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Big D Energy | Wednesday, August 28th 2024
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My name is Neil Rule. Sam Flannel in Fort D. Mac, he's got business and such in the streets. So you don't ask him about it. You just let him go. You don't ask him about his business. Just let him go. But he'll be out the rest of the week as a matter of fact. But that's okay. Sam Flannel is in. We got K.G. here in the building, Young Justin Spencer, Raxter, third to first across your infield. And Flannel, I have to tell the people this story, yesterday I experienced my first tornado. Really? Up in Washington Township and it was wild and I don't know. I haven't heard any new. Oh, by the way, subscribe to the Woodward Sports YouTube channel. Jump in to the chat and I don't know that it was ever classified as one. I don't know the rules with that. However, I do know this, Flannel. I just got done grilling dinner. I got an alert on my phone, shot out weather app, and said there was lightning detected about 12 miles north of here. And I thought that's weird because I literally just got done grilling and it's sunny and it's a million degrees outside. So I flipped open the radar and the reckoning was coming, Flannel. It was about 12 miles away. Oh, man. Yeah. It was quite a night last night. I'm on the opposite end. I'm on the west side. You're on the east side. And I didn't get what I perceived to be a tornado, but it was just one of those nights where periodically throughout the day, we did wake up Woodward and it was dark clouds. I left the office yesterday and it was sunny and then later on that night, we all know what happened with the storms and a bunch of people I know lost power, including people who came into a Woodward today. So it was certainly a reckoning in some ways. And if you believe you saw a tornado, then damn it, you saw a tornado. But here's a deal. So I checked the radar, as I said, and I was like, "Oh my God." And then all of a sudden, boom, like that, it was literally nighttime outside. And the wind picked up badly. And then all of a sudden, the wind, like I thought the wind picked up. No, no, no, no, no. And I looked out the window and I was talking to my wife and she goes, "Look at that out there." And the air is spinning, the leaves, the dust, the degree, it's spinning, like going through the neighborhood. And it was like weird. I had never seen it outside like that before. It was dark, but it was light, and then all of a sudden, man, like wind that I had never seen in my life, it was so windy. So I had the grill outside on the deck that has a cover on it. The wind blew the cover up and the grill door, the door we put the propane in, blew that off the grill. Oh my God. And then my patio, right? And then about eight seconds after that, my patio umbrella that's out there, snapped in half. Oh. It snapped in half. You know, they're like metal steel, it snapped in half. That was a tornado. I don't care. I'm not a weatherman. No, absolutely. You played one on TV though. But I was playing one yesterday, and that was a tornado, and it was scary for a minute. No doubt. Twista, it's a Twista. Shout out our Wizard of Oz. I thought hurricane season was over. No, it was though, man. It was grim out there for a couple of minutes. So I'm glad you okayed them. Yeah, well, yeah. Everything's cool. Like, you know, there was some patio furniture damage and stuff like that. But I do like to say my kids have a trampoline. But old dad. Yes, sir. Yes. Anchored it strong. Yes. Real man. It buckled a couple of times. Yeah. But we stood in there. But they don't fall down. That's what I'm saying. Oh, dad did it. 40 go on the Elmen Lavonia. We had that tornado earlier this year. Was the same experience. Was out of nowhere. Things just started moving around, and it sounded like a trend. And that's like, if you guys have anybody here ever like deal with it before, you ever like been in a tornado or anything? Nope. Nobody. You have. Okay. Like, that was, that was the, like, that's why it was so scary because it was different. That sound. And you don't know it if you haven't heard it before. But trust me. You never hear it. You'll know it. The sound of a tornado? Yeah. Like, it's, it's like a train going through a tunnel. Like, it's, it's, I'm telling you guys, it's wild and it is scary. How was Brandon, Brandon, the cats? My wife went down in the basement, right? Pretty much right away. Yeah. They took, they took Brandon cats with them or with them. So but my son, my son still, because I don't know what it is. Like the, the middle-aged guy in ya. Yeah. You know, you gotta like see what's, cause I had never seen it before. Yeah. You gotta check it out. And there I stood in a, in a living room with, you know, right next to a glass window. Real smart move. Yeah. Like, 101, what not to do. Yeah. A shout out to the pets because my orange cat Milo was not a fan of what was going on last night. He wanted to hide under the bed. So a shout out to Milo. Neil, did you hit the legendary dad pose as you looked out into the abyss of the tornado? No. I didn't do that. I, because I was like, I was kind of like, quote unquote, keep in my head on a swivel. Yeah. You know, like I was like. He was ready to take off. Right. I was. Now I, I will say this for future reference, if I did, if this happens again, and I do it again and you read it and you see a story in the news where it says Washington Township man, you know, impaled by a trampoline leg that blew through his window and went through his chest. Yeah. I deserve that. Yeah. I want that on record. I want you guys to play this clip. I got what I deserved because I would have deserved I deserved anything bad that happened to me. Yeah. That's where I'm built different than most people flan. I'm not looking to blame others. That was me. Self-aware. There you go. Worth it. Right. All worth it. Just a fan. We were about a quarter mile away from a tornado. Mike G. Neil, did you give the tornado tone? I, I did. You know, I, I did as a matter of fact, but you know what, and this is the other thing I learned too. Yes. This is educational. Them sirens started going off after it was just about over. I was like, oh, thanks. Oh, right. After the fight. Oh, thanks. Like I thought we pay extra taxes up here in the hills of Washington Township. You're supposed to say we're supposed to have our own siren that goes off before the commoners. Exactly. No warning. Just a bam. Here it is. Right. I'm fortunate. Well, we're sports chat thread jump into there, get your thoughts out there algato. We don't get tornadoes in Bloomfield nature favors the rich. Well, I got told that's how I knew it was bad, like the weather, shout out Ryan Armani and Fox two, the Fox two person on the street was in Birmingham, like two miles from here. Yeah. Trees were down everywhere. That's how you knew it was a real storm. Your tax bracket didn't matter yesterday. Yeah. I would like to say as a representative of Bloomfield, it was a tornado in Bloomfield yesterday. I was, I walked outside and the wind gusts were swirling at like 60 miles an hour. So. Centerline was fine. We didn't even lose power. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Time. Suck it. Right. Yeah. We flicker in the township, but we held a lot like the trampoline. The power situation was a lot like the trampoline in my backyard. It flicker for a couple of minutes, but it held strong sounds like the slums. We don't deal with these problems in Detroit, but hey, we overcame, right? Yeah. We pulled ourselves up by our bootstrap. You got our favorite line, KG, you got to, you know, you have to. Okay. Nobody coming to help you. Yeah. 40 gumball. I'm surprised both your furnaces stayed on. You know, well, you know, there was 98 degrees. There was no need for the furnace. Yeah. No. But no, it was, it was wild. Crazy clone. We lost power for about 10, about 10 seconds. Cubol 93, 60 mile power winds isn't a tornado. It wasn't, it was more than that by us. Buick Enclave is designed to make together your favorite place to be with an abundance of thoughtful features, like the hands-free power liftgate and with generous space for up to seven, your family will agree. Time spent together inside this SUV is time well spent. Enclave gives connectivity a starring role. Your family will stay connected to the world, even when you were on the move. Experience Buick Enclave today at Shortline Buick 1301 South Havana Street. You do the drive-in. We'll do the rest. Did you know, using your browser in incognito mode doesn't actually protect your privacy? Take back your privacy with IPVanish VPN. Just one tap in all your data, passwords, communications, browsing history and more will be instantly protected. IPVanish makes you virtually invisible online. Use IPVanish on all your devices. Anytime you go online at home and especially on public Wi-Fi, get IPVanish now for 70% off a yearly plan with this exclusive offer at IPVanish.com/audio. It was, I had never felt anything like even 40, 50 mile-hour wins I had felt before. I had never felt something like that. Where you had to like, you had to square up. When I walked outside to get that, you know, to get that metal shrapnel off the patio, like you had to like, you shall not pass. You need to break yourself? Yeah, you had to like square up to walk, man. I'm just, it was scary, it was scary for a second, but it did like, it blew through so fast. Yeah. You know, but yeah, shout out to everybody though, if you don't have the power today, that sucks. Sucks. DTEs out there doing it. Man, what? It made me late to work almost. The big DTE trucks in the middle of Southfield Road was bad. It is. They're out there though. They're out there. They're out here right now as a matter of fact. They're right out here outside in Birmingham though, but shout out to everybody and I hope everything is okay. So flannel, yes, we got to talk some college football at some point today. Are you cool with that? Of course. Always. I'm pulling, I'm pulling an audible, Spenny, because I want to get, as we get ready to embark on week one, you know, week zero was a nice little appetizer. Everybody got right. We're all off to a good start. To a no, baby. Yeah. To a no, let's go. I do. I just, I want to pick everybody's brain on college football because I still don't feel like we understand how this is going to work. We don't. It's a new, it's a new format. It's a new season. I feel like it's the NFL kickoff. I still don't know how the NFL kickoff works. I don't. Just go back to the old kickoff or get rid of it. But that's just me. That's just me on my soapbox really quick. I know I know I can't change anything, but just who needs returns? I don't. Just period? Yeah. My punt returns are fine. Punning is a big part of the game, but a kickoff returns. I liked it the way that it was. It's gimmicky, the new one. I don't love it. Yeah. So I, again, like, I just, I don't think I want to talk it through. I want to make sure everybody understands how this is going to work. We got some tiger stuff certainly that we're going to get into. The Lions picked up Tim Patrick. San flannel used to pray for times like that. You called your shot, flannel. I mean, here's what I will say. This isn't my time to necessary victory lap. It was something that the heavyweights did talk about before, and it was something that was shown that was put out on our social media, that Tim Patrick was cut by the Broncos. I just gave you reasons as to why I thought that it was something that the Alliance could do. And even given, in the best case scenario, something that the Lions should do if they value that ex big body receiver, and it turns out that they did. And they, I think it has the potential to be a very fine move for the Detroit Lions and very cost effective. No. And we'll, we'll get into it. We'll break it down. We'll analyze his out, his route running all of it. We're not going to do that. Yes. Clearly. We're not going to do that. But we will get into it to some degree. Top five Wednesday. Also. Top five. Top five. Top five. This one's exciting. Yes, man. And Spenny, we have, we have photos. We do for a trip down memory lane. Yeah. Yeah. Top, top five Gibraltar Trade Center booth. Y'all welcome. Yeah. That was great. I have to laugh on that. That's it. I can't wait to see your list. KG. Oh, man. I bet there'll be some crossovers. I'll bet there'll be some differences. Absolutely. Now, flannel, this is something that you have DMACC's list. Yes. You don't know about Gibraltar Trade Center. I do not. What? I am. Oh, yeah. From Illinois. Yeah, I'm not a native. I've, I've heard something. Did you make your list? I did not. So I'll just put one in. So I'll just read his. Week. I didn't make one either. I didn't know when mine was supposed to have on it. On Wednesday. Top five list. We do it every Wednesday. I know. I just, I genuinely don't know what is happening about Gibraltar. Exactly. He don't. I know. I'm just playing with it. And that's fine. But the real ones know. Oh, yeah. I was there. I bet in those trenches. Loki, when we was, when I was making my list last night, man, went on the nostalgia trip. Yeah. Little pictures and stuff. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Gibraltar really was like that place, man. It was popping. I'm ready to be educated. Straight up. Oh, it's great. I didn't, I didn't look at any of your lists. I didn't look at any of your lists because I wanted to be surprised and have some reaction to whatever you guys bring up. So I'm excited to get into it. Let me see. Well, where sports chat thread Detroit arrow, why you got to make me Mr. Broulter trade center again? We're going to get, we're going to do it. We're going to get into it. Spenny, I have a question for you about Gibraltar. Okay. You were probably not of age at the time. Well, no, it's Gibraltar trade center. You were. I could have done it. You chose to get one. Yeah. Would you have gotten a tattoo at Gibraltar? Oh, for sure. Do you have a tattoo? I don't. I don't. Would you have got your hair cut at Gibraltar? Yeah, probably. Yeah, probably. I'll do anything. You buy furniture from Gibraltar. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Would you have bought a rug from Gibraltar? I think I have bought a rug from Gibraltar. There we go. This one I'm talking about. They got it all, man. I absolutely. I've definitely bought a lizard. And that's on my list. The pet store at Gibraltar is on my list. Hate to have live edibles in the place. And it was so... I can't wait. Yeah. I want to start. I want to do something different. I want to. I'm waiting for him for lunch. Yeah. Every quarter was just something different. I want to do it when we come back. We're not going to though. We've got to wait second hour. Everyone's got to wait. You know, even I asked to wait. Robert Lane, here we go. My first ever tattoo was from Gibraltar trade center. Oh, yes. You got off to a rough start. Yes. There it is. Here we go, everybody. Oh, man. This is going to be... Just a fan, flannel only has a top two list, and it's always my homes in LeBron. Damn. They're my two favorite non-detroit sports athletes ever. Everybody knows that. Hutch fighting for third. Boy. Robert Lane is like the mayor of Gibraltar, the best beef jerky. They did it. Good beef jerky. Yeah. You could have been human. You never know. Right. You could have been a lot of things. You could have been raccoon or possum, but it was good. Never. It was great. No, it was. So I can't wait to do it. Red Dead Scott. I only read the first five words of this, and I'm reading this, and I don't care what it says. Red Dead Scott. I got up to... I worked with the guy a decade ago. Oh, God. That's where I just said, "Okay. All right." I worked with the guy a decade ago who got an entire back piece from Gibraltar for $150, and it's the absolute worst tattoo ever. Of course it is. I mean, if you're paying $150 for a tattoo, and it's any size bigger than, like, your finger. And it's at Gibraltar. Yeah. It's probably not going to be a good tattoo. All right. I can't wait. Your guys' excitement really makes me excited for this, too. It took me back. Yeah, it really did. I had one specific one that's on there that I don't think anybody else is going to have on their list, but I remember the specific booth, like, so deeply ingrained in my memory that I had to... Well, we've all got that one. Yeah. Yeah. We've all got that. It's my number five, I believe, on my list. Oh, my God. I can't wait. Hey, we may jump move this off. Yeah. Why would it? 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And they continue to gain ground because the twins and the Guardians, more specifically the twins, are sputtering. No, they are. The Kansas City Royals are in first place. The team that has a superstar and spent money. Yep. Crazy. I mean, Bobby Wits a unicorn. That's one thing that... Family 350. I know. He's... You're gonna have 30 home runs. Reasty Hills. Yeah. No. When you talk about the best players in baseball, Bobby Wits on that short list. He's on that short list with guys like Shohei and Aaron Judge and Juan Soto. He's in that room. Yeah. Yeah. 100. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You really want to get to it? He's the MVP. And it's not close to me. Aaron Judge. No, no. The Royals flannel. The Royals are in first place. The Royals. That's fair. If Aaron Judge has like 70 home runs, that's the one caveat. If he comes near the home run record, Barry Bonds is home run record. He's hitting 350. He's not getting Barry Bonds home run record. He's gonna hit 30 home runs, steal 50 bases, hitting 350, play shortstop. And he has the Royals in the lead in the division, the Royals. He might be more important to the team's success than any individual player. So in that regard, I'll give you that because the Yankees also have Juan Soto in the lake. That's right. I forget who is talking about it last night. I was watching. I think the Mariners game and they're talking about the Yankees and they're like, well, when you look at the Yankees offense, it's kind of pedestrian and then you add Aaron Judge and Juan Soto. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Two of the top four baseball players. Yeah. Two and a half. Yeah. It's gonna look better. Yeah. Like, no shit. Yeah. That is wild. Jump into the chat by the way. When Gibraltar Trade Center had the best people watching top five Gibraltar Trade Center. We'll some characters. Yeah. Wait for Demax list. Yeah. Wait for Demax list. Before Walmart, it was your book, Nick Hettigen. Was there anything better as a 21 year old than going to Gibraltar than heading down the street to Hooters? Obviously he's talking about Taylor. Yeah. Shout out Taylor, man. That's a good time. We lost. We lost some good ones down there. Taylor, between Gibraltar and the Hooters. We did. Man. Some fallen soldiers for sure. Yeah, man. We lost them. Good times at Taylor. Absolutely did. That's a John Daley special right there. Cubol93. Cubol93. I got liposuction at Hooters. You did not. All right. And Gibraltar Trade. You did not. Mike G. Gibraltar had good churros too. I don't know. They asked the weird corridors. He said, I used to buy fireworks at Gibraltar. My homie bought an AK at Gibraltar. And we don't doubt it. Yeah. But that's factual. That gun counter was like right. The gun counter was awesome. Yeah. Tyler M. I bought my first subwoofers there. I have a story about that when we come back. All right. Yeah. As well. But yeah. So again, though, just going back to it, the Tigers are playing good baseball. And they won again, and I don't care that they beat the White Sox. I don't care that they beat the Angels with Johnny Quato running out here. Shout out Johnny Quato. I couldn't believe it. I'm like, no way. He's still in the. He's still in the base. Shout out, man. Yeah. Yeah. But Trevor Bauer can make it. I know. It's crazy. Yeah. Crazy. Robert Colosia, Neil, there was some suction going on, Ehuders. But it was not lipo. OK, guys. Stop with that. All right. Stop with that. Robert Lane. Hold up. Let's get this straight. Gibraltar. Mount Clemons was far superior to the one in Down River. We're holding them together. Oh, yeah. For sure. Mount Clemons is... I don't even think I've been the one down river. No, I haven't. No need to. Yeah, right. Well, I would. If it ate the one with the giant man, the giant Gibraltar man, I don't want it. Thanks. OK. But anyway, though, the Tigers are playing good baseball. Because they're five and a half out of the wildcard in flannel. No one is talking about the man that may be most responsible for it. Because for me, and we have bumped heads about this before, you and I have bumped heads about this before. Yeah, we have. However, it needs to be stated that this man, the lineup last night, lost in all this sauce, the lineup last night was one for 15, five through nine, one for 15, which means essentially you only played a seven inning game offensively, maybe even a six inning game offensively. They still won. They still won convincingly. And it all boils down to this for me. AJ Hinch is managing his ass off right now. AJ Hinch with two pitchers. They have two starting pitchers cycling through the bullpen, putting out the perfect matchups, rolling with the perfect starter, massaging that lineup, juicing everything he can out of it. Yeah. He's not getting talked about and it's criminal. AJ Hinch is one of the best managers in baseball. AJ Hinch should be considered for manager of the year. He did it with Harvey by as anchoring this thing down for months was a good soldier about it. Continue to push the right buttons stays continuing to push the right buttons. AJ Hinch should get consideration for manager of the year and final, I don't care what you say. AJ Hinch is one of the best managers of baseball. If he walks into roast on an off day, the coffee's on me, AJ Hinch, which he does sometimes, which he does sometimes, AJ Hinch, when you roll up to Birmingham roast, the coffee's on me. Unless you're getting one of those designer all enjoy things or whatever. If it's basic coffee, AJ, it's on me, because you are manager of the year in my book. Let's see how the season plays out before it goes. It doesn't matter how it plays out. No, it doesn't matter how it plays out. Yes, it does. They are above 500 in August with two pitchers flannel and five through nine in the line of gold, one for 15. Well, first of all, there are a lot of good arguments and good things you can say about AJ Hinch. The fact that the bottom of the line up being one through 15 isn't one of them, because he decided to play Ryan Kreidler over Jace Young. It's fine. It worked. But I'm not going to say, "Oh, poor AJ Hinch for that." What I will say, though... These are the tools he has to work with. Well, and this was my issue with AJ Hinch throughout the year. I'll get this out of the way, because I do think he's done a phenomenal job handling the... Do you? Do you? Handling the propensity of bullpen days. That's been absolutely unbelievable. I will give him that. That's what kind of changed my heart and mind about AJ Hinch. My issue with him at the beginning of the season is I think at the beginning of the year, he mismanaged Kerry Carpenter, and I think that he mismanaged the line up at times. I don't think he played Carson Kelly enough, and I don't think he played Andy Abani as enough. However... They're not even here anymore. But at the time, Jake Rogers had more at bats than Carson Kelly did. And if Carson Kelly's not going to catch, he needed to be DH at times. Shout out to him. He had himself a good year. And Andy Abani is still here, by the way, and that was at that time. What changed my heart and mind is how well that he has managed the bullpen days, because that was a hell of a task. Basically at the same time, you got Casey Meis, Reese Olson, and Jack Flaherty just ripped from your pitching staff. For all intents and purposes, at about the exact same time, and they've been able to handle it. They've been able to not only handle it, but play the best baseball that they have all season. And I'll give AJ Hinch that. That's a very tough thing to do. When you have to roll out five, six pitchers, when you have a starter that's going and ending in two thirds, and then have multiple ones go and ending, and ending, two innings, that's a lot to handle. That's where your job is a lot harder, because when you send school out there, a lot of times, and I'm not saying a manager's job is easy, but you can send school out there and basically take a nap for six innings. For three out of the last five games for the last month and a half or so, AJ Hinch has done an absolutely phenomenal job handling the bullpen and credit to AJ Hinch. I wanted him fired mid-season. I was wrong. The dumbest take of all time. And that's saying something. I'm on the desk with him. I tried to tell him it was too much. But, Blake, are you really trying to tell me that everything this man has done has been perfect? No. No. Yes. Stop. Crossover to new possibilities with the first ever Buick Invista. Now a short line Buick refined, versatile, intuitive, tech friendly, cargo loving, and best of all, Invista is fun to drive. 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This team is above 500, flannel, show me a 20 home run hitter, you can't, I'm looking right now, nobody has 20 home runs, show me, show me a player, show me a player hitting 290, who cares, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't show me that, oh yeah, and how many games you play? Not a whole lot. Oh, well then that doesn't count in flannel, it does count, no it doesn't, because one of the reasons they've been playing so good also is because their schedule is easy and Kerry Carpenter's been back, Riley Greene's been back, Parker Meadows and Spencer Torkelson have arisen from the dead of Triple A and played well. Say his name flannel. Paul Keith has ventured his way back into rookie of the year conversation, I don't think he's going to win it, I think it's going to be Colson Colton-Couser, but that helps too. AJ Hinch has been great, but he's not the main reason why they've won and he's had some faults this year, I don't care what you say. How can you sit there and say that he's responsible for bullpen days, which they have three of them every time through the rotation and he is not flannel. The Tigers pitching staff is second in the majors in FIP, feeling independent pitching. The truest measure of a pitching, they have the second best pitching staff in baseball with two starters, with two starters. I think that was over the full season and Jack Flaherty and Rieslson had something to do with that. I'll just say that. Oh, when was the last time they played? It's been a while. The trade deadline. I get it. I'm not saying that AJ Hinch hasn't done a great job with the bullpen. It's just, I thought there were a lot of times in the beginning of the season when I look at the lineup and I would see Zack McHenry, I would see Jake Rogers, I would see G.R. O'Rishella and then I would look on the bench. Those are the tools he had at his disposal and he made it work. No, Neil, he would have Carson Kelly and Andy Abani as in Kerry Carpenter when there's a lefty buried on the bench. For God knows what reason. But you can't do it both ways. Yes, I can. You can't tell me about how great Kerry Carpenter's OPS is when he doesn't have to hit against lefty. Do you watch him when he hits against lefty? He hits better against lefties than you think. You act like he's a 100 hitter. He should be out there again. He has a 929 OPS. If he did that over a full season, he'd be one of the best players in Major League Baseball. Come on. He would have been an all star if he didn't get hurt. Should AJ Hinch be in the talk for manager of the year? Yes, if they finish over 500, yes. They're 500 in August, over 500 in August for the first time since 2016. Yes. You were singing pit bull songs the last time that they were over 500 at this point. No, I understand. Mr. 305. Yes. Doze. And for the record, I think they'll finish over 500. They got two more against the Angels. They got Terrik Scooble on the bump game one against the Red Sox. They've got a series against the A's. They got a series against the Rockies. They got a series against the White Sox. I think that they will finish the season over 500 and I will give AJ Hinch's flowers. I will. I will. And he's done a over the totality of the season. He's been a net positive for this team. Never going to deny that, at least as of right now. And I think that will continue. A net positive. Yes. A net positive. A net positive. Is it Casey Hinch or AJ Stengel? Which one? Which one? I don't know. We should put it up to vote. What should we change his name to? Is it a Sparky Hinch or AJ Anderson? Which one? If we're going to be both? He's not. He's going to be both. That's ridiculous. I like AJ Anderson. Yes. We're talking about the best manager ever and the best Tigers manager ever. And that's not AJ Hinch. Not yet. I like Sparky Hinch. I like Sparky Hinch too. That's a good one. That's a dog. It's in the chapel right now. A tour. Neil is having his October fever dreams again. A tour. Make no mistake. There are multiple camps here that I am in. And when this team in the league, when this all shakes out and they fall a couple game shorts, which ultimately I believe that they will. Well, it's going to happen. Yeah. Yeah. Ultimately, I believe that they will. Then we will have that day of reckoning. And out of nowhere in October, it's going to be like a Wednesday. And I'm going to say I need to take a segment and talk about this. And you know where the fury is going. Yeah. You know where it is. I do. Because at that point, and I would even argue now at this point unequivocally at this point that you were one move short of being in the playoffs. That's a little Chris. One move short of being in the playoffs. 100% fair. Not going over them. Matt Chapman probably put us in the playoffs. He's got 21 home runs already. He's not as good as Riley Green, but you could have had both. Yes. That's the point you could have had both. You could have had, like, yeah. Is it fair to say right now, it's been fair to say that this team is one move away from being in the playoffs? 1000%. They might make it anyway. It's a long shot, but your point is with Matt Chapman, you could have Matt Chapman and Matt Veerling and Colt Keith and Riley Green and Kerry Carpenter and Terrick School and Tyler Holt. And it wasn't going to cost you some ridiculous amount of money or some long term. Yeah. And it wasn't like you didn't know. Terrick Schoolville was the betting favorite to win the Cy Young. It's not like this was a surprise. And this will be this on that day of reckoning in October, Kenny, you own this. You wasted a year of Terrick Schoolville. You wasted one of the greatest pitching years of all time by anybody. True. It may have been for the greater good, but true. No, no, there is no greater good of that because it doesn't happen. You don't think you can get that again? I don't know. I know I got it this year. Yeah. And I know it was expected. It wasn't out of the way. I mean, even with that, they were never just going to win six scions. No. But I'm just saying, even with him doing that, they wouldn't have gone to a world series or even maybe advanced a series. That's all I'm saying. If you give me school ball and flarity in a short series, I'll take my chances. And that's fair. This is fair. Is that it? Sure. What would you put the odds of school but winning another Sayon that? If you had to sign a betting line on 43 percent. So plus one thirty. I would take that. Yeah. Plus one thirty eight. I didn't have to a little aggressive. Yes. But I would go lower. Yeah. That's where I am. About two to one. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? But you can't bank on this happening. Let alone every single year. This is special. All right. We'll get to that in October. I went way past the clock my bad you're doing good you're doing it I'm on that hinge magic he's my corkos I'll take that I will take that hundred percent that's a brand name yeah hinch magic what we're sports chapter at a Phil stealing science I think a J hinge bin exonerated of that yeah all right well we had a pregame show right you can't recall if he had the I do not yeah I asked him he does not recall whether or not he cannot recall if there's a garbage can in the dugout yeah he cannot recall a specific game yeah I think that's but I can I can recall where the best pregame show is going to be the best Lions shows as well Sunday morning game day that's right 8 a.m. Terry Foster and Matt Broder and then that gives way at 10 to noon depending on the day you know but Monday night football Sunday different football is a little bit different the pregame show and it's all brought to you by Sabbath coffee roasters out there on East 14 mile road and tell them or do Irish whiskey you could 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the football stuff everybody Neil rule flannel Sam in for DMACC you'll be in the rest of the week we're going to be doing some heavy college football as a week goes on nickel package Friday everyone bourbon Friday look for that spending you're in Friday right I am might want to move that off data Friday yeah I was thinking about that yeah sounds like I'm gonna have to move some things around yeah I can move some things around all right bourbon Friday let's do it I'll uh I'll bring it accordingly we'll just say it like yes we'll be a lot of fun getting into a holiday week nickel pack I need a labor day nickel package oh yeah labor day labor day labor day weekend spending I can all right I can already tell this is gonna go Friday oh yeah you know that I might I have to bring I might have to bring a second bottle there's what there's what gonna be five of us yeah yeah are we going in at least one and a half are we going in now four of us oh yeah Justin's the last day today right today this is my show all right let me read these comments let's address that real quick by the way here on mark M AJ Hinch should get consideration for pope not according to that pope okay I'm Detroit Arrow if the Tigers do somehow make the playoffs Hinch deserves manager of the year I agree SW line 26 get AJ some more talent and the Tigers could really make some noise sure just a fan flannel this is a question for you flannel are you demanding that PFF begin having baseball analytics I mean I personally like you know the OPS and the OPPs and the wars and the OPS plus just fine that's that's that's that's that's the stuff that I deal in so if that's the baseball version of PFF then so be it John Fisher you can't complain about Hinch is a casual Tigers fan you're two best players shit the bed this year and we're still competing oh when we traded our number two starting pitch like if you went through that list mm-hmm for a lower one of the lowest payrolls in the league yeah what have you by as though your high your two best players shit the bed I would say our two best players are an all-star and a sigh on what are well you're not you best hitters maybe that's players got her you know miss your time being her maybe your second or was supposed to be your power editor but yeah I would say Riley green and three school blur are two best players that's not close yeah your lead off in your three hole hitter kind of with the bit because that's that's what they were supposed to be so yeah your highest-paid player obviously are sure he's got to be shot into the move he's got to be shot into the Sun we already cannot come back we are ready to cannot come back I got him out of line up once I hear you now it'll be my best work if I can get him out of the organization I hear you I'm gonna be like you next year if he's back on that roster it's what you find me you gonna be seething together I I'm telling you guys this if he's there opening day we're gonna have a problem I'll probably won't notice you'll you'll hey you'll have free rain to do whatever you want all the attention will be on me you get loose in the street all right get loose in this I'll crash out if he's yeah I'll crash out straight up just is it yes crashing out woodwork sports guide out crazy he has yet to prove otherwise the Tigers are the fifth lowest payroll team I don't know about that Anakin Skygore Neos how your houses how's your power at your house if flickered but it's good strong not to talk about your brought their trade in there all but Jesus G.W. the kid that Jersey is dopeness what is that what do you got just another deep artist jersey kind of white man his name's woolly so it's a woolly mammoth and yeah I just looks like an elephant well it's supposed to be a woolly mammoth and I got in the mail the other day so I've been saving it to put where in my last day because I wanted to show up with some drip on I got you so yes it is it is young Justin's last day not with woodwork not with woodwork no but he has to go back to school yes and are you looking forward to being back in Ann Arbor with all your Michigan brother I knew it's coming do I have to all right what I I'm going back to Western Western why I don't even know why he didn't answer any of these questions because he's just leading me to someplace where I don't know but no I I go to Western you do all the Michigan hoodie and and paraphernalia you have stand on business Justin yes I you can be a fan of two schools that are in zero ways linked to each other there you go it's crazy put your hands up so crazy I like LSU but I don't wear their paraphernalia see there you go okay well hey have a good time in Ann Arbor get to Zingerman's I've heard that places is good Blinky Burger's good I love Blinky Burger yeah that's a common common stop there's also a place there's also a place that's like I think it's Thai food and frozen yogurt oh yeah what shout out the slurping turtle and jolly pumpkin as well they've got us some some nice establishments in old Ann Arbor yeah and biology if it's still out there lots of slurping in Ann Arbor no doubt about it uh steve oh baby Neil has there ever been a woodward walk-offs in studio history of woodward sports before flannel flannel is broken equipment he does stood on the table like literally well um you know I'm not going to rehash that because uh we've we've all made peace on wake up woodward but uh broder said something absurd and I walked out shout out broder though shout out broder uh Thomas Perry Justin's this is nice he says go Broncos a lot of love for the Broncos this morning and chat was their first game against you don't even know do you it's against Wisconsin actually took too long at Wisconsin 26 and a half point spread you're gonna go to the first home game hey oh no more Michigan games or more Western games this year what will you attend it will be probably an even split two and two probably I'll probably go to two Michigan games and I'll probably go to two Western games which ones are you looking forward to more I believe I'm going to Michigan Texas so definitely that game not that's not even a question hmm weird um and if they ever played I'd root for Michigan burning issues oh what did yeah you guys are you guys are you guys are bastards man I don't care I'll say it straight up I'd refer unless it was no I don't even think hockey would would change my opinion I'd say you don't recall just say you don't recall you didn't learn anything from your guy I'll try to tell you just say you don't recall that's a religious man thank you spending the funniest part is the look at the lawyer before yeah I don't recall flannel yeah if the Leathernecks of Western Illinois the battling Leathernecks the purple and yellow purple and gold warrior and McComb Illinois shot out sunrise chicken yeah oh absolutely I've been there same if the Western Illinois Leathernecks traveled into Ann Arbor and you were going to the game who shirt you're wearing Michigan you're a douche too because you can only be a fan if you went to the school well I mean you should you should look for your school you're your alumnus I'm a fan of Hawaii yeah I wear a Hawaii t-shirt I like Hawaii yeah I enjoy it a lot however when Oakland plays in the rain in the diamondhead classic you know over Christmas holiday if we have to play Hawaii you know who I want to win Oakland hey it's only a thing for state fans and Ohio state fans when it comes to Michigan fans particularly state fans there's no Walmart of any Auburn people don't call them like you know Walmart Crimson Tide or whatever no I'm sure there is I don't know about that it's it's fine it's fine I'm not even not even brought that up but just rooting for another team against your school is weird westerns like D2 I don't I don't for reference I have lived for 22 years only three of those years I've gone to Western Michigan at least 12 to 14 of those years when I was conscious I rooted for Michigan my Michigan fandom runs deeper than my Western Michigan fandom straight up and that's how it's going to stay I don't care fire down chips chase eat shit oh this is low-key being a bastard today you should have heard about wake up woodwork well here here's here's an important question here's an important question Aaron to the stone Neil do you know of Justin will be tailgating then attending the big game against Fresno State with his Wolverine fraternity brothers will you I will not be no why not I will be getting settled at school I will be packing like by stuff and getting my room but you could just walk across campus to the stadium there's no convincing Justin let's just let's just let's just let's just I don't recall yeah you go find a real call all right um there was there was gonna scribble out the western part of your diploma so it's a mission no uh there was one nice message here and I'm trying to find it and I had it queued up and then I lost you lost a nice message I did and this makes me sad they said I was conceived out of wedlock I don't mind the best it was a great conscious that was a great kind of day huh just a fan says it's kind of like Connor Stallings being a CMU and Michigan fan that is a it is along those same but he wasn't there so yeah he can't call me he can't but hey if by that logic you know Ryan Hermione thinks I'm the one of the smartest people on earth that is true I guess I know but seriously though you'll you'll be missed here in studio but I am happy to report you'll remain with the network in a role with the network and that's well deserved so thank you and I still will be involved in big D. 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joustin spencer raxter young joustin's all last day before he goes back to um western michigan by way of michigan or however it is uh that it works out um now hold on just a fan flannel be honest you're just trying to protect those u of m season tickets and your marriage now for those that don't know when we when you were in when was a monday uh no last week last right yeah yeah last friday we uncovered the fact that flannel merely only got married because he was marrying into michigan season tickets yeah that's not true that's what you said rony yes i did exactly say that i think you did not say it it is a nice do not recall it it's sweetened a deal it is a nice perk and uh i can't wait to uh be there saturday night for fresno state and the following saturday for texas i will be there as well so uh it is a nice perk i will just say that and it's a bonding moment between me and my father yeah absolutely yeah yeah all that and stuff if the season ticket drive you're sticking around yes yes with the father-in-law now yeah right all right anymore you know that's enough i like i like mrs flannel yeah no she's all right she's awesome and a real person and as a cream of wheat t-shirt yes she knows she does now it's and it's pretty electric so uh so there's that oh let's go revving sparti as a question jusus do you root for u of m dearborn when you play them in club hockey definitely not why not because i don't want because you wish you were on that team i have some enemies on that team can you play club for them if you're not a student no have you considered enrolling just to play for them no why because i'd rather go to western why because there's i don't recall yep there you go he learned it the boy learned it okay so what's your gift right well so jusus you you had uh but before you go there we do play oakland this year just to let you know club hockey yes we want a national champion yes you have you guys are very good national championships you guys finished your ranked 16 last year so it's going to be a good matchup and the only time michigan ever came to the arena in basketball they took that l yes they did i think believe that was a brian elor b years you know talk your shit jusus you gonna put them into the ice when you face oakland tell them tell them what it is all right anyway though so you i mentioned the fact that college football is off to a great start we got the people right you hit me with a proposal during the commercial break you said you may have a perspective get right now just i off the rib discord i know i know everyone gets excited right now because they they're they're this is not a needle approved get right right he's not he's not trending in a good direction with it we'll just start like that but i will listen because i'm a man of reason go ahead okay we're gonna go to thursday night okay the slit there's one big game that caught my eye and it is north dakota state playing in colorado i like north dakota state plus ten there's going to be everyone and their mom on colorado yeah i just i disagree with that you do really yes all right well then talk me out of it then because i i think that carro doesn't have the offensive line play that north dakota state will have north dakota state's just going to run the ball down their throat i i just i see them keeping this game relatively close maybe ten points isn't enough maybe it should be more more like 12 and a half to be dabbling in that but i i made a lot of money betting against colorado last year and i don't think that i'm going to stop because it the hype train has to stop for them and and they're over under set at five and a half this is a detune national champion we're we're talking about so talk me out of a nail flannel your thoughts i know you hate the unsanter he does as a as a father as as a head coach as a father and as and as compared to livar ball i think livar ball superior although i don't know all of the inner rules she knows that's wild should do our sanders as a dick he is that like dion sanders jr the head of that video stuff is a dick i'm fully convinced of that but no um i agree with you i agree with you 100 percent how are they going to protect shador i understand that it's not the kota state but they are a powerhouse in that but then i would flip that around and say how are they going to contain shador like when he gets out of pocket and stuff like that i mean they are they are a one double a what do they call it fcs now one double it that's what they are and that's like i know that they have like the sex appeal and they win all the time yeah when they play villainova and yung's town state they do but you're talking you can say what you want about them and i'm not i'm not a huge like for him to be a top 10 draft pick in the nfl i can't see him thriving in the nfl i can't see that however they're not playing the nfl this week and when he breaks contain when it comes down to be in an athlete north north the kota state does not have and colorado has a few of these sure and then i see this a lot like in college sports they don't have that level of athlete no well they do not yet travis hunter or shador sanders i mean come on it's it's it there's travis hunter pound for pound is the best player in college football pound for pound going across like playing football yeah he's the best football player at playing football in the nation he is i don't hate that take i think that they should focus on playing a more at corner than having him as the full-time receiver as well but his skill set yeah there's nobody that can really match that he could it wouldn't shock me at all if i'm not saying that colorado is going to be the national champions or anything but if he has a charles woodson lake impactful season it wouldn't be shocking because you saw him play offensive defense last year i just think him playing every snap at offense oftentimes hurt his defense you can't play 80 snaps a game that's not sustainable but he's good he's really good it uh so yeah i'm gonna have to go ahead and veto that now you can do on your own what you wish to do on your own however for me i do have to say that i was more ten is not enough yeah it is nowhere near enough for me especially in a game where ten the thing with ten is it looks so good when you're staring at it if this was the in a field game i'd say stay away from and colorado can be up three in the fourth quarter and what happens in these games is the horses get out of the barn when you are outathleted at pretty much every spot not every spot but pretty much every spot two plays that seven dash spent splash plays happen then yeah and they happen bigly you do as you wish good luck to you it didn't speak to me therefore i cannot bless it as a gift all right i have i have faith in that you are leading me in the right direction so i i probably will end up staying away maybe i'll just throw a little bit like a half unit on it just so i can walk yeah entertain a time go for it man whatever whatever a half a unit is for you cordy whatever it is for you just because i'm going to be locked in who's not going to watch that yeah of course you're going to watch and you hate the on sanders and you're going to watch as the point as the colorado football head coach and his cold of personality yes i do but yes i will watch frame you want to see you want to see all the network cares about you lost them when you said yes i will watch they said oh i don't care about what he just said everybody hate watches everybody prays on downfalls and watches it's just going to be happy to be that i'm going to be doing it that night yeah if you're not insured through swiss insurance if you don't have them get your insurance for you you're you're due for a downfall i have a feeling that deion standard is not insured from swiss oh he's got that foot let that hate out your heart that's that's shut up shut up the fact that he's in a commercial with nick 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Field boys and girls club southeastern michigan three c sports putting the youth back in youth sports all right keeping a pushing big the energy woodward sports network our number two kneel rule sam flannel in four d meck we have kg young joustin spencer raxter as well all of you in the woodward sports chat thread jump into their subscribe to the woodward sports youtube channel and get your thoughts out there and a lot of people i have a lot of it's funny man just a fan if you hate prime is it prime hate i mean i guess i guess it would be i mean i like him as a former nfl cornerback yep one of the best ever like defensive players period i'll give you that just not as a he was the same person as a player that he is now but he was effective as he was the best cover corner of the time and maybe ever he's done one year at colorado he's just as good as a colorado coach as he was a player right kg right and and one and one four hundred percent more games and they won the year we showed up exactly zero and had the same amount of conference went and brought more as the hbcu's but you know hey that was great what he did at jackson state i'm not going to deny that but i think and put jane susan on your team they had a lot of talent on those teams and a lot of hbcu's didn't have i'll just say that and beat a tcu team that you know yeah handed in their second can you know your second consecutive loss after the national championship game no that that same tcu team that lost everybody but that that's same program that a tcu team that was five and seven that year that's all right do you believe that they hate out your heart plan after one game get the he's a clown okay is he sending the clown you always want to keep a good brother down i'm sorry man well as a d1 hater you're right i mean as he should be though thank you just uh here we go thank you see when they blew that lead to three and nine stanford and got it and and and made excuse and they made excuses for him get the f out of here win totals five and a half this year i'd take the under by the way if you're interested if that's your cup of tea well they do play that powerhouse in abraska oh yeah abraska's beating him by the way ooh you're not gonna die on the nebraska hill again huh man calorado yeah okay yeah to the top five quarterbikes of college football going in it okay i don't know about let's let's let's slow down the wheels i'm doing right i'll leave it give it that one of them is probably top five and it's should do our centers um but yeah so so there is that uh top five list coming up in just a little bit top five your brought their trade center booths stores let's know people are fired up about it here's what i've learned though and even this just kind of reinforces it yesterday with the connor stallions documentary who people were like you're talking about it again i didn't release the documentary netflix did yeah like it is amazing the the lightning rod that is deon you saw the chat blow up we just talked about him for a second in passing yeah you know just kind of talking about a game and an angle of the show yesterday where people were like we're on this again chat blows up instantly mm-hmm it's it's wild man the he's electric we say we say we hate all these things dude but then we comment on all of it yeah exactly got to have got to have some polarization especially when it comes to certain topics that's the key to it all it's good when there's a wide variety of opinions uh Megan wants to know flannel who do you hate more neon deon or big ben wallace i the fact she i don't hate bed wall exhale i hate coach i hate the coach colorado coach version of deon centers yes i do hate hate hate hate i don't hate that was you ready to throw that hood on yep can't can't say anything negative about a black man or some racist i'm just asked a question yeah uh phil said deon had more total whims last year than flannel had good takes care to respond i disagree i think i had at least five i think i had at least five over the totality of like a football season to be honest you can but that's up to your interpretation all right okay lot man we met it this far we didn't talk about lion sign and tim patrick we didn't to the practice squad yeah he's gonna get but he's gonna get elevated very quickly he's gonna go ahead you spoke this into existence take your victory lap no see i'm not really taking a victory lap because what it what the tim patrick signing showed me is that the lions they value that big body x receiver they want one on their team when they when the first fifty three man roster was released it was just isiah williams kaleef ramen jameo and almond wrestling brown three out of those four do the majority of their work from the slot and i was i wasn't necessarily upset with that if they're all healthy i think that that's enough but what this showed me the tim patrick move more than anything is that the lions are probably should have tried to hold on to josh rennels and i'm not saying that they didn't but they might miss what josh rennels brings obviously they value that because they got themselves not a version of josh rennels but one of those x six four type receivers who can stretch the field a bit and catches first downs that's what tim patrick was and i get it there's also some comparison comparisons and fair ones with him and manual moseley because of the injuries that tim tim patrick has suffered in the last couple priest like training camps with an acla then and achilles but uh he also had seven hundred yards in two consecutive seasons with drew lock and uh teddy bridge water as his quarter backs he also has a career fourteen yards per catch and 112 of his 143 career receptions are either for first downs or touchdowns it has the potential he's like a he's like a tom kennedy type huh just catches big passes there's a volume to this meal there there's there's a volume of receptions that tim patrick has made and a certain archetype that uh tom kennedy would not fit tom kennedy would be extremely redundant on this wide receiver core you know what i'm sensing like through all this and this is in the beginning stages but i think i have this peg you remember that james houston thing we had mm-hmm a couple minutes ago yeah by couple minutes ago i mean like two days ago where yeah just like the absurdity of it all and i talked about the jerry golf thing that i believe is still under the surface i believe it's there oh yeah and they and they are just praying for an opportunity to reveal themselves the jerry golf people you know who i'm talking about um i think that this i think that this josh Reynolds thing is going to be the next version of this really i do people i think that people think it's a whole there's either well there's either the people that are under the surface with it right now because you know how the people don't want to jump out in front and you know make things a big deal right because everything's everybody's hyped up we're ready to roll there's not really any negativity that you can even bring to the forefront all right but it's in the back pocket don't you worry about that it's in the back pocket for some i do believe that this is going to be the next version of that i do how do you figure kneel because of because of what you said there are growing segment of people like yourself and look i'm not killing you i'm not yeah i'm not the josh Reynolds thing i just think you want an explanation of it because they still do have a ton of cap space in in relation to the rest of the NFL i just believe because Reynolds signed early yeah in free agency i believe that there were maybe some things they had their eye on that maybe didn't materialize that yeah that didn't shake out the way that they wanted to shake out and it cost them Reynolds i would think if they know then or if they knew then what they know now maybe they would have signed Reynolds maybe they would have yeah if if they would have known that Donovan people's Jones and the preseason quarterbacks would have a 1.9 passer rating when targeting him and that he would ultimately be cut yeah they probably would have kept Josh Reynolds and i'm fully confident of that and in that regard with Donovan people's Jones it was a very inexpensive miss and that's okay the lions are going to be fine well it wasn't it wasn't an inexpensive miss and this is the reason i bring this all up is this is people now lions fans they have to be comfortable with these types of things because do you like almond rassane brown locked up long term yeah i do do you like jeregolf locked up long term i do do you like penne sule locked up long term i do will you like eight and hudginson when he's locked up long term i will these are the cost thank you very much you can't you can't do it all man the little where you can save eight million here and you can save three million here and you can save six million there you add all that up that becomes 20 million real real quick well and that's where tim patrick could ultimately if he ever regains his form from 2020 or 2021 or at least a version of that in this lion's offense where he could be extremely valuable because he is as depreciated as they come right now he hasn't played a snap into nfl since 2021 he suffered to what could end up being debilitating injuries which is why i compared him to uh he could potentially be the next immanuel moseley that could work out i might might my thing with all of this and what this told me though was that the lions they did value that x receiver i think that they could do an offense without it as long as everybody's fully healthy but another thing that tim patrick could potentially bring you is if there's injuries in the wide receiver room maybe he's a guy that stepped up we saw it with josh Reynolds at the beginning of last year when j-mo missed the first four games and then almond raw missed game five josh Reynolds was on pace for damn near a thousand yards for that game and then when all when they got fully healthy he assumed his role and didn't produce as much and then when they got into the playoffs against the rams when they needed him he was the best receiver on the field in that first quarter in which the lions scored two touchdowns more than half of their points in that game if if they can get an inexpensive version of that with tim patrick it'll be a home run you just worry about his injuries all right there's a comment here in the chat that i believe is his don't it's its own segment and i'm gonna address it i can't wait we're gonna talk about it but first if josh Reynolds is looking to buy a new home you might have to hit up mark white or you can sell the one he had here sell the one he had here you can sell the tim patrick and mark white could be right in the middle of it save up to five grand and your closing cost by hitting up mark white associates mark white cells dot com or two four eight two 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might see it with like an iffy or a darrick barge just to name a couple of examples yes yes you did so so you understand the concept of what i'm speaking about yes and this is new to us so when when i get pushed back on it i'll i'll understand it i won't agree with it but i'll understand it because you're just not educated enough in this it's too new and so when i get comments in the willward sports chat thread and please jump in i've never blocked anybody in my life nor will i ever block anybody in my life because we need them all but i do have to address uh is it zay zay in the chat that says quote stop the excuses kneel really zay so tell me that you don't understand how the real world works in the nfl tell me again how you don't understand being a good football team in the nfl and how that goes because guess what the Kansas city chiefs had to do mm-hmm they traded Tyree kill yeah and then they won the super ball this is how it works twice this is how it works zay when you can cut a corner zay you cut a corner because that's what you have to do and guess who's coming up next shoal's locked up golf's locked up same brown's locked up guess who's coming up next hutch aden hutchinson yep gonna need to be locked up you were talking about cornerstones of your team here zay and this is how it's going to be you can't keep everybody and get comfortable with this if you're a lion's fan even if your new money lion's fan zay this is how it works it's not me making excuses zay it's me looking around and seeing how this works the chief traded Tyree kill yeah zay and won the super bowl zay twice zay fucking zay where the chiefs say were people making excuses for the chiefs zay no they weren't it's the cost of being good in the nfl you've got tough decisions you have to make zay i know your new money and that's fine zay so we'll let it go this time but please listen when i this is the new economy for good football teams flannel that's still so wild that the chiefs were able to just trade Tyree kill and keep it pushing to the i mean they they've won many more swivels without them than with them they changed the outlook of their team they made it a defensive team and a running team absolutely i mean pacheco guys like mcduffy and carloftis i mean those are that's those are the things bolton yeah yeah absolute game and then we quarter back in the game manager role okay it's patrick mohomes it's not a game no i say an elite quarterback in the game manager role because they turned into a defensive and running team patrick mohomes had an mvp in 2020 it's his name his name willy gay is his name gay shanal maybe it maybe i'll break it leo shanal shanal shanal is certainly a little gets very good players need obviously that was one of the big ones too i mean he was there when Tyree kill was there but they they drafted him i believe in a 2020 but yeah your your point is uh well taken because i i was saying this during the break or even at the end of a last break you're gonna have to make some decisions after this season on levion zurike if he melofomu and eric berns not all of them are going to be here and we'll lee mcnewson how did i forget a lee mcneill yeah it's just probably the biggest one i know it is the biggest one i just put him almost in a separate category but he is the one imagine a world where a lee mcneill doesn't get paid and i'm not saying that i want it to happen i'm just saying that it's on the table when you draft as well as brad homes has you're gonna have to give guys hefty extensions which he has and we're gonna see it with hutch as well and down the road you might you know down the road like a brian branch of laporta i think those two are probably the most likely in in terms of that draft class so not everyone's gonna get to uh come with you there might even be a be um there might even be a scenario one day and i'm not calling for it to where jamir gibbs doesn't make it past his uh first five years he's a running back that's very likely by the way yes i mean history says it yes uh zay in the chat Reynolds was cheap as hell got a two-year nine million dollar deal guess what else we have to be comfortable with zay at all you know what that is kaleef ramen steps up and takes a three job yeah that's that's how this is going to work you can't have them both you can't have them both and kaleef ramen's on of the same deal as Reynolds you know except he's got a cheap out after this year if they do want to cut him if he doesn't seize the job kaleef ramen is the third receiver even for the tim patch like i know that our numbers banged when we we put out our tweets and everything talking about all you know tim patrix here guess what to the lions they hope it never comes to that in the lion's perfect world guess what kaleef ramen catches 50-60 passes next year for 700 yards and four touchdown well and with kaleef ramen you've and we've we've said it before the things you can count on from kaleef ramen ever since he's been a lion he's going to get you about 550 yards and he's going to make a player to throughout the season where you're just like wow who had the punt return against the jets a game you don't win without without it kaleef ramen who caught the touchdown pass from Tom Kennedy kaleef ramen who cut a touchdown on a flea flicker in the Seattle Seahawks game kaleef ramen who had that catch that where he landed at like the one foot line on one of the greatest throws i've ever seen from jaren goss yeah this is best throw at green bay kaleef ramen so there's certainly value to him it's just when when it comes to tim patrick i just think it's more of like an archetype thing i think the whole three wide receiver three or wide receiver four is a little bit surmountable right but it's going to be kaleef ramen he's a period end of story he's he makes plays for the lions he gets open and nobody's talking about kaleef ramen nobody threw all the you would have thought that we had almond rasane brown and jameson williams and then we were destitute the rest of the way like we were strung out on the street corner see i i disagree i think people just know that he's going to be there like there was no positional battle oh you mean like everything you want a third wide receiver there's if there's one and i'm not saying i agree with this if there's one flaw with like a kaleef ramen being on as as as to where you don't necessarily want him as your three and this is semanical you could argue that he's a little redundant with almond rasane brown and then you add is a williams to the mix they're just i mean they're all primarily slot guys although they can all play outside to a some extent otherwise a williams didn't do that hardly at all at illinois it's that's like quarterback not like i mean a little bit but i would i would bet if i'm betting man i'll put money on and is a williams touched on past this year that's wouldn't be shocking at all might be a return man too yeah uh what were sports chat thread jump into their uh art van elle but zay one is fantasy football league though kneel yes i know uh zay kneel zay kneel excuse machine okay uh cat spot that's a dumb take by kneel because the only teams that have won super bowl is paying quarterbacks huge contracts have had elite quarterbacks detroit model doesn't work brand and cats is on exit four on the highway and easy even came to terms with the golf is under the 12 percent rule this year i i saw that text he put in the thread yes that is my problem with easy it's i mean it's true it's it's true there's only three quarterbacks yeah this year this year yes yes so if you so we school with it yeah but the next year he's not well because yeah because then you get hit with a bigger cap it there's only three but that's the only way you can have them there's only three quarterbacks in the history of the NFL that have won over that percentage and it's Peyton Manning uh Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes off is under that number this year and we all i think they're going to win the super world this year yeah well they're going to get one at some point as i said with this yes may not be this year but they will get one i think it's going to be this year well and that's what i don't i don't understand when zay says excuse me be it's a gay gay probably shouldn't have done that i was uh mentioning willy gay name earlier and uh i bet that just stepped out no what canceled cancel even now oh i fucking love your flavor what's it we all think that it's good that that it's Super Bowl or bus for the Lions this season so i don't get what he's saying about excuse making the uh the expectations haven't changed so i don't know if he was trying to use something different or what but the expectations haven't changed so what are your feelings on that not okay all right let's go to break shut up willy gay starting linebacker for the uh canvass chief shut up Rudy gay shut up Rudy gay somebody by the last name gay i met 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say yeah maybe the best of them all yeah there you go are we done let me know when you guys are done it's just too late can i tell you about my top five list yes all right it is time for the top and guys i've been waiting for this one at least for one top five top five top five games i'm stunned that one was brought out right nph is up there for sure oh 100 oh yeah fight number one yeah dude tyson gay might be it yeah for real what about marvin gay not marvin gay is yeah but he he loses points because there's a e on the end right yeah that's fair yeah 2k 16 rooty gay no absolutely not nice with it i dropped 75 points no he used to go crazy it's okay neo no don't he realized he was a superstar top five wednesday everyone there's been a lot of excitement for this one judging by you guys uh in the chat and uh it is top five Gibraltar trade center booths yeah for those of you that know you know for those of you that don't don't this is segmented all right sand flannel is no idea what your brought their trade center is a damn we're gonna learn to learn to do it right you're gonna learn uh young Justin no idea what your brought their trade center is go learn uh flannel will will read dmax list we will react accordingly to dmax when flannel when flannel uh reads them um i'm telling you guys now see what you guys did you're wrecked this now people are talking about liberachi man john freddie mercury yeah he's up there yeah kevin bacon i don't know i can't confirm that but okay oh no no no no no no why it's why it's why did it's time to stuff who's got that Kentucky video is that ad or cat no that's ad that was horrible all right so top five list what happened man since what happened i love our chat there will be no more references to quote liberachi okay all right we're done with that rest of be an adult grow up okay top five top five to roll their trade center boots i just i want it on here why we got yodie's game oh man all right okay i want and and again all of the uh flooding of the chat right now uh what somebody legit said in the chat they have a tattoo from gibberle their trades that's true so that's so legit has it so without any further do why is it a top five list because it's half as boring as a top 10 list i resent that go ahead it's accurate though go ahead all right some else too all right here we go everybody top five trade center boots my top five at number five this is the one i was talking about yeah the harmonica booth they gave it it was strictly harmonica said it was really and don't act like you didn't buy one but one for sure never knew how to play it but it was cool i think it was a star wars harmonica that i bought that a booth of strictly harmonica that was that was a very cool booth at number four the weapons from the far east we already is sword yeah the ninja sword samurai sword the ninja stars all the non-chucks nudge we had so many of those in my house there were multiple samurai swords a couple non-chucks a couple bo staffs it was very cool and number three i've got the exotic pets booth yes i've bought no lizard or two from from Gibraltar i mean it's what happens they don't live very long but it's cool but you got one yeah so at number two i have the manga and look at how fired up he is about to do it those were awesome exotic pet station come on at number two i got the manga and comic books because there's just so much of the manga section in the comic book section i'll go there i'll buy a shit ton of it we had so many different spider-man comic books yeah so many different dragon ball and one piece in bleach manga and then at number one the pokemon and yugio card booth that you didn't know if they were real you didn't know if they were you call you saw the coolest graphic of dark magician you've ever seen right and it ends up just being a sticker you could pull right off it's going it's going to be cool but it's actually like a dream oh japanese right yeah and but yeah man that was part of the mystique so that's where it was rock rock solid list spenmo as i expected from you is and and as young as you are i'm surprised that you're so versed in Gibraltar it's a staple of mccomb county especially southern mccomb county where you reside for sure um Phil wants to know none chucks of course they had none of those they my parents won't let me get them yeah because they were like real ass none chucks yeah they're really generous about you if they were hard wooden none chucks and metal none yeah that chain one going anywhere on them yeah they were real ass none chucks just like the digital stars you got somebody all right brown number five thumbs up thumbs up they had a whole ass harmonica it was yeah um yes uh tyler m which Gibraltar Trade Center the original taylor or monk clement they whichever one you feel but we shade towards monk clement yes we absolutely do kg yes sir adding second mine is top five wednesday top five spinning head and don't win that is what is that did you get that on a t-shirt at your ball through trade center airbrush i did not i did not uh this is a snap chat filter so that is what i'm going to look like that's honest he's that was on a t-shirt at the Gibraltar Trade Center airbrush that you could absolutely got that at your ball to trade center but that's what kg's gonna look like an opening day if they were still on the roster if they were still around i would legit get that out of airbrush t-shirt you damn right with uh uh loomie's most character on air too absolutely j 1967 the pizza there was so greasy my honorable mention is the food court because man that pizza was so good but so greasy pool of greasy i guess it was so good though oh yeah you could get beer there beer penis anything you get out of base my game you can get at your ball to trade center man hold on here keel says that disgusting and clothing stand on oh yeah so all right so honorable mentions was the food court of course and the sports memorabilia uh stand of course the the jerseys the autographed everything the cards it was all great man but coming in at number five was uh just my one of my first memories of your ball tour the work clothes stand my mother shout out to my mom crystal i love you she was a cna foot over 25 almost 30 years and they would sell scripts nurses groups at the works and jumpsuits get out of the jumpsuits they had it all man so we would go there to buy scrubs that's why we were even in your ball tour in the first place hold on hold on real quick zay in the chat damn this store sounds lit it is all zay all right sorry go ahead um number four the knockoff jewelry stand how do you not love the knockoff jewelry stand man they don't act like you didn't you didn't have tons of chains listed the best cubic zarconia this state has ever produced the herringbone yeah oh my god dude all i believe they handled the whole film cast for new jack city as you've all their trade center the PML stand the poochy shells though they did man shout out everything on that damn counter-returning that green but yep at number three the cinnamon almond stand yeah a staple prominent miler yes one of the first males you smell when you walk in next to the smell of like depression and you know it yep it's a desperation um at number two like spitty said the japanese weapons stand the far east stand knows you want to call real shoes real metal and the funny part is this was right next to the gun stand the gun stand was right next to the japanese weapons stand i still got one i can bring in my ninja sword tomorrow oh man i'll bring in nutshuts if you do i have a pair of nutshuts oh i'll bring Detroit crossover to new possibilities with the first ever Buick Invista now a short line Buick refined versatile intuitive tech friendly cargo loving and best of all Invista is fun to drive the flowing exterior of the Invista is easy on the eyes and inside you will experience a quiet ride thanks to quiet tuning with active noise cancellation apple car play android auto and wireless charging will keep you connected visit short line Buick today and experience all Buick has to offer in its new lineup of vehicles at short line you do the drive-in we'll do the rest it is ryan c crest here there was a recent social media trend which consisted of flying on a plane with no music no movies no entertainment but a better trend would be going to chumba casino dot com it's like having a mini social casino in your pocket chumba casino has over a hundred online casino style games all absolutely free it's the most fun you can have online and on a plane so grab your free welcome bonus now at chumba casino.com sponsored by chumba casino no purchase necessary vgw group void we're prohibited by law 18 plus terms and conditions apply arrow the leather stand with the long duster oh my god yes in the fake first but at number one i had to look up the name of this stand it's the comics and stuff stand literally everything oh yeah uh movies uh uh vhs dvd video game uh a wrestling memorabilia comics anime anything you want it at this stand i used to live at this stand i beg my mind from some from this stand every time that is my top five uh drabaltor stands uh nick hattigan chimes in yo the no limit chain was my favorite drabaltor purchase oh yeah that's great there's no limit chain at drabaltor oh my god and flannel you see this working right now and i and i know you have no you can't pull relevance to it because you are not from here in your mind cannot you're ill in my mind cannot comprehend but picture the flea market yeah okay that's a sense it was it was it was the greatest flea market in the history of flea market yeah no you can get all these items they're appliances like you name it yeah probably so you can buy a child like you get for real somebody's corridors in place it was weird you didn't get anything ronk uh i i was there spent thirty five dollars and got a huge bag of beef jerky oh yeah um mike gi i mike gi's kind of a bullshitter so i don't know if he's being true but he says i still have my nunchucks and throwing stars they were real last throwing stars i told you they had wood there you could throw this stuff into to try it yeah yeah wow it was legendary yes man i'm certain it's funny because i'm a privy to uh meal and d mex list already but i'm just hearing your guys's what the f is that place oh it's a magical place it is all right p man all right i'm near a little earlier now d meck uh d meck is not here so i will have you do this yes flannel you can read the list will do the reactions accordingly dara mccarty's top five jabralter staff all right number five this actually seems relatively tame to trade t-shirts and they they're a close cousin of the airbrush page yet on the face shirt i demand now i need to get that yeah we got to get twitty bird in the background yeah it's always a random loony tool character on here no no doubt about it honestly shout out to him there's probably some with uh mccarty 25 on the back oh yeah big fact and number four uh knifes are us yeah oh yes this was a close cousin to the far east to the far east or what is it without what is a flea market without an off-brand knife store absolutely all knives all the time all the time and they the same deal like you could test the sharpness of it now you bought them and you brought them home they got dull as hell very fast i was looking at old pictures they had a contact lens there yeah i got no joke bro don't joke it you know them were used you know they were yes all right sorry go ahead oh it's okay number three memorabilia and sports car yeah i i'll get to it i have it on my list i'll expand more yes all right number two the uh leather store the only place you were buying a leather jacket i'm talking like now before people came in you know with trench coaches trench coats and shot up scoot shot up schools this was before that time right where you were yeah yeah it was trench coats were normalized right there you were a duster and not be a a flight risk right absolutely this was a this was a glorious time you could go just go get a leather trench coat and not you know and not be wondered about when you walked in a building yeah you know that that's uh went back when we were a real country and i don't even know just that a description sounds like a type of place i want to be it all right and number one juggalo washing yeah and that's what it all and it's not even a ball no that was there even a booth yeah that was the error of the juggalo it's the reason you win yeah it's the reason you went was just to see the other people if you were down on your luck oh if things weren't going your way right if you had a lot of questions about your life you could just pay the dollar fifty and park your car at your brawler yeah and look around for 20 minutes and be like you know what i'm okay my life's not okay i'm okay i'm thriving like i say you thought walmart was bad walmart what this was the og walmart super walmart super walmart people watching oh yeah so it is it was the best man i learned some things about uh the juggalo culture when i got here because i had a former boss who actually claims to be a former juggalo oh wow when i heard that at icp concerts that they pour fago on the audience oh yeah it was the one more than any sex in the mud yeah it was doing a lot more today so much griminess yeah oh yeah that's what being a juggalo juggalo is great yeah and guess where you can get the little parachute pants with the chains on them and i'm going to come full circle uh a tour lmao i think neil is fiving about how many times he went to jabralter i'm a pretty big member billi a guy so i was at jabralter of a fair amount and plus remember too i grew up in rosville it's not that far away um this stuff in air street yeah absolutely you know my parents worked in the car factories man grew up in rosville yeah you was in jabralter for sure not 100 i was there and here's your list and i think it's what makes me who i am because yes i can live in the hills of washington township and look down on everyone but i know what it's like i know what you people down there are going through yeah i went through it too at one time and if you pull yourself up by your bootstrap maybe you can do it too all right my top five that's a big new big kneel pull yourself up for your bootstrap slam look at that absolutely yeah that's back in the big kneel place that's one furnace kneel right that that is true uh my top five jabralter stand number five the cinnamon almond stand it created the most unique smell because that's the first thing you noticed and then it wasn't till you took a couple steps in that you smelled despair right and desperation and failure you know but hey that just goes to show you the power of the cinnamon almond stand even got you through the tough times at calmerica park number four the tattoo stand i do not have a tattoo it's wild to me that there was a tattoo stand and you know that it thrived yeah you know i never not saw anyone in there getting a tattoo oh yeah it was right about interest there was always somebody getting a tattoo yeah always and those guys had pretty dirty fingernails that were putting the tattoos on i'm just saying those needles were not clean that was not a quality tattoo no it was not a quality tattoo on number three the pet store the same vein now spenny and i were kids back then yeah we didn't understand he just thought it was cool you could get an iguana yeah or a lizard or a chameleon or something like that it wasn't till i started like dead in a week and it wasn't until like i started going to south florida regularly for work i understood how that trade worked yeah they would just go down there and take them and bring them up here and bring them up here and sell them to spenny wholesome in an environment they had no chance to live in an iguana in january it's not going to work it's not going to work but shot out hey now never hate your hostel the tapestry oriental rug store the fake tapestry they had the rugs up on that you flip through them like posters back in the day and people were buying it man people were buying it right bed bugs central oh yeah big fans big fan yeah no no doubt uh and number one the memorabilia and sports card store uh you could get a dara macardi autograph there a braille and edwards autograph all of it yeah all of it they would have the signings i bought my andrey wear signed houston mini helmet there you go fun fact i told you i do the um i do the memorabilia i collect heism and winners a mini helmet that is where i got my andrey wear signed houston mini helmet so that is there um stolen rims and stare at car stereo big car stereo was the one now i purchased i purchased an amp from there and subsequently my trump caught on fire i swear to god it did i swear to god it did oh yeah spenny i'm i'm gonna try put this in a carbureted if y'all can see i 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install right away couple days after the self-installed not to be fair that could have been that could have been a multitude of it could have been user error yeah probably was user errors um i probably was that's the trickle fire it could have been product default pile you know it wasn't like i got a good you know i didn't get rockford faucet amps or anything like that you thought they would they would they wouldn't they wouldn't know yeah there wasn't Kenwood's a rockford faucet it was pile i'm not gonna lie you know it stated five thousand watts it wasn't it was like four hundred tops right you know i know uh it could have been it uh mike gee the best is that you could still haggle at your bawlter for your bottle rocket purchase you could negotiate yeah that is a factor in your bawlter you can definitely negotiate with most of the people in there yep um ryan miller nobody mentioning the donut hole stand man those were good yeah donut hole stand was good solid uh chris blackburn starter jacket you know what i like about this segment too you don't see you're seeing a lot of people in the chat that you don't normally see right oh yeah coming out flannel how sad are you that you were never a part of this oh extremely sad you had these spots in western illinois did you not i mean we had not really to the not not anything in western illinois it sucks i mean at mccollum illinois yet there wasn't a whole lot it was basically just like the campus and it was a really small college town but spring field illinois land a lincoln the abraham lincoln presidential museum horseshoe that's fair that's a huge museum horseshoe how many if you don't get the face flannel power down mellow cream donuts no we good bro uh yeah uh cori berry completely osha compliant tattoo stand completely osha compliant and there's no way uh john the gun and knife shows were legendary all day you know right boys without a point power tools right next to the harmonica stand you're good man oh dude it was the best yeah uh woodward sports chat thread sky dog i got a piston starter jacket at your brawler i think the wings one of my profile picture was bought there as well let's go revving sparti neo looks like an airbrush t-shirt stand cashier in that picture you know a little bit a little bit um absolutely all right keel pyramid speakers as far as the eye could see those bum ass pyramid speaker oh yeah for sure try to get those six by nine's could you save that money from your job a lot of pyramid schemes as well a lot of pyramid schemes going around there oh yeah some cutco knives you can do yeah i went out Oregon donation was going on yeah i i'll tell you for sure some of them corridors you did not want to say you could definitely buy a child that your brawler yeah and it's peak you you probably couldn't buy the child that your brawler you could buy like a but but when a child was one to two phone calls away yeah yeah you could buy like a token to redeem for a child uh dncee nt i do like that's why the younger folk chiming in dnce nt did this place get rated it sounds like it should have no it was it was a staple it was cops do they knew what was going on what was like like have you ever seen the wire like the hamster dam season of the wire where they had that one area of Baltimore where they just let everybody do drugs yeah like that was to roll they're like they just let the shady shit happen because they knew the community would police itself and then if you go after somebody in your balsa you go lose them yeah there's so many fucking stands yeah for sure you can make it easy get away easy get away from the right turns you out are you all yeah never to be seen again yeah um mike g i always got my car stereo gear from micky sure are we sure that was from mike g or was that from jusus could be in bloom too red micky sure oh you buy you buy your uh marine audio equipment from uh micky sure don't you i don't even know who micky sure is micky sure is still around yeah they're still around that's crazy bro uh was 14 and van dyke yeah when i'm driving to dcf yeah i passed by that i'll tell um yeah i i wanted i'm sad that i'm sad i left the furniture store out and i'm sad i left the neon light stories oh yeah the neon lights was fun that was bad i had different little animated pictures you could put on your wall and stuff who parted said it wasn't quite the black market it was the dark brown yeah exactly it was about as close as it gets to a legitimate like black market yes oh that was good stuff man uh nick edgian who was mickie's competitor um they had the red in the gray sign i forget what it was oh micky sure cartoons no it was another place before that i thought no no like they're competitor i think it was cartoons yeah i think that's what they became they were causing those though all right you can pray i know you could get fitness equipment at plan of fitness but for that you would have been better off just going to plan of fitness because 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and the bad you had to beat her man um just get you caught up to date with some of the signings that have been going around uh Ian rapaport says uh the the Kansas City Chiefs have signed bailey zappy uh to their practice squad so he's there uh Desmond Ritter has signed with the cardinals practice squad Austin Reed assigned with the Bears practice squad sam Hartman assigned with the commanders practice squad lions brought back Trevor nooski Trevor nooski is back with the lions as well the Panthers have signed four cornerbacks since tuesday's chases so there's that one they must have a problem at that position they must and it's not even their biggest problem which is pretty wild to say um the cowboy signed uh dalvin cook for those that missed they have a great running game seven years ago oh the los angeles chargers grabbed us on haskins weird hey putting the band back together i mean jk davins is probably going to get hurt yeah i mean that's safe to this one but guss edwards will not that's facts he's my he's my low-key dude i i got guss edwards hand-cuffed the jk davins in every draft i did yeah hey but has son haskins uh nice uh depth piece running back actually probably not he hasn't done a whole oh tennessee grabbed a defensive end out of louisiana state ollie gay look at that there you go stand up it's all you're saying hey yeah at all come on come on it all started because i was i was mentioning the the good chief defensive players william gay and uh they also tennessee also grabbed defensive back out of east carolina julius wood so or going down this route tennessee grabbed gay wood on waivers damn jesus christ that's just factual statement those are the last names of the people that they signed how does that make you feel yeah fine fine wood now in tennessee well i think that that's that's a good place to stop i really i really think that it is um gw the kid jusus stay up man it was good having you around insta any final words any final words in studio it was an absolute pleasure to be a part of big d i'd hope that when i come back there is a possibility that i can do something involved again with big d because i enjoyed my time here thank you so much to all you guys for anything and everything that you guys have done and thank you chat for all the support i appreciate it so you you you got the drive man you're you're willing to pay the price i admire that i see a lot of myself in you so uh uh that is it uh no freddy felt i will not be saying well gay you later no i i will not i will not be doing that flannel i get mad as a matter of fact come on she said anything else for you to say all right you know what why am i bearing the front of this song why why do i always have to do the heavy lifting right uh your thoughts on the show today what were what what did you like what did you not like flannel what can we be better at tomorrow i mean the the uh i would love to talk about college football tomorrow but i understand the ujibaltor trade center kind of hijacked also not enough college for you huh kg i can't win with you today man why is that what it was specifically about working with kg do you not enjoy i love working with kg we've just worked we've had a long day today together and it's a good day a good day with uh with kg too hey jews is too and uh speaking of which uh gonna miss you man and uh but it's not goodbye you will still be here uh following the footsteps of uh noa and a calib yes let's do that well you was the safety on a back pill Steve Lehman kneel is it because of the two furnaces that you see you're a lot of yourself in jews us maybe that is it maybe that is it could be true that that could be uh yeah you have a boat and potassium you are yeah f-type uh i'm not going to mention uh flannel and whose swords he's falling on uh by the way i knew that was coming maybe you want from jibaltor trade ring jesse weaker home though please in free agency tigers bring jesse weaker home well you follow no no i will 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