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So, follow and listen to Mind the Business, Small Business Success Stories on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts. Okay, I'm quite excited about this. Let's get into it. Must watch from BBC 5 Live. There you go. It is time for some TV. Welcome to Must Watch. Haley Campbell, Scott Bryan, here to talk about and review the big television releases. Hello. Hello. Haley, what have we got? What are we reviewing this week? Well, we've got a new one from Netflix called Chaos, which is all about the Greek gods and stars Jeff Goldblum as Zeus. That's all I need for that pit, really. Yeah, there you go, Scott. We'll also review in Colin from Accounts, which is for turning for a second series this week. And Documentary, there's the Lensky Story, which is a free part on BBC 2, looking at the life and career of President Zelensky. Okay, so we're going to have to explain how this works because this is a new slot for me. Obviously, you've done it. Thank you very much. Okay, so I've also watched these because you guys tell me what you pick and what I should have a look at. Now, am I allowed to offer a little bit of an opinion or do I just have to pretend to agree and think you're all brilliant at the time? I think you should tell us what you think. Okay, Scott. Don't hold back. 100% because we're not like, you know, what Haley and I say are our opinions. I think we're not like God in terms of saying only the right and wrong thing. This is a great show. This is a rubbish show. But also what I love is hearing people who might disagree because sometimes I change my mind. I'm not always set in stone about how I think about TV. I've talked you round to a few shows. Have you been talked round, Haley? Because I'm also trying to get a gauge on your personalities as well. Now, I think because I've listened to "Mustwatch" many a time, Scott often gets messages from me. [growling] Haley, you're quite dark. I like dark things. I like bleak documentaries and weird shows. I like detectives. I especially like them if they're tired women. That's my thing. Um-hmm. Olivia Coleman's great at those. Oh, so good. Queen of it. And Kate Winslet. Yes, yes. Sarah Lancashire. All of them. I love them all. But, you know, sometimes there have been weird shows, weird dating shows that I've liked when I usually despise dating shows and resent the fact that I have to watch them for "Mustwatch". Yes, I'm a bit worried about having to watch reality TV shows because I do just think they're a waste of my time. And that's not me being snobby. That's just me not liking them. Scott, are you bringing the sweetness and light to the rim? I think so. I mean, I tend to like documentaries. I love finding out about things. I think of like a sign of a great documentaries when it takes you into something that you knew nothing about and you end up learning a lot of information and get completely absorbed by someone's enthusiasm. Or when you have a documentary, and I'm not giving it away, where you think you know stuff about, and actually you learn lots more. Yes, exactly. I love drama. Absolutely love drama. I love seeing a growth of a show, so like a comedy that ends up becoming a massive global sensation. I tend to not like true crime that much. It takes me a lot to win me over. Well, there are very tacky true crime things. There's a whole spectrum of true crime. There's the very, very good, and then there's the very, very bad, and we watch them all. Yeah, but I think what I love about doing this show is that sometimes I think that I can work out Hayley exactly. From watching a show, I go to myself, "Oh, this Hayley's going to hate this." And then Hayley then surprises me. And I think there's also a few times when you've been pleasantly or shocked when I go the complete other way than how I think. And we never tell each other before the show. Right, okay, because I saw Scott because I didn't see you in the office earlier. I saw Scott in the office earlier. I don't think I told you if I, "Oh, yeah, I did. I did ruin it." Should we make that a rule? We don't have a law. Yeah, okay, so the law of must watch do not give your opinion to anyone until we're live on it. Okay, so we've learned that. We've established that. Should we start with these must watches? So this used to be the section called Download Yeah. So this would be where you'd recommend a show that you've seen and you think everyone should watch. Yeah. And we love feedback, by the way. So text 85005A. There's an email. What's the email? Our swatch@bbc.co.uk. Because we want recommendations as well, don't we? Yes, because this section used to be called Download, but I think we changed the name because we realized that I don't think anyone's downloaded anything TV-wise. You know, 10 years. But I really like it when people use that email address to argue with us. Tell us we were wrong and why. Those are my favorites. They're all red as well. So just give Scott and Hayley more work to do. That always works. Okay. So a pick from you, Hayley. So I thought I'd recommend something weird and obscure to set the tone for the kind of stuff I bring to this part of the show. So I've got a documentary called Three Salons at the Seaside, and you can find it on BBC iPlayer. It's a documentary by Philippa Lothorp, and she made it in 1994. It's about three hair salons in Blackpool that seem to cater exclusively to women over 70. So we're talking purple rinse, blue rinse. Yep, and ladies sitting under the big egg-shaped hairdryer thing, and it's only 40 minutes long. And another thing on this show is if something has a short runtime, I will tell you. The shorter the better. The shorter the better, but it's not like I don't like things that are long. I just think the longer you have, the more sort of flabby things become. So I like things to be tight and good all the way through. And this one, at 40 minutes long, I think it's a precious treasure, and I would watch hours of this thing. And it's not just nostalgia because there is that, but it's the incredibly human stuff that it records. And I actually ended up in tears watching this documentary. We see lots of old ladies getting their hair done, obviously. But while that's happening, the postman comes in or the man who sells pies or fish, and everyone's having this big chat about their daily lives, which might sound kind of uninteresting or meaningless. They're the best conversation. They are the best. And if you listen to what they're saying, it paints this detailed picture of life and love and sorrow, because most of these women are widows. And a lot of them only see people when they get their hair done once a week. And they're just looking after each other. One of the bits that really got to me is one of the ladies who owns one of the salons. And they're all different salons. There's a high-end one and a kind of lower-end one. But there's one lady who has this special black handbag that she loans out to all the ladies as they attend their various funerals. And she calls it the funeral handbag, and she always makes sure there's mints in it or a bit of money. And she said that she likes the idea that they have this thing that they can hold on to when they're going through something hugely emotional, that someone else has cared for this bag, and someone who cares for them has loaned them this bag. And these salons are the place they go when they're trying to figure out what their new lives are or who they are now, now that they're alone. And it's honestly one of the most moving things I've ever seen. And I know that sounds a bit depressing. So I thought I should also point out that it is deeply funny because these old ladies are sitting under the hairdryer and they're taking the mickey out of each other, and they're calling each other tough old birds. And it's just gorgeous to watch. You know, did you say 1994? Yes. So it's at a time, really, where I think, and we're in different times now, where women of a certain age were just dismissed out of hand, no longer contributing to society of no interest, be it sexual career, any ambition or any impact on society. So I think it would be really interesting to see. And it would have been an education at that time of not writing older women off. And so when you look at that back now, that I think would be the joy of it for me as well. And looking at what they're going through quietly, because they're not telling anyone else about it except for the other women at the salon. They're looking after their dying husbands and they have no help. And, you know, they just pop out to the salon to be a human again. It's just that one piece of respite. Yeah. The late, great Carolina Hearn used to watch this documentary all the time, because in the BBC doc that was out just before Christmas, she said she used to go and put us on. And of course, she was a master at capturing how people talk, and we then put that into her comedy and was what made her such a national success. It's gorgeous. They've all got names like Mavis and Betty. There's so many Betty's that when one Betty dies, they've got to figure out which Betty it was. That's not funny, but it is funny. Are there loads of episodes? Was it just one? Nope, just one 40 minutes long. Oh, my life. You've sold that well. It's a really good one, I promise. Okay, Scott, can you beat that? Ooh, I've got nothing like a dame, which is also one off. It came out in 2018. I saw this first on TikTok. I then put it on Twitter, and this clip got retweeted 16,000 times. Okay. And it really captures, I think, the spirit of the show. It's a really simple concept. They've got four of the UK's most well-known and respected actors, Dame Maggie Smith, so from Harry Potter, Dame Elina Atkins, Dame Judy Dench, and Dame Joan Plowwright. Just to talk about their careers, they've been friends. Between them, they've been acting collectively for more than 250 years, being in some of the most well-known films in the country. And this 90-minute special just features them chatting. It literally is a 2010s version of The Golden Girls. Where are they? Where are they placed? What's the scene? Just a stately home, and they have tea. So, I think it's called Tea with the Dames in the US. It's called Nothing Like a Dame in the UK. And they reflect on the difficulties they've had with their careers. There's a lot of chat about directors they've loved, directors they've hated, not having confidence. They look back at all of their old clips, and they sigh and bemoan about how they were acting then. But the best bit is when, like, one of them, I think, Maggie Smith has a go at Dame Judy Dench with love, reinstealing all of the UK roles whenever there's a big year of production. And Judy Dench is absolutely aghast. And then is interrupted by one of them saying that, basically, when they go to the US, their agent says, "We'll find you a nice little cameo that Judy Dench hasn't taken first." Did you both agree on an older lady thing? No, we just love old lady. No, I just want to kind of establish you two have known each other for a long time. Ages. About a decade, because we both used to work at Buzzfeed, when that was more established, and then Hailey left first. I think it was a time when we properly became friends because when we were both invited onto the sort of pointless. Yes. And we both competed. It never aired. It was a journalist. Yeah, it was a little journalist, Jolly, but we weren't very good. We didn't win the trophy. And I asked Richard Osman if we could have the trophy anyway, and he said, "No." Don't ask, don't get it. Don't ask, don't get it. I was used to some point in this as well. But we also have that in common too. OK, so I just want to make sure that there's not this kind of telepathy that you two have that has grown. No. But this is a sign of it, both making it both sound wonderful. How do I get hold of nothing like a day? Unfortunately, it's not on streaming, but you can purchase it for about two pounds from most places. On DVD. No, no, no. I'm streaming website. Hailey looks horrifying. I mean, it is available on DVD. But on streaming websites, I found it for like £1.99. Like a pay per view. Like a pay per view. Oh, OK. Frustratingly. OK. Frustratingly. But may I just say it is worth it? Yeah, it is a very rare recommendation that we bring to must watch where you have to pay per view. I'm going to say, sometimes it's a good one and you have to. And this one has so many names in it. I really resent paying for things online because I always think that I've already paid my monthly subscriptions for who knows how many and I just think I'm not paying for any more. So I always wait. So we'll see. I know that's a bad thing. It's just... Well, sometimes I do it to watch anyway. Sometimes I do it because I know I've got the DVD somewhere. But I can't be bothered to go and find it. That's more money than sense. I've got the DVD somewhere and you'd russ and money. Then get off your bottom and look for something. My goodness. I'm getting to know you. So I did say you can email your television show recommendations, thoughts on the reviews as well, to mustwatch@bbc.co.uk. I will get that email into my head. Have we had any email, Scott? We have. We've got this from Alex in Radlet, his dear new team. Best of luck to you, Naga. And try not to get sidetracked too much in your first episode. Have I? No, so far you're doing quite well. I have an amazing series that I binged on, Disney Plus, that recently came out called We Were the Lucky Ones. It follows a Jewish family in Poland who gets separated during World War II and have to endure some of the horrors of the Holocaust. It is a stunning story based on the New York Times bestselling book of the family split and fortunate reunification many years later. It is a certain must watch and that's a Alex. I think that's one of those things that sounds like if I had a Sunday afternoon, rainy Sunday afternoon, and I really wanted to watch something that was nourishing and that I wouldn't have time to pay full attention to during a busy work week or anything. That is when I would watch something like that. We have definitely given mustwatches based on the weather before. Yeah, and hangovers as well. That's not a hangover one. No. No, it's usually an ITV detective show that's a hangover one. Okay. Okay. And we had any other emails, Hayley. We've got this one from Barney in Sussex who says hello, Naga, Hayley and Scott. That's nice. You get to go first. I'd like to recommend something oldish which can be found on Hayley's favourite streaming service. Now TV, a little backstory there. I have long standing beef with this because I just find it hard to work and it shouldn't be that hard. No, it shouldn't. I have not found it hard to work but I don't watch it so there's a point. Well, there you go. This series is weird, beautiful, touching, emotional and often surprising. Losties, that's people who like lost, will know the leftovers but maybe not everyone caught it at the time. Stemming from a global anomaly where people spontaneously disappear from earth, the series chronicles the aftermath of this event and how it impacts Justin Thoreau's family and community. Featuring the talented and luminous Carrie Coon plus Liv Tyler and Margot Quali, you'll be enchanted, moved and confused in equal measure but always intrigued. I don't think I've even ever seen a series that completely changes the opening titles and music from the first to the second series either but it is the definition of quirky. You really must watch this. It says Barney in Sussex. Carrie Coon, she was in that film that I spoke to Elizabeth Olsen. Earlier. Yeah, the three daughters, his three daughters. She's great. Yeah, Carrie Coon, she plays the older sister of the three daughters. A very powerful character actress. You know things to be there. I don't know if it's an old-fashioned phrase, is it? No, she makes good choices as well. She was in a movie called The Nest as well which was a kind of ghost story without ghosts in it. I loved it. Yeah, Elizabeth Olsen was talking about me dropping all these things. Elizabeth Olsen, my old mate, was having a bit of a little bit of that. I did it. You're not listening. I was prepping for the show. Can't do two things at once. Something else I've noticed I've learned about Scott as well. There you go. We're learning all the time. No blaspheming here, please. OK. Oh, we've had a text actually about Elizabeth Olsen. Oh, I will get to Chaos in a moment but just because it's all linked. Claire van Dorsett says, "Hi, Naga. My heart's a little bit broken after hearing your interview with Elizabeth Olsen. The parallels with myself are still raw. I'm the middle daughter of three girls. Looked after my 90-year-old mother for the last three years of her life. The whole complicated dysfunctional gender-heavy emotional utterly exhausting process resulted in my estrangement from my sisters. Things had got so bad we couldn't cope with the all-round deep-rooted fallout. I sound like Elizabeth's character, I think, and I'll watch the film with interest and also no doubt with empathy and many varying emotions. It's such a good thing to see these experiences being played out and delve into such important, different and close relationships which can be improved or destroyed through challenging times. A big thank you. Claire absolutely got what that film was about and it is very, very powerful. And that just shows the power, doesn't it? Anything like that. The three salons. Yeah, perfect example of just taking almost the ordinary and taking a closer look at it. It makes a massive difference. Can we start with our first review? Sure. What do we start with, Kay Haley? Well, we have a mythical black comedy called Chaos, which is created by Charlie Cavell, who is the writer who adapted the graphic novel The End of the World for Netflix. And this one has a wild cast. It's got Jeff Goldblum, David Thullis, Billy Piper, Eddie Isard and more. It's set in the present day and the gist of the show is the all-powerful, yet insecure Zeus, who's played by Goldblum, starts to fear his end of reign once he notices a wrinkle in his forehead, which possibly indicates the end of the world and he becomes paranoid and vengeful. Meanwhile, three humans start to discover their connections with each other and the grand conspiracies involving the Greek gods. Here's a clip. I think my favourite is fire. Oh, look at what we've done. Very good. If I... Let's say the link here. Give it to me. Give it to me. I defy the gods. I don't think that those promos actually give a really good flavour sometimes. I've seen the first episode, so must watch. It is for me. I mean, I think I was pleasantly surprised because there's been so many shows that we've reviewed where there's been a whole new world, a lot of world-building, a massive A-list cast, and it all kind of falls down quite quickly just because it gets quite naughty or because sometimes they spend so much money on it that they forget that there has to be a plot. And I think with Charlie Cavall, they are such a brilliant writer. They wrote the end of the world. It has another word in it and won't mention it. But that is just so sharp, so dark and has a real clear voice going the whole way through it. And I feel that with this story, it manages to take something that is quite complex and quite alien, specifically to me. I don't know that much about Greek or the sea on hormones. I study ancient history. Ancient Roman, ancient Greece at A-level. So I kind of have an interest in this. They have quite an interest in the story. Right. And does it reflect the stories, really? I think if you're going to take something that's quite complicated, like the myths are very... They're complicated in the characters. And you've heard of the name Zeus, you know, Hera, etc. Dionysus. I think you can go one or two ways. You can simplify it too much, or you can assume too much. And I actually think this assumed too much and became big actors over story. Oh, I disagree. It is because I found that, yes, okay, Jeff Goldblum is playing Jeff Goldblum. You know, like there's no denying that he's played the role, and he plays it brilliantly. But I was actually taken kind of him grappling at not being incredibly insecure. His son also trying to kind of get the approval of his father. He is the god of pleasure, but is not really getting any pleasure from being the god of pleasure. I think it's a fact that if we compare this to those about to die, that Amazon Prime Video, and they're a completely different subject, but that was set in ancient Rome, but they introduced us to a world that was so big and so complex and so vast, it lost track of what it was very, very quickly. I mean, that was before you even looked at these special effects in it, which were poor. I found that there were many times when this could have lost its way. It could have become incredibly naughty, but it didn't. I think it was sharp. I think it was well acted. And it was something a bit different. I'm pleasantly surprised, and I wasn't distracted by the big names. Was your assumption, your thing with the assumption? Did you think that they kind of assumed that we knew who the gods were? Absolutely. I felt a bit special when I guessed correctly who people were. Like when Billy Piper came out with a prophecy and no one believed her. I've always said, "Oh, thank you." But when she said, "This is going to happen," and no one believed her, I was like, "Kasandra." It was like a test, right? But I watched it with someone who was going, "What's this about?" And they were actually quite distracted by all the noise and not so. I just think they were distracted by the noise of the acting and the bright lights, the costumes, more than actually learning about what the characters are. Because, wait, you're new guessing, "Kasandra." And that's fine if we... Just wanted to get it on record that I guess. Very fair. But I don't know if I would spend time to watch again. Well, I would. I agree with Scott. I thought it was a must watch. Although I will preface it by saying I will watch anything with Jeff Goldblum in it because I have a problem. But I do think this was way more fun and actually more deep than I thought it was going to be. I think Charlie Cavall plays with Greek mythology in a way that's not dry or academic. And I think there's a lot of stuff in it that's funny and so much life in it. And there's also little bits where it talks about what it is to be human. And there's really kind of sad bits about, well, about death, mostly. Because you get to see the underworld where David Thulis plays the God of Death, which I thought he did a very good job of. And I loved the fact that the underworld was this bureaucratic horror of essentially airport security lines where, you know, they're trying to get you where you're supposed to be and judging you on your whole life. And it's a little bit like the good place in that sense, but less personal. And it's not even pretending to be good. Billy Piper's always, whenever I see anything with Billy Piper, I do. When I saw her on screen, because I don't check anything about show before I review, could I try to go in completely just without any influences. When I saw her, I was like, yes. I mean, Anne-Lay LeFazade, who plays her agent in "I Hate Susie", so they're back together again. I really like this. And I love the fact that, you know, the boatman taking you over the river sticks was, you know, it's a famous image. And in this, it was this massive ferry with hundreds of people having to wear life jackets and being told, you know, don't get too close to the edge. I thought it was quite comic-booky in the sense that everyone has their special power. But comics initially took that from the gods. OK, so a thumbs up from Hailey and Scott. I'm on the fence. All eight episodes of Chaos available on Netflix now. Keep emailing the show, mustwatch@bbc.co.uk. I think this is going to be an interesting section on a Monday. Mustwatch from BBC 5 Live. So, we're in the mustwatch segment. This is going to be regular now, every Monday from around what? 10 past quarter past one till two o'clock. That's when, of course, Matt Chorley is going to be taking over. He joined for 5 Live Stable. We're here from him very shortly. Find out what's going on. But, of course, Scott and Hailey, Hailey and Scott are at the helm of mustwatch. And I am listening eagerly to the things that they think we should or shouldn't watch. Hailey, we've done Chaos. What's next? We've now got a three-part document. Oh, wait, I didn't make you mad. That's the other thing I need to learn, how to use a radio screen. Let's dance again. Well, you've never seen in one before. Hailey, what's next? We've got a three-part documentary series called the Zelensky story, and it charts Zelensky's journey from being a young actor and entertainer to one of the most recognizable leaders on the planet, presiding over a nation at war with Putin's Russia, as well as interviews with Zelensky and his wife. And they're in a circle. The series includes new accounts from world leaders, including Boris Johnson, Nancy Pelosi, former UK Defense Secretary Ben Wallace and more, who each give first-hand testimony of their dealings with Zelensky and Putin in the lead-up to the full-scale military invasion. Here's a clip. For Zelensky, it's an amazing journey. He's always didn't fit to his eyes because he was really small. I was not thinking about any politics. It made people believe the change is possible. I think he is the greatest optimist. When you've made such decisions, he is difficult to always. With exclusive access comes his journey in his own words and those closest to him. You've had to make a choice. What is the price of your life? Okay, I've seen the first episode. "Mustwatch." Yeah, your name. I would say it's a good watch, not a mustwatch. I found this, I mean, well-made. It's done by 72 films. They've also done Shakespeare Rise of a Genius, which we gave a mustwatch earlier in the year. They also did 9/11 One Day in America. I found that this three-parter was good at sort of you finding out more about how we got to where we are in terms of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, but also particularly kind of presence Zelensky's unconventional background. He was a comedian. He was on the Ukrainian version of strictly come dancing. And then, of course, he then became a leader. And now he's in the leader in this war. I think until I watched this documentary, I always saw that as being a matter of circumstance. You know, this kind of how a comedian somehow managed to become the president of Ukraine. I think what I learned from this was actually it's a little bit different than what I thought. So, for example, he became a comedian, became hugely successful, but also he was on a show that was one of the only political, satirical political shows on TV at that time. And the younger generation, who were incredibly tired of corruption and also incredibly frustrated at how badly governed Ukraine was at for time, kind of started to see Zelensky as what could be possible, what could be done instead, hence where he became a voice of a generation and hence how he became president. So, I like that I think it gave more to him and his career. I think it's informative and interesting in terms of hearing people's sort of views about what he is like as an individual and I liked how it flicked between Zelensky and Putin. There's also some very surprising use of archive footage. Did you see the bit when Putin visits number 10? This was under Tony Blair. I know who shakes his hand at the front door, but Gordon Ramsay then cooks him a meal. And I'm a bit like, what? If there wasn't, they weren't at the front door. They'd gone in. Well, they'd gone in for the front door. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Gordon Ramsay was cooking for them. Yeah. I mean, Gordon Ramsay still is, you know, he's prime then. But, you know, just a surprise. But I found it an informative, useful, not like absolutely go out of your way for, but I did find that I learned a lot from it. I like the distinction between must watch and good watch. Yeah. It's a simple distinction, but I like that. Hayley. Well, I think this is a must watch, but I didn't think that until towards the end of the second episode, because it got more into the stuff, like, about what was happening in the hours before the full scale invasion, which I found really interesting because it was basically politicians going, "I know it was mad." But the thing that really struck out, like, stuck out to me in the first episode is that he publicly announced he was running for president before he told his wife. Wow. That's in the first episode, isn't it? Yeah. It's a bonkers relationship, those two have. It really was. And she was angry. And he even apologizes to her on this documentary to the camera again. Do you think he meant it? I don't think so. But he seems regretful, but you've done one big thing to camera. Maybe do the other big thing, not to camera. That was something that I wasn't expecting. But I did find this a kind of unexpectedly emotional watch. I mean, wars are obviously emotional, but there's so much vulnerability in Zelensky that I didn't know about that was highlighted through watching this, and you're really taken with him through this situation, and you kind of see him realizing what a huge thing this was that he'd taken on. And the one that stuck out to me the most was there was a meeting, it was the only ever meeting with him in Putin. It was in December 2019, and he was there with Merkel and Macron, and Putin was basically lying about what was going on, but no one was challenging him on it. And he was sitting at the end of the table being like, pardon? And then the footage is zoomed in, and while everyone else is the other three are kind of chatting together, he's just gathering up his papers, and you can see his face is like, I don't know what just happened. So it showed me aside I didn't know about, but I also think this might be the first political documentary I've ever seen, where members of a comedy group are interviewed about their former colleague, AKA the president. And it's a good insight into how he works, he's the manager, and how he expects things to work, and why he was so loved by the general population before he became a politician. Like, it's a mad story, it's like Martin Sheen from the West Wing became the actual president. Well, Ronald Reagan. This is true. Yeah. Actor, the most powerful man in the world. And also last week, because we review Klitschko, who is a former heavyweight boxer, who then became mayor of Keve, and he doesn't get on with Zelensky. We reviewed that last, that's a sky documentary, so I recommend watching that too. I thought it was really interesting, just referring to that scene, it shows how Putin views Zelensky anyway, views him as a minor comedian, and someone, I mean, he even says he's not someone, you know. Does not take him seriously. Another thing I loved in this thing is he, so he played a president in a film called Servant of the People, and when he became a politician, he got the guy who wrote the screenplay for the film to write his speeches. Well, I mean, if you watch the West Wing, the speeches are amazing. The Toby was great at speeches. Yeah. There you go. Shall we take a look at our final review? What is it? Our final review is Colin from Accounts, which people have been asking me for months about when it is going to return, and it is turning this week. It is the Australian comedy created and written by husband and wife team Harriet Dyer and Patrick Bramble. It is about two people whose lives are forced together after they injure a dog in a car accident and then have to pay for an extortionate vet bill. Here's a clip. Hey, here, dog. Oh, my God. I'm sorry. I didn't see it. I didn't see him. Do you know this dog? Oh, shit. Oh, my God, no. I didn't see him. That's okay. I don't know. I don't know any vets. Oh, wait. I know a vet. Oh, great. No, I can't call her. What? No, wait, wait. You know what? I'll text her. Why don't you just call her? No, no, it's complicated. Just hang on. Sorry, ma'am. Do you know this dog is here in the area? No, no. Goodness. What happened? This man just hid it. It was an accident. Texting, were you? I've heard so much about Colin from Accounts, and I think I'd seen before now about three or four minutes of it, and I never really... Okay. I never really got it. It's funny-ish, but I never really got why I would take time to watch this, and I was talking to one of my friends before this program, and saying to her, "Oh, we're reviewing Colin from Accounts," and she just went, "I really like it, because it's just like hanging out with friends." Yeah. And that's what... That's now I get it. I do get it. Hailey, is it a must watch? Absolutely. It was in the first season, and it is now. I love the fact that the two leads and the creators of the show are actually married in real life, so it's Harriet Dyer and Patrick Bramwell, and I think the fact that they're married leads to this obviously very easy, believable chemistry, but there is something in this show. There is no joke that's too gross for them, because they live together, and they do ridiculous things. There's a lot of toilet humor in this, which is my favorite. I also love how Australian it is. It's incredibly swary, but in that Aussie way where it's more like punctuation than anything actually offensive, and they're dropping... Yes, I do apologize if anyone took offense by the S-word there. I mean, it's not the worst word in the show. It's not, but it's not. There are worst words. People are entitled to their sensitivities. They are. This new season has all sorts of new problems and twists, and it's going in an unexpected direction, which I didn't expect, but I think if you like shows like Catastrophe or Starstruck, you will love this, and like you were saying, it's one of those shows that you hear people talking about all the time, and I think you just fall in love with it very easily. Are you going to tell me I'm crazy now? No. I mean, I would also say this is a must watch. I think there's two reasons why it works. I think the first is that this is amazing chemistry between the two leads. I mean, they are married in real life. You can kind of tell because they just have this way of interacting with each other, and that is the heart of the show is the casting of their own show, essentially, and that's what makes it because it feels incredibly real. I think it's also a bit of a rebellion against a conventional rom-com, while still being very much a rom-com. I mean, it is throwing itself and living within that idea. I think the other reason why I love it is just the fact that it is a continuation of something that has been happening on TV quite recently, which is a show in which the people who are starring in it also write it, and then that comes through because it makes it have a singular voice. One of the case other examples, Baby Rain Day, made by Richard Gadd, who's also starring it. I made a destroy you with Michaela Cole, who also wrote some stars in it. When there is the person behind the role, who's also in front of the role, it always gives that show something a little bit extra because it feels intrinsically personal, and I think that's the reason why this show has become such a big success. You can watch the first series of Colin from accounts on BBC iPlay now. The second series will be available on Tuesday, the third of September, the first episode, also on BBC 2 at 10pm. Talking of friends, new friends, new new starts, new beginnings, we've got a brand new show and five live from 2pm. Matt Chorley, hello, welcome to the team. Oh, it's exciting, hello, Naga. Hello, one of the things we were talking about was summer binges. I've been on the Olympics, and I've got to learn to watch more telly because of these two with me. What's your binge? We did watch quite a lot of the Olympics over the summer. We've been watching Uplight basically plugging the gap between waiting for the second series of Colin from accounts. There's quite a lot of good Australian comedy around right now, Colin from accounts, Fisk. Is it called Fisk? I think it's called Fisk, which is a solicitor, and Uplight, which is Tim Minchin, and a girl he meets in a car park taking an Uplight piano across Australia, which is weirdly stressful to watch, but it's also very funny, so that's our current binge at the moment, Uplight. How do you two have a binge this summer? I watched a show called The Boyfriend, which is Japan's first gay dating show. I think there's some reasons why I quite like it. It's because in Japan, I mean, it's a last G7 country to yet illegalised same-sex marriage. This show, I think, is showing kind of more of a progressive thing, but it's also the fact that these boys are really shy, and it's like episode 4 or 5 that they start showing their feelings, and it's such a difference to a lot of other dating shows when it's like a media. Hayley? I was watching Arrested Development on Netflix because I felt a bit too stupid to watch anything else. It was just one of those shows that you can have on in the background while you're doing something, because you kind of know everything, and the jokes don't lose any of their people. Oh, it's a comedy show, isn't it? Yeah, it is. It's all on Netflix. It's about a rich family, and the patriarch gets arrested for fraud and put in prison. But only watch the first three series, because after series 4, it goes downhill. Scott, Hayley, shall we finish with must-watches? I've got about three minutes, I think. We've had some binge-watches through. I'll give one example of a text. Les from Trune says, "Just watch Boiling Point movie. Excellent." Then the four-part series also excellent, Thirsty, for more. Jack from Hitchin discovered Peacock on the Boobsie iPlayer funniest comedy since the office. Mm, that's a, that's a, that's a claim. So many great performances, but Thomas Gray as Spooner is amazing. Must-watches. Hayley. I have got top of the lake, which is on you, formerly UK TV, and I've just been rewatching this one recently because I love it so much. So it came out in 2013. It's a detective show set in rural New Zealand, and Elizabeth Moss from Mad Men and the Handmaid's Tale plays a detective looking into the story of the disappearance of a pregnant 12-year-old girl. If you like Happy Valley or Merivis Town, this is up your street. It's, it's excellent. It's created by Jane Campion, who made the piano. Brit Elizabeth Moss. Moss. Fantastic. She's excellent. She's just so good. Mm-hmm. Scott, what you got? I've got Freddie Flint off Field of Dreams, which is on BBC iPlayer. This is a second series. So it features a former international cricketer in Preston, giving the opportunity for young kids to learn cricket, and I think you see them really develop and grow, and it's all about sort of giving people an opportunity that haven't had an opportunity like this before. And in the second series, they were due to go to India, that of course, I mean, it's been very well covered in venues. Weeks before they were due to go on this flight and have this international tour in India, he experienced his car crash on the set of top gear, and that he was lucky, he says he was lucky enough enough to be alive after the accident. And you can really kind of see him, they had to delay for a trip. You can see that he needed this trip with these young guys as much as they needed for a trip to go on with Freddie. Do you know, it's nice seeing these things where the sports star doesn't become the center of attention completely, because there are bigger stories to this, aren't there? Mm-hmm. I think it's about kind of with this, it's about learning a lot from people who you don't normally hang out with, and I think it's also having faith in people who have potential and giving them time, and I think that's the unexpected joy of this series, is just seeing people really grow as a person, as a result. Just as I'm hanging out with you guys and learning more about you guys, I don't know what you'll like in terms of rage, but Paul in Wales says, "Dear Scott Haley and Naga, please, could you be livid on my behalf about how to range getting cancelled?" No, I haven't watched it. I haven't watched it either, but I'm sure you're out of rage. No, okay, well, there's something to have a look at, hasn't it? What I will say is, keep the emails coming in, what is it? Mustwatch@bbc.co.uk. Okay, and Haley, you like hearing people disagree with you? Absolutely. What does that say about me? Just, you know, write in with a fight. No, I think it's all very similar, actually. And Scott, you like hearing people? I'd slay hearing from people. Something new, is there anything missing? You've got five seconds. Is there anything missing, general-wise, that you'd like to be recommended? Ooh. Documentaries, drama. You've got, because this is a lensey one, and drama for you. Drama, please, yeah. Okay, so did we say Colin from Accounts with a Mustwatch? Yes. And Zelensky, yes, mostly chaos, yes, okay. It's been a joy. Thank you so much. Have a good joy. Thank you. BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts. What's up, y'all? Janice Torres here. And I'm Austin Hankowitz. We're the hosts of Mind the Business, Small Business Success Stories, a podcast presented by iHeartRadio, Ruby Studios, and Intuit QuickBooks. Join us as we speak with small business owners about the tools they use to turn their ideas into success. From finding that initial spark of entrepreneurship to organizing payments and invoices, we've got you covered. 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