The Rithm (formerly The BlacLife Pod)
TR020 | School Shooting 218
All right, another school year, another school shooting. Four people are dead and nine people have been hospitalized. They're a 14-year-old child, open fire at Appalachia High School in Winder, Georgia. The 14-year-old child is in custody and has been charged with four counts of felony murder and is expected to be tried as an adult. Of the four people dead, two were teachers and two were students, both age 14. Of the nine people who sustained injuries, eight were children. Additionally, the suspect's father was arraigned on four counts of involuntary manslaughter, two counts of second-degree murder and eight counts of cruelty to children. An arrest warrant alleges he provided his son with a firearm, quote, "with knowledge he was a threat to himself and others." So where do we want to go? Do you want to say, "Oh, it's so sad, kids got shot at school. We can't believe this happened." Or are we like kind of past that at this point? I mean, I'm not past it and I'm, you know, but I feel like the rest of the world is. At least the rest of the U.S. is talking about how we feel about it. Let's take to the U.S. because the rest of the world doesn't have this problem. So go ahead. Right. Right. I was going to say the same thing. Brian said, like, if we could talk about how we feel about it, but it's the sentiment of the country. It feels like we're past the point, like, okay, it happened and now we just move forward, right? Like the impact because it's happened so many times, it's like we're numb to it. Right. This is the norm. This is the norm. This is the norm. It is. That particular shooting was the 208th school shooting in a K through 12 school in the year 2024. What? Wait, say that again? The 218th shooting in a K through 12 school in the year 2024. That is freaking wild. I was thinking that doesn't mean it's a statistic for at least a couple years, right? But one, we haven't made it through one school year yet. What? That means this year just started. And I'm not this school year. This year. Yeah, this year. I don't know what to say. From January to June and then in the past, let's go, let's say a month to be generous. Yeah. We're, we're not even at this three, just 365 days in a year, right? And we got about 90 days left until the end of the year. So you're telling me, we're almost at one, one school shooting per day almost is the, is the math I'm doing in my head a little less than one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just about the math is math and dark. Yeah. That's fucking wild. Yeah. Yep. That's where we're at. We want to go. Do we have any specific talking points? Does anyone find any of this weird? I mean, let's, all right, let's, let's, let's start with then the, the, like who, who you guys think obviously, like who do you guys think should be held, held responsible in this? In this specific shooting or the, the epidemic of school shootings in general, I guess we could say the epidemic, cause this will falls under that. So let's just say the epidemic of shooting who, who follows responsible, the voters and the people we elect. All right. Okay. What about you, Mark? I was going to say the parents, but he obviously has a deeper, darker criminal link here. No. I think it's everybody. I think it's everyone except the kids. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's because the, for the majority, not the majority, this one is a little different. I think the dad came right out and said that he, you know, gave him the gun or whatever. But I think that if I'm sorry, I don't have the booth, but if you're dumb, if you're a dumb parent and you have a gun in your house and you think that your kid, you just tell you verbally tell your kid, Hey, don't do this or don't take this to school. You don't take the necessary precautions within your household. Have the necessary conversations. Take the time to make sure that your kid is in, I don't know, I don't know, I feel like the parent is the number one line of defense for making sure your kid is in a, a suitable mental state to be able to handle an activity or, you know, something like shooting a gun, like, you know, whether you take your kid to a gun range or you live out in a country and you, you go hunting with your kid in your backyard, I don't give a shit. I don't give a fuck like, like having the, the where at all to know and to take the necessary precautions to make sure something like this doesn't happen. To me, the parents are the, the first line of defense, man. Well, this particular parent has a video after his son killed the deer and the son has blood on his face and they say something along the lines of this is the greatest day ever because the son just killed the deer. Look, I know people that take a lot of pride in the land that they own, you know, of North, you know what I mean? Like, and they, they take pride in having their own property to be able to hunt on and they take their kid, their sons and it's like a rite of passage thing, you know, whatever you take pride in, sure, but you can't be that absent, I'm in a phase right now where I'm teaching my kids like awareness and like, so like every second I'm spending with them. I'm like teaching them these small, they might be minuscule now, but like these small lessons that can grow into like stepping stones for critical thinking, you know what I mean? Right, but I think, yeah, I think Mark, one, one aspect that you're missing though, when it comes to parenting, I agree though, I agree that parents should be held accountable. Like they, they definitely should be, but there's also a lot of parents that don't necessarily know how to parent. And I think, you know, in those types of scenarios and again, I don't know the dynamics between this father and the son. He gave him a gun as a president. What more do you need to know? Well, I know, but I guess what I'm, what I'm trying to get at is though, like I know that it's still like in all cases, it can be, you know, things can be, there's layers to it. But you know, yes, in this instance, like what the fuck was he doing buying his son and they are like, that makes no sense, especially with, you know, other facts that have been shown. But I guess what I'm trying to get at is those that sometimes I get though that parents don't know how to parent. Like they don't know what to do, they don't have the capacity to be a healthy parent. So, you know, yes, parents, good, I know, right, how about that? Yeah. Yeah. It takes some classes or something. But with that, you know, it's, I believe that yes, parents should be held accountable. I also believe that the community or necessarily community, meaning, you know, there's resources that are out there or in this particular story, parts of the community, whether it was police, whether it was FBI, whoever they did, they were involved in certain aspects. But prior to this instance, and you know, what all they had to say was more or less, you know, monitor the child. Yeah. But there's only so much that they can do so. Yeah. Right. Right. The teen, the kid was interviewed by the FBI last year because they received anonymous tips about online threats to commit a unspecified school shooting, right, but they didn't have enough information to do anything about it. They couldn't arrest him because the kid was like, nah, that wasn't me. Right. And they also saw that when they looked at the IP addresses, the IP addresses didn't match the kid, although the account matched the kids. I mean, because it's probably using a VPN, but nobody thought that far 74% of firearms used in school shooting incidents are obtained from a student's home or from the home of a relative or family friend. What was the percentage 74 or that is an insane amount of guns are the leading cause of death for children and teens suicides account for six in 10 deaths. Homicides are linked to four in 10 guns are the leading cause of death for children and teens. Guns are what was Alex guns. So I don't even know what to say. I. They're my God. No. I mean, you know, in this instance, because I mean granted, I think because I've been spending more time with my nieces and nephew, since I've been living in Houston and, you know, prior to that, and have a lot of like loved ones in my life, especially that were kiddos. And you know, with that, it's hitting a little bit more because now I'm in a state that has like in terms of their gun laws, they are super relaxed here. And then I say super relaxed, meaning as soon as you turn 18 years old, you can walk in and get a gun and boom, there you go. Gun violence and states with the most permissive gun laws rose 46% from 2012 to 2020 carry on, Brian. So clearly there is a correlation between gun laws and homicides or suicides when it comes to gun violence. And so with that, it's, you know, I don't understand how like the math to me, the math mass in that aspect, right? In this instance, one plus one equals two. So, you know, I'm not saying to obviously take guns away or this there or the other, but you know, it obviously laws need to be looked at more and to make it harder for people to acquire permits and background checks are not required in order to purchase firearms in Georgia, including assault weapons. Gun owners in Georgia are also not legally required to lock up or otherwise securely store firearms away from children. So it's the law that allows the parents to be idiots or lack of lack of a law. And then, you know, their solution is to what they want to put guns in schools. And in this instance, though, Alex, they had, wait, wait, wait, wait, the solution is more guns. Yeah. In a lot of states, I feel as if the answer is, or the debate is, well, putting guns in school will help protect our students. Nine times as many people report being victimized by a person with a gun than being protected by a gun. Well, that kind of that kind of debunks the commercial I saw on my YouTubes this morning that said, which was what they said. Most people use this as a shield or no, most people think of to use this as a weapon, but not realizing that it can also be a shield. And as the as they say, the shield, the person's pulling it out of this brand new holster and like holding the gun up, like, and then Alex read that and I was like, I'm like, all right, well, they're probably not having, they're not making a lot of sales because I don't think anybody thinks of this thing as like, I'm pretty sure a lot of people think, like Brian, when we talk about guns, you think of like a gun like you think of protecting your household, right? Yes. But I always wondered like if the majority of like gun owners felt that way, you know what I mean, like protecting themselves or is it a tool to hunt or a tool to, you know, I mean, from from from being a gun owner, I'll say this, I can't obviously speak for everybody, but just like the analogy I kind of use, this might be it sound like a horrible one, but like there's different guns, obviously, that have different functions, right? You have when you come to when it comes to your home, you have self-defense weapons, right? Which is usually a handgun or a shotgun, right? Those, those are typically the more common home defense self, you know, self-defense type of fire. But if I was going out hunting a big ass buck or a moose or a large animal, I need this high powered rifle, right? Well, that's not that you need a high powered rifle, but I will say though, you know, you have your hunting rifles, right? Do you also need a AR-15? No, you don't need an AR-15 to go hunting, no. Oh, hunting people, yo. I, I, I, I think, right, with in terms of what I, you know, and this sounds terrible when I say this, but if I were to use an AR, right, and from just training that I've had this area, the other, where'd you get trained in the military? Oh, okay. Keep going. The AR can be good for like suppressing fire, right? When I say that, meaning, you know, with an automatic style type of rifle, all you got to do is squeeze the trigger and it just sprays bullets. So when I say suppressing fire, I mean, you may not necessarily be shooting at a specific target, just more or less firing bullets in that direction, right? Like, like towards a press. Well, not firing a lot, but I think he fired a couple at him, yeah. Yeah. So with AR, I mean, with an AR, right, you have, you can have a single fire, burst fire. And generally though, with an AR, most people use that because as a burst fire function, where it may shoot a couple bullets or a lot of bullets at one, you know, in terms of one, one trigger. And what might one need that for? Yeah. And that's the thing, right? Majority of that, I, I would think that you would be using that to, again, to fight against fire you're receiving from, from an enemy, right? You wouldn't normally use that in any other situation. So like if somebody else has an AR 15, it makes sense for you to have an AR 15. Yes. So like that's cool. Yes. Like, like I, like at school, right? Okay. I don't think so. I'm gonna just go ahead and say, I don't think so, but I mean, tell me, do we need some more guns? Yeah. You give a little AR, a little AR relax about that. How about that? How about that? How would y'all feel if a little black kid came up to the school with a AR talking about she trying to protect herself? How's that sound to you? Are you, are you with that? Are we fine? Rather than looking at guns as the issue, they're looking at the human factor and the humans are the issue or so, I know in Texas and the district school district that I'm getting right to combat against gun violence, all students have to have clear, transparent backpacks. Oh. Okay. Yeah. Most people carry AR 15s backpacks. Right. But even then it's like they're not checking the backpack. They just have a clear one. So they don't, they're not going through a security checkpoint. They're not, you know, they just have clear backpacks. Ain't nobody run up to you on like the, on the blacktop running all the way over there, like, sorry, sun was shining on your bag. I couldn't get a clear view. So I had to run up to you and see what's in here. All right. I see you're good. Go ahead. Go inside. No, nobody's doing that. And Alex, do you ever think like this as a parent when you hear something like this? I often think about what other parents are thinking and I, I'd have to think that when you think about that damn picture, you just painted with, you know, a kid going up to what he said, a black kid going up to the school with a gun, like the last thing I want to think about is my kid being around anything like that or the thought, I can't even fathom like a kid walking up to the school with a gun or like, you know what I mean? It's like, it's a, it's a tough thought. It's a hard time. Hey, you better start thinking about it because that's what we do around here. You better get used to it. Kids shoot up schools, adults shoot up schools, somebody be shooting up these schools. So as much as we want to say, oh, it's such a crazy thought. It's not. It just happened. It's not last week and 217 other times. Yeah. We just said that on average, it's a little less than day, a little less than one shooting a day. Okay. But to me, that doesn't take away the impact. So I guess that's where we are as a country, like I'm going to get an impact of what of a kid is still, it's going to be crazy, no matter how many times it happens, it's going to be crazy to me because it shouldn't happen. It's what I'm saying. I know that it happens. I know that. But to give into that thought means that we're being desensitized to me anyway. So it's always going to be crazy to me. The thought of a kid going to a school, shooting and killing other kids is always going to be crazy to me. And the thought, the fact that it doesn't seem crazy enough to the leaders of the free world to do something about it or to act on it, you know, before it got to, you know, to this point to the 218 accounts, you know, this year, I mean, there have been bills presented and stuff in Congress and, you know, we'll get into some of that a little bit later. But as far as this specific case, so they have some kind of special IDs with some safety technology from a company called, I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing this right. Is it Centigix? Centigix. Centigix. I don't know. Something like that. Yeah. C-E-N-T-E-G-I-X. So they can use this to press a button to alert an, quote, active situation. So this could be something like a school shooting. This could be something like maybe a service, maybe a kid's having a seizure or some type of medical emergency. And I've been saying a lot about this and, you know, oh, we have this more people would have got shot if we didn't have this and we were able to come and handle the situation fast. That's all well and good. But, you know, four people are still dead and nine other people are still hurt. So, I mean, because the kid had a gun. But do we think that like, is this a good thing that they have these, these IDs with safety technology? I look at it two ways. I think that the technology has the potential to be good, but was it, is the, is the technology to prevent or just to get the police there in a timely fashion? It's not going to prevent. It's prevent from getting worse. So it's not, you know, I guess in this aspect, because I was wondering, okay, I was wondering if it was, if they, if that company was receiving praise or if they, if they stock plummeted. But yeah, it's, to me, the way it works, it doesn't seem like it was supposed to prevent. So, I mean, how long did it take the officers to get there? So to answer your question, though, it took six minutes for a police to respond to the school. And that's, that's aside from the safety officers who are already there, the resource office. Right. Okay. So you're right, Marcus, this is not a preventative tool, it's a reactive tool, right? Preventative means, you know, you, if there's measures in place that will prevent something from happening. This is more of a reaction. So with that, you know, obviously if there happens as, as Alex alluded to that, depending on the number of clicks, it tells their system what kind of emergency it is. And so I, I think, you know, Alex, I think that this is a good idea as a responsive tactic, right, to increase the time or response of, of, of whatever officials or whatever uniform men that need to come through. Because I don't know if you like how much research you've done on the, on the, this, this security system itself, but it provides like, like there's an app that, you know, the staff can use a police are using and the app actually includes like a map of all of everyone that has a badge so they can see where, you know, individuals are or victims are or whatever, which is great. Right. Like that, that's, I think that's a great, great tool, but again, in terms of prevention, you know, that's not how that's not solving the issue is just putting another bandaid on it. It's a lot of bad days, bro. It is, and in terms of that six minute response for a nine millimeter bullets are around right and nine millimeter, depending on what kind of gun, but on average travels around 1200 feet per second or 820 miles per hour. If it takes six minutes for someone to respond, I mean, I'm not going to say how many bullets that is flying around, but clearly that can be several hundred bullets flying around at a given point in time, especially with an automatic rifle. So with that, you know, six minutes, sure, that may seem like it's not a lot of time, but when someone has a firearm that can shoot six minutes is a long time, we'd have it's a long time. People can't even listen to songs for longer than two and a half. People struggle to give CPR for, you know, a minute or two. You know what I'm saying? Like that's six minutes is a long response time. Before they're praising that, it seems as if, you know, sure, they could have been a lot longer this set of the other, but in terms of, again, the honing in on what's important here and preventing, it's not a preventative measure. No. I don't know. It's interesting how they got this kid alive, I mean, right? You would think if like children have been killed for a lot less. I'm just, I don't, I mean, if we're going to get on that standpoint too, I don't understand how he's alive and walking in well. Whoa. I do, but this isn't the podcast for that. Yeah. Yeah, man. I mean, it's a, you know, it's another day in America kids getting popped. So I mean, I feel, I feel safe. How about you? Yeah. I'm in school. I don't, I'm not either, but I don't feel safe. I don't feel safe either. I mean, it's kind of interesting that, you know, I kind of experienced a tiny scare. Nothing as, you know, nothing as drastic or traumatizing as what happened in Georgia, but we had a lot of police cars stationed around our neighborhood a few days ago because there was a missing, I think they were, they were looking for someone, I don't think he was escaped. An escaped convict. I think they were just looking for, um, and try and identify someone walking around our neighborhood. And so, yeah, yeah, but it was, it, it scaled up to the point where all the schools in the area, um, were on lockdown. So my kids couldn't have recess, man, for like a good portion, you know, but, uh, they might have been safer outside because they always kill everybody inside the school. Right. Yep. So to your point, Alex, uh, yeah, man, school is, school is crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did you guys do active shooter drills when you were younger? Yeah, I even did them when I was an adult, so, but did you do them at school as a kid? Yes. Yes. No. No, sorry. No, as a kid, I did not do. Yeah. So this goes, I'm Marcus. She went to school with Brian. So you didn't do him either. Active shooter drills? Mm hmm. Well, maybe I got a confused with a tornado drill, but yeah, we did tornado drills. That was something that we, we did for sure. Yeah. Which completely makes sense to be reactive to mother nature. I understand that, I understand that, I understand fire drills, all of those things. They don't even call them active shooter drills at my daughter's school. I don't remember what they call them. She explained it to me the other day and, uh, my daughter doesn't know what a gun is at this point. Wow. That's something we traffic in over here, but, uh, she's eight might be time to go ahead and explain to her what those things are, which breaks my heart. And it's not, it's not a thing of like, uh, you know, you want your kids to be aware and stuff. Um, I don't think I was aware in that manner at eight, I don't think it was till I was at least double digits where it was something that I understood the totality of. You know what I'm saying? Because I wasn't concerned about getting killed at school from another person on purpose. Yeah. If anything, it was just getting jumped or something. I mean, you know, yeah, it wasn't, yeah, maybe something like that or may, or as far as being hurt for real, it was tornadoes acts of God, you know, it's what they call it, but, uh, that's, uh, it's a sober, a sobering thought that we have an entire generation of kids who have to practice in case someone comes in with something that can probably be eradicated if enough of us gave a fuck about it. No, you're not wrong and that getting that goes back to everything that's being put in place for schools, whether again, if the argument is out there, put more guns in school, transparent backpacks, uh, you know, all of those things, again, are reactive measures, you know, what's being done to prevent. And that's the conversation that really needs to be had. I think a technology has to be invented or something that's very, uh, something that proves to have a large amount of monetary gain, like we could sell. That's what's going to change it, man. Yeah. What are you? Oh, but we sell the guns, though, so good luck with that. I know exactly what you mean. We need something on the opposite side of it. Yeah. We say we, we just mean some selfish motherfucker that loves capitalism can make a lot. Once safety proves to be more fruitful, more lucrative, than fucking violence killing people. Yeah. Guns are the leading cause of death for children and teens. To repeat that, we get this off, then we're going to get out of here in April of 2021 in response to an anti gun violence, non profit, giving Georgia governor, or excuse me, given the state of Georgia and F for its gun laws. Governor Kemp said he was proud of the failing grade. I'll wear this F as a badge of honor. He wrote on Twitter. Our second amendment is sacred and I'll never back down from defending Georgians constitutional rights. All right. That's good. In 2021, Kemp signed a bill into law that made it legal for gun owners in the state to carry a concealed weapon in public without first obtaining a license. Well naturally, they had a press conference after all this transpired and Georgia's governor was asked, quote, is there any more your office can do to prevent shootings like this in schools? His reply was, well, look, we've done a tremendous amount on school safety, but today is not today for politics or policy today is a day for an investigation and I just want to offer my sincere condolences and our thoughts and prayers to the families of that have lost loved ones. All right. Typical answer. I would expect that at this point, especially from someone of the Republican persuasion, but I beg to differ on two different counts. So he mentions thoughts and prayers and he also mentions this isn't the time for policy. Let's start with that first one. Thoughts and prayers. We do that a lot. Doesn't seem to be working. And since we're dealing with the South, we're dealing with people who like to traffic in the Christian, I shouldn't say traffic. That sounded bad who believe in Christian traditions and Christian faith. I turn you to James two and 14. What good is it my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds, can such faith save them? What that means is we can have all the faith and give all the prayers. But if we don't do anything, what good is the faith? But the second part, policies, politics, we're in the midst of election season. So let's take a look at what our presidential and vice presidential nominees have said since all of this went down this past Wednesday. Donald Trump said, oh, he didn't say anything because he hasn't said a word about it. He just rolled on true social, quote, our hearts are with the victims and loved ones of those affected by the tragic event in Winder, Georgia. These cherished children were taken from us far too soon by a sick and deranged monster. All right, bare minimum there and we have Kamala Harris, who said at a rally later in the day after the school shooting. So before I begin, I do want to say a few words about this tragic shooting that took place this morning in Winder, Georgia. We're still gathering information about what happened. But we know that there were multiple fatalities and injuries. And you know, our hearts are with all the students, the teachers and their families, of course, and we are grateful to the first responders in the law enforcement that were on the scene. But this is just a senseless tragedy on top of so many senseless tragedies. And it's just outrageous that every day in our country in the United States of America that parents have to send their children to school worried about whether or not their child will come home alive. It's senseless, we've got to stop it, and we have to end this epidemic of gun violence in our country once and for all. You know, it doesn't have to be this way, it doesn't have to be this way. You know, a lot of us, I'll speak about myself, you know, we had, well, I grew up in California, earthquake drills, we had fire drills, but our kids are sitting in a classroom where they should be fulfilling their God-given potential. And some part of their big, beautiful brain is concerned about a shooter busting through the door of the classroom. It does not have to be this way. It does not have to be this way. And you know, this is one of the methods of everything. Two seemingly very different takes there, let's get to the vice presidential candidates. Tim Walz, I believe his was the day or two after the shooting, had this to say. The news cycle moves on within a day, what we saw yesterday down in Georgia. Kids going to school, the first week of school, excited. Now we have four dead, so our hearts go out to the two students and the two teachers who were killed. Their families be in mourning, there's many injured, in winder, and that community will never be the same. I said this in all of you here, both as a teacher and as a student and as a dad. I loved back to school season. Time of hope, excitement. Now for those kids, it'll always be a time of sheer terror, and that'll be a memory that they'll hold forever. And it's a reminder to the rest of the country. We've got work to do, and I, for one, am sick and tired of hearing about thoughts and prayers rather than actually doing something about it. And I say this to all of you, I know guns. I'm a veteran, I'm a hunter, but we can't let them make this just about the second amendment. I defend the second amendment, but our first responsibility is to keep our kids safe. Every day Vice President Harris said it doesn't have to be this way, and I can tell all of you, of someone who's owned guns my whole life and hunted, I can tell you I can remember it with such clarity. I sat in my office in D.C. when I was a member of Congress, and it was shortly after the Sandy Hook massacre, and I sat in there with all those parents. And at that point in time, I was an NRA guy. That's many of us grew up with that, that they were gun safety. And I was the only one who took the meeting with them. They tried to get meetings with people who wanted to do this, and to sit in there and listen to these parents. I think about it today, my son this week started his senior year of high school. And it's bittersweet for me because those killed at Sandy Hook would have been entering their senior year two at the same time, and those parents now are without those. So look, we've got something to vote for, not just against. We've got a better future, a better way forward, a way that makes sure that we're not just after the fact, spending a day or so talking about this, not doing anything about it. There's things we can do. Other countries don't have to live like this. Other countries have figured this out. So look, I keep talking about this. Finally, we have J.D. Vance, Vice Presidential nominee. This is what he says. First of all, what happened in Georgia is just an awful tragedy. And I know we've got a lot of parents and a lot of grandparents in this room. I cannot imagine little kids so excited to go back to school. God love them. And they're their first week back from the summer, and an absolute barbarian decides to open fire and take their lives and also a couple teachers. I don't like this. I don't like to admit this. I don't like that this is a fact of life. But if you are a psycho and you want to make headlines, you realize that our schools are soft targets. And we have got a bolster security in our schools so that a person who walks through the front door, we've got a bolster security so that if a psycho wants to walk through the front door and kill a bunch of children, they're not able to. And again, as a parent, do I want my kids' school to have additional security? No, of course I don't. I don't want my kids to go to school in a place where they feel like you've got to have additional security. But that is increasingly the reality that we live in. It's a fact of life. It is increasingly the reality we live in. We have two drastically different ways of thinking on this particular topic. And I gave you guys a lot of facts as we went through this here podcast. And I think we have one party who seems to be letting facts lead them by saying it doesn't have to be this way while we have another who is so beholden to the fact that we need guns that, hey, it's just the fact that life is the reality we live in. Now, I agree with him, it is the reality we live in, but a fact of life is like breathing. Gun violence. Gun violence is not inevitable, dog. Yo, that, yo, when you really like break down, I know you about to go on your shit, man. But hold on, man, just let me get my little piece off. Yo, the simple fact, the simple fact, I hate that word now, you sound avoidable, the simple fact that he thinks he, his message is that it's a fact of life. It's like, it's like y'all said, like, like the law is a man made construct. Like the gun is a man made. So how is it that man can't change the man made constructs? It's just a simple fact of life. It's the same thing I said on one of the other podcasts we had after a school shoot. Surprise of freedom, dog. If we want guns, what? If we want to keep guns and we want guns to proliferate and we don't care to do much of anything to try to stop it, hey, your kids might get shot at school. Yo. Yeah. It's your kid's school next? It's a possible, man. Because everyone thinks it can't happen to them until it does. Yeah, right. And, but it's a fact of life that your child's school could be next. See, that's the thought that I hate, right? And I mean, at this point, according to J.D. Vance, that's the reality. I mean, it is the reality we live in, but that's, that's the fact of life, right? See to me, when I hear these stories, I digest and reflect like I don't ever, I feel like we're doing, we are doing the kids a disservice by thinking that way, thinking that, yo, it could have it, yo, that shit, yo, I always think it can happen to me whenever it happens. I put myself in a situation like, yo, that's, that's shitty, like the watch seeing these people, like my wife watched, like the, all the video, like somebody put a fucking montage of all the parents rushing to the school because when they got the news, I don't want to watch that because it would put me, I would force myself to try to feel what that feels like. But see, this is, this is another part of the media landscape at this point. So these things happen and we flock to try to find what we believe is information. And it's not information. We ends up happening is we have a variety of interviews with parents, students, so on and so forth that this happened to, it's not helping anything and it's not helping anything. And rather than focusing on the common thread with all of these school shootings, they're two common threads. There are people and guns. We don't want to do background checks to figure out what's going on with the people. We don't want red flag laws to help prevent something happening with the people simultaneously. We won't do anything to curtail guns. And these are the only two things that are consistent in every school shooting. It's the gun job, it's the guns. And I just want to add, before we get out of here, that school shooting was, like I say, 218th of the year, 219th happened Friday, one dead after shooting in Maryland high school bathroom. We'll see y'all next time switching gears now. We are following breaking news at a Baltimore area high school. Sky nine was over Japatown High School this afternoon where there was a shooting inside of a bathroom. The Harford County Sheriff says the shooting stemmed from a fight between two students. This happened less than four hours ago, and you can see the really heavy police response here, the heavy presence, along with students who had to be evacuated from the school. The sheriff says a 15-year-old victim was flown to a trauma center. We've learned that he is in serious condition. Well, of course, continue to stay on top of this school shooting. We'll bring you any new information as soon as authorities give it to us. We have a sad update on a breaking news at a Baltimore area high school. Within the past 15 minutes, the Harford County Sheriff's Department said the 15-year-old boy shot today in the bathroom at Japatown High School has died. [BLANK_AUDIO]