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This is going to be a big crowd and it's going to be insane. We've got a great show tonight. We're going to be talking about a lot of legal doings in the last 48 hours with our good friend, Dina Doll, one of my favorite legal analysts who still speaks to me. We will be joined by TV's Frank of Mystery Science Theater, Frank Conif. Lookout Phoenix, Southern California, notched 100 degree temperatures in the middle of the night as this extreme heat wave is keeping 31 million folks under health warnings. We also learned the Treasury Department through the IRS has collected $1.3 billion in unpaid taxes from wealthy tax cheats. That's just the beginning. And the CDC has confirmed the first case of H5N1 bird flu in Missouri. The twist here is that the infected person had no contract with poultry farms, chickens or farm workers. And as you may have heard, the legendary Brazilian-born pianist and composer and arranger Sergio Mendez has left us. 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And it's a combination of the media talking all about how Kamala Harris is leaving the left and moving to the center, which we'll be talking about a lot in the next few months. But it's also about how Donald Trump has left the right and gone to an insane asylum. His sentencing in the Manhattan hush money case is no longer going to take place next week. It's no longer going to happen before the presidential election. New York judge Juan Varshan has ruled to be as impartial as possible. You've got to bend over backwards to help Donald Trump. And now privilege boy will be sentenced on November 26th, two days before Thanksgiving. When he may be the president elect or or or most likely won't be most likely. Now this is a day after we saw Donald Trump speaking at the New York economic club, really giving the worst answer we've seen him give all year about how he would address the high cost of childcare. If he was reelected, you saw this one as much as childcare is talked about as big expansive as it's relatively speaking, that very expensive. And he said more or less, we'll we'll pay for it by tariffs, which is makes no sense. And this is a couple days after he was talking to a hack bottom theater, Mark Levin, where he openly admitted he's interfering in the 2020 election and he admitted he lost. He admitted he lost the 2020 election. He admitted all those clowns are in jail right now for a lie. He admitted Ashley Baba died stupidly for a lie. And then of course, two nights ago, we heard that the Trump campaign put out a memo for no one to leak anything to the media. And the memo was immediately leaked to the media. And then yesterday, we found out all the stuages of tenant media were paid $10 million by Russia to spread propaganda that Russia wanted Russian talking points amidst their right wing propaganda and to further divide a deeply wounded nation. But so today Donald Trump got some good news, right? Right. It seemed like he got some really good news. In fact, he could milk this thing all day long and win the news cycle. The judge in Trump's hush money case, who Trump has abused and smeared and slandered so many times as to late his sentencing until after the election, quote, to avoid any appearance, however unwarranted end quote of a political bias. This is the hush money trial where Trump was guilty of 34 counts of business fraud and he announced he's going to hold off. Trump will face no consequences for his crimes before the people vote. The people will not get to know the verdict when they go to vote. This is a ruling in favor of Trump. There's no other way to spin it, folks. He changed the date of the sentencing to help Donald Trump. So the American people wouldn't be biased by his criminal sentencing for a guilty verdict. Now a lot of folks on the left and moderates and liberals and progressives and Democrats and anti evil people are very upset about this. I we're going to talk about this with Dina doll on the show and it might still be good. I mean, it might still be good. Now he can't campaign on the victimhood of his sentencing for the next two months. Now the Supreme Court can't do anything on rapid appeal before November 5th to get him out of trouble. Now who knows what he could be sentenced to after he's lost the presidential race. So he should be taking a merch on victory lap, but you know, I mean, think about it. It was it was a good news day for him, but he can't do it. No, instead he was in New York in a different courtroom for a court case that he never bothered to show up for when the trial was happening, the Eugene Carroll sex abuse defamation case where he's guilty. Find 5 million defamed or more find what 80 million over that. I can't even keep track of how many millions he owes to whom anymore folks. It's a reason why people are really dumb to donate to save America back. He more or less did the exact same behavior. He defamed her again. He defamed other women who have accused him. He defamed his own lawyers and it's beautiful. Here is Donald Trump to theming Eugene when he should be taking a merch on victory lap. I never met the woman other than this picture, which could have been AI generated. I don't know. Oh, but it's fine. Nice picture with her, her husband and lots of other people are on the lines of celebrity line, but never met her, never touched her, never had anything to do with her. The other thing is I was very famous then. If I would have walked into Bergdorf Goodman, the department store that she said, everybody would have said, oh, there's Trump and it would have been at that time, one page six. Page six was the equivalent of today's internet. Oh, is that what it was? That was Donald Trump claiming the photograph we've all seen of him and Eugene Carroll together when he was shown it in his deposition and thought it was his wife, Marla Maples. Even though he thought it was his wife and it was E.J., now he's claiming the photo could have been AI generated. That's how it's going in case you're wondering. Here's Donald Trump to theming Eugene when he should be taking the merch on victory lap. She made up a story and fabricated 100% that I attacked her at Bergdorf Goodman. It's very interesting. I don't think they were allowed to use this either. Their favorite show is Law & Order and there's an almost exact story, as her story, in Law & Order about being attacked in the dressing room of a department, so I don't know if they use the name of the store, but that's her favorite show, Law & Order. She said that and anyway, this evolved into a defamation case against me because I disputed her words because I told the truth. We were called. I was in the White House and I said no, it never happened. I didn't even know what they were talking about. This was, I think I was in the Oval Office, sir. Anyway, if this goes on and on and on like a bad marriage, at one point, he feels the need to point out that Eugene's husband back then was black. He feels the need to bring that up. Anyone after other women, he knocked Jessica Leeds who claimed he molested her on a flight in the late 70s. Here's the best part about it. This is a very long clip. We've cut it down to just a short little snippet here. But if you listen to this clip long enough, you'll hear the sound of Republican donors running from the room in horror. This is Donald Trump telling reporters how disappointed he is in his legal team. I wish you could see the image because his legal team, as he says this, is standing right behind him. I'm disappointed in my legal talent, I'll be honest with you. They're good. They're good people. They're talented people. They had to play at the trial, they didn't mention the dress. The Monica Lewinsky type dress was a big part of the trial, big, big part of the trial. I said, "Why didn't you mention that?" I heard there was a dress involved. It's like they're competing to see who can drive away women or educated people or young people or non-white people the fastest. We just heard the NBC news stay tuned, Gen Z poll with SurveyMonkey that shows half of Gen Z voters who say they're going to vote, say they'll vote for Vice President Harris in November half of the young people. According to the real clear opinion research poll, Kamala Harris leads Donald Trump among Catholic voters. By seven points among American Catholics, Goldman Sachs came out this week and said that a Trump victory would result in a 0.5% point drag on GDP in the second half of next year. Nomura economists estimate Trump's tariffs would increase inflation by 0.75 percentage points next year. It's not going well for him. And then today, one day after proclaiming her personal endorsement for Kamala Harris, former Congresswoman Liz Cheney told an Austin, Texas crowd, she is not the only Cheney voting for Vice President Harris. Dick Cheney, your father, a beloved figure among Democrats for many, many years. Do you, if you know who he will be supporting or who he'll be voting for, do you care to share with us who he might be voting for? Dick Cheney will be voting for Kamala Harris. Right. We did it Joe. There's the story of the year story of the year. How shocked were you or were you shocked when you heard this? There's a lot to unpack. The most important thing to remember is Dick Cheney is still evil. Dick Cheney still deserves to spend the rest of his life in jail. There's up to a million people dead because Dick Cheney planned a war we didn't need. I made the money go to his own companies and no big contracts. You remember you were, you were there. Dick Cheney is voting for Kamala Harris. How are they going to call her a communist? How are they going to say she hates the troops? How are they going to call her a leftist socialist when the most famous right-wing war criminal living, rest in peace Kissinger, is voting for her? This is going to outrage liberals, but this is how she's going to get elected. This is what we call a permission structure. The very fact that Dick Cheney is voting for Vice President Harris, even if he doesn't do a single ad, Liz would not have said that if Dick wasn't voting that way and didn't give her permission. So many Republican men will now feel permission to vote Vice President Harris or not vote for Trump. So many conservative seniors, they don't care the Chinese a monster. He represents politics how it used to be. All the bad, but this is why Kamala Harris had a very good week and keep this in mind when you hear the mainstream media talk about how she's running away from liberalism. That's to be expected. Yes, she no longer supports Medicare for all or mandatory gun buyback programs. She supported those in the 2020 primary. She no longer wants to ban fracking. She's now calling for people making over a million to only pay a 28% capital gain stacks. Biden wanted 40%. She ran last time saying last extra should be banned. Now that's not her position anymore. The mainstream media and the right wing is now going to focus on her flip flops. They always do this. The folks she's getting elected, she's doing this to get elected and one of the ways Democrats get elected is showing the big vague white middle America that you are not too far on the left. Barack Obama was pro gay marriage in the nineties then against it as a candidate before endorsing it the second term. This is the Clinton challenge. She's going to go to the center to get elected to get the power. The challenge is going to be is she going to be bullied into staying there or will she be able to be more progressive. It's why voting for a Democrat comes in two parts folks first parts on election day get them in office. The second part. You have to hold their feet to the fire every day. You can't let these Democrats slide into neoliberal corporate incrementalist bullshit. So I get it. I'm not angry. But a lot of folks are going to be very angry. A lot of our left friends are going to be very angry there for the next two months. But she's trying to beat Trump Joe Biden's the only candidate I can think of who became more liberal as a candidate and it worked it helped him get elected. She's becoming less liberal as a candidate which will probably work. Would she be less liberal as a president? No one's going to get to say she's too liberal now for the next two months. How can you call her a communist and have the support of the military industrialist Darth Vader capitalist? This is what's at stake at the moment get her in office and then hold her feet to the fire. Good will come from this. Dick Cheney did a good thing. He still deserves to spend the rest of his life in jail, but but Trump's panicking because Trump is flip-flopping desperately. I mean, look at male voting. He was against it. Now he's for it. Now we're not sure project twenty twenty five. He still supports everything in it, but says he's against it. He says Biden's a criminal mastermind and vital Biden is a senile fool with dementia that where does Trump stand on weed legalization? Where does Trump stand on abortion? What is his actual opinion? Should it be illegal or not in the state of Florida? Where's his stance on IVF? I mean, now it's a very expensive procedure. He's saying he's going to fund it with no details on how he's going to do it, even though he has supported so many measures to block access to reproductive care for American women. And let's not forget baby man before he hit the break joining in helping make sure that Kamala Harris runs to the center and gets elected J.D. Vance is going to join Tucker Carlson at an appearance after Tucker had a Nazi apologist on his show. And then to prove he's brilliant, he pulled to Carrie Lake and went to Phoenix, Arizona today and told the crowd he doesn't care what the McCain family thinks their father would do in this election. Give a listen to J.D. Vance alienating. Oh, the majority of Republican seniors in a swing state he has to win. Look, I think, I mean, look, who cares what somebody's family thinks about a presidential race? I care about what these people care about the president of the election, I really couldn't. I mean, look, John McCain has been, what John McCain died, what, what, five, six, seven years ago. And the media is turning into a story what John McCain's family says about Donald Trump. I don't know if anybody noticed, but pretty much every single member of Tim Walz's family came out and endorsed Donald Trump. Is that a bigger story than what John McCain's son said? I think so. For the record, every single member Tim Walz's family did not come out for Donald Trump. Some second cousins, they don't know, came. His brother did. And then Tim Walz's mother said everyone in that photo of Walz is for Trump were all second cousins who are extreme conservative Catholics and they barely know them. They also misspelled the word Walz's on their Walz's for Trump shirts. They didn't know how to use apostrophes, which is also a pretty good indicator that someone's voting for Trump. Finally, before we go, the Harris campaign this morning announced they brought in $361 million in August. Harris raised $230 million more than Donald Trump for the month. And it's the best month Democrats have passed since the start of this election campaign. She has $110 million more in cash on hand now than Donald Trump. I know Vladimir Putin hasn't laundered money through truth social stock yet, but campaigns usually raise more each month before an election. But Donald Trump got $130 million in August, less than he got in July, $139 million. And he got $130 million in August, but August 2020, he brought in $210 million. The donors are running away and hiding from Trump like horrified teenage beauty pageants backstage in a dressing room of a Donald Trump special. We got to take a quick break. We'll be right back with Dina Doll to talk about all the legal issues. This is SiriusXM Progress. Achieving a gorgeous grin from home isn't a total mystery with bike clear aligners. Just don't be surprised if all of your sleuthing friends start asking. What's your secret? Begin by ordering your at-home impression kit today for only $14.95. Bike clear aligners are doctor-directed and delivered to your door. Treatment costs thousands less than braces, plus they offer flexible financing, accept eligible insurance, and you can pay with your HSA FSA. Get 80% off your impression kit when you use code "wondery" at bite.com. That's BYTE.com. 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Follow her on TikTok and X and Instagram to ask all of your burning legal questions at Ask Dina Dal. She is unspeakably brilliant and I'm here to bring balance. Dina, welcome back to SiriusXM. It is so great getting a chance to talk to you again. Thanks for having me. Thank you. There's so much to unpack here. I do want to talk to you about what we're witnessing with the shooter's father in the state of Georgia. First, the big news that's upsetting way too many people and making way too many people happy, Judge Mershan in the Hush Money case in New York, guilty on 34 felonies, announced he was delaying his sentence signature after the election to avoid any appearance of political motivations. What were your first thoughts when you heard this? Were you surprised? Not too surprised. In part because the defense had asked for a post-payment for that reason, saying it's too close to the election, this is election interference. And the DA didn't really oppose that motion. They said, Judge, it's up to you. We trust your judgment. I mean, if you say that to a judge, the likelihood of the judge going with what the defense asks is a lot higher. I do think that this, if just, I think this allows the judge to give him a jail sentence in a way that he might not have done, as he said, 42 days before the election. Like, does he really want to be that judge who's sentencing somebody to jail who's running for president? But so I think whether or not Trump goes to jail is on the ballot in November. I think that's very clear because if he loses the likelihood of him going to jail now that it's after the election is much higher than if this sentencing had been in September. I've been saying for quite a while, we're voting on whether he's going to the White House or the big house. And if a vote for Kamala Harris means a vote for three reality show courtroom dramas during Donald Trump next year, how likely do you think it would be? Even if he loses, in light of all of the abuse he hurled at this judge and the judge's staff and the judge's family, it's still very rare that they would sentence a 78-year-old first time felon to prison for these particular crimes, isn't it? Yes. And in fact, just as, just security, which I don't know if you've heard of them at all, but they've been doing a lot of great journalism around this, comes through exactly these charges in a sentencing and 10 to 30% of people get sent, get some sort of prison sentence. So it is, these types of charges normally do not get a jail sentence to begin with. And then you have the first-time offender, as you mentioned. But on the other hand, you have the fact that he committed fraud, but also did it for the reason of trying to sway an election, which is a very serious reason and probably not as serious of a reason that other people may have gone to jail. The other thing that's very important is that a sentencing hearing, whether or not a defendant takes responsibility for their actions and expresses remorse. That is a key part of sentencing. So important. You're right. We know Donald Trump isn't going to do that. And the point of sentencing is yes, is to deter both that person and the public. So if you have somebody who's been convicted, say, hey, I'm willing to do that again, you're going to give them a harsher sentence. So that cuts against, that cuts toward giving him a jail time. Also we can't forget that he violated the gag order a bunch of times. He might just get a couple of days in jail for that alone. I mean, our friend Glenn Kirschner said one step up, two steps back, but here's the consequence. Once Trump is no longer a candidate for office and has lost the election, it'll make it a million times easier for Mershan to sentence him to prison. I mean, you're exactly right. And there's plenty of reasons. It does this, Dina, does this take the politics out of it? I mean, now Trump can't say that he's been sentenced to embarrass him, but to interfere with this election. Yes, it absolutely does unless if he wins. And then if he wins, Justice Mershan is going to be sentencing somebody who's going to the White House, which is like a worst case scenario for him. So that's really why it is truly on the ballot because if he were to win, there's not going to be any jail sentence at all. We can't. There's no reason to discuss it at that point. One thing that a lot of our anguished friends need to think about, I think, and I wanted to get your thoughts on this because a lot of a lot of our friends and a lot of social media folks, I respect, are very upset about this two tiers of justice or as Dan Savage pointed out, three tiers of justice, one for the rich, a third one for the poor and one for this orange motherfucker and the orange motherfucker alone. But doesn't putting it off till after the election means that there's no way the Supreme Court could get their hands on this verdict in any way before the election happens. I was a bit terrified that mid-September would give the happy six enough time to undo anything. So Donald Trump could declare he was exonerated before election day. Am I being too optimistic and thinking that this is sort of backed the rabid Trump Supreme Court into a corner? You know, I think that the delay in sentencing and even the justice says it, he's like, we give Germans for sentencing with defendants before. So I know it feels like he's getting special treatment here, but sometimes our justice system doesn't work very quickly and it was delayed because of the Supreme Court hearing. I mean, that's still actually, it's like a parallel track. Him trying to overturn this conviction because of the Supreme Court immunity decision is being heard by Justice Mershan on September 16th. Like that's still moving forward kind of separately from the sentencing. So to your question of like, does this tie the Supreme Court's hands, I don't think the Supreme Court will work that quickly in this case, even with the September 16th hearing, they do. I mean, we have a surprise. They find a way sometimes when it comes to this guy, you know, they found a way with immunity. Yeah. Can I ask you about Donald Trump's other appearance in court today? He was in front of an appellate court appealing the first verdict against him this year, the one where he didn't even bother to attend the trial, the one where the $5 million verdict for sexual assault, he so disrespected it, he got slapped with so many more millions of dollars in fines, the aging carol defamation case. What did you make of his appearance today? And why is he, how is he trying to overturn it? Is he trying to use presidential immunity now on this? I know. And the takeaway from that was him blaming his lawyers afterwards, the ultimate narcissist already, as you said, it was his second time, the first time he was, you know, found liable for five months, but he couldn't stop defaming her. So it was more, you know, he's got a little bit of an uphill battle, you know, with this appellate hearing, but, you know, he's going to try and to this point, it's really about talking to his supporters, I think, than anything, you know, when he's talking outside these press conferences. Yeah. I think you're right as well. It's a campaign event, but it takes a lot to make me feel empathy for Alina Haba, and I almost had it today. He was seemingly putting them all down. Now we also got, this came only a day after a different judge, Judge Schutkin, who I like more and more, she's presiding over the most important criminal case in the history of this country, Donald Trump's federal trial for overturning the 2020 election. What were her decisions this week? Yes, she made some big decisions, and it was a breath of fresh air because one of the things that Trump's lawyers wanted her to do was take a look at removing Jack Smith because they found success with Judge Cannon down a Mar-a-Lago dismissing the case outright, and she put them in their place, you know, a dicta, which is just a language that a judge uses that has nothing to do with the holding of the case is basically what Justice Thomas did. And so she just brushed that aside, and it was, it was, it was nice to hear that handled correctly. But what she did is she agreed with Jack Smith that the immunity decision should go first. Is he immune from prosecution? Which is how the law is, but she's actually following the law, because if you're immune, then you shouldn't be wasting your time and energy going down this road. Sure, yeah. Yeah. So, so how that's going to start for, but Trump's lawyers didn't want that. They wanted to do all these other emotions first because they don't want the evidence coming out that's going to come out. So on September 26, Jack Smith is going to file a motion. And he's going to have to support his, you know, the charges against Trump and show all the evidence for why Trump is not immune from prosecution. So that is going to be a super interesting brief. There's going to be a lot of really incriminating evidence in that, and it's coming out right during election season, and if Trump tries to say election interference, election interference, it was his own delays that may just go there. So, so yes, obviously that's not going to trial before the November election, but that brief is going to be pretty powerful, as you say, and the most important election interference case against him. Dina, were you surprised at all that Jack Smith came out and refiled the four charges with a brand new grand jury that no one even knew he had in panel to get around the language in the immunity ruling to me. This is the biggest story of the last month that got forgotten after one new cycle. It was such a powerful move when he told, you know, Judge Jack and said, can you, everybody, I want everybody in my court on like August 15th, it wasn't exactly that day, but it was wrong there. And he said, oh, no, we need some more time. And it was like, what, you know, why does he need more time? What's going on here? Well, sure enough, you know, he needed more time because he panels a whole brand new grand jury, made sure they didn't hear evidence that the Supreme Court said, in particular, the conversations with Jeffrey Clark with Chief Justice Robert said was absolutely immune. So they didn't hear that anymore, and he changed the indictment to conform with the Supreme Court. So wow, that was impressive. Amazing. Well, Trump and his lawyers didn't think they had a formidable adversary before that. I think they do now. Do you think, Dina, there's any hope that we will somehow see the classified documents trial be tried before a jury, even with a different judge? Yeah. So right now, actually, crew, the citizens for responsibility and ethics in Washington files an amicus brief in the 11th Circuit, and they said, if 11th Circuit, you overturn Judge Cannon's decision to dismiss the case based on the appointment of Jack Smith, you should also remove her and they lay out a very strong and compelling reason why that's the case. And so I think the 11th Circuit will overturn her. Does the Supreme Court take that? Was Justice Thomas truly acting on his own, or was that a preview? That is a bigger question. But let's say the 11th Circuit overturns her and the Supreme Court doesn't take the case. I think the possibility of her getting removed is very high because that will be the third time. If the overturner, that will be the third time the 11th Circuit has overturned her in a pro-defense decision that she's made that's really outside the balance of law. Dina, it occurs to me that if all this happens next year and Donald Trump has this very legally interesting year, he's not going to have a gigantic fundraising apparatus getting non-millionaires to send him legal bills. I mean, he's been running this campaign, skimming off the RNC, and pretty much funneling money from the Save America pack to his defense attorneys. As of next year, he pays for all these cases on his own, doesn't he? That's actually a really good point. Is he going to run for Governor of Florida to keep it going? I don't know. Is this going to be expensive? We didn't even talk about Georgia. I mean, the Georgia Fawnee Willis hearing is set for December. I think that she's going to remain on the case. That's going to move forward. It's... Yeah, if he doesn't win the White House, he is going to have a ton of legal expenses. That is for sure. Let me bring up to Georgia since you brought it up first because we have been looking at the news unfold after this horrific mass shooting and the father of the 14-year-old student arrested with this mass killing of four people and nine others injured was arrested yesterday. Colin Gray is charged with second-degree murder and involuntary manslaughter. The Georgia Bureau investigation said it was directly connected with the actions of his son and allowing him to possess a weapon. Can you walk us through this a bit? I appreciate the counts. Four counts in voluntary manslaughter, two counts of second-degree murder, eight counts of cruelty to children. He bought the AR-15 for his son months after authorities were alerted to the threats his son had made and he told the FBI his son didn't have access to guns. And then he bought him one. We're learning more and more about this child's very sad home life, but I'm wondering, what do you make of all this? How historic is this and is he convictable in a state with lax gun laws like Georgia? I know. It is so tragic and as somebody who's horrified that this keeps happening, I am glad that they charged him and charged him so swiftly because if the gun laws aren't going to protect people, this is what prosecutors are supposed to be doing. And the key word that you said there was after he bought the gun after the police notified him that he'd been talking about school shootings. The fact is is the Oxford High School parents were sentenced to 10 years. They were convicted for involuntary manslaughter. So a jury was able to find them guilty. It was a little bit of a test case. That was the first time a high school student. And in that case, they also had warnings, multiple warnings and ignored them. And so here in this situation with Georgia, it's slightly different because as you said, he has involuntary manslaughter and then also murder charges. He has second degree murder charges. It's a murder charge that it's second degree. It's not intentional murder. I mean, they can't prove obviously that the father of course murder the kids. It's that you you committed the crime of cruelty to children. And during that crime, you they died. The children died. It's that type of second degree murder charge. So the involuntary manslaughter charge has to do more with like the negligence. Right. It's a child. I mean, this is a 14 year old child. He bought a lethal weapon for. But that's legal in Georgia, legal in Georgia and no laws in Georgia that a gun like that has to be secured in a home in any way. I mean, I with you, I'm thrilled that he has been indicted for this, but the more I've read about Ryan Kemp and the lax gun laws in Georgia, I'm wondering how interesting this man's defense might be. Well, it's interesting. So the negligence charge, you can take an lawful act unlawfully. I got you. The lawful act with him, as you said, buying the rifle is legal, but the unlawful way of doing it is doing it, knowing that he wanted to commit school shootings. And you gave him the gun and then probably didn't properly secure the gun. Even though that's technically not a law, they don't have a storage law there, but there are, you know, still, if you know that there's a suspicion that he's going to be school shooting and then you allow him to access of it, that's enough for negligence, really. And then the second degree murder with cruelty to children is maybe a more creative approach, but certainly there's cruelty to children. He has eight counts of cruelty to children that he's charged with. So that's including children that didn't die that day. I can't think of anything more cruel than being shot at. So I think there is a, a little by the tree. Dina, I'm so sorry you're breaking up a little bit. My apologies. Can you hear me? We just lost you. Chris, do we, have we lost Dina? Or is he just rebuffering? Okay. We'll get her back in a second. Okay. I'm so sorry. Was that me? I'll wait up your brilliance and charisma through off the entire internet. Your brilliant analysis caused your own Wi-Fi to read buffer. It's totally cool. It happens all the time. It's like I'm so bad. So I'm fascinated, Dina, in our final moments how this might, I'm fascinated by how this might play out because I'm sure in a state like Georgia, plenty of folks have given guns like AR 15s to kids as Christmas gifts in the past. And I'm excited to see where this trial goes because it could be very influential on how we behave as people and maybe the judicial branch will do what the legislative branch hasn't done to make people behave a bit better and keep us safe. Do you have any idea of where this might go? I mean, absolutely. And I think that's the thing is this is a child. We have children killing children and there are adults in their lives that can protect the children that's doing the shooting and the children that's being shot at. And they have, there is a responsibility there. I don't know if you saw the photo of the 14 year old sitting next to his lawyer in court and it was so sad. He could barely make it on top of the, you know, his head barely reached it. We are failing our children in this country. And if these prosecutions can help move the needle, it absolutely needs to be done. The fact that the judge said your sentence is either the death penalty or life in prison and had to come back and be like, Oh, no, that's right. We can't do life in death penalty because the Supreme Court says, if you're under 18, you can't do death penalty. We are failing our children. Adults failed this child and they, he should be held accountable for it. Yes. Absolutely. Dina, it's such a pleasure to have you with us. Thank you for making me feel so much smarter about all of these stories. What is the best way for our listeners to follow you and keep up with all of your work because you're doing so much all over the place? You can follow me and ask Dina doll across all platforms. And I put out every Friday a Trump legal update because yes, if you can believe that there is that much legal news on the guy running for president that I have to put out a weekly update. All right. And I thank you for it. I light a candle every night that will still see a classified documents trial. I pray to the classified documents, fairy, Dina, thank you so much for joining us. We have to hit a very quick break right now. We'll be right back in just a second with your calls at 866-997-4748. This is progress after dark live from Portland. What makes a life a good one? Is it the adventure you have or the friends you find along the way? Maybe it's pursuing your passion while striving to protect, defend and save what you believe in every single day. So what makes a life a good one? In the Coast Guard, we think it's all of the above and more. You'll have to find out for yourself. Visit go coast guard dot com to learn more. We are back. Let's go to the phones before we get joined by TV's Frank Walter in the great state of Florida calling on line 5. Walter, thank you so much for waiting on hold. Welcome. You're on SiriusXM. Hello. Hello. Hi. How are you doing? How are you? Welcome. I'm wonderful. Okay. Oh, John, boy. I just wanted to get on air. I'm taking you. I don't want to waste you in half. Oh, it's a box. It's Rob the Rob the Rob the antagonist racist is back. Hi, Rob. How are you doing? Hi, John. Hi, Rob. Hang on a second. Like Rob, I have this belief that you and I can do this without it getting nasty. Do you have this belief too? Do you have this belief that we can have a nice conversation or are you calling here looking to fight or hurt people? Never. I don't want to hurt anybody. I just want to stand out for freedom. What is right? Truth. Not lies. You're seems like you're being a bit sarcastic and smug about a mass shooting that killed four people. John, I'm not being smug or nasty, but free. What is the point? What is the point? Yeah, I agree. I'm a big fan of freedom. What is the point you're calling to make, my friend? I'm calling to make the point that what was the other guy a candle could make yesterday. Yes. Go ahead. We should own weapons that kill lots of people. Okay. Good for you. Good. Tactical nuclear weapons. Tactical nukes. We're allowed to own cannons. Right. Grenade launchers. You should look gang members. Absolutely. Right. What about white phosphorous? Yeah. What? Antaracts. Civilians. Should civilians own anthrax? Well, wait a second. Why not? You're ridiculous. No, I'm not. You're wait. Why is white phosphorous acceptable but not anthrax? For civilians. That doesn't qualify as an arm, you know, kind of like what the second amendment says. Are you eating? It sounds like he's eating. Are you eating? You're out. All right. Yeah. Okay. So, civilians should be allowed to own any kind of military hardware they want, right? And including 14-year-old boys? No, I hung up on them. I don't tolerate. You hung up on them. I don't really mind you because it's like he calls, look, I get it. Rob's lonely and he likes attention and he does the, Rob, listen, when you call back, you don't have to use made-up names. I'll take you. I don't hate you, man. I don't hate you. But you're calling up here to gloat and to be smug. And these bodies aren't even cold yet. I really understand that being a good person is not your priority, but, dude, it's not good radio. Let me go to Kurt in California on line six. Kurt, thank you. Welcome. You're on SiriusXM. Kurt dropped is now Marie. Would you want to talk to Marie? I'd love to talk to Marie. Finally. Oh, well, Marie's just like Rob, the racist from Orlando. Hey, Marie. What's on your mind? Welcome. The farthest from it. By the way, I want to say Rob is the only person, Rob, Rob, the guy who just called. He's the only, and I'll give him credit for this. He's the only caller who's ever actually said the end word on this show. And I will always give him credit for being real and not pretending to be something he's not. Go ahead, Marie. He met his racist flake. Free flat spot. I wish more of them did it. It's boring. And when they hide it, I like to know exactly where you stand morally. The front. So I will always respect Rob for that. What's on your mind, Counselor? By the way, quick side note, Waters of March by Sergio Mendez, my editor of his. How do you feel about lyrics to that? Do you like that song with lyrics or without lyrics? Candidly, I like it without lyrics because lyrics don't actually make sense to me. Well, the lyrics are kind of an issue. I had this debate with John Pizzarelli, who released a great version of it. I mean, I know the Portuguese lyrics where it sounds incredibly and then you hear the actual lyrics translated and it's just random little memories of summer and it's nonsense. But either way, like it's just a magical piece of music. Yes. Yes. So I called about Trump dissing his his attorneys today. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Dumbest strategy ever. Well, is it? I don't know about that. Let me play you a clip right now, if I may, because Alina Haba, I have this theory that Donald Trump's lawyers don't mind getting insulted by him because I have this theory. They're all about the billable hours and they know that this tap's not going to dry up at least before election day. Here is Alina Haba, today also, after being insulted, emphatically demanding that you vote for Donald Trump. You must vote Donald Trump back in because as an attorney, as a woman, as a mother, our future of this country depends on it and we need to stop this from happening. The DOJ is supposed to help our country and protect us, not attack us because you cannot win in the polls. Thank you. I'm not really sure how she or Donald Trump have been attacked. I know grand juries of citizens have seen evidence and returned indictments. Marie, what do you think? Exactly. I think she's saying what she knows is going to make him happy. That's it, billable hours. You know, at the end of the day, yeah, yeah, she knows that check is never going to dry up. And even after the election, he's probably promised her some kind of role that she can just draw this, you know, drag this out. All of his lawyers who dragged it that way, they'll be among the toadies who end up in the in the DOJ. I'm starting to be worried. I'm starting to be worried how he's going to raise money to pay for all these lawyers next year if he's not fundraising off of rubes anymore. Well, he'll still probably be selling some kind of weird, hard, not-called thing. The gay porn NFTs, please go ahead. Yeah, exactly. Regarding Georgia and the shooting, just FYI, for those who don't know, the Georgia Democrats had a bill that they worked with Republicans in the state legislature, it was a gun safety bill, and it was in the last session that closed in tail end of March, beginning of April of this year. Senate Republican leadership would not bring it up for a vote. So I don't wonder if, yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, it was a press conference today. The Democrats in the state legislature are asking the governor to call an emergency session, pass gun safety legislation. Brian Kemp is not the guy. No, no. If he agrees to it, he's going to find some way to tank it. But it's also it's also interesting that it's happening this close to a major election. You know, when Brian Kemp is like, tried so hard to make MAGA like him again after making them all hate him because he didn't lie and break the law for Donald Trump. So it's like, this pushes him into a political corner. He is just drawing so hard, like all Republican leaders, after one of these shooting things, their number one goal is to find words to say so that they won't ever have to do anything to prevent the next one. And Brian Kemp, like the GOP, is committed to doing nothing to preventing the next day or 15 mass shooting. Exactly. Well, remember, he was a guy that had the commercial where he pointed a gun, a long gun at a team. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God, you know, we could just really, we could just put some money into penis enlargement technology to actually have a surgical procedure to let these men be able to live with themselves and half of them wouldn't need the guns anymore. But again, I'm in solutions, Marie. Thank you so much for calling, counselor. I appreciate it. Thank you for watching away. Rob, the racist. Let me go before he gets to TV's Frank really quick Houston in California on line five Houston welcome. Hey, how are you tonight? Good. How are you? I'm complaining. It's Friday night. I got two days off. Nice. But I have to ask you something. Yes, sir. I have to ask you something. On behalf of all the American people, I have a challenge for you. Okay. It's about you. John Fukel say. Yes, yes, yes. Run it for Congress. What's your challenge for Congress? Will you run for Congress? No, no, no, I will not run for Congress. No, stop. I'm going to stop you. There are not enough good people in this world and you're going to know that. I know that. No, I'm not a good person. You don't want to be a Congress. No, no, no, no, no. You don't want me to go. No, like a guy like Tom Hartman. Yes, we do. That guy like Tom Hartman should run for Congress. But he's, you know, he's probably asleep now. It's okay. Stop it now. No. Michelangelo's thinking really there's lots of good people that should run for Congress. Karen Hunter should run for Congress. Yeah. Somebody thought Bob was over the head like Bob won't you? Yeah, I can. But you'd be surprised how few appreciate that and but no, the real reason why I would never run for office for years I said it's because of all the, you know, horrific things I enjoyed. All of the things I did that were really fun when I was younger and the way I enjoyed life to the fullest and never, never bothered anybody, had a great time, showed a lot of ladies a good time, just didn't, you know, all kinds of debauchery. However, that, that's not good enough anymore that now suddenly, you know, sins don't matter. So let me just say I could never bear asking people for money. I just couldn't do it. The way you have to just slavishly be on the phone and call people you barely know and protect them from money is something that I am not wired to do. If we had, if we had publicly funded elections, if we had sane elections, I would run my two six. You want to add my two cents because I understand that I understand that completely, but we're going to give money to somebody and it might as well be somebody who knows what the fuck they're doing. Well, there's better people than me for that. Listen, I've met enough Congress people to know that some of them are dopes, but we have some amazing. Listen, Ted, Ted Liu is exactly who should be in our Congress. Jamie Raskin is exactly who should be in our Congress. Mark Pocan, Jasmine Crockett, I've met all these people. They are incredible public service. I am a, I am a clown. I'm a clown who makes dick jokes. The whitest man on earth. The whitest man with the most ethnic name. Please consider how, please consider it's, it's, you know, very hard for a guy with something long and think of a really like me, locked up, you have the white boat locked up. You don't know more about white people and Catholic people, my friend, is a lot of white people that Catholic people would not like the things I like. I know what the same, but look, I'm the child, the child of a southern next time. All right. I'm going to call you every week and challenge you to this because we need you. I don't want to be in. I would be pope. That's a job I would run for. And I would serve if I was picked, but Congress, I, I would vote for you. Oh, you're so nice. Thank you. If you were an altar boy, I'd say inappropriate things around you. So thank you. That means a lot. But no, that joke alone, that joke alone, that joke alone means I could never run for office. Now, you know who would? There are some comedians that could run for office that should run for office, but there's one comedian that deserves to run for emperor. And that is a man who was a comedy writer and a performer began his career, writing for the Peabody Award winning comedy central series, Mr. Rescience Theater 3000 where he played TV's Frank. He went on to be a writer, producer and actor on the ABC TV series, a breed of the teenage witch. I have worked with this man on TV, on radio and on stage. He's one of the funniest guys in the game, the greatest deadpan comedian alive. People of earth, I give you TV's Frank Frank Conif. Thank you, John. Appreciate that, although since you just threw me my 68th birthday party, you must know that I am no longer the best deadpan comedian. I'm the best bedpan comedian. Oh, oh, that's, that's not, that's a granddad joke, Frank. That one. Well, that's, I don't do, I'm too old to do dad jokes. I'm going to do granddad jokes now. They will set your ARP hard on fire for a job like that, sir, a happy birthday TV's Frank. It was such an honor. So here's what happened, folks. Irene Bremas called me and said, Hey, John, because that's what she calls me, John with the Staten Island schwa sound, John, we got to have a party for Frank. And I said, Irene, how did you get this number? Because I keep changing it so she can't call me anymore. But so we threw a party for Frank in my backyard way up in, in, in Harlem adjacent and it's the first party I've ever thrown in my home, Frank. I've been there almost three years, but for you, anything. Thank you so much. It was, it was very fun and everyone had a good time. A lot of funny people came, a lot of funny people. So thank you. Yeah, it was great. I thank you and I think Irene. Absolutely. So I'm glad you had a good birthday. I'm glad you're with us tonight. It's been a rather interesting couple of days in the news, Frank, and I want to get your thoughts on a lot of things. We have a lot of callers who want to weigh in and seek your wisdom. But before we talk to anybody, you know, our old pal Dave Rubin made it to the news this week. It's always happy when people you came up with or are getting headlines. They gave Dave Rubin a hundred grand a month, no, 400 grand a month with a hundred grand signing bonus. And Dave never asked where the money was coming from, Frank. You know what I wouldn't either. I have to tell you about that, if I got that kind of offer and I, all I felt when I heard about this is just sheer jealousy that these guys made so much money with that. These Russian whoever is behind it, you know, it's yeah, I'm just like viciously jealous. And, you know, Dave Rubin is a strange case because I believe he was on your show the very first week. The very first week he was on our show. We liked him. We hung out. We hung out with Dave. We hung out with him in L.A. I booked him on shows I did in L.A. shows I did in New York. We did laughing liberally shows with him. He did this show. I mean, I did, I did all kinds of set up shows in L.A. that Dave did. Dave was on out cue. He was on the gay channel here on Sirius XM, but then he realized you could make a lot more money being Tucker Carlson's pet gay and licking fascist boots and throwing the entire LGBTQ. He's wearing it in this business. We call show or I should say that we call talk radio podcasting. That's where the, that's where the big money is. If you're not a celebrity like Conan O'Brien who like makes gillion, bazillions of dollars for podcasting. But if you're just like us, like aspiring, you know, broadcasters, comedians, political commentators, whatever, that's where the real loot is, is, is in super right wing. Yeah. Alt right. They call it or, you know, or let or stuff that's so left wing. It's right wing. Right. Well, you're like, like Jimmy, our friend Jimmy Doar, who's now is openly supporting Trump. Yeah. What a shock, huh? What a shock. We saw it coming. And it, we saw coming for years and it makes me sad, but I'm sure Jimmy is sad that I'm such a shit live. So I'm sure Jimmy's enjoying the very large house. He was able to purchase now that he is and you know what I, I, I still consider him a friend. I do too. I love Jimmy. I haven't talked to him in years. I haven't either. He's on the show. Many times. I love his wife. Steph. I had such great times hanging out with them and being on their podcast when I lived in LA. So I, you know, I just, it's just, you know, politically we, we have just really gone way different directions. I completely agree with your Frank, but you know, it also, I mean, Tim Poole is another guy, one of these heroes, Tim Poole. He's the guy who used to be a Bernie bro and was occupied Wall Street and now he gets paid to lick boots. Benny Johnson as well. I mean, in fairness to all these guys, Frank, you know, if you're already rooting for the murder of Ukrainian children and for Ukrainian women to be raped, if you already want to see the country destroyed and see Vladimir Putin absorb it because he's a dictator, if you're already rooting for violence and dictatorship, you know, I mean, at least they didn't have to betray their values. None of them sold out, Frank, is what I'm saying. They were paid by fascist to cheer on fascists. They didn't sell out. They, you know, they, we're all very adamant about the war of Ukrainian aggression, which I get. Frank. But, and then I'm saying that it's a joke that they really honestly believe that that's what it is. Yeah. Frank, how much would, how much would, how much Russian money would it cost for you to throw some pro Putin riffs into the Mads are back? Oh man. And that's what nine dollars and 40 cents. They don't realize that the 400 grand a month, I could have been gotten for so much cheaper than that. For 400 grand a month. I'd let Putin have sex with Frank. Yeah. I totally. I mean, that let a battalion run a train on Frank for that kind of money. That's one of the things about my career, which is now a very long career at this point is I've been wanting to sell out my entire crew, nobody, when I was in Hollywood, nobody wanted me. I was there available to do any kind of project to sell out. Nobody wanted me for any of that. And so I've been forced to, well, no, hang on, Frank, you did have a, you did have a brief career doing porn film acting, didn't you? Well, I don't consider that so, but you did, but you did, you did, you did. That was my passion project, but you did a very special kind of softcore porn, didn't you? Uh huh. I can't remember that. You did a very special. Oh, I did. I did it. So I remember the joke. It was a very soft core was called, I like you as a friend. Oh, yeah. Wow. That's very soft. The most erotic scene was the part where she was really supportive of it. Thank you for setting up that here, like setting up that joke from 15 years ago. Desperate butt habit, desperate butt habit, try to set up your budget line. All right. We got it. We got a lot of people who want to say hi, Frank. You want to talk to the evil army. Nice. Let's get to it, folks. We're at 866-997-GRID. Please try to make your comments or your threats as brief as possible for a rigid in Pennsylvania on line seven. Thank you so much for waiting. You're on SiriusXM. Good evening. Hi, I'm. How are you? Hi. How are you? First time calling in, by the way, by the way, by the way, yeah, yeah, if I'm thrilled you are, thanks. Wow. I have a question about the Rombershawn decision or postpone the sentence thing. I think this is going to turn out to be one ginormous grift because every time. How will it be a grift? I think he's going to take money from the supporters. I mean, everything he does is turn into a ginormous grift. I know that. But that's why it's brilliant because that's what he's done for years and he's been just funneling money from the RNC with his crooked daughter-in-law. But now he's not going to be getting any more donations for anything after November 5th. Laura Trump, a panelist hack, fucking hell. Yeah. Right. I mean, think about that, Frank. Donald Trump's not going to get any more donations from any of these groups after November 5. How's he going to pay his legal bills? You mean, if he loses on November 5th, even if he wins, they're not going to donate money to him. How's he going to fight these legal challenges? Well, when he's president, he can just-- It's just a billionaire billionaire. Why the hell is he asking his supporters for money? That's the one thing I don't understand. Well, you've thought that through more than 81 million Americans. That's-- or 72 million Americans. Go ahead, Frank. Well, you know, it's this whole Trump-- and I've said this on the show before. I never expect to see Donald Trump in an orange Trump suit. I never expect to see him in jail. In this country, if you have money, you can avoid justice. It's just the fact of life. Yeah. And that's what we're seeing with Trump, plus he has, you know, he has people who are afraid of him and-- Throw him an Alcatraz. Yeah. What do you think's going to happen? Throw him an Alcatraz. I would love to see that. Yeah. Bridget, do you think he'll ever actually do time in jail? I sure hope so. We'll find out. Thank you so much, Bridget. I appreciate your call. It's just like why it's-- No problem. It's all about the court. Keep on doing what you're doing, John. Keep on doing what you're doing. You're awesome. Call it anytime. Thank you. Thank you. That was Rock Hill. We all rock. You rock as well. You rock all over the family. I jazz fusion. But anyway, the-- I can't remember what I was going to say. Oh, they are-- they're like, don't ever expect justice for Trump in the courts. It's going to happen at the ballot box. We have the power. The most awesome thing that ever happened to Trump was when he lost the election last time. And there's a chance we can make it happen again. That's what we need to focus on the court. You're so right. The courts are not going to take care of it. I don't need to see Donald Trump sent to jail by a judge. I need to see Donald Trump never allowed to hire a judge to be a judge again. Dave in Washington on line eight, you were on with TV's Frank, Frank Conif. Welcome, sir. Hi, Dave. Now, he dropped. He literally just dropped. He dropped. He dropped. Oh, Dave. Open the pod bay doors. Let me go to Brian in Oregon, Brian on line three. Thank you so much, Brian, for waiting on old Euron Sirius XM. Hi, you guys. Hey. Hey. Hey, you're going to be at the Schnitzer. I saw my first show when it was a Paramount was Willie Nelson at 77 is there. Oh, man. Everybody's played at the theater. Frank, the theater I'm playing tomorrow night. I mean, Sam Cook, Frank Sinatra, the Marx Brothers, Louis Armstrong, you two in Tom Petty. Everyone's played this place. Yep. They've cleaned it up quite a bit. Portland. I love Portland, I have to say, and I've seen we did shows there with cinematic Titanic and Trace and I did shows there, and it's just a great town. Great town. It's in the top of my list of cities that I would live in if I had to leave New York. I understand me, too. Yeah. Me, too. Go ahead, Brian. Well, I was going to say on comment with a gun shooting in Georgia and a good buddy, Rob. Please. Make. Yeah. Yeah. For some guys, it does. For some, Rob believes that civilians being allowed to own machines that kill people really fast is what freedom's about. That's what Rob believes. But it's not freedom. It's, to me, it's a really convoluted vision of freedom in this country. I agree. Oh, I agree. It's the fascist vision of freedom. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm glad I'm not, you know, it's, I'm, I'm not a politician. So I can say, and I believe that if I were, if it were up to me, you know, how Republicans are saying they're coming for our guns? Yes. I were president. I would come for everybody's fucking guns. I would remove or I would confiscate every fucking gun in the country. The price of kids being killed in school is too high a price to pay for your freedom to own guns. If you want to go hunting, use a fucking bow and arrow. It's, and it's actually much more sportsman like to do it that way, you know. So I would, I would compensate every gun. See, Frank, I actually want to disagree. I think I was reading about all the shark attacks that are happening at the beach now. I think every American needs to have their own shark when they go in the water. That would help. If we gave every American a shark, we will finally, even the playing field and have some freedom to go into the beach, just bring your own shark. Yeah. I thought it through sense. Yeah. I'm a thinker. You know, Brian. Thank you. I'm here to help my other thing for politics is a Palestinian cabinet member. I mean, I love that idea. I'd love to see that someone, someone really good. Yeah. Yeah. That's just hope that if Harris is elected, that her policy will be a huge improvement right now at this point there as far as the policy in Gaza, we don't have any really great options of any of these. We do not have any great options. We have a, we have a flawed democratic option that hasn't done enough. And we have an evil Republican option that takes delight in the city of Palestine. Yeah. So let's just hope and it's up to us who are going to vote for her to, to pressure them. I agree. You know, I got to say, Frank, we, we, we, the, we, the people made Joe Biden become a lot more liberal in 2020. I have high hopes for the next administration to hopefully, you know, the, the result I hope is that is the sending arms to Israel becomes conditional, you know, as opposed to now where all they have to do is snap their finger, snap their finger and we send them arms. It's not right. Let's take a quick break. Mr. Khan, if it's so good to have you with us, we're going to come back in just a second with some more audio from the day. And I want to get your thoughts on, uh, Dick Cheney, uh, uh, woke liberal and started. Listen, he still deserves to die in prison, but he did a good thing today. And we want to take your calls at 866-997-4748. We'll be right back. This is progress. This is Sirius XM progress. I'm John Fugle, saying with Frank Khan, if taking your calls at 866-997-4748, Frank, Alan Dershowitz pulled out of something today, um, Epstein's plane. Yeah. Let me tell you, uh, he has finally left the Democratic party and I need a Shiatsu massage. I didn't know he was still in the, I thought he had left a long time ago. I kind of thought all the water he had carried for Donald Trump. He was legally a camel at this point, but so they, uh, Dershowitz is gone, but it looks like, uh, Dick Cheney's joined the woke, Frank. Um, I'm curious about your thoughts on this with a caveat that Dick Cheney is still evil and deserves to spend the rest of his torment today's in a prison in the Hague. Um, what did you make of Cheney's, I think, very good news today? Well, when I heard about it today and I saw Dick Cheney's going to vote for Kamala Harris, I was like, shit, just when everything seemed to be going well for her campaign, you know, then we have this setback. Um, yeah, I mean, I don't, uh, if he did a good thing, I'm not, I'm not going to say it. You know, I'm not going to say a nice thing about Dick Cheney ever. I, I, it to me, and it doesn't move the needle one way or the other, I think, in terms of the election. And also, you know, his motivation, um, it really all has to do with Donald Trump didn't invite him to, you know, be a part of his thing. Donald Trump didn't honor him. No, no, I disagree. I think Dick Cheney is a former secretary of defense. He was truly appalled at Donald Trump being a pawn of Russia. I, he's come out against Trump in the past. He's, I think he's appalled at the abandonment of NATO. He's appalled that Donald Trump is calling on Putin to invade our allies. I just think the fact that he's endorsing a Democrat is what makes this one different. Uh, yeah, I guess it is different, but, um, to me, um, Republicans against Trump, uh, is not as, as A through Rothstein said in casino. It's not the morality car wash that he described Vegas as being where you go and all of your sins are washed away. The coming out against Trump voting for Harris from someone like, like Dick Cheney and even Liz Cheney. It's, she's still evil, still evil. I know. Yeah. I mean, Liz Cheney said that the Democrats want to turn maternity wards into killing fields. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I found appalling was on MSNBC, uh, one of the guests who was a former, uh, Kamala Harris advisor or whatever, um, she suggests, you know, I, I think someone said she, you know, that, that she should welcome, you know, maybe make Dick Cheney a cabinet member. And I was just appalled to hear that. And, and I know it's crazy. If it doesn't have that juice, Liz Cheney too. I think some people have the idea. Oh, now maybe Liz Cheney will be the thing is, it's great. That could happen. These three, I, oh God, I hope not, but Kinsinger, it would happen with Kinsinger before Liz Cheney or any of the demo, many, many Republicans who spoke at the DNC do a whole tendency of, of some Democrats to bring Republicans in is, but they always do that. But every administration does it's appalling to me. And I say, let Dick Cheney, let Liz Cheney, let them, let them, uh, give you their support. Thank them for it. But if you're elected, keep them as far the fuck away from your administration as you can. I know. But there's no hole, there's no hole deep enough. You could bury Dick Cheney's remains in a lead box that they wouldn't still be toxic for this country. But, but again, Frank, there's probably a few thousand older conservative folks in seven swing states who will feel better about voting against Donald Trump because of what Dick Cheney did today. That's the only point I'm making, but I'm, you know, I still believe that, uh, I don't believe in the myth of in this selection, I don't believe in the myth of undecided voters. And if there are undecided voters, who are these idiots there, looking at, that are looking at these two people and going, yeah, I don't know which one I vote for, you know, so the same day, Alan Dershowitz leaves the Democratic party the same day Dick Cheney endorses Kamala Harris. And it's totally awkward for me because I'm like still BFFs with both of them. Okay. Let's get to the phones. Shall we beachside bill in Orlando line one? You got fans bill. Welcome. Evening, John, Frank, Chris and everybody in Frank happy birthday to you. Hope I'm a couple of years behind you. All right. And you hear that caller earlier bill? You got a fan in Chicago. Julian Chicago is raving about you. Yes, I did, John. And I want to say thank you to Julie. I really, you know, I really appreciate it. I'm humbled. I am. You know, it's, you know, I, you know, I just donated my hundred fifty third gallon of blood and that by the end of the year, I'll be near one fifty five. So that's just, you know, he's donated a hundred fifty three gallons of blood, Frank. I think it was beachside bill who gave all the clean blood to the rolling stones when they exchanged theirs and switched to the back of the 70s. Is it your mistake bill was you stored it all in the elevators at the overlook hotel. Oh, oh, oh, nice, very good. I earned that one. I earned that one. What's on your mind? So I, you know, I want to deflect from Dick Cheney. Yeah, you all just explained I, I, but I want to make an observation, John, comparison between the so-called Trump assassination and Georgia. What just happened in Georgia? Okay. Yeah. I'll make it. I'll make it quick. Emotionally disturbed kids with easy access to machines designed to kill lots of people really fast. Go ahead. Yeah. That too. But notice the police chief in Georgia, he had the CSI, uh, uh, GSI, you know, Georgia state bill, uh, the best on notice on his left ear, the piece of it's gone, the tip of his left ear. I noticed these things because I'm blind in my left eye. I only have one good eye and various suit with these kind of things. So I kind of, you know, I'm, I'm calling out the question of, you know, did Trump's something didn't, I don't believe a bullet hit Trump's here. I believe the blood hit is here or something. It's something did not hit his ear because this guy, you look at his ear and I'm not saying anything about it bad about him. I'm just saying looking at the chug what's blown up. You can see that you can see it. He was. Yeah. 15. Yes. I mean, the cartilage didn't have a scratch, but Frank, I, I got to say, um, I, I, if Donald Trump would just release a hospital report, there wouldn't be these conspiracy theories, but they will never go away because for all we hear is, you know, drunken Ronnie Jackson, no official hospital report still in the media, what's the matter? They don't give the media doesn't give a shit about anything that Trump that's, you know, the whole Arlington thing that media was just so lazy about finding out who lazy, what happened, who did it, you know, um, Trump gets such a pass of not just from the courts, but from the media, which brings you back to him saying only we can stop him by voting him out. The media and the courts are going to let it let us down every time bill. I'll give you the last word when it comes to Arlington. You know, I think Maric down could kind of redeem himself and go after Trump, you know, go after something, you know, go after the two thugs that before the election, now if they won't do before the election, they will not, they won't put, they won't put themselves in that position. I think it's Eric Garland. I think by the middle of the second Kamala Ha Kamala Harris administration, Maric Garland will get on it. That's the way. Well, listen, Frank, Maric Garland is weeks away from determining if Will Smith actually hit Chris Rock. So we're very close to a decision on that. Thank you so much, Bill for the call. Greg and Florida online three Greg, thank you so much for waiting. You're on Sirius XM. Good evening. Oh my God. Oh, John. Oh, man. Oh, shit. I didn't think I was going to be on this quick. Oh, welcome. It's good to have you. Hi. Oh, I just, you know, oh, there's, oh, God, I don't even know where to start. They're just so much going on. I can't even handle, I can't handle all of this crap. That fricking non news conference today, you call it a non news conference. Trump comes out and stands in front of microphones and talks for an hour and doesn't take one question. I mean, what the fuck is that crap? You know what that is. It's a campaign event. It's a campaign event. And I happen to be watching as CNN was airing it live and it's so great to tune into CNN and hear a live feed of a rapist insulting his victims and CNN just like airing it. You know, they did. They did eventually cut away from him, but, you know, we'll just have to leave it there then. Yeah, exactly. And then they, they, they were having experts to come on to point out there might be some holes and what Donald Trump said, you know, I mean, Greg, think about this. He never, Donald Trump never bothered to show up in court once for that he, Jean Carol Trelle. Now he shows up to try to have the sentencing change and get the thing thrown out. But yeah, he only, I mean, it's not going anywhere in court. He just showed up to stand in front of a camera and mutter because he was in New York City. He was in New York yesterday for the horrible speech he gave at the economic club. I mean, I say, let this guy go on camera and just talk every day without an audience. It's fantastic. Nobody, but nobody is calling him out. Nobody is saying he's talking gibberish. No one. Remember all the stuff about, about Biden's cognitive decline and how Biden is too old. It was their major story and they never, they never talk about that every day. Biden is not in front of the camera every day. Donald Trump is front of the camera every day. Biden is not. You can't fricking, you can't compare that. That's garbage. I mean, you can. If you want, listen, I don't. There's a camera every fucking day and he's nothing but a useless piece of crap. Yeah, but they're correct. They don't, you know, the New York Times and CNN, they don't, they don't, they don't. I know. They don't. I'm not. No, I'm not telling it. Trump could never do. Trump could never do. They don't. Nobody is saying anything about it. And for all the comments about Joe Biden's performance at the NATO Summit press conference, I mean, my God, Biden was amazing. Donald Trump could never do what that old man did. How about Axios this week, which had a headline about how Kamala Harris is avoiding questions about her identity because she, that's in the interview, she said next question to them. She's avoiding questions like, you know, God forbid Donald Trump's K K K father is ever brought up by anybody now, but you know, not taking, not taking the bait means avoiding questions. Yeah. I don't think. Yeah. And it was the perfect response. Donald Trump. Grandfather. Father. Hey, well, Donald Trump could talk to them when he sees them. They're hanging out with Roy Cohn and Nixon right now, someplace Greg. Thank you so much for the call. By the way, this just in the new poll from Emerson College and the bill, like in Palmer College. Yes. Well, Lincoln, my God, I think Chris made the same joke. Trump is leading Harris in Florida by five points and in Texas by four points. This means, yeah, they are within Kamala Harris is now within margin of error with Donald Trump in Florida and Texas. That's the story of the week. That's why they're dumping it late on a Friday. My God. Yeah. I'm not. I'm not really holding my breath of for her to win those states, but in or am I that she's she's doing well, though, you know, and they're adding staff. They're adding like it, but I say everybody go forward as if Kamala is way behind in the polls. That's it. Desperate situation. You've got to really work hard. And I think that's that's the way her campaign seems to be looking at it, you know, is she keeps saying we're the underdogs and and and there's no like smug kind of, you know, feeling that they're doing well, you know, it like, I don't know if you remember, like Michael Dukakis had a huge bounce after he sure did, and he took time off. He you know, he he kind of like got cocky about it and and and we saw the result of that. By the way, Frank, we got to take a break. Will you stay with us till the top of the hour? This just this just in Vladimir Putin has offered you $17 to say you hate chicken keve on your podcast. So I decide if you want to sell out. So generous of all the things I cannot say I don't like chicken keve. It's fucking delicious. Oh, so look at you the butter comes out. You are strong. Look at your ethics. It's very delicious. I can't I can't speak out against it. Frank Conif can't be bought. No, not for for $25, maybe 25 bucks, maybe 25 bucks, maybe. All right. PB's Frank Frank Conif, it is such a pleasure having you with us. What is the best way for our evil army of tonight to follow you? Go to dumb-industries.com and at Frank Conif, all over the social medias and at dumb-industries.com. You can get signed copies of my book and my my audiobook of dark apnea. I'm so excited, Frank Conif's first ever audiobook. Yeah, and I'm looking at another one right now, so. Oh, brilliant. More where that came from. Thank you so much for joining us, Frank. Let's go to the phone so while we have a chance, Sam is on the line from California on line seven. Thank you for waiting. You're on SiriusXM. Welcome. Hello. Can you hear me? I sure can. How you doing? Okay. You know, the debate, Kamala should just, first of all, look at the camera, smile and hango and send off some zingers. I wouldn't let that clown wax my bicycle. Exactly. You don't have to respond to anything, he says, then you talk to his base in the swing stage. I'm going to put chip factories. You're all going to get, you know, met infrastructure project, and be specific. I'll put one here, here, here, you know, I mean, she's got everyone listening. Yeah. Oh, no, I mean, all she has to do is show up and not take the bait. I mean, we had a caller earlier tonight, Frank, who said that she's at the end of every one of her answers. She's the debate moderators. Are you going to fact check what he just said? But I don't think she should talk to Trump at all. I think she should just, I mean, Donald Trump has got, he's the one who's got to have some discipline. She's just got to show up and show a lot of people watching that she's the grownup in the room. Yeah. But I have to say, though, I really won't know how I really feel about the debate until afterwards on CNN and I hear what Scott Jennings has to say. Oh, yeah. I understand. You're me with Dennis Prager. Yeah. And then Hugh Hewitt, too. I mean, I think you're right, though, Sam, I'm really looking forward to this one. I think it's going to be a very interesting debate. And Frank, I won't be surprised if Donald Trump's show, he'll lie. But I think he actually showed a bit of discipline in the debate with Joe Biden. He wasn't the monkey flinging his feces. He actually, you know, didn't talk during the breaks. It seemed like he'd been coached pretty well. So I wouldn't be surprised when he does better than what he's been. Oh, a line nonstop and they didn't fact check it. One thing that was true and he, I know, and I've said this before, but these debates are not for the public, they're for the media, they give the, they really have no real value. And I should say they're for the media and they're for comedians because I'm going to be doing a live riff of it at QED. Ah, I'm so jealous. I'll be here. Yeah. But it really has, they never have any great value in terms of people decide. The idea that someone's going to be going, oh, I'm going to see this debate. Then I'll decide who I'm going to vote for. It's just absurd. It's absurd to me. Exactly. I know. But again, there's people out there who don't know Kamala Harris yet, who didn't watch the debate. I mean, who didn't watch the DNC and there's a lot of conservative people who are going to be seeing her for the first time. This is her chance to push just enough over the line. I don't think conservative people should be a priority. No, but there's, but I agree with you. Their priority is getting people off the couch to vote. But if there's a few conservatives that can swing, a few people that you can motivate to show up and vote who were on the fence before, they just need the numbers. Sam, thank you so much for the call. We have time for one more Mitch and Ken state, unlike who you've been on hold since the show began. Mitch, thank you so much for your patience. Thank you, John. Happy belated. They're too frank. And do you too? Thank you, Mitch. You're close together. So enjoy. John, first of all, hell froze over today with that Chaney endorsement and the FOP endorsed Trump too. I mean, my God, I don't know, let's switch up the authority of police, right? Endorsing Trump. Yeah. Well, you know, I mean, I'm not always surprised by that, even though Donald Trump had cops have the shit beaten out of them for a lie. But I've got cops in my life and I understand a certain kind of man, certain kind of man. I heard that I heard the 2D and Muldoon did not sign up through it. Go ahead, Mitch. 1969 Toronto, that's a must see. I just finally watched it. The Toronto, Toronto, Rockwell Revival with John and Yolks. Oh, no, no, no. Listen, this is way too contemporary for me. 1969 John Lennon and Toronto. I'm sorry. You're too modern for me. It's, I mean, I've listened to parts and pieces of it. That's when the Beatles were still together. They were still together, but John's first solo show. Yeah, I was thinking it was official breakup right there. I mean, but. No. Not the official one. And they weren't even recorded. The Doris, no film, no body of the Doris and never the headliner. And then Bo Diddley, I mean, Chuck Berry, you name it, I mean, it was just a fantastic thing. Wow. You're going to loves the 70s, Mitch, when you get around to it, you're going to love the explosion of funk in the 70s. It's a whole new sound. You're going to love it. But the Bee Gees. Oh, well, wait, wait for that. Hey, no, no disparaging of the Bee Gees allowed. No. We've never disparaged the Bee Gees. Mitch, thank you for calling. We are out of time, Chris, I believe. Frank, God bless you. Thanks for being with us. Thank you, Chris. Thank you, Thea. I'm John Fuigle, saying keep it to you in the Serious Section in Progress. Peace.
