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Oh, yes, we got a three man booth to start. We're going to jump right into wrestling here, but first, Mo's, how you doing, buddy? Feeling good, man. Good to hear Emil's voice. Haven't seen him in a minute. Good to see you guys. Haven't seen you guys in a minute. Good morning, man. Good morning. We appreciate joining us a little bit of a different show today. Usually Jensen has a hard out at 10, because he's got a shoot job that he has to get to, but not tonight, not today. Not this morning. Go a little extra long today. Hopefully if people watch in the weeds you heard yesterday, they were doing a bunch of jackhammering as we get out, get work done on our house. We won't be, I won't subject anybody to that. So I'll be here as long as they're not being too loud downstairs. Jensen will be here for as long as he wants to be here, Bo's will be here for as long as he wants to be here. We're supposed to have another special guest joining us a little bit later on. So we're going to be a little bit all over the place today. Jensen, how you doing, man? I'm doing good, man. I'm in full-on vacation mode, got the neck beard going. How do you even bother shaving? Just got back from the casino last night, lost a little bit of money, but had a good time. So, yeah, I can't take him playing, but it's good to see you, Jeremy, good to see Mo's. But it was had a big weekend, you know, we had a lot to talk about. So in the wrestling world, we have a lot to talk about, all in, was obviously a massive show, looking forward to giving him a review of that. I died on my last night, was really good, AEW, Bachelorette, I'm looking forward to. This weekend is stupid. This is just a dumb weekend for wrestling. We just had GCW Homecoming weekend. That just happened. We got plenty to talk about there. So I mean, there's some good topics today. So yeah, hey, Darko Fingey says, AEW neck beard. I got, I'm loud and proud of the neck beard today, y'all. This is straight up vacation mode. This is too lazy to even bother shaving this week. So taking full advantage. Anyways, it's good to see y'all, and yeah, I don't know if you want to jump into like any AEW first, Jeremy, or we want to talk some TWE. Where do you want to start with this thing? You tell me. Let's start with some AEW, because I know people are very excited to talk about AEW and all in in the show that they had. So let's go with AEW. There were a million fans and a great number in the demo tuned in, and it was a great show. And I think it's been a run of great shows. The GOAT, the greatest wrestler of all time, argue with a wall. I don't care. Brian Danielson, the new AEW World Champion, defeated Sir Strickland in the main event career on the line. He did it. Stephen Jensen. The best main event match all year. The only real story that needed to be finished all year. The most important story, the most important, the biggest title win of the year. In front of the most fans of the year, Jensen, how does it feel to know that Cody Rhodes got overshadowed by Brian Danielson and proved himself as the greatest wrestler and the best story of the year? You know what, Jeremy? I was actually prepared for a, I was actually prepared for a, a barrage like that, whatever you want to call that. Like I figured you'd be coming in hot. I saw the thumbnail for today's show. So you know, I mean, all I'm going to say, Jensen, all I'm going to say, that's not bad. All I'm going to say though, you like that, I had, I had, I had to just burn out and make a backup. Like just, yeah, I saw, I saw your goat thumbnail and I hit him up last night and I was like, it's burnt out. I need to, I need a quick favor if you can do this for me, bud. And he, he made, he made me a Cody Rhodes version because I figured, I figured we'd be talking a lot of Danielson today. Well, listen, dude, I don't know. Hold on. Sorry. Hold on. All right. Tell me what I'm telling lies. Uh huh. Did Brian Danielson need interference to win the AEW world title? No. Did he need 13 different people coming in to win the AEW world title? No. Was it bloodline rules though? You know what I'm saying? Like, a little bit different circumstances. Listen, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm going to, you know, you have, you don't have to go through all this and we'll let most get some thoughts in two because I'm sure it's plenty of thoughts on Brian Danielson and him become the AEW champion after this, this long career he's had. That moment was awesome. I'm not going to see you here and like roast Brian Danielson from all engine compared to Cody Rhodes of WrestleMania. Two completely different things, both awesome moments in two different companies. I love both companies right now. Like, I think GoToB's killing, I think AEW's killing it. I was joking about the Cody Rhodes go thing. I decided to be kind of a funny troll thing to have ready and you, you laid it right off right at the top of the show. So I went ahead and I just got that bit out of the way. Thank you. Just birded by the way for doing that for me, but no, dude, that was awesome. That was absolutely awesome. Like the, we, we called it last week. We were like, they're really leaning into the yes chance, which makes sense. They're about to be at a stadium full of people at Wembley. They want them all doing that me and Jeremy were both the WrestleMania 30. I don't know if you were there as well, Mo is in New Orleans, but, but that night, you know, was a, was a great night and mostly remember for everybody chanting yes with Brian Danielson after he beat Triple H in the opening match and then the main event when he beat Batista and Randy Orton, I see all these fans online that are like fighting each other and arguing each other, which was the better moment for Danielson was at WrestleMania. Was it Wembley? At the end of the day, like who, I shouldn't say who cares, but like, you know what I mean? We should be fighting over that because this dude has had two of the greatest moments in the history of professional wrestling. I'm not going to sit here and say he isn't the goat. Like my favorite wrestler of all time is Cody Rhodes. Everyone knows that, but I think Cody's still got, he's still got stuff he's got to accomplish before he's actually legitimately in the goat conversation. I'll, I'll be real about that. Um, and, but I think that Danielson legitimately has solidified himself where if somebody was to say, Brian Danielson is the best wrestler of all time, I'm not going to argue it. I, I got, I have that level respect for Danielson as a level respect for Swerve. I thought both of them totally killed that I thought Swerve did great in his entire title reign and like, it cemented as a main event guy from now on coming from a guy who we knew was going to lucha underground under a mask, who we knew was better than having to be on 205 Live, who we knew was better than being like, like over the WWE super fast and hit row and all that stuff. He's, he's at. So Swerve is reaching his potential. Danielson's a goat. Everything worked out. Matt was awesome. It could be the champion right now. So I, I got, I'm not going to sit here and even like pretend like I'm not happy for Brian Danielson. I know that that wasn't awesome. Most, how do you feel about all this? My goat is Samoa Joe just a, if y'all want to roast me or get some things going on that, get some graphics going. That's fine. I don't think nothing's bad about Samoa Joe. That man, who, who's your goats? No, Samoa Joe does rule. That's the one. Uh, no, I totally agree with you, Jits and like Danielson's up there for me. Like I've always been a fan, obviously great, great at getting emotion out of every crowd and everywhere he's been. He may not have made it needed interference, but he definitely did the love of his family, which is in that actually part of the story. Well, I mean, yeah, but I just feel like Birdie is almost like a tag team partner at this point. Like I think we're going to get A.W. tag titles on those two before he retires, Brian telling you. It was a beautiful moment. I mean, I don't know what else to add to you. What it was, they did such a good job. Like, I thought Brian was going to win, but you know what I mean, there was just enough of like, maybe he does go out and Wembley with the family there. So they did a good job with that. Great match. Amazing moment. I think last night the little, you know, his promo coming out was really good. So I have nothing, nothing to hate on, you know, and I'm such a big box wrestling hater at times, but you guys are nailing it like the big box wrestling is doing awesome right now. You have some great stories. I will watch Daniel sin like with anybody. I know it's before he retires. Hey, Brian, if you hear this, please wrestle Daniel a copy. He really wants that. Yeah. We really, really wants that, but I just as somebody that obviously, you know, when you're around when you're watching wrestling as much as we are, it's easy to kind of kind of lose that at times, lose that magic, you know what I mean? Like you get too much in the numbers and all the extra BS, but it was a beautiful moment. It was something that professional wrestling, that's what makes it just the amazing thing at it is is those kind of moments where you're, you're just sitting there going like, you know, wow, like what, what's better than this man with everything he's been through with this beautiful title in front of 40 G or you know, all these people and the family they're like, it was just, they know that they absolutely nailed it on a great paper view too. And I want to say too, because Swerve's such a great talent. I met him years ago down in the show in Tennessee and he was so just like, just such a cool dude. You know what I mean? So that short reign, I mean, you know, in the grand scheme of things, it was not a very long reign, but he really made that title feel, you know, elevated and everything mattered. And I just, I love Swerve and I'm so happy, I'm so happy for Danielson because man, like, you know, you felt it last night on the, on Dynamite, man, that crowd is just like every, you know, every word, every second with him in that ring, they're soaking up. And that's something that we don't do enough, right? We don't, we don't give people their flowers while they're still here. I know we've lost Brian a couple times, but it's just, you know, those are the moments we need more of when, you know, when we can for sure, but just appreciating greatness. And he's great, he's, he's, he's not some other Joe, but he's, he's, he's, he's great. You have more to add to that Jeremy, I'm sure you have plenty. I don't know how much you've already talked about all this, like before, today, but. Look, he's, he's my favorite wrestler of all time. I think he's the greatest wrestler of all time. I mean, there's, there's plenty of debates to be had about that. But if you don't think Brian Danielson is a top five in ring performer, I don't, I don't know what to tell you. Like the dude, the dude is outstanding to me in every aspect of professional wrestling. I love this match. I thought it was great. I love the little moments. Like I was very confident in him winning this match because I just didn't think he was going to retire just yet because mainly because I think, and it's more or less confirmed. He wants to do one off matches still. So with him doing like, oh, a retirement means theoretically you shouldn't be doing one off matches because you have lost. You have retired and Swerve said as much in the go home promo of like, if you try to do a one off match, I'm going to be there. And I'm going to remind you that, no, you can't do this. I'm going to break you even even further. So that's why I didn't think he was going to lose. They sold me on a number of times that he might actually lose though. The multiple house call kicks like, oh, and then the big pressure, the JML driver, when that hit, I was like, he is he going to lose? And then he kicked out. But they sold me on him potentially losing this match and that was, that was an excellent professional wrestling match. I'm happy to see Brian Danielson get his moment. I'm happy to see him be the champion. I don't think it's going to be a long reign. You know, he's going to face Jack Perry and all out. I've booked that he might lose a wrestle dream. I could very easily see him because that's in Washington. Huh? Did we lose Jeremy for a second? Oh, oh, we're back, Jeremy. OK, I think that I think he could lose as soon as wrestle dream because that's in Washington. He loses everyone he said last night that his full time career is done once he loses the title. So he loses, but everyone knows, OK, that's it for full time. Obviously, he's still going to do a lot of one off stuff, but it gets big standing ovation from the Washington crowd and everything. And there's just that understanding of like, right, Daniel, since done full time, let's give him a big standing ovation send off here. So I don't think it's going to be a long reign, but he's going to have an all out match. He's going to face Darby at Grand Slam. And then wrestle dream could be could be. Oh, he was in Jeremy. Can you hear me? OK, most of you, am I still good for you? OK, so me and most are so good. Yeah, it's me. It's me back now. OK, yeah, back. It's just, it's only that's only the second time that's happened, though. But it's not happening for long. So we'll see how long anyway, I think wrestle dream could be the end is Jensen. What are you like, what are you looking at this title range? Do you think it's going to be a little bit longer? Do you think it's going to be, I don't know if it can be shorter than that. He loses it all out. Yeah, I don't see him losing it all out to Jack Perry. Although I am 100% for them getting rid of the TNT championship. If they want to do that in like a like a unification match, but I don't think that's necessarily what they're doing. I've said just for a long time that I think AWS too many title belt. So like that'd just be a good way of maybe getting rid of one of them, in my opinion. I feel like the TNT title doesn't hold a lot of weight when you already have an international championship anti-continental championship and an FTW championship, which I think Taz has been alluding on social media to like maybe hook retiring that. I don't know if they mentioned anything about that on dynamite that I missed. I mean, Roderick Strong, he lost to Roderick Strong tapped out to hook, but his foot was underneath ropes and then yeah, and then Roddy knocked him out after the match with the knee and then held up the FTW title. So it seems like they're at least going to continue for a hook in Roddy feud. Yeah. Yeah. I was basing what I was saying off of a tweet that I saw the other night of Taz saying something like yeah, I talked to Hook, we're going to talk about like the future of this thing or whatever, but he didn't like specifically say the FTW title, but I feel like that's what he was alluding to. But I can see Hook and Rod, I mean, Hook and Roddy, we can match. I mean, once again, like, anyway, that's a whole other sidebar conversation about like the too many titles thing. As far as, as far as Daniel Sin and Jack Perry go, I do expect Daniel Sin to win, but I think it'll be a good match that like continues to elevate Perry, like as like a would see one thing I really like about what he's doing right now that they're really solidified on last night's show on Dynamite is them actually, like they're going with like the homegrown talent at the top now, like pretty heavily, like you have, you have, that you have, geez, I'm blank. Sorry, Daniel Garcia came out and he, he's going to be wrestling MJF and like, they're clearly all of it and Garcia can very well win that match too. I mean, like, maybe humongous for him, but he, if he want to actually win it, or if it's even competitive enough that you think he's going to win a bunch of times, like, so you have Daniel Garcia at the top, like going towards the top, you have Jack Perry at the top going for the world title, um, Moxley said that kind of like crypto thing at the beginning of the show about like, this is your company anymore. He wants to wrestle Darby Allen and the two of them have history as like partners and allies and stuff. It's like the beginning of a w and Darby's also one of those homegrown guys. I think should be at the top. So I think there's a real movement right now of like, kind of like, Daniel's in the champion and obviously he's established he's a veteran, but his ultimate goal with his championship made clear by his promo last night is like, he wants to leave a w in a spot where like, the future's ready to go and they don't really feel like they don't need him anymore full time. But as far as I'm dropping in and having matches, I mean, of course I want to see him wrestle Dana Macauvey on the indies, like, are you kidding me? Like, of course I want to see it. That would pull Macauvey out of his own retirement to do that match. Um, which is fantastic by that whole Macauvey like retirement run was actually, which is similar to kind of where we're getting with Danielson right now. Yeah. It was like ironic enough, but call by analysis retirement in advance. So everyone had a heads up of like going to the show and being and knowing it was going to be like the last time they could see him live and like he had his dream matches all lined up with like the guys like Thatcher and and, uh, you know, everything he had, everything he did, like leading up to his actual retirement match against Kevin too, which was incredible. Um, and Kevin too, master credit to him, he was injured and he couldn't take other bookings and still did that match because it meant so much to him because him and the public relationship. So, um, anyway, that's the whole other conversation. And I'm saying a lot of this stuff because Moses right here, who's literally calling these matches I'm talking about, um, which is incredible that we got most right here to talk about this. But anyway, yeah, that's all I feel about Danielson's run. I have no idea how long it'll last, but I'm glad that he didn't put it. I'm letting him pigeonhole himself by losing the match at Wembley retiring and then having to have some like lame, weird way of like coming back or like just going against it or hell, I could see him popping up in the WWE for like a couple of random matches maybe if he's not under contract and like everyone's cool with him doing whatever he kind of wants like Jericho pops up in random WWE stuff, he hasn't been wrestling for them, but I mean, I feel like here's the possibility there. Danielson didn't burn his bridges with that company, he saw his friends there. So I want to see Danielson do whatever he wants to do, but like, you know, maybe he only does it, you know, maybe three, four times a year instead of full time going forward. But this is great. This is the best of both worlds for you. I feel like Jeremy dude wins the world championship and in front of that crowd, he's going to be the world champion and when you when you lose the title, it's not like it's him losing the title when you retire Shriver, we just know it's dream matches from now on after this. So like, I'd be pretty stoked as a Danielson fan and as a Danielson fan, I am so most. How do you feel? And do you want to add anything to the whole Macaw Bay kind of like Southeast stuff? I just kind of threw out there. We both talk to you here pretty shortly. I'm definitely going to talk some, you know, that's up to you. No, yeah, I, I think that, I mean, that's a match that I mean, it'd be, I mean, especially with Washington with Daniel, I believe he lives in Vancouver. I know you at some point did, if he doesn't anymore, like he's been a big part of the Seattle and Washington state wrestling, you know, you've seen him in big matches there. So I know, you know, if we could get that match, especially like in the Seattle area, I think that would be so amazing for, I mean, those two guys, but that fan base, that scene that is seeing so much of, you know, of Daniel's indie because, you know, they're the last few years and I know COVID kind of screwed things up for Macaw Bay because of, you know, where he lives and everything and like, straight everything for all of us, immediately point. I think that, you know, those last few years, when he was kind of, you know, it sporadically here, sporadically there being, you know, that real life stuff. I think that Daniel, for Macaw Bay was that goal of like, I don't know if he ever thought he would get it, you know what I mean, and he probably still doesn't, but talk him to him that last little bit, the coup weekend and, you know, it's just that you could hear it in his voice that like, I'm done, like I, unless it's Daniel sin, like I will not be, you know, I'm happy to ride off in the sunset with the career. I mean, this is a guy you got to think that the first time he competed down here in the south, the crowd didn't know him, you know, it was in, it was in the scenic city, it was in Chattanooga, and they didn't really know what to think about him, and then by the end of that first match, that SCI weekend, I mean, he's a, he's beloved, you know what I mean? It's like, it's, you're talking about Jay Newman, you're talking about Brett Ice, and you're talking about these names in Chattanooga in the scenic city that means something, AC Mac. And Daniel Macaw Bay's name is right there, it's not at the top, I mean, you had people crying, you know, after that amazing match with coup, and just, it's, it's been amazing to see that. It's been really cool to be a part of that story of Daniel, and getting to call some of his matches, and, and, and I would love for him to get that, man. I think not only for his own reasons, but that would be just a hell of a match. You're talking about the respect, the, the technical, like you were saying, Jeremy, with, with everything, you know, Brian does it so clean, it's so smooth, and Macaw Bay's the same way. It just, it would be like butter, just melted butter on a big old stack of pancakes that match. So, yeah, if we got wishes, maybe if we put all of our wishes together, we can get it. Maybe Jeremy's ride and Daniel will win the AEW title in Seattle or whatever for Russell Dream. Uh, but yeah, that's, that's the match that like, yeah, shout out Daniel for everything he did, you know, everything he did in this business, like you can't stress the miles, the travel, like being away from home, it sucks at times, and Daniel is just always happy to get in that ring, happy to, you know, give advice, happy to help that next generation. So it's been an absolute pleasure for Macaw Bay, and yeah, if I could, if I had three wishes, I would, I would for sure give, give one of those to Dan and get that match. And I, I'm with you though, I think, I think you said it though about Danielson real quick. I would not be shocked if he loses that title, that makes a lot of sense that you said, Jeremy, that makes a lot of sense. I think that'd be really, that's something that he would be okay with. And like you both mentioned, it's not like it's over now, we know that he can lose that title and go away for a few months and be a dad and be husband and be a hippie and come back and, and dream matches, maybe dream matches. So yeah, I think, I think you guys are just on the roll day, maybe spotlight. Danielson is very aware of Daniel Macaw Bay. Yeah. It's not like this is not on his radar. He's mentioned facing Macaw Bay. He's mentioned that he likes Macaw Bay and is seen as matches. He's kind of mentioned possibly defy as where it happened, which defy obviously as a big present in, in that Northwest area. So I wouldn't rule it out. I really would not rule that out because I do think he, he does, he also talks about liking like the kind of intimate smaller settings and doing like an indie, indie kind of stuff. Like, I do think he wants to go and have some one off indie matches around the country. And I could very easily see him just at some point, maybe as early as next year, just think, all right, let's, let's do this Daniel Macaw Bay match. Like this is a match that a, a very hardcore fan base once, but there's a, an obvious clamoring for it. And Danielson always talks about, always talks about like wanting to give back and everything as well, and like what bigger way to give back, not only to someone like Macaw Bay. So just the, the world of wrestling in general, but like, hey, let me go to defy for a one off show and boost their visibility and boost, you know, the fan base there and boost, you know, who is, who is seeing them and who can see me in this like smaller setting and come into this area that maybe AEW, they're, they're, they're doing more in the West, but maybe they haven't gone to as much like that seems like something Brian Danielson would be open to doing. So I wouldn't be shocked to see it again, maybe as early as next year. Yeah. What do you say? And also, I mean, obviously, I mean, let's just assume that Danielson continues to have some sort of working relationship or like loose contract with AEW. Right now he's saying he has no contract, but he does love to lie, learn how to lie from Cody. I don't know exactly what Danielson's contract status is. I don't think he has a contract, like I, I fully believe there's no other contract. He's on basically a handshake verbal deal and just a, he just trust me, bro, which I think Danielson has earned that and Tony, clearly him and Tony Khan have a lot of love and respect for each other. Yeah. I don't think we have to worry about Danielson showing up on wrong, throwing the title belt in the trash can or anything like that. I mean, I sure hope that isn't the case. But the reason I bring up the contract thing at all is because assuming he's on, he winds up under some sort of loose part-time contract or something, some more to like what the WWE does with like legends deals, the AEW will probably start doing stuff like that. Like Jim Sting might be under something like that. He's like hardly ever. I don't know how that works with them. But it's one of those things where like the reason I bring that up is because Tony Khan knows who Daniamikabe is also like, he knows, he knows these indie people we're talking about. Like I'll never forget over WrestleMania weekend this year during that Ring of Honor press conference after the pay-per-view when Tony Khan was like, I couldn't be at action being tonight because of work. But you know, I really wish. And it's like this dude was in the middle of running AEW and Ring of Honor over WrestleMania weekend. But like was bummed out, he couldn't make it to action being. It's like, yeah. When you're talking about that, you're paying attention to these people we're talking about. So Danielson were to go to Tony Khan and be like, man, there's this guy again, Mikabe. Like it'd be great. It'd be bad. We'd do it in Seattle. Tony would be like, I don't Mikabe, I used to talk to him on the Death Valley Driver Message Board. It's like, yeah, you know what I mean? So that's another just great thing about Tony Khan. Like people can have their criticisms about like certain ways that he books the company and his dad's money and this and that. But like, you're being like, you know, pulled you in any direction, stretched thin by the NFL and soccer and wrestling, all that stuff. But one thing you can't knock is that guy actually is a lifelong hardcore fan of professional wrestling. And he is tapped into the indie scene. So that's a good thing for a wrestling. I think. Yeah, we thought like literally that was the buzz was I had, you know, we had heard a TK maybe coming to the show and you know, I know him and Dylan have known each other for years. So I'm staying, you know, being cool, like, I don't really care, but it's in the back of my mind, you're like, maybe Tony Khan shows up and he hears me talk a little bit, man. And he likes what he hears, but yeah, that's also, I just want to add real quick. I love him. Dylan Hell's keep that too. And you guys are, you guys are making great points TK and Dylan known each other since those message board days. So maybe, maybe action guy. What if we get it at TW? What if we get it in the city city? Come on. Come on, TK. Get help out, Dylan. Hell's like Dylan. Hell's like this big fish. Oh my gosh. I know it's getting the TW arena would be nice. Hey, I don't know if there's much more intimate right now than the historic infamous TWA arena. No. We're going to get more and more to that. But how much time do you have, by the way, Mo's, we're doing a little bit more E.W. And then I definitely want to know. I've got a bet on the Colorado, North Dakota state game later than not, baby. That's all I got going on. Okay. Sweet. I mean, I appreciate you joining us. You're in Tennessee right now. Right. You were central time. So you will have central time to talk to us. Yeah. Well, I didn't I didn't sleep. Great. Last night was a lot of fun. Had a really good day. Like yesterday was the first day in a minute that like I had nothing wrestling like I got my, you know, we got KOBK show coming up in a week, but like everything's kind of, you know, kind of going well. And so yesterday was a chill day. I got to hang out with my wife. We got to like eat good Thai food. So like I am I am ready to go today, baby. Like I got one rest. Like I got one book in this weekend. I got college football. You could not be happier to be with you guys. I can't lie. Perfect. You played. You've played the college football game. Right. Absolutely. Okay. Finally found someone. Yes. I bought, I bought Madden. It's been pissing me off. There's a lot of unrealistic stuff that goes down this mat again. I had a dude, I was, everyone goes for it on fourth down online and I was playing last night. It was fourth and like 12. I was on defense, dude, like hands the ball off to the running back, running back runs into their own quarterback spins out the wrong direction. My defender doesn't even go for the sack or the tackle. Like a stanza and watches them go by, dude runs like 60 yards into the end zone off of like a fourth and 12. I just turned my system off. I griefed the dude. I was like, shit, shit, shit, don't change, shit, don't change. Like I hadn't even played this. I hadn't played Madden in like a decade. I finally bought it because NCAA came out. Everyone got all hyped up on the games again. I was like, screw it. I'm gonna get mad in this year. Anyway, sorry, Jeremy. I'm taking, I'm still in your thunder. You've been looking for somebody who's playing NCAA for months. Well, I've been playing Madden, so I bought, I bought like the package deal. Oh, right. It was just kind of more cost efficient to do that. But I haven't played Madden for years because honestly, it's always, at least for the past few years, it's sucked. And I have no reason. And my team sucks. So like, I don't feel like investing a bunch of money on a game where my team's not very good. So I didn't play Madden for years, but I got it this year because again, cost efficient and synergy with college football. Madden sucks. Mose, what do you think about college football 25? Could not be happier. It's frustrating, but in the right ways, it's unrealistic, as you're saying, Jensen, but kind of in the right ways because thinking about college football, man, that is unrealistic at times. That's what makes it so crazy is you can have a running back bounce around off the quarterback and maybe hit the corner and get to the scene or get to the, you know, to get the outside. But like, it's one of those games that like, man, I literally like any extra minute, you know what I mean? When I'm on, I take my PS5 on the road now, I've never really been like, I haven't been a gamer in years just because of time, right? You guys know, like on the weekend, then usually Thursday to Sunday, maybe Monday, I'm on the road. So NCA 25 got me back. Like I got my PS5. If you're seeing me on a show on the weekend, like I probably got it back in the B and B ready to go. I don't know how many hours, I think I'm not at a hundred yet, but man, I'm staying up like those first three or four days. It was just Notre Dame, you know what I mean, like just I played them all growing up. That was still in my rotation, man. I have the 360 plugged up and I was playing, you know, 13 and 14 in the build up to 25. So I've loving it. I've got my offensive coordinator season going at Jack State could have left after the first year to go be offensive coordinator Georgia Tech, not I sticking with the team. And then my Notre Dame, like my baby, the head coach and just playing as the Irish recruiting my tail off. I just, I love it, man. I think about all the time, I feel so bad for Haley because she like my wife loves, loves sports. Like we bond over football and basketball and she's gotten into hockey because of me and like, you know, I've gotten into women's basketball more for her. Obviously growing up in Tennessee, Lady of all shut up pet summit, but man, like we've really been good for each other in that sense of like sports, sports, sports. So there are times I'll just mumble under my breath, something and she's like, are you okay? What's going on? I'm like, yeah, like I'm running a three, three, five at Notre Dame right now. So I'm thinking I've got a like, I've got this blitz. I'm going to start coming down with my safety and she just like reading lunch. What do you do it? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Like it takes up so much of my time. I've got just all my bookmarks on Twitter right now are like, you know, how to offensive and protection, you know, like, you know, because it is, it's so crazy to control, man. Like, like you guys said, you know, I've been playing Madden more the last few years. I played every year because just I need that. That's my, that's my safe place in a sense. I shut my brain off for a little bit, play some football and the games aren't fun, but I'm a huge Titans fan. So like I love building up, you know, the Titans and so I've been playing at the last few years. But it's just that it's not that there's not a ton that you can do as far as, you know, you're making it your system, making it what, you know, you're just kind of, you're going to the motions. So I've enjoyed 25 so much because I feel like you can, you know, I feel like you're really, you can play with your linebacker list. You can play with what your safety is, your corners, your, you're picking, you're pinching down on the run, baby. Like I missed it. I didn't realize how much I missed being an imaginary football coach, man. And I'm just, and I got an online, Donna's dynasty starting up soon with some wrestlers, like some of the boys I got in with. So I've been talking a little smack on that now I'm about 10 years older than them. So I'm nervous, right? I've played more college football growing up, but they're playing way more games than I am now. So I'm really curious what's going to happen when we get this thing going in a week or two, like how overly confident I might be, bro, and these kids are just like, just picking me off. Yeah. Obviously you could tell that I, Jeremy, I'm with you. Any second I can get, I'm on that, I'm on the sticks. See, I, I really enjoyed it when it first came out and the Madden came out and I almost feel like I have to play it to justify spending the money. Yeah. And that's where I feel like I want to go back to playing more college football because it is more enjoyable. Like you said, like the unrealistic things that happen in college football feel a little bit more realistic in that game because college football can sometimes be just very stupid and unrealistic where in Madden, when stuff happens, it's like, okay, these guys are, you know, 28 year old, 29 year old professionals and they're not this stupid. Like they're, they're not this dumb when it comes to the run game. Like there's no way the guy's just going to stand there when a guy is literally running right at him and it's like, oh, let me just slightly move around that way. It's not even like a cut. It's just, oh, let me just go around and then he's still just like, bro, look, what? Where's the pursuit here? We're college football. I'm a little bit more forgiving on this, but now NBA comes out in like two days and like I'm going to be playing so much in the A because that those games are so deep too. Whereas the Madden, that's one thing I don't like about the Madden games is like, if you're not playing this ultimate team nonsense, like there ain't a whole lot of depth to these games. You don't, you don't get to really have fun with, yeah, and D.Lo digs says the same thing. I only play Madden because, uh, my ultimate team, oh, everything else sucks. That's the only thing to play on Madden is like the ultimate team stuff. Yeah. The franchise mode this, this year, I don't know if it's been like this in the past years. I'm so pissed that like I, I played college football. I did the, uh, road to glory thing, got my wide receiver going and everything. I imported him into Madden. It's only online. Like the superstar mode is only online. So when I'm playing it, I'm playing it and like you guys, like my connection ain't the greatest in the world. So like I'm in the middle of a game. I might be in the third quarter and if my connection drops or the servers, which yeah, it ends it, it ends my game and I lose all my pride. I was like, well, I just spent all this time on road to glory, trying to get my, trying to get my wide receiver right so I could play him in Madden. And then now I can't do anything with a momentum because it's all online. Oh, this, this, you've turned me off to hear your voice really to hear it. Yeah. It sounds like I, it's something I wanted to ask before it. So I don't forget this actually has a video games and commentary. So I don't know if this is something that would like infuriate you or something that you respect modes, but like about a year or so ago, Puff was on commentary during black level pro and I thought it was funny because I was literally, I had the dual screen set up on my delivery. So I'm literally watching BLP on one screen and then I had Fortnite on my other screen. And the reason I'm bringing this up is because Fortnite was literally going to like this massive like update and Puff was on commentary at BLP as matches were happening and like instead of like calling the matches, he had his switch in his hand and he was giving updates on the Fortnite update instead of what was like going on. No. Listen, take your commentary serious by promotions, promoters. I know you love having your friends on. I know you got like, I know you love to joke about it after in the locker room, but come on, man, you're taking away from everybody in the ring. You're taking away from this talent that could get killed on any, in any moment. I know people may think that. Listen, like in the seven years I've worked in professional wrestling, it's always the tiniest thing. It's never, you know, the, the, the light to bundle destroyer off the moon. It's always like, you know, you step wrong. It's something like that, man. And that's a maybe a year and it's, you know, if you lose a year in this business, God lay, bro. That's hard to come back. So yeah, I, I'm sure people enjoyed that. But as somebody that loses sleep over commentary and taking my job serious, I may have walked out. I may have walked out. I got to be honest. Yeah. No, it's all good. You're right about the, the injury. I was literally just talking to my buddy about that, the injuries thing the other day, about how, because like we were watching all in and doing these crazy moves and stuff and yeah. And you know, I think he made the comment. He was just like, man, like some of these guys, probably like maybe like some of those moves don't seem like it's like worth the risk, you know what I mean? And I was like, dude, but when you really think about it, the majority of the actual injuries are like, it's like, it's like the Adam Cole jumping off the stage as nothing to do with wrestling. Like it's, it's like someone doing a routine suicide dive and it isn't like the guy diving getting hurt. It's like the dude who's doing the catch because maybe the dude doing the dive lands a little low and it hits like their kneecap and like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's always the weirdest smallest things a lot of it doesn't even moves and stuff going on on the outside because there's like a brawl with like five people and somebody like in football, somebody gets blocked into somebody's legs that they don't, they don't see from a weird angle and you get hurt off of like the weirdest, most random stuff. So like, you know, I'm with, I'm with you. I mean, but, uh, yeah, I just thought it was funny, but we were talking about the video games that I just, I remember Puff literally talking about the Fortnite updates like as it was, I was, it was updating, I was like, man, but it was also a BLP and it's kind of like, you know, Mikey, you know, they kind of, they kind of, they do their own thing, you know. And I like it. Yeah. I'm obviously a BLP fan. Um, but, uh, but yeah, just wanted to thoughts on that. Jeremy, what, uh, what, uh, what other all in such you want to go over? Oh, I mean, there's a, there's a lot to talk about, but we can, we can get some, uh, TWE stuff. Yeah. I'm good with that. I mean, however, however, we all want to do this chat. We appreciate you all for, for Baron with us. It's a little bit different of an episode today, but I actually really like that we're bouncing around and I love that we got mose on here speaking of mose being here right now. We will talk a little TWE. TWE 11 years strong was this past weekend on the 23rd and 24th. So well, I guess, was that this past week, I'm getting my days on that messed up because of the being on vacation, but it was last weekend, last weekend, the 23rd and the 24th. Correct. Two night show, um, I want to focus a bit more on the second night and your involvement in the main event, but obviously you, you were on commentary throughout both nights. There was a lot of stuff going on. Um, the main event of night two was what seems to me to be the blow off. I mean, the, the looks, it seems like things are settled. Um, it was the big wargames match between Covenant of the Goat, which was Nathan Maury Tank, Jade Newman and Azrael, they defeated KOBK, the team of Breadice and Hardway Eater, Luthax and Sean Campbell. Of course, Mose was on the outside in support of KOBK and the Rev on the outside for Covenant of the Goat. Um, Mose got involved during this match a few times and in one instance, that was very important to the, to the end of the match that I'll get to, but at one point, you get knocked out by the, the goat skull. I mean, out there, you and, you and Brett, I thought that was going to be on the match because like, oh, they took Brett out of the cage. Mose just went down. It's about to be like three on four, technically five on four because you also got the revs, you know, and I mean, I'll just kind of set the stage for the, the finish of this match. I can't do the whole match justice. This thing was nuts. This, this lived up to the wargames expectations. I very much enjoyed this. I'm somebody who I've talked about it a lot of times on this show. I wish wargames was like an elimination style match because I think it'd, it'd be more interesting than having to wait for everyone given the match, but the way that y'all did this, we're going to actually liked that it wasn't elimination because there was so much history between these two teams and because it felt passion, drive and patience. The formula for winning championships is also what keeps your ride or die alive. eBay Motors has everything you need to maintain your vehicle and level it up to peak performance. 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I can't get into every spot and little thing, crazy thing that happened because it was just too much. But basically towards the end of the match, why is it happening? I remember correctly. This is all off the dome. Nathan Lowry does like a flying elbow with flames, literally a flying flaming elbow off the top rope. That took out Campbell, I believe. Partly he or I believe had already been taken out of the match and duct taped to the cage. So heater duct taped to the cage, Campbell duct taped to the cage, Luther X gets speared by Jaden Newman through a door in the corner and also looks like he bashes his head against the steel cage on the way down. So Luther X is knocked out. He gets duct taped to the cage. So we're at a point where everyone is duct taped to the cage for KOBK except for the leader, Brett Eisen. And man, this was brutal. Jaden puts him in that Hayman's clutch submission hole. If people aren't familiar with this hole, it's like an STF with like a provide. And Jaden takes a spike and he's literally stabbing Brett Eisen in the top of the head with this thing, with this, with this Hayman's clutch submission locked in, Brett's bleeding from the forehead down his face and literally yelling, "I'll never give up. I'll never submit." I mean, that's the whole thing. That's KOBK. Literally, the gimmick or moniker of the group is killer be killed, like they're not going to give up. So our boy Mo's with tears in his eyes, throws in the towel. Mo's had to throw in the towel to save his brothers because Brett wasn't going to give up. But like, I'm just going to say it, y'all know I love Brett Eisen and KOBK. I've been a ride and I fan of these guys for like a decade at this point. Before we were KOBK, honestly, you've been there, yeah, yeah man, you've been there. But y'all were screwed, like, I mean like, I want to say it's screwed, like it was within the rules of the match, but like Brett was like, he was dead to rights, like he wasn't getting out and he wasn't any of us. Everyone else was updated to the cage. You had no choice but to throw that towel in. But I could see that raw emotion in your face literally tearing up. You didn't want to have to do it, but you did. And then after the match, tank asked Brett while everyone's face to face both groups and he says, you know, is this done? Is this settled? And Brett's like, yeah, yeah, this is this is it, you know, and like y'all, y'all left. And I thought it was, I thought it was beautiful. I, I enjoyed the hell of it. I wish you guys would have won because like I'm such a big KOBK fan, but obviously I'm down for, if it was any other team I'd be riding for coming to the go because I love those guys two for the same reasons, you know what I mean? So this, this was, as a TWE fan, I think y'all totally delivered on a, on wargames, man. Thank you. Thank you. So it sounds like everybody enjoyed it. I know some, some like reviewers and stuff said it was, you know, one of the best wargames maybe ever, definitely in the last decade. It was something that we're really proud of, man, 10 months of a story we told across multiple promotions across, I think, multiple states even, you know, it's, it's something you don't get a lot, you don't get that a lot, man, you don't get that opportunity a lot, especially if you whiff on it. So for us to put this time in and, and you know, give like you're saying, giving this opportunity to be in a wargames with essentially, you know, the reincarnation in a sense of the devil's rejects from back in the day, from wild side, from, you know, absolute legends, you got tanking as he, who are both a part of obviously devil's rejects, and then you got Jayden, the young good on the way up and Mauri, the new crazy, you know, so he sets himself on fire whenever he can. He seems like he'd fit in with KOBK also like a lot of these guys could kind of go either way almost. You know what I mean? It is the mirror image. I mean, if you look at it, what, you know, it's the day we're looking at ourselves, you know what I mean? Like when I look at Rev, I see a version of me and that I don't say that lightly. I am such a fan of, of tank and rev, you know, forever. I mean, literally like you're talking about Southern wrestling. If you're talking about Southern wrestling, I don't care. It used to be a death match, whatever, whatever you're talking about Southern wrestling. You're not talking about tank and the rev and the devil's rejects. You really got to do your homework and we're talking about, like there's a wargames from back, I believe in '06, find like it is just an incredible match. You know, they had a little bigger space than us that, you know what I mean? When you add in, it's a smaller venue and we don't have the one ring with the 1K, just a little less for us to play with, but like you're saying, Jensen, I think that fit us well because with the bad blood, with everything, you got nowhere to run. We're in this cage together, we're going to figure it out. That was one of the hardest, like, I mean, that was, I have tank telling me to throw in the towel. I've known shoes since my first year in the business probably, I met shoes. It was really hurt, man. It was a very powerful moment, something I'm going to hold on to forever because of, you know, when you met me, Jensen, I'm a fan, you know, writing reviews, writing, you know what I can, just trying to help in any way. I'm going to shows, you know, trying to sweep the ring, anything to help and I'm being told no for years, so, you know, now all these years later and I'm with my boys in this incredible match with these legends and, you know, that moment where Brett's crawling out and I'm just standing next to him, I know, you know, he wanted to go out on his own. So that's, that image for me is something that means a lot, the fact that Brett, Brett and Dylan Hell are the reason I live in my dream. You talked about commentary and, you know, commentary on video game, I was a kid, I still do it. I don't really listen to commentary if I'm playing with football, I got it on mute and I'm doing my own commentary in my head when I was a kid, you know what I mean? So that was what started it for me and here I am on Friday night, the 23rd, I think we had like a two and a half hour show and I'm calling with multiple commentary partners, you know, that's, that's a different, if you've never really, you know, doing commentary with one person, you got to figure, you know what I mean? So when you're rotating in, it's, it's hard and I feel I'm really proud of that show. I'm really proud of what we did. I'm really proud of everything TW's done these 11 years. I've been a part of five of the 11 and for us to go out, you know, 11, you're strong, those two nights like that back to back, man. I just, I can't, it's hard to put in words. It is. It's an honor. It's an honor to be a part of that match, the Rev Sucks egg shirt. That's something that I didn't tell, literally anybody, like nobody knew I was going to do that. I had that shirt made and I showed it. I may have told him the night, I may have, he may have seen it like before this show mate, but like he didn't know, you know, nobody knew until the day of and that was a cool moment because Rev has a history with dusty roads and learned a lot and you know what I mean? Like you revs been around, revs been with some of the greats of the greats. So there's just little things like that that mattered to me and I really appreciate you saying that it was, that was a hard, I was nervous man. It was a hard moment. I didn't want to screw it up. I didn't want to take away from anything that those just crazy, crazy people were doing in that match and I'm really proud, I'm really proud of how it came across and it's something that, and you said it like Brett, he's digging, Jayden was digging that man's head like that was no, we weren't, you know, we weren't working there brother. That was, he was digging, like I talked to Brett yesterday and his head is still so sore. Oh, there was a yes there, dude, you could tell me, because Brett Brett was not bleeding before the, I can't, you know what, the hangman's clutch was locked in and Jayden, all he's got in his hand is that spike and Brett's hands are free. I mean, there was no, I mean, we're getting kind of inside baseball, everyone knows what we're talking about. Like, like there was no, this was the, this was a hard way, right? This is the hard way. It's just like, just like he likes it, so digging in that brain, I got to hit tank with tubes and across these 10 months, like, I don't know, if you haven't, that was awesome. Awesome, by the way. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. Most, I don't know if we talk, I know it brought it up on the show after it happened because I know we were, we used that as one of our indie spotlights like that, because that was the, the show where after all that happened, someone got lit on fire in the middle of the ring. Yeah, we lit Nathan, Campbell and Nathan on fire. That's right. Because they need to return the favor with the flammals. Yes, exactly. Um, yep. But, you know, that was amazing. I didn't mean to cut you off, but like you, you hitting tank with the bundle of light tubes ruled. Thank I, I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it was like when it was happening. Uh, so yeah, if you're watching this and you're not, please, please go watch T.W.N.I.W.TV. Please go watch 11-year strong and watch that wargames match. Uh, I don't know, man, I don't know if I'm going to do anything cooler. Like obviously I got no plans to quit wrestling time soon, but it's going to be hard to beat, to beat that night. Even with the loss, uh, yeah, I just, uh, I, I can't, uh, having that with Brett, I mean, Brett Heater, Sean Alutha, I talk to these guys every day, like it's not, it's not something, you know, some company put us together. It was completely organic, KOBK started in a car ride with me and Brett heading up, uh, to New Jersey for an ICW show and everything since then has been our baby. Uh, you know, we run shows now, we, we're across multiple promotions and it's, it's for me, especially like I don't want to talk about, I know you guys are going to many of these talk about, but, uh, I was told by someone, I respect a couple of years ago, after I had this tattoo, I was told, well, you're not really in case, you're a commentator, you're not really in it. But it was, that's clearly somebody who didn't know the history of, no, no, it was, it was somebody like, I, I mean, no one them now, I don't know if it was kind of a, uh, kind of a something to kind of get me, you know what I mean, kind of like put a fire under me. Who was it? Who wasn't most? It was Dylan. It was Dylan. It was Dylan. It was years ago, yeah, it was years ago before an action show and we were talking about things that were happening, uh, match wise, like the run down in the card and, uh, and it did. He did Dylan told me like, well, you're not really in case, you know, and I'm, I look at my hand and I'm like, I'm not, you know what I mean? Like, I'm actually me and Brett, like it was Brett who brought up killer be killed, but like we put this brand together, we, so that, that, and then now, right. So like you're saying full circle from years ago when Dylan said that to me being, you know, managing my boys at the promotion that Dylan is, uh, is putting matches together and he's, you know, he's really a lot behind the scenes right now. The big change from a couple of years ago to now at TWE, a lot of that is Dylan Hills behind the scenes. So that was a big moment me for, you know, a lot of reasons, uh, personally and professional only. So yeah, one more time, please, please, if you haven't, go watch, uh, War Games, go watch TWE. Uh, I just, I think we're doing a lot of really cool stuff right now in, in this Phoenix city with young talent with really cool matches. You may not be thinking about they've got a Monday show called Crash Course that it's a lot of young talent and maybe talent you don't really see a lot except it, you know, smaller shows, maybe in the South Midwest, uh, so TWE is doing a lot right now and a lot of that definitely, uh, definitely has to go to Dylan Hills. For sure. And I mean, Dylan is somebody you who would, you knew the, because he knew you before you got in when we were just eight, quote unquote fans. I mean, when we were just going to self shows, we knew what's and stuff. So like, so I mean, you know, you know, the history. And by the way, Dylan, if you're seeing this, you know, the open invitation to join the spotlight. I've thrown the invite out there. It's been a while since I interviewed Dylan, like, we used to do fight talk pretty often. And then, uh, I interviewed him for the, uh, the weekend or like really early on, when I started doing the weekend or podcast or fight for, and it's been a long time. And I keep like, I keep just missing him. Cause like, I want to go to shows that he's going to be at then like the show gets canceled at DOS barbecue or whatever, then it can't meet the next one or whatever. And we're like, I know he's got stuff going on, but I would love to be able to catch up with Dylan Hills because I've talked about it a thousand times. I, there, there might not be anybody, I respect more on the dependency than that guy. So, um, you know, I obviously echo everything you're saying about him. I mean, that's, and you know, I'm better than I do obviously, you work with the guy all the time now, which is I think you are a great team. So if yeah, I wouldn't be here that Dylan, uh, good friend, my mentor, he's maybe better. He's really hard on me. Uh, man, really hard on me the first couple of years when we were working together, but it made me better. Uh, you can't be soft, you know, when you have someone like that, that's, that's seen so much and been around wrestling, you know, even before he was in the business. He just so, such a huge IQ of wrestling and I, I just, he, he gave me that first step. I'll never forget, uh, I mean, Dylan, excuse me, Dylan, uh, he loves to, uh, he loves to put you in a position to see how you're going to react. He loves to, you know, you sink or swim in a way. And my first sub match, I definitely sunk, uh, I didn't know, you know, that was the goal, Jensen, right? You know, I wasn't doing, I was doing commentary at small promotions and I was you know, I was doing commentary, not getting paid. I was filming the shows and editing the shows and doing commentaries. My way of like, I'll film your and edit your shows if you let me do calm. Uh, and it, you know, so the day I'll never forget the first sub match, I'm in the beast and Dylan comes up to me and goes, we're going to put you on a match and mind you, this is maybe 20, 30 minutes for the show is going to start. So I'm like freaking out. I don't think I'm good yet. I'm wasn't good yet. They put me in there. I wasn't working with Dylan. And, um, I was working with the other guy at the time, McCash and Steven McCash, Steven is a, uh, he was definitely more of a two man of Dylan, right? Dylan's always going to be the one man in the booth more than likely. I mean, maybe, I mean, maybe a random night, but he's, uh, so I was planning on being the two man, but Steven really hadn't been the one man enough to know how to like take the reign. So I definitely, I cannot listen to that match. I can't listen to that mattress too much downtime. I'm not doing enough. What was the match? It was, uh, the smoking buds versus I F H Y. Oh, okay. Yeah. So it was, I mean, uh, I was very close with the smoking buds, uh, shout out Cody and Dave Morton. I don't know if they wrestled very sporadically now, um, at all, but it, it was a, it was a cool moment for me, but I learned a lot in stinking that day. Thanks to Dylan. And that's another thing that like Dylan is so good at just setting those little, like let's see what you do here. And, uh, that happened recently, man, like he had to miss a show and I don't know until it's like the day of, you know, it's like, Hey, you're, I'm, I don't, it's not going to be here. Uh, we need to figure out what we're doing and it's all up to me. So I figured it out, uh, but it definitely, yeah, man, Dylan, uh, I can't act to talk about Dylan man all day because he, him and Brett ice and I'll go to war four. They, they, you know, they, they put me in position. I've done the work and all that, right? But they've put me in that position early to, to live my dream. And I get to do it all the time now with my friends. One thing to, to live your dream, um, it's another, to, to get to do it with people you really care about and, and, you know, put on good stuff, good product. So yeah, shut up Dylan for real. Last thing I'll say about both guys and I'll pass back over to Jeremy, but, uh, last thing I'll say about both guys, Brett Eisen best, some of them are on pro champion of all time, bone storm champion of all time. For sure. For sure. And I think all prices still kind of free the champion. I don't know. Yes. Yeah. Thank you. I really hope we get at least like a one sub reunion show of some kind sometime in the future. I know everyone's doing their own things now and it's hard to lock down these venues and stuff like the base beneath now and stuff. I know there's, there's problems, but, um, you know, I'll always have a, I'll always have a spot in my heart for Brett Eisen. Hey, I will give you a little bit. I can't say much. I can't say much. What I can say is for roughly the last three years, anytime I've had an opportunity to pitch sub matches to Dylan Hills, I've been on it and earlier this year, I pitched three matches to him that he really loved a couple of, if not all three, like I'm talking eyes lit up, Bill and Hell's doing the thinking face of like, oh, we could do that. So there's some talk at least the early stages do not get excited. Don't, you know what I mean? There's no date. There's nothing, but I'm doing everything I can, everything I can, Jensen, to get you back at an East Nashville for a sub show. I mean, I'm, to the point I'm calling Dylan at 2 a.m. like, you remember those matches? Remember those matches? I need to book them, man. So I'm working, baby. We're working. The KO BK events are almost like spiritual successors to sub. I feel like if y'all can just, if y'all can book Alec Bryce, just get him to defend the title with those shows. I mean, I feel like that's, that's a, you know, you know, I don't want to finish. I was going to say about Dylan, I was just going to say lots of about Dylan fantastic Tennessee clover leaf as somebody is a fish and auto of the Texas clover leaf. My favorite commission of all Dylan. Hales has a fantastic one and he lost it a nice. I'm negatively recently, I'm negatively going back to, sorry, what were you saying about saw? No, that was, that was, I just wanted, I wanted you to know that I'm trying. I'm doing everything I can. I'm hassling Dylan. The idea is open now, you know, that he's not the only person. There's a brain trust with stuff, but we're closer than we were, you know, a year ago, a few months ago to maybe in 2025, maybe now, like you said, the biggest thing is venue. You can't just run a sub show anywhere. Right. So we got to find the right venue and he's Nashville and Nashville, but just don't worry baby. We're, we're trying. We're really trying to get that back because I'm with you like, the world is better with Southern underground pro at it. Yes. Yes. That's, I love hearing that. Jeremy, are they doing work on your place right now? Is it too loud? It's too, it's too loud. It's a little bit. I, I tried to mute for a second while they're doing it. It's kind of. I know. I'm paying attention. So it's okay. Right now. Okay. Um, Mo's, I, you, I know you got a show coming up. When is that going to be airing? And it will be on, it will be IWTV or somewhere else. But the KOBK show? Yeah. The KOBK show. Yeah. So we do IWTV. It'll work. So September 8th in Indianapolis is the show. We use profit of ash when we're in the Midwest to film. And that guy's dope. Literally like, I think the last show, so the last show we did up there. I want to say we had it up on IWTV on maybe Tuesday or Wednesday like shows on Sunday. People have the footage to me before he goes to bed that night. I run commentary while we bought a set up for that, for our shows this year, picking back up. So I have the commentary file. We sent it to Sean, asking it to Sean Campbell. He puts everything together. He gets it to the IWTV. So I don't want to like count my chickens, but that shows September 8th, I would assume I would have almost bet money. We will have it up maybe by like the 11th, 12th, you know, within within three, four days, maybe sooner. It'll be up on IWTV. This show is called 85 Territories. We've not announced anything yet. I'll tell you guys. Why not? We're doing Sean Campbell and Big Dave. Oh, nice. Yeah. Yeah. Big Dave has been on a run. He's on a run right now, baby. He's he's locked in and he's like, he just pinned Adam Priest. He did? He's just passed like weekend. Yeah. Yeah. That was huge. That was interference from Manders. They're still building that Manders. They are. I interviewed with him and Priest. How big Dave would that win? September 7th, live on IWTV, Manders versus Adam Priest, Battle of Sel Creek. That is a scenic city show. I'll also be on comments area there. Yeah. Yeah. He did. Big Dave just beat Priest. Maybe the biggest win of his young career. I've known Dave. Man, it's I knew Dave when he was still a fan at New South. So when I was there doing calm. So it's I see a lot of myself and Dave of that. You just grind and you don't really know how to get in the wrestling business. You just kind of try to find a way in and, you know, not screw up and Dave's in it the right way. We're doing Sean Campbell, Big Dave. That'll be our main event. We've got hood foot on the show. We're doing the original sins, which are really, really, really, really good tag team out of the Midwest against Totally Shook, who are the TWE Tacking Champions. We're doing that match. We will have Hard We Heater on the show. We're not going to have a ton of matches. It's an outdoor parking lot bar show. It's kind of like days to confused vibes. We got fans come out, you pay 20 bucks for a ticket, you can pull your truck up and sit and have a few parking lot beers. We goof a little bit. You know, it's not as serious as, you know, that's the thing about, I really can't thank you, James, for saying that we feel like suck because that's literally like that was really hard to do. You know, I don't say that like, you know, like, you're there. It's one thing for someone to say you guys remind me of stuff that I want. Like you were in the shit, you're in the trenches with us there at the Beast. I was in there interviewing Slutty Cat, bro, and looked, we'll look how that turned out. You know what I mean? Shout out Slutty Cat, Slutty Cat. Shout out Josh Bishop. They go over the world, bro. We were talking to him when he was Slutty Cat, dude. We got a long way, man. Putting on bangers. He had a crazy, like, he had so many crazy matches there. I was telling, uh, I think man. Yeah. Manders forgot him and Kerry Awful had an absolute ass beater in that building. Uh, yeah. Go back and watch young men. I mean, Southern Underground Pro, there's so many guys right now that are on top of the man's Warner, like just real certified dudes and ladies and, and, you know, non-binary people that are killing it, that were on SUP four, five, six years ago. So yeah, please support SUP, because if those SUP numbers go up, maybe maybe we get that show a little, a little more, you know what I mean? Um, but yeah, yeah, man, like it's, we're really excited, September 8th is our show. It'll be up on IWTV. Please go watch our back catalog. I think we've done five or six shows now across the last couple of years. Last year I didn't do any. I was traveling too much. Uh, it's, it's hard, especially with Ring, man. I love, I, I know Ring shows are easy. Like, stress, you know, easy. I could, I could run a no ring show and five, you give me five minutes of time and some kind of locker room to prepare. We're running that, but with, you know, with the ring, more money out of the pocket, more this and that, uh, we're, we're definitely, we've done, I think three show, this will be our third show this year. We're hoping to do four, maybe five, bring it back to Nashville. Please, please, please go watch anything K will be K on IWTV. New show coming out. Um, like I said, 10th 11th, I'm trying to get it out by the 11th, it'll be up. Okay. Okay. Um, easy day to remember. So September 11th, around December 11th would be fingers crossed. Yeah. Okay. It should be up with by the 11th. Okay. Um, we will, uh, we'll try to get you back on around then after the show is up so we can, uh, maybe recap it a little bit. I'll, I'll definitely be one of the indie spotlights. So, uh, yeah. It'll be a short show too. Don't worry. We did our last Duke show. I think we did five. We did, uh, it was like a little over an hour. Our Cobra show. We was less than an hour. This one will probably be maybe hour and a half. So it's not going to be a long show. You can knock it out. It's, and it's, it's matches. You're probably, if you are going to get somewhere else, you're not going to get them the way we cook them up. Yeah. I love it. I love it. Jeremy, anything luck to add? They're still working around here. So we can see when you're muted. I don't think that they, like the audience can. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I've been trying to like keep you out of it too. I'm just assuming they're being on your ceiling. Yeah. I think it's kind of okay right now. Mo's. We appreciate you joining us, man. Thank you. Thank you. Early for you. Even earlier than it is for us. Uh, go ahead and go ahead and plug everything once again. Yeah. Please follow me on social media is most KOBK, M-O-S-E, KOBK, KOBK, wrestling on IWTV, uh, N-G-W this weekend, Battle of Sel Creek next weekend, live on IWTV, KOBK show the 8th, it should be, uh, uh, uh, TWE September 14th, I won't be there, but, you know, support TWE. Uh, thank you guys. Thank you guys so much. Always a pleasure. I could talk to you guys at 6 a.m. if you needed me, uh, but yeah, thank you guys again for real. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, bro. We will, uh, we'll let you go and, uh, I'll be in touch. Uh, we'll, we'll definitely catch up after KOBK's next show and, uh, we'll talk about it. Awesome. Thanks again, bro. Always good to talk to you. The rest of the day. Go Irish. Thanks for the show. Show your day, buddy. Here we go. That's, uh, most of them on the show more than anybody else, uh, it's- Him and Cole are the top two. I mean, of course, if Cole shows up today, um, I don't know, most might have just, might be a little bit high. The two of them are battling it out. Cole really needs to make an appearance here to, to try to, to try to, to try to keep up. Does he have the link, like, does Cole have the link? I think I said to two of them last night. Let me just double check. Okay. Yeah. I said two of them last night. All right. He messaged me yesterday and it's like, what time am I on the show today? I'm like, I'm pretty sure on the show tomorrow. So. He messaged you yesterday thinking it was the show? Yeah. I, uh, no, I, I sent him the link last night and he said, uh, to jump on anytime between like eight 30 and 11 a.m. So Easter time. So if Cole can't make it, he can't make it, but, uh, I mean, hopefully he can, um, but we can go back to, you know, all in and, you know, start getting WWE and stuff. All right. So all in, what else stood out from you besides the main event? So obviously the main event was awesome, uh, which we already talked about. If you missed it, go to the beginning of the show, y'all. We did talk about, um, the main event in Danielson, what we expect out of him going forward. Another match I thought was great was a, well, Osprey versus MJF for the international championship, formerly the American championship, um, you were right, uh, Tiger driver, sealed the deal. Yeah. So, um, like I was right about a lot of things, but what it basically, yes, you were right about, uh, well, we were both right about Osprey winning, uh, you know, and having a big moment at Wembley, especially if they're not going to be going there next year for this show. Do they announce that they're going to go for one week for a different show? Uh, they're doing forbidden door next year in London. They've not said Wembley. They just said London. Okay. Um, I'd be a little surprised if it was Wembley to be honest. Same. Same. Um, but yeah, that, that, the Osprey versus MJF matches, that was awesome. And I loved, uh, MJF was wearing like the Lex Luger USA gear and stuff and, uh, um, it's hard, it's hard to like break matches down between Osprey and MJF on here because like they do so much stuff, but like I, I really, we talked about it leading into the match. I really liked MJF's run as American champion and all that stuff he was doing with that. So from that sense, I'm kind of bummed out that that's over, but then the way that they immediately, like, I mean, because Dana Garcia got involved in the Osprey and MJF match and then of course Garcia attacked MJF last night and I think Garcia caught a really good promo on the microphone last night as well. Uh, Cole just messaging me by the way, you might, I don't know if he's watching and just heard us talking about him or what, um, he said, uh, he'll be on in 10 to 12 minutes. Okay. I was very specific. That's very restless. She's probably like used to being like, I'll be there exactly at this time. Do not start the show. All right. Thanks, Cole. If you're watching, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll be ready for you when you get here. Um, but, uh, but yeah, I, so I, I liked that they're building Garcia, like they've been building him for this. And I liked, I liked the, the way that he, um, was talking about how he pawned MJF's diamond ring to get the money so that he could use that to fly over. Well, I, I want to know when this thing was stolen then because MJF said it was stolen in London. But if Garcia pawned it in Buffalo to get to London, it was clearly stolen before MJF flew over to England. Right. Yeah, continuity, continuity errors, a little bit maybe, but, uh, but I liked, but I liked the, I liked the idea of that. They're like, I'm not going to even spend my own money to fly over there and attack you. I'm going to use the money from your ring to, to, to pay for this flight. Um, so I, but the reason, one thing, the reason I bring that up is because I was a little bummed out that MJF lost the match. I mean, like I tried to ask for it to win. I think Oscar winning was the right move. I don't have anything against it. And it's just, I liked MJF as the American champion. And I was like, okay, well, where are they going to go from here? Cause I daddy goes right into the world title mix. But now it's like, okay, the, the Garcia stuff, I, I, I like where that's going. And I'm, I'm a, I'm a big Dan of Garcia fan. I was a big fan of his indie run free AEW as well. And like, I, I really, I think he's another one of those guys TK is obviously been super high on this entire time that he's been under contract. Cause we've seen him constantly involved in things like he was main eventing a lot of shows a while back and stuff, like, so at the end of the day, like I really liked Oscar Rivers, MJF and I like where it's heading, like for both guys coming out of that, how did you feel? Did you, you feel like this match lived up to the hype and like, did you like this better than our long match? So I'm not going to be, I feel like I'm about to be nitpicky here and I apologize for that. Oh, I like the Osprey and MJF all in match way more than the hour long match. But that's also a personal preference. I think most people know that I do not like matches that are like over 18 minutes. Um, right. And this match was much shorter. So real quickly to be a little nitpicky, pause our finisher. That's the magic of it. The heist was too good. We can't comprehend how it happened. Very fair. Here's the thing. MJF had that ring on the dynamite that was in Cardiff Wales. So he had that ring with him after he had flown over. So I guess technically he has multiple dynamite diamond rings because he's one, even though they only really use one, he's won that dynamite diamond ring like multiple times, but he had that ring on dynamite in Cardiff Wales. And then he said he lost it or it got stolen and London and Garcia says that he ponded in Buffalo to fly to London yet it was with MJF in Wales, right? Just saying. Yeah. I'm with you. I'm with you. Yeah. I, you're, you're making sense. But wrestling doesn't always make sense, you know, maybe, maybe, maybe, you know, he stole it in London and then he shipped it to the pawn shop in Buffalo because he wanted to make sure it was there and then he got the, it was a, and then it got back to the money, the wire transfer. I don't know. You can make sense. I'm just, you know, being a stickler for nonsense here. Um, I really liked MJF in Osprey. It went about how I expected it to with the, you finally use the tiger driver, but I think the work was really clean. And I liked it more than their hour long, just cause it was shorter and it, it felt more to the point than, than, uh, than the hour long match. I thought the finish was correct. I figured Osprey was going to win. I like the Garcia's back. He's getting involved. They're going to do the match and all out. That should be good. Very curious as to who wins that because MJF doesn't take a ton of losses and taking back-to-back losses like this would definitely be out of the ordinary for MJF. Yeah. But I don't know if you want to beat Garcia just first match back like that. So it's, uh, you know, it's, uh, it's going to be interesting to see who actually wins this match. I would have Garcia win. So would I, but I don't know if that's going to be the play because I think MJF is a little bit more bulletproof than Garcia, like MJF. But wait, wait, wait more, wait more. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. Way more, more than a little more. Yeah. That's reason I'm okay with it. If it wasn't the case, I wouldn't want it. But like MJF like we saw him pot, like he became the champion after the world was washed. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, you're right. Garcia is our MJF is way more bulletproof than Garcia. I feel like if Garcia takes this loss, it's going to be like, okay. So you pushed him for like two weeks and now he just loses again. How does he come back from this? It's just another stop and start thing with Garcia where if MJF loses, he can talk himself into another big program and it's fine and you can move forward with that. Yeah. I'm with you 100% and all that. Like I'm, I'm, I do not want to see MJF lose often. Y'all know how I feel about MJF. I'm a longtime fan of his, another one of the guys that I've followed on the NDC and I've talked about it on a personal level play anytime. You'll find me like hearing me talk about this, but it is the truth. There aren't a lot of like Jewish representation out there for like pro wrestling at like a top level. When I was a kid, we had Bill Goldberg for like a short time, but before that it was like Barry Horowitz basically going out there getting jogged out with like the star David on his trunks every week. You know what I mean? It's like MJF like I'm, I'm, I'm a really big fan of him on like a personal level and I think he's an incredible professional wrestler and like the best heel that the rest of business has seen in a really long time. So I think he does need to be protected to a certain degree. But like we're both saying, he can afford to lose the den of our CI think it all out because that makes den of our Sia. And then you can always have like a like a trilogy between the two or like a hangman and swerve style thing where like they're linked together for the old long time, but like they do their own thing and kind of constantly come back to one another to settle the score. So I, I would prefer if Garcia won the match because once it just, it, it makes den of our Sia if he, if he wins that match and Garcia is a guy that I think deserves the opportunity to be a top guy. Like if this was, there were, there were plenty of people to be fair. If they were in this spot against MJF, I would say no, MJF still needs to win this one. Like he shouldn't lose to that person, but like Garcia in a lot of it has to do with that they have slow built him clearly with him in mind to be a top guy for a long time now. So it's like, I have faith in, in what they're doing with him and in that when he becomes a top guy, it's going to work. So, um, so yeah, we're on the same page there. And then the other thing I really wanted to highlight because there's a lot of matches. It was a long show, a lot of stuff we could talk about. One main other thing I want to say outside of the main event, my favorite match, the entire show, maybe even my favorite match on the show period, honestly, the, the, the finish of the, the, the Danielson sort of matches up, and then Danielson winning, like that was the best moment for sure. I'm not going to, not going to even act like that wasn't. But my favorite overall match experience as a fan up until the end of it was probably the casino gauntlet. I thought that that match was so much fun seeing Nigel McGinnis come out there and like actually like look like him his old self, like that was really cool seeing him go out there. Um, the amount of people in this match, I mean, it orange Cassidy, Ocada, Nigel, Kyle Riley, ZsJ made a surprise appearance and obviously he's coming off of the G1 climax win. You got Roddy Strong, Mark Briscoe, hangman page, Jeff Jarrett got a massive pop. Ricochet makes his AEW debut, he goes out there and looks amazing and like everyone's already talking about how fast until we see Ricochet and Osprey in there, kill switch was in there. But I did not like this finish of Christian Cage, you know, Christian Cage comes out and then kill switch is the next one out, kill switch basically hands the win to Christian Cage. We've seen Christian in the main event scene enough, I feel like in AEW, I think he's a great heel. But I feel like there's a, they're going to do some sort of story about Christian with like Danielson's dad and stuff like they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll do that will be entertaining. And the match between Danielson and, and Cage will, will be good eventually when it happens. But like, that was my main thing was like, I felt like that match was so sacked and it was so wide open for the taking for like somebody different and new. And then it just like was Christian again, I was like, and it wasn't even him winning the match was kill switch doing it for him again. So I don't know, how do you feel about that? I thought once again, I thought the match itself was a lot of fun. I just didn't like the finish. The finish definitely. What's next at Moss Adams? That question inspires us to help people and their businesses strategically define and claim their future. As one of America's leading accounting, consulting and wealth management firms, our collaborative approach creates solutions for your unique business needs. We leverage industry focus insights with the collective technical resources of our firm to elevate your performance. Uncover opportunity and move upward at Moss Adams dot com at King Super's pharmacy care is making it easy to get vaccinated. Care is helping you stay protected from flu, COVID and RSV seasonal vaccines are available seven days a week with evening hours. Care is giving you a shot at staying healthy this season. Walk in whenever is best and get multiple vaccines in one visit at your local King Super's pharmacy. So come and get the protection you need while protecting those around you King Super's a world of care is in store visit King Super's dot com slash vaccines for more restrictions and exclusions apply seaside for details. Oh, very flat and it felt like it took the wind out of the the sales of the crowd because it was very unexpected. Once Lucius Ores comes out, it's like, Oh, finally, Lucius Ores is going to break free from Christian after all the abuse he's taken. And then no, even though he was Lucius Ores, he just still helped Christian very toxic relationship, Christian and Lutus Ores has, I don't know why Lutus Ores is a fan of all this abuse, but he clearly is just taking it and continues to go back to Christian Christian. Because of the cash in aspect of it, I think Christian makes some sense because he is a dastardly heel who could just do this whenever he wants and I kind of thought they might do Christian beating Daniel Sen at the end of the night and I know people would have hated it. I would have probably not liked it as a big time day as a fan, but I also I would have enjoyed the chaos of it like I would have been like, you know what, as I, you know me, I'm chaos demon. So like I would have been like, you know what, this is good chaos stuff right here. I would not be surprised. I've kind of already booked this in my mind of Daniel Sen beat whoever he's going to beat at wrestle dream. I assume Danieson's family is going to be at wrestle dream because it's it's close enough to its hometown. Danieson beat to beat to wrestle dream and then here comes Christian cage to win the title from him and that is the closing moment of wrestle dream is Christian winning the title. Daniel Sen gets a standing ovation like all fair and everything and he comes back they can do a match an actual singles match, but like I would not be shocked if that is the the wrestle dream finish of Christian cage winning and giving Daniel Sen's family a father they can be proud of a champion they can be proud of at the end of the show. I really thought it was going to happen. And yeah, all we would have needed would have been like like Tony con in a referee outfit pedigreeing Daniel Sen after the after he wins and then tell him Christian to come on down with the briefcase. But yeah, man, I what I really respect about what you're saying right now Jeremy, what I respect about you on a personal level right now is is that you're the biggest friend of the day. I mean, there's a lot of be Danieson fans and you were constantly, you know, so you're constantly tweeting about it, talking about it, like you're, but even you're also such a troll at heart that you're like, yeah, but even it like Christian, yeah, I'm chaos above everything 100% like I love Brian Danielson get my favorite wrestler of all time. I was very happy that he won. I would have been fine if Christian and come out there and just take it that moment and it would just been the most chaotic thing ever because I don't have that kind of attachment and love to to wrestlers and wrestling as a whole to where I'd much rather just get jokes off and laugh about things and the stuff that people hate. I probably find very funny and entertaining and they would have hated hated if Christian came out there. Yeah, I don't think they like that you mentioned you're a person who said, like, yeah, I don't know about that finish with Christian winning. I saw that finish and I was like, oh, interesting and I just started laughing. I just started laughing of like, oh, that's amazing, like sure, Christian wins that rules. I was just cackled after it. Like I found it interesting. I was like, I don't know if I would have done that, but you know what? Not my company. It makes me laugh. So I'm all for it. Yeah, I literally I log on to X right when the match and I was honestly didn't look at social media hardly at all throughout the show. I was just like, I was just enjoying it, but I did look after that match and it most of my time on was just like, fuck that finish, click that finish, worst finish, hate the finish. Awesome match, awesome match, terrible finish. I was like, yeah, I think I feel like a lot of people are feeling like how I feel right now about it. But I mean, that's definitely would be some chaos whenever I mean, especially that happens at Russell Dream. And that's that's a great heel thing for Christian to do though like you get all like I ended the the in ring law, you know, full time career of Danielson, but then like Danielson's like, you know, a few weeks later, he's on the microphone like, yeah, you ended my full time career. I'm still part time. I still want it Wembley and I'm still going to take your ass and win that title back from you because that wasn't that's on how this is going down. So yeah, I don't know. And then the other thing about the show that I want to bring up real quick, because once a there's a lot we can talk about, but right away from some Mariah Mae for beating how much Tony for the A.W. World Women's Championship, I like that. I love the story between the two and Mariah Mae winning. Definitely the move. Also shout out to Jamie Eider for finally returning. It's great to see her after like over a year. So. I don't know what second. I thought that was the second best match on the show. Mariah Mae told me Storm. That was my second favorite match behind Danielson and Swerve. The casino scauntlet is good in the concept is very good, but I didn't have a whole ton of investments in the match just because like the Jeff Jarrett pop, I thought this shit called Naudible and Jeff Jarrett should have just won because he got like the second biggest pop of the night after Danielson's victory. Yeah. Me and my buddy were watching it, we mentioned that as it was happening. I turned to him and I was like, remember in like 2001 and like the year 2000 when like everyone thought Jeff Jarrett was too old, then everyone was bitching about him being the WCW World Champion, then we're in 2020, 40s getting the biggest top of the show right now. Like good for that guy. Yeah. Yeah. But I thought Tony Storm and Mariah Mae, that was the match I was second most interested going into the show. And that was the match that I thought was the second best coming out of the show. From start to finish, I thought both of them have absolutely killed this and the match was great. I was concerned about the placement because second can be a tough spot, especially you're following a ladder match, but the crowd was into it the whole time and they worked a very good match to where the crowd kept into it. Mariah slapping her mom, Tony getting busted open, Mariah reviving Nigel's career with a nice like all of it worked. And yeah, I thought that was a great match. And now was here the follow up is and no more I did the thing last night where she canceled her celebration, but then posed and got a bunch of clicks and likes online for what she was wearing. Now we'll see what actually happens wrestling wise with Mariah Mae. I imagine Marina Sheer Cow is going to get involved in some way. They were showing her before and during the match. So I imagine they're going to kind of follow up on that. Oh, yeah, she sure how, because they showed Shafir also, you said you like combined their two names. You said Marina Sheerakhala. Oh, did I admit me? Sorry. Yeah. No, but they also showed Marina Shafir though. So that's why because she was just seeing recently as well. Yeah. Marina Shafir was, or yeah, it was last night aligning with me and Shafirakhala. I did say Marina Sheerakhala. Sorry. Right. No, it's okay. I know what you meant. But yeah, and also just for the thing I brought it up on the show before, but like I knew of Mariah Mae. We actually like through social media, like Mariah Mae used to be before, I think before she was even training, I remember her being like, just like a, like a, for what it is, she was like a really hot wrestling fan that people knew like from the internet. And she would go to like WWE shows and like kind of like cause play wrestlers and stuff. And they're like, we have like mutual friends and stuff. So like I would, I like knew of Mariah Mae before she like was really even like in wrestling, but I knew she was like a really big fan. And to see her go from like fan to what she's at now is absolutely incredible. Like I think that that is like people will do documentaries on that one day of like, because she, she got good fast and like I think I've said since the beginning of her being in AEW. She is the total package. Like, I think it makes total sense that she'd be the AEW world champion. She's gorgeous. She's great in the ring. Mike, she's got a great character. She's got a history with with Tony that makes sense. She's got all these matches that are ready for her that she has against opponents she's never had before. And something she has history with, I think that Mariah Mae is a, is that it's a home run. She's going to knock it out of the park and be a long time success story for, for not to say a w, but her whole wrestling career, she's going to have a great career going forward. On the flip side, last thing that I'll bring up on this show is then we've got to move on. We're also trying to stretch time a little bit because Cole should be here any minute. But Mercedes versus Britt Baker, how do you feel about that? Uh, wasn't good. It was fine. I don't, I don't think it was as bad as people are saying it was. But my concerns of the match going into it were basically true here. And one thing I think, hurt them, they had to follow MJF in Will Osprey. That was going to be tough. They're following a moment of the hometown guy, Will Osprey, winning the title, using the tiger driver and, and just overcoming MJF. That was going to be a tough follow. The issue was they tried to follow it with kind of an epic of themselves. Like they wanted to go out there and just obviously have a really great match. And Mercedes can work to that level, Britt, and I said it leading into the match. She didn't have enough ring time coming back. Like, I think overall Britt's fine as a worker, like before her injury, coming off the injury, coming off having like a stroke. Like that's a lot to overcome. And then the sheet of match wasn't very good. And then she faced a car, a Harley Cameron who works a slower pace. Like Mercedes is go. And if you can't go, then it's going to look kind of how this match looked. I think Britt was just in a tough position overall. She didn't have enough ring time coming back. She was working somebody who works at a little bit of a quicker pace. And the styles did not mesh. And they wanted to go out there and they wanted to have a really strong match that had lifted the crowd and had big moments for the crowd. And the crowd just kind of wanted to come down after Osprey and MJF. And Mercedes, I don't know if he saw what she wrote about in her newsletter of how she would have changed stuff from the match. She said that maybe they did things that she wished she'd saved for a different time and she wished she'd listened to her instincts a little bit more. She took some blame for the match and got on her for kind of putting it out there. And even she recognized the mixed reaction that people had to the match and that she said she didn't hear the crowd very well. Which is just the thing in stadiums in general, it's tough for to hear the crowd. But yeah, it was a styles clash that it just did not work. And I think it had going into it a lot of things going against it that they couldn't overcome either. Yeah, I'm with you on all that. And you know, one other thing I want to mention about that is I'm not a fan of Mercedes-Benz finish. Sure. I've been trying to bear with it, but like that thing looks worse than little Sebastian's curse and speaking a little Sebastian's curse. We are joined by I just wanted to transition on in. You know, I love that movie. I love the little Sebastian's car. I love that. And the cracker. I farm. I'm a big fan of both. We have Cole Radric joining the show. Cole, Cole, Cole. It's cool. I don't know if you saw, we had mo, we had mo's on earlier. We have our two, our two most, uh, our most, uh, I guess, uh, what's the word? For the people who are on here the most often, as we get frequent, that's the word. That's the word. Cole, how you doing, man? Thanks for joining us. Ah, I'm good, man. I'm still, still recovering from the weekend, had a crazy weekend, uh, so I went over there to jam me at the city and had a good birthday weekend, my birthday was Sunday. So it's got to hug out and hug out friends and right back to the grind of getting back to wrestling, man. Oh, man. Well, I was out of town and I was not on social media. And I did not know it was your birthday. So happy birthday, Cole. Wow. Fake friends. Steven Jensen. I wasn't, I was in the mountains at a casino, man. I didn't have perception for most of the time I was there. I mean, I can't really blame you. Um, Cole, before we get into the committee, because I do want to talk about that. Um, and I can't wait to watch it because it's not available to watch this yet, right? Not yet. No. Okay. Um, I have seen some clips. I have seen some clips. Jeremy went pretty viral with some of these clips as well. Yeah. So, um, but. I'm sorry, well, the thing is, is like, I uploaded that wall at the event, which I wasn't using the hashtag for any of the pictures and stuff that I uploaded and it did not, it did not upload until the day after, like, when I finally got home and I had not, no, when I started going crazy, uh, that's what I was like, my girlfriend was like, Hey, look at how many music shit has, I was like, Oh, shit. I was like, let's go, dude. It did go crazy. I'm going to check those clips. And, and, you know, I tried to do an article on it as well to give it some extra publicity. And once it comes out on streaming, I'll do another article to give it even more publicity. But yeah, I figured it would do really well, like it's, it's done all right, I think. It's something goofy and wrestling. And it just runs wrestling, like people recognize Spongebob characters and stuff. Yeah. Even if you don't know wrestling, you're like, what the hell is going on here? Like, you know, um, I do want to talk shimity, but I don't want to forget, though, to bring this up because so DCW homecoming was this past the, well, technically I keep getting my days script because I was on vacation. Do you see that be homecoming just happened? What was it this time of year to Saturday, but it was two nights. So I'm getting everything all screwed up. Anyways, I was marking out massively during the, the triple threat ladder match. We had Joe Janella versus man's Warner versus Blake Christian to, uh, you know, with like the undisputed GCW champion to finally, you know, finally settle this once and for all one title about going forward and at the end of that match, Effie comes down to the ring to stop Matt Cardona, who would also, you know, put himself in the match by, by that point. So it becomes the four way. I don't want to get taken off by Effie and then I hear the music hit, dude. I hear all my friends dead and I'm like, and I'm like, dude, was coke saving us on the show the other day? Is he ready? Is he coming? Is he ready to come back already? And then I was like, dude, JBL stole Coleradrix theme song. Dude, what were you thinking when you saw that, uh, I don't know, man, I got, I look at the brass string every day right by my bed and, uh, it's just like a little ticking time bomb for whoever has the world championship. So anytime any place anywhere, maybe I may have came out, but we're sliding people now. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I was freaking out, dude. I was like, dude, if Colerad is ready and he was lying to us about no timeline, like I am. He got me. I really thought it, but, but what I like about that too is it's keeping the seeds planted. It's keeping the fans reminded at GCW Coleradrix when he comes back, he does have that brass ring and you better be ready because I do expect you to come to G w champion when you return full. I really, I really do hope that that happens when you're ready. I'm just saying time's ticking. Anytime. Anyways. Anywhere. I love it. I love it. Any other thoughts about GCW homecoming before we talk to many? Uh, yeah. Shout out, Alex Price for stepping up and getting thrown through pain and gone. Um, you know, Drew Parker came back to America to compete in death matches and Drew Parker does what you Parker does and that's be one of the best in the absolute world at what he does. Um, and I watch the world championship match. Very carefully with a very watchful eye and I, uh, there's one thing when I put my head down. There's one thing I think about when I wake up and that is like Coleradrix is a world champion. Yeah. That's going to happen one day. Did you have any idea your theme song was going to play? I don't know, not kind of getting your head a little bit here. I love it, man. I was very surprised to JBL by the way. I was. Yeah. What the fuck was that? Yeah. Oh man. Oh man. Oh yeah. All right. Cardona. Yeah. All the extra of you guys, like they, the second, the second that they, they want to make an aim for themselves outside the company, they just go out for a few man. That seems to be the move. That's more guy just, I'm on, um, oh, also, you know, like everybody that comes out for a movie, I said, and that goes about their business, like, what the fuck did he do? Right. Like, what did he do wrong to all these people? Well, I think it's a matter. And I, I would imagine if you would agree, if you heard me say this, I think it's a matter of, um, if he's established, right? Like they know, like they might not, they might not know a lot about the NDC because they've been up in the clouds in the WWE and, you know, on, on mainstream TV for so long and then they, they leave and they're like, well, who's hot? Like, you do the fans know, like who sells a lot of merch, who, who's, you know, who's got buzz on the indies and like, Effie's going to be at the top of that list, you know, after a big dog, you know, Effie has a deeper level of understanding of wrestling than a lot of people will ever give him credit for it. And I think when these guys come down and they're like, oh, this, the indies, it's whatever. And then they like meet a guy like Effie and they're like, oh, like, they actually do shit down here. Like, it's, it's not fun and games, like, it's not fucking around, like, we go in down here. GCW, it's, if you step up or you get out, you know what I mean? And that's like the fun part about it is when you are competing, it's, you're going against the best wrestlers either in that area or in the world at any given point. Those people in the area are fucking hungry and they want the spots, going to get some of the best people in the world. They want to travel where GCW is traveling to and go with them. So you got to compete and be ready and, uh, Effie does that at a high level every time. And a lot of these people when they come down and they're, you know, maybe they think it's going to be kind of easy. Effie is like, we're going to work today, pal. I love that. I've heard Effie, it was a while back, I heard him talk about, uh, and I liked that he did this because, you know, not a lot of, I should be, cause, let's be honest, cause he can do that. He's a level that he can do. And I'm about to say, I remember him having the balls to go on like his podcast and stuff publicly and talk about like not wanting certain big names coming in and taking a couple of bots. And like, dude, like you're not a draw just because you come from a larger company. Like a lot of these people are, but not, it doesn't make you a draw. And like you just said, like if you're going to come in and try to take people's spots from people who are, who are busting their ass and traveling and making a name for themselves and really, really want it on like a different type of level, like, so I, I think that goes into it too. Effie is not afraid to speak his mind and call these people out either and be like, yeah, like we, we don't need, like we're doing fine. We don't need. Yeah. Well, if you're going to come in and you're going to contribute and make things better, we'll get, we'll give it a shot. No, yeah, absolutely. From a bigger spot. Doesn't mean you're a draw. Like this is a different game. Yeah. And, you know, it's, it's like we, we care about the place that we wrestle for and we wanted it to be good. So if you don't want to contribute positively to that, that that's an issue, you know what I mean? And I mean, I'm not saying like, it's a huge issue, but like we, nobody wants negative energy around, you know what I mean? We all, we all want to go to our workplace and have fun and kill it and do good things. And that's like the most supportive thing, you know, like, you know, pro wrestling is on a team sport, but like if you could feel part of a team while doing something individually, like nothing can be, you know what I mean? Nothing feels better than going to war with your guys going in front of a sold out crazy crowd and stepping out and some of these people have never seen your hustle before and you're expected to fucking kill it. Like you better do that. You know what I mean? And bringing anything less is disrespecting anybody else that wants to do that, that wants to show up, that wants to kill it, you know, that what and like for me, like that's a big motivating factor, like not wrestling fucking sucks. I guess it's all I do. It's like my favorite thing in life, like it's all I've ever wanted to be. It's all I ever wanted to do and now I've been sitting at the sidelines at home watching all this shit go down and I have the brass ring right by my bed. I look at every day and it was, I'm thinking of it as I was operating at a 80%, 75% level when I won this, what's going to happen when I take this motherfucker home and I run with that ball? You know what I mean? Yes, so every, every day I'm working towards that, I'm working towards being a part of that GCW roster that goes out there that kills every weekend, that goes all across the world. And it's just taking time well, man. Yes. Jeremy's been dealing with some construction, by the way, at this place. I can't tell when his mic's muted if like he's good, if you can talk or not. Are you, are you good, Jeremy? Yeah. Um, last thing I had, and then I'd want to, because you were out to Shmey, so you, you know a lot better about the, the, the experience there Jeremy. So I kind of leave it to you to pass those questions, but like, um, last thing I wanted to bring up as part of like GCW goes, um, you mentioned Alec Price, it's got to feel good seeing him out there, like still wearing your jersey and stuff, keep you going out there. That's what it is. Yeah, it's, it's super cool. Like the, the family that y'all like have, you know, absolutely man. So, um, and Alec, man, he's, he's just another one. He, it's almost like I'm torn right as a fan, cause like I want to see you at the GCW world champion. And that is the main thing that I want to see you accomplish, cause you've been wrestling for so long. I was a fan of yours when you were just like jumping around like local indies and stuff. And like, you know, I've, I've been a fan of, as you know, I've been a fan of yours a lot. Yeah. Yeah. And I want, and I want to see you when the GCW title, cause in my opinion, like that is outside of, of course, like, the WWE world title and the AEW world title, like I think the GCW title, like that's the, that's the one for me. Like I think that's the, you know, like when VIF won the GCW title, I marked out when I was in the building for that. I marked out more than almost anything I've been a part of ever. Like I did, I, I love GCW as a fan. That's like my most prestigious. I mentioned these other titles, but like as a fan of any wrestling, the GCW title super important to me. And I want to see you win that title, but then on the flip side, I'm also like, man, you and I have price got a great thing going. Like he's always out the represented. Like I could totally see the garbage daddies as the tag champions, but I feel like I'm not both. I was about to say, I feel like that's attainable without even the brass ring. I feel like you can, you all can take care of that separately and I, I'm all for that. Why not both? Let's go. I love both brother. Yeah. Just don't take it from VIF just yet. I love the run that VIF is on with those GCW titles right now. Like I'm, I'm, I'm, they have the most, the most defenses in one title run in history. But they're going to, they're going to need more team. I know that they, they've been, they've been putting more time together and tough, but, you know, what, sorry. What was that? I said, hi, Kevin. Yeah. Hi, Kevin. Um, but, uh, but, you know, low species has breaking up, that's going to put a little bit of a void out there for, uh, for needing some more teams to step up. Um, I was priced not, you know, nothing against you, obviously, but I think that, uh, occasionally our price will, uh, we'll team with Marcus matters. I think that they do well together, you know, so there, there are, there are, there are teams to keep going that void, but yeah, VIF to me is not just the best time team on the NBC and VIF is I think the best high team in wrestling period right now. So, um, but you guys had a shot against them a while ago and it's been a while. Yeah. Indianapolis. Yeah. That's right. That was, that was home. Um, but that was, that was also really pretty early on at the garbage daddy's run. Like y'all, y'all main, the main thing y'all done it to that point was you were the last East West Express match before Nick Wayne went full time with AW and went pretty much right into that type and title match. Uh, yeah, pretty much. Yeah. So it was like two weeks after, I think. Yeah. See, I watched GCW. Anyway, Jeremy, uh, what, what do you got for this committee? I want to know more about this show. Cole was, I mean, how much insight I'm going to give here? Cole. Um, no, no, super spoilers. Like, yeah, whatever you want to give. All right. I mean, all kind of tie everything together as best I can, uh, one, first off, very proud of you. And I got there early. Oh, look at this man rolling his eyes as I'm trying to praise him. I got there early. I wanted to help as, as much as I could. You wouldn't allow me to do anything and. You drove. Yeah. But I mean, whatever, it was only five and a half hour drive. It was to support you and to each way. No. Yeah. If I'm never hours each way. Yeah. Yeah. I love an hour total. That's fine. Thank you. That's fine. I stood the entire show. Cause I, I know it was like, Oh, I'm going to sit driving the whole way there. And I'm sitting driving the whole way back. So I didn't even sit for the show. I stood the entire time to support you. I appreciate you. Um, no, but like everything looked really good. It was, I was even, I'll admit this. Like I was surprised at the turnout. I didn't know what to expect. I've been to indie shows. I've, I've seen very small crowds and I was like, Oh, there might be, you know, like 50, 100 people here. I don't know. Like it was way more than that. I was like, Oh, this is really, this is a really good turnout for this show. Again, the venue looked really nice. The way you set it up looked really nice. Uh, I know you were stressed going around. I legitimately felt bad. You were going around trying to get things in order with your boot on and everything. And I'm like, wait, Cole, please let somebody, but I understand that you want to do everything. You want to make sure everything is, is right the way you want it done. I was glad once the show started, you were able to decompress and it looked like a lot of relief once the show started, but I was, I don't fully know what goes into all this. I would say I know what goes into it a little bit being a chosen and talking to people, like it's a lot that goes into this and you being the person responsible for all of it. I can only imagine the, the stress and the pressure that you were feeling. And I was talking to my wife about it of like three weeks ago or so, like you, you learned of this injury and you're trying to put all this, this show together on top of this and like just being able to kind of push one thing aside because it's like, okay, yeah, I'm hurt, but like I got the show to run in three weeks, like I can't imagine what that actually took. So that's, that's on top of everything, the way the show came off. That's why I'm extra proud of you of just like all of this together. I know took a lot and it, but it was good to see it all come together and I was more than happy to be there and I will continue to be there as long as I can bully you into running the show. Oh, man, I appreciate that. Oh, yeah, man, it, it was a lot for sure like, um, again, this video is a show I haven't ran in five years. So like I, I've said every time, like the reason why do not want to run it is because the first one was so good that the second one had to either be absolutely blow it out of the water or it would, to me, it would have been a failure, you know. And then the leg injury happens and I'm dealing with all that, dealing with setbacks and everything else. And, um, luckily, you know, like, at the end of the day, like, not only did I book, you know, great, or not only were people that were in the tournament, awesome people to work with because of their professionalism and how easy it were. Like I had a really good support team around me, like, you know, and the guys Andrew over at explosive entertainment helped me out with the interest way. Um, hybrid championship wrestling helped me out with the lighting. Um, you know, new air wrestling made sure I got the ring, you know, like, they made sure it was set up and everything, you know, that I didn't have to worry and stress about that day. Um, you know, I had my buddy, Cam Adams, prepared, I mean, he helped me get the show all together and day on, he was not making sure that like, the small things I wasn't thinking of, that he was thinking of, my girlfriend, Karina, did the entire aesthetic for the show. So she said, you know, making sure it looks cool and it looks proper. And I was, I was just really lucky to have such good people surrounding me to where that it would have been able to be pulled off, you know, and a lot of fucking people showed up for sure. Like a lot more, like, we, you know, we, we had a bag of bleachers. We had to put in an extra third row, like, we, we had all these things that, you know, were backups for the best case scenario and like, it had, it was best case scenario. And the show went off really well, like, I think we told them, I think we told three different stories all in one night and that the crowd really, you know, was happy. We made a lot of good memories for kids that they will never forget. And that was my next thing I was actually going to bring up. And Jeremy's clip, I, I, it sounded like there were a lot of kids there, which is like a really great thing because a lot of indie shows, you can't do that because of like the content that's going to be death matches or whatnot, there must be a lot of kids there. It seemed like this was a very family friendly show. And it was very kid and interactive, like, there is a lot of moments where like, it felt like an interactive show more than it felt like a normal wrestling show. So like whenever I, whenever I would talk about it, I said it was a pro wrestling experience because like, we, we wanted to be different. We wanted it to feel different. We wanted you to go home feeling like you watched an awesome movie rather than you watch another wrestling show, you know what I mean? And I think, I think what was also surprising is yes, there was a lot of like kids there, there was also a lot of like adults too, that came by themselves to like enjoy a wrestling show. Like, you know, they were into the action. They loved the SpongeBob and Patrick, like they loved Hillbilly Jed. They loved Jay Lucas. They loved all these different people. Like, that's what was really cool is, you know, we had such a diverse group of talent and such a diverse crowd to where they enjoyed every. I don't know who's called this was and if it's yours, please take full credit for it. I know there's already the clip online of some of the kids beating up Trevor Outlaw. And that, so that's not spoiling anything. That's online. I, I didn't call nothing. Okay. Well, Let's get just hate Trevor Outlaw. Fair, honestly fair, honestly, very fair. So there's that clip online and you mentioned like the, the kid interact and this was the thing that like I was really the most like impressed by of there. There were a lot of kids and not only like you said, where they're just like, they're enjoying the show, like they get involved multiple times. There's that one clip that I just mentioned. There is more than that of when there's like three or four, but the thing is is it's not they were never at risk like it was all like safely like, yeah, that's the best part is you can find ways to make it fun and create memories from each people and these kids. And they're going to tell their buddies and the next show, they'll be like, let's go, you know what I mean? Oh, bro, everyone, they'd be talking about that at school and they were the, for sure. That's the story. They were telling everyone. That's awesome. I posted, I posted the photo of the, the winner. And there's like 20 kids in the ring with them after, sorry, Jamie Cole from New Era, sorry about all the kids being in the ring. But yeah, like they're all just like celebrating and it's like, oh, this is such a cool moment. And you know, after the show, the wrestlers are taking photos. There was this one kid who like dressed up as like a sponge bob. I have this photo. I didn't want to put it on mine because like, I don't want to put, put anything online that feel like these kids didn't don't want out there. The parents don't want out there. But I took it from my own, just like personal, this is like really cool that this person made a whole sponge bob outfit for this show. Like I was really impressed by that. Um, but yeah, the, the kid stuff of getting them involved, I thought was really, really fun and really, I was really like, oh, that's, that's great. Someone needed to do an RKO though. I was talking to your girlfriend and a couple kids were like, doing RKO, doing RKO. And I was like, oh, somebody's got to do out here just doing RKO. So I mean, the sponge about Patrick was, I mean, a 3D is half an RKO, half an RKO. I just want to say, thank you Jeremy for coming out. It meant a lot to see you there, it meant a lot to knowing that you drove five and a half hours and then right after the show drove five and a half hours right back to your house. It meant a lot that you drove all that way to come see a dumb creation that I came up with and that somehow came to life and worked out better than it ever should have. Um, but yeah, man, and I just want to, you know, meant a lot, meant a lot for everybody here at Fightful covering it, you, Joel, Steven, like, um, anybody that hopped on, how I even shone hopped on a couple of times. So like the support you all through my way, it's always sick as hell. I love coming on here and shooting the bullshit with you guys and maybe we'll shoot the bullshit about our event in December when we returned to the Owen Valley Sports Complex. You know what I'm saying? Midwest territory comes to the Owen Valley Sports Complex in December and we're going to keep pro wrestling fun and keep creating new experiences. Hell yeah. And Cole, I know you had a hard out for your, for your, which you got going on after this. So if you got to bounce, you know, I don't know if you had anything left, Jeremy, before Cole left, but you know, thank you. I just want to say thank you, buddy. Oh, well, I feel partly responsible for this show. I had literally had nothing to do with it, but the first time you mentioned the first show on our show, I did say if you run this again, like I will be there. I will do whatever you need me to do. I wrote the article that we needed to bully you into doing this show. So I did feel a little bit responsible. So I had to be there and I'm super glad that I went. I will continue to go as long as you were running it because, and however I can help out, I'll continue to do that just as one, a fan of you and a fan of SpongeBob. So I appreciate you, bro. I appreciate you, buddy. I appreciate you. Appreciate you, Steven. I love you guys. Love you, dude. Have a good rest of your day, man. Thanks for dropping. Thank you guys for having me. I was really to see Cole on here. I'm just, I'm just kidding about a little Sebastian's curse. I'm actually one of my favorite finishers, so I love, I love that finisher. Kind of a convoluted setup, kind of like Mercedes move, but like the payoff is totally worth it. Mercedes is kind of like drops you on your face and like doesn't look like it really hurts. Cole looks like he kills you with that, that little, that LSC. So, thank you once again to Cole for joining the show. And so, hey, right there, Jeremy, that was, we got GCW. I made sure to get all my, my indie spotlights in there with our guests. So we got all the TWE. So indie spotlights is done, guys. Like we, we, we got TWE spotlight out there. We had GCW's spotlight out there. So we're down to just WWE and, and Sid basically left, I think of pretty much just the stuff to talk about, which is pretty much perfect on time because we were thinking probably about 11 o'clock getting out of here because that's about the time our interviews would normally air if we weren't doing live. So this is perfect. We got about, about 35 minutes for y'all to talk to WWE and, and Sid Vicious before we get out of here. So thank you very much for everyone who's watching the show right now and bearing with us as well. A little bit different of an episode, but I figured it would be a good idea to take advantage of me, you know, not having a clock and for my shoe job today and get some familiar faces and some of our favorite guests on the show live for y'all today. So, thank you. I hope y'all enjoyed that. There's been plenty of insight with, with the Smitty and me being there and then with the WWE and GCW, I did watch both of those shows. I was very surprised. When I heard Cole's music, I was like, wait a second. I literally almost texted him like, you kayfaved us. You were, you were ready? I didn't. I was like, JBL stole your music. Yeah. I didn't think like it was gonna happen because I literally saw him the day before and I was like, there's no way he, I feel like he could have made it, but I know that was like a late night for him and he was like, he was moving his best he could, but I just didn't think like, oh, there's no way this is actually going to happen. So, but when his music hit and like, if he's like, how long come I was like, Oh shit, what if, what if. Oh man. I was barking out massively in my, it was, it wasn't, it wasn't quite, you know, Cody Rose winning the WWE level pacing around my apartment, but like, it was pretty close. I was, I was pacing around. I was like, I couldn't believe it. I was, I mean, Cole, we've just been talking about it before. Cole means a lot to us as, you know, somebody who we get on here a lot as a guest. I'm, I'm legitimately a fan of paid as a pro wrestler and, and as a person. So I'm really looking forward to whenever he's ready to come back and, and catch that brass ring and that'd be a hell of a payoff to if Mance holds on to this thing for a little while while Cole recovers and Cole takes man's out. That would be pretty huge. I think I'd love to see that. So from Lauderdale, if you're hearing this or you're seeing this, do not forget about Cole Rydrick and that brass ring because I am, I'm looking forward to that return. But yeah, homecoming was great though, all the way around good two, two, two great shows and GCW's, I feel like GCW is killing it right now. I think they're, they're doing really well. So. They are and the, I think the biggest thing coming out of homecoming, obviously Matt Cardone was back in the ring, but Nick Gage is not back in the ring and for Lauderdale kind of had to address that. We're not going to speculate on what's going on with Nick Gage, but Lauderdale did say that, you know, he was not there, doesn't know when he's going to be back, whenever he is back, he has a home in GCW. So best wishes to Nick Gage, he's, you know, part of our other intro for the, for our other spotlight with big fans of Nick Gage and just hopefully everything is good with them. And I don't want to speculate either, but what I will say, and this is just based on what you just mentioned, because I don't know if I, because I don't remember exactly what Brett said out there, but I don't know if the Gage wasn't there or not. I just know that he wasn't able to wrestle for whatever reason because he, because he Brett came out and said like this wasn't, I think he said like this wasn't a travel thing. This isn't, he's like, I'm not here to make excuses. Nick Gage can't wrestle tonight. And like, we don't know when he will be able to wrestle again. So I don't know if he was there and like, and like, it's like wasn't good to go. I have no, that's where I don't want to even continue to speculate any farther than that. But I was going to put that out there too. I don't know. I don't know what happened, but the Gage was supposed to wrestle Drew Parker on homecoming and he was supposed to tie a team with Matt Hardy the second night and he wasn't, he wasn't, he did not compete either night. So first and foremost, as you mentioned Jeremy though, I hope Nick Gage is okay. And I hope that, you know, he is able to come back, you know, when he's ready or, you know, I just, I don't know what's going on, but it, it is a little, it is a little concerning because I, I'm sure you remember, you know, this wasn't that long ago, like he missed that match with PCP Manny, that was like a really big deal to Manny and like they replaced him with Janela. And then people were like, man, I hope Gage is okay, like what's going on Gage. So I just, it's been in the back of my mind for a minute, like, but then we saw Gage come back and he wrestled Matt Hardy and they set up homecoming. So I was like, okay, so things, these must be our, and then like he missed those. So as a Nick Gage fan, I am concerned, but I hope, I hope everything is okay. And first and foremost, his, his actual, like what's most important is that he's physically and mentally okay. So like, you know, I just hope that that's, that he's okay. I'll just leave it at that. But yeah, it was a bummer that he wasn't there. The fans really wanted to see him. I need to finish the story in the WWE, the story never finishes. So to be passionate for like this weekend, it's all Saturday, because Cody Rose finally going to lose the title in this boring brain that he even has been just, dude, get out of here with that. Yes, come on man. We're thinking he's losing the Kevin Owens. Now I will, I will admit, I did not see whatever happened on SmackDown. So I don't know if there's been any more progress of like any kind of tension between Cody and Kevin. There was. So there was a segment, a town down under showed like a video package of Kevin Owens and everybody he's turned on in his career. Oh, okay. And Kevin was like, yeah, well, all those people deserve it, except for Kofi, Kofi didn't deserve it. But everyone else, they had it coming. And then there was a moment where Kevin had the title and it looked like like he was kind of hitting Cody, but then he just like put it on Cody, put it into like Cody's chest and then just kind of walked by him to try to fight a town down under. So those were kind of the teases of the tension. Okay. Gotcha. Also, just so y'all know, because I'm sure you care about this, the where I was streaming from before when I got back into my office out where I got like that Cody Rhodes 2K 24 poster that I was in front of for a little while here on the show. That whole wall is now better to be Cody Rhodes posters and like holding the title like the WrestleMania 40 posters and stuff. So I'm continuing to build that wall. I'd also have a life sized Cody Rhodes cardboard cutout out there as well. Very proud of that. Cody Rhodes definitely won't be losing to Kevin Owens on this show. Don't, it won't be happening. I think it'll be a great match though. I really do. I think Kevin Owens will, I shouldn't say rise to the occasion. Kevin Owens has always been great. I don't want to downplay Kevin Owens greatness, but like, I think that he knows how big of a deal this is like to get a world title match right now at this point of his career. And then also that it's against Cody, he has a lot of history with and Dusty was a mentor of Kevin Owens when he owns the NXT and stuff and like, he was one of Dusty's kids when Cody was actually Dusty's kid, but dressed up like a space clown that starred us at the time. But yeah, I mean, obviously I'm looking forward to any Cody Rhodes title defense and I think this will be another good W in the win column for Cody as champion as he continues to build, you know, kind of build his resume heading into, you know, eventually Randy Orton. I feel like as that's grew and that's got to be coming at some point in your future. I feel like, and then before we know it will be on that road to WrestleMania again as crazy as that sounds like we'll be, we'll be Royal Rumble season soon leading into WrestleMania and of course you have the rock and Cody Rhodes match already built in that they teased in left hanging when the rock left, but you also have the intangible of Roman Reigns is back. He's a massive baby face and he's, he's feuding with the bloodline and trying to take those guys out and eventually that'll lead to Roman versus the rock you'd imagine as well. So they got like two major rock singles matches, rock and Cody rock and Roman and like, which way you're gonna go with all that and when does all that happen. So I feel we're gearing up towards that, but Kevin Owens is a nice stop on the way to that. And yeah, totally expect Owens. Sorry. I totally expect Cody to beat, to beat Kevin Owens. >> Kevin Owens should win the title. >> I can hear the guy on your, it's not actually not as loud as, it's not like that. >> Yesterday was bad because they were doing like Jack hammering, I think right now like cutting into something which is. >> Got you remember that was happening to my, my ceiling the other week. I had to like, yeah, bad timing. I love how people do this stuff so early too. It's like, do this, do this one like I'm wide awake or you wake a little more than I do. >> They're here all day, like we're getting a lot of work done. >> Okay. >> But this is not like a one off thing. They're here from like nine to five basically. >> So when that stuff happens to me, anytime there's any kind of maintenance being done on my place, they don't tell me at all before they show up. And it's always at like, it's always at times where I could get another like two hours of sleep in and like, and it's like, you all have just not shown up at like nine instead of seven. >> Wait, this is not like maintenance. Oh, something has gone wrong. This is we are like remodeling stuff. >> Nice. Nice. >> Full on rebuild here. >> E.P. getting some, some full stuff? >> No. >> No, I didn't like heard it's not heard her decision to me. >> I mean, it's her decision, but you know, we got 12 kids. So we got a, you know, we're ready. >> Okay. >> I got you. I got you. >> As far as other stuff, I'm bashing Berlin because I doubt you don't have anything to add to the code. We're just going to talk about Tony losing until I tell you to shut up. >> I don't think he's going to lose. I don't like to lose. The match will be good. I'm curious about the post match if Kevin, if it is a full on turn after that or if they just like hug and embrace and like, okay, cool, we're friends. >> Yeah. I think it doesn't sound like that would probably happen, although I would, I honestly prefer for Owens to just like turn heel and just like, yeah, especially now that there's a little more leeway, wait, let me put it this way. When we saw it, I almost said Elginerica, when we saw it, same as in, do the Elginerica style brain busta off the top of the WrestleMania, one of the first things I thought it was like, okay, how long before kind of seeing it get to do a package power driver? And like, I feel like that's going to be reserved for a big moment, probably a big, a big title win or like a big heel turn or something like that, because like, if you're, if you're going to let things slide, let's you be a little more creative. If people are watching this and they're not familiar with Kevin Steen, Kevin Owens, you know, prior to him in the WWE, he was one of the most vicious, ruthless, just psychotic heels in wrestling history when he was on the indie scene, specifically in Ring of Honor and his feed with Elginerica, like, so I just want to throw that out there too. I'd love to see him. I loved Kevin Owens as a heel and NXT, like, when he first came in and won the championship and feuded with, with, with Sami Zayn back then, I, I loved that, that heel title run for Owens that eventually, he eventually dropped the title of Balor, I believe, in Japan. And anyway, so, yeah, and I don't know what power driver finished talking about in the chat. Is Jensen trying to just get Cody's title reign over with? No, I want a forever title run. I want Cody to surpass Roman Reigns. I want, I want this to be, I want, I want to get to WrestleMania 50 and Cody still lost this thing. And also, Joseph M says Cody board or chord board for Mike Cody cut out some, some, some play on words there in the chat that you Joseph are being a part of the show. But no pile driver finisher. I do not want Cody to lose his title any time soon. I hope he defends it and retains it over the rock. Also, they're gonna be sick, sick, probably not happening. It's from the show stands out to you. Well, I mean, it's only like five matches that we know of and probably all it's gonna be. It's probably all it's gonna be. Yeah. Which I like, I like how people have their complaints and their nitpicks on both companies. Too many matches, not enough matches. It's all mixed bag and just enjoy it for what it is or don't watch it or don't hate watching it. I mean, I like the five, listen, I like the 12 match all in show or whatever it was. I like five match WWE PLAs. I like that they give each math breathing, breathing room between matches and they run video packages and I actually enjoy it. And part of the reason is because my buddy Hughes that always has a AW, I've been trying to get him back in a WWE recently and even watch some of the PLAs with me and he's a perfect example. Well, he's much more than a casual fan. He's a hard for wrestling. He just doesn't watch the WWE anymore. But the point is if you don't watch the product and you tune in to just a PLA, they do a great job with the production of keeping you looped in of what's going on, who is who, who you should cheer for, you should be billing. I like the five match PLAs. So anyways, obviously CM Punk and Drew McIntyre, that's happening again. This is a Strat match. I said before and I'll say it again, I think I'd have McIntyre win again. If it was up to me, McIntyre would win every time he wrestles CM Punk. But realistically speaking, I think McIntyre, I think McIntyre can afford to win this Strat match again. But then they're going to have to have CM Punk win the third match, which will probably be a bad blood probably in Hell in a Cell, and it'll be their live cheering for Drew McIntyre during that one in Atlanta, excuse me. But yeah, I mean, how are you feeling about this one? I mean, I feel like it's just obviously it's like an extension of the few that they've been having for quite a while now and it's just a different match type. But do you think that Drew, or do you think that Punk rather beats Drew and ties it up going into the last match or do you think Drew McIntyre wins again setting up for like Punk has to win match three? I think if it is the touch four corners gimmick, I think Drew can win it in almost a backdoor way of Punk nocks him into the fourth corner. Right. We talked about that. I forgot that you brought that idea up, which is a good idea. The similar to the JBL Eddie Guerrero match, where that's basically how JBL won the title was like Guerrero, basically, like falling, or him like falling into it, basically. Yeah. So I think they can do that if it is the touch four corners gimmick, and then that sets up a third match at that blood, potentially Hell in a Cell, that Punk finally wins and gets his bracelet back and ends things. Yeah. I'm wish you don't seem very excited for this one. It's not that I'm not excited for it. Like, I think Punk's energy has been a little off in that. I mean, I like McIntyre's promo on Monday, where he's like, Oh, here comes CM Punk glad handing and all this stuff. Like, you know, he's just going to attack me from behind and then CM Punk attacked him from behind. Like, strap matches are weird to me. I don't like the four corners gimmick. Like if it's just a straightforward strap match, you pin the guy like, all right, cool. I'm for it. With touching, I'm going to beat you so bad that, like, I'm just going to touch these corners. Like, uh, that doesn't do a whole lot for me. Right. Especially when the idea is like you're strapped to one another so that like you can't get away from the other person. It's almost the same type of like backward psychology of like a steel cage match where you win by escape where it's like, you're supposed to be locked in so that, so that you settled the score and that you can't escape or have outside interference. Um, so yeah, I'm with you with that a hundred percent, especially because I guarantee there's going to be scenarios in this match where it's going to be like, punk can win right now. He's not Drew McIntyre dead to rights, but he doesn't want to touch that corner because he wants to keep putting the beat down on Drew to pay back for everything he's been doing and stealing the brace with all this stuff. So I guarantee you if back and tire wins, it's going to be presented in a way that like punk had it in the bag multiple times and like opted not to finish the match to continue the beat down and then drew wound up winning in the end, which also will keep feeding into the idea of a third match, probably a bad blood, probably a hell in a cell inside hell in a cell. So, so yeah, we'll leave it at that. Um, I'll take Drew McIntyre though. And then we have Gunther versus Randy Orton. I'm obviously looking forward to that. I just for the World Heavyweight Championship, if Orton wins, um, then he goes to Raw and if Gunther wins, Gunther goes to Smackdown, which is an interesting stipulation. Um, I would expect Orton to come to Raw either way, if you want the title, but Gunther's having to switch brands is, is strange, but at the same time, I guess it kind of makes sense. So if you're looking at it from like a GM or like a sports standpoint of like, well, we kind of need to make a trade then like, yeah, just your Smackdown, like you can't just have Randy Orton to Raw, like you've got to get something in return, you know what I mean? So it makes sense from, from, uh, from that sense, Joel Pearl with a chat, let's put that on the screen for a buddy Joel, going to be hilarious when see on punk wins by touching four corners. And then Drew comes out the next night and says, quote, punk, you may have won, but you never pin me. And then we get the match of bad, but yeah, I, that's super likely as well, super, super likely as well. Um, so, but yeah, as far as, as far as Gunther and Orton, I would expect. Um, I just like Gunther to retain, but I think they're going to have to keep Orton looking at certain level or certain, I mean, it's Randy Orton, he's bulletproof, right? But we all think that Randy Orton is going to be wrestling Cody Rhodes at some point for his title. So we'll just kind of see how long they space that out. Yeah. But all they got to do there is like a turn and then people are invested. Yeah. You're right. Like, you know, and I don't think the turn's going to come anytime soon, by the way, like it might survive or series happen, but yeah, I don't think it's coming anytime soon. Yeah. Orton's pretty cool. If he can lose the gun there and it'll, it'll be all right. Well, no, I mean, I expected Melissa Gunther and I know he's bulletproof enough to lose the gun. But my concern was, was more like how soon after losing a gun through, especially losing clean, probably, or hopefully, like then do you get a shot at Cody who technically has like the bigger title technically speaking? Yeah. But if he speaks it out, that's fine. The thing is, is all Cody does is fight a bunch of losers. So it makes sense that he would just like, Oh, Randy lost. I'll give him a title shot. That's my been my entire title reign. Oh, this guy that lost at WrestleMania to LA night, AJ Styles, let's give him a title shot. Oh, Sol's the koa who hasn't won a match in like a year. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's let's give him a title shot. Kevin Owens. Kevin Owens admitted he didn't deserve a title shot, but you know what? Let's give him a title shot. So it makes sense that Randy would lose anything in a title shot at Cody because that's been in his whole reign. I hate that. I hate that. I hate that. I can't argue that. I hate that. But the defense that I would make is like Orton's ago, AJ Styles ago, you know what I mean? These guys are like, we talked about Brian Danielson and somebody mentioned it earlier when we were talking about Danielson, they were like, one of my goes to be AJ Styles up there. And I was like, I always bring up AJ too. I think AJ is legit. Like if AJ, I guess he technically may have had a WrestleMania with the Boneyard match with Undertaker, but like I feel like if he had like a legit main event WrestleMania match in front of fans, like a real match, a real wrestling match front of fans in the main event of WrestleMania, I think that would solidify AJ like really, really, really, he's already way up there for me, but that would solidify him even more. But anyway, oh, the Miz powed our finisher matches. I could see that maybe happening if the Miz turn. Is there been any teaser the Miz turning on our truth lately? I would disagree with that, but I could, I could understand how you could make an argument for that. I think AJ's career in like TNA and New Japan, and I think people just overall enjoy his match catalog more than Sammy. I think when it comes to like WWE and the importance of like WWE, I don't think it's super close, honestly. >> Well, I mean, AJ has been multiple time world champion, Sammy's has never won the world title. >> Yeah. >> I know Sammy's had WrestleMania moments and like the big match and elimination chamber in Canada and so I mean, I under, I could understand the argument you could make there, but the thing I look at with AJ and I've talked about this before is like, you can literally, I know this sounds insane and people who weren't around for it won't understand. And I know you were around for it, so I think you will understand. You could literally take AJ Styles' TNA and New Japan run as its own career and then his WWE run as its own career and both would be Hall of Fame level careers. Like I think AJ Styles is the kind of guy like had he never even wrestled in the WWE and ended his career after his New Japan run. He still had enough clout as like the guy who was the best to never wrestle in the WWE. And like he would have been like, he made me never would have made it to the WWE Hall thing, but they have inducted people that weren't really WWE guys in there. But then like, even if you didn't have the TNA run and didn't have the New Japan run, if you don't just his WWE run, he's the WWE Hall of Fame, or he's accomplished more in that run than a lot of people who only wrestle in the WWE the whole career have. So like, that's where I feel like AJ is almost like an anomaly, we're like, he's like, he's almost like a double Hall. He has like two separate careers that are both Hall of Fame worthy. So like, you know, that's not many people can say that. >> And look, AJ Styles is one of the guys who got me back into wrestling when I went through a lull after WCW got purchased and the invasion sucked. And then a lot of my favorites retired or just weren't as active anymore. Like, Styles was that guy on the Indies and then TNA who really got me back into things. So it's not a knock on AJ Styles at all. I do just think very highly of Sami Zayn and what he's actually accomplished in WWE despite not having a world heavyweight title run like AJ said. Bro, I've got this thing, this is sick. It's AJ Styles the Nitro shirt. >> My God. >> They made this figure randomly a couple of years ago. Young AJ, because like technically he, him and Air Paris were on WCW for a few weeks before the company got bought. So they made this figure, I think what Mattel was thinking when they made this was like, yes, technically, he wasn't WCW, we're gonna make it a WCW figure. But for all the people out there that have wanted like a TNA AJ to display, like you just pop this shirt off and give him like a custom hoodie or whatever, and you got a TNA AJ, you know what I mean? But yeah, pretty cool, pretty cool little Easter egg of a figure that a lot of people probably didn't even know is out there. But I remember Air Paris and Air Styles out there because they were the NWA wild side guys from Georgia that like wound up, you know, anyways. Yeah, this is our spotlight had nothing to do with AJ Styles, but I will always take an opportunity to hype up and glaze AJ Styles. Like I've said a thousand times, if I had to make a list of my favorite professional wrestlers of all time, that I legitimately think have like goat status. AJ is definitely on my list. He's in like the top five, top three, probably like he's way out there. All right, let's go on to our final spotlight. It's sadly a sad spotlight. Our product is what it is. We're going straight up the middle wrestling world flossed. Psycho Sid, Sanficious, Sid Justice on Monday, very, very sad. Sid was one of my, I think people know this. I talked a lot about this on in the week, so I don't rehash a lot. Sid was like one of my favorites. Growing up, I just always enjoyed the, the, the presence of him. And just the, the way he was just captivating, but also hilarious. Like he just had some hilarious moments that were unintentional. But it's like, ah, I kind of rules didn't seem to take himself too serious on that kind of stuff. And, and then as I grew older, I appreciated even more because he was just a straightforward kind of wrestler. You knew what you were getting with Sid. And I enjoyed the wrestling that he did. And I appreciated that it was so just straightforward. And it would just mall people and toss them around. And I was wanting to see him return and do something a little bit more. And now you kind of understand why it didn't happen. But yeah, it was, it was sad and very unfortunate. And, you know, what are your thoughts, Jensen? Yeah, I mean, I obviously agree, you know, us being the same age, we grew up on Sid Bish. He was like, you know, everyone, excuse me, everyone who does a, like a power bomb is a finishing move. You know, I always like when people add their, their own little take to it, right? Like something a little different to make it, to make it their own. And for Sid, he would do like the power bomb a lot of time. Like he'd do it like from the side where he'd like pick, you know, kind of pick you up on like one shoulder or he'd go like down to a knee when he dropped you and stuff. It always just looked like he was killing people with that thing. Um, I always, I always appreciated his, uh, his believability. Um, one of the scariest things I've ever seen in my life was, was him going off that, off the ropes and WCW and, and, and just destroying his leg. That was, I remember watching that live. I was in middle school at the time. Um, and I remember that because I remember kids talking about it at school the next day. And, uh, I was convinced that it was a work. I was like, they, no, they stopped like pillows and the dudes booing like that because it looked so fake. I was, I had never seen a break like that where like the thing got right angled, you know what I mean? I was like, this is, and so I, and so from that sense, it's not surprising that he never made like a full on like big return. Like he did, he did come back a little bit after that. And I think the last thing he ever did was like the, the he's later thing that I can remember. He did one more match after that. Like an ending match. Okay. But yeah, I'm trying to remember what Matt, do you remember what match that was? The ending match? Yeah. Can you look that up real quick? Yeah, I can, I can look it up. Um, I feel like. I feel like. Yeah, I'm away. It was, it was G and W against Paul Rosenberg. Okay. Got you. Which I don't think it's that Paul Rosenberg. Yeah. Well, you're talking about Pete Rosenberg. There's also a Paul Rosenberg. I mean, oh, oh, okay. Um, but yeah, it was always a bummer that we didn't get like a real return. But listen, the dude loves softball. That's been a meme for a long time about how he prioritized softball, wrestling. And to be completely honest, I love a respect I have for that is like pretty. Like, put that into perspective. People were afraid to even like. Knock on Vincent Man's door to his office to like ask what creative plans they have for. Like, you know, I mean, it was that level of intimidating to everyone else. Sid Vicious would be like, yeah, I can't make it tonight. I got a softball game. I mean, like, good for him, good for him. Like, you know what he, he knew what he loved and he prioritized his own happiness over, you know, yeah, I, but it is, it is just, it's a massive bummer. Like he, in the grand scheme of things, he died young, you know, younger than he should have. Um, I don't know, man, it's tough. Like I wasn't a huge WWF fan when he was like on his come up in the WWF, but obviously you have gone back and watched that stuff over the years. And, you know, he was very influential and important in the, in the, in the come up of Shawn Michaels, like people shot Michaels. Yeah, said as much. It was good to see Sean acknowledge that of how important he was to like the heartbreak kid character. Yeah. And that's very true. Cause that's mainly because I knew of him because like he would bounce around. And then, and I, I watched so much of like my early wrestling off of like blockbuster VHS tapes. So like, I'd, I'd get one tape and it'd be like early, said justice or whatever. Then like, I'd get another tape from, I feel like a WWF tape and it'd be said justice. I get a W70 tape. It's vicious. Like another WWE app tape. It's psycho said. And it's like, he's bouncing around companies, but he was consistently an intimidating presence. I remember in like the early days of like, uh, like finding stuff on the internet to finding like the clip of him, uh, messing that promo up live and trying to get them to start it over and, uh, and like, they're like, you mean jeans like we're live, pal? Just did start over. Um, it's up like that. So like I, uh, I have a lot of memories of Sid Vicious. Some were funny, some were downright scary. Uh, but at the end of the day, he's a name and a presence and like a face that, even if you aren't a big wrestling fan, a lot of people know the names. Psycho said, um, a lot of people would recognize him if they saw him and I feel like you can't talk about, you know, like 90s wrestling without him being brought up. He was a major player in both of the major companies. I mean, so did you do some ECW as well? Yeah. Yeah. He did me too. Yeah, between, uh, the WWE and the, uh, WWE run. Yeah. He sure did. He sure did. So, yeah, rest in peace to, uh, to psycho Sid, Sid Justice, Sid Vicious, whatever you want to call him, Sid Yudy. Is that, is that how he pronounces real last name? But, uh, yeah, I've got a whole, a whole lot of thoughts on, on, on him. And they're all, they're all positive. You know, the only negatives aren't like negative him as a human being. They're just like really traumatic, like, like the injury and stuff. Like I just, that was the most brutal injury I've ever seen in the sport of any time. Like I've never seen something like that before. And I feel especially bad about it. Cause apparently he told people beforehand he wasn't comfortable attempting the move. Yeah. Um, that should have never happened and had that never happened. He probably, you know, probably doesn't take any breaks and he might have still been going to this day to some, to some degree, you know? Oh, he would have been beaten up Effie. Uh, if he was, you know, still, you'd be passing the towards the Josh Bishop, dude. Yeah, and that's the one thing that people already made the, the Josh Bishop Sid Vicious comparison a lot, but I think it'll happen even more like right now. Cause Sid Vicious is going to be on people's minds, but it'll be kind of like a cool tribute, I think is Bishop, Bishop style and stuff. He'll be hitting people with those power bombs, those, those, um, Bishop bombs and stuff that are very similar to the way that, you know, a little bit different of a setup, but a lot of, a lot of similarity there with, with the psycho Sid and stuff, so he can kind of like almost like spiritually success a little bit. Uh, and, and remind the people of, of Sid Vicious a little bit right now too. But, um, but yeah, it's a bummer. I, I obviously wish this didn't happen. And it was, it was, it was cancer, wasn't it? Yeah. So I mean, that's just, as somebody who has had a lot of cancer running their family, um, I am unfortunately very familiar. And that's just, it's choking me up thinking about it. It's a, it's a, it's a real bomber. I hate that this happened and I hate that he's gone and I, you know, once again, you talk about 90s wrestling, you, you got to bring up Sid Vicious, psycho Sid. I mean, he worked for the top three promotions and I only worked for the top three promotions. He was a big part of all three promotions. He made it into two Wrestlemanias. He made it into Star Cade. He was always in a high profile position in all the companies. And when he wasn't doing that, he's doing cool worker shit. Like being like, nah, softball is more important. Or, you know, that, that doesn't work for me before. Oh, no, not really before. Always has claims. So, but, you know, he's like, all right, what are we doing? I'm going out there and going straight forward, get to the point. Well, it also seems to me like the kind of guy who probably didn't take any crap from any of those kinds of guys to like if Hogan would have like, that doesn't work for me, brother, like you probably wasn't saying it to Sid's face. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like I feel like Sid had like a level of clout that, and like there's a level about him that, I don't know. I mean, he was the world champion, WSW and WWF. I mean, like that's there's not many people who did that when you really think about it, like we're not talking like post invasion when the title belts are like flopping all over the place, like the rocks that WSW champion and stuff. We're talking like legitimately went from back and forth major company, major company became, we have become in the world champion in both. He was one of my favorite things about like the end, the dying days of WSW. Like, you know, when that ship was sinking, Sid Vicious was still a bad ass, you know, until the injury, of course, but yeah, but yeah, rest in peace, rest in peace to to Sid, big loss for the wrestling world. All right, everybody, that is going to start to end on a sad note there. But that's going to do it. Talk about psycho says. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, yeah, of course. All right, Jensen, anything you want to plug before we get out of here? Um, this Sunday, like for select weekend or podcast cover in the world of indie wrestling, unless there's like a really late Sunday. Uh, indie show that I need to cover, then it'd be maybe a Monday upload. But, um, oh, speaking of Monday, Monday is a holiday. Um, is it? It is. Yeah, it's Labor Day. Oh, yeah, I guess I won't be working that day either, which is great. Um, so I will make a plug for something that's very important and near and dear to my heart, getting a little sentimental. All right. Gonna break character a little bit and talk about something very serious. Oh, this is September 2nd, right? Is the is Labor Day, which is pulled up on the screen. September 2nd live on Netflix, Joey Chestnut versus Kobayashi. If you consider yourself to be a red-blooded American human being, you better be tuning in on September 2nd and watching Joey Chestnut. My hero should be your hero and American hero beating Kobayashi. It's a long awaited rematch. I'm really looking forward to this. Actually, I'm really looking forward to this. Me too. Me too. Trust me. I'm very, very much looking forward to it. I hope you have the autograph of Joey Chestnuts that I got for you and sent to you. I do. It's right here safely, uh, safely guarded. There you go. It's safely in my, you know, right there. Jeremy, eat more. Joey Chestnut. I got one for you. Got one for Jesse Daven. Got one for myself. So, um, yeah. Yeah. Joey Chestnut. Good luck, buddy. You don't need it though. I can't wait to celebrate that win next week. That'll be one of my other spotlights for next week show. We Joey Chestnuts, uh, defeat of Kobayashi. So looking forward to that. And, uh, yeah, I think that's pretty much everything going on. Follow me on exit by talk underscore. Um, I'm not really active that much anymore on there, but I, uh, you know, pop in here and there to stir up some CM Punk, you know, controversy or whatever. Enjoy bash number one. I'll be watching the show and, uh, yeah. I think the, I think the world of wrestling is in a great place right now. Jeremy, the UW is coming off of an awesome show and they're heating up again. Does it be the best, then, you know, very long time. Maybe ever the best ever for me, you know, finish Cody's in. And then these are thriving. GCW is doing great. And, uh, yeah, I'm looking forward to being back here now. Oh, by the way, I was so Maggie's on a plane. I invited Maggie to come online. I was like, this is the perfect opportunity to join the show. And of course she's traveling today. We will get Maggie on the show at some point, uh, for a spotlight interview. It's just tough with her time difference. So we'll make it happen. But it's everything I got. Thanks for joining us today. We went long for y'all. Um, but, you know, try to take advantage of not having a clocking for the shoe job today. So appreciate everyone who watches on the band. Appreciate everyone who's here live and, uh, appreciate you, Jeremy. You know, on, on, on a real note, like, you know, you know, I, I say this all the time behind the scenes and I'll take the opportunity to say it now. I love doing this show. I legitimately do. I base my actual shoe job hours and stuff. I take, I take heat from my shoe job often because of this one thing that I prioritize over my actual job, which is this show. Um, I love that we do this show. I love the people checking this show out, whether you're a first time viewer or you're a long time viewer, we appreciate you. We appreciate the people who come on here and talk to us. We appreciate people like those and Cole forgiven us so much of their time and coming on live with us today. Um, this means a lot to be able to do this show. And, uh, without you, Jeremy, I know I wouldn't be doing it. So thanks, bro. And, uh, I hope everyone has a great, great weekend. Uh, I assume Maggie will be back for coexisting tomorrow. Uh, I'm sure she will have her live experience from AEW all in there. So everybody will definitely want to tune into that. That's Friday at three p.m. Eastern on fight for overbooked. Uh, I appreciate you, Jensen. Uh, I don't like compliments about myself. So that's why I was just going to ignore, ignore that part. Um, but I appreciate you. So just know, yeah, completely no sell it. Yup. Exactly. That's why people who don't know if we started this show and think February 2022. And it was coming off of you doing the distraction with, with Joseph, who we both love, who by the way, I do want to get on this show at some time, some point to talk to. I would love to catch up with Jill with, uh, with Joe. Um, but if it wasn't for you, I wouldn't be doing the show straight up. And I'd never forget that. I never, I never take that for granted. If it wasn't for you reaching out and being like, Hey, I'm thinking about doing something different and I want you to, to be the cohost. I, I don't know what the hell I'd be doing. I don't know if I didn't be talking about wrestling or podcasting or I'd probably be doing the weekend or still for Fightful Select. But like, I don't know what else I'd be doing. I'd be struggling. I'd be grinding. I don't know what I'd be doing. So this, I appreciate you, man. And I'll put you on the spot and say it live publicly for everybody today. Because normally it's going to set up behind the scenes. People know we like to troll each other and, you know, joke around and ship. But like this show means a lot to me. And the people who watch the show mean a lot to me as well. I appreciate everybody that tunes in. I appreciate everybody that sends their support and their, their feedback and their appreciation. Uh, I appreciate you, Jensen. And yeah, we will, we'll be back next week. Everybody with a new episode. Appreciate everybody hanging out with us this morning. There's a lot of wrestling this weekend, awesome. There is maybe for you. NLW tonight, ROH tonight, TNA weekly tonight, ROH weekly tonight as well. That's three shows just tonight. Smack down tomorrow, TNA emergency tomorrow. New Japan capital collision tomorrow. Three more shows. Bashing Berlin on Saturday, NXT no mercy on Sunday collision on Saturday as well. That doesn't even count. Whatever indies are running this weekend. That's all stuff. I'll be covering. So I think GCW is running Chicago. Sounds terrible on what's the 31st? That's Sunday. No, that's Saturday. That's right. Yeah. So which is great. I love it because I don't think they're running a Sunday show. So I can, I should be able to do the weekend or on Sunday. Um, it's terrible. But, uh, yeah. Vance Warner for scringo loco is the main event of GCW on Saturday. And that's, that's, you know, that's home field for gringo loco. So, uh, should be a good one. Yeah. Yeah. First is a dark she can happy for the tag titles also. We'll be back next week, everybody. A lot. Well, I'm sure we'll have a lot to talk about coming off all these shows this weekend. So then everyone enjoy your weekend. Be safe to enjoy whatever you're doing. Happy Labor Day to everyone out there. Talk to you all next week. Bye, everybody. At King Super's pharmacy, care is making it easy to get vaccinated. Care is helping you stay protected from flu, COVID and RSV. 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