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Give it a try at mintmobile.com/switch. $45 up from payment equivalent to $15 per month. New customers on first three-month plan only, taxes and fees extra. Speed slower above 40 gigabytes of detail. [MUSIC] Ivy Nation Sports Talk up and rolling on this Tuesday. Welcome to the show. He's Jesse Stiers. I'm Sean Stiers. Mr. Brian Driscoll will be along in a couple of hours here, right on this very channel. And he'll be doing a little show of his own a little bit later on, but we're going to take you until then. I think we're the first show of the day on Irish Breakdown, because Brian's been getting a lot of Northern Illinois stuff ready from what I understand, Jess. So, I mean, let's be honest, you know, like you open up impressive. You have to keep the standard. And that's kind of where it is, I think, with the whiteboard. Salty says, for the record, your whiteboard on the 505 defense was shown to be top quality in the game. Two of 11 on third down, two conversions. The great one, Andre, very complimentary on the ex-platform. Says whiteboard paid off for him big time because he saw somebody plays that A&M ran. Are you ready to live up to the standard that you have set in week one? I am, and I have six boards that I'm going to try to get through today. Three on defense, three on offense. Some of the most pivotal kind of plays. Well, defensively, I wouldn't say pivotal, but it'll kind of play into some of the stuff that we're going to talk about or that we hear from Marcus Freeman. Offensively, I would say, you know, outside of the big runs, and we'll get into those runs as well. We're going to talk about kind of the plays that set up those runs. So, that's kind of what I'm looking at, offense. Excellent. Glad Nihilist is here, he said he had to wait this long for another podcast. Now he has to wait even longer. The wait is over, Nihilist. We're here, we've got a lot to talk about today. DK, mentioning your haircut, I thought you looked a little different. Is it just slick back or did you get that kind of? No, I'm all trimmed up on the sides in the back. I have engagement photos in like three weeks, so I was just getting my haircut ready. I got the haircut now. It was really long. It's gray back out. Yeah, I had like, I felt like I was back in high school almost. I had like the hair flip going in the back with that, with all my hat. So, I put the hat on and then my hair was kind of curling up in the back. I was getting really long and shaggy on the side. So, just had to get it all cleaned up. I appreciate you noticing though, DK. Always there with the observation. So, we didn't get to a lot of Marcus Freeman's comments yesterday. We were just kind of going with the flow, talked about a lot on yesterday's show. We got to some of his comments, but we're going to start today with a few of them. Again, we heard a little bit yesterday. I wanted to kind of put some finishing touches on Texas A&M today, and that'll be some of what the whiteboard is dealing with. And by the way, do please hit that like button and of course subscribe on your podcast platforms and rate us and review us and all that good stuff. But, you know, as I said, Brian will kind of take the official handoff and transition into Northern Illinois later tonight, when he does his live show at seven o'clock. But Notre Dame goes on the road, beat a good Texas A&M team. Now, they return home to face Northern Illinois, and Marcus Freeman knows that they've got to build off what they started last week. I can't let the emotions of a victory or defeat affect the way you evaluate what you need to do to improve, and we have to believe that our preparation is the key to us having success on Saturdays, and that's what we'll continue to rely on is that, hey, let's evaluate the film, really understand and own the mistakes that we've made as coaches and players, and then come up with a process to fix it and go attack it on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday, and then we get a chance to go out and play on Saturday. So we have to prepare and we have to have a critical eye. So Jess, I heard Nick Saban say recently that he liked to play tougher opponents to start off the season so that he finds out more about his team, right? So and also because it avoids complacency from his team, right? But isn't that kind of what this week is about now coming off that big high against Texas A&M? And now, let's be quite honest, you have to avoid some complacency coming home against Northern Illinois this week. Yeah, this is a big week for Notre Dame. I think that, yeah, the biggest thing that you have to do, you know, if you're going to be a good team is you have to sustain excellence no matter if you're on the road against Texas A&M, or if you're, you know, coming back home for your home opener against Northern Illinois, you have to have the same preparation, the same intensity. And let's face it, Notre Dame wasn't perfect against Texas A&M. There's a lot of things that they can still clean up on both sides of the ball. You know, defensively, you know, the biggest thing I noticed was, you know, the jumping off sides. And not only that, but the jumping also leads to kind of a more, you know, complacent mindset in terms of you kind of wait in an extra second to make sure the ball is snapped, right? You're not getting off as quickly as you can. So I think that's something that can be cleaned up and offensively too. And this will naturally take care of itself, because they're not going to be playing in such a loud, you know, jam-packed environment with the, you know, the bad snaps here and there, the holding penalties, the fall starts again. A lot of that will be cleaned up just by being able to come back home, but there's still a lot to build off of. And again, I still think that the message of the week has to be executing at a high level, no matter, you know, who your opponent is. Yeah, and I feel like, you know, like you're not going, you're going to come into Notre Dame Stadium and you're just not going to have anywhere near the same atmosphere that you had last week at Texas A&M because it's Notre Dame and Texas A&M like everyone was wound up last week, Texas A&M fans were wound up to have Notre Dame down there last week. I mean, Notre Dame fans aren't going to be wound up to have Northern Illinois. I don't know how many Northern Illinois fans are going to be here. I've got a feeling it'll be pretty minimal. But it's just, you know, like, we'll go ahead and get to it. The emotion aspect of it. And we'll talk about those penalties that you touched on here in just a second because, you know, we touched on this a little bit yesterday, but Marcus Freeman really fired up, you know, did a good job of firing his team up in the tunnel before they came out. He was fired up after the game as well, pretty emotional hug at his wife and, you know, just all different kinds of stuff. Yeah, it was intentional, you know, it was a couple of different reasons, but, you know, I remember as we came out, you know, I'm looking, I'm looking at Anthony Knapp and looking at Sam Pendleton and, you know, it's their first time, their freshman and they're playing in this big environment and it's almost like you go into parent mode and you want to take that pressure off of them, like, put it on me. Let's go, man. Like, let's go. This is what we talked about. And I remember in that moment saying, like, we're right here. This is what we showed you in the meeting, like, this is what we just talked about, right? Like, this is, we've been here. That's what I told them, like, we've been here. We know exactly where we're at because that's what I want them to feel when we go through that during the week of preparation of showing them where we're going. This is what the crowd's going to be like, we've been here. And so I wanted to take a little bit of that pressure off of them. I want them to have that mentality of, like, let's go, man. Like, let's go, we're competitors. And I didn't want them to have any fear. And so it was intentional why I did that. I thought that's what they needed at that moment, obviously, I'm not always like that. But it wasn't just that, oh, man, I'm jacked up. I'm ready to go. It was like, okay, you know, sometimes, like as a parent or a coach, you said, all right, like, I'm with you. Like, don't, you don't fear, right? Have as much confidence in yourself that we have in you. Let's go, we're doing this thing together and my wife sent me that video. Yeah, I was probably a little bit out of control, but it was, it was, it was what was needed at the time, I felt. Prize picks is America's number one daily fantasy sports app with over five million active members. Prize picks is the easiest and most exciting way to play daily fantasy sports. Unlike other apps on prize picks, it's just you against the numbers. All you do is pick more or less on two to six player stat projections and watch the winnings roll in. Get in on the daily action with your friends and become part of the prize picks community today. You can now win up to a hundred times your money on prize picks with as little as four correct picks. You can turn $10 into a thousand dollars. 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For a whole new way to nug, it's gotta be Wendy's at participating US Wendy's. I mean he was wound up, it made me think a little bit, remember that SARC video from a year or two ago, when the tunnel guy with the headset, he puts his hand on Sarkisian and he's telling him something and so he swipes it away and he starts yelling at the guy. Now obviously Marcus Freeman didn't do that, complete opposite actually because Freeman is there, very demonstrative, all the stuff that he's talking about with his team and that official told him something and then Freeman kind of stopped and he's like, "Okay," and you can see him go, "Thank you for the information," then he's got a right back at it. Firing him up, a lot of people really wanted to see, have wanted to see a more animated fired up Marcus Freeman and they obviously got it. What did you think of all that? I thought it was a tremendous moment because what Marcus Freeman did there to start this season off, is he knows that he's got a young offensive line. He knows that they're walking into a hostile environment, right? But what he does in that moment, rather than letting those guys get fearful or let the kind of nerves take over in that moment, he gets amped up with them to kind of say, "I have your back. I have your back in this situation. If you follow me, let those nerves go. If you follow me, I promise it'll all take care of itself because I believe in you. I trust in you, and that's going to go a longer way than you being nervous in this game. Yes, you're going to make mistakes, but you've got to stay in the moment." That's to me what that moment is about. He even basically said it like, "That's not who he is every single game or every single moment." But in that moment, he knew that that's what those young guys needed. He needed to take that weight off of their shoulders to let those doubts leave their mind and just to follow their head coach onto the field and really to start their college career. These are guys that were making their first starts. It's what everyone talked about during the week. It's why everyone picked Texas A&M in the pregame. They basically said, "This young offensive line can't handle the pressure. They can't handle this good defensive line. They can't handle being on the road. They can't handle this environment." Marcus Freeman knew that, and he did everything possible to kind of steer away from that. How can I distract them from everything else that's going on? Let me just get fired up in this moment and let them lead it and let them know that I'm with you. We're together. This isn't a you thing. This is a we thing. Let them know that with them standing right there, like he said, they were the first ones right behind him coming out of the tunnel. And I love not to interrupt, but I love that that's how he had them walk out. He had the starting offensive line up front leading them onto the field. I really like that. I thought that was super symbolic. Symbolic. Symbolic. Symbolic. Symbolic. You almost had it there. I think it's symbolic because again, where did this game lie, whether or not the offensive line was going to do enough to win the game? Absolutely. Andrew says proud of Freeman. Such a fun win. Proud of the offensive line as well. I don't know about you, when you're watching that game, you and Vince and I were texting and they went up, Notre Dame went up by, what was it? I guess they went up by the touchdown. So they're up by, yeah, and I said, look, they score another touchdown. I think this game. Oh, he's over. Now, Texas A&M goes down and ties the game. And so maybe I'm feeling a little bit different, but that's exactly still the way it turned out. Notre Dame scored that touchdown game was over. At that point, defense obviously finished it off, but you could see both in that moment and at the end, you know, when Freeman's like, I told you so, I told, you know, like, he was filling their heads with positive information, you know, it wasn't just a bunch of rah-rah stuff and, you know, a coach that relates so well to the players, like, in that moment, I think he had to find the right buttons to push. And that's what those guys needed, obviously, was to have it pushed in that fashion, just to remind them that he was there, they were all in that thing together and they were prepared for the moment. And that's ultimately how it played out. They were obviously more than prepared for the moment. And that's what impressed me the most because I went back and, you know, like you said, were there, were there some plays here and there? Sure. Sure, there were. But like I watched most of the first half today and my focus when I was watching the offensive plays was just what the offensive line was doing. When I was watching the defense, I was mostly kind of watching the linebackers and we're going to get to some of this in your whiteboard, Jess. But I was impressed that for, you know, like the offensive line, you know, like if I was giving them a grade in the first half, I'd be in the B+ range. I think they were given Riley Leonard good pockets. Now, they weren't always getting great push at the line of scrimmage in the run games, but they were at least occupying their guys. I felt like some of it, like the running backs had to do a little bit better of reading the blocks. Like maybe they were a little bit, you know, too amped up in terms of where they needed to be and stuff like that. But it just never looked like, and then as the game went on, I didn't even mention this yesterday, Dan Orlowski, your boy, he tweeted the Notre Dame offensive line in the second half he said has been big time. And I mean, they can't, you know, they came to play throughout, but when they needed them the most, they really stepped up in that second half. Like they imposed their will on what was supposed to be a better unit, opposite of them in Texas A&M on the road and wore them down and made the place when they needed to make them. Yeah, a couple of things about the offensive line. Did they, you know, did they start off a little slow? Was there a couple of mental mistakes, couple, you know, physical breakdowns? Sure. But they never, I think the most important and impressive thing that came from that is they didn't let the previous play affect the next play. They were able to just wash it away and say, you know what? That play is over with. Let's move on. Let's have a great play this play. And then, you know, what I was kind of telling you after the game, to be honest with you, the offensive line is what won that game in the fourth quarter. Notre Dame's offensive line was better than Texas A&M's defensive line. I mean, among other things, yeah, they had, you know, Notre Dame had some good runs, but they were more prepared for that situation physically, mentally, strength and conditioning. I even told you that, you know, a lot of Texas A&M players were getting hurt going down with cramps. I mean, you saw Wigman throw up on himself, like Notre Dame was the better conditioned team throughout, you know, they never pulled his, do you remember when Donovan McNabb threw up in the Super Bowl? Do you remember any chance? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They'll pull the, pull the Donovan McNabb in that situation. But they were just the, the more conditioned team and they, they imposed their will on that final touchdown drive, you know, that in the fourth quarter. And to me, that was the ultimate difference makers. There was a lot of questions and yeah, they stumbled early, but when the game was on the line, that offensive line stepped up as a unit and got the job done. And that was the difference maker in the game. By the way, D-Troll Hunter says you look unhinged today. I just got so much whiteboard to get to. You just like, you're like, this is all the appetizer right now. You're just like, let's get to this whiteboard. Well, and it's, it also stinks because Vince gets the Monday show and I feel like that's the day where you really like the money show. Yeah. It's like you get your kind of final, you know, thoughts, breakdown analysis on the Texas A&M when by the time we're getting to Tuesday, it's like, all right, let's wrap it up and let's get into Northern Illinois here a little bit. That's why we're continuing it into today. I felt like there were plenty more things that we didn't even get to yesterday because like we weren't we, you know, basically we started off yesterday. You probably haven't listened, but we started off kind of teeing off on this national narrative about, you know, what Notre Dame is or isn't just a lot of the things that we touched on in the countdown to kickoff show last week, Jesse, about the fact that, that it, it felt like Joel Klatt being the notable exception. He's the only one that I heard say this in advance of the game like that Notre Dame's defense was going to be a factor in this game. And you know, he's, he's like been on this, this Notre Dame defense, you know, at the very least since last week when he was talking about a big, big difference for most of most everybody else though. It's like most everybody else only discovered that Notre Dame had an elite defense Saturday night when they were taken on Texas A&M. It's like, I mean, I think the broadcast like, you know, like Fowler was mentioning it late in the game, but it, it felt to me like, you know, maybe, you know, somebody opened up Twitter and showed him, you know, the like people were saying that it was an elite defense because it felt like they discovered it as the game went on to me. And I guess it's just annoying because it's, you know, it was the strong point of the game. It was going to be the anchor that ended up, you know, winning this thing for Notre Dame. And I guess it took, you know, Wigman going for two interceptions and only a hundred passing yards and a singular touchdown, right? Like Xavier Watts, the guy who led the, the nation of interception had an incredible interception where he basically ran the route for the receiver, undercut it. Everyone talks about, you know, the, the other interception, you know, yeah, Wigman had pressure in his face and he overthrew it. But Schuller still has a choice in that, in that situation. He's the high safety. He can break one way or break the other. He read his eyes the entire entire time and he was in the right spot for the overthrow. He just, it, yes, it was a bad throw, but he still had to be there and he was and he got the interception. So I mean, we can, I know that's why, you know, like I asked Marcus Freeman about Schuller yesterday and like he, he just looks watching him play. I'm sure that his teaching and being in the system and all those things matter, but he feels a lot like Xavier, Xavier Watts to me with the instinct that he has, like knowing, knowing where the ball is going to be, you know, like he, he just knows where the ball is going to be. Yeah. And to be honest with you, I mean, I feel like we could do an entire show about noted, the way Notre Dame's defense gave, you know, fits to Texas A&M. I mean, I feel like that's on you, you know, like, I mean, we want to have time though, you could maybe like a three hour show, just going play by play, just the ins and outs of Al Golden's defense and how truly elite it is. Like it, it is, he, he does very high level stuff. And I think what's even more impressive is that he's doing it with a core of young guys as well. You know, the young linebackers, Schuller being a first time starter in the safety, those corners are still relatively young. These guys can grasp these high level concepts and still play fast at the same time. So just to kind of put a finishing touch on the emotion conversation, you know, because the way the schedule goes now, you've got Northern Illinois, you've got Purdue, you've got Miami, Ohio, you know, probably some up for Louisville, but it's still, still Louisville. I'm, I'm sure last year's game is, is going to factor in some motivation and stuff like that. But, you know, like, you don't want a bunch of phony raw raw stuff from, from Marcus Freeman. But what do you need from the head coach to make sure that his team is also up for those games and not just up for the big games like the other night? To me, it's just how you practice throughout the week. I think you have to have a certain mentality and intensity that again, you, you're going to treat every game like it is Texas A&M, right? Like, it's almost like it's a faceless opponent. We prepare ourselves the same way every week. And we just show up and get off the bus and play whoever's in front of us, essentially. It doesn't matter if it's Texas A&M, USC, Northern Illinois, you know, Georgia Tech. Again, to me, the way you approach it is the opponent is, is nameless or faceless. You just show up, you practice hard the same every week, you get better, you fix your mistakes from the last week and you bring that same intensity every week and everything else will take care of itself. DJ saying that Joel Clatt and Bill Bender were in on the Irish defense apparently and we did touch on this a little bit yesterday. Josh Pates, still not a believer in the elite. There's not an elite position group at Notre Dame, according to Josh, really, he actually said that. That's, that's a pretty, I guess the secondary wasn't enough. I know, I know, I know, I know, I was just, I was just writing down a rapid fire question for, for later this week, I'll have to get back to that here in just a second. Let's, let's talk about those penalties a little bit, 11 for 99 yards, basically the low point in the game against Texas A&M almost double what the Aggies had. So the question, how easy are those penalties to clean up? Easy, you know, no, it's not easy at all, but we have to, to practice it, we have to drill it. It's the lack of focus penalties that are the ones that you get, you know, frustrated on. You got to see the ball snapped if you're on defense, right? You can't jump off sides and it's easy for me to say that, but we got to continue to drill that in practice over and over and over. That, you know, two pre-snapped penalties on offense that we got to clean up. And so those are the ones that you can't accept. There's some other ones that, you know, is it a holding, is it not all those different things? Like that's football, you're never going to be perfect, but the pre-snapped lack of focus penalties are the ones that we have to clean up and really continue to attack in practice. Yeah. Have you seen everyone penalties, you know, especially the mental ones like he's talking up, they did clean it up as the game went on, like you didn't see the defensive line jumping, you know, the way they were on those first couple of drives. Like, can you live with those early jumps last week as long as they don't show up now as a repeating pattern this upcoming week? Yeah. I think that, like, like Marcus, you mentioned the pre-snapped penalties, those are the ones that drive you crazy as a head coach, right? Like, Florida State had that illegal motion, I think, on a third and one, goes to third and six, and then their drive gets killed because of, you know, again, a pre-snapped penalty, a wide receiver not coming set. I can live with them in the first quarter on the road against, you know, a team like Texas A&M and what's considered the most, you know, hostile environment in the country considering you have a young offensive line, but much more after that, there's really no excuse. Again, to kind of reiterate what Marcus Freeman was saying, like, you can't, I remember our coach getting the most mad about two penalties, pre-snapped penalties and unsportsman-like penalties, because those are the ones that you can control. You can control your emotion. You can control, you know, the kind of the, like you said, seeing the ball, whether you're on the offensive line or the defensive line, you just got to watch the ball and it's funny because that's literally a drill that you do as a defensive line at practice. You sit there and then, you know, the defensive line coach has a ball and a stick and he just, you know, moves it. And that's your job. Watch the ball. You're not listening. Literally. You're not doing anything besides watching the ball and going off, you know, first movement essentially. So I do think that Notre Dame got lucky with, you know, Bo Collins not getting an unsportsman-like penalty when he caught that kind of fade route in the fourth corner of that ball that Ryan Leonard threw up to him. And again, there was, were some of those penalties maybe inflated? Sure. Like they call the holding on nap when he was the backside tackle on a screen that's going away from him. You're telling me that he got enough to hold someone in the two seconds it took for Ryan Leonard to, you know, basically get the ball and throw it out on a screen route? Like, come on. What are we talking about? And again, I'm always biased towards the penalties. I was texting you and Vince that I always, you know, get caught up in the game, but there's just a couple that were kind of ticky tack that went, you know, that didn't really seem to kind of go both ways. But the pre snap penalties are for sure the ones that are that need to need to be cleaned up. I don't remember when exactly they changed the rule on the defense because I mean, it used to be as a defensive lineman or defensive player, you could jump into the neutral zone, but as long as you didn't touch anybody, you could come back and it wasn't a penalty. But now as soon as you jump into the neutral zone, it's a penalty. I was going to bring this up as well. When you were still playing, was it like that? Do you remember exactly when it changed? You don't, I don't know when it changed because I was thinking the same thing is like, basically if you're an offensive lineman for the other team and you see someone come cross, all you have to do is move and you're going to get the penalty. Yeah. And so like, I, that's what was making me furious too is like, I thought as long as you got back, it didn't necessarily matter, right? And so I don't know. I don't know when that rule changed. It's been like that for a few years. I just can't remember when they changed it. It's, it's, I don't, I don't like it at all. Like it, like if you're not touching an offensive player when you come into the neutral, I don't understand why that should be a penalty. It's essentially a false start on the defense, which, you know, never used to be a thing, you know, like literally for, for decades, that's how it was, but it's only been within the last few years that they changed it. Yeah. If the, if the offensive lineman moves, they say it's induced, but again, like why you're not touching them, you know, because you used to be able to, as a defensive player, you could jump all over the place and including in the neutral zone and it wasn't a penalty. You know, so now all you, like you said, all you have to do as an offensive player, when a defensive player jumps, used to be the ball had to be snapped, but now all an offensive lineman has to do is move when a defensive player jumps and it's a penalty. I think it's stupid. I think it's funny though that Texas A&M at one point was kind of relying on it and wingman just threw that ball up and they're like, uh, actually buddy, you know, that wasn't, for once that wasn't an off size and it was on a third down, I'm pretty sure. And you just kind of threw the ball up and it, it killed one of their drives, but I, it's just, it's dumb because you know, there's already a lot kind of going on, right? 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We were going to go for it and right around that 50-yard line two was a go and made the decision go for it and we were 50%. We would like to be 100% but I wanted to be aggressive in that game. I said listen we have to be aggressive. Me as in some of those decisions I wanted to be aggressive. I'm asking these guys to be aggressive in attacking. I just didn't want to be cautious in that moment of the game and there was a comfort in knowing that our defense I felt strongly about our defense too. All those things go into consideration before the game when you make these type of decisions. I had a plan going in to go forward in those situations but the defense, knowing what your defense is going to do goes into consideration for sure. What did you think about it? Fourth and one right out of the gate start the second half they go for it two different times from their own 33 the first time. Were you a little nervous? So first thought was wow we're really doing this. But then second thought was it brought me back to my boy Dan Campbell. This is what he's notorious for doing with the Lions and personally in the moment I felt very like with a lot riding on the game you're just like okay we're really about this at this point. That's kind of what Marcus Riemann talked about is his shift in mindset and always you know you have a plan going into the game but it never fully unravels how you expect it to. So I first and foremost like Marcus Riemann's willingness to adapt based on the kind of feedback that he's getting from the game and to me it's a I love the aggressiveness because it shows your team that you're you're playing to win the game right like we're not playing to lose at this point. We're playing to win the game and like he talks about with how good the defense was playing. It's just the ultimate sign of respect for his defense saying you know what even if we give you the ball and maybe plus territory or maybe at you know middle of the field the best you're going to get as a field goal at that. And so again it's just a major you know confidence boost for your entire team. And again I think it sets the tone for the second half of guys. We're no longer just here and in this thing we're going to go out and win this year to win. And I think that puts a mindset in the player's minds that okay again similar to what he did at the beginning of the game coming out of the tunnel that to me was the same kind of moment to start the second half coming out of the tunnel is I have your back we're in this thing together and we're going to go win this game. Anthony says the other side or disrespect to the opposing offense maybe so but their job is do something about it and they couldn't do anything about it whether they were disrespected or not and he's his defense held up and you know I think the end result like when you're talking about again going into that kind of environment hostile situation the whole thing ranked opponent on the road all these different things and you look at the tone you're trying to set not just for that game but for the rest of the season I think that I think it speaks pretty loudly you know just just about all of that but with the kind of confidence that he has and by the way thank you for the super chat Anthony appreciate it as always but yeah so I love it as well I love that they were willing you know just to go out there and have that kind of mentality and let's face it they didn't go 50% I mean we all saw I texted you guys before like as soon as they put the ball down I said that's a bad spot like when they put the ball on the ground and then they just it's not even look at it you're telling me that they got that thing reviewed in 30 seconds they looked at every single angle right I think the only argument that they have is maybe the Ford progression was stopped at some point but again I don't know how you can do that in a game like that knowing who's running the ball right it is when the play was live he was well you know like that still photo that you've seen where he's over the line like that was his initial surge that's where he got and then he got pushed back from there and you know like so bad with those spots in college replay what did I tell you guys in that text they never overturned spots they just don't they're just it's just bad it's a bad system they've got to get better at it you've got all this technology and all you're doing is letting everyone see how bad you are at your job you just got to be better that's just what it comes down to you know what solves this if you get rid of the Changang and put a freaking chip in the football like they're like they should be well you know the NFL tried it in the preseason and then they decided that they're not going to use it in the regular season did you see that I did see that which is also pretty sad a billion dollar industry and we can't use any technology that's right billions got all this technology they can use it at the US Open and the French soccer and yeah you can use it at all these other sports but these billion dollar industries can't get with the technology I agree Andrew Andrew or Leonard absolutely got the first down well let's let's roll into this we're going to do some whiteboard I'm going to play you this soundbite for Marcus Freeman first the defense rolled out the new look five-man linebacker rotation against the Aggies Jack Kaiser got the most snaps 57 of a possible 73 defensively he ended up leading the team with eight tackles Jalen Sneed second most snaps with 31 Drake Bowen had 30 Kingston Villiamo asa had 21 and Jaden Osbury had 17 I think that's a reflection of the belief we have in all five of those backers like any one at any time could be on the field and we're not bat an eye you know Kaiser's your captain Kaiser's your vocal leader but all of them can perform at the level that we believe they need to perform and you know Osbury he shoot man he played well he made a lot of plays and Kingston's out there as a freshman making plays Drake's playing well and Sneed's being Sneed all right he's he's doing some third down things but also doing well and based down and so Max has done a great job with those guys in that he has confidence it's five starters those are five starters and when you're playing with two at a time versus eleven personnel sets like you've got to be intentional about rolling them in the game and you can't be emotional you have to be intentional about who's going in in this series and I thought everybody in that linebacker room performed well absolutely and I'll tell you what Jalen Sneed just look comfortable out there to me like he didn't look like he was trying to figure out where he was supposed to be which we've seen from him in the past and Sloppy Joe said he played three different positions they the trust they have in him is immense and I think it's pretty obvious you know by the way it looked I thought he looked really good that's the best we've ever seen I think from Jalen Sneed I mean to kind of build off of that that was the most impressive part to me is that you know KVA was playing two different linebacker spots Sneed was playing at least two to three different linebacker spots Bowen kind of primarily Bowen and Kaiser kind of primarily play within the same kind of position but Osbury as well will play one to two so like these guys have versatility they're not stuck to one role and we've talked about that before where if you can play multiple positions you just have a better understanding of the defense and if you have a better understanding of the defense you play fast and free and that's exactly what Jalen Sneed looked like he was doing against Texas A&M is just playing fast and free and going off his instincts and not you know so much worried about alignment and you know where he has to be because that's not all taking care he knows this defense I think he just has the biggest thing he did this offseason was get a better understanding of the defense I think that's what's paid off the most for him. 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