In this inspiring episode, we sit down with Gillian Stapleton, a renowned leader, public speaker, and author of the memoir "Running in Circles." Gillian shares her journey from being the first female CEO of Direct Selling Australia to becoming a marathon runner at 49 and how she now empowers menopausal women to move more and lead happier, healthier lives. Tune in to hear Gillian's insights on finding time for self-care, overcoming challenges, and living a more contented and meaningful life.
Key Topics:
- Empowering menopausal women to move more
- The importance of self-care for busy working mums
- Overcoming challenges and finding time for yourself
- The ripple effect of running on life and personal growth
- Strategies for living a more contented and meaningful life
Guest Bio:
Gillian Stapleton is a renowned leader, public speaker, author, and former CEO of Direct Selling Australia, where she was the first woman appointed in its 50+ year history. She has led multinational global organizations and Australian-based not-for-profits, run her own business, and served on various boards. Gillian is passionate about empowering women to find their true passion and thrive. An accomplished marathon runner, she holds the World Majors Marathon medal and has completed 13 marathons. Her memoir, "Running in Circles," retells her journey and the lessons learned from each marathon.
Links:
-Website: gillianstapleton.com (https://www.gillianstapleton.com)
- Facebook: Gillian Stapleton (https://www.facebook.com/gill.stapleton)
- Instagram: @runningincircles42 (https://www.instagram.com/runningincircles42)
- Book: Running in Circles (https://www.amazon.com/Running-Circles-Marathons-Journey-Empowerment/dp/0645666602/)
- LinkedIn: Gillian Stapleton (https://www.linkedin.com/in/gillstapleton/)
Join us for an enlightening conversation with Gillian Stapleton as we explore how to empower menopausal women to lead healthier and happier lives through movement and self-care.
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on this episode of tell us a story what does it feel across the finish line for you that's the most exciting bit it's everything turns out it's not the distance of a marathon all the time it took the two were simply tools to find that something inside yourself so I've had friends from all over the world you know Manitoba I wouldn't have known where Manitoba was had I not had a running friend so everybody knows I'm just how do you eat another friend running a circles my well my book came about because I kept saying every time I did a marathon and I've done all the iconic the world majors is a series of marathons and I've done them all I've done six of those which is what at the moment there is six we're hoping Sydney will be number seven then the bomb came along Boston we were just on fire Helen and I and then welcome to tell us a story the podcast by Belmont City Press where entrepreneurs and sales professionals share their journeys insights and strategies for success in each episode our guests reveal how they've overcome challenges establish their brands and leverage their stories to promote their businesses so you can too I'm Red Hilton your host for this episode today I'm joined by Julian Stapleton owner of Julian Stapleton .com so Julian tell us a story thank you so much for allowing me to tell my story at Julian Stapleton .com I empower menopausal women to embrace a healthier and happier lifestyle through increased physical activity my ideal clients are busy working moms like myself who feel they have no time and are looking to find their best self both at work and at home and ultimately living a more contented and meaningful life through moving more so my keynote that I do always inspires audiences to move more to get up of their seats and take some action and you can find me at jillianstapleton.com and you can also find me on Instagram at running in circles 42 why 42 well because 42 in our side of the world is the number of kilometers it takes to complete a marathon and my story is about running 12 marathons in my 50s and how it changed my life and you can read my story in running in circles chasing dreams and dodging hot flashes on Amazon that is fabulous I love all of that talk to us about how jillianstapleton.com came to be what is your story and bring us to where you are my story started at the age of 47 and again I was that busy working mom raising two children being hopefully a good wife and a good CEO and there was no time for me and I saw an advertisement on the television here in Sydney Australia to learn how to run a 10k they called it the bridge run in Sydney and I went I want to learn to run I didn't know that you had to learn to run and you probably don't need to learn how to run but in my mind it was an accountability I went to this course I spent three months training to run the 10k bridge run in Australia and it's iconic here because you get to it's the only time in the whole year you can run across the harbor bridge which is iconic and you finish at the Opera House another iconic everybody's heard of those two amazing things in Sydney and I ran those 10k's I ran those 10k's I crossed the line and it was the furthest I'd ever run in my entire life and some amazing volunteer popped a medal around my neck and in that moment my life changed red because I felt like a world champion I felt like I could do anything if I could achieve that what else could I achieve and that's where our story started I met Helen who became a lifelong friend and now lives down the road from me and we started running we ran a half marathon and then we one day after a few campaigns we said why don't we run a marathon and we were both busy working mum CEOs of businesses and we went well if we're only gonna run one we'll run the streets of Paris booked our flights our husband said we're coming to and the four of us went off to Paris and we ran the streets of Paris in 2009 was my first marathon and in September I'll be running my 14th marathon in Sydney I'm going back to Sydney because it's such an important race for me because it's where the journey started and so I'll be running the iconic Sydney marathon which is hoping to be one of the Abbott world majors and I will be running that in September so 42 kilometers across the Harbour Bridge again all around the streets of beautiful Sydney and I will finish at the Opera House at some point in the day I will finish the finish line is forever it absolutely is and I took that from your pre recording I love that statement it's a great great saying absolutely that's that's all you need to carry with you it'll be there when you get there and it's forever it's beautiful talk to me about running in circles running in circles my well my book came about because I kept saying every time I did a marathon and I've done all the iconic the world majors is a series of marathons and I've done them all I've done six of those and which is what at the moment there is six we're hoping Sydney will be number seven and for me somebody once said to me you just run around in circles and often I do you know I'll often do this amazing little track I've got out the back of my house it's a 10k route through the bush and you start at the house and you run around and you come back and that's where it all started because you might run in circles but you're never the same when you come back from when you left running in circles allows me to deal with any problems I might have going on it allows me to meet friends and family community it's connected me and I feel like a circle is this whole being of running people think it's just about putting on your shoes and it's the ripple effect of running is far more the circles it's made and I you know I was gonna call the book ripple effect of running but it's the circles there's this continually bigger and bigger circles in my life that running's had such a major impact on tell me what some of your ripples are with some with some of the circles that have you know opened and closed for you with running that's a great question I mean crossing the line of the first marathon in Paris you really felt I could achieve that in the sort of we trained for about four months if I can run 42 kilometers at the age of 49 what else can I do so it opened up professionally it really opened my mind to pushing myself through some you know work and rise into the top of businesses and going well if I can do that what else can I do but it's also we've I've had some huge challenges in my running and we talked about Boston I was there in 2013 when the bomb went off and for me what running a marathon and training for different events is done is developed I would say my resilience muscle every time you think you've got this you've trained you've got no injuries you get to the start line and Boston we were just on fire Helen and I and then the bomb came along well you can't prepare for that and it taught me that you can be the do the best training and the best presentation and the best thing at work but you've got a pivot as we said through covid you just got to just got to be ready for every eventuality and running has really taught me that that's awesome and yes the tragedy in Boston I think being so close to it I think it means so much to me and having it mean so much to so many people that are not from here it's it sort of connects us all it really it you know it connected all of us a horrible horrible tragedy but since then what it did for you know the people in the running community as well and you know having us sort of give get some perspective yeah and as runners we're all connected in some way you you know I've traveled for work and it's given me the great privilege of being you know in a work environment and you're in a meeting and somebody says what are you doing tomorrow let's go for a run before work and you meet these people I've got friends all over the world colleagues and friends that I've run the beautiful streets of Salt Lake City and Chicago and all these places where I was fortunate enough to work and Sydney and all of us and you you meet people on a different level you really get to understand them we were out just the other morning and we said it's like free counseling free therapy because you go out for a run and you say to a girlfriend what about this or what about that and you get three or four different perspectives perspectives on how to solve a problem it's fantastic I love my running community there's nothing like going to a city I had to go to Philadelphia for work and I was there you know with a bunch of people and we went out for a run and seeing the city as you're running through it it was amazing I mean literally running the rocky stairs and you know all of those iconic things and you're out there and it's total freedom to go anywhere you want and you know sort of create your own path I think that's what running gives a lot of us oh I couldn't agree more I think I've seen some other and this week was just amazing on my Instagram running in circles 42 check it out this week we went for an early morning run it's quite cool where I live at the moment on the far south coast of New South Wales and I think I've got a winning song sunrise picture it was amazing the lake and the river and the ocean were all pink and I think I've seen so many inspirational things getting up early and I'm not a morning person people say it's all right for you and I'm going no you know how much I have to drag myself out of that bed in the mornings before the sun comes up and it's freezing cold and put that gear on and head out but I'm always rewarded you know this this week you know it was amazing the sunrise and the running along the beach this week was it's why I run people say why do you run why do you do it that's why because there are moments like that when you see a city in a different light you see the the garbage being collected and you see the city waking up of a morning and I find that just inspirational I talk about and you talk touched on a little bit the community that you create through running yeah and I think that for me is is why I keep running when I went moved to Sydney I'd been living there for me I moved from England I've been living there sort of seven years and hadn't really it's very difficult when you're a busy mom and you're getting children into school and there were teenagers so there was no meeting mums at the school gate and I felt I'd not carved out any you know of those deep friendships that I'd left behind after 40 years in the UK and running gave me that I joined this running group I met Helen and I talk about it in the book we did the warm up training at the oval and we looked at each other and went oh thank goodness that's over and then the trainer fee said right now let's start the training I know you've got to be kidding me I thought we'd finished and we met this amazing group this group of women that we then used to go for breakfast and coffee and it was six months until we'd even we decided to go out for dinner one night and walked into this restaurant I said oh that's what you look like in clothes so I went oh because we'd only ever seen each other in gym gear yeah and when I moved I moved to the far south coast about five years ago and you I've met the most amazing women again recreated this running group we go out two three times a week everybody's had their life's challenges and everybody's so supportive and I've never met I find that community is means it's very very meaningful to me recently we've been my husband's been through some major health challenges and I was dealing with that in the hospital and every night I came home from hospital there was a cake or a bowl of soup or a loaf of bread or and they're all from the running community everybody's just rallied and you know oh that's that's that's the real sense of community that I feel we've lost and I've always find it in my running groups they're just amazing they will go to any lengths to look out for each other talk about the importance of moving more I cannot believe that people don't move there's this inspirational lady locally called Wendy she's into her 80s and when I first met her when I moved down she said if you don't keep moving you'll die and she's right it's just simple as that I can't say I can't soften it anymore but moving for me has got me through menopause it's helped me deal with all of those hot flushes I didn't really struggle through menopause you know because I was moving because I was moving a lot I slept well because I was moving a lot I didn't drink so much alcohol I ate slightly better you know because I'm when you're training for a big event it takes 16 to 20 weeks you're not going to you know ruin it by eating rubbish so you begin to eat better and all again those those little circles that ripple effect of running has enabled me to be more active more energy and I think take better care of myself and in that role model that to other people yeah and how that that extends to other people oh well my big and my biggest my biggest fabulous story is as I was learning going out running early on Saturday mornings my son and daughter were still living at home and they'd obviously seen this but I'd leave before they were up and I'd probably be back before they were up they were teenagers but I didn't know the effect that that they were that they were looking at this and I was about to run my 10th marathon in New York in 2017 or contemplating my 10th and my daughter rang me she was working overseas she said mum I've got two charity places for New York do you want to do it with me I'm like yes so we we entered New York and we raised a huge amount of money for world vision at that time and my son who was living in London by then I said oh well if you're doing it then I'll do it too and so the role modeling and running New York in 2017 with both of my children running a marathon with both of you have grown children I never dreamed it was just never even in my visionary to think that that could happen and in chapter 10 of the book I asked them some questions and they were so great at the way they replied they're printed verbatim in what they said and my daughter did it for some incredible altruistic reasons and still works in that area and my son said oh I did it because I forgot to buy mum a birthday present so the perspectives but I know what it takes I know that they had to give up three to four months of their lives to train for that they had to get to New York and they had to run 42.195 kilometers and I know now that that's given them an experience that they'll they'll never forget and I'll never forget it it was very dear to my heart yeah absolutely um talk to talk to me about the book and you know but what it teaches people and then you know what you're able to sort of help people it's you know motivating women to move through menopause literally and figuratively yeah I've been very very lucky I've been an entrepreneur for the last sort of 25 years I ran a direct selling business a party plan business in the UK and that's what brought me to Australia so woven through the book are all the little life lessons that I learned through running a small home-based business and then running multinational companies so it's not only running focused it talks each chapter is about a different marathon but it shares insights and I hope like lessons I call them that will inspire both men and women of oh if I was facing that challenge here's a you know one of mine and I know we'll talk about later another one is never wait for all the lights to be on green I was taught that very early on in my sales career of the lights are never all on green you just say yes and then you move forward and then there might be a hurdle and then you have to move forward again so the book will inspire people to move more you may running may not be your thing it might be pickle ball it might be badminton powerlifting it doesn't matter it's finding that passion to move and doing something you love because if you don't love it you won't keep doing it and I think that's what comes through in the story mm-hmm what sort of lessons or information are they gonna find at jillianstapleton.com that's the other side of what I do I mean the book was just done in empowering six months of my life that I loved doing and anybody out there thinking about write a book don't wait for all the green lights just write it's amazing it's such a cathartic experience and then that opened up opportunities because I love to share my passion jillianstapleton.com I've worked in events I do I'm seeing I do keynote speakers inspiring other groups of you know audiences to to move more and that's what running marathons and writing the book because then opened the door to that like another career that I never thought I'd have in my 60s nice talk to me about some misconceptions when you're speaking with people about moving through menopause and you know maybe running or planning for marathons what are some misconceptions about you know those things that you are typically educating people about yeah every the one thing people always say to me it's okay for you you you're a runner but what because people now see me as a runner hmm I wasn't I wasn't always a runner I didn't start until I was 47 and I was inspired by my brother who ran the London marathon several years before and I went well if you can do it I can do it but people look at me go well it's okay for you because because of this because of that and and that's just so untrue I it's in order to run a marathon you have to be disciplined and I wasn't always disciplined and I can't say I've always done the best training it might look like that on the outside but you know I have my challenges and you know I do love a glass of wine in the old champagne and you know that's a sacrifice on a Saturday night before you go for a big run on a Sunday and is it easy no it's not easy but then life's not easy and so often oh it's okay for you because you know you're the CEO of a business you know you ran a big business well it took me a lot a lot of a lot of hard work to get there to run those businesses and I think often when you're looking at there and I do it to others I'm sure you're looking at the outside and you think oh it's okay that they've got this that they've got that skill set but you can learn all that if you've got the right aptitude and attitude now with AI and google can learn it but it's that inner discipline and that inner strength that you have to develop and I firmly believe in running if you only ever ran one marathon in your life you know it develops that it's like a piece of elastic it stretches and it will never go back what's your favorite part of a race oh that's a great question my favorite part I would say is 35 Ks I struggle between 25 and 35 so then I know I've only got seven Ks left and I break it all down and I think if I've done it to 35 I can walk to finish so I think the favorite part is that last bit where you know that everything's paid off even if last year I was running Sydney Marathon and my husband's amazing he's at every race he stands on the side of the street and he waves and cheers and at 35 K he's got a video of me last September at Sydney Marathon and say "Mother again I'm never doing this again" it was so hot I was so depleted and I said never again and then Sydney Marathon announced they were trying to be a world major and if you ran it this year there's possibility you're going to get the seventh star I've got six so I went ping I mean oh no and so for me this year getting to 35 Ks and knowing that I've got that seventh star in the bag that's the most exciting but it's everything's to finish line you sort of that comes after that it's that but I think that 35 K is very exciting because you just know then you've done the hardest part mm-hmm what does it feel across the finish line for you oh a real sense of joy and achievement and I always I mean there's a there's a quote in my book of Helen let me find it because it's so this is this is what hold up a copy of your book for those who are watching it so we can see what it looks like and there we go there you go on the front cover nice but I think it's Helen's words and that's why I asked her permission to put in them turns out it's not the distance of a marathon or the time it took the two were simply tools to find that something inside yourself you do not run a marathon to stop feeling or run away from a feeling you run a marathon to feel something and find something inside yourself mm-hmm that's so thoughtful and that's that you find something every time you cross the line you find something new in yourself that you didn't know you could do mm-hmm absolutely the conversation you have you're with yourself you know every single race you cross that finish line it's exhilarating and then you head into mile one and you're like oh it's just a good idea you know and then depending upon the distance and you're working out your pace and you know do I really want to get there at that time or do I want to get there with my legs having not fallen off you know and did I tie my shoe right and it's you know we all go through that you know those internal conversations as we're running along and doing what we do and you know you and I have talked many times and just sort of like the time doesn't matter you know the finish line will be there and it's the joy and the journey and it's the the running and the race and the camaraderie and you know the time that we spend and knowing you know that if you put in some hard work they will be pay off they'll be paid but they'll be pay off yeah and I think you meet so many amazing um and again people say it's right for you but I meet people on the course I'm never going to meet them again I'm never seeing god I have a chat with them for maybe you know a few kilometers you have a chat within you hear their story and you go wow how did they do that and it humbles me that many many people go through way more than I've ever had to go through and I think Boston was you know was difficult but the challenges people have in their lives and overcome by running and that mental chatter I think is a really good thing for me that's what running has given me is dealing with that mental chatter of you know do I go out with a problem in my mind or all this chatter going on and by the time I finished that marathon it's all gone it's all gone yeah you just deal with it all you've solved all the world's problems in 26.2 for those of us yeah yeah I used to come up with a few as well my husband hates it because I come home and I've gone to a long run and I took about it in the book once I went for a big run I said oh I think we need to sell the house and he looked at me said where did that come I said well I've just done 20 days and I think blah blah blah and within two weeks the house is on the market wow whoa he hates it sometimes but he's used to it after 40 years yeah I think the running community pulls you together with people you never would have passed you never would have crossed and I remember you know because I'm based out of Austin in the Boston marathon and you know I have running friends in the running community and when they're coming into town you know I positioned myself at mile 24 with my sign and you know I'm the person that has a list in the time and when people should be coming through and I'm holding you know you know oranges and Gatorade you know I'm the supply or I have this or whatever it is and I you know some people hold up a sign and be like Beth you know so when Beth comes running by she knows it like there I have so many on my list that I have a sign I hold it up with two arrows pointing down that says red is here so everyone just looks for that and people are just like what is just don't worry about it you don't need it if you don't know you know and it's just this massive sign on a pole that goes up you know 15 feet in the air and it just says red is here and I am just you know a beacon for some people is there heading down you know towards the finish line so I've had friends from all over the world you know Manitoba I wouldn't have known where Manitoba was had I not had a running friend coming in from Manitoba you know and from everywhere so it's and they literally sometimes they stop and sometimes they don't need you and they just run by and it's the biggest connection you can make with someone it's like I was here for you and you knew that and I know I helped you get to this point and now go get your finish line you know and I I've got to share a quick story there because that's so so true my my amazing husband who's had his health challenges this year has been at the sidelines and it's always difficult in a big race you would know to see people because they've just come past so my beautiful niece Stephanie when we went to Paris they heard her and her dad came out from London and she made for me the banner out of an old piece of cotton material in and she just used a pink highlighter and it said you know Helen and Jill keep the pace every time I've run a marathon since we've added in the names of the people and so this banner now is very tatty it's very tired it's a piece of old cloth but my husband Chad stands at every race and holds it up and so I can spot it from a kilometer away he can't see me and that gives me such joy to see that banner and know he's there and he did it in Tokyo in the pouring of rain he did it last year in Sydney in the heat this year he'll be back again and I'm literally gonna have to retire the banner soon because there is no room for um there's room for one more Ren is running it with me this year in Sydney and she's not done Sydney so I've got to find a room space for her name but this banner is iconic everybody in our community goes oh did I end last year we went to Cameron Lisa made the banner oh I made the banner and it's it's it's just a piece of cloth and it's sometimes it's the little thing so it's so much more though it's so much more it's a journey it's a story it's amazing and I will frame the banner one day I'll put a frame around it when I stop running and that's that frame will be my story yeah so Jill what is your monty what is sort of you know monty is our mascot here at Belmont City Press our little owl and he's sort of the beacon of all things inspirational or lessons learned so what is a monty that you can share with our audience that's for those watching they will see that I do have a gold chain around my neck and everybody knows who knows me knows this is my monty many many years ago a great sales director of mine and I was overwhelmed by building this business and looking at everybody else going what they just amazing and she said to me Jill stop right there how do you eat an elephant and she said one bite at a time and I several years later was caught in a rainstorm on a trip and ran into the jewelry store and this chain of elephants was in the jewelry store I've owned this necklace probably now 25 or 30 years I've run every marathon with it every time I face a challenge you'll find me just thinking okay I can do this how do I face this how do I overcome Boston how do I overcome this and it's one step at a time one bite at a time break it down what it implies to every area of life so everybody knows I'm just how do you eat an elephant one bite at a time how do you run a marathon one step at a time one step at a time wise wise world words and lots of very wise too yes exactly all right let's do our rapid fire session so I'm going to give you some options okay I have some running ones mixed in because I figured okay those would be easy enough to answer um and just tell me what you think is is um it comes to first mind we'll kind of get to know the jillion behind the jillion are you ready okay yeah ready um trail or road running trail okay all right braver than me rest day or a massage rest day all right are you iPhone or android iPhone okay um do you prefer vintage or new new new not bad new is that bad should say vintage if you um 5k or 10k what you prefer distance 10 10 what do you run in what shoes new balance new balance okay all right so you like a wide toe box huh yeah okay all right um and um as far as I'm assuming if you're apple you have an apple watch and not a garment I have a garment you have a garment I love my garment it's like I love it I absolutely love it so all right now we know now we know um all right so we have our guests to guess question as you know the guest who was on before you left a question behind for you to answer during our show are you ready for your guest to guess question oh I'm never said I'm ready all right you're ready and it is what is advice you would give to someone starting out in your field and you can interpret that as the business or even in running wherever you feel yeah it's back to my my mantra is one side at a time break it down don't look at the whole thing look at the beginning so for running it's get a decent pair of shoes open the front door and move um I was you know with people I talked to about running is just walk to the first lamppost then run to the next one and then walk to the next one don't try and run the whole thing or download couch couch to 5k the app couch to 5k just start small don't wait for all the lights to be hungry just take one step and it's the same in business and you know when you're overwhelmed by a big project just break it down get the first task done first and the minute you take action and do one little thing it moves you to the next one just move the chains as they say in american football just move the chains yeah um all right so your website again is jillianstapleton.com yes and there they're going to find is there a link to your book there we'll put a link in the show notes as well but no just jump on amazon.com and google running in circles jillian stapleton that's far easier saves people going through different search engines yeah and i will i'll put a link to it in the show notes as well what is your what is your final thought for our listeners move move i've often so many and particularly women in the 50s get stagnant whether it's in their professional life or at home or running or moving it's moved just move forward because inertia will be the death of us so i think it's just moving and making taking action just you know you'll be contemplated everybody listening now go i should be doing something about this the little voice in the head of saying yeah i should be you know looking for a new job or i should be asking for a promotion i should be doing don't wait for all the lights to be on green take the first step work out what that first step is in work or home or physical activity and just do that one step because then that one step will lead to two mm-hmm and the book again is running in circles by jillian stapleton easy to find on amazon and i can't imagine it's not going to be a fabulous read and everyone who runs or wants to run or knows somebody that runs should run to amazon and grab it oh i think so thank you red all right my friend we'll have to do this again some time and hopefully when you make next time you make it to boston look me up and i'll stand at mile 24 with my sign that says red is here oh that gives me a new challenge absolutely fabulous i appreciate your time your story your insights your time it's extremely valuable and i hope i honored that here today thank you red you most certainly do what a pleasure to talk to you thank you to our listeners if you have a story to share visit tellusastorypodcast.com if you're an aspiring author a seasoned business owner or looking to elevate your personal brand visit 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