[MUSIC] >> Yo, yo. Hello, hello, hello, Bronco Billy, right in his Bronco. >> It's killing it, killed nine kills, nine present tense, killed it. >> Yeah, let's jump right into that. So, Jeff Browning, better known as Bronco Billy, he's had quite a year. >> Yeah. >> Second at COVIDona 250, what was his place at Highlones, you can't remember. But anyways, his latest accomplishment, which he just finished up a couple days ago, is he set the Colorado Trail, FKT, and the route that he set was West to East, going collegiate West. So, there's really six different ways you can go as we explained in the last episode. You can go West to East, which you're basically starting in Durango, going to Denver, or you can go East to West, which is Durango, or Denver to Durango. And then there's two different ways you can go around the collegiate peaks, which is near like the Leadville area, the Mount Princeton and all that. So, yeah, he went West to East, collegiate West, and he did it in seven days. And nine hours and 35 minutes beating Nick Padatella who had that route, FKT. And this is supported, by the way, because there's, you know, he has supported, self-supported, unsported. Nick did it in seven days, 17 hours. So, you know, he beat him by like eight hours. And you know that Bronco Billy just probably killed himself out there, just like stick the plan, press hard, and yeah, you got it done. And he looked good doing it. Like, I haven't listened to all of his post-race interview with Jam Jam yet, but, you know, every video I saw of him, he looked good. Like, he was eating, and eating well, and running well. Yeah, quite an accomplishment. That's 500 miles and about 90,000 feet of climbing, so. >> Five 50. >> Oh, five, oh, if you go collegiate West, yeah, five 50. >> Yeah, it is nuts. >> Yeah, and to do that in less, you know, like a little over seven days, that's insane with all that climbing through all those mountains. >> Yeah. >> And yeah, just really incredible accomplishment. You know, here's him finishing. You can kind of tell when he does finish that, when he does touch the sign, that he's just about ready to collapse. >> Yeah. >> But, but yeah, he got it done. And it's the second fastest overall time on the Colorado Trail, which that was set by Kyle Curtain earlier this year. And Kyle went from East to West. And that was six days. >> So, has it not updated, it has the FKT page not updated then? >> They have to verify it first. >> Yeah. >> And then they'll update it. >> Yeah. >> Kyle Curtain went East to West with collegiate West route. And he did it in six days and 15 hours. So, he holds the overall FKT and Bronco Billy's second, no? >> There's all kinds of people who've done West East, collegiate East. Like there's four folks on the supported, you know what I mean? I got one, seems like it's like. >> Yeah, Michael McKnight. >> Yeah, yeah. >> And this FKT route has been going on for years. Like, if you read some of this stuff, a summary of supported FKT progression for the full Colorado Trail. You know, they got like 1988 Dale Garland, he's a race director of Hard Rock. >> Yeah. >> And looks like he did it with three other guys, Dave Leframboy and John Mcaward. And John Wilgammah, some fun names. Buzz Burrell, he writes for Ultra Running Magazine. I think he does their podcast too. Or he used to do their podcast. He did it in 1999, 11 days. >> What? >> It's quite a list. >> Yeah. It's really interesting to look at like the different, like you said, there's four different ways to go, right? Like there's, whether you go West to East or East to West or two for each, right? There's four. It's interesting to kind of look and try to like figure out which way is like the harder way. I mean, there's some of them, I think, what is it? Like they're at the East to West, collegiate East. Dude, the times on that one are absolutely insane. Eight days, 13 hours, nine days, 10 hours, 11 days, 16 hours on that one. Like it is brutal, dude. >> Yeah. >> So, I mean, some of them are just, but then there's also ones that just sound like it was just a good old time. There is one to West East, collegiate East. It is Dave Garland, Dave Leframboi, John McCard, and John Wilgabot. >> Yeah. >> Like those dudes are just out there on like a, like a long hike essentially. You know what I mean? >> They were. >> They were the first, they were the first ones to register like, >> Way back in the day. >> FKT website. And, you know, they did that in 1988. >> Yeah. >> I mean, FKT websites fairly new, but they, they submitted their, their time from 1988. And I've heard Dale Garland on podcast talk about that and they, they hiked it. >> Yeah. Yeah. That'd be awesome. Right? Just like out there doing like a, you know, slightly faster than like a, like a speed hike. You know what I mean? >> Yeah. Like fast packing. >> Yeah. Like a fast pack. Yeah. That'd be like, could you imagine being out there for 17 days for like, you and your three dudes, you know, like. >> That'd be fun. >> That'd be fucking awesome. >> Yeah. A friend of mine hiked the Colorado trail. Yeah. He, he said it was great. Um, but yeah. So Bronco Billy, he does it. He did it for charity. Um, and yeah, sleep deprived. Mind has depleted. Uh, he hasn't processed the whole event. It was so hard. Um, working on submitting his files. So yeah. He has to submit all his data to the FKT website. And, uh. Well, he was what like, he was eight hours, eight hours faster. Eight hours faster than the previous record on that route. Yeah. And second overall fastest time. Both fastest times were set this year. Kyle Kerden and Jeff Browning. So that is really cool. Congrats to Bronco. Uh, he, he is a legend. He is a legend. That guy, you know, he's, he's older than us. He's, he's in his late 40s, right? I mean, if he's in his late 40s, he may or may not be older than me. I think he is. Um, but he's just still just tearing it up. That is awesome. Yeah. Ricky. All right. Um, so there wasn't too many. Too many, uh, known races. That happened over the weekend. But we'll go ahead and do some race results for a few, for a few races. And I do want to start with a Oregon Cascades. I just found out about this race. It looks like a super cool one. That one is like that. We just had this conversation last week, didn't we? We did it. I didn't go that one to the Barbie. Right. Put it. Put another race on the bucket list. Yeah. Hey, here we go. I guess super cool. Yeah. And this, uh, takes place in bend, bend Oregon. Well, at least it starts in bend. Um, it's, it's a point to point hundred. And finishes in sisters. We didn't talk about this one last, last weekend. Then we are. I think you and I talked about it while after we had stopped. Oh, we were looking at races. Yeah. I had gone on to the calendar and I'd start like, I don't even more races. That's right. But this one looks cool because. If it's, if it starts in bending instant sisters, it goes north to south. Right. I think I had this to correct. Is it? I thought sisters, I'm pretty sure sisters is south of bend. I think I could obviously very clearly be wrong. But here's what I, I'm pretty sure I also saw as like on this one. You know, you, you get to enjoy. You get to enjoy, uh, a little of the PCT. I mean, this, it just looks like a really cool route. It looks like a really cool. So sisters is, is north. West of bend. Oh, is it? Yeah. Yeah. So here's the map. Well, let's. Let's see zoom in here. Yeah. So I'm guessing it goes out of bend and it goes up through this. National for. Yeah. This is, uh, there's about 10,000 feet of climbing, um, and 11,200 of loss. So it's, it's pretty close to the same amount of loss, maybe a little more loss. Um, but all the climbing's packed into the first, a lot of the climbing's packed into the first 100 K. And the bend side offers smooth flowing single track and the shadow of Mount Bachelorette. And then you drop into some rugged terrain as you begin your descent into sisters. And the course is 90% single track, 13 eight stations. You have 32 hours, one minute and 18 seconds to finish. Yeah. There's got to be a story there, right? Yeah. There's got to be a story like why, why that? Why that time? Like, I would love to know. Like, did somebody just, like, finish in a minute and 18 seconds late and they wanted to. Yeah. So they're like, yeah. Wouldn't it be kind of interesting? All right. So here's your race idea, right? Like, there will be people. This will, this will, this will go over like a wet bar for some people. Wouldn't it be kind of a fun slash interesting way to designate a racist. Cut off time. By what the previous years. Last finish or finished in. So are you counting people that, that have unofficial finishes as well? Yes. Yes. They finish after cut off. Yeah. Now, all right. So here's the interesting thing, right? Oh my God. See, here we go. Here's where my diabolical. Here's how you sucker people in the coming back. All right, Jamie. All right, Jamie. Here we go. We have a hundred byler, right? The, the cut off is 30 hours, right? Which I feel like it's the standard, like traditional cut off for a hundred. Yeah. It's 30 hours. Okay. You get your buckle, right? If you come in, if you still finish over to 30 hours, I'm going to go reverse old dominion. I'm going to give you a shitty gym bag, right? But, but I give you a shitty gym bag. And my last finisher over the time gets a shitty gym bag and a free entry into the next year's race. And they're finishing time becomes the new standard for last year. So listen, I gave you a free admission back in the next year. And I'm making next year's cut off time, the time you just did. So all you got to do is show up and be better than you were the year before. That's, that's a good marketing idea to get back. So, so do they still have to make the cut offs at the, the eight stations? I mean, you have volunteers out there, like. I mean, so yeah, we, we might. So yes, you still need to clear like a cut off. Like, I, and like maybe I'd make the cut offs like pretty far out, right? Like I'd make, I'd maybe make your cut off like a hundred K mark, right? Like your last one. Yeah. And then, you know, all right. Hey, listen, if you're in the eight station between hundred K and part of my other, you know, might be there for a minute, right? But I mean, but think about the funny part about that. But what that would do also now, here's where it gets. All right. If I'm willing to give, will I also move it up? And so what happens if no one, what if there is no unofficial finishers? Am I, my, my, my dead fucking last person finishing 29 hours and change? Is the new cut off next year, 29 hours and change? Oh, that, that's interesting. We might have to figure something out there. Yeah. I mean, that's kind of like a, like a last thing, like, you know, make, make some weird rule. Just effing with people. Just out here. Effing with people. That's what people have lotions. So Oregon Cascades. Yeah, friend of mine on Strava are from the Bay area here. He finished that, that race. But so this is interesting. Well, first place is Colton Gail, 14 hours and 36 minutes. He just tore that course down. Got late days. And then another runner. First place female is named anonymous runner. That's amazing. 16 hours and 39 minutes. Who is anonymous? Who are you anonymous runner? We need to know. That is awesome. That is awesome. You got to wonder if it's like an elite or a sub elite. That just wanted to. Okay. Listen, I just want to come out and run a core race. I don't want any fan. Yeah. Yeah. I'm man. I wish I knew. I wish I knew. That is amazing. If anybody knows who the anonymous runner. Yeah. Let us know. Well, I don't want to ruin the spirit of their wanting to be anonymous. So, but I don't know if it happens to leak. Let, let us have it. James Holt was second male, third overall 16 hours, 42 minutes. Nicholas cop, 17 hours, 40 minutes for third. Second female, Jacqueline, no shade, 17 hours, 51. Wait. I know who our winning woman was. You do? Yeah. Kimberly Nealey. It's on a, it's on the recap. There's a recap out. Oh, okay. Running magazine. Yeah. It's in there. I don't know why it should have like that on there, but it's Kimberly Nealey. Yep. And oh, by the way, oh, by the way, that breaks the previous course record by over three hours for women. Like, so she like, even when I saw the 1639 on, on the thing you're looking at. Yeah. I thought, damn, even that's kind of cooking. Yeah. I mean, like that's pretty fast. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is super fast. And second overall. So then third place female was Madeline known 18 hours, 42. So congrats to everybody in the under. They also have a 50 miler and Elise Langer strong took the women's experience. When with a female course record, eight hours and 34 minutes, Mika McCurdy was second, eight hours, 37 minutes. And then for the men, Todd Simpson, one with a course record, six hours, 58 minutes. Steven. It was a second seven hours, 58 minutes. So this race, I, I thought it was a newer race, but it's actually been going on since. So, I think it's going to be a little bit more. I think it's going to be a little bit more. I think it's going to be a little bit more. 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It's going to be a little bit more. It's going to be a little bit more. It's going to be a little bit more. Temperatures were over 90 throughout the day. First place male was German Garcia. 21 hours 29 minutes and Kelly Swanson. Actually, Kelly Swanson was the women's winner, but she was the overall winner as well. 21 hours and 16 minutes. Congrats to Kelly taking first overall. It's got to be hot. It goes back. It's a lot like that race that we talked about up in Illinois. A couple of weeks ago, right? Where it's so effing hot that even though it's pancake flat. Your winning time is 21 hours. It's 16 minutes. Yeah, no doubt. Another race that is interesting is Midwest States 100. Yeah, this looks cool too. I have a connection. I'm good. Yes. Midwest States, which is in the. Can you even pronounce that? Yeah, it's in Wisconsin. So now we have western states, eastern states. Midwest States. And I think isn't there a southern state say that they did or do we cover that? The closest thing I can come up with. It's hot. It's the closest I can come up with. Southern states 100. It's in March next year. Where's that at? It's in. It's on the pin Honi or pin Honi. It's in Georgia. Dave Springs, Georgia at the pin Honi trailhead 48 hour cut off. Damn. What's up. Yeah, we'll have to look. We'll look more at that. But for right now, Midwest States 100. You know, this is. I wonder how many years. I've never heard of it. So yeah, I've heard of this one. This is the third year. Looks like there was some pretty fast. Pretty fast times. First overall. Kyle. Calvus 14 hours and seven minute. Oh, wait, that was his pace. Never mind. It was not extremely fast. I think. Twenty three hours and 36 minutes. And then Matt McDonough. Second 24 hours and 46 minutes. And let's see. Looking for first place female. It was Kelly Gibson. And 26 hours and 53 minutes. Was Jen Krauss 31 hours and six minutes. So I wonder if that's. You know, maybe whether played a factor there too. Yeah, because it doesn't. I mean, I don't know. I don't know about this. Area of Wisconsin. Yeah. You go to the. I mean, it's really nice. Yeah, good to the race course tab. And you can scroll down. And it shows first off, it's not 100 miler. It's a one. It's a pretty close for a 105. Oh, yeah. Scroll down just so that's a cool logo. That's a dope logo. But scroll down just a smidge more. You can see that. There you go. There's your elevation change right there. So it's got, I mean, it's just like constant. That's only 200. So you have just, it's just a bro. Just constant rollers. Yeah, constant. Cause it looks like you're up 6700 feet of climb. That's. Oh, yeah. Cause as I say, say it's 50, 100, 50, 200. But still 6,000 feet of climb, right? Yeah, it's it's nothing. Yeah, it's just constant. It's just this number. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's interesting. Yep. So that's the eastern states. I wonder if they, if they'll start like a series, like if you do, if you do western states, eastern states. Midwest states, southern states, all in the same year. But then, but then you got to, but then, you know, like you didn't, you got to get the new England states. Like. Well, that's the eastern states. Oh, man. Like you're leaving. Then you're leaving out places like Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine. It's still east. That's it. Northeast. You get some gnarly trails in up there. Yeah. I'm sure eastern states is pretty gnarly, but. The hardest would be the hardest transition would be eastern states. To Midwest states, just because they're only like. Two weeks apart. Yeah, two to three weeks. Yeah. But southern states is in March. So you'd have plenty of time between that and western states and you have, you would have to get in the western states. So. I think. Yeah. It could be a new grand slam that they could put on though. Yeah, that would be a cool one. There's a video here of the myth. From 2020. That's squat country up in there too. Yeah. Oh, you got road. Oh, man. You can cook. It's looks like it's overcast when they did this one. Yeah. Oh, look. Hey, there's a little bit of rain on the lens. That trail looks pretty nice. It does look nice. Oh, it's real nice. Some more road. Oh, that's nice big like fire brake road too. You know, I mean, I can't. Yeah. And it was smooth. Yeah. Yeah. Well, this reminds me a lot. A lot of like Mohican style train. Just a little less roots, a little less rocks, but yeah. Right. Yeah. No, that's some classic Midwest trails for sure. So. All right. Let's jump into UTMB. Man, I just can't believe how loaded UTMB is. It's. Yeah. It's crazy. Okay, so first, let's, let's talk about CCC, which is there the hundred K, which starts in about, I think, four hours from now. Yeah. And CCC. Is CCC starts in the morning over there. You know, UTMB starts at like six in the evening. But CCC starts in the morning. So Friday morning, UTMB Friday morning, our time. UTMB will, will be underway. So good luck getting any work, work done Friday. No, I'm just kidding. Anybody that I work with is out there. Maybe not. Yes. Yes, I'm kidding. No. So anyway, let's see. Oh, Adam Peterman is running. Yeah. Yeah. And Peter, and he won the Eiger Trail this year. Manuel Marius, one OCC two years ago. Also, uh, Hayden Hawks is running. So that's interesting. And Daniel Jones, the, the Kiwi, these guys are all having great, great years. You know, Adam Peterman's coming back from his, his injury. So it should be pretty cool. And the women's race, Tony McCann, she won OCC last year. And Heather Jackson, who did really well. Black Canyon. Oh, is that right? Other Jackson. Yeah. I think she, I think she did really well at Black Canyon. If I'm not mistaken. She's a former pro Ironman triathlete and elite gravel biker. Oh. Yeah. So. Other notable competitors, Rosanna Boucher, Germany, Candace Burton from France. Um. Yeah. So it should be interesting. OCC. So if you, uh, if you can't sleep at night, go ahead. On the OCC live stream should be pretty cool. I'm looking forward to seeing what eight knocks can do after a pretty great Western states. Yeah. There's a lot of Western states, UTMB. I didn't mean to close that. There's a lot of great Western states and UTMB doubles this year. Um, okay, let's start with the women's for preview for UTMB. So this, I run far saying that it's 109 miles. And. I thought that I think that's increased over the years. I think, you know, when my friend Sean did it, it was like around 103. Now it's like 109. And this is a 46 and a half hour cut off. There's well over 30,000 feet of climbing. Um, so it's, uh, it's not a cupcake. It's a very tough hundred dollars around Mount Blanc. And, uh, like I said, it starts at six p.m. over there for a Friday, which is Friday. Uh, morning Friday morning for me and, uh, probably Friday afternoon for you. Like around lunchtime. Uh, it will be live stream. And I run far saying a lot of the top women already finished major hundred mile events. This year, top four women from Western states are all in it. Hey, Chi, uh, food dog, and Esther, ceiling and Emily Hawgood. So, and there's a bunch of other superstar women running. So, so Katie shi is probably the favorite to win. Uh, she won, she dominated Western states. Right. She made it easy. And, uh, she also has won UTMB before. So. She is, uh, definitely the favorite. And Blandine. Herndelle of France could be considered the host country's favorite this year. Uh, she finished third at UTMB. And, uh, she did last year. And Ruth Croft from New Zealand, she's running. And, uh, I guess last year, she had to withdraw because of illness. Um, but this year, uh, she's been crushing things. Um, well, at the end of last year, she won the ultra trail Cape Town, hundred K. And also a transvolcania. So she's, uh, definitely having a great year. And she wants Western states of 2022. Uh, as well. So Marianne Hogan's running from Canada. Uh, she finished second at UTMB in 2022. She won the Swiss Canyon trail on her K this year and six at transvolcania. And then, um, uh, from China, uh, Fuzal. She is also a great runner. And she did really well at Western States this year. Um, and, uh, she got second at Western States. Uh, she's also has wins at Mount Young, 50 K North face. 100 trail challenge in, in Mogenschon, 30 K this year. Uh, she's run you to be several times. Uh, she placed forth as her best finish at UTMB. Uh, Esther Esther ceiling. Uh, she's also double enough Western States, UTMB, like we already mentioned. She's from, uh, Hungary, but lives in Hong Kong. She came in third at Western States. And Mati Mora, uh, she was finished third at UTMB in 2019 fifth place finish in 2023. Emily Hawgood, who's a really strong runner. Um, she was second at CCC last year, which is like their 50 K, I think, at UTMB. And, uh, she's from Zimbabwe, but living in the US. She was fourth at Western States. And from the US, Sabrina Stanley, who former winner of hard rock. She went hard rock twice. Uh, last year, she couldn't start UTMB because she got COVID. I remember that actually. I was like, man, what city lock, you know, you're. You trained for this race. No, she took ninth last year. She took ninth last year 2022. She couldn't run 22. She got COVID. I'm sorry. Yes. Good. Good call. But yeah, regardless. Could you imagine, like. Yeah. Yeah. You know, yeah. Uh, she can. I mean, she's one hard rock twice. Yeah. I mean, if she has a good day, she could, she could be up there. Yeah. So that'll be interesting. Um, Ragnar is running. And Claire Banworth, who's just, she's been in like every race this year. She like does all the races. Ever. She's when you were up in an earlier. I was kind of screwing down here, looking at some of the names. I'm like, there she is again. Like she's just everywhere. Yeah. She, uh, she's must have just like. Yeah. And listen, I'm also of energy right now. These races. Um, Abby Hall is lining up for first UTM B. She has three finish, three finishes of CCC third and second. 2022 and 2021. Uh, Lucy Bartholomew. She's running this year. Uh, she has expanded her focus from only running in recent years, but she could still have a strong day. Yeah. So that's pretty much the. The strongest and well known runners. Helen Minow Faulkner. It's going to be her first run at UTM B. Um, yeah, it's just loaded man. What's really crazy is even when you scroll down to. The section they have one here called still more fast women. They're like, good God, like look at some of the like. It is insane. Like it is absolutely insane. Yeah. From the U.S. Lindsey Dwyer. Yeah. First. Um, you walk forth in Canyons hundred. First at Rocky raccoon one hundred fifth at. 2023 canyons. Stephanie Howe. I think like another one that was back up a little bit was. Claire, Claire, he slop. He's not. I don't know how to pronounce your last name. Yeah. But I did this her and I was like, man, like that name. Like, I feel like we've talked about her in the past. Yeah. I mean, it is. It is. She's right there. Yeah. She was 11th at 2023. UTMB. Yeah. Anybody could have a strong day. These are all like elite women. Yeah. So. I mean, here. Yeah, it's kind of. It sucks, but it's also kind of fun. That Courtney's not running it. Yeah. Now it's you. I mean, like it'd be a while to go to it. She doesn't get in it, but. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, at least now. You know, I mean, like. Same as Western states this year was, you know, kind of fun because. Because. You know, she's Courtney's like pretty much a lock. Yeah. Yeah. A five star lock if you're betting. But, but yeah, no, it should be fine. Like. Keyshide. Bar and any. Bar and any, uh, hiccups. Do you think she's the heavy favorite? Yeah. I do. Um, yeah. I mean, she's one UTM B. And she had a really strong Western states. So. Do you. Do you think. Do you think a runner of that caliber. Is a hundred percent, like all a. Hundred percent mentally, physically. On a sailor level, like. Is a runner of that, however, a hundred percent recovered. From Western states going into UTM B, you think. Well, that's a good question because. Wamsley. Has failed at that. That is double in the past. Um, a few times. Where he dominated Western states. And he didn't get it done at UTM B. He didn't even win UTM B until you lived over there for two years. Yeah. And so. So you're right. That double does there is something about that double. I mean, it is. There is a decent chunk of time between June, you know, end of June. And now it's like two months, right? Um, but. Yeah, it's a good point. I mean, it's not, it's not guaranteed. So we'll see how to respond. Let me ask you this because you've done plenty. Right. Are you recovered? Would you like what are you in a Western states, right? And two months later, like, all right, let's come up again. What percent do you think you're recovered? Like for me. I'm a one and one hundred mile race a year person. Yeah. It takes me. It takes me a good month before my run start to feel normal again. You know. Um, yeah, like. So then once you do start feeling normal again, then you got to do a training build up. So, I don't know, like some people, some people can just jump from hundred to hundred. You know, uh, like, uh, what's his name? Andrew Glaze. He's running UTMB. Yeah. He just finished fricking leadville. Yeah. I mean, on, on a local level that you and I know, Sheldon Campbell. I mean, there's a year or what was it? A handful of years ago. He ran five hundreds in one year. You know what I mean? So like, uh, if I, if, if I was able to, right? If the wife's like epic, go for it. I don't care. I think I don't think I'm confident. I could squeeze out two hundreds in a year right now. How close together exactly appropriately spacing them out, right? Like I'm probably going to do like, if given the opportunity, I would do like one in like May, you know, I mean early June. And then like the other one in like October, you know, like we are trying to get some spacing between them. Yeah. And what's funny, you know, is like sitting here and saying that out loud. You almost second get, is that really the right way to go? Or do you kind of do what we're talking about right now? And like you're like, all right, as soon as my muscles and like, it's like pretty much recovered. And they do another one. So I don't have to retrain really. I just have to like, let's get through it. You can use your, your training that you've already done to your advantage. So my friend Sean out here, uh, he did, he got in the western states and hard rock in the same year, 2018. And that doubles even harder. Right. So it's like two to three weeks in between. So, uh, so yeah, I, I think there's something to it like mentally when if you have that double, you're, you're going to, you're going to be ready to go. But for me, it's just, it's a bit much like, I, I usually, I don't know, I kill myself training for one race. One, you know, one hundred mile race and I put everything I have towards it. And like, once it's done, I just want to like chill. I don't, I don't have any desire to be like gear up for another hundred. Get ready for another. Yeah. I want to relax and enjoy not training for a little while, but that's just me. So, so who are you taking? Who's your podium for women? Well, um, I, like, I don't know much about Blanding, uh, here in Dell. Yeah. But she is the coast country favorite this year. Yeah. She finished third last year. She, she's the highest place finisher from 2023 who's returning. But I still think that Katie Shide is in her element right now and I'm going Katie Shide. Okay. She probably write this down. So I don't forget. Oh, don't you worry. I'm writing it down. Katie. Yeah. I think, um, I think I'm going to go with, uh, foods out of shanks for a second. Okay. Okay. This is her fifth UTMB. Yeah. Okay. I think she's, um, I think she's up to her game in. I'm going to go with Ruth Croft for a third. Okay. All right. What about you? We won't do, we won't bother to do a, uh, we won't bother to do a honorary. So I am, I'm going to be that guy. And I'm going to take the host, the host country favorite. I am going to roll a bland bean. Okay. I like it. I like it. I'm going to go bland bean to win it. And then I'm going to go with the Spaniard and I'm going to go with, uh, Mayora. Okay. Second. All right. Just, I think the europeans are going to get their, their little like run back at it. And then for third place for me. Uh, man. Um, I'm going to go with fan wars. Dang. Well, before you make that pig, I want to propose. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to propose that we do a wild card from the, from the still more fast women. Oh, Claire's not in that one. So no, no, band worth is. Yeah, band worth is up at the top. Yeah, band worth was other, other top women is where Claire was. Oh, yes. Okay. She is. Okay. Yeah. Those are my guesses. And it's kind of fun to mention because, uh, Dwyer down to where the bottom was. Oh, man. I can't find her now. I was like, she's down there. Yeah. So you want to do a wild card pick. From strictly from does it have to be from the still more fast women. Yeah. Okay. Who's your wild card from that section? Um, I think. I'm going to go with a list of Clark. Oh, yeah. Yeah. She's from the US. Yeah. And she got first at this 25 K over there. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to go with a list of Clark, dude. Oh, yeah. Yeah. She's from the US. And she got first at this 25 K over there. She got first at 2023 Canyon's 100 and first at 2021. You're right. So 100. So she's a mountain runner. Yeah. Doesn't. I don't know. I'd have to look at her past history, but I mean. It's a wild card, right? So if they get on the podium. Yeah, if they get on the podium, you kill it. Now I'm going to be extremely cheap and I am going Lindsay. I am taken to wire from from that group. I actually will be my wife. Um, you know who else I saw on here. So. Lindsey. She won Rocky this year. Right. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. No, no. It wasn't her. Never mind. I was thinking, Oh, yeah. Okay. She did. She won Rocky Raccoon. Yeah. I also had her. That's a flat 100 though. That's a super flat 100. Yeah. I'm more weirdly enough. Her win at me walk is what really kind of like kind of, you know what I mean? Like that is a. It's a fast race. Yeah. Yeah. Highly competitive. Oh, it is. Yeah. For sure. Cool, man. All right. Let's get on to the news. Let's go. So this is going to be interesting because like I mentioned, Walmsley has had problems with the, with the Western States, UTMB double in the past. So can he do it? Now he hasn't been living in training in France. This year, he moved back. So. Is he going to be able to do it? So let's just go down and start. So Walmsley is the favorite, obviously. Yeah. He won Western States this year. He's, he's wins like pretty much every race he gets in, like Courtney DeWalter. Yeah. Matthew Blanchard. He's back. He's a strong runner. And it could be, it could be years that the French reclaimed their, men's and women's championships. Well, he's, he's French, but he lives in Canada. Yeah. But, but yeah, to your point. Yes. He got second at 2022. Then he got fourth in 2023. So I know he was coming back from an injury though. So, so he might be, he might be right there neck and neck with Jim. Jermaine Granger got third at UTMB in 2023. He put pressure on Jim and Zach Miller the whole way. And he won the Mount block marathon 90 K in 2023. So he's a strong runner in that area. Tom Evans won Western States in 2023. He was forced to withdraw. From last year's UTMB with stomach issues at the halfway mark. He got third at Translokania second in Lavorado this year. Lavorado. Germany's Hans Nomburger has two top 10 finishes at UTMB six at 2021, eight to 2023. A DNF sandwiched in the middle of those, according to our own far. He has a 2023 win at Iger ultra trail 100 K, which is super competitive. And a third win at Lavorado ahead of Tom Evans. He's a brilliant is running this year, Aurelian. Don Palat. I've tried mispronounces name, but he's from France. And he's been crushing Hunter Myler's last couple of years. He should, he should be in the tussle for the podium. That's what I run far as has written. I want to give credit to them. I'm not stealing. Yeah. But, um, you know, he didn't finish 2022 UTMB place second 2021. But he did win hard rock. That year, 2021, and he won diagonal day food in 2023. I'm sorry, he won hard rock in 2023. So last year's hard rock. And diagonal day food in the same year, which diagonal day food. Is a crazy hard race. Yeah. It's out on that island, like. West of Africa. Anyway. Yeah. So he is going to be in contention for sure. And then you got Ludo, who won hard rock. This year set a course record at hard rock. So he's well suited for mountain running. Um. Other top men, Demetri. Mityev. And. I mean, he's only done 200 miles to date, but he got third and fifth at the 21 and 20, 22 western states. 2023, he won lakes and almost 50. He took fifth at CCC. So he could be up there. Drew Holman. Timbo. Buronian makes his 100 mile debut at 2024, but he's from France. He has years of experience computing at a high level of shorter distances. He was third at 2021 CCC, which was his first hundred K. Oh, CCC is a hundred K OCC is the 50 K. Yeah. Um, so yeah, he could be in the running. Another Frenchman, Arthur. Joy. Bullion. Uh, ninth at 2023, T.M.B. G. Shane Shen from China. He is like, yeah, he's, uh, really coming on lately. Uh, Miguel her Paris. And he's, uh, took second in the 2024 trans grand scenario. Um, Jonas Rusey of Switzerland. He got eighth at 2022, T.M.B. Another Frenchman. Um, yeah. So it's loaded, dude. There's just, you know, Daniel John. Uh, he won the 2021 diagonal. They flew fourth at Hard Rock 2022. This is his first U.T.M.B. Um, yeah. Yeah. I don't know if there's any more. Oh, gee, gee, gee, gee show. Uh, I don't know if there's any more U.S. men. Yeah. Really high. And I don't. Cody land. I feel like the women is just a little bit more. You know what I mean? There's definitely some fast dudes. Yeah. Uh, canyon Woodward. Yeah. There's a couple of Americans down in that where you are now. There's a few more American. Like you just said, canyons in there. Uh, Tim tall, uh, tall of sins down there. Tim Thompson does, uh, UTMB like every year. Yeah. He actually, he's been on the podium at UTMB before. But, uh, but that was a while ago. Um, I actually have, uh, uh, for our, for our, um, for our wildcard out of this section, I have, I have my guy picked out. I think I know who it is. Um, I think I have mine picked out too. Uh, well, Canyon Woodward as well. He was first at canyons this year. Yeah. Uh, all right. Well, let's, let's make our picks. Uh, we're, we're over. Yeah. We're running. Yeah. We did. I did some rambling tonight. Uh, all right, that's all good, man. We got for your podium out there this weekend. So. I think. I think I'm going to, I think I'm going to mix it up here. Okay. I'm thinking that. Uh, man. I, I think I'm going to go with a really in. For first place. Mm. Yeah, go pause. Yep. Okay. And I think I'm going to go. Wamsley a second. And I think I'm going to go with. Ludo. Ludo and. Homarit. Why don't you go, go ahead and then we'll do our wild cards. Oh, so it's funny because I, I, I was playing on taking a, I was thinking about taking pillows also. So I may, I may follow you there. I may take pillows. Okay. I think I may take shin for a second. Nice. Mm. And now here's what I was thinking. I was thinking about taking Wamsley for third. But, but. I talked myself out of it because I also feel like. When Wamsley's not winning. He just like is like, fuck this and will often be like, ah, fuck it and not care. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's true. He could, he could drop if he's not. Yeah. Like, yeah. He likes to, if he's not burning it down, he's like, ah, fuck it. I'm good. I ain't got shit to prove. And he ain't wrong. Like he got shit to prove. You know what I mean? Yeah. So all that being said, I think I'm going to take a little bit of a flyer. I think I'm going to go a little off the, like the, the beaten path here. And then I think I'm going to go with her. Uh, Miguel Ross. Wow. Okay. Nice. Uh, he's older than 49. Yeah. Yeah. And so I want to steal the idea that you and I learned about Hard Rock, about how it's a little bit of an older dude's game on these big mountain runs. Yeah, she's kind of wondering like, Hey, does, does his age come in, you know, and, and do something for him. So anyways, that's, that's, and I only need, I only need my dude to get third. I need him to win it. I just need him to build a, you know, right? Use that geriatric. I, I have a sneaking suspicion that you and I are going to pick the same wild card, though. Go ahead. Uh, you know me. Uh, you know me. I love me. Some East Coast runners. And if you can win me in East Coast race, I'm going to take you. Yeah. Grindstone. There it is, baby. Give me that mic. Mike McConaugal. McMonaugal. McMonaugal. Mike McMonaugal. Mike McMonaugal. He's a hell of a runner. And he got third at Swiss Alps. Uh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was my strong, that was my strong, uh, favorite. We can have, we didn't have the same wild card. It's all right. But. I was also looking at Canyon Woodward. But he, he doesn't typically do well at UTMB. Yeah. I mean, he took 28th. What a fucking bump. Get your bullshit out of here, fucking Canyon. Yeah. Um, so. This guy, Andy Simmons got 11th in 2022. Um, I mean, Tim took third in 2017. And 2016. Yeah, he was, he, he used to be a. He, everybody thought he was going to be the first American male to win at UTMB for a while. Um, I don't know who this man. Well, I would, I'd wait, and we'd, uh, is, but he's had some strong stuff lately. Um, Kody. He's, and, and he's a Spaniard. Yeah. I mean, he's not a local, but at least he's, you know, I mean. This guy got 7th at 2021, UTMB. So. Who's this from Lithuania? All right. I got a shit or get up the pot. Let's, let's go with, uh, let's go with, with, I'll get, I'll take, I'll take the whole, the host country. Gregor Kermiere. He was 7th at 2021, UTMB. Second at the ultra trails, not doing you a hundred and 2023. Dude, I'll tell you, I'll tell you who, I'll tell you who. Looking at him now. The, the fucking lift the waiting and it might not be a bad sleeper. Dude. I know. I know. It's a bit strong about that. Yeah. Race is that dude has, uh, first and second. That's right. Dude. The Amazonian jungle. Thailand. That sounds horrible. I don't even know what, what the, the Doy and Infinon is, but it sounds hard. Like all I, all I needed to see was jungle. It was jungle and Thailand. And though that, that race is a motherfucker, right? He's like, I can't even wrap my head around what that dude ran through. Yeah. Um, really, really quickly, uh, just to move on from, from our preview. Uh, so Mike Wardian is in New York. Uh, he just crossed over into New York like a day ago. And, um, and Tara, Tara Dower. She's in, uh, is it Connecticut right before New York on the Appalachian trail or Massachusetts? Well, she's, um, oh, let's, let's listen to what, what she has to say. Um, all right. Real quick. Can we go? Can you hear that? Um, oh, I got a share. That's why. Yes. It's rugged, humid, beautiful. Oh, she's in New York. Little low on water. Oh, I know. And my crew has me doing a good chunk of miles today. Mindset is not in the right place. So I thought of a fun way to kind of maximize my miles today and make kind of motivate me to get through the day. Um, so I'm running as many of you know, I'm running for girls on the run. And, um, we'd love if you guys just donated, but I thought a fun way to motivate me today. I mean, that's beautiful. You know, it's not always perfect day to day. Motivation's not at 100% for 40 odd days that I'll be out here. Um, so thought of a way to kind of give me a little motivation. Uh, however many miles I complete today. A percent for 40 odd days that I'll be out here. Um, so thought of a way to kind of give me a little motivation. Uh, however many miles I complete today. That's however much money that whoever wants to participate. Donate. Yeah. Well, it's on the run. Okay. So she's in New York. Uh, Mike Gordon crossed into Pennsylvania. Okay. Uh, I think she's going to pass Mike soon. I do. I think you have your right. She's gained. She's gained a ton on. She is trucking. And he's not in all fairness. He's not going for the FKT. Right. But still, I mean, she's doing well. I mean, he's not going for an FKT. This is true. But he is still Mike Gordon. Right. Like, I mean, like that's the wild, but it's not like it's not like it's new. Or I out there shuffling down. You know what I mean? She's running down. It is amazing that she is pulling that dude in the way she is. Oh, she's crushing it. She's crushing it. Um, yeah, super impressive. Um, they're, I know that she has a really small crew. So, um, they're not, they're not able to really like do a lot of social media. Posting to and stuff, but she's, she's been posting to her, to her page. And they've been doing good with what they have. So, uh, it has to be breaking development one day ago. Right. One day ago, Mike Wharton, day 27. Uh, he is in rocks, uh, Roxavania. So he is Pennsylvania. So Mike Wharton is in PA. So he needs to close out a state. You know what I mean? I don't know. She's, she's, I do feel like she's the New York section is not that. I don't think it's that big. I do feel like she's gaining the honey, but she still got some work to do, but it is. It is funny to watch her run him down. Yeah. Oh, oh wait, New Jersey. So she's got to go to New York, New Jersey. I don't think the New Jersey sections are big. No, campy. I didn't know there was a New Jersey section to be honest with you. Yeah, that's a. So start in Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey. Pennsylvania. So, uh, yeah. Here's Mike Wharton in Pennsylvania. Yeah. That's yes. Bart. Yes. Oh, which. That guy is a legend. Um, he has like. Pretty famous. I think he's written some books and. Well. He, he's the, he's also the, like, the creator. Like he's more of a marathon, half marathon guy. Yeah. He has that he created the Yasso 800s. That's right. That's right. Yeah. So. Um, okay. I just wanted to give a quick update on, on them. And one thing that we'll probably just go ahead and get into next. Next week is the. Um, yeah. We, I think we can skip run spirited's article about six things to follow. UTMB. Although it was really good. We're way out of time. Yeah. Would just see how UTMB plays out. But, um, one thing I want to follow up on next week is. The discussion that we had about the. The elite races or like the races where a lot of elites go, which. What's the longest standing. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So Johnny posted from our ultra. Ultra running news network, Facebook page onto David Crockett's ultra running. History Facebook page. And it got approved like a couple of days ago by. At men, David Crockett. I'm assuming. And it, uh, it got a lot of, uh, a lot of comments going back forth. They brought up a lot of interesting points. And, um, I think we know who has the longest standing major, major race. Uh, record, but we'll, we'll get into that more next week. Um, excited to kind of talk about that. Cool. All right. All right. Well, everybody enjoy UTMB. Uh, good luck. Good luck getting any work done on Friday. If you hear this, if you hear this before you, TMB, UTMB, hit us up. Let us know a comment on this post. Who your podium is for the men and women. Let us know how you feel like you didn't do against our picks. Yeah, definitely. We'd love to, we'd love to hear it. And, uh, well, we'll even, uh, you know, give me a shout out. Uh, the next episode. Yeah. So, all right. Well, everybody have a good Labor Day weekend. Have a good long run. Uh, college football is back. Go. Go box. That's right. Oh, wait. Oh, let's go. All right. We'll see you guys later. Thanks. Take care. Bye. Uh, I'll true. 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