- Hi, today is September the 8th, 2024. This is moment of the podcast, 527 Happy Star Trek Day. I'm out of Bonsoir, my good friend, a good Dr. John Westwell, and our other good friend, Sven Johansson, got a lot of stuff to talk about. But we got to start with Star Trek Day. So I don't have a lot of Star Trek memorabilia, but I do have like a pewter enterprise and a patch from the show. And, oh, my insignia is hidden behind my, well, behind me. Oh, and plus a little communicator that used to work. That used to be, well, not like work work, but it used to be and have some blinky lights, but those 20 years ago. - I have one of the ones that actually does work that's the Bluetooth speaker. - Oh, yes. - Every single time I pull it out and play with it. But yeah. - That's what's hidden behind me. I have a Bluetooth speaker and when I was working, in fact, let me go get it so people know what we're talking about. So back in the days before I retired, there it is. And it has, I guess this is mobile technology. Has a magnetic thing, so you can stick it on your shirt. In fact, I will do so for Star Trek Day. There you go. And it is a Bluetooth transceiver with a speaker. And so, and since I could pair it with my phone and my phone had Google Meet on it, I'm sorry, Microsoft Teams on it, which is kind of spelled backwards. When I, the very few times I would actually, actually I got more calls in there. When I got phone calls while I was walking around and if I happened to be wearing this, I could just hit it and answer the phone call. So that was pretty cool. I felt very Star Trek-y on those days. - I don't remember blue shirts though. - Science officer. - Sports business, that makes sense. - Yeah, but it wasn't this dark. It was like a lighter blue, light blue. - Or if you're in the next gen era, the blue could be a blue green or a regular blue, depending on what season. I mean, that was the color. I think they had the hardest trouble trying to keep consistent across the different types of uniforms and now with the remaster of next generation, you really can see things they never wanted you to see. The fact that there's walking next to each other, one of their blues will be blue, the other will be green, blue, it's got a flash. - Right. - I've never forget, since I'm testing this light, let me try to pick it up for a minute, see what the difference is. Oh yeah, I am kind of dark without the, I've got a new selfie light. Doesn't make a difference, doesn't it? - It does, yeah. - Yeah, how about that? Okay. So I got my new selfie light, which seems to be pretty effective. I should also note that not only is this Star Trek day, but in Star Trek Deep Space Nine, for truckers of note, this is the year and month, September 2024 of the Bell Riots from Star Trek Deep Space Nine, and it's one of the better time travel episodes, in my opinion. So, I'm gonna go watch it again, now that I think about it. (laughing) The Bell Riots in San Francisco, September 2024 in the history of Star Trek. Okay, first thing I wanted to mention is something I am just wrestling mightily with. I think I'm not gonna buy it, but there's DJI, makers of note of very, very, very popular drones, and of Swinn's very, very cool camera, action camera of sorts, has this really tiny, really reasonably price, $200 US, DJI Neo. And it literally says, what's that? - Now put that down the bottom of the notes. - Oh, did you? - Well, top, put it at the top of the notes, and I just figured you both wanted to talk about it, but not at the same time. - Oh, yeah. So, anyway, so I think the reason I wanted is, A, I can afford it, B, you know, on my retiree pay. So, A, I can afford it at $200, although the combo is like 380, I think. And this is, that's what I really wanted, extra batteries and controller and stuff. And it can follow me. So, I could do a walk-and-talk podcast, or a video of vidcast, I guess, without holding my Insta360 camera, which I, you know, it wouldn't be quite as nice image, I think, although it claims it's 4K, and I couldn't record as long, 'cause I think it's like 18 minutes, a flight, although the Solici drive in there can do, I think, about 50 something minutes. But the problem with it is, despite all the pluses, is it can't fly stably and 18 miles, winds higher than 18 miles per hour. So, in Hawaii, trade winds, on a nice day, today's kind of windless, but on a nice day, 20, 25 mile hour winds are kind of common, at least gusts. So, that's kind of, but I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking, and we can, we can talk more when we get down there. The other thing I wanted to mention, oh, and this is not in the right, you know how Apple is turning to OpenAI for its Apple intelligence, to chat GPT? Well, apparently, Amazon gave up on its AI, its internal AI project, and they're going to license and Thropics Clawed AI to provide its Amazon Echo AI-ness. And this is no surprise, but they're gonna charge $5 to $10 a month extra, even if you're an Amazon Prime subscriber. I've got a bunch of echos, to be honest. I don't think I'm gonna be another $5 to $10 a month. - Well, and the problem to Amazon's perspective is that you're not using the Echo in the way they wanted you to anyway, because you seemingly won't just tell Amazon, it's all the A word to order you things randomly on a whim, which was, you know, their whole idea behind making low cost hardware that could do some of those things, and it's mostly for pet food. But, you know, every couple of days, like maybe even more frequent than that says, "Hey, you know, according to you or whatever, whatever." It's maybe time for you to reorder, you know, some pet food or something, and of various kinds, 'cause, you know, there's five or six or seven different things they order. And I do, I say, "Yeah, put it in my cart." And I'll go buy it, you know, when I kind of fill up my cart with stuff, so I don't just have one little bag of pet food coming in all by itself. So I do kind of use it like that, not big ticket items, but I would say once or twice a week, they do that. - What I liked was when they had the button that they ran, you know, it was about 10 years ago where you could actually put a little button anywhere in your house, and if you'd have to, they would reorder. That seemed far more useful when people were finally, you know, in their closet going, "Oh, I need this, I can just have that button, "and it'll add it, and it'll show up." But those apparently didn't work either, so. - And I think, though, it's product specific, right? - They had like little logos for like Kaid detergent or whatever consumable thing you needed to reorder. Yeah, I never did try it, but I too thought it was an interesting idea. Well, we'll see. - But it's interesting unless you have kids. (laughing) - Yeah, you're button up very high. That's the thing. - Yeah, that's the thing. - Or if you have a very smart pet, I don't know if you've seen that pet pig on YouTube that presses buttons so that the owner has, the human has recorded some phrases like feed me vegetables or pet me or take me for a walk or whatever, and the pig wanders over and presses a button every now and then and says, you know, feed me, feed me or something. So, you know, maybe the pet pig can reorder things for itself. - What's the chance a pig is gonna push a button that says feed me? (laughing) - Well, it seems to be pretty smart. Pigs are pretty smart. I mean, there's so many dogs. (laughing) We have like a pot belly pig wandering around our neighborhood every now and then. I don't know if it's a person's pet. Normally, pot belly pigs are pets, but didn't see a collar or anything. Yeah, so there's that. Oh, I did wanna say it's not on the show in our show notes, but recently, I think Gemini for Pixel Tablet is finally available. It's been available for Android phones for a while, but the Pixel tablet, it kept telling me it was like not insoluble. Finally, a couple of weeks ago, I said it, you couldn't install it. And so I did. And so if it is locked, Google Assistant still responds in a female voice, but if it's unlocked, you know, it's an active and you talk to it, same question. It responds using Google Gemini in a male voice, which I guess helps you tell what you're talking to. - Well, I installed it this morning. And one of the setups is you've got about well, different voices you can choose. - Yeah, but people. - Yeah. - I really like it. And it doesn't cost me anything extra. So Google Gemini in a Pixel tablet in unlock mode is pretty cool on lock mode too, but unlock mode, it's, you know, it's got Gemini power and all that. So that's pretty cool. All right. Okay. So tomorrow, Monday, September 9th, it's glow time. I think John has a few things he's thinking of buying, but based on what I'm reading, there's nothing for me. - Oh, there's a stressful, you just want to buy it. - Yeah. Well, yeah, there's always things for what you thought. You just would not like to purchase more than you need to for it. Yeah, it's interesting. So a couple of things. First of all, this is a Monday announcement. - Right. - That's bizarre. It's been a Tuesday for as long as I can ever remember with this. - Except this Tuesday the 10th is the US presidential debate. - Yeah. - I guess. - It's not all day. - Yeah, it's gonna be busy prepping. Maybe they're popping popcorn or something all day. And they need all day. - Well, you know, they want the whole new cycle day to themselves. They don't want even like one hour not to be about them. - Yeah, I don't blame them. - Yeah, I'm very interested in the iPhone 16 Pro on iPhone 13 Pro now. And I definitely want to play with Apple Intelligence when it finally rolls out completely. So I want to have a phone that will be able to do that. Plus, I'm just kind of ready to have a new device after three years. The Apple Watch 10 would have to be really awesome for me to upgrade from my Ultra 2. I've been very happy with that over the last year aside from the weird issues I had with an update back last fall that drained the battery prematurely and all that craziness. So that I would consider almost having two Apple watches just to play with the 10 and, you know, have the Ultra as well. And I'd be one of those people that has two watches that I use regularly. I certainly have enough fans for them, but it would have to be pretty awesome. And I do know I want a new MacBook sometime this year, but it doesn't look like those are going to be announced tomorrow, so we'll see what happens. But eventually that is my goal by the end of the calendar here, even if I have to, I'll just buy another of the MacBook errors like my wife has that I'm pretty happy with. - Yeah, so when you're thinking about buying anything, at least on what no of couldn't be announced tomorrow? - Yeah, and it's not even because it's being announced tomorrow, but iPhone 16 Pro XL, kind of like John. But for me, I've got a 14. And while it still works just fine, it's about time every two years is probably good for me. And it rankles me that my wife has a 15 Pro XL. So I'd like to, I'm getting less and less things that have something other than USB-C. So that's oddly enough of a consideration, a consideration. - Oh, there's a 14, like me? - Yes, working this, yeah. So that's kind of the thing there. I'm not a big AI fan at this point. You mentioned that Gemini is on the tablet now. I've got a, I just got a Pixel 9 Pro Max, so I've got that on there. And apparently when you buy one of those, you get a year of Gemini advanced for free. - Right, right. - I loaded that or signed up for whatever you call it. And I just haven't, don't really have a great use for it. I did the Gemini on the tablet. I was not exceptionally impressed on the advanced. I did the, have a chat with Gemini thing. And it was very disappointing. I said, you know, I have nothing to be able to talk about. I said, where's a good place to eat in Colorado Springs? And it said, oh, there's a lot of great places to eat. What are you in the mood for? And I said, Italian. And it said, absolutely nothing. It just sucked. (laughing) - It said no though, sorry about that. - And I didn't say anything. I said, well, gee, that's not very helpful. And I said, oh, I'm sorry, I wasn't being helpful. Are you looking for a fast food? Or, no, I was looking for Italian. (laughing) - I thought that seemed pretty obvious, but so. - I guess that was your impact. - Yeah, well, we have, you know, we have Italian restaurants here. We have, you know, individuals, beans in one. But there's no shortage. So, I don't know, not very impressed. - Yeah. - Yeah, so I don't see much else. I've got an original Ultra, and that's fine for me. I mean, I'm not a physical guy, so I don't know. - Yeah, sort of. - Like it's 'cause it's big. I do like a bigger watch. - So the rumors, from a harder point of view, the rumors are that it's gonna be, like he said, a new iPhone, that's kind of a given in every September. I've got a 15 Pro Max, so I'm not in a rush to go replace it. I think I did replace my 14 Pro, because I'm a bit of a USB C port on my phone. You know, like, you know, just to standardize on the charging. But no, so in that, and let's see what else is it. Oh, Apple Watch, series 10, I've got a six. So it's about time to please. In fact, I've had to turn off always on display just to save battery life on a daily basis. - I did just trade in a six. My wife and I went down and traded in a few old Apple things that we had, just got the gift cards on it so we get cash in there, in the account for buying new stuff this week. - Yeah. - Yeah, I think John was talking about having two watches. I've had that in the past, it's kind of interesting. They do a very good job with if you have one phone and two watches. - Well, I have a lot of Apple Watch in a Fitbit, so I guess I could-- - Well, I don't do a job with that. But if you have two watches, the one you put, you can set it up, the one that you put on your wrist is the one that it talks to. You take it off, you put the one off it. It does a very good job at that. - I do not know if they had my series zero and a series three at the same time, and I did do that, and it was nice. But between the series zero and the series three was such a dramatic shift in responsivity, even though they were exactly the same size, it was just kind of depressing whenever you put the series zero on, even if I just used it for sleep tracking and other things while the series three was charging. But that would be the only real reason I would get another watch would be to have something for when this watch is charging. Plus, I get really annoyed whenever I have to do any kind of swap anymore because Apple seems to lose things every time I send them back in. So express replacement has become really annoying. I'm okay with the idea of maybe regular replacement where I'm without the device for a week or two, but I need a backup at that point if I'm gonna be without the device. - Right, right. - Yeah, okay. - The other thing I can see is somebody's got, it was got an ultra for, 'cause they're an athlete sort of gunna guy and they're using it for that, but when they go out for an evening or something, they might want a smaller watch to throw off. - Yeah, yeah. - And if you don't use an ultra, don't you? - Yeah, and I actually was thinking about that last year when I went to the ultra and all of the bands that I had for the others actually don't look too out of place with the ultra. I mean, they're obviously gonna fit, but just the idea that you can use the ultra bands or you can use any of the other bands. I still have the link bracelet from back with the Series Zero and it looks just fine, even though it's stainless steel versus the ultra's polished steel look. But yeah, so that might be the only thing that would tempt me. The only thing that is keeping me from saying 100% I'm gonna go to the 16 Pro is that I did just replace the battery in this 13 Pro and it's at 100% capacity. So it makes me think if I needed to, I could limp along another year with it. - Also, you'll lose the SBO2 monitor if you go through this. - Oh, that's true, yeah. - Unless they announced that they're bringing it back with a new algorithm with the 10s. So we'll see how that happens. 'Cause they could do that. - Now, the one thing that I'm kind of disappointed about is that apparently the next generation AirPods, not AirPods amateur, but not the AirPods Pro are gonna release. And my first gen AirPods Pro as I mentioned the last time, we're starting to hit it a little crackly and I did some reading. I says, well, maybe clean the microphones. I gently wiped the microphone on the AirPods Pro and that seems to have helped. So, you know, maybe it's okay now, but I'm, we'll see. Maybe the new AirPods are good enough, you know? I don't, we're walking with them 'cause they fall out. So I just, you know, from into house, you know, when I'm, you know, deafening or something or something's loud and I just wanna listen to something. So we'll see, we'll see. - Yeah, the other thing that Mike lined up in the house is the new AirPods Mini, if they, if they release one. - Matt, Mini, or I part? - I'm sorry, iPad. - Oh, iPad Mini, yeah. So Mark, Mark Gurman has a pretty decent track record of these leaks says that they'll probably be a separate October event for a new iPad Mini 7 or whatever they call it, plus an M4 base Mac Mini. So we'll have to wait 'til next month, if that's the case, but I'm hopeful. - Yeah, I just, my Mac Mini was one of the things I traded in. - Yeah. - Oh, you just got that recently, I thought. - No, it was an M1. It was when it first came out a couple of years. - Oh, just, and I bought an iMac, so. - Yeah. - And I've got the MacBook, so I really didn't need three M1 things. - Yeah, I've got a M1 MacBook Air that's just perfectly fine. But if M4 Mac Mini is inexpensive enough, let's say 4.99, I think I would, you don't think it's gonna be 4.99? - Yeah, I think it's 5.99, 6.99, though. I wouldn't do that. - 5.99. - And if they do 4.99, it's gonna have 32 Mega Ramers. (laughs) - Geeks, well. - No, no, no, it's storage. - Orange store, all over SSD. - Gotta be 128 gig or something like that. - Yeah. - So this is the one that we can put the price on the site, but nobody's gonna buy, so we're gonna build two. - Yeah. Well, you know, I have a Surface Pro 4, which I bought with a terabyte of SSD, only available for Costco, otherwise you max out at 512 gigs. For this model, this is done non-elite, the Propilot plus PC amateur. And the one thing you can't run is my Insta360 Studio, so for, so hence the Mac Mini M4 is looking a lot more attractive. Okay, so I think John is, I don't know, I thought John is doing something there, okay. - No, I'm over here charging batteries that I'm thinking of just randomly that haven't been charged in a while, so. - The only excitement I have, thanks. - So I do have, you know, my discussion topic though, about what we, I said we're not gonna get this year. You know, gotta complain a little bit before Apple tells everything is fine and everything's wonderful. One thing that I've recently started doing, I've been doing it for a few years, but I've been playing more with the custom workouts on Apple Watch, where you can set up exactly what you want in terms of custom runs and things like that. And it just baffles me that you can't build those on the phone, that you have to build them on the watch. You can't use the phone's watch app to configure them, even though you can configure pretty much everything else on the watch through the watch app. - That is weird. - And I would really love the ability to custom playlists for each one, so that I could, you know, tailor the music to what I wanna be doing, you know, in terms of five minutes of this sort of, you know, intensity, 10 minutes here and there. Of course, I've always been asking for greater Apple Watch face customization, but we're, I don't think ever going to get that. Apple has decided that all watches need to, I mean, there's something like 30 different watch faces now, so they don't have to look the same anymore, but they can't look too different. - Right. - So that's another one. I want more notification triggers for shortcuts, because there's certain things that Siri knows about, but Siri won't tell my shortcuts that they happen. So, you know, you can trigger things off of a lot of different things, you know, time of day, sleep stay, transactions that you open, messages, things that you probably would never even care to trigger about. - Do you use shortcuts a lot on your-- - I do, I use shortcuts daily for a number of things. I use, you know, I have simple ones like tracking how many times I've worn a pair of contact lenses. So I have a little shortcut I hit in the morning that increments, and then when it gets to a certain level, it goes, hey, you know, do you want me to reset? Hey, you should really change your contacts at this point, 'cause I don't wear contacts every single day, so it helps me keep track of those things. I've got other ones for journaling, others for, you know, random decisions I don't want to make, or it's like, oh, what's the luck of the draw on this one? You know, flip a point and tell me what it is, random number stuff. But what I really would like is if it's something that Siri knows about, like calendar appointments starting, or, you know, other things in that regards, you know, pending to do's, then let me trigger an automation off that. Instead of just telling me, hey, this appointment's coming up, let me actually do something with that knowledge. And then better accessories, I do like Apple's first party accessories because the fit aesthetic pretty well, I mean, that's the whole thing, so they better. But the fine woven stuff did not get good reviews last year, and it still seems to be, it seems like they're not going to make any substantial changes. Hopefully they will, but I'd like to see Apple's first party accessories kind of step up a little. And an iPad with an always on display would be nice, just because you could turn it into a Bluetooth docked sort of thing that could be a mobile FaceTime thing. Yeah, exactly, a Pixel tablet, if it had an always on display, that would be the only thing you'd be wanting on it. And I guess inductive charging would be good too for that. But you could do that through the smart connector. Yeah, so that's what I would love to see tomorrow, but I don't think we're going to get any of those things anytime soon. Yeah, and I think Swin and I are kind of on the Steam page. We both kind of want a new iPad mini, which is not going to happen, and maybe an M4 Mac, which is not going to happen to, at least tomorrow, maybe an October event, which is not. OK, Steve is joining us. All right. Steve Hughes is Mike. Yeah, he's just lurking. He doesn't actually want to talk to us. He just wants to. Maybe he had a shortcut with an automation to join the-- [INTERPOSING VOICES] That might have been it. That could have been it. Can I unmute Steve from here? I don't think so. Can I unmute him? No. He's wanting to be silent. He does not want to be heard from. So anyway, under that, what I'd like to get next year is notifications that actually work. And this is more of a gripe than anything else, because I was looking at it every morning. I check my notifications, or they show up anyway. But I look at my notifications, and it's nice to know that my garage door opened last Tuesday. But it's been closed and opened several times since then. Yes, I do know that Alexa said I needed to do something yesterday. But the notifications are just-- it just seems they're kind of random on stuff that they provide you that's already gone. And I wish, with all the AI they talk about, it'd be nice to look at the notifications that you're supplying somebody and say, is this thing even worthwhile anymore and get rid of it? What is-- what is-- I'm looking at show notes, OBE Overcome by Events. Well, it's-- I'm supposed to do this, but it's been overcome by events. I don't need to do that anymore. I thought that was officer of the order and the bishop. Officer of the order and the bishop here. You know that too. If you get that, you should be notified reliably that you were awarded up. Yes, yeah. It's a term where you use a lot of work. It's-- it's-- there's no point in doing that anymore. It's, you know, it's OBE. I have not heard of that. No, it's a-- maybe it's a-- maybe it's a military government-side term, but yeah. It was a government term that they never told you, Todd, even though you worked in the government. I was a state government. That's different, it's kind of-- Oh, yeah, yeah. I was a contractor for the feds. Yeah, so that's-- but yeah, I would like to see a mini with an all-on-- always on display. And certainly, MagSafe on the back of it, because I've got enough things that my, you know, iPhones slaps onto and sits there. Yeah. And many sitting there, it'd be great that-- Mm-hmm, like that. Well, I-- the notifications issue, I find interesting, because I've played with notifications to try to get them useful. And so often, they're just not. There's too many of them. They-- you know, I've tried the notification wrap-ups that Apple provides and making my notifications much more selective. And I still get a lot of times where I'm overwhelmed with notifications to just delete them all out at once. And, say, well, it would have been nice five minutes ago or 10 hours ago. OK, Steve is back and not muted. Steve can you hear us? I can hear you, but my, like, Mac is in need of a replacement, I think, because-- [LAUGHTER] Amazing how that happens the day before they're going to-- [LAUGHTER] You can hear me now, so-- Yes, we can hear you fine, Steve. We can hear you. So we're just going by Steve Hughes. I should note-- I should thank Steve in person. You know, because it was great to see you in person here in Hawaii last month. That was, like, way fun. And we just lost Steve. [LAUGHTER] Then he left. You mentioned that you saw-- Yeah, you verified you didn't want us to find your life. Yeah, you just want to remember that meeting. [LAUGHTER] Ah, sorry. Anyway, so, yeah, I guess it's winter-- it's winter higher on the same page of things we want to see that probably won't be announced by tomorrow. Well, yeah, tomorrow, September 9th. So here's-- I just flipped up my notifications. I've got it says Alexa, I'm reminding you it's recycled day. I have Alexa reminder set up so that it reminds me when it's recycled and when it's regular trash day. And this is Friday at 6.30 AM. I have cleared that multiple times. It's right. Yay. [LAUGHTER] Yeah, yeah. Some notifications-- you know, the other notification I never understood, and it's not specific to Apple. Like, I can't remember where it originates from, but might be Google Calendar. If you create an all-day event, you know, like somebody's birthday. And then you say, hey, notify me the day before. It notifies you at 11 PM, and by default. And I've never understood why, if I say the day before, why do you think the day before is 11 PM? [LAUGHTER] [INTERPOSING VOICES] The weirder thing with all day events anytime is when you're talking about if you created them in a one-time zone and then you move to another time zone. Yeah. Because that will cause our shifts here and there that make no sense for birthdays. I've started using just the birthday field in contacts, because that tends to be correct. Plus, then, here's a tip. If you tell a contact the birthday with the month, the day, and the year, you can then ask Siri how old someone is, and Siri will tell you. You know, that's probably what it was, is I do that now. I'll put people's birthdays in their contacts if I know it. But prior to Google contacts, when I was just Google Calendar, I think, I don't think I had that option. Or if I did, I didn't know about it. That might-- you know, Steve, you back with us? I think so. I mean-- Yay. Yeah, we-- Just things like doing updates while I'm doing it. It's like, am I on a PC or a Mac? I'm like, what the heck? Yeah, we thought you were annoyed with me mentioning that we actually visited in person last month, and you just said, all right, with this discussion on the left. So anyway, so we're just talking about the Apple event tomorrow, September 10th. Anything you're particularly interested in, Steve? Nope. Just so you can see what comes out next. I don't think you're going to do new air tags or not, too. I don't know if that was mentioned. No. Yeah, so I don't know if that-- I didn't realize that. Yeah, I know they were-- they're planning on doing something, but I don't know if it was going to be this time or something later towards the holidays. And of course, the new watches, I think they have. Of course, the new iPhones, or the capture button. And I don't know if it's worth upgrading, you know? Yeah, I don't have any. Yeah, go ahead. Well, the basic consensus before you joined Steve was that we were saying, if you have a 14 or a 13, yeah, it's probably worth the upgrade. 15, maybe not. Right now, I'm on a 13. I'm thinking, yeah, I kind of want an upgrade just for something new. And Swen mentioned getting off of lightning as much as possible. So that is a good reason to potentially upgrade. Yeah, that's definitely worth it. Plus, you get more memory, because they want to use the camera more. And then pay for more services for storage in the cloud. Of course. OK, so I just did some searching. And Mac Rumor's quotes, Mark Gurman in Bloomberg, saying he does not expect the AirTags to be released until 2025. Of the various rumor mongers, he's a pretty accurate one, basically, so we'll see. The only thing I want to upgrade is my watch, which is currently a series six. So it's been-- it'll be like half a decade, right? Pretty close. Yeah, that's what I have, too. Unless you want to go for a cheap Apple watch, I see. I guess I can plus make a plastic one version of it. Yeah, I don't know how sturdy that-- I mean, I'm not rough on my watch, but you know, it has lasted pretty well. The only thing that's kind of going on in is the battery. The glass and everything else is pretty solid. There's no scratches or any other-- no dents or anything like that. Yeah, and they seem to kind of target that towards kids, who are never hard on a watch, so. Never. Children are well known for their light-touch on everything. And their ability to keep track of it. Yeah, yes. You can use fine-mind to get it. Yeah, you can use fine-mind to find your phone. And then if you had the watch, you used to find your watch. Yeah, I have to say, my daughter has had a watch since she was like-- I think my dad gave her when she was like kindergarten. Never lost it, ever, which is kind of amazing now that I think about it. We have the new AirPods 4, right? That's coming out. That's going to have the noise cancellation, probably. We're just talking about that, because it's going to be the AirPods, AirPods, amateur, not the pro update. And my pros are getting a little long in the tooth, as they say, and maybe in need of an upgrade. I've got the original for the AirPro. Yeah, my mom uses way for a bit. I need to take a phone call here, so. All right. OK. Yeah, my mom uses hers for a hearing aid, in which she forgets her hearing aids, her earpods. That's what I-- But you put your phone down close to the people, and then you put the AirPods in, and she's-- I bought her like-- got her hearing aids, and she's like, you've got to use those a lot better. I was drinking it, but it might have that feature built-in, where I guess it might use the microphone and AirPods itself, rather than needing the phone. It's harder to sigh, though, with actual ear hearing aids. The live listen feature is also great if you have to leave a room for a minute, and you're curious what people are saying about you and your absence. Your phone can conveniently stay behind, while your AirPods tell you what was going on. Which actually-- now that I think about it at work, you know what I mean? If you set the classroom up a meeting, it would actually be very useful. Just be like, don't worry, I have my phone. I'll just leave it here, and I'll be able to pay attention. But if I did that at work, people would think I was a magician, or possessed by the bubbler or something, because considering that Apple Pay is still considered black magic where I live, there's no way that that would fly under the radar. I'd be a witch, for sure. [LAUGHTER] You know, we have a former governor here in our state, who, before he became governor and started wearing suits, used to wear a robe, like a magician's robe, at the University of Hawaii, where he got his PhD. And so, John, you're at a university. There's nobody who will look at you funny if you wear a magician's robe. No, I definitely have thought about how convenient it would be to teach in robes again. Because you don't have to worry about dressing professionally. I could get rid of most of my pair's of dress pants, and most of my dress shirts, and just have the robe. And I could be wearing a jeans and a t-shirt. Yeah, no problem at all. There are formal robes. For magicians, I'm sure. Well, there are formal doctoral robes that I'm-- Yeah, it's true. And I'm sure you have. Others allowed to wear. So I've actually thought about knitting a set of doctoral robes, because my robe that I have is really cheap. It was not the expensive option when I graduated. So I thought about making a nice-- I need a winter pair for a December graduation that I need something lighter for May. So I could do two different robes, and yeah, it'd be kind of nice. They could look like chain nail armor or larping. Oh, yeah. I can do the nice get-out arm-braided panels, and yeah. Yeah, and you could even do-- What is it, the motor port thing? Yeah. You could really do a number on that. Maybe with pulled-down lenses. But speaking of pulled-down lenses-- You're back. Are you a witch? Because that's what we could just talking about, dressing and using technology to make people think you're supernatural. No, you'd have to go to some other place to do-- maybe Alabama or something. You could probably get away with that thing. Where I work, it's tech all the time, so. Since Steve and John-- Now, if you can do SharePoint, you are a witch. [LAUGHTER] More luck. Yeah. Now, I was thinking more Exchange server back in the days when people had them on-prem. That was-- that was wild. [INTERPOSING VOICES] Hey, you know, so Steve's joined us now. And you and John both have the meta smart glasses thing. I got to say, I was telling John in a podcast the other day that I was really impressed by the picture quality, the photo quality from your meta glasses. I think you've got a newer version than John. Yeah, the version too. He has the version. But I think he got a lot of features with the software update. I think they still keep it going, right, John? And the only thing I have a complaint about my first version is that the polarizing film is starting to fray around the edges of the glasses. So I kind of would-- You can get like third party pop-out lenses and replacives to where I might know I'm doing that. But I've been pretty happy with mine. It's-- it shocks me because for software being written by meta, I was not-- I did not have high hopes. And yet they're reliable and they work. And I've got some great videos, you know, theme parks and outdoor activities are where they shine the most, where you don't want to be holding up your phone. But it's like, if I could get a video of the next 30 seconds, that'd be kind of cool, you know? That's what you get. I use them all the time, mountain biking. And it's just phenomenal. How did you get that picture? You got that picture? When did you do that? And I was like, I just say, hey, man, I'd take a picture, take a video. And it's so funny. I'll be driving with regular sunglasses. I'm like, always reaching over and trying to press the button and take a picture. I'm like, oh! That's a stupid regular technology. 95% of the time, after I got all the photos that Steve shared with me, I realized 95% of the time, I didn't realize he was taking any photos or videos. Yeah. We got one with a senator, too. She was like, that was a great shot. A nice camera shot. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we even tried to go meet the governor, but he wouldn't come out of his office. He's getting a haircut. But that was always a lot of fun. I really enjoyed that. We're really held up, too, because I think it got a little rainier, ultra hot and dazed to follow. So that worked out well. Hey, Jake, oh, before-- Oh, we had the Denver this week. So maybe hook up with Sven, if you're available. How far is Denver from Colorado Springs? I don't even know my geography. Oh, Sven's muted. So I shall-- There you go. Yeah, it's about 70 miles, so-- That's not too far. And yeah, I don't know. I don't know if I'll make that. That's when saying, I don't really want to see you, Steven. [LAUGHTER] Oh, wait, I have been-- I have avoided going to Denver. I have avoided going to Denver for the last 15 years. No way! Oh, it's not starting now. It doesn't matter how much you might want to see you. I do. Go on vacation, go on vacation. There's something you have to drive through there, but other than that, I don't want to stop her. Our drive to the airport and an hour drive back out again. Yeah, so I fly out of Colorado Springs, if I can. Yeah, yeah. I've only been to Denver twice, so what is it you don't like about Denver Swin? I like it. It's just driving. It's just horribly crowded. You would not like Honolulu. Yeah, I'm sure I would. But I'm not a big city kind of guy. And Colorado Springs is getting that way. I mean, we're the second biggest city in here. So now it's time to move out of Colorado Springs? No, it's actually-- you know, depending on where you live, you can-- Not too bad. I'm fortunate I go out east to work. So it's fairly nice. If I went south or west, it's just like horrible. Yeah. Hey, Swin, by the way, I'm just looking at the notes. And I saw, what is this Sateki passport thing you have? Yeah, I just got it in some feed that I have. So I like Sateki products, and they make a lot of neat stuff. But there's a lot of people making wallets and things that they stick on a back-your-eye phone that have find my built-in to them. And those wallets are too small for man stuff like this. But this is the first one that actually seemed to like, boy, that thing makes sense. It's a passport wallet, but it has find my built-in to it. So you throw a couple of credit cards in there, and you're in passport, and you travel a lot. That's something you can kind of keep track of where that thing is, if you're the type of leave stuff laying around. And it's got MagSafe charging, so UI charging, essentially. So it says it lasts for a long time. I have no experience with it because I just released it. But something that you've all-- if you've got an iPhone, if you're that kind of person, you've got MagSafe chargers sitting around, and you just lay that thing on it for a while and get a charge back up. That's pretty cool. It's very convenient, it seems like. And I know a good thing. And that's one thing I'd like to see about AirTags, if they made new ones. I wasn't particularly excited about the rumors, because it sounds like they're making the same thing, but a little bit better. And I think they're kind of fat, so-- It'll be a different color besides white, right? Yeah, those black ones and white ones. They're the black one with the white emotes. They'll play a fellow. Yeah. Yeah, I've got a-- Yeah, they made a wallet one or something that-- That'd be really nice. Yeah, because I've got-- Pebbleby is a company that I've got a wallet one from-- worked real well. And I've got to say, you know, something that requires-- or not requires, but can work with a wireless charger, there are more and more multifunction devices making stuff like that really easy. I've got a USB-C laptop hub coming in that has a wireless charger on it. It's like a little cube. I mean, it's really little. I'm hoping to get it in for the next podcast. I think it's like 2 by 2 by 2 or something. And it's got a wireless charger that can just pop up, and there you go while you're at the mother's box. Behind me, I've got a monitor sitting on a monitor stand on one side of the monitor stand, so the wireless charger pad laying on it. Yeah. I haven't bought one yet, though. Yeah, it's got USB ports on the side so that you could use it to plug stuff into. But right on the top, it's got to-- I mean, it's just something that plugs into a USB port while you're using it. So anyway, this is a sub-tech-- There's a vegan leather passport cover with flying my $60. Yeah, I do have a problem with the vegan leather term. It's vinyl. Yeah, and it's plastic. [LAUGHTER] Just, you know, all its space age material or something. Do you want a horned leather? Is that what you like? Yeah, that'd be good. No mad products. Yeah, yeah. Something, it's not vegan leather. We didn't tan a piece of corn or something. So we've got a business plan, though. tan, tan soy. [LAUGHTER] I think-- I think-- who put that in the Gemini dance? And was that you, Swann, or was that Steve, at the bottom of the show notes? Oh, I put it down there. OK. If you buy a Pixel 9, they're giving you-- I don't know if it was a pro or a max or whatever it was, came with it, mine came with a year of, I think, Google 1 with Gemini advanced. KI, yeah. So I'm already-- I was already paying for Google 1, but I said, huh, OK. To the extent your current-- Yeah, it did seem to. I'm having to figure out what they're doing exactly. But that's what it sounded like it did, because they made some gobbledygook about, you know, adding with this thing and other thing, the year out, to whatever. So I don't think they'd extend this stuff. I will-- I can almost tell you right now, I will not renew that at the end of the year. I get a thing on my calendar that says, get rid of this. [LAUGHTER] But I don't forget. So I don't forget. Because I can't imagine myself really-- So most of the time where John is paying for the Microsoft Copilot Pro, Steve, have you subscribed to any of the AI? No, I've been getting them free through different services. Oh, OK. And I just do the same thing too, as I love. I have a calendar reminder right before it's going to expire. Then I usually get another offer for something else, so just keep adding to them. So like the same thing, I do, like, Apple products. Every time I buy one, I get three months free from Best Buy and you keep them rolling into. Because it seems like that cadence, we're always buying something. We've added to the family plan, and everyone benefits from it. It's just kind of nice. But then it's limited to what you do. Now, I did the same thing with Xbox Live Ultimate, too. I think I'm like two years in advance from all that big search I do. I just keep buying, get the credits from that. But it's nice, so now I can play on my fire stick. I can just bring a controller with me in the fire stick, and I can play in a hotel room if I need to. Yeah. I'm ideally gaming. Yeah, by the way, Steve, if you're wondering why I've got all that Star Trek memorabilia behind me, and-- -Star Trek day. -Star Trek day today. 58 years old today. Yeah. So it's getting up there in age. Hard to believe, though. 58 years. I remember watching the item berries in charge of the trust now. Oh, I have no idea. You mean in terms of the creative stuff, or literally the trust? Yeah. Well, don't get me started in discovery, because I'm not at the end of that. But Star Trek Strange New World is a winner. So I think it's the new fourth, third season? Whatever the next season is. Yeah, so it's the main reason I have Paramount+ is to watch the Star Trek stuff. OK, and the last thing-- I don't know if I put this in. People who have too many tabs open. Yeah, this was one that you inspired, Todd. And it got me thinking a lot about how people think about how technology should be used when there truly is no right or wrong way anymore. You know, one time you could argue, you could argue that having 100 open tabs was wrong for a long time today. Today, I allow-- hey, I don't like any more than one or two tabs. But still, I'm tolerant, OK? I have some tolerance for our brothers and sisters who like to use 8 million tabs. But it got me thinking about why do we have these little preferences anymore when we've outgrown their need? But yeah, around the table, who wants to take a principled stand on this, Todd? I think he would like to start. OK, I will start. Oh, my first, I didn't-- I did notice somebody had 75 tabs open in an iPhone Safari browser, and I was cast and shocked and disappointed. I looked it up later, and I found out that starting with IOS, what is it, 10, I think? And we're currently on-- what is it, 15? So starting with IOS 10, the number of browser tabs that you can use is unlimited. But I think someone on Reddit said that 500 is the practical limit. I'm not sure practical is the one where you were having 500 browser tabs open. But-- The limit of Medicare. I-- yeah, I don't even know what it does to your memory. I mean, that just sounds frightening to me. So along with that, why isn't there a closed-all tabs? There is. It's a closed-all tab button. Yeah, hold down on the tab button, and you'll get a context menu that includes closed-all tabs. Yeah. Tap and hold the tabs icon, which looks like two squares. Select-- Oh, OK. You have to be there. Yeah. So you can't do it from the tabs view. No. Why do you want to do it from there? Yeah. You don't want to do it after I realize, oh, my God, I look at all this crap. And you can actually move the whole tab group, too. So if you want to do another tab group, you can do tab groups, which I don't understand if you're-- you can just have a limit of tabs. Why would you need a tab? [INTERPOSING VOICES] So if you go to all tabs view at the bottom of your iOS Safari browser, and I have five tabs open on my browser, so I'm not like one tab only at a time. If you press the thing that says five tabs, you can copy all the links in once apparently. I've never known if I didn't know that. So that's pretty cool. If you want to taste it into a notebook or something. You know, John, I also believe that on a desktop computer or Mac, you should not have more than-- well, let me put it this way. If your whole screen on a desktop is filled with shortcuts, you are doing it wrong. [LAUGHTER] You're not getting anywhere faster in your mind if your whole screen is filled with them? Just use finder to start, and that's how you open up things. Yeah, I end up doing much the same thing. Yeah, but it is interesting. You know, an email is the one where I always find it interesting. People who are inboxed zero kind of people. Oh, I admire them. You know, 15,000 unread messages in their inbox. Just walk elite. Yeah, it is sort of amazing. It speaks to an interesting push and pull psychologically. You know, Apple's been telling us for a long time how to use our devices. Microsoft provides no guidance on how to use our devices when they really should. And Linux users just make up their own rules as they go. So it's sort of interesting that in tech, some people care a lot about these things and others don't seem to care as much. OK, so, OK, as John said, go around and watch out. I just think that you just need to have a manageable number of things, whether it's icons and a desktop shortcuts on a desktop or browser tabs or whatever. Because otherwise it's just a visual mess and I can't find anything anyway. So Steve going around the horn or at least I have a tab, what do you call store? I have lots of tabs open all the time. I have multiple windows and multiple tabs and I just jump back into that. Yeah, well, the things that happens like at work, my PC does reboots like multiple times a day and I don't know where I left off where I finished stuff. And so I know that's one of my things. Same thing on the phone too. I can be in and out of something and I'll go back to it. Like, oh, yeah, I was reading the article. It's great to have that availability back there. You know, and then I'll close them down after it's like, why do I have these tabs open? And you go through it once in a while. So I think it's what works for different people. I mean, it's way of my mind works. Yeah, yeah. It's a different workflow. I think I want to go back to it on my, at least on my phone or tablet, I usually store it to Google Keep where it's. I can just, you know, the tab that's there, just go back to it. It's like, usually it's like you're hemming on over buying something, you know, you like a cape on your shopping cart and you're like, do I really need this? OK, now you've got that giant display, right? How big is your, your work display that, you know, like you're using right now? 43 43. OK, that's a, that's pretty giant. Yeah. Is it filled with shortcuts? No, I don't have any trust. OK, OK. I use finder and start search. That's how I know about applications. Basically, live inside of like, like, so I'm saying, like, an outlook and SharePoint, you know, like teams, that's my work day. And I hope I just basically just have the browser windows. Basically, that's it. Do all my email clients through the browser. OK, swing, bazillion things are reasonable. I'm kind of reasonable. I, oh, you know, I'm one of those guys that still closes apps on my iPhone. And, you know, probably once a day, I'll go look at, oh, wonder how many tabs I have. Oh, close them all. But there is somebody in the house that is different than me. And, and I look at, you know, it's occasionally I pick up a iPhone to do something, help her out or add something that she needs or whatever. And it just bothers me. I look at the front and, you know, those little red things on the top of my app. Oh, yeah, yeah, every one of her apps has one of those. And they're all 99 and it just bothers the heck out of me. But saying, and I have learned not to say anything about it, which is why we've been having for 47 years. So as I recall other person in your home is also an IT expert. So she's got a degree also. So very different. But yeah, I'm, I'm pretty anal about that. So I tend to like to close. That's probably why the notifications bothered me so much. Before Steve's point, I was complaining about things like, you know, I got, I'm sitting here, a new notification that I got is Alexa has told you that it's a recycle day that was Friday. I've cleared the delay times and it's I've cleared it four times. Oh, my goodness. You know, and it just comes back. So you still haven't put out the cans. You know, no, they're there. Or, you know, the garage door closed Thursday. Yes, I know. I'll see when I'll begin Friday. But, you know, why, you know, why are you telling me this all over again? Again, and here we are. You know, the one that I've cleared. You can't, sorry, so we're going to have to fix that. Hopefully that will be in the update, right? Yeah, I hope that it will too. I hope, OK, John, you're the last one. I can't name him or icon. This is a psychologist. Remember that fairly orderly. Although there are certain folders in my folder directory structure that are just dumbball folders that I don't care too much about, but yeah, I'm in box zero. And I don't like seeing tasks on my list before they could be done. So I use start dates so I don't even see them until they can pop up on my to do list. Yeah, I like to have everything sort of nicely and orderly put aside. Although if the technology allows it and I can't just dump it in there, like my photos, for example, I, I don't really care to organize them other than it's just easy to do it by month when I copy them over at the end of the month out of cloud storage, but I'm OK with certain amount of just throw it all in one big pile. Like archive and Gmail has never bothered me. I was able to get rid of folders quite easily, but I don't want it in the inbox. I want it in the archive that can be overflowing. No big deal. So is your inbox separated by folders or you just have one big inbox and just search? I use a unified inbox, but it's, you know, like right now 99% of the time, it's completely empty. Well, wow, wow, I, I am in awe of you, John. I, I tried in when I changed jobs back in 2016. Um, I said, you know what, I, uh, I'm going to try inbox zero. That lasted for about a week. That's 10 minutes. Oh, you know, I, I just not cut out for it. I just, it's not how I do things. And the volume, if you don't care, then you don't care. I mean, this is purely your own product. It's the only way of thinking about it. Well, if you care, then change, like I cared, but not enough. OK, you complete this 100%. It's like, you know, when you watch somebody with a particularly amazing skill or talent, whether it's in sports or the arts or whatever. And you go, wow, it'd be great to do that. But you know, you cannot, you cannot do a, you know, 27 foot long jump. It's just not going to happen. And say, why try? That's kind of how I feel about inbox zero. I will say there are things I spent up, uh, about, uh, the last couple of months before I retired, I did spend a bunch of time making sure that my, uh, email was in an orderly set of logically named folders so that if people needed to search through my archives, um, and as well as my stuff in SharePoint, um, you know, it's easily findable, searchable. And, uh, it turns out that people did search my stuff because I remember, I, you know, I go visit the office every now and then to go say hi to folks when I'm downtown for, you know, like a doctor's visit or something. And, um, uh, somebody said to me, hey, can you answer this question about this document that was in this folder, if I understand. You say what version and what date? I have it all sort of here. So people are searching my stuff. You know, like a year and a half later, but that's fine. That's the way I did that. Um, anywho. So I, you know, it's, I guess it's a matter of choice. I, you know, and I know that it's people, people should be able to have their choices. I get it. Um, I just don't, you know, I can see why people get into fights now because I also think people shouldn't make wrong choices. But, uh, yeah, it's your choice, but you took the wrong one. You know, that's right. You know, just, I'm always, I mean, I'm not judging. All right. Uh, before we go off with final, I did want to mention one thing. It's not in the show knows, but one of the things that's been fascinating me of late is how, how manufacturers have been adding different kinds of, um, options on good, good old, you know, USB-C docs, which, you know, everybody should have one or 10, um, and a latest, the latest trend I've seen is people have been putting buttons on them and they do different things. So, um, the doc I have, I have an anchor right now. And what the, what the button on this one does is it shows you the status of the, of the power draw, the total power draw, or if you press it, it shows you, um, each, each of the ports, um, I'm drawing 14.39 watts right now. So that's kind of cool. And I have another one that does a blank on my screen, which is also kind of cool. And I just got this one in about a week or so ago, or it's called a deep pen, deep pen problem, G E E P I N. And it's got a button you can see right here. And if you, you've got this set up with an external monitor, this will blank the external monitor. So if you're doing a presentation, uh, you can keep your, does any, maybe it's a surprise, you know, you can make a big announcement or something. You don't want people to just see as they're shuffling around. You can blank your external monitor, uh, with this button and then show it, displayed by pressing it again, which I thought was kind of a cool little thing. The one thing it doesn't have, it says, doesn't have a label for its two USB C ports. And so only one of them is power distribution port. And if I ever loan this and I don't want to say, well, you know, just, it's, the PD port is one of them and go figure it out. Does it have like a picture of a computer or a phone next to it? Nothing. It's just unlabeled. So I know what you want to do is just the first one on, on this side, on my left, you're right. And so I just put a little label on top label maker. Yeah. Yeah. John has convinced me that label makers are the best things to slice bread. And so pretty good. I'm surprised that I had to convince you of that. It seems like something you would have enjoyed before, but well, you know, I didn't have a Bluetooth label maker that I bought a while back, but then, which I think this is it, but then you showed me the one that prints like big labels, like, yeah. Um, and so, you know, multi-line labels. And so I got, I got a couple of those now. Yeah. Those are great. It's just a critical machine. You can just create your own wraps without a vinyl on your devices. You don't D brand. So before we were head out the, uh, the podcast door, uh, last minute thoughts, we'll start with Steve since you got here. I know you had some activities this, today, this morning. Yeah. Anything you're thinking about? I don't know. So I'm going to see what, what shakes out of the Apple thing. And then Amazon too has their big release coming up in September, usually as well, too. So we'll see what happens with that. But I don't know. I would like to see like maybe an iPad mini updates, which is very nice. Maybe the AirPods Max, if they can like, maybe include like an audio jack. So you can actually plug it in and you need to. I did read something about the AirPods Max, maybe USB. Oh, yeah, USB, oh, I mean, isn't it? That's pretty weird. Yes. Um, yeah, so that the root, the, um, what's his name? Uh, I can't remember his name now. It starts with a G. But anyway, Gurman, Gurman is saying that the M four max iPad mini is probably October. I don't know about 11 or two. Uh, I thought the iPad 11 was released. No, the airy. Oh, oh, I know what you mean. I would think, but the air nevermind. So yeah, it's a no iPad's tomorrow, basically is what Gurman is saying. And he's pretty spot on usually. Yeah. So of all the, of all the rumor people, uh, he's the one that I would most likely believe. Just the OS of these, I think be good too, though. I mean, yeah, Apple intelligence. We'll see. Yeah. Hopefully we're free. I hope they don't make us pay 10 bucks a month more. They got to make some money off. This is going to be a service. Well, I think if you have an Apple one subscription is John and I do, you should just be included. Yeah, it makes sense. Yeah. Cause Apple one is not cheap. It's like 40 bucks a month, I think. Yeah, about that. No. Okay, Swen, any last thought? No, not really. Um, I'm looking forward to the event tomorrow, uh, unfortunately at work. So I got to make sure I don't listen to before I get home and, you know, stream it on my Apple TV. Also be a new Apple TV. No, you know, I don't care if the current ones were fine. Yeah. I am looking forward to the ability to decide which of my Apple things is my Apple home hub. So that doesn't pick the one Apple TV to life. I in the top corner of the house, but, you know, little things. Yeah. John, any last thoughts? No, I'm just glad that it's on a Monday this year because it works better in my schedule. I can actually probably watch or listen to most of it given what I have in my schedule, but I do think some new things are in my horizon. And if not, I'll have a lot to talk about why I don't want to buy new things next week. So yeah. Did you, did you ever keep your ultra or was that if you resolved or? Uh, yeah, I have the ultra too. And I'm very happy with it. So, but then again, you know, having a pen might be interesting to have as a secondary watch. So who knows? I think I don't think I would upgrade to an ultra three. It would have to be a really amazing upgrade to go from an ultra to an ultra three. It will have AI. I don't know if I need my watch thinking too much along the way. I need my watch doing more just things like I wanted to do, like, you know, letting me program a workout from somewhere other than a two inch screen. That would be kind of nice. But, you know, okay, Doki then, uh, things are, oh, my, we ran pretty long. But you're stuck by me. Uh, there, the only thing I'm hoping is that the Apple Watch 10 is affordable. Um, so I can replace my six, which, you know, we should still work in fine, except the batteries a little on the tooth. So I have the always on display off, uh, you know, it's always off display. Um, but I, I've got a 15 pro max. I don't need a new iPhone. Um, I'm waiting for it. I have the AirPods Pro first gen. So I'm not sure I'm interested in the AirPods amateur. Yeah. And they keep doing pushing out updates to it too. So it's making it the battery life again. That's the only thing that's like, yeah, well, no, I have like a pro, the first gen pro is it got a little, um, scratchy sounds in it, but I kind of wipe the microphone and the thing that seemed to resolve some of it. There was a, there was a recall to replace those for that issue. Yeah, that was a while back, right? But stop it. Wipe the little microphone on it and it seems to take care of the problem. So aside from that, um, I'm waiting for Android OS 15 to emerge from hiding. Sometimes soon, I hope I've got, uh, what devices will get it though? Um, well, I've got pixels. I've got a pixel tablet and a pixel 7a. So I'm pretty sure they'll get it. And I've got a Android, uh, like a low price up $200 Android OS 14 tablet coming in for review that I'm really, I really want to see how this low end thing looks. And it comes at a keyboard and a case and everything from the 200. So it's really interesting and a stylus. Um, and so I'm hoping it's upgraded to the 15 in which case boy, that's going to be hard to beat for $200. Um, if it's fast enough, but we'll see. I have one other really low end Android OS device that is stuck on OS 12, which is kind of useless and pretty slow. Um, those are the things I'm looking forward to. And I was just, uh, telling Swen and John before he joined it, I'm really tempted to buy the DJI, um, Neil. That's a new one. Yeah. But I don't think you can survive the trade wins here. It also doesn't have object avoidance either. So yes, I didn't want her to use. Yeah. Um, I would have been cool to walk with you all those kind of windy day day. It doesn't, it does. Yeah, it does have that follow mode where they, yeah, but I'm not sure what it survived in the wind. Even though we're way out and open, there's really nothing to collide with. It would have been cool on top of the state capital too. Yeah, could have been sent it out if you could have gone out above the roof through the Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that would have been kind of fun. Yeah. It's cheap though, though. Security guys blew it out of the sky. So they're pretty nice guys. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We have to go through security to get, get into the building. It was, it was fine. Um, that's about it. Thanks for staying long, everybody. I know, John, you're, this is kind of late for you. So thank you, everybody. And we'll talk to you next, and maybe next week, if I can gather the group and a few other friends together, we'll go around the horn and see what everybody thinks. So movies, podcasts, 527, but we're really getting up there. We'll talk to you next time.
