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If you go into Twitter and just type Delaware in the search bar, that's pretty much all you get. Is that clip real to the end of him sitting in the lawn chair? Is that really him? Well, you know how I know it's him because he reaches over into his bag and grabs a very important folder and looks and snips a couple heads and then goes back to enjoying himself. Yeah. I'm doing great, bro. Good to be with you twice in a week. I'm very lucky. Yeah, I did see that link. I don't have it pulled up, but it's an old man sitting in the lawn chair that the back of the head definitely looks like it could be Joe Biden. And would you be surprised if that's all he was doing at this point? And could you blame him? Could you blame him? Really? Soaking up that sun for his shriveled corpse one last go. 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Or dare I say, two and a half episodes a week, I'm not going to get overzealous here, but if you want two and a half episodes a week, just start giving more money, and it'll be more likely that we can justify it. And then I can pay Dave, and we can all live happily ever after through the apocalypse together. Now, that's that, that's that, go do that. I don't think we're going to do a freak of the week today, because life, there's lots of life going on and much life to be done. So we will just touch on some things here and things that I thought were noteworthy, that aren't going to be noteworthy within five days from now. And maybe we can do a little bit deeper on them, or have a little bit more discussion than instead of just breezing through clips. But yeah, Dave, I got to ask, before we get into this, where were you at on the whole QAnon thing? Don't lie, back in the day. I thought you were going to say, where were you at on January 6th, where were you at on 9/11? Dave, right, exactly. Are we dancing on a rooftop somewhere? Yeah, exactly. So, wait, sorry, where was I, what was the question? What was your, how did you see the whole QAnon thing? Give us your, any sort of your QAnon arc back in the 2016 era when it was exciting and fun and stupid. See, yeah, this is where, again, me and you must have just been on different wavelengths at the time because by the time that came along, I was like, bro, I grew up with Alex Jones. Like, if I want that stuff, I'll go to Alex Jones. And it definitely seemed kind of like the whole thing was like the breadcrumb thing. Like, just wait, like this thing is coming, that was my basic... Right, I'm with you. I was, I was into the Alex Jones at some point too, but also there was Alex Jones out there saying, I know QAnon, I know him, I've got him on the phone, I've got his number right here, we're going to have him on soon. Like, it was a big thing and Alex Jones was insisting, like for all the Alex Jones was right stuff, he still, well, he claims that he never supported QAnon, but I could absolutely find the clip of him saying, I know who QAnon is, and I will have him on the show soon. So, what did you ask his wife who QAnon was when you had her on the show? I don't remember if that was before or after all that spice, so I'm not sure. Is that his ex-wife or the current wife that you had? His ex-wife. Okay, so she's probably not the one to ask. Yeah, she didn't have the best opinion. No, so I really wasn't paying close attention, but it gave the air of a limited hangout to me. So I was just like, you know, that doesn't seem like, if your neighbor, like your regular boomer, conservative neighbor is like, "Do you hear about the conspiracy theory?" Like, you usually have to go search for those things, so yeah, it was skeptical of it from the beginning. I don't know, I found it fun and interesting. It's basically like, you know, it's one of those things that you're like, "I want it to be true, I want it to be true that there's somebody in some position of power somewhere that is looking out for the best interest of humans and actually cares about it." And actually cares about us. I don't think it turned out to be true, but I followed it. Close-ish, I didn't get into like all the Reddit threads or anything, but I did have a guy on the show, a good friend of mine who was way, way, way into it, and he had a show called CUNON Chronicles on this channel where he dug into that, and it eventually got us kicked off of Facebook and all those things once January 6 happened. So I'm a little bit hesitant to even put it in a title now, but there was a time when it was spicy enough and interesting enough that it was kind of like, national treasure, but in real life where you're like, "I hope that there's something to this, and even if not, it's a fascinating thing to go, rabbit trail to go down." I think ultimately it ended up getting a lot of people in a sticky situation on January 6 where they had to go to jail for trusting the plan to some degree, but yeah, I don't know. I thought it was cool-ish or at least interesting enough to look into on a conspiracy show when it is happening in real life at the time, and there was enough enough trickles and clues and things to make it interesting. Now, then Donald Trump got elected and none of those things came to fruition. Then Donald Trump got unelected, none of those things came to fruition, and Donald Trump is now in the process of getting re-elected, unelected, I don't know what's happening, and it seems to me that it's not still coming to fruition, but there were some things back in those days that I found interesting. One of the main rumors was that JFK Jr. is still alive, and he's going to be coming to power, and he's going to come out of the woodwork and change everything. I do think it is weird that we live in the time after that where Donald Trump's gone through all of this story arc of magnificent proportions, and now we've got Robert F. Kennedy Jr. They were close. They were close. Maybe they had a bit of a typo. They actually had the type JFK in their drops instead of RFK, but I don't know. Do you think does it lend any credence to any of the QAnon stuff, Dave, that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is now supporting Donald Trump? It kind of lends to the conspiracy that Donald Trump and/or RFK are playing ball with the intelligence community, and next year is the year that's scheduled. This has been on the docket since the early 2000s, but maybe the late '90s when it happened, but the JFK Jr. files are supposed to be released next year. That's when they're scheduled to. So if you have, again, maybe they were already supposed to once, weren't they? Maybe. But 2025 has been a lot of times they've been supposed to be released, and then we get another chunk with a whole lot of Sharpie. Not the JFK, not the original files, the JFK Jr. files. So the plane crash that went down in '99, because he was trying, he was toying with the idea of seeking the New York Senate seat, but at the same time, Hilldog, Black Leather Gloves, Hilldog, wanted that same seat. So his plane went down in a mysterious crash, and then she was elevated to the level of New York Senator. No foul play, I'm certain. But yeah, those files are supposed to be released next year. So if you're the intelligence community, and you're like, "Okay, well, a certain amount of stuff is going to come out around this time. Maybe you kind of need, just like a corporation needs the best pitch guy, the best face job, as Monica Perez would say. Maybe a Kennedy is the best thing that they could hope for. Like, "Hey, let's put this guy in front of it and make it look like we're kind of conceding some things or maybe admitting some things." So are you saying they're putting Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Donald Trump's going to put him in a position where he can release, but it's not for the good of the people, it's to soften the blow of the information that's going to be released because it's through a Kennedy. But he'll be on board by then, so he'll be there to vouch for everything. Are you saying that you don't trust Kennedy in this? I'm saying he might be there to cleanse this, to maybe kind of absolve them of some responsibility in a way. That could be his function. Could be. I don't know. Main reason to bring this up. I don't know. I stumbled across a clip yesterday. I keep saying I miss QAnon on Twitter just because I think it's funny, mostly, because QAnon was more interesting than all the conspiracies we've got going on at the moment for the most part. But there's this one clip that brought me back to some of the Q days, and I want to get your thoughts on this, Dave, especially as somebody who didn't dig that much into the QAnon stuff. This is, so this first one is, well, you can't see that, can you? Robert of Kennedy, Jr. says, this is only the beginning. Wait till the next edition, the President, Trump's unity government, #UnitedAmerica, #Maha. So, the person brought this up that RFK is saying, this is only the beginning. Now, this is, to me, this is the kind of shit that QAnon was well known for, and that tried me insane, was like, see how he said this is only the beginning? There's more to this, and they're not just done after, there's that mean that JFK Jr. is the next, the next person that's going to be added to Trump's cabinet. Like, that's basically where we're going with this. Um, as this person says, a breaking RFK Jr. just announced that thing that I just said, remember, RFK Jr. was asked to touch his nose if JFK Jr. was still alive. Enjoy the movie, nothing can stop what's coming. So, there are people still holding on to that theory, and now, when I read it, I was like, I'm sure this is nothing, there's nothing here, and then I watched it, and I find it interesting. Um, pay really close attention to RFK, this is just him in an interview, and you'll see one of the comments there says, touch your nose if JFK Jr. is still alive. He immediately touches his nose. If this is a real video, he immediately touches his nose after that post is sent. Let me just try to lens a little better so you can see it. Um, stop. Oh, I need to see the comments to down here. There we go. All right. All right, Dave, here we go. This happens real fast, but you can see the comment there, touch your nose if JFK Jr. is alive. I think there might be another one posted right after it. You know, this body was, this is extraordinary on so many levels, the Deech memo, and this, this memo, all of the documents that are not in the public domain, and the Deech memo is one of those documents. It was a discovery document that was given to me. Look at that. Look at that. Huh. Come on now. Look at that. I don't know, Dave. Hi, bro. Listen, I will entertain anything, but I have to assume that this is doctored or that this is just, I can't, there's nothing that anybody could tell me right now, but they would make me believe that JFK Jr. is still alive. Well, like, we have that evidence right there, Dave, that very clear. You just told you, though, like, yeah, he said it out loud. You heard him. You saw it. No, dude, I listen, I know we want Michael Jackson and Tupac and Elvis and John Lennon all to be alive fucking chilling about talking somewhere on an island about how the government did them. Um, that's not, I'm not on that tip. There's nothing, there's no, there's no way that they could come out with that story and that'll never, why would it, I don't, like, I don't know that much about JFK Jr. I don't know, like, I'm sure this is going to be very offensive to say to, if anybody's tuning in for QAnon talk, but I don't know what the significance is of JFK Jr. If he is still alive, where has he been? Why has he been hiding? And what is it about now? What is it about? Oh, just because of Trump, he's going to now come out of the woodwork, but I don't buy that. Yeah, that's absurd. Um, if he was waiting around for something, was Trump planned all along and he's just been hiding so that he could be the weapon? Like, that doesn't make sense either. He was just like, "Yeah, shit sucks and I'm just going to lay low until maybe someday some billionaire comes out of, like, out of a hip hop episode of KIRP, like, MTV's Cribs or something, and he's going to come in and be the guy, and then I'll do it, but not the first time, and not after he loses the second election, the third time. I'm going to come out and I'm going to have, uh, my cousin touch his nose to, uh, that'll be the drop. That'll be it. Yeah, I just, I don't know, 25 years is a long time for a gag, um, and like you said, dude, yeah, but what? Oh, I didn't feel safe until Donald Trump, his second term. It's all different now. Yeah, now I'm good. During all the, uh, during all the, you know, court hearings and everything, I bet JFK Jr was just like, "Oh, come on Trump, come on, I missed it the first time, I'm not going to get a second chance here if you get locked up." There is nothing that could destroy the deep state more than a Kennedy coming back to life going down the line the whole time, bitches. Uh, that's just, that's great. I mean, everybody has a lot of questions at that point because it doesn't make sense for you to fake your death and then stay that way for, I mean, sure, if the CIA is after you and you manage to get away for 25 years, I guess, but, um, I don't know, I'm not buying it. Nah, he's dead just like the other Kennedys are dead. They put, they make sure that you're dead. Yeah. Which, does that, uh, make you trust RFK less because he's not dead? You know, I already trust him fairly little, but the other day I saw this clip from Whitney Webb, she's been always based, but keeping it extremely real right now. It was a clip, I don't know how old it was, but it was RFK talking about, I mean, it was definitely before he endorsed Trump because he was like, "Oh, Trump, um, plucking JD Vance is definitely him signaling to the intelligence agencies in the CIA that, that they're okay, that their gravy train will continue." Yeah. So he knows who JD Vance is, he knows about Palantir, he knows, you know, Peter Thiel and what these guys have been up to. So it's interesting that, like, again, like, we talked about the other day, he's, he seems like he knows he's doing the best thing, but he's definitely probably uncomfortable with some stuff, you know. Um, ideologically and maybe, you know, politically, who knows like what he's really getting into or what he has been into, but I'm not sure. Uh, that's a good question. So in all of this, do you think that, um, do you think that there is any queue out there? Do you think that there is somebody in power? Do you think that there is a savior? Not that they have it all figured out and they've got this elaborate plan to drop code to dudes on Reddit and their mom's basement and tell them about exactly how it's going to go down even though it doesn't, but like, is there somebody who is actually fighting for us? You know, like between the, the Tulsi Gabbards, the Donald Trump's, the RFK Juniors, the Chase Oliver's, of course. Um, or anybody, is there anybody that you feel is actually doing it for us? Or are they doing it for legacy at best? Or are they doing it for nefarious reasons? I don't think that there's anything that we're seeing out there really. That's like making mainstream news that is a legitimate effort on the behalf of some, you know, like unsung, unknown American heroes. But I do think that sprinkled throughout probably more than, I don't want to say the majority of them, but I'm sure there's a good amount of people who like believe the oath that they take. You know, when they get a job like, you know, within the federal government, you know, defend against enemies, foreign and domestic. Like, uh, so I'm talking mainly about people who are in the intelligence services. Like I'm sure that there are lots of good ones. I mean, Alex Jones has some good ones, right? My sources are telling me that he's had these guys giving him shit. Like, who knows? I don't know. Maybe there are some of the cute people, but, um, yeah, I don't think that we're going to hear a whole lot about that. I don't think that would be how, like, we take the system down to some, like, large-scale, unknown effort. Like, man, look what happened to Anonymous. Those guys, I used to think that they were like, like, cute, right? And it was just like, what a joke, probably an inside gig from the whole time. But even, no matter what, what they are right now is a fucking tool for the establishment. They're absolutely laughable. It's just propaganda. Yeah, so, you know, I try not to put any faith in these kinds of things, or even put my, like, I don't want to go into any of their groups in chat, or I don't want anybody to try and fed post me or bring me into any shit. I'm unaffiliated. Well, here's, um, I just pulled up some, I was looking for the clip of Alex Jones saying he knows Q, but, um, I'm not sure what this is, but, uh, Dr. Russell McGregor says, Alex Jones brags that Q is real. He admits Q is an operation of Patriots at the highest level of intelligence. He also says Infowars initially promoted Q. This means Real Alex Jones has knowingly demonized a non's for strategic purpose. He knows disclosure is coming. So apparently we're holding on to that. Um, let's just see. This is a short clip. And again, I know all the inside baseball folks. I don't try to sit a prim rag about this stuff, but I talked to Republican leadership. I, I talked to the Patriots. They're in intelligence, the highest levels. And, um, they tried to recruit me when Trump first got in to officially work in their operation. And I respectfully declined. I said, I want to work on my own. Uh, and I just, it's just too cloak and dagger. I had to be separate from government. But they, they, I was involved in the first launching of Q. And again, I know all the info. Whoa, whoa, what? What? Did you, is that, that's it. That's the end right there. Um, so now we, if I'm understanding this correctly, we now have Alex Jones in the past saying, I know Q, I'm going to get him on the show. Trust me, I know him. He never came on. Um, shockingly. And then eventually, uh, which I can, I'm sure I can find these. Alex Jones, like railing against Q because Q got everybody into this mess and it's all fake and you guys need to stop it. Um, and now it sounds like he's saying that he was offered a job and he was part of the launch of Q. Whatever that means. And according to this guy, that means disclosure is coming. Uh, I don't think that that's what that means. But, uh, it does seem like there is a part of me that wonders if they're going to try and resurrect this thing. And, uh, if so, how we should be looking at it. I think, I think people need to go back and do some digging on like some of the Q posts from the past or some of the, the claims from the past that some of them could arguably have come to pass if you twist this or that or read into something. And, uh, a whole lot of it that seemed to be flagrantly incorrect was flagrantly incorrect. Much like, uh, a lot of what Alex Jones says. But if he's, if he's going back, which I'm not entirely sure that that's what this is, if he's going back to, hey, actually this was a thing. And, uh, I'm saying that because I helped start it and I knew the guy. I told you, uh, right after I talked to the government and told him I want to stay out of the government, Q started. And like, I don't know. It's, uh, David muted. It reminds me of how, uh, Tucker Carlson in college like tried to be a member of the CIA and he talks about that. But, uh, unfortunately, I just didn't have what it takes. On to the next story though. Like, so you know that there's, there's like a literal paper, paper trail of you like trying to, and he says, he tried to apply to multiple agencies. Um, so I just think that that's interesting that like, okay, now you got this group of guys in 2024 who were like the heroes of the anti establishment movement. But they definitely have ties to the establishment. Right. That's it's like, but if you're talking about Tucker or Elon or Alex or Alex Jones being a fan. Yeah. Yeah, see, that's when you kind of lose me again, bro. I think those guys are both. We all have our lines. I know. All right. I want to, I want to believe you. But here's another take from Alex Jones. I mean, I mean, look, I love you Adam. Did you hear what I just said in the lead up to that? What did I say to you right before you responded back with? Yeah, I know somebody was giving out that information. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm a little nervous. I might have. No, no, no, it's okay. It's okay. You understand that we lost the cut free because of Q. Yes, sir. And I have to put up with the Q people all over the place. And I'm tired of it. So I'm not mad at you, but you just hit a button here. And the damn Q people were the ones that manipulated some people to go into the damn capital and worked with the feds. Not too bad. Q is the worst people on earth at the top. Q is the new world order. Q is a scottop to lead us around bar noses. Oh, okay. Uh huh. Ah, see, dude, you've already done the research. You lived it. Now you can give us the AM. I'm just like, I'm remembering this right, right? Like, you can't go back and forth that much on a thing. And I haven't kept up with that much with Alex Jones. And that clip, that first clip of Alex Jones seemingly being more like back pedaling and going more in favor of Q again. Um, I wasn't familiar with that until like right before we got on here. So I'm not entirely sure and I want to do some more digging. But I think it's definitely something to keep in mind as this whole justice league of the Kennedy or not the Kennedy's. Kennedy and Tulsi and Trump and all this, like, it feels like another setup. Like another, yep, this is the big one. This is what we've, the moment we've all been waiting for. And I, I don't know if that's going to happen. Maybe the uni party is creating the uni party. Like maybe they're doing away with the trickery of, let's, America doesn't need political parties. Like we're just born America. And we just, we're all just mega and we're all, yeah, we're all, whatever this new thing is that all these people are a part of. This is absolutely possible. So keep your eyes open. Even if, like, look, they're saying lots of good stuff. I just, I retweeted another piece of Trump's content on Twitter because it was him and Tulsi and RFK. And the main, it was, all they were talking about throughout the whole thing was peace, prosperity over no war. Like all the stuff that's what you want to hear. That's what I'm looking for from anybody. Red me. But not just, not just red meat though. Like, dude, I've never seen certainly the Republican party say that in my lifetime. You've never heard the Republican party like directly call out Neocon's by, like, by name. Right. Dude, I, I can't. But I cut my teeth on George W. Bush. Like, he triggered me. He, so I came in, like, knowing that these Neocon pieces of trash were, you know, enemies of mankind. So obviously, learned my lesson. It's not just, you know, does single that to a part one single party. But it's really cool to see no bushes and romneys and channies at the RNC. Like, I think that that, I feel like that has to mean something unless it's just, bro. Mafia faction after mafia faction fighting for shit. This family is about to die out. So whatever's taken over and they might actually be worse than the other one like down the road. I don't know. But you're certainly saying the things I want to hear. And like our buddy Dylan was saying earlier today, dude, as long as like their pump is, if the public is getting that message, if the public is getting, hey, this is your country, you know, like, keep it. You have a lot of good, you know, liberty. Give us that shit. Feed us the Constitution. Give us the Bill of Rights. Give me the Fox News talking points. Make sure that that's what's being thought to be. And if you don't believe it, keep putting it out there, please. And we will encourage you to keep putting it out there. Even if we don't trust you as you're putting it out there, keep putting it out there. And we'll keep clipping it and sharing it with everybody to show that everybody agrees, right? Everybody agrees we shouldn't have or don't Trump said that. Everybody agrees we should free Ross, right? Don't Trump even said that, right? Doesn't mean we trust him. Let me see. Let me see one more. We are doing some, this might be more what we deal with. With Thursdays is some of these on the fly things. Because I do want to dig a little bit into some of these, the history of Alex Jones and Cunon. Not that I have a lot pulled up here, but stuff's coming to mind and it seems like it might be relevant. Then Flynn, and I've had dinner with him and talked about this. Flynn tried to go in and say, "Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, cute." And then so he could try to lead it to get out and vote and be motivated and be involved. That was good. Hell, I told Flynn. At lunch once, I said, "Listen, just there is no real cue. You're the most senior person out there who knows how this stuff works. Why don't you just come out and say, "I am cute now?" At the best we've gotten, very mixed messaging from Alex Jones. Yeah, and I'm curious to see where this goes. I want to be surprised if it came back to some degree, but it was spun into some sort of other organization, some other name that tries to play off the same thing, which would make it even less trustworthy. But you know how all the projects in the government of MK Ultra and stuff that come back is like, "Operation, don't feel bad no more or think smart." There's always a rebrand when something starts getting called out. So I would imagine that if some flavor of QAnon resurfaces or comes back, it'll probably have a wink and a nod to the last life, but it'll probably have a new skin suit on. What do you think, Dave? I don't know, probably my opinions have shifted a lot over the past year and a couple years. If I had to guess, bro, it's probably a massage job. That's my guess, is that that's probably coming from over there. Could be wrong. Could be wrong. But I think they're probably we're doing our hoots anyway. Yeah, well, why isn't, I don't know, this is crazy all the Alex Jones stuff. And when I said I was an Alex Jones guy, I came up on Alex Jones. So I wasn't listening to a lot if any during the Trump years. In fact, I remember that really pissing me off. He's redeemed. That's kind of where I fell off. But just like Jordan Peterson, fucking up right now, but I learned a lot from you, so I appreciate it. Same for Alex Jones. But that's real fishy. First clip, yeah. Oh, I was at the inception and when we created Q, I was there for that. And they tried to hit me to be a deep part of it. And I was like, nah, I want to stay on the outside. And then the next clip is like, these people who created Q are giving. She's destroying this country. Yes. Destroying this country. Right. And then the next one. Ah, so I'm not the lunch with General Flynn. He's been like, you know, kind of riding this Q thing. And I'm all like, well, why don't you just tell people your Q? Right. Are you guys caught up to speed? Like, this is very shady behavior, but he's telling us this. Again, I didn't have Alex Jones on the list of things to talk about today. I just pulled it up and it's there. It's not hard to find it. If you want these weren't even the clips that I was looking for because the clip that I was looking for, he said I was going to have Q on the show the other day, but I didn't. And like he said that multiple times. I remember vividly watching it as it happened and still know Q, but Q destroyed the country. Q was not real. He had something to do with it. Back and forth. This is your guy, y'all. Not mine. It's fine. Speaking of people in Skinsuits, here's Nancy Pelosi. Dave, let me know if you think she's saying the quiet part too out loud. They didn't know what they were talking about. We know our work different from the president. We're very discreet. Reptilian, cold blooded. These are the places we have to win. Others are winning the whole country. Ten. Discrete reptilian people that Nancy Pelosi, we're not like the other boys and girls. Because we're wearing the Skinsuit for real. We're cold blooded killers. And this is all a metaphor. You know that because I said it on TV. They say the quiet part out loud, bro. They do a lot of signaling too. I feel like this way. Kate Middleton, when she had -- I'm sure she's not -- you can't just go to the press. Can't just do interviews, whatever. You're married to the prince or whatever. When she got -- I wonder how -- I can't imagine when it was a mistake or a coincidence. But when she had her baby, the possible antichrist, she wore the same outfit that Roman Polanski did and what was the movie with the little satanic kid. It was a baby that turned out to be whatever, like the spawn of Satan. But she wore the same exact outfit. Yes, that was it. Comes out in the same exact outfit. I feel like maybe that was her trying to tell you what's going on. Or maybe -- I don't know. But yeah, lots of stuff on the sly. They put it out there like that and kind of let you know what they're up to. They seem to. And it's not a great idea to just completely break the flow of conversation. But I'm going to because there's something else that happened in the world this week and there's going to be a lot of scattered things throughout this. Something happened just yesterday actually, that I found quite amusing. Dave, you're familiar with -- and my lovely wife of love that I'm going to defend the band Lincoln Park. But you're familiar with the band Lincoln Park, yes? You know, they were the top rock band in the country at one point. I am familiar. I sat across the cafeteria table from Chester Bennington one time. We did Project Revolution not to brag on there for three weeks, met all the bands. All the bands that you love. Take them back Sunday. Maybe you've heard of them? Not Dave. My chemical romance. There they go. I hate you. Now, yes, there is a bunch of conspiracy stuff around Chester Bennington that we can get into because we are a little bit more lax here in the Thursdays. But did you dig into any of the Chester Bennington is secretly John Podesta's son and shit? Mmm. I saw that. Yeah. That's -- that's red meat for me. I was like, "Oh, they actually do look like them." Yeah. Everybody who kills himself is always trying to expose pedophile rings immediately after they die. But nobody heard about it before they died. And then suddenly everybody's like, "Well, it's because of this." And I would like to believe that that's true. But I will need evidence, which is where you guys command. Dan@tsidpod.com. If you've got evidence, I would happily look into that sometime. But yeah, for now, this is apropos of nothing. Lincoln Park is just still doing something or not doing something. The only reason why I bring this up isn't because they are -- if they just put out a new album, it probably wouldn't come up on this show. But they did something that I really enjoyed, which was troll the fuck out of everybody because Lincoln Park had -- so the other day they posted some cryptic shit on their Twitter and they were like, "Hey, go to lincolnpark.com for a thing." And then you go to lincolnpark.com and it was a countdown timer from -- I don't know what it started at, but it was at least a day-long timer. And I imagine there were a lot of dorks sitting there just watching this timer, waiting for something to happen. Actually, I know that there were because they've pointed out that it glitched at 9 minutes and 15 seconds and at 9 minutes and 5 seconds it glitched. And they're getting really QAnon with the Lincoln Park stuff, which, from a marketing perspective, I find brilliant and fascinating and great. So they're like looking through these codes and everything. And then it finally gets down to the end of the timer. Dave, did you see what happened at the end of the timer by chance? No. I don't know who this is, but they watched the countdown to the end and here's their reaction to it. So it gets to zero. Glitches? And it just starts counting back up. Oh, just beautiful. And to my knowledge, it's still counting up now, a couple of day or two later. No, I don't know. At least he's okay about it. Good hearted about it. Who knows what all the other very depressed Lincoln Park fans, how they're taking this, but I'm going to look up the website and see what's going on now. Oh, we're at 26 hours and 22 minutes and still counting up. Oh, it says, "Be a part of something September 5th." So the QAnon people, in this case, were right. Something is happening on September 5th. They did catch those glitches in those subtle hints, but yes. I just found it to be a great troll and it somehow worked in with the QAnon stuff quite well that everybody was right. The only things, the praise conspiracy theories that I saw, I saw the dude from 741 is going to take the place, or the dude from this is going to take the place, whatever. The dude from 741 just came out and he was like, "No, that's not happening." How are you doing that? I have a book coming out while you're here, if you'd like to go buy it. Yeah, I guess September 5th is the case. Dear QAnon folk, who has been more accurate in their noticing of clues and predictions, is it Linkin Park fans when they noticed a number that had actual significance it would seem, or is it you who lost an election? Anyway, not to completely alienate my base, because I love the national treasure folks of modern day. I love you, and I like that you are that into it, because it gave content to my show. At the very least, even if you were getting duped, I was there with you. Yeah, that'd be great. By the way, if I haven't been clear about that, I'm not fucking with people who might have, if you got red-pilled around that time around Trump, I could totally understand how that would bring you in. I'm not even saying that I just don't know enough about it. I'm sure that there was some true shit that came out of that. But these are our people. That's what I'm getting at. If you were down with that, we're all searching for the truth. It's all good, and we're all in it together. If it's true, I am down. Tell the truth. Yeah, if it's true, convince me. I'm all for it. But if it keeps proving to be incorrect, maybe just check the source and see if they're trustworthy. Are they telling you the full truth and nothing but the truth? Or are they telling you six lies with one truth that keeps you stringing along like I feel like Alex Jones has done over the years? Again, not to besmirch Bill Hicks or anything. I love the guy. No, but dude, this is a good... Was he right on QAnon or was he wrong on QAnon? Because you can't be right until the complete opposite of the thing. Sorry, go ahead. No, no, no. It's getting harder to tell and harder to... Let's say this. If the Donald Trump, RFK, Tulsi, Tucker, Alex Jones, Elon connection is a deep state plot, we're fucked. That's fucking crazy. Because they are. It's becoming such a big thing. Everything is getting pulled into it. Like, Luke Radowski, who's been shoving his microphone in Tyrant's faces for the better part of 20 years, is like, he's friends with these people, or friendly with these people. So Clint and Dave, like these people are cool with some of the best dissonant names in the game. So hopefully, dude, they're not all part of a deep state plot. That would be great. That would... Yeah, I mean, it is the blessing and the curse of people, I guess. It was the countercultural, like, lack of trust for the system that got us to the point of being like Alex Jones isn't an evil Nazi or whatever. But then it kept going if we kept paying attention. Like, he's a human and he can make mistakes, but things like QAnon, it's like, how am I supposed to trust you? Because you said both. You said two very polar opposite things, very intensely, and what am I supposed to do with that? Because you knew the guy, and you knew that it was General Flynn, and you knew that you were going to have him on, and then you didn't know the guy, and the guy tore the country apart. And now you might know the guy, I don't know. I don't know. You weren't telling the truth at some point. You couldn't have been. Sorry. Now, back to RFK a little bit, because RFK is, you know, per the title of this episode. RFK is being held hostage, Dave, have you heard? I have not heard that, but that makes a good sense. RFK is being held hostage. I feel like RFK is being held hostage by a lot of people, but mostly he's being forced to be on the ballots that he has chosen not to be on. You know, the, well, so that, okay, from Johnny Maga, I have to get ahead of myself. This Michigan's Secretary of State, Jocelyn Benson, she's refusing to remove RFK Jr. from the ballot after he suspended his campaign and endorsed Trump. She's also the woman that sought to remove Cornell West, who hurts Kamala from the ballot. She is a complete partisan hack. Now, this video clip I've seen going around, I can't tell, Dave, maybe you can. I'm not the smartest of men. I don't know what she's talking about if this is something current or if this is just something that they pulled up to be like, "See, this is the type of woman she is to go along with the fact that she's doing this thing." I don't know if there is a clip of her saying that she's going to force RFK to stay on the ballot, but what do you make of this? If someone were to violate the law and not certify the election at the local level, we will come for you. So, any local certifier thinking of scurting the law and not certifying the vote, don't even think about it. I assume this is about Trump, like saying that when Trump doesn't get the vote, we will come for you if you don't certify the election, if you question the election type thing. So, I'm pretty sure that's a throwback clip, but yeah. Nice woman, she seems like a good person, but it turns out she is one of several states that is not putting up with Kennedy's decision to remain on state ballots in states where it will hurt Kamala and not stay on state ballots where it will potentially help Kamala or split the vote. And to explain that further, we do have Nicole Shanahan just went on Dave Smith's show. That's a good face from Dave. Thank you, Dave. But yeah, let's get it from her first. Like, once we endorsed Trump and suspended our campaign and ended, they've actually since doubled down on us because we're trying to remain on some of the ballots. Our agreement was we would bow out of battleground states. And you want to hear something really crazy? Sure. They won't let us pull out now withdrawal from certain ballots because they think that us being in hurts Trump more now. They finally caught up to the numbers. That's really nice. I read something about this. And I was like, is this real? They're actually fighting against you guys pulling off the ballots because they think that hurts them. That is really something. Shut up, Dave. We were told to believe that this would never work. This strategy could never work when Angela said it basically against or not against, but in favor of Chase Oliver. We were supposed to believe that this was not a smart political strategy, but now we have the Democrats doing it. I'm not saying that they're any smarter in doing it because it's not, I don't think it's a good look when you just tried, you know, tooth and nail to keep Kennedy off the ballot for the last six months. And now you're like, bitch, you're staying. You're ours now. You're staying here. Bro. Go ahead. This is all, remember the other day we watched that clip with Quentin Tarantino? Yeah. All the talking and all the fluff and all the show is just all bullshit. All in act is only a power struggle. And that is exactly what is being exposed here by that iron box lady who we were just watching before this clip. When they can use you for their own good, they will. And when they can hurt you the other way for their own ends, they will do that too. So, no, I'll file this under not shocked at all. And it's funny, though, to watch the kind of parallels that our third party and this third option is going through. Because usually that's what you come down to is like, you just discover that you might have all of the like idealistic, you know, pure intentions, and you might have the philosophy or whatever down. But at the end of the day, your little party or your little candidacy compared to like the whole shit show, the whole storm, you are a part of that ecosystem. You can't just exist outside of it. So like you can't decide that they won't use you like that. You can't decide that the libertarian party can't decide that it won't be used by Republican and Democratic, hatchet men and women for their own ends. You can go in with blind eyes and assume that you can use them back is to use them in reverse. Look, Quentin Tarantino is correct. Quentin Tarantino is correct. This is politics. Do not confuse that with your libertarian philosophy or like your passionate issue or whatever. If you want to play politics, it is about power and power alone. And all the other shit is just is Dan Smats propaganda. And on the idea of using them back, well, so amazing that, you know, we live in a time where somebody like a Dave Smith can have a Nicole Shanahan on and be like, hey, you are, you know, a stone. You are the running mate or you were the running mate of this Kennedy guy who is now like allegedly pretty close to Trump and who's probably allegedly going to be the next president of the United States. We've got the ear of the ear of the ear at the very least, which is more than Joe Jorgensen had, seems like more than Chase Oliver currently has. So politics be damned in the sense of actual running. Dave Smith has got somebody who's got the ear of somebody who's got the ear of Donald Trump on standby to discuss things like this. But it's not as if like the battle isn't over after election day. It's like, no matter what happens, whether Trump wins or Harris wins or whatever happens, it's like, that's not the end of it. It's not as if even if Bobby Kennedy had won the presidency, it's not just like, all right, job done. That's it. He got it. It's like, no, now is actually the beginning of all of this. And there's going to be a lot of different, I think, elements that will be needed if we were to ever restore sanity in this country or just get us not headed off a cliff. But no question, I mean, like, I think there's going to have to be wealthy people who put their money where their mouth is and put, you know what I mean? Like, it doesn't work without that. But also, you're going to need pressure from the people on whoever the president is. You know, like, if we really do want to take on some of these incredibly entrenched powerful special interests, you're going to need a citizenry that has, like, constant pressure on the political class. So it's good. It's not just even about this campaign. It's about the future of the country. And like, I do think that between, like, with the Maha and the MAGA people, it's like, if they can be, like, kind of laser focused on some of these important issues, we're going to need that. And beyond just any presidential election cycle. Now, before she responds, I do want to get to her response, but before she responds, I got to say that that, keep in mind what that setup was. That premise was basically just coalition building. There are some things that we ran, some things that we disagree on. And this is not how politics has typically worked, but we can do that. And it seems like we're doing that. It seems like we're going that direction. He had talked about a couple of issues earlier on, just kind of in passing. I think it's important to note that this is not a result of him asking a question about a certain topic. He's just saying coalition building and the first topic out of her mouth based on the very brief time that it was even mentioned. Like it was mentioned earlier on in the conversation where he just said, like, your supporters, the Kennedy supporters, the Shanahan supporters. They've been the most respectful, even aside from like the DeSantis ones, the Kamala ones, obviously, even the Donald Trump ones are not nearly as respectful and as open minded and as willing to listen to a conversation as the Kennedy supporters were. So he's given them a bit of an olive branch there. And he briefly mentioned this next topic, but that is about a half hour ago at this point. And the first topic that she brings up is this. Yeah, most definitely. And, you know, my next hope is that those people that are upset about Gaza, for which I am also upset about what's going on in Gaza. This is a big issue that we can, and I think this is achieved best if we fix our role as America and what America's role is in all of this to find it. I think Thomas Massey has done a really good job talking about how you can be, you can be pro America and put America first and you don't have to pick a side between Israel and Palestine. And that actually lends to great strength as an American, especially if you're an independent minded American. There is a potential for a two state solution. She sounds like if Kamala Harris knew anything. She sounds like if the Democrats were still saying stuff that wasn't corporate sponsored, like just what Democrats are supposed to say. That's what Democrats are supposed to say. Sure, it's still a pretty safe answer. I'll say, but again, it's not even an answer. She's bringing this up on her own. And she's like, I know that that's an issue that you guys have with Kennedy. And I would like to address that and say, I'm not sure. I think that we need to do its best for America and figure it out. Like, if there's any value to the whole MAGA movement, it should be to make America the focus of tax dollars that are being stolen from people. Not just like, this is so great. Yeah, just pushing. She knows what the conversation is. She knows what the criticism is. It doesn't even have to be said. But that's been our biggest issue with Kennedy, obviously. And who else is even asking the question? Dave has already had Kennedy on to to rag him on. And that's what came up earlier. And now for her to just be like, okay, we get it. We get it. We can't ignore this anymore. I think it's great. Yeah. And there's this Kennedy was talking about it too. He's like, this seems to be like a, it's built into the to the MAGA alliance. If you will, like, I don't, they don't have to agree with each other on all shit. And that's, they make that known. He said it. Like, yo, I'm on, I'm on the Trump team right now, but like, that doesn't mean that we agree with everything. Every, I know this is the heart of like, coalitioning. But that's cool that Nicole Shanahan is out there going. Now that, hey, all right, I'm not your vice presidential running mate. I mean, I guess technically she still is, but she's like a free agent now. You know, I'm on your team, but I'm going to go say the stuff that I want to say. Yeah. I'm on your team on this, this and this. And we disagree on the other things. And that's fine. Yeah. Or maybe they're black. Thanks. Maybe they're right. Maybe they're black mailing you, but they're not black mailing me. So I'm going to go say this on Dave Smith show, you know, I think that that's really, really cool. She's even said stuff like, oh, yeah, hundreds of people emailed me and told us that we're being duped by Trump. It's like, yeah, I hear you, but no, I don't, I think it's worth it. I think it's worth what they're just not out there parroting stuff or like, you know, waving flags. I think that it's just a good sign, dude. Yeah. Well, when the whole Gaza thing kicked off, Kennedy had the shit take and everybody was like, oh, great, great. And that's been a big criticism. And it has like, it hasn't been brought up by almost anybody except for Dave Smith to like, we haven't heard Kennedy talk about it and his speeches all that much. We haven't heard Nicole Shanahan. We haven't heard them go out and be like, Rara Israel or anything. And it was brought up in a bit of a contentious back and forth between Dave and Bobby. And now, like, for them to be to the point where it's like, yeah, we're not even really politicians anymore. We're just having a conversation and we have some influence here. And I just want you to know that to some extent, we're not completely in disagreement on this. We think that some things are fucked up here. Let's start there and go from there. And now he's not a politician necessarily, but he is because, you know, he'll still say what he's got to say because if you throw it back a little bit, R.K. Jr. said, just to go out in his speculation. Under no circumstances will I join Donald Trump on an electoral ticket? Our position on certain fundamental issues are approaches to governance and our philosophies of leadership could not be further apart. Fundamentally issues, approaches to governance and philosophies of leadership could not be further apart, which that is extremely vague. And he gave zero examples of what his differences are, but yeah, yeah. But he said the same thing. He said he wouldn't join him on a ticket, which he has not. He got JD Vance to join a ticket. And Vance did kind of the same thing, called him like the American Hitler or whatever. So it's like, do you, I don't know, does it make you trust these people more because they changed their mind and they decided to eat a little bit of crow to do what's right for the country? Is that what it is? Or is it, is it Nikki Haley saying, yeah, I completely hate your guts and I wish you would die, but I will do it for the job. I believe Bobby Kennedy, when he said that bringing on JD Vance with signal signals to the intelligence community that you're going to be just fine. If you leave us alone, we'll leave you alone. That's how you say that without saying it. Who said that Kennedy? Kennedy said that. Yeah, Kennedy said that Vance was a signal that they would play it, that Trump would play it safe. I don't hear this clip. I think this is on my Twitter page, but yeah, something to the effect of. Yes, this is signaling to them that their gravy train will not stop. Like you'll be fine. We'll leave you alone. We're bringing your guy in. And dude, honestly, I think this has always been their move. I think that's what they did with Mike Pence. I think he was a deep-stay guy that they brought in. For the perfect man as bad as a Mike Pence? No, not on cultural stuff. If you mean by as bad as, like he's not boring. He's not like a complete, I mean, I don't know enough about it. Flies don't fall asleep on his forehead. Right, and he's a younger guy, he's probably, you know, whatever, cooler with, you know, gen or whatever. Yeah, I need to do more digging into Vance, because he's got a lot of things that I find enticing, but I don't know that much about him. Look, I'm really trying to keep an open mind, because I don't, like I said, I don't want this to be the awful conspiracy that it could be. But I'm listening to Peter Teal right now on Rogan. But Rogan brings in spooks all the time. So, but I'm trying to, I want these guys not to be evil villains. You know, but it's, but man, there's just like a little bit, like there's always a little bit with Elon, or with Tucker, or with Alex Jones, Or with, there's always that one out of six to ten things, like ten good, one bad, six good, one bad. You guys stay lots of cool stuff, but it looks like the bad ones are really like, yeah, it just, it makes me not able to get fully on board with anybody. That's all, like I'm down with the six things, keep saying them, and I'll keep promoting them. And the one things, the one out of the six, I'm going to keep saying, but also that thing, what the fuck's going on with that thing? But, and that's why we don't have a following, but J.C. is a big super chat to some people who, to some people who woke up in 2015, Trump was there on Paul, and I get that. Like, you did, you weren't paying attention at all, and then somebody was finally saying something different. And even Michael Moore said the same thing, you're going to vote for him, and it's going to feel good because he's talking to you. I'm beginning to think that the news isn't telling me the truth, I mean, that's great. I mean, I wasn't that much ahead of that curve, like I missed the Ron Paul days, unfortunately I had a Ron Paul sticker on my laptop, but I didn't know anything about him. I didn't know anything about libertarianism, then Donald Trump made me go, "What's politics all about?" And I was like, "Oh, that's what politics are all about." And then started getting more obsessed with this shit than is healthy for anybody to do, so I don't recommend it. But, yeah, it's a lot in in such a short time. We're doing good, dude. Thanks, I'm trying. Now, let's see what else we've got here. Oh, we've got Ben Stiller endorsing Kamala Harris and being questioned on why. Let's get this nugget here, just for the fun of it. Quick question, why you came and what you like about Harris' platform? Just very excited about moving forward and all the energy and excitement that's around this movement right now. Let's move on here, because it's time for change and it seems like it's happening. You think she'll be able to sustain the momentum post-convention? For sure. You think the ratio should be close, but everybody's motivated to get close. Yeah, sure to be close, of course, of course. She'll definitely take it. Ben Stiller strikes me as somebody who does not give a single shit about politics and just takes paycheck and says as little as possible to get by. He'll show up at the thing and be like, "Yeah, she's got a lot of excitement and I'm here for change. What am I supposed to say? I don't know. I just want to go make my movie and please don't cancel me for Tropic Thunder." Which is something that comes up at least once a year. But yeah, for him to be like, "I'm just ready for change." So I decided that the person who is in office right now should stay in office because of change. Dave, you're frozen, change. I don't know. I haven't been good now. You're back. That's just the audacity of the guy. The incumbent, the woman who essentially, if the guy who's checked out either meant to be or something. I'm ready for something new. Just like the old. Right, right, right. We need some change. It's the exact person who's been there. It's the change we need. That's right. Now, Dave, I don't have a lot of structure here. I've got several more things, but you heard about this Kamala Harris interview that's finally happening. The famed interview, I'm calling it. I've dubbed it last night. The Kamala Harris' big girl interview, because that's what we do around here now. Joe Biden had his big boy press conference. Now, Kamala Harris is finally doing her big girl interview, but also in her big girl interview, she has decided that she needs to do it with Dana. Dana, what's her name? Dana Lash? Dana Bash. Dana Bash. Who cares? Dana, I was working entirely for your campaign, and I will give you the most softball interview ever. They're going to pre-record it. It's not going to be live. You can't do it on the fly. Also, she's bringing a wingman of Tim Walls to sit in and fill in any of the gaps that she might have. People are not happy with it. People that were somehow allowed to speak on CNN. Is the line now going to be, well, why isn't she doing it by herself? Yeah, I do think people are going to bring that up. Look, I have great confidence in Dana and CNN to do this. I think it's incredibly weak. Weak sauce to show up with your running mate. The fact that they don't have enough confidence in her to let her sit herself, the actual top of the ticket, and do a single interview. In fact, I think the hand-ring and the gyrations over this, over the last month, are some of the most troubling lack of confidence in her political ability, which also makes you wonder as a voter, well, what kind of president would you be? If this kind of a small time decision, can we do an interview or not? What does that look like for your decision-making process, so on? Yes, I think Republicans are going to think it's pretty weak to show up with effectively someone to take up half the time. Weak. Weak. And he's not wrong. I mean, let's not pretend like this is any different than Joe Biden. The only difference is Joe Biden wouldn't dare bring his vice president to help him, even though he couldn't physically speak. He still wouldn't bring the vice president along to help him fill in the gaps. Oh, well, he wants the microphone. No, this is what the Libertarian Party did with Bill Weld. Always put him next to Gary, because Gary was fucking high off his rocker. Sure. So you got to put the Neocon next to him so that he can give Hillary Clinton a wink and a nod when CNN invites them on. There he is. I've got him ready. He's on the list for today. Have you heard the latest from former Libertyan candidate for vice president, Bill Weld? So another Republican, this comes from an anonymous source. We won't say who it is. Another Republican is putting country over party. Donald Trump, I don't have a Bill Weld impersonation. I wasn't doing this at the time, otherwise I would. I've heard him speak ever since, just like Gary Johnson and Joe Jorgensen. He says, "Donald Trump alongs nowhere near the White House. With democracy hanging in the balance in this election, I'm standing with Kamala Harris to defeat Donald Trump and his attacks on our democratic institutions. Donald Trump doesn't represent moderate Republicans' safe beliefs in freedom, democracy and the Constitution. Former Governor Bill Weld. I also think it is funny to mention who this comes from, because it is our good boy Joshua Reed Ekel fed to the stars. And he's calling, he's using this as a win because he's voting for Kamala Harris as a very principal libertarian. He's voting for Kamala Harris based on absolutely nothing. And he's like, "Here's another Republican who is putting country over party and voting for Kamala Harris." It doesn't even mention that he was the libertarian vice president who candidate and also that he's been a shit Republican who voted for Hillary Clinton and pushed for Hillary Clinton when she was on the ticket against the guy that he was running with. This is our Republican example of the guy that, see, since Bill Weld is a, not even a libertarian, again, Republican, and he's voting for Kamala. That means Kamala good. Oh, God, it's, it's amazing. Unbelievable, bro. That though, that's a total, total white pill. And that, that lends credibility to me that Donald Trump, there's something good about that campaign or whatever. Like if you are, if you are and Bill Weld is anti you, we know who Bill Weld is. Bill Weld is deep state. Bill Weld is Raytheon. Bill Weld is Hillary Clinton. We know who he is. We know who Joshua Reid equal is and what he represents. You don't even have to know if he's a Fed or not because you know what his actions are. They're fed like. So like we know what you are all about. So if you're that upset about Trump, not only does it make me want to do for him because it will feel good, but it, but shit like that makes me think that like, oh, I'm actually doing something good because you're so awful. Like, um, that's encouraging, I'll say. Yeah. Yeah. And we will have a little bit more libertarian news toward the end because we've got a couple chasing cops to get to. Of course we do, but before we do that, I want to give you guys. So Kamala Harris is doing this interview. She's doing this big girl interview with a wingman. And here is the latest from Kamala Harris's wingman for her one and only interview so far. I think we need to push back on this. There's, there's no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or, or hate speech and especially around our democracy. I. Libertarians rally around the, I don't think there's a guarantee to free speech. If it's disinformation or hate speech, that's a completely different thing from free speech. Now, if there is any value to having free speech in our country, it is specifically and only for unpopular and not savory opinions. If everybody agrees, then we don't need to have free speech because we're all in agreement that Kamala Harris is amazing. Now, if, if disinformation is outlawed by Tim Walz as he seems to want, that means that lying is outlawed, lying is a crime now. Not even lying, not even just lying. You can just be wrong about a thing and it can be a crime. You can think that, that something is, is not what it is. You can legitimately think that and go to jail because you, you have shared that disinformation with the world and Tim Walz believes that if you are wrong, you should be in jail. If you think wrong, wrong think. This is bringing any bells, y'all. Wrong think should be jailed and we're seeing it in, you know, Great Britain and all around the world at Canada, certainly and other countries Australia, where wrong think is now becoming a thing. It is not Orwellian. It is current and modern mainstream opinions to think that if you, you know, if you, if you think racist thoughts or if you notice the differences in different groups of people or if you, you know, say that January 6th was not exactly what the mainstream media tells you or, you know, the monkeypox vaccine or throw back to whatever other vaccines. If you, if you're wrong, Joe Rogan should be in jail right now. According to Tim Walz. That's the libertarian guy for you. Yeah, I mean, dude, this is terrifying. We've already, we played the videos on these shows from UK and I'm sure, you know, New Zealand has done similar stuff, Australia. But like, that's, make no, make, make no mistake. That's what they want to do here. Surely. That's why it's so important that like. It's not a conspiracy theory. He said it on the news. Like he said it in a minute. And look, when Donald Trump comes out and goes, I'm going to throw somebody in jail for a year for burning a flag because it's the American flag and I love it. Let me hug it. So that's terrifying. Hey, speech, speech against our beautiful, a beautiful flag. We don't want him to do that. Here's the, so I get what you're saying. If you were like, oh, look, they're both sides are enemies of free speech. Okay. Fair point. But at least Donald Trump will listen to you. You can't get Kamala Harris on the horn. I'm saying, and I think he wants to. Kennedy couldn't get Kamala Harris on the horn. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. former Democrat. But it's like family. But if, if Palsy Gabbard and Elon and Tucker and RFK are sitting with Trump, going, okay, man, we all love America. That's why we're here. But let me explain why you can't throw somebody in jail and why that's bad. That's a bad precedent that will enable your enemies. Somebody needs to explain that to them. And there's a much greater chance of that happening than Kamala Harris does not give a fuck. As Vivek pointed out on Twitter earlier, she is not a communist. Stop calling her that. That's like when the left calls everybody in Nazi. Stop doing that. That's why she's not a communist. She's not a communist. She's not a capitalist. Poor who will say whatever it takes. Whatever it takes. That's what she's saying. She's a politician skin suit. She is a reptilian. It doesn't matter what her skin color is because it's not real. She is green on the inside. So she might be pushing some DEI and some communist stick, fascist stick, you know, stuff, but that's only because it benefits her right now. Just like the open borders slash build the wall rhetoric that we've gotten from her and all cops and also we need more cops. Like it's no different. It's much worse than Alex Jones because it is all these all of these people are doing is saying whatever is convenient at the time. Nobody is telling the truth. Nobody is just saying the thing at the time. And that's been my biggest. If not only complaint with Donald Trump is that it's not just the thing at the moment and being honest about it. Now, I did want to play this clip from the DNC. Once again, perhaps somebody saying the quiet part too loud. We got 70 days to act right, y'all. Sorry. Now it's seven days. We can go back down crazy. Right? That's it. Thank you. I did not see that. That's great. Listen, you guys got to fucking cut it up for the next second. We're going to go back to nuts when Donald Trump wins this thing. Don't you worry. But we just got to get through this to in hope that it's not Donald Trump because Donald Trump doesn't let us go nuts as much. Dude, listen, it doesn't help that it's a panel of all black dudes. I didn't mean to do black voice for that. I don't know what this panel was for, but I didn't say the thing. They said the thing. Okay. Well, we have a bunch of democratic socialists of America that endorsed a bunch of Delaware, like probably like eight of them, like state house members. And one of them, her name is Medina something. She's a Muslim. I don't know, like her country of origin or her story or whatever. But I follow her on Twitter now. Because she's out here. She's like live tweeting during, I guess it was like a Kamala rally or something like that. And bro, they're not having it. Like she's like, oh man, her timing is cringe. Like she needs to go to an acting class. This is bad. These are like your own people. I'm telling you, right? If you're a betting man, bet on Trump. They are not. This person is not. Look at CNN, how that clip you were playing earlier, dude. You can tell with Stephen Colbert, you can tell with John Stewart, they do not have the corporate endorsement. She does not have apex endorsement. She is not. They're going to raise money with her and they're going to parade her. And they're going to parade her around and have her do as little amount of press as possible. And go, oh, you know, he gave it a great shot. And then they're going to start fundraising off Donald Trump. Just how they do their game. But telling you, I would bet, I bet everything. And I've been really wrong about presidential elections. So, you know, keep that in mind. But I just don't see it. I think that you bet everything that Donald Trump's got this in the bag. I think that he is the establishment. I know, I know. And that's the thing, right? Like, I thought that he wasn't the pick in the beginning and he ended up being the pick. And then I thought there was no way that Joe Biden was going to beat him. And then Joe Biden beats him. And now it's like, obviously he's got this in the bag. But that doesn't make me trust him more. It seems like he, like if there's any sort of democratic process here that is actually in effect, it seems like he does have it in the bag. And it also seems like per the corporate shit that he also has in the bag, which makes me skeptical that he has in the bag unless I believe that it's all rigged and they want me to believe that he has in the bag, which I think is more so the case. Which makes me trust him less, too. And makes me less hopeful. I don't know. It's a vicious, schizophrenic spiral. I know. I'm telling you, though, this is definitely, I've been to almost every state. This is Trump country. He definitely ain't probably won that other one, but he's, he should win this other one. That's another thing we haven't considered is that if they're like, "Oh, Kamala is the victor, you know, president of the United States." Yeah. They definitely, they definitely gank that. I mean, you can tell right now. Then that's, then they might be doing the old poke, do a civil war thing with that. Because that would really, I think people, people understand fully that that guy, again, somebody in the chat who was a bear post, just like, yo, he took a bullet for, took a bullet for democracy. I think what he said. But yeah, like there, he's a living folk hero. He's definitely more popular than Kamala Harris to pretend any otherwise is silly. And if they tried to pull that, I think that might do something awful to the, to the, the heartland. But, um, no, man, I bet, I bet on Trump at this point. Hey, if you want to like spin Donald Trump into like a children's book folk hero type thing, it'd be a hell of a lot easier than Kamala Harris at this point. Oh my God. It's like Kamala Harris went from cop lock everybody up for weed and, um, like keep people in prison past their sentences and keep people on death row. And this, that like lock people up for weed while you're smoking weed. And then she goes to a politician that nobody liked. And she goes to a politician that hip hop girls are shaking their ass for. And so now we like her because fireworks and explosions while Don Trump. I mean, per their story that they have laid out for us has been quite the, uh, the victim, the underdog. They made us believe that a billionaire was like the most oppressed man in the country while they, uh, tore him down in every way that the possibly could only to build him back up again, send him through a assassination attempt and then get everybody who has any rational thought behind him, um, it's definitely a good story. It's definitely a good story. 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Seems like awkward applause for that set up, but yes, we are back and we're going to talk about everybody's favorite, most wholesome topic, abortion. Dave, hold on, abortion, yay! Let's go. All the things. We're going to talk about abortion just for a second because there was a clip that, you know, we go in a circle here and we bring it back around to Alex Jones again because Alex Jones popped up and shared some undercover abortion footage over the last week and it is not fun. Not fun. Not good for the soul. This is not the feel good content, but I do think it's, does this got body parts and crap in it, dude? Yep, it does. So feel free to look away if you're not, if you're not down. I'm not into that. I'm not into that, Dave. I don't think most people are into it except for maybe Hillary Clinton, but I'm not into it, but just know that this is, I think it's important to address because this keeps being brought up as the number one issue. And when I was a child, this was the number one issue, my conservative Christian family. The only issue that mattered is who's anti-abortion, who's pro-abortion, we go with the anti-abortion crowd, which is understandable if you believe that human babies are human babies. And I've gone back and forth on this and had lots of lengthy conversations, so I'm not just like believing it because I was raised that way, but there's plenty of reasons to think that a human life starts at conception or at least sometime before the birthing canal. And now we have, as we mentioned a couple weeks ago, we have abortion vans, food trucks at the DNC that are just abortion on demand. It went from safe, legal, and rare to shout your abortion, show up, and get it done for free because this is everybody's right to do this. It has, I bring this up mostly because I feel like the Republicans are fucking sucking on this at the moment. I feel like the Republicans once again have gone, "Hey, we're 10 years behind the Democrats again." And now we've got Donald Trump. I know that it's a big issue on whether or not Donald Trump gets elected. If you're playing into the political monster that is politics, Donald Trump has to address this issue. And he has to play both sides to some degree, but Donald Trump's being kind of a bitch on it. He's kind of thrown it back to the States, which I know is more libertarian. It is a step in the right direction. It's better for it to be illegal in some places than illegal everywhere, in my opinion. But we also have the libertarian candidate, Chase Oliver, who is just pro-abortion, pro-choice. It's your body, your choice, the baby's body, doesn't matter. Of course, as libertarians, the right of the woman to choose what happens to her body is important, but also that assumes that the human life that you're defending inside the nap in this very, very close-minded theological construction, that human life is not a human life that deserves the nap also. So we've got Chase Oliver, the guy that we're being told that we're supposed to support because, you know, he's got libertarian in his name. And then you've got Donald Trump being on it, and then you've got Kamala Harris being completely for it. But it is a big issue that needs to be addressed to some degree, and again, this is graphic. I'm sorry if I rambled for the 10 minutes and you just got back, we're actually going to do it now. And feel free to look away if you want to, but I do think it is important to show here. So we're going to, we're going to watch this a little bit, and it's body parts sold with audio plan. If you won't stand up for the babies, there's going to stand up for you. So that's enough. Sorry, Dave. No, that's okay. Yeah, like I felt sick seeing it the first time, and if you don't feel sick, like there's not a lot. Like I can, I can watch decapitation videos on Twitter and not feel too much, but when you see an innocent human life that had no chance at anything just because of most likely convenience, when you see that and tell me, tell me that's a clump of cells, tell me that's a clump of cells that's there with all the parts intact, and tell me that Donald Trump is right for being eh, eh, and he's supposed to be the voice of the complete opposite of the Democrats, or like all abortions all the time, sometimes after birth, look it up. I know Donald Trump talks about it all the time, but it is true that there were some people who were pushing for that. I know it's not as common, but you know, it also is not very common cases of rape, incest or the other one. Those things aren't very common. So if we're going to talk about not what's not very common, rape, incest, and the life of the mother, the exceptions that Donald Trump has, I think that those, well statistically, those are not very common. And there is an argument to be made there. There's a conversation to be had within those three parameters, but outside of that is not what the vast majority of them are. I don't, I'm not ready for this, and I made a bad choice, and now I regret it, and now I'm going to take this life. So if we can just focus on that part, Dave, I know you come from a completely different background. Like we've talked about the, I don't trust RFK joining Trump, and I've got an aversion to Trump because of my conservative background, or whatever, you come from a more like atheist democrat background, and I imagine that this was less taboo for you growing up, but have things changed as time has gone on, and you've seen like, what exactly that is, or were you, I don't know, have your reviews changed over the years, Dave? Man, yeah, my views have changed over the years, definitely, you know, 180, as a matter of fact. I'm definitely not like a warrior on this. I do, like when it comes to, you know, footage like that, or stuff that you'll see on Twitter, the only platform you'll see that is on Twitter, by the way. I'm not saying that that's wrong, they're saying the only place that you'll get. It's correct. Yeah. People need to see it. Right. So because it's only place you'll, you know, you'll be strolling and you'll see like a funny meme that your buddy shared, and the next thing is like some poor guy carrying his dead baby in Yemen, or excuse me, like Palestine, or Yemen. Yelling at his dog, I'm going to put in a hold music, but it's just going to be dogs barking for when you mute to teal at your dog, I'm just going to have a sound effect that's dogs barking on repeat, so it doesn't make any difference at all. It's okay. The dogs can bark. That's, that's my point here, Dave. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Anyway, abortion. The worst. Yeah. They don't get it. Oh, no. What's that? Dog, I'm trying to solve the world's issues here. I'm trying to save human lives and you won't shut up because you need to go poop. I definitely, I don't even think they need to go poop because they're good. Yeah. They're just dogs. Yeah. No, man, I'm just, I, I have a hard time with like, you know, the graphic stuff. I never was the kid who watched Faces of Death as a kid. I don't like that stuff. I don't, I don't know how Scott Wharton deals with, you know, half the footage that he has to probably look at, you know, in a given day. I really think that this stuff affects your soul, man. And I try, we tackle enough subjects that are just enough, like to, to see it. I really try and, maybe this is cowardly, but yeah, I try and spare myself. I used to, this is one of the things that I probably kept me fiercely atheist and pro choice and in that bubble for so long was I, dude, I hated the guys who would just be outside of Planned Parenthood with like those kinds of pictures. Yeah. I, that really, I resented that driving by. I'm not a fan of that. I'm not a fan of that. Yeah. I guess that's kind of what I did, but I did give you very ample warning and did not scream in your face while you're going to a traumatic time. This is your, this is your show and we're going to talk about it and I'm totally okay with that. And I even have a slightly different view of those guys these days. I won't reach out of the car and yell at them now, you know what I mean? I still don't appreciate it. I think there's better ways. But that is it. That aside, these are just like my, I just want anybody who's like under a certain age where this, that wasn't a thing where they haven't encountered those, like this used to be the Democrats were safe, legal and rare. It was much bigger of an issue. Like the Democrats were like, this needs to be rare. Now they're like, this needs to be everywhere. Everybody's for abortion. And that's like, I think everybody knows the reason that this persists and grows and that's because we have a culture of death that the whole, you can't have, you can't spend all of your money. You guys know what money is. It's all of your energy, all of your resources, you know, running for the war machine, the death machine, like you can't be like doing like good humanitarian work and murder work. Yeah. It is a death machine. So it's also, like if your whole culture is in that really quick, if your whole culture is spent in that, and your whole culture is spent on feeling good with consumer goods and items instead of relationships and religion and God, then what do you expect? What's the only thing that's going to make you feel good? So yeah, that's why it's easy to witness death and it's easy to kill now your own and your own people. What about the dehumanization of everything, man? So that they can make us commodities and that came before all of this Satanism where they were like, do what thou wilt and that shall be the whole of the law. And it's all about you and all of the inconveniences of life. It is your responsibility to make it, make it so you are, you are the, the end all be all. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's, it is gross. It is gross. It's soul hurting to see. I don't like sharing it. I debated whether or not I even should share it, but now we are living in 2024 where it's like the Democrats aren't saying safe, legal and rare, they're pulling up trucks and the libertarians, I wouldn't put it past them to do the same because they're just completely pro choice and I understand that there's a, like, what's the, the proper solution to the, what's the libertarian answer to abortion? Well, I think the libertarian answer to abortion, yes, it is being, it is being squashed by government solutions. And I don't think government has the best solution. I don't think abortion is the best solution to an unexpected pregnancy. I feel like we have, if, if there was less, um, you know, government overreach in exploration of different options, we would have found a better answer by now. But we're not living in that reality. We're living where in the reality where the answer is, keep the baby or kill the baby. And everybody, including Donald Trump to a certain degree is saying, yeah, kill the baby at some point. Now, whether or not you think that that point is right or wrong, um, just know that every single candidate on the ballot, everyone, including libertarian and to some degree, Donald Trump is pushing for what I just showed you there. And Donald Trump is the best on it, certainly just like George W. Bush was the best on it too. And nothing happened under him. Uh, Donald Trump at least kicked it back to the States, which is a start. So take any win that you can get any, any lesser of it. I don't like the idea of people being arrested for medical choices, but I do, I, I, I would have a hard time putting, finding somebody to put it past who has that big of an issue with somebody being arrested for murder. So if you can finally ever find it in, in your soul to believe that there is a decent, a decent chance that that thing that looks like a human sounds like a human behaves like a human and will eventually grow into human is not just a clump of cells, but actually a human that maybe that the nap applies to them too. If you believe that the libertarian is the end all be all, that's why some libertarians think that, uh, abortion is exactly what it is, which is killing a baby. So, um, yeah, fun times. So real quick, would you, are you, are you comfortable saying like, if a woman has takes the, whatever, what do they call it, the day after the night after pill or the day after pill? Uh, plan. And she took that plan. Yeah. If she, if she morning after pill, if she takes the morning after pill or you can, are you okay calling that murder? Mm. There's the gray area a little bit there. Um, I do, I, I, not necessarily cause you don't necessarily even know if they got pregnant at that point. I don't know. No, well, let's say for, you know, let's say that she's pregnant though, but it's two days later. I don't know. It's a, it's a tough one. I don't like it. And also Donald Trump's exceptions. I am open to the conversations on those too. That is tough. Like if you got raped or if there's incest or, um, for the life of the mother, like if my wife was, if I had definitive evidence that my wife would either die or the baby would die, I'm going to have a hard time not choosing the person that I know over the person that I don't know. It's a, it's a Sophie's choice type of thing where it's like, I love you both. And if it's definitively one of you has to die, I'm going with the person that I know. So I'm not saying that I'm like, not just, not just the person that you know that, but and I, I would agree with you and I, I, I think that that's probably the right decision. But it's not just because you know her. It's, there's something more of value in the universe to her than I would say. I don't know how, like this is a hard conversation. And I am pro life. I would, I think that you should, unless I don't know what the case is that they're listening there, but yeah, you should have your baby if you get pregnant. I believe that. But my, my next air on the side of not killing the baby at the very least, and we're, we're not really to that point in any capacity. I just wanted to make a point earlier. We were talking about how, you know, the libertarian parties flaws and how it can be steered by certain interests left or right. And this was probably the perfect example, man. Because nothing drives the left or the right like this issue. This is the number one football that both political parties use against their. And they both have demigraphic, like the left is like, it's all about you. You go girl, you do you and keep the government out of your bedroom. And then the Republicans are like, but it's murder too. So they both have an own, but they both can fundraise off that. And that's why they both probably aren't willing to do really, really anything. And you, you know, to Trump's point, he is a political monster. And he is like Quentin Tarantino would say here to win the game. So it's a fact that you can't come out as a candidate and go, I am for outlawing abortion across the board, blah, blah, blah, that you, you will lose. So I'm not telling you just to say it or not say it. I'm just saying like you'll lose, but back to the libertarian party real quick. I used to think that this is one of the issues. I used to think that this was like a way to say, Oh, we're like so much better than the other two parties because we're so much bigger than you guys that we're willing to like look past that and we have a party that has pro life and pro choice people. But I think that that really does man. I'm glad you brought this up today because I think it is a thing that leaves us perpetually open to the powers that be to kind of steer where you want because this thing, this is literally for the Democrats, I don't know about Republicans, but definitely Democrats, the only thing they have to say is abortion rights are on the line. That's all they have to do. They don't even have to go into fucking teachers, union stuff. They don't have to go into whatever canceling college debt. All they got to do is say abortion and people will come running dude. So it be most people are single issue voters. This is the thing that animates literally everybody they have opinions that aren't really moveable. So I think the libertarian party just to put a bow on this, I think the libertarian party should probably at some point make a decision. Say something bold in this and that's a pretty big divider. It's pretty it should be a pretty big divider in the party, like whether or not you believe that life is life. If you're going to be the the arbiters of like, we are the ones who are for non aggression. This is a big one that you got to fucking figure out. Is it aggression or is it not because if it is aggression, it's it's the worst active aggression possible killing an innocent life. And if it's not aggression, then I guess go that way. So yeah, if it splits the party, it makes sense because it split the other two parties and it's kind of like one of the biggest issues that both the parties have been bringing up as long as I've been alive. So maybe figure that out and yeah, decide what you all want to do here because listen, some people say it's anti libertarian to be pro choice. Some people say it's anti libertarian to be pro life. So that's it's a big divider. It definitely is one of the things that I listed for the Trump's promises to libertarians on Twitter the other day was that he kicked it back to the States, like he got rid of Roe v. Wade. And that is, as you said, not everything, but a huge move in the right direction. And it's not enough for some people, but and I think that's the best that's the best you're going to get or is that what there's a question for didn't Joe Biden like kick it right back? I don't know. I'm not getting an abortion. So I don't keep up on the latest as far as where I can get an abortion, but I feel like Joe Biden was working really hard to overturn it and I'm sure call my Harris will do that too. I'll never would to, by the way, so for what it's worth. Yeah. Well, again, yeah, I mean, if this is your number one issue, then yeah, nobody is really speaking for you. I think it's worth mentioning because the Trump team was getting a whole lot of wins lately, but if you just like reflect a little bit, especially boomers, like reflect a little bit on why you were a Republican in the first place, if this was your number one issue, if nine, like if the war in Afghanistan, the war in Ukraine, war and I ran war, wherever we feel like going to war. If all that was not like you were still a Republican there, okay, because your one issue was abortion. If you're one issue was abortion, your guy is not very good on it. He's better than the others on it from your perspective, I would imagine. But is he still is he still good on it? Just be honest. That's all. Tell the truth. And you know who you know who Trump should talk to on this issue? A guy who is a lifelong servant of the people and a career gynecologist delivered over 4000 babies. He should talk to Ron Paul about what he thinks. Oh, I thought you were going to say Fauci, but yeah. I don't know if he delivered any babies, I don't know. I hope not. Yeah. He probably just put him down. Yeah. Also a RFK junior for what it's worth. Yes, great. He's a former Democrat supporting Donald Trump and he also earlier this year came out and was like, oh, all the portions are fine. And then they were like, are you sure? And he was like, no, no, not all abortions are. Is that what you're, that's what you were wanting me to say, right? Not all abortion. Yep. That's good enough. Good enough for Republicans. Go ahead. You know what, man? Not that if you want to switch the subject, we can, but you brought up abortion. But I'll just say, like I am a person who used to be adamantly pro choice. And Ron Paul is the reason that I am not. Yeah. People doubt that shit if they doubt, like that's the way to convert people. It is not to shout at them. It is not to like be like, this is the only way or like even show picture. He never did any of that. He wasn't on the side of the Planned Parenthood, like protesting. He made his opinion known, but there's a way to do it. There's a way to convince people and like, I just, I'm so grateful for that. Like I literally changed my mind on like, as you said, dude, such an important issue. Yeah. I'm no longer nihilistic in that way. And it didn't come from somebody like shouting at me or like it just took a little bit away for a long time. I was like, let's talk about this. Like, yeah, I care about the women too. I'm not just like abortion, murder, you're bad. You're an evil person. I understand that this is a big decision that most people don't come too lightly. But the way the culture is going is you should come to it lightly. You should make this decision if you just feel like you don't want to have a baby right now. And I have a problem with that. Absolutely. And you just, it's, it's so hard to talk about. I mean, thank goodness people don't know what a woman is these days. So we just because we don't have a uterus, we're allowed to have an opinion because we don't know what a woman is. But it used to be that if you didn't have a uterus, I feel like abortions per capita have been cut in half since men can be women now, so because then you won't at least be getting abortion. We did have that one. A couple of weeks ago that was like, I am a woman and I want to be impregnated so that I can have an abortion as a biological male. It sucks that like the sexual revolution happened at the same time as like, I mean, I'm doing the chaos book right now that Candace Owens recommended. I have it. Is it worth it? Yeah. Yeah, I'm, you know, I'm a couple of hours deep into it and it's great. But like it definitely talks, it exposes how, you know, like a seemingly peaceful love movement was hijacked by like MK ultra deep state Satanist like like, I mean, we already talked about Roman Polanski today, but like, yeah, dude, this is the whole Manson shit. It's fucking crazy. Like the roots of, you know, like free love or whatever you're still seeing like that, that gets warped into like the kind of just like smut that you see today because of the satanic MK ultra programming that you've gotten sprinkled throughout your shit and cranked up throughout time with the fifth generation warfare and stuff. But it's, you got to be primed for that stuff. So when you see that lady out there who's foaming at the mouth, I've had 40 abortions. It's like, oh my God, like you're, I'm cool using the term possessed. Yeah, you're like, you know, like you're possessed. I'm okay with using that terminology. But yeah, it's a crazy, crazy turn today, bro. You brought it up. I'm sorry if I offended anybody and I know I don't have a uterus, but you know, we got to change the culture that ultimately, like, that's why I believe that the 10th amendment is the best way to do this. The answer is not to come up with a federal agency that fucking kicks people's doors down. And I know that that will take longer, but you have to go the Ram Paul route. You have to change the way people think about the thing growing inside them. If they always think that it's just a commodity or property or a parasite, you will always lose. They have to cherish it first. I'm not voting for abortion. I'm showing you a clip to hopefully change culture a little bit and give you just a little bit of meat to chew on. Maybe that's not the best, best for average to use, but a little bit of meat to chew on. And I believe that as, as libertarians, it's important to note that this entire message was brought to you by these guys. Chase. Chase. Chase. Chase. Chase. Alright, it is, it is Chase and Top. I don't know what it is. So we dig deeper into the libertarian candidates as nobody else. Well, we do have a fake soup chat before we get to that. Chris. This fake soup chat. The abortion issue is all about fundraising. It's a wedge issue where both sides can raise funds on the backs of dead babies nobody intends to offer a solution. And yeah, yeah, I would say that even the libertarian candidates aren't really offering a solution. They're saying it should be perfectly fine to remind, they're not saying what I said of like, I feel like there's probably a better way that we haven't even thought of yet. I don't know what it is. I'm not pretending I do, but I feel like there's something that we haven't quite figured out that is, you know, able to keep somebody from getting impregnated and also not killing a human. But that's just me. So I don't know what the answer is. That's how you know, I'm not lying because I don't know. Now, we got to talk about some libertarians now, uh, Joach Horkinson put out a, put out a post earlier, uh, yesterday, she put out this post saying, I don't know who will win the election year. I know who will lose America. Uh, you're funny, bro. Thank you. Um, yeah, um, I don't know if that tweet was thought anymore through than the. Uh, actively anti-racist tweet that was posted by somebody else. I don't know who posted this or whatever, but, uh, I understand the sentiment, but you realize how it sounds for the former libertarian presidential candidate to say, I don't know who will win, but I know who's going to lose and it's going to be all of us. So she's not saying directly. She's not being honest enough to say that the libertarian candidate is going to lose. I have to, based on the verbiage that she put out in her own campaign, where she said that she was going to win or she had a shot at winning. I have to assume that Chase Oliver has a shot of winning and if Chase Oliver has a shot of winning, uh, Jo Jorgensen apparently thinks he's going to, America's going to lose even still. So I don't know. I don't know. Maybe, maybe she should, uh, uh, as the former libertarian candidate, good honor for finally weighing in on anything in life. Um, and I think we mentioned this on Tuesday. Where are these people? Where are the Kerry Johnson's in the world? Where are the, the Jo Jorgensen's they're just, they just kind of pop up every now and then to make, they say things where we're like, huh, that's kind of stupid, uh, or the bill of welds. He comes around on election season, uh, Gary Johnson, I'm curious if he's posted anything, but yeah, any thoughts on Jo Jorgensen's, um, uh, what inspiration the Chase Oliver campaign has given former libertarian candidate, Jo Jorgensen, Dave, listen, first of all, this bitch needs to shut the fuck up. I can't believe she had the, the audacity to say something like that to which I did retweet that. I quote tweeted it and asked her why she endorsed Chase Oliver for Senate. Like, that's good enough. He's good enough to be one of a hundred senators, but you won't endorse him for president. Kind of sus. But, um, yeah, but like, yeah, just like you pointed out, like you were the last libertarian party nominee, like how about you just at least fake, are you know, aren't you supposed to lie? Like everybody else is and like promote the person or the party, you're gonna do the lie. You got to keep the lie going. He can't just drop it when you're not running. Right. Can you imagine if she tweeted that in 2020, like, I don't know who's winning. We're sure she'll be all going to lose. Listen, you can vote for me, but we are all fucked. That's it. That would have been great if Jo Jorgensen would have said that in 2020. Instead, we played that game, but, um, no, this is funny because, um, yeah, again, nobody, not Gary Johnson, not Bill Weld, not Jo Jorgensen. He has endorsed Chase Oliver for president or said, Hey, guys, you really need to take a look at this guy. This is, he's saying some really interesting things about tomato over there, putting out these daily videos. He's absolutely crushing it. Nobody's doing that. So that, that's sad. I'm sure that they'll blame other people, but nobody, nobody is coming out as a woodwork. I got to ask, have you heard Gary Johnson's latest? Gary Johnson's what? Sorry. Have you heard Gary Johnson's latest? No. Okay. Take a look. This is, this is kind of like when we discovered Lisa and, uh, on the fly, uh, what she had to say about things in the world. We're going to look at Gary Johnson's latest posts in July 20, 2023, July 2nd, 2023. He said, wishing America a happy birthday. You are still the greatest country and I am proud to be an American. Thank you. Thank you. Uh, his last before that, September 24th, 2021. All of us want impaired drivers off the road. That isn't a question, but the privacy and data collection implications of requiring vehicles to have impairment sensors are just too much. Many posted a Cato Institute thing and, uh, September 11th, 2021, he said, hard to imagine that the September 11th attacks have been 20 years ago. We saw a lot of horror that day, but I remember in, remember it bringing us together in a way I haven't seen since we know how to raise, rise above our differences and stand together in the face of our greatest challenges, making a difference. Wow. One year at a time. So I mean, I have 2022 in its entirety. He just skipped 2022 and he has said nothing. I bet he said nothing about Joe Jorgensen, either, but I know that he has said nothing about Chase Oliver because in fairness, he's a boomer and he doesn't use Twitter much, but he does have 248,000 followers that know him as they're only following him because he was the libertarian presidential candidate. If he had valuable opinions ever, it seems like they would have come up. No, you know what? This is a perfect opportunity to highlight, bro, is Spike Cohen, who is just a good guy who did the best thing that you could do with any kind of libertarian party presidential momentum. Like he obviously bill welders out here fucking going, the bat for Kamala Harris. You got Gary Johnson just disappeared into the woods, the smokes and weed and probably it grow as beard out or something, whatever. Who else you got? Joe Jorgensen delivering awful tweets, you know, but Spike is out here starting a great nonprofit, still bullying, you know, cyberbullying politicians. And that's just a good, that's a good home-grown hero if the party wants to claim something like the kind of launched Spike Cohen and he still, you know, gives props to the party. He hasn't endorsed Chase, but, you know, he's still cool. So I'll say that guy did it better than anybody else. Yeah. Now, Dave, I did have a video of Comp saying why Chase is better than Tulsi, and it's because Chase is anti-war to the core. I haven't had a chance to verify this, but it would seem like it's gone, it's gone entirely. He just deleted that one, so, you know, you'd make some good choices anti-war to the core. I saw somebody that supposed to, I think it was, I don't forget the name, but they were like, look, it was like a Mises person, it was a Mises unicorn, I think, on Twitter. And they were like, look, we're all anti-war, like that's why we're here. But when I hear anti-war to the core, it makes me fucking wonder, like, just run away, like, just... Yep. Oh my God. It makes me sound like you are as old as you are. It seems like that one. I think, that's Chase's. I think he took that from Chase. Isn't it really? You got our first, our first game, Millennial candidate, who's got such things as anti-war to the core and hashtag, #ChaseYourDreams. Uh, now the Tulsi video might be gone, but as of 59 minutes ago, Mike Cremont put out a new one that I have not watched yet. It's all about the next pandemic. Let's see what he's got here. There were two lessons learned by America's experience during the COVID regime. First, we all learned that a government left unchecked can manipulate information for political purposes and get citizens to do some pretty weird things. Whoa. Even against their own interests. Second, the government learned that if it plays its cards right and is left unchecked, it can manipulate information for political purposes and get citizens to do some pretty weird things even against their own interests. There will be a next time which of these two lessons will prevail. That beat though, my God, what did, what, two lessons that we learned is that the government can manipulate you and how can they manipulate you? Will they manipulate you in the ways that you endorsed and that you did that you, will they make you wear masks that you, that you'll wear because you think that they're good? Will they manipulate you and say that you'll keep your distance and that you'll also, you'll also do that because you were manipulated, but, but it's a good idea. The government will manipulate certain businesses to insist that people don't come into their stores. Oh, yeah. The government will manipulate you. Who could have seen that coming? Art hitting stuff at the very least, but we brought up a Joshua Reed Eagle before, everybody's favorite fed as of late. It's almost like he's the torch bearer of Nick Sarwerk because Nick Sarwerk, I don't know if he actually faded into the background or if it's just that he blocked me on Twitter and now I don't see the bullshit that he posts, but, yeah, he posted the thing about Bill Weld, but he also posted this, which I thought was worth a share. And he said, me in 2012, tea party, me in 2016, never Trump, me in 2020, never Trump, me in 2024, never Trump, send him to the abyss. Thankfully, my political views have become far less populous and far more realist as I've aged. So he's got here, started with Ron Paul, went to Gary Johnson, Justin Amash, okay, you've fallen? You're tracking? Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris is next, the obvious leap, the obvious next step after Justin Amash. Now, we've had our issues with Justin Amash. I've also had conversations with Justin Amash and like the guy generally, issues with Gary Johnson certainly. There isn't any one of these guys that can start with Ron Paul and end with Kamala Harris. All you're doing is making Gary Johnson and Justin Amash look worse because you went from Ron Paul to Gary Johnson, and you were in the Libertarian Party, got it. Justin Amash, Republican outside of the Libertarian Party, but anyway, he was anti-Trump enough apparently. But obviously the next step is anti-Trump candidate Kamala Harris. Good job. That is some mental gymnastics in the political sense, if I've ever heard them. Oh my God, that was just absolutely painful, further making the case that that guy is just as fed as they come. You have to be the only way to be for Kamala Harris right now is if you're a child or you're retarded. Like that's it. So that's that can't be the end result. Nobody comes to that at the end of their like or the most current, current form of their political awareness. There is no Ron Paul to Kamala Harris pipeline. Oh my God. There is no, exactly that never anything. Maybe Bernie Sanders. You could make the argument for Bernie Sanders, but Kamala Harris, are you kidding me? Right. There's nobody that that's that's where you're at currently starting from Ron Paul. Fuck you. You're just an obvious troll, but you could look at it in reverse. Maybe like, Oh man, I was such an idiot. And then I found Justin Amash and then somebody who wasn't so boring over here, who was like kind of cool. Oh, but then like, then you come to Ron Paul, like I, it's just that's crazy. That guy triggers me. Still amazing. You can do it. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, as far as delusional as some of the QAnon supporters are to be like, I went from Ronald Reagan to Donald Trump and it makes perfect sense. You just don't get it. Sure. That makes a whole hell of a lot more sense than Ron Paul to Kamala Harris or literally anybody, including Joe Biden to Kamala Harris, like, sure, they might have the same non policies, but y'all voted for Joe Biden over Kamala Harris and Kamala Harris got no delegates when she was running against Joe Biden. So even the jump from Joe Biden to Kamala Harris seems a bit laughable, let alone Justin Amash to Kamala Harris, Donald, I keep saying Donald Trump, Ron Paul to Kamala Harris. It's an amazing world to be living, Dave. You got any final thoughts? I think that's, that's going to about do it for this short episode. That's coming in just under two hours. We're really shortening them up here, Dave, and I didn't have this much planned for today, but we did get off on some rabbit trails that I think were some good conversations. And I like that we are able to do that. Got spy like the tone of the Thursday show where we can just talk a little bit more. Yeah, we don't talk about abortion enough, bro. So we need to do two days a week and all abortions every Thursday, Thursday's abortion day. Yeah. Let's do it. It's going to be there. So no, it's good to be here, man. And Dr. Carlin, you've got to get out of here, bro. Do I look like a destroyer of worlds? Everything I touch turns the absolute shit. Yes, but in a different brand keeps Dr. Carlin B on reserve, bro. You guys, if he ever gets rid of me for Dr. Carlin B co-hosting duties, you abandon ship. You fucking run. Run, son. I don't think you've got to worry about that, but yeah, where can people find you? Yeah, you can find me on Twitter, Dave versus Goliath one, that'd be great. And that's pretty much it. That's the only place you can find me lately because that's the only place that you can show abortion pictures and war pictures and it's the only place that keeps it real enough right now, even if it's a limited hangout, come hang out in a limited fashion. And yeah, let's do this again twice next week. We'll see. We'll see how consistent we are. That's the idea I would like to. And I would like to keep getting them a little bit shorter, a little bit shorter, and a little bit less of a workload so that we can keep up on the current things as they're current instead of waiting until like it seems like when I do a Wednesday episode, something drops on Thursday, which we're doing this Thursday episode and in a couple hours, Kamala's going to give her big girl interview and we're going to have to come back on Monday or Tuesday and talk about that again. So we're going to have to talk sooner than Wednesday and then we'll probably have to talk at least as long as the election cycle is going on. I would like to try and aim for doing a little bit shorter stuff, a little bit tighter, more concise, conversational stuff, and also getting in twice a week so that we can stay ahead of the stuff. We're definitely not going to like some of these hacks like Tim Poole or Dave Smith, where they're doing like daily episodes now because everybody needs an entire hour about Dave talking to Nicole Shanahan or whatever, no, you need two hours of me and Dave talking about Dave talking to Nicole Shanahan, that is what you're here for and that's what you got. Now Dave, we've got to end this the way we do, as we always do, even though we forgot to last time I think, we've got to end with Steve. We've got to end to him, our woes, so here's Steve. Hey, I'm checking in, tell me what's going on. I don't know, I don't know Steve. We've got to end this time. 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Today, Dan Smotz & Dave Casey watch the world burn, while laughing their way thru all the most important articles in the news… and a whole lot of unimportant ones as well. On the Docket: * The return of Q-Anon??? * Robert F Kennedy Jr FORCED to Run * #ImNotWithHer * Kamala’s Big Girl Interview * Abortions for Everyone * & more Question everything. Stay uncomfortable. Lets get weird. Guest & Sponsor Links: Dave: https://twitter.com/davevsgoliath1 Lone Star Injury Attorne...
