Danny and Dusty

8-28-24 Full show

Wyatt Earp was not a good dude. Steelers name a starting QB. Voice of the Ducks Jerry Allen joins live from Eugene for 2 segments. Jerod Mayo has picked a starting QB, but it's a secret. 59 FBS vs FCS matchups in Week 1, but what are the GOOD games this weekend? Worst Day on the Web: PEDs in cockfighting? Notable Central Connecticut State alumni. College football rivalry trophy matchups. Colorado accused Oregon of impropriety after their whoopin'. The Athletic's top 100 impact transfers. Sean McVay got PRP injections where?

Duration:: 2h 17m
Broadcast on:: 28 Aug 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

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This is going to be the new Wednesday normal for us right now. I am down in Otson Stadium right now. I'm overlooking the Oregon Ducks football field in Otson Stadium. I see the welcome to Otson sign. I see the Cobra Hills off into the distance. I've got it all going right here at Otson Stadium because I'm down at Oregon Ducks practice on Wednesdays for my sideline responsibilities. Hey, you are still in the cage. They don't let the Meringue Tang out of the cage, my man. No, you keep it in the zoo. Yeah, you can't be trusted to be walking, right? Last time you walked around this stadium, you ended up injured toward your hamstring. Yeah, I was literally walking around the stadium, not actually in the stadium, was around the stadium, or to the stadium to be more succinct. But we will still party on. I can see you guys. You guys can see me. For the YouTube party animals at youtube.com/tenityaimthefan, there will be a time where we will get the YouTube stream to travel down here with me. And we'll have a little camera up so you guys can see all the goings on of this-- I mean, it's a great view, but there's not a lot of action. But you'll be able to see me soon enough. It'll be OK. It'll be-- It's the baby steps. Just working and working through the kinks. That's right. That's right. That's right. Was your wrestling Wednesday starting off, Mr. Murray? Not too bad. Just minor technical issues up here, as I cannot connect to our little Google meet, because why would anything work normally? But other than that, we're doing pretty good. Wow. And apparently, Orr Joe Guy, already in on the Vancouver Fort Tech site, 503864-626, he is our wrestling go to. Indeed. And we do need to honor, at some point today, Rust, Psychosid, RIP. But he is already in with Happy Bash in Berlin, wrestling Wednesday. That's a very, very deep cut, I feel like. I feel like the Bash in Berlin, I'm just like WrestleMania Royal Rumble Monday, not Night Raw. That's Smackdown. You got that? Yeah, the only time I'm bashing-- I don't go outside. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no. The only time I'm bashing anything in Berlin, I'm going full World War II. Wow. OK. I mean-- That's aggressive, but totally unbrand. I mean, is that aggressive? Are we-- Yeah, we're not at that point yet. We're still not over that. Yeah, we're still like-- I think our generation's probably the last generation, because we knew people that we're in World War II. You know what I mean? Yeah, we met some people that had fought in World War II. You're absolutely correct. So like, there's that kind of like lingering hatred, along with the generational time periods. Like, we don't think about World War I or the Civil War or Revolutionary War. We kind of laugh about, you know, South Socks, England Socks, but, you know. But it's not-- there's not like a real vitriolic hatred for the Britzer or the South in the sense of like-- No, we got over that. Yeah, no, you're done, done. Like, Germany, we still kind of look at like, hmm. No, let's chill out on things, OK? Yeah, they still need to be checked. But hey, that reminds me when you said, you know, the Britzer, have you seen the new Wider series on Netflix? No, did they try to make him British? No, no, they didn't try to make Wider British. No, it's like a docu-series where they do like the reenactment type stuff. It's actually really well done. But they bounce back and forth and they basically give all of the background to the shootout at the OK Corral and kind of who Wider was. And why it was such a big deal and led to that, it's really fascinating. I don't want to ruin it for anybody. But the Brits were actually-- they actually played a role in the OK-- the shootout at the OK Corral, which I had no idea about until watching this documentary. I refuse to believe that Brits made it that far west. Well, no, no. You're going to have to watch it. It's about strengthening the-- Does it have Kurt Russell or Val Kilmer? Neither one of those guys are in it. Samuel? No, he's also not in it. But the actors are good. The actors are good. You're going to like it because it paints Wider up in a different light than Kurt Russell did, that's for sure. He wasn't a good dude. Wider? Yeah. No. He was not a good dude. Now, this is something that I had heard before, but they go over it in the documentary so this shouldn't be a spoiler or anybody. But the movie Tombstone kind of paints him as like this by the book "Lommen," right? Yeah, no, he wasn't. He was a dude that he said he did not like to use guns, but the reason why he didn't use this gun very often is because he would just walk up to a criminal and just say, are you so-and-so? And then punch them in the face and then drag them to jail. Yes. That was more of his-- His style, which that is not the guy that we saw from Tombstone. No. But it tells the story of why the US dollar was trying to make its way back after the Civil War and Tombstone had played a massive role. Oh, OK. It's really good. You are a history buff. Yes. You would like it. It's the-- you are a secret service part of it, right? Yeah, you're also a violent sicko. I am. And so you would also like it because there's plenty of that. My algorithm on social media is tuned just perfectly now to where once every couple of days, a fight gets thrown in there. Yeah, that's totally fine. Whether it's like a street fight or a military action. Yeah. It just-- it's like a little emerald agassi. Bam, into my social media films. I'm not sure I want anything white or perlated that doesn't involve Sam Elliott. Or I'll just grist for the mill. God, that's right. Yeah. Tombstone is one of my favorite. Tombstone is the movie I've seen more than any other movie. It's not particularly close. It's a good movie. It is the most rewatchable movie of all time. You can put it on in the background and just be totally fine. Every now and then, you'll be working on something or it's just people are around. You'll throw-- a line will come up and you'll say alongside the TV and then you go back to whatever you're doing. Boy, you're not wrong about that. It's perfect. But all we get is like Shawshank and Conair. Like, why not? I see that in a little Tombstone on TNT on that rainy Saturday. Where the change is, though, it's the Marvel movies now. You have an-- Spider-Man is the old day every day. Look, I am totally OK with Marvel movies being the new Tombstone replacement. I am OK with that. There's a lot of good lines. You can get in and out of it. You can pop back in if you want to turn your brain off for a few minutes. I'm one of those absolute lunatics who-- No way. Yeah, no. They can just stop right there. When I sit down to write, if I'm writing an article for the Patreon or something like that, I will have-- I've got three monitors, right? And one of the monitors will be on a TV show. I'll just put whatever, like I'll load in my XFINITY app or whatever and find a TV show that I can just kind of leave on. And then one monitor will be nothing but whatever research or videos or game film that I'm watching in the middle monitor will be whatever I'm writing. And I will sit down. I will do this for, like, when I write, I'll sit down for, like, four or five hours at a time and just kind of go into my own little world. And I will just pivot to the monitor to the left and turn my brain off for 10 minutes. And, like, whatever show is there, I will just watch. And Marvel movies are so perfect for that. I can just-- you can just cop in and out of them without any hesitation whatsoever. Absolutely. I'm with you on that. The Vancouver 4 text line saying I have robot voice right now. It's cleaning up. Yeah. So I think you're actually good now. Oh, all right. We fixed the glitch. Joey's in the other room right now. And I think we've addressed it. Yeah, we just realized that the stream hadn't started yet because I'm an idiot. Oh, so I was right. Yeah. You were right. OK. Yeah. OK, perfect. Yeah. Not that you were an idiot, just that I didn't start. And, look, in this case-- I'm going to lay out on this one. I'm going to let you guys settle this between yourself. Joey's in the producer booth right now, just not against finally, accordingly, so all right. We've got a sports show, believe it or not. Between us talking about Tombstone and Wider and Marvel movies, we will have a radio sports program today. Jerry Allen, Voice of the Ducks, is going to join us coming up at 12.30 as we are down here in Austin Stadium. No better person to bring us into the college football season than Jerry. And he's going to sit down and put the headsets on and have a conversation with us about the 2024 Oregon football season. I want to get his thoughts on Tombstone as well. I know he has thoughts on Tombstone. We'll also got a lot of college and NFL news and notes. The crazy part of yesterday was some names actually getting lopped off of NFL rosters and getting swooped up today. We got to some of them yesterday during yesterday's show as they were happening. But boy, some real surprising names getting cut and now trying to find new homes across the NFL. And again, list season, it hits you like a ton of bricks right before week one of the NFL in college football season. So we'll have to get listicle too. So we've got to-- well, all of a sudden, we have a ton that we need to get to on this Wednesday afternoon. I'm down here at Austin Stadium. Danny, still back in the studios, along with Russ, holding it down on this wrestling Wednesday. Where we got to start this bad boy off, a big decision was made in the steel city. This is Danny Dusty on the fan. I'm not sure how surprising this is to anyone, but the Pittsburgh Steelers have named Russell Wilson, the starting quarterback, for week one in Atlanta against the Falcons and Kirk Cousins. Russell Wilson, Justin Fields, kind of a back and forth throughout the preseason, mainly because Russ's availability for the first couple of weeks, he just wasn't able to play. But I think after what everybody saw from Justin Fields, this seemed like the no-brainer that you go with the vet. I mean, the thing I take away from this is broken, dysfunctional Russell Wilson is still better than Justin Fields. And that kind of tells you everything you need to know about where they actually are with their quarterbacks. It's not a good place, they're not. And you can say, well, there they'll probably shift to Justin Fields because there's quote-unquote, more potential there later in the season. But like, if you're gonna do that, then why not do it now? Like I don't understand the reasoning if you're going to make this switch eventually. Because the idea that somehow you'll be better today but with Russell Wilson, but better in the long haul with Justin Fields when they're both not good, I don't, it doesn't make any sense to me. My brain just cannot handle, this is like a double negative being a positive. Just doesn't, the math does not make sense. - Well, yeah, that goes back to the old adage if you got two, you got none, right? - Yes. - And so you're gonna go with the guy who is, I guess, less dangerous in the ways that it will hurt you. Maybe that's his new nickname, is less dangerous. But he is in the fact that what was the bit why the wide criticism of Russell Wilson in his time in Seattle, right? - Mr. on Lamby. (laughs) - It was that he was a very good play action passer, could push the ball down the field, get those big chunk plays, but he was risk averse. And a lot of times for a quarterback, you want a quarterback who is risk averse and doesn't get you in trouble by trying to force the ball in and throwing interceptions. But Russell Wilson was kind of on that extreme end of it, right? Where he wasn't throwing picks, but he was taking a lot of sacks. And I guess if you're Mike Tomlin, who's a defensive minded head coach, it's better for you in your mind, right? To be able to punt the ball away, then sudden change, bring your defense out on the field. That is the reasoning that I can get to that point, but to what you're saying, Danny, is I agree, in that it's not, neither one of them are a good option, if that's the mental gymnastics that you're gonna have to do to stick the landing on rust being the guy right now and saying, well, you never know, down the road, Justin Fields can be that guy. - The thing I take this in general, it's just kind of looking at the state of quarterbacks around the NFL and kind of the idea of which ones are on the most solid footing. Like we know who the top 10 quarterbacks are in the NFL. We talked about the quarterback tiers yesterday and kind of the where things sit with, once you get past the tier two guys, which is essentially your top 10, you get into that tier three, those guys all felt like they're on solid ground, but you get into that tier four group and you start kind of going, yikes, I don't know, and even some of the tier three guys towards the bottom, you're like, I don't get it. Does this feel like the least stable quarterback position in the NFL right now? - Yeah, because I think in any of the other ones that we could talk about, whether it's Minnesota with Sam Darnell and you have JJ McCarthy. One, JJ is a rookie and hurt. So that kind of helps the, wow, you know, we're gonna roll out Sam Darnell's anyway. In New England, at least you're selling that, and we talk about this a lot with the trailblazers, right? You have that Hopium, the Hop from the fan base that in New England, you have Jacobi Brissette, but that's only because we're waiting for Drake May and he's gonna be the guy somewhere down the road. In Denver, it is, can't be much worse than what we had last year, and we got a rookie in Bonex who's looked wildly efficient throughout the pre-season, and everything that Sean Payton said he was gonna be for us, he's gonna be that guy, we all know this, we talked about this when Bo was named starter, right, is he's gonna go through his lumps. He is a rookie in the NFL where they are very well coached and everybody is the best player on their college team, right? Except for maybe if you went to Georgia. But you have, there will be a learning curve, but you have that hope of he's young, he can learn, we can go through this and we expect this. Pittsburgh is really the only area, the only place where you're like, man, we're in the drags of it no matter what. I mean, even Seattle with Gino Smith being your number one, you're going, he went to a Pro Bowl, he went to a Pro Bowl for us, and we have Sam Howe who looked electric at times, right? I think you're right in that maybe your Vegas Raiders are the only other franchise that are kind of in this boat right now. - Maybe? - I mean, and I'm sorry to say that, but at least your fan base is on, we got the plan and the plan is to get the quarterback of the future next year, but that's not the mentality of Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh is, they've got a roster that's going to be good enough to go nine and eight, eight and nine, be right in the middle of the pack because their defense is still going to be really good, they're still going to have a good run game and they're going to win a lot of games, right? Your hope for your Raiders is, you kind of send it in the side of the mountain this year, right? - Yes, I mean, that's kind of the idea and that's what the Steelers have refused to do and you look at every other team in the NFL. I mean, is there a team that hasn't done that with the exception of the 49ers who stumbled on it and literally their, the literal last pick in the draft? After, of course, getting all the way up to number three. So that they have literally hit both extremes. But I mean, everybody wants to talk about how you can't tank in the NFL. Every single team with the exception of the Patriots in the past 30 years has had to do this and even then he replaced a quarterback that was drafted where? - Number one overall. - Okay, so it's like this whole idea of like, oh, we can just kind of figure it out and maybe we can find value like, sure, that's fine. But at some point in time, it's becoming so apparent that you have to. Now, whether or not you get it right, I think that's up for debate. But this whole, like, I would love for somebody, like what the analytics community, whether it's a, you know, PFF or any of the other groups that to take the quarterback dad, and they probably have this over the last 50 years. Hell, let's just shorten it to 30 to like the passing era and look at draft value for quarterbacks and then the actual winning components that came with patchwork quarterbacks. Quarterbacks that weren't supposed to be a part of the solution as it were. Because if you are a Steelers fan and you are so deluded that you have gone full Chicago bears and be like, no, no, Justin Fields, I can see it. Like that's a level of copium that I just can't like, you've watched this dude for four years being not good. - Yeah. - The list of guys in the history of the NFL, let alone modern passing era who have done nothing in four years, you're like, I figured it out. And I think we're seeing a bit of that with Sam Darnold in Minnesota. This is year, what, six, year seven? - Yeah. - And it's all because of draft value. Darnold being a, you know, a top pick and Fields being what pick, 11. You just see this start piling up and it's just like, I can't wrap my head around it. - I know it hurts your brain. Pankoo before text, 950-3864-6326. Your dollar goes further, if Pankoo before, they treat you right before, during end, after the sale, visit them online, Vankoo before.com. The New York Giants are in that boat too, with Danny Jones and Drew Locke, right? And it's not a fun boat to be in. It can seem very lonely, lonely at times. But, I mean, we're going down and we can do that then. All right, the bottom three, you know, quarterback situations, if you will, in the NFL, you can go Pittsburgh, Vegas, New York. Which one is the most desolate at this point? - Pittsburgh. - You think it's Pittsburgh? - Yeah, because they don't have to-- - They don't have to be good enough, or you're not gonna be bad enough, right? - Yeah, you don't have the path to it. I think that's the legitimate thing and that the Giants, like, they'll play Daniel Jones and they're gonna be terrible because he's very bad. He's just not a good quarterback and that team is just so bereft of any actual talent on the offensive side, outside of neighbors. And the Raiders, like, it is what it is. Like, I don't care what Antonio Pierce does, they're gonna suck. They're just not good. There'll be the little defense that could, where it's a bunch of guys that you've never heard of that may end up making. Like, probably it would not surprise me if the Raiders end up like a top 12 defense in the NFL. Like, it's weird as that is. - No. - It's like, it doesn't really make any sense, but like, you look at the roster defensively and you go, well, no one sucks. You know, and then you look at the offensive side and you go, wow, there's a lot of suck on this side of the ball. So, and in today's NFL, I just don't, I don't think you can be that unless you have this overwhelming defense and being productive. And honestly, I hope they don't. I hope they don't. I genuinely hope they don't. And it's one of those things where it's like, yeah, you probably should've done this last year, dummies. - Yeah, absolutely. You know, as you were saying that, I was going through, did you see ESPN had their list of the most of asking quarterbacks or asking players in the NFL about quarterbacks where the top quarterbacks, who's, what Ricky's going to have the best career, who's the most overrated and underrated quarterbacks in the NFL? And as you were talking about that, Justin Herbert was fourth on the most overrated, but he was also fifth on the most underrated. It's a weird spot to be. - Isn't that a weird spot? - Well, I think we need to talk about this a little bit later in the show. It's a squirrel moment, but it's also, I think, kind of poignant. On my way in today, I don't know what wild hair just crawled up my back, but I was, Brandon Roy popped into my head. And I tweeted out some, the general idea of, he was the perfect encapsulation in the NBA of that boy, nice, where it was the perfect combination of aesthetically pleasing, like the quote unquote real Hooper, while also being a super high end talent. And I was actually kind of wondering, like, does that exist in the NFL? Like, is there somebody in the NFL that you just has like a near universal approval rating where you're just like, they're really fun to watch. I don't care what team they play for. Like, it just feels like they don't necessarily have to be the best player on the planet. But there's so- - Like it would have been Larry Fitzgerald, that it's not. - Yeah, yes, 100%, like universal approval rating. Every player, like, nobody's calling them underrated. Nobody's calling them overrated. They're just going, rated, just, but it's also, it's what they do is beautiful, but it's also even for like the real, like, I, analytics is the devil, like he's a real Hooper, he's a real baller, he's a real play, like, 'cause I feel like Herbert is, to an extent, one of those guys, but he has his detractors. So even if he's on the list, he doesn't make the cut, if that makes sense, do you know what I mean? Like, just somebody who's- - Well, I think it's Patrick Mahomes, 'cause he's just faring away the best quarterback in the NFL round. - Yeah, but he has his detractors. - Yeah. - You know what I mean? Like, I- - Because people need to, to pipe down with it. - See, they're dumb. - The only reason why he has his detractors is because they're just people that don't like the best. - Yeah, absolutely. - Yeah, that, well, that and his wife and his brother. Well, that too. I think that those are probably the other thing. I think, like, what, 'cause I think Herbert does kind of fall on that because he throws like one of the best balls you've ever seen. - Yeah. - And when it leaves his hand, it just looks beautiful. - I remember telling Andrew Nemek, when Justin Herbert was a junior, I think. No, it was his senior year. It was his senior 'cause he got hurt as junior. When he was a senior at Sheldon High School, he threw a ball at Providence Park, and I looked over at Nemek, and I said, that is the most beautiful football I've ever seen a high school quarterback throw. It was a crossing route and hit a crosser in the middle of the end zone. And it was like, the nose was down, it was on a line, and his receiver had no other option but to catch that ball. He could not drop it. And I just looked at Nemek and said, that was incredible. And I am with you. There's something about his spiral that you just go, "Yeah, that's pretty, man." He does sort of beautiful football. - But you don't wanna have him in that sense. - I have a couple of guys. - Yeah. - I have a couple of guys that popped into mind, but what we need to do right now is we need to class this show up a bit. We're gonna class this show up. Jerry Allen, voice of the Ducks, he's gonna join me in the booth at Otson Stadium next first. You got Jeff Rust with the Sports Inter-Update. (upbeat music) - Welcome back into Danny and Dusty. I am live at Otson Stadium right now, looking out over the valley in a beautiful day down here in Eugene, Oregon. And we are joined with Danny back in the studio up in Portland. We are joined now by a man who usually gets to set the scene, but I get to take it over for today. Jerry Allen, voice of the Ducks. How you doing? - I feel a little uncomfortable sitting this close to you. (laughing) So I'm gonna widen out just a little bit here. - I mean, is that the real reason why you send me all the way down to the sidelines for these games? - Well, just saying, yeah, kinda, we voted on it. - Don't feel bad, Jerry. I literally sit on the other side of an enormous table up here. So, trust me, I get it, I get it. - All right, here we are. We're fine, it's finally game week for the Oregon Ducks. This off season, we short 'cause there's a Fiesta Bowl, but it's also seemed like it's taken forever because of the hype and the excitement surrounding this team. Can you remember a time where there has been this much excitement heading into a season? - You know, maybe Marcus Marriota's last year when we knew that Oregon had a pretty good team and a chance to get to the national championship game. He was the guy that could get you there and we could sort of sense that. I think Dennis Dixon hit the year that we lost Dennis. We knew midway through the season, not preseason going into, but once that season started, we realized here's a guy that has a great chance to win the Heisman if we can win the national title. So there were those times when you felt that excitement, but maybe not as early as we are this year with the change to the Big 10 and all that, you know, the nation's talking about Oregon and the Big 10 and Ohio State and the Big 10 and the Ducks and the Big 10. I mean, it's pretty cool. - Yeah, Jerry, well, one of the things that I've kind of wondered sitting from the outside looking and you've been there for a long time. You've seen the different iterations of this program. And for me, my criticism of Oregon has always been that they just didn't have the horses and the trenches to be on the level of saying that we are a national title competitor. That feels like, and it looks like it has changed over the last couple of years. And they can put those horses on the front of the cart now and go, no, we're here with everybody else. What has that transition been like kind of watching that ascension of, hey, we can do it every couple of years to, no, we're here year after year after year now. - Well, we knew, Jordan and I talked about, you know, the pieces that were missing, or maybe not a pieces that were missing, but the depth that did not allow Oregon to continue through a season when they would start well and then suffer some injuries and then you didn't have those backups that depth. But I'm right playing Ohio State in a Rose Bowl and I can't remember what year it was, but we matched up pretty well. And linebackers were about the same size, both sides, but Ohio State's linebackers were not only big, they were faster than they'll get up. We couldn't compete with that. So there were areas or levels, as you say, that Oregon wasn't quite at year after year. And we've seen it develop now. I think Mario Cristobal really should get credit for bringing in some bigger, stronger, faster guys and really got Oregon up to a different level. And now Dan Lanning has really topped that. And so now you're seeing across the board starters that can compete at that level with some of the bigger schools. We're talking about Alabama, Ohio State, putting guys in the NFL and the trenches. Oregon's doing that now. And so yeah, it's changed. And we can see when we weren't there and we've seen them slowly gain ground and get to what we believe they are there now. - With hype, do you get a little, at times, do you get a little cautious, like too many people are talking about the ducks? - Yeah, I do, I find myself doing that. I mean, I got to dial myself back because you watch practice and you talk to the coaches and you read the headlines and you listen to ESPN. It's like, yeah, that's us, that's what we're gonna do. You know, and it's the wait a minute, wait a minute. Okay, 'cause I'll find myself starting to talk like that with people, with fans, and it's like, and now I've learned to say that all said, everything I just said, but now you gotta prove it, okay? Haven't proved a thing yet, gotta prove it. - Jerry, there's a ton of transfers into Oregon this year with two very prominent names in Evan and Dylan. Outside of those guys, who is just kind of popped on the scene and threw practices through camps that you've been like, oh, this looks a little different. - Well, it's almost a little difficult to answer that question. One, I'm not supposed to talk about what I see in practice. (laughing) - They got a sniper. - Yeah, I know that they're right now. - But the real reason is it used to be that you would see a kid coming in like Jonathan Stewart or Royce Freener or something like that, and they just stood out. You just knew, this guy's different, and they would run through people, around people and past people. And now, you're not seeing that guy. I mean, sure, there are a couple of guys that stand out, but the reason you're not seeing that one or two guys that are running circles around people and are stand outs is because there are more stand outs. So you've got, in a long past, you had maybe a five star, maybe a four star, maybe a couple of four stars and three stars. Now you've got fours and five stars in, and so you don't have the guys that separate themselves and make you go, oh wow, you're seeing that more as a team or a group of guys rather than one or two individuals. - And I think that kind of goes to, it has to be a very specific skill set that makes that guy pop now, and that's the credit to the roster building that you're talking about, because I remember last year, the buzz around Tess Johnson was, this guy's just different. And then we saw, it took him a while to kind of ramp up and get up to speed with the offense and terminology and such, but by the end of the year, we were watching Tess Johnson in that twitchiness, that speed, it's completely different than anybody on the field. - And those guys like Tess and Evan Stewart, same thing, they make the guys who are around them so much better because they're competing with guys that are a level above them or were expected to be a level above them, and they're competing with them, and it makes them better. So you're not seeing, I mean, Tess Johnson, I think is a tremendous leader of the Whiteout groups because guys want to be like him, so they're competing with him. They're trying to be better than him, which has made them better than they were, which is maybe kind of odd or hard to understand, but I'm impressed with Oregon's wide receiver group, running back group. I mean, we just are breaking down groups. There's a guy here and there that stand out, but I think the thing that's gonna carry this team this year, Dusty, it's not just one or two or three stars or just a couple of guys here and there. I think it's the team in general that have raised their level of athleticism and quality. - Jerry, I want to keep you around here because I want to ask some questions. We were talking about those guys with the twitchiness and the guys that just stand out, and I want to get your thoughts on, you've seen a lot of University of Oregon football. Who have been the most explosive players, your favorite players to watch here at the University of Oregon, and we'll get that from Jerry. As he joins us from Hudson Stadium on Danny and Dusty on 1080 The Fan. Danny and Dusty, split show. We're gonna be doing these Wednesdays as I'm down in Eugene for Ducks practices every Wednesday morning and bringing you Danny and Dusty in the afternoons. And we decided to bring on Jerry Allen, voice of the Ducks. You've seen a lot of Oregon football, Jerry, and a lot of explosive players. Who are some of the guys that stick out to you as the gamebreakers that were just so much fun to call because you never knew when the game was gonna turn on its head. - You know, I'm gonna say one of the first guys that you're gonna say, he wasn't a game breaker. But he was, and that's Bill Musgrave. - Oh, yeah. - Okay, Bill Musgrave wasn't that one of those powerful runners. He didn't have the greatest speed in the world. He didn't have the greatest arm in the world. Bill Musgrave had a knack of knowing where everybody was at the right time and getting them the ball. He wouldn't get a fight in there like John Elway. He was just gonna get him the ball. And then that very first game go back to Colorado when they upset Colorado in Boulder. It was the beginning of something special. It's where we are, I think in 2024. I think he started, but he was one of those guys. I think of the, so I'll toss him. He said, Jeremiah Johnson. I saw him in practice the other day. JJ had, to my mind still, the best straight arm as I'm running back. I've ever seen. - He was, he came in right when Twitter had started and almost instantly Jeremiah's diff arm became a Twitter account of its own that took on a life of its own. - It was the thing of beauty. It really was. - Just punishing. - Oh yeah. Eric Castle played in the secondary along with, oh my gosh, Ashland High School. - Chad Kota. - Chad Kota, those guys laid the lumber. I mean, fun watching them come up and hit somebody and knock the ball loose or do something like that. I think, we were just talking about Royce Freeman. Jonathan Stewart is one of the first guys that I remember when fall camp started, he came in as a freshman. And we looked at him and his legs were bigger than my body. And we kind of looked at him and went, "Holy cow, why didn't he go straight to the NFL?" And that's the way he played too. He was a specimen. I think watching Joey Harrington, Kenan Howery, it's tough to go down a list and leave somebody out. But those are the names that pop out. Another one is Halodinata. - Oh my goodness. - Halodinata was the anchor that every team in America wishes they had every year. I mean, he was a double team guy. You, he was gonna have to be double teamed, which made the whole defense better, so. - Oh, he was so big that they would double team him and he still wouldn't move an inch. - Oh no, yeah. - Just, no, he was a rock. - An anchor in the middle. And then he got to the NFL and it was like, well, it's not just a Pac-10 problem. It's a problem of humans trying to move Halodinata. - Yeah. And he was so soft-spoken that you could set this close to him and not hear what he was saying because he was so humbled and very, very soft. Now, there were so many of them guys. I mean, it's hard to, hard to stop talking about the list. - Jarrin, in the same vein, you know, unfortunately, it's the, the end of the Pac-12, but it's the beginning of the Big Ten for Oregon, Washington, USC UCLA. There's gonna be that kind of line to draw where those four teams have some shared history that can bring with them. But when you're going into that conference, what are the things that you're kind of hoping to experience or to see or what are the things that you're looking forward to as, you know, you move into a new conference covering this team? - Well, one of the things I'm looking forward to may say I, but I want to see USC UCLA and Washington continue to have success, along with Oregon, to be able to put it in the Big Ten and have the rest of the nation finally say, "Holy cow, they play football on the West Coast." I think, I think those four teams being in the Big Ten, if they can be successful on a regular basis, I think we'll open a lot more eyes across the nation. I'm looking forward to that. And then obviously the venue is the history, the tradition, Rich Big Ten. I mean, going back to Ohio State again, back to Michigan, and then to Illinois, going to Penn State. I mean, I mean, these are venues and teams that have watched for years and years and thought were the hotbed of college football, even though we're the West Coast Pac-12, that was more college football. - What place are you most looking forward to go this year? Because you got the Rose Bowl to start it off. You talk about venues, the Rose Bowl to start it off, then West Lafayette, Indiana, Purdue, with the big drum that they bring out, the big house in Michigan, and then Madison, Wisconsin, and also research stadium, but that's a familiar place. Actually, you haven't been there since the new study- - I've not been there. No, looking forward to it. - Okay, so those are the five right there. - Easy answer for me, 'cause we've been there, and they're fans are much like Oregon fans. It's one of the toughest places to play, and that's Madison, Wisconsin. - I mean, when they get jump going, that place vibrates, and it's a great college atmosphere, and so yeah, I love Camp Randall is special. - Hey, they don't do any of these places throw things at sideline reporters, 'cause Texas Tech was not my favorite place to go and get water bottles and tortillas thrown at me for three and a half hours. - Well, you've done a game down at Arizona State recently. Okay. - No, last year was the one. - After Texas Tech, I was like that. Arizona State, I can't do it this year. - Oh, yeah, yeah. Losses just tortillas. Water bottle is a little dangerous, though. Tortillas, I can eat it tortillas. - I can say some cheese to some folks in Wisconsin and have them throw that out. - There you go. - Okay, yeah. - You can't wait for that. - I'm sure, wait for that. - Wait a year, we'll probably have some snowballs somewhere, 'cause this is gonna be cold. - That's right, mid-November, November 16th in Madison, Wisconsin. - Yeah. - I'm not built for the coldies. - Frozen, thunder. - You gonna be on that sideline wearing one of those puffers? Is that what we're gonna give 'em you? - I'm gonna look like the Michelin man on the sideline down there. Are you kidding me? - I'm gonna go find George Costanza's jacket. (laughing) - Yeah, I'm gonna look like the little brother from the Christmas story down there. - You're doing the star waddle? - Yeah, you're gonna roll me out to the sideline that I'm just gonna prop me up. I might wear the duck costume. I don't know. - That'll keep you warm. - It was. - I have two pair of long underwear and a puffer coat and it'll be a 75 degree day. (laughing) - Exactly. Historically speaking, we've gone through, go to the Big Ten, that's gonna be an awesome change and it'll be very welcome. It's been pretty crazy to think of how much more publicity Oregon, Washington, USC and UCLA have gotten just by this move, right? Everybody wanted to say the East Coast by us wasn't real. I think one thing that we have found quite clear is that it's real because you go to that conference and they're like, all right, now they're playing big boy football. Are you gonna have your eye on any of the other former Pac-12 teams that you're gonna be keeping tabs on? - Yeah, I mean, I'll kind of watch Cal, with Wilcox there and some of the guys that played for Oregon and coached at Oregon. - ECC football. - Yeah, I can't imagine that. That is mind boggling to go from the West Coast all the way to the coast, come back and play and go back, now it's just, it doesn't make a lot of sense. That's gotta change in the next two or three years. Cal, I'll be interested in watching Cal. I'm kind of curious to see really what happens with Oregon State and Washington State. I just thought that was so wrong that they did not end up in a power five conference somewhere, they deserve to be. And so for the next couple of years, I wanna watch what they do and how that all plays out. I hope that they are successful and get where they need to be and where they should be. Other than that, I don't care about anybody else. Perfect, yeah, I don't, it'd be fun to watch Arizona and Arizona State, but we don't have to play 'em. I'm glad we don't have to go to Utah anymore. - Yeah, see, and that was the one I have grown such an appreciation for Utah in their time in the back 12. - I respect them very much. - Yeah, and Kyle Whittingham seems like a guy who's a great guy who kind of does it the right way. And his program is, it is such a, it's amazing to see they went from the Mountain West to the Pac-12 and then flinched and blink. They were ready for the challenge. - I hate to play there 'cause their fans were great. And that was a tough, tough game. And I'm glad we don't have to play anymore. Maybe they'll make it in the 12 team playoff and we'll make it in the 12 team playoff. That would be correct, I hope that happens. Okay, I hope that several pre-Pac-12 teams, as well as several of the big 10 teams, end up all in the 12 team playoff, and it would be like the Pac-10 over again. The Pac-12 over again. - Do you think that that's what would get the Pac-12 finally some credit? Is it's finally gone and it's like, all right, so you got the big 12 champ in Utah. You've got you have a big 10 team in Oregon. You can get another bid from the ACC. I don't know if that's gonna be happening with Cal or Stanford this year, but you could get one, feasibly. - No, I think Oregon, USC, I think Utah, certainly. I don't know, Arizona has got a chance. - Yeah, Arizona's got a chance. So even Arizona State, yeah, it could happen. I think that would be fun. - Yeah. - That would be. - It would be awesome. All right. - You ready for this game yet? I mean. - Oh, we got Idaho this week. What do you know about the Vandals yet? - Vandals, pretty good ball club. I mean, they lost most of their offense, but most of their defense comes back. They're a good program. It's like, I'm gonna say this about everybody Oregon plays this year. Be aware of your opponent, but be more aware and concerned about your own team. Now, don't beat yourself. So if you could let Idaho beat you, or you can play your game and make them have to try to beat you, and that's gonna be a tough thing to do. But Idaho, I love playing, Idaho, I love playing Portland State. I love playing those teams and come to Oregon. - And that was, I mean, this is the hard part for these FCS schools, because Idaho is kind of the poster child for it. Coach Jack down there did an insanely good job of building up a program to be a quarter final team in the FCS playoffs a year ago. - Very quick. - And then the transfer portal opens up and their quarterback goes, and now he's starting at Oregon State in Giovanni McCoy. Their running back was 1,000 yard rusher. He is a portal, he's gonna be playing. A lot of snaps for the University of Utah. And you go, we're back at square one again, and putting in all of that work to build up to that point. - It's kind of weird as I've been looking at Idaho and doing the prep, it's like, a lot of the guys that should be back and making that one more run that we've become custom to, they've taken off and they go to another place, and it's a credit to the staff of Idaho. And also those guys for saying, I can go to the Power Five, but it takes away from the FCS experience a little bit. - Well, I think, and you gotta be aware that the reason they were good enough to go and make that step up on the portal is because he brought him in, you know? He developed, so I think he's a great recruiter. I think he's a great developer of talent. So I expect the guys that he did bring in up the portal, and the guys who were freshmen or sophomores last year are gonna be improved. So I think he is still gonna have a team that was, I'm gonna say just as good as they were last year. - Yeah, and the pride of Lake Oswego, Jack Lane. - How 'bout that? - Playing quarterback for the Vandals. - Playing, he's gonna play in Austin Stadium. - Jerry, thank you so much for the time, man. - I appreciate it. We're gonna have to do this more Wednesdays when I'm coming down here. - I'm always here to be happy to do it and live here, right? - Thrill, yeah, I live here. Sleeping bag right over there. I got a bathroom down the hall. There's no food up here. That's the only problem. - It's stale popcorn. - No food, and unfortunately, you're parked closer to dusty. (laughing) - Thanks for having me, I guess. - Yeah, thank you, Jerry. - All right, we get to hour number two. Let's get back to the NFL a little bit as roster moves, roster cuts made across the NFL some surprises that popped up. 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All the people started getting sick and throw it up all over each other. - I'm gonna get in the light, this is good fun. - This is Danny and Dusty on the Odyssey app and Portland's sports leader, 1080. (screaming) The fan. - Hour number two, Danny and Dusty with ya on this Wednesday afternoon. Thank you for being a part of our day, letting us be a part of yours. I am down in Eugene, Danny back in the studios. - You're right, you're next to me. - I am, hey, I'm gonna be hitting rush hour traffic. - You almost said I wish and then you were like, "Nah, I don't wish." - I do, I wish. I miss your musk, I miss your scent. - Mm. - Right now I got a view of their pressure washing the scoreboards right now. That's what I'm looking at. - That's gotta be so satisfying. - I bet it is. It's satisfying to watch. - Pressure washing is such a satisfying thing to do. - Okay, okay, now we're getting into it. What will hook me? Carpet washing videos. - Oh God. - Pressure washing videos. First of all, I don't believe the carpet cleaning was. Nobody has a carpet as dirty as the ones that they put on. - Please show. - No way, I am calling shenanigans on that. - I don't know. - I don't know, man. - Like it's like a flood damage or something like that. - Yeah, it's not great. - It's mesmerizing. - It's not great. I'll tell you that. Look, I subscribed to the hardwood floors specifically because I don't like carpets because they get very dirty. - Yeah, they do get very dirty. - Do not like, I have carpet in one room in my house. It is in my office and I want to rip it out. And every time I clean it, 'cause I have two little black dogs with short, wiry, black hair. And the amount of fur that comes out of that carpet, every, it gets vacuumed twice a week. And it like halfway fills, like I've got all those like cyclone vacuums where you can see all the stuff that comes out. And all of the fur that comes out of the carpet is just like, "Oh my God." And that's without kids, that's without spills, that's without all the other stuff. And I'm just like, I never want carpet in my house ever again. - Ever. I want hardwood floors for the rest of my life. I never want carpet in a house ever again. - It's cold on your feet though. - You know what? - See, that's my only thing is waking up first thing in the morning and first putting those feet down on the floor. I don't want cold hard surface. - I got the crocs. - That doesn't sound like much fun either. - I just got good fuzzy slippers. - Oh, sir, I have fuzzy crocs for home. - Are you not aware of this? - No, I'm not aware of the fuzzy crocs. - Buddy, again, let me just go ahead and remind folks. When I had my hip surgery, crocs reached out to me and they sent me a box as big as me full of crocs. - I just didn't realize fuzzy crocs was a thing. - Oh yeah, dude. - I knew they had like the cowboy boot crocs and yeah. - I will take a picture of them when I get home tonight and I will send them, I will put them in the group chat so you can see them there. They are dark blue with a gray fuzz and they are, it has to be cold. Like they are warm, it is a lot. But outside of those giant yellow ones that they did, like the crossovers with like the big stupid rubber boots and the cowboy crocs, I have every other croc in every other color size, random assortment combination you could imagine. - And the cowboy crocs you've been trying to get that? - Yes, I have been trying it. I mean, let's not act like you're disgusted by that. - I'm not disgusted by that. - You've been trying to get your hands on it. - They're limited run and they have so far been stifled. - I can't wait until you finally get them though. - Oh, I will rock them too. You know I will. - Unfortunately I do know you are going to wear them. - And put them in sport mode, baby. - Yeah. - Spurs and all. That right there, that's a good trophy to fight over. The cowboy crocs. - Yep, replace the platty with that. - We do have that, no. You know, the state of Oregon can't handle that. We can't handle having it playing for- - Can't handle style. - helpful to boot crocs. That's not the word I was going to use. That's not the word that I was going to use. People just be like, but then again, we have like an old tin bucket, we've got a spatoon. I mean, could crocs be the old tin can of modern times now? And they're just be like, why a pair of crocs? Why not a pair of crocs? - Why not? - Everybody had one, they were easily accessible. They said, you know what? This is what we're going to do is we're playing for a pair of crocs. - Look, you're on football practice fields all the time. How often do you see guys leaving the field in crocs? - Never. - Okay, and the basketball court? All the time. - All the basketball court is probably different. - All the time. - Because you always go to the locker room to take your shoes off on football, right? I mean, it's like, that is a little bit different. We have, I will say, I have had kids show up to try and lift weights and crocs when we do dudes. Hey dudes are the other one, which is a little slip-ons. Yeah, that was it. And I think that the hard part of getting the platty to go away for a pair of crocs is, I don't know, Nike may have something to say with that one. - Look, all right, fine. - Nike makes them make a platty base croc. Like have a croc like a platty face on it. - But do you remember they made a slipper shoe? That kind of looked like a, it was like, it had a sole of a shoe. - Yeah, no, I've got the slides, the air max slides. - Maybe that's what it is. - Like just like, throw like a little platypus on it. I don't know, I don't care. - We have our round of eight matchup coming up at the top of next hour for our rivalry trophies. We went all the way through the sweet 16 yesterday. We've got the round of eight today. Four will be on Thursday and then our championship edition coming up on Friday leading you up to the week one of college football. And a little bit later on in the show, we've got to get to the, what will we learn from anybody in week one of college football? - You've seen some of these games, some of these games are pretty rough, but we'll have that coming up. Let's go back to the NFL a little bit though before we get there because there is a very confusing tactic that is being used by one Gerard Mayo, first year head coach of the New England Patriots. And he mentioned this about his starting quarterback battle. - Maybe, maybe. - I'm going to talk to the individual players tomorrow. I'm going to have a team meeting tomorrow, and then I'll get it to you guys. - So is that assuming you made a decision, you do seven communicating? - Yes, we've made a decision. I'm sure they all have an opinion on who they think should be the starting quarterback, but I don't think I have to explain it to anyone else. It's my decision and look, if it doesn't work, blame me, I don't think I have to explain it to anyone else. Look, if it doesn't work, blame me, blame me. Sorry, I would say one thing. I think it's important to remember what's good for the team today may not be good for the team weeks down the line. And so I think the challenge is, you want to win every single game now, but also we're trying to build something special here in New England. So that to me was, that was a challenge. - Wow, you can hear the backup lights on that. Just, I mean, when you have to preface something with, wait, hold on, before you even make the announcement, you've done it wrong. - Well, in this is, as I heard the first half of that, I thought, oh my God, they're going to Drake May. - Then it definitely sounds like. - But then it sounded like, okay, no, wait a minute, what's good for us now? What's going to be good for us later in the year? And that's where I think he had this OS moment of, I think I just told everybody who the starting quarterback was going to be. The first half led me to believe they're going Drake May. The second half led me to believe it's still going to be Jacobi Brissette, because in the front half, why would you need to talk to each individual player if at the beginning of training camp, you said Jacobi Brissette is our starter? After a week, one of the preseason, you said Jacobi Brissette is our starter. And then after second week, you go, yeah, we got a little bit more of a competition now. You could just say it's still Jacobi, right? - Yeah, and it's not changing anybody's game plan for you. - And it doesn't, the whole idea, I like how he was like, well, it's about winning games. And then he's like, oh, I can't lie that seriously, because if I say it's about winning games, somebody's going to hold me to it's winning games this year, even though we're going to win maybe two games this year, because the whole idea is that we need to suck, because we have to be bad, so we can recruit talent. - We got a lot of holes. - And so it's just like, the drawed Mayo is getting a crash course in what it means to be a head coach in the media, and he failed every single mark today. - Wow. - I mean, look, it is what it is. Like everything that he did there was the incorrect way in the sense of, if you're going to go full Bella Checke in with like, oh, we made a decision, I'll let you guys know after I let them know. - You stop there. - Yes, stop it there. - You stop there. Don't go further, don't try to drag that out anymore. Just stop there. But then he tries to like, well, you know, and massage the messaging, it's like, no, you either need to be the hard-ass coach who doesn't give away anything, or you go full McDaniel's and go, you know, we're just kind of doing some stuff, and I'll be some cool guys with, it's like he's trying to do it both ways because he hasn't found who he is yet. - I'll give him high marks for apologizing for cutting off the reporter. How about that? Can we give him high marks for that? - There you go. - Did he do that right? - There you go. - So he did that right. - There you go. - He cut the reporter off and said, sorry. - My bad. - But let me back this truck up. - Yeah. (laughing) Again, it's not, it's not, it's not as crippling thing, but like, if you're, if your Patriots PR, you're pulling Mayo aside and going, okay, what? I'm not telling you how to do your job, but here's how to do your job. And you're either saying, we need to help you with the messaging of like, how you're gonna communicate things. - Yeah. - Or we need to find like a different style or path for you. And for those that don't know, that's part of PR's job is to help coaches kind of walk through that stuff. - You go through all those scenarios before you enter the room. - So you don't accidentally say something along the lines of we're gonna build around scoot and shaden. - Oh man. - You know, oops. It happens. - Did that happen? - Did that happen? - Did that happen? - You know. - All right. - All right. 5038646326, that is Vancouver forward tech slime. What team are we gonna learn about in week one of the college football season? They got a lot of clunkers, especially against top 25 opponents. That next on Danny Dusty. (upbeat music) We're gonna have deeper dives into week one of college football. But there are, I think it was Tom Finelli of CBS Sports tweeted out 59 FCS versus FBS games this week in college football. - That seems a bit much. - 50, nine. - I mean, come on. Like, I know everybody wants to have their work their way into the season. This is college football's answer to the Jamboree, but come on. - Yeah. - The FBS FCS stuff has got to stop unless, especially if you're in the top 60 teams, stop. Stop. It's the whole like, oh, they came down like, New Mexico state, go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead and schedule all the FCS opponents. I mean, they paid Montana state to come down there. I think they paid them $250,000, $300,000 to come down there and kick the crap out of them. - Got that but beat. - So like that, I mean, that's fine. But, and this isn't like a shot at Oregon playing Idaho. It's just in general, because these have been scheduled out for a while. But if you're-- - Well, no, I think you're right though in that, first of all, these are big money games, right? Funds, athletic departments and those are necessary. Would you rather we get them all out of the way week one or scatter them throughout the season? - Week one, I don't want to see Alabama or Georgia playing Chattanooga, Northwestern community college in November. Because the week nine, they always seem to have like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what the hell is this? And it's like, it's like a bi-week for them that they just happen to have right before they play Tennessee. And it's like-- - Nobody got time for that? - No, no. - No. - We don't want to go down this road. No, but we do have some actually intriguing matchups that I think we will learn a lot about where teams are at and where teams stand. I mean, down the top 25, we actually have a few compelling games, which is good for college football and it's good for the sport that you have these sorts of matchups, like Clemson at Georgia. I think Georgia mops the floor with Clemson, but I think we're going to learn a lot about what Clemson is week one of this season, going through it their way with recruiting only high school kids, not hitting the portal at all, zero incoming transfers out of the transfer portal. The only FBS school outside of the service academies to do that. - Which, again, is weird and I think we're rightfully critical of DABO because it's so against the grain of the rest of the entire sports world, or I should say the college football world in that regard. And you know what, maybe all of us have to end up eating the humble pie and DABO is going to go, look, I'm going to zig when everybody else zags and it's not necessarily saying true to his word 'cause remember, if somebody got paid, he was going to be out of college football and yet he's still here. But this is his compromise and he does recruit the guys that he develops over four years and the right kind of player comes to him. I don't think that there's room for that in the top 60 programs in college football going forward. It might carry on and linger for a little bit because DABO, regardless of how corny or cheesy or how much you don't like him or whatever you say, he still has two national titles. - Yes, he does. - He still has multiple high, high, high level draft picks and talents in the NFL. He has developed guys, he has landed top end recruits, he has taken lesser known recruits and turned them into prolific stars. That has cache regardless of, oh, they haven't done it in the last two years. You know what I mean? I think you're right. I think it is going to be interesting and it's going to be interesting and more than just the football but the dynamics at play when you're talking about how a team is built. - I'll tell you another one that I'm really interested in is Virginia hosting Penn State. I applaud Penn State for doing this. Go on the road, play a power conference school and it doesn't have to be a blue blood but go be uncomfortable playing somewhere else. Right? Because this game could be a lot closer than we think. I'll go back to last year Oregon at Texas Tech, right? You go into a hostile environment. It's an equalizer, man. And you have teams that are far better at home than they are on the road. And Texas Tech is one of those teams. So is West Virginia. West Virginia at home is a completely different team than when they leave Morgantown. And I think we may see Penn State challenged out of the gate in this one. And especially when you have a quarterback like Drew Aller who's worked through some of his warts, they're only eight point favorites. Go on to Morgantown. Number eight team in the country against an unranked opponent. - Yeah, Morgantown gets drunk though. - Yeah. - And it's gonna get weird and it's gonna get sideways. And you know. - It's a big noon kick though. They saved Penn State. - Oh, they didn't put it at night. Okay. - Yeah. So I mean, that will be noon Eastern time. If that would have been at night. - I would have taken West Virginia in the points. - Good night, Charlie. - Legitimately, I would have taken West Virginia in the points. I may have looked like a fool the next day, but I looking at that, like if you look at all of the matchups this weekend of outside of Clemson, Georgia, where there's good teams playing, that's the one where I went. That could get spicy. Miami, Florida, just because of the mutual hatred. - For mutual, if we, they are playing for the Seminole Canoe, we know that, right? - Indeed. They play for the Seminole Canoe. - I'm gonna be looking up and down the sideline for the Canoe. - And it's like, if they actually bring it out there, like I wanna see David Goggins yelling, who's gonna row the boats? - Well, I think that we may have a situation where whichever coach loses that week one matchup is instantly a hot seat. - Thrown in the boat and thrown into the water for the alligators? - I mean, if Billy Napier gets run out of the building. - Which is very honest to me. - At home. - At home. If that happens, they may just viking funeral him. Just send that boat out there and start bowing arrows on fire, shooting it at that thing. - I wouldn't hate to see it. - I know you wouldn't, but I mean, he'd die. And then we have Notre Dame A&M. Notre Dame going on the road to Texas A&M. Is this Texas A&M's year? - No, and it's not Notre Dame's year either. I can't remember who it was, but they basically said, if Notre Dame wins this game, just pencil them in for the college football playoff, which is gross. It's gross. So you know what? Screw it. - Really? - What is it, gig 'em? - You're gonna go gig 'em Aggies already. - Screw it. - Notre Dame's week schedule. Get them out of here. Get them out of here. I don't, I don't, I want, every op, I mean, I'm obviously, I hate Notre Dame, but beyond that, I'm so sick and tired of this. Like, ah, you know, it's, you've got, every other team has got to crawl through the mile of crap to get to the college football playoff. Meanwhile, Notre Dame's like, they step in a little something, go, ew. And then they end up in the college football playoff. So yeah, give me A&M. - To the texture on the Vancouver Four text on that text and when's the last time West Virginia beat A&M, or Penn State, 1988, October 29th, 1988. - Yeah. - West Virginia won 51 to 30, should be noted. They've only played five times since then. They played in 89, 90, 91, 92, and then did not play until last year when the Mountaineers went to state college and lost 38 to 15. So it's been a really long time since they've played each other consistently. But 1988, Penn State's won five in a row in that series. Penn State should beat them and beat them handily, but I do believe as we're talking about this, right, the question is, which teams are we gonna learn about? I think we can learn something about Penn State early in the season as to where they are at as a legitimate contender, not just in the Big Ten for the college football playoff. And is this year that James Franklin and company get over that hump. They've had been really good though at beating good teams, but not the great ones. And that's been their bugaboo. West Virginia is not a great team. But I think from a standpoint of where does their depth line up? How are they at every level, both offensively and defensively in the line at the quarterback, running back position, and especially wide receiver. I think what you look at though with Penn State, it's quarterback. How comfortable does Drew Aller look back there? And that will make a lot of people a lot more confident or start selling their stock on Penn State. - Or they have another Penn State quarterback where you're like, "Oh, he's a high profile or crude." And then it's not gonna go down that well. - I think another one that we have speaking of high caliber recruits and saying it doesn't end very well. I think your USC Trojans, we're gonna learn a lot about on Sunday when they take on LSU in Las Vegas. - I don't know how this is only four points. I don't, I don't. I don't know how this is only a four point spread. That does not, does not compute. - I mean, I do because both of their defenses were terrible last year. - Yeah, but there's a sliding scale of terrible. LSU Terrible Defense versus USC Terrible Defense last year was it's egregious. And they've talked about the secondary being good and the linebacker and core being veteran experience. It's great, it's like, it's still that defensive front for USC is untested. And you've got Baroque's energy. You've got Anthony Lucas, but beyond that, you're like, "Ah, okay." And then offensively, there's not a ton of experience on the offensive line outside of Monheim who is moving over from guard to center. You've got talent, I think, across the offensive line, but wildly untested, doesn't have a lot of playing time together. Miller Moss is going to know the system. The weapons on the outsider are great when you're talking about a Zack Brancher, a Mackay Lemon. But beyond that, the running back room is deep, but not necessarily as explosive as it's been in the past. And I just, I look at that team and I'm sitting here in a fight on hat and I'm still saying if they win nine games this year, it'll be a surprise. All right, I have crunched the numbers on this. 2023, LSU, out of the 14 team Southeastern Conference, finished 13th in scoring, 13th in total defense, 13th in rush defense, 13th in pass defense. LSU was, dude, and the only team worse than them in all those categories, was Vanderbilt. Oh, hey. So, I mean, like, you're right about the sliding scale of not good defense, but we can also look at it and say, "Brada, this LSU team was 108th in the country in total defense last year. They gave up 416 yards per game. USC was 119th at 432 yards per game. So, yeah, I mean, just by not missing as many tackles. - That alone-- - That C should be better. - That alone, I see, just at USC Oregon, three missed tackles led to three touchdowns. - Yeah. - Three missed tackles led to three touchdowns. That's how egregious it was there. And then against Utah, I think it was five missed tackles led to scores. And it was just like, you gotta be kidding me. It just, it was some of the worst high level football tackle and I'd ever seen last year. And I just, I don't know how you, I don't know how necessarily coaching alone overhauls that without completely flipping over the roster, which they haven't really done defensively. - I got two more teams that I think we're gonna learn something about this week. And it's both in a really bad way. - Oh. - Yeah. - Okay. - If North Dakota State beats Colorado. - Which, yeah. - The Dion experience, experiment and experience can be called a failure. Like if you lose to North Dakota State and this is year two of being, you know, the portal king and going into the portal, I mean, tomorrow they play five o'clock, all eyes are gonna be on them. Colorado's only a 10 point favorite against an FCS team. If they lose that game, yep, we're done. But if they win it. - It is crazy. We have Dusty. - Yeah. - We have college football tomorrow. We have-- - Yeah, college football. - We have ranked college football teams playing tomorrow. - Yeah, the great Kansas Jayhawks are 45 point favorites over Lindenwood. As are the 12th ranked Utah youth. - And the number 24 NC State, 32 and a half point favorites over Western Carolina. - They play tomorrow? - Yeah. - All right. - Four o'clock. - Let's go. What do you mean that work? - But if Colorado wins in any way, even if it's ugly, I don't think we learn a whole heck of a lot about them. - No, no. - But if they lose, it's a big indicator. The other one for me is Florida State hosting Boston College. After what happened in Dublin, if they continue to play as atrociously and they don't trust DJ and DJ doesn't trust himself to run the ball or push the ball down the field, it gets a big, big, big problem. - I literally said that to somebody last night, what happens if Florida State loses to Boston College? 'Cause that'd be the end of them. Like that would be the end of them this year because you lose one game in the ACC fine. You lose another game in the ACC and you start out 0 and 2 against that. Ugh, side note, mild squirrel moment. Did you know that there's a central Connecticut? - I knew that there had to, oh no, not a university. I knew there had to be like a central portion of the state of Connecticut. - Yeah, the central Michigan is playing central Connecticut. - Yeah, that. - In their division one? - I guess. - Well, I mean, it sounds like a community college. - That's what I thought too, but yeah, I just was scrolling through and I was like, central Connecticut state university blue doubles. - Blue doubles, it's a complete and total rip off of Duke's logo. I mean, copy paste. - Yeah, incredible. - It's incredible. - No, you know what they did? They put it through like the SB Nation logo generator and just kind of fancied it up a little. - Just the tweak the angles just enough. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah. - All right, yeah, they are an FCS opponent. They play at a root stadium. Please tell me that's named after Jack a root. - Oh. - They play at a root stadium. They've been playing football for 89 years. - Which you would have got me on that trivia question. 100%. - I do, I cannot tell you though. - Central Connecticut sounds like blue mountain state. Like it was made up. - It's very generic too. It's very generic. - Also, can you have central in a state that small? - Yeah, yeah. - It's super weird. I feel like you can only have an orth in the south. - They've been a division one program for 31 years. - How is that possible? - Well, I bet they haven't been very good. - Probably not. I have a worst day on the web that will also make you ponder. How is that possible? 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(upbeat music) - Got a good one today. - Oh. - It's local. - All right, oh, oh, oh, oh. - I saw this headline and I just, my jaw just got further and further and further to the ground, the more I read. - Okay. - Here's the headline from the Oregon, illegal sale of performance-enhancing drugs for cockfighting rooster leads to prosecution of Oregon man. - Come again, say that for me one more time. - Illegal sale of performance-enhancing drugs for cockfighting roosters leads to prosecution of Oregon man. - All right, what are we, what are we, can I guess the region of Oregon? You said just an Oregon man or a Portland man. - Oregon. - This seems very climate-falls. - You're, you're, same idea, but different region. - Oh, Estacada? - Independence. - Oh, oh, yeah, all right. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is all making sense now. Yeah, all right. - Are we picking it up now? Okay. - Yeah, all right. - Okay. - All right. Fernando Israel Urudia Archay, a 45 year old man of independence, is going to serve three years before probation. It's ordered to pay a $5,000 fine after pleading guilty to a misdemeanor charge of interstate receipt and sale of this branded drugs. He illegally imported and resold more than $200,000 worth of PEDs for cock fighting roosters across the United States. - Wow. - He imported the drugs through his business called VIP game foul supplies from 2019 to 2022. - Maybe not name your business like the stereotypical front business name. - Yes, Balco for roosters. - Yeah, that's right, that's right. - It's like, I see the name of that company. - I'm like, yeah, I'm going to look into that. - Poor little Jerry Seinfeld never had a chance. I'm looking at this and I'm going as like, if I'm going to co-brand this, I'm going to go jacked Ramses and also I'm going to have jacked roosters as also a part of my cock fighting schemes. - That's right. - This is what I had to do to get relatively inexpensive PEDs. I'll do it. - I mean, that's like a gym that gets popped for selling PEDs to the people that go there and it's called like the roid house. - Yeah, you're like, nah, nah. I didn't see that one coming. We had no idea that this was going on. - Get jacked via stacks. It's like, yeah, yeah, no, we get it. Through the company, he sold the drugs that promised to increase, this is the absolute heater of the article. He sold drugs that promised to increase a roosters energy and muscle building, making a fighting cock 10 times stronger. - Boy, you weren't lying. - You weren't lying. - You were not lying. - You were not lying. - Help with their digestive system and make their hair shiny and flawless. - Yeah, yeah. Like this one, it's a great text on the Vancouver 4 text line. Like I'm just sad to see drugs infest the game of murdering roosters, you know? - Also, what's happened to the morality of killing animals for money? It's like, well, I mean, it's the animals killing animals. - This is the least surprising story from cock fighting. - What's a more egregious crime, sin, twisted thing in the animal fighting world, particularly cock fighting? Giving them PEDs and turning them into little feathered hairy, berry bonzes. - Hairy bonzes? - Feathery bonzes? - I don't know, I'll workshop for one minute. - Feathery bonzes, yeah. - Or giving them the metal spur. (snaps) - Boy, I think it's the spur. - Right? - 'Cause that's just to inflict the injury, yeah. - The most dangerous. - Yeah, they're doing good about that, at all. But, I mean, fighting anything to the death, barbaric, but I think we've evolved past that as society. But the fact that you said $200,000? - Yeah, this guy's obviously making money off of it. - Yeah, the tune of more than $200K. - Yes, and here's the thing, and this does not make it better, and I don't agree with it at all. But, outside of the US, not just cock fighting, but animal fighting is still not even like, on the fringes, it's wildly accepted. - Yeah, yeah, like in the, like the Caribbean islands. - Caribbean islands, all over South America, all over Southeast Asia. Didn't see a ton of it in the Middle East. - Huh. - Yeah, I mean, well, that's not totally true. We did it with bugs. We threw scorpions and camel spiders and boxes and watched them fight, and we may or may not have been on it. - Danny, you're not supposed to say we. - I mean, it was the collective we. - Of bugs? - Well, look, if there's anything from the animal kingdom we want to let fight to the death. Let's, that's scorpions and camel spiders. - Yeah, that's just fine. - Yeah, anything that was like, that was harmful to us, we threw in boxes and we let you fight. - Yeah. - I'm not gonna put myself in your shoes in that situation because I've never been in them. - Speedy enough. - I've never been that bored. - I had somebody put scorpions in my shoes. - Oh, no. - Yeah, I kind of deserved it. I may or may not have put a dead camel spider on his chest while he was sleeping. - What? - What? - Again, this is that cheeky fun that you have is, that's the Danny cheeky fun. - It's a jet camel spider, that's the size of a dinner plate on your chest while you sleep. - So you wake up and you gotta rack the phobia in your face. - Scorpion in your shoes. - I got a snake in my boots, except for those scorpions. They also found 3,000. - Speaking of movies, you can only watch once. - All right. - Good Lord. - 3,000 images in post related animal fighting paraphernale is also found on the social media accounts. He accepted more than $213,000 in painters in PayPal, Cash App, and so-- - So wait, he was posting it on his social media? - Yeah. This guy deserves to be roasted by Tonya Harding on world's dumbest criminals. At this point, it's like, okay, look what I'm doing. - The-- - What an idiot. - Hey everyone, come and see how dumb I look. - Well here, number one, he said, none of the drugs were have been approved by the FDA. Like is the FDA out here approving cop fighting serums? - This guy's the equivalent of like getting on a radio show and like admitting to several crimes. - Oh. (laughing) But it was purchased from the Philippines and other foreign countries according to a sentencing memo. And I think the statute of limitations is out of mind. So yeah, that's where we got all our steroids from. - Yeah. - We got Philippines and actually England, weirdly enough. In the early 2000s, we got our steroids. - Yeah, it was called British Dragon. - Wait, you got your steroids from-- - From England? - Oh. - Yeah, there was a supplier back in the day you could get your, and it just felt like less shady because it was coming from a first world country. - Yeah, this is on the up and up. - Yeah, right? That was the way we justified it back. - Yeah, it was just totally on the up and up. - We got it from England and we got it from the Philippines, which is probably funny because the people we're buying them from in England was probably, we're probably getting them from the Philippines. - Yeah, yeah, I think you're 100% correct. I'm pretty sure that's how that went. This does have a sad note beyond the whole animal death thing at the end. - Oh, no way. - During this period, the man's wife was battling bone cancer, which required significant financial support. He has since accepted responsibility, has no criminal history and has fully cooperated with investigators. - Okay, so-- - So he was doing illegal cop fighting serums to pay for his wife's bone cancer treatment. - Oh, great, so we got a Walter White now. - Okay, here's my thing. It may be like, well, he didn't hurt anybody. - He didn't hurt anybody, but he was hurting animals. - Well, he wasn't, he was just, you know-- - He was the middle man. - Yeah, you know? - See, but I don't like that where it's like, you have these arms dealers who are like, hey, I didn't pull the trigger. - Well, where do we draw the line? Do we draw, like, it's like, what's that, is it family guy? Or no, it's American dad when they ban trans fats, and they have to smuggle trans fats back into the city. Like, do we get mad at the middle man who's out there just slinging trans fats now? Like, because it leads to harmful clogged arteries. - Yeah, that's it. - You know what I mean? - You know, but do we bag on the guys out there doing the distribution for the alcohol, because DUIs? - Yeah, okay, but-- - See, I'm just saying, you know what? Maybe he thought he was selling-- - But, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, the guy who is distributing is like a beer salesman or whatever. He's not doing it with like, I know the intention of people are gonna be, they're gonna get loaded by the wheel. - It's to use it safely and recreationally. - Well, maybe they want some recreationally, like, super jacked roosters. - Okay, I mean-- - Maybe they want really, maybe they're show roosters, and they want them to come up like, they don't get tested, and they just show-- - One thing that-- - Super jacked and shiny. - One thing we learned about the Chinese swimming team is that the cattle in China is loaded with enough wood to trigger a positive test. - See? - They're just eating it. - Yeah! - They're not fighting them. - He was getting this from overseas and sending it back to China because they were loading it into their chicken. They're like, hey, the guys, they're on to the beef. We need to go to the chicken now. - Yeah, no, I-- - They're testing the beef. - I think I'm still out on this. I think I'm still out on all of it. - Would you eat PED chicken if you-- - I feel like I have. - I feel like we all have. - What if it like, you could get like, mild PED benefits from eating PED chicken? Would you do it? - See, your hesitating, mind's an immediate yes. - Yeah, I mean, I don't know what the mild benefits are. Like, okay, are my joints and ligaments all going to still be like frail rubber bands and snap at any moment? Or am I just getting the mild, I'm getting jacked and have an incredibly large appetite? Because if it's the latter, I'll take it. - I'm just one to look good feel good, kind of deal, you know? - Yeah, sure. - Something, yeah, I do that. - I really want some shiny and flawless hair. - Yeah, that's the thing that they say about like the legal eye, this, I guess it's not micro dosing, but the lower dosages of HGH, right? That's the whole thing surrounding HGHs. That is, in low dose, it has actually incredible benefits for you. - So. - Yes, in low doses. - Yeah, just not ones that make your head look like a watermelon on a toothpick. - I mean, you know, just make sure you, gotta work your shoulders. - Okay, make your traps big enough to make your head look small, bro. - Proportions, they matter, go on. - Nobody knows that you have a size eight and a half head anymore 'cause your traps are huge, bro. - See, that's how it works. All right, come up next. Rust through this one on the docket for us and it's, it's something. Dion, you're gonna have to stop, man. Colorado, what are you doing? We'll get to that in the market maybe around Danny Dustin, he's attending the fan. (screaming) Quick update on Central Connecticut State, looking at their alumni. They had a Mr. Universe contestant and speaking of sports, Mr. Jean Boy. Jean Boy went to Central Connecticut State. - Aw, get out of town. - Yeah, James Vincent Michael O'Brien. That's his whole name if you didn't know. - Oh, that's how he got to jump, boy. - Mm-hmm. - Huh? - It's a long name. - He'll learn something new every day. - But yeah, I was looking at their alumni and I was like, wow. - It's tough to trust people with two middle names. - That's a long name. - I mean, I realized, you know, there's a very famous former Portland person with two middle names. They mean alert. - Oh, yeah, double, yeah. - Just saying, but yeah. - Typically, like the double middle name people are a little, you know, (chuckles) - I feel it's more the... - I feel if it's like Wayne or Lee. - Yeah, it's the multiple first names. - Yeah, that's always a serial killer thing. - It's always the multiple first names. Like when their last name is a first name, too. Like it's always a little... - Millie Ray Wayne. - Yeah, yeah, whoa. If there's a Wayne, a Lee. What's another last name that pops in there where you're like, Curtis? - Well, I can ever think about when I heard the name Curtis is his own Cheech and John just, yeah. Yeah, I know Curtis, man. - I'm trying to think of, there's any other first names that are last names that you could kind of throw in there. Stewart, Stewart's another one, I think. Any time you can have like, your whole name could be first names, your first middle and last name could be first name. I just... - That's serial killer. - I don't want to throw you in a wood chipper. - Whoa. - Just staying, you know? - Danny Wayne Meringue. - Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. See the last name, that's how you know. Meringue will never, never, ever, ever get there. It's the time hiding in plain sight. - You know, the guy that always seemed very untrustworthy to me, and this is totally unfair, just because of his name, was Braun. Snettaker, Brandt, Newell, Snettaker. Professional golfer, a guy that just like sounds like he was born in a country club and just raised there. - Yes, 100%. - And he went to the Harding Academy, and then Vanderbilt. - Yeah, both those schools. Vanderbilt, I don't think it gets its necessary due with how pretentious it is because it's in the SEC. - Yeah. - It is an uppity school. - But he won last night the Payne Stewart Award. He was honored with the Payne Stewart Award. And Payne Stewart, a phenomenal human being, and a phenomenal golfer. And I was watching like some of the coverage on the golf channel. I was making dinner, the TV turned on, couldn't find the remote. Look, that's why I was on the golf channel. I don't know how it got to the golf channel. - Dirt got in your house. - Dirt, how I've cheating on the dirt? No, kids were watching the TV and you know how the remotes happened. They just get, but numbers get punched. It's a mess. But I ended up learning about brand Snettaker. Awesome guy, awesome guy. Thought he was like this pretentious D bag this whole time. It turns out, great dude. Hand up, I was wrong. Nah, we'll let that one go. - All right. May just, that name sounds like Country Club. He's the bad guy from the Goonies, even though I do understand Brandt was the brother. I get that, but I just associated that always with, you know, the Astoria Country Club guy, not actual Brandt. - Hey Troy, I just want to say, shout out to everybody on the Vancouver four text line. I appreciate you. I can't read any of your texts on air, but I appreciate you. Just want to salute all the folks that are on there right now. - There was a lot of aggressive, a lot of aggressive texts. - It was funny, don't get me wrong. Like I laughed, I just wanted to let you know. I'm not ignoring you. Dusty's not ignoring you. We just, we don't want to get fined. - Yeah, absolutely. - We will get to the Deon Sanders absolute mess of a story because it's too stupid not to talk about, at least for like 30 seconds. But come up next, we have our Elite Eight in the college football rivalry trophy edition that we will dive into immediately before we get into the weekend where we will crown our college football rivalry trophy of what are coming up next year in our number three in Danny Dusty to do the fan. - When you think about businesses that are selling through the roof like aloe, all birds or skims, sure, you think about a great product, a cool brand and brilliant marketing. But an often overlooked secret is actually the businesses behind the business making selling and for shoppers buying, simple. For millions of businesses, that business is Shopify. Nobody just selling better than Shopify. 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Jeff Russ is in the producer booth and Dusty Era is down in Eugene at Aunson Stadium where he is doing his prep and show down there as part of his sideline duties. - Yeah, they set me up with a nice little studio here connected to our radio booth that we broadcast games from every Saturday from Aunson Stadium and getting the chance to come down, take in practice. Do a couple pregame interviews and talk to some of the players and coaches every week before the games. It's pretty cool and they're putting the final touches on Aunson Stadium before they fill it up on Saturday afternoon against Idaho. They're done pressure washing the scoreboards. They sound replacing some lights up top. They've got it all set up, man. Yeah. - How big is that pressure washer? - It was pretty big. It was pretty big. I assume they were up there for a while before I got started up here, but they got this thing done. It looks snazzy. They have new big 10 benches now that have the cooler and the heater built into them with little shades over the top. It's nice. It's a different look here at Aunson. - Sounds awful bougie for the big 10. - I know, I know, but they need them though because it gets freezing in most of the cities that they're playing. - I guess, I wonder if they have a cooling bench for USC and UCLA? - Yeah, well, the Ducks one has cooling. It has cooling on it. I don't know if they have, I can't really tell to see if they have a little footy spots for the feet, but these are the big things that are new in the big 10. - 'Cause they'll burn your butt. - And burn your butt. - All right. - Those things are game changers when it's cold. - Oh yeah, no, 100%. I am there with you. The simple things in life where you just kind of go, oh, you can do this? That's pretty cool. It's come a long way. Look, the coddling of college athletes, professional athletes, as it were, it's like, those are the creature comforts where it's like, I'm okay with this. This is allowed because it's quite nice. There's no reason to go, oh, you're less of a man for doing this. Look at that, I don't know, let's... - I mean, unless you're a lineman wearing sleeves. Can we agree, linemen don't wear sleeves. - There was a lineman, was gone with Taylor the one, and he was a retired lineman. I can't remember who it was, but he was like, they gave him crap about it, and he goes, here's the thing. I endured it 'cause I think he said he played in Buffalo, and he goes, no matter what, I wore the sleeves because I was gonna be sleeves guy. So I was down in Tampa Bay, 87 degrees, and I was wearing sleeves. - Can't do that. - And he goes, it had nothing to do with the weather. It had everything to do with when I realized I got to the NFL that it was, I think I was starting off as a lineman. He's like, my arms just did not match up to everybody else's, so I had to hide them. I had to hide them. - Oh, I can't get on board with that. I can't get on board with that. I gotta get some curls in them, bro. - Yeah, get some curls for the girls. - I thought that was a pretty honest answer of why. And because of that, I think it's going to lead perfectly into some audio that I have from Coach McVey of the Rams. I don't know if you've heard this yet. It is absolutely crazy. We'll get to that later in the show. But first, we have to get to our College Wall rivalry trophy edition showdown as we are getting now into the elite eight. After our top 16 were narrowed down to eight yesterday, our winners from yesterday, which I have so many bones to pick, but in particular, I'm disgusted with you, Oregon. The little brown jug has fallen to the planning. - Wow, that is an upset. That is an upset of galactic proportions. - The little brown jug is one of the best roads in College Wall. - Location bias. Location bias, 100%. - Disgusting. Disgusting. In a very, very, very, very close race, the Jules Shalalee beats out the beehive boot by a singular vote. Uno vote. - Whoa. - I thought the beehive boot would actually win, but the Jules Shalalee, and I did not vote. - Ah. - The next match up, the Seminole War canoe sinks. - It's about time. - It has gone down, has fallen to the saddle. One piece of the cowboy hardware has made it. No golden hat, no shiny spurs, but the saddle of TCU, Texas Tech, marches on. Paul Bunyan, a Michigan State against the golden cannon of Central and Western Michigan. Paul Bunyan in a landslide. The little tiny golden cannon, dusty rule on little cannons falls perfectly flat. - Perfect, good. The landslide vote is the only proper way for that little cannon to go down. - In another near landslide, 60-40, the Heartland Trophy of Iowa, Wisconsin, takes on the milk can trophy of Boise State Fresno State. Heartland Trophy moves on the anatomically correct bowl. - Hey. - Pushes past the milk can. Remember, you cannot milk a bowl, and if you can, don't. - Don't ever do that. - In what, I think is a bit more of a landslide. - I had no idea you could milk a cat. - Oh yeah, you can milk anything with nipples. - I have nipples, Greg. Could you milk me? - I would pay to see somebody try to milk Robert De Niro. Actual money, I would pay for that. 'Cause it would be a horrible, horrible thing. Speaking of horrible things, the Floyd of Rosedale, Iowa, Minnesota, crushes the land of Lincoln. The pig in a blanket, crushes the top hat, 64-36. - There we go. - Did not see that coming. - That feels right though, it feels right. - It's tough. Our next match up, the Fremont Cannon, the full-size cannon taking on the Chelele of Notre Dame Purdue, 78-22 Fremont Cannon, the big cannon marches on. And in the silver spade of Utah, New Mexico State against the Ram Falcon, of Air Force Colorado State. Ram Falcon moves on. - Hey, look at that. - I'm okay with that. I'm okay. - It's a good match. - Those are two great match-ups. - So our final match-ups in the Elite Eight, the Ram Falcon will take on the Fremont Cannon, the Floyd of Rosedale, and Iowa Trophy will take on the Heartland Trophy also, and Iowa Trophy. - Iowa does have trophies really well. - I think they do the trophies the best. The Paul Bunyan in Michigan, Michigan State will take on the saddle of TCU, Texas Tech, and the Jules Chelele will take on the pladdy. I think we know how that's gonna go. - I mean, this point, it should beat the Jules Chelele 'cause the Jules Chelele should not be in right now. - It should be, if we're being honest. - The platties should not be in, but neither should the pladdy. The platties should have been out in the first round. - They should have, they should have both lost you. - It's seeding, seeding, it's how it goes. So those are your match-ups for the Elite Eight. We will wrap up with our final on Friday. We'll have our final for tomorrow, and then we will have our top two for Friday going into the weekend. Our reminder, College Football starts tomorrow. Done, done, done, done. All right. I teased this earlier, we need to get to this next because it's just so unimaginably dumb and leads into the ridiculousness that has just continued to surround Dion Sanders and Colorado coming up here next on Danny Dusty, Danny the fan. (upbeat music) Well, Dusty, this should sound all too familiar to you. It's actually kinda fitting that you're sitting in a press booth right now as we're talking about a potential Spygate scandal that Dion Sanders in the Colorado buffaloes decided to bring to the Pac-12 but have since backed down against the Oregon Ducks after alleging that Oregon accessed its private football data last season ahead of their game against each other. - Well, it's so bizarre, this story. So basically what they alleged at the time was that their data was from catapult which is player tracking data had been accessed by an outside source, okay? Now, the video provider catapult said to front office sports, we conducted a thorough investigation into reports of an unauthorized access to Colorado's football video footage last season. We can confirm that the security of our systems was not compromised during the investigation. Our systems are secured with robust encryption along with multiple layers of protection. We encourage all customers to adhere to strong security protocols including maintaining unique logins and passwords for each authorized user enabling two step authentication restricting access to designated devices to prevent unauthorized access. Colorado, I guess, alleged this. Catapult said, yeah, nothing weird happened. And then they backed off and when the Pac-12 reached out to them because they were like, okay, no, this is serious. Colorado's like, yeah, no, we're good. - Yeah, and there was even a lot of the FBI getting involved because this is a kind of data breach, it's a problem. And this is a thing that when you're talking about like second spectrum with the NBA, the tracking data and the same thing with synergy. One of the problems in the early days of the lead up to this was that these companies had issues with the teams being willing to participate because they thought if they shared their data with these companies, the companies would then be vulnerable to breach or that they would have some nefarious actor that would take their data and give it to another team because everybody's working within the same system then everybody's in the same ecosystem and everybody's protected. It's kind of like a mutually assured destruction situation which the worst thing that came out of this was the Toronto Raptors and New York Knicks that are currently embroiled in a lawsuit where a former Knicks employee stole air quotes tracking data which is available via the website that the Raptors have access to. So that part of it's a little weird but Catapult's kind of in the same vein because for those who don't know it, that's like if you ever see guys walking around and what look like sports bras with like a weird thing in the back, that's what that is. It's a tracking system that when you see so-and-so player got up to 21.76 miles per hour. That's how they're able to do that. They're not just like calculating how long it took them to cover how much ground with a stopwatch. They actually have the tracking data that tells them because they have geospatial tracking data built into these guys with these sports bras. - I think it's pretty telling that when front office sports reached out to Colorado for comment and for the freedom of information, X stuff, that Colorado hasn't gotten back to them. And when they asked for a response from the Colorado athletic department, they didn't respond, but Oregon did and they said, "I've left Oregon's response." We're unaware of any information that provides any credibility of this claim and see no reason to comment further. - Yeah, in other words- - This sounds like gig bent. Remember when Dion said, "No excuses." Like, yeah, we got a whooping today, I think is what he called it. - Yeah. - And then- - Then he had an excuses. - And then they're like, "Hey, we need to find an excuse "real quick for this." - It's such a weird, it's such a weird that this almost feels like, "Hey, remember how much leeway that teams in the Big Ten "got because of Connor Stallions? "Maybe we can gin up our own controversy here "with like Oregon, they have so much money "that they have people breaking into encrypted databases "to get information." Which I'm about to say is gonna just be sell out of pocket. They should try? Like, every team should try? Like, everyone should try to be out of pocket here. That's right, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. - Yeah. - Like that's like, but also on like, unless you're, again, like Connor Stallions being on the sideline and getting literal calls from teams, what are they gonna find out from your catapult data? That your wide receiver gets gassed in the third quarter? Like, they can, you know what I mean? - Yeah, I don't think- - I don't think there was much that they would have garnered from the 42 to six game. - You know, well, that's actually why. They knew that if they got somebody on the edge that mathematically, that corner could not, in his run fit, keep up with the running back. That's how they knew. - I think film would have told them that too. - But that's the thing about this. Like, if you're going to make, even to make this claim, which means somebody had, like, there had to have been something that, like, I would imagine the genesis of this when they watch film the next day, somebody had a wild spur up their butt and they said, there's no way they could have known what we were gonna do right here in this down, this distance, in this situation, unless they got into our system. And then the conspiracy theory started going. - Because they were three and all, they were feeling really good about themselves. And they just realized literally every other team with the exception of Arizona State did exactly what Oregon did to them, right? I mean, it was one in eight in conference play after a three and a start. And that may have been it right there, is that you are looking for answers when you get a humbling like that. But I think that the larger conversation about Dion is that what we've been talking about all off season is that he says one thing publicly and then something else is happening behind the scenes, right? - It's always looking for an excuse or finding a reasoning or an answer that just doesn't add up to everybody else, right? Whether it's the players that say, we were promised one thing, got another once we showed up on campus when we came in through the transfer portal through the recruitment process, or something like this where no excuses, we got a whooping, hey, let's file this grievance with the Pac-12 and then, oh, by the way, we realized there was nothing there and then we just went dark on all of the answers that the Pac-12 or Catapult were looking for. So then Catapult has to come out and defend themselves about it. - Honestly, if Oregon was gonna steal some Catapult data, they should steal Washington's. (laughing) I don't think you need Colorado's. Like that's the part of this where you're just like, if Oregon was going to do this. - It's ridiculous, man. - Colorado of all teams to do this against? - Yeah. - Use it against Washington, use it against Georgia, use it against USC, like use it against Ohio State. Colorado, what are we doing? Like that's, thank you for our text line. Maybe Deon should change his password from prime time one dollar bill. Very close, it's $21 bill. - $21 bill, yeah. - That's what it is. We all know that. - Or password 21. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Prime, prime. - Prime, 21. - Password, prime. There's maybe 10 things that I could try and I bet you that like one of them would work. How much do you wanna bet prime is in his passwords? - I have every single one of them. - There's not a chance of that. - 200, $200 billion. - I can tell you, it's not in his passwords. Shiloh. - Wow, dang. (laughing) - Hey, man, I'm not the one-- - Child ranking. - I'm not the one who ranks my children. Come on now. - Yeah, his own kid came in dead last. - I mean, that's tough. That's an absolutely tough, tough, tough place to be. I just thought this entire thing with, Colorado just cannot find their way out of this. In heaven forbid, the again that they lose the North Dakota state. Because if they do, they're not gonna be their film that anybody's worried about hacking. 'Cause what, you're gonna accuse Oregon who has all the resources in the world of hacking you. What is North Dakota state doing? Are they setting up a spy gate? Like are they smuggling? Who was it? Was it Mike Leach that did the wrong playbook? - Yeah, left a fake call sheet on the bench for the Red River rivalry when he was at Oklahoma in Texas, went out there and they thought they had all their hand signals. They thought they had all of their plays and what they were gonna do. And it turns out Mike Leach given the old whoopty-doo and ended up scoring a boatload of points against Texas. - I love getting a good old scyop. Me? Like I would give Colorado some a pass here if it wasn't Colorado for a nice little scyop. But I mean, come on, man. But this is like, Arkansas's defensive coordinator went down this road last week where he was asked about how do you stop, you know, sign stealing or, you know, game planning. And he broke it down for like a minute and a half of exactly what teams do every week and every team in the country does it. Whether, you know, you've got a buddy on your staff who coached at, you know, an opponent that your team that you're facing this week played two weeks ago, you call them, you know, you have this network of people that you reach out to and you find out as much information as you possibly can. And that's part of the game planning process. And then when it comes to game day, when it comes to watching film, you watch not just the film that you have that is shared with you by your opponent, but you try to get TV copy. And you have GAs and video guys that all they do is they watch the sidelines during the game copy and try to get as many signs as they possibly can of the TV copy. And then from that point, you go and you say, this signal led to this play and we need to figure out who's the live signaler, who's the dummy signaler, what the signals mean. And that's what the core of your staff is trying to do that all week long. Then he said, you get to game day and you have some GAs that are on the field and they're looking across the field and seeing which ones actually match up. And by, as a course of the game goes on, you start figuring out those signals. He said, that's something every team in the country does. And, you know, it's not the magnitude or the extent of what Michigan did by paying people to go to games by tickets and videotape the sidelines. That's a bridge too far. But within the parameters and within the rules, that kind of stuff happens all the time. All the time. - It's a very dumb place to be that this even became a story. - Hell in the communication is gonna be a game changer in college football. - We get that, like we forget that that's a rule this year. - What at Hanes King said he felt like Tom Brady was the line going into the Georgia Tech floor today game. - Tom Brady wishes he could run like Hanes King. - Right, USC is actually going to put both their defensive coordinators on the field to help with communication early in the season. That's something that they said that they are not going to be up in the booth. Just because they're not used to being able to talk on comms. - Yeah, you don't know how it's gonna play out, man. - And I think that's an interesting thing is you're gonna see certain teams. I think there will be a start on the field and then like, man, that actually works really well. I can talk to them until they're 15 seconds on the clock. I'll just work my way back up to the booth and see things a bit more comfortably. I think it's a really interesting thing to watch as we get more games starting tomorrow. Commem up next, it is basically the wrap-up season of listicles, the biggest impact transfers in college football and how they are viewed across the board, Commem up next year. But first, here's the big kennel that sports it up. - You ever had a big kennel burger? ♪ He's been up on here ♪ - After investing billions to light up our network, T-Mobile is America's largest 5G network. Plus, right now, you can switch, keep your phone, and we'll pay it off up to $800. 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I think Monday is that-- - Right, there is the Monday game. - Boston College, Florida State. - Yeah, I forgot about that one because it's the last Monday. - Don't cheat me a day today. - Before the NFL gets underway. - Apparently there's a certain Florida State fan that has vowed to eat dog poo out of a red solo cup should Florida State lose. God, things getting broke. - Well, who is? - Yeah, brr, brr, brr, brr. - I didn't see who it was. It was just a bar stool headline or something, but yeah. - Aw, the athletic is about that life though. - I mean, that's tough. I mean, I would never, look man, I love my Trojans. I would never go that far. College for the most top 100 transfers, what we're hearing about the 2024 is hottest newcomers. It is 100 transfers, the most impactfuls for answers in college football. Going through this list, a quick count. - Isn't that crazy though? We can go through a 100 impact transfer in college football. - I mean, you think about what the rosters look like. If you're just going on the starters, 22, on every team, there's 134 teams in FPS. - Yeah. - Do the quick math here. - 134, yeah, 134. - Is that 134? - Yeah. - So 134 times 22 alone is 2,948 players. - Yeah. - So just think about that for a second. There's 3,000 starters in FPS Division I football. - Yeah. - 100 is not that many when you really think about as far as the drop in the bucket as it were. But it also shows you the depth and breadth of college football nowadays that where you can have 100 impact transfers. And I think you can get through this list and still go, "Huh, there's some guys on here that didn't make the list." It's like, "Oh, okay." But in this top 100, a quick count, 21 of them transferred to Big Ten schools. - That's a big number. - And I think it shows you in the top two, according to this list. Number one being Caleb Downs, the safety from Ohio State, who transferred in from Alabama. - I still don't get that one. I still don't get it. - He's hunting for a title. - I guess. - And he's like a missing link for that defense. Ohio State's defense is gonna be nasty this year. They have fixed, and they fixed a lot of their defensive issues last year. Caleb Downs, and look, a boatload of cash too. - Yep. - Remember, it was $13 million to retain their roster that they spent in the transfer portal for Ohio State. So like Caleb Downs going to Ohio State, it makes sense. Very talented roster. He wanted to win a national title. He didn't think he was gonna be able to do without Nick Saban at Alabama. And so he goes to Ohio State. Number two, Dylan Gabriel, going from Oklahoma to Oregon. I mean, if you look at it, four of the top 10 are in the big 10, and there's two to Oregon, Evan Stewart, and Dylan Gabriel, and two to Ohio State, and Caleb Downs. - And the big one, John Juskins. - Players at their positions. - No doubt about it. No, and it's not particularly close. - I think you can make the article, the argument between Stewart and Bond. As far as-- - Evan Stewart and Isaiah Bond. Going back to Texas. - Yeah, depending on which, which wider receiver is more your particular flavor. - And I'll tell you what, Texas in the transfer portal at receiver is loaded on board. Because it's not just Isaiah Bond, they got Silas Bolden, too, from Oregon State. And this is the thing that sucks for Oregon State fans. And you're not gonna wanna hear this, but-- - Go la la la la la la la la la la. - This is the truth of what Jonathan Smith did at Oregon State. He recruited to a point where you were gonna be very competitive. - Three of the top 20 impact transfers left Oregon State to go to new schools. Aidan Childs going at quarterback position to Michigan State and following. Jonathan Smith was the number 14. Damien Martinez at 16 going from Oregon State to Miami. Actually, it's four guys, not three. Easton Masqueranes Arnold going Oregon State to USC at linebacker. - He is going to start at the mic. - And then Silas Bolden at receiver going Oregon State to Texas. Every single thing you hear about Silas Bolden at Texas is that, oh my God, he is a dude, an absolute monster. And now they have size and bond and speed with Bolden. - Texas lost a lot at receiver. They reloaded through the portal. - Also goes to show that Oregon State also put German McCoy from Oregon State to Tennessee. And of course, DJ from Oregon State to Florida State. - Yep. - So they have six of the top 75 impact transfers in the country. - Yep, it's crazy. And you mentioned 21 from Oregon. And look, Oregon also making the list with Jabbar Muhammad who goes from UW to Oregon. You had Kobe Savage as well making the list. - Jamari Caldwell. - Jamari Caldwell, the defensive tackle that came in from Houston. I mean, it's a pretty massive list of guys that made the jump and Oregon had a couple of holes they needed to fill. And they filled them through that transfer portal. - It's a really interesting spot when you start kind of looking at this. In the past, you know, the transfers were like a little patchwork here, a little patchwork there. I, despite Dion doing the whole Louie thing, I think the year before with Lincoln Riley showing, hey, look, if you've got a program that has players already, like you have Caleb Williams and you've got other guys around him, you can import your entire wide receiver room. - Yeah. - Like if you're Texas and you're like, our wide receiver crew or our offensive line is great. Our quarterback's one of the best in the country. Prior to injuries, they had one of the best running back rooms in the country. Like we can just go get wide receivers. We can do that and it'll be just fine. And I think that's such a stark contrast of what college football used to be. We're like, ah, you know, we'll go get a guy here. We'll go get a guy there. No, you've got, you've got programs that are just going wholesale. I'll get a D line here. I'll get my tight ends here. My wide receivers, like you see teams are loading up like whole position groups. And it's honestly pretty crazy when you think about, if you look at this list, that the teams that keep popping up are making names for themselves. And it's not just like the tier two and tier three teams, like Texas A&M or Ole Miss, like they're good teams, but they're not like Ohio State's on this list everywhere. - Yeah, everywhere. - You see what you don't see though? There's one team on here you don't see the minute they're at the very top. - Clemson, oh, what? - Georgia. - Georgia, yeah. - You just don't see Georgia in here going out or coming in. You have Dumas Johnson, the linebacker, the Winter Kentucky, and you've got Trevor Etienne going for Florida, Georgia, which one in one out kind of a deal. But outside of that-- - Well, they lost an edge rusher to Florida State. - Oh, that's right, Marvin Jones. - Yeah. - Who, he didn't look very good. - On Saturday. - He may or may not have gotten absolutely mauled by Georgia Tech. - Yeah, it'll happen. - Yeah, it'll happen. But my point being Georgia's really the only, like major, major, major national power out there that doesn't, that isn't on this list all over the place. You see Alabama everywhere, you see Oregon everywhere, you see Ohio State everywhere, you see Ole Miss, you see all these other perennial teams, and obviously Clemson, which we've noted, they're not going to touch any of this. But in this top 100, it's up and down the board. It is all of those teams. - Yeah, I think what's interesting though, is that if we look at it, you remember, this is the top 100 impact guys, right? - Yeah, this isn't everyone, this is the impact guys. - They got Jaden Rashada, remember, out of the portal? I mean, he's gonna be pretty important to their future moving forward. They got Vanderbilt's leading wide receiver from a year ago, but when you talk about impact guys, is he really gonna impact that room that's already really good? Is London Humphrey's gonna be a guy that really impacts that room that much? Probably not, because they're already so loaded everywhere else, which is crazy to think about. - No, it's entirely fair. It's just, it's interesting the way certain programs have positioned themselves in these markets, right? And I don't think it's necessarily a good or a bad thing. I'm definitely side-eyeing demo and not encouraging or working with transfers for whatever roles. - Yeah, you're telling me you don't have any holes that you need to fill. - That you'd like to be like, "Hey, 'cause there's a thing." Like, if you're from that region of the country, Clemson's a dope school. - Yeah. - Like if you're like, if you are from the south, Clemson is a school you want to go to. - Yeah. - Not only just because of like what they have been recently, but historically, the university itself, its location, everything about Clemson has a draw. - Yep. - And you're not going to take advantage of that? - Don't do it. - So like, so you've got-- - It's gonna be the old school way, man. - Right, like you've got kids that like, they go to their other school first and they realize, you know what, I don't like it here and you don't want those guys because they didn't want to be there first? I don't know, man. I feel like, I do understand what he's doing. I don't agree with it, but I understand it. I think eventually like everything would dabble, he'll back off of this, but I think he's going to want to put his foot down first. - Ziggin' when everybody else is zagging. - Right, we've got to have some fun with some audio here because I teased this earlier in the show. Russ, do we have the McVeigh? Okay, we're going to have to come back with this because Dusty, you've got to hear this because this was a conversation where we talked about this a little bit the other day and I cannot wait to see the look on your face when you hear this. Come here and make sure on Danny Dustin to know the fan. (upbeat music) - I think I have a newfound love, respect, and appreciation for Rams head coach Sean McKay. He went out with the PMT, the part of my take, guys, and he just, he laid it all out there. He bared his soul for the world to see. - Patreon looks great. - I'm embarrassed to admit, I had to get PRP for that. - Did you? - Yeah. - It's, hey, it looks a little fuller. You know, I was stressed, my beard. I mean, I was getting, I don't know if you want to say Alopecia, but it was getting thin. - Yeah, you got shots in your face? - Absolutely did. - Okay, so here's how it started though. - I got to get that. - I'll give you this, this is how it started. I'm so L.A. now. So a couple years ago at the draft house, they got this over the top shot. You go back to the year that Puke Nakuza is drafted, they want to show this. They're showing these where we're talking about the vision for Puke, all that stuff. I'm just, you know, selfishly looking at my hairline. Like, what the fuck is going on with this now? - That's when you get out, yeah. - All I'm seeing is bald, you know? And actually, Raheem Morris's daughter, Malia, she always used to say, "You are balding." And I thought she was just choking with me. So I told my wife, I said, "Why didn't you tell me "I'm actually going bald and back in my head look terrible." So I started getting PRP shots there. - Smart. - I come in, you know? I'm feeling good about that. And I said, "Why the hell not the beer?" - Yeah. - Are you just saying that? - No, he does look good. - If he's going to get this, he's probably going to Google it right now. - He is. - It's a pleasure pain when you do it. - Wow, wow. - Look at that. Full on admitting, not LeBroning it. He's going full earlacker. - Just embrace it. - Look, I started thinking about this. I don't have any trouble growing hair or facial hair. As if you're watching on YouTube right now, somebody mentioned that I look like Fazzy Bear. Yes, my hair is growing and growing and growing. My facial hair is growing and growing. But I was telling Jeff Russ this before the show. I have two little spots in my facial hair that take longer to fill in than any other spot. Like I can grow a beard, that's not a problem for me. What I have in my face right now is like two days? - Yeah. - I mean, obviously outside of my goatee 'cause I just trim that. Like what's on my face I think is like two days. It grows. - Yeah. - But would I like it to fill in a little thicker in some areas? Sure. - Yeah, I remember a couple of years ago, I was growing my hair out when our number two, she was younger. And I caught a glimpse of myself, the back of my head in the mirror. And I immediately went and told my wife, why the the the hell do you not tell me that I look so ridiculous back here? (laughing) And that's when I started changing. - What was her response to that? - She's like, oh no, you look fine. You can't hardly tell at all. Which once they pull out though, you can't hardly see it at all. You can absolutely see it. - It's too late. - Yeah. - So that's when I started shaving my hair again. - I, McVay has a look though where I couldn't imagine him without hair. - I could see him shaving it. 'Cause he, I think he's got, because he's got the very, very tan LA skin now. - Perfectly sculpted beard. - Yeah, and like just being that guy, I could see that happening. - He'd keep the beard. - Oh yeah, 100%. - He'd keep the beard shaved ahead. I could see that, but then he would go down like, he'd start looking like a supervillain. - I mean, instead of a super model. - I mean, that's how the transition takes place though. - He's a handsome man. - You know, when we can ask Succ about this, he rocks beard sans hair. - Yeah. - Very supervillainy. - But he's tall. - It's true, but he is not. - True, true. - If they is a shooter. - It's more Tom Cruise in a Tropic Thunder, if he went... - There we go. - Was it... - Less gross men. - Less gross men, yep. - I mean, Dusty, you've talked about, you know, you have a conquistador mustache. Would you... - I do. - Would you be willing to undergo the PRP treatments for to get a thicker, fuller mustache and beard? - Now, are we just saying... - Do you want to need a needle into your lip? - Are these the same PRP treatments that Kobe went to Germany for for his hamstring? - I would imagine so. It's probably the same. - Was there like a different one? Is this the platelet-rich? - Plasma? - Plasma? - I think it's the same one, but I think what we're missing here is from McVey, is I want to know, did he get these shots done in the United States? - Oh, absolutely he did. And it was by a boutique company that comes to your home and does it in your home. - That gets caught fighting steroids from the Philippines. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - Let me look, let's go to a dentist now to get Botox. - Not, yeah. - I said boutique, not bodega, it's like... - Right, they get their steroids from Britain. - Yeah, I mean, come on. (laughing) They do it with Botox, they do it with everything. - It's so... - Just come to your house and just be like, yep, this is a safe place to do this. - Yeah, we'll do this. I bet you these Hollywood stars have the surgeons come to their house. - Yeah, if you're rich enough, they just assume you're clean. - A house call? - Yeah, I'm like, yeah. - I saw it on Dexter, we could throw the plastic down and be fine. - Yeah, it'll be okay here. And so I think, I'm intrigued by this because I have several places on my beard where I just don't grow hair. - It, I just thought it was crazy. He was like, yeah, I got shoved into the back of my head, I got shoved into my face. We're doing good. And look, I'm not gonna lie. For those that can't see it, it looks good. - Looks good. - Look, I feel good. - Play good. - All right, that does it for us today. - Enjoy traffic. - Yeah, that's the downer about this. - I'll be back up partying with you animals in the studio tomorrow. - That's how long it's gonna take you to get here. - Musk, you're not wrong like that as well. I get to hit Portland right when rush hour traffic starts. - Have fun at Wilsonville. - Yeah, so fun. It's so easy to get through Wilsonville. - Why? - Why is Wilsonville so funny? - Honestly, you should swing through and come by my house and then go to the back way to Hillsborough. - Yeah, just go over the hill. - I'm being dead serious. - Go right over the hill. - All right, we'll see you tomorrow. Up next you got four hours of power from their mouths to your ears this prime time with Isaac and soup. Have a great Wednesday, everybody. - Bye. Happy birthday, agent rest. Love you, babe. (screaming) ♪ You spent it over here ♪ - Now at T-Mobile, get four 5G phones on us and four lines for $25 a line per month when you switch with eligible traders. All on America's largest 5G network. Minimum of four lines for $25 per line per month without a paid discount, using debit or bank account. $5 more per line without auto pay. Plus taxes and fees and $10 device connection charge. Phones will be at 24 monthly bill credits for well qualified customers. 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