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First one from Hunter H. Wow. Yeah, that's fair. Thank you for sharing that, Hunter. But dude, I'm with you. And then this one from Ryan Keeler. Same quote, unquote stuff every year. I appreciate you keeping it family friendly there, Ryan, unlike other people. But yeah, completely agree with you. Come on. Look, my wife who hates football does not follow football, texted me as the show was starting. She's like, wow, that was rough. And by the way, continue to watch the show to just see how we would act, by the way. And obviously this is not everybody, but she was appalled by the chat. So I just want to throw that out there. So prize picks is America's number one daily fantasy sports app with over 5 million active members prize picks is the easiest and most exciting way to play daily fantasy sports. Unlike other apps on prize picks, it's just you against the numbers. All you do is pick more or less on 2 to 6 player stat projections and watch the winnings roll in. 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For me, I think Riley Leonard is going to go above 2,550 and a half yards. So I'm going to take that one and I'm going to combine it with Quinn yours to throw 2,999 and a half yards. Put those together and bang, bang, boom, baby. I'm going to be a winner. You just wait and see. I'm coming up on my one year anniversary of depositing my first $10 and I received an instant $10 bonus. If you have the skills, you can play for a shot at turning your $10 into a thousand dollars. Download the prize picks app today and use code IRISH for a first deposit match up to $100. That's code IRISH on prize picks for a deposit match up to $100. Prize picks run your game. You've had Wendy's nugs dipped in sauce, but have you had them covered in sauce? Wendy's new saucy nugs takes the crispy and spicy nugs that you love and turn them up to 11. Choose between flavors like buffalo, honey barbecue, garlic palm, or if you're a real heat seeker, try spicy ghost pepper only on Wendy's signature spicy nugs. I dare you. That's seven delicious ways to try the nugs you already love. Pick a flavor, grab some extra napkins and prepare to nug like you've never nugged before. For a whole new way to nug, it's gotta be Wendy's at participating U.S. Wendy's. Joe, thanks for the super chat. I appreciate it. Total and complete failure. They didn't want to be there. Leonard needs to take his aw shucks country boy schtick back down south and just leave the school. My biggest worry is this pattern of Marcus Freeman. I agree with the last part, the other part, just take a breath. Take a breath. That's the best not that I'm not responding to that. That's probably true. Try the wisest last belt loop. Thanks for the super chat. Listen, Riley isn't the answer. The guy can't throw more than 10 yards wide receiver development is non-existent except Collins, but he was a Clemson guy. We're going to just read some of these. Some of these. I mean, I don't know what you want. I mean, we've tried. I just know. We're going to be your seven hours if we're going to respond to all correct. Yeah. We have over 70 super chats. That's why I said, we're just going to read some of these and that's going to have to do it. There's people in the chat to be able to vent too, right? Like I don't want to take the part of it. If you feel that way, you feel that way. All I would say is, and Joe, I love you, man. My only issue with his was you don't need to take personal shots exactly correct, right? He played like, like, I didn't push back on Charlie Weiss's last belt loop saying he can't throw to all more than 10 yards. Has improved it. I mean, he has. I mean, not a Notre Dame. Yeah, right. Correct. Right. That's like, dude, I watched the same game you did. I'm not going to sit here and defend that. Talking about his, that's, you know, take personal shots of the kid. I understand you're pissed off, but we can be better than that. You want to say he played like garbage? He needs to be benched. Okay. We can agree or disagree, but that's that's fair. You're shocked. Stick to football. We'll need to get personal with people. Correct. But I get your. Joe, I do get your frustrations. And we're all frustrated. That's why I did it. I do get it. We let off the show with vent. You are a hundred percent allowed to vent. We're venting. We have an outlet to vent. Yeah. We have to vent as well, but keep it, you know, right, because there's a lot to be pissed about. Oh, to be pissed about Tanner Conray with super jet. Thank you. I think we should all stop using the phrase Brian Kelly PTSD. That's different. I mean, there are similarity, but that's different. Well, to his point though, stuff like this keeps happening. It's no longer BK PTSD. It's just this is this is Marcus Freeman PT. I mean, this is MF PTSD at this point in time. Yeah. I mean, if we're going to be real about it, well, it won't be PTSD until he's gone. Because it literally is just like these stands for moments and it's like, well, I wonder how they're going to do in this game. You know what I mean? Like it's our if that's MF reality, that's right, because like, you know, we said, we said Vince and Sean, I know you guys talked about this too, but like we had two stories of Marcus Freeman year one, it was you have some really huge wins, and then you lose to some teams. It's not suck because Marc didn't suck, but you have no bit just like Northern Illinois doesn't suck. I mean, the business don't aim losing that game. Correct. And then last year, they won games like this and won games like this and blow out fashion. And so which one is which is sadly what we saw today, guys, is regression saw a team regress from where it was last year. And that's inexcusable inexcusable. So yeah, I mean, Tanner, you're dude, I can't disagree, I can't argue with you, man. So they're a super sticker, Phillip, appreciate you. Ray Price, thanks for the super chat that I just watched and I you get paid $1.4 million and pound our defense and watch our quarterback not be able to throw a deep ball. That was beyond heartbreaking. I agree with every bit of that a lot more issues than just a deep ball. Right. Yeah. I mean, he was missing short stuff, I mean, it just, there's a screen pass. He threw away off base, it slowed a guy down. I mean, it just, no, John A1, thanks for the super chat. I don't need to watch any other game. I watched NIU out coach Notre Dame in preparation scheme and toughness. Freeman is not the guy. We owe Reese Parker and Hartman an apology. Freeman held him back. Anybody have a comment on that? I'm showing you have a comment on that. You know my feelings, bro. I mean, I'll let things, you know, man, I'm not up, so go watch the Ohio State game. Sam Hartman's off. That's it. I'm that ain't Coach Freeman. He was awful. He was awful at Clemson. That pick six was awful. As basic high school football, like stop, stop. I understand everybody's frustrated upset, the blame starts at the top, but let's not start rewriting history. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. Not stopped, dude. Jerry Parker has some really bad games. Yes. Some really bad games. Just caught picking plays out of, you know, let's try this. No, I'm going to try this one over here. No build up. No game plan. No field. No. And Tommy Reese. I don't even want to go down that route. Adrian Hooks. Thanks for the super chat. Notre Dame needs to replace the quarterback. Riley gave this game away. He had help. Here's my only thing is I'm not, I'm not going to sit here and tell you guys. And is anybody sitting there saying that that Riley Leonard? No questions. Ash should be starting quarterback next week. Is anybody saying that? I mean, I, I mean, look, I think it at least is worth the conversation, but, but again, it's it's what's the expression you're putting a Band-Aid on a bullet wound. Because this is, this goes way deeper than Riley Leonard. This is the same crap we talked about last year with Sam Hartman. You know, it's there's something much deeper here than just Riley played poorly. And he did. But this is, this is an easy, this is an easy thing to placate certain people's emotions. This doesn't fix the problem. This isn't Riley Leonard is not why this team was unprepared to play hard. David Carpenter, thanks for the super chat to division one quarterback with zero passing touchdowns in two games. How is that possible? As my kids say, I can't even Johnny one new captains need to be appointed. Both Riley's deserve to lose the C. I mean, I think you're, you're, you're falling short on blaming both. I mean, I, I think Riley Mills made more plays today and played harder than Howard Cross did. So. Marky Stewart, thanks for the super chat. We can tell ourselves we don't need a guy like Deuce Knight, but a dynamic quarterback doesn't lose this game. No name had a dynamic quarterback today. Who's Russia's proper thousand. Go ahead, Trevor. No, you're good. I was just about to say Riley Leonard is a dynamic quarterback. Let the sample size of what's happened. You know, look, there were plays that happened last week that wouldn't have been made if Riley Leonard wasn't the quarterback. Correct. Bobbled hand off, pick up the football underneath the running backs leg, get the ball out. That's not, I'm sorry. Nobody else in that quarterback room is doing that. Snaps were crap today too. Yes. Yes. I look, my, my biggest gripe whenever a loss like this happens is who's just the immediate next replacement that's when there is a fundamental issue with a program. You could plug in whoever you want to. It's not going to matter unless the foundational issue gets corrected and we could, we could see if Deuce Knight is eligible to come play early or if CJ car is ready to start as the true freshman, it doesn't matter because the issues are going to come up, whether it's against Purdue or in a couple of weeks when Louisville comes to town or in November on the ninth when Notre Dame plays Florida State, it doesn't matter and a dynamic quarterback and when they lost to Marshall too, they didn't use them. Remember that? I mean, we can, we've been doing this song and dance for how long about, well, wait till this guy shows up, wait till Fielder COVID shows up, wait till Tyler Buckner shows up, wait till Brandon Windbush becomes a starter and then they stopped using Brandon as a runner. You know, so again, guys, we are looking for easy fixes and that ain't it. Mark and I love you, man, but this, that's, that doesn't fix why this team got their butts kicked in the trenches. Let's just say hypothetically that Sean, let's say hypothetically that they had an athlete like do's night, the quarterback today and he made enough plays at the end to win it. Okay, does that fix the fun? The problem isn't today that they lost. The problem is why they lost, how they lost, why they lost, the root cause behind it, having a quarterback that can kind of put his team on his shoulders at the end of game and and make that final play doesn't change. Like let's just say hypothetically that they would have benched Riley in the fourth quarter brought in CJ, CJ leaves him on a, does that change or does that, that just masks the symptom of why was this team not prepared emotionally today? Why did this team get bullied in the trenches today? Does, does, does CJ or Kenny or Steve coming off the bench and rallying the team in the fourth quarter change that? No, it just makes you feel a little bit better until it happens the next time. Trevor, you had something you wanted to add to that look like? Yeah, I was going to say, I've been thinking about that during the duration of this show is even if Notre Dame were to win that game, a lot of the conversations that we're having are going to be the same, in my opinion. It's just maybe with a slightly more positive tone because we can look at the overall record and say, well, at least Notre Dame's 2-0, but a lot of these questions that we're having about the preparedness of the team and, you know, how does Marcus Freeman get his guys up for games like this that aren't under the national media spotlight, all those conversations are remaining the same and I'm glad that you brought that up because I've been, I've been thinking about that now for the last like two hours and I feel like a lot of these conversations would be the same. You know what, tell us, I guess, you know, the word dynamic through me all. I guess, Basie, he's saying dual threat, is that how he's describing dynamic? I think dynamic is not just dual threat, but a guy that's like, you can be a dual threat quarterback and you're not, you know, like there's dual threat quarterbacks that are, you know, good players and there's dual threat quarterbacks like, you know, Lamar Jackson, you know, like, you know what I mean, like there's the really dynamic, take a game over, like SMU has a dual threat quarterback, Kevin Jennings, he's not dynamic, you know what I mean, he couldn't put that team on his shoulders last night and lead them to a victory over BYU, you know what I mean? So I think it's more about not just dual threat, but like, like, I think he's kind of, I think in his instance, dynamic has, is as much about dual threat, but also elite talent is what I, is what I think he's getting out there. I guess, I do, I just, that's why I laughed when the whole Lamar Jackson stuff was saying, I was like, all right, we need to relax, like, he's nowhere near Lamar Jackson's elite talent running the fourth, Riley Leonard, he's no over here anymore. Yeah, Jay Thomas was like, yeah, he's, he's like Lamar Jackson, like, yeah, stop, stop and even Marcus Freeman had to say, yo, relax, I, I think it's, I think it's so many things that have been unfair to Riley Leonard before he even took the field from an expectation standpoint. And that's what I just don't like, man. I just don't like when people, because for me, I, I thought he still needed work. And I think missing a full half a season stunted a little bit of that and then to be entered in the spring didn't help and then, you know, not getting the majority of the snaps, you know, it's like, oh, we're not, if he's the guy, let him be the guy. Let him get ready, get him ready to go, because he needs, he needs to work. He needs to work. He has some things he needs to figure out. He needs, he has a rough edges that he needs to smooth out, like, get him ready, put him in the best position to be able to play the position, regardless of what you asked him to do. Right. So he took a lot of heat, sorry about that. He took a lot of heat last week, but like that played a Devon forward. I'm like, dude, that's spinning out of a sack, I bearing down on you trying to get rid of the ball and be accurate. That's, that's not you. And fans are like, you got to make that play. If he makes that play as a touchdown, like, yeah, I felt like he got chased and it would have been nice for him to be on target to both columns on that last drive when he got flushed out. Like, yo, still opportunity. Yeah, you got flushed, but yo, the dynamic can make that play. Make that play. It's there. He didn't make it, so, you know, I'm, I think it's, don't put, don't put that on the kid yet. And he, oh, he's, he was rough coming in. You knew that you knew the passing game needed work. I'm just disappointed. I'm shocked that they said some of the things they said on the national broadcast today. Today. Oh, yeah. That was unfair. Like Trevor pointed out what Marcus Freeman said before the game. And then Dan Hicks and Jason Garrett, like, leaking stuff that was said with their meeting with Mike Dembrock. Mike Dembrock. Yeah. We met with Mike Dembrock. And Mike Dembrock said he is who he is. He's a runner and we're going to have to help elevate him in the passing game. I'm like, why would you even say that on the broadcast? Like, that's, that's the information you allow to stay between you and the coordinator. You don't, you don't say that across and like, now, like, why would you put that on this kid? Why? It's. And if he is that your talent at quarterback is too good to still go with that. If you truly believe that, then, then he shouldn't be your quarterback. And you've got the three kids, but look, I'll even throw Steve Angeli in there. Like, if you don't think this kid can complete, like, I think Steve has trouble processing information and things like that. But what you're not going to do with Steve is rely, overly rely on him running the ball. And you're going to let him throw the ball down to fit a little bit. If you really believe that about him, then he shouldn't be your quarterback. Hey, Brian. Do you remember what Bo Cola said this week? I thought that was strange too. He met with the media and they asked him about his big play opportunities. And he said, I'm paraphrasing here, but he said something to be effective. I'm not worrying about, you know, Riley working through his progressions. And I just, it just struck me a strange, like, what are we talking about here? It was just, it's just some really weird things being said and leaking out, man, concerning rallying limit. And I just think it's on, I'm like, yo, this is, this is unfair to the kid is like, I'm not shocked that he was rough around the edges in the passing game. I think everybody knew that that needed work, but not this bad. No. No, I don't think anybody expected this bad. I don't think anybody that's my question is, yeah, he regressed mightily at Notre Dame, like Mark Stewart says, Riley is not dynamic. It'll be proven when he never plays the NFL. Come on guys, we have eyes. Yeah. So do I. So does he. So does he. Right. So there's a reason people were high on Riley Leonard. Yes. He is a dynamic quarterback. We've seen him be a dynamic quarterback. What he's doing at Notre Dame is not what he did a Duke. And that's a problem. Just like Sam Hartman wasn't at Notre Dame, what he was anything close to what he wasn't. Okay. So we knew he wasn't going to pass for almost 4,000 yards different often. He couldn't even snip 3,000 yards last year. So, no, I mean, I'm sorry, yes, yes, he's got to play a lot better. But there's, there's a reason that there's a reason this keeps happening. It's almost like we are too late, like, remember, we said, um, if Jack Cone is stayed an extra year and played with that offensive line, 22, like, Oh man, things would have been so much better. And it's almost like if Riley had played behind that offensive line last year, Oh yeah. It's crazy or Sam played behind this offensive line or like in this offensive system, I should say. Right. Right. Yeah. It's almost like, yo, we get the right guy, but he's not in the right gear. But with the right thing, it's frustrating, it's, you know, it's, it's like, I'm just so tired of talking about, we'll wait till next year. I hated it under Brian Kelly and I hate it just as much under Marcus Freeman. I'd been on any thanks for the super chatters, addition like any other masters and Notre Dame with a bad loss. Yeah. I'd with another one. How in the heck do we not go deep? Why God? Why? Eight twice, just didn't go well either time. Once not on the quarterback, once flat out, 100% on the court. Oh yeah. No doubt. Not making excuses. Man. Not at all. That was awful. Nidabita. Thanks for the super chat. Nidabita. I would be one to bet you. That's what that one is. Cool. Thank you. Just trying to just trying to get some getting the right. Let's see. When I when I do PA, it's just like, you know, just kind of just roll through it. Yeah. Congratulations. It's a red. Is that Renita? Darnita? Anita. Hey, whatever it is. I appreciate it. Something. It's something. Yes. You're right. It probably is needed. Yeah. They clearly watched no film on this team. They clearly did not practice hard. They did not come ready to play. They just they played just like they played at Clemson. I was at the CU game. They didn't even try. I mean, my first thought is this, right? Trevor, there's no way they didn't watch film, but they played like a team that didn't watch film. Correct. You know what I mean? Like, clearly they want, but like they were so unprepared. It's like, how can I tell her, no, I need a, no, no, no, you're wrong. You're wrong. I mean, like, like the Clemson game, like she's, she's right. She's right. They played with no fire, no passion, no heart. And I don't say no heart lightly, guys. You know that. So I mean, how do you push back on this, Trevor, because that's how they played. I don't know. That's what stuff. I don't know if you can. I brought it up earlier in the show, but the defense was missing things that I caught just watching a 14 minute highlight video of Northern Illinois versus Western Illinois. Yeah. Now, I don't know if Al Golden specifically was like, we're just not going to watch this. I, I, by the way, how I know a football program operates. I think there is a zero percent chance that they didn't watch film, but I think that's what makes it more concerning. I guess it'd be concerning on both fronts. But the fact that you on paper, theoretically prepared for this, and that was still the product on the field, I like, I don't know what you say to that. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Taylor, thanks to the super chat. It's Ryan Leonard starts next Saturday, somebody needs to be fired, Adrian Hooks, thanks for the super chat. Sean, they better listen to Malik. Do you have any idea what that, what that means? Yeah, you know, Malik is not the, no, no, no, in all fairness, he had a reason why he was not comfortable with Riley Leonard going into the season. It was all about preparation. First year, transfer quarterbacks being entered in the spring and not, he was upset because he felt like him, Riley's the guy, he needs to get 70% of the snaps in fall camp after missing the spring. You need to get him ready. That didn't take place. I'm worth, I'm worth, he said, I know I had the same injury as a quarterback. I know the difficulty coming back and it's not as easy to play the position unless they're preparing. He didn't get those reps. He didn't go those reps. I'm talking about just not just Riley, but Malik. Yeah. And Malik, that's what he's saying. He was like the 16 coming back. I didn't get the reps. He needed that. And I needed them. Absolutely. Yeah. That may try to make him run as a advisor offense, but that's a different conversation for a different day. Yeah. You know, when you rig the game, you're going to get that result, right? But that's a good point. So that was his concern. That's why it's very fair. Yeah. That's why I say like this is, this is not just a Riley Leonard problem. There's a reason Riley Leonard has regressed significantly since last year. This staff has not done a good enough job preparing him. You go into every game with some easy throws. If we, if we need to get into a rhythm, here's some easy throws that we like. I couldn't tell you what those are for Notre Dame because they didn't go. They didn't go. They don't go to him. I think the only easy screen for him, or only easy play for him is the tunnel screen. Spark, I think two 19. Thanks for the super chat. Well, we just witnessed the worst interception thrown by Notre Dame quarterback and Notre Dame history. That's not true. Do, as the word, did the words Pat Dillingham, just BC just pop into anybody's head when you thought about that one, um, it was bad, but there have been, I mean, Tyler Buckner's picked six against Marshall, you know, like guys, we've just been some. It's picked six against South Carolina in the ball game, which, which one goes out that tied it up like Tommy Reese in the end zone against Michigan. Tommy Reese at the end of the Utah game, like, yep, I was going to say, Tommy, Tommy Reese, 2012 pit, started the quarter, looked like it's an out route to the corner. Yeah. That's a bunch of bad interceptions. Yeah. I'm still going to Pat Dillingham against BC and you're probably right at the top of my list. You're probably right. There's a lot of candidates. Let's put it that way. It's pretty bad. Yeah. But it wasn't that bad. Right. McKay Rippy. Thanks for the super chat. The only reason to play Riley was to put on his Superman cave to win important games. It's officially a rebuilding year bench Riley bringing car. Yeah, I don't agree with that. I mean, I don't even want to get into there's still a lot to play for thing and all that because it's just, it's not, you don't just abandon the season at this point. It's one game at a time. I know that sounds like coach speak, you know, people were in the chat earlier, you know, can they still make the playoff or the playoffs possibility on all that? Like that is not the conversation that even needs to be had right now, right? I mean, it's, yeah, I know it's right there for you. Oh man. Wow. Wow. It's like friendly fire. No, I think, you know what that I think you guys pointed something out. And now that I think about it, once again, it just goes to being unfair. Like, you don't go get that kid and tell him not to be that you don't tell him. We just need you to play within our office. No, he's that's him. Yes. Let him be dynamic. And if you don't want to be good and then bench him till he's healthy. Absolutely. That's right. Totally unfair. That's like, you know, asking me as a center to come out and play point guard, like that's not gonna go well and I mean, yeah. Matt last. Thanks for the super chat. I really appreciate it. Hey, guys, been a while. Just wanted to pop in and say second and one in positive territory to put the game away. And that's when they take a shot down the field with price and love in your back field. I'm actually perfectly fine with them. Me too. I feel it. I don't like that shot. Yeah. Thank you. I'm just also open in my opinion on the other side. I don't like that. I'm a fan of like taking something that's working to the sideline or an outside go ball or some kind of like clear with an over type of thing, which is what I think they were kind of trying to do. Double post, right? Yeah. So I actually think because you have love and price in your back field and Riley Leonard's runner, that's actually the perfect time to take a shot. You just don't take that shot. You don't take that over the over the middle of field post shot. That's the shot you don't take. Correct. So, so, yeah, I get the frustration. Somebody else say it, need a beta. Thank you. Thanks for the super chat. I didn't want to butcher your name again. So, you know, respect. They have four other QBs on the team, three scholarship one. Yeah, there's four. Yeah, five. Say, you think Riley Leonard's that bad, then you should he your depth chart is such that you shouldn't have to correct deal with whatever issues you think he has on like if he's really struggling that bad in practice, then he shouldn't be your starting quarterback guys. Right. Yep. Could not agree more to that. Andy Milton fan. Thanks for the super chat quotes when all is well, all is not well, unquote. The life of a Notre Dame fan. Yeah. Right. T three. Thanks for the super chat. Fire Freeman tomorrow. You don't come here for your first head coaching job talking about national championships and lose to Marshall Stanford NIU, not acceptable. Well, I mean, Nick Saban had coaching experience in loss of Louisiana and rode some really bad teams his first couple his first year. But eventually you get past that. I have no Marcus Freeman's not going to fail because he lost to Marshall and Stanford. Marcus Freeman, if he if he doesn't make it, it's going to fail because he didn't learn the lessons needed to make sure it didn't happen again in year three. That's the difference. But also the difference, I think Nick Saban had a well to pull from as far as championship football. Mm hmm. Marcus Freeman, he's dependent on someone else as well. Right. And you got to be your own well. Mike, Mike, you're correct. My point is simply lots of coaches have the losses he had in your one. Yeah. That you learn from it. Yeah. That's the first thing is he's he's learned from certain mistakes in a lot of areas. But this thing, what we saw today, still there because you can lose tough games. But there's something there is a lining that connects all three of these losses. That's the issue. Yeah. That's the issue. There is a similarity in all three of these losses. They're very similar. So that that is when you start to identify this might be a trend in a prop. Yep. This might be a trend in a prop, right? So Joe, thanks for the super chat hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard. It's like, yeah, I agree. I don't disagree with that statement, but it. But the way they played today is not like a team that prepared hard. I mean, like a team that practiced hard this week doesn't play the way they played today. And just to, you know, I'm just trying to confirm a couple of things, but some things I heard I'll tell you guys after the show makes me wonder like did they did they look at this? Like the ball state game in 2018, I mean, I know none of them were here then, but come on, man, like, I mean, same way, not meaning like they looked at it. Oh, remember the ball state game? No, no, no philosophy was similar to the one I gave this is a get right game. I know exactly what you're saying, not prepare. Let's not get his man. And to a degree, understand it, you know, it was a hot week and, you know, but yeah, this team did not prepare. They did not play like a team that put in the work during the week of practice. Right. Hmm. Andrew Burt. Thanks for the super chat. See, and Riley Leonard's face on the sideline before the last drive said it all. He was already defeated. Trevor, did you do? I didn't watch the TV broadcast. Was that did you happen to see that by chance? Yeah, I did. I don't know if I want to say defeated. I would definitely say overwhelmed, which is also not fantastic. Good. Guys, how does that happen though? Like we just saw the same kiddo we could go on the road at Kyle Field have the exact same expression, like what happened in his head that got broke today that that's the case. Like this isn't the first game of the year, didn't we see him lead them on a fourth quarter drive last week where he threw two great balls? Like that's what's so crazy about this. That's what I don't understand. I got nothing. Like I usually can explain something. Hey, look, this is, I don't like it. I don't agree with it. This is what happened. I don't understand. Trevor, I mean, you, you were not both quarterbacks. I don't want to see how you go from that mentality one week to this man to that. I just, I don't understand, dude, I don't get it. The only thing I can draw back to is lack of trust somewhere, but even then it doesn't make sense because of what happened week one. I would have understood, not accepted. I would have understood if this happened week one where you don't trust your guys, but I don't understand where the monumental fall off was from literally seven days ago from like right now, I don't know where that disconnect happens. The 80s guy. Thanks for the super chat. I'll be the face of optimism. Oh, that's brief. It's only one loss. The season isn't over. However, there needs to be a quarterback change. Okay. It's optimistic. There. Cool. I mean, he's right. Things need to change. Yeah. I'm not saying what it is or was it. I'm not going to say it's not quarterback. No, I'm not either. Trevor's point, if the quarterback had the defeated look on his face, I can live with a guy misses a read guy doesn't do I mean, I can live with a pick if you're mentally not like you can't go in. That's what I can't deal with. And I'm not saying that was the case. I didn't see it. I'm just saying in theory, you got to be able to all of us have been in sports on as players and coaches. You're looking at somebody's eyes and you just know they don't they're not they're not about this. Yeah. And when you see that, I can't I can't, you know, Mike Singletare, right? Can't do it. Can't win with him. Yeah. I'm not saying he was that way saying if that was the case, sure, that would make me think about making a change. Not that he played poorly. It would be that. Sure. You know, the biggest thing that I think today lack too is, you know, when when you play on a team and we all get it, Brian, to your point, we all play ball at some level and in different sports, you want the ball in your hand when you're that guy. Yeah. Sure. And it felt like an offense. Yeah. Yeah. That's even crazier about the fall off, but today across the board, it looked like everybody else was waiting for everybody else to make that play. That's a great point, Trevor. That's what it looked like. It's a great point. Dragons 42. Thanks for the super chat. I understand. Jaguar saw got hurt and two guys went to the NFL last season, but it is a glit, but is it? No, but it is a glaring recruiting failure to not have better offensive tackles than you at three marks. Freeman was the portal ever considered. Well, yeah, it was. There was nobody out there really that was worth getting. That was legit. It was better than the guys you had on your roster. Yeah. Coaches don't plan for losing two true junior tackles. It just rarely happens, you know, and you're normally going to turn to your sophomore stud. You know, I mean, they had some on, you know, Joey Tanona's car accident running. I mean, there's been some unfortunate things. But when they recruited Joe Walt, at what point in time did, you know, okay, he's going to be a three year player and then be a top five pick. I mean, you know, you figured it out eventually he could be that, but, you know, just, yeah. T three, if you watch the peacock Doc Freeman comes off as a hit, a God Hollywood celeb if he wants to be a movie star, let him go be that. Look, he's doing what people are asking him to do. All right. Notre Dame fighting Irish media is asking him to be in a documentary. They're asking the job do things like that's, I don't think he's like, Hey, let's do a documentary about me. Like, I don't think that I look, I'm not here to defend Marcus Freeman, but at the same time, come on, I mean, he's not the one to sign the peacock peacock contract that we're going to do here. Come the Irish. Correct. But when you don't have your team ready to play against Northern Illinois, a week ago, man, that was a great, great show. Then you lose. That's some bull crap. If you were being holly, you know, right, right, up. Yes. So if you're going to do all that, then you better back it up. Yeah. It's like talking trash. Vince, if you're going to run your mouth and talk trash and you're playing pick up basketball, you better frickin be good. Yep. You know, Gabe a thanks for the super chat offense has looked uninspired under three straight offensive coordinators. I mean, yeah, need a beta. Thanks for the super chat. Marcus Freeman is not calling the plays. They need to play multiple quarterbacks that I'm sorry. Multiple quarterbacks is not the answer, but well, and the only way that would be the answer Vince is if you had like a Tyler Buckner, Tim Tebow type of just pure runner that gives you something that the other quarterbacks don't have, and they don't have that. They're all pure quarterbacks. Kenny Menci is not the kind of athlete that you're going to do that with. And Riley Linder is not the kind of athlete. He's, you know, he's not that you're not going to start someone else and bring Riley in just to do that. But you're correct. Marcus Freeman is not calling plays, but again, they are he's made very clear. They are carrying out his philosophy. He said that to me in an interview in a one on one back when we were allowed to have one on ones. They don't do that anymore at Notre Dame. But yeah, I mean, I didn't thank you for the super chat. How did not one leader or playmaker take over a super chat just for more rants. I don't mind coach SIG put in car going to be a long 11 months. Ray Price. Thanks for the super chat. Sean, you hit all the right points. Start with the quarterback. Next is the D line. I feel like a fool because I still love Notre Dame. It's like watching the Cowboys. How do you think Sean feels? All right, on Steyers, right? That's what I meant. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. Uh, but yeah, yeah, I believe me guys, we get it. I might even be more pissed to play the defensive line because of yeah, I'm more shocked by them than I am right. Shock is a good answer. Yeah. Yeah, I'm more shocked about that performance today. Relic you. Thanks for the super chat. I feel right now the way I felt in 2009 when Weiss's team lost to Navy, second loss to them that broke a 40 year streak. It confirmed my worst fears. That was the team program. This is Marshall 2.0 and this is who we are. It's hard to argue against that until they prove otherwise, Sean, like what did you say earlier? It's, it's the substance has got to be there. Yeah, man. When you keep, it's like when someone shows you who they are, eventually you need to believe it. Yeah. You need to believe it until you see different and yeah, it is what it is. And the Milton fan, thanks for the super chat. The offense plays not to make a mistake. And yet mistakes are made. So I added that last part for people. Well, we've said that a million times guys when you, when you, when you put, when you coach that way, that ultimately ends up being what you get. We said this during the Brian Kelly era. And this is what the always, I've said this, I will say we've said this before. That is always my fear when you hired defensive head coach. Well, thank you. Thanks for the super chat. Sean, no need to go to church tomorrow with your NIU fam. You and Ryan have been preaching the truth tonight. I am at a loss. Where do we even go from here as fans? Yeah. Might actually be a good place to go. No, no, I have to my, both of my sisters graduating from NIU and two of my cousins. I'll see all four church departments. So it's going to be, they're going to let me have it. Don't worry. I talked a lot of trash leading up to this game. And I'm going to have to eat every word, they're going to make sure that I eat every word. You just got to take it, man. Like at that point, you just got to take it. Put it, let the Lord, let the Lord put your armor on, but you got to take it, man. I mean, where do we go from here? You're a fan, you show up, you know, you're a fan or not. You watch the Purdue game, you know, when they play Louisville, we got to show up and we hope they show up, right? I think that's why people get frustrated by what we're seeing right now and what we saw under Brian Kelly is because they don't always show up. It's one thing to lose because you played your butt off and just want like, like Charlie losing to Michigan State in '05 and USC in '05 and Ohio State in '05, you could live with it because they just, they played hard, they just, they weren't the better team that day. This team's losing the teams that they have no business losing to. Kelly's teams were that way for a long time and eventually he started beating the teams you're supposed to beat. But like then they'd lose the wild. You're like not even, they're not even playing hard. It's like, like Vince, the thing that launched this whole IB YouTube club was us being pissed off at the Alabama game because they played not to get blown out. This is Notre Dame, man. So true, Trevor, people at Notre Dame would have that same appreciation for what the history of Notre Dame is all about, Trevor, thanks for the super chat. Appreciate truly disappointing to watch this afternoon, but on Saturday nights like this, I'm thankful for Irish breakdown. I appreciate that, man. Thank you, Trevor. I appreciate that because I'll tell you what, this is not an easy thing to do. After a loss like this, I'll be honest with you as much as I love this is the last thing I wanted to do. It's cathartic, but this is the last thing I wanted to do. I don't want to talk to anybody. I just want to sit by myself in my room and rewatch the game and scream at the TV. Yeah, we Ross the game is even more torture, frankly, but yes, screaming at it makes me feel better. Okay. Because I couldn't do it at the stadium. Yeah. What the? Yeah. Except that one time when you're trying to show me that highlight. All right. Yeah, I had the headphones on. I didn't realize how loud I was talking. Hey, Vince, look at this. It was so funny because it just so happened to be super quiet when you did this, a random old boy. Hey, look at this. It's Tourette's. I'm sorry. Oh, it's great. Anyway, sorry. All right. Dr. Bulldogs, thank you very much for the super chat. I blame the offense 100% as well as section 129 who never stood up on third and fourth down until it was 30 seconds left, despite my efforts should have taken the one on one match ups when they had them. He nailed that. There were definitely opportunities where you got like bow columns and Chris Mitchell and guys like that against a one on one and just would not take the shot. Just it's just cowardice. I hate to say it's probably mean, but I'm just pissed. Jacob mirrors. Thanks for the super chat. My first born baby was born this week. Congratulations, Jacob, welcome to the, the land of father, dumb appreciate that. Maybe he will see Notre Dame win a national championship in his lifetime. Hope so. Ryan, didn't we say that last year? What? Then we come out and watch in the film against Ohio State and say, why did you go? Why did the sample to trigger? Yeah. Why is he just not pulling the trigger? He said the same thing with your pine. Same thing. Like, that's what. That's the whole point, Sean. It's the same stuff and it's stuff that we didn't see from those players at other schools. That's my point. So okay, Notre Dame, it's overwhelming, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, but like, whatever. It's almost like, dude, someone has you so scared of making a mistake. Wonder who that could be. Wonder who that could be. Andrew Burt, thanks for the super chat. The most concerning takeaway from this game, like Marshall and Stanford, is the team had no juice going through the motions. It's on coaching. 100%. Yeah. Agreed. 100% Andrew. Now these two for two, I think tonight. Alex Roar. Thanks for the super chat. Really sick of giving all these other teams their moment. When is it going to be Notre Dame's moment? Frustrated is an understatement, feeling more heartbroken. All love though to the IB crew. Thanks, Alex. Pence, or Trevor, every time I feel like they have one of those moments, they piss it away. I was about to say, we had a moment. They had a moment last week. Yeah, it was like seven days ago. Clemson 2022. Yeah. Right. Yeah. They, the team has had their moments and it's very short lived. I mean, even, even some national media outlets who historically criticized Notre Dame weekend and week out even gave their just dues after last week and here we sit tonight. Yeah. Same old Notre Dame. Everybody's going to say, and you know what, they're not wrong running out of arguments against it. Can't wait to hear it when I get to school on Monday. Look, all Notre Dame fans, they get to go to work on Monday. We're all going to take it. We're all going to take it on the chin and you just got to eat it. That's why I'm here tonight. Mouse will you. It's only reason I jumped on the show. I mean, I wasn't going to make you guys be the only ones to take it. We're all going to eat it on Monday. It just is what it is. You're going to be like, yeah, you're right. Their name's Stunk. I don't want to tell you, AST12321, thanks to the super chat, should we try to beat UF in the coaching carousel undeniable that Freeman doesn't have it with multiple home group of five losses as a ranked team? My opinion is absolutely not. Would be an incredibly dramatic overreaction. Correct. I completely agree. And you're going to say, well, who the hell is going to want that job if you're going to do that? William Chesney. Thanks for the super chat guys. It's starting to show Marcus Freeman is one of the best hype men front running coaches. When things go sideways, he seems shook at times, playing safe to survive an analytic guy following him nonstop. I'm going to have to look at the game. Was that happening? Apparently. Yes. Yes. Seriously? Ask him. Should I take a time out here? Should I do this? Yes. What the heck? Yes. Wow. All right. The Arsenal sports guy got called out for week sauce. That's the thing is like, at least that's the way it came across the team. It's like that's he didn't get shook last week. That was a coach with full confidence in his team's preparation. So when the fourth quarter came, he was good. And then this week, I mean, he looked, he had no answers. None. He did look shook for a couple of times. I saw him on the side. He didn't. I felt like I was watching Miracle. It's worth the hand when Kurt Russell's character looks at me because he doesn't know what to do. All right. That's what it looked like a couple of times. Andrew Burke, thanks for the super chat. Why take a 62 yard field goal when you have one timeout? I know it's five seconds, but you can try a quick slant or an out route. I would have just put it up into the zone. I don't think they had any on it. They had one. They did have one? Yeah. They left the game with a timeout still in their pocket. Are you effing? I thought they were out. Are you effing kidding me? Yeah. They clocked it. Nope. They weren't supposed to have it, though. Yeah. It was a blessing because the clock was supposed to, I think after the review, after the penalty or review? No, it wasn't after the review. Yeah. It was supposed to have a line in the clock and they didn't, so they kept the timeout. Yeah. They started the clock. Yeah, that is even worse because I'm sitting there thinking like, okay, you don't have any timeouts, you know, if guy gets tackling bounds, but this, because now you have, you could have literally run a little angle route to, to Aeneas Williams popped it 70 or go down and call them like good God. I mean, any yards, any yards are better when you're trying a 62 yard field goal. Okay. Like you get 10. Now you got a shot that I mean, yeah, no, that he had a timeout in his pocket. He still has it. He's still there. That's even worse. Yep. Yeah. Wow. Nope. Life. NUP. Life. You got it. 007. Okay. New life. 007. Thanks for the super chat. Appreciate you. Appreciate you, man. Well, thanks for the super chat. Appreciate you. Try the wisest last belt loop. Thanks for the super chat. Mr. Davis, it is boring to watch. Then people are surprised top explosive kids don't want to come to Notre Dame. Freeman is the issue three OCs and three years. Yeah. That's, I said that earlier be where before you got on, it's, it's just boring football as well. And look, we talked, we talked about. We're commits, I don't care if you got CJ, Carter, Kenny, Menchie, Noel Grubs, whoever, but you don't use them. You went out and got the top portal quarterback in most people's minds and this is what you do with them. Why the heck would I want to play that off? I mean, I, yeah, 100% Charlie and look, we talked about the fact this offense was going to be explosive and then it would turn kids towards Notre Dame. It's regressed. It's doing the opposite right now. It's regressed. So if one thing's true, then the other thing has to be true too. Yeah. I mean, that's all I can say about that. Marquis Stewart. Thanks for Super Chat. The quarterback played awful football. There's literally not a person in the show that's saying otherwise, no, completely remark. Jacob Mears. Thanks to Super Chat. Maybe there's a reason Marcus Freeman is on his third OC in three years. I would love it if sometimes on posts like this, people explain what they mean because we don't necessarily know what you think that means. Right. You know, there is a reason. One guy went to Alabama, you know, one guy got a head coaching job and I wonder if he means like there's a reason people keep leaving. Yeah. I think that's fair. I think that's what he's getting there. That's fair. Well, the cue, thanks for Super Chat. Notre Dame has somehow been breaking quarterbacks mentally since Dane Christ. Why I had been blaming Kelly is Marcus Freeman trying to run a knockoff gym trestle offense. Yeah. Yeah. That's what he's doing. That's what he knows. Coaches do what they know. Right? I mean, well, that's the case. I'm scusing it. But yeah. For a quick. That's the case. Right. If you stop going get dynamic quarterbacks, trying to make it seem a master rate as if you're about to have an explosive offense, would you not say Craig Grinsell's very similar to a guy like Riley Leonard. Riley's a little bit more athletic, but okay, you're, you're making my point even more. I mean, if you, but like, you know, trestle played, I mean, trestle played a running offense, but they still threw the ball down the field. Mm hmm. You know what I mean? Like, I mean, yeah, they didn't when they had taught back minute quarterback, but when he had, you know, legitimate quarterbacks, they would, they would still, I mean, Jim trestle was the head coach for Troy Smith, wasn't he? Mm hmm. I remember, you know, it's been a long time ago and I'm Ken kind of old, but I kind of remember Troy Smith on the ball down the field a lot when he won the Heisman Trophy. I mean, Marcus Freeman has personal experience with, you know, how a dynamic quarterback should be used. He was on a team. No, I'm saying, that's what I'm saying, like I'm, he's seen a dynamic quarterback walk into the horse. You would come away with a victory, right? With Illinois. No, Illinois. Yeah. Yeah. That's, you know, you see, but he was on the 05 team too. When Vince, you're right. When Vince, you did the same thing. He saw with his own athletic quarterback, Troy Smith did in comics. Yes. Spark 5219. Thanks for the super chat. The $64,000 question is how do we fix this? Well, we're not on the inside. So there's not a whole lot that we can, that'll be a better conversation for maybe tomorrow's upon further review, Trevor, you and I might even discuss a little bit on the, the Tuesday show as well. I mean, to give it a jumpstart on us, the valuation on this conversation. I'm talking about let out transparent, yo, what's wrong, coaches in a room, a say, even if we come to blows, it's the truth, it's the truth, but we walked out of this room in agreement and solutions. You do whatever you have to do, it starts with them before they can even go to the players. You have to figure it out. You have to come out there with a plan, whatever it is. And even if this, we're going to run the ball like him. All right, that's, that's the game plan moving forward. We're going to tighten it up even more. If that's it, stick to it, let that be the anchor of this offense, this team, we're going to be tough, hard-nosed, defense, mistake-free, if that's what it's going to be, be that. Don't play around with it, be that. If you're going to use the talents that have been added to your wide receiver room that come out and do that, and you have to be the coach that changes. You have to be the coach to say, yo, we're going to be aggressive. If we make a mistake, that's all right, our defense has our back. Our defense has our back. There's two ways you can play to a really good defense. You can play really conservative and depend on your defense, or you could be really aggressive and say, look, if we make a mistake, our defense has our back. We're going to keep being aggressive. Davos 21, two national championships doing that. Absolutely. Why did he not care about Deshawn Watson turning the ball over 17 times, because he knew he's going to make a lot of plays, and a defensive can bail him out. That's the dishing hider, defensive coach and an offensive coach has to learn. That's the biggest lesson Kirby Smart learned, whose first couple of years. Yeah, we're going to play great defense, but we can't play great defense and still do that. There's a reason Saban went away from that. We're going to find that. Now, Kirby did a better job of finding a happy medium than Nick Saban did, in my opinion, late in his tenure. But yeah, truth of all, thanks for the super chat, BD interesting quote, one constant, the last three seasons quote, thought, please expand on that. Did Marcus Freeman control Parker top 10 scoring offense again, top 10 scoring offense means none. It's what we've always said. It only matters what you do in big games. Like Trevor, you do not come to Notre Dame to dominate a three and nine pit team or central Michigan or Tennessee State or Navy. You come to Notre Dame to be oval on the road on primetime TV and Ohio State and Clemson and Texas A&M. And you know, that that's what you come here to do. Here's the deal. Todd Kirby Smart did not hire Todd Monken and say, okay, here you're going to run my offense. We're going to play ball. He said, I'm hiring you to build us a championship offense. Go do your thing. No coach likes turning the ball over none. But there's a right and a wrong way to teach being smart with the full. You got to be smart with the football. You don't protect the football. There's a difference. Trevor, you played quarterback. If I all I ever told you was, don't turn it over. Don't turn it. Eventually you're going to be like, dude, I'm afraid to, I'm afraid, I'm afraid. We saw this when he in book, he was so afraid to throw a pick because of how he was taught that he would say, I'll just scramble. And right now we're saying Riley Leonard, who's Marcus Freeman is in his ear a lot in practice and then, and he's basically got this mentality of, and he says it. I mean, he says this publicly, got to protect the football. If that's the first thing you're saying to a quarterback, you're kind of missing on how to develop a championship offense, Vince. You just are. Yes, of course you need to be smart with the football. So it's not that Marcus Freeman's calling the plays or telling them, Brock, what the play, it's, it's a mentality. It's a mindset. The most important thing is protecting the football. And eventually you're going to get to the point where you get so paralysis by analysis. I don't know if Trevor Sean said that earlier that you're then going to then go make mistakes or you're going to put yourself in these types of be aggressive, go out of team, put them away early, let your defense pin their ears back. I mean, or you do this. And one way is proven to win champion, like people say next, Jim Harbaugh was not a conservative football coach. Michigan was an aggressive team, but they were aggressive running the football with their play action passes and getting their quarterback in space, but they were still aggressive. Go look at the Ohio State game in 2022, doing stuff to get their tight end free on wheels and throwing the ball down. That's how they put the house, they had a way. And then once the Ohio State kind of backed off the run game, that's when Donovan Edwards said, okay, now I'm going to feast, right? There's a discipline saying, hey, we're going to be a running team and we're going to be a conservative team. Those two things don't go together. And so it's a mindset of passivity that just, it can paralyze you and doesn't allow you to maximize who you are as a team. And that's what we're saying. That's why you go get Chris Mitchell and then don't let him run vertical routes. That's why you get Riley Leonard and you don't let him, I mean, have they done? And one single until that last drive bootleg, one single play action, I mean, have they run anything but one or two play action passes in these two games where you fake that outside zone with him and then do some with, I mean, Northern Annoy tried that today worked out pretty good, right? So but it's, hey, we're not going to be creative because we're just going to control the clock and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, we just got our ass kicked by Northern Annoy. Pardon my language. Full life. Thanks for the Super Chat pain. All I can muster to type right now is just pain and not the Mr. T kind, but the kind you're sitting on your couch, trying eating chocolates, watching, you know, a hallmark movie. I hate, I hate to be, I hate to be that guy, but this might be the best Super Chat we got so far. I'm right there with them, a percent full life. It's just pain, man. Like, I don't even know how to process this. It's just painful, just painful. AST12321, thank you. If I can only choose one, I'd rather beat the bad teams every time, like Kelly did at the end, then occasionally beat some top 20 teams on the road. I can't say that I disagree with you. Right. Look, for all Kelly's faults at, you know, post 2016, he did beat the teams he's supposed to beat. Like, you didn't really have to worry about these types of games. Now, like, sometimes they were a little more, sometimes they were a little closer than they should have been or, you know, got your blood pumping a little bit too much, but they generally pulled them out. Right. I mean, they almost lost the two Mac teams in his last couple of years, but they didn't. Yeah. But they didn't. But they didn't. Right. You know what I mean? Like, we would always come on here and be like, that was a horrible performance. At the end of the day, they got the W, like I was already rehearsing that intro in my head, you know, when I was driving home, players need to step up Vince. Yeah. In my opinion, like Sean, how many times have you, me, you and Malik and other guys that played on some of Kelly's teams talked about the fact that they were just like, look, we know Kelly coaching will put us in a position to be successful. So that's on us that this team that this team had that last week, they don't have that this week. Yeah. I mean, at some point in time, you can say coaching, smoking, whatever. I'm going to go out there, make a dang frickin play. I'm going to go make a stop. I'm going to go make a tackle. I'm going to go, you know, whatever that man. Andy Milton fan. I don't want Marcus Freeman to go. I'm a huge fan of his, but how does one change to his philosophy of being scared of making mistakes on offense? Is it fixable? Trevor. Yeah. I think it is. Just stop. Sorry. No, no, I'm kicking it to you. Stop. Yeah. This is the way we're doing it. Stop. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. A lot of self reflection. I don't, I, I'm not here to make excuses for anybody, but this is Marcus Freeman's third year being a head football coach, not just at Notre Dame, not just in South Bend ever. And there's a lot that you have to learn. I'm, I'm sure, you know, coaches like Kirby smart would even be one of the first people to say, I'm not the same coach that I was last year. It's a continuous learning process. And I wholeheartedly believe that, you know, Marcus Freeman is the person for this job. It's just more learning and the next biggest hurdle that he's going to have to get over is I'm going to have to rethink my ideology of what this football team is going to be about. I have to reconstruct the direction that this is going to go and how we're going to get there. And that's where you start. I, I do 100% believe that this is fixable. And I think a lot of other people do too, where else Marcus Freeman would have been fired already. It can be fixable. Sean, the question is, will it get fixed? That's the biggest question. That's the biggest. Look, Brian, go up before destruction. Right. Hey, you could be prideful already in your guns, stick to your guns or you can have honest conversation and evaluation and see yourself. This is not the path I need to be going down. I love it. Sean, I'm just going to, this is an aside. We're going to be making a visit and passing through Chicago here in a few weeks. Absolutely. I'm stopping by on Sunday mornings, man. I want to hear you do your thing. It's always in Sunday mode. I know. But like, I just feel like I need to see it, man. I'm inspired by Sean so much. I need to see him in his Sunday mode. That's all. I look forward to events. Hey, I look forward to it. Anyway, sorry for the, the aside there, Joe, thanks for the super chat. So I didn't think I could feel worse. But now knowing that we need to find a new coach is really crushing, Doug. Well, I will say this, there is no doubt that Notre Dame needs to find a new coach. I just don't, what I don't necessarily mean that means to be someone other than Marcus Freeman. It's a different Marcus Freeman. This is a, every coach goes through this, right? Matt Brown went through this about seven, eight, five, six, seven, eight years at Texas and he finally said, Hey, I can't keep running this offense. It's just keep getting by, you know, by, by Oklahoma, I'm going to do something different. So he changed his offense, went out and got Vince Young, went out and got McCold McCoy. Next thing you know, he's a Hall of Famer, right? Like this one, and I said this with other coaches, I said this fixing something doesn't always isn't always firing is not always the answer. If a coach is unwilling to change, then that's the answer. But Marcus Freeman does enough good things where if he's willing to make the changes, you absolutely give him the opportunity to do that because he does so many of those other things so well. So yeah, I mean, look, that's always the easy answer. Fire this guy, bench that guy. That's not always the answer. It's not always the answer. I said, that's the easy answer. It's not always the right one, right? Necessarily. Necessarily. So it's always the, it's always the easy response. It's not always the answer. There you go. That's a good way to put it. Reza, thanks for the super chats. Really appreciate it. What would you do to fix this? Reza, we, we, we, I promise you, we are going to have multiple shows on that this week. I don't want to disrespect your super chat. But it, it's a long answer and we're 350 in, it's a long answer. But at the end of the day, Sean said it earlier. It's, and Trevor said it as well. It's a lot of at the coaching and player level. It's a lot of looking in the mirror, judging yourself before you start blaming everybody. I was like, you know, like, you want to get into Sunday mode. The Bible does not teach people you shouldn't judge. That's not biblical. The Bible says, don't judge until you have first looked at yourself. It says, take the log out before, doesn't say take the log out and then sit down and shut your mouth. It says, take the log out first, then, right? There's biblical, there's biblical instruction to how to properly present judgment on a person. But that better not come. You don't go over to somebody's house, Sean. You and another brother in the church and submit changes. Don't step out on your wife when you're stepping out on your wife, right? Judgment has to happen, but you have to look at yourself first and anyone not willing to look at himself first is not someone you're going to win with. And that's the reality and that begins at the top and it goes on down. And replacing people, firing people, is not always the thing. Angel, if we believe in the track record, the fast majority of the time, Marcus Freeman has pointed the finger back at himself in tough times. Very rarely do you see Marcus Freeman. That's true. Talk about anybody else at the time. I haven't listened to him after this game, but it's very rare that he points the finger as someone else. So if I would bet that he's going to look within himself, now whether or not he looks within himself evaluates and then makes the necessary change, that's an entirely different discussion. Right. That's the concern, but yet there are plenty of times where he has looked in the mirror for self reflection, but clearly this is one he has failed to see. And you made this big old stink about surrounding yourself with your guys. Well, your guys need to be willing to speak truth to you and you need to be willing to listen. That's what we need to hopefully that we'll learn after they've kind of looked in the mirror on themselves. So yeah, it's going to be interesting. Michael S. Thank you very much. I thought we were long past this kind of game deluded again. I feel you, buddy, didn't see this one coming. I'm not going to lie. Nut crud. Thanks for the super chat. Admittedly, I am down on letter that picking the fourth cost the game. Let's put him aside. What does it take to score 17 points? Is it Freeman? How's it fixed? We don't have the, we don't have the dudes. What is it? And we did kind of address this turn to show quarterbacks got to play better. Players got to be put in better position to be successful when the quarterback does get you to ball, freaking catch it, make some third downstops. And there's so many things that need to be fixed. It just really comes down to being more of an aggressive mindset, being more prepared to come out and play your best week after week after week. You don't have to be, you don't have to respect your opponent to respect the game, to respect Notre Dame. People that respect the game, people that respect Notre Dame don't come out and think another team is going to lay down and die. They make them lay down and die. I'm not going to, I'm not going to just assume you're going to kneel before me. I'm going to force you to do so, right? And it's a mentality thing, man. I go back to it. It's a mentality thing. Today wasn't about sloppy play. We've seen teams play sloppy and win games. Today was you didn't play hard. That team punked you on your own field and you did nothing about it. You got slapped in the face and you took your ball and went home. DK, fire, Jim, Jim Tressel, Jim Tressel won a championship. I was going to say, it should be like Jim Tressel Jr. Riza, thanks for the super chat, SD nailed it. This offense is boring to watch. I'm an obsessed fan of this team, but I'm getting closer to becoming disinterested until we have an offense and a mindset that resembles something of this century. And brother, I feel you. I mean, we talked a lot about it, guys, but I mean, yeah, I get it. It's not fun to watch. It's nothing. That was absolutely nothing spectacular about Northern Illinois's game. But it was it was it was entertaining. It was creative. It was very creative. You know what I'm saying? It was like, yo, okay, man, wow, conservative, it was basic, it was so basic. It wasn't. But it wasn't. But it wasn't. Trevor, it was a creative running game. That's what I say. Just because your conservative doesn't mean that means run the ball, right? One of the most creative game plans I've seen from a Notre Dame offensive coordinator in the last 20 years was what Tommy Reese did to Clemson in 2022. They threw for 85 freaking yards. That was one of the most creative game plans that we've seen. Creativity doesn't equal throwing the ball 70 times. Be creative. Go hire an air raid guy. No, use your pieces. Do something to put pressure on the other teams schematically alignment wise. You know what I'm saying? Like that's a frustrating thing. Trevor is I don't even want to be mad that they want to run the ball because actually through the ball, decent amount today is just boring. There's just nothing there. You do nothing to put pressure on the defense, man. Michigan won a national championship running the football. Yes. But they were creative. Yeah. Mm-hmm. They would take shots. They were aggressive. They were coming in aggressive as can sometimes be. We're going to come out here and we're going to punish you, physically punish you. And that's what Notre Dame did on their last touchdown drive. That's what they did. They leaned on this game or this game. Oh, this game. Yeah. And the last one of the last games. So same. Same conversation. Well Vince, that's what they did on the first run. So why are they going away from it? Like they show they can do it. That's the, that's the frustration. Like look, I have coached teams that stink. Like they can't do it. Like they can't do it. No matter what, they can't do it. We have seen Notre Dame do it. But then they don't. And I don't, it just doesn't make sense to me. It just doesn't make sense to me. Why are you going away from what's working? Like wasn't it like in the second quarter, it was very interesting man. They ran the ball, got a first down, he was near midfield, and then they went out five wide, and Jeremiah love was all the way out to the field. And I just knew he was coming back to you. I'm like, okay, they're going to flex him back in the back field, right? Because they've just literally run the ball to this point. It's like, now you want to get cute, it, and I know you need to keep the defenses honest. But it's like, there's no need to go five. There's no need to do that. Keep them honest by running the ball or running the play action pass. Absolutely. Out of the looks, you just running the ball down the throat with. Absolutely. And I was, look, you had 30 something seconds. You know that your tackles, especially your left tackle, with the defensive end that's going to be firing off the ball because he doesn't have to worry about doing it. You're not going to have a tight end that's going to chip, they get into the pattern late. Just to give Riley a few seconds. Just an extra half second. It's almost like, give the key some help, give them some help. Give your quarterback extra half second to a second. There's just small things like that that just goes to, like I said, where's the awareness of what's going on and what's needed. 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So subscribe to Throwbacks on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get podcasts. Segan 24, thanks for the super chat. If Tario Brown didn't get hurt, it would have been worse. But they still didn't have a problem moving the ball. So I don't know that it mattered, like that's the most, but that's the more disturbing part of that whole comment, Brian, to be perfectly honest with you, I appreciate Super Chat because you're absolutely correct. He didn't play the entire fourth quarter. He was not in on the drive that Northern Illinois went a measly 31 yards, but took five and a half minutes to do it. He wasn't even there. He was on the sideline, just cheering away, like he didn't even need him to do that. That's the sad part, man. Just your ordinary Joe. Thanks for the super chat. Again, share your favorite Drew Tranquil quote, then let's hope we see a 24 iteration. It's funny. Obviously he was talking about the, when they lost to Georgia, the guys that was Georgia, not Northern Illinois. And they battled that game. They just didn't execute in some big moments, but they played their butts off. Different scenario. But he basically was like, look, I feel bad for the teams about the play. But here's the thing. There was a question. We were talking in the, I think it might have been the mailbag yesterday. And they were talking about the culture of this team. And I said, hold on a second. We don't know that the culture of this team is what 2012 was. Yeah, they looked good for a game, but can they stop doing this? That 2012 team, every game they went down, every game they played, even when they didn't play well, they played hard. Every week, they didn't always play well, always played hard. That team had a culture, that team had leaders, man, Ty was not going to let you not play hard. Ty was not going to let you not play hard, right? Zach Mark was not going to let you not play hard. Does this team have that culture? Just because they won one, yeah, it said, just like, hey, let's, let's see it happen for more than a game before we start saying this team is the 2012 culture. Because I don't know that this team is that, and we saw that today. I don't know that this team has that 2017 mentality fellows where they are going to bounce back because if they bounce back the way they did in 2017, they're going to murder a lot of opponents here moving forward. But I didn't see anything today to, because again, that's 17 team guys, they played hard against Georgia. They didn't play well. This team didn't, this team did not want to be out there today. They wanted to fast forward to the Louisville game. Not credit, thanks for the super chat. Is Marcus not the guy? If it's nothing else, is Marcus not the guy? I think we've kind of addressed that a lot. I think we have it as well. Mike Nolan, thanks for the super chat. No quarterback runs after the middle second quarter. Love one touch after the TD run was right at Leonard Hurt second and one at the 50 cried for QB run and milking clock terrible decisions. Why again, the second and one call was not the problem. That's, that's the execution was coaches do that all the time. It's a great time when you have those running backs. You take a shot to take a shot on second because you know you got it. You're going to get it on third and one. You know what I mean? Or you have confidence that that's going to happen. So I haven't questioned the problem. Pacific play call, question the execution, but that right. You can't have, you can't have revisionist 2020 vision. You know what I mean? Like that's, that's not fair to the, to the moment. Yeah. Nick Baker, thanks for the super chat. What are Trevor's socials? Trevor. Oh gosh. Um, uh, I will have to go and check. I can actually put it in the chat. There you go. I don't know them offhand enough quickly. TT row five, I think, isn't it? Yep. Yup. Tetra five. Yep. On Twitter. There it is. Tetra five. Give it a follow folks. If you guys have a problem with the, um, not pushing it all the way back on that penalty. You mean, did I have a problem with them actually pushing them back? Yeah. No. I actually thought it was the right call. Vincent actually said that it was like, look, they may convert it, but they're, they're, they're going to go for an important two and you haven't stopped them in a short yard situation, all game. And that's why make them have to beat you. And then of course they did, you know, like I actually felt that was the right call. And we actually said, even if it doesn't work, it's still the right call. And then of course it didn't work, you know, but no, I mean, at that point in time, it's like, look, you haven't stopped them for two yards all game long. And they're, it was four down territory. So I had say, put them in a passing situation and they just stopped the pass as one of the past, past defenses and coach football, supposedly it was last week. It's not now. I shouldn't say that. That's silly. That's over it. It didn't play like it today. Yeah. Yeah. Agreed. If they had been stopping them on short yardage, I would have said, no, that's not the right move. You're going to stop. They've been blowing the rain. All game in those situations. Yeah. Exactly. 100% correct. Yeah. I wonder how this looks on the Peacock special series. And we'll all have to wait till December to find out. And I don't know that I want to relive this glance over that, depends on how the season start ends. Yeah. Yeah. Good point. We can all laugh at it someday. Ha, ha, ha, ha. All right. G Rob Connolly. I am Steve. I am team Steve and jelly. Cool. Irish for life 99, thanks to the super chat. Is it time to put in cards, prepare for next season now that this season is kind of a wash already? No. I mean, the season is not a wash and if CJ or Kenny is ready to run the team, then sure. I mean, look, I don't mean any disrespect to G Rob Connolly. Love you, man. But, like, guys, he's a nice quarterback. He's not taking you to the next level. It is not. It's not the answer. And I think Kenny and CJ can, but are they ready to do that? Are they going to be given the chance to be developed in a way that's going to allow them to do that? I don't know the answer to that question. No, we all, everybody always talks about how great Geno Guduli is and I'm like, based on what? Sam Hartman's regression last year. Now Riley's regression last year, you know, look, hey, guys, if they wanted to make a quarterback change, say, we're going to go with CJ Carr, you will have no or Kenny Mitch, you will have no B for me. Nope. And I'm a, I love Riley Leonard, but like, look, we all know that's the future. If you don't think, hey, because you may say, look, we got a lot of games to play, but right now this team, it's not it. We can't, we can't accomplish what we want to accomplish this season with the way things are going now and you want to make a change. That's cool, but I just, there's nothing about Marcus Freeman that makes me think that's the movie he's going to make. I think the move he would make is to put Steve Angeli in a game and maybe that helps write the ship temporarily, but that doesn't fix a lot of the same problems because then Steve's going to get thrown under the bus in three weeks when this team fails to show up for another game. Yep. And he'll get blamed for it and it won't be his fault either. And how do I know that's going to happen? Because that's literally happened to every quarterback we've seen for how long. Remember when they tried to throw Jack co-con under the bus in 2021 and go to Tyler Buckner and then Tyler didn't do what he needed to do in second half and Jack came off the bench and rallied him and let him do that when he Virginia Tech. Right? So that's, that's, that's what happens another day because all Steve Angeli's the man and then in three weeks when Steve Angeli deals with the same things Riley Lendersfield has a bad game, team didn't show up, he gets no help from other people and he gets the blame for everything. And now it's like, hey, let's bench him for this guy. I mean, the problem is if you, if you put season in a game, you've got three quarterbacks ahead of him right now that you might lose and that's some really tricky stuff right there. Mm hmm. Jay Lamont Vince, what do you mean free men should let den brock be den brock free gave him the keys, den brock called a trash game. Let's just L J I J S in, I don't know why I'm just saying, thank you, could have worked on my texting. Bro, you're a high school dean of student dude. I text in full sentences with punctuation of my kids economy. I mean, you see the craziness. Well, yeah. No, you know, I'm with you on, you know, texting like a grown up, but but unfortunately, most of the craziness I see is in picture form. That's the problem. That's sad. Yeah. There's some right there with you. I have to ask, I have to ask my nieces and nephews, like, yo, what, what is this, no shady? Hey, seven year old nephew. Come here real quick. I'm a phone for me. Yeah. Well, you know, look, I'm not, I'm not saying we, we all agree that den brock did not call a good game today. Oh, 100%. But I also feel like I feel like there are parameters to what he's calling. That's all I'm saying. That's just what maybe, but I still think it comes down to it's a mentality of this football team that this is what we're going to do, you know, and, and we're going to, we're going to be this way. So like, like I don't think Freeman's on the thing to hate run it here. Hey, don't do this. Don't do it. Right. No, I agree with that. Right. It's the mindset of this is what I expect. But then brock's a good soldier too, man. If the head coach says this is what we're going to do. That's what I'm saying. I think it's, I think it's an offensive philosophy that comes from the head coach. He's calling the players like, like, yeah, Freeman has to call things outside of your comfort zone. Correct. There you go. It's like Trevor, have you ever coached or played in a triple option? Uh, no, if I hated you a triple option playbook, I said, Hey man, go get it done. Would you call a very good game? No. All right. So it's an extreme example, but you get the point that I'm making, right? Right. If you bring a guy in, let him do his thing. And if it's not good enough to go find somebody else, but there's a reason you brought him in. Right. Mark Eastoor. Thanks for the super chat. Appreciate it. This was a terrible loss. I'm not bailing on Freeman. I think that Riley Leonard hype was fake. I saw his weakness with my own eyes. We're going nowhere with him. Sorry fellas. Hey, go ahead, man. As I said, number one, you're going to apologize to us. That's, I mean, and then maybe that was just being sarcastic. It was a. No, no. Marc's a long time. I'd be. I agree. It was a terrible loss. I don't think he likes disagreeing with us because he's going to give us his honest opinion. And that's great. I appreciate the honest opinion. I do. I don't know. I don't think the Riley Leonard hype was fake. I don't think that's true, but he's not living up to the expectations right now. Right. Look, I'm not bailing on Freeman. I don't think Sean's bailing on Freeman Trevor. You're not bailing on Freeman, right Vince. But at the same time, you got to be willing to say, hey, coach, this is good enough. Right. It's like it's not bailing on say coach, what and it'd be also if this is the only time this had happened, like y'all are overreacted. This isn't the. He's literally lost to two Matt caliber football teams in three years, guys. Think about it. You don't have to bail on them. You can love them all you want, but you, it's also, it's also not doing it. It's not being, to me, honest when you're just, it's so, we have this debate all the time. We so easily blame the players. We due to Notre Dame players, what we hated Brian Kelly doing to Notre Dame players, which is always blaming them and never being willing to blame the head coach. Some of us are doing that. I like coach Freeman. I don't, for whatever reason, and I don't want to knock on him. So I'm going to blame Riley Leonard or I'm going to blame Riley Mills or Howard Cross or Jaden Greathouse or Drew Pine or Tyler Buckner or whoever else. I love Marcus Freeman. He's a good decent man who's done a lot of good things at Notre Dame, but this is a pattern. And you can blame Riley Leonard, just like you blame Sam Hartman, just like you blame Drew Bind, just like you blame Tyler Buckner, just like you blame Tommy Reese and Jared Parker and Mike then Brock and look, coach Freeman is the head football coach. We don't get to just praise them when things go well and then blame everybody else when they don't. Right. We're not bailing on Marcus Freeman, but this is on him. And if you want to say Riley Leonard hype was fake, then who went out and got him? Who thought he was the guy who was emphasizing him being the leader of this team? That's also still on Marcus Freeman. They could have said, Hey, let's roll with the dudes we have that he could have said, Hey, look, we're going to develop the kids that we got or we're going to go out and get somebody else a quarterback who went out and went out and got Sam Hartman. You think you think Jared Parker basically manipulated Marcus Freeman and talked him into getting Riley Leonard? You know Marcus Freeman was part of the game plan last year, Riley Leonard's hype was not fake. Riley Anderson, damn good quarterback. He never played this bad at Duke ever. So again, we can be supporters of Marcus Freeman, but it's like this Mark. If you love somebody, that doesn't mean you always tell them they're pretty and special or that they're good or what they did was good. I'm not a parent, but I was a coach on your parent. Did you ever tell your daughter she was wrong? Did you support her when she did those things? Absolutely. Were you supporting her by doing that that? I love you. That's why I'm coming down on you. Right. That's why I'm telling you, this isn't okay because I do love you. I don't want you to make those mistakes, right? So I'm not going to go blame your friend. Hey, it's not your fault, sweetheart. You were manipulated by your friends. That's why you did made the decision you did. You're okay. It's not your fault. Okay. Yeah. Riley Leonard played poorly. Let's just say everything you say about Riley Leonard is true, then Marcus Freeman's not a good evaluator of talent. We know that's not true. Yeah, we know that's not true. That's the one thing we know isn't true. So it's still on him. He picked them as a quarterback. He's the one that chose to go with them. So no matter how you spin it, he's a head football coach. We can't blame. You know what is Jackson Warburg's fault? He actually told him to go get Riley Leonard. It's still on him. Right. Am I wrong here, guys? Buckstops. Was he wrong for saying the two guys I have in this quarterback room aren't good enough because this goes back to him being honest. He looks at Drew Pawne, he looks at Tyler Buckner and he's like, not right. So the decision is to go to the court. At the same time, he knows he needs to improve the position and recruit him. He's trying to do both things at the same time. So there's an obvious, there's evidence that he knows what needs to happen at the position. But what happens once the talent is here, this is okay, why isn't this turning on? Why isn't this working? Like something's not plugged in. And now hopefully they're trying to figure out what it is, right, because it's not on display. It's like, is the HDMI cord bad? What is it? Like, do I have it on the wrong input? Is it an HDMI one and I have it on two, but like, but it's not on the screen. Whatever it is, it's not showing up on the screen. Why is that? And that's what needs to be figured out. Johnson needs to be that blind faith. Support doesn't mean always saying someone's right, even when you know they're wrong. Yeah, sometimes support his coach, I love you. Can't do that again. It's not good enough. You got to make a change. Yeah. Justin, thanks to the Super Chat, Freeman is the guy and we'll figure it out. I hope you're right. That's a glass is half full man right there. Anybody here hope that he's wrong? No, I hope he's absolutely correct. I hope he's right. Yeah, me too. And not because we, I just don't want to go to another coaching change because we all like and support Marcus Freeman. We all want him to be successful 100 percent, but we're also not going to lie about what we see men to be in wrong, but we're always going to be in our honest opinion. Yep. And his kids really good football player. I need him to stick around for another year. So he's so selfish. All right, your kids gone after this year anyway, so this is true, but you know, I'll still be there rooting for him. Devere. Thanks for the Super Chat spot on Brian. The fact that we, that we see the same offense regardless of OC is inexplicable DCC see the same tape for years and it's predictable. A&M or an I, and I Northern Illinois, just tearing Notre Dame photoball down the field today. Yes. They were going one on one. I mean, if you'd have told me that Northern Illinois was going to be in zero coverage as much as they were, I would have been like, this score is going to be, you know, ridiculous. And if you guys say, well, you guys told us the receivers are really good. Again, who, who evaluated those guys and went out and got them? Mark is bringing it. Yeah. Or at least he stamped it, you know, he stamped off on it. So he went out and recruited guys that aren't as good as the guys in Northern Illinois is out. You guys are telling me? Right. Well, whose fault does that? Was that also Riley Leonard's fault? Right. Mag champ one, thanks for the super chat. Marcus Freeman coaches not to lose rather than to win. He needs to let the kids play freely and live with some mistakes. Cool. Kenny Moore. I mean, I completely, man, it's a great point. Yeah. Kenny Moore, thanks for the super chat. We, you put our players in the NIU jerseys and them and ours does Notre Dame still lose? Yes. As long as the coaches are the same, if you, if you flip the coach, if you kept the coaching staff, flip the players, then Notre Dame loses by multiple touchdowns. I mean, the way that yeah, the way today went, I mean, the way that yeah, in a vacuum, the way today went, then yeah, Notre Dame loses by multiple touchdowns because the Northern Illinois coaches outcoach Notre Dame's coaches. And if they're out coaching Notre Dame's coaches with better players, and that started on Monday, bro, today, no 100% and look, no one that knows anything about football thinks that the Notre Dame roster isn't better than the Northern Illinois roster. Okay. And that's not even a stretch. Right. Right. So, you know, if you flip it and you give them the coaches, like, of course, yes, Notre Dame loses by a lot. If that's the case. You know, the difference and I already know, I can hear the former Notre Dame players already. Zora Stevenson said this as well. I talked to Coach Green this week about in preparation for the upcoming game, and they had two really good practices at the beginning of the weekend, then he said they had to back off. And I'm like, did she say that? Okay. No, no, she said that. Okay, Sean, I was told by somebody that was around the team that they did walk through is on Thursday. See, I didn't want, I didn't want to put that out there, but like, he let, let's just confirm it. Yeah. Zora Stevenson put it out there. This is what I'm saying. Like, why are you a lot who who is in the SID department? Like, yo, these are the types of things that cannot be said out of these meetings. Like, I need to be guidelines. Like you, you, you don't release this, you can't say that about 40 back. Like, it happens all the time. Like, we give you access, but it's certain things that you can't say. And the fact that she said that, it even, I was like, let up, I'm like, a lu hosting, lu host players will tell you, practice was worse. Yes. Faith in a, in a, you team that it was facing my, and you, and you knew it. What's wrong? You knew you got to be locked in. Yes. I mean, I was talking about this and they're like, oh, God, I mean, just you get asking them, well, was it true? Was, was coach really like this? And I mean, they, oh, God, yeah. Oh, man. It was miserable. The whole staff. We hated it. Well, it's not like that anymore. Well, maybe it should. Maybe it should. It's like you've been doing walkthroughs on a Thursday, like, come on, man, I'm going to be in there's no way you took this game. That serious is no, that's what I was referring to earlier. And I wasn't going to say it because I wanted to get it confirmed, but literally they just confirmed it on the broadcast. Yeah. She said on the broadcast, Irish for life, 99 thanks for the super chat on a good note. I say 20% of my insurance with Geico. We needed that. Appreciate that. And thanks for giving that back to us. He's like, seriously, where we're at, brother. 421 in. All right. Kevin Tracy. Thanks for the super chat. How would the transfer portal have impacted Notre Dame in 2016? How committed are the current players now in comparison? You guys rock. Thanks. Team still would have sucked. That was a coaching. It was bigger than the players at that point. Was Brian Ben Gorder going to get fired in the off season if they had to transfer portal? I got a team. What a suck. No matter what. I mean, they had Tran, it started Avery Sebastian at safety. You know, like that team want to suck no matter what. You don't like your defensive backs. I mean, your corner backs, call them audibles and stuff, Brian. That's a fricking joke. That team want to suck no matter what. That dude's going to the local gym to get workouts in because they couldn't work out at Notre Dame's campus. That team would have sucked no matter what. Oh, man. The new transfer guys in to go work out at Gold's Gym. Do they have a Gold's gym around here, Ben? I think so. Maybe they do. Yes. There you go. Planet fitness joke. No judgment zone. Yeah. How committed are the players now in comparison? I mean, look, I don't think I mean, I don't think any transfers today weren't committed. Riley Leonard didn't play crap like crap because he's not committed. You know, RJ Oben has been a disappointment so far as I don't think he's because he's not committed. I don't see like the me guys that are just doing their own thing. I just don't think this team as a whole is not, is not there whiskey, Fox trot 72. Thanks for the super chat. Seems like this loss pushes any extension talk to the end of his current agreements final year. Definitely puts it off for this year. Yeah. A contract extension is the furthest from anybody's thought process at the present. No. I mean, I'm sorry, but I'm sorry. No, but there's been a lot of talk about the defensive line. No one's uttered that coach's name, but I'll stay away from it. I think somebody put it in the chat earlier, but I think the same person was just trying to fire the entire staff. So they have been disappointing through two games. Yes. No doubt. No, I agree with that completely. Laura 84. Thanks for the super chat. I never will be a fan of undersized quicker linemen who need big boys up front like Georgia has. We got bullied up front today. My pushback will be you don't have smaller players and ask them to two gap and ask them to take on blocks. Right. You're going to get smaller, quicker players. Here's your thought, Trevor. How about you let them play quicker? Yeah. Well, blows my mind. Yeah. I mean, you were watching TV Trevor, like when I'm live at the game, I tend to watch skilled players, but when I would kind of try to go back, I'm like, why are they coming off the line and asking Donovan Heines to like, just lock on? How about, I mean, when did you ever see him try to penetrate? He's a 275 pound defensive tackle and they're asking him to play like he's Gabriel Rubio. You don't have Gabriel Rubio. Right. Stop asking him to play like that. And if you want something to play like that, put Armel fricking Mookam in the game. I mean, Trevor, I mean, you tell me, am I wrong here? My nose. No. No. You hit the nail on the head. I brought it up earlier. I was asking where Armel Mookam was. I was asking for a roll call for just making sure he was still a part of the team. And he was. I saw him on the sideline before they cut to a commercial, but we were told how good he looked. But I mean, like, again, if you're going to have undersized defensive lineman, don't ask them to play like big offensive lineman. That's the thing is haves. If you have smaller, quicker guys use them when the Broncos played the Packers in 97, they didn't ask him to play power football. They played zone. They used their quickness and size of their advantage. I don't understand this. So if you want to play that way, then start getting more reps for Armel Mookam. Start getting more reps for Sean Savilano. Start getting more reps for Devin Houston. Stop asking Devin high. And it's not even on Donovan Heines. You're asking him to do things you shouldn't be asking him to do. Laura 84. Thanks for another super chat. Did we even try to get cam ward? No. Jimmy Bage, thanks to the super chat eating 40 seconds rather than calling a timeout. When did that happen? That's a genuine ask at this point. I don't know when that happened. He made the decision and he had two time outs. Once again, he consulted whomever the analyst was in a sideline and instead it's calling the timeout, they let the clock run down and then eventually Northern Illinois power the timeout. Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah. It was, it was probably because I was calculating in my head. It would have been an extra, it definitely would have been an extra second. Gotcha. If he had called the timeout, I think he would have called a timeout with like 133, 132 or something like that. You run a play, another 40 seconds and they probably would have picked up maybe, but those two seconds would have mattered because now you have seven seconds, but you don't have the timeout though. Can I ask Sean? I'm going to ask this of Trevor and Vince, my fellow offensive guys here real quick. I've always been up to belief that I would rather lose my time outs and have more time as an offensive coach. Most people think that way. As opposed to losing a bunch of time and then having to, because I still feel, even if you have time out, you're still stressed, you're still pressed for time. Oh yeah. Like thoughts on that, especially now with the two minute warning, right thoughts on that Trevor, thoughts on that. I agree, especially in college when the clock stops after first downs inside of two minutes and you get the two minute warning, I would rather give myself more room for error. I guess you could say and burn your time outs because we saw it at the end of the game today. It was, you know, we're trying, Notre Dame is trying to drive down the field and there was, I mean, obviously to try to kick a 62 yard field goal to win it, but it was, everything was magnified, every incompletion was, you know, seven seconds off the clock. And when you have 19 seconds, it's a lot of time, a lot of time, I'd rather have more time on the clock, Vince. I would rather have more time on the clock as well. Obviously, everything was very rushed when they finally did get the ball back and there's things you can do to stop the clock. Didn't even use the fricking last time. Well, and that's the other thing. I mean, it's a moot point because he still has the time out in his pocket at home in bed right now. So it doesn't even matter. I hope he's still in the office. Anyway, McKay Rippy, thanks for the super chat. So how do they identify the root problem? I have to believe Marcus Freeman has already looked in the mirror, but he hasn't found the answer. Sean, that's kind of what you were saying earlier, right? Like, you can't identify is one thing being willing to make the change is another, right? That's the issue, but you can apologize to somebody saying, I'm sorry, it's never going to happen again. And if you turn around and do it again, I do wonder sometimes, Sean, if they did look in the mirror and say, you know, it really was the quarterback, but this year we'll get a more dual threat quarterback and it won't be and we'll be like, I've heard some things from some people where it is kind of like, well, you know, Sam heard us in this and I mean, I do wonder if they say, Hey, what we're trying to do here does work. We just need the right guy to do it. But then they get the right, the quote, unquote, right guy. And they're not letting him do like here's it. If you see a guy do something and you love what he does, and you say, let's go get him. And then you don't let him do it. It's like Vince, if I went out, if you went out and hired a chef to make, you went out to a battalion restaurant and had the best of time in your life and you're like, you know, I'm, I'm rich now and I want to have this person come cook meals for me. So the person comes on and say, okay, what would you like? And you're like, I'd like French food. Like, well, yeah, but I, I cook the Italian, but yeah, but I think you're a great cook. Yeah, I know. I'd like French food, but I'm going to tie in chef. I want French, you went out, got Riley Leonard, let him frickin be Riley Leonard. You went out, got Chris Mitchell, not because he's got great hair and he runs really good outcuts and hits routes. It's because he's frickin fast. Here's a thought. Let him play fast. You got a 200. You got a big, we keep it. Oh, right? He's a lot bigger than you think. Hey, here's a thought. Got you're my lover's drawing price. They're crashing the outside zone. They know how to play. You and our debates. They have teams to figure it out. They're all they're doing is own read. So I'm going to crash the end down and loop the line back around. Here's not run power power read, yes, and then they can shove that crap right up there. You know what's have answers. They're stopping this. Okay, what's your answer? I won't run that anymore. Okay, that's not an answer. There's answers to be had you don't you're not using them. You're not using this quarterback to his game. So of course, Riley Leonard's not playing as well as you'd like him to because they're not letting Riley Leonard do the things that frickin brought him here. The first place. So yeah, I do think that I do worry that there's a bit of a maybe they're not identifying all the problems. Some of them they are and they're fixing and we've praised him for that, but some of them clearly they're not because if they were identifying, identifying the offensive philosophy as to being the problem, then they would have fixed it and they won't still be doing the same thing. Maybe now they will. Maybe. All right. Zach McNamara. Thanks for the super chat. Guys. Huge fan. Thank you. I feel like we didn't have much pre snap motion like and I you did. I feel like that would have been a great strategy to open up the running past game. Seemed like a lot of past game came from empty. Hey, Vince, you and I were several practices. You remember how much motion we saw from them so much and we saw a lot of it last week. I saw like very little of that today. I saw a bunch last week. Right. That's what I'm saying. Like last week and then like this week is just static and some saying everything was static. Yeah. Going away from what worked. It's just kind of hard to do. If you don't practice as much Daniel Flagstad. Thanks for the super chat. D totally unprepared Leonard. Look loose. I think he meant lost. Okay. He looked lost. Reads were slow and throws were late. O line was confused and up and down as good as love is. He doesn't look to cut back on zone runs all coaching lot like good stuff there, man. I know one thing we talk about it during the game I was talking to left and he was like yo, his feet are too slow right now. Riley's. Yeah. He was like his feet are just too slow. You can see he's thinking too much. He's not. They're not letting them play. I'm so glad you said that because when you think too much, it slows your body down. Your mind goes so fast that your body slows down. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, wow, he was like, that's why he's late to get to stuff. He's just trying to figure it out and he's like, man, rush away too much. That's what I'm saying. Like sometimes, hey, look, guys, we're just going to drop back though, go ball. That's it. Oklahoma comes back, ties the game up, Everett had one read running a play action bomb to Chris Brown. That's your that's your read. Throw the dang ball far to Chris Brown, that's your read. Hey, we got both columns are Chris Mitchell matched up here to do just drop back and let her rip. We're just, we're going to line up here's what I did done on second and one. I don't mind pet. I'd have gone 12 personnel, I'd have lined up, I'd have motioned my second tight end over like I'm about to run something heavy and I'm throwing a straight up catcher and letter rip back go route to Chris Mitchell because there will be no safety help. No read, no read whatsoever. No thought process. Just throw a bomb that doesn't work. You run a ball and get a first down next play. Try it for Dobbs. Thanks for the super chat being exposed for who you are top down is better than getting fooled all season. We're about to learn a lot about Marcus Freeman in this entire operation. 100% bro, I'd have to learn a lot about this football team and rather be fooled all season and get a bunch of wins. But whatever, I think the point is you get to the postseason and you get to the postseason and you get slow again right I totally understand where he's coming from I was tonight I feel your pain bench yeah and you and see thanks for the super chat what do we have to play for this season first time catching a live struggling to feel excited going forward. So I bet the rest of the season to play for you have one loss I mean I look I don't want to be Mr. overly positive because at this point it's like I need to see this team every single week. I'm not thinking playoffs or anything like that but the reality is your actual reality is you have one loss that's the reality if you continue to only have one loss as you go week to week to week then you still have plenty to play for now it's a lot more precarious at this point whether you're going to be able to retain just that one loss but the reality as we sit here on September 7th is Notre Dame has one loss you know what we've flipped it if you told me before the season they would be one in one after two games my assumption would it be okay they lost a closed game at Texas A&M sure then get it done the offensive line had issues came back corrected things against Northern Illinois now we're moving forward. Sure like the eye doesn't fall but because of the order it's a totally different field right it would have been much easier to stomach losing that game last week but then recovering then it is to have a big win like that then to come back and have your team play the way they play today it is I totally understand why the fan base resides where they understand why they're right where they're at tonight I do I get it I get it and no matter where you sit you you're well within your right to be sitting right there sure hopefully after a day or two you can kind of come back down the earth and enjoy the rest of the season but I understand the emotions of why they're so hot tonight for sure and they should be I mean they should be high but look and again I'm not and I want to preface this statement with I'm not saying this is going to happen okay if Notre Dame goes 11 and 1 it doesn't matter what the one is they'll make the play off yeah people people are saying oh this lie you're right this is an awful awful terrible terrible terrible loss and nobody's saying that it's not okay and I am not saying that they're going to win the next 10 games I'm not saying that I'm saying if we're talking about a reality where they do and they're 11 and 1 they're in the playoff that's what I'm saying yes I'm not this is why I need to chat off but all I'm saying is an 11 and 1 Notre Dame team is in the playoff and to be honest with you they're probably hosting a game no if they go 11 and 1 they're hosting a game the problem is you may now be a 7 to 8 seed yeah I mean you're going to get to in round 2 oh I completely there's still there's you're gonna have to measure resumes at some point right I mean you're gonna have to compare people and you know when you start comparing losses it's gonna be like well Notre Dame lost to a 500 NIU team okay totally not good but I'm just saying an 11 and 1 team isn't out of the playoff that's the only point I'm making I'm not saying that's gonna happen bit bit of advice for people if you're looking for something a way to stay locked in stop looking at it and I'm being serious this is this is meant to be helpful advice stop looking at a big picture which is hard to do right we're just say okay yeah I want to see how this team responds and really try as best you can to live in the moment right because if you start thinking about the future the season it gets depressing it does folks I'm with you yes I'm I'm with you there's a huge missed opportunity today but if you're looking if you still want to support the team but you want to do in a way where you don't just get depressed thinking about say then just focus on Purdue take the mindset that the team has to take what are they going to do to get better how do they respond what we're gonna learn a lot about the character of this football team with how they play next Saturday right focus on that and I'm being serious like if you're still one hey I love Notre Dame I don't want to give up on Notre Dame but I'm just okay then just then to try to focus small see what kind of answers that we get and then how that game goes and we can focus on Miami, Ohio because if they come out and destroy Miami, Ohio in two weeks that's just as good of a team as NIU tells us that maybe they learn something a little bit you know hopefully so that that's that would be my advice for people that don't want to just bail on the team or bail on IB it's just one game at this point like right because I don't even want to be talking about playoffs and some right no I don't either I mean the way they played it at yeah y'all Purdue's not gonna lay down and produce most blood in the water folks I mean they're Ryan Walters looking for a program defining win and he's seeing say wounded Notre Dame team right now I'm just worried about beating Purdue I don't care about Louisville right now I don't care about Florida State right now I don't care about USC right now I care about can they beat Purdue and then if they show that they can bounce back from that then we can focus on okay we can we can figure that out if they start piling up some wins right now and you know Ryan Walters you already know he's playing man-to-man oh yeah and the team's gonna say I'm gonna make you beat me throw in the football oh yeah yes it seems that Notre Dame last year they actually had a quarterback that had a long history thrown in football because they just knew Notre Dame wasn't gonna do it right yep yep shy sandman thanks for the super chat it's hard for me to believe this coaching staff can't see reality is there some sort of argument with the NIL money that locks Freeman into making a quarterback switch Marcus Freeman thanks for changing the quarterback is gonna help his team be a better football team he'll do it there's nothing NIL wise no they started right and learned because they think he gives them the best chance for games yep you can agree or disagree with that but it's not because NIL the money's already been paid and Notre Dame didn't pay it somebody else is paying it it's not coming out of Marcus Freeman's pocket Jimmy Page thanks for the super chat how would you guys rate the creativity of calls scale of one to ten three yeah two hey Trevor's like three that hot can we give fractions is that a you can do whatever you want whatever you want man man and you know what's crazy it's very similar to like Ohio state game right they run the ball all just a big run he gets pulled out then all of a sudden I want to get cute like dude they're on the heels just run it down their throats closes thing out it's the same thing today like they're on their heels like you meant you haven't been thrown in deep all day like it's just why you didn't you now just in this in the it's weird like what you want your team to be known for is what you go away from when you need to do the most yes all right John a one thanks for the super chat I can't remember the last time the Notre Dame broadcast said and wide open for another name wide receiver target they said it's a day on well they said it's a day on the interception here it was like yo if you throw the ball out there he's going to come open I mean there look there were wide receivers open great house was open they didn't play great today right no one's saying that but but but they were yeah devere thanks for the super chat when Riley played Notre Dame last year Notre Dame fans had a very different take on him it's not on anyone player which is why it happens every year if Riley Leonard would have played today like he played against Notre Dame last year pretty much that game by 20 points yeah easy GFS thanks for the super chat I'm a believer that quarterbacks need to grow with a program especially Notre Dame with all the off field obligations these one year QB's I believe aren't prepared that's a fair take especially when you ask them to not play like not not to play the way that they play I think just history is shown that you can get a guy in his second year as a transfer quarterback it's a significant it's a significant jump in play oh 100 percent yeah I mean Joe burrow from 2018 to 2019 or two completely different quarterbacks Wow 100 percent saw that from Jay Daniels as well Jay Daniels yeah that's what's so brushing about Riley Leonard though because he's a different kind of quarterback sure you don't you know the mobility part the movement part that that trans it usually transitions pretty quicker look at look at Jalen Hertz yeah it was way better in his one year Oklahoma why because they used his legs yeah it was right built into everything that they did they would they would simplify the reads for him give him quicker reads early on to help him get flowing and then as he got more in the system than they'd open up things a little bit red bearded eagle thanks for the super chat okay guys I'm with you there is a system problem there's a deep rooted issue what are the answers in your opinions is this a beat around the bush way of saying a head coaching change is not at all none of us are saying that nope we're saying that a head you know what there is a head coaching change that is needed but it is the current head coach needs to make some changes it's not no name is go fire Marcus Freeman a week ago people were talking about he's gonna extension and he's this you know I'm worried about losing Ohio State now everybody wants him fired that's that's what that's what we do as fans right we're not saying that we're saying there's a problem here and he needs to fix it and if he doesn't this is going to continue to happen that will eventually lead to him no longer being the head football coach another day yeah that is not what we are saying I'm speaking for all of us because I know you guys and we've talked about it but sit there and blaming Marcus Freeman for what happened today and saying there's a problem that needs to get fixed that's not saying he needs to go or we're offering a reality of the situations and and saying it needs to get addressed and and I've said a million times Sean I know that you and Vince agree with me I don't know if you do Trevor it actually Vince you said it earlier firing a guy or replacing a guy is not always it's the easy go to it's not always the answer it's not always the answer Mac Brown could have fired Greg Davis instead he said hey Greg we need to change our offense Greg Davis when I learned some new offenses the next thing you know Texas is a national champion running an offense it looked nothing like what Greg Davis ran with Chris Simms a quarterback Michael Dallas Michael Dallas fan in DC one Campbell thank you Mrs. Driscoll that made my evening that was in relation to her comments on Tommy I'm I still can't believe she said hilarious Johnny one I'll be pessimistic then for me the season's over because this isn't a championship team it's all maintenance now how much can they fix I get the emotion do any guys I mean I think we all get the emotion but I mean guys but no he's not over I watch Ohio State lose by two touchdowns at home to a Virginia Tech team not much better than this team and they went out one a championship you guys remember that right they lost by two touchdowns with seven and six Virginia Tech team right I mean I'm actually gonna pull that up real quick but that was again with Braxton Miller's famous spin move wasn't it now that was the next year they went to be tech yeah yeah that was they started what's what's his name was the true freshman that game right cuz Braxton got injured yeah in fall can't that's right that's right well they just use a red shirt freshman I believe that's right I remember that but a week after beating Ohio State they went on they they that Virginia Tech team lost at home to East Carolina and a week after that they lost to Georgia Tech right so talk about thank God Ohio State didn't say seasons over spent everybody yeah there's a flaw on that team and they said we got to fix it and guess what they fixed it correct it goes to the coaching think about it they lose it started quarterback weeks before the first game it ain't going into the playoffs they lose JT Baird they won a championship if if everyone ever wants to say I'm a dude this proves I can coach is that season right there yeah but they weren't the same team in September I mean on November October November that they were in September I'm only talking about just playing well they made adjustments to this is who we got to be as a football team yeah Joshua Gaynor thanks for the super chat I don't think we need a quarterback change I think our defense didn't step up like we should have and we didn't have a run a screen on first down maybe I'm wrong on offense but I don't think we called the right plays fair fair fair it's it there's plenty of blame to go around I'll just say that that defense that's the point though this is the it's easy to say oh it's all right with Leonard's fault or nothing Riley Leonard play like crap today yeah everybody knows it so did some other people though right he's not the only reason that they lost this game there's a lot of people that you can put them you know Josh Phillips the overrated chance will be insufferable all week don't listen man like there's a wrap off but even you know what even when you turn it off are you still know what's happening and it's deserve that's okay yeah it's exactly got to eat it like right to say think about this I'm not not going to church tomorrow just because I know I'm about to hear it because I've brought this on myself you know no exactly add three thanks for the super chat great show tonight gents thank you Ed I know it's not easy doing this after a game like that preach yeah just in my thanks for the super chat at this point is eleven and one and making the playoff even enough I know it's a lot to ask and think about after today but would twelve plus two or three fix things sure probably yeah I mean I mean if it's like because here's the thing we said before the year they're going to go eleven and one I don't know who they're going to lose to I don't think it'll be one of the big three I don't know who it's going to be well now we know what was this the game and they're going to figure it out and fix things because again a week ago we're thinking boy this team can can do something based on what they did so it's all going to be about how they respond so yeah Triss and absolutely man and I think I met Triss in the other day at the grocery store by the way oh nice but real nice guy but yeah I mean that's where we're at though man I mean it's like does this be real their season only if they allow it to and only if they don't learn the lessons and make the changes people so Virginia Tech is not NIU yeah this NIU team might actually be better than that Virginia Tech team was was not a very good football team folks again a week after beating Ohio State by two touchdowns they lost to East Carolina East Carolina right that that that's not a real good football team and again we're also not saying this Ohio State team is that or this or anything is that Ohio State team we're not saying that either simply saying that just because you have a terrible loss in September does not mean your season is over with and thank goodness Ohio State didn't take them and tell the bench everybody we're going to go with the young guys and you know so today sucked yep still spinning that I think they're not going to quit they shouldn't quit neither should we as fans can't get pissed at the learning players for quitting when we do it Dylan Reagan thanks for the super chat why wouldn't uh MD make oh Mike Denver Rock thanks make the offense the way he wants it regardless of Marcus Freeman I thought Dembrok was going to have full control of the offense that's why I was so excited for him to come I can't make sense of this and you talk about this already we all have bosses we report to exactly exactly I get your frustration villain I do but I mean we all have bosses to report to and one thing about my Denver he's always been a good soldier full life thanks for the super chat just wanted to follow Ed and shout out the great show you're all awesome thanks full life appreciate you Ryan Brewer thanks for the super chat team played at the same intensity as the coaches what happened to Marcus Freeman fire from last week that's that's the whole point though I mean you you can't fake the intensity of that moment that and that's just that's why you got to really push guys and practice the events right like that's why you that's why Lou Holtz that's why Lou Holtz did what he did in practice before those games it was because he knew like what what to say Sean what was it the was it the Catholics first convicts or was it the I forget what the dot the show was where he said like and he didn't need to push us during Miami week mm-hmm I mean need that he knew he needed to push us the week that he thought we were going to overlook that football team because we're young kids that's the whole reason he did it it's because they're not going to be motivated by the opponent they got to be motivated by their by me and that's exactly why he did it and so yeah I mean moments like that you have a bunch of players that have a keep and fought in the preparation for that game or the lack thereof meaning we're good we're doing walkthroughs on Thursday or we're good we're ready and then you get punched in the mouth and now you're either looking to your leaders or your coaches to get things back in control say all right I know we sent you guys off but this is what we're about to do and I always point to Brian you know I thought this was the great Nick Saban prepared for Georgia an entire week Georgia went right down the field and scored he told his defensive coordinator scrap everything we worked on this week scrap it it's not going to work because guess what they prepared for us to and what we prepared all week it's not going to work we're gonna go too high make them throw underneath shut the rundown and double 19 that's it that's the game plan it's called it's called it's a justice one of the waiting title yes he saw it after the first drive everything we did this week not gonna work it's my job to get this right right now that's coaching that's coaching and when your coach comes into the game and in preparation like zone easy street you look at him as you walk into the half time that you could tell he was feeling like oh we got we got this so if it you know as it was reported he told his team to halftime this half is gonna tell us what we're made up what you got your ass you got your answer that's what you told that team in the locker room you found out what your team was made up and you prepared them to be that team you found out so now what are you gonna do about what are you gonna do about it right bam shy sandman thanks for the super chat did you guys see the analytics guy talking to freedom that was odd never seen it like that with the head coach it was weird I'm up to go back and look at that and we'll talk about that maybe tomorrow events was robbed it off thanks for the super chat I saw a zero juice today from the offense defense and special teams Apollo creed was more prepared in his first rocky fight than this team today go Irish you know you know what Apollo did that fight though he fought back yep gumbo and bodain thanks for the super chat there were plays you could see Leonard looking down the field and not pulling the trigger were the receivers not open or is he just not pulling the trigger the downfield calls were made then you and I were there would you agree with me that that was more on him yes we we've talked about this even the past two games you know he's just he's rushing his reads he just doesn't look comfortable whether that's a lack of trust in the offensive line I don't know what the reason of himself to throw this on the field it's a lack of confidence right now and unfortunately I've seen this from another quarterback recently at another time so couple Tristan I think you're referring to Buckner right I was actually referring to Hartman okay I was going to have a buckner and I was also going to talk about win bush he just lost the confidence was Billy thread football and and look book was afraid to throw it down field to yeah Hartman last year's another good example so I mean just line him up like it's a systemic problem all right anyway Tristan my thanks for the super chat seems like Freeman has put the handcuffs on the offense he wants to coach not to lose instead of coaching to win agree Ethan Kaufman thanks for the super chat it's mind-blowing Notre Dame has not had elite quarterback since Quinn and game-changing wide receivers is fuller or even Floyd there's a deeper university issue says nothing to do with the university agreed agreed it's a program issue yes but it's not a university issue m states 1987 thanks for the super chat I'll say it for you boys Gino needs to go it's gotta do but I'm we don't get a whole firing thing but he's got to do better yeah he's got to do better Marky Stewart the fire Marcus Freeman two games into this season is wild none of us in the show have done well Mark I appreciate that because you know you've been very critical and I appreciate that because I we all have been but to say that is very like well he's been critical kind of of us he thinks we should it's not Marcus Freeman's fault it's Riley Leonard's fault oh I see and so he's kind of pushing back on got there's people saying you should fire Marcus Freeman there's a lot of people saying that that that I don't think that's a good take not by Mark but people saying that yeah yeah got you we're not saying that none still preach it super chat thanks for the super chat I haven't ever seen a practice but how to to very senior experienced coordinators coach soft for a week of preparation I got no answers man I wish I did because we weren't we weren't there either and we don't know if would they coach soft like I don't know how to even respond I know that I know the team didn't play hard I don't know that they played soft they didn't play hard right you know and that's that's preparation correct decaf thanks for the super chat seeing what we've seen do you think this is why Andy Lugwood didn't want the job coaching with handcuffs that he loved doing one of the job he absolutely yeah he literally accepted the job which is when they found out about the buyout problem like Andy Lugwood absolutely one of the and then he backed out because it became like a this big the financial thing in a financial set he absolutely and it was just it was just a thing of like this is how you guys do things right pass don't let the Notre Dame spin tell you that he didn't want the job because that's what they did Eric Pruitt thanks for the super chat if Marcus Reiman keeps winning his way why would he change this playstyle one at Texas A&M but he's not winning winning some games isn't winning that's not how Notre Dame is evaluated because people care a whole lot more about getting your butt kicked by Northern Illinois than they do about you beating Texas because nobody cares that you beat Texas A&M last week nobody cares does anybody in this chat say well hey at least they beat A&M no nobody cares you lost to Northern Illinois guys and his style is not winning because last I checked Notre Dame wasn't in the playoff and didn't want a championship last year in there that's what winning means at Notre Dame so no it's not working they're beating teams for a lot of reasons and sometimes you know it's whatever that's not it that's not that's not that's not it right there Ethan Kaufman, Cam Williams let's play other top teams are playing freshman wide receivers and they are shining play the kid see what he can do he's like ninth on the depth chart right now like that's not okay not playing Cam Williams is not the problem that's all I'm saying I know we're already at that it's the receivers thing again I guess like that's not the problem yeah Jayde and Gray now start up to ball today okay how do you know that Cam Williams on the draw I have no idea I don't know right and to be honest with you he wouldn't even be the first freshman on the field so yeah I mean look I'm not against playing Cam Williams but used right I'm not gonna still got them to think stink a ball and you still got to call plays to get them down the field correct because I I'm not me you know I'm not sure how his hitch in a quick out cut game is right now right I'm being sarcastic by the way I know you are John A1 thanks to the super chat I feel like Obi-Wan looking at a burnt up Anakin Freeman crying and saying you were the chosen one you were supposed to win it all not lose to the Mac I feel you dude that is a great analogy that's awesome that is a great you were the chosen one that is a great analogy I can just see it I can I can actually see the movie in my head and then I'm inserting Marcus Freeman and we've met John A1 so we can see John A1's face too like you were the chosen one yes I know it's hilarious that's actually really funny I love it it's really funny KJ thanks for the super super chat if losing to NIU wasn't bad enough listening to Notre Dame lose with Jason Garrett announcing his nails on the chalkboard hey turn on the radio brother yeah listen to Tony and Ryan MTH thanks for the super chat scene there were several times when the play was still going and Notre Dame players on D were just jogging to the ball why the low effort guys I wish we had answers for that I really do have none I really do we don't that it was again it goes back to I don't I wasn't at practice but I don't have to be at practice to know that they didn't prepare right to play hard this game Notre Dame's wine and cheese did we only throw it deep twice one was dropped the other one was picked how did then brought go from LSU offense to whatever this is who can we beat now who can they beat literally every team on their skin yes and they'll still be favored to beat every team on the schedule most likely dependent well I shouldn't say that if they continue to lay eggs they're obviously not going to be favored to beat everybody but they have a better roster than every team left on the schedule the issues not talent correct and they can literally beat every team on their schedule Carson Jackson does Al Golden focus on better run D after his previous comments about not worrying to be a top run defense seems teams can run down Notre Dame's throat five yards a pop I think that's being a little bit misconstrued of what he was saying correct I mean they they did only give up 119 rushing yards last year but today they did not have a good game plan to stop the run I mean today you did see a little bit of a flaw in Al Golden's philosophy which is they're an elite passing team Northern passing defense Northern Illinois said we don't care because we're going to run it on you and Notre Dame didn't have answers Brian they weren't prepared to handle it go ahead yeah Trevor prime example of why complimentary football is so huge because Northern Illinois was never in a spot where they had to pass and you know what though it's funny is a couple times they were they made the place sure dirt and 12 after the hold made to play they only had 10 completions as a team today those are totally yards it was like apparently over 100 140 100 something like that yeah I know they had 190 some rushing yards um gosh I do not want to pull this box score back up sorry doing that to you man ah that's all right we're we're here for it anyways all righty I got you so they had total passing yards they had 198 to Notre Dame's 163 and rushing they had 190 to Notre Dame's 123 dominated time of possession by nine and a half minutes it really showing up that's perfect it's embarrassing man full life wasn't going to do another super chat so you all could go to bed but Brian started cooking sorry thanks I'm good insured by big thanks for the super chat cheers fellas it's never fun losing no jokes here but this is why I never get too high or too low week to week cheers it's probably better for your mental health as well I'm still glad Brian Kelly's not their coach it could be worse this is my my my favorite LSU fan truly y'all he's an LSU fan yeah good dude long he's signed up for the mess it means really good guy awesome yeah and that's a classy response because he LSU caught a lot from us last week but I'm still happy that that with that move we'll still wouldn't trade it rocket for Heisman thanks for the super chat appreciate you guys how did Riley win the Manning passing academy and make those throws or is this an align issue sorry I just got on this is why what you do in shorts and the t-shirt means nothing for sure for high school prospects and none of stuff means a dang thing so and we also one clip of him throwing at the Manning passing academy they got turned into something but there's a reason we didn't talk about that because it didn't mean anything yeah you know who looked really good throwing RBA me yeah I'm not playing for another day I was really good throwing when there was no pass rush or anything yeah yeah yeah you know chief Brody thanks the super chat devastated boys I'm with you brother yeah me too man me too insured by big with another super chat ran out of room previously go tiger there it is just all good he deserves he took a lot of stuff last week I'm joking hey and you know what the Tigers pulled it out tonight it was a little touch and go there for a minute but they did pull it out so yeah for them David Galito you've all said it tonight especially Brian this is a complete failure from the top down this is a pattern for the team under Marcus Freeman home opener really yeah ridiculous I love how you put the the tone into that one properly two vents I figured yeah Randall nor even uncle Rico would have hit Chris Mitchell on that post route dang wow dang Randall come up to fire Brandon Steyer maybe NIU wins the Mac and gets into the playoffs and it would still mean nothing it would still take nothing away from what this was an awful awful awful loss I don't care I beat the rest of their teams by 30 points and I make the playoff this is still a joke it's a joke ragnavald Kelly can't win big games Marcus Freeman plays down to opponents I mean yeah yeah your spot on can disagree with my friend and defend thanks for the super chat like can I just say this I wish that I could push back on some of you guys on some of these things I wish I could say you guys are wrong it was this it was just one game is I wish I could justify what happened today I really do it would make me feel better but there's there's there's you know yeah twisted viper I see thanks for the super chat always seems we play down to opponents yeah I mean they certainly did today Jimmy Page how would you rate loves run on the freak scale oh it's up it's high like it like one to ten it's like a nine and a half because when he left over that guy not only was he leaping over that guy but he leapt out of a tackle because a guy had him around the ankles so he leapt out of that tackle over another guy and didn't break stride normally when a guy jumps over another guy they like fall down it's like what was the point kind of a thing he didn't even break stride he's just you know yeah no it's it's very very high phenomenal great run great athleticism yes so I'll respond to this I'm convinced Ethan Kaufman thanks for the super chat maybe you should all coach you all have the answers and dismiss our comments wide receivers is a problem and Cam Williams playing would help a we've literally said tonight we don't have the answers to certain things number one um I did coach I have won a national championship so I think I know a little something about winning football second of all we didn't say receiver wasn't a problem but there's a reason Cam Williams isn't playing and what we said was is if you put him in you still need somebody to throw him the football but here's the thing just putting in a freshman receiver that's currently ninth on the depth chart doesn't fix what happened today if he would have been running the same route instead of Chris Mitchell does the ball not get picked off does Riley Leonard and maracas you make a better throw because Cam was not in there there was playing Cam Williams would have had zero impact on today's game and that's coming from someone who ranked him as a five star in things he's going to be special so Ethan I'm sorry you're in your feelings a little bit on this but the point is we're not dismissing your comment we're telling you that changes nothing nothing you're telling me that if Cam Williams would have played today that Notre Dame would have won the game today that Riley Leonard would have been a better passer you're telling me that right I love Cam Williams he struggled he wasn't sure of what he was doing he wasn't struggling he dropped balls in the practices we've seen you know he would have caught the ball Jane Greyhouse go I haven't seen that in practice I think Cam's gonna be special he needs time he's raw and the talent and receivers at the problem I was at the stadium Vince was at the stadium the receivers played great today no were they open plenty times yes first drive of the game I'm watching Jane Greyhouse wide open on a depot on an over route Riley misses him by four feet the leader ballway behind him you know what I'm talking about if anything that's an even worse throw of Cam Williams there because he's faster than Jane and he would have been even farther out of the way so like you we're not dismissing anything that doesn't have any impact on today's game it doesn't any impact on the fact your D line got pushed around it doesn't mean impact on the fact that you didn't call a very good game on either side of the ball it has nothing to do with that so like you want to you want me to tell you hey man it's a great idea play Cam Williams why why give me a reason why he's fast okay cool he is fast he's very talented I ranked him as a five star Sean you had him right here I have you changed your opinion of him no he meets time he's thinking about the game you can see what he's reading yes real he's thinking too much and not playing the way he's gonna be a great player at Notre Dame in my opinion I truly believe that that's not the answer so you can get mad and kind of you know throw your maybe you should all coach oh okay sure maybe maybe we should maybe we shouldn't it still doesn't change the answer yeah I mean like so I mean it just you want to have it you want to you want to give me a good reason why he should play other than just he's really talented yeah he's really talented no literally no one here's denied that but but so's Chris Mitchell they're not using him correctly so so so exactly so's Jayden Gray using him correctly so's Jayden I didn't do anything with Jayden Thomas today I have a lot of talented guys not using them so putting cam in there means you've got another receiver you're not using correctly and a guy that your quarterback's not throwing the ball to so but I appreciate super chat I'll take that Devere thanks for the super chat if you are Marcus Freeman what's your message to the team my bad is my bad this this one is on me you'll never have to worry about the same thing that Lou Holt said that Cotton Bowl 87 you never have to worry about a Notre Dame team being unprepared ever again this one is on me and they won an national championship that's the message it's on me 100% that's the only message and we're gonna fix it and you're either with what we're gonna do and you're about it or you can hit the port on go play somewhere else but this will never happen again and this is on me but understand that that means change are gonna happen and we're gonna do things differently 100% Sean best answer right there I'm sorry best answer the night right there if anything is that right there you only took us five hours to get to it thanks Sean if you'd have done it forever to go it might be a bed pass my bed time getting salty all right John Massey it's been years since a quarterback and throw progressions from book to now if first read isn't open they panic and run Kenny and Carr can do it I mean in theory I think that uh that kind of goes to what because Brian wasn't in when I asked you guys of course Brian do you think we underrated the jagasaw entry like if jagasaw plays these last two games do you think the offense is even incrementally better is it incrementally better yes would the result be right no because Riley didn't feel any better or more comfortable I mean I would say I'd have to question his mental toughness if that move right there is is the reason it feels better because I don't feel like Anthony Napa was the problem no I'm just saying you know in your mind as a quarterback sure a lot going on right sure it looks like he's trying to figure this out it looks like he's not trying to make a mistake I'm so he's worried about you know they're speeding up his clock right you know and passing situations you know I don't know what I'm really trying to be fair to you know man could that be the issue Sean sure the reason I'm not as willing to say yes is because that happened a month ago like if this would have happened a week before the opener I'd have been like mmm that that'll get you but this happened a month ago that happened a month ago yeah yeah it hurt the first week of fall camp right you've had plenty time to and if and if your quarterback's still not feeling good then there's things you need to do as a coach to fix that well or to help him feel comfortable you know and that's hey I'm trying I'm I'm trying to find reasons man I'm I'm with you man I'm with you man I'm with you man I'm trying I'm trying to throw things out there and you know like again if this wasn't so if this is if we'd only seen this right now with Riley Leonard we could say yeah maybe it's that but this again this is a same problem Sam Hartman struggled last year because he was worried about the left tackle you know what I mean you know it's all it's always something right that's the whole point it's like could that be the issue in this particular case maybe but it's always something you do you need to do a better job as a coaching staff to make sure that you get him past that mental hurdle if it is if it is that so I think he said it he said himself on the interception like man everything was wrong bad eyes bad feet bad boom yeah I'm like thank you you can't have that not in the fourth quarter like yeah go go Irish thanks for the super chat Osbury is going to be a dude we have to be able to throw the ball agreed and agreed yep Devere thanks for the super chat no question just one more for Sean's answer and the crew staying on tonight sucks but we ain't leaving go Irish this show especially the ones that are staying all the people that are leaving yeah that's fantastic yeah well it is what it is man Isaiah layman this five hour show has calmed me down go Irish we don't deserve Jay's love he's really good hey he doesn't suck he's really good he doesn't suck that's it words I've been waiting for babe but no I love the fact that everybody was here hanging with us and and uh you know again this is my this is my time and our time to just get it out and be with each other guys because this was not an easy day plain and simple this was not an easy day so appreciate y'all hanging out with us those of you who've been here for the entire duration you guys are the best IB nation is the best you guys are awesome really appreciate you really appreciate you so make sure you hit the like button the subscribe button the notification bell 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went what 31 to 31 14 something like that i went 30 to 13 yeah so we were right there we were right there got that one right got this one wrong got this one really wrong yeah i was just about just a bit outside of my 48 10 prediction so yeah i think i had 49 to 10 so it's always tell you do not bet based off the things we tell you no no no no no no but i if i would have said hey like you know if you're gonna pet one game do it on this one no i told like my dad said he's like he was saying about basset do not do never bet on a game with a 28 point spread and the other team doesn't suck like seriously it's just fair fair all right fella say for Trevor brian shawn and ryan we appreciate you guys hanging out with us we will talk to you next time on the irish breakdown podcast so so so so a king supers pharmacy care is making it easy to get vaccinated care is helping you stay protected from flu covid and rsv seasonal vaccines are available seven days a week with evening hours care is giving 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