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FRIENDSHIP IS DEAD! | WWE Raw 9/2/2024 Show Review & Results

Duration:
1h 4m
Broadcast on:
03 Sep 2024
Audio Format:
mp3

Sean Ross Sapp (@SeanRossSapp) review tonight’s episode of WWE Raw, including:

-WWE Intercontinental Championship Number One Contenders Tournament: Sheamus vs. Ludwig Kaiser vs. a mystery opponent

-WWE Intercontinental Championship Number One Contenders Tournament: Ilja Dragunov vs. Dragon Lee vs. Dominik Mysterio

-Alpha Academy vs. American Made

-WWE Women's Tag Title Contendership Match: Damage CTRL vs. Unholy Union

-Zelina Vega vs. Shayna Baszler

-WWE Women's Tag Team Champions Jade Cargill & Bianca Belair celebrate

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It's them to be Monday Night Raw. Listen, it's at 11 10 right now anyway. I started two minutes early thinking like, you know what, I'll get the jump. Denise always shows up right on time, right? I'll get the jump will be good. You know, like how some streamers probably much more wisely than us. They'll do the thing where it's like not just the countdown, but you know, they'll start to stream before the stream type of thing. And that helps conjure up viewers. It gives people time to tune in. That's basically, basically what I just did, man, bash a Berlin this weekend, Mr. Santi's app. And I did a great post show review, Fightful Select dot com. We'll brag about that later on. Leave a thumbs up, get your super chats and humper chats in. Our great moderator, Luis, is here, or not here, dammit, Drew is here to help us. I give up, man. I give up. I do, I do an hour long solo show every week on Fightful Select dot com. But man, I get, I get live and, and this one's in honor of Sid, I guess. Oh, man. Denise, mute you remotely, yeah, listen, let's not tell Denise about this, okay? Let's not let her know about this at all. Let's, let's, somebody says, Shawn had too much root beer today, brother. I am drinking a root beer. Aaron Garcia says wrestling is awesome. My grandfather passed away from a long battle battle with dementia. And this raw has, this community has made life a little bit better. Aaron. I know this feeling all too much. I lost my grandmother, most important person in my life to dementia a few months ago. And it is heartbreaking. And I send you my love and my condolences, hope that you're doing okay. Man, I hate to hear this, but hopefully that you hanging out with us brings you a little bit of comfort as I can tell you all personally, hanging out with you guys has brought me an awful lot of comfort during a very, very tough year. Talking about the Odyssey mystery, okay, I'll give you guys almost everything I know about this situation. So yesterday I get a text message from a trusted source that said, you should ask about Odyssey Jones. And I said, okay, regarding what? I believe they said something like, if there has been a shift or change in the approach with him. And I said, okay. And I did a little poking around, but then today it emerges that he is removed from the WWE roster page. I asked WWE in an official capacity if he was still with the company. There's any details they could provide. They provided no details. He was not brought to raw. In fact, I was told he was chilling on Xbox today playing video games. People that I talked to said that they hadn't heard from him. He was not factored into the creative today. Was not in the rundown anything like that. So as things stand, I don't have a firm answer on what the hell is going on with him. We're working on it. We are working on it. We did get some firm information on WWE live events, FightfulSelect.com, my friends, best $5 in the business reported some details behind the live event schedule. So Cody posted his schedule as he often does, right? And a lot of people were like, whoa, where's all the house shows? Because they're only two and they're the end of the month. Those are the only two United States house shows that are set for September, October, November, and December up until the holiday tour because they do have the Orlando date that goes head to head with World's End. And talent haven't been told specifically that house shows are ending or anything like that. But they are going to Europe far more often. The live event business is way more lucrative overseas for WWE than it is over here, but that holiday tour isn't going anywhere. Now the talent are very happy about this, obviously, they're very excited about it. But so far I haven't gotten a lot of clarification from WWE, but this is something that they had thought about doing back when the pandemic started or before the pandemic started. They had looked into maybe slowing down the live events and that would help control dates and all that stuff. So I think that this is something that has been a long time coming, a long time coming, but talent are very happy about it. And Grace says, "Happy birthday, SRS, and Mrs. SRS, happy belated birthday to you, you and Beau share a birthday." Well, happy birthday to him as well. And thank you all for all the birthday wishes. Joseph Grace says, "First time chatting in a long time, hope you're doing well, SRS. I am. Thank you." With Julia now officially in the NXT, how soon would you expect Roxanne Peresek called up and which show would you have her on? I think Raw would need her a bit more. They need singles contenders, big time, big time. And I think Roxanne Peresek can do that. A lot of people looked at the Roxanne Perese stuff and they said, "Oh my gosh, they're turning her heel and look at how she's done as a heel. She has killed it. She's been a natural." Now, it's easy to be like, "Well, why do that?" Because she has such a natural baby face and she's really great at it, but man, she's going to do great. And then they're bringing in Delta, they're bringing in Stephanie whenever that visa situation is rectified and she's good to go. We'll have some more news on that on FightfulSelect.com coming weeks, something like that. But they're about to reload. And as a result, you need the women's division on the main roster to reload. And let me tell you, I've got my issues with some of the booking there, but we'll get to that. I think personally Raw could use her. But I mean, you saw what they did with Lyra as well. Like Lyra looked like she was on top of the world. Mick or Astromick says, "I'm a little embarrassed to admit I've never heard of Joe Tessator, but he's a fantastic addition to the Raw announce team." Yeah, I mean, I see some people like this fucking nut job that's in my chat right now. I'll do respect to him. Slow mode! Are people here watching an entirely different show tonight? Listen, man, I get it. You didn't like Joe Tessator. To me, it was the first night that he did pro wrestling commentary and pro wrestling commentary is unlike any other type of sports commentary. I felt like when he did the play-by-play commentary that he did an exceptional job, especially for the first night. If you're grading that on the curve first night, I thought he did really, really great with the play-by-play. There were some little things like in Vince's era you would never hear somebody say, "He's on top of him." And if you ever listened to Bruce Prichard's podcast, he would tell you pronouns. Make sure you say Drew McIntyre is on top of CM Punk, et cetera. The opening segment I was admittedly a little bit worried about. When I heard his reaction to Rhea hung upside down, I was like, "Eh, not quite hidden." But then when he was calling that match, I was like, "Okay, that's the guy. That's a guy that we want doing this." All for that, absolutely ready for that. Now he'll pick up things like dead air and reusing words and things like that. He'll come around on that, but Kim Gray says, "You've got to give Tess to her more than one night." Yeah, absolutely got to give him more than one night, for sure. Jonathan Corona says, "Heading home now, just landed in LAX, watching Raw on the airplane and not going to lie, I think Joe did a really, really, really good, good, good job." Yeah, again, I thought he started rough, and the playback play was very good. I think he's only going to get better. Listen, I've got a soft spot for him anyway, because I'm a Fight Night Round 3 fanatic. I almost bought a PlayStation 3, was it, recently, just to play that game again? Listen, if you're not playing that game and bumping the A contract on there, I don't want anything to do with you. You need a new boxing game. I think one's coming out next month, yeah? KE 775 says, "Did I honestly get in trouble, can't recall a talent just getting erased from the superstar page? So perplexing." Well, I know a lot of people were saying, "Well, possibly it's a glitch, it was not a glitch." It absolutely was not a glitch. I mean, unless they took him off the page, didn't bring him to Raw, and completely removed him from tonight's creative plans as a glitch. Passion, drive, and patience. The formula for winning championships is also what keeps your ride or die alive. eBay Motors has everything you need to maintain your vehicle, and level it up to peak performance. 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Well, I mean, WWE would likely be interested in him in general because of his star power and because he's good him, because he's in AEW. I mean, that's the reality of it. They have shown that interest. However, I don't know necessarily how long is left on his deal. I've heard some conflicting things. I'm not sure Ricky knows. I think Ricky probably doesn't worry about that type of thing. Now, he says he's never turned anything down. I heard that he didn't want to beat Big Bill, but I don't know if that was something pitched to him, but he didn't see how it benefited anybody there. Ryan says, "Shawn PWInsider reporting that Jason Robinson departing WWE and Michelle, I don't know who that is, got cut, can you confirm either one of these to be true? I will confirm them, but I'm not familiar with those names, I'll have to see what their roles are within the company and I should be able to get them confirmed by the end of the night if they have departed the company for sure." For sure. 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It was, there were heavy booze here, and I'll tell you what I like now. Last year I got so much shit from people who were just being obtuse because I said, and Dominic gets a good reaction, why do they also pipe in booze? And I saw people say, oh, I'm here in the venue, it's real. I'm like, oh my God, why is it this difficult to understand? So for those that don't know, WWE long has put a blanket sound over like their production, like of chatter and, you know, noise and all that stuff. More places should do it, like AEW and TNA and all these places, they should do it, but under Kevin Dunn, they would do these weird, not good sounding, piped in booze, cheers, all that stuff, even when somebody like Dominic would get really great reactions. And I'm like, oh my God, now sometimes you're able to do it through the speakers, but usually they lay it in over top the broadcast, and that's why it would sound so weird because you wouldn't know exactly how, that the talent there would be reacting to the in-house booze, not the fake, laid over top booze. And I haven't heard of them doing that since Kevin Dunn left, which makes me very happy. Now there was, there was a funny one, because it's so weird because people are like, no, they would never do that. And they did that during the Thunderdome era for the love of God. And I would hear, I would hear about how during the pandemic, they would put louder cheers and louder booze for the people specifically that Vince wanted over more, so you can go back and look at it then too. But like Dom has never needed that, a man has never needed that, a dude is, he's getting that reaction, he's a heat magnet and lives along for the ride as well. Now backstage, Priest says to Rhea that Finn Balor will only face him in a tag team match and Rhea Ripley says she's got somebody in mind, you know who it is. It's JU, so later on, he gets that, or Damien Priest gets that confirmation as he had run Dominic off from another match, which we'll talk about momentarily, but Dominic was involved in an intercontinental title tournament match, gets run off, and then eventually Rhea's like, yeah, yeah, he's down, he says yeet. And I like the element with Damien Priest and JU so because Damien's like, well, I'm glad that he said yes, like I'm really glad that he's on board and everything, but we got an awful lot of history, so we need to talk about this. And I thought that Jay's approach to this was very good. I thought this was really, really good because he's like, Damien, you don't have to explain yourself. Always had respect for you, but I was you. I had no friends and nobody trusted me, and I am going to be sympathetic to a person who has been in my shoes. I made a whole bunch of bad decisions, you made a whole bunch of bad decisions, and now you've kind of understood this isn't really the way that we need to do things. So all is good, let's get on the same page, plus I'm doing a solid for Rhea. I thought that was a really great way to close that logic gap, because man, as long as this stuff makes sense, I'm probably going to like it, like I've got pretty low standards for enjoying stuff. I love pro wrestling and I want it to be, I want it to make sense, man. And that's, that's something they went out of their way to do. They went to make, make it make sense. Dream Ninja says Rhea got the biggest pops of the night, including Punk. She has to be top three overall stars in the company right now. I mean, she's up there. I don't know about top three overall, Cody, Punk, Roman, but Rhea is consistently like right up there when I see merch charts and stuff like that. By the way, by the way, those like top merchandise seller lists that you all see like on Twitter that for some reason, omit Cody Rhodes, those are completely factually incorrect. And I've told the people that post them, Hey, these are just top seller estimates. Anytime you hit the top seller button, it'll take you to a different thing. I mean, the, the fanatics, the, the head of fanatics has been on record saying that Cody's the top merch seller. And listen, that's, I had people say, Oh, you're a Cody Homer. You're burying Roman. Man, I reported those for three years when Roman was on top and I didn't hear people saying that. It was just very, very unusual and right now, Cody's the top merch seller long and short of it. So later on, we ended up getting Jey Uso and Damien priest against the judgment day. And of course, you know, Liv gets involved backstage, Rhea is nursing her knee. She's on crutches, all that stuff. Rhea did the swerve at the end where she came out hobbling and Liv got in her face. That was a good moment for heat. I like that Rhea is consistently street smart. It's a thing that the Legion of Doom road warriors used to do a lot where just because they're bigger and stronger, like doesn't mean they can't be beaten, but they didn't want to be like outsmarted the, the Legion of Doom would do the thing where, well, if we look dumb, then that's not going to get us over. It's not going to get us over. So when he says people say Cody leaks, shirt, sale numbers directly to you, I don't see the numbers. I see the charts and no, he does not. And if so, I mean, it wouldn't, it wouldn't have made sense that we got those for the three years prior to him getting into that. It's like when people said that like, die Jack leaked me everything. And I'm like, man, I've been getting raw and smackdown rundown since 2018. You've been getting those merch charts since like, I think 2019, the Fox week was the first time we got those. Yeah. Yeah. And man, even when Roman was, even when he did the big dog thing that wasn't so good, man, he was still selling merch like crazy back then. So Jamie and Priest end up winning, they have really leaned into the JD McDonough having a big ass head thing, crowd was chanting, Bobblehead, he does the headbutt. I love how commentary will always be like, Oh my God, whenever he does a headbutt, it's phenomenal. Like they sell it like somebody got like blasted for the shotgun, man. It is a fantastic, fantastic. We got Will Chisholm saying, have you heard if Kyrie is okay, Austin saying is Kyrie okay and Darkstar saying probably too early to know any update on Kyrie's status after that table accident looks like she lost an eye. She didn't lose an eye as best I know. She was getting checked on backstage. I don't have an update yet. We're going to work on it. I mean, I would be shocked, shocked if she wasn't like in a situation where she was stitched up or, you know, probably taken at least a few weeks off after that that one, that one was tough, man, like that was a nasty spot. Let's go ahead and talk about that. This is definitely where a tesitor needs some more experience for sure. He mixed up EO Sky and Kyrie Sane, but Alba Fire and Ilodon end up getting the win here. Kyrie did that dive off the turnbuckle and hit her face on the corner of the announce table and it looked gnarly, man. It looked rough. Um, woof, bro, like I just hope she's all right. I love the match. I mean, Alba and Ilod have been given, have been given a little bit more of an opportunity of late and I think they're doing pretty good and I mean them being in damage control is nothing to like, nothing to, to just pass over like they were, they were a very, very consistently pushed team, but I mean, now we are already just a few weeks into something has got a change with damage control and they're losing top contender matches to the people who just lost the tag team titles. Now granted, after the performance that Alba and Ilod had at Bash and Berlin. I think that, you know, they deserve more of an opportunity. What I want is more substance to these stories and I can carry this right over into the pure fusion collection collective situation where Shayna defeated Zelina. So they, they had developed this a little bit, but so much of these stories that happen are, oh, there's a post match attack or they run into each other backstage and there's a, there's an attack. There's an attack. I want to see different stories and with the women, I think it's far more easy than with the men because there are a ton of stories that have kind of been done before with men that those particular stories haven't been broached with women. Now you've seen Shawn Michaels do it a number of times in NXT and I think it's worked pretty well. And you know, people that have been watching wrestling for 20, 30 years will recognize that, but let's be real. There's a whole generation of fans that aren't necessarily familiar with those story beats. Now also, when you would reuse a storyline in Shawn Michaels day, there probably wasn't footage of it, right? And now everybody's like, hey, Shawn, we saw you doing that. But Shayna defeats Zelina and like, I like all these performers, like I like Shayna and I like Sonya and I like Zoey and even Zelina and Lyra. I want them to, to give me a reason to be invested in them. Not just liking them, invested in them. After the match, Sonya called everybody pathetic, said there isn't a woman in the locker room that can take them on and not a man in the crowd that can take them home. And she wants someone to step up. So after the match backstage, Lyra is talking to Zelina and she's like, oh, we're in Calgary next week. I've got an idea. So FightfulSelect.com had reported a while back, Natalya had re-signed with the company on a multi-year deal. She actually re-signed before her deal was up. They didn't want her to hit free agency. She had really weighed the options of going elsewhere, but they came to a really great deal. But I just love that Lyra is like, I have an idea. And the idea is to make Natalya fly seven hours from Tampa to Calgary, because she don't live there anymore, friends. She doesn't live there. She's got a pool. She is chilling in Tampa, my gosh. And as Angel points out, didn't Nataly agree with Sonya about change? She said enough is enough and it's time for a change. 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Stephen says, do main roster women need another singles title? I don't think so because I don't think they book contenders well enough for the top titles. I don't think that they do enough in giving them wins. Like, again, Michin, I think she's been killing it by the way, but they put her in a title match with a woman that's beaten her twice this summer. I was like, okay. Maddie Maney says, please make it make sense. They had lived run away from a one legged Rhea. Well, she wasn't one legged by the time that ended, right? Like she threw the crutch away and got beat with a crutch. She was running away from that. Like, listen, I saw somebody and not, not to bury this person because I understand they're passionate about their favorite wrestler. I get that. But I saw people say, oh my God, Rhea can kick out of oblivion, but live can't kick out of the riptide. I'm like, would you look at Rhea Ripley? Not everybody is that. Not everybody can be that and not everybody needs to be that. You need performers like Liv Morgan and Liv Morgan plays her role wonderfully. And people are like, Rhea was limping, right? It's Rhea Ripley. It's Rhea Ripley. Think of Brock Lesnar O203, my friends. That's what Rhea Ripley is to this women's division. Wilchism says, did Asuka just get her new deal or has she had it? It wouldn't surprise me if, well, okay, so the Nikki Cross deal came together over the summer, the one that we had reported on Fightful Select.com. It wouldn't surprise me if that was a thing where Asuka got her deal like within the last month or two, but she got re-signed to another multi-year deal with WWE. PW Insider reported that and WWE is locking him down. Lots of contracts up this year. Lots of contracts. Terry Allen Jr. says his Damien Priest soft-spoken. He is, he is sincerely one of the coolest human beings, period. He is a joy to do media with rarely will you all hear of us say that somebody's bad to do media with, but I've been a couple, I've been a couple, but Damien Priest is always great, man. Like he is such a cool dude. American made defeated the Alpha Academy. This had to happen. Just had to happen and Ivy got the win with the Dragon Sleeper. Before the match, Chad Gable told the Cree brothers that Ivy Nyla, he's sick and tired of losing and being laughed at by Alpha Academy. So one of the last times that we talked about Maxine Dupree on this show, we talked about her having some really, really bad performances. And I mean like really bad. I could say that, you know, on any given six to eight month period, I might not see a poorly executed WWE match on TV, they're very meticulous. And there were some really bad performances that Maxine was putting forth. This was one of her best performances. Maxine Dupree looked really good. And whether that be because they played to her strength or they went over the match more ahead of time, whatever it is that they did, this was I think one of Maxine Dupree's best performances. Not her best performance, played to her strengths, did things that she could do and do comfortably. I thought that she did really great in this role for what they needed her to do. And then Ivy Nyl beats her. So hats off to Maxine Dupree who has natural charisma for sure has natural charisma. But brought it in the ring today in filling out that spot of the match in which she needed to. Also, man, the creeds are insane. The creeds are unreal with how good they are. I listen, I think that they really missed the boat on a big explosive Otis baby face turn. And they had him break away and he didn't really whip Otis or Chad Gable's ass. I think they missed the boat there. They had a real chance and I don't think that they capitalized on it appropriately. I want to see a keyword to Zawa do some NXT stuff. That's what I want to see. I would love that. After the match, Gable announced that American made once an eight man street fight with the Wyatt six and I'll go how he interrupted and he said it's been 375 days since his sanity crumbled and his life is no longer his own, he accepted the street fight for next week. So I mean, you can tell they're leaning into the Bray style promo with Bo Dallas, which Bo Dallas is not as nearly as strong as Bray Wyatt in cutting those, but you hear the familiarity and tone. And it makes you feel sentimental and you can definitely see the familial connections there and all it cuts right to your core, man, cuts right to your core. But I think he's going to get more and more comfortable doing that. And I'm glad they're giving it a go. Glad they are. And I bet this match will be freaking bananas. Here guys, get in your super chats or humper chats and man, check out all the great stuff that we've got on Fightful over the past week or so. We had an insane number of interviews. We got Willow Nightingale coming up this week. We had David Finley, Maven, an interview I've wanted to introduce for so long like me and Maven talked about all kinds of stuff. I had a black label, pro crowning glory, which will stream live on Chris Van Bleett's YouTube channel. But like you've heard him talk about the Undertaker's elimination. I talked to him about the camera work behind it and what he was told to do before then. We talked about the surreal life, him maybe, maybe not joining TNA back in the day, not joining evolution, how he teamed with Goldberg on a live event loop and was told get the hell out of the ring after the match. Survivor Series 03, all kinds of cool stuff. Please check out that interview. Nick Nemeth, my first film of him. We have Mojo Raleigh, Janai Kai, just an insane number of interviews that we dropped here. Go show him some love, share them, leave them thumbs up, comment on them. I can't tell you how much commenting really, really helps us out. For every young Zos says, what indie stars free agent would you, free agents would you book if you were starting on promotion in Michigan, January 20, 25? Well, depending on his health, like it is Jordan Oliver, he's fantastic, man's Warner. On the women's side, man, it's robust, like Maggie Lee is there, Heather Reckless is there. There's a ton, Jay Rod's really good, Luke Curtis, I would probably have him stopping at like five or six people that haven't had a ton of exposure. Man, what is this guy talking about? This dude has just been waffling. How much is he getting paid for premium viewers though? Just because I'm actually curious where the money goes during, are you talking about having YouTube premium? Are you coming in here while people are super chatting and humper chatting and subscribing to Fightful Select and waffling at me over the three quarters of a cent that I'm getting because you subscribed to YouTube premium? Come on, what are you talking about? What are you, what are you talking about? I am not a nugget blackheart. You are a nugget. You are a nugget. Ryan says, any update in the lucha bros, when do you think they'll come back, or will Tony tack on injury time to Phoenix the deal? Okay. Pinta had told people that I talked to that his deal was already up a while back. I had heard that Phoenix's was up in September. Now I don't know if Phoenix's is up right now or if it's up in a couple of weeks. But if I were Tony Khan, what I would do is say, Pinta, come back, put over some teams, like one or two teams with your brother and we won't tack on injury time. I think that's fair to everybody involved, right? I mean, it looks, looks like Pinta was out there wheeling and dealing well before his AW deal was up, so I think that's fair. Rafael Garcia says, all right. Hear me out. Alpha Academy transfers to ChaseU. Thea has a new friend, Chase has TA, Duke has a sidekick, and Sean makes fat bags of cash. Rafael, I love this idea. I don't know where Alpha Academy sit right now in the tag team division. But I think that that would be a really good idea, especially saying we got new transfers. I think that's a really, really good idea. I think it's fair. Ryan says people forget Maxine got called up real early. Yeah, but that's a double-edged sword as well. Just because you got, I mean, for her, yeah, sure. How are you going to pass that up? But also on WWE's behalf, like they're throwing her into the fire, man. They're throwing them into the fire. And she might not be ready. Bruin says, do you see WWE doing more with Noah and Marigold? Yeah, I do. Boy, did Taveon Heights look good over in Noah? Like there are some little things like, you know, perhaps distributing the weight a little bit better on some slams and stuff. But God, almighty, Taveon Heights looked real good over there. Looked athletic as hell. Looked like a sure thing over there. And yeah, I would say the Marigold thing will continue. I mean, that seemed to be the line of thinking the whole time was that Marigold would do some business with WWE. CM Punk came out to celebrate with Denver. He predictably brought up Patrick Waugh, 96, all that stuff. He says he's gonna make a flight back with his wife, his dog. He says that now that personal matters are out of the way with Drew McIntyre, it's time to handle business. And he calls out Gunther after putting Randy Orton through hell. He said, Gunther needs to get used to cult of personality, you know, playing off the memes, you know, hello fellow kids. How do you do? Yeah, that thing. But as CM Punk celebrated, Drew McIntyre beat the piss out of CM Punk. Now with on the bash and Berlin review that I did with Santi's app, please check that out. Show it some love. I was like, now listen, man, CM Punk grabbed that thing, that bracelet and kissed all on it. He was like, snitchy, beachies. And that had been directly on Drew McIntyre's ball sack. Not only his ball sack, my friends, his very sweaty ball sack after an extended match. And CM Punk was getting awfully affectionate with it. And well, Drew McIntyre, knowing that CM Punk had done that, said, you know what? How about some more? Ripped it apart. Thank God he tore up that dumb ass bracelet. I am so sick of this freaking bracelet. And then just shoved them all in CM Punk's mouth, the beads, the ball sack beads. And then bam, claymore, punk spit them out everywhere. I love that spot. I did that with Shaza. She put candy corn in my mouth, hit me with a stunner, spit it everywhere. It's a good time, right? It's a good time. 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Plus twenty-five hundred that he washed it. There ain't no way he washed it, zero chance that he washed it. I think my favorite part of this segment was Joe Tessator after it was abundantly clear that it was Drew McIntyre goes, it's Drew McIntyre in a hoodie. Thanks, Joe. Oh God, Turbo says he finally broke the bracelet. Yeah, he did. It's Drew McIntyre in a hoodie. Amazing. So the beat down was phenomenal. Like first off, I'm glad that they got rid of that damn bracelet. Hell yeah. The obligatory CM Punk hockey reference is like a rib at this point. Referencing a meme is like a rib at this point, but that ass whooping was good stuff, brother. Some claymores and then CM Punk gets put on the gurney. Who knows? Like this is probably to write him off for a few weeks. So he's not on that to come to TV, but they're very clearly setting up for something for bad blood likely hell in a cell, right? I thought they did a great job here, especially with whatever bleeding from the mouth occurred there. Dream McIntyre and CM Punk keep bringing it whenever it's physical, whenever it's physical. Abraham says, update on Kyrie. I looked really bad. She posted a tweet with a thumbs up. Steven says, Julie, it looks like a legit ass kicker. Great hire. I mean, she, she works snug, my friends. That's something to definitely watch for moving forward is that woman works snug. Iliadragon have defeated Dragon Lee and Dominic Mysterio. Dominic ended up getting run off during this. Carlito interfered for Dom and then priest ran him off. It led to the back and forth few minutes with Dragon Lee and Dragonov. No relation there, by the way. But I thought this was really solid outside of one like little botch that they recovered from very well. I want to see these two go at it. I want to see these two in the lab together for a full match one on one. I'll do respect the Dominic Mysterio. I think he's great at his role and his is what he does there. But I think that Dragon Lee and Dragonov need to have a one on one match. But, but I understand that because of the way that WDB has consistently or inconsistently rather booked to Dragon Lee on TV, there's not necessarily a spot for that right now. Ryan says, do you think Dragon Lee is going to get regular time versus to appease the internet crowd would be fine with him tagging with Ray. Him teaming with Ray would be phenomenal in a great addition to that division. Like we mentioned Alpha Academy going to NXT as the transfers of Chase U for a little while. Well, why don't I have Ray Mysterio and Dragon Lee fill that void in the baby face element of the tag team division as we thank DRD for being a new member here. I think that would be really, really good. He's really a Dragonov winning, that's good in general because you want to keep giving that guy wins because he performs it such an elite level and you keep putting him in these big match spots because he's so good. He's so sympathetic, he's great at selling, he's really great at everything. But he's really, really good at being sympathetic, right? So you have to build him up, you have to give him these wins as well. He really ends up moving on, Nicholas says, when and who do you think beats every champion in WWE? There's too many titles to count, you can just do Raw since it's the Raw post show. Well, we will do that. Who are the champions right now, Goonter? I think Cena beats him, yep. I think Cena beats him. I think eventually Rhea beats live back for that title. Judgment day, judgment day, I'm going to go with maybe, maybe, no, not the creeds. I mean, Austin Truth has done for a while. You know, I kind of think that Rey Mysterio and Dragon Lee might end up taking that one and Braun Breaker, who I think that's a big TBD, brother. I think that is a TBD, I don't think he's letting go of that thing for a long time. I think eventually we might see Goonter versus Braun Breaker for the Intercontinental title again. That's how long I think he holds it. I think he holds it well past that. Sammy and Jay, Vin mentioned, Sammy and Jay, there you go. That would make sense as well. Jay Stone says Michael Cole was right about having a GM that makes him feel safe now, Raw is an unsafe working environment, Dre and Dragon and Rey need to win the tag titles. Yeah, I would be fine with them adding Sammy and Jay to the tag team division, but also like you're back where you were with Jay Uso. That's what keeps happening is Jay gets put in these big positions and like it wasn't the right time for him to be world champion. It's not the right time for him to be Intercontinental champion right now unless you are immediately ascending Braun Breaker, which we saw them interact backstage and oh, that was good shit, man, Braun Breaker saying, no member of your family has ever whipped a member of my family's ass. Even though they have, they definitely have Braun Breaker's like, that ain't changing buddy. That was so good. But Sammy and Jay in the tag division works and Rey and Dragon Lee works as well. Lucha Bros versus Rey and Lee, yeah, if the Lucha brothers come over and that was the thing that Penta wanted. He wanted to be on the main roster. He did not want to go to NXT and it was a package deal situation boy, that'd be good. And again, I think that's good. I think the Alpha Academy stuff is stagnant. No fault of their own and they would add something to NXT like they really fit that mold of NXT right now and a lot of people can learn from them and then Maxine can also get reps on anything on level up on NXT. All that. Someday we're going to get Julia versus Rhea. Oh boy, they will knock the living shit out of one another friends. Unfortunate news that Bronson Reed got COVID and was sidelined from tonight's show. Fightfulselect.com, the best $5 in the business or $54 a year. I reported that Braun Strowman rather would be filling in. He was listed and ended up winning, which, you know, I'm fine with as well. Sheamus, Ludwig Geyser involved in this. Pete Dunn gets involved, ends up helping things out. Braun Strowman had to profess that he was cleared and go get cleared and all that stuff. And Adam Pearce is like, listen man, if you're good to go and you're cleared, I'll let you do it. But I don't really want to. Pete Dunn attacked Sheamus, broke his chaletli, so you further that as well. Ludwig Geyser, I'm on board with him man. He had that killer match on Friday, undertakers on board with this man. He is delivering. He looks the part, everything. What I would do if I were an agent in WWE is stop, I would tell numerous people to stop doing the same spot. And what I mean is you have the Intercontinental Champion and two people in this match who do the, oh, I'm going to start running and charge up around the ring thing and then run into a move to you. One person, let one person do it. I mean, it was the Braun spot for a long time. The Braun Strowman spot, I feel like it's Braun breakers now, but he doesn't do it that much. The backstage segment was so good. Jackie Redmond goes up to Pete Dunn. And Pete Dunn is like, just tell him an old friend sent him a message talking about Sheamus. And Jackie Redmond goes, so should I tell him it came from Butch and he wasn't happy at all. Now they're very clearly conjuring up Butch Chance. They want you to chant Butch whenever Sheamus is facing him and listen, right now, WWE is very good at getting people to cheer the baby faces, boo the heels and chant what they want. Like right now, the audience is along for the ride. And when the show is cohesive and good, usually the crowd will do that. They revolted for a long time because the show sucked. But now that the show doesn't suck, they're like, no, well, we'll go along with it, sure. So I'd imagine he's going to get those chants. J. Miller says Sheamus done bad blood, Braun just looking odd. Listen, I'm glad also that Braun got a win in this situation as well because Bronson Reed is going to come back from COVID after just destroying Braun Strowman. But Braun Strowman should not be destructible. He's the guy that tears shit up, right? So I kind of like this and Bronson Reed has another reason to dislike Braun Strowman. Please leave a thumbs up. Get those super chats and humper chats in. People asking about Odyssey Jones, I updated that at the beginning of the show. Goother comes out. Tout of the historic gate number for W.B. Bash in Berlin. I'll have some more merch stuff tomorrow in the raw update as well. But he can now claim he's beaten the greatest version of Randy Orton and he's interrupted by Sami Zayn, FightfulSelect.com, best $5 in the business reported this today. So Sami Zayn wants a title shot and Goonter just says no. Sami Tons Goonter and saying he's the only person to pin Goonter since he's been on the main roster. So I'm conflicted on this. I am all for Goonter and Sami Zayn. Sami Zayn has beaten Goonter before. So it, you could at least make sense of it in that way, okay? Sami Zayn's beaten him before, sure. Last time we saw Sami Zayn though, he was losing back to back title matches. And I'm like, damn man, like WWE is getting far too comfortable with just not giving title challengers wins and then explaining it away. Like, either that was Kevin Owens, like his character was like, I don't deserve this. And then they did a good job explaining it away by Cody saying, well, you deserved it all the times you got screwed out of it. And then you had Piper Niven, who hadn't won a match in ages and meet Jen at least, you know, beat Tiffany Stratton, but had lost to Nick, lost to Nia Jax twice. I'm going to say Nikki Cross, albafire and Ilodon hadn't won matches ahead of their tag team title run. You know what I mean? Like, and we're looking at Sami Zayn and he lost to Braun Breaker, lost to Braun Breaker, had a DQ win over Dominic. Won the tag match that should get him a tag title shot, but no contest against Ilia Dragunov and then we're deep, we're already into his icy title run. It's like, let, since Goetheres said, no, let's get him some wins. And somebody says, Zelina as well, when she challenged Liv, exactly, like it's becoming too common. And I wins and losses are the core of everything because your prizes should mean something and you get those by winning them. And you should get your opportunities at those by winning them. Even if it's a gauntlet, a battle royal, a top contender match, something like that. It's been two months and Zayn got a pinfall singles win. Let him win. Now I understand we're in a situation where it's like, oh, well, he's goading him into the, I see, I see that. I mean, Randy Orton got a title shot just because he didn't get pinned in the king of the ring tournament and they made good sense of that. They're doing a pretty decent job of explaining to you why at least about half of these people that haven't been winning matches are getting title shots. But it seems a lot easier to me to have him win some matches, brother, just have him win some matches. I think that's important. They did a segment backstage by the way we're carrying cross told the Miz that he needed someone that he could count on and says that his truth is currently out by the way. Guys, if you're watching this, please leave a thumbs up. Please subscribe. All that good stuff. Boris says his swerve WWE story has been debunked. So the story was that WWE did not feel like swerve should have been offered that deal because it was above their perceived market value of him. I can't speak to that. I have not talked to anybody in the company that would confirm that, but I'm also not going to say that Dave didn't because I don't know. I know who people in AEW think it was that said that. Not ready to put a name on that and send vitriol their way without like nailing some down for that, but listen, swerve is getting paid very well. They've been working on this deal for a while and they wanted to get it done well before he had the opportunity to shop himself elsewhere. Guys, thank you all so much for dealing with me muting myself. I will be gone this Wednesday. I won't be doing the hump or the post AEW show. We have a different cast for the AEW show. I will be in Chicago at the Black Label Pro Crowning Glory show where they're doing a wrestler combine with a whole lot of like moose and Jordan Grace and Mandy Rose and the former Riddick Moss. A lot of cool stuff. It is streaming live and free on Chris Vambleats YouTube. We interviewed Maven and Mojo ahead of that and then in the weeds interviewed the former Emma and Madcap Moss and also beyond the bell at 10 a.m. tomorrow with Andrew Zarian. Make sure you guys check that out. Guys, thank you all so much again. Please check out all the interviews that we have on the channel because we have so many, so freaking many. Please show them some love and subscribe to FightfulSelect.com. We're out. A King Super's Pharmacy Care is making it easy to get vaccinated. 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