Ben & Woods On Demand Podcast

7am Hour - RARE Loss For Robert Suarez + Throwback Thursday!

Ben & Woods kick off the 7am hour continuing to talk about last night's tough loss in St. Louis as Padres closer Robert Suarez didn't have it, and took a RARE loss. Then we get to "Don't (And DO) Do This" before we go way back in the archives and relive some classic moments in show history on a Throwback Thursday! Listen here!

Duration:: 46m
Broadcast on:: 29 Aug 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

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I got to stop engaging with the doomers 'cause like one guy's name is Padre's Doomer. I should have known what it was in. Like that's on me. It's right there in the name. I can't be surprised, you know, when he says Joe Musgrove is washed or whatever. And I'm like, did you watch Friday? Did you watch tonight? Quality start for Joe. Coming off of an injury like washed is not the term that enters my mind. And there's, you know, listen, there's an NFL mentality to the baseball season. We probably are partly to blame for it. I will take responsibility there, but I think you have to step back and just look at the body of work right now and the body of work has been really good. Really impressive. Yeah. Yeah, the body of work has been outstanding for the San Diego Padres. You know, the questions yesterday, both about Suarez effectiveness and whether he should have even been used in the ninth inning. Obviously in a home game, it's pretty easy to put in Hellsley in the ninth 'cause you can win it in the bottom of the ninth, but the Padres to win that game would have also had, Torres, but Hellsley in it was an easy decision for Allie Marmot to go to Hellsley in the ninth because they can win it in the bottom of the ninth as they did. For the Padres to win that game, they would have also needed to get through the bottom of the tenth. Yeah. No matter if they score one, if they score six, six, they still need to get three more outs. So you can always kind of debate whether or not to use your closer in that situation. I question it pretty much every time. I don't have a problem with it, but I question it. So it's this score, you know, who threw somebody out there? Who do you think they would have brought in? I was wondering myself, who would have pitched the tenth? Let's say Jurickson gets the button down, crony hits a sacrifice play. You're up four to three and you're going to the now, well, no, no, okay, let's say, that was, let's say, you're still tied at three, Suarez gets through the ninth and then you score, he gets Aaron Otto out and you score in the tenth and it's four to three now in the bottom of the tenth, runner on second. Suarez though, his throne could be a strata. He pitched the day before. Eight pitches. Probably a strata was who was going to be the guy. I'm a simpleton or whatever. Like, it makes so much more sense to always just have the closer in there when you have the lead. Versus the top. I think it would have been a strata. Morihone are hoeing probably, but I'm not sure who would have pitched the bottom of that tenth, but I don't think Suarez would have come back given how much he's been used. That was the third time in four days. And he threw over 20 pitches, probably not going to be a second inning from Robert Suarez there. So you still need to get through that inning. And you can question, I think you can question that strategy, but I don't think you can win that argument. Just like the Bunt argument, you can always say, well, if we lose it in the ninth, then it doesn't matter who we're going to pitch in the tenth. I want to get through that ninth inning. You give us a chance in the tenth because we could score five in the top of the tenth and then it doesn't matter who we're pitching in the bottom of the tenth. - Yeah, I mean, we're all hindsight geniuses. All of us, everyone. No one, I'm literally the best manager in the world. In the world, when I have the gift of hindsight, of course I wouldn't have done that. Obviously you didn't get the run home, swing away. Oh, you gave up three consecutive hits with two outs. Obviously I was going to go to somebody else there. And then I could just say Suarez wasn't available. He's pitched too much lately. - Again, he's been, he's pitched a lot. - He has, and he's probably, there is probably some fatigue. As, you know, has told us many times, relievers only get worse over the course of the season. Every pitch they throw, so the team is going to make things tougher and tougher. Now some guys do overcome that and still get outs. But he's, that is a normal thing for relievers. But again, he, he pretty much won his battles. He got Mason when was just trying to make some contact. He was just hoping that that ball would find a whole poke one to the right side, got it through. That's not, that's not a guy, you know, squaring up and ripping one. Victor Scott said that I was really excited that Victor Scott was coming up there. He was a defensive replacement. My son goes, why is Victor Scott batting second? I go, he wasn't. He came in as a defensive replacement. That's, that's probably the Cardinals going, oh, this is coming back to burn us now. But he put together good at bat and he blooped one to center field that found some grass. So now it's first and second. R and Otto, I thought was maybe the worst pitch. Even Mike Schultz said we wanted to be careful with him, gave him something to hit. But he had a ground ball that had an XBA of under 250. I mean, three out of four times, that's an out. To ground ball out, it just happened to be up the middle and found the hole where it wins the game for the St. Louis Cardinals. Robert Torres didn't necessarily fail so much as baseball happened in the ninth inning against him. - Well, and baseball happened throughout the game. And I mean, obviously if you, if you watch the game, you were so encouraged by the way the boys came out and put a couple runs up early. Yeah, they did not deliver the kill shot and they had plenty of opportunities to do so. I think Mike Schultz addressed it after the game too. Yeah, plenty of opportunities, one for 10 runners in scoring position. They've been better than that. They've been phenomenal at that all year. Take it as, I think it's actually fair to say that's, I mean, it absolutely is. It's an anomaly for the San Diego Padres to have a game like that. It's certainly not the rule. - One for 10 was the runners in scoring position is an extreme anomaly for the Padres. - This year. - They had the runner on in every single inning of the game. - Yeah, man. - They gave themselves plenty of chances. Didn't come through. - It's, it's, they do that every game. They put runners on base, every game of every inning. They're going to win the World Series. You're not going to be able to beat the Padres four out of seven times. - Bro, 100%. - If they're putting runners on every single inning. They're not going to win every game, just like yesterday. There will be one or two every once in a while that you don't get the RISP and you don't score, but you set yourself up like that, you're going to win the World Series. So that was not a reason to be concerned game. - I mean, all, all of the tropes and all of the stuff that we say all the time and all of the things Mike Schilt says and Manny Machado says after the game in a loss. I mean, are we like, we have very short memories. They say this all the time. As long as we're in a position to win a game late, we, we did our job. It's not always going to, going to work. Nobody goes 162 and O, right? They've been saying this and we, again, we thought they were insane at the beginning of the year. We did, we were like, oh my God, they've stayed true to all of that as long as we have the opportunity to win a baseball game, we feel we can do it. They didn't last night, but they didn't, it just was one of those games where it's like, no, we had a chance and you flush it and you move on today and try to, try to win that series. Again, it's stung in the moment certainly because you hate seeing it happen to Robert Suarez. You hate seeing Jake not come through and Manny not come through there with a big knock, but you also look at it and go, yeah, this is part of the course. They were, they were in a position to win the game late and they didn't get the job done and it's okay. - Need a contestant for Real or Fake. The lines are open right now if you want to call in and take your chance to try to qualify for our trip to Las Vegas without having to take on Woods, 833-288-0973, 833-288-0973. I think it's always good to remember. Even the worst team, and this year's worst team is one of the worst teams ever, the Chicago White Sox. They find a way to win one out of every four games. I've got two, almost 250 winning percentage and they're absolutely horrible. So if you're playing a four game series, probably gonna lose one of those most of the time. Even against, and the Cardinals are no by no means one of the worst teams in baseball. They're not great, but they're not bad. They're 50-50 average, one game below 500 at this point. They've got good players too and they're gonna come through. By the way, the Padres, they had some balls that found holes in the first inning. They had the ground balls, many RBI singles. It works both ways. You give and you take and we certainly got some too. And, you know, closers at the end don't always get the job done. Trevor Hoffman many times came in and tie games and didn't get the job done for whatever reason. I don't know if there's a, that psychological advantage you have asked everyone we've ever talked to. And, you know, I think they all say not my job's to get outs. You know, my job is just to get outs, but, you know, we love to point to that as, oh, what an idiotic move. You never use your closure in a non-save situation. It's like, man, if it's me and I'm managing, I'm going with the guy that I trust to get the outs, the guy that I've seen get the biggest outs of the year. It's just, it's not that hard. You go with the guy you trust the most and that's the guy you trust the most. Why does he trust him the most? Because he's delivered the most. This is not, we overthink this game way too much. I'm going to the guy I trust the most in this situation to get me three outs. Not all, nobody's gonna be 100%. Nobody ever has been, ever. You know, the course of their career. Nobody's ever, yeah, he was 600 for 600 and save opportunities, right? It's never happened. It's never going to happen. But you go with the guy, you play the percentages, the guy that you trust, the guy you feel that can get you the outs in that situation, and that's what Mike Schilt did, and I have no problem with it. All right, let's get to it. It is time to play Throwback Thursday Edition of Real or Fake. Some are here for the compelling sports talk with Ben & Woods. You can go plow through another donut. It's time for Real or Fake on 97.3 The Bad. Tell the people what they'll win today. What we're playing for, and I have gone, this is Charles, got line six today. Charles? You there? I hear you. Hello? - Hello, hey buddy. - Charles, Charlie, what do you go by? - Chuck. - Chuck, all right. Chuck is our contestant today on Real or Fake. Chuck, here's what you're playing for. If you can get four out of seven, right, you will qualify for our grand prize drawing, just coming up fairly soon here. Tonight's stay at Resorts World Las Vegas, two tickets to carry under wood, reflection at Resorts World Theater. Now, all the way through the spring, tickets on sale at AXS.com and RW Las Vegas.com. All right, since it is Corn Week on Ben & Woods, today's Real or Fake is all about that versatile vegetable, or is it a grain? I'm not even sure. - The vegetable, isn't it? - Whatever it is. - It's a fruit. - It's, I've compiled, I don't think it's a fruit. - No, I know, it was joking. - I've compiled a list of heirloom corn varieties. You just have to guess which ones are real, and which ones are fake? Woods can help you out as well. So, Charles, you ready to play? Chuck, are you ready to play? - Let's do it. - All right, real or fake, heirloom corn varieties. - Round one, country gentleman, real or fake heirloom corn, country gentleman. - I assume fake, what do you think? - Bro, I assume fake too, but he has this creepy little look on his face, and I can't, it's hard for me to read it. - I'm gonna, let's say fake, bro, I'll roll with you. - Chuck, you say fake? - All right, let's go fake. - Paulie? - That's a real variety of... - Country gentleman. - All right, take care of that. - Oh, for one, we've got plenty of time to come back. - I would like an ear of country gentleman. - Let's go round number two. Bloody butcher, bloody butcher, real or fake heirloom corn variety. - Oh God, I don't like him, Chuck, I'm sorry. I don't like him, he's so hot, look at him. (laughing) - There, he's loving this. - He's loving it, dude, you should see his face. (laughing) - That just sounds fake again. - I know! - All right, I'll roll with you. Let's go, fake, let's fake. - Let's go fake. (buzzing) - Oh, it's real. - This is garbage, come on. - All right, round number three. - All right. - Early pink pearl, early pink pearl. Real or fake heirloom corn. - Oh, once again, down fake, but we've been wrong every time. - Gonna change his strategy or not, what are you? - Well, bro, he's already done two reels. - You gotta mix it up right there. - No, I don't have to. - They could all be real. They could all be fake. There are no requirements in this game. - I have to work with this guy every day. - Mm-hmm. - Chuck, you believe this? (laughing) - Let's go fake one more time. - Polly? (buzzing) (buzzing) - Ah! - It's real. - Oh my God. - We need all four in a monster come back here. This is red socks, Yankees, 20, 14, here we go. - Round number four. - And now the pressure is on. Glass gem, real or fake, glass gem corn, real or fake. (upbeat music) - Boy, if I'm a thermometer, fake again. - Let's go. - I'm a little fake again. - Let's go down with the ship. I'll go down with you. Here we go. - All right. (buzzing) - Oh, sorry, Chuck. - Those are all real. All of them real. You guessed fake one. - Oh my Lord. - All of them. - Sorry, Chuck. - Sorry, Chuck. - Thanks for calling. - He's a monster. - The game is over. - All right, give me the rest. - Howling mob. - Fake. (buzzing) - It's real. - Witchita Blue. - Real. (buzzing) - Dakota Black. Fake. (buzzing) Holy crap. - Witchita Mob. - No, Howling Mob is real. - Howling Mob. - Witchita Blue is the only fake one in the entire list. - I think there should be a rule against tricks like that. - Don't trick. - Yeah, that's a trick. - What's a trick? - You gotta mix it up. Three and four is it? - No, no. It could be all fake. It could be all real. It could be four fake and three real. - But a monster. - No, we want these people to qualify. We want them to listen. - We want to give them a good experience. - Give them an opportunity where they don't have to take on woods and it's a guessing game. I think the more it can be 50-50, the better it is. - That's true. - That's my philosophy on real or fake. I try to come up with things that are true. Guess is occasionally someone knows one or two of them gives you a little bit of an advantage. Otherwise, it's a coin flip and you only need to get four out of seven. It's not like you need to get all seven right. But today Katie knew Glass Gem. She would have gotten that one. I've never heard of that. - I haven't heard of it. - I haven't heard any of those actually. - They're all weird looking. I was looking at it. - Are they? - Oh yeah, they don't look like, sometimes they're like round, like not like ears of corn. - Like an apple. - Yeah, all kinds of weird colors and shapes and everything. - An apple. - But corn? - Shaped. - An apple. - It has kernels, but it's like more of a round. - What's the brand? - I would eat that. - I don't know which one that was. - Try a howling mob corn, let's see. - We can eat it like an apple, which would be awesome. I didn't know that. I've seen the different colors, right? - It looks like normal. - Is that a normal one? - In the corn of copias and what not. There's some that are definitely weird shapes corn. - Now have you ever eaten any other corn than just corn? - Like have you ever had that? - Pretty much like white corn or yellow corn. - Sweet corn, you had that. - Casually blue corn, I mean, you had blue corn. - On the cob? - No, I had blue corn tortillas. - I had blue corn tortillas, yeah. It's kind of where you have the blue corn more often. - Candy corn? - Candy corn disgusting. - Awful. - Disgusting. - Not good. - In a pinch. - The top half. - Yes, in a pinch. - Fine. I'll eat, probably get a spoonful of sugar in a pinch. All right, but candy corn's about as low as I will go. But I want to try this apple. - I'd be all in a black corn, blue corn. - An orb of corn. - An orb of corn would be incredible. - A basketball size. - But with love it, it's just a favorite thing. - Like a big pumpkin, but yeah, corn. - I got corn, I got corn on the orb. - I got to find one of these. Thank you for that. - Sorry about that. Then the reason, of course, corn is such a theme this week is the corn sweat in St. Louis that's making things so hot and miserable. - I can't wait. - And we can ask Mason McCoy about it. - I can't wait to get out of there. - When he joins us. - I can't wait for these guys. I'm not even there. I feel it though. I feel it when I watch the games. I can see it and feel it to the TV. And the last thing she goes, oh my God, that looks just miserable. Like, oh, I know, it just looks miserable. Joe's pouring sweat, pouring sweat all night. Those guys have to be so gassed. And now off the Tampa, where at least it'll be cool inside. - But yes. - But one more outside. - In the day now in St. Louis, which is, I mean, it may be a tiny bit cooler, but you're playing in the day. - The day, which makes things even worse. - Yeah. All right, don't do this is coming up next. - Get the hell out of St. Louis. Didn't mind yesterday seeing a lot of people light the dodgers up for what they did yesterday. We'll throw them into the mix for don't do this. - I've got our old pal Steven A. Smith talking about, well, baseball, and you know how that's going to go. 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Stadium Swim is open 365 days a year and features all sports on an epic 143 foot screen. Book your reservation at circle Las Vegas.com, circle Las Vegas. This is sports the way it should be. (upbeat music) - Don't do this. ♪ I gotta lose your breath for your nonsense ♪ ♪ Don't don't do this ♪ ♪ Listen, if I'm something bad, I mean, tell me I'm a bad boy ♪ ♪ You know, just tell me I'm a bad boy ♪ ♪ Why just why ♪ I get the argument, you don't have to explain it to me. I'm not a moron. Let me tell you why I am a dumbest. It is time for Don't Do This. - Don't do this. - A 97th breath of fan. (upbeat music) - All right, Woodsy has teased me and he won't even tell me what Stephen A. Smith said that has brought him, once again, to Don't Do This, not his first time that he's been in this segment. - You really, yeah. I mean, it's one of those deals we talk about it a lot and he's, you know, all due respect to him. He's made an incredible career for himself but it's when these guys, they start talking baseball, Betty, where they're exposed, much like myself and the NBA but I know my shortcomings. I will tell you, all of you, the tier ones, the tier twos, the tier threes, you two, I don't know what I'm talking about. I haven't really watched the NBA since 2000. All right, so I know my weaknesses. I try not to sound like I know what I'm talking about. Stephen A, Colin Coward, when it comes to baseball, it just, they're football guys, man. They're basketball guys. That's what they are and that's okay. Be it, be it all the way though. Listen to Stephen A yesterday talking to Mad Dog. - But you do got Juan Soto bad and nothing behind you. You understand what I'm saying? They can't get around you a little bit. So I mean, they got a pitch to the brother. You understand what I'm saying? Because you got Soto waiting in the wings. So all of those things facilitate. - Soto hits in front of him. And judge being who he is. - So Juan Soto bats in judge hits after Juan Soto. - Right, people would like sometimes to argue that maybe they should put Juan Soto behind Aaron Judge. - Sure, sure. But no, that's not. - But for the most part this season, he is batted in front of Aaron Judge. - Yeah, I mean. - Which there's an argument to be made - Oh yeah. - For walks and get on base in front of the guy who's hitting 50 plus home runs. - Yeah, judge hits after. - But there's not a lot of protection behind judge in the line, because the Yankees don't have a deep line up. - It's star heavy. - Yeah. - And he's still done the incredible amount of damage that he's done, but it's not only Steven A. I mean, he also claims to be Yankee fan. So that's not a great look. - Now last season, didn't judge lead off sometimes? - Sometimes. - Sometimes. - He did have guys behind him. - Yes. - But he has not been doing that this season. - Yeah. - Oh man. - Now you can argue whether that's the right or the wrong decision. - Sure. But Juan Soto has not been protecting Aaron Judge. - Correct. - Correct. - He just got dragged. - Yeah. - All day. - I mean, everybody makes mistakes. - Sure. - But he said he didn't sound that confident when he said it. - Yeah, I could hear that. - He was kind of fumbling over it. - But Steven A. tries to sound confident in everything he said. - That's it. - Just if I didn't know, I just wouldn't say it. - Satan's blowfish. He has been really giving baseball solid coverage, making sure the best analysts weighing in. You made a point this morning. You were driving and listening to Steve Phillips and-- - Yeah. - Yeah, it was Xavier Scrugg's thing. - Yeah. - Both who know baseball, former GM, former player, they know a ton of baseball. But even when they're talking about your team, and I was listening to them discuss the Padre Cardinals. - Isn't it fun? - And they didn't say anything wrong, but it's such like surface level. - Yeah, yeah. - Like the national guys can't really get in depth on every team, and I'm going-- - Do they know who Jason Adam is? You know what I mean? Do they know who Ryan Holing is? - But it still is. They're kind of describing the game. And they didn't obviously watch every moment of the game. They can't really get into depth like we can as Padre's fans, and no one can. No, that's the big con with the national guys, whether it's Stephen A. Smith or Skip Bayless, whoever it is. No one has the time to be as knowledgeable about a subject as a true diehard fan of that team. So they're never giving you the kind of analysis you can get from a specific diehard observer fan. Your beat rider, your local radio hosts are almost always going to have better insight than the national guys on your team. - Well, I mean, and again though, if he claims to be a Yankee fan, he would know. He would absolutely know that-- - It's what makes guys like Jeff Passen the most impressive, because they actually do a pretty good insight around the league, on every team, and that is really hard to do. But if you guys, Jeff Passen, okay, now break down the four, three linebacker scheme. And tell me about the salary cap and the NBA, I would hope he has no idea. - Right. - Because there's just no way you can know about everything. - What I told you this early on in our relationship is I'm not going to be afraid to say I have no idea. No, I did not watch. And it took me a while to get there. It's okay to not know everything. It's okay, you know, know your weaknesses, your shortcomings, and do the best you can with the other stuff. - All right, maybe a faux pas yesterday. I was going to do the Dodgers. - What was your don't do this for them? - Well, it was the Golden Shohei Otani decoy dog bobblehead. Kind of like the Joe Musgrove and dog bobblehead, they had their own, but they only had 40,000. And they, you know, Dodger Stadium seats 52. - Yep. - And they said, you have to get in law and to make sure you're one of the first 40,000. Pottery say that too, but I've never had a huge problem about a lot of people not getting their giveaways at Padres games. But the Dodgers said, not everyone's going to get one. So people were lining up starting at 11 a.m. There were lines like Chavez Ravine, like a mile long to make sure people were getting in. That's not the best way to handle a giveaway where fans feel like they have to get their eight hours before the game to get in line, just to make sure they get the free giveaway at the game. - I saw one. - It's not good. - I think our friend, Charisma posted on eBay $10,000 for a Shohei bobblehead. - And I thought to myself, are you out of your mind? Somebody's-- - That is out of that free giveaway. - I mean, and it just, yeah, like you said, there were people lined up around the corner, but you do think if it's the LA Dodgers, just make 50,000, right? - Exactly. - And just control the scene. - You know, it's going to be a sellout. Now, the Padres do the 40,000 thing as well. Now, capacity at Peko Park is technically 40,000, but in the sellouts, they get up to 45 now with all the standing ground. - This fellow, yeah. - I assume there are people who don't end up getting those giveaways, but I don't know, just for the Dodgers to have people, no one lines up at Peko Park at 11 a.m. to make sure they get a bobblehead. - The don't do this though, the don't do this though, was them posting, I saw some Dodger fans posting pictures of one lady had hoarded like 12, and she's like standing around them, like she was guarding Fort Knox. - You shouldn't have more than one. - Correct. - Like taking, unless they, she bought 12 tickets. - You should buy 12 tickets. - But just try, if you can really sell them for $10,000, you should have bought as many tickets as possible and then just started selling those things. - Nobody says, does anybody remember the whale beanie baby for the Padres in '96, apparent was that? - I don't remember. - Did that cause a riot? Were you a beanie baby guy? - No. - I'm not surprised at me, actually. - No. - All right. - But what I was getting, I mean, this, you tell me, is this a faux pas? So, Livy Dunn with her army or social media army. - Yeah. - Paul skeins pitch yesterday for the Pirates. He was okay, five innings, three runs, but left with a big lead, 10 to three against the-- - Yeah, gonna get a dub. - The Cubs gonna get the dub, not the dub's matter, but it would've been his ninth win. - Sure. - And then the Cubs, or the Pirates bullpen, imploded and they ended up losing 14 to 10. And as the implosion was happening, Livy Dunn went to social media and posted a, "You gotta be kidding me, meme of Paul skeins." And I heard them talking about it this morning and, you know, like, that might not sit well necessarily in a Pirates Clubhouse if, you know, a significant other of a player is basically lighting up what's, you know, teammates for not getting the job done. We're all thinking it, obviously, you know, but, you know, they know they blew it. They don't need you pointing it out. - And then, ah, I think it's fairly harmless. - I think it ultimately is probably pretty harmless, but-- - It was the NFL wife that really was, like, tweeting during. - I can't believe it's not Brittany Holmes, but I don't think it was her. - It wasn't, but, like, oh, no, it was somebody that was like, "Well, he can't do it all by himself." - Yeah. - You need to block for it. I was like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa." - Right, now you're-- - This is kind of on that same wavelength. - I can't remember that. - Ultimately, Paul Skins did nothing to take the narrative away from Jackson Merrill. What was that start? - Was it Kelli Stafford? - Yes. - No, it was Matt Stafford's wife. - Oh, sure. - Yeah, like, something like, "You can't do it all himself." I can't remember. I don't want to make this character else. - All right, what do we have for do-do-do this? - You had Travis, Jan Cowell, Joel Ferrell. - Joel Ferrell. - Check this out. - Well, let's set the stage. - D.D. Megan, do-do. - Two on, White Sox. - D.D. Megan, do-do. - Two on, White Sox with a chance to walk a rare victory. Looking for the walk-off. I don't know, who was at the plate? - It was Andrew Chafin on the mound. Paulie played the audio on. - A friend? - Yeah. - What the hell is it? All I can think is Rick Bond. - It's not Rick Bond. - It's Andrew Bond, yeah. - Andrew Bond's at the plate. - It was just queuing up. I found the White Sox radio call. - Yeah, the White Sox radio call is one, two coming. Swing and a fly ball. Deep left. Jankowski leaps. And he took away a game-winning home run. - Oh, dude. - And the runners are back to their bases. He went way over the fence and took it away. - They say the best catches I've ever seen. - It really is a top, like, top five catch in Major League Baseball history. The other one that was also a text reader was Gary Matthews Jr. I was going back through some of the old catches that I saw. Matthew's Jr. with one of the most incredible catches in center field you'll ever see. But this one, man, they were about to get walked off by the Chicago White Sox. Now, did they end up winning the game? The Texas Rangers, they come back and... - Yeah, they held on. - They held on. They held on. - They held on. - When they just needed one more out after that, they got a day. - Old. - I think they walked the bases loaded and then they got- - Pitching change. - And then they got the final out. So another loss, a painful one. - Freddy. - What a good dude he is, man. What a good, good dude he is. He's a late inning, defensive replacement guy, got himself a World Series ring last year. He was so kind, we interviewed him before. He was really, really cool dude. - Oh, the fans. - And the catch is so stupid. - Dude, really, I mean, any catch like that is amazing, but to actually take away a walk-off home run, I don't remember ever seeing that before. - I mean, if people in Chicago are like, of course. - I mean, it was their 103rd loss. - You think we have? - A little more memorable than the first 102, maybe. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - At some point, it's just another loss. - Just see the clip from that same game. In between innings, catcher throws down to second on the last throw. - Yep. - Second baseman, or the short, I don't know what it was, was not paying attention and he was standing on the base and the ball hits him right in the nose. - Right in the nose. - Just threw down, all right. Coming in. - Just daydreaming. - And just boom, right in the face. - Got her. - But Cardinals catcher Pajay said a little trouble throwing down this kick yesterday. - Good war, man. - We can take advantage of all of that yesterday. - Yeah, they scored the one run on Jake's score in the first inning, but then they didn't take advantage of it after that. - That's don't, and do do this for a Thursday. - That was don't do this with Ben and Woods on 97-3, the fan. - All right, throwback Thursday. Paulie is gonna take us back some of the earliest days of Ben and Woods with some of our favorite clips of past years of the show. 2018, we got 2020 as well, one of our frustrating days in Ben and Woods history. We'll relive some of those moments. - What up next on 97-3, the fan. - It was Adam and a lot of other people pointed out too. The one I was thinking of was Giselle Bunchin. - Bunchin. - Bunchin. - Talking about her husband, Tom Brady, ex-husband Tom Brady, in the Super Bowl. He can't catch it. He can't throw and catch and do everything. - Something like that. - Like the tunnel after the game. I think it was after they lost the Eagles and she was very angry. - I would have been very mad if I were his teammates. You know what I mean? - Well, he already gets such an outsized amount of credit for all the wins. - Yeah. - You shouldn't then make all the losses about his teammates. - Correct. - That's not fair. - It's not fair at all. - It's more fair what Libby Dunn did. I mean, Paul Skeens left with a 10-3 lead and he was out of the game at that point. - Yeah, she didn't. - She just, you can't do anything about it once you're out of the game. - Yeah, yeah, you can't control it at all. And I think that was pretty harmless by Libby Dunn. Also, I will defend Libby Dunn, as you know. Never done anything wrong, as far as I'm concerned. So, sports. - So sports. - No, so throwback Thursday. We're gonna check traffic when we come back. Paul is queued up some of our clips from this week in Ben & Woods history as we do on throwback Thursdays, including all the way back six years to the very first months of the show that is coming up next year at 97.3, the fan. - Now, let's peel the curtain back a little bit. What makes your favorite, like, television programs, so successful? Good character development. - Yeah. - You get attached to, whether it's, you know, Walter White or Larry David, you know, you wanna see what happens next to your favorite characters. You get to know them, you get to know what they love, what they hate, what drives them emotionally. - Yeah. It's actually serial content essentially. Just what's, yeah, what's going on in their lives today? - It's actually kinda true for our show as well, a radio program. - For the best shows? That's exactly it. - Yeah. A lot of people can talk about Ray's baseball, I think we do it well, but part of it, part of the appeal is, you know, you get to know us and you get to know our personalities and our lives and you spend four hours with us, some of you every single day. So, you know, it's kind of an ongoing arc. - It's like a sitcom. - You know, I like characters that can have an arc. - Yeah, you do like characters. - Ben and Woods and Paul have an arc. - Yes. - And it started a little over six years ago when this program began. And like many first seasons of television programs. - It's worse than Seinfeld. - What in our best? - It's worse than Seinfeld. - It's rough because no one really has their character totally developed yet. - Go watch the second episode of Seinfeld. You tell me, was that any good in comparison to season six? - And then season five, yeah. I mean, it's the differences are stark. They're stark. We had no chemistry. We didn't know each other. And we had another person on our show as well. - And it's not even like, like in Seinfeld, they just got better. - Whereas in the writing up better, the jokes got better. - And they figured out like who George. - Okay, who George is. - Yeah, who's George, right. - Who is Elaine? Who is Kramer? I mean, they had an idea, but they had to really-- - You have to extrapolate it. - Yeah, but then a show like Breaking Bad. Season five and season one are so vastly different, like completely different characters. It's a whole different show. It's not just, season one is so slow and you had to watch it. - You had to just slow burn. - Yeah, slow burn. - Now we are real people, which makes things a little bit different. But at the same time, even reality TV, you watch Survivor, you know, you learn about the contestants over the course of the show. And you know, they're real motivations, whatever. So we were early in our show's tenure and trying to figure out like, what kind of show do we want to do? Who are we? And, you know, I wanted to do the normal kind of sports talk radio show and take calls and talk about the chargers and whatever. You know, this is what I was used to. Woods had a little bit different idea and he was always looking for spots where perhaps we could break from the normal sports talk radio program. And there was one of those moments-- - Woods was in Enigma when he started with us. - Well, you were kind of almost trying to go along with me too much of a beginning. - Well, I've never been at my-- - And that's why I think this clip is so good because this was, so about five months in. - Yeah. - And that's kind of when the wheels at least started to pivot. - To turn a little bit. - I still say it was about a year in where we really figured out our show and how we wanted it to sound. This was five months in and we had-- - I loved this one. - Yeah, before you play it. - My instinct, of course, is to ignore it. - Correct, plow. - Move on and pretend it didn't happen. Just be a pro, like, okay, things like this happen, but we don't need to address it. We just move on and continue on with our good solid Padres talk conversation. - We were talking actually about Luis Arias at the time. - And Carlos Essoie. - Yes. - And then the fourth voice over here was our old boss, Joe. - Yep. - And this is what happened. - He's really no worse than many of the other players on that team. He just singled him out as kind of the poster boy for the Padres lack of success. - I asked you. - Is it irrational? Is it irrational? What was that, by the way? - That was my body, I'm sorry. (laughing) - I didn't burp. - Paul, can you-- - I need to eat. - Paul, I'm gonna need that. I'm gonna need that. - I need to eat. - I need that forever. No, I completely lost my-- (laughing) - I thought it was showing me off. - That's gross. - And Joe's guts. - Your rational anger. - And Joe's guts gurgled to the top. (laughing) - And they're eating like a raw lemon. - Yeah, no, I mean, look, if that, if this means that Swahi is packing his bags to go play Fortnite and El Paso, I'm totally, totally fine with it. (laughing) - Yes, one more time. (laughing) - This is the greatest moment his show is. - That's right, it was. - Do we like the T-shirt better than Bip? - A hundred percent of Alomar better. - I like better than Bip. - Better than 80 percent of Alomar. (laughing) - I'm gonna throw up. - Yeah. (laughing) (laughing) - How about Alan Wiggins? - Well, I don't think he's as fast as Alan. You're not going to get any stuff. - Listen to him just plowing still on the basis, but he does have speed and good defense. (laughing) - You're just dying in the background. - You're just dying in the background. - What some of the listeners have to say. - Who can be a parent of crying about expectations? (laughing) - I love it. One of my favorite moments of all time. You have to embrace the. - But why that was important is that after that, we started embracing the weird and mistakes. I mean, that's probably what started leading to Ben's flubs and the drop of a lot of the things that we do on the show today. - Yeah, train wreck radio. - Train wreck radio. - Right there. - Forgot about all of this. Somebody said I sound 10 years younger. Yeah, man. I've aged a lot. (laughing) I ate a lot. - Did me, Paul or-- - It's all about, man. - All of it. - Six years ago. - Crazy. - We got an infant. That's it. - Yeah. - Immobile. - Yeah. - To the run around everywhere. - Inside and out. - All right, that was six years ago. Then of course, one of the very defining eras of our show was the pandemic and trying to get through months and months without any real content at all. Certainly no sporting games to talk about. Everything shut down. We're not with Paulie. He's alone here in the studio and we're out at the Corona Cave, which was surprisingly, it worked out pretty well. In the little guest house, we would get together in each other's bubble and we had our equipment that was just set up there every single day and magically, I don't know how. Every morning we go, we connect, it would work. We would pretty much be on the air. No problem for four hours, every single morning. - Thirty-six degrees in there. I'm wrapped in a blanket every day. - Until this week in 2020, when, for the first time, the pandemic had been gone on for months and my parents were strictly quarantining. They were, we would wave at them. - Yeah, she would bring us a bagel every now and then. - Yeah, but just leave it at the door. So we would have no interaction, just wave through the window. But they actually, I think they went to visit my grandma or something and needed to take care of something. So they were actually out of the house. - House was locked. - How couldn't get in. The house was locked. And this is when we have our first technological internet problems. - Of course. - Yeah, this was, so the trade deadline was at the end of August that year. Season started like July 20th or something. So the weird late August trade deadline and the Padres had just made that trade. They sent Austin Hedges, Cal Quantral, the Cleveland, acquired Mike Clevenger. And so we had MLB.com's Mark Feinstein on the air. And what had happened all morning was you guys were dropping off. - Eight minutes. - Every eight minutes. - On the nose. - You guys, the connection would fail. You guys would completely disappear. It got to the point where I would just play like music for like a minute or two and then you guys would pop back on. - It was awful. - But we couldn't do anything about it. - Nothing. - There was not, the only thing we could do is reset the router. - Or just go home. - That was locked. - Dump into national, that was it. I was so mad. - So I don't know why we still decided to try this interview two hours later. - Don't as I point, don't you know why? - Yeah, check this. - Check this. - We're talking to Mark Feinstein and you guys, oh God. - The Padres off to an 18 and 12 start. There's four games behind the Dodgers. Preller hasn't been afraid to make big moves during his tenure in San Diego. So the idea of adding a piece or two or three wouldn't be shocking, especially in the bullpen. How about about 10 pieces? Mark, these 10 pieces are coming from the Padres at this trade deadline. - I was gonna say that I think they undershot the expectations there, you know, it might get my job received. - You could hear us at all. - My conversation was in compliment. - Oh my God. - He could hear us. - But we couldn't hear any, he lost it. - I don't think Mark likes. - Oh God. - So, you guys were still technically on the air. You were about to drop, but you thought you had already dropped, so you just started talking while he was talking. So yeah, you guys are just talking over. - It might get my conversation. - You're joking about your joke at all. - Yeah, it might get my conversation with your compliments. - I'm dying that the Padres were gonna be very busy. I don't think Mark likes. - Now you're off. - Now we're gone. - Completely gone. - Hello. - You guys there? - Mark, I think we lost our guys. We're doing a remote broadcast still. - I was gonna say I was talking and they clearly couldn't hear me. - No, so we're gonna work on getting them back. But Mark, we'll just keep on the line here. So, what did you make? When you saw the television break, I mean, was that where you thought he was gonna go here in San Diego? - That's like Paul, he's a position player coming into pitch the last two innings. - And yeah, I-- - 'Cause I knew if I could just figure it out, ask a question, then he has a probably dial back in. - I can't play anymore. - You're ready to go? - I can't hear anymore. - So we had, I remember now, we had, Uncle Teddy was scheduled to join us that morning, like the next hour, like absolutely not. He'll lose his mind. - Could you imagine? That would have been great, right? - Unless you guys kept it to four minutes, but that would have been one answer from Uncle Teddy. - It was really rough. That was a rough one. I can't hear it again. Let's bang that one for next year. 'Cause I don't ever hear that one either. - Us just talking over him and he can't hear us. - Well, we couldn't hear him. So we thought we're off the air again and we started, you know, just-- - Oh my God. - Complaining, like, we gotta wait until it comes back and wondering what's Paulie doing. - I was gonna say, I think they undershot the expectations there, you know, in my drum machine. - I would, never how mad I was behind the scenes. - Why on earth would it only like drop in one direction for 10 seconds and then drop us the other direction? No idea what was going on that day. - That's so livid. - It was awful. - So mad. - It was, that was a miserable-- - I don't wanna hear that one again. - It's like one of the worst days we've ever had. - I don't wanna hear that next year, okay? - All right. - This hour-- - We figured it out. What's going on? 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