we finally get that because-- - The PR tour stops. - Yeah, I mean, and he's always going to be an Eagles guy through and through. He's not going to throw anybody under the bus, especially guys that are still in their organization and still there, but when enough time gets removed, I really would love to hear his insight and his take on what happened last year at the end of that season, 'cause it wasn't just injuries. There was so much more. - No, I wouldn't even blame the injuries. I would blame the other stuff as more impactful. Not a line in here though about the Broncos. There's a function between the GM and the coach over who's calling the shots. - No, sure. - Some of Sean Payton has wrestled control from George Payton. - Yeah. - The head scratcher there. - Interesting. - And that is always set you up for success. Right? - Oh, when you have been fighting at the top of the franchise? - Yeah. - Yeah. And that's really, 'cause Mickey Loomis and Sean Payton, they were known in New Orleans for having such a close and good working relationship with each other. And to have this kind of come to the forefront row, no bueno. - The other one in here, the Cowboys, will they extend back 18 of the 31 respondents said yes. - It's Dallas, it's what they do. - Yes, I can't imagine Jerry letting him go. - Yeah, exactly. - God, I hope they tie that anchor to that franchise. - Is Jerry Jones like a kid with a toy? And even though like the kids like, I don't, like I haven't played with that toy, but don't, we can't get rid of that one. No, I'm like, I want to keep that. - That's a bit of a hoarder. - Keep that toy. I don't really like that toy anymore. That toy is old. I haven't used it in a while, but I want to keep that toy. And then as a parent in this situation, you'd be like, all right, well, give me your allowance and you can keep that toy. And Jerry, the kid is like, here, take it. - Take my allowance, I'm fine. I want that toy here still, just so I know I can play with that if I want to. - Just really expensive. - All right, can everyone on a worse day on the web? I have a new word for you. - Oh. - Rodenticide. - Okay. - Ponder that. The first is because I know it's sports the no date. And they win even while getting their poached theft. (upbeat music) - It's time for today's worst day on the web. With Danny and Dusty on Odyssey and 1080 The Fan. Well, that sucks. (upbeat music) - Every now and then, I come across a story where I'm like, (laughs) that's gonna be our worst day on the web. - Okay, hit me with it. - Just by the headline. I have barely glanced at the story, but the headline was so enticing that I was like, this is, this is a mad lib. Mice on remote island that eat albatrosses alive, sentenced to death by bombing. Conservation is saying a- - Rodenticide. - Rodenticide bomb could save them. - A rodenticide bomb. (sighs) So wait, they're gonna bomb the island and be like, we need to save the albatrosses. Drop a bomb, baby! Like the albatrosses aren't gonna die? - Chem warfare, baby. - So we, oh, so chemical warfare, it's only gonna kill the rodent. - I'm sure there's definitely not have any side effects like create Godzilla. - Not one bit. I've seen enough movies to know that this is how Godzilla is like created. This is how the evil monster comes up. We're gonna have like mutant, they're gonna recreate dinosaurs. They're gonna turn these things into stegosauruses. - How are the mice big enough to eat an albatross? - Gonna turn it into Eastled New Blar. - Yeah. - I've seen, what was that, Man in the Iron Mask? And also, what was it? - Oh boy. Now this is gonna send me down the rabbit hole. I don't know what movie, what mob movie it was. - Is this the blowtorch of the can? - Yeah, with the rat, you have that. Man in the Iron Mask had like, they had like they put the rat inside and let that go. That was like medieval torture. Was they put a rat in a can with blowtorch, but they also did, was it the departed? No, or was it one of those Boston, you know, you know what I'm talking about? One of those had the rat in a can on a blowtorch. He put it on the guy's stomach and he eats his way through. - Oh God, it's too fast, too furious. - They did that and that's a show. They did it in one of those mob movies too. I don't know if I've ever seen, no, too fast, too furious is the second one, right? - Yeah. - I've seen that. Yeah, I've seen that one. But that's a long way to say, yeah, you don't have to be huge. They'll gang up on you. All you just gotta do is get that albatross. - Well, I mean-- - In the right state, it's sneak attack at night and you start eating away at it. - They've, you know how big an albatross is. Like an albatross is a bird the size of a freaking person, dude. - Yeah, like that's, they've got 12-foot wingspan. They're huge birds. - Yeah. - So how the hell is a rat, a mouse eating an albatross? - It's gang up on him, gang up on him. She's gang up on him. - Just throwing up sets. - Yeah, I mean, you're sitting there and you got the red mice and the blue mice and the orange mice and the purple mice and they just all-- - Tying their bandanas together? - Yeah, they come up and they get you. - So this is on Marion Island, it's an island between South Africa and Antarctica and humans are the ones who screwed this up. They introduced mice to the island of the 19th century. - Oh, no way, humans did something wrong. - No way, they have developed a taste for the wandering albatross, which that's that absolutely monstrous albatross. - This guy too big to fly? Maybe that's how they get him, is that they're like, yeah, you can't, we know you can't fly, we got you. That says, they can spend hours in flight without rest or a single flap. - Oh. - So they can just get up there and they got those big old wings and they can just, whoop, stay up in the air for literal hours. - Oh man. - So they can, not like an a fly, they can like super fly. They are a black, black citation movie. They are super fly. - But can they super duper fly? - Yeah, see. Birdsploitation? - I see what you guys are doing. - You don't like it? - I love it. - Okay. - I love it. - There we go. I don't like it, I love it. - To give people with nothing else better than to do at their time, something to do. The Mouse Free Marian Project, a collaboration between South African government and bird life South Africa is trying to raise $29 million to drop 660 tons of rodenticide-laced pellets onto the island. - Yeah, this is gonna go horribly. - But nothing wrong with 660 tons of rat poison being dumped on an island. - I feel like this is how Dr. Evil gets his sharks with laser beams. 'Cause there's a lot of sharks off this coast of South Africa. - Fucking sharks with fricking laser beams attached to their fricking heads. - Laser beams. - 1.32- - Not sea bass. - Million pounds. - That is insane. - Of rat poison. - I don't know who, I'm an idiot and I think that this is a bad idea. You know, like this is something that like, I don't know if like the people who call them the shots in South Africa are a bunch of dudes at a bar with a few pops in them because I feel like this is a drunk idea. And they're like, you know what, sounds good, we should probably do it. And nobody's in a right state of mind. I should be like, this is gonna work out really well for us. Over what period of time are they gonna do this? Like are they gonna just blink at the area? - Oh yeah, like it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a full- - We're gonna do it all at once in the winter of 2027. They like, they are going to-- - All right, so they get three months. - This is going to be like, - So it's a German blitzkrieg. - It's a, it's a massive issue they're super worried about in two years. (laughing) - Gotta make sure they, they're probably doing it. - Because I'm gonna call, I'm gonna count this winter as winter of 2025. - Sure. - I think I'm gonna be fair with that. - They're probably looking at this in the sense of like from climate and like best potential, like the mice, you know, kind of being down for the winter, coming up to the spring, it like leaks into the food supply. You know, like we've got to wait for two years. - Yeah. - Oh yeah, it'd be in the summer. - They're in winter right now. - Yeah, you're right. - It would be summer. - Yeah. - So they're going three. - Well, maybe this is their winter of 2027. - Yeah. - It doesn't specify. - So we're at the tail end of that. So like they couldn't like push this through to be a-- - Well maybe they don't have the money. Maybe they're hoping to raise the money by then. - Oh, right, right, right. - And hope that the rats don't eat all the Albatross before then. - And they're being dropped by helicopter. So it does say by striking in winter when the mice are most hungry, the conservation is hoping to eradicate the entire mouse population of up to 1 million individuals. The CEO says we have to get rid of every last mouse, every last mouse. If there was a male and female remaining, they could breed and get back to where they are now. They first arrived on the island, the mice are going to have just a bunch of inbred mice running around. - Right, well I mean they are already. They began the rain of terror by decimating the island's invertebrates and feasting on seabird eggs. By 2003, the mice were eating seabird chicks alive. And now a decade later, the mice have figured out how they can take on adults too, by hopping on them and slowly eating them until they succumb. - Yeah, that's like the frog in the pot theory, right? - Albatrosses are defenseless against mice because they didn't evolve alongside terrestrial predators. - Yeah, so they're dumb. - Oh my God. - All right, the whole idea, like they don't have any mechanism by which they might defend themselves, I don't know, shake? - Yeah, they're like, ow, ow, ow, ow. - It's like a lemon, is the dumbest animal? - Well, guess I'm gonna die now. - Just ow, quit it, ow, quit it. - And then is you dead? - All these albatrosses are just Ralph Wiggum, just giggling, I'm in danger. What the hell? You can't, like if you've got one on you, you can't go for a swim, take it out to the ocean. - Yeah, this is a great text, Vancouver for a text, on 5038646326. Your dollar goes for their Vancouver ford. They treat you right before, during and after the sale, visit them online at vancouverford.com. HBO will be making a Chernobyl-like show about this in 40 years. Yup. - The island of man cannot go to because they poisoned it to death with rat. - And you know what, I like-- - The sci-fi channel's gonna get their hands on this story. - Sharknado, ratnado, what is it called, rodenticide? - Rodenticide, rodenticide nado. - It'll be like a rodent version of the classic adventure or something. - This is like the day after tomorrow, where it's like instead of a hurricane, it's like a rodent, a rat poison hurricane. - Yeah. - That just tears through Africa. - Is there anything else that, it doesn't sound like anything else lives on the silent. If the albatross is so dumb, it never had a predator and they're like, yeah, just go ahead and eat me, I'm fine. - I love this, this is the literal last line. - Not worried about anything else dying. - Well, the Rodenticide at the heart of the new eradication strategy in contrast should only kill mice because it doesn't affect Marion Island's native invertebrates and the seawards usually feed at sea. - Yeah. - So-- - There's no way these birds are dumb enough to eat the rat poison. They are dumb enough to get eaten live by a rat, but there's no way they're gonna be dumb enough to be like, I'll try that. - Yeah. - And spread that to the entire bird population. The other part of this is there was a previous attempt to control them, the mice, guess what it was. - Make them pets. - Cats. - Cats. - They dropped feral cats on the island in 1948. - Operation Garfield dropped. - And what did they eat? - Oh, sorry, they took five cats aside after that. - They took five cats to the island in 1948, but the offsprings went feral and hunted the birds. - Yeah. - Sounds about right. - So yeah, we've tried to fix this once by introducing something else to the island that wasn't originally there after introducing the island, something that wasn't already there, and we're gonna fix it again the third time by introducing something to the island that wasn't already there. - We just never watched Wily Coyote in the road runner. - All right, so can we just say that maybe Darwin and only the strong survive, maybe the Albatross? Maybe the Albatross. - You know, big dumb bird. - If you get, like, we're like, "Hey, dude, you keep getting eaten by these rats." And then they're like-- - No, no, no, no. They are literal mice, they are not rats. - Okay, so you eat by this mice, and we're gonna try to save you, bud. We're gonna bring in these cats, and they're like, rah, derp, okay, get eaten by them cats now. These birds, man, these birds are dumb. Back to that text about the Chernobyl show. I liked that he said HBO will be making a documentary about this. I didn't say Max, because I believe in 40 years, they're gonna realize this was such a bad rebrand. We're gonna go, we're not calling it Max anymore, we're gonna go back to HBO. Thank you for that text. That's 3D chess you were playing there. - I do appreciate that. - Yeah. All right, well, now we have Rodenticide. China, not against the rats in mice are creepy. - I mean, yeah. - Don't like it. - You wanna have some fun with audio? - I love audio and I love fun. - Well, I'll have some fun with audio. - Both of these things are great. - And Danny, that's the 10th fan. If you watch us going solo last night, there's a really good chance that you may or may not have come across this ad, debuted a couple days ago. Nick Saban's got some free time, and he's having some fun with it. - Oh, this is cool. - Check in time, it's three. - It's 255. - I know. - Is this what he's doing now? - Have a seat. - As your host, I have some rules. First, no showers longer than five minutes. This isn't a spa. There's no streaming, only cable television. - Any games for the kids? - No games, no fun. The kids aren't even allowed in the house. That's a rule. - He's now mowing the lawn. Mowing the lawn. Nick Saban on the riding lawn mower. - There's a great barbecue outside, but don't touch that. - How'd you guys get inside? - Through flush, maximum, for bathroom, business. - Yes, guys. - In the hot tub? - You guys got about 10 minutes because this is daddy time in the tub. (laughs) - Daddy time in the tub. - Okay, I'm gonna have to help you with the editing of that, but I believe there is a way that we can take the hot tub bubbling out of the background, and we can get a clean daddy time in the tub by Nick Saban. I need that in my life. - Yeah, I need Daddy time in the tub by Nick Saban. - Noncoaching Nick Saban is so good. - I'm gonna go out on a limb here. That is an ad lib, ad lib, because I don't think anybody's riding for Nick Saban daddy time in the tub. I bet he's like, no, I got something. At the Saban compound, we call this Daddy time in the tub. You know, I'm gonna say that right now. - Perfect. - Because if the 70 year old man who makes these nuts jokes regularly to college kids, he definitely has dead a time in the tub. - Yeah, there's something that more and more the best characters are showing themselves, and they refuse to do it while playing. - Yeah. - And I think we're starting to turn a little corner with McAfee being drunk and high on air. - He held it together sober today. - He did. - In Morgantown, he was sober. - Did you see Jesse Palmer, though, in Joe Tuscator? - No. - In the booth for that game in Ireland? - No. Oh, yeah, I did. Yeah, well, I mean, when in Dublin-- - Were they a little haggard? - Oh, when in Ireland do is the Irish dude? - They only showed them a couple of times because I don't think they wanted to show them. - Great point. - But there's a, like, there has been a shift, and it's not lacking of professionalism. It's not taking each other, it's taking this so seriously. - Yeah. - And there's, I think one of the guys that is going to be responsible for this massive evolution of this and, like, stop trying to prop yourself up is Jeff Teague. And there's a very specific reason why. You've caught a couple of the Club 520 clips, right? Okay, I've got one here from that he had just the other day. And the reason I want to play this is, just listen to, like, how he describes himself and everything else that goes on with this. - They popcorn my drink. They used to make me buy donuts in the morning. - Oh, (beep) - I'm a (beep) - We're always forget. Come on, man, just, I'll get 'em next time. - They would never eat 'em. So I just started putting a box in my locker. Put it back out every morning. It was finally a night and smooth. You know, it had to be smooth. He come, man, he wanted a donut. I put the box out, the donuts are green. They molded everything. What the (beep) (laughter) - Next thing you know, I'll hoard from my dog. Like, they bought the popcorn in your car. - Damn, Al told you. - Shout out to Al. So half the season, I'm putting my key in my tight. Finally, I get to play the last game of season, I forgot. I had a great game. I had 26 and 15. I'm all hype. They ruled me on, yeah. We get in the locker room. Everybody usually showered. Everybody already dressed. And they like, yeah. All right, what we going out tonight? We gonna see you? I come up the steps. Everybody got flashlights on me. - How about what the (beep) - Hold on. - I walk to my car and I open the door popcorn flying out. What the (beep) I look that smooth. I'm gonna fly in your tires. - Be it light. (laughter) - You know, you got a little room. See you more of a Tyler light. - All right, man. They paid me $5,000 to do the (beep) man. He was like, it was all of them. They all came again. I'm like, where am I iPad at? He's like, oh yeah, it's in your trunk. I open a trunk, it's full of popcorn. Ah, they ain't playing, but they was my dog. I went to the club with that popcorn. I just broke it. You're something to get a D2. - Yeah, you're $5, man. I ain't get a D2. My brother says (beep) I'm excited. I do that (beep) (laughter) - I love that. - It's the self-deprecation. - Yeah. - It's still allowing yourself to be real and like stop trying to build your own legend. - But there is a finite amount of professional athletes that have the ability to do that. And broadcasters too. I mean, you talk about Tessetour and Palmer. I mean, very few of them can because guys like Dak Prescott. - Oh God. - I mean, he's the times that he's tried, it has been so-- - It's crazy. - It makes your skin crudal to why. - You have to be, it has to be a natural thing, but there was this five, six, seven years ago, there was this every bit of PR had to be scripted. Every appearance, it got so buttoned up there around like, because you had the real social media push of Twitter and Instagram. And everything was a sound bite and everything we'd use against you. Players across sports and coaches of Belichick, across sports buttoned everything up. Everything was locked down. No one showed any character whatsoever. - Well, in a large part in that, we got to look back to, you have to look back at, Michael Jordan was manufactured. - Oh yeah, every last bit of it. - And he was the most successful pitch man that we have seen in sports. And nobody knew who Michael Jordan was. Like we didn't know what his personality was, because if we would have known, I don't think a lot of people would have really connected or liked Michael Jordan all that much. - No, there's a zero percent chance that anybody would have liked him. - So as people said, all right, how can we be like Mike? All of a sudden it was like, hey, maybe we should show a little bit of personality, be a little bit different and show who we really are. And then there was this flood of, uh oh, we had a lot of arrests. We had a lot of guys that were stepping in and saying things that backfired on him. And then it became, nope, everybody's got to button it up. We can't know anything about anybody because that's how Michael Jordan did it. And that's how he was successful. - And it's like, it became like, it's why we were talking about with, with, uh, college football, the disruptors. It's, it's, it's been about 10 years now where the disruptors have shown, no, you can be a character. You can be like, look at the most successful endeavors right now of athletes. It's the Kelsey's who are themselves. It's Max Crosby. It's Joel Long. Like if you look at, just-- - Chris Long. - Chris Long. - It's Twitter handle, always gets me. - Yeah. - But the, it's guys who are just busting with the boys. - Well, in the-- - I think what we are finding is that the catch-all marketing and bundling everything up and ever gonna treat all of them the same, that is gone. - Monoculture is gone. You can't do that. - You're not going to have the ability, like these, the marketing people, the ad agencies are saying, all right, who do we got? Because if we have a guy who's dull and we don't want to push him out there in his personality out there. - Go Mike Trout. - Let's protect him at all costs, close everything down, he's still gonna be marketable and like Dak Prescott still has national ads and stuff, right? But it's not, he's not gonna have a podcast. Leave that to Michael Parsons where they're saying, no, you have a personality that will connect with people, engage with people, and so the catch-all is-- - You and see Joel's route go to Japan. - The catch-all is gone. - Yeah. - And that's for the betterment of-- - Everyone. - Us knowing our athletes. And if you are saying, I want to know more about this guy because he's really damn good at what he does in his craft, but we don't get to hear a whole lot about him, well that's because they're saying, you don't want to know about him. - No. - Like he, I mean really, like-- - They're either boring or what you will find out you will not like. - Yeah, and I think that's okay. - Yes. - And that's what guys are gonna make a lot of money on and there's gonna be guys who don't listen, no less, and are gonna be over the top, right? Well, Ant Edwards has a little bit of this too. - Oh God. - Where he comes out and he says like, these things completely out of pocket and then you're going, I'm not so sure about that one, boss. - Brain gas. - But things like that are great. But then he just keeps going and it's like, okay, we're gonna have to pull the reins back and let 'em go, pull the reins back and let 'em go and that's gonna work for him eventually. But you're right on the guys like the Kelsey Brothers. Guys like Julian Edelman who now has a podcast too that's wildly successful. You're gonna start seeing more and more of their personality. And I think a guy who transitioned and was like in both of these phases where he was caught up at the beginning of his career in the don't say anything, keep your personality yourself. And then now as his career has gone on the times of change and he's become more established and feels comfortable with it, Steph Curry is a guy that we're seeing more and more of his personality. It's not for everybody. - No. - But for the people that it is, they eat it up and it's working for him right now. And now that he has his own production company, we're gonna start seeing more and more of it post career once it's done. - It's just an interesting shift in how things are being made. - No doubt. - Speaking of shift, let's shift into hour number three where we have our final matchup of the best college mall rivalry trophies and all of college football with a major asterisk coming up here on Danny and Dusty tuning the fan. ♪ You spent it over here ♪ - Now at T-Mobile, get four 5G phones on us and four lines for $25 a line per month when you switch with eligible trade-ins, all on America's largest 5G network. - Minimum of four lines for $25 per line for a month without a paid discount using debit or bank account. $5 more per line without a pay plus taxes and fees and $10 device connection charge. Phones be at 24 monthly bill credits for well qualified customers. 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