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On today's program, we flip the script on Boney. With our 10141, his second home run in his many nights and his 37th of the year. Today, we stick him under the lights and shove a mic in his face. And I mean, we're flying through these treeline trails going a thousand miles an hour. He is CBS sports radio host and the executive producer of the Boon Podcast, Rich Herrera. I want to know about you guys. What was light like growing up around your dad while he was playing with you guys? Now in its fourth year, this is the one and only Red Boon Podcast. Hello again, everybody and welcome to the Red Boon Podcast. It's turning two with Boney. I'm Rich Herrera, the executive producer of the Boon Podcast. Join us always by Brett Boon. Brett College football seasons here. The NFL is almost here. Major League Baseball is warming up and we're going to have a special guest talking about a movie that comes out soon as well. So we got a lot to get to in a very short amount of time. So let's get to it. Big Herrera, let's go. Now the big fajita. I see big fajita for all the fajita running wild for all of you guys listening to the Brett Boon Podcast, my executive producer here, Rich Herrera, one Rich Herrera, is now that I am instructed to call him the big fajita, which is, I don't know if it's a mid-life, what it is. I know he's been referred to that in the past, but I find it funny and by the way, guys, I am calling him the big fajita. All right. Take it from there. You're the Boon. Who gave you the Boon? Well I am the Boon. I know, but somebody gave you the nickname "The Boon." No. That was Mark Macklemore. It's well documented now. The reason Mark and I think he's the best guy to give it to me is because he actually did play with my dad and he said, "I'm not calling you Boonie. Your father is Boonie." And I said, "Well, call me Brett then." He goes, "No, you're the Boon, just the Boon." So yes, that's how that nickname came to be. See, I picked up real quick the big fajita is I was doing college football and Gary Barnett was my color analyst, the former coach at Northwestern. Who we need to get on the program, he's a great guy, big influence in my life. But I would tell him, I would complain after games, "Oh, so what a shape, I'm fat, I'm going to work out this summer, I'm going to be in great shape, so I'm not going to be hurting standing on the turf during the entire game." And I worked out and worked out and then I stopped working out right before the season started. And our first game of the season, I was ready to see him, and I walked up coach and he looked at me and he goes, "Look at you, you look like a big fajita, you haven't lost any weight this offseason, you big fajita lookin' and then it's time." I'll tell you this, Rich, I'm looking via satellite here. Rich, I always refer to him as my fat ass buddy. I'd have to say, you're looking trim right now, you're almost ready for an XL. Yes. And by the way, Rich is well documented, he's been a 3X. He's been a 3X. No, this is a weird way of complimenting you, and I know it sounds demeaning to the fans out there. But Rich, actually, he's been working on it, he looks pretty good, check him out, check him out on the YouTube channel, he's looking pretty, you're slivin' down, son, you're slivin' down. Let's make a cut of that, put that out on X as well. All right, let's get to it. Brett Boone was in Atlanta for the World Series Reunion, did you steal the jersey? And I got to find out how you did in the Home Run Derby. Absolutely, I stole it, no, it was given to me, but yes, I would have taken it anyway. I always collect jerseys when I go do events. Once again, it was one of those events where what did I sign up for, it was the Home Run Derby softball edition, it was Ryan Klesko and myself, it was Team Klesko against Team Dan Ugla. Okay. Team Dan Ugla had two former big leggers, about a year and two years removed. So recently retired big leggers. Recently, Simmons, the shortstop, resurgence, retired pitcher, and you think, "Oh, it's a pitcher." Well, I'm 55, Klesko's 53. I knew before we went out there, we had no chance, Klesko was horrible, I was okay. Now it's softball, so it's not like hitting baseballs out of the park. That guy could have been uglier. But yeah, we were the youth, I found them more and more, I do these little events, these little activities that youth always, and I say always, prevails. Okay, but I asked folks, I'll tell you, I asked Brett, did you embarrass us? Did you embarrass us? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. I hit six homers. Yeah. No, no, you did well. You did better than Klesko, and Ugla's got guys that probably still could get signed by a team going down the stretch. But one thing I will tell you is, I'm not embarrassed to be seen with you at these events. If I were there or just hanging out with you, because you look like you could still play. You show up at some of these things, and guys are pushing maximum time. Well, let's, okay, I was complimenting you earlier now. And now you're going to say you would be okay being seen with me? No, no, no, not you, but you see some of your former teammates and like, what happened? Did you, did somebody, did you eat a little kid? No, I mean, some guys keep it up. I mean, I've seen guys that they're going strong years and years later into their 60s. They're just beasts. And then you see some guys that just, when they were done, they trained as hard as they could, but when it was over, they just said, enough's enough. I'm not trained anymore. I'm done. So I've got buddies on both sides of the aisle. Right. I think it's interesting, because you see some guys that actually lose weight as professional athletes, because they're not in taking calories, they're not working out as much. You see them. They actually get smaller. I'll tell you what, more time is not. More times than not, the guys I play with, they just turn into fat asses. That's what they do. You know, I remember my dad, Rick. Am I lying? My dad was a workout freak. He after the game at 42 years old, he's still catching, he's doing these plyometrics. About 10 years later, I looked at him, you know, he said he had to lose a few pounds. I said, dad, how do you go from that passionate about workouts to a fat ass? And he said, bro, you'll see one day. I said, I will never be a fat ass like you. And I'm holding true. I'm 55. I'm not in my greatest shape of all time, but I hold my own and it's, it's very simple. But when people ask me about being, you know, the typical, oh, you look like you can still play at it. You know, I do the funny, oh, yeah, looks are deceiving, ha, ha, ha, you know, I have my same one line answers. And then I go with another one, the one liner. There's nothing worse than being short and fat. And I'm already short, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Those are funny. The first time I said it, but now, like on the hundredth time, it still might be funny to people in the room, but do you ever hear yourself going, that's so old. I've said it so many times. It's a new audience, but you get it. Put your act as my go to. There's my go to. All right. Well, okay. So Aaron's thin. What about Matt? Your brother. It's not thin. He's never been thin. He was thin as a kid. Aaron is. No, I mean, Aaron, Aaron, Aaron works out. Yeah. He's not a big weight trainer, but Aaron stays good. He looks good. Yeah. Not that manager with a gut, hang it on. No, no. Aaron puts it. Yeah. Aaron puts in a little work. Matthew, my, my youngest brother is thin. Matt, he was probably six, two in his prime six, two going about two, 15. Right. Matt. He is now, he goes about 180. Wow. He's like at one of those runners. He's big into spin on the bike. My wife does that bike. That bike is hard. Can you do it? I can do anything rich. I know. Yes. I've done a few classes with her. The thing about it is you're in the class and you can't, you don't want to embarrass yourself. So I don't mail it in. If I go there, I'm going, but it hurts, it hurts. I try to sit in the back and then it depends on the spin instructor. If they're going to call you out, some spinning structures will call you out. I mean, I was in the room and I left, I tried to leave like at the 40 minute mark. All right. Bones leave it. What? So now you got to get back on your bike. So it's not humiliating. It's, you, you would be, it's unbelievable cardio. It really is, but I'm from the, I'm from the, the belief that stay active. Do something, whether your thing is weights, Pilates, yoga, spin, whatever it is, I don't really care. It's whatever you get up in the morning and you have the ability to get to your function and get it done. So I'm not one of those guys. Oh, you got to lift weights. You got to do this. There's a lot of people that, oh, you need to do what I do. No, you do what works for you. And the bottom line is getting something done. So a lot of these need go get them cross train and go get them. Would you be a great spin instructor? Not probably not. I'm not passionate about it. It would be fun. No, but you'll call people out. You talk. Yeah. I'd call people out. I would get old after a while. Like what am I doing going to spend to call people out? I'm not passionate enough about a rich. You got to be passionate about what you do that. Look everybody. Care for Escondino's leaving early. Right. That would be. But that's, you know, when the spin instructor that really cares and is passionate and loves what she does says it, then it means something. For me, it would, early, it would be funny. After a while, you would, you would understand that Brett doesn't really give a crap because I don't. So no, I'd be a phony instructor. I'd be good short term, long term. I'd be no good. All right. Let's talk about something I want to talk about and catch up with was you saw a lot of your teammates in Atlanta. You saw what you said. Chipper was there. Who else did you hang out with? There were a lot of guys there, you know, from Dale Murphy. I got to spend time with Gerald Perry, who is my hit in coach in Seattle, caught up with Julio Franco, who will be having coming on the podcast, Timmy Hudson, part of the show. I want Hudson on the show. Yeah. We're going to have Timmy on. There's a lot of guys that I haven't seen in a long time, you know, and I saw the list in Atlanta. It was a little weird for me going to alumni because I only did play there one year, but I saw Smoltey showed up and it was a good group and it was fun and I had a good time. By the end of the third night, I was ready to go home, but it was, I got to say, they did a first-class job, got to hang out with Clesco for a long time. So, Rhino was a teammate of mine for two years, one in Atlanta, one in San Diego. I always like hanging out with Rhino. He's always got great stories for me. But no, all in all, it was a fun trip. Atlanta did a really good job, first-class job. You got a chance to spend time with Leo Mizoni, who we are on the podcast. Leo, yeah. I think it could have been one of the best baseball discussions I think we've ever had on the show. Leo's it, man. He's a stute and being a part of that Braves 90s run, you know, Leo's going to be real humble. And a lot of the time it is. And he says all the time, you know, what makes a great pitching coach? What does? Great talent. Right. And he's always been from that humble, yeah, he's always been like that, but there's got to be something to Leo, you know, the reason. And when you hear him talk on the podcast and you hear the depth he goes to on their philosophy in Atlanta, yeah, you have to have the horses that can absolutely be able to go out and whatever your philosophy is, execute it. So you got to have the talent, but they were, man, they were special, that 90s Braves run. And I always, not to disrespect a Merker or a Nagel or a Steve Avery, Kevin Millwood, they were all great pitchers. But man, that Smoltz Maddox Glavin threesome, that kind of was, was, you know, the backbone of those 90s teams. Man, they were good. And Leo was right there. And he said, Brett, sometimes the best thing you can do as a pitching coach is not screw it up. Right. He said, you don't have to necessarily teach. Don't screw it up. And he's got some really cool insight. So I think everybody needs to check it out because yeah, absolutely. Glavin Smoltz Maddox, the same way you talked about Hudson, Mulder Zino, and I'd like to have those guys on the program as well. But you still had a bullpen that would finish off games and then you'd have the four and five that would, that would rotate and sometimes it was Millwood. You had somebody. And they were great. They were great. All those guys. So there was something to what, what Leo said, absolutely, Hey, listen, I'd love to have those three, but then I'm going to maximize everybody else. The fours, the fives, the bullpen guys. And I thought it was interesting when he was talking about working with Steve Bedrosian. So bedrock was with the Phillies before one of the best closers of all time and was at the Giants. But he said, Hey, I'd go get bedrock, go put it down to the bullpen, let him throw. And I thought it was interesting. He wasn't just doing bullpen sessions, throwing him between starts or appearances. He was getting ready for that game. And I think that's one of the things is they had a sense of urgency and sharpness they pitched with every day. Yeah. And he talks about it. Well, I mean, you got a listener. I don't want to give away all the little goodies, but you listen to his philosophy on today and why the injuries that are all time high. How how how pitchers today prepare in between starts and pitch counts and all that's really a lot of interest. If you have a kid, you have to listen to this he, he talked a lot about this and you saw, you've seen this with your boys, you've seen this coaching, youth baseball, I've seen it coaching youth baseball, everybody's worried about velocity and spin rate. And they're throwing maximum effort, he goes, I'd rather have a guy, I'll, I'll give this part out. I'd rather have a guy that might reach 95, but he can control 91 instead of maxing out every pitch. I'd rather have him have control over the monster velocity that he doesn't know where it's going. And it's also going to save the wear and tear and his arm. 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Reaction, you were on a Chicago where the White Sox changed managers. The Mariners, your Seattle Mariners have just had a disappointment. Let's just call it the way it is, a disappointing second half. The offense is anemic and the management and ownership said we need another voice. Scott, service, thank you very much, but we need another voice. They bring in one of your former teammates, Dan Wilson to take over so far above 500 but not getting back to that pace they had in the beginning of the season, what's your take on all of this? Well, ever since Dan took over, they're four and two and really this is a no-lose situation for Dan Wilson. He inherited the team. There were five out now. They're three out. Houston's lost a few games recently. I just think the voices were getting loud in Seattle. They're tired of not going to the postseason on a consistent basis. And I think this year, I think they made good moves at the trading deadline with the Rose Arena, with the Justin Turner and with Garcia, came over from Toronto to help that bullpen. All three really haven't played that great, but I think the moves were right considering what was available. And I think that the voices were growing louder in Seattle and I think management heard it and there's not much you can do player personnel-wise, but he just thought, "I've got to shake this up. I can't just mail this in and be another mariners not make the postseason season." So what he did is something drastic, fired a manager with five weeks to go. I don't think Scott's service deserves the blame for the way the offense has played, but sometimes a shake-up like this, you know, breathes some adrenaline into that clubhouse. I think Dan Wilson is as capable as anybody right now under these circumstances to take over. He knows that organization. He knows it well. He's been in, he wears several different hats in the Seattle organization. He does on radio and TV broadcasts. He's also an instructional ball and he's also on the field with the big league team. So he knows that personnel. He knows the guys on that 26-man roster and I think Dan's a good man for that position right now. Also Edgar Martinez going in. Oh, just going to ask that. Edgar Martinez comes in as a hitting instructor. And I think Danny, that was one of his prerequisites. I got to have Edgar with me and I think he's a guy that's been there with Danny a long time in that organization. He's obviously Edgar, the iconic Edgar Martinez Seattle legend. And they're going to go out at the next five weeks. We'll see how it pans out. I don't think there's a wild card coming out of that division. So you either win the division in the American League West or you're going to go home this year. It's between them and Houston. Three games separate them. We'll see how it shakes out. I'm still going to put you on the spot. I still would like to see if Brett Boone can manage in the big leagues. I'd like to see Brett Boone get an opportunity to manage in the big leagues. Well, and we'll see, Rich. A couple of years ago, I wouldn't even think that was in my scope. But the more I watch, this game has still been my whole life. I got a lot to give to this game and one day if that presents itself, I'd have to consider I'd have to listen. So it's intriguing to be a challenge. I think I'd be really good at it to be honest. I just want to see. I see. No, I think it'd be great. I just want to see the Boone brothers manage against each other. Wow. Aaron have no chance. Now you know, you know, I'm mark. Wait a minute. Mark the tape, folks, Brett versus Aaron Boone, who would run a better game? And you know, my mantra, there's only so much you can do as a manager. Once that, once the game starts, it's, it's all players. So who would win? Well, whoever is the better players, whoever is the better players. Let's say the, the players are chock. Everybody's the same. Now it's going to be up to motivation, but in that sense of urgency, tactician in the bullpen and your lineup card, who's going to win Brett versus Aaron? Aaron's got the experience over me right now would take me about a day, day and a half to catch up to him. And who has the better people in the clubhouse with him? Who has the better coaches, the guys that lean on the, that insight, I'll, I'll call it a draw right now. Every time we'll tell, maybe one day we'll see. All right. If you could pick two people to be on your staff, I don't care what their jobs are. I don't know. That's too much right now. Oh, come on. Give me a cup. I'm going to go. No, I'm not going to, I'm not going to, because some guys would probably are at an age where they wouldn't, couldn't do it. This is what I have. I have. Here's what I would do. I would get somebody that I'm compatible with in a bench code situation, somebody to be like a John McLaren, who was the bench coach for Lou for years and years. Rob Mack, a Buck show Walter type, the epitome of experience and would really be someone to lean on, not from a baseball perspective, but from a managerial perspective, a guy that's been there, done that. What did you do? What, what did you do in these situations? What failed? What succeeded? I think, I think the more experience in positions is the best way to go. All right. Now, you know the question, which you know the question that's coming, don't you? What? Would you have Bob as your bench coach? Dad wouldn't be interested at this point, Bob, dad, five years, five years ago, Bob in this prime. Would you want Bob as your bench coach? Yes, he'd be great because I've worked with Bob. That's weird me calling my dad, Bob. When I was a player, he was the bench coach and I think we've gone into this, how much I didn't look forward to that season and then fast forward a year when that season was over as one of my most enjoyable seasons ever, having my dad there, the level of professionalism that he showed. I didn't think he added in him, but once that bell rang and once we went to the, to the ballpark, got into that clubhouse, it was what did you call professionals could be? Oh, I still call them dad. In the clubhouse. Yeah, but it's a working relationship and it was a professional. He was coach. I was player. Did you see what am I going to say? Oh, Bob. No, no. Before he LeBron James said that when I saw it, Ronnie, around the way to the game, you told me that once we get in there, you call me coat. You call me. You call me cake. You are not allowed to call me dad when we get in the facility or on the court, stupid. The whole thing is ridiculous. The fact that LeBron put Ronnie in that situation, the biggest disservice he could possibly do to a kid. Obviously I'm no basketball expert, but I've talked to a lot of people in the basketball world, and they said it's ridiculous that, that Bronnie's, he's not ready for this stage. And the fact that it was kind of force fed. It's the biggest disservice I could possibly see as a father encouraging this. And that's what LeBron did. Now he's going to have rules about what you can call me. I will always call my dad dad. And it does it in a professional context. I can work around it, maybe Mr. Boone, but dad is dad and he'll always be a dad. Did anybody ever say anything to you like, "Oh, Brett, what are you going to call your daddy?" No, no, because it was, like I said, it was, I was already an, I was an established player. He obviously was getting into his first year at the big league level being a bench coach. So there was just a mutual respect. There was no, this wasn't daddy ball. This was, you know, your, your little league team. So now it's just very professional. Okay. Quick reminder for some folks, we're going to do something different right now here on the podcast. So we're going to expand. I want to start doing the podcast live a couple times a month on YouTube if we can. We keep encouraging people to email us. Email is Brett Boone 10 at dot com, Brett Boone 10, Yahoo dot com. We use your question on the air. We're going to send you an autographed Brett Boone baseball card. So we want to do more when the Mariners made their moves, Brett jumped on, did a little video with reaction to it, which was well received. So we're going to keep expanding, doing new things in the podcast. We're also going to try to bring in some different guests onto the podcast, especially on turning two. So that's what we're going to do right now. Now we have a mutual friend who introduced us to this actor who's in this movie that's opening up a Labor Day weekend called you got to believe in automatically you think of the Boone family because that was tugging McGraw's long time mantra, you got to believe in those Philadelphia Phillies teams though, on the World Series with Brett's dad. This is a movie about a little team from Texas that really had to believe in themselves to get to the Little League World Series and one of the, one of the stars of the movie, it stars Greg Keneer and Luke Wilson and also has Patrick Renah in it who played Hamilton Porter in the Sandlot, but the gentleman that I've got a chance to meet and Brett's got a chance to meet as well. We're going to welcome Lou Temple onto the podcast. He's one of the principal actors, has a big role in the movie and he's our special guest here on the Boone podcast and those of you on YouTube. Now we have three people. First time we ever did it, Lou, you got to turn the camera a little bit more. I'm going to direct you here. There we go. There we go. Is your job on the Boone podcast. That's Axel from The Walking Dead. Lou Temple. Hey, thanks so much for having me guys. It's really good to see you Brett, very nice to see you Rich. Here we are from Fort Worth, Texas. You got a big night tonight, huh? Yeah, we're premiering tonight, so they're shutting down the stockyards and rolling out the red carpet and the stars shining bright deep in the heart of Texas for You Got to Believe, which is where this all took place. At least it started and ended up out in Williamsport. Brett, did you make it to Williamsport? I can't remember. I did not, you know, we got to the championship game. I think I was 12 years old. My last year in Little League, I grew up in New Jersey, Lou, and we got to the championship game and we petered out. But no, that Little League, Matt, you think it's tough to win a World Series? Try getting to Williamsport. I think that might be tougher. It seems like you got to win 100 games again. Yeah, it's a whole other season. It's tournament season and it really is who gets on a run and this particular team that featured in our movie, the 2002 West Side team out of Fort Worth, they got on a run. And it's such a great story because typically, as we all know, these teams are built of all stars from their region and they are hand-picked and this particular group of kids was not. This was just a team that was taking a place holder in the tournament as a consolation prize for a poor season and so they got on a run and then, of course, there's an inspiring story through their coach who was terminally ill and they were playing for him, win one for the gipper and it's a feel good story. It's a family film and it's, you're rooting for these kids so we're excited about it. The movie is called, you got to believe, opens up Labor Day weekend starring Luke Wilson, Greg Keneers in it, Porter, I'm just going to call Porter from the Sandlot, Patrick Renna and our friend, Lou Temple, who Brett alluded to. Brett, are you a big walking dead guy? Did you recognize Lou when you saw him? I know Lou from the Walking Dead, then I talked to him and he talked about his, well, he might have looked at it a little bit, before this acting bug hit you, Lewis and the Meyer Leggs, it's Seattle Mariners, Houston Astros and we have mutual friends. A lot of mutual friends and we were, you know, also bit by the baseball bug, which is, you know, always has a hold of us, it's still my first passion. I think that we talked about what the similarities are in baseball, you know, there's a certain confidence that arrives with you when you get to the big leagues and you have to have it swag, I think is what we're calling it these days. I find it is probably more authentic in baseball than necessarily acting. We act a lot like we've got it fake it till you make it, but, you know, it's more mono and mono in your world, Brett, in the baseball world. But there's similarities, it's still a performance, you've got to tee it up and perform well. Okay, we're talking with actor Lou Temple's in a movie called You Got to Believe Opes Up Labor Day Weekend. All right, Brett, let's just talk about this and get it out in the open. Lou, I'm going to tell you this, Brett's got a problem with Hollywood. Oh, good. In baseball movies in general, because he complains they're just not authentic, Brett, give us the one time you were on the movie set and you were asked to be an actor and play a baseball player and what happened. Lou, and Lou will be able to relate to this because I'm sure being a baseball player, in a movie is made about baseball, you're hypercritical, just like everybody, whatever your profession is. If you're a lawyer and there's a movie with a lawyer, they're going to pick it apart. But that it's not real, that's not real. So I'm constantly doing that. It's a problem of mine, but I was in this movie loop back in the day. I think it was Mr. Baseball with Tom Selleck. Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah. So I went to, I went to the university. Which I was an excellent movie, but go ahead, Brett. I went to the university of Southern California. So I had just retired, just signed, just fresh out of the draft. Doug DeSencees, who was a teammate of my father's when he played with The Angels, was the talent coordinator for this movie. Now Frank Thomas was a rookie, just one rookie of the year. He was the other star in the movie. So he was a star. I was the minor league scrub extra that they wanted to make shortstop look, you know, you want to make it plays in the field look and feel like authentic in a professional's playing. So I get a call from Doug DeSencees says, "Boonie, would you like to come out and be in this movie?" And I said, "Not really." And he said, "Well, I'd really need you to come out." And it's about an hour drive for me. I'm in Orange County. I'm staying with mom and dad in the off season, just finished a ball. I said, "Yeah, I'll come out, you know, a hundred bucks or 200 bucks a day." Sure. I get there. And I'm shooting the scene. Frank Thomas and myself, we've never met. He doesn't know who I am, you know, at this point, I'm an a ball player. Frank's a big star already. Tom Sellick's obviously a big star. He's got his uni on. And I always thought, "Sellick actually thinks he's a baseball player." He really does. He thinks he's one. He's walking around with the spikes on the cleum, on the cement, clicking. And I'm kind of looking at this guy. Anyway, action, we're doing this scene where I'm getting, I'm getting the feet of short, I'm flipping a second double play ball. Frank thinks I'm throwing to him, but I'm not, I'm throwing a second. Oh, cut, cut, cut. This director starts yelling at me, telling me what to do, this and that. I'm, you know, I'm just a kid. I'm like, all right, all right, we got to get through this. Action. It goes about a half hour, Lou. This director's trying to tell me how to do it. Oh, yeah. And at this point, I'm going, I don't need that. I need this like I need a hole in the head. Long story short, at the end of the shooting that day, I gave to Sensei my uni. I said, "You know what? You could take this extra BS, shove it. I'm out of here." And I left. And that was my first time being in a movie, baseball movie. But my, what Rich is alluding to is I always think for a baseball movie, and I think there are some good ones. Give me wrong. I think Bull Durham's pretty darn accurate to the minor league life, except for when they pull in late one night, you never get to a city the night and stay in a hotel because the minor leagues, they won't pay for your hotel. I thought Bull Durham was pretty accurate, but I think for the most part, what they do with baseball movies is they put tobacco in everybody's mouth and tell them to spit. And that's what ball players do. And that's what gets me going. All right. That's my reaction. React, Lou. Well, first of all, I side with Brett on the authenticity like one of the main things that is a telltale sign for anybody, whether you're an actor or a civilian, is throwing you. I mean, Brett, you look at somebody when they pick up a baseball and throw. Just look at the first pitch and you're like, "That guy can't throw," or "She can't throw." We got to be careful when we say she throws like a girl because there's some girls that throw pretty good these days. But that's the very first thing. So all these actors show up and they tell on themselves, "They can't throw." And you can't hide that, right, Brett? You can't hide that someone can't throw. There were players that I played with that couldn't throw. Kenny Lofton never really threw very well. He never overcame his inability to throw, really, but he got by. So that's the first thing. You just look goofy doing baseball things if it's not in your muscle memory. And directors... You're not a real baseball player. Directors have no sense of that. So Lou, who did you use for your coordinator for the baseball players? Interesting. We used a guy named Ryan Reynolds, who was a... Oh yeah, I've seen him in Deadpool. Oh, different Ryan Reynolds, okay. That other Ryan Reynolds. He did a stint with the Diamondbacks a few years ago. I want to say 216, where I think he knocked like 15 bombs. He's the third baseman. Tattoo. Tattoo all, you know, post Malone style. Okay. Kind of a fish out of water in MLB. And he was okay. Look, we have really good actors. These are really good 14-year-old actors that have better acting careers than I do. Admittedly, they couldn't play baseball that was dropped, kicked up their bum-bums. So we... They're such a cheat. That being said, Brett, to your point, the director had no idea. Like, we spent a whole day explaining to him how you can't turn a triple play on a ground ball to left field. You know? Okay. Okay. And so... Well, Lou, even a little wing. The thing is, though, you know, I'm sitting here on my couch, pointing out discrepancies in movies. Yes. You're actually... You're in the movie. So it's driving you crazy. Like... It's awful. It's not how you move. That's not how you move. It's awful. It's awful. That's not a catchphrase that you say. Yeah. You don't... You got to know the lingo. And... Like, there's little things like our... Our man, Greg Keneer, like he's wearing, you know, he's a coach in Little League. And he's... He plays the nerdy dad that's not an athlete. He's got baseball spikes on. I'm like, "Look, with your chinos, you probably don't have to wear those. You're slacks." But, you know, the Connie Mack thing will be just fine. You can... Just out there. So... So it was... You know, some point, you got to just give in to the ridiculousness. But I actually don't think any baseball movies do well. Like Tim Robbins looked really poor, throwing. Let's be honest and bolder him. Okay. So, Lou, let me jump in here with you because we just got a couple minutes. Lou, I want you to give me and Brett, I'm going to ask you the same thing. Top two baseball movies that you thought were most realistic as former professional players and two that you just kind of roll your eyes at. All right. So, Brett, I'll give Lou a minute. Brett, give me two movies that you enjoy and from the baseball perspective, you're not getting upset and two that you just said, "What is this?" Okay. The two... I'm going to say, "Brett, I'm going to jump in." Is that okay, Rich? Because I've got to go ahead. Okay. I'm going to go eight men out and it's less about the authenticity of the baseball. Those guys couldn't play either, but the point where the players were kind of being held hostage by the ownership, I thought that story was kind of great. And then the major league had just enough guys dripped in it that could play a little bit that your dad played with, Brett, that I thought were okay. So I'd go with those two. Brett, who are your two movies that you don't roll your eyes at when you watch the baseball scene? I don't roll it at Bull Durham. I think Koster did an okay job as a hit. I thought he was fine. I thought he kind of had the mannerisms down. I'm with you on Tim Robbins. I think Robins threw so ridiculous that it was almost like, "Hey, we're not trying to fool you. We're going the other way." He was in Calvin Nucleus. She was a goofy guy. I got that. Yeah, but you're supposed to believe that he's a number one pick. All right. So that wasn't believable. I thought the premise was good. My favorite to this day is the bad news bears. Oh, that's great. Let them kids play. That was the Astridome. That was the Astridome. Enos Cabell in Art Howl led the cheers. Cesar Sedano. I thought Charlie on the mound was okay, and he worked out a little bit. Also Tom Selleck thought he was just the side of the major leagues. The worst is maybe one that I was in that was supposed to be silly. And I was there to tell you none of those guys could play. Matthew McConaughey is athletic-ish, but Angels in the outfield. Oh, okay. Adrian, Tony Danza, Adrian Brody, those guys might not have made the beer league softball team. One too, how about Little Big League? Good buddy of mine is John Ashton, who just came out and recently tagred. He was in Little Big League, and that's where I met him on the set in Minnesota. To this day, I'm like, Johnny, that's just not how we do it. He's whatever, Brett. That's another. I'm a character actor. I'm moving on. Was that Gary? Was that Gary Busey? Gary Busey. Gary Busey. Wow. And two guys. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no, no. Little Busey. No, Busey was in it. I thought Busey was in- Oh, no, maybe he stopped Busey. No, no, Busey. Busey was in it, he had red hair. That was our network show too. No, he was in- He played the brother-in-law in Bull Durham. Timothy Busfield. Oh, Tim Busfield. That's right. And you know Robert Woll's a big sports guy. You know, he is- Yeah, he's at a sports top show. He's been on the podcast. Yeah, he's been on the show before as well. The movie you're talking about was Rookie of the Year with Busfield and Daniel Stern was in it as well. Gary Busey and Daniel Stern, Rookie of the Year. Goofy, Goofy is all get out. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Busey. Well, it's good that Busey's not Goofy anymore. Yeah. Yeah. No, there you go. I'm friends with Jake, so I'm around him a little bit and I can tell you that he's as Goofy as it's getting. Yeah. I can't get it. Lou, we're excited to see the movie come out. It's called You Got to Believe. It's a story of the Fort Worth Little League team that made it to the Little League World Series, one out away from advancing in the finals, which is a feel-good movie as it is, but it's a family movie because it also chronicles a real-life story of one of the fathers who was dying of terminal cancer and now the team rallied around this father and son on the team and it's- I could tell you from the previews and Lou came on the network with me the other day that- bring a Kleenex, you're going to need it by the end of the movie. Yeah, it's- It's really a touching movie, so- It is a touching movie and Luke Wilson, I think, is fantastic in it and Greg's good as always. It's a different role for Luke and it's really great and- Yeah, by the way, we're putting it on the spot. We want both of them to come on the podcast as well. I'm going to tell them today and hell, Brett, I think you could come manage here. You know, Boach won the World Series last year, but it's not working this year, so you know, you see, people want the boom, the managed boom. We will say, hey, and I'll never say never. There you go. You're putting you on the spot, would you go take a job for Dan? Would you go take a- Oh, and Wilson? Yeah. It would depend on which capacity. I mean, a lot of my decisions right now are, so who's it for what capacity would it be, and where could I be a real positive, you know, to make a difference on the team? Yeah. You don't want to just go and pick up helmets. Yeah. That's not good. My, you know, I want to manage. I mean, I think I could be good at it, but for the right guy, for a Bruce Boachie type, who I played for Bruce, tremendous. Yeah. There are certain guys I would say. Yeah. I'll come do that for you. Luke, I'm putting- Luke, we only got about 30 seconds, Luke. I'm putting you on the spot. Yeah. Can you find a way to get Brett Boone, a cameo appearance and what are your next movies if they need a baseball player or if they need a big team and talk shows, I'll do it. I'm going to do it. And he, he's going to be brothers, not with his brother, but with a friend of ours, Casey Candel. If those two will come and be brothers. Oh, yeah. Casey Candel. Unbelievable. In a heist movie. I think I think it'd be good to be, you know, in a heist movie, you know, like an ocean's 11. Yeah. Yep. I would love it. Luke, you got my number. You got my number. That's a lot. And you're in this premiere. So that's easy. That's a lot. Best of luck. Best of luck in the premiere. It comes out the 30th, Rich. It comes out the 30th, which is the day this airs. You got to believe. You're here, you. Starring, Luke Wilson, Greg Kinnear and our very, very good friend, Luke Temple. Enjoy the premiere and we'll catch up with you, Luke. Thanks so much, guys. We really appreciate it in here. All right. Continue. Good luck with y'all. Thank you. All right. That's going to do it for the Boone podcast. See you, everybody. A message paid for by veterans for all voters. Listen to this message from Ted Delacath, former Army infantrymen and Ranger qualified platoon leader active in the Army Reserves. When I enlisted in the Army, I swore an oath to this country, not any political party. That's why I'm interested in citizens' ballot measures around the country to reduce the power of political parties. Colorado votes on one, too. Right now, election rules allow political insiders to hand-pick party nominees. It's the reason we're usually stuck voting for the lesser of two evils. 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