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And no matter what tasty choice you make, you'll enjoy our everyday low prices, plus extra ways to save, like digital coupons worth over $600 each week and up to $1 off per gallon at the pump with points so you can get big flavors and big savings, king supers, fresh for everyone, fuel restrictions apply. It's September 2nd, 2024, I am Atrol Pearl and it's time to get in the weeds. It's your monthly, Monday takeover. So we're here on youtube.com/fightful. As we always are at the beginning of every month, the first Monday of that month, we take over. Jeremy Lambert is here. I feel a little squishy today, I don't know what it is. Something feels like, feels like the walls have come in on me. I can't explain it, but how are you doing? We're very in the weeds today, we're really, really in the weeds today everybody. Yeah, we're surrounded by the weeds in a way that we've never been surrounded. Yeah, it's very strange. I don't know, we gotta dig through. We need to probably cut the grass at some point, again a little long. It's been over a year, before we know what, it'll be two years of this, of just being in the weeds and just letting it grow. The winter's gonna get here anyway, and once the winter's here, the snow will take care of the grass, and it will just not be visible for us. What if it doesn't snow? Then global warming has taken its course. Might not snow, you never know. What if it just doesn't, what if winter does not come? I'm pretty sure AW would be very angry if winter didn't come, considering every year it's been coming. I should hold the winters coming, and like, oh, Los Angeles. Bring it to Mexico? Yeah, that would be the funniest one. You know where they should have it? I think they should have it. In the Z zone, hello. I'm sick. Still? Fair. Today I'm much better. Oh my god! That was unfortunate, though. Got clean, clear my skin looks. They look good. They look good. The other part of that shot did not look good. No. I went on a cruise with all the mutants. I saw how most people live. I was disgusted, and I came back with COVID. No! First off, Andrew's area, nice eyebrows. These cruises. These cruises, apparently, are just COVID traps. My mom went on a cruise, and she got COVID. I'm going to say everybody should not go on a cruise. It seems bad. And I went on a good one. I don't go on the one that people are getting thrown off the boat. After this one, no. I don't think so. And I did everything to eliminate people from being around me. I booked a suite with a private access where the commoners can't go. Joel knows this, but Jeremy, do you know this about me? That I don't like to be around large groups of people. The reason why I leave the wrestling shows is because it gets overwhelming. I never stay till the end because I'm like, "Okay, I'm done." I get too grossed out by people. God forbid they're eating in front of you, too. Joel, you took the words right out of my mouth. I got on a flight. I got on a flight to go to Florida to go on the cruise. The man in front of me ordered the meat platter. This was a 5/30 flight from New York to Fort Lauderdale. The meat platter is what he started his day with. I was enraged. I was so enraged where you know, you see those videos where people are getting handcuffed and they're screaming about the alien on the flight, like I almost lost my mind. As loud as I possibly could speak, and I kept saying to my wife, I'm like, "You believe this effing guy? Who the f-order's a meat platter, 5 o'clock in the morning? He's sick. This is a sick person." And then we went on the cruise and I saw the worst of the worst. Do you drink before a flight or anything? I have to tell you, everybody assumes that I do. I do not like drinking on a flight. Okay. What about like before the flight? No, too early. 5 o'clock. I always get a 6am flight. I never get like a late flight, so I don't have an opportunity. Hold on. Time doesn't exist in an airport. You know that. No, I don't like drinking before a flight or on, you know, or on the flight. You know, I will say, I will say, I flew Delta First Class, they bring the champagne, you have to drink it, but that was it. I have a tradition, I have a tradition. I have a drink before every flight, just one, because every time I've had a drink before a flight, nothing's going wrong with the flight. So I'm going to continue to have my drink before the flight and hopefully nothing goes wrong with it. It's a superstition at this point, but I do drink before every flight. I get very morbid. I got a case of the morbs before my flight and I tell everybody, like, if this is the last time, you know, here, this is the password to my bank accounts, I have like two or three people that I like message that every time. I'm like, here's a password. There's a zip drive somewhere. Just just break the zip drive. Burn it. So let's let's let's keep everybody in practice. Let's keep the morbidosity. Yeah. But let's keep this going. See, I think I'll be fine on flights. I don't feel like that's how I'm supposed to die. You know what I mean, like, no, no, no, I'm not, no, no, yeah, like that's why I think like I'm okay to fly because I don't feel that's going to be the end for me. I feel like the end for me is going to be very stupid. Like I'm going to trip over something and just impale myself. I feel like it's going to be really dumb. I don't think a flight, a flight is way too grandiose for me. Like, yeah. It's like a heaven. And it's a little, you know, to think you're going to die. I'm like, isn't that a little like, you know, like you're thinking you're the main character a little bit like that's a massive way to go out, you know, like the odds of that happening. And like the fact that you think that that's going to happen very, I flew to Vegas with two terrible fliers. I, I brought to my staff members to Vegas for like an event we were doing. And I've never been so angry at people's inability to fly. They were crying like they were like scared. And I'm looking. I'm like, you're 24 years old. There's something wrong with you. I'm embarrassed. I'm so embarrassed for you. The first time I flew with my wife, we went to Cuba, and she's not she's thank God has gotten better. She's not a great flyer. And there was another part of it too. So her mom is Colombian and she grew up having to go to the airport super early because she would get pulled out of lines and put into interrogation rooms. Like they would never always be holdups. So my wife who is like of Colombian descent, but like is a white girl. She thinks that she's going to get pulled over by security everywhere. And she's like, we have to be there three hours early, three hours early. And I'm like, no, we don't trust her. And her compromise was like 90 minutes before Cuba. We didn't get pulled out line. Everything was fine. And then we get on the plane and she's like, as we start to take off, she's like grabbing my wrist. And I'm like, feel my wrist. She's like, I'm not a great flyer. And I'm like, that's good to know. Five. You know, everybody, everybody thinks I get pulled over through TSA because of the beer. Yeah. Yeah. You know, like everybody, everybody's like, oh, you ever have a problem at TSA? Like, do you like, I get asked this all the time. And I kind of find it to be like a little like, yeah, I'm like, why do you think I should have a problem? Because of how I look, what are you trying to say? And so I go through TSA, no problems ever. And I look at the Asia, I'm like, you don't want to pep me down. Like you don't want to. You decide. No, I'm like, I'm like, you know, I can have stuff in that bag. You don't know. Just because I smiled at you, but the people that I was flying with, I flew with Chaunty Hayden of formerly The Howard Stern Show. He came on the trip with us. Weird story. My wife is the God parent to his daughter. So he gets stopped everywhere that man doesn't matter anywhere, everywhere. They took his luggage. They went through his passport, like they didn't understand that he's coming from Ireland, like he's in America, like it was a whole thing. I think they should stop me. They don't know what I have in that bag. Yeah. But every time you want to do it, they're like, sir, this is pre-check, you're good. You've already done things. Yeah. I actually, what I did, my kids did not know I was going on those cruise. For three months, we kept it a secret. And I was able to get through TSA very easily. I just went and told them, I'm like, listen, my family's here because I took a different, I took a different Uber. I'm like, my family's here. They need to get through so they don't seem to be like, okay, no problem. Just push me right through. Okay. I get to the terminal, to the gate, I go to the gate, and I'm like, listen, my family's on this flight. They don't know I'm coming. I want to surprise them. The pilot's next to the pilot goes, oh, no, just come on with me. I was on the flight for 45 minutes. What are you doing? What are you doing? Why? What are you doing? That good old, that good old, very in charm. I just look and I smile and they're like, yeah, right, this way, come right in. They put me there. I was on the flight for 45 minutes. I mean, it was on it. What do you do at that case? You know, like that early is the weirdest thing, you pass the vibe check, the most important security. It's like this guy just got good vibes. He's good. I like his eyebrows. Let's just take them. You know, I will tell you though, do not try to give anybody a 20 at the airport. That is a big no, no. They'll let you through. Like they'll let you through. No problem. They'll do like one of those. Like I'm a good guy, no problem, but like the second try to slip them a 20, they freak out. Well, that's because much like, you know, time doesn't exist in an airport. Money is basically drugs in an airport. Drugs are also in an airport. Actually, they don't care about the drugs. I'm going to tell you. Oh, no. Everybody's going to now try this. You guys don't care. Andrew's area and reports, drugs aren't important in an airport. They said it's fine. Don't worry. They said it's okay. It's going to wind up on the podcaster, the mat manager. Andrew's area and the podcaster. Someone will be like, Oh yeah, no, he's the mat man guide that checks out. It's exactly. Are you going to be like every true red-blooded American today and watch. Kobayashi against Joey Chestnut. I mean, who is that what's happening today on Labor Day? Yeah. Because Joey Chestnut is no longer through the the Hot Dog Association, right? He's with a different group. That's right. That's right. He's part of Liv. The Saudis. The Saudis. The Saudi politician. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Amazing. Today's the first day. I feel normal. Oh my God. I got to tell you about this COVID. It was the most annoying thing in the world. This was COVID number seven, I think, for me. Seven. Now that checks. The Bill Russell of COVID out here. I never I'm going to tell you something throughout the pandemic. I was one of those people that were called COVIDiots where I went to underground clubs and bars and I was out drinking and partying the whole time. I had parties at my house. Never got it. Nobody ran me got it. I got the I got the thing in me and then all of a sudden I'm a magnet. Oh, I know I'm a candidate truth. That candidate is a myth. Not a real place. That is true. I'm looking out my window. You want to know how he's an AI. He's not even real. His country's not real. Let me ask you, can you can you fly to Cuba? Can I fly to Cuba? Yeah. You can't. But they say I can see there's a glitch. Wait, I'm pretty sure you can go to Cuba now. The Americans. No, no, I don't think so. No, I don't think so. No, I don't think so. I'm going to open up the trade with Cuba once again. Yeah, but I think Trump shut it down. Oh, Tilly. I think so. I could be wrong. I could make that whole thing up. Common. I can make that whole thing. Our political comment, people will figure that out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just want it in time. Yeah, I want it. It's Labor Day. Everybody's off here in the States. I want to make this a very political show. We're off here in Canada too. It's Labor Day as well. Someone in the chat was like, what do you mean? What do you Canadians call Labor Day? Where was this thing? Do you really have Labor Day? Yeah, what's Canada's version of Labor Day? Labor Day. With a you. Do you all have Labor Day? Yes, it's Labor Day today. Is it okay? Yes. Yeah. Today's a regular Labor Day. Wait a minute. Isn't it Thanksgiving in like two weeks? It is the October, I think 12th weekend is usually around there. That is absurd. That is really absurd that your Thanksgiving is in like in the early October. We need to align Thanksgiving. Christmas is the same. Why can't Thanksgiving be the same? Because Thanksgiving is not a real holiday. Thanksgiving is not a real holiday. Thanksgiving is not a real holiday. Some may argue with that with you on that point. I mean in Canada, it's not really a thing. It's a day off. What do you do for Thanksgiving? The same things you all do just a month earlier and with more history, kind of, I guess. Can I ask you about Canadian Thanksgiving? Do you guys still, I mean is it as like beautiful of a story as we were taught that the pilgrim came here and they sat down with the natives and they had this beautiful dinner and nobody slaughtered anybody? Is that the story you're told? Something, something Hudson's Bay Company, that's all I got for you. Do a little research Canadian friends, Hudson's Bay Company, there's a reason they all closed. Oh my God, I knew this today. Thank you for having me on. You're always welcome here. I hope you're feeling better. I do feel better. Today is the first day I feel really good. But yeah, the cruises are disgusting. Don't come in for a minute. That just sounds awful. I did it for the kids, I did it for the kids, the kids like it. The best part was when we got back. We had like a 10 hour time difference from the time of our flight to getting off the boat. So I just got a hotel in Fort Lauderdale for the day and it just laid on the beach and that was the best part of the trip. No, I didn't eat any. Could I eat me? What I eat? I eat nothing. Not that honestly, that's what I expect. I expect you to go to the buffet at the off hours and just hope no one's there. See if the can eat. I don't eat the face. I can't do it. It's a scabats. I can't do it. Too, too. Too gross. Hold on. Okay. You don't like to eat around others. You don't like others eating around you. Obviously family. I'm assuming family is a different situation. No, everybody in their own rooms, nobody eats in front of anybody. I don't want to see food in your mouth. All right, God. The children have to face the wall. All right. Well, the point I'm trying to make is when they do the assign like sitting times, what do you have to do at that point? What? Like on the cruises? Yeah, because when I worked the cruise ships, I didn't get the assigned sitting times. I was go to the buffets at certain times when you're allowed to as a crew member. I ate in the dining area, like the main dining hall with our reservations. I ate there. We did hibachi one day. I like to sit down and eat. I don't want to get my food. I don't want to buffet. I don't want food open in the air. Even like Las Vegas. Like I was like, oh, the Vegas buffets. You got to go to the buffets. I'm like, no, no, thank you. I did one. I did one. I have all these rules. Why can't I look by my rules? Why can't I live in my my my bizarre world? No one's telling you can't. We're just asking questions about how you survive within them. I also don't eat. Yeah, that's I eat. I eat one meal a day. Big meal? So I have actually I eat two meals. I have two eggs in the morning. That's it. And then I starve myself the entire day till about five 30. And then all I eat is protein. That's it. No carbs. So the guy who had all the meat is just like you, but that flipped ours. Yeah, but I told you I'm in a room by myself and I stare at the wall when I eat. Do you sit at this desk that you're sitting at right now just to eat your meals? Is that what happens? Yeah. It's even I sit like in this corner here. I stand right there. You move the title belt and you just plop yourself down. The titles are too shiny. The watch. I'll see it through the mirrors on the title belt. No. Yeah, it's no cruising for me. I'm only going back if I get paid because that's how I did it the first two times. What did you do? What did you do? You performed? It was with the party band. Allegedly. Oh, there are photos and videos. It's less alleged. So I know you're a musician. What kind of what I know like? I don't know why I've made it made up in my mind that you play like really hard metal. So it's funny because I like some of that music, but I never wanted to play it because it wasn't my style. But like growing up, it was like Prague rock and like Prague metal and power metal, which is kind of like uplifting fast music and by uplifting, I mean like the themes and the just like like dragon force for those who are in the chat need to know your your wife will clue you in Jeremy, I promise. But the music that I was playing on the ships because it's a party band. You're playing like all the bar stuff, the wedding stuff, like that style of music. You're playing all the the danceables. They want you to go and dance or you're doing like the the loungy stuff. You want all that stuff. So whatever I was like, it depends on the careers. When I worked Alaska, it was a lot of like beetle stones, you know, Chuck Berry. Yeah, like a lot of that stuff. And then when you're working more contemporary, then you start tossing in like by the decades, it just comes down to what the the age of the people are. That's smart. Thank you for changing that. The background Joel's getting so lazy now that we got these circles, he just abandoned all of our more rows and practices because he's so intrigued and so thrown off by the circles. That's right. I'm trying to center myself in the circle. It's fine. Let the circle be unbroken. It's taken me. Jason, that's a very important question, Joel. Do you ever form creep of the smashing pumpkins? Did we ever find out what Billy Corgan's big announcement was? Yeah, they announced that they're playing creep. Do you see Aaron Queens a couple of weeks ago? That's unfortunate. I think he performed here. I think it was him in Green Bay. Yeah, they did Oshega as well in Montreal. Yeah, they were a city field. The big revelation was when Billy came on my show, he told me that unfortunately for his fans, he is not a loser vampire that sits in his basement. Yeah, debatable. I'm like, I kind of want you to be a little macabre. I want you to be a vampire. Yeah, I'm going honestly. I don't care for William. I want Billy. Yeah, tell me the world is a vampire and then prove it. You told me the world is a vampire, dude. Yeah. Now you're telling me it's not? Cardi Land mother. Do you know what the funniest part is? He wrote a lot of Holes music. I did know that actually. Yeah. I think he wrote Celebrity Skin and the other one in Malibu for Courtney Love. And I'm like, that is so, and I'm like, that's so weird. And then you listen to it and then you got to listen to it and like Billy's voice and you're like, oh, yeah, it is him. Passion drive and patience. 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You remember when that, when NWA came out, we were all saying collectively, this is really freaking cool. It looks awesome, you know, cornet on commentary before he canceled himself again. Cornet on commentary was really cool. They had a really awesome presentation. It was a point that where was the point that it fell when Nick all this no, it was close to him and all this for clashing and because the presentation was very good, even before NWA power, when they built up that all this and Tim's store match and they did the basically road to type of show like UFC presentation, like that was a big deal. I remember being very excited, like, oh, this is new and different doing this without a television deal, essentially. And then they did Cody and all this, which was obviously a big deal all in. And then they did the rematch at the anniversary show or whatever, whatever show they did it at. But all of a sudden the long run power, the early days of power was good because they had good talent on the show. And then once the COVID really kind of screwed things up for them, and then all this wanted to do things a certain way and Billy Corgan wanted to do things another way. And are you missing the biggest ones? I mean, I think I know it's people who can't be talked about exactly. And it is there was someone, someone who was located and speaking out who was very much the driving force behind the creative was rightfully removed from the business. Again, separating our from artists, the creative was better than under that person. But that person doesn't deserve A to have the air given and B doesn't deserve to have a job for what they did. So that also tanked NWA and their creativity and therefore their popularity. I do think all this had the right vision for things though. This is based on what all this is saying in interviews versus what Billy saying in interviews. But there's I think a little bit of truth in these things. I know people got mad at all this because he was like always at the top of the promotion and everything. But honestly, he should have been based on I mean, he didn't have anybody that looked like him. I mean, that guy that guy's a stud. It is wild that he is not wrestling. He's doing well. He's doing well. I don't think he's complaining. I don't think so, I don't think he's complaining. But I mean, it is interesting. I mean, he's getting paid well. He's on TV, but he's not wrestling. And this is a guy that had, you know, a lot of conversations around like, hmm, that's the life that is on television. He doesn't have to take any bumps or anything. So getting paid well. Yeah, I guess. You're right. I guess. I guess he hit the jackpot. Yeah. That's it. I mean, I get these guys want to wrestle and like, Oh, let me go out there and do my art and all this stuff. No. Absolutely not. Go out there, make all the money you can without having to bump your ass off for this stuff. It's great. I went on one of my first big wrestling rants to my son yesterday. We were just because he loves the AEW video game. Okay. I think he may be the only one last one. Yeah. He's the one. He's a kid. He's a kid. He first slitched. That doesn't cost $40. I actually, I may have a copy for no, no, minus for a PlayStation. I have two PlayStation coffees and send me the other one. If you want it, I'll give you the PlayStation one. Oh, I want the switch one. I only have a switch. He plays it and he likes the death match, right? And do you know who he always plays as? Dan Hausen. Fair. You can like curse me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When when the kids lost their teeth, like a year ago, I ordered a cameo from Dan Hausen telling them that he's going to come in the middle of the night and take their all their teeth. And he made it. He showed it to the kids. They were mortified. They were mortified. Yeah. So he plays it. So he was like, you know, yesterday we were like whining down for the night. He's like, Oh, I want to see some of those death matches. I went on a rant about garbage wrestling to this kid for like 15 minutes. I cut a promo about how much I hate death matches. I hate the fluorescent tubes, it is garbage wrestling that is not an art that is not what he should be watching. And I was like, what am I doing? What am I doing right now? And then he just said, dad, set up the table. That's all. Yeah. And then he was watching XpW from 2001. That sounds awful. The kids. You can watch XpW today, like that's all around. That's a thing. You don't want to do that. Yeah. Yeah. XpW fight forever switch, still $39.99 crazy. Not happening. That's crazy. Y'all send me a quote. No, I don't think that game is bad. Okay. I don't think it's a bad game. I think it is a very simple game. And you cannot compare it to a simulation. It's an arcade style, simple game. You cannot compare it to what WWE does with 2K, 48, whatever they're calling it now. I can't play the 2K games. It's too advanced for me. The problem with the AEW game is just there's no depth to it. Like you play it once and then it's like, okay, that's it. Like the WWE games live on because the creation suite is insane. Like you can just put Kenny Omega, you can create a better version of Kenny Omega in the WWE game than you could play in the AEW game. Dude, you know, the biggest problem was the graphics. The graphics were not what people thought it would be. I think and they wanted the cartoonist graphics, you know, but they did listen to their audience for 20 some odd years. Anybody that played wrestling video games has been screaming, man, if only No Mercy came back, if only somebody made a No Mercy style game and they did. Yeah, but the creation on No Mercy was better than the creation on this game. Yeah, like the, yeah, the lack of depth just completely and it's outdated. You're playing in an arena that they haven't used for three years now. Waiting for the next season. Oh, you know, with Jason saying with PC mods, you can do a bunch to it, sure, but not everybody has it on PC. So yeah, I'm trying to get it on Switch for Christ's sake. That's like the most outdated version. I know most things on Switch are, but listen, I just bought Mega Man one through six, which were any S games. I bought that for 10 bucks. You know why? Because I'm a nostalgic asshole. That's why. Because it's. You know what I've been playing vampire survivors. Say what? Is Bill, you know what they should be that that's the last pay per view for NWA vampire survivors. It's just him. Everybody else left. And it's him and and and other James Mitchell, just both of them in the ring, up and white stuff the whole time. You know, I don't think that that cocaine spot was as bad as many people made it up to me. Neither does he know. He told us. I know. You know, I don't I don't think I mean the fact that James Mitchell came off a little bit of a of a an S trafficker is the problem. The cocaine wasn't. I don't know. I think we have to get a priorities check with that segment. Did we. It's years old. It's wacky. You you have more fun with you go to hell, Matt Cardona. Yeah. That went. That went absolutely nowhere. Okay, Maddox on back when says Peck is officially healed, but it's not. It's only healed in GCW. It's not officially healed in TNA. That's because Dr. Matt Cardona can clear him in GCW and they have actual maybe legit doctors and TNA that are not clearing him. Well, it depends when you were watching TNA because the on screen doctor that they used it makes perfect sense that Cardona would say what he says. By the way, you could throw me off whenever you want me to leave. What are we going to do? Maybe Jeremy doesn't want me here. Maybe Jeremy wants me to leave. Never. Never. No, that's never true. Do you want to do you want to talk about professional styles of wrestling from the weekend with us? I I have consumed so much wrestling, including I W F from a universal studios this weekend. International wrestling Federation? Yes, the the guy that exposed wrestling where he gigged on to what was his name? God, he was the founder of the promotion. No, not the magician one, the one that went on like 2020 and then he just gigged. Hold on. Oh, I thought this was BRCW. Okay, different show. Never mind. Oh, this sounds terrible. What is this thing? What is this you're talking about? I W F. Oh, yeah, I'm aware of this the internet and how's the international weightlifting Federation? Nope. Is it not I W F? I W. International independent wrestling Federation? Nope, that's not it. I W F from universal studios. From universal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they were on from then from like 91 to 93. It was the first universal studios wrestling show. Oh, you're watching. Okay. This is you're watching old stuff. I'm watching old stuff. Yeah. Eddie Mansfield. Eddie Mansfield. That's his name. Eddie Mansfield. It was his promotion. Yeah, the money was terrible. It was terrible. This had a Mongolian stomper. I don't think it was the original one, they just couldn't call him a Mongolian stomper. Yeah. I watch I watch all the wrestling and then I watch all the bad wrestling too. I just went on YouTube and I found the worst wrestling. If I watch the that that Hulk Hogan promotion from Florida. Oh, that was was that the XW F that he called it? No, XWA. No. Sometimes the Australia. It's called it a hocomania, brother. What was the stupid promotion? It was yeah, it was the XW F the exciting, yeah, segment wrestling promotion or Federation. And it was it was like for everybody, you know, it was it's for everyone who was friends with Hulk Hogan is what it was. Yeah. Let's see the nasty boys Russell three times in a row. All right. What's what's very funny is you and I were talking the other night, we were texting and just talking about how there's so much wrestling on and then you're like, and now I'm watching this and it was the old wrestling and I'm like, let's comfort wrestling. That's different. Because sometimes the wrestling shows on the weekend aren't up to par with what we might want to see. You know, for some for some comfort wrestling is Brett and Sean others, it's you know, Steve Austin. For me, it's the is the Papa Shango poisoning ultimate warrior where he's vomiting the beans all over the ring. That is my comfort wrestling. That sounds about right. Jeremy's is anything said related these days. Oh, I watch. SID in. I'll do. You've been you've been you've been you've been your sib boner has been up for a long time. Actual day. Yeah. And I get it. I get it. That man. What a look. What a look. My father would say that he looked like an overgrown garbage pail kid. I can see his joke about him. He was just what but you know what? I think in the history of wrestling, right, the storytelling of wrestling, we omitted what a maniac this man was in the ring. What a fantastic promo he was. What a great big man. He was. We've omitted that because wrestling shifted. It became into the flippy floppy got to get your spots in. I want to look at this giant blonde man, huge just screaming at me that he's the master of the universe. How do you not like that man? This starcade match Kevin Nash, starcade 99 very memorable pay per view as well, because that's the Brett Goldberg show as well David Flair against Diamond Dallas page. I was looking at the card when I was running this back the other night. What a fucking show. So I'm watching this match with a wife who's never seen it or if she has, it's been forever. And I want to watch it back because I'm like, I think I remember this finish. I think I remember this finish. They do this match. It's a power bomb match. Everybody. Yes. You can only win by hitting the power bomb because they're both the master of the power bomb about two minutes into the match. Kevin Nash goes for a pinfall and they just start counting the pinfall. I'm dying at this that they've already forgotten the stipulation two minutes in sorry to spoil this match. 10, you know, more than 20, 25 years old. Yeah. Sorry, everybody. So the finished Jeff Jarrett comes in and hits Sid with a guitar and he's clearing the guitar of the ring. And the wife is just like, why is he doing that? It's fine. Like, it's okay if he just hits him with a guitar and it like no DQ Sid was using a chair earlier in the match. So why why is he doing this? I'm cackling because I remember the finish. And I remember why he did it and why he cleared out the ring and everything. I'm just cackling and she's looking at me like, what, what is going on? Nash acts like he can't do the power bomb as back as so her because he's been hit with the chair. This ref is selling, getting hit in the corner for about five minutes ago. And finally, after in five minutes of the ref, I think it was slick Johnson. The ref turns around and Kevin Nash just like, I stuck him. I stuck him. And the ref is just like, yeah, sure, he powerbombed them, call off the match. And that's it. That's the match. Kevin Nash never actually hit the power bomb on Sid. Sid actually powerbombed him, but the match just ends because Kevin Nash is like, yes, I powerbomb him while you were down and out and the match is like six minutes long. They counted a pin fall because they forgot the damn rules. Sid is the one who hits the power bomb. They use chairs and guitars and the finish is not an actual finish. It's a lie. It's a fucking lie. Kevin Nash lied to win this match. What are the greatest matches of all time? I don't care what anybody says. Wasn't this also the pay-per-view that had Chris Benoit win the title? Yeah, he cut a promo early in the night and then Jeff Jarrett was the, no, no, no, no, no, no, because Brett and Goldberg was for the title. So no. Oh, it was for the U.S. title. It was for the U.S. title. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which show did you say it was? This was, this wasn't started in '99. Arcade '99. I was like, it's hot spring stampede. I know this. Okay. I got the card here. This, this show had 13 matches. They're all like five minutes long. Yeah. They're all five minutes long. Right. Look, okay. Okay. Okay. One of the longer matches was the Mamalooks versus disco and ferno and Lashlaroo. Lashlaroo. Yeah. I would tell. Dude, me too. I was a big lash. Who doesn't love occasion? Right. Especially ones that come out and do this because they got the, the L shaved into their, to their chops. If you got. So here we go. This went 9 40 by the way, this match. This was followed by Medusa defeating Evan courageous to the fellow Greeks out there. I liked Evan courageous because he's Greek and I have an affinity towards the Greeks. Don't talk. This. Tony Shabak. Yeah. This went three minutes and 32 seconds. Tony was followed by Norman Smiley defeating Meng in a hardcore match. Hardcore title match. Remember the W.W. Hardcore title? Made that thing. Disgusting. Hardcore hack. Disgusting title. I hated the look of that. Four minutes, 29 seconds. Yeah. But Ming rules and so does Norman Smiley. Yeah. This is screaming Norman Smiley, too, where everything happened. He's screaming. Fantastic. You know, I don't remember the match, but for whatever reason, Norman Smiley's wearing like all the protective gear in the beginning, right? Oh, yeah. Whenever they went to Canada, he would be wearing like goalie gear. And then whenever they were in the States, he would be like football gear. It was hilarious. Brilliant. Brilliant. You've got over it. That's why he's got a PC job for life. Match number four. The revolution. Shane Douglas, Dean Malenko, Perry Saturn and Asia. Oh, yeah, Asia, Asia with a Y. Yeah. They made Asia. China. China. Oh, we have more parody here on this show. Defeated Jim Duggan and the varsity club. Hell yeah. Well, the greatest thing. This one. This one. Eight man, eight person tag match. It went four minutes and 53 seconds. That's the best I've ever heard of Nitro ever. As it should. Yeah. Followed by match number five on this gigantic 13 card Star Key. Game pyro with the Misfits, the Feeded Steve Williams. Five minutes. Do you remember who was with Steve Williams? Who was with Dr. Deaf? Oklahoma. Oklahoma. And that was match number six, then pyro, the Feeded Oklahoma. The two minutes. Yeah. Yeah. The gimmick was the gimmick was if Van Piro could beat Steve Williams, he would get Van Piro. Or he would get Oklahoma on a match. Great. Unbelievable. That led to the Oklahoma thing. Okay. I don't remember this. Okay. But this is match number seven. This went long. This one's seven minutes and 52 seconds. Creative control. Oh hell yeah. Gerald and Patrick. I do not remember the Harris brothers, the Harris supremacist. I mean brothers. We're named Gerald and Patrick. Why were they named Gerald and Patrick Anderson and Gerald Brisco? I had no idea that this was a thing. Totally forgot this. You bet. It was a thing. I love WCW. Should I stop this? Are you guys? Is the crowd? No. Is this live crowd? No. The millions and millions watching this. Are they enjoying this? Yeah. They were, they were accompanied by Curt Henning, which Shane, by the way. This is when they renamed Virgil Shane. Oh, because of the rap is crap stuff. Yep. It was Gerald Patrick and Shane and Curt Henning, defeating Harlem Heat and Midnight. The, I don't remember Midnight, but it says Ann Marie Crooks in the Jamaican born American former female bodybuilder and professional wrestler. I, I kind of remember what she looked like. I don't really remember her. So she's a black woman, very dark complexion, and she was teamed up with Harlem Heat. Superjacked. That's, that's the description I got. Very jacked. It was like, it's like, if anyone wants, like, if you remember Linda Miles, like before, like Linda Miles before Linda Miles, but it's not Linda Miles, if you're looking for something to compare to WWE. So the match number eight, and now I'm confused, Jeff Jarrett, the feed, oh, this was the Jeff Jared Doom show, right? This is when he was on everything. Jeff Jarrett defeated Dustin Rhodes in a bunkhouse brawl, 11 minutes, 18 seconds. Bless. Look at these two, and now they're working all in 25 years later in high profile spots. Yeah. Wild, right? Double-chill. Dustin Rhodes and former WCW champion, Jeff Jarrett. The man. This was 11 minutes. This was in for the title at all at. He should be. I agree with that. I can't believe they didn't pull the trigger on that one. Match number nine, Diamond Dallas page, defeated David Flair by pinfall in a crowbar on a pole match. Okay. This has been through. So era. Oh, yeah. Yep. You get the crowbar. You use the crowbar, but you still have to win the match by traditional means. I'm going to beat you up so bad that I then pin you for a three count. Sounds like something we just did. Yeah. Sounds like something we would have done this past weekend. So who am I to say? Number nine. Well, we did number nine. Ten, staying with Elizabeth defeated Lex Luger by DQ in five minutes. Oh, so we watched the end of this. We watched the end of this and Luger puts him out and they're like, Oh, staying might be paralyzed. He's so hurt. Like he can't move. Do you know how they carry this man out of the ring who might be paralyzed slash concussed? They got five guys just picking up his late body. Two people are holding his legs. He's holding his arms, somebody's like holding his neck. They're just letting him hang like dangling. You know, like when you swing your kid and you might just like, that's how they're holding sting as they're carrying him out of the ring, be like, he's paralyzed. We don't know if we're ever going to see. He can't move at all. They got no care for this man at all. They don't even bother to bring out a board or anything. It's just like, Oh, we're going to take sting out of the ring and just toss up the ocean. We got no use for sting anymore. Oh, he can't be anymore hurt than he is now. So you may as well just carry in this is rules, absolutely rules. My OCD is kicking in with the centering of myself and it's really bothersome. So I have to now reposition here. We got, we went over this one. We got Kevin Nash and Sid in six, six, almost seven minutes, 659. We went over that one. He said followed by over seven minutes. Followed by Chris Benoit, defeating Jeff Jarrett in a ladder match for the US title. So Jeff Jarrett at two matches as he should three appearances. This one 1015 and the main event that went 12 minutes and seven said, this is the longest match. That hard defeated Bill Goldberg, allegedly, allegedly, what a, what a pay per view. Oh, the biggest show of the year for WCW everybody, the mule kick, the mule kick. That was the kick. That was the, that was the kick. Yeah. That was the, that was the infamous kick, but didn't Brett Russell for like two weeks after this? Yeah. He wrestled like a cage match like the following night and they were like, this is a bad idea. And yet here we are still doing it. They tried to reform the NWO like two weeks later at the NWO 2000. Yeah. The black and silver baby. Yeah. Yep. Jeff Jarrett was the lead. Who was the leader? Jeff Jarrett on that one? Of course. Jeff Jarrett was the leader. But no, he goes, no, he goes. No leaders. It was Jeff Jarrett. I was technically Brett. No. What is the, which, which theme did he have when he, or was it a hammer or somebody? Talk about it. Every cowboy. Yeah. Was it the one where he goes, don't piss me off? Is that the one? Who had the theme that just started with, don't piss me off. That's Jarrett and WWF. Yeah. That was in the WWF. Okay. Yeah. The guitar shirt that said, don't piss me off. God, what a great. My, my cousins and I would, because that's, that's one of my father's lines. We would, every time he would come out to that, we would do it in his accent and we would just laugh and laugh. Don't piss me off. Dude, I was strut. Oh, good stuff. You rest the hardcore match with Terry Funk with the concussion. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what it was. Thanks, Chris. Oh my God. That was a time. That was a great time. Anyway, who's got, who's got a red light and who's got a green light? Oh, you know, I, I, I spoke about an observer love yesterday. I did not hate that match. When I realized it was a four corner strap match and not like an actual strap match, I was like, Oh, here we go. This is so like WWF to do. And it was, it wasn't bad. Did you guys not like it? It was, it was fine for the storytelling that they were trying to achieve. Like, my favorite part is at the end, everyone was like, why didn't they restart the, the, the, the posts every time he hit a GTS? I was like, well, he still had the advantage. He was just, you know, taking more advantage of the advantage he had. If Mack and I heard even punched him, then they would have reset the thing. But like, no, the match itself was fine. They started it off. Well, they wanted to beat the shit out of each other, which was great. They go out of the ring. They do enough that it was fun. And then yeah, they, they built to the crescendo of having to do the actual like, not just the strapping, but the punch of the corners. And like, I got to give it to punk. He made it a way, sorry, he gave it away that it was going to be like, he was going to get the bracelet. He made it look, he made the drama built and he gets the bracelet and he's excited and it's fine. And then he touches the fourth corner and he's, he's happy. He's elated. Now tonight when Drew McIntyre comes out and he's like, you may have beaten me, but you didn't pin me, we're just going to go back to the races and we'll do it. Oh, that was, that's actually, he's going to do that. He's going to do it. The whole story is about how petty can you be and how petty, can you be Drew McIntyre pinned to CM Punk. CM Punk has not pinned Drew McIntyre. Yeah, he beat the shit out of him and touched four corners, but he's going to say now we're going to do it again. And the world title will come into it, you know, Seth Rollins will get involved, Drew will get involved, Punk will get involved. Like there's, there's enough happening and I'm talking like going into WrestleMania. I'm saying like, there's going to be enough storytelling from now until WrestleMania that we can feasibly get to Punk and Seth Rollins as a night one main event for WrestleMania in Las Vegas. So like I didn't hate it. I get it. Every story is going to have dips and dives and ups and downs. This was fine. The match was fine. It deserves every single joke you make about the four corners stuff because this is a WWE is like, that's their strap match. They're not going to deviate from what they consider to be their version of a strap match. It's going to have the lights attached for a little Zabada. >> I like the match. I thought it was good. I thought it was better than the summer slot match. It actually had the intensity that their summer slot match lack. The gimmick, we talked about the gimmick. Are we the only people that knew this is a four corners match? We talked about it being a four corners match for weeks and everybody confused when it was four corners. >> Well, Sean, so Sean on his post show on like the night it was announced, he was also confused until Chad was like, no, it's four corners like you're right. There were a lot of people who didn't realize it was four corners, but we were on it from the get-go. >> Yeah, I knew it was four corners from the start. So this is what I expected in that I knew it was going to be a little hokey in the four corners. The lights are funny to me. They're absolutely hilarious because this might be a hot take for everybody, all right? Sorry. Sorry for this take gets too hot. WWE does sports presentation better than any other wrestling company. And what I mean by that is maybe, oh, you're thinking wins and losses matter and stuff. Sports presentation is something like putting these dumb lights up in the corner. So everyone knows, oh, he touched this like a goal, you score goal in hockey. What goes off? A giant ass air horn and the red light goes off to signify who scored a goal. That's exactly what this is. When they do the little graphics of like this is seeing Punk's first strap match since here Drew McIntyre is 0 and 2 in strap message. That sports presentation that WWE has gotten really, really good at, especially since Lee fitting has come along. I talked about this at the WrestleMania pre-show, the kickoff show, whatever they call these dumb things nowadays. They don't want to do matches and stuff because if you're watching the Super Bowl, you don't have a game before the game, guess the puppy bowl, but you don't have another football game going on before the Super Bowl. What do you have? You have five hours of talking and play your profiles and sit down interviews and highlights. That's what WWE does. They do sports presentation, maybe not how you're thinking, but they do sports presentation better than any company out there. And that's exactly what this is. This was sports presentation with the lights and all that stuff and the graphics that they use. I thought it was well done. The match was fine. The gimmick, it's tough to overcome because the gimmick is what it is. But I thought they did well and that it was very definitive. This wasn't Punk Backdoors way into touching Four Corners or Drew Backdoors way into touching Four Corners. This was now Punk laid this man out and capacitated him, touch all the Four Corners, and then you've got his bracelet back or you've got the bracelet back first and then touch the Four Corners. That was fine. That was actually more than fine. That was good. Yeah. The show itself was solid. Like again, this wasn't a huge newsworthy show, Bash and Berlin, but it was largely enjoyable. I did not watch it live. I was making a sauce with Nona. That was-- Oh. Yeah. That's a thing that happens. Yeah. You do Nona sauce now? You're in my world. Yeah. I have to be. Jeff Jarrett over here, my world. Yeah. My wife, her mother, married an Italian man and Nona is still with us and we still do the sauce and we bring the kid. Oh, that's fun. You ever tried to keep a kid away from a giant hot stove? It's right at his eye level and all he wants to do is look in? That's frightening. That is-- that's not fun. Anyway, yeah, we did that. You know, once they touch it, once they touch it, they won't do it again. No, you think so, but kids are dumb. Sexual. Kids are not the brightest. My kid is. My kid is very smart, how dare you. Nah, he does some dumb shit. Anyway, yeah. Bash and Berlin was a solid show. It was, like I said, it was on the level of what you'd expect. Gunther and Randy Orton delivered. They were a fun match. My favorite part was Randy basically saying to Gunther no chops and Gunther be like butt, butt, butt, butt. Randy saying no chops, and that's how they went through the match was with very little to no chops. It's solid. Good stuff. Gunther just solidified his title reign a little bit more by beating the legend. And someone had pointed out, you know, 10 years ago, Randy held both titles. Oh, he was P pointed out that was a whole build. And Gunther was just getting started 10 years ago. Things are different now. This was a good match, solid outcome. Nothing really shocked me there. And Jeremy, like I told you on Friday and leading up to it, Ludwig Kaiser, challenge for the US title on SmackDown, told you he'd have his moment. He got it. He lost. He's so lost, giant loser, Ludwig Kaiser, till he got to come out and introduce his best buddy. And then give him a fist bump, be like, you got this, bro. Bro. Yeah. Show us fine. New tag chance. That's the thing. They, they, they, they subscribe to the TNA, you know, one title is going to change hands on all of these special events. That's just the way WWE works now. When they go overseas, they're like, we're going to give you one, but everything else is just on the level. It's just going to be fun matches. And they did it. They changed the women's tag titles. They went back to cargo and Belair. And that's great. Now they got to tell that story again. Whatever that is, because it's the women's tag titles and they haven't really done. They got a big celebration tonight. Yeah. And I'm sure Casey and Caden are going to come back. And then I'm sure the other ones are going to come back to the, the pure fusion. No, they got a, they got a number one contenders match against Alba and Ila against EO and Kyrie. So great. And I'm sure Casey and Caden will come back and it'll become a four way or something. Why would they do that? Because Casey and Caden got laid out by PFC. Mm. Pf Chang's. I'm hungry. I had waffles for breakfast on a butchial. I had one egg. Yeah. I thought you had two eggs every morning. No. I had one this this morning. Yeah. By the way, they were heirloom eggs. They were heirloom eggs and they were delicious. What does that mean? Heirloom eggs. They had generation to generation. They passed down. Yeah. Heirloom eggs. Why didn't you leave? You should go back and open and ate it like that. My wife has become a crunchy mom. And every, we have like everything has to be a very specific farm. We get our meat from and our eggs from, I don't know if I told you this. Like everything, the eggs have to come from a specific farm. The meat, the chicken. We were getting it from the Amish for a little bit and then we decided that we didn't like how they were treating animals. So we went to a different farm. It's a whole thing. We can't just walk into like food town and buy groceries anymore. Forget about the produce. The produce has to come from specific places. Are you sure you're not a Jew? Her name is Jessica. Her name is Jessica. Yeah. And say this as a Jew myself. I don't want people thinking I'm being anti-Semitic. Yeah, Joel. What an accusation, what a threatening question. Are you sure you're not? My mother did tell me in her past life that she was Jewish. She was an Israeli girl that was drowned. I told you this privately. Don't go anywhere further with that statement clearly. Yeah. Yeah. This is just going to give you a little glimpse into my reality of my childhood. My mother would tell me all the time that in her past life, she was a little Jewish girl living in Israel and she was drowned in the Mediterranean or the Dead Sea. I'm pretty sure that was almost the story of Moses anyway. I think that is. Yeah. No, no, no. Almost drowned. Almost. Found him in the past. He did the whole thing. Yeah. Oh, man, that's good stuff. By the way, justified. You sold out shit from Louie for Mean Channel Monday. You can donate a super chat. Any amount of good your question or statement read on the air. We appreciate that and Gregory Allorado is a YouTube member. Thank you for some reason. It came up twice. So thank you for your double membership. Maybe you have two accounts and you put both accounts under the membership, which honestly, great. Wonderful. Thank you for that. Where are we going? Is there anything else from Berlin that we want to talk about? Cody and Kevin Owens and how Cody won and Kevin Owens is a coward. Can I give you a hot take? Yes. I love that match. Wow. That's a hot take. I don't love it after you. I don't know what's wrong with it, Andrew's area. I was bored. Really? You know what match I was not bored with? Gunther and Rainy Orton. I love that match. But the crowd was equally hot for both the story. I understand maybe the storytelling was a little different for Cody and KO versus Gunther versus Randy. Like I understand that. But what kept you from enjoying it? I don't know. I just, I didn't, it was fine. It was fine. It was a fine match. It wasn't, it did nothing for me though. I mean, I think the build, yeah, I don't like, I really never like the, I'm a baby face, you're a baby face. I'm giving this to you because you worked hard. I never liked those matches because you've already told me like, oh, this is just like a throwaway. It's a favor. You've never had the person win that I look like a jerk, you know, like, like as the person was like, oh yeah, you know what, I'll throw you a bone to get you on this pay-per-view. That person never loses those matches. Like, there was no believability like Randy, they, even though I knew Gunther wasn't losing, they kept telling us like, oh, Randy, Randy's going to be, could become a 15 time champion. Then these one win away, you know, they kept saying that. They kept saying that, you know, John Cena's coming back. John Cena has 16 champions to three and he has 14. He could win, you know, he could get one closer. They kind of made it feel like, okay, maybe there's a possibility. I felt nothing with the Kevin Owens thing. So what you're saying is Cody is a flop as a champion and they should get the title off of them, get it back on the tribal chief, where's the one, get the one in there, get it back on the tribal chief. Hey, how do the fireworks look when you, uh, when you do the circle to gimmick? I don't know if it will, like, pick up because it's like, it's so in close. Oh, that's actually pretty good. All right stuff. Oh, he's crying. I'm sorry, buddy. Hold on. Hold on. Here we go. There it is. I'm not using a Mac. Your ECW hardcore sign is going into business for itself and not doing any of the fireworks. Uh, the, the KO thing that, listen, the big takeaway for me was that KO was reading awful news reports. He's, he's getting it wrong. Why isn't he reading Fightful Select talking about Cody, having, having a bum leg? We never reported that. I don't know who did. I did like because he says on Friday, Oh, your knees hurt. Your knees hurt. Your knees hurt. And then he doesn't go after the knee outside of the one time where he kicked his leg out of his leg on the outside, but he didn't go after his knee. I liked commentary saying Kevin said that to make Cody think he was going to go after his legs. So now Cody's protecting his leg, but Kevin's actually focusing on like his ribs and his, his, you know, chest area. I like that little pickup by commentary because I was wondering myself was like, why isn't he going after his legs here? Like, why wouldn't you go after that? And then commentary covered it well. Now, do you think that that's going to turn into KO when he does turn heal, he's going to immediately target the leg? Is that going? I don't know how quickly he's turning heel is the only name he should, by the way. They need, they need really good heels. That's. We should go. He would you say Kevin? I want you to go. Going between Kevin and Randy for obvious reasons with Randy. There's the story is there. It's built in and Randy's just a, in ways he's a better heel, but right now he has just that return and that nostalgia pop that keeps coming up. Maybe you just want to keep that going, but Kevin, he's a great heel too, but he's also a really entertaining face in that he calls shit out in terms of canon and storyline. Like he's good at being kind of a meta babyface that's not overtly meta. So it works for him. But when he's a heel, like he's the best piece of garbage human being in the world. So I'm like, I'm on this. This is, I'm going back and forth. I've asked a late between the two. They need one of them to go heel. I imagine one of them will go heel before the end of the year because they're, and that's the reason why Kevin Owens got this title match because you look at that SmackDown roster and it's like, well, okay, well, who's a good heel for Cody to face? And it's like, oh, let's run back solo, Sakawa. That's what's next. Exactly. Yeah, that's what's next. And I, okay, well, why, but you know, they are doing a good job at protecting Jacob Fatu. I mean, that's the guy right there. That's the guy. Like that's everybody that, like that's the, you know what match I want to see, and nobody's talking about it? Braun Breaker and Jacob Fatu. That's the match. Well, they're apart right now. And the storyline right now is, is Fatu. Yeah, you got a bloodline in Roman once, once things kind of break out, absolutely, that would be a fantastic match to watch. Honestly, Bronzyn Reed, tsunami, Jacob Fatu. They're doing a good job with Bronzyn on Raw, building him a little bit cleaner on Raw when it comes to heels, but they got, you know, they got to heal champion. So it's a little bit easier because they have good baby faces to feed Gunther right now. And some of the focus, the focus has shifted to Raw more. Yes, but in two weeks, it's going to focus back to SmackDown for a little bit. Yeah. And then, and then they go to Netflix on one six, which is, which, you know, that's a choice that day. I mean, it's just the first Monday of the year. First Monday. And for that. Yeah. Cody has opened it up. It's like having a show on September 11th. Sometimes things just happen. Yeah. Like I'm pretty sure dynamite. Oh, no. Yeah, dynamite is on the. Yeah, it's an 11. It's just dates or dates sometimes, but anyway, it'll be, yeah, January six is the Netflix debut. Cody Rhodes did reveal that during his triple H post show press conference. I mean, they have to go, they have to go balls to the wall, right? They have to, they have to bleed everywhere. Yeah. They're going to have a big show. Well, I got a scoop, big show. I said not. Oh, I didn't hear that part. But yeah, John's not an Netflix Sacramento. No, that's a big note. Thank you on this show. I'm going to watch it. I mean, yeah, I'm going to be fascinating. Yeah. One way or another. I'm just, I'm very, I'm very curious and, you know, people are acting like, Oh, this is going to be an expose. My expectation is this is going to be none of that. And it's going to be may, it'll probably lean into him being, you know, aggressive and a madman. But in more of like, well, that's just Vince. I don't think they're going to go into anything. And why would Netflix do that? You know, you have, you, you potentially have a 15 year asset on your brand because that deal could eventually become 15 years of the extension gets taken. They're not going to expose the horribleness of everything that's happened in that company. I just don't see it happening with Bill Simmons producing it. I don't see it happening at all. I think it'll be very tame compared to what people want. Like, I think it'll be good and like the information that they, they talk about and the way it is presented and put together. But I do think people will want talk about this allegation and talk about this allegation and talk about this lawsuit and you're probably not going to get any of that. You're probably just going to get kind of what you said, Zarian, of Vince is a madman behind the scenes. Look at all the stuff he did, but wrestling wouldn't exist without him. Yeah. That's, that's, I'm going to watch it, you know, I, I would be shocked if they go into details, like that would be, that would be shocking. Like there's a lot of people thinking this is going to be coming out, like people going to sit down and it's going to be like a shoot interview, you know, like I, I don't see being that. I think it's going to be very polished with WWE wrestlers talking about, you know, the good times and the bad times, you know, Montreal, you know, he screwed Brett. I think you're going to get an honest look as honest as they're going to be in the board of professional wrestling and honest look at the things they cover. But I don't think you're going to get certain things covered that you might want. Hopefully that makes sense to everybody. Yeah. I certainly don't want to talk too much about it because we'll see when it comes out, we'll see what the delivery is going to be like. It's on the thumbnail, so I want to touch on it before we move off to next things. But Punk and Drew, is this the Hell in a Cell match, presumably at Bad Blood? Is this worthy of a Hell in a Cell match? Do we go that far, especially now that CM Punk has said, now I want that world title and my eyes are on whoever won the world title match at Berlin, obviously Gunzer did. Is this, is this something worth doing? Going into a Bad Blood pay-per-view and doing it in a Hell in a Cell, but those two? It's worthy. I mean, the story is there. I don't think that can honestly be argued that it's not worthy of Hell in a Cell. Like, can you think of another actual blood feud with this stuff? I think the issue becomes, I don't know if it's necessary after this strat match. Like, that was a pretty definitive win by Punk. I know Joel, you mentioned of like, oh, well, it didn't pin him, so that's what Drew can say. He's like, oh, you never pin me, one, two, three. Yeah, but he beats you down enough to where he touched four corners. That's just his, it's not the visual of the pinfall that I know we've come to learn from professional wrestling, but like, getting incapacitated to the point where I do touch his four corners, it's the same as getting incapacitated of like a last man standing match. Like, you were down for a 10 count, which is more than a three count. Yeah. So I don't know if it's necessary, but I definitely think it's worthy if that's the way they decide to go with it. You also have to remember they're one and one, right? Drew won the first match, Punk has won the second. I do agree with you, by the way. He was Punk incapacitated his opponent. Drew McIntyre was out. He lost the match. Do you do it again? Again, you come out and you say you didn't pin me, so now you got to do petty and then you go to it and if they put a little stake on it and they say the winner gets number one contendership. What kind of state? Pardon? What kind of state? Oh, Omaha. Oh, I don't want to say the only stakes that matter in the pro wrestling podcasting world. I was like a ribeye T-bone. I mean, I would like any five wagyu a five if I could, but a little, you know, put a little pizzazz on that and make it make it nice. Let me take your stake, Joel. Medium rare. How about you? Yeah. Perfect. Medium. I have a T-bone right now. I have a, I did a dry rub. Uh, it's in the fridge from yesterday. I'm growing it today. Nice. I'll be having. Medium rare. I'll be having stakes on Sunday. That'll be fun. Okay. Yeah. My brother's getting married. Oh, nice. That's a second wedding. You know. He's so, you know how it goes. There will be no John Cena theme, but, oh, maybe I can tell the music for a little bit, but you know, you put those two in a hell in a cell and you can easily make the winner the number one contender. On the other hand, you were mentioning what other matches would, would work and they might find a way to do it for Cody and solo just to give it that extra. The bloodline interferes and they get in the cage and then Roman saves and they do the Cody again. I don't want that personally. I would rather they do punk and Drew and let that blow off because they're one and one and let the winner get a world title match maybe as early as the January, no, not January six Netflix because that's a while off, but somewhere down the line. And then eventually, like I said, Seth comes back, Gunther is there. The four of them are going to be somewhere working to get to the main event. Put, put Rhea and Dom in hell in a cell. That's what it should be. Not really. Oh my god. That's a match. Not Rhea and Liv, Rhea Ripley, Dominic Mysterio, hell in a cell. Damien stands at the door. Yeah, just keeps the bouncer, he's a bouncer in a previous life, wouldn't he? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Put him in a hot tub in front of the door. I don't know about that. He's going to get out and he might slip around and stuff. Just put him in front of the door and he's the bouncer for this thing. Put us in a hot tub in front of the door with Damien Priest in front of the door. And it's us in the hot tub interviewing Damien Priest live as the match is going on. I don't know about this. People sound great trouble. I was going to get angry about Rhea and Dominic. That was the biggest pop of the night at Bastion Berlin when they put that stupid little meter on there. Again, sports presentation. That's straight out of just sports presentation right there. They've been doing this for a few shows now. They put that meter on there. That was the biggest pop outside of maybe like Orton's theme and everybody singing that. But the crowd went crazy when Rhea beat the shit out of Dom and choked him with her legs. Crowd went crazy on that. She still hadn't hit the riptide on them either. They're going to go crazy for that too. Both have said I'm good. Let's do it. You know, obviously they because who doesn't like money. So you know, Dom's like, I don't know if they do it, but I'd like to do it and Rhea's like, hell yeah, let's do it brother. So if you listen, if they can do it, I'd love the idea of it. But I feel like if they do try to book it, it'll end with someone getting involved and, you know, mishmash, nothing happens. I'd still like to see the match and I'm sure they would make it work in a way that works for WWE style. Dom doesn't have to do like strikes or anything and you can just do wrestling moves, do some suplexes, hit a frog splash, run away, like you know, you can do it in a way that is not, I don't know the right term, but in a way that makes ender gender wrestling where people are not like, oh, look at this man beating up a woman. Really what it is is just to be to be blunt, it's striking and that's part of wrestling matches. Any if he evades any striking and Rhea gets all the striking in, then it it seemed better than the other way around or if it's even whatever it is. And if that's the way that they're worried about it looking bad, then yeah, there are ways to work around that. Like everything you just said, Jeremy, he can evade, he can duck under, he can do the wrestling moves, he can do a frog splash, Liv can get involved when the referee is down and she can do the strike, whatever, there's a way to make it work if WWE wants to keep it in their style. The real way to make it work is you put them, Rhea Dom, Hell in a Cell, and Rhea just kicks the shit out of them for three minutes and wins and Dom doesn't get anything in there. No cage needed, just, we just did it for the last. We just wanted to test the equipment, make sure it goes up and down. Okay. And Lewis got it right. Basically, I'd say Dom should run for three minutes and lose in five. Exactly. Her Rhea kicks the shit out of them and wins, Dom doesn't get anything in. I'm all for it. But yeah, we'll see. We'll see if they do. I mean, it feels like a Hell in a Cell matches on the horizon for all the reasons we talked about a bad blood. It just comes down to who is going to be in it. I would just book the one Hell in a Cell match on the show. I don't see a need to do more than one. I don't think you need to do Rhea and live in a Hell in a Cell. I understand why people want it, but I just keep it at one, make this the one time. This isn't the Hell in a Cell pay-per-view. This is just a Hell in a Cell because there's a, you know, there's a historical reasoning for it. I don't know if, Zarian, you have anything to add about all that. You're muted. Thank you. My dog's been barking. I'm curious who Gunther is going to face for the world title now. Seth Rollins. No, I don't know. No, but Seth is, Seth is out and it looks like it's Seth and Bronson Reed. Could do Sammy have Sammy come back? You could have Sammy come back. Yes, I mean, beat him at WrestleMania. Get that kind of, Sammy's always over too. Just depends whether or not he's, uh, he's okay, like whether or not he's healed up enough to come back because he was doing the stem cell treatments. I'll tell you who is Sammy. Yeah. I'll tell you who we should face and I'll tell you who should beat him. Oh yeah, he's around. Man. Yeah, he's around. Eventually he's got to get a win, like a major win, right? Yeah. I just told you should win. Oh, I get what you're saying. It's like, I'm a, I'm kind of agreeing, but also like it's, it's amazing. And this is again, going back to the Rikishi podcast. So every week, Rikishi gets on his podcast and says, they're booking my boy wrong. He's should be the champ. And then Jay's like, shut up. I'm making so much money, shut up. And like we kind of see it, we see it as this way of like, he doesn't need to win. And Jay gets it. Jay understands what is working right now. He's getting built to lose it's, and it's working for now until it doesn't. Then he can get the big win, let him, let him be a big old merch move and loser. And look, punk said he's next. Now whether or not that prophecy becomes true, we shall find out maybe as early as tonight, but punk said he's going after the title. I hope he's just trying to shoot himself into a work here. I'm like, I'm going after the belt. Nobody told me otherwise. So now you got to make this happen. Maybe they do kind of a triple for it type of thing for the next show at Bad Blood. Maybe they do Gumpher, punk and Drew. And that's how you continue Drew and punk without them doing the next singles match. You get Gumpher involved. Yeah. It's possible JBL is on a world tour. Love that. This is what we're talking about. Yep. Okay. I want to talk about JBL because I do want to talk about this insane TNA show for five minutes. Josh Alexander did not win the Iron Man match. The one title match that did have a new winner was Zachary Wentz capturing the exhibition championship for those who watch No Mercy. That happened. He had the title with them. That's nice. JBL comes out at the end of the Nick Nemeth victory at the end of the hour and he just kind of whispers something and walks away. JBL's was in Nick's corner at Triple Mania and they made reference to it in commentary. And I'm sitting there being like, Jesus Christ, no. And then JBL's been on this world tour where he's shown up everywhere, showed up in OVW the next night, which is Kentucky, to Louisville. It's all the same. But like he's shown up in GCW, he's showing up everywhere. The man is like, and he's always wearing the same clothes, which is even weirder to me. I thought JBL was rich. What happened? He does as long. It's cool. Okay. I'm just making sure. Glad you know. I don't. I'm nervous as to what this means if they're referencing Mexico, JBL, and Nick Nemeth because the other side of that matches someone that I do not want to see anywhere near TNA ever again. And on top of that, you're doing Nick Nemeth versus Moose. And this is all going to play into a much larger conversation with No Mercy and Joe Hendry in a second. But I'm just I'm curious about reactions when you saw JBL's lockout onto the stage at emergence. Zarian, did you see this? I did see him come out. I'm very curious what he does. Is he going to wrestle? Where is he going to wrestle? Is he is he does he show up in a w I highly doubt that I think he's going to be adjacent. I think he said he's not going to wrestle. He's just making appearances. You're just making appearances. All right. I mean, that's cool. He just stands there and clotheslines people and leaves. All right. That's his new shirt. Stand. Stand up. Close line. Leave. That's it. I mean, it was it was it's interesting, right? But the TNA stuff, it's amazing how they have survived everything and they're hot again, you know, to TNA to TNA standards. They're hot again. People are talking about him. This is a promotion and nobody was speaking about. They were putting on great pay per views and great shows for a number of years and nobody was talking about it until all of a sudden now they're they're it's a thing. And that's great. I think it's more places for people to work. I think JBL being there brings attention to it and that's a positive. Does it bring attention to it? I don't know. I mean, according to my my Twitter timeline, you know, TNA is back and a W's terrible. So who the hell are you following? Really? The worst. Well, it's not it's not who I'm following. It's the for you page. I know. Stacking off of that thing. Right now. I know. I know. I know it's the worst. It's the worst takes. You know, my entire timeline is filled with the worst political takes on every side. Anti-AW content and pedophiles getting beat up. One of the pedophile hunters. I mean, that that's have you seen those videos? Don't let's not go there right now. Yeah, it's it's it's it's the most insane thing. No, no, no, it's it's like the the the Chris Hanson style where they find them, like they lure them and then they beat them up. Jesus Christ. Yeah. This is the right. No. Yeah. This is the real thing. This is this is where we're at. So anyway. JBL. Yeah. Mama. Juana comes out here. Remember that energy? You had absolutely not it's called Mama Juana energy. Everyone was all really what? Look it up. Mama Juana. And it sounds like marijuana, but it's Mama Juana. I don't want to do that at all. So the JBL stuff is something. I guess he's technically a heel and triple A because he was opposing the other guy in Conan and Nemeth was maybe a heel. Maybe not. I don't know. Maybe that's just the shades of gray. There's a heel in GCW help man's man's is a heel baby face kind of in TNA because he comes out and whisper something to Nemeth who's a baby face and is Nemeth seem to be on board with it. Do you think there's an actual the heel in Mexico, right? Yeah. I think so maybe, but like do you think there's an actual plan here? Or it's just JBL is like, hey, what if I come in and just look like I'm trying to do Undertaker cosplay and I just do a bunch of whispers and you get some buzz off of it. I don't know if there's an actual plan here. I hope there is, but I'm not positive that there is. I don't think there is like, I don't know what they're doing. And this is the frustrating part about being the guy who covers TNA. We talked about it on the post show and now I kind of I do this to kind of bring on the real subject and that's Joe Henry. So Henry had a pretty amazing weekend in terms of performance and entertainment. He had the eight man tag in emergence. He lost at it. He lost at no mercy. He wanted emergence. No, he lost an emergence. Didn't he? He's a big old loser that Joe Henry he was just thinking like, yeah, we said he would lose. So at the heart, he's getting. Anyway, he did the entrance at the hearties, people like that. And then everyone sang his theme the, you know, two nights later, no mercy, which was great. And he had the main event and he lost to Ethan pages, big old loser. No Josh Alexander interference, no Josh Alexander afterwards. And apparently like he comes out during the tapings, they're going to reignite the Alexander Henry story. So spoiler alert, I'm sorry I'm too late, but like you knew it was coming. My biggest concern here is like Joe Henry is the weirdest case right now for TNA and for WWE. They clearly like Joe Henry in both places, but they clearly have no idea where Joe slots in or what they want to do with him because in WWE, they love to have him and making him a big star and give him everything and do all the stuff. But he's not signed to them and he can't exclusively be signed to them because he's still under TNA contract and they don't seem to be wanting to give that up just yet. So Henry comes in, makes an impact, but can't win a major singles title, but he can have entertaining segments. Great. Okay, get you over on TV. Meanwhile, in TNA, Paige isn't going for the TNA world title. They've told you all, but told you that Santana has next and they're doing moose versus Nemeth and I was like, man, they got to get Henry a world title win at Bamford Glory, which is their biggest show of the year. But meanwhile, it feels like they might have moose win at Victory Road in two weeks and then go into Bamford Glory with the title and drop it to Santana because Santana's been on the warpath against the system and that's how they're going to get there. What the, the Joe Henry do between now and then Joe Henry has been, he's sitting around singing songs and I, it's very frustrating because Jeremy, you, you and I talked about this going into his, one of his, for going to slam aversary, how he should win the title and I was against it at the time. I'm still against having done it at slam aversary, but it feels like both companies don't know what to do with him even though fans are so behind him because long term they have no idea where they are with him. It's very weird to me. That's how it looks. Can't tell you how it is because I'm not reporting anything. It's just the way that it feels to me. Joe Hendry can fight bully right now. Joe Hendry against JBL is where all of this leads. Oh my god. That's what I need in my life. What if, what if that's it? What if that's the plan? Joe Hendry JBL, that's what we're going with. I mean, he would love that because that just puts him on the radar even further. I know you've got to go do you want to plug anything before you head out? Yeah, be on the belt tomorrow. I'm doing a 10 a.m. again early. Oh, wow. He's back, baby. I'm back, baby. He's going to talk about his cruise for 20 minutes and he's going to pan himself the whole way through. I got this at the US Open. Nice. That's right. It's your games out. You had your thighs out and everything. Did you like that photo? You saw what I posted. You bet I did. I mean, short shorts, I wear short shorts. I hear you. Go away. Five engine scene. Five engines. Do they charge more or less for the seven engines? Oh, oh, no, last, last. I'm almost at Daisy Duke's level, but the fans get so much more. Good night. Good. Hi, Zarian. Enjoy your stakes today. He's with us for the first hour and a half of the show. He's making up for lost time. God bless you. Yeah, really? Well, he told me he would show up, but I didn't think he was going to hang around as much. Anyway, Joe Henry is a big old loser and can't get anything with it. What are we doing? I, the JBL might be the play. I don't know. I thought I should have put the title on him at slam a verse three, you know, in hindsight. I still think it's the right call. Maybe he would have done something different on NXT at that point. He's clearly they're okay with having a TNA champion beat an NXT talent on an NXT show. So I'm not saying Joe, go ahead. So okay, I want, I want people to understand what I'm saying. WWE doesn't see him as Zachary Wentz. They see him as Nash Carter. They did. They see, they don't consider him, you know, they're very much like, oh, he's one of us. It's almost like he's not really TNA is one of us. That's kind of how I read it. Okay, but he's still won the match. I don't care how they see him. He's the TNA X division champion. He signed a TNA and he beat Wesley who signed to NXT. I don't, if they view him as NXT, then fine. But the reality is he's the TNA X division champion. If Joe Henry was the world champion in TNA, I don't think they would have had Ethan Page against Joe Henry as the main event. At that same token, they had Roxanne and Jordan when Jordan is still the knockouts champion and Jordan lost and it was fine. I think maybe you would have seen a Josh Alexander interference the same way we had Ash by Elegance kind of come out during the Jordan and Roxanne match. But I would have put the title on Joe Henry back at Slamiversary and they could have done the exact same stuff they've been doing and they could have done the same match last night as well of Joe Henry could have lost. But he would have been fine because Ethan Page kicked them in the dick. Joe Henry got the visual but Ethan Page's foot was underneath the ropes. Ethan Page had to kind of cheat the win DDT on the title, kick to the dick and then beat him. Joe Henry would have been fine off of that and still been the TNA champion and it would have probably, and when you couple that with Zachary Wentz winning and beating Wesley, it would have been a good night for TNA, it was still a good night for TNA, mind you, because they had one of their guys in the main event, they had Wentz pick up a pretty big victory over Lee. So I don't know what they're doing with Joe Henry and TNA though, I was a little surprised they lost that match of the system. I wasn't, and Preston, I talked about it when we gave predictions the night before and I said the system have to get back on track because they've been, they've been rudderless since they dropped all the titles and it felt like they were trying to motivate Moose again. So of course, that's what happens by the end of the show is they make Moose versus Nemeth. Yeah, it just, it made sense to me, I didn't love it, but it was like, oh, the system's just going to win. That's it. And they're going to pin one of the Hardys because the Hardys are largely inconsequential when it comes to TNA. They're almost, you know, unfalable, infallible. They didn't have to give TNA a win just because Wentz is the champion. I said it when Wentz won, I was like, I don't know if I would have undercut Mike Bailey's run at a month after you built up Ali for this big winning streak and then Bailey beat him in his hometown, big win. And then you're just having Mike Bailey lose in a month for Wentz. And this is no knock on Zachary Wentz. I was just a little surprised by that decision because I think most of us did suspect, oh, well, you're just going to have your ex-division champion lose to Wesley at no mercy instead, Wentz won. So now I'm like, you know what? This is the right call. Yeah, it's still undercut Mike Bailey and I don't think that's the best look in the world. But they got that exhibition title on NXT programming and they got Wentz winning on NXT beating one of their guys too. They put a lot of stock in Wesley. I know he's been out with the injury, but before that he was a North American champion. Even coming back, he's been in a high-profile spot. And now we're going to get the rascals on Tuesday's show, the wrestling and the number one contenders match. I'm like, you know what? It was probably the right move to put the ex-division title on Wentz. It also just makes more sense to do it given the way that they played everything out. Like you said, the tag title opportunity, just the tag job number one contenders match. The injury after the bell, never saw him again. You saw him in the backstage thing with WWE digital posted. But other than that, I was like, once I saw that there was no Joe Henry shot to be found, I was like, Josh Alexander's not coming out. Like, they're going to do Pete's attack. And that was the thing, I was like, okay, fine, Pete Dunne and Trick Williams have a match on Tuesday. It's going to be a good thing. And it's probably going to motivate something for Halloween havoc. I still feel like it's going to be Ethan Page versus Trick Williams at Halloween havoc for the title. Maybe that'll be the recapturing of the title. It feels that way. Maybe you're wrong. Yeah, but they got that the premier show Ethan Page is defending the title. But that might want to do a title change there. Maybe that. Maybe I feel like they might just do Pete Dunne and be Ethan Page. I would do heel and heel. That sounds terrible. Like it, like both guys are good. I'm not saying it'll be a bad match or anything. But like the build that going into that Ethan Page, Pete Dunne, I don't know about that. I would, if you're going to do a main roster guy, one, it should be a babyface. And two, probably someone a little higher on the card than Pete Dunne. They've done well with Pete Dunne. Like he's been in decent positions. He's in this number one contenders tournament. And so he like, he's in a good spot with this thing for the end of the title. He's in a good spot for this thing. Like, feels like you can get somebody a little bit bigger than Pete Dunne and get a babyface, not a heel. Yeah, that's fair. What are you thinking about the CW premiere? What if it's a punk, Ethan Page and punk. They honestly, they might do it because it pops a rating. Other people are jokes like what if it's Pete Dunne versus CM Punk. And it's like, yeah, that's two main roster guys. They could do that. Just motivate that. And then what they do punk one week versus Ethan Page and then Randy Orton the next week you can see the page page has to be both of them and both of those men are like, what are we doing TQ finish, both times, that's a great way to start the show. Okay, CW has a lot of failing wrestling on their show right now. So it's fine. They're looking for a winner. This will be one of them. But yeah, I mean, no mercy last night. Just like T and A emergence were two like fine shows. I don't think actually, you know what emergence was in that grade. Ultimate X was fun, but yeah, shifting back. No mercy. Good, you know, good, good night ended by 945 Eastern. That's always nice. I like that they're continuing that they did that a heat wave. And I was like, Oh, I'm going, I'm going to get home by 10 o'clock. That was a good feeling. But yeah, the show itself was, it was fine. No big surprises just other than maybe the whence victory. I don't know if you have any any thoughts on no mercy because you, you watched and so did I watched a lot of wrestling this weekend. And I'm glad that we had a lot of non wrestling talk this morning to much too much wrestling this weekend. Julia debuted at no mercy. I think that was the biggest kind of takeaway from no mercy. I'm looking forward to Julia. Julia just comes in there and kicks the shit out of people. That's my kind of wrestling is going there and lay it in and look like you're killing these people. It's good stuff. Her and Roxanne's gonna be really fun. Vacher will come in soon Delta will come in soon. But Julia coming in, it's gonna be a lot of fun in her and Roxanne that I don't know if you go Halloween havoc, maybe it's, I don't think it's too early. You got to get Julia on television wrestling a match though. I'd put her on that that CW premiere. I'd have her win a big match on on that CW premiere. And then that sets up the Halloween havoc match against Roxanne. You know what I would like to see? Julia versus the a hail. Oh, then Julia's taking a loss. I know. Sentient cocaine beating Julia. That's what I need in my life. Listen, Julia's got to learn to work the styles. She's got it. They got a breaker down and build her back up. This is the PC we're talking about. We're doing it right. The a hail beats Julia first night in. Mm. I'm out for it. We're going to do it. I don't think Roxanne is going to move up to the main roster just yet because you're getting back her and Julia and Delta coming in. And I think Roxanne is a good person to have with them to work with them on and off screen. I know they're, I don't know if they're even more experienced than Roxanne. Roxanne has been wrestling since she was like 12 or something like she's been and she's been in television wrestling for a while now. So I think she would be good to still have down there because the rest of not the, not every single woman in NXT, but a lot of them are the athletic background girls. They're not independent background girls. And that's obviously kind of what Vacher, I can, these are well traveled, not necessarily American independence, but overseas independence and things of that nature. So having Roxanne have that similar background will probably be good to start off, to start off with before Roxanne eventually goes up. It feels like Roxanne's probably going up next year, like she, she works out the rest of this year is in the rumble and goes up next year. >> To put it in the rumble, do you debut her on the Netflix Raw? >> I would go. >> You could do both. You can have her show up on the six raw, say I'm going to be in the rumble and build her up for a big rumble appearance, or you can just have her in the rumble, have a good showing it, both are possible. >> I'd say rumble, I think that's where she's probably going to be in. And it might not be even be until Raw after Mania, and that's when they end up doing the official call up, but I think she'll be at least, she'll be in NXT at least in the rest of this year. >> What do you think of the possibility of doing, I don't, I don't love this idea, but I want your thoughts on it. You've got Julia, you coming in, you've got Delta coming in, you've got Stephanie Vacher coming in, do you do a one-on-one match with all three women versus Roxanne and Roxanne either narrowly escapes or cheats her way or something happens that motivates a four-way? Do you want to do a four-way with these women to then be Roxanne's bye-bye? >> At King Super's pharmacy, care is making it easy to get vaccinated. Care is helping you stay protected from flu, COVID, and RSV. Mental vaccines are available seven days a week with evening hours. Care is giving you a shot at staying healthy this season. Walk in whenever is best and get multiple vaccines in one visit at your local King Super's pharmacy, so come and get the protection you need while protecting those around you. King Super's, a world of care is in store. Visit kingsuper's.com/vaccines for more, restrictions and exclusions apply seaside for details. >> Do you know those dreams you just don't want to wake up from, but you've got to roll out of bed to make them happen. Because you don't want to save your dreams for your sleep. Be okay, financial. Be okay, financial is a trademark of the BOKFNA member FDIC, equal housing lender. >> All three women kind of go to Ava and they're just like, "Come on, look at the footage." She's messed her way out of it, blah, blah, blah, like she doesn't deserve it, but she's a heel. That's kind of the other side of the story. So do you do something like that to motivate the inevitable title change when Roxie finally drops it? Or do you make somebody one-on-one? >> That's you. >> I got it, I got it, Joel, I got it. You have Roxie and narrowly escape all of this. She's the savvy NXT veteran, she's the heel, so she escapes all the one-on-one matches. They do the four-way match, right? Everyone thinks, "Oh, this is definitely where Roxie and it's finally losing." Bozilla comes in as Roxie and teeter. Let's go. >> Yes, Bozilla forever, Bozilla. And then they all join damage control, because damage control needed to change, and so far, the change has not been very, very good. So maybe that's the truth. >> That's been heard, unfortunately. >> Oh, I know, I can't wait until they're back to the match. I can't wait until they're back to 100%. Actually, I thought you were going to say she goes up to the main roster and drops the title like her hero, Asuka. You want to talk about good moves. You just go on a 500-500-day undefeated streak, and then just, "Bye, bye, NXT title. Have fun." That's what you do. She should tease that. She should tease me like, "I beat everyone. I'm going. Bye-bye." And then Ava, she'd just be like, "We're not doing this. You're going to defend the title." Bozilla, by the way, who is she? Bozilla is a fantastic wrestler who has made a lot of waves of marigold over in Japan. But she's-- >> Monster. >> She's a monster. Especially amongst all those women, she's a presence. You want to look up Bozilla. And on top of that, she's working marigold to the end of the year. At least that's her plan as of right now. And then after that, who knows where she goes. But I would love to see her state side, because that's a pickup. That's a long-term development you've got. >> It's happening at some point. It's happening. >> It has to. If marigold is going to be a feeder system at all to NXT or WWE, this is someone who needs to come that way, because she turned a lot of heads and got a lot of applause as early as like the first marigold shows. People were just-- they were all over her. I'd like to see that. Yeah, those are the big moments from No Mercy. It was just those three really big hit points. New taxing champions, Chase. You got turned on by Ridge Holland. That was a little bit expected. Poor Chase. >> Dude. Ridge Holland. >> Poor Andre Chase. >> Here's what I found. >> Poor my watch going off at that moment. I don't know what happened. Oh, apparently my watch tried to look up Ridge Holland and then found some stuff on Ridge Holland. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> What kind of Ridge Holland did you find? >> It was the Wikipedia entry. That's all it is. This thing goes off weirdest times. I have a series three Apple Watch. It's an old Apple Watch. But if you tell it to read you a story, it actually finds public domain stories and reads them to you. My kid loves it. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Anyway, Chase, you is currently not depleted, but they're not depleted. Done. They weren't destroyed. They were beat down by one man in his anger tendencies. He lost the tag titles for his team. I mean, technically Andre Chase did. But yeah, that's a thing that happened kind of expected. The champ U-shirts. Will you buy one? >> No. >> Coward. >> I was -- I mean, you said it was expected, like I guess so, but they've been teasing the fractium fracture for so long and then they just put the belt back on them and then they just had Ridge turn on Chase U. So I don't think it was a swerve for the sake of a swerve. Like there was some story there with Ridge and him helping Chase U, but what's his name? Duke Hudson being like, "I don't trust this guy," and then being proven right in the end. It seems like the fractium -- that's a dumb name, by the way -- Nathan Frazier and Axiom are going to be just fine. They just got the titles back and they'll continue to go along their merry way now until they defend them -- they'll defend them in like two weeks, like two weeks as their next side of defense, whoever wins this through-way match on Tuesday. >> Presumably Hank and Tank. >> I don't know if it's going to be them. I honestly might be callous. I know everybody wants the rascals and that will be the best match, but I don't know if they're going to put the rascals in that spot. I think I truthfully think it might just be galleous and then galleous loses. >> Does Wesley have a friend? Like does he have anyone that could -- do you have a team with him or that would join him? >> No, he's a fucking dick. He turned on his friends. He had friends. Then he was a prick. >> If Stephen Jensen were here, he'd be like, "Myron Reed is going to join Wesley." And like, listen, there's a part of me that's like, that would be great. Don't expect it. If it happened, wonderful. Great. Tell that story. But I don't know who it could be, because I assume it's going to turn into the tag team of some sorts. Wesley being like, "I'm the new rascals," taking on the original rascals. The winner gets the rascals name or something like that. I don't know. It's Shama. Listen, we just talked about Harlem Heat in WSW 2000. At one point, there were wrestlers fighting over a T and the name Harlem Heat. They were like, "What are the opportunities here that are presenting to us?" >> Maybe it's somebody on the come up that we aren't thinking to be a Lexus King or something. Maybe it's one of the college recruits that might be working live events but hasn't really been on television and that's who they get for this as a way to debut him as Wesley's kind of heater, I get Obafemi. That's what we should recruit. Look, I know about our issues. I can't challenge you for this title. How about we work together? I was like, "Yeah, sure." Beat the shit out of these T and A dudes. >> Why not? Dante Chan. It should be him. Everything should be Dante Chan. But also, I'm just looking at the roster. I wish Harvey Harvey or Barnall was back. That's someone that you can kind of have a little fun with in this story. But he's out. He's still injured as far as I understand. >> Add you somebody that maybe hasn't been on TV, you somebody that debut him in kind of a big spot here, assuming they got somebody ready, I don't know what they do, but assuming they do, then I'd put somebody in this spot and make them part of it. >> It's going to be Brooks Jensen. >> Yeah. >> Well, Josh Brick should not return as a he only should be a babyface. >> Yeah, Brooks Jensen, Shawn Spears, I guess, theoretically, it could be them. >> Yeah, I'd have it be somebody where Wes is like, "You know what? This guy was there for me when I was injured. He was at the PC every day as well. He really wanted to learn from me and talk to me, and he really wanted to learn from me and pick my brain, and he really motivated me when I was out injured and stuff. So you can do something like that. >> Yeah, that's fair. As we start to wind down, do we want to talk about capital collision real quick? I mean, the two matches, I guess there were three matches that show is trash compared to TNA emergence. >> Go ahead and tell the people why you hate Mercedes Monet. Go ahead. Go ahead. Floor is yours, Jeremy Lambert. >> Nah, I thought this was a really good show. I thought Mercedes and Momo was probably the best match on Friday night. I don't think it was very good. >> Yeah. It sounded like the TNA had some good decent matches, but Mercedes and Momo was levels above any of that gay kid, and Leo Rush was really good, and Mustafa Ali and Aromo was really good, much better than that first match. So it was one of the more inconsequential new Japan shows. Honestly, usually these new Japan shows, they kind of load up with some debuts, they have some challenges. Really, the only challenge to come out of this was Tana Hashi and Ishii step into TMDK. They were the number one contenders, they won the number one contender match earlier in the night, and then they stepped the TMDK after they defended the tag team titles and how it was set up for Royal Quest. Otherwise, it was an inconsequential, just kind of good wrestling show. And again, usually on these shows, it's like, "Oh, a champion wins, here comes somebody to confront him as the next challenger. Oh, the champion wins, here comes somebody to confront her as the next challenger." They didn't do any of that. It was just, "Here's some really good wrestling matches, and we move forward." My big problem with the show was just the visual quality of it. That's something they got to work on better. Just better cameras, more lights. It's technical stuff that I hope that new Japan USA starts putting a little more emphasis on. Or maybe they had plans and maybe something fell through, I don't know. But that was my one kind of turn off of the show itself. But the wrestling was good, because guess what? The wrestlers know how to wrestle, and they do a good job with it. By the way, you did mention matches from Emergence that were good. Maclyn and Eric Young was one that I did want to mention. It's a very classic style wrestling match, very straightforward storytelling in the ring. This was a match where if you watch these two men, you can tell they're having the best time, that they are loving the story that they're putting together. Watch that match. Maclyn and Eli put on a very, very solid match. So go check that out. It said the same thing in my post show review with Cresta that's on this channel. It was really strong stuff. Maclyn deserves it. And yeah, CEO did well too. Again, this was, thank you for doing the dance. Good match, man. Nobody was surprised to find out that Mercedes Monet was going to have a great match against Momo once an Abi. That was expected. Meanwhile, the Karoshita and Mercedes Monet is on the docket for all outs. He won a fatal four way to cheat on collision in the main event to get the spot. I watched collision. I wish I had just watched the main event of collision. So I'll, I'll say this about collision. I like and they did this with rampage as well. Throughout the show, they did video packages on the people in the main event that built to it and made it feel very important. I liked that from collision and from rampage. I want to see more of that. Now the goal is to make the rest of the show also feel important because collision, when I looked at this card and we talked about it on Friday, they had nothing announced for collision when we did our show on Friday, they finally, they finally announced matches during rampage. And then you looked at the lineup and it's like, okay, FTR and undisputed kingdom G wonder who's going to win that match. Oh, Orange Cassidy, Kyle O'Reilly and hologram against Lee Moriarty, Johnny TV and I don't be smoke more toast, apologies to be smoke toast. I do like him G wonder who's going to win that match. It was just a lot of matches that you kind of knew who was going to and then they announced like buddy Matthews and co-man there on like Saturday at five o'clock like, okay, like it's a lot of inconsequential matches. Now sometimes it leads to something that grizzled young vets come out and attack FTR, but you just like beat undisputed kingdom again, which fine, but like they were just your ROH tag team champions. So you're just kind of telling us like, yeah, that doesn't really matter. Matthews beating co-man there led to MXM collection kind of issuing a challenge. Random, very random. Very, very random. Yeah. And then Kyle O'Reilly in Orange Cassidy are now teaming with Will Osprey because Pac was like, I got some friends and I want to face you in a trio's match. We still, by the way, don't really have an explanation of why Pac and Claudia win you to our friends after Pac screwed them over in blood and guts last year. And also he said it because he got his Wembley moment. He basically said so in his promo. And I guess Claudia was just like forgetting about the Okada stuff. He's like, yeah, sure. Let me do this random trio's match that the feud is Osprey and Pac and let's just forget about me going to a time. Here's the gimmick for Claudia. You ready? Short term memory loss. He should be like really feuding with the Bucks though, because he had the time limit draw against FTR, right? And then that went nowhere because that's when Dax got hurt and he took the time off, but Brandon Cutler was like, nope, you don't get more time. And then he had the time limit draw against Okada and the Bucks were like, nope, you don't get more time. This is the contract. Claudia should be like the time limit draw guy. I don't know how this gimmick actually pays off into anything except he just keeps going to time limit draws and then they just forget about him. The Bucks are just like, no, you can't go further. And Claudia has got to wrestle at like a faster pace than he already does. He's like, shit, I can't go 20 minutes. It's like WWE speed. I can't go 20 minutes. If I go to time limit draw they're going to screw me over and they're not going to give me more time. So he's like wrestling. He's like really trying to beat these guys even quicker than before. And then finally, he does get a match against the Young Bucks or Brandon Cutler, because the Young Bucks don't feel like taking this L. He gets a match against Brandon Cutler and beats him. He's like, all those time limit draws are worth it because I beat Brandon Cutler who said I could not have more time. That's my gimmick for Claudia. I prefer short term memory loss at some point, like they got to do something with this, right? Like, I don't know if they will, but it's there. It's there to do something. I mean, this is always the this is always the thing with a w is they're they're really good at calling back like TK does this where whenever he's promoting a match, he brings up the history between the opponents when it's a big match. But oftentimes that level of thought isn't necessarily being brought through to average fans. And this is a whole other conversation about storytelling and presentation and all that, but like I give them the credit of making the connections, but I don't like the fact that the connections are made so either so loosely or so far away that if you're not following, you're not rewarded. That's always been my big concern or my biggest issue with with with a w and some of the storylines that they have is that they'll reach back to pull something in and it's like cool. I really have to be a historian to watch the show. And that is that that's Tony Tony is a wrestling historian. He's a huge fan and he's got good ideas, but some of those ideas get lost in the shuffle of his head. And as a result, some of the stories just don't conglomerate as well as they could see what I did there. So yeah, that's that's kind of where my brain is at when I'm when I'm watching AWS, like I really have to be in that bubble to understand why we're doing this, or I have to do the homework. And this is what I've talked about million times over. I hate any wrestling company that makes you do extra work to understand why something's important on their show. So I hope they fix it. I'd love to see them. It opens up your your fan base. It opens up your the accessibility of your products when you make the fans who are new understand why you should buy in and why you should care about something that may have happened three years ago. That way you know it happened. They used to do a very good job of like picking up on these little things and making them feel important or threading them together and calling back to them where now a lot of the stuff just falls through the cracks more than it should. And I don't think there's an actual plan for Claudio in these time limit draws mind you. Maybe there is maybe there is, but it doesn't feel like it again. I know Dax got hurt. And so maybe they couldn't follow up whatever they want to follow up to. Where's the follow up for Claudio and Ocada? There's no reason for this not to be followed. Claudio should be pissed. Claudio should be like, you didn't beat me. I should be the continental champion or at least you got to prove you could beat me for this title. Instead, he's just like, yeah, I'm trio champion now. I'll just kind of be friends with Park even though he's screwed us over at Blood and Guts. Like there was no doesn't seem like there's any care any plan into this and maybe it seems like a minor thing and all you guys are nitpicking little stuff like this adds up. The black pull combat club, I've talked about many times, they never feel like they're together. Their heels one week, their faces one week, sometimes it makes sense. Sometimes they do a good job with it and it's like, oh, yeah, they would hate that person for this reason. They would like that person. That's fine. But like, they also just don't seem together at all. When one guy gets attacked and nobody there to make a save, it's like, are you guys friends? Are you guys like really together? Mox doing this whole thing now, apparently, Claudio and Brian just don't even care that he's back and doing this. There's no concern at all for him. He's like, yeah, this is just Mox being Mox. All right. Cool. Yeah, it's strong. Listen, strong, strong collision in terms of building up the story for the main event. Yes. And like you said, I want to see more of that too. I want to see this turn into part of their presentation because you had the rant earlier. So go back to the 50th minute of the show. There's your short, by the way, about the WWE presentation of sports and what their best at it. That's the short, by the way. It doesn't get short. Yeah, that's the production of for you. We get it online today. But if you go back and if you listen to that, that is what I hope AEW knobs onto, not that they become a WWE-like presentation, but that they take that sports-like presentation of a video package hyping up a show and making it part of it regularly. Because that's something that I've always wanted from AEW is let things breathe a little bit and move it forward so that we can understand the importance of a moment. And that's what they did on Saturday. And that's what they did with this four way. And the match was good. You know, she did defeat Queen Amanada. People were definitely wanting Amanada to get the opportunity. And I think that this will happen down the line as well for Mercedes. Serena D was also involved in Thunder Rosa as well. These are four women that inevitably will face Mercedes Monet in some way, shape, or form, whether it's on a TV show or a pay-per-view. She does up next. They're doing the second one. This will be good. All that's looking like it's going to be a solid wrestling card. And we'll see what they add on Wednesday on Dynamite. I think wrestling-wise, it's going to be really strong. Like, bell-to-bell stuff, they got a really good lineup for all out. Maybe people don't care about it because the build is only two weeks and some of it feels rushed. But otherwise, the bell-to-bell-wise, I'm looking at this lineup, I'm like, "Oh, yeah, all these matches are going to be really good." You know what? School just started. Paul Driver Finisher is going to go do his homework for AEW programming and study up. Finals are next week. Don't forget about it. Finals are on Saturday. All out. Study up. That's right. Gotta get ready for Saturday. We're going to have previews. Of course. Sure. We'll have plenty to talk about. Raw tonight's Intercontinental Championship, number one contender's tournament. Seamus Bronson Reed, a little bit Kaiser. Kaiser's going to lose again. I think Bronson Reed continues on this tormenting quest. If you're going to have Bronson Reed lose, one, you shouldn't have him take a pinfall. So this would be an easy way of like Seamus Pins, Kaiser, or Kaiser Pins, Seamus. Because I, if I'm having Bronson Reed win, I guess it's a four-way match to determine who becomes number one contender. So he doesn't have to take a loss there either. As long as Bronson doesn't take an L of five, maybe Bronson comes back and attacks Bronson something like that. Man, I said it last week. This is what I want. Ludwig and Seamus are a big broke kick. Seamus goes through the pin one, two out of nowhere. Bronson Reed hits the splash to break up the pin. And then turn it around, get the pin on either Seamus or Ludwig, probably Ludwig. But Seamus, they both men are out and he just e-pins it and he wins it. That's what I want. Intercontinental championship number one contender is also on their Iliad Dragonov Dragon Lee and Dirty Dominic Mysterio. Does Dragon Lee finally get a win or does Dominic Mysterio eke it out? Or do we get Iliad Dragonov moving forward? Because it's been a while since we've seen him on TV. I kind of think Dominic might win this. I don't know why, I just do. Put him in the four way. I mean, listen, he's a versatile performer. Why not? Who does he pins? Who gets to pin Dragon Lee in this match? Dominic. Dominic pins Dragon Lee. Yeah. Yeah. That's fine. It's the lead of anger versus Shayna Baszler. Sure. Sure. Number one contender is match for the tag titles, women's tag titles on Holy Union against damage control. That's E.O. Sky and Kyrie Sane. Damage control look like they might be up next at this rate. It should. I look on Holy Union against J.D. Bianca was fun at Bastion Berlin. But I want to see damage control against J.D. Bianca. Although I guess damage controls are baby faces now, so maybe it doesn't quite work. No, you can make it work. Damage control kind of works tweener right now because this is just a become a respect match. And also just the size differential that they'll play up with damage control versus J.D. especially. I think there'll be some fun moments in there might be good to see. J.D. and Bianca have their tag team championship celebration. I assume that's going to happen before this number one contendership match it will all bleed in. They'll have the champion sitting ringside blah, blah, blah, and that'll be that. That's fine. That's not the first time, not the last time. And then in the main event, presumably American may take on Alpha Academy. I don't think this is the main event. I think this is. Anything? This is just a match. I would put the shameless triple threat as the main event. Yeah. That's the one I would do. American may take on Alpha Academy. That's going to be the creeds in Ivy Nile versus Otis Akira Tzawa and Maxine Dupri. They're fine. They had something with Otis. They had something with Otis like a month ago and it ain't there anymore. I think they missed their shot with doing a real, I don't know if you could push Otis to the moon or anything. I'm not saying that, but they had a real chance to make him more than comedy tag team guy and they missed it with the gable stuff and I don't know if you can go get back around to it. They might try. They might try with this, but I don't know if it's there anymore. We'll find out tonight, Ra is going to be on. We'll talk about it on Wednesday in a whole test tour on the call. Very curious to see how he does go test a tourist first night on raw. This will be good. It'll be a good show for him to get his get his feet wet with a bunch of triple threat matches a lot going on. So we'll see how it plays out, but yeah, this is this is a interesting looking Rob. We'll see. We'll see how it plays out. We'll talk about it on Wednesday. We'll be back on our main channel that is Fightful Over Book our main channel, not this one. It's our main channel. But our main channel is Fightful Over Book for live Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays, 10 a.m. Eastern. Jeremy and I will be back on Wednesday at the time just mentioned. Anything you want to plug before we get on out of here? Surprisingly, yes, our interview with Mike Rallis and Taneel Dashwood is going up literally right after this show. So everybody can go over to Fightful Over Book right now. You know what? I'll publish this live on air for everybody. Oh, so everyone can go over to Fightful Over Book in seconds and check out the interview that we did with Mike Rallis and Taneel Dashwood talking about the BOP wrestlers combine that is coming up on Wednesday. And we talked about kind of wrestling during COVID, how they both sort of navigated that. So I talked about the growth of WPC and the combines they used to hold the WPC Joel asked a very good question about Mike wrestling Gunther at Elimination Chamber and how that was not really in the plans and then it became in the plans. And then we talked about Paul Haman and Paul Haman's belief in Mike and what he saw in him and his relationship with Paul Haman. And I asked if Kevin Durant ever reached out to try to get training tips for Mike as well. So really fun interview. We do it like 35 minutes. 31 minutes, we ran a time on our side, we had other stuff going on. Yeah. So we had to pump them because we're the stars, right? It's really, really fun interview. Everyone go check it out. It should be up right now if it is not refresh your feed, but Fightful Over Booked dot com. Everyone go check out that. Check that out. Articles will be running. I'm sure as well from this. I'm literally about to publish one after the show too. There we go. Jeremy Lambert, I am Atrel Pearl, Joey LPARL, ladies, gentlemen, friends beyond the binary. We'll see you in the next one. Cheers. At King Super's Pharmacy, Care is making it easy to get vaccinated. Care is helping you stay protected from flu, COVID and RSV. 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