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I have no problem because usually we try to tell people don't overreact, don't overreact to one game, don't roll. Ladies and gentlemen, it is what it is. This program, this head coach, right now, what they've shown you, that's who they are. And if you're going to be hyperbolic, don't blame me. If you want to ask for his firing, I don't blame you because I do. Marshall Stanford, Northern Illinois at home. It's unforgivable at Notre Dame. Unforgivable. You take that how you want to take it. I'm not wishing anyone lose their job. I'm just telling you the way I perceive things and the way the people at Notre Dame perceive their program. I'm telling you, I guarantee you in the suites under the tents where the MVP VIPs go after the games. This is not, this is not playing out well in conversations. I can tell you that. And so when you think about that, in every, this wasn't a total debacle. It reminds me of the end of the Marshall game. How many times do you see blown assignments? How many times do we have to see people giving up the leverage on the outside at the most critical times with a great defense as coaching as coaching. Double R you pointed out some things in our text thread as coaching the creativity. I said it. I've watched Northern Illinois last week. They still don't impress me because I'm basing them based upon what I know. Notre Dame has from a talent standpoint. I'm not impressed by Northern Illinois. But I said they would come into this game because of the eye candy and the different formations, they would get Notre Dame early and they would attack the linebackers. I knew that I knew they wouldn't chance Ethan Hampton throwing against that secondary. They weren't going to do that. They're going to run the ball, depend upon the offensive line, run the clock, short throws, and hope that Notre Dame makes mistakes. This is just like that March Madness tournament game where you have one dude that can go off and hit 9 to 10 threes. And he catches fire and you hope you stay close. They did the same thing. Thomas Hammack said it on the field. We had to play our very best. That you have a chance to win, but not only that, they had to hope that Notre Dame played absolutely the level football. And that's what they did. No one saw this coming. We said of Notre Dame played a C or even a B minus game. They would handle me when this game. They would handle it when this game. Man, they trumped this. They decided to go even lower than that. And it was a complete. I don't know if I want to say they were. We're prepared, because like I said, I thought Northern Illinois would get some plays early because of the offensive creativity and I knew they would target the young linebackers which if you watch the Texas A&M game Texas A&M has success in the passing game. Everybody's going to attack Notre Dame. That way, play action, motion. That's how they're going to attack them. They play man to man. That's the best way to go against it. And then if you don't drop back, if you don't just drop back and give them time to, you know, blitz you. What you do as a coaching staff is you negate what they want to do. You know, I'll go and wants to bring fire. They have to play man to man and Northern Illinois coaching staff did a masterful job of negating that the best they could and putting their team and their players in the best position to make plays and win the game. You know, Mr. Brown, Ontario Brown, yo, you might definitely got yourself a look in the league off this game. He already had, he already had draftable grades. So he really needed but yeah. Elevated himself today double heart. That is if he doesn't get hurt. It might have been worse. If he doesn't get hurt but the backup came in. I'm crazy. Look, I'm trying. I'm a changed man, guys. I'm a changed man. I'm not as fiery as I was last year for personal reasons. All right. So I'm, I'm keeping my cool. But I'm not about to sit here and try to feed the fan base a bunch of crack. I'm not about to do that. Right. I'm not about to put perfume on this. This pool. I'm not doing that. This is what it is. Ladies and gentlemen, you have every right to feel the way you feel today. Every right. And I am not here to tell you not to feel that way and to try to explain to you why you're wrong. You're absolutely right. From top to bottom. This is unacceptable. That's it. It's unacceptable. Sean, I love your analogy about the March Madness and the kid that catches fire and the whole thing. The sad part is that kid that caught fire didn't even play in the fourth quarter. You and you had a lead. You could have just shut them down. I think that's the part that irks me the most. They were getting beat up by this running back and the defensive line was getting, by the way, dominated by the Northern Illinois offensive line. They were getting pushed back on a regular basis. I don't know how many times I saw defensive lineman for Notre Dame five, six yards getting blown back off the ball. And then, you know, a dynamic running back has the ball and can do things with that when that happens. Shocker. There's a lot of running backs out there. They can do a lot of things when the defensive line is getting shoved back five, six yards at times. And that's exactly what happened. And it's just, there's no red. There's no redemption here. There's no redeeming quality to this game that I can come up with. But I digress. I'm going to hand it over to Trevor because Trevor, you canceled your evening plans and you are, by the way, the one positive thing I am going to say today and I meant to do this during the open. I apologize for forgetting. Big ups and congratulations to Trevor, you have now entered the land of the married people. And you are less than a week as a merit well yeah less than a week right as a married person and you are, you had plans with your newly wedded wife to go out tonight and you're like, I got stuff to say about the game that I just watched. I would have been no fun at dinner, but that way. That's where that's where we will start. Unfortunately, we are now already putting the stress of the marriage to the test, not actually, but for how, for how I've been essentially the last call it three and a half hours. Yeah, look, I've never sat here and had more questions internally about what has happened to this team from seven days ago. The most polar opposite team. I've never seen anything like it. In the Texas A&M game, we talked about it in the post game it felt like in crunch time when they had to make a play, they did. Right, it felt like whenever they needed to pick up a first down or whenever they needed to get that defensive stop they would. And it's almost like they looked at that script and said, Hey, here's a great idea let's do the exact opposite of that this week and see what happens. I don't understand. And it was everything from the top down to Sean's point. From the head coach down to probably whoever's refill in the water bottles on the sideline they all collectively is a unit decided to do something differently this week. At the start of the game, I knew it was going to be an interesting day. And I don't know if you caught this or if anybody else in the chat caught this. When Marcus Freeman was running out onto the field the sideline reporter, hold him aside. And mentioned that Riley Leonard didn't have the game that he wanted to last week. And he's looking for this week to open up the offense and show what his capabilities were to which Marcus Freeman's answer was he needs to just live within our offense. We don't need to take any unnecessary risks. We don't need to be quote throwing the ball down the field. We just have to execute and we'll get out of here with a win. The second that I heard that verbatim we can go back and look at the live broadcast. I knew that this was going to be an interesting game. The biggest questions that I have and I know we're going to dive into this is mostly on the offensive side of the ball defensively it was not great. But if we go back and watch the game the defense gave the offense multiple opportunities to score more than 14 points multiple. And unfortunately for them it's just going to be looked at under the light of what happened on that last series, which here's my question. Another one, third and two games on the line. Jaden Osbury was your best runstopper that game and he's not on the field. How does that happen? How does that happen? It's decisions like that that make me think what direction was this Saturday supposed to go in for the team and that and I can understand that to save my life. And, you know, I, John, I hear you about being a change man and not trying to be fired up and I'm trying to follow suit here man but goodness gracious it's, it's so tough you guys get it. We're all fans of the team despite wanting to provide analytical breakdowns of everything. You should have seen all the text messages that I've been sending out for the course of the last. You know, however many hours that this game was on talking about how this team is different. You know, this game is what it is. I think regardless of, you know, what happens over the next two and a half quarters Notre Dame is still going to win. Here we are. Over 13 people explaining what happened. So I'll leave it at that for now because I know we're going to dive in a significantly more later but that's where I'm at. I've never been more puzzled. I've never been more frustrated. This trumps for me and maybe it's just the reason. I've never been surprised. This Trump Stanford in 22. This trumps Marshall. I, this is. Oh, it's way worse than Marshall. It's way worse than Marshall. This one is a stumper. And that's why I mean because like if you're going to compare it, you're going to compare it to Marshall because they're both group of five schools at home and they're awful losses. But Marshall was year one under Marcus Freeman where you said like, okay, you know, transitional stuff. It's the first year, first year as a head coach, whatever. Year three with high expectations on the table. You welcome the Northern Illinois team at home. Which, when I was writing articles about, you know, what, what true freshmen and sophomores, I'd be excited to see in the fourth quarter because they'd be getting some reps hopefully in this game because it would be handling and done by the end of the third quarter. And I'll put it quite simply this way because we'll talk about players when we break it down offensively defensively and we'll talk about that a little bit more in depth. Guys, there's a problem here, right? Like at the end of the day, we can talk about bench this guy, bench that guy. I want to see this player. I want to see that player. There's a problem here. I mean, like point blank period, there is a problem here. And I think I wrote an article about this similarly at ABC Sports this week where maybe I should wait on this because this might be more of an offensive philosophy conversation. But regardless, as Trevor and Sean have stated, I know Vince has said in the past, and I think he may have said it earlier as well, we get paid to talk about this for a living, right? And to write about this for a living. But at the end of the day, I have been an Notre Dame fan my entire life. So trust me, the people that are frustrated in the chat, the true Notre Dame fans, not the trolls from other schools that are popping in the chat because they want to don't go in the Irish, right? I'm talking about like the true Notre Dame fans that watch every game, go to as many games as possible, watch, hope, dream, all those types of things. I am energized and invigorated by every single victory. Last week, I was on an emotional high. Oh, yeah. Every loss kills me, guys, right? Ultimately, these guys can vouch for what the text chat looks like when something doesn't go right in a Notre Dame football game that's sent from me, ultimately, right? So regardless of the player evaluation, and we'll get into that deeper of, you know, maybe this guy should not be in this role, maybe this guy should be playing this, maybe this guy shouldn't be playing this, whatever. We'll talk about that. At the end of the day, this sucks, right? And like that points blank to this conversation. Everybody out there that is so frustrated about what they just saw in this. What was the final 17, 16, 14, 16, 14, in this 16, 14 loss to Northern Illinois, be frustrated. You're allowed to throw something as long as you don't break it or hurt someone, right? But like, be frustrated. You're okay. Go get the punch and go get your boxing gloves out of the basement and hit the speed bag for a little bit. Like, do whatever the heck you need right now, because guys, I hear you, man. Trust me, I hear you. And I know some of you are trying to dunk on me on Twitter for certain takes I've had and it's all love at the end of the day, because I'm a Notre Dame fan. You all are Notre Dame fans. You're frustrated. I'm frustrated. Everybody's frustrated here. Let's bask in our frustration for a couple hours here because you guys are not alone. Unfortunately. Hey, Irish Breakdown listeners. It's Urban Meyer. This fall, the game changes. Join me. Heisman Trophy winner Mark Ingram and broadcaster Rob Stone as we bring you a new perspective on football and culture every week. We will be joined by the biggest name in sports and talk about everything inside and outside of the lines. Let us guide you through a new era of college football. Watch triple option on YouTube or listen on Apple podcast, Spotify or wherever you get podcasts. Hey, Irish Breakdown listeners. It's Matt Liner. I've got a podcast called Throwbacks with actor Jay Farah, where we'll be talking all things sports, but also so much more. We'll give you the behind the scenes stories from my days as the quarterback on an iconic college football team to Jerry's days as a star on an iconic TV series. So subscribe to throwbacks on YouTube, Apple podcast, Spotify or wherever you get podcasts. John, you look like you had something you wanted to, you wanted to say. No, I just realized that you guys said at the score of the same score at Stanford game, the exact thing for was it really? Yeah, I'm blocked it out and I'm sitting there like, this is incredible. Double R. Look, man. It's a problem. It's a problem. Just think about the current state of quarterback and who's playing in the current state of why they seem to recruit. Just you want to think about the office of help program. Look at those two things. Let's look at the possibility of losing a quarterback that you have committed. It's not trending in the right direction. And this is not help. This is definitely not helping. It's going to add to something else that was dead on the broadcast. I believe it was like beginning of the fourth court coming from a timeout. And I know kicks and gear. I'm shocked they even let this league out because usually when you talk to the offensive coordinator of the coach, it's just certain things that you get in those meetings that you just don't say in the broadcast. And what he literally says, talking about him, Brock, this week, he said, hey, he is who he is. He's a runner. And we're going to have to try and elevate him in the passing game. I was like this. What are we doing? What is this? We thought we were getting something different. We've had that. We had that with Ian book. We had that with Tyler Buckner. We had that. This, this is who you went and got and said this is going to be different and convinced the entire fan base. This is going to be different. Only to realize he's just a bigger version of what we had. And you know what I realized. This is what the head coach wants. Head coach doesn't really want somebody at a quarterback position that's advanced in the passing game because he doesn't want to open it up like that. You talk about offensive philosophy, Ryan, starting to feel regardless of who the OC is, it doesn't matter who the OC is. There's one common thread. There's one common thread. You're going to run the ball and then in the biggest moment, when you have a chance to go down, take time off the clock, start the game away with five minutes. It's just when you let him throw a D right down where you can just literally line up and wear them out. Yep. Running the clock down, put seven on the board, go home. And shoot to go kick a field goal. Go kick a field goal because look, Northern Illinois played their butts off. I'm not taking anything away from Northern Illinois. I'm sorry, they weren't scoring a touchdown. They clearly were in field goal range because they were just running it right down Notre Dame's throat, but they weren't going to score a touchdown. Go put a field goal on the board. Go up by four. And at least you got a little bit of breathing room because all you got to do is keep them out of the end zone. And yeah, you're right. That's when they decide to take a shot and it's under thrown by 10 yards. Like, it wasn't a bad read. He finally read something correctly and could not execute it. It was like, it was no 100 percent. But it was like completely agree with you. But if he, but if he puts it out over the defense, that the worst is incomplete. Right. I mean, holy cow, like that. That's going to be the easiest interception that that kids ever caught in his life. I mean, it went right to him. So in the whole time I'm thinking to myself, I didn't mean to cut you off, Sean. No. The whole time I'm thinking to myself, okay, thinking it back to last week, you know, right? They, at one point on the broadcast, because I had it on my iPad, obviously not listening to it. They put, you know, Riley Leonard's stats for on last week and then Riley Leonard's stats for this week. And it was like the middle of the fourth quarter or something like that. They're pretty similar to be perfectly on. They're pretty darn similar, right? So I'm thinking to myself, okay, last drive. I think it started with about seven minutes to go, something along those lines. Okay. We talked about this last week. Didn't have a good game, but when it mattered, he put on the cake. He put the team on his shoulders and he single handedly pretty much marched them down the field. A couple of nice throws to both Collins. You know, nice throw to Jake and Greathouse. Mixed in some quarterback runs, which by the way, were conspicuously missing after the first quarter, whatever. And that's what you get out of it. Like you had a couple of nice throws to Collins on that drive and then all of a sudden you're unleashing a bomb that just died. I mean, just absolutely died. He walks over to Marcus Freeman and Mark rightfully so. I don't even know if this is positive, but I'm telling you, Marcus Freeman told him the right thing. It's like, what are you doing? Why are you throwing that ball in that moment? Like, what are you doing? And they never really got the ball back because when they finally got the ball back, there was 30 seconds to go. And that was, you know, a poop show from word go, you know what I mean, it had one completion. So it was just awful. How does it, how does a team that you're way better than coming to your house and want it more than you? At the end of the day, that is a reflection of leadership first and foremost. It is. Like, call it what you want. This is, you have to look at Marcus Freeman, this coaching step and say, why did that team that had no business playing with you talent wise? Because if we really go roster to roster, break down the recruiting rankings, break down the overall resumes, break down the careers, whatever you want to break down, the older game was way better than them talent wise. And it wasn't even close. So at the end of the day, the issue was not talent. The issue was, you were not prepared. The issue was that you don't have an identity. The issue was that Northern Illinois came into your house and pumped you. They punched you right in the mouth. And you were just like, all right, it's okay. Talent will win in the end. Well, guess what? Talent didn't win in the end because it went the time mattered most when the biggest moments happened. Northern Illinois wanted it more than you. That last drive by Northern Illinois. Was that a talent thing? Ethan Hampton, recruiting that third, that fourth and whatever. Was that a talent thing? The running back, moving the pie over extra yards. Was that a talent thing? Hell no, man. They wanted it more than Notre Dame at the end of the day. And if you're Marcus Freeman, if you're the coaching step, if you're the administration, if you're a student, if you're an alumni, whatever, you have to look at that and be like, that is unacceptable. That can never happen. And it happened today. The decision at the end of the first half tells you everything. Tells you everything. Tells you everything. You got a chance to go down school before the end of the half. And you play for field road. You have a 50 yard line and you run up the middle. What are you doing? What are we doing? Running into the tunnel like it's okay. No, it's not okay. It's not okay. It's not because at that point, the floor of the game was the floor of the game. Right. You're already down, even if you score, unless you play flawless football, you're not getting rid of this team, because they're controlling the clock. They're controlling the tempo of the game. They're winning the trip. They're controlling meals. It's getting pushed four or five yards off the line of scrimmage consistently. This is your leader. Let's talk about it. Your leaders didn't play well today. Nope. So now, yeah, the people that question, that quarterback didn't succeed. I have no problem. What would you question in that? None at all. He's too calm for me, man. He's too in that moment when you come to the sideline, I'm throwing that interception to my band. Who else? Who forces your band? Throw the helmet, show some emotion, something. Which goes to your point. Who wants this? Right now, dude. You don't want you're not invested enough. You're not invested enough. Get the other guys. We can bring him in now. Oh, yeah. Well, tell me, Brian, that we've had the base. You don't think Steve and Jelly could have won this game today. Man, quarterback of the quarterback to the one in this game today. Sean, I think there's a fundamental issue about going back to all have to stop. Y'all have to stop. It was last year. We made excuse after excuse after excuse early in the season waiting for things to change. And eventually at that position, you have to believe what you see. I was at fall camp. Some of the easy throws that are being missed were missed and practices. And we just said, Oh, he's just coming back. Oh, it's just it's just a third practice. Oh, it's just a fifth. No. That's him. That's his inaccuracy. I'll say it. If nobody else wants to say it, there was that fall camp. I saw it. And I don't have a problem speaking to it. The other people said, man, Brian, you can't miss that. You can miss that easy throw and say it more than once. And that's what's showing up in the game. So, no, you're not going to fool me. I tried to play the nice guy. I tried to look above and beyond it and say, well, he's just coming back. Give him time. And maybe he's going to be a big boy at this point. And maybe he grows, maybe it's used to the offense or whatever they're trying to work him into right now from what we said on TV and from what I see, I feel like Mike Denbrock feels like he has the baby. And I don't I don't like that approach because I think it puts everybody else. You have wide receivers that you feel like can make play. Mr. Evans was a, you know, maybe he's not healthy, but no, how many talkers that we have seen to the tight ends down a little bit. Was it like two today? And everybody seems to be playing too high safety against them. And we're not attacking the middle of the field with the tight ends. I look here. Sean, I respect the opinion. And again, you feel the way you feel, brother, you know what it is right. This is my thing though. Last year, Notre Dame got a kid who was a top five productive quarterback in college football history. And he lost his mojo at Notre Dame, a guy that was both applauded and ridiculed for his aggressiveness forgot how to be aggressive at Notre Dame last year. And then Riley Leonard, who is a physically talented player, comes to Notre Dame and he looks awful today. Terrible. Disgusting. You just brought in an offensive coordinator who helped lead a Heisman Trophy winning campaign for Jayden Daniels, the highest scoring offense in college football, and somehow the offense is worse. I think there's a bigger fundamental issue than the quarterback. I do. Was Riley Leonard bad today? Absolutely. Absolutely. No one will argue against it and I certainly will not. But do I think there's a bigger issue that is hindering the offense and is hindering this team overall. I absolutely do. I'm not willing to just blame the quarterback. The quarterback will have his blame, but there is a bigger issue than the quarterback in my opinion. And the quarterback will argue against it. I don't know who the offense will be. You know, I don't know who the offense will be, but I don't know who the offense will be, but I don't know who the offense will be, but I don't know who the offense will be. You have to tell me. You have to tell me. I'm with you. I'm just telling you what I'm seeing in the game. I saw. I thought this is not all just the Texas A&M defense. Oh, it no. This is this. Yeah. Yeah. And the chances of it getting better. I don't know. I can't place a percentage on that. I can't. I can't. So it has it made him worse. I think the situation made him worse. None of us have played quarterback. Man, I do a show with a guy does quarterback that said you flat out and not ask a guy to come in in the first year. Give him only 40% of the reps after he's missed the spring and expect him to be able to be ready to play. He said it's not going to work. That's fair. It's not going to work. Again, we're playing this, you know, quarterback competition. No, if he's a dude, he's a dude. Give him 70, 80% of the snaps and let him roll. Let him roll. They were doing the same thing last spring before Tyler Buckner decided to depart. You know what else we heard. Tyler Buckner was the one that had the offense that knew the offense. That's what they said last spring. That's what the previous transfer quarterback said to the media. I'm learning the offense from Tyler Buck. Matter of fact, the OC stood before the media in the spring is in. Yeah, I'm leaning on Tyler Buck. Show me the offense. And now Steve Angeli is the one who the OC comes out and says, yeah, he knows the offense. He, he knows it all. We love him for that. And now we see another transfer quarterback on the field. It is a bar. We're on the same page. We're talking about the same thing, which is adding more information to the file. Well, let's get. Let's give it to Trevor to this. Have we seen a mugged in Brock offense to first two games guys? Let's be honest with ourselves. Ask ourselves why we haven't seen that. No, look, look, if you're if you're going to be, because like, okay, we're comparing offenses. I think Sean, you said, you know, this offense has gotten worse this year than last year. So I want to, I want to point this out. Okay, because all we heard last year was how bad. Jared Parker was right. He's, he's, he's not the guy to lead this team to a championship as an offensive coordinator and all that. And maybe people are right about that. But I also want people to understand what he did as an offensive coordinator against teams like this. Okay, teams at home that you should throttle. Okay. 56 points. 41 points. I'm not even gonna count USC. Okay. It was terrible. 58 points. Right. Wake forest. 45 points. Okay. Stanford. 56 points. Points weren't a problem against the crappy teams. And that was the argument. The argument was they put up points against the garbage teams, but they can't score against the good teams. Right. That was the argument. That's why Jared Parker left. Okay. I mean, yeah, he got a head coaching job, but you know, he wasn't the guy to win a championship with. Well, as of right now, this offense can't score against the crappy teams either. And look, all due respect to Northern Illinois, they played their asses off. They played pretty much a perfect game. And they did. And Notre Dame didn't. You know, you can look at penalties. You can look at execution. You can look at being out leverage. We're gonna talk about all that, obviously. But Notre Dame didn't put up points. They had two drives that had points at the end of it. The first one and the second to last one. And that's it. Northern Illinois scored on their first three drives of the game. You know, bottom line is, and we've said it before, you can't win if you can't score. Period. And you're certainly not going to win championships if you can't put up big points. And right now, this team is averaging what about 20 points a game. A little less. I think it's in the teens, actually. It's got to be. Yeah. Right. So. It's not good enough. And this is not. This is not a Mike Dembrock offense that I saw Cincinnati that I saw at LSU. I'm not even going to say that it was a Mike Dembrock offense when he was at Notre Dame because, you know, Brian Kelly was part of it. And the whole, I'm not. We'll just, we'll just X that out. Right. When he was the actual OC at Cincinnati and LSU is night and day. What we're seeing here. Let me, let me ask one question before we go double our honest. Do it. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. I love it. Oh, I love it, dude. Yeah. Did we underestimate everybody forever? Did we underestimate. The jagasau injury. I mean, I mean, I mean, did we underestimate it? I feel like we talked about it for weeks. After that, you know what I mean, like the importance you mean. Yeah. I don't know when I'm watching. I'm, I'm, I'm praying that the kid could just hold up. Sure. Every, every pass. Sure. I wasn't going to be feeling that way. Charles jagasau was left. I was so does that affect the game plan? You know, they definitely said it affected the game plan versus Texas A&M, right? You know, Riley can say he has confidence in them, but does it impact him, does it speed him up. That's why it's asked because I'm trying to be fair as much as I have these emotions on the same side, I want to be fair. They say, you know what? Maybe the jagasau injury was a little bit more than we thought, not that it can't be overcome, because I think the kids, both the kids on the left side still have really good snaps. And then they have some snaps, but that's right Joe off his first game and a half had some really good and he has some snaps. You're like, though, you know, he'll continue to grow, both of them will continue to grow. But it was, I thought it would just be interesting to ask like, you know, yeah, with the office of production have been more, you feel like the office production would have been impacted in both games, if he has started. He had left tackle, because as much as you say, well, he only started one game. Yeah, but I mean, he clearly beat out the two veterans. Sure. Clearly have been viewed as maybe the best lineman on on that line. So, that's, did we underestimate us, underestimate how good he could have been, how impactful he could have been to a lot of different things office. You know, I just wonder about it. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean, my, my impulse is like, would Charles Jagasau have helped the answers, like, yes, obviously right I mean he's a very talented player and I think that he could have been. Maybe Notre Dame's best offensive lineman this year, if he developed properly, I think that that's that but Sean I mean again, I guess I'm always just kind of coming back to. But even if Charles Jagasau is there, I still think there's something bigger here than just personnel. Right. We're in the same file, we have the same file, you can put head coach in there, you put Riley Leonard in there, you can put a bit said about this is not the OC's office same thing last year. This is your park is off. We're putting the same information in the same file. It all goes in together for you to come up with the conclusion of what the problem is. And there's no secret that everything trumpet said it from top to bottom. This was an exposure top to bottom. I was wrong, we had the excuse. Oh, it was the quarterback room. Okay. Two straight years you said you were going to solve that. Nothing's changed. You went to the portal, we didn't have wide receivers last year. There was redundancy in the room. We wouldn't change that. That's my main talking point. Are we going into offense specifically now Vince, or are we just going in? We can. I do want to say at this point, because, you know, it is when we're having a show, it is difficult to moderate the chat and talk and, you know, have a good conversation where you're listening to the person that it's speaking so that you can respond intelligently and moderate a chat with 1500 people in it. So, I'm going to do a better job of attempting to moderate the chat, but please people. You are allowed to be upset. You are allowed to be in your fields about this game. We certainly are. If you've been listening for the last 38 minutes, have no problem with that. But can we please keep it civil? Can we stop swearing? Can we stop name calling? Can we stop being, you know, what somebody said racist? I don't know what the racist comment was. Doesn't matter. Guys, come on. Please be civil in the chat. Be upset. Be mad. We clearly are upset. But we're not name calling, and we're not doing all the things that are happening in the chat right now. Okay, so this is the fair warning to everybody. I'm starting to pancake it, right? People are leaving. I'm getting them out. And it's going to start with the timeout. Then it's going to start with a boot. Okay, so people, I'm going to need you to settle down a little bit. All right. Now, in the meantime, if you are enjoying this, keep it respectful. You know, hit that like button, the subscribe button, the notification bell, all that fun stuff. And we'd really appreciate it because look, we're here all season, guys, regardless of the way this thing turns out, you're still going to see our smiling faces after every single game. 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