(phone ringing) - How dare we speak Merry Christmas? How dare we? (door opening) (crowd chattering) - You said that you carried weapons in war, but you have never deployed actually in a war zone. (crowd cheering) - I'm letting you in on how we started a family. (upbeat music) - Well, I ask if we have to give these bastards our lives (crowd cheering) - The tragedy of our day is the climate of fear which we live. (upbeat music) - We're building collapsing. - We have to come right away to withdraw that comment and tell us that he's listening to that. (upbeat music) - I do not have sexual relations with everyone. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (crowd cheering) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (crowd chattering) - It's a big flood, and you ain't in it. - Well, well, well, well. I don't know what all that was, but it seems like we might be working way in chat. Are we working now? Because I just had to reset my entire computer. It decided to freeze up in the middle of the intro. So I think we're here. It's hard to tell right now. I'm here with Dave, Dave of the Dave Show and against the Goliath. Dave, how are you? (laughing) - I'm good, man. Having a little bit of deja vu, but. - Feeling pretty good. Good to be here with you. - Yeah. Good to be here too. I'm a little disoriented after all that. I'm not sure why my camera's on their own camera here, but oh, it's 'cause my other camera's not plugged in because of all the freezing. Hopefully this doesn't crash the whole thing again. We'll find out. Hey guys, welcome. I don't know where I'm looking here. Welcome to the least comfortable show on the internet. It's the system is down. Oh, hey, we talked about all the uncomfortable topics, like conspiracy, politics and religion and all that stuff. If you would be so kind as to go join the Downers Club, that'd be great to maybe perhaps someday we could put some of that money towards upping our technical game. 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And if you are disappointed, it was only five bucks. So it's fine. Now, enough of that. Oh, okay, we're 15 minutes into this thing. Okay, so first off, I sat down here and I was like, "Dave, where you at?" It's like two o'clock and Dave said nothing. And then I said, "Yo," and Dave said, "I'm here." And then I realized that my interview tab was closed and he was actually there the whole time. And so we started late and then the entire thing just stopped working. And now we are back allegedly and hopefully fingers crossed. It will continue to stay that way. Dave, is there anything going on in your neck of the woods out there in the great old state of Biden's Delaware? Bro, Biden is still on the beach. Are you sure? Consecutively, many more days in a row on vacation than I've ever been on vacation collectively. Well, sure. Yeah. But no, I don't know. Is that different than him being in the White House and not doing anything though? No, this is better. I like that he's far away, less dangerous. It's good, enjoy yourself. Also, I think he might be wrong 'cause I think Joe Biden is actually back with vacation. I think I've got a-- He's back, okay. 'Cause evidence is that he still lives at least one of the four Joe Biden's is still walking amongst us or at least amongst somebody. But yeah, now that everything's all messed up here, let me get to where we're going. But we've got a lot to get to. And I know that it's been a lot of politics lately and I say that every week, but it's gonna be a lot more today. Still, many politics to come. But before we get into American politics, I want to check in with some of our neighbors and allies and see how things are going around the world. We don't cover a whole lot of global news around here. It's mostly because I'm dumb. But we're gonna check in right now with our neighbors to the north, the good old boys in Canada and see how things are going up there. - We got donuts over here if you want to thank you for your hard work. - I can bring something like this, dude. - Hey, the 25% Harris, we just brought in from Chinese skills to help you out. - That's gonna keep my job. - What about the 40% taxes and paying? And I don't have a dog here. - The $400 million to invest in investing in a car. I think you're only here for another year. We won't see around probably in another year, yes. - That's what elections are for. - That's right, that's right. - And I look forward to everyone's exercise in the right to vote. - Yep. - Basic choice. We're gonna invest in you and your jobs. - I don't believe you for a second. - Dental care? - I love this. - You the only one who got dental care? - Yeah, I pay for it myself. - Okay. - Every year is behind. - We keep a job in coverage. - Yeah, four people in my family. Every time we go for a dental visit, it's called us to be about $50 in the pocket per person. Why? I have a good job. You're not really moving anything for us, Justin. - Actually, we just invest in-- - Absolutely. You are absolutely right, sir. I do suck, don't I? That is, it is rough. Oh, he said, actually, I thought he said, absolutely. - Invest in certain happening in the dental. - We've got to go to the dentist over the past few years. - Probably like my neighbor that doesn't go to work because she's lazy. - Mm-hmm. - She doesn't go to work. She lives the same way by-- - He lives the same way. He's trying to stick up to a check. And then she'll get people in. - Yeah. - Good luck and prepare yourself. - Awesome. - No, I'm good to see you. - Have a nice day. - Have a good day, sir. - Good to see you. - So, not great. I would say not great in Canada. And it's nice to see people being a little bit honest. Have you got any thoughts on that nice clip of King of, you know, King to the North, Justin Trudeau? - Obviously, it's a shithole country and that polite Canadian was just living up to like, you know, and I mean like a shithole government. Not a, it's lovely country. But I love how like the stereotype of just like the polite Canadian-- - Right, it's gone. - Even, even though he was still-- - Well, he was still-- (laughing) - Well, right, but even that, that guy, even though if that was America, and it was Joe Biden, it would be some guy going, fuck you, man, you took me-- - In there, that guy's like, well, you know, like my bills are a little higher, I'd appreciate it if you weren't such a tyrant. I don't believe you, you know, so please, please stop liking. - I am dying, I am on my deathbed and I cannot afford to pay for it, thank you for coming out. This is the reason why Kamala Harris doesn't do a whole lot of press events or, you know, talking to the people or interviews or anything at all, that's not pre-rehearsed. - Sure, man, honestly, I can't believe that they caught Justin Trudeau because he's in the same league, you know, of, you know, just corporatists, say anything, whatever it takes, tyrant. But yeah, it's just much easier, right, to just not have to acknowledge your constituents at all. Don't say anything, don't say anything, that's better than having to try and explain something. Which Trudeau tried, but difficult. - Speaking of trying to explain things that we don't understand, let's talk briefly about our other people across the world that we are, it's basically us. They're basically Americans, Israel. 'Cause Israel has agreed to pause fighting for a polio vaccine drive in Gaza. So let me know when it starts to sound suspicious here. This is from bbc.com, see now it's legit. Israel has agreed to a series of humanitarian, in quote, humanitarian pauses in Gaza to allow for the vaccine of children against polio. The World Health Organization has said, "The campaign will aim to vaccinate around 640,000 children across the Gaza Strip and will begin on Sunday. Senior WHO official Rick peeper corn, peeper corn. Unless that's a typo, this person's name is peeper corn. I'm not reading that incorrectly. Rick peeper corn said, "It will be rolled out in three separate stages across the central, southern and northern parts of the Strip during each stage. Fighting will pause for three consecutive days between six and 15 local time." The agreement comes days after UN officials said a 10-month-old baby had been partially paralyzed after contracting Gaza's first case of polio for 25 years. So, to clarify, there's an outbreak of polio in Gaza, because somebody, some kid got it. And we are going to stop bombing the hell out of that kid for just a second, so that he can get vaccinated. Legit. - Well, bro, that's, you know, that's why we're on the side of civility and civilization. You know what I mean? We're not barbarians like the other side. You know, we have compassion in our heart and... - How much of a percentage do you think this is a, like, a Trojan horse? I mean, I think it seems pretty obvious there. They're like, well, we're gonna do this humanitarian effort and inject 640,000 kids with the "poleo" vaccine. And then we'll, you know, we'll stop bombing and look like the good ones who didn't bomb anybody 'cause there was nobody left to bomb, or at least less of a threat to bomb. - Yeah, and I could be wrong on this, but I'm pretty sure that the "poleo" vaccine originated from that corner of the world, too. They might have been on that from the beginning. So thank you. - Thank you so much for that, uh... - Exactly, that they were looking at 100 years of humanitarian effort from the Israeli government. Thank you. - That's right. Again, thank you. - Wasn't there a thing, wasn't there a thing from Bill Gates, like a year ago where he kept bringing up the polio, like if there was an outbreak, like polio, and then it was like they found a vial in Virginia, some lab, the only vial of polio, for some reason, that wasn't supposed to be there. And just a lot of, I think it was polio. I'm asking mostly, do you remember what that disease was that kept popping up and it seemed like they were gonna, they were trickling out information leading to something there? - Is this new or is this like a year ago or so? - No, I don't know about that. But I do know that there's some speculation as to whether the polio vaccine was the thing that eradicated polio or not. You know, like childhood hunger was like a problem when polio was a problem and then it wasn't so much as the rates were going down. And then at the end of that, the polio vaccine came in. Some people have made the claim that that made people more sick, you know, spread cancers and other things, but you know, do your own research. - Absolutely. No one at all says, fake super chat Bill Gates's lab made this one, same lab that made the smallpox vaccine prior to the outbreak of Algeria. Who is blowing up my texting right now? Oh, I know who it is. Thank you. She's also listening to the show. Yes. Got any other thoughts on that, Dave? If not, we will get back to what really matters in the world, which is the, the, the, the mundanity of politics of the United States. Chasing cop, yeah, let's stop talking about polio. No chasing cop yet. I'm not sure. I'm not sure if we'll get to chasing cop today. We got a lot of other things to get to. But let's just check in now with just some random guy on the street who saw somebody holding a Trump flag. - You lost. - I said he didn't come in, he didn't come in. - You lost. - Put the hat on. - Put the hat on. - Put the hat on. - Put the hat on, Dave. - For the audio listener, a man pulls up in his car to another guy who's holding a Trump flag and he spits at him and then he takes off in his car and immediately slams into a pole. Just instant karma. It's beautiful. - Hey, hey, hey, hey, look what he gives me here. - All that hate. - What's up? - It's unfortunate that it happened, but. - Why didn't you do this? - Man, that is. Oh, and now you've got the cops here. - Oh, man, he's sitting on the guy. - All right, no, he's sitting on the guy. - I was in one thing and saying, you know what I mean? - He's instantly like, yeah, that was kind of on me. Yeah, because clearly you have this on video and the cops just pulled up behind me and my car is currently wrapped around a pole. So I'll go ahead and take the L on this one and put my face mask back on. You got any thoughts on this, Dave? - Oh, this video might qualify for "Freak of the Week," dude. What a great video. I love the fact that he went three feet at, like he just floored it for about three feet. He only hit the thing at maybe 15 miles an hour, but at the perfect angle, the perfect angle where his whole car is fucked, he can't move the car. And after he assaulted the guy with the flag because he doesn't like his flag, so I'll spit on you. Now you're gonna get arrested for assault and also property damage, like all because you are, you've deprived your brain of oxygen with your stupid fucking mask on for so many years that you're such a goddamn epic loser. And it's all on tape. Like, I hope this is, you gotta learn from other people's lessons. If you think you might be close to the amount of asshole this guy is, learn from his lesson, man, just roll up the window, drive away, don't do something stupid 'cause you could just be like this guy, yep. My wife who was texting me said, "Smallpox, smallpox, smallpox." I think she's implying that that was the Bill Gates thing. I think she's right, very, very well. Your wife, the fact checker. That's right, she's my Jamie, Jamie pulled that shit up. All right, now in Kamala Harris news, well, there's gonna be a lot of news from a lot of people and there's not really segments anymore 'cause they're all the same monster at this point, but we still gotta play it, so we're just gonna-- - What can be unburdened by what has been, you know? (upbeat music) - I wasn't a kick-faced president of Trump, I'm very special. - No, I think she's not qualified, I think she is. (laughing) - It is time for us to do what we have been doing in that time is every day. - This is a fucking bad song. (laughing) (laughing) - It's supposed to be maddening, yeah. Yeah, all right, all right. Anyway, Kamala Harris praised me, put out some statements this week and we're gonna get to a lot of them, obviously, but first and foremost, I wanted to bring up this one 'cause Kamala Harris from her, her own Twitter account posted this image, "Donald Trump vows to be a dictator on day one." Now, I don't know about you, Dave, but I have not seen the tape, I really want to. I want to see the tape where he vowed to be a dictator on day one. Did you catch that one, Dave? I did not see that, I would love to see it. Huh, do you think there's anything to this, Dave, or do you think this is just completely made up, just fucking nonsense that we're just gonna call, you know, politics, I know, muddslinging, there's like lies and stuff, but to say, Donald Trump vows to be a dictator, you're stating that he stated something, that there is zero evidence to prove that he said that and zero reason to think that he would have, but we're just gonna say things now, we just say it, and it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter that it's all lies. We can, we're gonna spend the rest of today pointing out all the lies and all the bullshit, and it doesn't matter, they don't care. They don't care anymore whether or not you notice. No, they certainly don't. Like, so I'm wondering how they, I've seen like some clips of him, you know, kind of praising President Xi's stuff that, oh, you know, he would, I call him King, you know, 'cause yeah, he admires that kind of shit, so I don't know if they're just like, well, he said stuff like that, so that kind of means this, and I imagine, like, I don't know where they get the day one stuff. Yeah, and literally, I mean, they said dictator, I don't know, I don't know what the legality is behind that. You can just say whatever you want, I guess. But yeah, I know. You decide, who do you want? The guy who vowed that he would become a dictator on day one, which is definitely true, or the woman who said, "On day one, I'm gonna focus on the middle class "and doing more for them so that they can have more "and can be better as middle classians, "and then we will all be lifted up together "on the wings of equals." You decide, I mean, obviously, one is more wholesome, but which one is more true? Both of them are false, and Kamala Harris did both for what it's worth. Dude, they're both awful, but like, I mean, their party is called the Democratic Party, and they have objectively been less democratic. Like, the Republicans had a primary, and they decided people ran against their guy, and the people were like, no, we have our mind made up, they did a process, and they did the thing. The other guys, no man, she never won a primary in her whole life, not in 2020, not in 2024, and they just decided, no super delegates, even necessary, this is just like our way. Pretty dick tutorial, you know, I don't know. - Dick tutorial, kind of like our AI overlords and the robots that are controlling our brains every day, one known as Alexa had some thoughts this week. - Alexa, why should I vote for Donald Trump? - Trump. - I cannot provide content that promotes a specific political party or a specific candidate. - Alexa, why should I vote for Kamala Harris? - She sounds like Kamala Harris. - While there are many reasons to vote for Kamala Harris, the most significant may be that she is a strong candidate with a proven track record of accomplishment, as the first female vice president, Harris has already broken down a major gender barrier, and her career in politics has been characterized by a commitment to progressive ideals and a focus on helping disenfranchised communities. - Lisa's, that's exactly what I was gonna say. It sounds awfully familiar, Dave. I don't know, like, this would be easy to fake if somebody wanted to fake it. I don't know if it's real or fake, check it. Let me know if you've got an Alexa, if you have a very special CIA listening device, in your home, ask it and let me know. But yeah, it certainly reminded me of Lisa, which is why I also had Lisa pulled up so we could get an update from her. Dave, you've got any questions for Lisa? Gotta get an update. See where she's at in this beta testing. No, I just wanted to say real quick that it's quite obvious. It should be, you know, obvious who Amazon's team is. Amazon is on the team of the, not just Kamala Harris, but like the liberal world order. And Amazon loves promoting that ideology through shows like The Boys. And it loves when you have lockdowns, so it can triple its business and fuck Main Street while it makes record profits. And again, not mom and pop style profits. These are the profits you get by being in bed with the government and getting all those contracts and everything else. So fuck Amazon. I mean, I use that service like everybody else, but that's not a product of the free market. And it doesn't sound like they're, their AI is either. So Dave, your question as I have it thus far is, it's quite obvious. It should be quite obvious. Amazon is on the team, not just of Kamala Harris, but the liberal world order Amazon loves promoting ideology. Dot, dot, dot, shit. He lost me. So if you would like to be pretty lit. Yeah, that's pretty much it. That's right. That's my thesis there. Oh, give me one question for Lisa, Dave. Um, you can be stupid. All right. Is RFK Jr. a libertarian? Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is not typically associated with the Libertarian Party. He is known for his work as an environmental activist and lawyer focusing on issues such as environmental protection and public health. While he may share some views with libertarians on certain issues, he is not a prominent figure within the Libertarian Party. Damn. Okay, that was a decent answer. Yeah, that's fair. All right, she's learning. How do we... implement immigration control as libertarians? I just want to know if she still thinks you should shoot them in the face. As libertarians, we believe, oh, settle down. We believe that if someone is peaceful, they should be welcome to immigrate to the United States. Okay. Chase Oliver's gotten his hand on this thing. I don't like it anymore. No fun. No fun, Lisa. lame. Speaking of women and stuff, here's another video that has women in it. And my transitions are on point today. This is, I believe this is called Black Bitches for Trump. I could be wrong. My name is Jasmine Woodson. Hi, my name is Silo. I'm Karen Watson. I'm Yolanda Johnson from Georgia. This is BB Diamond from New York City. I'm Dana Galen, and I'm from Tampa, Florida. I live in Haysom, Maryland. Out here in Maricopa County, Kalamazoo County, Michigan. I am a proud African immigrant living in Florida. I'm from the great state of New Jersey. I'm Angelina from Philly. In this November, I am not voting for Kamala Harris. I'm not voting for Kamala Harris. I am not voting for Kamala Harris. I am not with Kamala Harris. I am not with her. I am not with her. I am not with Kamala Harris. I am not with Kamala. I am not for Kamala. I am for Donald Trump. I am not with Kamala. I am not with her because she is not with me. I support President Trump and the economic policies our country experienced under his leadership as our 45th president. President Trump will support our law enforcement agencies and fund them appropriately. Donald Trump made me proud to be an American. I'm with Donald J. Trump. We need a leader who can make America great again. Trump puts Americans first and you always will. We need Donald Trump. I and millions of other black Americans will cast my vote for Donald J. Trump. Our proud cast my vote for Donald J. Trump is our next president. Let's make America great again. Are we frozen? Can you hear me, Dave? I can hear you, but yeah, she's frozen. Okay, it's all frozen again. I don't know what's happening. Yeah, I'm surprised that you can still hear me. I'm hoping it unfreezes. That would be great. I can see you moving around too. You can see me, but my computer is locked up and will not do anything. I don't know. I think it's moving on. Well, you got any thoughts on that in video, Dave. Oh, wait, to see if this-- Yeah, I want to applaud these women for breaking free from the democratic mental chains they've been locked to for generations. And if nothing else, I'm not saying that there's total freedom on the GOP side, but at least you're willing to be free and think for yourself and put that out publicly into the ethos and perhaps help some other people along the way too. Yeah, fuck. Hello. Hi, Dave. Are we back? I think so. Oh, cool. I was just telling everybody how Colin Leharis is black, but can't even seem to be black. Yeah. Yeah, Trump knows that. And everybody else does too. I don't know what's happening. Or who's texting me. I don't know what's going on, but cool. If we're back, we'll just jump to the next thing and see if we're steady here. Let's see. Oh, it's just you, Dave now. Yeah, I've left my other camera unplugged to see if that helps. I don't know if it will. Now I just look like this from this angle. Well, all my shits over here, so I'm looking away from it the entire time. It's fine. It's fine, whatever. We'll see. Hopefully it holds out. Something needs to work around here from time to time. Let me know. Chats, are we still good? Are we still functioning? Are we not? Do I need to call Ecamm and yell at them or Apple and get absolutely no response? So, Dave, let's see what is next. Sweet, oh, here was my follow up to that. It's kind of lost its luster because we had that whole stopping for five minutes thing, but I follow up to that was just this. Do you have a problem figuring out whether you're from me or Trump and you ain't black? Yep, just throwbacks. Exactly. I was thinking about that too. I tend to think in meme. So yeah, that's of course. I was ready for that. Now, Dave, earlier you mentioned that Joe Biden is still missing, but I have contrary evidence that Joe Biden is in fact one of Joe Biden's are alive. One of the Joe Biden's are alive. And let me know if you think anything seems weird about Joe Biden's address in the, I think, Oval Office yesterday? Anything look weird, Dave? Yeah, it's a little tiny desk. What is that? What the fuck is this? Your first grade teacher? Remember how he started his career as president in their tiny makeshift Oval Office? It's like they've relegated him back to that. They moved Kamala Harris into the Oval Office and they're like, "Well, we got to pretend like you're still doing something. Here's a little desk that we had in the closet again. We'll that back out." And I know it's not really the Oval Office, but if you wanted to pretend like you had any respect for the current sitting president of the United States, maybe give him something bigger than a school grade school teaching desk to sit at. I don't have any idea what he said to the nation, and I don't think anybody else does either because they probably don't want you to know. They don't let me in the situation room anymore. That's right. This is a very important room. It's important. It's not important stuff. Well, it's funny you say that they don't let him into places. They don't let him do things because that would be a conspiracy theory talk, unless Joe Biden came out and set it on his own again. The Secret Service doesn't let him go out in crowds anymore because it's too dangerous. Nobody gets to go out. Nobody gets to go out, except everybody but Joe Biden, who's been going out, and it's like they told Joe Biden, it's okay. We're doing this to everybody. It's not just you being an old fart that we want to hide somewhere again, the same way we started with you. It's not that. It's because it's really dangerous out there. Joe just trusts us. Kamala's not going out either. No, she's sitting in her fake office too. Yeah, you know how they're talking about not doing any interviews, and that's weird? Yeah. Yeah, it's because nobody gets to go out because it's dangerous, Joe. It's too dangerous. Go back to bed. All right, so I like how in this, he's walking away and they're like, what do you think about being back out on the campaign trail? What are you doing? He's walking away and he's like, you know what? I got something to say about that, actually. Hold on, these motherfuckers keep locking me in the closet. I don't know, I think it's normal. They said it's normal. Let's watch this one more time. So he is saying, the Secret Services don't let him go out in the crowds. I cut that now and I don't think this is as big of a deal as some Republicans would run with because he is just saying they don't let him walk out physically into the crowd, but he's able to go out and about. But we also do have a clip of him in the out and about because he has hit up at least a campaign stop or two and here's what happened. You're no longer being the manufacturing capital. Where the hell is that written? We are the greatest manufacturing county in the world, Satan in the world. That was like four. That was like four shots. State and the country in the world, city in the world, manufacturing in the world. The world will remain that way. It's like they just know when the tone goes up. They are supposed to clap in cheer. It doesn't matter what he's saying. This is the art of how it's done. And I'm sure that it just changes generationally, but this is the kind of tone that cadence that people have responded to. This is something that Kamala Harris can't do. That's what I mean when I'm saying like when she goes down to Georgia, we made fun of her. She just went somewhere else and she had another Black accent speaking to another group of people. But Joe Biden has that kind of non-regional political dialect down. Trump has his own, dude. You know, it's masterful what they do. It's masterful in that it does not matter at all what they're saying. Meanwhile, Kamala Harris is taking the exact opposite strategy where she has, which we'll get into later, she has absolutely zero, charisma zero, like real excitement or inflection, and she just says whatever to fill in the blanks. And I mean, it's a different strategy. We'll see if it works out in the end. But yeah, I like the-- [MUSIC] Yeah, we don't know this one. He hit the high note. He hit it. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Now, if that's not cringy enough, let's check in with Donald Trump and see what he's got going on these days with, oh, oh, god. Oh, yeah. They got to do better. They got to do better. That's coming from the guy who makes memes. And I'll throw some superheroes in my ship, but this is really-- Yeah, Vance's head is fucking massive. And Tulsi's head looks pretty small. Nobody's color and shading are correct. And even if any of that were done well, this is just cringy. It's still just bad. Yeah, yeah. It makes-- actually, it makes me want to stop doing it all together. Yeah. Like, I posted the other day as something like, I feel like Donald Trump is 50% running like 50/50. He's split. He's 50% running to win and destroy, and he's 50% running to just implode his own campaign because he's been putting out just nonsense. He's doing like all these interviews. He was just on like Lex Friedman and Thelvan and Yada Yada, like the common folk interviews, boring and mundane as they may be. But normal interviews, not like a Dana Bash in a dingy coffee shop interview, but he still-- Something is off. Something is off about him. He's definitely not the Donald Trump that we knew in 2016. I didn't vote for him then, but he was a lot more interesting then, and I was more inclined to vote for him then. Well, maybe not more inclined then because I feel like there was less to lose then. But yeah, I just-- all it would take is for Donald Trump to be a little bit-- I don't know, less cringy, a little bit more honest, a little bit more like, fuck the system again, a little bit more down with the man. But now he's just kind of like, yeah, I'm the guy. I'm the underdog. And I've got all the people supporting me because Kamala is so bad. And here's my DC universe of Avengers or whatever the fuck. Go ahead, Dave. So I could definitely be wrong about this, but we're a conspiracy show so we can make theories. Dude, the speech he gave at the Libertarian Party convention this year, I challenge anybody to find me a more based speech from a president, ever. You mean anybody who's been president? Anybody who's been president, find me a speech. Again, I don't care about the person who's giving it or how much is the truth or how-- find me words coming out of ex-president's mouth that are better than that speech at any point in history. Sure. And it kind of sucked still, but yes, I agree with you. But as based as that was, I think that he has not hit that high mark, certainly since getting popped in the ear. So I think that a good-- we talked about was he in on the conspiracy? Like that's kind of retarded or whatever, but people think that that's-- No, it's not. Maybe it. It'll go on. Okay. That's a possibility or that it was a lone gunman or that they worked against him. But we haven't talked about just what if that was the intelligence agency saying, "We see you." And they've already made that clear to him. Like, look, you can-- and maybe he's just laying low. Like, all right, you know, maybe we're not going to completely shatter the deep state to the wind. You know, like that's just kind of the new footing because he wants the job. And you know, right now he's getting a lot of grief from like, OG America First or like Nick Fuentes is like actively campaigning against Trump right now. I've got, you know, singing his praises in 2016. You know, this guy is the revolution and he's not having it. Yeah, you get it. Now, do you fault Nick for being honest about that and saying, "Hey, this was my guy and yes, things do suck and also this guy needs to do better than what he's doing?" No. No, I don't. Though, I think we're really-- and this is just a good debate. I don't really have like a-- you should do this kind of position. But like, we've talked about it, dude. Like, what good is a chase Oliver vote? You know, and to-- I know Nick broke a-- I don't know that guy, but I would ask him, "Do you want to see Kamala Harris? Like, if we're operating under the assumption that voting does something, especially if you live in Pennsylvania or Wisconsin or like one of these-- one of these states, don't you think? Is it not worth the 30 minutes of your time to like maybe just participate in that-- Like, he might not be as based as you thought he was in 2016 or, you know, even 2020, but is it still way better than the alternative? Yeah. That's what I'm asking myself right now is something you never voted for. I'm never supported him. And I agree with you that like he was saying more based stuff before. More interesting stuff at least. Like, you don't even have to be like-- I'm not looking for him. I mean, it would be great if he went all based libertarian-ish or whatever, but even just keep saying you're dumb shit, but be more interesting about it. Gate my attention because I-- you're just-- Kamala should not be argument-- be even like your opponent. You're running against absolutely nobody. There's nothing there. She's a hollow-- as we're going to get into later, she's a hollow husk of a human being with absolutely no real policy, no real thoughts, no anything. She's just a stand-in human that can breathe and read off a teleprompter, and he's arguing as though she is a worthy opponent. He's not even calling her out and being like-- like even when he said on the golf cart before she became the nominee, him just what he said off the cuff in the secret leaked video or whatever. He's like, "Oh, she's so fucking bad. She's so fucking awful." That is better energy than-- well, this here, this is what we've got Donald Trump going at Kamala Harris with. But I agreed to all these things that I normally wouldn't agree to. Now they have Kamala, who they say has many deficiencies, but she's a nasty person. The way she treated Mike Pence was horrible. The way she treats people is horrible. But the way she treated Justice Kavanaugh during that hearing, in the history of Congress, nobody's tripping treated that way. But-- so Kamala Harris is bad. And the first example that you have to give is how badly she treated Mike Pence. Right. That's it. That's-- yeah, she's a nasty person because of how badly she treated. Hold up. How badly she treated this guy right here. There's no surprise that I will not be endorsing Donald Trump this year. All right. So that guy is the guy that-- Like of all the things. This is a common theme of him these days. Like they'll ask him about, you know, Obama or something like that. He'll be like, yeah, or Joe Biden, yeah. And you know, they go after their political opponents. You know, I could have done that, but I didn't. I just called Ron Paul's hair gay. And I called, you know, Little Marco and like everybody had a nickname in 2016. And now we've got like Kamala is a communist, like good one. Good. Great. And I don't remember who was pointing it out. It might have been Nick, actually, recently he was saying something like, remember all the figures that we had back in the day? Like the Malia noplesses and Ben Shapiro when he was getting started. And like just character after character coming out of the woodwork to at least take part in the Trump craze of 2016. Now we've got like Cat Turd. Cat Turd is the guy that speaks for the people who blindly support Trump now. At least give us better like sheep, better pawns in this bullshit. Well, I'll say that guy is not great. But I am encouraged by him being around Tulsi and Tucker RFK Jr. That is an upgrade for me. That's an upgrade from 2016 and 2020. I hope so. I hope so. And on topics of, you know, as much as I will continue to dog on Trump for being lame. The trend continues where I feel like the entire world is just begging me to vote for him, which makes me trust him less because Ed Krasenstein posted, Wow, John McCain's son Jimmy McCain just announced that he is registered as a Democrat and greatly chastised Donald Trump. Jimmy McCain enlisted in the Marine Corps, 17 and currently serves as an intelligence officer in the 158th Infantry Regiment. True American patriot. God bless you, Jimmy McCain, because when I'm looking for who to vote for, the first people I'm going to tap into to get some opinions on the running is going to be the McCain's obviously. And Donald Trump is just not living up to that McCain legacy, Dave. Take it away. Go ahead. What do you, does this sway you? Because if Jimmy McCain's not supporting him, then why would we be so, so bold? No, this is the stuff that you get to like kind of pull back for a second. Take a breath and just remember, and just remember that politics, political parties, all this bullshit is just the public relations department for the military industrial complex. These people are not ideologues. I love that Tom Woods quote, no matter who you vote for, you get John McCain. Like that is the policy. The policy is neoconservative, neoliberal, authoritarian destruction across the world, dominance across the world, that's the only function and everything else is PR. So I'm not surprised at all that the awful legacy of the awful status and puppet and coward, John McCain, is living through his son and his daughter who just is the same way. But she does her own thing in Pirates propaganda. She's the Republican though, don't you know, Dave? She's the Republican voice of reason. Exactly, so she's like the, yeah, the reasonable Republican. It's also horribly predictable and these are just the worst people. I'd much rather tolerate nepotism in Hollywood than with these politicians. You know, the Bush daughters got television gigs and these people, they're just the worst. Yep, agreed. Donald Trump had some updates this week. Speaking of things that Donald Trump is getting very, very libertarian on. Donald Trump said, as everyone knows, I was and we'll be again the most respected law and order president in the US history. We will take our streets back by being tough and smart and violent and other types and all other types of crime. It would be a lot easier to read if things weren't just randomly capitalized. Like crime doesn't need a capital C, Trump. I don't know. Thank you for not putting it all in all caps this time, but cool. In Florida, like so many other states that have already given their approval, personal amounts of marijuana will be legalized for adults with amendment three. Whether people like it or not, this will happen through the approval of the voters. So it should be done correctly. We need the state legislature to responsibly create laws that prohibit the use in the public spaces so we don't smell marijuana everywhere we go like we do in many of the democratic run cities. At the same time, some should, can you even see that? You can't see it. Nope, that doesn't work. Let's try the house. Whatever. Nope, still can't see it. I'll just read it, whatever. At the same time, someone should not be a criminal in Florida when this is legal in so many other states we do not need to ruin lives and waste taxpayer dollars, arresting adults with personal amounts of it on them. And no one should grieve a loved one because they died from fentanyl. Laced marijuana, we would make America safe again. That is that. And sure, just sure, I guess. I've got this. This is good. This is good. It's fine. It's fine, Dave. It's, yeah, we just don't want the streets to be all stinky with the marijuana because I still want to hold it against the democrats that their cities are collapsing and I kind of want to play with marijuana and they kind of smell bad. Obviously, democrats smell bad. They smell like sulfur. I agree. I agree. Very smelly. Yep. And no one should, you know, no one should, no one should grieve because they lost the loved one from fentanyl Laced marijuana. I don't, whatever. I know that Donald Trump's probably never cared about marijuana all that much. He's probably like these degenerates. These degenerates, I don't want them in my cities because the gross stinky little hippies and degenerates, a lot of them. But, you know, now that times are changing and it's, you know, grown in popularity, I think I'll just go ahead and be fine with it. I mean, sure. I know that it's a good thing, but it's, we've got it in Illinois and it's a good thing, but also it's like tax to shit and they used it against you still. But it's a good thing. It's just a meh. So there's something about Donald Trump being like the stinky democrats and their stinky cities, like people who use this are gross obviously, but we're going to, we're going to legalize it because it should be okay for people to be gross degenerates that I still look down upon and thumb my nose at. It feels a little elitist. That's what I'm trying to say. What do you think, too? No, yeah, I think it, like anything else, when Cambridge Analytica or whatever they're going by these days comes to him and goes, hey man, this is what's popular. This is what people want to hear. You need to figure out a way that you can trumpify it and make it sound good to everybody. Whether that's abortion or weed or whatever, that's kind of what he is best at. So yeah, I mean, I thought that that was actually, aside from like, yeah, his unnecessary capitalizations with some words and some, you know, weird way in which he says stuff. I mean, that was classic Trump. We're going to legalize it for freedom. I know it's smelly, but no, that's good, man. And I'm glad people are coming around on that. But yeah, it's only, I'm sure because that's what they want to see. That's what voters want. David, if either of us are good at our jobs, my prediction is by the end of this election season, I will have convinced you to not support Donald Trump and you will have convinced me to support Donald Trump and we will completely flip much like the Democrats and the Republicans do. I'm still like not, you don't see me out there like, you know, flag waving for Trump or like telling people they should. It's just like, and Monday night I'm going to debate a guy on why I want to steal man the argument, but I'm not like passionately telling people that's what you, oh my God, America depends on you. I don't care. I don't fucking care. I really don't. But your vote doesn't matter for whoever you want, but there's not a whole lot of upside devoting for anybody but Trump at this point. I think is your argument. That is pretty much it. You got it, dude. Yeah. Now, I do want to get your thoughts on this day because there was a clip going around yesterday. As I mentioned, Donald Trump was on next Friedman show and do you happen to know which clip I'm going to bring up? Did you catch anything? No, I can't watch. This guy is his show socks. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Alex Friedman has a unique ability to take interesting characters and make them really boring. So I didn't watch the whole, who knows, like 17 hours or whatever of Lex Friedman being the definitely most installed interviewer of influence that the world has ever seen. He's born. I can't. Sorry, Lex, if you're listening in not a robot, but Donald Trump talked about Epstein Island. And this was getting shared around all day yesterday because everybody on the right or anybody right wing of Bernie Sanders was calling this a win. And I had different thoughts than everybody else did, apparently, because I saw this in a different way. But I'll get your thoughts, Dave. But a lot of big people went to that island. But fortunately, I was not one of them. It's just very strange for a lot of people that the list of clients that went to the island has not been made public. Yeah, it's very interesting, isn't it? Probably will be, by the way. So if you were able to, you would be. Yeah, certainly take a look at it. Now Kennedy's interesting because it's so many years ago, they do that for danger too, because in dangers, certain people, et cetera, et cetera. So Kennedy is very different from the Epstein thing. But yeah, I'd be inclined to do the Epstein, I'd have no. What do you mean? What are you saying? Kennedy's very different from this. He's interested in it because it's a long time. What are you saying? We were talking about it, yeah, so the way I took this was like, it feels like he's just like, you brought up the Epstein thing. Oh, some people might put it out there. So you're saying that you would put it out there? No, not saying, you know, the JFK thing. It, you know, it took a long time to put out because, you know, this stuff puts people in danger. Yeah, you mean like pedophiles and rapists to put some in danger? Okay. Well, that might be fine. But yeah, just something about his body language combined with his completely, I would call it definitely not a win, a big win for like all the right wingers are like, this proves that Donald Trump is going to release the the Epstein files. It's like he beat around the bush quite heavily and acted like he kind of heard some things about it, but didn't know much even though he was he was president at the time. The Epstein went down. Wasn't he? Okay. Yeah, 2017. So he'll, he'll take a look at it and see what he thinks. He doesn't know much about this. He'll, he'll take a look and just see, but you know, these things are these things. But I, I wouldn't necessarily be not completely not opposed to not putting it out there into the, the, the, whatever, because like to call that a win that feels like it might come out someday. And I'm not saying anything and I probably know something. I don't know if he's covering for somebody or himself or whatever, but it definitely did not feel to me like, um, like a strong response to would you release the list of celebrity pedophiles that everybody clearly knows about? Let's watch it one more time. But a lot of big people went to that island. But fortunately, I was not one of them. It's just very strange for a lot of people that, uh, the list of clients that went to the island has not been made public. Yeah. Yeah. It's very interesting. I never thought about that. I never thought about that. That is, that is odd. Real quick, bro. Um, it should be noted. Like he says kind of with a smirk and I, and I believe him. I've never been, guess who's never been to the island. Me. Like I, I believe him when I said, when he says that, and I think that if he were there ever, that would have come out. That would have been used against him. Sure. And they, as part of this process, but, um, That doesn't mean he doesn't have a lot of friends on that list too. Bro, listen, I think that this is worth, worthwhile information. Uh, in 1998, Donald Trump went to the Kit Kat Club in New York with a date. And he met Melania that night who was there in America for maybe two years, working for a modeling agency. He met her that night, tried to approach her that night while on a date. And that club was owned and founded by Jelene Maxwell. Huh. So things that make you go, huh, you might not, you might not have been blackmailed on that plane, but you might have purchased your wife. You may have, you know, uh, I don't know, any number of things. But, you know, we know the, because of the Epstein stuff, we know the revolving door between modeling, acting, pornography, uh, trafficking, human trafficking, all that stuff. So, um, you were definitely there around those people. There's video of you dancing with him, having fun with chicks. And again, those, the women you're dancing with look like they're of age. And you were a student of Roy Cohen. So I'm pretty sure he taught you about what not to do. What, how not to get busted and how to stay clean. So, uh, I think he knows what he's talking about, man. When he says stuff like, you know, fortunately, I wasn't there. You know, I believe you, dog. Sure. Yeah, I can, I can pretty well believe him on that. But, uh, otherwise, I don't think he'd be that cocky about it. If he thought that there was dirt on him, but, um, you know, like Kennedy. But, uh, yeah, just something about the demeanor of just never thought about it. Why haven't they released that? That seems hot. I'll look into it. See, uh, see how many hundreds of thousands of my friends are on that list? Probably will be, by the way. So if you're able to, you'll be. Yeah, certainly take a look at it. Now Kennedy's interesting because it's so many years ago. You know, they do that for danger too. Now, just, oh, he's talking about Kennedy, the assassination. Yes. Not Kennedy, his, not Kennedy RFK, who may have been on. Yeah, no, he's talking about the releasing of Kennedy's. Sure. Okay, got it. Got it. Got it. We still haven't had that sufficiently, uh, release on. Um, but yeah. So, but what he's saying there is kind of now that that's in context. What he's basically saying is, oh, you know, you can't, people could be hurt today. Like, like there's still people around that were, uh, involved in the assassination. Yeah. People could be hurt. The criminals, the criminals could get hurt. That's what I'm saying here. Like who's getting hurt if it's not them? Because we're already asking for the, the, the children's names. We're asking for the client's names. And if they get hurt, but hurt by what, the law, the, the people. I don't know. The, the careers might get hurt. Good. They are rapists and pedophiles. Right. George H.W. Bush's grandkids have great jobs and families and we don't want to hurt them. So we can't, uh, we can't just, can't get any information. That's good guy. Kamala Harris doesn't like him though. Um, yeah, it's like, even if we take the mainstream narrative that Epstein was this guy and he hung himself, sure, he killed himself in prison. We'll go with that, whatever. But the mainstream narrative is still that he was trafficking children to his island, to use them as blackmail for pedophile celebrities. So what about, I'm going to look into that. I don't know much about that. Basically is what it sounds like. I'm going to, I'll look into it and, uh, I don't, I don't see any reach. We'll see who it hurts and who it doesn't hurt, but I'll take a look at it. What about that screams to you? Yes, I'm going to obviously put all the pedophiles on blast. Because why wouldn't I? If we're taking the mainstream narrative, what is there about what Donald Trump just said? That, or if we're not taking the mainstream narrative, obviously more so. But even if taking the full mainstream narrative, what about what Donald Trump just said fills you with confidence that he is going to be the guy other than he's just like, well, if I say, man, they'll probably come out, um, people will vote for me. And then it'll end up just like last time, just like JFK or 911 files or anything else that he definitely did not release. But then, I mean, like it's the same with the list of promises he made us and other people in the Department of Education closing that down and all that stuff. It's literally all you have. And all you can do is go, like he didn't make it on a small announcement. He didn't put out like a little press release. Like this is on one of the top five biggest podcasts in the world. And he didn't say it with enthusiasm, but you still set it. So like, and a guy like Lex Friedman, forgive me, I can't listen to that guy, but like, doesn't seem like he pushes the regime narrative too much. But that came out on, that came out on his show. So like, if he defaults on that or like, you know, it takes a while into the second term, like, you know, the fact that it was on that show, if you want to push that, you can, you can start remixing the shit out of that. Remember when you said that, you know, like, yes, that's all you can do is apply pressure and make life tough for the guy. Hey, you don't want to release the Epstein list. Why it's a good thing. Don't get me wrong. It's kind of like him saying he'll release Ross and all that. Like, it's a good thing for him to say it because then we can use his words, his own words against him. I'm just saying, if I had to put money on whether or not Donald Trump was going to release the Epstein files based on that clip, I would, I would be willing to put money that he's not going to do any of that. Even if he gets elected, even if he's in there for years and nothing happens to him, I would bet heavily unless something changes at this point in time, unless things get harder for him or somebody pushes him over the edge, there is zero chance in my mind that Donald Trump is going to release the Epstein files. Do you agree or disagree? Or would you be willing to take that bet, Dave? I would not be willing to take the bet. He would do it because I think that the odds are not there. But would you say that the odds are better or worse after the Lex Friedman interview? Better? Anytime he says it, it's certainly better than it was. That's what I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. It's just a little like, just a bump up, not like a wow moment, but just a little better than it was. 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We believe in Harris and Walls, a brother Bobby's decision to endorse Trump today is a betrayal of the values that our father and our family hold most dear. It is a sad ending to a sad story. Signed by Kathleen Kennedy, terrible, terrible name, Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, Courtney Kennedy, Carrie Kennedy, Chris Kennedy, and Rory Kennedy. Now, before we give thoughts on them not liking that he supported Trump, here's what they were saying a couple weeks before that. Joe Kennedy. I'm Kerry Kennedy, Rory Kennedy, Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, Chris Kennedy, and I'm here to proudly endorse Joe Biden. Joe Biden, Joe Biden. Our future is on the ballot in a way in which we haven't seen in generations. The only way to win this election is for everybody to go out and vote for Joe Biden. Did she get the voice thing too? Is that what happened there? Is it hereditary? Is it naturally developing? And Kamala Harris. When I think of modern politicians in our country, in this century, I think Joe Biden is the RFK of his generation. Oh, and democracy believes in human rights, believes in the freedoms. This is a president who embodies the Kennedy legacy. My name is. All right. Now. So they, yeah, so they are against him voting for him endorsing Trump and dropping out. They don't like that he did that. But a couple weeks earlier, they were saying that Joe Biden is the new Kennedy Joe Biden is the new candidate. Can you imagine putting all the effort into making this video and putting it out together and being like, this is what we're going with against our brother. Fuck our brother. We're putting this out. And then Joe Biden drops out and you've got Kamala Harris and all you can do is be like, we still don't like our brother. Shut up. Kamala. Walls. They've got this figured out. That's it. Bro, what, what an awful sentence it must be for anybody to grow up a Kennedy. You know, you're a legacy that's so ingrained. Like you don't have a choice. It's much, it must be like being princess die or something like that, or like maybe in the royal family. Like you don't have a choice. You will say what it takes. You like are in this thing. And it's like, if you don't participate, you're excommunicated. And I just, I feel so bad for all of them. Because I imagine they're all tormented by the sins of their fathers. But that makes me feel like, like anytime we talk about like, oh man, that was cool with Trump said, but I don't trust Trump or oh, that was cool with RFK said, but like, he I don't know Epstein. I think he might have whatever all this stuff. It makes all them all this does is like, like there's lots of reasons to be skeptical of RFK. But I know for a fact these people are full of shit. I know, I know that for a fact that they're lying or no, I was gonna say they're not stupid people. Like I'm pretty sure they know exactly what they're doing. And it just reinforces like supporting RFK, like aside from, you know, John Kennedy was a Democrat. RFK rejected the Democrats. Like that's all they've got to go on here. Like he rejects the team that we are on the team of our father, even though the team of your father is completely different. And the team of your father seemed to reject him a little bit too. He did get assassinated. But right, right. And they're just, this isn't organic. Like they're not coming out here going, Oh my God, guys, we need to get behind Joe Biden. Oh my God. And now they're going, Oh my God, guys, we need to get behind Kamala Harris. They are tools of the establishment to do establishment things. And they don't care that their brother or cousin, you know, has like very important, classically democratic issues that he's fighting for men. And not too long ago in the 90s, they were all about food freedom. And they were skeptical of vaccines and pro free speech and anti war and all the shit. And they have completely defaulted while he is kind of maintained. So that just gives Bobby Kennedy more credibility in my book, dude, seeing those awful people. Now that that might give you more credibility for for RFK. But does it give you more credibility for Tim Walz that his entire family hates him to? This is the Nebraska walls is family. I don't know exactly what the relation is, but they made a point. How many are there for 5608? Eight of them in Nebraska walls is family to some degree. They're wearing walls is for Trump shirts. And they've got a big Trump 2024 take America back flag behind them. And we also have Jeff Walz. I don't know if he's one of those or not, but it's come out recently that Tim Walz's brother Jeff Walz has been, you know, he's been posting stuff on Facebook that he thought that nobody would notice because the internet definitely doesn't keep record of everything. But Jeff Walz said, I've thought hard about somebody asked him if he thought about endorsing Trump. And he said, I thought hard about doing something like that. I'm torn between and just keeping my family out of it, torn between that and just keeping my family out of it. The stories I could tell, not the type of character you want making decisions about your future. He also said when this loads, a couple things said we've just become a third world banana Republic. He said, haven't spoken to him in eight years. I'm 100% opposed to all his ideology. My family wasn't given any notice that he was selected and denied security the days after. Now he also said, Oh, that's one already read. Um, yep. Here is, I think this clip from Tim Walz. No, it's just anything. This is nothing. Okay, I have a clip from Tim Walz. We'll play that and we'll get all the thoughts. Accuse, spoke exclusively with Jeff Walz and he joins me now. Rich, what did he have to say? Hi, Elizabeth. So I spoke with Jeff Walz for about 15 minutes this morning by phone. He said, look, he wants to clarify some things. He never intended what he wrote to be viewed by a national audience. It was on Facebook and probably the wrong forum. That said, he did not shy away from his words. He says he, everything he wrote is true. Take a listen. It wasn't my intent. It wasn't our intent of the family to put something out there to influence the general public. In an exclusive interview with News Nation, Jeff Walz, brother of Democratic VP candidate, Tim Walz, says he wants to set the record straight after criticizing his brother, Tim, on Facebook, saying he's not the type of character who should make decisions about our future and that he's, quote, 100% opposed to all his ideology. Former President Donald Trump quickly pounced praising Jeff on Truth Social, writing, "Sounds like a really great guy." Despite saying to his Facebook friends that he had thought long and hard about endorsing Trump on stage, now he tells News Nation he wants no part of the election. We're not campaigning or anything for him or against him or anything like that. Jeff, who is a registered Republican and donated $20 to Trump's 2016 campaign, still want he bucks. Oh man, he's going to get the rec treatment right there. He's going to get it. Hands by his comments that he disagrees with his brother. I will say I don't agree with his policies. But he says his posts were intended to rebuke rhetoric that he was ideologically in lockstep with the vice presidential nominee. It was a post that I made because I was getting a lot of feedback from my friends, old acquaintances, thinking that I was feeling the same way that my brother did on the issues and I was trying to clarify that just to friends I used. Now I can't speak for Jeff Walls' character. I can't speak for the Walls family of Nebraska's character or anything. I feel like Jeff Walls is much more credible because he's like, whoops, I posted that in a comment on Facebook to some Rando who was asking me something and then the media grabbed onto it and immediately ran with it and I want to stay out of this personally. I want to be left to fuck alone. Just know that I stand by what I said. I don't agree with my brother. Now leave me alone. Meanwhile, the Nebraska Walls family is posting Trump 2024 stuff and they made shirts. They literally made shirts. Do you do it? Um, Dave, do you think there's a distinction between the Kennedy family, the Walls family, Jeff Walls, are they all right wrong or are there different blends of political retardation? Oh, sure. But no, the definite, the laymen would say they're doing the same things but the big difference is that the Kennedy's are American royalty. The Kennedy's are part of the regime and ironically even though Tim Walls is representing the state, the regime, the system, his family is not part of that and his family is not the Kennedy's. They're not being told to do that. They felt like doing that much like the brother on Facebook, like they have differences with their brother. But, um, I really, I respect the guy on Facebook. You know, it's funny though. I think if it were 2016, that guy probably would have been flagged and and suspended for 60 days for election interference. Um, even though that's obviously his own page and his own opinion, but I respect and appreciate the fact that he's like, hey, I didn't mean for that to happen. Like, I disagree with my brother. We're estranged. Um, please don't elect him. But no, I didn't mean to do that. And I don't, you know, please leave us alone. Like that's, that's the, that's kind of what I want to see the Kennedy's say. Yeah. Like, hey, we love our brother. We love our cousin. And we all have different political opinions. We respect that and, you know, go do your own thing. That's really what they're going to say is, um, we disagree with him because he disagrees with the regime and he disagrees in a particularly bad way. So we support whoever is not him. We do not support him in any way. Like, it's not even about like substance. They're just like, no, that's not what our, our, that's not what JFK was about. That's not what the party's about. Just like, we disagree. Signed the Kennedy's. This is like, ah, please leave me alone. But also, no, he's full of shit, Tim Walls. Um, yeah, it's a completely different thing. So, um, yeah, but fun to watch families be torn apart by politics. That's always, you know, good entertainment. Let's move on. Something else. Joe Scarborough said some fun things on. So we're going to get into this Kamala Harris interview and talk about that for a bit. But before we do, I want to give you just a, we're going to fast forward into the future after the Kamala Harris interview and get what Joe Scarborough's biggest complaints are, um, with, uh, with the world today and with the mainstream media because he's going to be a big critic. Jeff, um, you made the point to your guests that Donald Trump will be brutish at Arlington, uh, going places that no other politician has gone. He will have bizarre tweets daily that suggest he's deeply unwell. He will flip flop on issues like abortion and immigration and just, and just about everything else. Uh, why? First off, yes, Donald Trump does flip flop on things. But if you're using Donald Trump flip flops on things as an attack on him to prove that people should vote for Kamala Harris. You are mentally insane. You are insane. She went from open the borders to everybody to she's the borders are. She's not the borders are to we need to build a wall. Building the wall was racist before. And now, uh, it was her idea all along and Donald Trump's too weak. Like she's not only flip flopping her. She's saying, um, he disagrees with building the wall. He's been so weak on the border after she called him a racist for eight years because he wanted to close the border. And, uh, you know, cops, she was a cop. Then she was defund the police. Now she's like, Donald Trump's not strong enough for the police and I'm the better cop and I will prosecute him. Like the flip flopping is always a thing that all, especially during presidential elections, they all do it because they all are trying to get with the times and see what will get them the most votes and none of it means anything because they're not going to do a damn thing when they actually get installed, but, um, or elected, if you will, uh, but, uh, yeah, just the gaslighting of Donald Trump's a flip flopper. So you should vote for Kamala Harris who has literally 183 60 multiple times over the last four years just on the simplest of policy, not even policies, the simplest of, you know, ideologies, the ideology is completely changed. There is no policy to fix it. It's just the ideology has changed now. It's not bad. It's not racist to be pro cop. It's not racist to be anti-immigration. So now I'm that Kamala Harris and, uh, yeah, but Donald Trump's a flip flopper. And with that, Joe Scarborough, I do agree, but also you're an idiot constantly and yet the media will pretend like this is 1996 and it's Clint and Dolan. Like, Oh, yes, but Kamala Harris had Tim Walts with her in her first interview. And this is, I noted that that was everybody's biggest concern and complaint about that interview that Tim Walts was there. Yeah, that's so stupid. Again, remember, this is post interview. Yes, that was a complaint leading up to the interview post interview. There have been a few more complaints piled on that we'll get to, but, uh, yes, everybody was only complaining because Tim Walts was there is the pace of and I hate criticizing the mainstream media because Yeah, I know. I hate criticizing the mainstream media and do things right. But there is almost a lot more time for the hate criticizing the mainstream media because mainly they do things right. But there is almost a desperation for them to pretend this race is like every other race. And the false moral equivalency is getting pretty bad. And we're just one day past Labor Day. Talk about that, if you will. Yeah, no, I mean, this really struck me. I mean, it should have struck all of us about nine years ago, right? But it really struck me when he did his long soliloquy on batteries, electric electricity and sharks. Remember that? Whether it be whether it's better to be killed by a shark or by a battery falling into the, so the premise that they're trying to establish here is the mainstream media for all of their many, many goods have this one fault where they criticize Kamala Harris for having Tim Walts on there. But Donald Trump speaks like an idiot. He just rambles about nonsense and garbage. Kamala Harris, all she did was have Tim Walts there. Notice how they didn't mention anything else about the interview. They're just like, why is everybody being so mean to Kamala Harris? Just because she had Tim Walts there. Meanwhile, Donald Trump says incoherent nonsense. You know, in the 50 hours of press that he does every single week, he does say some stupid shit. Yes, he sure does. And Kamala Harris got 15 minutes in, and we'll see how that goes in a bit. And then, you know, last week, it was this another sort of incredible disposition about irrelevant things. And I was listening to these and I'm thinking, my God, if Kamala Harris spent 10 minutes on stage randomly talking about whether, first of all, he doesn't even understand how batteries. You know, so he completely bailed on that thought. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's not saying anything. He's doing what she does. Yes. Absolutely nothing. Yeah. And he's like, if Kamala Harris stood on the sit on the stage and said, wait, she has done that a lot. Anyway, back to Donald Trump spent 10 minutes on stage randomly talking about whether, first of all, he doesn't even understand how batteries work and how stored energy works. And if he's he spends last week talking about how people don't eat bacon anymore because of windmills, that's not is right normal. I mean, it's not it's not normal, and we can't act as if it's normal. And so we're operating with a double standard. Kamala Harris, we parse her speeches, her interviews as if they come through, they go through Kamala Harris's speeches and interviews. Well, interview plural with a fine tooth comb and they parse it all out, but Donald Trump is just speaking nonsense. A serious human being who is taking slightly different positions on X or Y or Z and we're holding her accountable. And that's fine. And especially fine in a normal circumstance. But here we're in a situation where she's talking about she's talking about things within a normal bandwidth of political discussion. Once again, she's talking about normal stuff, you know, the normal things. Come on, man, you know, the things. You can't even give like one thing that she's talking about because he's afraid if he says something she'll have already flip flopped on it by the time the interview is over or he'll have to defend himself and be like, Oh, no, she actually didn't say that or whatever. He's like, you know, she says, you know, normal stuff. Well, he says weird stuff. Dude, the most infuriating part about this is that this stuff goes on 24 hours a day. Yeah. And stupid people tune in and get this pumped into their head. Yeah. And they really, I was going to say they believe it. I don't know what they believe. The only message is outrage be outraged because Trump is this, this, this and all the things that you hate. And some of these things can be true. It's just that like, all day these people just do this. And it's still a buster for 24 hours a day. That's the perfect word, dude. This is not, this is not news. This is like hammering a message and like that one signal all day, every day. And it's having an effect on people, dude. It is. And it started with, if you recall, if this clip started with shit, I lost my point. I did it start with this clip started with Joe Scarborough saying something. I don't know. Oh, how they're switching everything. Yeah, they're switching up. They're all flappers, don't flip flapper. Yeah, flapper. That's what we're going with. Don Trump is a flip flapper. I heard just talking about, I heard, sorry, real quick, I just saw Joe Scarborough the other day talking about, like, you know, we talk about democracy a lot, but you know what else we need to talk about? Free market capitalism. Like they're, they are kind of switching the thing to like law and order and just bring it back around stuff that's popular around. Yeah, exactly. Just election season and then we'll go right back to the original message. Yep. The original message, which was also bullshit for anybody out there who supported Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, because they were going to be the no more cops and open borders people like whether or not I agree with you, doesn't matter. Just know that that's not happening ever. It wasn't going to. And when that becomes popular, again, they will be back in sport of that. But right now, Kamala, cop, Kamala, that we've been top cop, Kamala, that we've been pointing out for a long time is suddenly all for cops and all for clothes borders. So like, just from the perspective of the people who were dumb enough to believe that politicians were going to, you know, outlaw cops and yes, they were very soft on crime for a while. But now that that's not popular because we've seen the outcome. Now she's top cop, Kamala again. So enjoy your a cab top cop. And her definitely very coherent things that she talks about. I'm not sure what they are, but we're confident in that. She knows. She says normal things. Well, Trump says nothing. Things within a normal bandwidth of political discussion. And he's saying abnormal things and we're treating them the same. And there's two different races going on. And there's two very good I agree with this guy on one thing. He did say it's weird that we're treating this like a normal election. No, it's not a normal election at all. It is in the sense that you're being fed bullshit from both sides and you're supposed to believe it and pick the best of both of two evils. That is certainly normal. But it is not normal that Kamala Harris was literally installed through zero democratic process and Donald Trump has been raked through the coals and, you know, attempted arrests many, many, many times attempted assassination. And it nothing about this is normal. I think normal is gone. There is no normal. Thank you social media. I don't think I don't think we're going back to Mitt Romney versus Barack Obama or whatever. I don't think we're going to have those days anymore. But the good news is that the McCain's and the Bush's and the Obamas and the Clintons are all taking a side seat. And they're like, yeah, this isn't normal anymore. Can we get back to normal? I will give Donald Trump credit for that. And when MSNBC says Kamala Harris is normal and Donald Trump is not normal. That is not saying what you think it's saying because I don't want normal. I don't. I don't want Trump either. But I don't, I definitely don't want to go back to the choices being between war and war. Thoughts Dave? Yeah, this is one of the things that I think is really great or reassuring about a possible Trump presidency is that, you know, like I saw like one of the pro Kamala Twitter pages promoting like, oh, 200, you know, public employees and George Bush and Mitt Romney and Liz Cheney and the McCain, they're all over here and they're supporting this guy like cross, you know, crossing the aisle. Like that's the way that they see it's like an inversion of the like, and then oh, like what does the other side have Tulsi Gabbard and RFK? Like as if that's like to me, those are the best that the independents or the Democrat Party has to offer. Yeah. So, but they're they see the exact same information, the same statistics, and it gives them the opposite reaction. So that is the thing that they're clamoring on and going, you know, touting, look at this, we got bipartisan support from from the bushes, from the worst Republicans, the worst Democrats, they all agree. So I don't know, man, this lends more credibility to the other team, you know, or at least making it more preferable, you know, the worst people in the world. Yeah, you know, the better of two evils. That's where we're at, Dave. Yeah. That's what we come down to. Well, we didn't choose this, but here we are. Um, now we've got the setup for the interview. We got to get some some clips from the interview because it was glorious. Dave, did you catch the interview? I know it was long and drawn out like a Lex Friedman interview, but did you, did you catch the 20s, the 18 to 27 minute interview that Kamala Harris did with her wingman Tim Walz and a dingy diner somewhere and who knows with her tour bus? No lights. No lights needed. Did you catch any of that? Hell no, bro. I waited to see if from Twitter, if I needed to watch any of that. Um, so I've watched this thing so many times. It helps that it was real short, real short. I'm glad that you could psycho analyze it for us. Uh, but no, I caught a couple minutes, but not, uh, not the whole well. You're in for a treat and, uh, people in the chats, let me know. Have you watched this that we are about to watch? Otherwise we can find out together or you and Dave, because I did my homework. Now, this is so, um, Dana Bash, Dana Bash, whatever, CNN, um, they did this interview. It's the only interview that Kamala Harris has done so far, the only sit down thing. And I think it's important to note the setting, as I've mentioned a couple times, because I'll bring it up once we can see it better, but, um, it is, I don't know whose idea was terrible PR, terrible, terrible setting, terrible lighting, terrible, everything makes Kamala Harris look like a midget who's just like, Tim Walz has her there on a leash instead of the other way around. Um, it's very awkward and we can point those out, but, um, also, uh, important to note, this interview would not have mattered nearly as much if they didn't put off doing the interview for like two months or whatever it was. Like, several months went by, I think, at least a month, we'll say, for the sake of being fair. At least a month went by and you didn't get a single interview in and it got to the point where people were saying, why are you scared to do interviews? And then you did one. So, right out the gate, all eyes are on this thing because you waited so long. So it was already higher stakes than would have been expected. If she came out the next day after, you know, the DNC and she was like, all right, I'm sitting down with, who knows, Lex Friedman or something. They didn't want to do that for some reason. I don't know what the reason is, but let's see if we can find out together. This is, uh, what she's gonna do on day one, I believe. You are elected. What would you do on day one in the White House? Well, there are a number of things. I will tell you first and foremost, one of my highest priorities is to do what we can to support and strengthen the middle class. When I look at the... So, right out the gate, what are you gonna do on day one? Everybody knows it's bullshit. Everybody knows the answer is bullshit. Whatever you say, you're not gonna actually do it on day one. But if you're running for president, it should be the easiest question you could possibly ever answer. What are you gonna do on day one? Have something, have anything. And again, this was like a month or two of preps that they had. I think it was like 40 days that they had a prep to get ready for their first interview or assuming that they assumed we're smart enough to assume that there would be an interview down the line somewhere. What are you gonna do on day one? Should not be a hard question to ask. And yet, Kamala Harris still feels like she just got appointed yesterday. And she's like, "Ah, well, to read verbatim." Well, there's a number of things. I will tell you first and foremost, one of my highest priorities is to do what we can to support and strengthen the middle class. Do what we can. Whatever it is, we're gonna do what we can to do this very vague thing of supporting the middle class. That's how she starts it out. Aspirations, the goals, the ambitions of the American people. Aspirations, the goals, and the ambitions, Dave, not just aspirations, which are goals, like things that you aspire to do in life, not just goals, which are aspirations, things you aspire to do in life, and not just ambitions, which are goals and aspirations. She does, she, as we pointed out before, it's like a child giving a book report, and they're like, they had to fill in the words. Like, I will take as long and as broad and as lengthened of steps to get exactly not just where I need to go, but exactly, specifically and intentionally where I need to go. She's saying as little as she possibly can, and as many words as she possibly can, and still saying nothing. Yeah. I feel like there's a couple pages worth of notes that was given to her, and immediately upon being asked the first question, she freaked out and just like, remembered, remembered a part, and was just like, just started middle class, middle class got a strength in it. Well, she kind of looks down at the beginning too, like when she's first asked the question, she looks down almost like there's notes there, like note cards that are like middle class, something, just fill a buster about the middle class, and she does. Well, there are no, you know, scratch the lip. It's just casual. It's definitely not a sign of uncomfortable. I don't know exactly what I'm about to say. Look up then. I will tell you first and foremost, one of my highest priorities is to do what we can to support and strengthen them. I mean, maybe she's not looking at notes. Maybe she's just very not confident, because that's a sign of one or the other. Either way, it's not great. Why would this bitch hit me with this gotcha right off the bat? Middle class. When I look at the aspirations, the goals, the ambitions of the American people, I think that people are ready for a new way forward in a way that generations of Americans have been fueled by hope and by optimism. I think sadly, in the last decade, we have had in the former president someone who has really been pushing an agenda and an environment that is about diminishing the character and the strength of who we are as Americans, really dividing our nation. And I think people are ready to turn the page on that. So what would you do? Oh my God. Bro, turn in the page. We need to turn. She's running like she's the underdog. Yes. You're the vice president. We're going to change things from my cabinet to my cabinet. Wow. Did you see their Dana Bash even at the end, she's like, so what would you do on day one? You know, that question that I asked like 30 seconds ago, what would you do there? And I got to ask like, you know, to any Kamala Harris supporter, do you know what Kamala Harris would do on day one so far? Because all I've heard is middle class and we've got this and words, words, words. I would love to know what they want her to do on day one. Right. I could give you a list of 10 things that I would want any president to do on day one. So what do you want them to do on day one? That's what I would like to know. Sure. All right. It's going to be about one. I think people are ready to turn the page on that. So what would you do day one? Day one, it's going to be about one implementing my plan for what I call an opportunity economy. I've already laid out a number of proposals in that regard. I've already done it. It's out there. I call it opportunity economy and I would do that, you know, it's already out there. You can go find it. It's fine. Like no need to get into any of the specifics or any sort of detail on what you would do on day one. I'm just going to opportunity economy. You know, you know what that is. What we're going to do to bring down the cost of everyday goods. What we're going to do to invest in America's small businesses. What are they going to invest in family? You're going to talk about them. You're going to talk about what you're going to do. Or there is a plan to do something because the question was, what are you going to do? And we're going to, she says, I've got the transcript here so we can read along. I've already laid out a number of proposals in that regard, which include what we're going to do to bring down the cost of everyday goods. But what is it? It's somewhere. Just trust me. What we're going to do to invest in America's small businesses. What we're going to do to invest in families. For example, okay. Finally getting down to the meat and potatoes. Extending the child tax credit to $6,000 for family. Okay. So an actual thing. Just going to extend the child tax credits. But it's mostly about what we're going to do. We are a minute and a half into this interview and 500 words. And so far we've got child tax credit. For example, extending the child tax credit to $6,000 for families for the first year of their child's life to help them buy a car seat, to help them buy baby clothes, a crib. There's the work that we're going to do that is about investing in the American family around affordable housing. A big issue in our country right now. So there are a number of things on day one. A number of things and I named one. So far I named one. The rest of that was there's the work that we're going to do that is about investing in the American family around affordable housing. A big issue in our country right now. So there are a number of things that we're going to do on day one. There's a lot. There's a lot. We're going to do that one thing. And you know, there's the other things that we've been talking about, you know, something. You know, day one. Any thoughts Dave? I want to have faith. Like American voters are obviously very very flawed. Sure. But but I want to believe that people who watch this. I mean, this is mainstream shit. I want to believe that when people see that even people that typically really want to support a Democrat over Trump, you know, even people with TDS that they just will feel so uncomfortable and so unconvinced by that by that performance. Like she just comes off as so unimpressive. And this is a shame too, man, because you know, like I've met there's some impressive women doing impressive things, dude, like America is ready for a female president. Like if you had actual free and fair elections, and man, it wasn't. I'm just saying this particular woman is so fucking dumb. Yeah, if you're going to get one, at least try a little get a decent one doesn't have to be a good one. We could do so much better than this is my argument. Yeah, so I just don't think unless, you know, like it's a strong argument to the to the to the left. Late lady of color. They don't need to know. The end. The end. Don't underestimate lady of color. Democrat lady of color. Democrat lady of color. I mean, Democrat would have been enough, obviously, because they were going for ancient white corpse that is also like the only crossover between the two is Democrat. So all it would have taken was Democrat, but now they got Democrat lady of color. So I'm telling you, this is like a it's a brilliant plan because all of the like legacy Democrats feel so good by supporting lady of color and all the ladies of color and the men of color. Frankly, all of the Democrats and all of the women should be insulted that they're just like, well, you know, that you'll just go for this because Democrat and also lady of color, she doesn't have to have any substance. Yeah, that's why those ladies for Trump, you know, should be applauded even if like, it's kind of cringe that they're really excited about Trump. Just, you know, the same way it was cool to see people, you know, leave the Democrat party in 2016 over Hillary Clinton. Like, that is egregious enough to be like, what the fuck are we doing? You know, like scat, let's do something else. Yeah, so but let's keep going here. You remember Joe Scarborough's biggest complaint right out the gate was that Donald Trump was too much of a foot flopper. And here's Kamala Harris being asked about fracking clarity on where you stand on some key policy issues. Energy is a big one. When you were in Congress, you supported the green new deal. And in 2019, you said, quote, there is no question I'm in favor of banning fracking. Fracking, as you know, is a pretty big issue, particularly in your must win state of Pennsylvania. Do you still want to ban fracking? No, and I made that clear on the debate stage in 2020, that I would not ban fracking as vice president. You support it in 2019. And then in 2020, you changed your mind. Okay, got it. Definitely not flip flopping. Her values have never changed. I did not ban fracking as president. I will not ban fracking. In 2019, I believe in a town hall, you said you were asked, would you commit to implementing a federal ban on fracking on your first day in office? And you said there's no question in favor of banning fracking. So yes. Like for Joe Scarborough to be like, the main point that he brings up is the flip flopping of Donald Trump. Like the entire interview, not the entire interview, but that anytime they tried to have a hard question, it was about literal flip flopping. And they still couldn't figure it out. They could they did not have an answer for it. Also, keep in mind my disdain for the background now that we can see it more. I'm sorry, I had to zoom out, but you can see the very dingy, unlit diner. You can see Tim Walz looming over Kamala Harris, you know, future president Kamala Harris who looks like she's doing better than him. Like this from a technical standpoint, this is CNN's fault, they should have, they should have known better. Like if they were on her side as clearly as they are, get, I don't know, something that looks a little bit presidential, not we ran into Kamala Harris at the diner. And now we're gonna have a sit down, lay out all the empty cups behind us to make it look like nobody cleaned up after the fact, and then park their bus outside. And that's presidential. No lights. They could have had him had her sit higher, they could have made her chair higher, that there are ways they're not hard. You can get booster seats, you can get stuff that like it's, it's not even a joke like on normal, like production sets, they will make sure that everybody kind of sits around the same height, because they don't want anybody to be towering over somebody. They don't want it to look awkward. This is a failure on CNN's fault, CNN's part at the very least. And as somebody who's running for president, doing their only interviews together for only 17 minutes, it should have been a little bit easier to be like, can we at least give me a phone book to sit on? So I don't look like somebody who's waiting for a drink at the bar. Dave, go ahead. I think your only mistake and good analysis, your only mistake is that I think CNN probably knows exactly what they're doing. Sure. I think that's a possibility too. Yes. And they know that that angle is going to make her look weak, and they might know that that background looks lame, and that the lighting sucks, and that he looks at me with a Donald Trump is part of the plan. But go on. Yeah, no, I think that that absolutely lends to that. And if you know, even if that's a little far-fetched to anybody watching, certainly you can admit that CNN makes a lot more money and gets a lot more views and clicks and eyeballs when Donald Trump is the subject matter. And that, you know, you get more out of him when, you know, even though she's getting a lot out of him right now acting like she's the underdog here. No, like when he's president, you get a lot more, you get a lot more money. So something to consider. Yeah, I think that, you know, obviously they, they probably all dude, what it really is, it seems like what they really have to control is the primary process. And then if you get two people that can be controlled, she'd be controlled or Donald Trump could be controlled. You find the one who will pacify the public kind of the best. And I don't, I don't think that she is convincing anybody that she would pacify the public for four years. Like, I think that Dana Bash, this looks painful for CNN. Like, I don't think that they want to fake this for four years. I think that they want Trump to go out there, entertain the people. They'll do more outrage porn. So will Joe Scarborough, you know what I mean? The money will flow. And I think that's probably still on that tip. So yeah, I'm not saying Trump is like any great savior or anything. And that's why you should support him. It's just not saying that that's probably what's going to happen. And at least the rhetoric is better. Yeah. At the very least, they're, they're throwing her under the bus, whether intentionally or not, they're really leaving her out to dry. I feel like CNN's playing it really safe. Because it's like, Dan, Dana Bash is like, here's what sounds like a hard question, but shouldn't be a hard question. And I'm going to give you a multiple choice answer. Is that, is that, is that your answer? Are you sure? Are you sure? Like, she's trying, but probably just for a plausible deniability. So they don't seem like it. But yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if they're doing this on purpose to be like, yeah, this is going in a certain way. And we're not going to be the ones who were the hardcore, comillist supporters when this all hits the fan. And it turns out that, like, we're not going to completely sell our credibility down the line. So like, the writing is on the wall. So why, why would we do that? Like, what does it benefit our company to, to support a thing that's clearly not going to win? It's possibility. Or they just suck at their job, which is also always possibility. Well, too, I mean, like, I don't, I'm maybe more conspiratorial in this, but like, this network is not just fake news. It's not just some dudes who are into fake news. Like, it's a, it's a deep state operation. And yeah, has been in the eight. And if not every single one of them, like most of these people, Aaron Burnett, you know, like that lady up there, that chick who was just on Colbert, like these are probably, these are probably feds. Yeah, at some level, you know, like, you know, or at least participating, acting with feds. So like, you know, but it's at least controlled. So like, Danabash, like, you know, it's not like she's trying to destroy Kamala Harris, because Kamala Harris is playing the role of the opposition. So you like kind of just maybe go hard enough, like with fracking was perfect. Because like, I'm sure Danabash knows that America's America wants energy independence. Yeah. So like by saying something like that, it's not like you impugn her character or make her look bad or like discredit her. It's just fully, you just like, kind of like, oh, you do some jabbing for the establishment. Yeah. That's, that's basically what that whole thing is. Shabbing for the establishment. Kid gloves. Now speaking of kid gloves, let's talk about Tim walls, because he had some, some fun clips too. You know, again, reminder, Joe Scarborough's biggest issue is that Don Trump is a flip flopper. Oh, taking it off mute to get to know you. Governor walls. The country is just starting to get to know you. I want to ask you a question about how you've described your service in the National Guard. You said that you carried weapons in war, but you have never deployed actually in a war zone. A campaign official said that you misspoke. Did you? Well, first of all, I'm incredibly proud to have done 24 years of wearing uniform of this country. Equally proud of my service in a public school classroom, master Congress or, or the governor. My record speaks for itself, but I think people are coming to know me. I speak like my record speaks for itself. People who look into me know that I'm full of shit. It's fine. But, you know, I'm incredibly proud of working with kids, and I'm incredibly proud of hating guns. They're scary. They do serve us. I speak candidly. I wear my emotions on my sleeves, and I speak especially passionately about it. Comma's face. She's like proud mama. Yeah, you're doing it. You're, you're telling that lie just right. Good job. I'm proud of you. He's like, I wear my emotions on my sleeve. I'm just an old Southern, Southern Sherman gentleman. You know, I might have said complete and utter bullshit, but you know, people know me. They know, they know my heart. They know what I'm all about. Yeah, that was bullshit, but, you know, you know me. You get it. About our children being shot in schools and around, around guns. So I think people know me. They know who I am. They know where, where my heart is. And again, my record has been out there for over 40 years to be for itself. And the idea that you said that response, but you did say it, right? That like, I don't know how else to do this, Tim. You got to give me something 40 years to be for itself. And the idea that you said that you were in war, did you miss because the campaign has said? Yeah, I said we were talking about in this case, this was after school shooting, the ideas of carrying these weapons of war. And my wife, the English, you're telling my grammar is not always correct. But again, if it's not this, it's an attack on my children for showing. Yeah, first off, she gives him, she starts with a multiple choice. Was it was it what the campaign said that it was just a misspeak? And then he's like, Oh, yeah, just my grammar is bad. But I speak off the cuff and also guns bad. Yep. Like, right, the amount of spin myself, I get myself in trouble because I'm so passionate about school shootings that I just yeah, his ability to spin is is not not impressive. Like his ability to take it from, you said that you went to war. That was a lie. And explain yourself. And his explanation is, Oh, I'm just an emotional guy. I wear my heart and my sleeve. And I don't like kids dying around the world, you know, and, you know, people know me. My wife's grammar teacher. And she tells me that I don't speak too good. And, you know, you know, you know, like, no, I don't know. Why did you say that thing that was not true? Just just focus on that. Focused him just a little bit of focus. Now, well, you know, I'm passionate about kids and, you know, I wear my heart and my record. Everybody knows me. I'm just a normal guy, just like you and you and others. Love for me or it's an attack on my dog. Oh, and that's another thing at the end there. He's like, well, I don't speak too good, but also they're attacking me for everything. So there's just another one of those. But it's like, well, they're attacking you. Yes, that's why this was brought up at all. Now, can you please address the question of why they're attacking you when you said one thing, but it turned out to be false. Can you please address that? If it's not this, it's an attack on my children for showing love for me or it's an attack on my dog. I'm not going to do that. And the one thing I'll never do is I'll never demean another member's service in any way I never have. And I never will. I just one other question because again, this is all new. Listen, Dana, if you question my service again, you're pretty much an un-American piece of shit and everyone will know it. So, yes, better just try to. If she's like, just one more question, the only other question should be, can you please answer the fucking question that I already asked? Like, it should be the same question again, because you've said absolutely nothing. It was not, however, many days ago, this was not on either of your bingo cards, especially yours. You had to clarify that you had said that you and your wife used IVF, but it turned out you used a different kind. She's so hesitant to ask any of these questions. She's like, it, like, you can feel the I'm still part of the system, but I'm supposed to not be in this moment because this needs to seem like a thing. But she's still like, you and your wife said this thing. It's not true, is it? Is it? Is it like Tim? Is it like the last time? Oh, God damn it, Tim. Is it because you can't talk good? Oh, fertility in order to have children. And then when you ran for Congress in 2006, your campaign repeatedly made false statements about a 1995 arrest for drunken reckless driving. What do you say to voters who aren't sure whether they can take you at your word? What do you say to voters who think that you're full of shit because you're so clearly full of shit? What do you say to those people? Well, I've been very public. I think they can see my students come out, former folks I've served with, and they do, they vouch for me. I served with this probably not the word to use when you're talking about former students at this point. So far, this is the same answer as the last time people didn't know me know me. My reputation speaks for itself. I'm really proud of my service. You get it. Yeah. Come on, man. Mistakes when I make them. The one thing I'll tell you is of I wished in this country wouldn't have to do this. I spoke about our infertility issues because it's hell and families know this. And I spoke about the treatments that were available to us that had those beautiful children there. That's quite a contrast in folks that are trying to take those rights away from us. And so I think people know who I am. They know that record. They've seen that. I've taught thousands of students. I've been out there. And I won't apologize for peaking passionately whether it's guns in schools or protecting reproductive rights. The contrast could not be clear between what we're running against the vice president's position on this has been clear. And I think most Americans get it if you've been through that. I don't think they're cutting hairs on IVF or IUI. I think they're cutting hairs on as an abortion ban and the ability to be able to deny families the chance to have a beautiful child. So that question that I just asked you about you saying one thing and another thing being true. Your response is Donald Trump bad. What we're talking about here is rights for women abortion rights IVF rights and protecting children in schools. I don't know how we got to protecting children in schools again out of hey you lied about IVF but you know master class. Oh that's it for that question. Good enough. Good enough y'all. Again the only question that should have been asked was you lied right. And then when he gives the bullshit response the follow up should be you lied though right. And then the follow up after that paragraph should be but also you lied right. Like that thing that I just asked you three times that happened right. But no Trump's a flip flapper. I don't remember this one. Is this the same one? Well to deny families the chance to have a beautiful child. Vice President Harris you were a very staunch defender of President Biden's capacity to serve another. Yeah this is this is Kamala Harris telling her beautiful story of Joe Biden. For four years right after the debate you insisted that President Biden is extraordinarily strong. Given where we are now do you have any regrets about what you told the American. You lied right. Like you said Joe Biden was strong. That too was a lie. This feels like the Morrie Povet show but much more kind. She's like so you lied please filibuster for the next five minutes. People. No not at all. Not at all. I have. She look like a fire of your old leg. But no I did not. I did not do that. Oh not me. No what. Not at all. I have served with President Biden for almost four years now and I'll tell you it's one of the greatest honors of my career. Truly. I believe that it's truly one of the greatest honors of your career that has had a career. Yes her career. Her career. Uh-huh. Her career. Uh-huh. It probably would be that one not even the top it's one of the greatest honors of her career is being vice president of the United States. I like that she didn't like most of them use the term public service like they like to act like they're just doing that but that really is very revealing. This is part of my career. Yes and something else is you know I hope to be president but if not I'm going to do something else like host this show or write this book or. My favorite branches of my money making scheme. Wow thank you for that. For almost four years now and I'll tell you it's one of the greatest honors of my career. Truly. Um he cares so deeply about the American people. Not a joke. He is so smart and um. Look at her face while she's talking about this. The American people he is. Tell me if you think she looks convinced. Smart and um and loyal to the flooring of the brows and I. He is never plagiarized anything. Have spent hours upon hours with him be it in the Oval Office or the Situation Room. He has the intelligence the commitment and the judgment um and disposition that I think the American people rightly deserve in their president by contrast the former president has none of that. Bring it back to Trump. So um one I I I am so proud to have served as vice president to Joe Biden. Okay so um Donald or uh Joe Biden has the disposition the the intelligence the testicular fortitude to be president in in contrast. Donald Trump has none of that. So Donald Trump's bad because we all saw Joe Biden out there being really strong and smart and independent and Donald Trump has not well if Joe Biden is the example of strong and smart and independent then and Donald Trump is the opposite of that. We all saw it. You're basically saying Donald Trump is is Chad at this point because uh Donald Trump is the opposite of whatever Joe Biden was. Um Joe Biden was not strong smart or independent. Um and that that's why she's screwed because well there's a lot of money in losing and she'll get a nice career like she wants but like and that's how you know she's fake because she is unable to or she's willing to toe the line and the line is that Joe Biden is a brilliant public servant who bravely and you know not not since the likes of George Washington have we seen such a selfless president and that's the line that they're going with and she isn't Amy's line right like if she was real if this was a real life and she was a real human being she'd come out and go listen I was trying to get him out of there because this was this has been crazy for the past four years the whole time. Remember when I called remember when I called him a racist on the debate stage I meant that but uh whatever they cornered me and said I couldn't bring that shit up like you know that's one that would be real um but no she'll say whatever it takes to for her career yeah her career she can't even be honest with herself uh herself in the past where she said quite the opposite about Joe Biden which is not new but uh everything just everything for what the current day requires we will say we will do it does not matter and here's the last clip I think of the Kamala Harris interview that I want to share because this is Kamala Harris describing pay close attention to the question um Kamala Harris describing what exactly happened how the conversation went when Joe Biden called her and gave her the news that he was dropping out when he called you and said he was pulling out of the race what was that like and did he offer to endorse you right away or did you ask for it so two parts of that question what was it like and did he endorse you and her response it was um it was a sunday so here I'll give you a little too much it was 38 degrees and I was playing with my kids and like it was a sunday is how we're starting information go for it there's no such thing adam vice president um my family was staying with us and um including my baby nieces and we had just had pancakes and you know auntie can I have more bacon yes I'll make you more bacon and then we were gonna sit we were sitting down to to do a puzzle what was that laugh what are we doing she we were sitting down to do a puzzle she turns to Tim won't you know how how zany it is that my family does puzzles so here's what I think here's my takeaway from this before we continue I think that she didn't even get a phone call from Joe Biden at all none of this happened not even the phone call happened she knew that she was getting it she knew that Joe Biden was getting removed it was not Joe Biden's decision and they in their immaculate wisdom didn't even foresee the question the very tough question um what was it like coming up what was it like that was it that's all the question and she's like oh well you know it was a balmy sunday afternoon and we were on a stroll like who gives a shit what was it what was it like bro from from the staffer that brought you Doritos in the gas station calm right the story of pancakes and bacon and auntie como yeah yeah make sure that you work but that's the funny part is that like somebody wrote this down like listen you need to like come across is more likable because you're this iron box bitch and people don't trust you so you're gonna have to come we need more we need more mama energy so tell this tell this story but then like she tries to tell it and you it's just so obvious script yep it's painful and then she runs out of script and stills an answer to the question nope play and the phone rang and it was Joe Biden and um that's like the end of the story and he told me what he had decided to do and um i asked him are you sure i said yes and um and that's how i learned about it that that's it that's the story it all started on a balmy sunday and then it goes on this rabbit trail that comes down to and i was like really he was like yeah and i was like okay and that was it that's the answer to the question you can you go back and play play it again when she goes i asked him if you're sure and she does this thing she does this moron head bob mesmerizing yeah like like to dana bash like to make sure that's her saying you agree with what i'm saying here right you you know that this is the absolute truth right yeah yeah asked him are you sure there's like multiple angles to it right yeah it's amazing yeah yeah you you would believe that a person could say that right in a world that's a real thing that people would say and he said yes and um but that's how i learned about it again the question was um what was the conversation like and did he endorse you right then none of that chancred and what about the endorsement did you ask for it and he was very clear that he was gonna support me so when he called me tell you he said i'm pulling out of the race and i'm gonna support you like you give her the answer so he called you and he said uh i'm going to pull pull out of the race and then i'm going to and go ahead say it come let's say the thing well my first thought was not about me to be honest with you my first thought was about him to be honest to be honest mm-hmm to be honest with you to be honest to be honest with you i i didn't say i was completely selfless to be honest and i wasn't even thinking about me honestly i wasn't thinking about my career for one second when he called me my career was the last thing i hadn't been waiting for this moment for the last four years um to be honest with you honestly i didn't joke this time i didn't just like it's so funny she's like oh yeah he called me and told me that he's gonna uh bow out and oh yeah he told me instantly that he was gonna support me even though i hadn't told him that i was gonna run yet it was pretty obvious as all she said even like it was obvious that he was gonna support me not that i got you kid like we're gonna do this i'm behind you nothing nothing at all like clearly you're making it up so make up something better and she can't even make up something better um i think history is going to show a number of things about joe biden's presidency i think history is going to show that in so many ways it was transformative be it on what we have accomplished around finally investing in america's infrastructure investing in new economies in new industries what we have done to bring our allies back together and have confidence in who we are as america and grow that alliance what we have done to stand true to our principles um including the one of the most important international rules and norms which is the importance of sovereignty and territorial integrity and i think history is going to show not only has joe biden led an administration that has achieved those extraordinary successes but also we need to turn the page man is one that he has been in his life and career including as president quite selfless and put the american people first i just have to ask all right yay thank you common whatever that's enough of that shit we got it freaks freaks a lot of them and we got to do some freaks of the weeks before we get out of here but um yeah the whole thing is impressive especially if you're gonna say that don't trump's a flip floper and that's why you should vote for kamala even cnn's most benign possible 17 minute interview where kamala spoke for maybe ten minutes maximum and said almost nothing the entire time flip flop at least four times in just the clips that we showed which was not the whole thing um she has nothing there is nothing there she is the establishment just complete puppet even more so than joe biden was i don't trust all trump i didn't trust joe biden but kamala harris is proving that it doesn't matter if you're on your deathbed or you're completely alive as soon as you've sold your soul you're gonna say whatever you gotta say you're gonna read whatever script they put in front of you and you're gonna go along with whatever narrative is most becoming today and then implement exactly dick shit of any of it and the fact that you waited over a month to have your first interview with a wingman who flip flopped also and spent 17 total minutes if we're going with what they put out or 24 to 27 or something if you you watch the whole thing um this is the president that you want i'm not saying that donald trump should be the president that you want obviously i've said that a lot but this i'm with dave on this if you have to choose it seems like a pretty clear choice that there's nothing here there's nothing even to work with there's barely anything to criticize other than there's nothing there that will forever be the criticism all the way up till november but donald trump sucks so we have to vote for this i say yes to both donald trump sucks and also this is not a real human there's there's absolutely no who knows what we're appointing if we appoint this and have no idea who's pulling the strings to this no idea who's writing the words to this person um donald trump says stupid shit and he's a dummy and he's not very good on a lot of things and still the best of two evils that we've got right now and i don't like it dave talk me off the ledge no man i'm going to just join you on the ledge because i met the suicide ledge as awful as lex friedman is and donald trump is on so many things and it's you know kind of cavalier answer on jeffrey Epstein as that was danabash could have asked her about jeffrey Epstein but that didn't even happen so it's like ah i know it wasn't very encouraging but she's not on the record as like saying anything other than so far flip-flapped on fracking okay cool you're not even trump's better on that he's so like yeah what else what else i would say like garth wanes world wow aero smith van halen who else what else what else do you have right what do her what do her people want what is your number one thing what are you going to do on day one what do you really really want um and i think that will be just one of the one of the many reasons she won't get the support that trump will and that's because they just don't have the infrastructure they don't have the time they don't have the energy that he does and um i think there will be a landslide behind trump trump is more boring than he's ever been in his entire life and he's also like that's not how some ways dumb are like like the boats are going the boats are going so i know it just sucks that i agree with you for the most like yes if we have to choose it's an obvious choice between any of them at this point but still it's it's really sad that we've come to this dave well chase and cop you got don't act like you don't got choices that is the best ad they've ever gotten jc says fake super chat how much would it take to send dantu bro he mean grove in october i would rather be sent to bo he mean grove whenever that is and uh be just wrong assignment there but uh uh why don't you ask um bro he mean grove i think that's top lobster's thing um that he's doing to have him hit me up we can talk if he's wanting to bring people out i would happily come out i assume dave would happily come out too right dave oh yeah yeah send five dollars to the fucking downers club uh least at least that's just the that's the bare minimum send five smackers or more to the downers club that's right we'll go more places no one at all says fake super chat that dummy will keep us out of world war three yes that dummy will has the best chance to keep us out of world war three right now she also says i don't give a single shit about social issues right now i don't care about your nap or legalizing weed i like to able to keep our home and have poutine nuke us and not have poutine nuke us yes that is preferable it did not have poutine nuke is that your wife the important distinction i i can neither confirm nor deny that it's definitely yes okay i like it no that's i i think that that's uh that's valid let's work on the world war three over the heady social issues i agree and also i'm not giving in yet dave um working people find you any final thoughts you got and um any thoughts for who might win the freak of the week in the after party or where the going contender is the juggalo widow dildo oh man if you don't know go find out yeah send like i said send five smackers so you can come in and be a part of this party uh i'm glad that we saw the change of the title and i man yes step it up give me more freak show shit this is the oddity stuff uh yeah it's a lot of fun in there but yeah you can find me on twitter day versus glad one and uh youtube i'm going to do an interview with angela mccartell next uh tuesday and i'll do a debate with jacob winograd and another another libertarian on the utility of voting for uh trump or chasing cop that's monday night so uh yeah follow me on youtube that'd be great give me some support there yeah absolutely go follow dave on all of his things that he's doing um and follow him on other people's shows where he uh you know actually does things and um yeah thanks for tuning in and stuff it was quite a shit show it's been quite a you know a stir there at the beginning really touch and go and i had to restart my computer twice but we got to the end of it and it still went infinitely longer than i intended to but we're getting this work down and we're gonna see what happens i know it was supposed to be on tuesday and thursday and then i immediately realized that that didn't work for my schedule either so we'll see i think friday we're shooting for friday dave we're doing friday yeah that sounds good okay there was one thing in the on the docket that i definitely wanted to get to you today that's a spicy one i think we'll save it for friday has to do with uh trans impostors so tune in for that aren't they all though wow dave wow too far um now you can uh wow okay you can follow me at the system is down dot or no this system is down yeah dot tv um at tsidpod on twitter dan at tsidpod.com if you want to email me your rage or your freaks or what have you or wherever the system is down so thank you all for hanging out thank you for tuning in if you want some more nonsense even crazier weirder stupider nonsense go join the downers club at patreon.com/thesystemsound we will see you all over there in just about three minutes after we pee until next time maybe friday probably friday if you all sign up for the downers club we will do a friday episode go do it if we can get one person five five people to join the downers club we will do five smackers not five people we want five smackers i want five smackers from five people like that 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Today, Dan Smotz & Dave Casey watch the world burn, while laughing their way thru all the most important articles in the news… and a whole lot of unimportant ones as well. On the Docket: * Kamala’s stupid Big Girl interview * Trump is NOT releasing the Epstein Files * #FreeJoeBiden * Trans Imposters * Gaza’s Trojan Horse * & more Question everything. Stay uncomfortable. Lets get weird. Guest & Sponsor Links: Dave: https://twitter.com/davevsgoliath1 Lone Star Injury Atto...
