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How To Build A Pod by Adrian Newey

Jess and Spencer discussing the breaking news of Adrian Newey officially joining Aston Martin in 2025. With no race this past weekend, the duo answer some fan questions submitted on Twitter and play a game of two fan theories and a lie.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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10 Sep 2024
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Jess and Spencer discussing the breaking news of Adrian Newey officially joining Aston Martin in 2025. With no race this past weekend, the duo answer some fan questions submitted on Twitter and play a game of two fan theories and a lie. 

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Yes, if you will, if you will, if you will watch this clip, then we, of course, will add in post because we are brilliant. Charles, Charles the flare, driving, driving a car at a speed of what appears to be, I'm not a scientist, but I'm going to estimate one mile an hour, two miles an hour. The slowest speed bender bender of all time. It's been confirmed. This is really him, right? And also it has to be because this is like a half a billion dollar car. What car is this that he's driving, Spencer? That is, I believe, Ferrari's cozy coach is what I prefer to call it. It is, I'm going to get the name absolutely correct here. Okay. Yes, I say that right. It's Italian and I don't have a good Italian accent. Yes, the, the, the, the Puro song song game, uh, it's Ferraris, but it's what I call Ferraris cozy coop, right? It's cute. It's expensive. It's really expensive, but it looks like, um, it looks like a key, a narrow, like, that's the thing. If you design a little mini SUV, you always end up making the same car, no matter what you're making. You're guinea makes an SUV. Well, some, some people would beg to do, some people make very pointy cars that do look a lot different. I guess. I guess are technically SUVs, but maybe they're technically trucks. Yeah. I know. They all look like Crocs. That's the thing. Every, every car that is not in a hypercar or a hot hatchback just looks like a croc at this point. And this kind of looks like a very expensive croc, but it is Charlotte Claire totally bumping into somebody at a roundabout in Monaco. You go, Oh, well, it was a low speed accident. I think Monaco only has low speed accidents. It's a mile by a mile. You can't, like, you can't get going to a high speed. That's why they have to clear everything out for the race. There's no way to reach the highs F one cars barely reach a high speed on this circuit. What makes you think somebody driving their expensive croc around town is going to get over 20 miles an hour? I, I, the, um, it's like around a hairpin turn too. I love that there's someone filming this exact spot and this exact moment in his face just like kind of peeps out into the sun and you can tell he's like, Oh, it's fine. It's fine. We'll, we'll move it along some way. I was thinking too, I was like, Oh, that's, that's just so irresponsible in an expensive car. And then I remember what he does for a living. So this is nothing really. Yeah. It's like, it's like the signature hairpin turn in Monaco, like a, a circuit that he's driven around his entire life and raced in a dozen times and it's beautiful. Just from my experience, Europeans have a very difficult or very different understanding of leaving space and cars at close range. If you've been to Paris or London, uh, parking is a contact sport, particularly in Paris, I respect that for the most part, their cars are much, they're much shorter, much shorter. You can, you can park a lot more in a lot fewer spaces. You can park a lot more also bumpers, bumper is considered to be an active description of what it does on a car in Europe, as opposed to where we go, Oh, you touched my car. We should exchange insurance there. It's like, I'm parking and I'm going to make sure that yours work. So there's some, some smacking that goes on. What I'm saying is that I respect that he does this even in a Ferrari that is peak Euro behavior. Mm hmm. I love it, I love it. That was the most racing action we had this week in F1, um, obviously there was a little bit of news. We, we briefly talked about Adrian newy last week with spanners that's been sort of officially announced as of this week, um, and so we put out a little Q and A Spencer to see if anyone had any questions for us in this, uh, sort of F1 bi week, if you will. And we did actually get a question about Adrian newy. We got a question about how is this all going to work and specifically, how is this going to work at a team where the owner of the team employs his own son to drive for the team in F1 despite very, um, I wouldn't say overwhelming evidence, but despite a decent amount of evidence that he is not really like one of the top drivers in the sport. So yeah, let's say hypothetically, Aston Martin builds a like super fast car. Sure. Maybe not 2025. I know Lance Roll just got extended, um, Fernando Alonso sticking around next year, but let's say it's for the following year, 2026 Aston Martin comes out and they are super fast and you have both of those guys still at the team. How is that all going to work? How are they going to figure that out when they are legitimately contenders in this hypothetical scenario? Well, that is the assumption that they are legitimately contenders. But if I grant you that, then we're left with this scenario, which is hiring Adrian newy to ensure that your son is a driver, the second best driver on the Aston Martin team. That's really what we're about here because whoever is the other driver at Aston Martin barring the rehiring of somebody with a proven track record of P 19 or P 20, like if they go out and get Logan Sergeant, no offense to Logan, but your numbers are your numbers. Unless they do that and they won't make Lance Stroll number one, then we would be witnessing somebody who enjoys winning more than they enjoy propping up their son. That's what we would be seeing. Would you be shocked by that, Jessica, to see somebody as hyper competitive as Lawrence Stroll do that? Even if it's like, even if it's indirect, even if it's, I'll give my son every opportunity in the world, but I like winning and he went and he hired a better driver who ended up outperforming Lance Stroll. Would that shock you? Yes. I feel like we have a lot of evidence that he cares more about his son than about winning in like just general, right? Wouldn't you say? I mean, he also maybe just has like a blind belief and faith in his son. And look, I'm not like, I'm not judging you for being a super rich person and doing something like this because there's no evidence to support the fact that I wouldn't do the same thing. If I like had a bajillion dollars and bought a team so I could have my kid be on the team and like, like, let's be clear, like he's competitive. He's not the worst on the grid. He's definitely not the best on the grid, but he's also not like be fair to say he's not the worst. I'm going to get you. I'm going to get you in trouble at home here. Would you do that for your boyfriend? You said you would do that for your child. Would you do that if if your boyfriend said I would really love to be an F1 driver and you had 28 billion dollars, are you going to make that happen? Yeah, I mean, I think I would put I think I would have my boyfriend and my dog. They would be my number one of mine. My dog would be pause on the steering wheel. She's racing. I'm going to it's going to be like airbud F1 edition. I don't know. I think that it's not going to work well to answer their question. I think we have evidence that Lauren Stroll really does love his son and wants him to do a good job and be successful and he loves him so much. He's paying Adrian Dewey like 30 million dollars or something crazy to work for them. So I think this is just an extension of that love. He's like, I'm going to make my son look even better because he's going to have an even better car and we'll figure it out when something bad happens. But for now, like this is all for him and I guess he can't blame him. How much does he love him? He loves him enough that Adrian Dewey's reported salary at Aston Martin, her ESPN F1 will make him 3,434 pounds an hour and that's crazy. And he doesn't have to leave the septered aisle does not have to leave England. I saw a one of the F1 meme accounts post a Harry Potter meme of Draco Malfoy when he shows up at Quidditch practice in the Harry Potter movie with like the fancy broom and he's like, that's right, Weasley, unlike some my father can afford the best and it's like it's like it's Stroll showing up with Adrian Dewey as his car, car guy. Yeah. 2025. Yeah. That's. But yeah, I mean, I don't know. I don't know how it's going to work. It's obviously F1 lots of politics and it's even more more politics involvement. It's your own flesh and blood and they're fighting for a sort of like respect and legitimacy, but it should be interesting. I'm going to bet I will reiterate my bet is going to be on I like winning and I'm going to prop my son up as much as possible while going after winning because I may be paying Adrian Dewey to build my son a beautiful car, but he's got to build two of them doesn't teach us a car. And what if what if what if we just put a really good driver in that really good car? Wouldn't that be the best thing for my son and in the back of his head, he's thinking God, I want to win. I want to win so bad. The money is not the money at this point. Remember, these are rich people. It's never about the money past a certain point. This is about emotions. Pride, usually. Yeah. Someone said, what's the funniest outcome? I mean, I in like a in like a dark way, I think the funniest outcome is that like they're still in like fifth place, even with Adrian Dewey and it's like this hype train over nothing. Um, I don't, maybe there's a funny, can you think of a funnier outcome, like Fernando Alonso wins the 2026 driver. Yeah. I was going there. I was going with an ancient Fernando Alonso comes in third and the drivers stroll is still in P seven. I mean, they signed an extension through 2026 and 2026 is the first year of a lot of F one changers. So I mean, it's possible, it's possible that it's a retooling year for a lot of teams. It's entirely possible. The funniest possible setup involves a bunch of different variables, but it involves Aston Martin finishing ahead of Red Bull with helmet Marco still being at Red Bull. Like that's what I want to see. I want to see like a 942 year old helmet Marco still behind the scenes running Red Bull and finishing behind a part-time Adrian newy who's clearly like doing gardening in his spare time, but still making a better building is boat or whatever like he wants to like sail around the world. Fernando Alonso is signed through at least 26, I believe, and he is currently 43. So in this hypothetical situation, he is a 45 year old F one champion, which I think would be pretty funny and like honestly, pretty cool. I would, I would be bomb Brady who? I would be totally in favor of this like old dog's soccer with Adrian newy and Fernando Alonso competing against again, 948 year old helmet Marco for Red Bull greatness and an aging total wolf to let's not total is not as young as you even think he is. I know everyone's like, Oh, he's older than you think he is. No, he's even older than that. He just looks great. That's it. He's like, um, what 60, he's kind of a, he's ageless to me. He is ageless because I think he turned, I think he's one of those guys who, when he turned 30, he turns 50 and he will be 50 until he's 70. That's, that's he only has like, you know, like he had a young period and then he went straight from 18 to 30 and then from 30 to 50 and then from 50 to 70. He only ages in 20 year chunks. Yeah. I know a lot of people like that actually moving on Spencer. We had a question that I think you'll like to answer. Yes. What one off events and racing or other sports would you like to see similar to the paddle Larson swap in Mexico gateway races. So the Mexico gateway races is in Monterey or is in Mexico, I'm sorry, paddle award is from Monterey and there it, there may be some sort of driver swap going on. Is that correct? Yes. We're doing a driver swap. It is a very cool event. It's not the one that I would want to call. Jessica, have we ever noticed that you can take a NASCAR track and you can put a Formula one road track in the middle or an Indy car road track, but that happens, right? There are some races like in Charlotte, the roval where they kind of combine the two. I would like to see a full on combined race with road course in the middle oval where you have to tag team, the driver, one NASCAR driver and one F1 driver or one NASCAR driver and one Indy car driver and they have to drive at least a quarter of the race in the other car, right? I want to see what that looks like. That is a fascinating idea. I was going to say like I would want to see a sort of one off like driver swap just within F1 plucked different drivers from different teams just for one weekend. It would never happen and it would never work, but like let's put Max and Checo in the Williams and let's put Alex Albon back in the Red Bull and let's really see what happens. Like I'd love to just do a little switcharoo for a weekend and then that would be enough fodder for F1 fans to argue about probably for the end of time. Like I think you could power entire electric grids with the amount of takes that would come out of that singular event. I like your idea a lot. I like a cross-disciplinary sort of racing event. It's like the in the Olympics when they do the different, what is it, the relays with the different swimming or like a heptathlon. Or the medley. You're talking about the medley. Yes, the medley. Thank you. I couldn't think of the word. Like a medley. Yeah. And it's four different cars. Oh, that would be fun. Yeah. I like that. This is all by the way. We keep coming back to it. Because in that there's this like grand cup competition, all disciplines, all different types of cars. There's like an indie car running on dirt. There's a rally car running on an indie circuit. I think that would be a total disaster. It doesn't mean I don't want to see it. But practically speaking, you can change the drivers and get them to race in two different disciplines. I think that's actually manageable and doable. There's only one problem. The pits would be nuts. The pits would be like logistically setting up an F1 paddock and a NASCAR pit set up. The F1 paddock is compared to the NASCAR one that's kind of like comparing boys comparison shaky, but I'm going to make it anyway, right? It's like big chemical factory F1 paddock meth lab, NASCAR pit. It's a little more complex than that, right? But in terms of like you could set up a net, I've been in a NASCAR pit and I've been in an F1 paddock, but it's pretty easy to set up a NASCAR pit like that's easy compared to all the logistics and crap an F1 team has to do. You would say it's hectic, I think, right? Hectic. How on earth will we do any of the switches? Chaotic. I don't know. But that's part of the fun. Go ahead. Sell that concept. Amazon Netflix begin bidding immediately. You have my number. You can have it. Yeah. Well, you have to pay sponsor for it, sorry. You have to pay me at least $27 for the concept. That's a pretty good deal. Okay. Next question. Can we actually see Red Bull come in third place this year in the Constructors Championship? I think yes. Technically you could. You can. I mean, yeah, like there's still a lot of coods at this point. That might be betting a lot on Ferrari. I think you would have to you'd have to really have lost faith in Red Bull for that outcome because right now Red Bull is in first place with 446 points. McLaren very closely behind them with 438 points and then Ferrari in third place. They're about 40 points back behind Red Bull. I don't want this. I can't say a reason I wouldn't want this to happen because it would mean so many bad things happening to Checo Paris. It's like a number of things that I think would be psychologically shattering to him on a level that he could not recover from. And I think he's already been through enough this year. So I don't want this to happen. It's possible. But I don't even like talking about it. It makes me nervous. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it would be like a little bit more of the same. I feel like from him, but slightly worse, but then like Max would really have to fall off a cliff performance-wise, which I don't know, like it's too soon to tell if that is the case because we've got a lot of different kinds of tracks coming up compared to the ones that they were just at. So I don't know. I mean, I could see it happening. I wouldn't like bet on it, but I could see it happening. I think it's feasible technically. I haven't done the math though on the fly. Yeah. I can't tell you exactly when or how. How's this feasible but horrifying? That's what I would go ahead and put it there. You know, occasionally you get like a crossover question from things we do in other days of the week, Jessica. And I usually don't like them, but we can entertain this one because I think sponsorship is always a funny question to me. Which bowl game sponsor do you want to see on F1 livery? It's not even close. Pop-tart. Pop-tart. I want to see- Really? That's not what I was going to say. What were you going to say? Does it have to be a current bowl game sponsor? No, just as bowl game sponsor. I think pop-tart's interesting because I would, you know, like the European mind cannot comprehend this meme. I want the pop-tart mascot to go to an F1 race and walk on the grid. You're following my thinking here because don't you want to see like a rouge, beautiful shot of spa and there's the crowd, right? You can see the curve and then there's the crowd right there and then the camera zooms in and they see a spectral scary figure standing behind the fence waving next to the sewers. Oh, look. It's the pop-tart. Just waving. His eyes not blinking. Right? Ah, the prostah sugar. I can't look. Yeah. Like I want pop-tarts to be on there because I want them to have to say like, you know, that's the Williams car sponsored by pop-tarts. Not legally recognized as food in the youth, right? Like, but technically hog fodder. I was thinking, um, real answer, beefo Brady, because that was my favorite bowl sponsor, beefo Brady, the beefo Brady bowl. I mean, nothing rolls off the tongue like beefo Brady. No longer with us though, however, every time I, I knew about the beefo Brady bowl before I ever even saw a beefo Brady's like in real life, because they were not a chain where I grew up. Yeah. And I remember being like 21 day driving past a beefo Brady's being like, that's the bowl game. That's a place. I have no idea. Yeah. Um, fake answer. Lockheed Martin. That would be an interesting choice. Lucky boy. That would be an interesting choice on a whole lot of different levels. Um, Duke's Mayo also another food crossover that, you know, the Dutch love their mayonnaise. So I think they would actually they would be okay with that. Yeah. That would be a great idea. That would be like this. This North Carolina has very good ideas about mayonnaise. If they're fries in, um, yeah, bad boy mowers. 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Um, another, see another crossover question of sorts, which would be this, um, Yuki says he's a peroni drinker, which man, if Yuki just continues to be a singular talent in the sense that I don't know anybody who's voluntarily a peroni drinker by choice. No, that's not true. It's usually, it's not a default beer. I, I, yeah, okay, well, I know people that like will dabble in, in peroni, but you're right. It's not their default beer. So I, I guess you're, you're, our producer Harry is saying I love peroni. So I guess, I guess, yeah, but you don't, that's not. Your guys from Michigan, when I, when I'm, when you're, when it's hot and you're like, hmm, what a nice cold beer is the first thought, bam, Italian beer. No, it is absolutely not your first thought. Uh, okay. Well, this is fun. So let's off the top of my head, Charlotte Claire, his favorite beer, probably a Merlot, um, probably a, a, a rosé, perhaps something from the south of France. Yeah. I actually, I actually can't think of, uh, can't think of a Charlotte Claire beer. Can you know, it's got to be like, it's got to be rosé. My answer for Charlotte Claire's favorite beer is no, just no, uh, let's see. He's ever, if he's ever posted about a favorite beer. Mm. I don't see one. I, I do know Max Verstappen has been in those like zero ABB Heineken commercials. Yeah. He knows the baby, you can drive by a car, but I doubt he, I don't think he drinks Heineken's. I don't think he drinks anything. I think he runs on like whatever fuel they put in his car. Yeah. Gamer. He runs on gamer fuel. Right. Right. He runs on like now. He runs on like the whole red gamer fuel. Yeah. Monster Enter. Zero. Zero. Right. Just, you know, gotta, gotta stay slim for the, for the, the cockpit. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. I'm going to go and say Fernando Alonso Spanish as hell. He's probably an Australia Galicia drinker. Mm. Right. I think he's straight Australia. I believe that Daniel Ricardo, wherever he is, is a Bud Light guy, even if he doesn't like it, because he's just like, that's what Americans drink. So he's, he's straight Bud Light. He, but he drank paps for a while because he thought that that was like a more indie version. And then he realized that it's actually like, you know, it's, it's widely distributed. We're big. He had, he had a craft beer moment. I think at some point. Yeah. We're being, we're being informed, by the way, Sharla Clare partners with her. Roni. Yes. He, he, he partners. That tracks. But I don't think he, I don't think he likes them. There's a picture of him drinking beer and I have to say, if we can add it later, I want you to see it because not the most natural beer drinking pose looks like somebody who has seen someone drinking beer in a relaxed manner and is doing it, but is not quite carrying it off. So like the, the honest truth is that a lot of athletes just don't drink anything because they're like, I can't put this garbage into my body. And like every calorie that I intake has to be for a purpose and there's no more empty calorie than the calorie of a beer. So totally speculating here, but it would be, it would be safe to assume that most of these guys, not big beer drinkers, no, not big beer drinkers. Okay, for the one F one driver, I know who definitely enjoyed a beer from time to time. And that would be the now retired Kimi Reichen and Kimi Reichen and only because we saw him at the F one awards, the F one post season awards, obviously very relaxed and in need of hydration, water, you know, who loves beer, Valterie probably loves beer. We should ask him about it. If we ever have him back on the show, I think Valterie, I'm going to say any English driver, at least craves a beer. Leckenberg, I think probably likes his beer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, the further north you are, the more likely you are to enjoy beer stealthy stealth beer, enjoy a joke on you. I bet joke on you enjoys a nice jing dao from time to time. They probably can't even tell us what beers they actually like because there's so many sponsorships in F one. So it's true. We really get to the bottom of it. That's true. Really, this is again, we're nudging F one closer to NASCAR territory where I know all of the products you consume because you said all of them the minute you got out of the car. That's really, that's really what I want. Liberty media continue to Americanize the sport to the point where Louis Hamilton steps out and goes five really like to thank UPS Coca Cola and goodies headache powder for Thank you, Home Depot. Thank you Home Depot. Couldn't have done it without you. Walmart. Yeah. The Mercedes Benz racing machine was fast today. Sorry. We'll be Ferrari. This says should American fans be upset about Andrade and Dreddy Cadillac being Sean while Renault Alpin continues to be a disaster in the same vein as what we were just talking about. I mean, we're you're missing out on so many amazing American sponsorship opportunities on that car. So yes, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that would be the only reason. I will also reiterate my stance that American fans and F1 don't care about seeing America and the thing because it's F1 you weren't following it because it was a super American thing anyway, really like I don't think if you can't get excited about an American driver, which we didn't get excited about an American driver, how are you going to get excited about American management? Because you know, who doesn't like American management Americans, what's going to make you like? Oh, it's American capital. Oh, we love American capital. It's been so good to us. No, your primary opponent as an American is the capital class. Right? It's your boss. This is if you want something that works, if you want us to root against somebody, find a man, an American who is persecuted and oppressed by his own management. This is you want to set up Monday night raw, but in an F1 form, right? Because remember, Stone Cold Steve Austin every Monday came out and he kicked his boss's ass. Right? And he'd come out and Vince McMahon would go, oh, Stone Cold, don't do that. He'd be like, are you going to hell? And then he'd beat him up. We need a driver like that. That's what we can root for. We need somebody who's going to fight the forces that we feel every day in our life, right? I mean, if we're going to go the wrestling route, doesn't it feel like then perhaps this Andretti denial is all part of a massive PR campaign to get people to be like, what the fuck? I want Andretti to be in F1 and now they're going against the big guy, Liberty Media, and the Department of Justice is involved. So this is how you get Americans to join the bad wagon and be like, hey, we want our American thing in there. We didn't really care before, except for like big Andretti fans probably. Now we care because we're fighting the man. This is, this is where Stefano Domenicali comes out and it's like, you're suspended. Andretti is like, you're suspended. Yeah. And then they wrestle. And then they, yeah, then they wrestle and Will Buxton goes wrestling, they're closed off and they're in like leotards. Yeah. And Will Buxton says wrestling is when two men grapple for power and over each other in a combat situation. Thank you, Will Buxton. I like that conspiracy theory, Spencer. That's not, not the worst conspiracy to answer the question, earnestly. If you are upset about it, you're entitled to that because I mean, I think in general fans want more teams in sport. Is that fair? Like, if you just were like, hey, wouldn't it be cool if there were like 12 teams? Most people would be like, yeah, more cars, more teams, like that, more drivers to root for, more excitement on the track, et cetera. But I don't think like you, if you're not already upset, I don't think you should be like looking for a reason to be upset. Yeah. By the way, I think we have a natural pivot point here. So I'm going to take it. One thing we wanted to do this week is review in a news free week prior to the Azerbaijan Grand Prix in Baku. We wanted to review a couple of conspiracy theories because F1 conspiracy theories are very fun. I would like to present three of them to you. Two of them I found on the internet and are fascinating. One of them I have made up. So I'm going to, we're going to play a little game. Your truth's in a lie. Got it. And I believe you have the same for me. You're going to present me with some conspiracy theories as well. Mine. Two of them are, I don't want to call them real conspiracy theories, but they're ones that I did not generate and that are held by at least more than one F1 fan. And then one of them I just flagrantly made up. So it's the even more conspiracy, conspiratorial conspiracy theory because I only made it. All right. Are you ready? Yeah. One. Flavio Britore only joined Alpene so he could hide out in France while some charges got worked out in Italy, the latest set of charges that Flavio Britore has been around. Number two, Hirelli gave Williams some fancy super tires prior to the 2012 Spanish GP and helped Pastor Maldonado win as a gift to an aging Sir Frank Williams and that the fire after the race that destroyed the Williams paddock was in fact intentional and was designed to burn the evidence that this ever happened. Okay. And there was a massive fire. So that would line up three. The reason Red Bull was so dominant, not like 2021, 22, 24 run is because they use the Aston Martin Valkyrie, which they were involved in the engineering of as a test vehicle for all that ground effect arrow that helped Max for a step and dominate so completely. Huh. So you're telling me two of these are fan theories that you found on the internet, but one of them you made up on your own? Yes. So would you like me to guess which one I think you made up on your own? Yes. The one about Flavio Britore. You know me well. Yes. The other two are like pretty, pretty, at least widely held enough to be mentioned multiple times. What I'll say about the Williams conspiracy theory is that any time there's a fire and look, I know it's a garage and I know that there's like flammable objects in it, but any time there's a fire after something big happens, I'm always like, hmm. It's like the Simone Biles meme. It's just like you're just like, hmm, and your ears perk up and you're intrigued because fires are, they're very, very scary and they're very bad and they destroy a lot of things in the process of burning. And perhaps those things are evidence of a massive conspiracy. Yeah. By the way, like eight, like seven or eight people went to the hospital for as a result of this fire, like there were injuries. So you know, your conspiracy theory is taken as legitimately as any other, but I would also point out that it's a real sloppy way to do your business. Yeah. That's a lot of collateral damage. That's a lot of collateral damage. You know, to all for Sir Frank, I don't know about that. Well, yeah, I mean, it's a great point. Four team personnel were taken injured and taken to the medical center. Yeah, that's, that, that checks out as a solid F1 fan theory. I think the Aston Martin Valkyrie one is one where I don't have enough technical expertise to be like, no, that's not how this works. So like I'll just take it, like I'll, I'll just, yeah, like that's probably what happened. Sure. Yeah. I thought it's no reason. Yeah. Right. You're like, no, I'm not smart enough to disprove the engineering there. Go right ahead. Right. Exactly. As far as Flavio Briatori goes, we should say allegations. Of course, we don't, we don't know what, what's going on there, but would France be a better place to hide out than Italy? Like from a legal standpoint, aren't they all kind of connected? You know, one would think. But a lot of people end up in the south of France for reasons, for reasons. So I'm just following a well-worn historical path here. Fair enough. I mean, in that vein, I read a long story yesterday. This is one of the many F1 conspiracy theories that I found while searching around on the internet. Are you familiar with the 2004 Monaco Grand Prix? Not entirely. No, not off the top of my head. I would have to look it up. So this is according to GQ Australia. There was a Oceans 12 promotional stunt at the 2004 Monaco Grand Prix in which over $400,000 worth of diamonds were put on the noses of two F1 cars, two Jaguars cars, to promote Oceans 12, or I guess Oceans 11. I should probably get that straight. Both Oceans films, by the way, definitely hold up. I highly recommend if you're bored later this weekend. I agree. Worth a re-watch. However, this was a stunt to be like, look, a diamond. This is a heist movie. Christian Klein was driving around Monte Carlo with one of these diamonds strapped to his front wing, and he crashed his car. And the diamond went missing, and no one could ever find it. And a lot of fans think, hey, this was a movie about a heist. This obviously-- the diamonds never existed. These were fake diamonds. These diamonds aren't real. There was never a diamond to begin with, even though they're obviously photos of the diamonds, et cetera. And people have done some deep dive investigative work on this, but the prevailing theory from a lot of fans is like, there were no diamonds, all right? They would never be anyone that's stupid to put a diamond on an F1 car, crashable F1 car. So that's where I posit to you a theory. Perhaps there was a diamond, after all. Perhaps the diamond was found. Perhaps the person that found the diamond was someone who allegedly had ties to the precious gem industry, we should say. Perhaps that person also happened to invest a large sum of money into a company called Tesla in 2004, and perhaps that person is now the richest man in the world. My mind is blown. There is nothing linking any of these things, by the way, because this is just the sick mind of Jessica Smitaina at 10.30 last night. We're going to find a picture of the dude reaching over the wall, right? By the way, not naming names for a dude. What's the word I'm looking for? Litigation. The link was too strong. I was like, looking up last night, I'm like, what companies were founded in 2004 with a price. Oh my God. $500,000 worth of cash. I love it. I love it. But I love all conspiracy theories. It's a great conspiracy theory. Yeah. Well, not all of them, but the ones that are light-hearted and don't involve. The ones that are light-hearted. Human lives. Yes. And don't involve actual people's lives. I'm a big fan of all Formula One conspiracy theories that don't hurt people there. That won't get us through. Well said. There's a potentially like real, I wouldn't even call this a conspiracy theory, but like a, a actual situation in F1 with a lot of smoke around it involving Oscar P. Astrid Spencer. And the theory that there's perhaps something in his claws with McLaren stating that he would not be treated differently or less than his, you know, his teammate at McLaren and therefore would not be subject to team orders if that was something that McLaren decided to do. And that perhaps is the reason why McLaren has not been treating Oscar and Lando differently despite the fact that Lando has a better shot at winning the driver's championship. So. I love. Do you believe that? Is that a conspiracy theory? Do you think that's just actually happening? I think it was just actually happening, you know, that's, or how's this? Even if it's not in the contract, that's what's happening, right? That's just, I, you know, people are bad at communicating and people are bad at conflict. And if you said, well, how could you get through all of this with all of this money on the line with people not actually hashing out their differences? I would say, because it happens at every level without a tremendous amount of money on the line. Why would the money change anything? Like, that's it. We're talking about dudes talking and acknowledging problems. Please. I know people who have been friends for 30 years, who have grudges that are 30 years old. And do you know what they do? They don't talk about them. So why, why, why would we expect these two kids to figure it out, right? Why would we expect Zach Brown? They're probably just like, no, we're fine, we're fine. I've heard that if you're in any sort of conflict, conflict, it's better just to never talk about it. And then to just pretend like it didn't happen. Ah, I know you're raised in the Midwest. That way. It's called being Catholic. Oh, we were fine. You just bottled that up. The pain goes in here, Jess. The pain goes in here. Spencer, anyways, this has been a fun sort of mishmash of a F1 episode of a DNF episode, I should say. We'll be back next week. As always, thanks for listening. Tell your friends. Like, subscribe, follow, tweet, rate, review. There's a nice video of me hiccuping on the social channels. I'm going to check that out from a couple of weeks ago. Spencer, anything else where we sign up? We will see you in Baku. Bye. (inhales deeply) [BLANK_AUDIO]