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Walking the Dog—Episode 5 (The Light Festival 2024)
"This iHeart Radio Station is brought to you by Vitamin Water." "Popy the dog was keen to come out and I thought I'd use the opportunity today to give you a bit of a special walking the dog. Let's let the girl off." "Pops, there we are. And why is today special? Well today is special because over the weekend I was away up in Kumbria. I was in a beautiful rural location, close to Pika, the village of Pika. And that's near Wirkington on the coast. And the light newspaper had put on a fantastic weekend camp with music and stalls and food and massage and lots of other things. And I've got to say it was utterly wonderful and a huge thank you to all of the light newspaper team for doing what they did because, despite the weather, I'll come on to that. We all had a great time. The UK Colum team went up, we decided to go up from Plymouth on Thursday and took quite a bit of preparation because it was myself and Kenny and Claire that went up from the Colum team. And that meant that Mike and Stephanie could carry on with the news, so three of us left on Thursday morning with two very full cars for the camping equipment. And we were met up on site by Charles Mannet and his wife and children and also some of his family relations. And that was really lovely. They'd taken the trouble and been brave enough to come and join the event as well, so that was really nice for us as the UK Colum team. We had a good drive up from Plymouth and in fact it was remarkably good. It's about four hundred and I think it's about 425 miles, M5, M6 all the way up and then cut across from Penrith on, I think it's the A66 really scenic road. Traffic was no problem at all on all of the motorway sections. We had a little bit of go slow, a bit north of Birmingham, but it was only probably for about three or four miles. So with two, possibly three stops, I can't remember now. We were up at the campsite by seven in the evening, so that was probably seven and a quarter hours, I think it took us, but it was quite an easy drive. It was a little bit tough getting to the campsite because it was cold and there was a lot of mist and very, very fine, busy rain. I'm going to say Kenny did a brilliant job helping me get the tents up, which we managed to do without getting too wet. Poppy was very suspicious. Poppy, the dog's never been camping before and poor girl was terrified of most of the items that came out the car. Everything from the clanking of the tent poles to the sound of the tent material being opened and later she was very suspicious of the fact that if she walked on the ground, the plastic ground, it didn't feel right and it made sort of plasticky ground sheet noises, but we did eventually get her settled down and the interesting thing was that the next morning, having finally got her into bed, into her comfy, doggy bed in the tent, she covered up with a blanket. She didn't want to get her out of bed, so we eventually had to leave her around to the tent, but a rival was cold. I was looking at these two and thinking that looks really like pickle, I could work it out initially, so how are you? Good, thank you. I was away camping. I've been away camping for the weekend, yeah, up in Kumbria, it was lovely, it was sort of music gathering, people had a lot of stalls and things, selling things. I broke out camping equipment which probably hasn't been used for 20 years. I've got two pretty big tents which I took up and a big dome tent and there was three of us. It was work orientated, but it was social. Saturday was nice, I've now got a house full of tents and I'm waiting for this to stop so I can get it out and get them dried off. Thursday night, Friday morning, Friday morning particularly was really cold. We sat in the tent drinking cups of tea and coffee because we could have the cooker on and get ourselves warm. That's fine, that's it, come on. Yes, I just had a little bit of a private chat with a lady, I know very well there, so, yeah, so just the weather, Thursday night we got out was very misty in this fine rain and then Friday morning it was heavier. But quite fine driving rain, it was also quite cold, so Kenny and Claire and myself stayed in the tent for once we got out for a couple of, well, three hours, four hours, drinking cups of tea and coffee. So, because that was a social event and also with a little stove on, things warmed up, so Friday was generally cold, the rain did stop later in the afternoon, so that wasn't too bad. Saturday was lovely, sunshine, everything transformed into summer and then the Sunday, unfortunately it went cold and grey, I don't think it rained at all. And then of course Monday when we had to pack up, it decided to tip down and so we had the fun of, I can't remember, Tetris isn't it, the game where you've got to organise the pieces of the puzzle so they will fit, we had to do that and keep one tent up so we could keep everything dry or we put all the big stuff in the car, but we managed to do it, so that's a little synopsis of what the camping was like, the event just one before. A lot of people, I don't know how many, I think I heard somebody say they thought about 2000, lots of different people, lots of families, a lot of children who had great fun, not only on the bouncy castle and bouncy slide stuff that was there, but obviously just enjoying running around, a lot of dogs, so that was good. And a lot of really lovely people that we talked to, many of course we didn't know, it's the UK column team, but I'm going to say a big thank you to all the UK column people, the supporters that came to our shop which we've set up in a little, it's think called an event tent, so it's like a big dome tent, but you can get quite a few people in there plus the stalls with all the merchandise and people came over, they bought things which lovely, they chatted to us, they laughed, they joked, they gave us hugs, they wanted photos taken with us and many of them, if not most of them just said we want to thank you guys for everything you're doing and that was just lovely for us, it's such a huge boost when people come to us and say thank you for what we've been doing and I learnt that certainly out of the people there most of the people had learnt to the UK column during Covid lockdown, that was the time that they woke up and several of them said that they'd been in quite a bad place during that lockdown time and that we had kept them sane, which of course is what we've mentioned from emails before so we really enjoyed it and we were at the end of the day when people had done all their sort of shopping and things, we were able to just sit and have a beer with a few people in the UK column tent and have a chat and it was lovely Kenny did a brilliant job because he got too wonderful, I think they called feather banners with UK column on and they're really lovely, very well made, so big thank you to the company that provided those and they really did make a statement for the UK column tent, people could see us and it looked good, I'll put up a photo so you can see so all that was lovely, great music by a number of bands and different genres for different people and we had some DJ sessions, I didn't, I wasn't able to enjoy listening and being there with the music as much as I would like because there was quite loud, I know that's the way it is, it was quite loud, it was a bit loud for Poppy and the trouble with Poppy is she's like a limpet and I don't often, certainly up there I wasn't going to get away from Poppy because she was a bit nervous probably until the last couple of days come on girl, that will do, we'll just get to the car parking back, everybody had fun and in the evening there were some big group chats around the fire pit and it was just lovely, when I walked around and I talked to people and I said to them what have you got out of being here and they said it was just lovely to be able to talk to people about anything we want and we're not worried about what people are going to think of us or what they say and we've just enjoyed relaxed chatting and laughing and having fun it was brilliant, in my head it was absolutely people being people, I could say a bit as I remember when people were relaxed and chatty and laughing and having to be here together or whatever it was so it was lovely, I know a huge amount of organisation there by the light, we were really pleased to get an invite and we enjoyed ourselves and I hope there's going to be many more of these things because they're very uplifting Katie Jo also came along from Hope Sussex and that was good because we had a catch up chat with Katie Jo, she's obviously doing equivalent things and I hope this sort of expands around the country because the more people come together and relax it strengthens them, it recharges them and at the end of the day not only is there strengthening numbers but people realise that they're concerns and they wish to do something to stop some of the horrors going on in this country at the moment that's all strengthened by being together with other people, a lot of knowledge from individuals on all sorts of matters, anything from the constitution to some things happening politics or farming or food or health and it was all, it was all being discussed, it was fine, it was fine So a little very lively black Labrador who's been swimming in the river, yes, I'm going to say it was great and let's have more of these things, let's get more of these things where people are getting away from the dreaded box and the BBC and they're getting lots of fresh air and exercise and families are families and individuals who are getting together and really enjoying proper interaction with other human beings, it was good Now what I'm going to do is I've done the bet because I have been walking poppy the dog but I thought from here on I'll just share with you some of the interviews or bits of interviews, clips of interviews that I did with people on the campsite and I'll share a few other audio clips to give you a little bit of a flavour of what it was all about and yes, for those with visual special needs, I did take some photos So I'll put some of those up on screen and you can have a, you can get a better feel as to what the Pika come rear light festival was all about I hope you enjoy it, thank you for joining me, stay posted, here it comes So I'm here outside the UK column tent with a gentleman, don't give me your full name, just give me your first name And well, neither, my name's Drake Okay, where are you from? From all over I live in my motorhome, I travel now, full time traveller And you go ahead and hear OK, it's a bit wet and slippery It's a bit damp, luckily I was up here a couple of weeks ago at the W2F festival I knew what to expect, so I brought rescue ramps and stuff, stuck in the field But yeah, I realised the time to get in, but no, it's great, it's a great meeting of like minds, it's great Key question, then why have you come? My wife knows the organiser pretty well, she couldn't make it today, she's at another event And I was up here a couple of weeks ago, and spoke to Darren briefly And saw the advert for it and thought, yeah, this is, I So have you been to one of these before? No, because this is the first one, isn't it? But I've been to this type of thing And I suppose, I agree with the freedom movement, I knew something was wrong a little, quite some time ago So I've been following this for quite some years, so I'm here to, yeah, meet some new people, spread some contacts Have some fun and chat Well two weeks ago it was all talk, talks I should say, you've talked after talk after some really interesting information at the W2F festival This I think should be a bit more laid-back maybe a bit more music, so I thought yeah, come and support as well, I always like to support these sort of things And living in the van is great to be able to come here, isn't it? It's just great to be able to talk to people and not worrying about what you're saying or what you think or whatever And everybody's very sociable, I'm an older guy, another older guy I was talking to an hour ago And I said, it's really weird, isn't it? Because it's like it was with people when you just talked When you could talk and you could disagree and not hate each other, I couldn't agree, yeah So, do you think we'll see Marianna Spring here? I don't believe this is a sort of place you'd come to, though interestingly the last one, Sky News sent a couple of reporters So it's quite interesting to see them question a few people, and a few people agree to interviews, I wasn't very keen on that But a few people did agree to interviews, but I don't know whether they've actually put anything out, I'm not sure But they're obviously feeling that they need to come and cover it, so there's a bit of pressure, isn't it? Well, I listened to a couple of these questions and they were saying this freedom movement started four years ago, why is it still going? And to watch a lot of people saying, well, because we've actually more and more people are waking up to the fact that we've been lied to And you're part of the lie? And you're part of the lie? Or are you here to actually tell the truth of the story? Oh no, so it was very interesting, but you're right, the vast majority of the people here are the same And I like the fact that their family is here and there's young children and things People are exposing their children to experience this Well, I nearly brought my grandson, but we thought it was just a little bit because he's on half-term And because he came on my own, but we thought he's not quite old enough yet, but maybe he would have been worse But I'd just like to say as well, thank you very much, Roy and I are long-term, thank you very much So thank you for the content, it's great, and we recommend the channel to manage the world's time We're not everybody's taste, but then the important thing is the thing I can see is they're now more and more people doing good work So brilliant, the word is spreading, thank you, enjoy your weekend Right, I think I'm actually recording on everything now, let's just go and see what we get There's lots of dogs, I've just been a bit wary But Poppy's not going to get too far I wonder whether the dancing lady will talk to me, as I've seen her dancing at the top of the field Hello, nice to meet you, I'm recording audio, so you're likely to keep talking to me Absolutely, yeah, so you'll give me a name, Mark, Mark, hello Mark, where are you from? I'm from there, where's Yorkshire? Okay, what do you think of the event then? Fantastic, fantastic, I met Daz a few months ago again, and he's telling me to put it on so I've kind of dealt with a little bit with battles and stuff like that Alright, yeah, it was lovely to know that you was here actually, because I watched you every week Well, we have really enjoyed getting on with the light newspaper for a long time So Darren said he was putting on the event, and would we come up, would we like a stall, so we said yeah, we'll be up And it's really nice, everybody's still chill now, it's just a really nice vibe, you know Well, this is a topic that's come up with everybody I've spoken to this morning doing this And they say we can walk around and we can chat to people about anything we want, and there's no hassle And then people are normal, they're laughing and they're joking, and it's true, isn't it, as it should be So it should be, you know, if Mariana Spring was here with us, she'd be wandering around, and she's trying to find what's wrong with us But everybody here is just normal, again, as it should be, you know, this is how we all really are, with all that, it's Ed's Ben Yeah, and next week, over the past, well, for many, many years, you know, it was even the last three years And it's just nice to see that people have got out of the other side of it, and they're coming together now And this is not only happening here, it's happening all over the world, you know, I see what you report on And, you know, I mentioned it immediately, it's never going to tell you what you guys see And what you see, but what I like about you guys is you keep it within the parameters of what's kind of within the kind of lore, if you like I know you have loosely, but, you know, you're very good, very eloquent with the way that you deliver your stories And I like that, I like that, and I turn so many people onto UK column It can be tricky, you see, because our logic, when we had our second UK column studio in Plymouth, it was on a bit of a hill And we could look out the window, and you looked over all these houses with grey slate roofs And you knew that in those houses were people who, you know, probably their husband and wife working, not earning a huge amount But they both worked in, they got little mortgage, and they got car, and they got children And they haven't got time, you know, to see stuff But also, you've got to wait them up gently And so we decided that what we were going to try and do was tell the truth about what was happening But keep it in a very measured form And so some people say to us, "Oh, you never talk about this, or you never talk about that" And we say, "Well, other people are talking about that" And they say, "Yeah, but it's important" And then we say, "But you're awake, we're not talking to the people who are awake, we're talking to the people who are just waking up" And, you know, we've had a couple of MPs, we've had the professors and some quality people talking to us And I think that's because they regard us as being almost, you know, middle of the road And they're not going to get anything too wacky with a UK column So they trust us But if we went on and talked, I mean, I'm recording here But if I was sat down with you having a beer and you wanted to get on to UFOs or demonic warfare, I'll talk to you But that's not the stuff for the news because you just spoil the other messages So we just go slowly But I'll tell you, the thing which has been like we've never seen this before was the trouble in Israel and Gaza Oh boy, do we have some unpleasant emails from people who said they were Christians? Really horrible emails? And that really surprised me, you know? You don't have much of that shills or you don't have much of that people, can you? Well, I've got to say some of them, I know, I know who it was and I was really surprised because some of them were venomous I imagine, you're always going to get kicked back It's like, I would say years ago, you can't leave, you can't wait because I'm not going to attack you This is true Yeah, I was just talking about that over there and what we're about It's sort of the old wake up process which seems to have happened on a mask a lot of the last few years But then you've got the people that have just walking up and they're smiling and they're smiling now And they're massively uneducated in what they're saying, so they turn people off them straight away, you know? Yeah, it's a problem, but you know, follow the compound and all that. I just say that when I first was finding out the stuff, some of it was pretty weird I was lucky that I met some good people who have been doing stuff well before my time And I was happy to listen to them and learn from that, I didn't agree with everything they said But I just learned from them, but it is easy that it gets into your head and then people start going in all sorts of directions Yeah, absolutely, absolutely So a year or a weekend then? Yeah, Monday we're going back, so it came on Thursday You've seen Peter's kicking around? No, not yet, I was told he was going to be here today He's ill, he's ill, that's now, I walked up and he's staying in the smallest tent in the world Yeah, it's like, I've walked him back to his tent and I said, "What's the name of that?" Yeah, I said, "Can you stay with that money?" Because he's a real person, isn't it? A little friend normally has a big temperature, he's not, he's hot brought, he's in, I'm going to be caught that car in the tortoise Yeah, right, right, lovely to meet you, it's great to see you I'll keep spreading the word but Thanks very much, visit us at over at the shop there I'm going to come and buy something, yeah I do, thank you All right, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine Can I speak to you? Not like a camera No, it's not a camera, it's just an audio, you don't have to give me a name Oh, so that'll be all right, no, it's just going to be here, we're not on the beat All right, okay, no, no, no Yeah, no, that's fine, it's just I've watched you dancing in the field all yesterday You were doing it and you're back here dancing today So just tell people why you're dancing Because everything we have is here, so I'm dancing barefoot And it's one of the things that we've become disconnected from It's just realising that nature isn't some wishy-washy kind of hippy thing Actually, we're all innately, that's part of being human It's part of being nature And it's just the root to health when you connect with the sun yesterday Coming down and the soil And the amazing grass here, it's really impressive So yeah, I know quite a lot about flowers, so it's actually very biodiverse grass that we're dancing on And it's just electrons come up from the ground and they're very essential for them And you feel better? Yeah, and the music is good as well Yeah, it's nature and the music together for me, it's like what brings it together And the music is wonderful And sometimes, because I'm connected with the earth There's occasionally, not now or today, but music isn't correct in the heart And when I'm really connected with nature, I can feel it, it's not healthy for me So it helps me to discern what music is not alright Yeah, that's right, yeah, great Well there you are, that was pointless The end was pointless The audio is good, because I've been doing this thing I just call walking the dog, so I take the dog out from walking to speak to people And invariably, people say I'm recording audio and they look a bit funny initially But then they'll speak and they forget But if I pointed the camera out, then it changes the whole dynamic So audio is interesting And I've pushed back with a few people saying you should do it audio And I'm saying no, because I'm talking to you And I've walked up the path earlier on with two ladies And we're just chatting And I wasn't even thinking about what I was doing, I was just enjoying the chat And that makes it good Yeah, yeah, it does happen, yeah Anyway, with all this stuff that's so pointless on the face, facial recognition, it just feels Yeah, I know, yeah, but it's only a microphone Yeah, of course it is If I'd been treated, I would have known that I'd keep meaning, you know those little stick on eyes You can get it for the children, I'd keep meaning to get a couple of these Because I'm sure I'd take the heats off it, but brilliant, thank you Oh, it's great, because, well, people have been asking us to do more life stuff But it's typical fitting it in, and you know, we're away Mike's having to do more on his own, on the Friday and coming Monday But the best bit is people who come up to us and say thank you Yeah, yeah, yeah And it was fun before Yeah, that's all you need Thank you Right, I'll see you, bye bye Well, that was lovely, wasn't it? That's what happens when you take the trouble to go and speak to a very nice lady who was dancing on her own in the field And I can't remember whether I What I was doing when I saw her yesterday Oh, I know, I was just in the shop, UK column shop, and I looked out And there was this lady on her own, sort of in the middle of the wide part of the field Dancing, and it was really great So there we are, so we got a little bit more Do you listen all the time to say more about that? Who is the health and safety officer? Yes, he does, yes I know, unfortunately it's... I'm recording a bit of audio still, I can turn it off On the other hand, you've come to visit us Get, yeah, I don't live too far away, so I've been walking a little bit lately towards Carlisle I've been walking around Carlisle in a week, maybe And have you been to these sorts of... The first time, and it's quite good to have one, something like this in West Cumberland Because this area, it's different to the lake, property, it's a former, the industrial area And it's one of the most deprived areas in the country, they weren't in the white area And some of those really weren't going to be... There was a lot of heavy industry here And it took a graduate purpose down during the '80s I mean, there were steel works, some of the highest grade iron or hammer type It was mined here, and there was steel works in Burkington, and then a millen as well And further down the coast, and when they went, I put it in millen, there was nothing left And it used to be, for instance, there was a chemical plant, a marsh on plants, a white haven Quite a lot of industry, but it's all gone up, apart from Southfield There was a lot of mining as well, you see that pike was a pit village And obviously it's closed down, and it's just still up, an employment since the '80s And of course, that was Margaret Thatcher's era, wasn't it? Yes, nothing was put back, and the interest was just getting here, the best road in the year '56 The road south is too round to borrow it, it's just horrendous Well, on the other hand, the fact that you haven't got good roads in and out But all the rest of it stays here Yeah, I mean, that's a top-back to Audrey Ebenglasse It's a very pretty bit of coast, because the liquor fells go right down to the coast there Right, you've got the S.Geska estuary, which is very, very pretty in many pieces Yeah, well, my sister's been up in this area a lot, because within the family's connections to pen risk Alright, but I've never been up in the lakes, and my wife's really keen to come up And so, actually, I was volunteered to come up for this weekend, it wasn't difficult But when we drove Thursday, the weather was a bit claggy, until we got right up And then the sun started to come out, just as we got on the 'A'66 for those amazing hills and things I can look in the '90s, yeah, we'd be a nice driver, you'd get the weather I mean, there's no one like it, but you'd just come at the right time with the mid-week, a horrendous rain And there's quite a bit of flooding, you know, the village is near me, there's a lot of flooding there And when I work a lot with my brother's dairy family, he was a dairy farmer, a beefy sheepy, passed away just a couple of weeks ago And I work with farmers, and I work with farmers, and I work with farmer network companies as a support group for farmers And I work with farmers in North East, the border lounge area, you've come here Right, so, tell it, not necessarily now, but UK column would love more on the farming site Yeah, Charles Mallet is going to be here Yeah, a bunch of me emailed about him, because my farmers in the northeast corner, in the border lounge They're worried about land being bought at the tree planting, and a lot's already been bought at the decade by farmers But trees, well, a lot of it's acidic as Bruce, and a lot of it was on Old Farmland, there was a photo commission in there Probably from the 30s to the 60s, bought a lot of it's up And land, the 200 places is going up, as it's just the, it's just bought a farm And a lot of that's going to be, we're going to plant a broadie, a lot of that's going to be, going to be, said cure as well And quite interestingly, I didn't really do like a test of trial when my farmers grew, it was some ridges for death row But we turned it, so we used it to our advantage, to try and prove what farming been, as well as producing high-quality beef and sheep Is how farming actually benefits the environment, and we're going to plant trees over here, you're going to lose all that And I think, and coniferous trees don't have the habitat of deciduous farmers No, no, no, no, no, in a shot, film with it, it's not very good, I send it to a shot, it's really bad it needs them again But one of those things, what we did was a soil test, a soil carbon test And I tested some fields and old pastures, there's an old farming couple, with next to one of the big forest, Kirschap Forest And about 60 years ago, it was all pasture, and I did a shot video comparing the soils of the old pasture And into the sickest fruit plantation, and the old pasture had beautiful soils, mixed species, swab, mixed grasses, wildflowers And it's got a dark brown soil, and it just breaks up crumbled, and you put it to the soil, and it's a lot of earthworms And you go into this fruit plantation, and you just have great, colorless soil, compacted, no life in its soil And we did a soil carbon test, and the old pastures had over 20% more carbon than what the fruit plantation had So the spruce has obviously oxidized that organic matter in the soil, and it's made it, and it says, solidified it in the process But why it's got no structure, it's compacted and no life in it And it sounded about the second or third crop now, and the trees, what's going to happen is going to deep the soil further and further And if it goes, it's going to continue, we haven't seen this yet, but imagine it's going to really accomplish that soil Yeah, incredible You see, we're just having a chat, and all this knowledge comes flooding out, isn't it? Enormous, you know, you'll make the proper contact with Charles today, because he's here Yeah, I'd love to talk to Charles about this And also what I'm very concerned about, and the director of the farmer network, who I work for, Adam Dei, he's an induction leader as well He's a lot of farmers up in the heart out to him, and a lot of, there's a big, loudest state, and he borders on to the, you know, utilities of state By horsewalls, and so you're massive lots of land between them, and a lot of tendencies are not being renewed So what's happening is, we've gone into this landscape recovery scheme, and part of the elms, it's about the high tip tier And it pays between £200 and £900 for the hectare, each year for 20 years, but twice as long as it's to rewild it And they're doing, like, really next to nothing, very little And now there, I've been told to get in about 500 pounds, the hectare, well that's double what they'll get, who's louder? The long-term, the long-term state, the long-term state, the long-term state, they live at Ask and Paul, you used to have, like, now the castle, it's common, dear, during the war So we've got politicians who are benefiting from the policies? Yeah, well now they've got a lot of connections, yes, and then again you've got the United Utilities as well, a big corporation So they're getting, like, public money to pay for the wild, where you're getting good agricultural land going, you know, to production And also some of the people who are, like, common land is well there, you probably saw on the way up on the M6, over a chapter before you got to Penworth Buses of £300, it was big, like, the motorway of the central, a huge central renovation of the couple of fields, it's all planted in these trees, that was recently done I've been told that we've not been, the project have not been renewed, what's going to happen there? It's going to build up a touch, because it was grazed by sheep And the whole lot's going to be a fire hazard, so you can just imagine, like, first time fires here and there And the people who say, "Oh, I've got a climate change," or something like that, where it's not the happy farmer, it's not, it's just totally lack of management And they're worried about some of the, you know, too many sheep taking off the moos as well, where it's a fine balance, I mean, I guess in the past, the word "overgrade" For the degradation, we've taken to the chop, if you get outgrown and you get things like gauze, sometimes the wrong species growing in, or you just get, like, brown grasses And it destroys what was the biodiversity, and it allowed to build up, you get the walkers gone there, and it's just like a match going, and it's all, like, a piece of organic soils So the whole lot's going to make it a fire hazard Yeah, and I'll just give you this little story back, but he's doing another job now, but my nephew was a firefighter in the states, on forest fires And the stories he was telling is that the fire service in America, we're getting more and more concerned In the wooded areas, the build-up of wood debris on the forest floor was getting bigger and bigger Because the authorities had stopped them doing controlled burns, and the firefights had said, well, in the wilds, it builds up, and then there's a fire And then everything regrows from the fire, but the authorities stopping them putting fires, and then the timber building up And when they get fires, they're immensely hot, because it's so much debris, and then you get these huge fireball jumpovers, and these rapid fires and the fireballs And then put all the homes at risk, but when the firefighters say to the authorities, you're causing trouble around these fires, of course, they don't know what they're talking about And you get the news, it comes on the news, and it's all climate change, which caused it, but it's not happening around the world, and I've got a friend, she's a firefighter in Galicia, not in Spain And there's a lot of small holes, you collecters, it's a fire hazard Because of the oils and stuff, yeah, yeah, yeah, and you get the bark jebbe as well, it peels off and it gasses a statue on the floor I think the reason why it's a very quick turnover, is because you're a binder there, but it gets through the landscape, and then on top of the hills you've got wind to it, but it's really hard, isn't it? So you haven't given me a name, Peter Folden, Peter, thank you very much, that was really great, how did you discover the UK column? It was during Covid, it was actually a friend who mentioned it, it was quite hard, and so I checked you out, because I've never heard of you, it would probably be about sort of end of 2020 other than that, towards the end of 2020 And this became a regular view, and a member as well, so brilliant, thank you for that, yeah And yeah, I watched you three times a week, and it never might have done such a lot, yeah, good But I was just a graduate minute, a while, yeah, I knew there'd been something wrong for quite some time, but what did it to me, wasn't so much 9/11, it was like the Syria conflict, what didn't make sense to me Because I remember Khan would say no, we should go there and help the Free Syrian Army And I think what was pretty in harness, because look at Lebanon, Syria is like Lebanon on a larger scale And I thought surely you're just going to get absolute chaos if you do that, and then I learned who were the actual Syrian army, because I've disappeared now And all of what they did was they extended the weapons onto Daesh, and obviously I've learned a lot more Syrian from Vanessa, I mean a huge one And I did two jits, so we used to talk about all these things, the banks, and I heard about the first heard about the collie, the Greg case as well And it wasn't until like 2020 that all these have started to link up on us here, you know, like the likes of U.K. and Colin, and your Sonny Paul's, as well And I thought, you know, all this is a huge network, the whole lot is connected, the whole lot is connected, and it's like tentacles of a giant Of a giant squid, you know, what it is, and you know, you just really just want to find out more, and just do what I can and you're trying to spread the word as it is You know what, it's the can. A few people I've talked to this morning walking around here, it's exactly this, it just needs all of us to do a little bit Yeah, that's what you're doing a lot, and that's great Yeah, I try to engage with farmers, they do, but like consultative work with farmers, not catching sensitive farming actually in tenors, but they are quite useful, we do like soil testing and soil analysis, absolutely broad, huge and planted The farmers can benefit from those, and I started engaging the farmers, I love them, I mostly know the things are wrong, and you can just probe them, just get them back a bit deeper and get them Yeah, that's the aim, is to do the step, some people say to us that we don't cover certain subjects, and we say no, because we're not actually talking to you guys who are awake, we're talking to the people who just start And you take them up three or four steps at a time, if you're trying, sorry, you couldn't possibly say, you know, what it actually was a root, because it takes about a bit, it takes about a bit It takes a little too too too tight, I just know what really is at the back of it all, so people have really got a bit drip-fed, yeah, absolutely Yeah, I've got to say, that's utterly brilliant, time for me to press the stop, but thank you for doing that So I just set the scene a little bit, I've been up to the top field, and I'm very pleased that Charles and his wife and the children are now with us, and he tells me that he's got more family So this is particularly nice, good morning, yeah, all right, I'm recording a CD, yeah, of course, yeah For track of their Dr. Blood money, it's about what we can guess what that's about Okay, moon juice, so I'm recording audio at the moment, so is that okay, right, so you've just given me a CD, it's moon juice, gone beyond, sometimes the lights are smoked, just this, killing floor, Dr. Blood money And what sort of music is this? It's a little bit in the rock, a bit of funkiness, a bit of funkiness for the blues, a bit psychedelic Okay, brilliant, where are you? We're on and caught past two, something Oh, okay, caught past two, but where are you from, where's Homer? Okay, yeah, great Joey Shaw, right, actually he's not on the show anymore, isn't he? Well, last, I thought he's back in the States, actually, and also he'd hurt himself, he'd done something, so there's some catching up There's some catching up to be done, caught past two, I will come along and we'll do some recording Yeah, I'll record on this, and I'll catch you again, I'm gonna walk back with Oz here, we're going back to get this down to the guys in the shop, because they're standing up at the moment But thank you very much, all right, yeah, brilliant, take care So that's really a classic example of just having a chat with people But I'm here with a lady, and you're gonna give me a name or not? I think you already gave it Okay, well, we can do some editing if I made a boo boo Yeah, so where's home roughly, there's a bit of a hint with your accent, maybe North-West, go to Manchester Okay, and have you been to these sorts of events before? Oh yeah, I've been to one called Carry On campaign, that I went to last year, that was on twice And where were those events then? Lincolnshire Oh wow, the flatlands? Yes, yeah, very flat Yeah, so there was two of them on last year, one in the Maybank party, one in August And are they the same sort of format with camping and music? Yeah, there's a lot more going on, there's various speakers, workshops, there's a healing area where you can have various treatments, massages, reiki, things like that They have like a lake swim organised, you know, there's things going on for all ages from morning to night And it's nice to see the children, isn't it? Yeah, there's loads of kids, loads of dogs, pets, you know, it's a really nice house there Hello, how's Poppy doing? She's doing very well, I'll tell you what, I'll catch you up in a second and then, yeah, you can recover from the shock So I'm recording at the moment, it's fine Yeah, so I decided that it was easy to come around and walk the dog and talk to people here What a brilliant idea, yes And it's been fun actually, because I've spoken some really nice people, we're just about to get my expression is squashed, we're just about to get squashed Yeah, where are you from? Manchester Oh, okay, yeah, salt Have you been to these sorts of things before? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have Well, I went to the first UK common conference actually, not like this, yeah No, but we are going to do a live event later in the year, yeah, it'll be in a hotel and we have some really good speakers But people have been bantering us for a long time about doing some more live stuff Yeah And we had to have a break from it because there's only so much you can do and even coming away to this Mike's got to do the Monday news and the Friday news and do most of the stuff himself But we're getting better and the team has grown, so we hope to be doing more Yeah, I mean we don't know what goes on behind the scenes, there's probably loads of work that has to be done Well, for the column, I think we're allowed to say, I've got a sneaking suspicion that when other people have sort of said Well, we can do what the column can do and maybe they do do something for a while and then it seems to fade away And I think it's because they find out how much work goes into it, yeah But the nice thing is there is more people doing things, yeah So that's really good, how did you discover the column then? Well, I mean going back to 2012, 2013, somebody recommended what's UK column? Yeah, so a long time ago, I had a sort of an awakening experience and suddenly thought what's going on in the world Well, one of the things that's fun for us is because in the beginning we did print a newspaper, a hard copy newspaper And when the light team got in contact with us and we were having a bit of discussion about what we did and how we got started And I said, well actually we printed the paper and I went and got a copy, and of course they were amazed Yeah And so I said we found it fun, that they'd started the paper, which I think they'd done a brilliant job on And it was almost like that was absolutely somebody picking up the baton, because we felt we wanted it Hello, rest in peace, the deep state, game over, yeah you're feeling optimistic then Absolutely Yeah, we were just saying how well the light team have done putting all this on So I'm recording audio, I should tell you You need to say anything you don't want to I have to make you anyway Hello, I decided to do walking the dog by coming round the campsite and having a chat with people Good man, trying to do up and coming, what is it, the election, which is this is appropriate I think It is, well it is To the back of my van, great I must say I don't listen to you, I support you every month Sometimes you're too intelligent for me But it's okay, but I support you all the time I think it's important that you are there No, what we do is pretty intense, I know this And this is, I'm not stupid, it's not that, it's not that, but I say that Well, I don't think you should, because if you were stupid you wouldn't be here, that's the answer, isn't it? But yeah, I mean we've always stuck at the fact that the way to be, we think the way to be getting back Is to be accurate, and the business about is it news and information or is it entertainment? This is a tricky one, because people want both But that's why I've been doing these walking the dog things, do you listen to any of those? I haven't. No, I'm not. Right. So YouTube, Brian Garris, walk in the dog. Oh, you're on YouTube? Yeah, because I really like you on YouTube. Well, it was the UK column account that got taken down. So basically, I walk poppy locally and I meet people and I talk to them. But also just, it's very relaxed. There's nothing heavy. And a small number of viewers, but lots of lovely comments that people say, "Oh, I don't know what I'm saying." Oh, it was wonderful. I just chilled out and I got people saying, "I listened to you walk in the dog from Istanbul and I listened to you walk in the dog from, and I just keep it down to Chatey, like I'm doing now." Hello. Hello. Yeah. I'm cheating by walking poppy the dog. Hello. I walk down the road with you because I'm going back to our... We watch you all the time. You do. Yeah. Every day. You sad person. No, it's nothing. Yeah. I was not sad. We don't watch mainstream news. So how did you discover us then? It was probably years ago, probably the beginning of... Hang on a minute. I need to change hands with this because the dog keeps changing sides on me. And then lead. Yeah. We've got three dogs. Then lead it. Let's leave for when we let go. I'm all dishy. Fourteen. Yeah. See? I've still got it. Come on. We've got three Romanian rescues. Beautiful dogs. Beautiful dogs. I've got special needs, obviously. Yeah. There's some... Thank you so much. Thank you for your research so hard and for people to find out about your news. Well, I'm going to say to you that when we come out to these events and people come and see us and yesterday, you know, a lot of people came up and they just wanted a chat. Yeah. But when they said, "I've come to say you guys saved me because I was in such a bad place." She said, "Do you ever brought the phone and wanted a picture?" I said, "Well, I've still gone to it." It's hard to get out of that bad place sometimes, isn't it? It really is, but you've got to kind of think about your own life. You're on family and just try and get yourself through it the best you can. Yeah. Well, there's... She's very knowledgeable. Yeah. Very, very, very... I'm not. It's frightening. It's frightening, especially all the SRMs, stuff like that. Well, there's a thing. It's an old saying for people at sea, and it's one hand for the ship and one hand for yourself. Absolutely. And the logic is that if you don't keep one hand hanging on for you, you can't do anything for the ship. Absolutely. And this is exactly the same. Yeah, that's absolutely right. Absolutely. Do you want to go into the thing? I don't know. We can sneak through it. Can we sneak through here? Probably we can. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's... It's going to be noisy. No, it's really important to, you know, do things to keep yourself sane and relaxed. Yeah. I do. You can sneak through it. You keep yourself up all night, will you? I can, but sometimes it can be tricky, but walking the dog is key for me. Absolutely. I do a lot of dog walking. Yeah. And the other thing, I don't say I can play it, but I'm trying to teach myself a violin for a long time. Oh, look. And I find when I do that, because I have to concentrate, all the other stuff disappears. How big for me, so I'm not looking after, we've got a very disabled son. So not looking after him. Not looking after the dogs, not doing the house, but not doing the job, just sitting outside with everything. Yeah, chilling. Listen to the birds, like birds. So listen to the birds, they open air, forget about anything that's going on. Whether it's any... You've got to do that, because it's actually a really scary, big world out there. So, if you haven't listened to "Walk in the Dog", you might enjoy it. Yeah, the new series. It's new series that you've just sat in there. And I've had some brilliant comments. I bet. I bet. It's when you reflect. Yeah. And I didn't want to be bullied into video, because what I'm doing with you now, I'm just relaxing. I'm not thinking about a camera and a thing, and it's fun. Yeah, I don't think I could be quite a bit of a camera, I'm too shy. I don't even like my picture be in text, or I couldn't do that. I've heard of us, too, and it gets worse every year. We don't like seeing ourselves. I'm like, "It's just okay." So people are mad. How do you talk with it all? How do you talk like with... I'll tell you what, let's come away from the... Use of the ones that are doing the research, you're feeding it back. Because how do we cope with it? We know it's serious, and we treat it as serious. But we also regard it as a game. It's like a big game, right? One hand on a ship. Yeah. And the other bit is that we don't worry about anything. I mean, I mean... I mean, that's what you've got to do. You've worried too much. Do you want everything that runs on, you know? Yeah. So we had a lady email, I mean, she said... She said, "I'm loving the walk in the door, but you need to be really careful if you're out in the woods on your own." I'm thinking, no, I don't. I just, you know... Never had any regrets or anything like that. In the beginning, yeah. But when it all stopped, it was the moment that I started to be known. Yeah. Yeah. And that's been true for quite a lot of people, that when they're... The rule is, if you get attacked, you must never try and run and hide. You must do the opposite. Exactly, exactly. Like, suddenly falls with that. She's just a warrior. I know, she's great. She's just a warrior. She does not care at all. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So this is the key thing. You get any... You shout about it. Yeah. It's weird seeing you study, eh? She wanted to walk, right? I said, "No, go to hell or she'll be talking." Yeah, there you are. I said, "No, we're patiently till he's finished off." No, no, you've made my life. You think we'll ever win. Yeah, yeah, we're definitely going to win. In our lifetime, I don't know. I don't know. And then the other thing is, do we win or is it a bigger battle? I think it's a bigger battle, eh? If you say it's a spiritual battle, right? One, we don't have to worry about whether we win it or not, because that's all being taken care of. But we do have to fight, right? You can't walk away from it. You have to do something. But you still have to keep thinking of yourself as well. Yeah, absolutely. It's a lot of time said to her, because she's a all-night warrior. I work on the front line. I'm an occupational therapist. All right, yeah. I work on the first thing at seven o'clock in the morning is what the hit is. I'm like, "There's two more." The golden rule is don't research late at night. Absolutely. That is my advice to a lot of people. Just the same. Just the same. Well, I know. That's just what I see on the front line. No, the definitions from these jobs. It's just like under three. I can go off from the world. You can, yeah, because I've got to work with it. I've got to rehab them people. It's just like, and the role's staying before I have that job. Yeah. And I'm like, "I'll try to tell you." Because I was going to get sacked, my career was-- Yeah, I had a lot of pressure on people tonight. And I was like, "No." And I joined with a single union, actually, and I downloaded a letter that listed all the laws that were breaking. I'm working with the council. I was like, "No, I'm going to send this letter." So I sent the letter to HR. Never got a response from it. But this letter listed all the laws that were breaking and everything. And then about a week before I was due to get sacked, they changed my mind and then I left anyway. Yeah, because I'm just out of that much. Yeah, she's watching it. She's watching it. Yeah. Devastate me. And I just need you. I'll never go back to that. No, I know. Well, this is a thing, isn't it? Whatever you want to call it, once you wake up. Once you see it, you can't unsee it. It's very hard to work for the government. Yeah. Yeah. When I was back at uni, the government funded your uni, and it's all this big, vicious circle, isn't it? Yeah. They fund you, got uni, but they also fund you to work for them as well. Yeah. And that's the vicious circle. So you don't work for them? I don't want to work for them, but I'm trying to help people at the same time. Oh, no, this is what I want. Some people say, "Oh, you're still using a mobile phone." Well, I use a mobile phone because I can fight better using a mobile phone, so I use the mobile phone. But I know what they're saying, but you can't run away from it and fight it. You have to be in the amongst it and fight it. Anything I use a mobile phone, we don't have any social media to set for YouTube as I like it. Yeah. I know. Well, I, you don't need it anymore. You know you like to shoot gets me. Yeah. I'm not in the people's houses. Give me a couple of first names so that the audience knows who I've been talking about. I'm really in touch. Okay. Well done. Well done. It's been great talking to you. I'm going to be wandering around all day and tomorrow, isn't it? Thank you. And I'll see you again, guys. Yeah. Very much. Be good. Be good. It's good. Well, my goodness, that was fun. So we're just going to walk back to the UK column tent where Claire is sitting down. She looks as though she's had a lot of customers. How has it been? It's been good. Okay. Looking all hot. Yeah. Well, that's enough. That's enough. I've been given a, given a CD. Man says that they're playing at quarter past two. Thank you. So do you want to go over there? Yeah. Right. So for the audience, I'm back in the UK column shop and I'm just going to stop this recording. Do you want to do that again? Sorry? Do you want to do that again? I'll be caught in, sorry. No, it's fine. It sounds of human beings. Did someone say coffee? Okay. What? Coffee. Coffee, he said. Coffee. It wasn't the coffee that killed him, it was the coffee and they carried him off him. It's gone too far. Too far. I've got tape. Well, it's fine. I'm going to take nothing about him. It's all thanks for the CD. This is lovely. We're waiting later. We're giving it a go. See what happens. I think we might. Yes, it's lovely. It's lovely. Yes, it's lovely. Yeah, it's good. I think it's quite good. So a big hello to everybody. We're here in the UK column shop tent. And this morning, earlier this morning, I was talking to a lady and we were having a very interesting conversation. And she agreed to come back and speak to me. There is some impressive music going on, which I'm sure you can all hear. And that music is so loud. It's over the whole of the campsite. So we just decided we'd sit down and talk and see what we can record. Well, hello everybody. We're here in the UK column tent. We're at this amazing event organized by the light, well done to Darren and the team. And I spoke to a lady this morning who said she'd come back and talk to me and let me record the conversation. So, who are you? My name is Tina. I'm a retired head teacher and I'm here because I'm interested in it. I've been following the light newspaper for some time. And yourself, Brian, in the UK column. And there's other people here such as Piers Corbin, who I'm a great follower of. You know, basically we're interested in truth and website here. It's called Declaration of Dumfries. And it's all about truth, rights and sovereignty. And experience in the lives that media and even local views are putting out. Right. So how did this start then? Who actually created the Declaration of Dumfries? A guy called Mike Sutherland, who is the key person here. We came together in 2020 when the COVID, well I call it the... Pandemic? Yeah. We started. And we were kind of all in our own little space. No, it's not. There's something not right here. Right. We joined a group called Connecting Consciousness. Okay. And this is all north of the border. It's all north of the border. Yeah. Yeah. And we came together and decided to form our own news outlet, if you like. And, you know, we've got quite a few articles on this website. And we're looking now to gain more broader audience. Right. And we pulled the truth and the main guy is Mike. Sure. The truth about what? About what's going on here with the COVID, the pandemic, the masking of children. We've done articles about that. We've done articles about the mRNA vaccine, which we know is harm in people. And, you know, our website is all based on facts and research evidence based stuff. So, we are growing. But we're still small operation, but we are growing. Yeah. We're small. Small isn't bad because there are some very powerful, small organizations. And they're quite difficult for the establishment to deal with because they're small. And so we need lots of small groups. It feels that we are making a dent in some of the organizations that we're attacking. We do a lot of work through Pfizer requests and find out information of how these so-called mandates or, you know, come about them, how did they, how were they established in the first place? You know. And it's very interesting. A lot of the stuff that we're requesting is information that they can't answer. No, they can't answer because there is no laws to support what they're doing. Support what they're trying to do. Especially, particularly in schools. My interest is the children. You know, I'm a retired head teacher and I'm appalled at what's happening in the school level, you know. And teachers, you know, in compliance with what they're being told to do. And not putting the children first. You know, I just found it appalling. We live in troubled times, don't we? Absolutely. So, how many people do you think you've got working in the group? Well, we've got three main courses if you like. Right, so I've got a tablet and a couple of articles you can find on the website. We've got a woman whose alias is Pod, she's written articles. And Mike Sutherland, he's the key person here. Right. He's excellent. That's why I want people to come on and look at the website and judge for themselves what they feel about it. That's right. As I say, it's all about truth, sovereignty and fighting. It's honestly, you know. Yeah. But we're trying to ignore it. Yeah. This is really good. This is a big initiative north of the border. Yes. In Scotland, yeah. In June 3th. What made you come to the event today then? Well, I came because I knew you were going to be here. And I'm trying to get you to feature our website on your programme. Right. Even if it's like I said, but being small, you can't have an impact. Well, that's going to happen because we're having this interview, so we've started them with. Yeah. And because I knew you were going to be here. And they also knew first corpsman who had been following for a while. You know, because now we've got the climate change hopes, which I believe it is. I agree with you. Yeah. And, you know, it's all about control. Control of humanity basically, you know. And I think you just need to come get out there. Some interesting things started to happen because people are not set. I don't use the term, they're waking up. They're just aware something's not right. That's a good thing. That's a good start. Yeah. So you can start a conversation on the fact somebody says, I don't know what's going on, but something's not right. Something's not right. Yeah. Well, I knew from day one, you know, this Covid pandemic. When we had Mass Hancock standing on a podium saying, because I'm a woman of colour, saying that we need to vaccinate blacks and the Asians first. And you know, that was a red flag, you know, it was totally right. The government do not care about protecting Asians and black people, you know. I had a conversation with a man earlier on. And we were talking about this business of the government. He came from Northern Ireland and he started to watch UK column. But he said, the day that I paid attention was when Brian said, what you've got to realise is the government does not have your best interests at heart. So the government is hostile and the government hates all of us to varying degrees. So nobody escapes. Yeah. And I think what's happened is what caught my attention because my mum was in a care home a few years back to his acting crucialising care home. But that's not the story. When I saw what was happening and taking place in care homes, I was just absolutely informed that people couldn't visit their loved ones, that they would actually meet me in my view, in my opinion, about whether I can say this, but murdered with the use of medals alarm and morphine. They know it's outrageous what's happening in this country and what they're doing to the people, their own people. Yeah. And this is not just here, this is globally, you know, this is happening. And for them to take the same stance in every single country, doesn't that? Doesn't that mean it's global policy? Yes, it does. Yeah. So this is orchestrated and it's planned. So when you were a head teacher, what age group were you? So it was primary head teacher. Right. And of course the young children are the prime target at the moment for the policies that are coming in. And I think it's appalling, again, this transgender sexuality of children. I think it's actually been abandoned and Scotland. They're not 100% sure, but it's all contagious. Yeah. Of course, people north of the border did a lot of work in countering the names, births and skin. Yes, I remember that. And the back. Yeah, because that was very intrusive. Yes. And one of the ladies, I can't remember a name, but a lady member of the Scottish Parliament was on record as saying publicly, "Don't worry. The parents will also have a responsibility in bringing up the child." So the inference was that the state was going to take over the road. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And I was totally against it. Unfortunately, I'm retired now. And I know if I hadn't been in a school during this pandemic period, I probably would have been sad because I could not stand back and less than that. Go along with what was happening in schools. You know, for separating children in cultural diversity groups, they would have been separated. If you had children in the bubbles, you were not allowed to hold hands with their friends. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. So, you just say as much or little as you want, but what about sort of colleagues, people that you worked with or came to others? Have you got people that you knew who you think are also seeing things, or are you the only one? I don't know, unfortunately, not where I live. It's a very conservative area where I live. And they've gone along with everything. In fact, I've got a name for you. Actually, I've got to be very careful. No, it's all, you know, we're all fully, rather being fully doomed tonight. Yeah. And they can't see it. Some people can't see it. No, this is true. Yeah. Yeah. And just my hope is that there will be an awakening or a great awakening. Yeah. Sure. Well, I think there's going to be a great awakening, but it's a creeping awakening. People imagine that all of a sudden, lots of people are going to wake up. I never saw it like that. I think it's just slowly but surely. And it accelerates, but it's not going to be a hundred percent people awake up. It's going to be ten percent or fifteen percent. And that makes the difference. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. That's what my hope is. I want justice as well. I want justice for the people. I want justice for the children. I mean, the suicide rate of my research has gone up massively amongst young boys in particular. Right. And that's factual. That's on the Google website. So, things, things got me to change. Yeah. And that's what we're doing. And that's all I'm doing. That's all we're trying to do. Yeah, but you've done the right thing because you and a small number of other people have actually said, let's do something. This is the key bit. So, yeah. I mean, we started, the UK column started the first month. We published an A4 sheet printed on both sides. And we had 500 copies. And we pushed those down. The next month, we did another 500 copies. And the third month, maybe it's the fourth month, we did an A4 sheet, which was four pages. Right? And then people started to contact us. And when they contacted us, then we learned things. Do you know this is going on? Do you know this and that? And that's when we started to grow. So, you've got to start somewhere. Yeah. Mike has already had an interview with Dr. Maric. Yeah, yeah. He's also going to be actually being in contact with John O'Loon. Yes, I have, yeah. John O'Loon has sent him a stick with a box of information on that. We can publish on our website. Basically, we can direct some of your audience to us. You know, I think... Yeah, I know. We've started. We're talking, right? So, it started. But yeah, absolutely. This sandwich would work. And this is the beauty of the event today. Because, you know, the light newspaper came along and got going. And we're really impressed with what they've done. And they've invited us here. That's it. And it all begins to go. Not sure. Yeah. People start talking to each other, you know. Yeah. And hopefully the word spreads. I'm just sorry we can hope for. Okay, so, just to end, get you to do this. A summary of who you are and what you're trying to do. Okay, we're a small group of people in Dumfries who are trying... We have a website for a declaration of Dumfries. And we're trying to make it work. Yeah. Make people aware. Make people aware of basically what's happening. Yeah. You know, we're trying to get the truth out there. We publish. Everything we publish is factual. And it's based. So, you know. That's basically what we're trying to do. Okay, that's brilliant. And what about a website address? Can you tell us the website address? It's a declaration of Dumfries. Don't call more. If you type that in, declaration of Dumfries you'll find us. Okay. And it's fun of articles. It's fun of stuff that Mike's done. That's, like I say, it's got lots of information via fires. Right. And you'll find a lot of information there. Brilliant. So, there you are. You've done it. That was easy, wasn't it? So I saw a lot of people. Just talk normally. Yeah. Because what I wanted to raise was just a number. I've got five things to think about. But one of them, very simple. It's the more about the brainwashing and the names of organisations they use. But you see, we think of World Economic Forum as a hate object, right? But look, for the public, it's world. It's economic. It's a forum. What's wrong with something in the whole for the whole world? And a forum. It's just a discussion. So the name itself is to sell itself. World Health Organisation. I mean, it's whole world. What's wrong with health? Yeah. So, you know, again, it's too brainwashed us. And I think, look, look out for anything they come up with. That's all I'd say on that, actually. No, I agree. It's an important thing. And it ties in, I think, with what I started to say about charities. Yeah. Because something calls itself a charity, don't trust it, investigate it. But, yeah, they often choose names which are designed to lure people to think that it's, you know, altruistic. It's got people's best interests at heart. And, oh my goodness, we're having meetings. We're here to help you. In fact, don't worry. We will do your thinking for you. Okay. So... Well, I don't agree with that. Well, next thing about the origin of, you know, important figures in the world, and I don't know. The more I look, the more scared I become. Just a question. Who was Lenin? Just round a bit. Yeah. Trust it. That's it. Who was Lenin? Yeah. Well, Lenin was funded by the Germans and big banks to ferment the Russian Revolution. They wanted to get rid of a czar. That was the objective. But, what followed was this, you know, dictated downwards communism, right? So, the banks involved with backing Lenin wanted that. Now, of course, a lot of people thought, well, this is a step forward from, you know, rabid capitalism under the Victorian England. But, okay, you can think what you want, but it led to this dictatorship type of approach. Now, when Marx wrote the, you know, his labor theory of value, he had lots of ideas, but it didn't automatically lead to this dictatorship type of thing. Because one thing that followed was like cooperative socialism in what state? Well, when you look at that, I think, well, that's okay. What's the problem? So, why should we interpret Marx's writings about the labor theory of value to mean communist dictatorship rather than cooperative socialism? And it's interesting how, you know, one has come and overruled the other. And I just think that's very interesting. Where did these forces come from? Because it's clear that this communist dictatorship model is now adopted by the World Economic Forum. Not run by a state apparatus, not directly, but more or less directly. However, what's behind it is the megacorporations instead of what they called the common ownership of the means of production. This is a big, big subject piece, isn't it? Yes, it gives power to the, meggarly, not power to the workers, which was meant to be where the Communist Party was dealing. I had the pleasure of interviewing a guy called J. Michael Waller. A couple of weeks ago, he's written a book called Big Intel, but he's an interesting guy because basically he's got a background in CIA and American security. And in his book, of course, he gets into, when we're talking communism, what we're talking about, where did it come from, who created it. And you get into the conundrum that it certainly seems to me, the Communist ideology was developed largely by people in the West, funded by people in the West. Correct. That's right. He then takes it through and says that he's watched the subversion of American take place, whether it's, you know, woke culture, whatever it is, undermining the traditional values and morality of the US. And then he said... American constitution. Yeah. Is that amazing? Yeah. That would be good, you know, if it was. If it was. But then he said, but what we've got is that the very security services designed to protect America have also been taken over by the agenda. So you have the fact that the CIA and the FBI are running woke agendas, which is destroying their own performance. And I said to him, this is so fascinating because I can say to you, how is it you, as a man who's worked in these fields, you can see it, but all the other people inside the American security system apparently can't see it. But we've got the same thing happening with the British security services and other European ones, where a culture that's doing damage in our society is also damaging the way MI5 or MI6 or GCHQ is working. And there's only one answer to that, that the people who are controlling the security services are also part of the agenda. Correct. Yeah, there's no other explanation for it because, you know, we've seen MI5 and MI6 talking about recruiting and they're widening the pool of recruits. And Alex Thompson, who's a regular reporter with U.K. Coleman, his background is GCHQ. And he points out that essentially, excuse me, that we'd drop in the recorder on the floor, he points out that the quality of the people inside the security services has been weakened. They don't know the language, they haven't got the background on Russia or China or Eastern European states. So the damage is not only being done in the society, it's being done inside the organisations which say they're there to protect us. And therefore, we've got to look even higher because we've got to look above them. Who actually, sorry, I'm dropping stuff in front of the camera. It's all right, we're sat in the back of a car very close. So it's fascinating, you're now into this business, who controls these organisations? Who does it? It's not? Politicians, is it? No, no. No, well, there's loads of things to go on that. Well, Lenin said, in state and revolution, he says, the working class cannot lay hold of the ready-made functions of the state apparatus. It has to replace them. Well, that makes a lot of sense, but what did he replace them with because he actually took over the NKVD and turned it, which is the bizarre secret, please, and turned it into his own secret, please. It'd be nice to be interviewed by the BBC, wouldn't it? Oh, come on. You need to close the door. Come on, peers, there are limits, there are limits. All right, so next one, who was who? We see, list the mothers, but just go through them all well. Now, you know, we sort of worship stuff all well said, but on the other hand, there's a statue of all well at the BBC, and was he really, you know, detached, detached, telling us something good? Or was he there preparing us with all this stuff, you know what I mean? Because the effect of what he's done is actually that. I don't know if he's a good or bad person, but that's a very interesting question about all well. Another one, I'll just list them. Tony Benn. Now, who was Tony Benn? He came from a very rich background. He was on the committee of 300, which set the scene for the World Economic Forum. And he... I didn't know that, but he did. Very interesting. Now, he'd probably say, "Oh, peers, I'll have to be there to see what they're doing." OK, but who was he really? Because one of his key things in the Labour Party, he said, "People, we have to unite." Sounds good, doesn't it? Yeah. "We have to unite." But any organisation, like it's like a bird, it needs a left wing and a right wing. OK, so the Labour Party needs a left wing and a right wing. So the right shouldn't expel the left and the left shouldn't expel the right. But you see, that limits the Labour Party completely into pure social democracy, whereby they will just mark the troops up at the top of the hill and mark them down again. They'll make protest to beg the powers that be to give. And that happened in the general strike, 1929. The whole working class is on strike. And then they turn up to the cabinet and they ask, "What do you want?" And they said, "We want more money." And the government says, "We're not giving you." What did they do? They went back to work with the miners accepting lower wages than they had when they started. That was total defeat. They had all working class organised. Because they didn't have the ideology to take over. You see, they should have taken over all the communities. But they didn't have that. They were begging politicians to do it. So, that's a really interesting point. Think about Tony Ben, what he really did. I mean, everyone says a great guy. And I knew him, he gave me some really good advice. But in the bigger picture, what was he? Okay. There's other ones. Yeah, we've done, we've done Rockdale pioneers and Tony Ben. There was probably some other politicians I thought of, which I can't think of now. But I think we have to look deeper into all of these people. Because they will get influenced. Or even their part of something right at the start. We know now that I think Tony Blair and David Lammy were imported from the other side, well, from the WEF, straight into the Labour Party. Now, I was at a rally in 1997. We just won the general election, great staff in Stratford. And I'm with my mates, we've just seen all the campaigning, we've been praised. And I was one of the best organisers, they were some of the best campaigners. You know, stuff like that. This guy comes on stage. David Lammy is going to speak and we said, "Who's David Lammy?" None of us knew David Lammy was. He spoke and he was introduced as if he was the B's News. Well, he'd done nothing to my knowledge. But he was imported at that point, popped into Parliament and becomes, you know, the sidekick of all sorts of people to implement evil. So, what was it? That guy could cover, you know, what I mean? So, there will be people like this. And just be very careful of any progressives. So, shall we move on to my next one? Yeah, keep going, because you're into good stuff. All right. Number four, I've got on the list, is Vaxxis, the origin of vaccines. All right, you see, I think, okay, we can see the mRNA is a con. And then you go back and you see these different vaccines. Well, like, we've got this thing about blood poisoning, you know. Well, that was all connected with importing vaccines. So, is it this year? I'm pleased to look at criminal charges and the infected blood scandal, which is what, 30, 40 years ago. Well, which should look now at the murder going on. I mean, the biggest genocide in the world is happening now. 17 million people have been killed by this vaccine. So, how did we get to everybody believing in vaccines? I mean, it's step by step. When I was a child, it was, you know, one or two vaccines, that's all I had. Which is probably why I'm healthier than most people who were half my age. Because they've been jab, jab, jab, jab. But where did it all come from? And you look back. It was 1896. Jenna did this thing about smallpox, right? And learnt it allegedly. Chickenpox. Cowpox. Cowpox, rather, yeah, cowpox. And the milkmaids. Milkmaids didn't get ill. Because they were near the cows. But actually, that is a complete fabrication. He didn't do any tests involving milkmaids. He allegedly injected his own workforce, right? So, why did they make up a lie? Why didn't they just say what he did? And it was obviously because milkmaids are some nice people. You know what I mean? Well, if a milkmaid did it, it must be good. So, it was to sell. It was to sell it. It was to sell it. So, you know, where did it come from? It's to popularise the idea of injecting things straight into the blood. Look, the blood is protected from everything. It's the last place the body wants anything to go. And then it's become the first place that we, well, we, doctors want something to go. And so, maybe this idea of vaccination was really, you know, it goes right back to 1896, or before. Maybe it began at 1815 when, you know, when the Rothschilds made their millions by playing a trick about the outcome of the Battle of Waterloo. You know, they made their millions by playing a trick on the substance. Very clever stuff. But from that point on, perhaps that's when ruling of the world game began. And I don't know quite why they would choose vaccines. But what you think about it, once you've got the idea of injecting something into blood is good, then if you're in control, you can inject anything you want into blood. I mean, they might have been when they inject cyanide into people. But, you know, instead we've got this mRNA thing, which is very clever because some die, some don't. But in the end, long run, die, die, die. I just wanted to come in there and say, and of course you've got this business that people want to trust the people making the policy. These are, and now we're heading towards people who are, you know, they are medical. They're into the pharmaceuticals. These people have only got our best interest. No, no. This is a great mistake. And what are you doing here? You are using your intelligence and your professional training to ask simple penetrating questions about what's really going on. That's what everybody should be doing to the best of their ability. Anywhere's got knowledge should use it. I'll check their own knowledge, but use it. There's a man in Cornwall called Roberider, his window cleaner. That's what his business is. And he got very interested in vaccines. And he said, I knew that I couldn't go anywhere as a window cleaner and challenge what was happening because everybody laughed at me. So what he did is he collected the government's own data. And when you looked at the data, you find that their data does not match the results that they say the data gives. And he can show this very clearly. So he started to talk about the government's own data and the fact that vaccine policy was not producing healthier people. It was producing. Exactly. Unhealthier people. And that's not what really makes you go into that, do you? Yeah, and he's ended up, I think he's written about three little books now. But tremendous that a man took it on himself to take on the system using an evidence base and he uses their own evidence against him, against them. And this, this has achieved a lot. So you're coming in as an intellectual, qualified scientist and you're asking the key questions. But we've all said that. They're really upset. They're really upset. I did that in the raw society. The minutes of the subsequent meeting weren't there. There were questions and answers. But I nailed them completely. But they were shivering. They lost the argument. It's not recalled at all. Yeah. But the other end of the scale, we've got somebody, Rob's very modest man. He's a lovely guy when you meet him. He has taken the trouble to challenge the government on their own statistics. And he's got many letters where he's written to MPs or he's written into the Department of Health or he's gone to other medical bodies. And they cannot answer him because he's putting the evidence in front of them. And this is where, we're getting a little bit towards the end. But I just like to see people challenging the system in a very measured, controlled way, making sure they got the evidence first. And then you go and challenge these people on the basis of the real evidence that you hold. This is much more powerful than getting angry and having a demonstration outside the Department of Health or the MHRA offices. It's taking them on and showing that they're either deceiving people deliberately. Maybe they made a mistake. That's possible. But they made a mistake or they're deceiving people or they're deliberately deceiving people. So we've got malice. But people must stop believing that some unknown person has got their interests at heart better than their own mind, their own brain. You look after yourself. You look after your family. Don't believe a word these other people are saying until you've checked it. Absolutely. We'll drop a second then. We'll drop a second. Right up. Right up. There's just one. There's just three seconds left. OK, but I'll say really nicely I need to go because I've promised some other people. I'm happy to catch you later. You talk to the camera. I'm going to talk about ultra-conspiricism and evidence-based science, which follows straight from what you've just been saying. It's been great speaking with you. That's the way we use it. In this interesting studio, I'm going to thank you guys for allowing us in. And you've got plenty of these, haven't you? I have. I've also got Poppy the Dog with me. If you want to give me more leaflet, I'll take them. I do. But what we're showing in a live stream here is a little bit of networking and how we should all be helping each other to get this information on. It's a bit about boycotts. Yeah. Thank you very much. Yeah. There's a few of these. How many of these do you want? Oh, you give me what I like and I'll put them on there because there's still plenty of people coming to the UK. All right, still. So that's great. Take them all. Right. Fantastic. Right. Ryan, that was brilliant. And thank you very much. It was fun, wasn't it? I enjoyed that. Right. Let me press the wrong button because I pressed the right button because I pressed the wrong one the other day. So it's 10 past 10. It's pretty cold. The sky's gray and we're stood here on this muddy field. So I'm going to say, Mr. Charles Mallet, how have you found it? It's not that cold, Ryan. That's going to be my start. Well, that's because you've got bare legs and you're shorts on, but I'm-- Yeah. --expose yourself as the element. So what's your feeling on the first sort of music festival, the like special? Well, I think it's been absolutely fantastic and I've said it to a lot of the lovely people that have turned up to the UK column 10 and it's a marvelous opportunity for both parties. A lot of people have been very generous in their words and come to say all the things that are so much more meaningful when they're delivered face-to-face than they can ever be on a computer screen, but also iPhone, personally. It's a great chance to talk to the people that you're otherwise communicating to in a sort of one-way sense on the news and get to hear about stuff that drives them, motivates them, that interests them, also the stuff that they're deeply knowledgeable about, the stuff I've learned in the last three, two, three days is absolutely incredible. And it just cement in my mind that the extraordinary relationship the UK column has with the viewing and listening audience, it's remarkable, but this has been a great place for it. It's a brilliant mixture of fun and interest and culture and activity and music and, you know, jolity. I think people really need this stuff, they really do. It's de-stresses, the prevalent comment as I went around talking to people was always that they could talk easily to other people and they feel comfortable in the conversation and nobody was going to get upset because they were talking about it, so it was the human communication and contact side, which most people have enjoyed, which I think is brilliant. They really have. Yeah, I think that's been phenomenal for people and it's, okay, we are in the sort of far north-west, but people have come from fairly far and wide for this, I mean there are quite a lot of people from the area, but also, yeah, I've had a South Hamptoner, if that's the right word today, a lot down from Scotland, yeah, it's been actually brilliant, also a really good age range, you know, loads of families, masters and dogs as well, because it's been lovely. Yeah, well that shows something about the people as well, they all love dogs, well-behaved dogs I should say, yeah, but now I think it's been phenomenal and yeah, a great, great outing for UK column, I think we should, you know, we really should look forward to doing more of this when we can because I think it really does make a difference for everybody. Great, that's been great fun, brilliant, thank you for that little clip. So come on then Kenny, you've been there in this shop and a lot of people have come in, what's your, what's your impression of the people that have come to speak to us? Well you've got a person like this and it's all like-minded people getting together, it's as great as it, yeah, I'm quite, yeah, and people have said some really lovely things to us, with many of them finding the UK column during lockdown and then saying, someone just pulled me into the van, like they don't look quite dodgy, but they gave me a whiskey to say, thank you UK column, you kept me saying, it's like, well I'm just the helper guy, yeah, they're giving me free whiskey, so thank you UK column. Well, and we got a bottle of rum which we probably should deal with in a few minutes, so that's good, but it's been excellent, Claire's been very good because she was wary of camping, she was worried about bears but we did try and reassure her that this was unlikely in Campria, but she's done good, Poppy's done good, she's actually in her bed at the moment with her woolly jumper on and she's covered up by a blanket, but I think she's looking forward to a little bit of peace and quiet. So we're going to sign off now because we need to take stuff back to the tent and probably we need a cup of tea and a hot toddy and we'll say more to our UK column audience in the coming week, so thanks for all the support from all of you, it's been brilliant. Alright, we'll see you again, bye bye.