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Ep. 884. Why Should One Not Add Other Words into Their Bracha? After the Fact (בדיעבד) Is One Allowed to Insert a Phrase for an After Bracha? (Example: על הגפן into על המחיה).

Why Should One Not Add Other Words into Their Bracha? After the Fact (בדיעבד) Is One Allowed to Insert a Phrase for an After Bracha? (Example: על הגפן into על המחיה).

Duration:
7m
Broadcast on:
28 Aug 2024
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mp3

Why Should One Not Add Other Words into Their Bracha? After the Fact (בדיעבד) Is One Allowed to Insert a Phrase for an After Bracha? (Example: על הגפן into על המחיה).
welcome everybody should number 884 getting back to our host brothers okay we want to finish off the subject what we've been talking about if somebody ate drank wine in the natural if it's wine the natural if they drank enough or if they ate a fruit that the natural if it's one of the if it's a if it's from the shivers aminum whereby it needs aloha et al or or or a burn of fascia so we spoke about that last year so just backtracking a minute the the the it just one explain one thing mishbrooke explains why if I dream why I took a cup of wine and I don't know if it's wine I don't know if it's grape juice right so I'll go ahead and eat some cookies and I'll make ala michia and I'll just stick in ala eights ala geffin I'll just stick in ala geffin what's so bad about that right what am I doing so bit we spoke about last year if I ate fruits that I don't know if it's burned the fushos or ala eights so I'll just eat cookies or cake and then I'll make ala michin I'll stick in all the ways because fruits is fruits it's still good but over here if I'm going to make a ala geffin on the one I'll stick in ala geffin into my ala michia like an extra phrase so it's if you think about it it says the michia grins if cotton pay that time the also chamber because the burn of fushos maybe it's a burn of fushos for Ainshag poi shame geffin and if you stick in ala geffin or prayer geffin into your ala michia which we spoke about last time right so so it's a month of shilul a hazka kal is better you would not not to say it at all because your mom is making a it's a hephsic it's a hephsic in your brocha I'm if you go ahead and make an ala michia and you just stick in other words right that's a hephsic that's mom's you know it's like almost almost like talking out in the middle of the brocha you can't do that right so and so if you say ala geffin what is that have to do with with ala michia well if you say ala eights right in in the brocha of of ala michia whatever so you ate fruits anyway so at least it's somewhat kosher as they say but if you say the words ala geffin what is that what what does that have to do it could be could maybe it's burn of fushos right so okay be it as it made that's the bottom line and the bottom line is to just to go ahead and stick it in you'll say well I'll just make it and stick it in any way you can't just stick in any any words that you want you can't say let's say I'll make my ala michia and I'll make up my own words and stick them in in the middle a couple of words make it a better brocha you can't do that right that's obviously that's a hephsic a personal mom's would have to make over a new brocha that's mom's you brocha levatole you can mess up the brocha making up your own words okay I'm talking about a few if you change the lotion but okay but that's the reason putting that aside a minute so let let's just finish off the subject and move on so what's the bottom line if if somebody be the evic is your shots and masqueous im a super the the brocha say and the aim lawyer and so let's say the bottom line is somebody had a drink and they don't know is it wine is it not wine and I don't or isn't grape juice is a not grape juice so says the michia brew and and I don't have any so drink more wine I don't have any more wine so we said good don't stick it into a ala michia don't stick it into a ala eight so a different type of brocha don't make the ala gefen over there but that's la katrila what about bideve i'm stuck what am i gonna do should i or shouldn't i what's the bottom line so he brings down there's a michia brew and in um uh sift cut and pay bays that the da sattah is right so the da sattah is this kimu yima kama right and la dina that the bottom line is bideve de loya means fursu that which we said not to do it not to stick in ala gefen into an ala michia just to make sure possibly maybe it was wine um lainian la katrila all that is la katrila the hynu she used to master in other words i drank wine i drank a drink for yes michael lainian brocha roina al smach and i drink it i drink it i don't know i'm not quite sure if i have if i'm gonna drink enough if it is the right drink or whatever the or if it is why not what but i'm gonna drink it anyways and i'll just make another after brocha i'll just make an ala michia and i'll stick it in that you shouldn't do right with the with the reasoning of la katrila of doing it on purpose she is lo acha kah i'll do it on purpose but so you shouldn't accept that don't do ala miamadhi evid ah ah so now he says that the taz and others um agree with the taz it brings from the alio robin my mortichai others over there um the bottom and the charotene that if somebody's mamish stock um and they don't know what to do ala mohynian de evid the hynu shekvaro shausamashka i already drank it she actually esophic i don't know that i drink enough that i'm not drinking enough that is a wine isn't now i really did it what am i going to do i didn't realize i'm not supposed to it was mutem shihi club was so mimashi shambu lei brocha and a cloud it's better to stick it into another's go ahead and eat uh if if you don't have any other wine go ahead and eat some cookies eat some cake make an ala michia if you ate enough and stick in the ala gaffin over the even though you're not supposed to do a la katrila but you stuck i did it already so should i not make an after brocha no make make do that stick it in make the ala gaffin of course you'll make the burn of fushas like we said in in a case in a case in time whereby it's you're not sure if you drank wine or not if you didn't drink enough you don't know if you drank enough or whatever so then there's no burn of fushas it's either right it's i know it's wine but i know i didn't drink enough so then it's just a question of sticking in the um sticking in the ala gaffin into another ala michia there's no burn of fushas i know that it's why i said i don't know if i drank enough maybe yeah maybe not so but over here some sort of over here um if you don't know if it's wine or or not so then you would have to make a burn of fushas we said on something else eat something else we're buying another fruit another item um and make a burn of fushas and have it in mind for that part of it then the other part he could stick in to a ala michia or or if somebody didn't drink enough whatever the case is he can stick it into the it's a suffix again stick it into ala michia again bidievid i got stuck that's all i have i don't have more wine and that's it what am i going to do so it's better he says michia bruh says yeah and it's better she said it's better she said it's better she said it's better to stick it into a different brotha different ala michia or a different ala michia and she's sticking the ala gaffin over there um alb'sofic in other words even though you're not sure but stick it in just those words ala gaffin and like this you cover at least that much bidievid i said that's an important point to keep in mind in all these cases whereby one has a suffix okay we'll stop over here but we see the mindset that it could be done bidievid i want next year business which is called through uh some other cases let's say i ate enough cake i ate some cake or cookies and i don't know if i ate enough right we we spoke about last time a person has to be careful because um make sure you eat enough of the flower part um right in cake that uh kazais of the flower part not just uh general uh kazais because cake in usually is it's 50-50 yeah 50-percent flower 50-percent sugar and all the other ingredients whatever else is put into the cake right um eggs and these type of things so assuming that if that's the case so let's say you would you would have to eat two kazais so let's say i don't know i ate a cookie they cake i don't know if i ate enough what should i do um is it going to fall since it's not so we'll talk about next year uh just finish off with that could i make a different after brokha right let's say i'll drink uh and i drink enough wine so i'll stick in the al-ha-mihia over there with that help and also i want to talk about the safer so luck it springs down these cases that what about my friend i don't know if i have to make after brokha or not if i ate enough in other words al-ha- al-ha-mihia what about if my friend is maven could i have beated with him but he also drank wine but we'll see how that i don't want to get all fine attention we'll see how that works next year thank you for listening us with lack of graphic content.