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It's time for another edition of the Bone Podcast. If I get three pairs of shoes from a collective 14 gifts, I'm good. On today's program, we flip the script on Boney. With our 141, his second home run in his many nights and his 37th of the year. Today, we stick him under the lights and shove a mic in his face. And I mean, we're flying through these treeline trails going a thousand miles an hour. He is CBS Sports Radio host and the executive producer of the Bone Podcast, Rich Herrera. I want to know about you guys. What was like growing up around your dad while he was playing with you guys were younger? Now, in its fourth year, this is the one and only Red Bone Podcast. Hello again, everybody, and welcome to turning to a Boney. I'm Rich Herrera, executive producer of the Bone Podcast and host of the Infinity Sports Network. That, of course, is Bret Boon. We do this once a week where we get to ask Boon questions today. Hey, don't forget, we're always looking for mailbag questions. So if you want to be part of the podcast, we ask you to please email us, Bret Boon, at BretBoon10iyahu.com, BretBoon10iyahu.com. If we use it, we'll send you an autographed Bret Boon baseball card. Again, I'm always looking for people to subscribe. And to leave us reading that helps us grow the podcast. Boon, how are you? Doing good, Rich. It must be football season. You have a jersey on, but I am pleasantly surprised. What's that? That you don't have a backwards hat on. I did that last year and you got mad at me for the baseball cap backwards. Is that a bad look? You know, it's like tank tops of the gym. Unless you're artificial, you do this for a living guy, bodybuilder, fitness. You're going to be on stage competing for a trophy. Those guys, they can wear the tank tops. If you're under 21 and you're just a kid and you're in high school and you're getting used to it, you're a child. Of course, you can wear a tank top. When you're in there training, even if you're in pretty good shape, tank tops are a no. Backward hats at a certain age, same thing. My kids coming home from college, backwards hats, fine. Backward hats, I'm not as stringent on, but when you get to a certain age, the backwards hat, ah, it's too much. It's look how young I am. What about going to what about at a game? Can I wear the cap backwards at a junior at your age? No, I'll let you do this. If it's getting in your way on a golf shot, you may turn it around, but then get it back in the correct position. Forward adult like. Yeah, I don't like the backwards cap. At a certain age, get to the point, keep that hat turned the correct way. What about if I'm sitting at the game and joining the game? I'm from sitting at sports. No, because if they happen, no, especially not at a sports bar. If I were to catch you, one of my buddies on camera with a hat backwards, unless, hey, if you're a photographer and you're taking a picture, you got to whip it around. If I'm Mike Sagueras to the 49ers. You're fine. Oh, yeah, that's part of your thing. That's what photographers do. They turn around, but for a regular adult at a certain age, to throw the cap on backwards. I think it's nonsense. I see people on podcast all the time. Look at my hat backwards. Don't aren't I hip? Now you're a clown. So wait a second. So what you're telling me is there are three. I'll tell you what. I've hit some golf shots though on Instagram, you know, because I do Instagram stuff once in a while silly stuff. I don't necessarily love it, but I'll hit a golf shot. And once in a while, I'll throw my cap on backwards. And then I have the excuse of, no, whatever the rim of the cap is getting in the way of my shadow, it's distracting me. So that's acceptable. Okay. So what you're saying is there's three people walking the face of the earth right now that are allowed over the age of 30 to wear their caps backwards. Mike Sagueras. No, no, I got three. Let me give you the three, right? I'm gonna give you more than 30 though. No, you can be 30 and get around. You can get away with that. Okay, how old? How old? I think when you're retired, you're a retired athlete. That's not me. No, there's not that mean I'm a retired athlete. I know, I know, but that's what's a retired athlete. Let's go 35. 35, you're off the field of play. Yeah, so what you're telling me is the only people allowed to wear back backwards baseball caps. Griffith age of 35, three people. Junior, because he's a photographer, right? Junior, no, junior can wear it because he's junior and he coined that. That's a part of his little-- He's a photographer. Well, he could double wear it then. Okay. The big unit. Photographer. Photographer. In Mike Sagaris, the 49ers photographer. Absolutely. For those three, other than that, nobody else. No, I mean, if you're wearing a cap and you're painting on the job, it requires you. You're getting to a nook and cranny. Because of C.K., we paint stuff up in Northern California. He could do that. Right, so for certain occupations, if it becomes a hazard, the forward front cap, you may turn it around. Anything short of that? For-- I'm talking strictly for style points like, let me turn this hat around backwards, because I think I look cool. You're done with me. No, illegal. What about a coach in the sideline? If it's getting in the way of the mic or something on his person that's interfering with his job, absolutely. Anything short? Like I said, it's-- I see, it's a coordinators with their caps on backwards. Assistant coaches? Is it interfering with their job? It's just part of their look. No, it's stupid. I have one. If you're putting it on for a look. No. I have one that's part of my game day uniform. I'll wear a jersey and I've got a salute to service 49ers cap with a camouflage bill that I'll wear backwards, because that's just the best way it looks. Not in my presence. Okay, what about dad caps? Do you know what a dad cap is? What's a real flat? Like a-- Like the cotton caps. They're like real-- Real low profile. Yeah, those are called dad caps now. I love them. They're my favorite. Because those are what dads wear to mow the lawns, and now college kids think they're cool to wear dad caps. I love them. I think those are kind of the-- they're the old school baseball caps. They're the caps that you were wearing that you pull out of your pocket and throw one in 1952. Those are still my favorite caps to this day. Were you wearing backwards? No. You're not a cap guy. Why am I taking advice from you? You're not even wearing hats. Right. I'm being very matter of fact and drawing lines when really, at the end of the day, I really don't pay that much attention. How many caps do you want? Right, 500. Do you really? Yeah, I've got a cap collection. Can I show you mine? Sure. This is just here. In the-- That's just my caps. If you're watching on YouTube, those are just my daily caps that are in the rotation. I've got probably 1,000 caps in the bedroom. Yeah. I got more caps than Brett Boone has gold gloves. I have a ton of caps, and I rarely wear-- well, I do wear one golfing now, just strictly from a sun thing. Right. But if it's cloudy yet, I don't wear a cap. I don't wear a cap. I don't wear a cap in the house, even if I'm not leaving the house for the day. I wore a cap my whole life for my occupation, and now I don't wear them. But unlike the movie for the love of the game, you never wear your gamer out in public. Do you? No. No. That's-- Rookies do sometimes though. No, that's a no-no. You don't wear any team issued merchandise-- that merchandise-- team issued. So a t-shirt, any sort of jersey whatsoever, any sort of ball cap. While you're playing with the team is an absolute no-no. The other day, I took my dog for a walk, and I had these shorts. And I have this Padres jersey, not jersey. It's a t-shirt that I got from when I went to fantasy camp, and it really matches these shorts. Well, I put it on, and I even felt funny walking around with it. At this stage of my life, where in the last thing on Earth, I should worry about is feeling funny. I felt weird having a Padres jersey on, because I actually played for the Padres at one point. That felt a little weird to me. And less it's in an official capacity-- fantasy camp, autograph signing, meet and greet. Then you have the uniform, whatever you have on. That's fine, but outside personal use walking the dog. I felt a little funny having the Padres jersey on. Would you wear just a t-shirt that said mariners or reds or a hoodie? No, not unless it was an official event. We're going to the beach. It's you, me, the dogs. We're going to the beach. It's a little chilly. You're like, "Oh man, rich, I'm cold. Here, Brad, I got this sweatshirt. You want to wear it?" No. And it's a reds hoodie. No. But isn't this kind of weird with how I think I would-- Oh, it's very weird. I would put on a USC hoodie. Why? Why is that okay? Because I wasn't a professional there. And I'm just kind of a weird rule. I'm paying tribute to my alma mater. By the way, isn't it alma mater if you don't graduate? Yeah, because you know what I discovered this weekend on Wikipedia? I have no clue. I laugh because I didn't graduate. I didn't graduate from school. I just started getting into broadcasting and never went back and finished the last few classes. And my friends always harassed me about that. But I don't know why I was looking this up. And I went to Cal State Bakersfield, where I went to school. And they had notable alumni. And like Kevin, Karthi went there. There's a couple. Tito Ortiz went there. NFL player went there. Steven Neala won a bunch of Super Bowls for the Patriots. We've talked about him on the podcast. And under notable alumni, Rich Herrera. So I told all of my buddies, look, Rich Herrera, notable alumni. CSU Bakersfield. And they all rolled their eyes and said, "Harera, why are you editing?" I didn't edit that. I was somebody else put it on there. I'm just, you know, if they want to honor me as an alumni, go ahead. Not a baby. That make your week? No, but it allowed me to harass friends and I hadn't talked to in a while. Good. So anyway, let's just get to the podcast, shall we? Now that we've gotten all the Fashtips, anything else that we're not allowed to wear? Dark socks with sandals? Once again, it's an age thing. Once you get to a certain age, you can do anything you want. And I just look at guys like that and go, "You know what? You do whatever you want. You've been on this Earth this long. You've earned the right. You do whatever you want to do." No, there's some stuff you can't do like we're involved with. When you get to a certain age, you do whatever you want. Man bun. Just say whatever you want. If you can rock a man bun at 85, rock it. And I'll say, "That looks good on you." But there's not too many people rocking the man bun at 85. You got to be pretty old to be able to do whatever you want, like I said. So yeah, certain age, anything goes, certain age, nothing goes. Other than hat forward, correct attire, maybe a Boone podcast t-shirt. That's more than acceptable. Here's the weird thing, Rich. I wear that Boone podcast, the Brett Boone podcast t-shirt with my, you know, my logo on the front. Right. Hold on a minute. Okay. Let me show you. Brett's going to, for those of you listening, Brett's going off camera right now, grabbing something out of his pecta tricks. Okay. All right. Now he's coming back here. For those of you listening to the Boone podcast or watching it, what, this is for you watching it on YouTube. Got these new shirts. They're pretty cool. I dig. Can you see that? The Boone podcast t-shirt. That's the OG one. I dig. Yeah. I dig the picture. Now, if they're walking behind me, it's got a gigantic QR code. It's got a QR code. It's got a QR code bigger than numbers in the back of a jersey. So here's the thing. I walk, I get everybody behind me on purpose and then really never turn around. So if, you know, the, the curious mind wants to go, what the hell is he got on that QR code? So they shoot it and it downloads the Boone podcast. I'm shameless when it comes to that. I walked it. I told, did I tell you about my story walking on a plane? No, I walk on this plane. I forget where I was going. This is probably within a month and I got my Boone podcast shirt on. And I walked with the big QR code in the back. No, I didn't have the QR code yet. I just had the, I had the picture. And a lady grabs me in the front row, pulls, like pulls me down to whisper in my ear and she goes, I loved him. And I looked at her and I thought she was playing the game with me. Like she knew it was me. She was just going to say, ah-ha-ha funny. Hey, Brad, how you doing? So I gave her a second to find out. Yeah, you're kidding, right? Wasn't kidding. Had no clue it was me. She said that, which in one way it was pretty cool. There in another way. I'm going, do I look that old that you don't recognize the guy on the front of the shirt? Oh, that is outstanding. But I'm shameless. I wear it all the time. I wear it all the time. I have people come up to that. That's a really cool shirt. And half of them have no clue. I said, and then I stick around. It's like, that's me. That's like Jimmy Fallon would do this. One of the late night shows would do this with Yankees and Mets. They'd send him out into New York with a photo. Hey, what do you think of this guy? And some like, ah, he's okay. Ah, guys, a bomb. All one big fan of his. So we could do that with Brett Boone. Hey, what do you think of this guy? I'm sure you heard of the Brett Boone podcast. If you see me on an airplane or you see me at the airport. Sometimes I do rock the Brett Boone podcast. You know what I want to do? I want to take. If we have somebody in Seattle that we're willing to wear the Boone podcast t-shirt. To a Mariners game and just walk for nine innings. Oh, you got to rock it. Yeah, just walk around. By the way, people that want them and they'll come up to help. Can I get one of those shirts? It's a prerequisite. I said, will you rock the shirt? Everybody wants a shirt. I don't care if you want a shirt. You need to rock the shirt. I don't care if you want to cut it up. Make it a half half shirt like it's 1982. Feel free. But if you will rock the shirt, I will give you a shirt. If you're just going to have it just to have, put it in your little collection. Wait a minute, Brett Boone podcast t-shirt isn't for you. I need to see you rocking it. So let me make sure we got this right. You won't wear a sweatshirt t-shirt. Nowhere a fitted cap from teams you've played with, because there's absolutely not. But you will wear it shamelessly, your own t-shirt. Shameless. Yeah, shamelessly wearing your own t-shirt. OK, I got it. You know where I get the shameless from? I get it. I get it. Bigger Phelps said to be shameless in promoting your program. Yes. In your content. Enough about me with stupid rules. All right. This is all good fun. Oh, by the way, when you go to the gym, you said tank tops? No, bueno? No, no. What about cut off t-shirts? Does Boone Rocka t-shirt with the sleeves cut off? I wear a t-shirt. Like I said, if you're competing, if you're one of those legit bodybuilder guys, that's just ripped. You can wear those stringy t-shirts, kids, high school college. You're fine. You're still a kid. But when you get to 30 responsible adult age, into my category, it's like, what do you look? What are you going to show me that you have big biceps? Come on. I can see whether you have or not. I love the people rocking it. They look horrible at it. I want to see Brett Boone wearing the Oakleys, the rapper. I used when I was a player, and I trained in the offices, and I trained in a tank top. Yeah. And that was to see my progress. Because that's back when I was rigorous. And I was looking at every nook and granny. I was in the mirror making sure my diet was really paying off. But you're still a professional athlete. A lot of you can get away with being a professional athlete. But once it's over, you need to start acting like a responsible adult. I want to see Brett Boone walking around wearing a reds cap. Wrap around Oakleys. With a braved logo on it. With a braveds logo on it. Padre slides. Yes. And mariner shorts or maybe tank top and jorts. Have you ever worn jorts? No. Oh, you look good in jorts. What are jorts? Gene shorts. Oh, as John Cena wears. Absolutely not. Because there's only two people that can wear jorts. My old roommate, Brian Stiefader, who still wears them, is John Cena. And little kids. I don't know if anybody can wear a shirt. No. What's her name? Kid do it. No, those are Daisy Dukes. Oh, you're talking men. Oh, I'm wearing joy. Yeah. Little kids. John Cena in my roommate from college, Tatum, the amazing girl. Oh, little kids. Little kids can get away with anything. Little kids can wear shoes. They don't know any better. Even high school kids. How do I wear whatever you want? Like I see a little kid wearing cowboy boots and scrum trunks. Those are the best. You're a kid. Wear anything you want. And when you're really, really old, wear whatever you want. I'll help you across the street. All right, let's talk baseball for just a minute. What's better than watching your team win, winning money while you do it? 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We analyze route running, target share and all the metrics that matter, giving you the insights you need to draft the best wide receivers. As you prep for your draft, let us give you the coverage you need. Follow and listen to Reception Perception on the free Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcast. We're coming towards what three weeks left in the season? Three weeks. The is it just me or does the pennant push seem a little meh this year? Not as exciting as it was last year. According to CBS Sports.com, the Yankees have 99.9% chance of making the postseason. Baltimore 99.8. No, I think it's just as exciting. I mean, I think, you know, the- It's not really a fist fight is there? Yeah, the NL. The NL's got some interesting, interesting matchups. LA is going to win their division. Philly is going to win their division. It just doesn't seem as do or die to me right now. Milwaukee is going to win their division, but it's the wild card races that are exciting. You know, San Diego, man San Diego is as good as anybody for me in the national lake. And it played as good as anybody for the last two months and better. Arizona has also made an unbelievable run. The Braves have had an off year for them, but they pitch. They really pitch rich, both starting rotation and pen headed up by by Chris Salle is going to win the when the Cy Young award. But it's it comes down to Atlanta. I've always thought they were shoeing and come in second place and, you know, under the Phillies. But the Mets have made a push. And now that the 911 over the last 10 games were Atlanta. And the Mets, right? Arizona scored six San Diego five and five. Well, here's how it as of today. And in this podcast will be broadcast today on Monday. That's why I'm wearing my 49er gear. What's up? It'll be OK. Yeah, San Diego and Arizona, I think are going to be wild card representatives. But Atlanta, New York, the fact that Atlanta, if they don't play good for the next three weeks, could be next from the from the wild card is interesting to me. The Mets have been really resilient. They started out. 91, 91, nobody gave the match a chance and they're sitting there right there. If it ended today, they'd be in a playoff, but they'd be in the wild card. Yeah. So that's interesting. I think the Cubs and St. Louis, I don't think they're going to make it. There's not enough there's not enough time left. Move over to the American League. Yankees are going to or Yankees are Baltimore. Doesn't matter which, they're both going to the postseason. One of them that's been a pillow fight the whole year within a half game. Game Yankees right now lead that division. Cleveland and Houston, you know, Houston was dead and buried two months ago. The Mariners had a 10 game lead in that division. Squandered that away as we sit today. The Mariners are four and a half behind Houston. Houston's getting healthy right now. Other bullpens getting healthy, turning back into one of those power bullpens in the game. And their starting rotation is pretty formidable. It's going to be a heavy lift for those Seattle Mariners to catch Houston. And I think Houston's going to go to the postseason. That being said, I think only one team's going to be represented in the American League West, whoever wins that division. I don't think a wild card's coming out of there. Kansas City's been an unbelievable story. They've been great. The Minnesota Twins not talked about a much like the Cleveland Indians, but as of today, they're sitting there. Detroit's been playing great. I mean, I counted Detroit out probably three weeks ago. They've been playing great and they're sitting three and a half games out. It's going to be tough. Seattle's three and a half games out. I just I just see Baltimore. I think the American League, the way it sits right now, those six teams, Yankees, Cleveland, Houston, Baltimore, Kansas City and Minnesota. I'd be surprised if those weren't the six representatives from the American League. National League, more wide open. All right, let's go rapid fire because I got a bunch of stuff I want to get to today. I'm not hearing a lot of buzz for Otani, an opportunity for 50-50, but I hear more people talking about Caitlyn Clark than I do about show Hey, Otani right now. Caitlyn Clark, I never thought I'd watch one WNBA game in my life. I like Caitlyn Clark. I think she's had an excitement. Everybody loves to hate on her. It's funny. It's like, why do they not like this girl? Everybody's talking about, oh, yeah, it's going to be a rude awakening for this girl. Why? And it's not been a rude awakening. So I love that watching this and I love her just watching her throw up half court shots and make threes all over the place. I think it's a great story. I think it's great for the WNBA and the eyeballs that it's brought to their league that has been a much needed thing. I think it's a great story. And I look, Rick, I'm going through my TikTok. I'm going through my TikTok and I'll stop for a Caitlyn Clark. Why are you on TikTok? I'm driving this. Hey, because I'm, I don't know. That's why. Because you're secretly an adding junior high. I mean, okay, but see that proves my point. You're more excited about Caitlyn Clark than people are about show Hey, Otani. Well, you're getting to the point with show. Hey, where maybe you're taking them for granted. Because it's so great. I went in and get my car service today and the gentleman there, Derek. He's asking me, Brett, tell me about show Hey, how good is he? I said, this guy's unbelievable. And he's not even pitching next year on a bad year. He's going to be the number two in a in an L.A. Dodger rotation on top of what he does offensively. You know, nobody's ever gone 46-46. Now that being said, with these new rules, the disengagement, yes, it's much easier to steal bases in 2024 than it ever has been. You still got to go steal the bases. Right. And 20 years from now, no one's going to talk about that. No, here's what I think. Here's what I think is going to happen. You're going to have to change something. I think it was brilliant what Major League Baseball did. And I was against it when they did it, whereas the two disengagements. But the whole point was to encourage people to steal bases again. Now the player said, all right, well, I can get some bags by doing this. So it worked because before nobody was stealing bases. Now the sudden stolen bases becoming a thing again. Once it becomes normal to that being a big part of your offense, stealing bases, I think they're going to go have to tweak that rule and not make it as easy. And it's tough on the catchers and the pitchers to hold runners at first base. So I think in the short term, it's done exactly what they wanted to do. Added excitement. People are stealing bases again. Akuna a year ago stole 70 bases. But I think they're going to have to throttle it back a little bit and tweak. I don't know what the answer is, but there's going to be some ramifications or some tweaking to that current rule of two disengagements. Okay, I just want to spend a minute, 60 seconds on this. Saw play this weekend, San Francisco Giants taking on the San Diego Padres. Feliciano had been the starting anointed shortstop beginning of the season. Didn't hold on to that job. Now he's been shifting around, moving over to second base. Fitzgerald was his double play combination pop up. On the second base side, Feliciano's calling it off, but not really being demonstrative. It's Gerald, who's the shortstop. He rules the roost from the shortstop position. Both of them kind of don't call each other off and the ball drops. And they both just stand there looking at the ball. Runner gets over to second base. What happens? Well, you're correct on the shortstop is there's a pecking order and it's very simple. You know, on the infield side, the second baseman overrules the first baseman. On the left side of the infield shortstop. Third baseman overrules the third baseman. Wait a minute, stop, stop, stop. Who over? Okay, let me go back again. shortstop, who does he have precedent over? shortstop has precedent over the entire infield. Okay, but let's just stick to the left side. It's obvious. Well, let me walk you through it. He has precedent over everybody in the infield. Who second in command? Second baseman. Second baseman. Third and command? Nobody. Okay, it's in that if it's in that vicinity. Outfield center fielder overrules. Center fielder overrules everybody. Okay, for center fielder coming in on a play. shortstop going back. Second baseman going back. Center fielder. Center fielder. Why? I'll make it simple for you. The outfielder always has precedence on a pop-up over an infielder. No matter if it's a shortstop or not. shortstop is the king of the infield. Because he's backing out. Correct. Anytime we're backing up from the infield, the outfield always has precedence. Because that's the way it is. It's even easier for them. They can see the whole play. I'm running. Right. Sometimes from my backs to the ball, the center fielder always has precedence over the right fielder and the left fielder. He's the captain of the outfield. The shortstop in the infielder, even though he comes on my side of the bag, the shortstop comes on the second base side. Larkin comes over on your side. If Larkin comes to my side and is yelling, "I got it, I got it." My job as the second baseman, get out of the way and let Larkin have it. Now I'm going to learn better. Get out of here, this is my ball. Of course, I'm going to say that after he catches the ball. But it doesn't matter. If I go into Johnny Olerude's space, stand on first base bag and call it. Johnny's job is to get out of my way. That's just the way it is and that's the pecking order. Always has been so. You talk about that play the other day. If the shortstop comes on the second base side of the bag, yes, I'm camped as a second baseman. I'm camped. Yellow dango, yellow dango. You know it doesn't matter. It does matter. If the shortstop calls you off, get out of the way. Just like if I'm going out, I'm camped under a ball in shallow right field. And my right fielder screaming at the top of his lungs, "I got it, I got it, I got it." My job is to get out of his way. He's going to come in, make a play, and then I'm going to look at him and go, "What are you doing?" And now sometimes he didn't see me. He didn't see how camped I was. He was just concentrating on the ball. But that is the short order of pecking order. Communication. Because they didn't do a very good job of it. And that happens once in a while. And sometimes you never know. It could be a windy day, big crowd. They're yelling. They didn't hear it. They had too soft of a tone. You work on this in spring training. And you get to be a 10-year or 15-year-bigly guy. And you're still working on calling people off. And you sit there and you laugh at yourself, like, "Really, are we doing this drill?" But there's a reason for it. And when you call it, it's loud. It's not, "I got it, I got it, I got it." I mean, it's let him know. Let everybody know. Yeah. What about waving your arms? Yeah, whatever you need to do. "I got it, I got it, I got it." It's usually a three call. It's, "I got it, I got it, I got it." And it's loud. And that's what we work on in spring training. And as tedious as it is, it may come to play. Back in the day, I mean, you might be playing in hostile territory. You might be in the old Metro Dome in Minnesota, where you can't hear yourself think. And you've got to be demonstrative, waving your arms screaming at the top of your lungs. Now, you might be at a game in Chicago, where you can hear a conversation from a guy in the third row. You're not going to have to yell that loud. But for the most part, big league baseball, especially as we get close to the playoffs, there's some hostile environments and some real loud crowds, which makes for a great excitement at the same time. You got to be a little bit more. I remember one time going into a big series in Minnesota, back in the day when they were going to pack the dome. We went over it before the series, the calls. Like, "Hey, you got to be loud when calling the balls." So, yeah, it's tedious. Show me. Show me what it's goofy. What are you talking about? Do it right here on the podcast. I was even here. I'm standing here, ready to catch the ball. Call me out. You're camped. So when you're camped, you're going to be going like this. I got it. I got it. I got it. I'm going to let you have it. Now, if I'm going to overrule you, I'm going to come in. I got it. I got it. I got it. And I got it. If you're the first baseman, you better get the hell out of the way. Now, just as if the right fielder's yelling at me, I better get out of the way. What about the pitcher? Pitcher, he's the worst on the field. He's the non-atlete that we like to call. He points up what's he supposed to be? Very, I've seen a pitcher make a play before. He calls you me off like that. Brett Galloway. He's not supposed to. Pitcher knows to flee the area. Unless in an absolute emergency, the pitcher, we want the pitcher out of the play. It's just like a rundown. We want the pitcher never handling the ball. You want the skill position players handling the ball. You always want your middle infielders handle on the ball. But when pushcubs the shove, an emergency, and the pitcher has to step in, if it results in getting it out, then it works. But yes, it all costs on a serious note. On a serious note, you always want the pitcher out of it. So that's why we see the pitcher kind of peel out of the way. Yeah, and usually there's a laugh there like, yeah, you guys don't want me involved. All right, but when I was in Atlanta, because those guys were as good defensively. I was going to say, come on. Glavin wants to catch a ball. Well, Maddox won 17 gold gloves, and he wants to. But we're still getting Maddox out of the way. But once in a while, he'll probably show that, oh, this is why I'm Greg, and he'll make a play. But for the most part now, general rule, get him out. By the way, we've just, we've had them on the show. How does a, oh, my wife's coming in, yelling at me to make, we're making too much noise. Sorry, honey. She's over here disturbing the middle of the podcast. Oh, she's yelling at me. Hey, people, the neighbors are complaining because I was yelling yellow dango. The neighbors were? Sorry. How does somebody win a gold-gloved picture? What do they do? Well, it's Glavin so good that he has like 20 million more gold gloves than you do. No, no. Maddox does. Maddox. That was, how does Doggy have more gold gloves than bread pudding? I'll tell you there, their gold gloves are just kind of, they're never, this is going to get back to him. So now they're earned by being a great defender, the way you defend your position. And sometimes it takes a while to win your first gold glove. But once you win them, as long as you keep that up, especially in my day, it was tough to lose the gold glove. Once you kind of took over the gold glove, you usually started to win multiples in a row. And Maddox was, he was great. He was a great fielder. And that was noted at the end of the year. Did he help you? No. Let's not get carried away with a pitcher being a great defender being, they're really a great defender. They're a great defender for a pitcher. Okay. I'm not going to have Greg turning a double player playing short. But for, I'll tell you what, for fielding his position. And there is some YouTube videos of Maddox defensively. He made some unbelievable plays that I don't know too many pitchers can make that play. Do you want pitchers touch the ball, ball hit back up the middle? Do you want a pitcher to get the heck out of your way? Or do you want him to try? That's the tough one. And because it's a reactionary play, and you need to know where your defense is situated from pitch to pitch. So a lot of times you see them reach out. It would have been. And then the ball. Right, right to where a defender was. But that's just a reaction. That's the thing. Ball's coming at you. You just react. Now, if we were all that smart, we could say, oh, no, I know my second baseman's there and let it go. But who's that quick to think like that? That's why you always see pitchers hitting it, deflecting. When it would have been a can of corn double play ball. And then you kind of see the frustration on their face like, I would have just let it go. That would have been a double play. Now it's a hit and they've got a rally goal. But that's something you can't really. I can't put on a pitcher and say, how dare you? That's a reactionary play. Okay, you ready to go rapid fire? Got a bunch of football stuff to throw at you. Fans getting personal this weekend. Daniel Jones, quarterback, New York football giants did not have a great game. Fans were heckling them. They waited hours for him to come out. I saw that. I saw that footage. Saw that these they went hours from to come out of the locker room just to ask him for his money to to get a refund their money back. Right. I wanted to get your reaction to the fans getting personal, not just booing you but but making it personal. Well, I think football fans and baseball fans are different. That's being said, football fans are a little more. They get down in the mud a little bit more, especially I remember up in Oakland. We played the Coliseum. Coliseum were different. There were football fans at the Coliseum and they would get personal. I think anytime for an athlete, it comes with the territory. He signed on the dotted line. Part of it is you're going to be critiqued and sometimes critiqued to the point where you don't really like it. But that's part of the game and that's what you signed up for. And that's why you do make the money you make. So you got to have tough skin. You got to have thick skin. He knew he was going to take a lot for for his performance. But I think there is a line that you can cross as a fan. You know, there's a certain line and I don't think I don't think there's anything distinctive. I can say like, oh, this is the line. I think you use your best judgment as people. And just use your judgment of what's over the line. Something where somebody's yelling at you and you're kind of, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they say something and it makes you, your head go on a swim and go, wait a minute. You can't say that. Everybody knows everything knows. I mean, in baseball, right. In baseball, you get that. People talk about your mom and you're it's like, really? You go to that point. What's that say about the person? Correct. I mean, if I'm going to sit there, I told you, we had JT Snow on the program last week, that I would have to sit in the parking lot for an hour and a half for JT to walk by, because then my then fiance now wife wanted to see JT Snow because she was in love with them. Okay, that's one thing. Sitting there for two hours waiting for him to come out so you can mouth off at him anonymously because he doesn't know who you are. It's not like I've got a big sign that says, "Rich's auto body repair." You can find me tomorrow at 8 a.m. It's just you're just some faceless fan who's going to get your jollies by making yourself feel better by crapping on him. It's just like in-person Twitter. That's right. You know, there's velvet ropes. You know, there's a fence in between. You know, there's security there. So it's in-person Twitter. And for people that do that, I guess they have a right to do it. Sure. But at the same time, you just use common sense. You know, there's a line that you shouldn't cross. We have to have thick skin. Like I said, I mean, I've been called a lot of things and I just kind of, this goes along with a job. But you know what? For the most part, fans are great. No, they are. Fans are complimentary. They're empathetic when you're struggle, which as an athlete, I hated that. But they do care. And very rarely did I get to a point with a fan where it became a problem. Very rarely. Most of the encounters where boom, you stink, we're going to kick your ass. And yeah, whatever. And then usually if you do well, they're very, they're very, yeah, they applaud it. And I'll tell you what, they'll go to Yankee Stadium, go 0-4-4 and screw up a double play. And I'm going to hear it. But pretty much the sentiment is, all right, wait until tomorrow. Yeah, boom, wait until tomorrow. We'll get you tomorrow. And then if you get them tomorrow, they will let you know that they appreciate that. So most 95% of my interaction with fans were positive, even if they were critiquing me. Okay. And then a small percentage, they kind of cross that line and there's a problem, and maybe security got involved. Okay. I'm going to ask you to be as vulnerable as I've ever asked you to be on the podcast. Go on. You take that way. All the Brent Boone persona, bat flips, everything else, right? I want you to be completely candid and honest and open with us. For Daniel Jones, he got booed. The Steelers got booed this weekend. Deshawn Watson got destroyed by his fans. I want you to tell me what it's like to be booed by your own fans. Well, I had the luxury of my name being Boone. So I could always, in my brain, come up with it. They couldn't possibly be booing me. They're booing me because everybody would boo me when I did well. So I always could go to that tape now. That being said, I can decipher. I can tell the difference between. I can decipher your own fans. It is. I'll tell you what, it's tough. It is tough. And does it hurt? It hurts. It's not an anger thing. It's not, I'm pissed at you how dare you boo me. I'm playing my ass off for you. No, it's kind of like your mom or your dad when they're disappointed in you. It's not that, yeah, it's like, gosh, I don't want to, you know, I want to push the envelope with mom and dad. I want to get my way all the time. But when they're really genuinely disappointed in, they're not yelling at you anymore. They're just kind of looking at you like, son, I'm really disappointed in your behavior. And you're kind of like, gosh, you know, I love getting my own way. But man, I hate when dad gives me that look like not anger. He's just disappointed in me. That's how you feel. Remember, like you let your, like you let your grandfather. Yeah, because the last thing you want to do is let him down. You want to play good. You want to make all the money you can make. But at the end of the day, when, especially when you're playing, it's not about the paycheck. It's about doing my job and proving that I'm worthy of doing this job. And I felt a couple of lean years in Cincinnati. I could hear, they were never bad to me. I mean, where I got booed out of the stadium. But I could hear him and it, oh, it genuinely cuts you. I mean, it's an emotional cut. Like I said, there's no animosity. There's no anger. It's not like screw these fans. It's kind of like a moment for you to reflect and go, wow, he's, they're really disappointed in me. Because I would probably the same guy or the same woman. He's wearing my jersey. That was wearing my jersey cheering me a year ago. And man, look at my numbers and the way I played the last two months. I kind of deserve it. At the same point, I, I'm pissed at myself for, for putting him in a spot where he had to boo me. So it's, it's an emotional roller coaster. But yeah, it's not an anger thing. It's not, you don't get disgusted. I hate this city. I hate this team. It's more of, man, I wish I, I need to find a way to, to, to write the ship. So they don't, I don't give him an excuse to boo me. Okay. One more thing I want to talk about. Hey, by the way, don't forget we're looking for your, your emails, Brett Boone 10 at Yahoo.com, Brett Boone 10 at Yahoo.com. If we use your question of the year, we will send you a Brett Boone autograph baseball card. And can we throw in a sticker? You may have the sticker. The sticker it goes right along with the, with, yeah. See, I've got my Brett Boone pod. Oh, it's badass. Sticker that I've got on my water bottle. With the QR code, which also comes on the new Brett Boone podcast. Sure. You are so just tremendous. Okay. Dak Prescott, Cowboys quarterback, right? And waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting. Probably two years for his new deal. He got it, Brett. Four years, 240 million dollars. He is now the highest paid player on the national football league. 60 million dollars a year is his AV. We could talk, then I could talk about this with anybody about, well, what do you think about somebody making that much money? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Right. But I'm going to, I'm going to do something different because this is the Boone podcast. I could save that for my talk shows. I want to know from you as a professional athlete, what kind of pressure comes with that kind of contract that they're throwing everything in the house at you? What kind of pressure? Obviously, nobody else knows what it's like to play for 60 million dollars a year, not even Tom Brady. But, Brett, I think you could give us a perspective. What kind of pressure comes with that kind of deal? Well, here's what I think. And I've talked about this with some players from my time in the big leagues. It seemed like the money was starting to get good at the end of my career. And we were fortunate to make a lot of money, not like the money they're making today, but nevertheless, a lot of money. For your time, for your time. Without a doubt, but it seemed a lot of money. It seemed back then, making nine, 10 million dollars a year. There came a price with that. And if you didn't perform, you were going to be headlines and overpaid. That was going to be the headline in your local newspaper. It seems to me as this goes on and the money gets huge in sports, it's really not that big of a deal anymore. And you don't hear the overpaid, you hear overrated, but you don't hear the overpaid sentiments coming out like we used to hear it. I remember I signed a four year deal in 2001, and I was the highest paid second baseman. And in 2002, I hit 280 with 109 RBI, I said 25 homers. Really good year for a second baseman. I won the Gold Glove. But it wasn't the year I had in 2001. I remember a lot that year saying, oh, they gave him too much money. He's overpaid. And I'm looking at my numbers going, well, it was down from a year ago. But if you take second basements across the board, what I just did is pretty damn good year. And I remember hearing that quite a bit today. I don't hear that because the money is so plentiful and so big. People don't even talk about. We've become numb to this, right. Okay. But I think depending on the individual, I'll be honest with you. I played with some teammates that could really care less what you or anybody else thinks about how much money they make, they're just happy to be making the money. And then I have teammates that really feel like, hey, I've earned this contract. I signed this contract, but I really want to live up to this contract. So I think you're right. We have become because it seems like monopoly money. Right. It seems like everybody's making 20. Everybody's everybody. Everybody makes millions. I mean, look at what's the minimum. What's the minimum now in the big leagues? Like 725. Yeah. Yeah. When I came up, it was 109. Two years before I came to the big leagues, it was 60, 69 or 67. Right. So the money that's been blown into sports is just ridiculous. So I get all the off the field deals they have. I remember this. I remember talking to Jeff Bagwell and saying, "Baggy, what do you get from Nike?" And he told me and I was blown away because I was getting like, I was getting like 5,000 a year cash and like 15,000 in merchandise. And you were the happiest guy in the face of the family. That's what we got back there. I was winning gold gloves with my, I was a Mizuno guy. Right. And my contract was like 4,500 in cash. And if I win the gold glove, a $3,000 bonus, middle of the road players, they're getting their own shoe deals, bad deals. And I'm all for it though, you know? It's like, that's where we've never been positioned. Obviously there's money out there for guys to be getting paid that. But it was different back in my day. You didn't get paid. You didn't have side deals. There were, there were Ken Griffey Jr. He would do a Nike commercial and he was getting paid. But if you weren't him, if you weren't Michael Jordan in the NBA, it's like you took your shoe contract. You know, there were different levels. It was like just a normal player, an all-star player, a superstar. And there were kind of you fit in that slot of what Nike gave you. And then there were the handful of guys that did the commercials. They got the big money. But everybody else, we just got wherever we were slotted. Did you imagine if I came to somebody today in college and said, hey listen, I want to offer you an NIL deal. Here's the deal. You win the highest betrophy. I'll give you, I'll give you a $3,000 or $3,500. If you mentioned, if you mentioned our product during your postseason. 30, I'll give you a 35, I would get laughed. Right. Well, let's see the room. Okay, all right. So let's go in the 90s, so 3500 in the 90s. Let's say that's worth six grand now. So offer them current, current 3500 on a scale. So you're going to offer them six grand. They're still going to laugh. You laugh on my face. They're going to laugh you off the planet for 50 grand for 100 grand. It's just a difference. You were grateful for your five grand, weren't you? Five grand. And then I had 15,000 in merchandise. And I'll tell you what, a lot of people had a really fun Nike Christmas. But that's the way it was in my life. Why wasn't it around the boom? It's just different nowadays. These guys, you know, now I got to call my son in law. Yeah, you can get a couple pair of sneakers, you know. Yeah, where was I during this whole boom gravy train when you had Nike stuff? We had Nike stuff. But now everybody gets 15,000 in merchandise. You can be a triple A. Triple A, get that. We should get merch money for doing this podcast. Rich, I got my first shoe in 2001, where it was my shoe, where I had my name on it. And I'm telling you. But now when you say it was your shoe, was it a retail shoe or is just one? No, just customized for you. Just customized for me. It wasn't retail. Once again, back then it was jitter had a shoe, griffy had a shoe. Yeah, yeah, swing men in the jump man. But other than that, there weren't too many people that had their own shoe retail. But a lot of us, well, not even a lot of us, right? 20 guys in the big leagues had their own Nike shoe that Nike would make for you with maybe a different type of outer surface with your name on it or your number. And it wasn't like today where you could just call and order it. And I could get my own Nike custom. Correct. You can't. Right. But back in my day, if you got your shoe, I remember when they told me, we're going to make you your own shoe this year. It was like, I was 10 years in the big leagues and I was like, oh my gosh, this is the greatest day of my life. I finally earned it. That was 10 years. I see guys in double A now with their number, their neck, their nickname on their shoe. And I just think, where do you go from there? Yeah. You get a poor school kids. You get a Porsche for your 16th birthday. Where are you going? That isn't real life. Anyway, I don't want to be the old guy that says you should. But you are, but you shouldn't have your own shoe until you deserve it. You're, you're the guy who's telling me, I can't wear my cap backwards. Yeah, that's well, you're, you're, you've, you've expired. There you go. That's going to do it for the podcast for today. Man, we were all over the place. Well, you were. I just, I, I railed it in and I kept this stream liner, streamlining. All right. By the way, if you're watching on YouTube again, if you'd like to get a Boone podcast sticker, or a Boone autograph. You know how goofy that sounds sticker. Decal? I got it. I got it. Yeah, it's got to be something cooler. It's not a sticker. Well, I mean, I've got decals all over. I would ask Mike, Mike's younger than us, our producer. Maybe I'll ask him what I should call it. It's not a sticker. It's a decal. Yeah. It's almost like Pac-Man. It's no, it's a sticker. It's outdated. It's a, it's a sticker. All right. You want a sticker? Brent Boone Teneyahoo.com. If you would like a Brent Boone sticker, let us know. Stickers when you get it. Stickers when you get an A plus in your seven grade. No, it's a sticker. I buy seven grade French class. I buy stickers. Give me a sticker. No, I buy stickers all the time for my water bottle. I got, I got in and out. I got state of Arizona. I got, I like logo. I got a hoda. I got a hoda-heads logo on my water bottle. There you go. Logo. All right. All right. Here you go. That's it for the pot. Yeah, that's it. We're done. Thanks everybody for joining us. Mike, Brett, Rich. Hey, good luck tonight to the 49ers and the Boone podcast going. (upbeat music)
