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Visit King Supers.com/vaccines for more restrictions and exclusions apply. See site for details. (gentle music) - Hello everyone, thank you so much for joining us for the AEW Dynamite Po Show. Alex is trying to figure out how to make these cute little square circles. We got some new features in street yard. So I guess I'm doing our little host day intro. So I'll invite you. - Yeah, sure. Yeah, go ahead, whatever. - Get in your super chats, get in your humpertets@humpertets.com. And please leave a thumbs up on this video. Sean is out covering the Black Label Pro combine that they're doing, which is awesome. This is so weird. Nope, made it. - We were little circles. - We were, now we're, I'm not a fan. - It just feels really weird, yeah. - Not a fan, it feels like. Why am I on a Zoom meeting all of the sudden? I want nothing to do with being balls. Can we please stop this? - Not the best. Well, I'll tell you what, we had a ballsy ending to AEW Dynamite. That is for sure. If you're familiar with me and Pulaski's normal deal, we usually do puns. I think it's obviously fire wrestling puns if you want to participate in that game. But we have a ton to talk about with this episode of Dynamite. This is the go home Dynamite to all out. And Alex, are you ready to host? - Sure. - I mean, whatever. I thought, I thought you were supposed to, I thought you were taking over for Sean and I was just gonna stay in my color commentary deal. Then we threw the other Alex in here for like, you know, funsies. I have no idea how this is supposed to go, but I guess I'll host. - It's for clavicles. - Why not? - You have seniority, so I just assumed it was you. - I mean, sure, yeah, it's fine. Are you still in charge of segways and stuff? - Oh, I have no choice. It's just in my blood to be in charge of segways. - Good, good, that's better. Yeah, so all out of love. So lost without you. - Love you. - I knew you were right, believing for so long. Yeah, it's, they took an extra week off. They didn't, they'd remember was like, just, it was like, it was basically just like, all in Wembley, dynamite, all out Chicago. And that was like, I liked that they took the two weeks. We still have a collision where fingers crossed, we figure out a way to get FTR versus GYV on the card for all out. But like, I feel like they took the time and actually, well, pun intended, rekindled the feud. But heated it up, if you will, between Adam Page and sort of Strickland. There's a lot of really cool matches on the card. I hope they have some surprises for us, not just in like a new debut or something, but like, I wouldn't mind seeing, you know, hey, hey, this is a person we never thought was going to win a title, win a title. We haven't done one of those in a while, and that would be really fun for me. But we are here to sour up your grabs, but not tonight though, not really. And I do think that, you know, there's, I feel like there's a lot of momentum kind of coming out of all in, and then still it's a very quick turnaround to all out. And I think they've done a good job with sustaining that momentum, but I do think like, Fightful Select.com reported that Will Hobbs was backstage. Like, could that come into play? Things like this. This didn't really set the table for any major surprises, but I feel like surprises are supposed to be just that. Like we shouldn't always be able to grab hints of anything, not like the entire internet community did with the arson angle. Everybody was like, there was like, oh, oh, so this is a Swerve's family home that he just bought. That's burning down tonight, right? We're all in agreement. Internet, we're all in agreement. Yes, this is burning down tonight. Yes, show of hands, yes. It's unanimous. This house is burning down tonight. I was, listen, I was skeptical because I was like, well, we'll talk more about it. But that is a major step to take the character of Eggman Page. And we'll talk more about it. But everyone seemed to be in agreement as of noon Eastern time. That house is already in ashes. So that was fun to watch the entire internet just decide. You know, in this device, in these divisive times, it sure is nice to find out where everyone can agree on something and that is that that house was definitely burning to the ground. It is, it's nice when the wrestling community kind of unifies, you know, you'd love to see that. So so good stuff there for sure. Yeah, yeah. Well, first of all, we have just Ricardo, who's sending money to help our collective posts show. Thank you so much. Smoke, we're all smoking. I mean, the ruins of Swerve's family home also are smoking. And then Tom LaValle says, I'm seeing double eight cakes. Well, there you go, thank you so much. Because usually they do the four Alex's gimmick. But now, you know, we've got, it's different. So Tim McFall says, S-G-S-A-K-A, Wednesday takeover, what a time to be alive. We got Red Death, Yakuza Shida, Fletcher Okata, Billy Goat, Bastard, BCC Bucks, oh, and hangman, Burndown Swerve's house. I need a cold shower, says Tim McFall. So yeah, that was, there was a lot. They put a lot into the show. Good stuff. Oh, lookit, here he is. Oh, my goodness. Listen, I can barely hear you all. I am on the streets of Chicago. I got attacked, unprovoked by Mojo Raleigh. Mojo does Mojo. But I got to share a sincerely wonderful story. Oh, please. So, Mustafa Ali is here working as Black Label Pro Combine. So it's free on Chris Vambleed's channel, incredible match. And we watch what unfolded in the main event segments of Dynamite. And he calls himself repeatedly a fucking mark. And I said, why? He goes, because I messaged him and congratulated him this afternoon. And he gets told it. He said, bro, for using his new contract money to buy his childhood home. Wow. And Mustafa Ali got worked. So the next time somebody, sometimes somebody, said, you got worked, Mark? Well, listen, I just want to most of all be aware of professional wrestling as we know it. He's done with it. He may have been forced into retirement. The campaign is over. It is done. But it's still real. Thank you all for handling the show. Alex, Kate, Alec. I feel like we need an extra Kate here. I know it does. It's just to even think about-- Yeah, I feel like that should happen. But also, please check out my pinned tweet on Twitter. I didn't know I'd be doing a wrestling thing until today. And usually I do it for a nice cause. If you all don't mind, please show some love to that. And also, we had a bunch of scoops on Fightful Select today. I'm trying to not post teasers before I post the news. So you just get it when you get it. But guys, I got some good interviews coming this week. I got more signing news, confirmations. I'm supposed to talk to a very fun, interesting wrestler tomorrow. We've got Shirley's interview with Willow. It's a good time. Thank you all. Hey, how'd it go in the ring? Oh, he didn't want to talk about that for some reason. That's so weird. He's in the middle of Chicago, man. He's probably fighting off people trying to stab him right now. That's right. It's possible. It's possible. He pulls my cousins for our cops there. So I just got to give him a call and give him a personal show fur and everything to get from point A to point B. Have some security for Sean. Sure. I'm going to just text him right now while we're on the show. I mean, I think-- Praised CM Punk fans trying to hold him down and put bracelets on him just-- Sure. Yeah. You never know, you know? It's a-- yeah. Oh, so we got Vicki L, who is a 12 month member of the Fightful Yeah. He loves Vicki. Oh. SRS and Team, thank you for the best year with Fightful. George J lives in Nana, Mox wanting Darby, friend or foe. Hangman just passed McIntyre for a hater of the year award. I mean, he's going to get some votes. You feel like McIntyre had it sewn up with McGinnis as a strong second place. Yeah. I mean, I think Hangman Page may have just cemented-- On the new status. I mean, did Mr. Paul Lee fall for anything that Drew's done is really-- now that's the measuring thing. Now that's a thermometer of whether or not you're a hater, I feel like. Yeah, that's true. So let's talk about guy to Mike. Garcia came out first, called out MJF, because he's not-- patients of virtue, I'm not feeling very virtuous. How about Milwaukee? You see me kick MJF's ass right now. And MJF has already, of course, in the building, seated up on the one of the little balcony things in a venue in which I took my kid to see the circus. Oh. Twice. When I was living in Milwaukee, it's a much bigger venue than it looks. But it was interesting because I'm like, I feel like we sat right near where MJF was. So I was like, OK, cool. But he's already got the security dudes hanging out. Probably all just nicely buzzed on PAPs, Blue Ribbon, because it is Milwaukee. Oh, my god. It'd be Milwaukee beer then? Like Milwaukee Blue? PAPs. Oh, I thought I-- PAPs was actually-- Frederick PAPs, came up with his beer, and there's the PAPs Brewing Company is still there. It's a major deal. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Mm-hmm. Yep. So he says, no, we're not going to do that. And blah, blah, blah. I'm better than you, and you know it. That's basically what he said. It's most of the time that's what he says. It was well delivered. But my favorite thing is we've got a new meme now coming out of this is Garcia turning from MJF, looking at the camera going, do you believe this guy? That was great. That's living forever. But they go back and forth about who wants to end somebody's career more. I wish they would have done like Garcia being like, you almost ended my career, like I thought for a while that I might not get out of that wheelchair. And I want you to feel what I felt, but then I want you to not actually be able to get out of the wheelchair. So like, I thought that was good. MJF can't help but make your mom is a slut joke. So that's fun. But Garcia hops the barricade, wants to get to MJF, but he's held back by security guys until he's not. It finally gets all the way up the stairs to MJF, who smashes like a bottle over his head because he's drinking the bottle of wine. Drinking a lovely-- I don't know. I mean, it's not Merlot. Cabernet. I was thinking Cabernet. I was going to say something else, but it's probably Cabernet. Drinking one of those things. And he gets Garcia some color, sits down next to him, says, hey, I'm going to do something for you. Do something nice. I'm going to show you that none of these people really like you. And when I'm done putting that in your head and making you feel this way, then you can thank me later. And then he kisses his blood. Dastardly. Dastardly. And it licks it. Kind of did. Yeah. No, he did. That towards the end, he's literally licks his fingery blood. Yeah, gross. Yeah. I liked a lot of what we got in here. I liked Garcia calling him fake and going after everything. I don't think we've had a promo that attacks the cheap heat stuff that Max gives out, having something to retort with. That kind of goes after the same thing. We haven't done a promo like that. Kind of sends Ricky Starks when he was going after his book. And Ricky did it from the fashion standpoint. Danny Garcia here coming in from the just calling him fake standpoint, going after his hairline, which just a rude thing to do to a man. But-- Well, my favorite part was MJF confirming via his reaction to that. It was like, you're this and you're this. And MJF's like, no, I'm not. And then there was that time. You went to Turkey for a hair treatment, blood treatment, that didn't even take you son of a bitch. I mean, now we know it's true, Max. I mean, come on. No sell it a little bit more. Yeah, the thing that-- so now we know how to get under his skin, really. But my only complaint with this, and it's kind of nitpicky, the heel turn was done with beating Danny Garcia up and him getting color and crying. And it felt like kind of going back to that same well. I know they wanted to throw some heat on this thing, because this story diverted back to Osprey. And now we're back here again. But it just mapped a little bit too close, in my opinion, to the creative that we got from the actual heel turn. Danny Garcia bleeding in the corner kind of thing. It gave a very similar visual. Other than that, I love this. I think the more interesting outcome for both of them is if Max loses and Danny goes over, because Max is going to have to start questioning some things. If he's losing to Osprey, losing to Garcia, definitely don't want him turning back face, but he's going to have to clamp down even more on being an asshole. Or he's going to have to hire somebody to help him out or figure some things out. So I really liked this segment mapped that heel turn a little close for me. But Cardozo, what did you think? I thought that it started off really slow for me, for some reason. I wish there was just a little bit less talking and more violence, but that's just me. I like violence. I like people beating each other up. I don't mind a good glass being broken over your head. The minute I saw Max wearing white, I knew that he was going to be, there was going to be some type of blood involved. No one ever wears white in wrestling unless there's something spilling out of someone's body. Okay. In some way, shape or form. But I see that they're trying. And I see that they're trying to get Daniel Garcia up to a certain level, which I'm okay with. There's some, like Alex mentioned, there's some things that should have been addressed, you know, like with the wheelchair thing, like all that stuff that should have been added on. But in the short two weeks, right? 'Cause it's been only two weeks since all in. I think they've tried. They're told a pretty good story in every segment. So I'm up in the air. I don't even know who's going to win this match, to be honest. Yeah, at all out. So I'm intrigued. It feels like one of the less predictable ones to me too. Like that I'm looking forward to. 'Cause I think you could go either way. I just feel like Danny Garcia has been on the adversity path so long. We're like teetering into Cody Rhodes adversity for a little bit. So I would like him to get a big meaningful win. If he hasn't resigned that guy, he's a mega star. This was nice to see him on the mic really start to dig in though. A lot of his promos have been such cool guy stuff. It's kind of nice to hear him verbally come out swinging in this. I agree. Yeah, I think Garcia wins the feud. But I don't know how they're going to get there. I would not be surprised to see Garcia end up losing this because Max, they got a duplicate diamond ring made. But he says in Canon that he went to the pawn shop that he pawned it at and bought it back or something. And that's how he gets the diamond ring back or whatever. If they really need that to be part of Max's schtick. And it feels like they were not prepared for that to be done with the Max character. So they might just say, well, we just got to have a get a new one made. And it takes two weeks to do that. Or Max debuts or unveils. Like a debut would be like somebody joining the company. Or unveils as somebody we already know from the company that is his new heavy who ends up costing Garcia. And then you can have Garcia go through some big guy to get back to Max eventually. Like this could easily be a thing that lasts well into the fall before Garcia finally gets rid of the Max thing. And whatever Max tries to go back after Osprey for that title, like he said he was going to, Garcia will always be there to stop it. This might be one of your really long things. Or it might be, you know, neat and tidy. Garcia gets his revenge. They both go on separate ways. Love will find you, break those chains that bind you. You know, the deck kind of wins. - I do think to the diamond ring being involved in this is interesting because he won it multiple times, but he's never defended it. There's never been another tort of it for it. So Danny Garcia, I start with the ring that wouldn't make me upset. I wouldn't mind seeing that be the victory piece that Garcia kind of leaves with. Guys, getting your super chest and your hamper chest as we're talking some AEW Dynamite. Shawn alluded to the Fightful Select scoops that we've had this week. Corey Brennan with a ton on our NXT show yesterday posting a bunch back behind the paywall about more context with Julia and everything happening on that brand. More on the Warner deal, I'm sure, on its way. More contracts, more pay-per-views, tons at Fightful Select who also get me that was Polowski behind the paywall doing paywall, pay-per-view post-show, say that 10 times fast, but that will also be the case for all out. So if you like what you see tonight, if you want to see something outside of what Shawn's got here on the main, join us on Fightful Select.com over there. Luis says that MJF will win in Chicago, but Garcia will win at Grand Slam in the yearly Lights Outmatch in New York. - I wouldn't hate that. The lights out being the thing to kick it up to another knots of violence ain't bad. - So our main event tonight is the newly constructed BCC, the packpool compact club versus Will Osprey and a percentage of the conglomeration. And there was a backstage promo where everybody's there and Will Osprey's there and she's happy to, you know, I'm gonna beat up Statlander at all out and whatever, but then Osprey comes in and he says, "Do you have some words of wisdom?" And then Mark Brisco just regales a story of Kyle O'Reilly calling him and asking permission to tag with Will Osprey during which Kyle O'Reilly impeccably lip syncs his part of the phone call as it is retold by Mark Brisco. And listen, Mark Brisco's fun, it's fun. And no sees doing a lot of his great little deadpan stuff. The star of the conglomeration is Kyle O'Reilly. I will hear no other tales about it. - He's great, and he's really been, he is getting every ounce out of every second of TV time that he gets. I believe firmly there will be a major storyline with him. - Passion, drive and patience. 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And no matter what tasty choice you make, you'll enjoy our everyday low prices. Plus extra ways to save, like digital coupons worth over $600 each week and up to $1 off per gallon at the pump with points. So you can get big flavors and big savings, king supers, fresh for everyone, fuel restrictions apply. - It's not just him hanging out with a couple of guys in a funny name for Atrio. Like he's gonna have like a thing. When Adam Cole is back, like they're keeping this thing going with him and Roddy Strong. Like they'll be a major former members of the UE feud thing if they get back together, if they all hate each other, whatever. That's gonna be a fun thing. - My takeaway from this was I would marry Kylo Riley on site. Like I just-- - Wow. (laughing) - Wow. - There was, I was very genuinely emotionally moved by the fact that this guy was able to come back to wrestling at all 'cause he very much wasn't supposed to be. I did not know we were gonna get like silly goose, Kylo Riley along the way. I am loving what we're getting for him. Same deal when Mark Briscoe said, "Hold my baby." And it was the ROH Championship and he's just talking it up and down in the back. Like I adore, and as Plasky and I both stand so cool Kylo and NXT, which a lot of people were not. I love this item, Kylo Riley. And I like what we're getting at at the conglomeration. Only complaint here is we've been getting a lot of multi-man matches plus a guy and multi-man trio on the other side plus a guy who the singles guy on the one side is at odds with. Like I would like for after all out that playbook to get used less 'cause I feel like we're seeing a lot of it. Some of that is we've just got literally a lot of it on specifically all in. So if they could just pair that down, that would be good. But this was super fun, Ospre. I called him like the golden doodle of professional wrestling because of his energy. He continues to give that. This was fun. I love that he asked Mark Briscoe's permission as well. No problems with this at all outside of the, let's get away from a trio and a guy thing. - What'd you think? - Great. - Cardoza. - Well, now that I can put in my three cents, there's something that you guys mentioned and I pay attention to you guys 'cause that's what a professional journalist does like myself. And that is the fact that you mentioned Willow was there smiling, having a good time. And everyone else is kind of just like sitting there hyped up, happy, Kyle Riley's doing his shake with his, that's what this place is about right now is these characters being able to come together and just do what they are born to do, you know? It doesn't necessarily all have to be 100% scripted and give it to you. These guys are putting together these backstage segments with, it's shining man, just doing great. I love that you guys mentioned that because that's exactly what I felt when I was watching it. Mark Briscoe's effing insane, I mean, plain and simple. I just became hip to him a couple years ago and seeing the stuff that he's doing now on his own, he's so damn good. He's so damn good and he fits in perfectly. - And as a baby face, like I feel like there'd be a huge temptation because of his in-ring style of his love to make him a heel, but like he is so likable and so easy to get behind. And Cardo's at your point, like the conglomeration especially, like Ishi was in this all summer and now he's gone. Like anytime with best friends or this, it can be like, you won't throw a vampire in the mixture or Dan Hausen's best friends for a while. You wanna poke Kylo Riley in orange Cassidy and Willow together. There's this like really beautiful thing where in both I felt like best friends and the conglomeration, like these people don't necessarily make sense together but also they just do. Like there's not like a super clear common thread but it's just like this gang of these wild, like this island of misfit toys that just works together somehow and I love it. - I agree. We get from Bad Robot. Hello favorite post-show hosts since it's Wednesday. Kylo Riley is one of the all-time funniest wrestlers. I love him so glad he's back again. He's great, he's just great. - Me too. So we got Ocada versus Kyle Fletcher tonight. This, man, if you weren't on board with the Kyle Fletcher is the truth and the future deal before tonight, you gotta be now. I'm sorry, I'm calling it otherwise it's just, and this is from me. Otherwise you're just hating to hate 'cause Kyle Fletcher's it. And to the point where like, I'm watching this thing and it'd be like, well, they gotta, when are they strapping him up? I'm sorry, like who is ripe for defeat? Let's put a belt on Kyle Fletcher 'cause he's so friggin' great. And I know he was the TV champ in ROH that doesn't count. Like on TV. - They didn't care. - Yeah, so I wanna watch him in AEW do stuff 'cause this was amazing. He was in control of Ocada. - Yeah. - Like he was just, he was throwing him all over the place, brain-bustering him on aprons and barricades and getting out of rain makers. Like he was doing great. And we had to see the, you know, the Ripcord kick to the nuts. That was the only reason he lost was he got the Ripcord kick to the nuts. And otherwise he probably beats Ocada 'cause he was getting out of everything else. So this was excellent. And I'm really excited to look back on this time in Kyle Fletcher's career in like, let's say 18 months. - Sure. - He's the, like he's top five wrestler in the world material, still only like what? 27, 28 years old at the time. So that'll, it's just amazing. He's so great. - He's excellent. I'm intrigued to see because we have this big Australia show coming off, right? In the beginning of 2025 in February, I'm not a believer of booking for moments, but Kyle Fletcher winning a title at a stadium in Australia at their first show in Australia would be a pretty special one if you wanted to do it. My guess is a lot of his trajectory has to do with whether or not Mark Davis is ready to come back 'cause he is. - My next question was going to be has he outgrown Ocio open? - I mean, it's tough because that team worked so well and I feel like Fletcher was always the centerpiece of it. - They're great. I love them, I love them together. I love Ozzy Open. But like Kyle Fletcher's gone beyond like a really, really talented guy in a great tag team. He's beyond that already. Usually you gotta wait for a guy to like have several years of doing that and then gets to around 30 and you go, we gotta split this guy up from his tag partner. The tag partner's also great, but this guy needs a rocket strap to him in a major way. - I feel like maybe accidentally because Mark Davis has spent the last 11 months on the shelf that maybe that just kind of sped up the trajectory of his erstwhile tag team partner. And now like, I don't wanna see that happen. I want Ozzy Open back together for at least a decent tag title run, but I don't know, man. - That's the thing to me is if they start to care about the tag division so it doesn't feel like a step down and feels like a step lateral, then I think it's a better call but he really, really is having a breakout year. This match with Ocada was great and the psychology and the pacing are what blows my mind with someone this young. Like he has mastered some of the things that wrestlers tell me are the most difficult about it which is like the ways he avoided the rainmaker today and like creatively doing things that make sense with your athleticism and the way that he can control match pacing at such a young age beyond me, beyond me. He has said publicly in response to a tweet of mine about that specifically that he gives all the credit in the world with that to the Osprey mentoring him because that is also a well-off spray strength. But I would love to see one of two things. I would like to see Mark Davis come back and they win the tag titles and the tag titles and the tag division is on fire again so it doesn't feel like a step down or I would like a really, really, really strong Kyle Fletcher C2 showing, like maybe him into Kestan the finals or something like that. Like something where he goes really deep and it does wonders for him as a singles competitor so whichever trajectory that leads to cool, this match with Ocada was unreal. Also nice to see Ocada defending his title more often but Cardoza did you have as much fun with this as Alex and I did? - I mean, insane. Fletcher is next level, next level. There's no other way to put it. He's one of the young stars that I think AEW if they lock where to lock him down for long term kinda you see that person just becoming one of the future pillars of the company. Ocada is so charismatic even without any facial expressions. Like he's fighting in the ring expression list. He's getting his ass kicked in expression list but man, can he turn it on when he gave the finger to the crowd. (laughing) The crowd got so pissed like, oh really mother effer? Like you really gonna do that to us? But I tell you what, man, having Takesh to come out at the end as well like that, you know, kind of just putting him into the mix of things. And you mentioned something funny, has Fletcher grown out of Ocio open? And honestly in my feeling, I totally forgot about that. He separated himself so far from this group that in my mind, he's on his own trajectory making his own stance as a solo competitor right now. That if you were to kinda take him and put him back again with someone, I would feel like it would 1000% put the brakes on him. Because now you're depending on your tag team partner and being in the psychology of a tag team match as opposed to the psychology of what you just saw today with Ocada. - He does eat a lot of L's though. So if they're gonna eat him up for something, he's got to start getting some high quality wins, but. - L's come with W's sooner than later. - If it's done right, if it's done right, we've seen some bad stuff there, but you know what, he's gonna be made of venting pay-per-views someday. And if you are buying all these pay-per-views before the max deal, if you are showing out money, it might be a more affordable situation for you to, I don't know, maybe visit a different country with the NordVPN. - There's no sponsor that I use more while I'm awake, the NordVPN.com/fightful. Man, this is like the Swiss Army knife, the multi-tool of applications. It does a little bit of everything. You always get a great deal at NordVPN.com/fightful. You can listen to your favorites abroad. You can shield your data from snoops and criminals, protect yourself on public Wi-Fi, and it works on all your devices and operating systems. It doesn't end there. Change your virtual location and then get pay-per-views at a much more affordable price, TV services at a much more affordable price. You've got a password manager, a file encryption tool, threat protections. And on top of that, 24/7 tech support. So for some reason, you don't know exactly how it works. NordVPN.com/fightful will help you learn how to do it. Check it out, NordVPN.com/fightful. - Jake Neal says, "Put Mark Davis with the butcher "and have a big meat team." Not bad. - Not bad. - Tim McCall says, "I'm with Alex, hold on now. "I just asked a question. "I didn't say that this was my vote. "So don't assign this to me now, Tim." Says, "He's with me again, not. "I just ask questions, I don't ask." I'm not saying it, I'm just asking questions. Strap Kyle up, he says. He's outgrown the tag division. I'll take a short reign for Aussie Open, but that's it. Oh, and he's a smoke show LOL. They're really good in AEW about having guys who are in tag teams have really fun singles matches. You know what I mean? - Yeah. - Dax for the, well, FTR was really cooking. Dax was getting the wrestler of the year, like nominations and stuff. - Yeah. - So you could easily have them together and have Kyle doing cool tag team, like cool singles moves, matches. I also feel like if we get them back together and we can easily do a thing where if you add in, let's say you get top flight out of the spirit Halloween and then you put them in there with private party and Aussie Open and GYV and the Young Bucks and FTR and whoever else you wanna throw in there. And that's a tag division. And like if you could give me Aussie Open having amazing matches with all of those people and then after that, let's say, you know, they hold the titles for a couple of pay-per-view cycles and then you can break them up and do a thing about that. But I really wanna see more of them as a tag team. I really do. We didn't get to see enough of them. They were supposed to win that damn match at WrestleDream. - I know. - And then Mark Davis got hurt. I mean, like I have no idea what the plans were for an Aussie Open tag title run. I really wanted to see what that was gonna be. - Sure. - As do I-- - Oh, you're right. No, honestly, I'm sorry. Mayakalpa, MXM, for sure. It needs to be a part of that conversation. I'm very sorry, guys. - Everybody's touching tips in the chat. Everybody, but I'm glad you brought up top flight 'cause it actually feels kind of like a similar thing. It felt like while Darius was out, then came back and was out again. Dante flourished on a singles front and they didn't really do anything with it. Hopefully they learned from that mistake because they have not been properly back on a track since they've all been healthy since both of them have finally been healthy for a sustained period of time. - By the way, we, oh, sorry, go ahead. - Good, thank you. - Well, I know we'll talk about this towards the end, but they've made the cage match lights out on a sanctioned match, so. - There you go. - At the end of the show, Tony Khan came out and said, "Enough is enough." - And there you go. - Lights out. - Lights out a lights out cage match or is it just a lights out match now? - Oh, it's still in the cage. It's still in the cage, yeah. - Oh, okay, yes. - Yeah, they're gonna be able to do whatever they want. - Gorilla Radio match, as I like to say. - Um, James Zimmerman says, "Is Will Osprey setting up the next 50 years "of great wrestling? "When you think about like the tree of people "who are going to learn from Osprey, "who are then going to teach the next generation?" - Oh, learning tree of law, Osprey. - I did not say learning, I just said tree. - Hey, guys. - I might've said teaching tree. - I like teaching tree, but TT. - Well, TT. - Certainly, I think England is. It feels like a lot of the premier talent are coming out of there right now, so. - So, they've announced that Ocada, having won this match, will face three other people at All Out. And those matches don't matter, because we already know who's winning them. Oc, Mark Briscoe, and Takeshta. Now, the matches are gonna be great, but I don't like, just say these three guys are hit it, 'cause the matches are gonna be great, but also there's no suspense in Will Orange Cassidy somehow beat Brian Keith? - Yes. - Mark Briscoe versus Lance Archer. God, I wish Lance had a chance of winning that, but he doesn't. And Beast Mortals versus Takeshta is gonna be an amazing match, that Beast Mortals has a negative percentage of chance of winning. - Yes. - So, yeah, so those three guys are gonna be amazing, and then we get Takeshta, Ocada, in there. And this, I think, if I understand the way Will Washington's brain works, (laughs) you do a thing where we start off like, holy crap, this is the beginning of something, but it doesn't actually lead to anything. He won't be the one who takes the pin or whatever. And Takeshta ends up versus Ocada in a longer feud. They may be that the C2 shakes out so they're facing each other in the finals of that, for that title, that kind of a thing, but it all starts here in this fatal four way. And I think there's some really, really great stuff that's gonna come out of it. - Agreed, yeah, I think Takeshta, Ocada, is the way you have to go with the C2. If you watched any of the G1 and saw the way Takeshta works through a similar style tournament and his presentation there, my God, you would be foolish not to put him in the finals and not to have him win. Like, this guy, every time he's in there, is unbelievable and has all the makings to be a huge star. He was a great face when he came in. He's been a great assassin like he'll, since they turned him he'll get this guy on a track. Let's go. You beat Kenny Omega like 47 times, man, pay it off. - A lot, a lot, many, many times. - Jamie Hader defeated Robine Renagade. Robine is such a fantastic talent. And I am looking forward to say, oh wait, sorry, I'm not Linda right now. It's Robine Renagade. This was really fun. Jamie Hader's great. And they haven't announced it yet. Saraya and Harley-Hammond are watching the match back stage. But I'm assuming that winds up zero-hour-ish and now we're on the floor. Maybe they'll do that during the live collision rampage deal on Friday. They'll announce that we're gonna get Hader versus Saraya. But I feel like that's probably happening all out night. - Yeah, I would assume so. I would assume so too. And Jamie Hader looking great since she's come back has not lost a step. I love the rainbow bright look that she had. I think it was really, really cool. What an asset to the division. And she looks great. Like she is hitting just as hard as she used to. And Robine Renagade also getting some main roster reps, I think can only benefit her. I think this is a really, really good thing. So they do now, believe it or not, which is not something I ever would have thought I'd been saying, certainly not a year ago, have to figure out like even with ROH, there's kind of a surplus of talent. So if you're not gonna hard split the brands, you do have to think in terms of like a tag division or stables or something. Like that has to be inevitable. If you're not gonna say, these people are in ROH and these people are in AEW and they even got forbid, most of the time they're on dynamite or most of the time they're on collision. So they have so much talent that I think some stables or a tag division would benefit them. I think it would be very fun. I've said multiple times, but to have floating tag titles, have the bellows come do an inaugural thing. It would be awesome. Or the Garcia is now. And make sure that you're continuing to build this next crop up because it's incredible how much this division is just bursting with talent. Jamie Hader, a huge shot in the arm to a dynamite, or a dynamite, a roster that was already dynamite. That was already cooking so much. So and we get a vignette from Deanna later. So effort to sustain people's momentum. A very good thing. - Tom LaValle says so many women tonight, it would be $20 to list all of them. So let's talk about the other women who are on tonight. We got later, we got Mariah Mae versus Nyla Rose. - Yes. - And the Rose doing her thing, which is, ah, a new champion. I shall be the first challenger. - I shall be the one to lose first. - I volunteer to lose first as tribute. And yeah, it's always good because Nyla's great. And so this was very good. She got to throw around Mariah. Mariah got to be, you know, not really in danger, but like she got to be tossed around by somebody bigger than her throwing hard strikes. She wins. I love that she continues to win with a storm zero. - Yeah. - I think that's really, that's a great little touch, an extra little FU. I guess Tony Storm has said that she left Wembley and went immediately back to Australia to recuperate and also to look for Wendy Richter. So I think that whenever Tony Storm comes back, I just want her completely insane. Like just out of her damn mind crazy. And I don't know what we're doing. We don't know what we're doing with Mariah Mae at all out at this point. So I'm not sure what we're gonna do, but yeah. - Yeah, and I don't know if it's a thing where she needs to defend there either. Like there's got to be some stuff where you're probably making sacrifices of certain things that have to get left off the card. And she's the one with the big win that just came. So I think it's a good thing to have some things that feel fresh and you don't have all your momentum compacted into these two weeks. I feel like Mina Sherikawa is a given at some point, probably sooner than later. The only thing in this perfectly told story with Tony Storm and Mariah Mae that they didn't really do along the way was build up stories for Mariah Mae to loop back around to. It was like most of her in-ring was squashing other people. So they're going to have to do creative efforts to build up contenders for her 'cause there weren't a lot of seeds planted along the way 'cause it wasn't really about that. It was about the tension between Tony and Mariah. So I'm excited to see what we get from Mariah. This match was perfectly suitable. The crowd was a little quiet for it, I think just 'cause it was a little slower stylistically. It was a lot of like picking you up and tossing you around kind of stuff, which at nine o'clock on the hour doesn't always strike the crowds the same way, but they got them back somewhere in the middle and the end. And I thought it was good. I thought they did a good job. Would love to see Nylie get to be on a more consistent track too. Obviously, Sir Pentico was in booking if she's losing it title shots as much as the only thing I can think of. But Cardozo, what did you think? You know, Mariah's stars just continuing to rise. I think they just need to kind of like let her build it up. She's been doing so much behind Tony Storm. I think the very first match that we kind of got to see her really like break out on her own was against Tony Storm. Everything else has kind of been like, you know, she's been working alongside her or doing something for her or trying to show off for her, right? So I think that these, she needs to, they need to give her good, formidable matches. What's tonight? One of them, I'm half and half on it. Nylie Rose is cool, but like I felt like it could have, the match should have been a little bit more hard hitting. I want Nylie to be more of that beast. You know, you know, toss, toss her around. Especially, I mean, like you look at the sizes, she should have been easily tossed around Mariah May. And then Mariah would have to find a way to win that match, which she did at the end. But I feel like it should have had way more physicality. But I mean, overall, baby steps where we'll get there. - Yeah. - Roy Zhang saying Mariah proved she could hit Storm Zero on anyone. - Yeah. - Yeah. - That was a very true point. - Like that. And James Zimmerman says, "I think that women's division is finally on the right track. Normally I say wait and see, but tonight felt really good and safe about the direction. The direction also includes Deanna Parazzo, who looks like she's moving fully on from the Thunder Rosa thing. Honestly, I just felt like that was going to continue forever. - Would have been fine with it. - But I really liked this vignette of her, like being that with the bullrope, Matt was supposed to be my magnum opus, but it wasn't. So I'm still, I'm moving on. She has a match versus Sheida on the big three hour thing on. - When you need meal time inspiration, it's worth shopping king supers for thousands of appetizing ingredients that inspire countless mouthwatering meals. And no matter what tasty choice you make, you'll enjoy our everyday low prices. Plus extra ways to save, like digital coupons worth over $600 each week and up to $1 off per gallon at the pump with points. 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She's got the black leather gloves and the black suit with the red shirt and the black tie. She looks amazing. And Christopher Daniels is up there who says that Camille will be banned from ringside. So Camille was basically the reason why Sheida lost the first match versus Mercedes on a dynamite a little while ago. And Sheida says the only reason that I didn't beat you is because of her. So I got her removed and then Mercedes can be heard off my streaming. I'm going to talk to the EVPs. Which is also like, it's okay. So that's fine. I feel like there are machinations backstage where the Tony Khan surrogate, Christopher Daniels, gets to have his way about some things, but not everything. And they just chose this one is going to be on the side of that. So we'll see more coming out of this, I think. - To the point of that super chat earlier, one thing that feels really good and I think you used the word like safe 'cause there's been so much start and stop with this division. It feels more sustained now than ever. When you see something like we had this big blow off with Deanna and we get a vignette like we got tonight. So many times we saw that momentum just get dropped off a cliff. And I'm very glad because Deanna is one of the best women's wrestlers in the world to see another vignette keeping her name in the mix on stuff. Very virtuosous style. I really, really like it. That feud with Thunder Rosa was awesome. If they continued it for the rest of their lives, that wouldn't have been bad. Hope Thunder Rosa is okay after a nasty spot on collision. But really, really good stuff there that we're just getting that effort of keeping people fresh and under your screen, the talent rotation, so, so improved over the past 12 to 18 months in AEW. And then, I mean, got the CEO coming out. - Alex, you're not gonna be the dance. - I'm not through the dance. - You don't do it. You don't do any dancing anymore. - No, I'm just gonna know so. - You used to be a proper host. You used to dance with me, but. - Maybe, maybe not, I don't know. - This was, she was so excellent. Her hard work on this aspect of things. I know she had been working on her English and years ago when she kind of first was off TV was, I think taking acting classes or just putting effort into that character side of things, paying off mightily here. She's got the whole coke and rip off the shirt spot. Only she doesn't suck in the person as far as me now. So, I think it's awesome. Like, this calling her the ACE thing and then Mercedes saying, "How can you be the ACE "when you don't even have a title?" Especially this title. I thought that was all excellent. And she, calling back to what you said, the only reason I didn't win the first time was because of Camille and she's not gonna be there. Logical, beautiful storytelling. That match, that has the chance to be match of the night. It really, really, really does. It's so cool that the women's matches are constantly in that conversation. Makes my little women's wrestling heart thing. So, Cardozo, what do you think of Deanna's vignette? And what did you think of what we got here? - I liked it. I think that they're starting to really click with certain things. Like, look at the storytelling. They're finally weaving stories through episodes, which is very hard for them to do for some reason. So, today, they weaved certain things. And they didn't have to start in the beginning and bookend at the end. Like, you know, like WWE, right? But they weaved stuff through with, you know, case in point, the swerve stuff. But you look at what that vignette with Deanna was perfect. I thought it was great. What a great way to freaking just like tell her story of like, I'm coming back and yo, I'm coming back to kick heads and plain and simple. You gotta give her that because she's a strong female character. She wasn't in TNA, right? She was like a knock-off champion for a while there. Wasn't she? - Yes, big time. - You gotta like give her that power back. You gotta give her that story back of her being a powerhouse. So, I can't wait. And then, you know, the whole thing, we're like, you asked about Mercedes, right? - Yeah, Mercedes and Sita. - When she just with Sita. She does, it's such a badass. - Yes. - She's another one. The women's division is slowly, and we've been saying this for a couple of weeks now on Friday Night SmackDown and then like on our chats. But the, it's kind of getting up there. It's rising. And I love the Camille and Mercedes pairing. - Perfect, perfect. - It is, I mean, you cannot ask for anything more when it comes to like having a heavy that has your back and looks like a badass, acts like a badass and kicks people's head in like a badass. You know? I feel like she's doing a better job than most of the guys are with their heavies. - Yep. - You know, with the pairing, so. - Her meat division on the men's side is hurting a little bit, but nice to see that Hobbs was reportedly backstage. And I am very encouraged by a lot of what's happening. I also just want to say on Friday, I went to Capital Collision and I posted about this online, but I think it's worth mentioning on stream that like she had just performed in front of 50,000 people and she was coming to perform in front of 1,800 to 2,000 people probably. And she came out with a superstar entrance. She had higher break dancers. She came out with Capital Collision's specific year. She put on a great match with Momo where she looked great and Momo looked great. And it was a maid event effort and she gives this post-match speech. And I was so struck by how much it, it could have been 12 people in that room and she would have put forth the same effort. And that is like best in the world shit. And it really left me feeling inspired in a lot of ways because just the amount of integrity that she gave in front of both of those crowds was equal. And I just think that's something that's very cool. So when you're talking about the go, that kind of stuff for me enters into that conversation. But we've got all these title matches set it up for all out and I bet you guys are wondering if there's somewhere online that you could place a wager about such things. Do you guys want to know where? - Sure. - I'll tell you where. Sean's going to tell you where. But it's actually, it's not. - I want to talk to you guys about our great partner at BetOnline AG. Yes, the place that lets you bet on pro wrestling. We've gotten our pro wrestling betting odds from them for years well before we even worked with them. And we're going to tell you a little bit more about them. They got the earliest lines, the fastest payout, the industry best bonuses. 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I mean, I certainly think that Deanna can lose to Sheida who's getting a title match the following day and for all we know could wind up being what is that, would that be like a four time champion? First time, the first ever time who's going to two. So, I think Deanna, coming off a loss, can say, "I want to get back on track. This time she loses again. Now I really need to get back on track." And then you could start her winning matches. Like the wind streak will start for Deanna again. It just might not start on Friday. But yes, I do think it is more likely that Mercedes Monet and Camille get involved in that match. But yes. It's possible or maybe somebody else costs Deanna or whatever. Like maybe there's a situation where Deanna's next story gets set up outside of it. But I'm so encouraged by the fact that we're still seeing these top names on TV. Like I was so discouraged when Tyad Valkyrie would come over and then she was just gone or whatever. Like there's a concerted effort there. So knowing there's plans in place for these women makes me happy. But I get what you're saying. Like she's too important of a wrestler to be taking too many else, but I'm willing to see where it takes us. So there's a segment where Roddy Strong points out the photographic evidence of his foot, not only under the ropes, but literally touching the ropes. And Aubrey having to contort her body to the absolute opposite facing the absolute opposite way. So she could not see it. And then steps over Roddy Strong's leg to make sure-- she's like, oh, hold on. There's a thing in the ring. I've got to step over before I can go ding, ding, ding, ding. The ding, ding, of course, is paramount. But I love that Hook stepped in and was like, yeah, hey. I watched the tape back. I saw that your foot was under the ropes. That sucks. Somebody should have caught that. So how about this? You and me for this title tonight. And Roddy says, no, not in a scummy city like Milwaukee. But he also didn't say, I'll do it versus you on the zero hour at pay-per-view in Chicago. He said, I'll call my shot sometime eventually. Remember that time where he was like, you and me, orange Cassidy, in 12 weeks time. I shall face you. He called his shot for revolution when it was in still in like early January. We were like, wait a minute, hold on now. You could have the match next week, I'm pretty sure. But he ended up winning that match. So maybe it works out for him when he says, I will face you several months from now. He does needs a lot of time to prepare and respect that. He's very self-aware wrestler. But yes, that was a pay-per-view where there was some overcorrection of the criticism that the builds aren't long enough. There were a couple of things that I was like, we know this, a full business quarter in advance. So I think that's an excellent choice for Hook to move on to. I think not only stylistically, but the experience of Roddy, you want to talk about actually learning under alertic trade. A match with Roddy Strong I think will teach you a lot. And we did get a hook on this as well. We did. We did. Kordoso, what do you think of our Hook and Roddy Strong segment here? I thought it was fine. I mean, I see what they're trying to do with Hook that really trying to build the star power. And when you put them in with someone like Roddy Strong, who is insanely talented in the ring and could really-- they can really put a good match together, a brawler in Hook versus a stylistic wrestler like Roddy. That oil and water eventually mixes pretty well. I hope it will. And they are both really good at choke holds. So we'll see where they go. I cannot think of a bad Roddy Strong match like ever. And then I cannot. And since they turned him serious, he's just been on this invaluable and kind of understated run. His match with Kyle O'Reilly was at WrestleDream. And people aren't talking about it as much because that was also Davidson and Will Osprey and where Swerve won the title. But that match was incredible. So very happy for Roddy Strong and the work that he's been doing. And this is a logical next up for both of them. This fits in perfectly. Yeah, I agree. We are getting more of the mocks thing being revealed little by little, the littlest being them walking through and finding the skinniest security guards in all of Wisconsin for Miranda Shafir to judo throw all over the place. Those men wait on. Those men were Darby Allen sized. Maybe that's it. Maybe Mox is preparing for his big fight with Darby Allen. So he says, I need to make sure that during my match with Darby Allen, Marina Shafir is there to throw Darby Allen all over the place. So she's got to practice with fellow guys who are 115 pounds soaking wet. So that's what they're doing. But she beats the ass a bunch of skinny security guards. And then as they're walking toward the ring, they come across the elite. And Moxley stands face to face with Jack Perry. He says, I don't care what anybody says. You're a sweet kid. Keeps walking. And I'm in on everything John Moxley does ever. This tremendously so, unless the thing is happening, that people are telling me is happening, that he is going to recruit Darby to his cause. And that'll ruin this whole thing for me entirely. But I don't want that. But I do like him saying, like, hey, Darby, you're very special. I could tell you were special when I beat the piss out of you and you looked up at me and smiled. You're a very special kid. So I'm willing to give you a little longer. I have patience now. I won't forever. Don't make me come looking for you. Darby Allen, I would like to talk to you. For now, I just want to talk. And I don't know where-- it's weird to me that he's singled out Darby over everybody else. Because we don't know what his motivations are yet. So also, I figured every time we saw him, he was going to add somebody else to his little gang. I like that it's just him and Maria Shafir. But I feel like there's more to be added. So yeah, we'll see what this is. But I love John Moxley. And anything he does is good, unless it involves Darby Allen being on his side. I think it'll be Darby Allen versus this stable. That seems like it's inevitable. Lance Archer-- it was very funny. On Collision, Lance Archer had a very similar style situation. So what we saw on last dynamite where he was throwing people around and then did the same John Moxley staring into the camera, slapped the side of the camera thing. And somebody replied to me on Twitter and said, it's hard to tell if that's an indicator, though, because Lance Archer is always just randomly throwing people around, which is a very fair point. That is kind of his thing. But it feels like it might be headed in that direction, also Dutch and Vincent from the right to tweeting that they always liked that John Moxley cat would be an incredibly interesting little stable. And they wanted to make that a whole thing, but also make us understand why John Moxley is speaking so vaguely when he's usually very, very direct stylistically. That would make a lot of sense in calling out Darby to get-- he can go with Vincent, but him getting big boss man slammed by Dutch and getting his ass kicked by Lance Archer. Alex would love that part. [LAUGHS] As long as he doesn't somehow come from behind and win. That is the thing that I don't like. But this all just feels also very odd, because Danielson and him have this match already set up for Grand Slam, like him winning that title shot and the trajectories of the TBS title and how they've been interacting with what's going on in the main title picture have killed a lot of momentum for me. Darby already had the shot but loses to Jack Perry but has a shot at Grand Slam and Jack Perry has the mid-card title but is facing Danielson. And it's like, you need to separate your mid-card from your upper card. Otherwise, what are we doing? So I think that would help clarify the product quite a bit. But I love that idea. I love that idea of this stable with John Moxley and Darby Allen being the one that he'd tango with. Travel Valley is saying Marina and Archer both crushing randos in the back. They're made for each other. I like that a lot. I don't see-- see, Meet Norma says, "Hello, team sour clavicles, let's crank." This dynamite was a media and juicy. You had everything, which unfortunately has to include Jericho. So yes, we got a Jericho thing, I don't know, whatever. But he's mad still at Orange Cassidy four years later for dumping Orange juice on his dumb $7,000 blazer or whatever. And Orange Cassidy just so happens to have a match against Brian Keith for a spot in the Continental Championship match at All Out. They face each other on Friday. And Orange Cassidy shows up and says, tell you what, Brian Keith, if you could beat me on Friday, I will happily give Chris Jericho $7,000 in cash. OK, goodbye. Hi, Renee, what's up? And he leaves. So yeah, that's what we're getting here. I don't know, man. Just take him off TV, just please. Man, Orange Cassidy, this time last year, was main eventing All Out. And his best AW match ends. And Forbidden Door was wrestling Zack Sabre Jr. And now he's just like a guy in a bunch of multi-man matches. Like, I would love for them to appropriately heat him up. And by the way, they could do that in two seconds. Like, that guy is perpetually over with the crowd. And a fantastic wrestler at the end of the day. So it doesn't take a lot to get him going again. But I wish they would. I wish they would, because it doesn't feel like the follow-up after that international title ring was very good. So I would like for them to do more than have him. By Chris Jericho, because as I said on Twitter, I would pay $7,000 to not have a match with Chris Jericho at this time. James Zimmerman says, can OC pay him, but in singles? And Orion Ben says, no pennies. And he should pay him in pennies the same way he gave Orange News to him. Just dump a vat of pennies, $7,000 in pennies directly onto Chris Jericho. Now that might hurt a lot, but that'll make me happy. It's true. Yeah. Alex Cardoza, any thoughts on our Jericho and Orange Cassidy feud? I just thought it was funny as hell that he just goes up to, what's his face? And just Brian Keith? Is that his name? Keith? Brian Keith? OK, he comes up to him, and he's like-- sorry, guys, I mess up names all the time. Brian Keith, he's like, tell Jericho that I accept and I'll pay him. I just opt. And then I know Jericho passes his time, but it's just funny to see his facial expression behind Orange Cassidy as the camera just slightly pans a little bit towards the left, and he's just standing like, what? I honestly don't know half of the time how these guys can do this. This is why I worked behind the camera, because if I was standing there, I would have busted-- I just wouldn't be able to hold it together. I will say the big bill and Brian Keith parts of this are definitely one of you. They have impact on their comedic timing. And there are some people who this is for. Like, I've got people in my reply saying that they like to Jericho stuff, and good for them. Like, I like it when people enjoy wrestling. It is not for me at this, especially now. Like, it wasn't for me to start with. And now I'm just like, oh my god, let's get going. Let's move on. Conglomeration-- so I said, JP asks, do you think Orange will turn at the pay-per-view? I'm like, no, I just don't see that happening. I just don't see that happening here for this reason. There was a time where-- like, remember that time where he hit Trent in the back with a wrench? And that wrote Trent off for months. But they didn't really follow it up on him absolutely losing his mind and trying to murder a guy. So I feel like if they were going to turn him heel, that would have been the time to capitalize on the-- heretofore, unacknowledged murderous rage that dwells within the soul of Orange Cassidy. But they're like, just move past it. And now he's just a guy who comes out and does the thing, well, the pixies play, you know? Which isn't the worst guy to be. Like, that's a great life to live. But I've said for years, I think there's a very easy way to turn Orange Cassidy heel and that he could just be an apathetic dick. Like, the guy who is lazy and doesn't care is super fun, but you can turn that guy heel if he just stops giving a shit about everything. Right. That could be very, very fun. I think you would be doing that for a major feud, though, because that's a huge character departure from a fan favorite. Yeah. Meet Norma's informing us that the current temp at meet castle is 69 degrees. Hey. And nice. The elite have a little segment where-- I really liked this, like, man, he's come so far since Jungle Boy. He's wearing the furry boots, riding a dinosaur. He's an entirely different guy now. He's turned into a really good promo. I loved, like, he was like, I was in the ring when Brian Danielson first showed up in AEW. And then I heard that you were going to leave soon, and I said, man, I got to figure out a way to get in a match with that guy and wrestle him. And then, a year ago, I was sitting at home not knowing what I was going to do, and I had to build myself back up. I went to Japan, figured out how to be a completely reinvented myself. Then the top where he says, I had to sell my own shirts. And I was like, well, I mean, AEW wasn't going to sell your shirts, because they don't sell anybody's shirts. So it's a good thing you sold your own shirts. But anyway, but he did say that you could have helped me and you didn't do anything, which I thought was interesting. Without really saying it's like you were on the disciplinary committee. Yeah. You could have been like, if the other guy was at fault, so much so that you fired him, you could have called me and said, that wasn't your fault. I have recommended that they reinstate you immediately. But you didn't do any of that. So I'm coming to you for the almost a year of my career that was taken from me in this place. I'm going to take you out and I'm going to become the champion. And I thought that was honestly really well done, well pointed and all that kind of stuff. And then the young bucks say, hey, BCC, we're going to do whatever it takes to make sure that the title comes back to the elite. So this was-- I thought this was fine. I don't like this program, but I get it. Like, I get the purpose of it. I just don't like it. I also probably don't like this promo as much because I know that where he went to reinvent himself was how torture and they suck, so well done. But a well done and well delivered promo, I just feel like there's so many better options that you could have done for Brian Danielson at all out. But him working with one of the pillars or one of your brightest, youngest talent while you're in this title raid in a situation where we know Brian Danielson's not going to lose anyway. Decently enough done, there's just so many other more matches that I'm hyped for on the card. I'm sure by the end of all out, I'll be saying how stupid I was and that that was a million star match because it'll probably be great. I'm just not invested in it right now. But those two are both excellent in the ring. So we'll see what we get. Yes. So the Packpool Compaq Club fighting the Kong blurb brotheration. I'm just trying to read whatever. Kong broboration, I guess? I don't know. Kong-- yeah, whatever. Kong broboration. Yeah. Osprey and the kingle aberration. This is fun. But they have Danielson on commentary. And they ask him, hey, so about Pack, that's a new thing, right? It's like, yeah, Pack's great. He's a wonderful addition to the Blackpool Combat Club. And I was like, that wasn't what they were asking you. Like the last time he was in a room with you guys, he deserted you during blood and guts. What, God? What's the deal with that? How did this come about? And he just sidesteps the question entirely. And then, they just don't even ask. So what's up with Mox? Is he still part of the group, or did he talk to you about how he wants to murder Darby, or recruit him for his new faction of murderers, or what's the deal with that? It's like, this is the thing. This is why the wrestling journalists like Excalibur get a bad name. You got the guy right there. Ask him the tough questions, man. Don't let him slide. Oh, is that a heel hook? Yes, that is a heel hook. We know it's a heel hook. Ask him the tough questions. Well, the ExcaliburSelect.com, these F and Mark's Lisa Bali and Excalibur out here. My God, this match felt very long. There's been a couple of times-- It was. Early in the night, I don't know if they went home early on other stuff earlier. But this started way too early, considering they were always going to go for the full overrun. This has happened multiple times, where they've had a full overrun. And I'm like, I can think of ways that this could have ended on time. It feels like they're stretching out a two hour show into two hours and six minutes instead of we have two hours-- we have two hours and six minutes of content that we need to use this time board. This felt so, so long to me. But it was a bunch of fun. Man, Claudia was so special. There's just matches that I see him in sometimes. And this was one of them where I'm like, this is like a generational wrestler. And I don't know if he'll ever properly get his due. I'm glad he's a champion now, but my God, I love that dude. And yeah, I've had a problem with this glaring plot hole that back up back abandoned them. And I was kind of giving it time because I thought maybe this mock stuff was going to lead to that discussion. I guess it still could, but the way Jacob said just made it by it. Felt like they're just not going to address it. I hope that they do, because it's a big one. And it feels like of all people that would have an issue with the gel moxel, it would be the one. So that was very much on my mind, too, while watching this. Very fun match, very, very long. Felt like they could have ended this episode on time and cut a couple of minutes out here. Perhaps. Yeah, it ends up with Claudia-- well, Pac and Will Osprey brawl to the back. And they're out of those little thing here. And then we get Kylo Riley trying for, I believe, six and a half minutes to choke out Claudia with a guillotine. And Claudia trying to get out of it and not being able to. Finally, he does, with a pop-up into an uppercut. And then the swingy deal into the drop kick, into the temple, pins Kylo Riley. And then out come the Bucks and Jack Perry to attack Danielson, who's also in the ring now, with Yuta and Claudia. And finally, they are able to withstand that, get the upper hand. And then Claudia was like, you guys made a big mistake. How about this? I'm not doing anything at all out. Neither is with our Yuta over here. How about this, you and us for those tag team titles? And I was like, that is how you book a match for the third hour of Raw. That's not how you book a match for the pay-per-view in three days. There's a match that happens, and then some guys run in, and there's a beat down. And then they're like, hey, you and us are going to have that match later tonight. You don't do that for the pay-per-view. You know what I mean? Listen, that match is going to be fun, but I'm happy we're actually seeing the Bucks defend the titles. But for Jesus Christ, you had a two weeks to set up GYV versus somebody at the pay-per-view. If you do not announce that tomorrow, not tomorrow on Friday during the three-hour thing, so I get GYV versus FTR at the pay. I will be very, very upset. I will complain about it on the internet. I will be that upset. But Cardoza, what do you think of this match and the post match? I'm loving the way Pack will just attack. He's going to Huracan Rada with Osprey just because he's standing there and entering a room. And they're going to brawl to the back like this. That's fun to me. What did you think of this match and the post match? I thought the match was really good. The post match with Pack and Osprey just heading off on their own. There was so much packed into this episode, so many great little battles like this, like things that normally AEW hasn't done, they're doing. They're kind of pushing the boundaries a little bit in different ways of producing the show, which is great. When I think of Park, I just want to put this out there to kind of like put a bow tie on it. I think of him like a Moxley. I think of him now as an AEW wrestler. I don't remember a time when he was in WWE. I don't remember any of his matches in WWE. I don't even remember his Mighty Mouse character in WWE. What I do remember is the fact that ever since this man has moved over to AEW, through the pandemic, he had some of the most insane vignettes ever while he was stuck over there. He's had some of the craziest fights in AEW. And this whole thing with Will Osprey, man, it's just it's pure hatred and evil. And that's who Park is, man, deep down inside. Every time you look at him, his face, he looks like he's coming out of a screen like the grudge. - Except for when he's being all cute after dinner with the title, how dare you? - Yeah, well, he came out there, you know? He threw it in the biz, taken out with a little buddy. - He still had the face, babe, bro. - Cave, babe. - He still had the face and the attitude, but he was like, oh my God, raise his friggin' hand and long his little children. - Comedian of the time. - Play with confetti. - There's the brawl continues backstage and Park ends up doing a brain buster to Will on top of a roadbox. Which feels like, you know, ouch. - And so-- - Ouch, murder, et cetera. - Yeah, so that's good. All right, so this is obviously what everybody's here wants to talk about. - Alex, would you say the show was fire? - I mean, I would say, yes, I would say-- - Would you say it closed with a hot angle? - I would say it was lit. Do the kids still say lit? I was gonna say as the kids say, lit. - Alex, the chap was saying it before and the crowd there was chanting this, is arson. (clapping) - It was, it is, it is sexually arson and listen, I know there's no such thing as law enforcement, let's say, in the NXT parking lot. However, you burned down a man's house. I'm sure there are neighbors around. - Who knows if an ember just flits off into something, starts a wildfire, just like, who knows, man, it's basically, they're barely out of August, it's dry out there, man. - He says he wants to see the world burn. - I'm pretty sure the firefighters who risked their lives to try and save that place, maybe might want to, you know, press charges. (laughing) - This is our send chance, this also popped me before our nordid taver, but we do have quite a bit of super chats about this, so we can get into those, but I did just want to say that the story that got set up of swerve, I'm gonna, I'm gonna come in with a comparative hot take, so brace yourselves. - Okay, here we go, here we go. I don't know if that's allowed, hold on. - It's definitely not as a woman on the internet, but like, I, this worked so much better for me because of the emotional attachment that they built in in one day with what the house meant to swerve, and the, if you saw what was on social media with it, do immediately bought into the fact that like, wow, this guy just signed to make a contract, and he just got to buy the house that was for clothes on his back, Mustafa Ali bought into it, according to Sean earlier. - Ali bought the whole deal. - Bought hooklight and sinker, Mustafa. - It's still real to him, damn it. - It is, and so when it was burnt down, it meant something, and all I wanted, and all the bracelet talk at WWE, was to know why that bracelet was something that was irreplaceable, that why it was different than the hundreds of other ones that he probably gets, that's all I wanted from that feud so that when Drew McIntyre broke all the beads over his body, I understood that I could empathize in some way. This is obviously on a much larger scale 'cause a felony was committed, but the big thing out of that is anybody who was like, he's still walking into the face tunnel 'cause he's a good guy. I think that conversation's over. He definitely knowingly did something wrong here, and when he went for it, he went all the frickin' way. - Yeah. When I saw the, they released it on social media, they showed the video package of Swerve and his childhood home and everything on the show tonight, but they released it on social media, and I was like, Swerve's gonna break into that house or something, isn't he, he's gonna do something, but everybody in the comments under that little video was like putting house-burning memes. Several people had the Randy Orton posed in front of the Bray Wyatt Family Home thing from years ago. Everyone immediately was like, oh, he's burning this house down. And it is funny to me that it is in a way, kind of, I wish we didn't go there. I wish we could be a little bit more like Mustafa Ali. And not immediately think the absolute worst thing was going to happen for a storyline, but, we're wrestling fans, and we watch a lot of wrestling, and so they set up something. Once, as he said, you screwed up. You showed me something that means something to you. - Great writing. - Which now I can take away from you. 'Cause I couldn't figure out, you're a hard man to find. I looked everywhere, I went through all four. I found some ex-fiancé who took your kids from you, but they don't want everything to do with you. They don't matter, but this matters. You just told me how much this matters to you. And also, now this feels like, this has also been wonderful long-term storytelling that I did not catch until he mentioned the language of. He kept on saying, I'm gonna burn his world at the ground. I'm gonna burn his, burn his world at the ground. - Set his dreams ablaze and things of yeah, like that. - Stuff like that, everything was fire imagery. And I just thought it was, you know, I'm out of horror for carrying his world apart or whatever. But no, he was like, no, I'm literally burning things, like houses, and this was really effective. But not as much as I think they wanted to, because I still see a lot of, hangman has done nothing wrong, even burning down a man's house. And so there are people who are hangman stands, and I get that, but like even the greater work, there's a deficit of empathy in this world. You know what I mean? Like if this, obviously it's all a storyline, and that's probably not actually Swerve's childhood home, but the idea of in the story, if that is exactly what Swerve told you it was, like put yourself in that position, and you wouldn't think it was frigging dope, or whatever people were saying online. And so I think that if their plan was, let's firmly make hangman the heel here for real. I think it didn't work with at least 40% of their intended audience, you know, which is weird. You know, like let's set up a thing in storyline that Swerve cares more about than anything in the world, and let's have hangman set it on fire, and that'll prove hangman's actually the bad guy. And much people are like, no, he's not. So we'll see, we'll see. - I think when they have their match, hangman will be the bad guy. - Oh for sure. - I think people just thought this was one of the most badass heel turns I've ever seen. So I think it's more people just being like, playing into the, the irony of like, or the cheekiness of like, no, he could do no wrong in my eyes. But I think, I think what's important is in story, he has now intentionally done something very wrong, as opposed to, he just had this viewpoint, that was the viewpoint of a heel. But really badass production, the fact that you could hear the windows blow out, and he just sat there. - Yeah. - 'Cause that's a shot, he's only got one take up, man. - No, you're not gonna do that one again. - That's a one shot deal. - You don't get to do that one again. - There was not like, maybe they edited it or whatever, but he didn't, he didn't jump at all. Like I was like, holy crap. This guy has ice in his veins. - Off the woodwork, I think really puts it in perspective, and this is a really well summarized thing. It's a really interesting story of a baby face getting his comeuppance for the things he did as a kid. - Yes, brilliantly said. - They don't do nearly often enough. And something that I talked about last week was Hangman was starting to show cracks in The Crazy. - Yes. - He put his hand around the throat of Karen Jarrett in that match a couple of weeks ago. And then all of a sudden, then he, whoa, that's not the guy I wanna be. And then when Swerve was like talking crap to him in their little face-to-face last week, and says, what kind of man do you really wanna be in the world, what do you wanna show your wife, your kids, who's his man you wanna be? And he had no answer for it because he didn't know what, like it felt like he was like, maybe it looked like he was reconsidering who he was becoming. But what he was actually doing is, no, I have to redouble my efforts. - Yeah, double down. - Because if this man does not know who I am, really? - Yeah, I'm gonna show him. And like that's a whole, you've gone so far off the deep end. There are certain things that heels can do in wrestling that you just come back from, whatever. This to me feels irredeemable. Like we're gonna have to really do a lot to like show who Hangman can be again to be the good guy ever again. This feels like you are firmly heel Hangman for a year beyond at least. Even when he gets out of this thing with Swerve, he's, you can't come back from this. This is a, this is a, there's no moral gray area anymore. - Well, I said to you, any Kingston tried to set someone on fire and you said, yeah, but that was Jericho. - That was Jericho. - So you needed to turn him face. You just put Hangman against Jericho. - Right, exactly. - That's what gets it done for you. - What's it gets done for me? We won't have to for everybody, but yeah. - Cardoza, what did you think of our explosive? - First of all, shout out, shout out to TK for buying house that he was gonna burn down. (laughing) Demand demand decided to buy a house that for a couple hundred grand and said, hey, we're gonna burn that down. - We're gonna burn that down. - Okay, secondly, I appreciate the extreme efforts that are going into, to change the narrative in the company with the storytelling, the storytelling that they've been putting this long-term story between Hangman and Swerve, which honestly, it can go on for a very long time. And I'm here for it, 'cause they can not talk for like a year and next year at all then, they could just meet up face to face again and it'll spark every woman who wanna burn your house. Okay, you know, like that was pretty cool. The scene, first of all, also whoever, I don't know if they're writing this or they're talking about it beforehand. The fact that he uses the words, you know, I don't need to be there to sign a contract. We know this match is gonna happen with Carlos. That's silly. Like, why do we need to do this? Like, this is why, and I'm gonna, this is, you wanted to set the internet ablaze by comparing two companies, Kate. Well, guess what? I'm joining you in this blaze of glory as well. (laughing) Okay, this is why I enjoy this company more because they're, the way that they talk and the way that they put these things together are more realistic to me, realistic as in the sense of like, you know, why would you need to sign a contract when you know the match is gonna happen anyway? Great effing point, okay? And many other things that they do very well when they talk, right, like back and forth. It's more adult-like, like, that's how we talk. We don't talk like a seven-year-old and a 20-year-old. Okay, we talk like grown-ass adults. (laughing) And then last, but not least, the iconic gangster rap shot of "Hang Man", drinking his beer with the cooler on the ground, with the house ablaze behind him. There's the picture that they just put out. It is the most iconic, cinematic thing I've seen come out of wrestling in years, okay? The bloodline stuff is cool, but that's all in-ring. That's all happening in-ring and on screen with vignettes of family members. What happened today in real life burning down a house with a man 15 feet away from it, which you could probably feel the heat coming up his ass, okay? Windows blowing out, the crackle, you can hear it, okay? And just sitting there sipping his beer, they sold me. They sold me. It's crazy that in this feud, the most boundless death match I think I've seen is like step two. (laughing) You know what I mean? They were spitting out each other's blood and this has elevated from there, logically and beautifully, and there was a double turn in the process. So I've said it a couple times now, but bears repeating in my opinion, unbelievable to me that hangman has been in what I consider the two best men's stories told of Kenny versus hangman and now this sort of hangman long-term story. And in one, he was the purest baby face you could have and then another, he's committing arson, like that, but he's also the same guy that was on both sides of that coin. Like he's two sides of a different person that is best and that is absolute worst. Most of the sudden look at his most alone. Like, ah, God, that's good stuff. - The subtle look as he's walking with his selfie stick around the house, just talking, you can hear something in the background, you can hear pouring, but you're kind of still can't make sense of what it is. But then all of a sudden, as he answers one of the rooms, you see him go like this and you see the kid in the background and the people are like, oh, we get it, even though we all knew. And listen, my last thing on this, you guys can do, move on, is the fact that when I saw the video come out, I posted two tweets, okay. The first tweet I said, they're gonna burn this mother effort down to the ground, aren't they? And if they do, you better pass on that chef's hat to TK because that man is cooking, all right? If this is where they're gonna go because I sat there - And a meth lab underneath this place. - I saw that video, yeah. I saw that video and I was, I got emotionally into it. I was, I bought in, okay. And then the second tweet I said I was, and if this is, if this is not storyline, and this is something that he actually did make congrats 'cause this is really cool. So I, I, kayfaved myself twice. - Yeah. (laughing) - So whenever a wrestling company has done that to me, I know I'm in love with pro wrestling because this has not happened in a while. Okay, I think maybe since like the WCW days with the NWO coming in and taking it over. I think that was the last time I felt, and it's crazy 'cause I was a kid, I was a teenager. And today I felt that same feeling and energy I did when I was a kid, 'cause I didn't know if they were blurring the lines or if this was real. - Right. - You and Mustafa Ali, both. - Yeah, we, damn. - Well, we've got super tents like crazy about this. - Yeah, I'm gonna read all of them. A.W. Women's Division blog says, "Quite a lit, no home show." - Ah. - Get it all out, huh? - No home show is. - Shightown Spurs says, "We'll wash in the booker of the year." (laughing) JP says, "Someone might want to tell a hangman to Laylow. "He may or may not have committed a crime." Oh, he definitely committed a crime. - Yeah. - Yeah, for sure. - On camera. - Roderick Wildman says, "Will people have been asking me "about the missing pyrotechnics A.H.W. TV? "Gets pyromani accounts." (laughing) - Oh, yeah. Just Ricardo says, "They say vengeance is the best "is the dish best served cold, "but hangman served that issue up piping hot tonight." - Mm. - Yeah. Drew McIntyre, "You were the front runner for eight months, "but congrats to hangman page. "I'm a coming three-way four-hater of the year." (laughing) Sido Godows says, "Swerve and hangman "is the greatest feud in A.W. history. "Hangman's had a couple of those." - Yeah. - You know what I mean? He's had a couple of those. This is really, really great stuff. This is something we look back on in 10 years. - Definitely. - And go, like, "Oh, you weren't watching A.W. "during the time when hangman burned that dude's house down?" - Yep. - Our piece says, "Hangman and Swerve should main event "all in Texas." I mean, if they might come back to this feud after a couple months off and go back to it, who knows? Who knows? - We'll see. - Yeah. James Zimmerman says, "Howdy, y'all. "Can every pay-per-view build be only two weeks? "Because that was a lot of cool stuff "in 35 minutes at the end there. "Maybe too much. "I like it." Feeling drippy says with a bunch of fire emojis, "Hangman has officially now done one thing wrong." (laughing) Used to know, "Do nothing wrong. "He's now officially done one thing wrong." - That's what they were going for tonight, I think. That's what they were going for. - Yeah. "Saron Scott saying the pain face of Swerve in the ring "was perfect. "He was really selling that. "That was good. "Alpha Bill, I joined you in hoping "that there was a house full of bracelets." - Oh my God. - "Coist dawling says, "Unsanctioned lights out "steel cage match TK announced." Like, can we get more things in there? Can we just, "Unsanctioned lights out steel cage?" - Nana in a shark. - Dog collar match. - Dog collar, lumberjack. - Nana on a shark cage. - Lumberjack cage match is perfect. - Why was that fight that they had in WWE, Jericho, and Mox with all the weapons, remember that? - The Ambrose asylum. - The Ambrose asylum. - The Ambrose asylum, yeah. - That was when we got Mitch the plant. - Mitch. - And Mitch Norman says, "Will hanger and Swerve "lead to an exploding barbed wire match?" I mean, I don't know. That might be the only thing we have left to build to after this. - It's true. I don't know if they would do it again, but-- - No. Meet Norma says that my sicko mind wanted Eddie in his wheelchair and gas can rolling up to hang man, saying, "Sup, partner, gotta light." (all laughing) It says, then he says, "Virginia is for fire lovers." - It's true. - Ian are asking, "Did hangman murder a cameraman "like Randy did when he committed the same crime?" No, 'cause they made sure and had it be very believable that that was hangman's phone recording the whole thing. - Yes. And who does to them for that? - And they're a really great job with that because so many times you watch these things happening on location and go, "Who is filming this act of crimes?" - I'm not calling the cops. - And not calling the cops on it. I feel like-- - I'm sorry gasoline for like 10 minutes and nobody called 911. - Pieces says, "How am I supposed to take a WWE feud "seriously after this?" Hank and Swerve is on a different level from everything I've seen in wrestling before. I mean, I don't like don't limit it to WWE. This is now the standard. - Mm-hmm. - Yeah, that's it. - This is the standard. If you wanna hope for a possible feud of the year, you gotta make it this next year 'cause this is taking it this year. Whatever you wanna do next year's gotta top this. Try it. - But it is also like, that's what's so beautiful about wrestling is we also had a crazed Hollywood starlet in her understudy student or whatever as the other most perfect story, right? And there are people who are loving what's going on with Drew and Punk. And there were some great stuff before the bracelet. Like, it's really refreshing to have these longer-term stories built. - Yeah. - Luis is saying that Drake, better pray, Kendrick is not a wrestling fan effort tonight. Ellen, don't you know? (laughing) Shadow C says, "Damn, Prince Nana is a real estate agent." (laughing) Doesn't seem like it. And Jay Blod says this. Now, this is an interesting point. They didn't need to go here. The match didn't need it. Not fully turning hang, man, was the most interesting part of the feud. And I can respect that. But people are talking tonight, so it served its purpose, he says. - Yes. - And I agree. I also liked the gray area. So I wanted to go into the match and all out, not knowing who was going to come out as the bad guy, but knowing one guy was going to. - Sure. - Now we go into the match, knowing for sure, hang man is the bad guy. So we will see how the match turns out. But I gotta say, like, if this match is, if this feud is going to continue, hang man needs to get a win. He needs to get a win. You know what I mean? - Daytime. - Like, maybe the win is burning down the house. However, like in a feud, you can't have one guy win all the matches, you know. - Agreed entirely. And I get that line of thinking, but at some point, the gray area, I don't think they were there yet. At some point, the gray area becomes uninteresting. Like at some point, if it's going to go on this long, like you've got to have hang man be as bad of a guy, as Swerve was or more to pay off the hatred between the two of you. - Yeah. - Yeah. Roy Zhang says that Mariah murdering Tony with a heel is now the second best ending of Dynamite of the year. Never thought I'd see the day, 'cause that was an amazing ending. - Impactably, John. - Going back to the thing I was telling you about how Excalibur did not ask the tough questions of Danielson. JP says, "I'm pretty sure they asked about Mox "and I went dead air and then they started calling the match." I mean, press it, follow up question. Come on, let's get this down here. - Yeah, let's go. - These are important things we need to know. - This is my son, look out. - Hang man's, sorry, James Zimmerman says, hang man wins and then hang man ends Brian's career at WrestleDream. I mean, I don't know about that particular spot, but like hang man getting another Brian match and destroying him. So send him away for six months, you know? There's a little dad thing and then when he comes back he can do his little, you know, that kind of thing, but I don't know if I'd deal with WrestleDream. Dwayne is Pierre says, "Tips, ding-dings, and chocks, oh my." - Touching tips? - Touching tips. The ding-ding is paramount. - The ding-ding is-- - Um, meet Norma's, oh wait, here we go. So Mutina Curl photo explaining why I do not do the dance, 'cause you dropped me as council and I'm not dancing anymore, 'cause my heart's broken. - You weren't dancing before then. - Ian R, here's our fire puns. Ian R says, "Torching Team 2000." - Thank you. - Zach Seering Jr, bam, bam, back draft. Ian R says, "Speedball, Mike Blazing." - Very good. - The Pongy Vice says, "F," disco inferno. Ian R says, "Nation of Incineration." And meet Norma says, "Bam, bam, burn it, bro." (laughing) Hangman David Byrne says, "I am an ordinary guy "burning down Swerve's house." They meet Norma's, says, "Whose house, burnt house?" (laughing) Lieutenant Curl photo says, "This is arson, clap, clap, clap, " salute SGS, bros." Yes, yes, salute him. - Thank you. - "Love for Boost" says, "Alexis on fire." Or is that Alex is on fire, Alexis on fire. - Alexis on fire. - Alexis on fire. - No, "Alexis on fire" is a band. - Huh, what? - With Al's green? - No, no idea. Roy Zhang says, "Roman Candle Reigns." And E.N.R. says, "Adam Charcoal, baby!" - Very nice. - And then meet Norma's once regal to sing "The Roof is on Fire" and then we're outta here. - Guys, please leave a thumbs up on your way out as well. - All right, here we go. Now throw your hands in the air and wave 'em like you just don't care. And if you're not a square from Delaware and you got on clean underwear and your mama ain't on welfare, somebody say, "Oh yeah, oh yeah." Well, DJ's spinning on the wheels of steel. Like I didn't do a thing 'cause he is for real. He's cutting the jams with the wave of his hand and it sounds so fresh it'll make you stand sunshine. You'll hear the highs in your eyes, the bass in your face, the super DJ can rock the place, you hear bass, highs, trembling tones, he can't even cut the jams with the headphones. We all rock into the break of day, all the girls wanna give me a play. Now if your DJ rocks the break of day, let me hear you say DJ. Did I look up the wrong thing? We don't need no water, let the mother effer burn. Burn, mother effer burn. We don't need no water, no water, no water burn, no. And then Louise tells us that Willow will defend the CMLL Women's World title against Zooksies on CMLL's '90 First Anniversary Show. - So we know she's winning a Saturday? - Well, it's not for the title anymore. It's not for the title anymore because apparently CMLL bylaws refuse to put the title on the line in a street fight. So, Zach Simos says, I feel like we didn't start the fire, it could be used somewhere. G-S-E-S-A, it could be. - Well, we didn't start the fire, but hang band did. - All right, that's it. - That's it, thank you so much. - That's it. You two guys are gonna be on Tuesday talking about SmackDown. So I feel like I'm gonna be on Tuesday talking about whatever's going on in AEW. - Is it on Friday? - Friday, I'm at Friday. I don't know why I said that. - I was like-- - I said you two Tuesday, I said you two Tuesday. I said you two Tuesday, you two Friday. Well, if you're talking about SmackDown, now on Fightful Select, I'll be pretty much exclusive to talking about, I'm gonna be watching Rampage while talking about collision and then whatever happened on SmackDown will just say, this thing happened, this thing happened, this thing happened. - While watching-- - Likely the case, it seems like Rampage is gonna be a very big deal. We'll bake that to the review, but likely gonna be SmackDown. Watch Alex on Fightful Select for your Rampage and watch it along and SmackDown review, and you can catch me and Alex behind the paywall on this weekend. - That's right. - Doing an all-out review. So thank you so much for watching, have a safe and wonderful wrestling evening. If I improve your house as people, there's mad men out there. - You gotta do it, man, gotta do it. Make sure your insurance is paid up because if not, everything sucks. - When you need meal time inspiration, it's worth shopping King Supers for thousands of appetizing ingredients that inspire countless mouth-watering meals. And no matter what tasty choice you make, you'll enjoy our everyday low prices, plus extra ways to save, like digital coupons worth over $600 each week and up to $1 off per gallon at the pump with points. So you can get big flavors and big savings, King Supers, fresh for everyone, fuel restrictions apply. At King Supers Pharmacy, care is making it easy to get vaccinated. 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