Today's Rapid Fire topics include:
* We hear comments from Marcus Freeman on the play of Vyper defensive end Jordan Botelho vs Texas A&M. On a scale of 1 to 10...How convinced are you that Botelho has officially turned a corner?
* We have more from Freeman on tight end Mitchell Evans, whose snap count was limited against the Aggies. Scale of 1 to 10...What’s your concern level with Evans being healthy and what’s your concern level with the tight end room without a healthy Evans?
* Fill-in the blank...It’s BLANK that Notre Dame vs A&M had 8.2 million viewers, making it ABC’s most-watched Saturday night game since Notre Dame at Ohio State in 2020, which got 10.53 million.
* Someone on our New Champions Lounge say he’s convinced nobody can actually hate Notre Dame and the main reason for past Notre Dame hate is because of Brian Kelly. Do you Buy or Sell it?
* Fill-in the blank...Florida State losing to Boston College is BLANK.
* After seeing Clemson get thumped by Georgia over the weekend...do you Buy or Sell Dabo Swinney’s best days being behind him?
* On ESPN’s Get Up...former Jets GM Mike Tanenbaum said he thinks there’s a better chance that Shedeur Sanders is the Dallas Cowboys quarterback next year than Dak Prescott. Mike Greenberg said hold my beer and said he thinks there’s a better chance Deion Sanders is in Dallas than either of them. What do you think of all this hot-takery?
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I'm going to have to go a solid 9 out of 10. The first indication that I got is that he took his off-season preparation seriously. Right? The guy came into camp in fantastic shape, the best shape we've ever seen him. I even recognize him almost. Like his face is way slimmed down compared to, you know, what he was in the past. And then, you know, another thing too is, you know, I've been watching kind of the here come the Irish on the peacock. He put himself up there to be a team captain. And even though he didn't get, you know, overall selected, I still think that's the mentality that he had is, you know, it is my time on this defense. I'm a veteran. I'm going to be a leader. And so, again, not getting selected, sure, whatever. But I like the mindset of still wanting to lead, right? To still put himself out there and take on those expectations and, you know, kind of getting into how he played against Texas A&M. I thought he was tremendous. I thought the effort was there every game. And I think most importantly, we never saw the play where like, damn, Batello really, you know, screwed up that fit or Batello is the reason why a big play kind of broke here. Or, you know, maybe he didn't keep contained on the quarterback as he was stepping up in the pocket. That's what I was going to say. There was only one play like that that I remember. Like he looped outside and around a little bit and Wigman took off running. I think he scrambled, ended up scrambling for a first down. Like that was the only one that I really remember. It was in the first half. But otherwise, the contained seemed good all night. He was where he was supposed to be most of the night. It was just it was just a really good day for him. He ended up with six tackles, the second most tackles for the defense. A lot of lane integrity, right? Like force plays to kind of go inside and not break to the outside. Didn't over pursue and create run lanes off the edge. And yeah, he found a way to kind of get himself into the tackle mix as well. So I just thought he played a very clean game, right? Like I think he didn't really have too many like wow, high plays and he didn't really have any two, you know, like what do you do in type plays? He played really consistent, played really hard. And again, I think that's what you need out of that position. And that's what Marcus Dreamin loves is consistently. Who can I trust to be out there every play and who's going to give me their best effort every play. And I thought he did a tremendous job of that the entire game. Yeah, where is the question? Josh asked, how many pressures he got to the team got to buttello had both of them. So, you know, that was big as well. You know, as a team, they didn't have a whole lot of pressures. You know, they only had the one sack by Howard Cross, just the two pressures. But it was it was obviously a very good night overall. And, you know, I think I'm kind of a sloppy Joe, like he says he thinks in eight, but don't know if the team tricked him into thinking that Texas A&M was a bowl game, you know, because that's it seems to be like when buttello comes to play. So I'm a little bit lower, I guess, because look, we've seen flashes from Jordan buttello before. But what do we need to see from him? We need to see consistency game in and game out. So like, okay, very good. You had a really good game against Texas A&M. And like Marcus Freeman said, in contention Xavier Watts ended up being the defensive player of the game. And, you know, buttello was in that conversation as well. I'm more like what USMA maybe just a tech below. He says six, seven, I'm in a five, six range. I just need to continue to see it for a couple of games. But just a lot of discipline that he showed and not just reckless abandon out there. And that's kind of what we've seen from me, just a lot of undisciplined stuff. But you're right about his conditioning as well. I think he talked about the fact that he like stopped eating, you know, I don't know if it was mind goalie in barbecue or, you know, something like those Korean barbecue, I think is what he said that he that he had to give up. And he lost a good 15, 20 pounds as a result. He, you know, he looks like it. He looks like he's moving a lot better out there. So tight end Mitchell Evans played just 10 snaps against Texas A&M after coming back from ACL surgery last October. Here's what Marcus Freeman said about that. You know, he just got cleared probably six days or seven days before we played. So we were very intentional about getting him on the field and the right opportunities. But we, he wasn't, you know, without having a full training camp, he just physically wasn't ready to play 50, 60, 70 plays each week. He'll continue to increase his workload. It's a long season. And so we got to make sure that we give him the best opportunity to succeed throughout the entirety of the season. So another scale of one to 10, what's your concern level with Evans being healthy and what's your concern level with the tight end room without a healthy bitch. Yeah, I think my level of concerns with Mitchell Evans is like a five or six kind of really around a 50 50, right? I think when you have kind of the injuries that he's had, there's always going to be a chance. But I like the approach that Marcus Freeman and the team were taking being like, well, just because you're clear doesn't mean we're going to throw you right into the fire immediately, right? Like you build up kind of that, that stamina or that snap count that he was talking about. And I think eventually he'll get, you know, back into the groove of things. But again, I'm going to put it at like a 50 50 because I think when you talk about ACLs and that sort of thing, I think once it happens to you once, you're kind of permanently compromised. And again, it just kind of takes, you know, one hit, one kind of awkward landing. And unfortunately, you could kind of be back in the same situation. And then kind of moving on to, you know, the my concern with the tight end room without Mitchell Evans, you know, to be quite honest with you. Yes, he's one of the nations, you know, top end talented tight ends when he's healthy. But my level of concern would probably still only be like a two or three because I have a lot of confidence in Eli Reardon and Cooper Flanagan. I think those guys are great. I mean, we saw the catch that Flanagan made on that play that I just had on the whiteboard. So while it would suck, I still think Notre Dame has a bunch of talent behind him in the tight end room. So my level of concern really wouldn't be too high. 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Mike and my level concern with the tight end room is probably a two maybe just because like we saw Cooper Flanagan now Flanagan you know there was a black or two that he missed that's got to get better because that is part of the job. That is part of the job of the tight end and I think that it's smart the way they played Mitchell Levens he was he was mostly out there on third downs just as you know like as a receiving tight end he was unattached out there. So that's you know so we only ended up playing the 10. Keeping him out of those sort of you know what would you what would you call him you know like more more contact with with the blocking and stuff like think about. Remember when Patrick Mahomes injured his knee a few years ago like it was more QB sneaks that's right it was on a quarterback sneak type thing where you've got a kind of you know more strain and pressure on that knee trying to get through the line and that's obviously you're going to be there's going to be a lot more strain and pressure and stuff like that when you're coming back from a knee injury if you're asking your tight end to do more blocking. My level of concern with Evans is probably you know maybe a four or five just because of the fact that they do like my only concern is that you know if you know if it's like a little tender and he is still coming back and all that different kind of stuff that like you just don't know like any flooky crazy kind of play could ultimately injure it you know just like it was a flooky crazy kind of play that where he injured it last year on the turf out there. So like four or five but the fact that they're giving him this load management tells me that they're not going to push him back too soon they're not going to try to push him back too soon and there are you know enough other quality guys at that position that they don't have to rush you back in there. So Andrew Gilmore kind of brings up I would say the kind of the one downside of losing Michelle Evans is I don't think Rareden and Flanagan are near that type of blockers that he is and I think that is you know I'm important when you are trying to get on the perimeter and run those kind of power runs that we just saw with Riley Leonard and I think those guys will get there with more reps. He's Mitchell, Mitchell Evans is better than that but that's ultimately what you're afraid of is you don't want him engaging on those open field kind of blocks essentially. And it's like Rareden was a pretty good blocker a couple of years ago as a freshman and then he had his own injury and I would say I agree with that Andrew you know like what you want from the tight ends as as blockers. And that's probably the issue but I would have thought that we would have seen more out of Eli Rareden in that respect but same but we didn't you know so I mean it kind of goes to I don't want to. This is like my biggest takeaway from the offensive side of the ball and I don't think I'll have another kind of opportunity to get this in here. And I think kind of frank about it I don't think we're going to see an offense like this the rest of the season I think there was a very deliberate plan for the young offensive line for you know understanding how much time Riley Leonard would have to get the ball out. What kind of run plays and concepts can work off of that. I think you're going to start to see more of the downfield stuff as the season progresses this was an elite defensive line from Texas A&M. You know this is the same old same old we can't throw the ball we're not pushing it downfield hold your horses relax a little bit. I think Mike Denmark had an entire kind of summer camp to figure out how he wanted to handle Texas A&M and that's going to look different from what you might see the rest of the season. Correct. So the question about from sportsman Philly 22 Andre or Andre on yay was never mentioned did he actually play. He did and he actually played quite a bit Saturday he played according to pro football focus where are my defensive line numbers. That's not quite a bit but he played a decent amount 18 total snaps like Howard Cross played the most cross 51 snaps but Telho 48 Mills 41. Treyori 36 snaps are great game yeah he did RJ open 29 Josh Burnham 26 highness 25 on yay 18 and Bryce Young played a pair of snaps out there according to P still 25% of the game. So yeah I mean they you know they let it you know and look like I think when you look at those 18 snaps the way they played him. They really kept crossing Mills fresh for the end of the game you know when when you needed him to be out there making some plays. Matt says give young a shot he played he played a couple of snaps I mean Josh Burnham and RJ open are in front of them they deserve everything that they're getting as well. Open was out there and didn't see a whole lot of impact from him. But you know just in terms of you know again like setting the edge and all that different kind of stuff I thought that it was pretty good you know when you look at how well Notre Dame played against the run and you didn't have a lot of busted plays and stuff like that. And the defensive line can go overlooked in some of that even there even though they're not accumulating a bunch of stats I still think they played pretty solid out there. It's blank that Notre Dame versus Texas A&M had 8.2 million viewers make it at ABC's second most what Saturday night game since Notre Dame Ohio State in 2022 which got 10.53 million. Yeah not to sound kind of you know like oh better than everyone but kind of like to me it's expected I mean we're talking about Notre Dame against an SEC opponent both teams are ranked on the road opening week of college football season in prime time like honestly I would be like I was actually a little bit more surprised that it didn't do better than the Notre Dame and Ohio State game from a year or two ago right like I always expect what the competition was you know like in terms of what else was on that night right and so again I to me those those things are always kind of expected Notre Dame as a national brand they're playing an SEC team that's ranked on the road. And again you either to me you you you love or hate Notre Dame you tune in to watch them because you love them and you want them to win or if you're like my friends from Michigan and every other friend I have you tune in to watch and so when they're doing the game text me and try to ruin the rest of my day right like that's ultimately how it goes either love them or you hate them but you're ultimately always going to be tuned in because they're a national brand. Yeah. Beef eater says it sounds kind of low but again remember Ohio State two years ago the game on ABC at the shoe the horseshoe 10.5 million. This is second only to that so even though it's a couple million shy of that I mean Ohio State is a big TV commodity as well. I think it you know it it it says a lot about Notre Dame and the interest in that game and I'm just going to go to the next question because you know with kind of some of the stuff that you were just saying you kind of you know set up for this one I don't know if it's coming but someone on our new champions lounge made a post saying he's convinced that nobody can actually hate Notre Dame and the main main reason for past Notre Dame hate is basically because of Brian Kelly over the last 15 years do you buy or sell that and I think I'm so that I think Notre Dame whether they want to admit it or not let's just be honest they kind of keep their nose above everyone and kind of have this mentality of you know we're kind of better than everyone we're smarter than you when they were winning at football in the 80s and before that you know like they have the all Americans they have the Heisman's they have the you know the guys going into the NFL they have a great degree again when all things are clicking there's really in my opinion I do much better than Notre Dame right because you're the to me you're like the nerd that's also a stud jock at the same time and to kind of go into what I was just saying you either love them because of this brand that they built nationwide you know coast to coast or you hate them because you want to watch them lose like listen to bar stool big cat right like when he was interviewing Marcus Freeman he was like listen I like to see Notre Dame lose but Notre Dame being good is good for college football right and I think that's what's important at the end of the day everyone wants Notre Dame to be good but they also want him to see them fail in the big moment and that's the thing Notre has it won in the big moment in a really long time and that's the most polarizing program that there is in college football and it goes above Alabama and Ohio State and Michigan and everybody else they're the most polarizing like they've been hate for Notre Dame since before the white walkers roam the earth like didn't they do a game of thrown episode about you know how much everybody hates Notre Dame it feels like it because it just goes back so law I mean obviously you know it goes back to Catholic stuff with Michigan and Yoast and you know all that different stuff but obviously the Notre Dame is just polarizing the independence question that comes up all the time and it's basically because of you either love or you hate Notre Dame it had nothing to do with Brian Kelly and Andrew made up a good point the hate for Brian Kelly is internal like like that's a Notre Dame fan thing like most people from the outside can't understand why Notre Dame fans you know a majority of Notre Dame fans are at least a good chunk of Notre Dame fans I don't even know if it's a majority but a good you know why you know so many people are down on Brian Kelly and then you know you watch you know like the clip from the other night and it was worse when he was at Notre Dame you know blaming the snapper for bad snaps in a hurricane you know stuff like that that would come out of Brian Kelly all the time and you know obviously the way he left so the Notre Dame has just always been love hate has nothing to do with any coach recently it's just you know look and ask you know like he's saying well like if you're a fan of a team of course you're going to like question like how can anybody actually hate my team you know why do they hate my team well think about okay you're a fan of this team think about the teams that you you know hate or dislike or whatever as a result because of your fandom for that specific team and then flip it around and virtually everybody's got that for Notre Dame like Notre Dame just fits right in the middle of everybody's venn diagram let me just let me let me put this out there this this this is gonna I'm gonna catch a little bit of flack everyone's gonna have to take a drink here whatever but for everyone in the chat this is the most comparable thing I think I can say think of how you feel about the Dallas Cowboys that's it's the same type of energy between the Notre Dame is the most comparable team to the Dallas Cowboys you either love them or you hate them right if you're a Cowboys fan you absolutely love them yeah no you're absolutely right it just falls into that same sort of you know perception and so when you ask this question again just reflect on how you feel about the Dallas Cowboys there you go fill in the blank Florida state losing to Boston college is blank embarrassing to the highest degree I still need to get need to know if that guy that said he'd eat some dog poop out of the cup has ate that dog he emerged have they found him are they looking for him no but it all seriously like if you're Mike Norvella like you you have to be almost on your way out of town like the the the suitcase is half packed the plane is fired up like if they lose another game and I don't even know who they play next but I just don't understand how this thing goes on much longer and to be honest with you you know kind of coming off of you know the talent they had last season and where they've kind of ended up at this point it's just not a good look and it's I think they're they paid a lot of money into the you know this is a thing they're not just mediocre to bad at quarterback they have a lot of issues amongst the offensive line the running backs like their whole offense is really bad and then not even to mention like they're getting gouged by Georgia Tech Boston college on defense like they can't stop anyone and they can't score it all so I mean this is a really embarrassing look for a team that cried cried cried that they belonged in the college football playoff last season and that's a thing they they they seem like they got hung up on last year they obviously made a big mistake in evaluation with DJ Uyongala lay he is worse now than he was when he was at Clemson a couple of years ago he has not looked good at all and it's not just that they've lost they're already out of the the ACC conference race because they've not just lost two games to open the season they've lost to two ACC teams Georgia Tech and to Boston College and I was thinking about this today they just played in week zero in Ireland last week then they came home and now they got two extra days because they played on a Monday but you know think about Notre Dame scheduled last year they came back and they played but what did they do they played Tennessee State they played their first ever FCS team so that they didn't have to take a break that next week and they still played a game and got a win like they are just it is not a good situation at all and like when you spin it to what Notre Dame schedule like Notre Dame schedule already did not look great and if this is what you're going to see from Florida State this season man I mean like that's the primetime game in early November is Notre Dame and Florida State you know the way it's shaping up right now that's not going to set any viewership records I will say though what you just said I don't know if you caught a glimpse I knew you were a busy man before the show today but I think that's why I never liked getting caught up in the preseason rankings are what just let the season play out let the schedule play out I guarantee by the time it's all said and done they'll play at least three to four ranked opponents and they'll have their fair share of you know hard medium and easy opponents just like every other you know schedule does Georgia Tech could easily replace Florida State essentially the tough game on the schedule you're right I did see someone a Notre Dame guy on Twitter this afternoon who was who went and you know like there's like all the ballots are public like who voted for who and how they you know did all that different stuff about you know there were a couple people who you know actually dropped Notre Dame after they won on the road last week and stuff like that which is just seems very odd I mean how many ranked teams actually played in a week you're going to lead me to my favorite tangent of this week noted I remember this specifically as I was watching the Notre Dame A&M game on my phone in a camper in the middle of nowhere Ohio when I'm freaking you know having a little bit of sprite and I'm sitting there watching and they cut to halftime and the first thing they say is Alabama doesn't look like they've lost a step under Kaylin Daborne it's like they're playing Western Kentucky like what do you expect why don't we talk about the team who's actually you know showing some guts and tied in a game at halftime on the road and what's considered the most hostile environment in the country sorry we're not playing Furman sorry we're not playing Akron or Western Kentucky like how can you get a true glimpse of who these teams are and what they are when you're loaded with four and five star recruits and maybe maybe some of these teams have one four star recruit one five star like what are we talking about right like that's the stuff that drives me crazy at the end of the day yeah somebody moved Missouri past Notre Dame after Missouri beat Murray State 51 to nothing in week one and again we're talking about a road win against an a ranked SEC team that Notre Dame had and Missouri impressed the underdog they were the underdogs yeah yeah so yeah that's you know again it comes back to a lot of these people can can try to say well you know I'm in the media and you know and I'm you know not biased and I'm looking at this subjectively or whatever but it just feels like you're showing a little bit of bias somewhere if that's how you're voting Hey Irish Breakdown listeners it's Urban Meyer this fall the game changes join me Heisman Trophy winner Mark Ingram and broadcaster Rob Stone as we bring you a new perspective on football and culture every week we'll be joined by the biggest name in sports and talk about everything inside and outside of the lines let us guide you through a new era of college football watch triple option on YouTube or listen on Apple Podcasts Spotify or wherever you get podcasts So after seeing Clemson get thumped by Georgia over the weekend do you buy or sell Davos Sweeney's best days being behind him I would push but I'm going to say I'm going to say sell I don't think his best days are behind him I think Cade Cub the better question should be is Cade Club Nick's best days behind him and I think that answer is true listen ultimately what wrong what won Davos Sweeney those national championships and allowed him to go on those runs Trevor Lawrence in the Trevor Lawrence exactly he nailed it at the quarterback position right One of my buddies texted me over this weekend Riley your Notre Dame success is going to be predicated around the performance of Riley Leonard it's like no don't know no like that's not even a statement what are you saying every college team revolves around how good their quarterback is if you have an elite quarterback on with the you know relatively elite roster you're going to accomplish a lot of things right and so to me Davos Sweeney just hasn't found his way back to a Deshawn Watson or a Trevor Lawrence or that's kind of situation because their defense didn't look half bad last year you got to realize they're playing friggin Georgia It actually didn't look half bad for half the game the other day like Georgia wasn't scoring for most of the first half either but when the offense isn't contributing for Clemson it just you know blew things open You're absolutely right and that's pretty much my point and it's not just that he hasn't found Trevor Lawrence and Deshawn Watson it's he's missed on two five star quarterbacks in a row D.J. 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Angola lay in K club Nick and like otherwise You can talk about transfer portal and all that different stuff but the rest of the roster is in pretty good shape you know it's not I wouldn't put it like I guess what I'm saying like the direction that Marcus Freeman is taking this like when you look at the quarterback recruiting That's just what you were saying about Riley Leonard that's ultimately if Notre Dame is going to be a true national championship contender and not just get to the playoff contender It's the quarterback recruiting and the discussion about do you really need to get a five star or a high four star quarterback every year that's why you have to keep going out and trying to get that every single year That's the biggest thing to hit on all of them you know odds the odds say that at some point Some guys are going to hit at some point some guys are going to miss and that's that's the biggest thing for Sweeney right now is he's missed on two five star quarterbacks in a row but that's why you've got to go out and get the The absolute best quarterback that you can in every cycle to help prevent some of that because you are going to have transfers and at some point some of these guys are going to miss I enjoy the sarcasm in this question I know that it's oozing in sarcasm and just to kind of cap off this kind of discussion we're having here and I know it's like easier to have this conversation in hindsight right Put everything aside I'm gonna ask you a simple question does Notre Dame win that game with Sam Hartman as quarterback I don't think so I don't think so I mean it took Riley Leonard's legs to to make things open ultimately yeah And again you know like when you look at why they needed to go out and get Riley Leonard in the transfer portal Steve Angelier or Kenny Menchie easily as we've said before could beat 95% of the schedule but you went out and got an experienced quarterback like Riley Leonard with the poise and everything that he showed to win this kind of game To not just be able to go 10 and 2 but to legitimately have the chance to go 12 and 0 and then not just get to the college football playoff but win some playoff games once you get there with a guy like Riley Leonard That's why you go out and you get him it's funny because you know like we've been talking about national guys and stuff like that and I won't say the name because I can't remember exactly which one said it but I heard someone say yesterday Why didn't Riley right you know why wasn't Riley Leonard already playing for Notre Dame like you look at the name and you look at the you know the way this kid looks and the way he plays and all this stuff That was like a natural Notre Dame fit well could you imagine if Brian Kelly had recruited you know this what two and a half star quarterback out of Alabama who was a basketball player to come to Notre Dame you're like out of high school Could you imagine that? No he obviously and Sam Hartman was the same way like with their play at these smaller programs they turned themselves into you know better than what their recruiting ranking was coming out of high school And obviously there's still a ton of upside for a guy like Leonard because you know again he was he was going to be a basketball guy coming out of high school he gets an opportunity to go to Duke and he's played himself into what he is right now He hasn't come anywhere close to seeing his ceiling so far Alright so I'm going to finish this off with something you know speaking of polarizing that oh boy I didn't think you were going to get to this one Make the fan base happy tonight so on ESPN's get up and I saw this last week obviously since I don't have a ESPN on my TV provider right now I think that's general manager Mike Tannenbaum said he thinks there's a better chance that Shadur Sanders is the Dallas Cowboys quarterback next year than Dak Prescott And so Mike Greenberg said hold my beer he says he thinks there's a better chance that Dion Sanders is in Dallas next year than either of them So what do you think about all this hot hot takeery coming out? I think they all had about five or six beers before going on this get up show because this is all a blast for me I had a little tag I'd throw it. It's horrible. Let me just say it like this. I think Dak's going to have a really good year Jerry Jones is going to do the old Jerry Jones trick and he's going to wait to the last second And he's going to give Dak an extension for more money than he than he should if he just did it earlier probably could have saved himself some money right and the long haul I mean it's just if those things actually happen. I think Dallas will melt down. I think like the entire city would melt it I think that's a good idea. I think he's going to have to go 500 in college before like he's going to get an NFL job. I mean come on, like Sloppy Joe. Great point. It's incredible people think that Dion's a great coach like what has he shown fundamentally just like look at how Colorado looked the other night He's going to fly in the NFL and you can remove whatever team that you think it is that it's just like again it just an insane hot take that he would that he would even you know hint that like Dion Sanders has some chance of becoming the head coach You know like even the Shader Sanders thing like the Cowboys or whatever team ends up drafting should do or I mean he's going to go at the top of the draft like so like is Dallas going to win four games this year I know a lot of people think they're not going back to the playoffs and you know whatever you're entitled to your own opinion but do you think that they're going to fall off that badly that they're going to have a chance to draft that high in the draft because they're not giving up draft capital that's not what you know to trade up that's not what Jerry Jones does exactly and they've already put in they put in some assets into Trey Lance as well you know they gave up a draft pick for him they let him basically play the entire preseason I think they are more invested in developing Trey Lance at this point than they are drafting a quarterback and developing along that route I think you know Trey Lance is he still very young and have a lot to go and you know very moldable and still sure but you can't tell me there's that much of a difference between Shader and Trey Lance right now right and and again Trey Lance has been in the system for a while they developed him they gave up a draft pick for him next year the quarterback depth chart will be as follows Dak won Trey Lance to and we won't have to talk about this anymore but we'll take everybody happy if we don't have to but there's a reason we saved it for the end of the show tonight Jess great whiteboard once again knocked it out of the park good job if you didn't see the whiteboard go back check it out a lot of good stuff a lot of good stuff we'll have we're going to kind of shift gears Brian has got a show coming up gosh it's already about a quarter till seven he's got his show coming up at seven o'clock Brian Driscoll I don't know exactly what it's called let me see if I can see what it's called does it matter I mean you're going to find it Notre Dame football still plenty to prove Northern Illinois preview so Brian is going to be previewing Northern Illinois coming up here in just a few minutes so much Karen and everybody else who has been here tonight so hit the like button before you leave and of course subscribe at our podcast platform if you don't already and give us a rating we will see you all later have a good one we will talk to you tomorrow today's news more stuff so what's going on? so what's going on? so what's going on? so what's going on? 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