Location:
AC: Lake Geneva, Milwaukee, Williamsburg
SW: Barefoot with snakes by the gun store
Involuntary Sponsor of the Week:
Girls Auto Clinic
The Zeitgeist:
- U.Va. suspends admissions tours led by the University Guides Service
- RFK Jr: Dead bears in Central Park, heads off dead whales…you team is normal
- Lidl clouds across Europe.
- The risk of being a new parking pattern early adopter
- AI and Atrophying brains ?
Envoy Tank Radio: Breaking the boundaries between civilian and military…
- Diplomatic Sauna Society
- Pavel Durov - Arrest or defection? - doesn’t matter... the Russians now think the West has the back door
Perri's Scope
Yelling at Clouds with Scott & Ace:
- American hover-queueing - for the love of the gods are you in line or not?
- Roundabouts. How they work, what they are and what the aren’t. (Hint, they’re not stop signs)
Rendezvous: Silos in the Badlands.
all right where are we we're here that's it doesn't feel like we're here where were we is maybe a better question where were you I was in Lake Geneva do we talk about already well so you've been here I've been I've been largely I went to Williamsburg it's Brooklyn like Virginia oh whether we're the costumes yeah so as a child who grew up in Virginia I get got here late I got in fifth grade I managed to skip all of the field trips so I never went to colonial Williamsburg I never went to Jamestown never went to Yorktown basically or your people did shitty things generally across the board I didn't get to go see and I went down to Williamsburg as an adult and I went to a very nice steakhouse and I stayed in a very nice hotel and then I came home did you stay in one of those hotels that pretends it's in like colonial times no were you wearing leg games oh yeah but that had nothing to do with Williams all right this is Williamsburg is I've never seen a contortion of history like Williamsburg tries to pull off it's wild like all those free people no so so one of the things I was wondering is like dying free people built the world one of the things I was wondering like well we're down there it's like when did somebody decide to preserve this it wasn't like after Williams oh no there's a whole this is going to be the rock it was the Rockefeller family yeah I just found that out yeah we're gonna bankrolled it but he was like you have to buy it was like some parishioner in Williamsburg he was like you have to buy all of the property here but you can't tell anybody it's Rockefeller buying it otherwise we'll jack the prices up so you had to do it like really quiet it was just Bob it was just Bob who like somehow had enough money to buy the whole fucking town wild so I gotta be careful because I don't know if you know this we know some people who are the border Williamsburg Foundation so we just got to go stay on this but if I recall correctly it's like this historical place but there are little signs everywhere this is yeah this is this is the thing but but it wasn't quite here it was like quarter of a mile down the road it's sort of it's it's just if you haven't been you should go because you'll either love it or you'll just find it a bit weird and then it's it's okay as well I would like to state for the record speaking of tights that the Lulu lemon in Williamsburg is historically accurate if there is a and if there is evidence that the victor tells the story it's right it's being an in good notes not well yeah also that yeah it's it's being an English person in that historic triangle which is what it's Jamestown Williamsburg and Yorktown yeah okay and so the history the summary is basically these brave English people came on these little boats over this and built this compound and survived yeah which isn't true history either but that's the narrative and then Williamsburg gets a bit blurry because the English people have been these colonial and look at these amazing buildings they built and they had this commerce but the governor was he was a little mean and then you get to Yorktown it's like we killed those Boston English people so wait wait wait it's with a say yeah okay you look at something on anyway my experience was I've largely been in Virginia this past week and but my reminder that I was not in England is that we were at a Navy base earlier this week Candace and I and we stopped by the Mexican restaurant that we like to stop out that's just outside there and there's a gun store it's got this massive massive sign that just says guns yeah we like guns and the last time was that I said Vera I want a photograph in front of that sign and she said I need you alive for the next few weeks you're not allowed to go take the photograph so I was there on a company this what on a company by Bureau this week so I said to Candace I want to photo by that sign but we parked in the little Mexican restaurant and there was like this long grass and she said I don't think my shoes will make it through this wet long grass yeah so she said I'll go barefoot to which then I said I don't think we should because there's probably snakes in that grass and all I just want to say is never as a child did I think I'd be trying to get photographs myself by a big gun sign while worried about dodging snakes barefoot to get to it it's just not a thing you're the brave English man who came to I should you know if you put a peaked cap on me I could tell that story in Williamsburg tonight my name's Scott Wayne and I'm Ace call it and I don't know what the hell this is play the sting involuntary response for the week oh Vera put us on to this this is great involuntary sponsor of the week we're probably gonna wreck your business I'm afraid girls auto clinic in Pennsylvania this is an woman owned all woman run car shop it fixes cars it'll service it'll change your oil rotate your tires do much deeper repairs from that and also has an affiliated beautician right next to it so you can as Vera said you can get a manicure while your tires are being rotated and it just looks great but more importantly more importantly much more important the reason they're sponsored week is if you go to their website they have all kinds of education about how as women enter into the automotive industry how to set up your own shop their online videos about how to repair your car career pass about how to become a tech it's brilliant so go girls auto clinic calm I'm seeing the she cannek she cannek she cannek she cannek fast-growing community of women and girls redefining automotive world on our terms this is why women is a secret most women fear the automotive buying and repair industry yeah yeah women it's it is not yeah all of that it's just don't like three sisters floating around who like yeah one of them gets really handy the other two are skeptical about their car repairs like I this is brilliant big fan yeah so one more plug girls auto clinic dot com the zeitgeist hey speaking of historically accurate recounting of history as of yesterday the University of Virginia I think probably Scott's favorite university in the state suspended admission tours led by university guide services and there's like it's a it's a big so university guide services is a student run student led organization who has basically been contracted or affiliated with the university to run admission tours show people around show people yeah potential students and they they do some historical tours as well because it's you know Thomas Jefferson's old dive and you know there's a lot of history there so the temporarily at least while the suspension is in place and while university guide service guides service goes on basically performance improvement plan rehabilitation interns employed by the universityers are going to be doing the admission tours and there's so there's speculation on my part which I think is really funny and then there's like the response from university guide service and basically they said hey we have internal reviews and feedback mechanisms by which we get feedback on tours and we think that our tours have been great and the university has suspended them now there's a new guy on the board of visitors who's been kind of going at this group but basically they're like we think the history of the university should be told accurately and if we talk about Thomas Jefferson we kind of have to disclose the city on slaves any right people oh they've been suspended for that yeah like that's the the very underlying that nobody has said very publicly like the the university press that has come out hasn't said that publicly university guide service response that was basically like we're happy to give tours we think they're historically accurate and you know we should tell the future it's fat it's it's fat we're gonna see this play out over the next couple weeks and it's going to be a roller coaster so look I am if UVA is going to go this way I think in the interests of sort of going back to sort of more natural tones of that era there may be all the guides where Chino's or white shirt and guide with tiki torches across the lawn just a thought there we go Coco we might have to rethink your application the UVA kid where I didn't get in on them so there we go hey but fortunately RFK junior is not a graduate of UVA because they're what we'd have on the lawn is apparently a couple of bears and the head of the whale I don't know how wild are the headlines of RFK junior can get it's think like take what you'd expect and then throw it out the window and just write words and it's probably accurate so yeah it's yeah so I saw an article from kick Kennedy his daughter who was just like yeah we had a whale head on the top of the car driving home and people were just flipping us off on the interstate and I was like I mean I could see that I could see that you know if your dad has chainsawed a whales the head off and strapped it to the top of the car people might be upset about it in Massachusetts he he has taken we talk about sort of normalization of the extraordinary and there's discussion of that within US politics kind of stay away from election stuff because there's just so much coverage of that and plenty out there but in terms of just the normalization of the are normal is also his divorce so Cheryl Hines the actress divorced him after she discovered his diary where he documented having affairs with 37 women it was I'm not sure what's weirder the volume or the the journaling of said it's just anyway so listen we have done a lot this week on leadership dynamics within different organizations view organization we're working on some things are unusual everybody brings their quirks if you're feeling your team isn't quite exactly as you'd like them to be just just Google well it's numerous reports on RFK junior and everything's gonna feel great there we go I'm trying to find a segway to this but I don't have one ladle the where do you shop do you have a shop at ladle I don't shop at ladle my partner loves ladle okay yeah so you know I guess by extension actually I bet the jewels does exactly as I do we go to Aldi and like by all the cheap organic stuff and then which is like insanely cheap and then we go to the farmers market and buy to tomatoes bankrupt the household budget I suspect Jules does exactly the same thing yeah yeah I'm told to pick up like you know the heirloom tomatoes from the farmers market while she's a little get in the fresh fish yeah so ladle may become again from V3 through this our way the next like major cloud provider they're going head on to compete with Amazon web services and Microsoft it turns out that the global cloud is not going to become a thing and and the reason it's not going to become a thing is this idea of sovereign computing sovereign cloud so just like we have sovereign boundaries all of this debate about immigration and the whole Brexit debate do we have sovereignty sovereignty of data and so this has been a thing in India for a long long time India wouldn't allow the data of its citizens to sit on the global cloud in the sense of servers that are distributed around the world Europe with GDPR and all of the other sort of constraints of course the US is a wild west of data as it is with most things it's sort of you know if you get a free lollipop Americans will hand over everything the Europeans as usual slow and conservative around what they do and so there's a question mark over whether Europeans will trust European governments will trust American based entities and so ladle has entered the cloud business this is cool so AWS started this way basically Amazon vertically integrated and now ladle has done the same thing so they vertically integrated because I've got shit ton of data I had an internal IT unit and they've spun out what is now called Schwartz digits into its own operating division and on the regional plane they're going toe-to-toe with AWS Google and Microsoft this is it's not unheard of like we see this in various industries but for a grocery retailer who is just scratching its own itch on the IT front to spin out what is probably going to be a pretty successful little standalone business is pretty cool a dig it ladle wasn't on my bingo card nor was heads of whales or student guides getting suspended on campus so we're doing the surprise ER today what's next oh just we talked about you remember the new patterns we talked to the new driving patterns oh yeah people really bad so I came that way today from the house there's a new there's a new driving pattern that goes right past table soon bakery yeah ease bakery oh I know and there have basically what was two lanes there's now a lane of parking and there's one lane to drag no let's go to you on this this is urban design yeah this is urban site so a two lane road that goes into a one lane bridge yep the city like many cities across America across the world America's catching up is creating instead is taking that essentially useless extra lane has turned it into I think they call it floating parking isn't it so your park slightly offset from the sidewalk yeah cuz there's a bike lane on the inside yeah so the park cars protect the bike lane yep okay so there's lots of signs up saying it's a new traffic pattern and it's all painted differently and how a Richmond is responding to this oh they're losing their shit right like just really bad there are people just like I've been behind people and and the left lane is is the drivable lane now I came off the bridge I don't know late last week and there was somebody in the right lane like driving through the parking lane there weren't any cars there and I just I got over to the left lane and I just stayed there just behind them at some point they were gonna have that oh shit moment and jump into the left lane I was like let me just not be right and give them some defensive driving when I am typically a pretty aggressive driver but I was coming over today and people have started to park in the parking lane which feels sketchy but it what it triggered for me is the risk of being an early adopter particularly for something like a new parking pattern like there there is risk and there's reward the reward is I now have dedicated parking probably directly in front of my door I don't have to jam up the back alley I don't have to find off-street parking where I didn't have parking and I'm gonna protect the bike lane I'm gonna yeah that's probably not the driver folks but it but it is it's a natural byproduct well it's right on this side of the river it might actually be the driver this whole neighborhood sponsored by Patagonia it kind of Patagonian outpost bike shop right so yeah like the risk of doing the thing first you figure like insurance will cover a car but it's still a major inconvenience if somebody totals your car and maybe wrecks themselves and the kids or whoever's in the car with them but like at some point somebody has to park in that way this is if this is the evidence that this is the least diverse radio show in the world two nights ago because there's a parking spot right outside out post right there's no new one and outpost is paying the ass to parking and I parked my car there yeah went into the boost it's a bikes it's really a boost store disguised as a bike store when it was over they fixed bikes before I bought anything shot back out and reparched my cars did you really I do not trust somebody just to go slamming into the back of that thing it's and look I've had plenty of people slamming in the back I've got a big toe hitch on the back it sure goes through people's radiators before it hits the car but I didn't want to deal with it right but my faith in and then I thought I'll be the first of the team to park here but it will be a couple of months a so be next it'll be five years before Perry puts this ball back perry in the protection of the both like first mover and also what's a risk you know what's a risk I mean he might perry the the vehicular laggard of the team there we go I'll let you get a little distribution of innovation yeah you just take the hit first and I'll see what happens and decide what to do after that it's it's wild though and even the cars that I saw parked today were just cheated into the bike lane a little bit like they were just off set like didn't know but I think the thing about a real design and in like the the resistance there was one comment because the cities put the stuff I was going it does it does a pretty good job of these things and one woman wrote the only the only people who the only people who ride bikes in this neighborhood in the city are in VCU they're not in this neighborhood there are more bike shops in this neighborhood than there are that literally there are food stores but yeah the side here of like it's just how it was it must be and all those so I want I'll like wrap this point up and taking it out of parking and just into the distribution of innovation because we talk about this concept a lot the kind of bell curve of how people adopt a new product over time and and we see this you and I talk our team talks about IT like our hardware in the same way or really our software when a new upgrade comes out from Apple or a new update to to our operating system like my general guidance for the team is to hold off for a couple of days do you know let's do the latest we can't afford to go down if there are and look Apple test things before they roll out but often if you're in the beta class of software rollout or if you're early yet they're going to be bumps and bruises in adopting we see this with the new iPhone there's always kinks and and so like it's just this is a prime example in real time around something that seems as benign as parking of how people actually make decisions as a new thing is put out there and whether they're willing to take the risk before the rest of the general public and we've got a little section on roundabouts later the rest of the general public who's IQ I don't know I question sometimes like has to figure out how to use the thing or exist with a new product and I thought this was a really interesting example hey just a heads up you might want to take roundabouts off the running order it's been an intense week for me this week I'm not sure I'm ready to talk about Americans roundabouts today that's exactly why it's in the yelling in class so so state as you talk about technology I have to say sorry I think I I think I cost your tech because you run our tech budget yeah our imaginary budget you run what we buy in tech but I might have cost us a thousand bucks yesterday because I suggested to you and perry I don't you remember there's this Scandinavian Nordic Baltic company that Jordan Steinstugen yeah yeah that's created this new grip for it basically takes your camera into it DSLR yeah and so perry is watching the the video from the company about it yesterday it's I don't know if we want this move could use it could be interesting then I said look at that set that's just like a set as if Volvo designed it and in that moment you could feel two grand drop from our pockets into their pockets is it very like oh yeah like this I looked at it perry actually you and I get to talk about how we want to handle some of our tech because it's adaptable with Moment lenses which I've really been digging you and I've been talking about and involuntary and voluntary sponsor like I'm just digging moments gear right now so yeah we'll play with our our new kit and you know we may spend two grand on it we'll find a few old co if you're that's what I said on some show with Robert Greene the New York Times author he wrote 48 laws of power 33 strategies of war and I think appropriately to round out a trifecta the art of seduction he wrote all of those things actually even the art of seduction was like talking about the philosophers Freud and Kierkegaard Einstein anyway what he was saying is the brain is going to atrophy as a function of AI like he hates AI he's like I'm not I'm not into it and the example he gave is that the kitties he was translating a passage of the kitties in school and his professor told him that he completely mistranslated the paragraph but that he was getting at something and his argument against AI is that the kids are never gonna have that experience which teaches character and patience and discipline and I don't know that I'm I have any strong opinion on people who do or don't like AI but the case that one makes is that because you didn't translate one of the great Greek philosophers and therefore you won't learn character or patience or discipline I feel like is maybe misplaced causality and yeah it just it felt like because I feel like every generation has made this argument like the kids don't go outside anymore because they're you know reading the stone tablets and the kids aren't reading the stone tablets anymore because they're reading paper manifestos and the kids aren't reading manifestos because they're listening to the radio or they're watching TV or they're playing video games and we have done this every generation I think we're having a real conversation about technology today because it's moving faster but the kids won't because we had it different feels it feels like a myopic view of the advancement of technology and that to me is most frustrating it's not that AI isn't problematic or won't change the way that we experience the world but to say that because you didn't translate a great Greek author means that you won't learn patience or discipline because of AI feels like it's conflating the what's actually happening if this were purely a productivity and acceleration tool I think I'd agree I'd say this is just a better hammer we've always had resistance to the hammer I do wonder if AI is not nice I increasingly believe that AI is that Trinity test moment that it is one of those rare revolutionary moments in science that change the world as we know it and nuclear nuclear weapons were won you might argue that there were moments in history around navigation and weaponry and breakthroughs and sailing that did the same thing but I talk about the invention of currency being another yeah the people who nobody's ever heard of but the this because it's displacing the thinking now it doesn't have to displace the thinking everybody says so this is the weakness in humans everybody says no but you can just use it as an aid except people don't sure and because people don't and that's not the fault of AI it's not the fault of the AI engineers but you can build something with the intent that you there are certain brands of cheap cigars where their intention is you smoke a cigar and they're used for other things like but you sort of know that they're gonna be used for other things and the took me a second yeah yeah how do you know that never mind I can't continue spend a lot of time under that bridge where that two lane road goes into so good man the this where it becomes a displacement I'll tell you what I'm hearing which is really depressing is we're losing even more existential thinking about the why is it we're now saying in order to free up my schedule I'm gonna send my AI thing to the meeting instead of it's going well it's pretty clear we don't need the fucking meeting do we and so we're just doing this volume where it's displacing our life but we're not challenging anything and maybe that's his point that it's that breakthrough moment it's just like oh this is the underlying thing this is the matter we're actually addressing and I worry that we just increasingly we just program we program on top of program on top of program it's not a ice fault I wonder if I agree I don't think it's a ice fault and to be fair the thing that the example that he used I think was a misplaced example for the point that he was trying to land I think we have probably been eroding we have been leading up to the AI moment over the past two decades right I think we've been eroding our desire and ability to spend time thinking and AI is expediting our ability to not think but I don't think AI is the reason that we're not thinking right Cliff's notes expedited our ability of like not reading the classics but getting the synopsis AI now makes that synopsis quicker to access I think we have been there weren't many kids getting A's off the cliff notes though which I think maybe is illustrating your point we all become B minus yeah we'll lose the A pluses it's the the original it's the hundred forty characters that Twitter taught us what is an appropriate time span tiktok followed up on this I was fine it's Jack Dorsey's fault yeah and I mean look I think we've I think we've done there I think what's interesting to see now is Instagram has allowed for longer form reels like you can put a couple minutes on reels now and some of the early data suggesting that people are watching it like we've just trained ourselves to watch shorter that has nothing to do with AI but it is very much driving society's desire to engage with tons and long form or think deeply or be present and AI again exacerbating that but I don't know that it's the driver of a lot of the things that we're putting on AI as to the detriment of society so let me present another hypothesis is in a world where we're grappling for facts where anything can be invented and Perry I don't know if you're gonna talk about generative AI on your scope but I mean some of the stuff that's coming out now we were talking about the six months ago it said that's sort of realistic holy cow it's realistic already but if you don't touch those facts the way evidence of this you know I have a list of the things girls need to learn at different ages well one of them is map reading how to read a map and it's partly because they can drive now oh the list for your girls yeah yeah so it's like you'll have a printed map in your car the world turns crap go to these coordinates do this I realized that I couldn't take coordinates anyway I'd forgotten how to do it I feel that yeah how to take a reference point on a compass and so I was sort of relearning because I haven't done it in forever yeah but then you go well if you've never if you never taken a bearing on a compass and you've never experienced magnetic north and south it's much easier to believe the world is flat mm-hmm it's much harder to believe the earth is flat if you having to account for the curvature of the earth and some practical manual hands-on thing mm-hmm that ties you to oh yeah this chain of events is what what a evidential facts look like so this is I hate the overuse the word theory we use theory in place of a hypothesis we don't use the word hypothesis when people say I have a theory in most cases they don't have a raft of peer-reviewed evidence that proves their hypothesis is being correct therefore it's a theory we just have this theory you have an opinion or you have a hypothesis anyway I think we don't live can't talk about a boring book tale we don't live the hyper deductive method anymore 200 years old but we we don't and I think that is actually the under AI probably a by-product of where we are rather than the driver I think is my point and yeah they're the atrophy of brain isn't because of AI it's because we're we're not doing the thing anymore you're right you're not orienteering lord knows I don't know how to clear a rifle when the world goes to shit like I got to remember how to do that thing that I used to do regularly it's about your lived experience so this is what I'm getting at I didn't expect this to go deep here this is good I'm enjoying this yeah everybody else checked out but but the lived experience so if if your digital experience is all about the drama let's go back to snakes in the grass if your lived experience is all about the drama of snakes are bad snakes tackers there's this big story about this big snake that came together that's what your experience of snakes are if you live the experience though what your experiences snakes run away if they know you're coming they'll run away snakes we shouldn't be worried about the cue to walking through grass is to thot loudly which I do naturally so everything's great so but but if we have the digital experience because we're addicted to stories and narrative yeah everything's dramatized rather than the actual lived experience that carries that I feel a book coming but I agree so that's that's also Scott Wayne there we are contributing so better to a scholar thank you Robert Green let's just give him the writer's title on this one all right love it shall we go to tank radio appropriately in tank radio sonas I'm leaving it this is the Finnish Embassy is this what you talk about I think I just yeah okay so sauna diplomacy in Washington apparently the hottest place to hang out is at the Finnish Embassy in the sauna that's like the well hottest I realize what they did with that hottest place to have very good that's very good stereotypes all over the place but no so in Finland there's like a deep culture of saunas five and a half million people three million saunas in this place this is like Americans relationship with guns but I think saunas are probably healthier and less violent so there's the diplomatic sauna society apparently the Finns believe that having conversations in the buff is a pretty good way to have a deep meaningful connection and I think it's akin to the walking side-by-side that we talk about it a checkers are camp David you know your your in nature there's some vulnerability and like you can have a real conversation with somebody rather than sitting across the boardroom table the Finns belief that doing that in sauna is an effective way to have the real conversation with folks and it's a cultural I think touch-down form as well it's fascinating you wrote it you put this here I didn't I think beer it did but I yes and we're getting down to sort of Americans comfort with nudity anything yeah our purity yeah I mean it's just it's just kind of very that's just very common yeah across um yeah I've been and I I mean very spot you just sitting around it's it's very on um nudity and sexuality are distinct things yeah and so I don't even remember the Finnish Prime Minister got into trouble because she went clubbing uh I've got her name saunae um but the she was going through his divorce and she went clubbing she fully clothed yeah but it was having a great time and she got into like there was a lot of criticism that she wasn't being sober but I think naked meetings for the Finns in a sauna is perfectly acceptable because one was seen as sort of extravagant than the other wasn't but yeah I think yeah strummed down strummed down naked or they were in America just down to your pants getting a room sweating it out it's not bad thing and certainly side by side but but without doubt like changing venues and environments is great and I think this is great PR for the embassy in Finland and whichever press officer leaked this out it's a good job that's a good job great um should we stay with um generating heat in the diplomatic arena uh the arrest of uh Pavel Duran the CEO of telegram in Paris is just fascinating I can't stop reading about this so a formerly Russian national starts telegram this encrypted messaging service it is incredibly popular in central eastern europe and Russia as well as other parts of the world in the middle east as well um it is completely unregulated so unlike sort of nik like claiming that facebook has uh all of these sort of panels you know well it does have these panels and committees around ethics and and uh x twitter x x x twitter is you know has its guidelines and rules uh telegram is the gloves are off there's no moderation there's no content limits um and so this this young uh Duran he was I think I don't know how you pronounce his name Vera how would you pronounce Pavel Duran with a in Russian would it be that Duran Pavel how it goes the other way all right that's what I was gonna say okay she gets scary when she does that so valerio vich durov yeah anyway uh he took french nationality and mr arty nationalized so he lives in Dubai 30 30 something year old tech billionaire started this thing was very close to the russian government he then lands in a plane in Paris I think he's flying in from Azerbaijan and is arrested by french authorities and there's a big debate of was he really arrested or is he defecting is he defecting to the west and all of this quite interesting the timing is interesting because the russians are going insane about it public statements by the head of russian intelligence that this is this is a coup by the west in terms of taking this guy and the security of russian systems etc etc so is he defecting is he generally being arrested the french are prosecuting under law around facilitating organized crime and child pornography if that's the case there's some big ramifications for any other executive of any tech company in terms that which is a whole different subject but the timing is quite interesting because we had that prisoner swap just a few weeks ago and I don't there's no way the french would do this well they might it's unlikely the french would do this without at least giving the americans a heads up there's a chance that this is being led by the americans or another allied intelligence service along with the french but its effect is the same in that it doesn't matter whether this guy gives up the backdoor codes to telegram or not the russians think he might and so they kind of don't need to do anything at all after this they just they can just be it's ceded that down it's sort of closed down telegram as a trusted vehicle and so this is one of those where the the perceived threat is as real as the threat because it just has to get the worm just has to get inside the russian mind and then it should speak and frankly the Ukrainians as well the Ukrainians use it that it that it may be compromised and that's sufficient so just just that event itself though i tell you i wouldn't go if i'm in this hotel i wouldn't be going near any balconies i'll be checking it's a hotel i'll take the second floor thank you very much fascinating and he uh say he's a vegetarian doesn't drink alcohol take drugs uh consumed caffeine or fast food um so a limited thing limited uh selection by which to poison him so i would i see where you're at with that i'll just challenge whenever you meet these people who are like these acute overachievers and they work out 27 times a day and they don't they they don't take substances yeah they do it's just a self-generated substance that's kind of the point isn't it mate yeah okay it's out here uh yeah um it's durav by the way durav oh oh ai in my ipad corrected me boy ai very good truth anyway i'll make duran chavis has been running a telegram everybody thinks he's an urban urban food advocate and farmer but turns out that he was in aziracha watch that rumor gav for sure duran hey it's happily natural festival this weekend if you're an advertisement go to the happily oh hell yeah there you go in a van plug for duran oh hey i have to take this call oh are you actually go can i do i'll just stay here and fuck myself oh welcome back hollywood uh now you can hey the big case says hello no thanks where are we i lost my train of thought this is what happens when you take calls in the middle of e r r uh while i get my feedback under me let's go to periscope what do you got for us so i got a couple things p-yitty that's what i think i'm going to call you now we uh we talk about or we have talked about you as specifically uh that kind of retreat for men the men's getaway camp where they go and get fit and don't drink and just bro down in the forest somewhere and it's usually just you know well did i express it i thought that was dumb yes okay but it's usually just well to do already fit kind of got everything going on guys that can afford to go and do this kind of stuff and just be men in the forest where well you know when you do that in a pocket london they call it cotaging they call that something of lots of other places where you two describe it anyway we just buff up we get in the woods together we do many things yeah well well the australian government thought that they needed something similar for their agent the aging men's population no yes there's something called men's sheds like a shed like a workshop uh that the australian government uh started as a program for aging men in their communities so the men's shed is basically a place where men grown men of certain ages can go and you know woodwork and do carpentry and commune with other men that have little or nothing to do based on you know them being of a certain age maybe they're already retired families have moved on their single or widowed or what have you so it's like a a community-driven program that aims to benefit men's health mentally physically for them uh by bringing them together and giving them something to do and i just thought that was pretty cool oh this is one of those that i want to laugh at it but that's like it's a thing it's a little funny at first but then you dig into it's like okay well i see the the angle here so i'm looking at the australian say men don't talk face to face they talk shoulder to shoulder we're literally just talking about that with respect to like they we don't like we were talking about paddleboarding a couple weeks ago seven guys on the river suddenly talking about all kinds of things they're going side by side so the idea is you you sort of have a community shed where you work on stuff you pop in you talk yeah this is very good oh i mean perry you posted the u_s like but the australian's much better yeah fair dinkham builds do you know what fair dinkham is fair dinkham is like australian say this one it's like yeah it's all right i mean that's that's that's reasonable fair dinkham mate not fair dinkham that's so yeah that's weird um i think that's how they use phrase anyway i will be correct in that moment okay so what do you do what there's so many sorry there's scottish men's sheds you know what they do in scottish men's sheds they torture english men it's a bonding experience oh wow yeah okay just had to take it there that's kind of really great yeah it's pretty cool yeah all right we'll put a link in the yeah we've got the link forward we'll put a link in the imaginary newsletter um so moving on here scott and i you might you know i might be related genetically i can see it tell us yeah i i can see it a little bit here it sits in the eyes this is this is the this is the moment where the red warning the red warning light of being the one white man in a trio of three men goes so i uh keep going this is going to come off i uh i took it upon myself to to do a DNA test don't do it that's how they discover you murdered people well although find out eventually uh wanted to get some more uh info on my background and heritage and and you know my family and where my roots are so i went to ancestry.com is that an Alex Haley reference no it could be what's ancestry.com did the DNA tests and the results were surprising at the top of the list 28 england and north western europe including whales he's he paused because he's thinking i'm going to say anything about sheep and i'm not uh uh 23 percent digerian 13 percent camera and kango western betel peoples 11 percent iri coast 8 percent been in tinko or been in togo and then did the list just goes on at smaller percentages of african countries i mean so forensically europlans of of brit with west african yeah which suggests a pattern of behavior i presume i love that we've touched on thomas jefferson already today yeah we have which was just kind of funny that you chose to bring that up earlier um and it was our trip to yeah well i mean your trip to williamsburg kind of just sparked that off but yeah it was an interesting um it's interesting to see it on the map too it's kind of got a map map breakdown of the different areas and i'm you know looking at my history of my family members who are all born and raised in the u_s there's like one percent that's you know documentable in this whole kind of pie chart that's western uh united states or america's so i i saw you on answers because very nice is you know this because you also work from the studio but we said we sit side by side so yeah sometimes like we're just scouting what the other does looking at swedish you know handheld equipment videos and things but the i saw you on answers street dot com it's pretty sophisticated in terms of the you because you signed up for like the the premium yeah premium version and you know that so we touched on this and viro said stop talking talk about on the podcast is how far back can you go so you can also do a family tree and then it'll it'll pull information that other people that may be connected to your family and compile it into one big tree let me change the question how far can you go versus some of other Virginians who may not have your DNA makeup it's hard to say as far as i can tell uh two generations louisiana north carolina georgia yeah there's um the the conversation today around whether black in america ought to be capitalized probably lends to the conversation that we've just started i think because there's there's a big movement to capitalize black um generally because like we talk about african-americans and african-american is a very specific um very specific heritage in in that africans who came to america and through the diaspora considered african-american but some africans born in africa who moved here don't consider themselves african-american the consumers of africans who are american and so we've been having this conversation around black of late um and the the general premise is that black is its own um heritage it's its its its own thing in in that an english person an american with english heritage or lineage can trace their roots back to england and uh an american with french lineage can trace ourselves back to wherever in france generations and generations ago and by and large particularly through the the uh particularly through the slave trade we were brought here and stripped of any identity in order to homogenize us and take away our ability and or desire to form factions and potentially rise up like that was a general idea because we were stripped of identity very intentionally so we couldn't we were often placed in places where we didn't speak the same language as other slaves at the time and so over time just stripped and stripped and stripped over generations of identity intentionally so um to to lower our ability to revolt put us in a place where now tracing outside of modern technology now which is fascinating our ability to trace lineage back is really difficult um and there's often the elements of um you know english in your background scottish for me called there well was the original spelling of colwood yeah um and and minds even more recent in some of the transgressions from uh two scottish sailors with my great great grandma's mother is a whole thing like one of those things we don't talk about in the family but we know happened um anyway all of that is a stripping of identity and so there's a case to be made that black is actually as close as we have to an identity because of that intentional stripping or somebody might have english or french or nigerian we have black here for the specific group of americans descended from slaves uh via the diaspora it's fascinating it is that's kind of where we are today yeah it's cool to get that context you know uh you know tracing the roots back finding out your genetic heritage which country you hail from or your family hails from just kind of adds to the identity you know your makeup your personality your traits your family's traits it's all a part of that big puzzle that you know i feel a lot of black americans who don't have that direct descendant that lived in africa or lived in eastern europe they just don't have that connection so a little bit of context and identity is so beneficial can i may i ask the question of there's sort of two oh three questions so i'm gonna ask three questions and i'm gonna do something question one is black versus african-american discuss question two is as ancestry dot calm and 23 and me and all of these sort of things come and you find that you can go three or four generations back but i mean oh my god virginia i'm farquas myth is the 27th right comp how does that feel um and then sort of a question for you ace is and maybe it's tied to american african-american versus black is west indian into the u_s where the root from yeah so i'm leaving that with you and then we're doing this right yeah on record for those who can't see this guy has just put tape over his mouth so he can't contribute to this conversation so to the first the first question uh black versus african-american i've never identified as african i've only ever identified as someone who's born and raised in america so if black is a different way to say that i'm i like that that's a it is a very concise it's a very individual versus african versus just american i you know i do like that and like i like the context that it lends and again that identity kind of angle you aren't just someone who used to be african but has no african ties you're not just american because obviously you're brown and black being only from america as far as your family tree and as far back as you can trace it i like that yeah um yeah i use black african uh i think jesse jackson popularized the term african-american like it was like to try to tie some cultural heritage back to african kind of to your point i don't know that i feel or i've ever felt like that connection where i go my people are from i don't know where um i do know where and and and then to scott's point on west indian you know half of my family from the islands um my great grandma was a Dutch citizen before we bought the territories and so like that's how like not far removed like that kind of shift was and and even then um like arguably those roots tie back via saint kroy from saint thomas two parts of africa and yeah i've never felt that so west indian's closer because it's second generation for me my dad's from uh from the islands not on the other half of the family you know i've got a lot of things mixed in um so black has always been sufficient um west indian when it's convenient sure it's good with that this is a little area that's so good he's just attentively watching with his eyes uh-huh i didn't realize how expressive scott was through his mouth expressions yeah even while not talking and just the eyes are unsettling i don't care for it anyway uh i think we've answered all of the questions there was a third there was a i don't think we touched on it and he can't tell us what it was yeah so we'll move on we're moving on good route welcome back scott did you learn something i did actually there we go and we're moving should we yell at clouds before we get out of here american hover queuing that's not a thing america for the love of the gods stand in line or don't listen in america in australia germany we queue we stand in line it is a very clear line you are in a line in italy they don't they crowd and they yell in the drain either are great but this like you're terrified of standing close to another human being stuff how does one know whether it's a line or not and then you're outraged when you're pushed in where there is clearly a space hover queuing it is a just stop i'll tell you how you find out you go around to every single person in the general vicinity and say are you in line and the evidence that you hover queue is so many people asking is this a fucking line or not we just know it's just a step every america just one step forward i was at land better waiting for my coffee this morning and like clearly not in what would be a queue and the guy's like are you in line so i want to fuck would i be over here by the bench if i were going in the door why why are you asking me this question right now this is just ridiculous so here's my here's my observation if if there are fences you'll all stand really close to each other you go to theme park where like it's a fence oh yeah you're all right on top of each other yep take the fences away i'm like back up oh look our live audience is like oh there's a thing there is it's a thing all right don't even get me start on gate lice like that's a whole gate lice and whole gate lice you've gotten yourself started on gate lice continue now okay all right all right um well let me let me pick another thing to piss you off my friend about scott how do you feel about ripped off the top layer of skin on my lips how do you feel about roundabouts that too so here is some genuine guidance okay all right how do you roundabout to be fair to america like most stop sign intersections are smaller than the space that you would put around about in europe yeah and if you replace a stop sign with a little roundabout the whole point is priority is to the person on the roundabout but if you're only on the roundabout for a fraction of a second nobody really knows so i'm actually going to be sympathetic to americans with roundabouts if we're going to do them these little mini sizes it the whole thing just doesn't work the concept doesn't work um but but if you make them bigger it will but top tip if you want to see entertainment watch french people driving a british roundabout or a british person driving a french roundabout the rules are different but no country knows their rules are different and so the fury of not following the rules in france the priority is for the person getting on not the person on and in britain the priority is the person on not the person it's brilliant so so um the dutch have slightly different rules than americans do really um and it well particularly in the island so i say the dutch i mean like island the islands via the dutch um because you you drive in the same cars that we do stateside but you drive on the opposite you drive on your side in our cars it's wild so it's a it's a left-hand drive car but you drive on the left yeah yeah it's fascinating it's wild to watch so we don't oh so oh that breaks my tool for two oh so i had a tool well so the rule was always until you came along ruined it as i was the way you know what side of the road to drive on is if you're driving you should be in the middle of the road so you never have to worry about driving on the left or right is that the driver should be in the middle of the road because if you're in a country where you drive on the left the the driver's seat will be to the right and if you're on except if you're in the dutch island since he's out beauty of colonization here we go or a us mail truck or a us mail truck which is practical in in their defense um so yeah but like so my dad when he moved to dc which is one of the first places he lived he would just get locked in roundabouts he just couldn't get out like he could get into like a dupont circle or a logan circle and just just so dad what are you doing he's i just worried we live here now but no in in richmond we are patently awful at roundabouts and i i appreciate your point that roundabouts are smaller here and they don't actually work but you know what supersedes how the roundabout works is four fucking yield signs and you understand how yields work somebody is ahead of you you let them go you yield and people freak out like in the roundabout they're just like i have to stop i have to stop here to let that person come in and know you don't keep going you just just do what you're doing and if we do it well everybody wins but it's one of those nobody knows so everybody stops and i promise you the only thing four yield signs or around about is not is four stop signs that's what it's not i like do anything but use four stop signs there and you're probably good it's why listen i want to let's just celebrate american roundabouts one last bit so as you know i greatest thing about americans porches porches are great you sit on the porch you hear the neighborhood around so in my neighborhood they have those little tiny roundabouts that started just being painted and people would just drive over the top of them so their solution which is sort of like landscape it and build up the roundabout so it's a ramp and i would say twice a week you hear from and a car takes off over the roundabout and crashes and you're just like roundabout it's sort of balances out the gunshots they they put a really tiny one in in my neighborhood and realized that it was on a bus route and they had like a raised curb and the bus couldn't get around the tiny roundabout so they had to flatten it out so the bus can just drive over the roundabout is the most ridiculous thing so we're bad at them but people are bad at stuff that's the takeaway let's let let's let these people go so uh where where are you next week um Pier spelled like Pierre South Dakota oh i'm joining you there we're meeting up there yeah we are going to the Badlands i mean Tampa then Minneapolis and then i'll be meeting you in the Badlands we'll go from South Dakota to Irvington for heads up if you have any thoughts about breaking down silos in organization we're going to be recording some of our executive education content literally at Miss Silos in the middle of South Dakota there we go you heard it here second if we you could use a metaphor or just literally go to a sideline we're not that clever anyway i'm Ace Colwood and i'm Scowaway and this was something i'll see you next time
