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And it's like, it's a short week, but yet by the time you get to Wednesday, it doesn't feel like it's a short week. I don't know. It's just, it's a weird, you know, Labor Day weekend or Labor Day week, I guess, the following week is always just weird. Like we, I think part of it was, you know, the anticipation of week one and everything that goes with it. And I'm not saying there's a letdown, but now we're, you know, preparing for Northern Illinois. And I was thinking, it is kind of, you know, it's like, with all that building, you know, waiting, waiting for Texas A&M. It's like, boom, we're in the middle of week two, right? I know. You know, that is kind of like, yep. But it's search flying by, you know, home game, home game atmosphere. I am excited to get a look at the New Jersey's and how they, you know, listen in the sun and all those different things, you know, but, you know, I always love a home game weekend regardless of who they're playing, you know, but, yeah, so we'll see how it goes. First home game weekend, always, you know, getting back kind of the routine again back in the old confines. It's supposed to be like football weather too. Yeah. It's about 60 degrees. Like, I can get on board with that, man. It's been a little chillier this week already. Like I looked out my door this morning. There was fog. I know, right? Outside. It's low eighties and then it's going to get a little hotter tomorrow and then that cold front moves in and it's going to dip hard. Like it's going to be a jeans and hoodie day at Friday night football. So I'm excited about that. I love it. I love it. Already time. All right. Well, again, mail back night. So bring them on. Let's go. We've got a lot of salty questions queued up and ready to go. Let's just start with this one. All right. Which line coach achieved the most with his group given the circumstances Saturday? Joe Rudolph, Al Washington. So just based on Saturday, I've got to give the nod to Joe Rudolph. I mean, he's the one that had all the unproven guys and it was far from perfect. Don't get me wrong, but there was nothing that happened that was catastrophic, right? That turned the tide of the game or, you know, anything like that. And while Riley Leonard is absolutely part of the equation, there were no sacks given up, right? I mean, it was too many negative plays and he was seven negative plays. That's too many, but no sacks, no, you know, allowable fumbles or, you know, anything like that. And to be honest with you, defensive line played well, but not as disruptive as I was hoping that they would be. So they didn't quite live up to my expectations. It's funny. You said that. And I agree with everything. I think it's Al Washington, given the fact like, think about the veterans that you had on the defensive line versus nothing basically on the offensive line. But what you were saying about the defensive line and the disruptive moves, it was almost like, remember, like early last year, there were a few games where we kept going, man, what's, you know, like this defensive line, it's like, it's, it's playing okay, but it's, it doesn't seem like it's that disruptive. Yeah. But like there was a point where they just finally just unleashed them and kind of let them go. And I was saying last night that it felt a little bit like they were, like they were almost there to occupy Texas A&M offensive line bodies and just let the linebackers do the work. That's kind of like looking back on it, especially that's kind of the feel that I got just watching what they were doing. That's not to say they were never disruptive or anything, but right. It just felt like it was more of that than true, just them attacking and that kind of stuff. But maybe they were. I wonder if that was. I did hear Al Golden say, I did, I did see Al Golden say in the transcript that I got, you know, that they were very conscious of making sure they weren't going to allow explosive place and stuff like that. That could have played into it. I don't know. Okay. Fair enough. I was, of course, you don't want explosive plays and I wouldn't even stress about that. If you're a defensive coach at Notre Dame, because I don't think that's going to happen very often, either by design or just because these guys are so good. I agree with you that that's the way it played out on the defensive line. I don't know if that was the goal. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I played well. It just, that's just, you know, the impression that I got. Yeah. Yeah. No, I totally, totally agree with you. That was the end game. That's what ended up happening. And it was fine. It worked out fine. I mean, it allowed the linebackers to kind of do their thing and it put, you know, the secondary on an island at times, but they're good enough to do that. So I'm cool with it. You know what I mean? So I still want the defensive line to be more disruptive as you move forward in the season and they're going to have to be more disruptive once you get to the post season, right? It was good enough to win this game. I mean, look, Texas A&M outside of the one drive and it's a bit of an anomaly. They never really threatened all the way, you know what I mean? And so it was good enough. I mean, it was good enough. I just, I'm picking man, I want it to be better. Salty says we need to look into testosterone supplements because we need more staying power. You know, I have tried some of these kind of herbal based, and I'm a little older than you and I've tried some of this stuff and it just none of it, none of it short of, you know, I think like, like true, you know, testosterone replacement therapy, you know, I don't, I think that that's probably the only thing that would help me if I'm looking for that. I do. I don't know. I'm, I'm, I'm that guy who's very just, I don't know, I don't, I'm not a big supplement guy. My son is the complete opposite, it's like he's got a pharmacy upstairs, but I'm just very skeptical of all of it. You know what I mean? Look, I love science. I think science is legit. But I don't know. I'm very skeptical. I got plenty of testosterone. I'm good. I'm, I'm plenty good. Well, just, you know, you keep getting a little over fine as you know, like when I had my last, like, you know, went to the, to, you know, do my annual checkup, you know, physical and all that kind of stuff, you know, they do the blood test and everything. And mine is like, it's still within what they consider normal range, but it's getting on the, the verge of the low range. I mean, you know, I was going to say it. The older you get, the more it happens. But I'll let the priest do my talking for me. Nothing to prove. He's been, he's got five kids. He's got nothing left to prove. I'm just saying. It's not a lie. There was one that I was looking for here that, that special one, where did it go? I have done no starring. Oh, here it is. Sorry. Okay. Here it is. I posted the, the snap counts for all the players, the, the, the PFF pro football focus snap counts. Um, the other day on the boards and everybody loves the snap counts. So I might have to start doing something every week with the snap counts, basically, you know, kind of do that, but, um, which offensive and defensive players do you think get more snaps against NIU? Here's, here's kind of, there were 73 defensive snaps, Xavier Watts was the only player to play all 73. Benjamin Morrison had 67, Schuller 60, Clark 59, Gray 49, a defensive lineman, Cross 51, Batello 48, Mills 41, linebacker, Kaiser 57, Snead 31, Bowen 30, KV8 21, Osbury 17, offensive lineman, and Riley Leonard played all 67 possible snaps. I think the biggest thing that stood out to me, Bo Collins, 59 snaps out of 67, far and away, the most, you know, not Riley Leonard or a lineman, Gray House 48, Mitchell 32, Thomas 23, uh, love 30 for the running backs, price 24 for 13, and then Flanagan 43 for the tight ends, reared in 24 Evans 10. So that's just kind of a, a little snapshot there. I could probably share the screen. If you wanted to look at it. Do you want to look at it? So you can do it. At least see it. Okay. Yeah. Because I've got some thoughts, but I do want to, I was trying to keep your eye on it. Yeah. I was keeping track, but, so I don't know if it's going to change my answer, but I like the question. I do. Yeah. Because I've actually been thinking about this because it is, it's going to look different this week just because you're taking on a different kind of opponent, right? So can you see that? Okay. Do I need? Yeah. No, I can see it perfectly. I went the, I went full screen over here. Okay. So we're good to go. But yeah, you know, for me, offensively, I still think that the offensive line, even when they pull Leonard, which is inevitable in this game, I think, I think that they allow in jelly or whoever they put in second, which would be in jelly, I think they're going to let him operate with the first team offensive line. I just think that they need as many reps together as you possibly can get. And because they'll be out there with the first team. And I think they should be out there with the second team skill guys as well. I think, you know, name, name an offensive lineman, right? I think all five of those guys will either be in together or out together. So I think the offensive line will have the most offensively and then defensively, defensively, I'm actually going to go with, because I think a very similar thing, I think will happen on the defensive side of the ball. I think they'll, they'll pull some of the veterans first. And so I'm going to go Drake Bowen. I think he gets the most because I think he'll be into the ones, right? But then he'll collect some of those Kaiser snaps when Kaiser comes out. You know what I mean? Like, I think Kaiser would sit first, but I think Bowen, maybe some of the young guys continue to rotate. And so since he had as many, you know, nine more than KVA at the time, I'll go, I'll go Drake Bowen. I think he'll have the most. I think that makes a lot of sense. I do, you know, like I wonder, I think that that's probably a good rationale to look at it that way, because like even like, you're not going to keep Xavier Watson there any longer than you have. You're not going to keep Howard Cross or Riley Mills in there. It could be Shuler to the same rationale, right? Yeah. But I think they have a lot of faith in their next group of safeties that I think they would want to get them the time. I think that's where I'm going to go with Shuler actually because of that, because if what's comes off, I think that you get, you want to keep getting Shuler as many reps as possible. You know, maybe it ends up being like talent, you know, like even if he's playing next to him or that, or you might even just, you know, Rod Hurd didn't play as much true safety last week. They kind of moved him in some difference, but like they basically had him playing as a linebacker, you know, a couple of different times, you know, like covering the middle of the field, but they had Shuler there as well. I just think the lineman are going to end up with the most snaps. If you ask me skill position, I would probably go, see it's, I wonder, I wonder how they're going to use the receivers because we know that we're going to see some younger guys and there's a specific question about that. I'll just go with, with the lineman and say that, I'll say Thomas, I'll say Jayden Thomas ends up with the most of the skill guys. This is a good one. This is a good one because Faison's going to be out already, right? And I think they'll sit great house. He doesn't need extra reps, you know what I mean? And so yeah, I could see Jayden Thomas being that guy, although he's, he does qualify as a veteran though. You know what I mean? Right. 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And so you can play four games without burning your red shirt. And so I think that he could definitely be. This is definitely a game where you could see him and I would not be surprised if that was the case. Yeah, I think that like the fourth quarter, if the game goes the way that we think it's going to go, that you're going to see a lot of those guys, you know, you're basically going to see all the guys who are not on the three deep, basically getting some opportunities. What they do at the quarterbacks, that's going to be a good question because I've already seen people I want to see Angeli and Mincey and other people. I want to see Carr too. Well, I don't know if you're going to see every quarterback, yes, that's right. I mean, unless this is just an absolute slaughterhouse, which it could be. I mean, it's definitely possible getting four quarterbacks and is going to be complicated. I'd just say that, yes. I can curve with that, for sure. Mark wants to know if we're surprised how popular Jason Kelsey has become post retirement podcast commercial endorsements, NFL TV gig. I mean, he is everywhere right now. I don't know what's like because you've got the streaming services, but the channels I watch, which is a lot of NFL network, especially this week because I don't get any ESPN channels right now because they're in a dispute with direct TV. So I'm going to drop them, maybe ESPN's. But I'm a little bit, but like that whole thing blew up. Like even my wife started listening to that Kelsey podcast last year, you know, after the, you know, the whole Taylor Swift involvement and all that kind of stuff. I mean, that's, I think it's, I think that, I think that Jason Kelsey's wife is, is probably the one who's the most disappointed about his retirement because I felt like she was getting a lot more attention as well. And she just kind of. Go away. I'm not a fan. All right. No, I'm not. I will say that he is getting the residual effects of his brother's relationship. There's no doubt about that, but he's also a big personality. I mean, he's, he's Pat McAfee, right? That was still playing. And when he would go to his brother's games and he's got his shirt off and he's doing a chugging beer familiar, like, I mean, that apparently is what draws eyeballs right now. And look, Jason Kelly's a smart Kelsey is a smart guy. I mean, I've heard him do some analysis work and talk about the game. He can absolutely talk about the game. You know what I mean? And so you add the personality pieces to it and, and just he's kind of, you know, he's every man, right, he's every guy's man wants to go out and tailgate with everybody and all that stuff. It's, it's, it is more. It's a combination to me of the Pat McAfee effect and the Jason Kelsey Taylor Swift effect. He is benefiting from all of that interesting, interesting. He's done a lot of commercials everywhere and they just got out. They signed a huge contract for that podcast a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, they really multi millions to do that thing. Where's our multi millions? I know. Like, why don't we have an NFL player attached to us? I mean, there's another, I mean, why don't we have Taylor Swift, Swift out, Pippa. There's another NFL, there's an NFL player attached to another Notre Dame podcast. I don't think they're making millions. So apparently you got to find the right one. Former NFL player? I don't know. I thought he played in the NFL. I don't know which one you're talking about. So I want to bring up people that are competitors. Okay. All right. Fair enough. Joe says if you're from Philly, you're not surprised at all. I mean, he is an offensive lineman. It's, you know, it's pretty rare that an offensive lineman. That's true. This kind of, but I mean, even before this whole, I mean, he was doing the Christmas album and he was doing all this other stuff. So I mean, he's kind of always been out there, you know, just more regionally than nationally and then, you know, before the last, before the last couple of years, the main thing I remember them for is when they won the Super Bowl and they did the parade, he wore like the, I don't even know what they call it, or something. Yeah. Yeah. Like the teeny hat or whatever. And he gave the crazy speech up there. Yeah. On C, you know, and like he was, he obviously has a big personality. I mean, that's what I remember the most, but like, I mean, you're talking about two brothers who are probably both going to end up in the Hall of Fame when it's all said and it doesn't hurt that they're both really good players. Right? I mean, that doesn't hurt any of this because they both go to the postseason and, you know, all of that. So yeah, that doesn't hurt. DK wants to know, is someone who only roots for one player, a bad fan? Let's choose one receivers as an example. If this guy only pulls for one guy versus the room, isn't that poor behavior and a bad fan, someone to be aware of? I wonder who we could be talking about here. I feel like this is a direct shot at somebody and I don't know that I want to go in the middle of that. Someone who likes me. That's maybe. Yeah. I don't know that I want to be in the middle of that whole situation, but, you know, you can have a favorite player. That's totally fine, but you better be rooting for everybody else too. Right. That's my, that's my take on that situation. And I think in this particular case, that is the case, right? I think, I think this particular human does root for the whole team and the whole room, but unabashedly enjoys one player. Joe says, do we see menshee or car on Saturday case in point? Here we go. In other words, is this game in the bag by the third? Should be. I'm not going to predict that it will be, but it should be. And if that's the case, then you're going to see backups in the fourth quarter. Now, are there going to be enough possessions to get all of those guys in? It's going to be a little bit tougher, obviously. So I would say, no, you're not, you might, you might see menshee, but I don't think you're going to see car. Because I think like still the fourth guy. Yeah. I mean, we got to see a little of menshee last year because, you know, there were a couple of different times where Angeli got to come and Angeli started the second half against Tennessee State and that gave menshee a late opportunity to get a few snaps in there. I don't see it being that out of hand by half time. I mean, one of the questions I have about this game is just how dialed in is this team going to be after that big environment and everything else last week. I know like Jalen's need was saying the right stuff yesterday. So I mean, we'll we'll see with that Marcus Freeman and where this program is going and where it's, you know, wants to be and all those different things. I mean, we are going to see another quarterback out there who's only started five career games for Northern Illinois. He's been around for this is his fifth year. It's either his fourth or his fifth, but his career started in 2021. So one, two, three, four. So it's his fifth year. So he's been around. It's only his fifth start. If Notre Dame takes care of business, I guarantee we see and jelly. I just I don't know what they're going to do with those other guys. I don't think they just want to roll a bunch of guys, you know, like a quarterback position specifically, you want to give whoever the number two guy is some quality snaps. As you said, letting play behind the first team offensive line for a while and in those kind of things. They play with some of the first team guys before they start to transition, you know, with some of the other guys coming off the bench and stuff like that. So I just, I don't know about Minchi, like I would say decent chance for Minchi. But again, it could end up being like last year where it's just like a drive at the end of the game and that kind of thing. Yeah. It just depends on what plan they have. If that's, you know, what they want to do, if you know what I mean, like, I don't like it just depends on what they want to do. And if they want to get the third guy in, they'll get the third guy in. You know, if they want to get all four guys in, then they'll get all four guys in. It just, it just really depends on what they want to do. I just think it'd be tough from a continuity standpoint to do that. I could also see a situation where, you know, Angeli gets the backup reps this time and then maybe against Miami, you know, Miami, Ohio, then Minchi gets the backup reps and then maybe against Navy, maybe that CJ cars turn to get backup reps, you know what I mean? Yeah. You know what I mean? Like they could do it that way. It just all depends on because I mean, I would think that they want to get car on the field at some point. I would think so. Yes. I would agree with you. But it's difficult when you've got two other quality guys in front of it. You know, if you are anticipating that he's going to be your starter next year, you better get him some reps this year. There's really no excuse not to. So I'll just put it that way. Yeah. With a new kicker, puncher, long snapper, short snapper and holder, did Marty Biagi achieve the most of all the Notre Dame coaches in the Texas A&M game? No, he didn't achieve the most. He achieved a lot for having all new guys. I mean, there's no doubt about that. And in theory, he coached up the guys that have been on the roster and that would be both snappers and the holder. And so you got to give him credit, no doubt about it. But if you whittle it down to plays on the field, I mean, it's minuscule in comparison to offense and defense and as the head coach as well. So I mean, the only the only negatives, I think, with the special teams were just some of the punts, you know, like they just looked off like I, you know, the line drives and he said he, you know, he say that for rapid fire. I don't know if you looked at the rapid. I did. I did. And so yeah, I don't want to go too in depth with that, but I still, I think that was hogwash. I think I did. I don't think that's what they wanted to do at all. Okay. All right. Like I said, I knew it'd get you fired up. Oh, it did. As soon as I saw that in that transcript, I was like, this is Vince material. Thanks for the super chat, Tyler. Who's hyped you by into more after week one USC Penn State or Miami and why USC because their offense is usually pretty good, right? And they have a good, look, they have a, they have a coach with a proven track record offensively. And I think I still wasn't all that impressed with their defense if I'm being honest, right? So I think they have the ability to sustain some offensive, you know, firepower and scoring points and some things like that. So I think USC has a track record of being good, especially offensively. Penn State has no track record of winning big games. So I don't care that they won in week one. That's not a big game. And look, Miami looked great, but it was one week. Let's see what happens when they meet a little adversity at some point. You know what I mean? I just, I'm still not a hundred percent sold on Cam Award. If I'm being honest and again, I just, I need to see what they can do more, you know, down the line. And look, USC doesn't have an easy stretch, but I just still have more faith in them than I do the other two. I'm kind of in the same boat. It's between USC and Penn State for me. Penn State just, you know, blasted West Virginia, but at the same time, they did that to open last season as well. And now they were still decent, didn't make the playoff, but like if you're going to ask me, which team has the better chance to make it to the playoff, it's probably Penn State because I think they've got a little bit easier road than USC and they've got fewer questions because now, right, okay, like what exactly is USC's defense? Absolutely. It looked better. But like I said, still some question marks there and how good is Miller Moss? How good is all of that going to be over the entirety of the season? But at the same time, I'll probably lean a little bit more toward USC since they did beat an LSU team that was supposed to still have a pretty good offense. They had the same defensive question, you know, but you know, only 47 total points in that game and both teams had huge defensive questions going into it. But again, I just, I don't see Penn State really being that much different for many other Penn State team there. They're definitely at a stage where they're more consistent, but I think I buy a little bit more into USC because of the chances with that offense. Yep. Because that's two games in a row where you know, Miller Moss has been pretty decent, really. Salty's not happy with my answer on the special teams question. Uh oh. He said he thought he lofted one down the middle for me and I whiffed. Sorry, buddy. That was a fat one, he said. I mean, I get where you're coming from, but essentially he's a position coach. Even though he's a special teams coordinator, as far as the snap or the holder, you're a position coach and I wouldn't put him above any of the other position coaches. In fact, quarters played pretty darn well. You know what I mean? Like there's a lot of other positions that played really well too. So you know, he did a great job. Nope, no doubt about it. He did a great job, but not ready to go. DK says Kelly beat LSU on his own. I mean, it feels like he's done that in all three season openers so far really. Yeah. Think about it. Yeah. Not great. Notre Dame's wine and cheese, I don't think we've seen this handle before says, I don't know if you announced a tailgate, but if you do, when is it, I think salty also asked about a tailgate. Have you heard any details on a tailgate for this game? I have not. I'm usually for this game. I'm usually the last to hear about any tailgate information for what it's worth. So yeah, I have not heard squat diddly. So I don't think there's going to be one this week. It's going to be when, you know, Brian's parents are in town, whenever that is, and I don't know the plans for that, so got you. So would you rather players walk the penalty line to be chirping on the field or show no fire, but be safe from penalty? And he said it another poet that he's referencing the Bo Collins could have been a penalty, but wasn't a penalty. And it should have been a penalty for being honest. I mean, he pushed the guy, like you can't push a guy, especially right in front of the official. He's lucky that, you know, Notre Dame staffer, whoever it was, it might have been Coach Brown. I'm not 100% sure, you know, stepped in, it's like, what are you doing? And then he immediately turned around and apologized to the referee. So I mean, he kind of got lucky on that one. Look, I want my, especially receivers, man, like I want them chirping. I want them in the ear of the DB, as long as they can back it up, number one. But you've got to know where the line is as far as getting. And the line is putting your hands on another guy. You just can't do that, especially the plays over like, Hey, man, you just made a hell of a catch. Talk, you talk like I'm cool with that, but you don't need to push him in the back when he's walking away. You know, that that's. Well, I guess you, I guess you don't know, you know, like, if there were some other things that were being said, I think that they were kind of going back and maybe the official was aware of that. Yeah. And that's why he didn't throw the flag. Definitely possible. Yeah. So good call. I don't know. Like exactly. Because obviously, Bo Collins pushed him for a reason. Yeah, it wasn't just, you know, because it's like, Hey, I made a great play. And now I'm going to shut, you know, there was, there was some stuff going on there. But again, you know, like he came out and talked to the media last night and he owned up to it and said, Hey, I've got to be better. You know, I want to be fired up and, you know, do all that stuff for the team, but he's got to be smarter. Like he knows, he knows better, but I mean, he was fired up. Like that was a hell of a catch and I'd be fired up. You should be fired up if I'm, if I'm Marcus Freeman, I'm telling him, like, dude, that was a clutch, massive catch for our team, be fired up, show your emotion. Just don't push the guy. Yeah. You got to know where the line is, that's all. Have you watched the, here come the Irish on peacock, the two episodes that they dropped last week. I sure have. So bye. So bye. So Joe wants to know what you think. Look, it was good enough that I'm upset. I don't get to watch another one until the season's over. You know, I mean, there was some good stuff in there and, you know, I like following, you know, Marcus Freeman around and, you know, some of that kind of stuff and, you know, it was very interesting to see them vote for captains, for example, you know, just some of that behind the scenes, now some of it, I know, I've known or new or I don't have to see it, but like some of that behind the scenes stuff is pretty cool. And I would imagine now that they're getting into the regular season, there's going to be a lot of cool stuff and my challenge is going to be remembering what the heck was even going on during weeks one, two, three, like at the season, you know what I mean? So I mean, honestly, what I was thinking is dropping it two days before the season started, like maybe they should have dropped it a week earlier. So that, you know what I mean, because like going into that weekend, like it's complete, like that's one of the, because I think we would have talked about it if it was a week earlier, because we still had a week to go before the game. But once the game hit, that's all anyone obviously wants to talk about for good reason. I think it's just kind of gotten swallowed up by the start of the season two days later. I thought it was pretty good. I like the first episode a little better than the second episode. Like they followed both Xavier Watts and Jack Kaiser in the second episode. And I felt like doing both of those stories, like especially when you consider again, they have the whole off season of content to put into this. I felt like two player profiles might have been a bit much for one episode of that coming into the season kind of thing when they had so much other stuff on kind of on the plate. But I, you know, again, I thought it was well done. Pretty good. It was, you know, fun to see Jack Kaiser go out to New York and propose to his now fiance and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. That was cool. I had no idea about that. So I mean, that was cool. Speaking of documentaries, Sean, mailbag question for you. Have you watched the Connor stallions documentary? I watched about half of it. Okay. So, okay. We don't want to get into it too far then. Have you watched the whole thing? I did. I watched it yesterday. I mean, I've heard about like everything that came at the tail end because like I just got so fed up with watching that first half of it because there was zero accountability from him. I know, right? I mean, obviously just denied anything. Everything. It's like, I'm a great science dealer. That's basically his, his side of the story is I'm a great science dealer. And that's it, you know, and look to, to, and a die hard Michigan. Right. Right. That was annoying by the way. Yeah. I'm just going to say that. But, and they really hit that part home like way too much that he was just a lifetime Michigan fan and all this other stuff. And it's like, well, no wonder he cheated for him like that doesn't even surprise me at this point. I, I did find it somewhat fascinating, you know, when he was at the Naval Academy, his entire job was trying to steal their signs and he came up with a pattern and all this stuff. And you've got to be pretty smart, obviously, to be able to do a lot of that stuff. But when he got to Michigan, he just took it too far. Yeah. You're clearly good at what you do, but he didn't have to take it to that next level, which he clearly did. All he had to do is do what he did when he was at Navy. Right. So, within the rules, correct, you know, within the rules, whatever's on the TV copy or whatever's going on from the sidelines, just do that because as he said, you know, like, he had this massive catalog of like every sign that you could imagine and took pictures of himself doing it like that was, that was actually really impressive. And then he would memorize all of them and then try and figure them out and all like that part I was fascinated by because that takes kind of a special mind to be able to do a lot of that kind of stuff. And so that impressed me, but it's like, dude, your, your love of Michigan blinded you clearly. And that's why you did what you did. And he still loves Michigan. He went to the national championship game. They actually talked to him at the national championship game, right? And like, because he was hiding and then he decided to kind of come out of hiding and all this other stuff. And it's funny because the guy who's in charge of like Barstool is a Portnoy, whatever his name is. And they asked, they asked him about being about the Central Michigan. Yes. I didn't see that in. Yes. And Portnoy, it was like, yeah, he told me that was him. Like he flat out said it. Yeah. And then they, then they flash over to Connor stallions and he's like, this guy doesn't even look like me as he's holding it next to his face and my daughter, who had just happened to walk in the room at that time, she's like, why is he holding a picture of himself? Cause like, if that wasn't him, are you telling me like, how hard is it for central Michigan to figure out who is or is it on the staff that looks like that? I know. I know. And they've got like all these security videos of the people that he bought tickets for filming the entire game and like, but they just happened to send him. They just have to send him. They just, they always just happened to be sitting across the field from the team that Michigan was going to play with a perfect shot of the sidelines. They just happened to send him, you know, video on the phone of guys, you know, going through his slides. That's, that's all that was. Just hilarious. It is what struck me is like this guy, apparently he decided like, now this is other stuff that I've, that I've read, I don't, I don't know if it actually came up in the science dealer, but like his intention to go to the Naval Academy was all part of his long term plan of being a coach at Michigan. He thought that it was going to like prepare him better, the discipline and just everything, strategic things that he was going to learn. So he went to the Naval Academy and all the things, and not just the Naval Academy, but obviously he became a Marine. And when you go through the Naval Academy, you decide, are you going to be a Marine or are you going to be in the Navy? And he chose Marines, which, you know, just from a, well, that's, that's again, the tougher path to go Marine Corps versus Navy. And that's the way. So he becomes a commissioned officer in the Marine Corps, right, and then starts flying around the country going to Michigan games and games, but like, like on the weekends, he's running out his house while he's sleeping in his car so that he can afford these flights and all this different stuff. This was all part of his grand plan, yes, Naval Academy, become a Marine Corps officer so that it would lead to him being the head coach at Michigan one, because he had done research. And it's like, I forget what the number was, was like 10 or 11 out of the top 15 all-time winningest college football coaches had all been in the military in some sort of fashion. And so he decided that's the path. And so that's what he did. And it doesn't sound like he was ever, you know, overseas or anything like that. It sounds like he was always state-side. So he was able to fly to these games on his own dime and was like a volunteer staffer for Michigan. - Right. - While he's still in the Marines. - Yes. - He's still in the Marines. - Yes. - And then he gets out and he finally gets his, his first dream job. - I had no, I, that part, like some of that back story stuff, I did not know. Like I did not know he was a Michigan fan. I did not know he was in the Marines. Like I didn't know that kind of stuff. But the documentary did a good job of laying out pretty much the case against him. And they would ask him about it and he'd be like, I don't know what you're talking about. But yeah, it was, you know, everything I'm doing is completely normal, man. - Yeah. - I'm just, I'm just, I'm just out here stealing signs from Michigan. - And at the end, he's like, well, I didn't break any rules, but I definitely operated in the gray. - Oh. - He's okay, dude, yeah, that means you broke rules. - Yeah. - Anyway, back to this stuff. - More questions. Mark wants to know what we think about Northwestern, how Northwestern football field football players feel about playing on a makeshift hula cross field for the next two years. Have you seen this setup that this guy over there? - First of all, the, the view is unbelievable. - I mean, it's beautiful right next to Lincoln. - It's beautiful. - I mean, it looks great. - Yeah. - Look, it's a small, obviously it's a smaller stadium. It's pretty amazing. - It would be an awesome high school stadium. - It would be a good, great call or a small college, you know, that kind of a thing. Maybe I'm wrong here. And if somebody knows, please correct me. Northwestern wasn't selling out their stadium, okay? They are now. And there, so now they can say that they're playing in front of a sold out crowd and, you know, all this other stuff. Um, look, I think the vast majority of Northwestern football players have other aspirations. And while they are football players, don't get me wrong. I would, I would kill to have my kid get a football scholarship to go to Northwestern. I don't care what stadium they're playing in, okay? I don't think it matters that much and, and the guys that are going to be around for the next three, four years will then be able to be in the new stadium and it will be great. Yeah, I mean, it would, it would, it would suck a little bit if you're a senior or something like that. But I mean, it is a beautiful view, it means right on the lake right now. It's pretty awesome. But if you want new, if you want this new stadium, you got to do this too. So I mean, it's, it's kind of a, if you want this, you got to do this. Yeah, I mean, it stinks, but they are building them a new stadium and that's, you know, this is a temporary stadium. And like when I was looking at it, when they kind of showed the area, you know, my first thought was, well, you know, man, it's too bad that like they didn't have more space there because I think there is like, I don't know if it's a practice field or what, like just build the actual stadium right there. I wonder how big the new one is going to be. I mean, it's going to be bigger than this one because again, it is not big. It is, is like a small college or a high school, yeah, high field. They do have some sweets and you know, they've added more sweets to kind of, you know, let the, the alums with the money and all that kind of stuff, you know, be able to drink their wine and eat their cheese and all that different kind of stuff. But it's a unique atmosphere. Yeah. It's not going to be the rowdyest atmosphere, but it's no unique. But again, is it ever at Northwestern? I mean, I think, you know, like down the line, I think it actually kind of be cool that they'll be able to say, yeah, we've played in that, that funny little stadium right by the lake when we were there. I know, right. And, and Tom Beast, as is anyone seeing the Northwestern football facilities, Taj Mahal, they have really nice facilities. I mean, they have really nice facilities at Northwestern and they're all pretty new as well. So they're obviously putting some resources into this football program and into their athletics facility, you know, alone, because I believe the soccer stadium is on the lake as well. So they've got some pretty cool facilities over there at Northwestern. Hey, Irish Breakdown listeners, it's Urban Meyer. This fall, the game changes. Join me. Heisman Trophy winner Mark Ingram and broadcaster Rob Stone as we bring you a new perspective on football and culture every week. 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I mean, he's obviously going to have, you know, 13 starts or 14 or 15 or whatever the number ends up being, and he's going to compete for it though, because Charles Jagasau's really freaking good, okay? And if Emil Wagner continues to also improve, he's going to be pretty good too. And you're going to have four legit tackles competing for two spots at this point. Because you're going to throw a Gerbery Lambert correct into the mix as well. And it's not like you've got any interior guys that are going to be graduating that are starting right now that you could like move maybe, you know, Anthony nap into guard or something like that. So I would say if I was a betting man, I would say that the starting lineup for the offensive line in week one next year will be different than this year. But I, for the life of me, I can't tell you what the difference is going to be. And as Irish for life says, that's a good problem to have. Yeah, I mean, I'll be honest, it's something that I've thought about, but they've played one game this year. So let's get through this year and see how this year. And then we'll talk about, you know, next year and, you know, because it is, it's going to come up. If Anthony Nap plays well this season, there's going to be a major competition for that job in the spring and next fall training camp and we're going to be having conversations about who's going to win that thing. And someone's probably going to surprise us again for the third straight year. So really good question. And speaking of which where was the other one, oh, do you see the offense trying to let the ball? Good question. Joe. And I forgot that this one was up here. I had to scroll all the way to the top. Do you see the offense trying to let the ball fly this weekend since the offensive line should be in a more manageable situation? Yeah. I think you'll see the offense kind of open it up a little bit more. I think the offense was very deliberate this past week and it was part of their game plan as they didn't, you know, especially once the game started to wear on a little bit, because they, they did call some shot plays, but they just didn't work out for better or worse. They didn't work out. I think as the, as the game went on and they kind of saw how the flow of the game was going, I do think that they kind of tightened up the reins a little bit and decided, hey, you know, this is a zero score game or a one score game, like, let's not put the ball in position to turn it over. We'll see. We'll take it down to you. Exactly. I mean, they felt good about where they were and how they were executing and things like that. But I think at some point they're like, you know what, I think we're just better off keeping a little bit more closer to the vest and they ended up with a double digit win. So I think, you know, when it's all said and done, you can't be upset with it. But yes, I think they will. These next three weeks, I think we're going to see a lot more shots downfield. They've got to figure out just how much that can be a part of their offense. They want it to be part of their offense. It's why, you know, again, part of why you get Riley Leonard and add these veteran receivers to the mix. They want to be more downfield and that's got to be part of their arsenal ultimately as you go on and you, you know, you're competing in the college football playoff and those kind of things, but against the better teams on the schedule, that's got to be a part of it. And you know, by the time you get there, you are completely expecting that your offensive line is going to be in a, you know, in a different state that it was in week one against a really good line like Texas A&M. I mean, like I said earlier this week, it's going to look different the rest of the season. It's going to look better, especially for this next month, just based on the difference in the level of the competition that you're going to play, agreed. Salty wants to know if Yingling Logger is the unofficial beverage of the IB tailgate. I mean, you can make it that if you want, you can buy OB. All right. So if that's what you want it to be, buddy, you can do that, but it is a BYOB. We talked about this before, you know, you want it, if you want to butter me up, all you're going to do is show up with an ice cold Yingling. You are a Yingling fan. I am. It's back in the, like you can get it around here now, but yeah, not that long ago, I remember people going out of town and you bring it back or bring it back for you. That's right. You know, that kind of thing. So making the runs to Ohio and yep, that's exactly what I remember. Yep. Jesse would, when he would see his lady friends in Ohio, he would go, you know, stop at the mire over there and throw a couple of cases in the trunk and lady friends, all that good stuff. Yeah. From Robert, I suppose the idea of lowering academic standards, so Notre Dame can recruit better players. Oh, he opposes. Sorry. I oppose the idea. This Purdue grad feels strongly. The appeal of Notre Dame football is ability to win without lowering standards. So not really a question, but what do you think? Look, Robert, they're not lowering standards. I don't know where you got that, but there's plenty of people that Notre Dame doesn't recruit like some guys in their own backyard that they have no desire to recruit because they cannot cut it academically. I mean, bottom line. And so they are not lowering the standards at all now. They are adjusting some things to, because there are certain players, certain kids, certain students that, you know, once they get here, they can handle the workload, right? And there's, so there may be like some chances that they take on a guy or something along those lines, but there has to be tangible evidence that they're going to be able to handle the workload once they arrive. So they're not lowering the standards by any stretch, right? Because like, even in the last couple of years, like Marcus Freeman, what he's not doing is it is kind of that profile of, well, you've got to be this before I'm going to recruit you. They're going to recruit who they think are the best players. And then if they commit, you know, the vetting process kind of begins as they go through their academics and stuff like that, but there have been a de-commitment or two that had to do with the admission process and whether or not they were actually going to get into the school once they had committed, you know, they got to the point where they found out they weren't going to be able to fit that. That's happened. They had to, yeah. So they had to de-commit and go elsewhere, basically. Yep. Yep. And he's clarifying in the chat, you know, I'll pull it up so we can read it. He says in past, people like Paul Horning suggested doing so, even though it's not an issue now, it has been mentioned in years past when they weren't winning. I understand what you're saying, Robert, but there's a reason that they haven't done that because they do have standards and I don't think that's going to change any time soon. Yeah. Because it doesn't need to. Yeah. And I think that that question is a lot less of an issue right now, as we say. Right. Again, like especially when you look at current recruiting and stuff like that, which we'll touch on. I think we can kind of touch on that in rapid fire when we've got some different stuff that we're going to get to. Joe wants to know, "Tough for game for the average. Georgia Tech or Florida State?" Well, right now I'd say Georgia Tech. I know, right? Yeah. I mean, they have shown that they can win football games for the state. They were competitive against Georgia Tech in game one. They weren't competitive against Boston College. So they got a lot of self-scouting to do. They're going to have to figure some stuff out over there in Tallahassee before I think that that's even going to be a tough game right now. I mean, is there still time to change it to an afternoon game, Sean? That'd be great. I hope so. Yes. That was actually something I was thinking again, like when random thoughts pop out of my head, I put it on my note page, "Should they flip the Louisville and Florida State? Which one is prime time?" Well, the jury's still out about Louisville at the moment, but I agree with you at the right now. At least right now it's looking like a better match. So the new AP poll came out yesterday, was Florida State even in it? No. Yeah, I didn't think that they would be. Okay. So now they're unranked. They were the 10th best team in the country, supposedly, and now they're unranked. If that's not a giant warning sign on the transfer portal and building your team that way, I don't know what is. Sometimes it works like last year, and sometimes it doesn't like this year. We talked tailgate earlier, Irish for Life 99, no Ivy tailgate that we know of. Like Vince was saying. You know, maybe Louisville, like a Brian's parents, or I would think that that might be one that they would come in for as opposed to. He mentioned it in one of the shows that we did, but I'll be honest, I don't remember which one it was. I think it was a night game, but I just can't remember. Well, if it's a night game, it's Florida State. Yeah, I just can't remember. So, but listen, if there's going to be a tailgate, it will be well publicized prior. So I'm writing down a future rapid fire question. So I don't want to, you know, I don't want to waste it all in the middle of a mailbag. I agree. We can dig into it a little bit. Agreed. You just, you just gave me a little, gave me a little thought there. Mark, if you're hanging around, he got a lot of questions in the chat tonight. If you could be a little more specific on this, I don't think I've heard what you're, where do you weigh in on the Swoops SAS Lieberman controversy on Caitlin Clark? I didn't realize there was a new Caitlin Clark controversy. So what it is either? I mean, there's been enough stupid Caitlin Clark controversy that I'm not saying she's stupid. I'm saying the controversy that surrounded her and stupid, just with everything that has followed her into the WNBA. It's like, they just mismanaged like the whole, what, they had this huge shining star. And when you look at every metric, they're getting better ratings across the board and her, you know, games that she plays in are up there at the top. And oh, by the way, they started one and eight. Now they're going to be a playoff team. They're above 500, you know, it's like, things have worked out pretty well for Caitlin Clark. Maybe they should have just kind of bought into Caitlin Clark a little bit earlier instead of everybody telling her that she wasn't good enough to play and everything else. Swoops pulled from a TV broadcast as being negative on Caitlin. I'll have to, wow, I'll have to look into that. If that's the case and that's the reason why I don't like that. If an analyst should be able to analyze, I mean, it should be negative if you want to be negative. You should be positive if you want to be positive. You have to keep some objectivity. Of course. You can't just go out of your way to bash one player. So that's the case. Like I don't know what was said, but that's the case that, you know, they literally pulled her from a TV broadcast because of it. Yikes. But there's been, there's, you know, there's just been a lot of negativity. She's got her haters. There's no doubt about that. And I don't think she deserves it, frankly. Nick, happy Gilmore too is happening. Thoughts? I, I'm skeptical just as I was with the second top gun because we always bring that up. So I'm skeptical, but I'm sure that I will see it and I just, I don't know, I'm not a big fan of retreads and I feel like they're retreading it a little bit. I mean, in the post top gun, I know, like you've got happy Gilmore too. You've got Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice coming out, I've heard mixed reviews on that, even though I still want to see it. I think there's another one, another kind of that's going to be coming out as well. I can't think of it off. There's a lot of sequels coming out and, and that's kind of been the norm here for the past, you know, however many years, it just seems like nobody's got an original thought anymore. So, but you know, how good could it be Bob Barker's dead? Yeah. Dodgeball. It's a dodgeball sequel, right? Really? Dodgeball. We did talk about that, didn't we? Yeah. That's what it is. I knew it was something with Vince Vaughn. I think that's going to be interesting. He's got the, this show called Bad Monkey on Apple right now. And it's not bad. Just a little, a little slow pace. Okay. You know, but you still got some, some, some decent Vince Vaughn humor and stuff. I'm a big fan of the Vince Vaughn humor. I'm not going to lie. I'm not an Apple subscriber. So I do not, I was intrigued by it, but not enough to drop the coinage. Which is more impactful. Bo Collins, five catches for 56 yards of the great ones, three for three and a PI for 42 yards, three converting first downs on scoring drives. I know which direction you're going, Salty. Jesse drew up that, you know, the third down conversion play on the past at Jaden Great House yesterday. I thought that they're like, that was, that was one of the more pivotal plays in the game. Converting considering that was only their second, third down conversion. But I, I, I've got to put her pretty equal because Bo Collins came up pretty clutch with that 20 yard catch as well in the same drive. Yeah. Exactly. Again, you can cheer for other guys, Salty. It's allowed to cheer for other guys. It's absolutely allowed to cheer for the whole team. Salty Joe says, Swoopz wasn't pulled for being negative. She was pulled for making up certain stats to diminish Caitlyn Clark's college records, refused to apologize, then refused to be objective with Clark. I mean, if she's making stuff up and it's just always negative, then yeah, I mean, that's probably in line for at the very least of talking to, but, you know, again, I, I'd have to hear what she was saying in fact, check it and all that stuff before I really feel good about making a, you know, a claim. But if that is true, that's, that's not, that's not cool. Yeah. I'll do a little research on this and if we want to talk about it at a later date. Fair enough. We can't. It's got rapid fire potential. Yeah. I think so. Well, we'll try to work it in there. Oh, Sloppy Joe says the reason Clark had those records was because she was in college for five years, which is obviously not true. Yeah. It's going to be four years later, right? Yeah. Interesting. Well, that's such an easily fact checkable stat. You know what I mean? Like, I mean, like Colin Cowherd plays with facts like that, though, all the time. And Colin Cowherd's not getting suspended, you know, so fair. But Colin Cowherd is also not, it is not doing game broad guess. I think there's a different standard when you're talking about game broadcast versus an opinion show. And he's not, he's not denigrating the face of an entire league on a regular basis either. You know what I mean? And so I'm sure that was part of it too. I mean, they don't want a negative slant. Yeah, I just, I mean, I don't understand why these players are so mad at Caitlin Clark for being good. I know. Basically, like, like she's still in the thunder, like, look, if she gets paid more, you get paid more. It's how it works. It's okay to be okay with it, you know? Yep. Nick says, interact on Chris Mitchell, having a hundred plus yards and two touchdowns this week. I've got to be out on that. Yeah, me too. I just, I didn't see anything. I didn't see, cause like I've said before, I don't know if Chris Mitchell is just a, a two catch, maybe one big play per game kind of guy, or if he's actually going to be consistent based on what we saw in camp and what we saw in game one and a lean more towards, he's not going to be a big volume kind of guy. Yeah. So I've got to be out on a green or disagreement. I'm going to be out on a green or something. I'm going to be out on a green or something. At King Super's Pharmacy, care is making it easy to get vaccinated. Care is helping you stay protected from flu, COVID and RSV. Seasonal vaccines are available seven days a week with evening hours. Care is giving you a shot at staying healthy this season. Check in whenever is best and get multiple vaccines in one visit at your local King Super's Pharmacy. So come and get the protection you need while protecting those around you. King Super's, a world of care is in store. 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