I don't rise, 'cause baby court is back in session. This is season two. He's a real case, he's with real money on the line. He can go to hell, I'm not paying him nothing. She butchered my dog, Tierka. In my defense, he literally made this lady dog by race. He black in the face and white on that. (audience laughing) Your job is to be funny, and my job is to be funnier. Ooh, wait a minute, can you run that back? (laughing) That's it, that's it. You and your mama look like Snoop Dogg at two different ages. (audience laughing) He a chef, they cook nuggets. Yes. Does he have to ask people if they have nut allergies? (laughing) (upbeat music) What type of drugs you on? We gon' find out, though. Don't play with me, play the radio. I am Jack. I object to that caution tape outfit. Oh, shit. (laughing) (upbeat music) I'm getting my money back to that. How you know my verdict? (upbeat music) Y'all gon' miss 'em out and find out. For real, look, I tried. Y'all may have started, but I'm gon' settle it. Watch season two of "Miss Pat Settles" at starting July 31st on Wednesday nights at 10 p.m. Eastern on BET. Hey, it's white boy Chris. If the Pat Downs ever made you laugh, then join our Patreon and support us. Get bonus content, a t-shirt, or an autographed copy of "Rabbit, Miss Pat's Autobiography." Visit misspatcomedy.com for the link to the Patreon and while you're there, join our Facebook group. - Well, I can tell another episode of the Pat Downs I'm here 'cause we got guests today, baby. We got, I didn't do this, we got Chris, we got Dion, we got Trent, we got Garyanna, and we talking about some real shit. We talking about some real shit. We're letting Chris have it from the back. - Do you remember what we talked about? - No. (laughing) - What is real? - We talked about Trump's comments on-- - Oh, we're talking about some real shit. - Trent wanted to know, how do we determine if we're black? That is not who wanted to know. - Chris wanted to know. - I wanted to know, yeah. - I was trying to figure it out. - You said Trent wanted to know. - I say Chris wanted to know. - You said Trent wanted to know. - Edit it. - Oh, Chris wanted to know, cut that out. - Edit it, put Chris there. (laughing) - Because Chris wanted to know, 'cause Chris wanted to know, when do we know we black in America? You better get up, get out and turn into this podcast. This fat spit, the true spit, and the real fat. Nothing but the ugly, classy, at the same time. That got the flavor, these are not the same last. That's the politics, she been on the real grind. It could be pretty with ugly, at the same time. Just turn in, put your lock on the spin down. Ain't no need for the weight and turn it up now. What you talking about? It's real though, it cut the game. You getting on playing like Nintendo. ♪ You wait to talk ♪ ♪ Turn it up, nothing but the ugly ♪ ♪ Straight off the tie ♪ ♪ Everything she say, you know it funny ♪ ♪ Full blast, this is taste of the future ♪ ♪ Listen all your alpha, no your desktop computer ♪ ♪ Siri, tweet it ♪ ♪ Ain't no way to beat it ♪ ♪ Nothing but the ugly ♪ ♪ Turn it up, it's over, delete it ♪ - Welcome to another episode of The Pad Down. We're here with my co-host Chris Spangalang, Dion Curry. - What's up y'all? - And we got two fucking guests today. That's how we do it. We got two guests. Give it up for Trenton. - Whoo! - And we got, guess who we got? Y'all, we got Gary Yatta. - That's pretty good. - Which is rad. - Stop, Billy. - Yeah. - Is he me? - We hardly get high ass on this podcast. We so happy you up today, Gary. So you'll asleep. - I'm up every single day. Don't ever do that to me. You're so disrespectful. Why would you start that podcast and try to disrespect me? Just 'cause I don't wake up at 4 a.m. like you, because I don't have that sleep at me at a stop my heart. Okay, I wake up every single day at 10 o'clock, like a good respect. - How does it stop it? - She found, she saw a life plan for her life. - What's it? - That's your sleep apnea. - I got no fucking sleep apnea. - Okay, sure. - I have something called menopause. - And it paused your heart and you're asleep. (laughing) - Can't you see my fucking name? - Gary, that was so funny. Get on my fucking nerves. - You know, you get on my nerves. You always make an assumption. You know what? That's what they say about people soon. They die early. - Did you not mind your bidding then? - Mm-hmm. - You heard that before drink. - I never heard that. - Yeah, you got a grandma, but she ever told you that bullshit. - No, she ain't telling me that. - I'm watching it. - She said the first three letters of a soon is what you make of yourself when you do a soon. - Mm, amen, amen, ass. (laughing) - Make an ass of you. - You make an ass of yourself when you're a soon. - That's what my daddy said. - Oh, you ain't got no grandma, so I know that ain't what your grandma said. - I do have a grandma. Not your mama. But my grandma. - No, take her grandma. - I do have a grandma. - Oh, I forgot you did have one grandma. - Yes, I did. Don't ever do that to me. - You didn't meet my mom. - I'm happy to have mine. - Well, fuck. - She didn't do a great job. Across the board. (laughing) Bad, bad, bad. I hate a hoeing. - She raised two comedians. - Ooh, oh. (laughing) - That was a good one. That was a good one. - So, we asked, why did you turn over and get around? It came out of the bedroom because I don't know why, but I'm glad to have you here. And what we were talking about, what were we going to talk about? - So I had a question because-- - Thank you. - All right. I have a lot of right wing Twitter, all right? So I don't oftentimes know what's real because-- - I wanted to know in this Twitter. - The algorithm knows you. - Thank you, yeah. And so Trump said at the National Association of Black Journalists that Kamala became black, all right? And this was based on a CNN interview that was done where this guy in a Tupac shirt shows up, he's a white reporter shows up to a black barbershop and asks if Kamala's black and the guys at the barbershop said, "I don't think so, I don't know." And so Trump kind of came out of that, but then I saw the conversation on black Instagram accounts in the comments of-- - Turn my headphone on. - Largely black accounts having that conversation of like her ethnicity, and then obviously it was a whole conversation. And I don't quite understand-- - My headphones ain't on. - What it means to be black is like that a cultural thing, is that a skin color thing, like growing up, it was always like, you're just black if you're black. So this whole conversation I think has been kind of confusing and I thought it'd be interesting to hear you all discuss it for listeners who don't have any conversation. - But before we discuss it, how do you feel about it? - Like I think doing this podcast, I didn't realize the, like black as a culture. - Oh, you didn't think we had culture, continue. - Well, I do like B.T. existed. (all laughing) - Tyler Perry, all you holes got. - But Gary, you went to the same high school as me. - Yeah, if I did. - And when I was in high school, we had one girl who had a white mom and a black dad. Like that was the, the extent of the ethnicity. So I didn't like have-- - Monkey light. - Like there was rap music and things. - What was this? - I need headphones, I can't hear anything. (all laughing) - What did you wait for center? - I said monkey light. - Oh my gosh, oh my gosh. - All right, I gotta go. - Oh my gosh. - No you don't, that's Gary. - No, but I think to me, if you're in the position of like a suburban white person that doesn't have any interaction with black friends, you just sort of look at hip hop and maybe Spike Lee movies and sort of like, that is your access to black culture or BET. But it's not as-- - Let me stop you right there. That's not your access. You have access to the history of black people in America. You only see BET because that's what you look for. So I just wanna make that distinction. You have access to all of the history of black people up until this moment. What you choose to do with it is on you. - So, but doing this podcast and having a lot of black friends now and being a participant in the show. - Congrats on your friends. - Yes, I've got many black friends now. You see the richness and the depth of black culture and you appreciate things a lot more. And so it's interesting to me just to see this conversation with this new lens and trying to understand it but also not understanding. Is this just right-wing propaganda that everybody's divided about her race and all this stuff? Or is this an actual conversation that goes on in the black community that you're not really aware of? - I'm gonna start and I know you're, everybody's gonna say we're the only race in this world. - Don't say that. - Yes, we are. - I hate when people start off with the, we're the only race. You know, all the races, not all of them, but quite a few. - And one race is humans. - Yes, it's human. - Black is the color of your skin labeled by a government entity. - We're the only people that you cannot change. Whatever we mix with, you become us. Am I right? - I think I'm a testament to that, right, Miss Pat? - No. (laughs) Ain't nobody took, ain't nobody gave you no put to it. - I guess what I'm saying is that you were on Twitter and you saw all this interaction. What is your Twitter say to combat that? Because now you have new lenses, now you see through it, that you see the culture differently. What is your Twitter say to combat some of the things that the other people are saying? - You're not gonna argue with those craziest people. - I'm saying, like, if you're honest-- - No, you can have his own mindset. - He wouldn't have logged or the shade room and you read the comments through the stuff to try and understand it, like-- - That's the worst of our people right there. - I don't know. - And the shade room comment-- - Sex and red is not our president, she does not speak for us. (laughs) She made good music. - She made good music, shout out to Sex and red. - Mm-hmm. - I would say it's a black woman here in America. When I look at-- - Kamala. - Kamala. - Like Kamala. - Like Kamala. - Kamala. - Like Kamala. - We see a black woman. - Right. - You know, I never look at biracial people mixed with something else up. You know, I don't say you're blacking your agent. Tigerwood is black to me. My fucking Kamala hair is black to me. - And they treated him like that because you think that man kills somebody. He'll just cheat on his wife a couple of times. But the way they had it planned, every week there was a new blonde white woman, you thought he'd kill people. - So, I mean, I think it's a black community. We don't see the mixture, we just see black. I know for me, that's what I say. - Yeah, but across the, like, that's not the overarching thought for a lot of black people. Some black people do believe that like, black is just like mama daddy black, grandma grandpa black. Like, this is black, probably all of us on this side. And then like, when you become mixed because you, some of the times like you live outside of what is considered like a black community, then now you're not black anymore. - That's something that it's like you, she can't have both identities and be proud of both identities. It's like, that's what Trump is implying is she can't be one, she can't be all things. - But she doesn't go out to anybody else's ethnicity when they do it. - Of course. - It's only like people that's black, like, Obama, he want him to produce birth certificates and all that stuff. Why is that important in this image? - You don't gotta prove our black-- - Because it's a racist. - Yeah, we can, there's-- - So you do agree he is a racist. - Oh yeah, absolutely. - You don't have to prove your blackness to anybody. - Anybody, they live it. - You don't have to prove no matter what race you are to anybody, you really don't. So, if you feel like you're black on the inside, she went to HBCU's, she feels like she black, then that is what she is. - Well, let me ask you something, Gary. - You was raising a predominant white neighborhood. Did you feel white? - No. They made sure I didn't feel white. You moved me to a town full of all racist people. I never felt white. - I think the perfect-- - You said it. They made sure I didn't feel that way. And I think that's been the policy of America is to make sure that you know-- - You know you're white. - You ain't one of us. - And you know your place. - Yeah, huh? - So, whenever you get a black American trying to assimilate into American culture, you have to denigorize them. You take away everything that makes them black culturally in order for them to fit into the American box. - So, no fairness. You can't get loud. You can't play Spade. You can't-- - Or you just name me yourself? - You can't eat neck bones, ham-hot. - I'd ask Dionne, like, what-- describe that for me, because what does that mean? - So, basically, you have to-- - Shucking job, you have to be like the Republican-- - Tim Scott, Tim Scott, Tim Scott, Tim Scott-- - That guy or the big tall, yellin' angry. Black people, we gotta get our shit to the guy from South Carolina, I think it is, the lieutenant governor. Robinson, what's his name? Big tall black dude. - I don't know who that is. - It's like you gotta sell out your people in order for this other group of people to see you as one of them. That's what being American means to white America. - Black people, if you go over there and you try to assimilate and be a part of their society, they're going to strip you of everything that you were before, so that you can be that. - I mean, the plot of "Get Out" is you talk about black culture, black culture is American culture 'cause we're Americans, but you put this label on it, not you specifically, but you put this label on it as black culture instead of just American culture, well then I ask you, what's American culture outside of black culture? - Stadium hot dogs. - Right, that's all you got. - So if you're having a barbecue and all you're making is stadium hot dogs, and then you go to a black barbecue and they got ribs and all the other fixings and stuff, it's like, well is that not American too? No, that's black American. So you have to give up the ribs and go get the hot dogs if you want to be considered American. And every black person that's born in this country knows the second you go over there, you cannot come back. 'Cause you killed yourself, you literally killed you. You told the people who raised you that they weren't good enough, and that I have to ascend and assimilate into an American culture that sees me not as a black American, but just as American. You have to kill your blackness. That's why we can't stand Candace Owens, we can't stand Tim Scott 'cause they killed their blackness in order to fit in with people who are always going to see them as black people, regardless of the quote unquote, American culture they shot a spouse. No matter how well you talk, Vivik Ram Swami, what did Ann Coulter say to him? You're great, but you're not white, so you're not gonna win. And that's the bottom line. Who? Ann Coulter said that to the rom Swami. There was a guy who wasn't, he looked a little bit like Vivik Ram Swami, he went to the RNC and was taking pictures with all these people. They thought it was Vivik until he tried to get up on stage in secret services like wearing credentials, and then they threw him out. No, it's a real, like in the Republican party back in like 20 years ago when I was in it, I had a friend who was a black Republican and people would come up to him at the convention and say, you know, thank you so much for being here, we need more of you here. And he was just like, I guess I'll go tell the rest of him at the black meeting that we can bubble, like it's just, it's that attitude of, they think they're being inclusive, but they're coming across as like, just totally racist. - Because it's not inclusive. - You have to give up who you are in order to be included into what they think you are. - Yeah. - And black people don't play that shit. You are either always black or you go over there, but you can't bring your ass back. - You know, having you say the thing. - Stacey Dash, what's the other girl? - Who? - Who's playing, she's Omarosa? They try to come back, we're not having that shit. No, y'all went over there, you fucked around and Mr. Powell, hey, well who just went over there? Perhaps. - What's the name? - Amber Rose. - Amber Rose. - I find it interesting that like the concept of over there, like is that just adopting Republican politics? Is that what you mean? - No, because, and also I would like to speak on Amber Rose. Amber Rose does not see herself as being a black woman. She will tell you up and down, up and down that she is not black. So to sit here and then be like, this is the problem with the black community. How do you know what our problem is when you Amber Rose owns considered yourself black? Even though you came up and became popular in black spaces, you dated one of our most famous black men. You matter of fact, two of them had babies by one, a baby by one of them. You've always dibbled and dabbled in blackness, but now you're not black and so that's crazy to me. - You need to come up but then once you get in a position where you could actually help people. - I'm almost like J-Lo. - What? - But J-Lo started dating Puff Daddy. - J-Lo started dating Puff Daddy, it made the black community love her. We immediately, I don't know if J-Lo trained. I mean, come on now. We, yeah, that's what made J-Lo pop in the black community when Puff Daddy gave her that new role. - I think her ass made her popular in the black community. - Well, she had an ass like us, probably both. Let me, when I first heard of J-Lo, no lie, I had never, I hadn't even seen the Selena movie. When the first time I ever heard of Jennifer Lopez is when she was dating Puff Daddy. - She on in Living Color, but she was an answer. - Yeah, she was a dancer. - But no one looks at the dance scene. - Nobody paid her any attention on Living Color. - We, you know-- - She didn't have any speaking parts either. - And she just was a dancer. So we was like, okay, be honest with you back. And I was like, okay, that white girl can dance. Didn't even realize she was fucking Hispanic. - So J-Lo was white. - When I was a little girl, everybody was white. - I thought America for her was black growing up. I used to see her stuff, America for her, she's an actor. She was on "Elegly Betty." I thought, okay, we kind of the same. I thought she was black. 'Cause then I went to like a black school, I went to school with black and white people. I didn't see a lot of Latinos. So I said, oh, she's is black. Oh, buddy. And then they started speaking Spanish. I said, hey, what's this? - And you gotta remember, I'm 52. So the Hispanic population wasn't big, like it is now in America. We didn't see a lot of, the first real Mexican I ever really saw. Well, the first Mexican I ever really knew that was a Mexican was a show called Chips. Mema Chips, the police out. So you loved him because he was, you know, Chips was fucking Hispanic. But then when I saw a real Mexican, like interact with black people, well, my cousin used to sell him pussy and she got pregnant by him and had three kids. - It's like in the '90s, it's John Leguizamo everywhere. - Yeah. - Yeah, so I didn't know any-- - And then you gotta be careful with that too, because the Mexicans and Latinos, all of them, they see themselves in different lights. - They do. - 'Cause they could all come from different countries, different cultures. - It's like, we're not Africans, we're Africans American, because we always say we the ones that are cold. - So back to my question of like going over there, is it a political thing? Is it-- - It's a, it's a idea, I think it's like a, you know, like I've ever heard of a French fan in book, like a black-skinned white mask, and the idea that black people have to wear a white mask to be able to succeed in society, you know, co-swishing in that idea. Okay, it's like keeping the mask on forever. So at a certain point, you've just become that, like that is you now, like it's, instead of like wearing this outside, just to please white people so you can get through your day and do whatever you need to do in your life, you've ingrained that into your spirit, into your soul. So that's just you now and it's like a cultural, it's a cultural and ideological shift, because I think we're all people sure, but like how black American people, and how black people, even from the diaspora, see things in the world, white people might never ever see it that way. And you can spend time with black people, you can talk to black people, you still won't get it because it's like, it's something that we live in, okay? Just like a gay person can tell you their experience in life, but you don't get it completely because you're not gay. So yeah, or a woman or anybody who lives in a marginalized, in a marginalized perspective in life. So I think it's an ideological shift and like a spiritual shift, and once you go there, even if you do come back around, I just don't believe you, because I'm like, you were so fine selling a part of yourself to be a part of something that I don't think you're real. I think inherently your heart is black now. It's cool. - I wanna say that even in Hollywood, to me, the biggest fear for me going to Hollywood is to not be who I am. I'm just, I don't know how to be nothing else. I didn't go to Hollywood as an actor. I went to Hollywood as a comedian, and I was, one of the things I always thought, they always thought they wanted me to be this goofy ass fat girl, 'cause that's what they turn them to. They turn them, "Oh, I'm so fat, and I'm so happy." And I remember being in a meeting with, I'm the only black person sitting there with, that was time with Lee Daniel. And my manager, and I said, "What I will not be." And that was a risk, is the typical fat girl. I'm not gonna hit the cop with it. You're not gonna hit me in my face with no pie. You're not gonna make fat jokes about me. And we're not gonna create a show like that. And, and. - Can I ask you, why did they make big girls be the pie faced people? Do you know why that happened? - I think, I don't know why that happened. I think it's to make people comfortable, to make us say, "Oh, you're fat, but you're so lovely." Like, I see fat comedians, and they're like, "Oh, that me." And I'm like, "Come on, bitch." I mean, I'm fat. I'm fat. But, you know, we all see-- - You're not fat, you have a long truth. - Well, whatever, we all see issues with ourselves. I don't like being fat on fat because I like to eat it on fucking lazy. - So, playing into stereotypes as opposed to finding your own voice. Like, very little has changed about you in the last five years as opposed to like-- - It's not about her finding her own voice. It's about people not being comfortable because they haven't had access to her voice. Because every person that looked like her was getting hit in the face with a pie, because they have focus groups to go, "We just don't think our audience is really gonna appreciate that type of perspective." So, why don't we bring in some more people who haven't for universal appeal? And that's what happens. - And I think, like, and I'm a good, a prime example, my show, which is like, to me, the realest black show we ever had on TV. And they gave me hell when this show first came out. And my biggest fear is somebody white is gonna come and create this same show. And somebody white is gonna create this same show. And they're in up somewhere on CBS, NBC. You know, a bigger network. Wherever, when I came out with the show, "Oh my God, you talking like that? Oh my God, we can't accept stuff like that." Because you don't want them to boderic your show, where she put braids in and all of a sudden it's a rage. But you already had braids and you was already doing it. But then they brought in boderic and all of a sudden, "Oh my God, it's the most--" - That's actually the same thing I have with "Living Single" because like the guy who created friends was like, they asked him, like, what kind of show would you wanna have on TV? He was like, I would like a show like "Living Single." And then you know it's friends. And they paid off the shows on TV. And they paid 'em all. - And they paid 'em all. - And they have all the reruns. - And you know why? Because our focus group says that this has more universal. They can sell more bullshit with white people than they can hold black people. Because the majority of white people have zero interaction on the day to day with regular ass blacks. - So I can pull this up if I go so far back in my old email. So when I first wrote the book, when we first wrote the book, "Rabbit," it was heavily on what I had been through in life with my first kid's father. The abuse, it told a nitty gritty story. I'll never forget this shit. We spent a year and a half writing it. And she sent it back because I was supposed to get a payment. I was ready to whoop that lady ass. Like a long story, all I think about was the money in it. 'Cause I had to open up so much of me to tell that story. And I cried, me and Janine cried. And I told secrets that I thought I would take to my grave. And some stuff I took back out of the book. We wrote this. And the lady who was over the book said, "This will make white women uncomfortable." I swear my hand to God. She said, "Thought in a trash and start over. "We need more funny because you don't want to make "white America cry." 'Cause if this is what she told me, she said 'cause if white America cry, they ain't gonna tell nobody about the book. So we went back and rewrote the book "Rabbit" to make. And it's still gritty, but it's enough gritty that white America could shed a few tears and not to say, "Huh, to think about "all the shit black America have done." One of the biggest thing I, I mean, all the shit that white America have done to the black culture, one of the biggest things I got out of that book were white women e-mailing me, a finding me on a thing. It lived in Atlanta and say I had, I lived in Marietta and I had no idea this was going on. - Yeah, I mean, I knew you tangentially. We'd run into each other at Bob and Tom, but I read it because you came on Bob and Tom. And it was like a light bulb for me. It made me interested in your story and you and I was fascinated by it. - And what's funny is that's kind of now you can't sell a memoir if there's not that kind of grit and overcoming, right? It has changed because there's an appetite more for these kind of stories of like, "Hey, tell me the truth." - That's what was shocking to me the whole, that's why I never really wanted to act because I was so scared of they was gonna strip me of who I was and I like who I am. I don't give a fuck about having nine degrees. I think I've made the Americans mistake. I made mistakes in my life. I've done wrong in my life, but I also had four kids where one of them graduated from college several times and everybody got something that I still wish I had to this day, which was a fucking high school diploma. Each one of my kids went to prom that probably didn't want to go, but I asked them to go for me. So I never got a chance to experience prom myself, but I was able to live it each time I picked out a dress or I picked out a suit or I chose a car. That's what my kids did for me. And that's what I was scared that I was gonna lose, that I had to go up here and talk proper or be something that I'm not. I don't know how to be that. And that's Hollywood scared the fuck out of me. I remember talking to Gary and I said, "I don't want to be famous." And he said, "Why?" I said, "Because I really thought, "I really thought I was too stupid "and I was not gonna be able to hold a conversation "with white America. "I thought I was gonna go into these meetings "and they was gonna fucking belittle me. "I thought they was gonna see the uneducated "Afe Gray little black girl in the room "with a whole bunch of educated white people." That was my fear. That's why I didn't want to fight. - How did you get over that fear though? - She learned they the same. They the same? You know, I don't think they're the same. - She's not unintelligent. She don't have paper backing up her intelligence, but she ain't stupid. And that's what it is. You get these people who think, "Oh, I've got nine degrees. "All of a sudden I'm smarter than the next person." Like, no, it just shows that you did more work academically than I did, that you can prove. It doesn't mean you're smarter than me. It doesn't mean that I'm unintelligent 'cause I don't have this shit. It just means that you did more work academically. - You understand how somebody can feel like that though, right? - Yes. - And that's where being raised proper comes along because if you know in your heart that we're all humans. - But if you're not raised properly. - Well, well, the way I got over it, the way I got over it is I had these conversations. I used to tell a bit about it. And you know, my momma instilled this shit into me, you know, that I wasn't shit. And then I'd go off into the world. And you know, you get, I started to, one of the things I started to do was surround myself around educated people because I know I didn't speak the correct language. And I still don't now. I don't really give a fuck about it. I just didn't want people to think I was stupid and dumb. When I had already raised two kids by the time I was 15 and my kids was not headed to where I went to. So, you know, having that conversation with my husband and he said, and he just told me when they said, "Everybody's the same." Just because a person is more educated than you don't mean that they're smarter than you. And I look around now, I'm here with an eighth grade education and I made more money than all of my friends who got fucking degrees. - Amen. - And I know that I'm not as dumb as I was taught that I was dumb. And I know I can hold a conversation. I remember the biggest thing, one of the biggest, coming up in this world of entertainment, I had to go do an interview with Joe Rogan. And I heard Joe Rogan was so smart. And I was like, I really. - I think Joe Rogan is so dense, it's kind of crazy. - But I was so scared to have a conversation with Joe Rogan because I just felt like he was outsmarting me. And I remember getting booked for the interview and I was like, I'm not smart enough to talk to this man. And my inner soul said, well, bring him down to your conversation. You control the conversation. Well, if you bring him into your world, there's nothing else you can do. And I started, and what I loved about talking to Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan talks to everybody on every scales of life. He was able to sit there and have a conversation with somebody totally different from him. Totally different. And not one time did I ever felt like he was putting me down. Not one time did I ever feel like I was uneducated. I was too dumb to have this conversation with almost one of the smartest people. I thought I had to ever sit down with it. Sit down with more people. (laughing) - Moving on. I would say like growing up, growing up and maturing is understanding the complexity of the world and not everything has to fit into these simplistic notions of intelligence or race or whatever, right? Like there's so much complexity to the world. You're so brilliant at so many different things and so intelligent, just because you like may not have this, like I think that paper that says it, I think is probably, again, kind of what you're talking about is like, this is supposedly the white standard of intelligence is that you've achieved this. And because you have not achieved that. - Well, I have a question, 'cause Trent, you're gay. So. - But as you mentioned, okay, go ahead. - That's crazy, I'm gonna be interested. He's also a good person in a great game. - I mean, 'cause I mean, but you, but you, I'm quite sure you felt the same way in situations like I did. I mean, just what, mine was education. I'm quite sure you felt the same way with just sexuality. - I don't know, but I also grew up being told I'm gonna be shit and all of this stuff. But it's what you say about yourself that matters the most, you know what I'm saying? So like you, I surrounded myself with people that could help me grow in certain areas. And when you speak about yourself, I for one get a chance to watch you. Pet, know how to close a deal. Pet, know how to get things done. I told Pet, I said, you have mastered the art of getting exactly what you need done without all the other stuff. You know what I'm saying? I've watched actors and people number one, so who've been in the business forever? Who can't even get a ride to work? (laughing) You know what I'm saying? I mean, I mean, look at the color purple when everybody was having issues with, you know, having to drive themselves and do stuff. Pet, get out here and make it happen because I always say this for myself that God give you something to compete with in this world. It may not be what Pat got, it may not be what you got, but he does not leave you out. He gives you something to compete with and what he gave you was more than a degree could give you. - Yes. - You know what I'm saying? So he took you through certain life experiences that now you know how to negotiate. You know what you ain't gonna take. You know what is fair and what ain't fair. So it all works out in the end and when we judging people by what we think they should be or how they should be, we'd be missing out on good shit. - Go ahead. - Pat knows what she deserves and fights for it. - Yeah. - And it's influenced me a lot. - And I think we can't teach that. - Yeah, no, I mean, I joked in a previous episode of, well, maybe you just haven't been aggressive enough. She was the, she got, I think you got a little defensive, but that's one of the things that I admire most about you and that has taught me. I'm sitting here thinking about like, where am I gonna take my career? And what do I really want to do? What do I want to really fight for as opposed to just sort of going, well, what does anybody have to offer me? What could, where can I fit in? And instead of going, what am I built for? What am I meant to do? And start asking for, and even comes down to like, I went to McDonald's a month ago and the food was horrible and I never, ever would have gone back in and said, you need to redo this. This is horrible 'cause I didn't want to make anybody mad, wouldn't want to upset anybody. And I was like, you know what, I paid money for this and I deserve to have the quality that I expect and it's their job to make me happy. And that is a direct result of me having a conversation in the car of like, what would Pat do? Like, what would Pat ask for herself because she deserves this X, Y, and Z. Like that, I think to me has been like a motivator and I think to a lot of our audience too. - Absolutely, 'cause I always joke with Pat. I said, "Girl, you got something else going on." They just said, her assistant hit me up, Pat needs you in the morning, Pat. I said, "What else is she doing?" But I'm really inspired by it because she does not, her mind doesn't rest. Hey, I got to figure this out, I got to get this done and I got to get this done, you know what I'm saying? So it's an amazing thing to have. - Yeah, I think what you said is like, God built you for something. And instead of being afraid of it, own it and pursue it. - You overcame your cant. You overcame your cant. People tell you you can't do this 'cause you didn't have the paper and it says that you graduated high school, but you overcame that. It was never about whether it was inside of you or not. It's just people, once people meet you and they see the real you, it's like like- - And like that shit Funkin' DeNiva was talking about. - Oh shit, you know what I'm saying? Not that. - What'd she say? - I don't know what she said, I was a very bad person to work with. You know, and I never wanna bring up on the podcast, but when she said that that morning, I was walked in and I was like, I didn't have an attitude, I was playing like that. And when I had that conversation with Jordan, Jordan said, that's why I tell you not to come in and play like that. 'Cause your cast know you're playing, but the co-stars, company don't know. And that really affected me because I know, it didn't really, it rattled me because I know how hard I worked for everybody on that set. I don't give a fuck if you in costume, you in makeup, you in whatever, you in whatever. I just had this whole fight with a production over paying, trending that for some day said it was gonna pay in for 'em. And I said, I'm not gonna let it go. If you don't pay 'em, I'm gonna pay them. I said because you got that kind of money, everybody else don't have that kind of money. And people tell me all the time, well, you the number one, you the star, I don't give a fuck who I am. I know what it is when I want my money. I know what it is not to have somebody fight for you. I walk on that set and I speak to everybody. So for that person to say that about me, what has never been said about me before, I'm like, you don't know how hard I fought for you. When you came on the show, you don't know what I did. I went to Jordan and we made a decision about you to even give you more, but it's okay. People don't know that you're fighting for them, and then they just wanna have a conversation on the internet. It's fine with me. - I'm not aware of what you're talking about, but I know there was a viral video of you being tough on some people, but that's the thing is, what I've noticed in the last five years is yeah, you are tough, but you have, I think, gained a measure of empathy and interacting with people and how you talk to me, like, I was really intimidated back in the day now, I'm just kind of intimidated. - I think, but it comes from you having standards and saying like, here are the standards and here's what you need to meet, and like, hey, you didn't edit that right, you know, it doesn't always feel good, but it is how you get what you want. You have to enforce those standards. - She's just like a big, bad kid sometimes. And she'll throw a tantrum and say, oh, okay, where are you gonna stop? Okay, you're done, so now what do you actually want? And like, once you get down to that, she's just a big, like, if you went to school, you're like the hot cheeto girls, you know, girls who came to school, and they like, cookie monster pajamas ate hot cheetos for breakfast and drunk a monster, that's how she is, exactly, down to the head pad. That's how she comes in. - Let me say this, 'cause you brought up some else, which is V one or three, when we was like, let go from V one or three, people took it as like, I was angry, I was not angry. Let me just say this, I didn't get to say this on the breakfast club. I literally had a two day contract with V one or three. All I had to be there was two days, but I said, I know we can't build a good morning show off of two days. I said, I take the two day contract, 'cause they off of five, but I didn't want to say, I can do five, 'cause I know I can't. I said, but if there are any extra days in there that I can come in, I'm gonna get up out of my bed for three days a week for free, to come into this station to do what we wanted to do. And it's hard, that wasn't my show, but it's hard when you work with somebody who don't have the same work ethic. I went to Big Tigger, and I told him I was leaving in August, and then they filed us in October. That pissed me off, 'cause all you had to do was let me ride out my contract. On top of that, when you working with somebody that don't have your same work ethic, and it's not there, and it's not my show, and I told him, I said, there's a many times it mean, I said, this is the only thing that I'm not number one in. - I work for non-competitive, non-competing radio show, and you would call me all the time and say, what do we gotta do? What if I'll put my own money to this to make this successful, and I'd say, here's what you should think about. - And I feel like that's one of your biggest problems, which is that you put in more effort on things, and people wanna put in on themselves. It's his show, it was not Miss Pat Morning's show, it was Big Tigger Morning's show. If you don't wanna work with her-- - All done, Miss Pat, morning's show sounds nice. - Yeah, but-- - Can I be a co-host? - It's all but like, and I feel like that's across the board with a lot of stuff. Like you pour in to your goofy, ugly son. That's a waste of time, too. - Oh, my God. - Exactly. - You're trying to make me hurt. - And he brought that dog in, and that dog's gonna trip and break a camera. - That dog look like a rat, just like him. - Personally, I'm grateful she takes care of Sad Sacks. - I mean, I just, you know, I try to pour into people. I try to tell people all the time, you know, you don't, I speak to people randomly all the time, because you don't know when somebody just needs somebody to say good morning, somebody to make them feel a little bit better. I always try to pour into whatever I do, I try to give 150%. And when I went to that morning show, and I really wanted to win, and then you gotta work there through a whole 'nother year of contract when the person don't feel the same way. That's why I was so angry, because I'm the person that got up and came to work for you for three days. Easily, easily, for free. And you didn't offer me shit. I mean, you offered to get me fired when you knew the contract was up anyway, and I wasn't gonna come back. All you had to do was let me ride it out. I felt like you was a sneaky, lowdown, dirty, hating piece of shit. - All right, well, let's wrap it up. - Turn it on. - Our calendars, people. And once we learn that, we get better in the world. You're welcome. - Wow. - And we do. And you know, but sometimes you can't, you got me as a person sometimes gonna have to learn how to stop trying to pour into people what I pour into myself, 'cause everybody don't want they cut full. - They don't. - Well, that's it. We're gonna end this podcast. - It's patcomedy.com. - Go to misspatcomedy.com for all the tickets to my tour. I need y'all like a baby knee pimples. So go and get your tickets. - And wipes. You can let the shit stick on sometimes. (laughing) - Thank y'all so much for tuning in to another episode of The Pac Down. Make sure you check out my website at misspatcomedy.com for all of my social media, my tour dates, my book. Make sure you spread the word about my podcast. Please rate and review. Please rate and review and share. Thank y'all so much, y'all. I've been misspat. (upbeat music) (upbeat music)
