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Patspourri: How did Tom Brady & Bill Belichick do in their media debuts?

It's Patspourri! Fitzy and Hart take a look at the miscellaneous news, notes, and anecdotes surrounding the New England Patriots and the NFL at large, including the media debuts of Tom Brady and Bill Belichick, the Tyreek Hill situation, and the state of the AFC East. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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10 Sep 2024
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It's Patspourri! Fitzy and Hart take a look at the miscellaneous news, notes, and anecdotes surrounding the New England Patriots and the NFL at large, including the media debuts of Tom Brady and Bill Belichick, the Tyreek Hill situation, and the state of the AFC East.

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I want to start though, with Monday, before we get into Tom Brady and how he did on Sunday, I want to get in real quick to the former coach, who I know Chris Curtis from the Greg Hill Morning Show on it. Yeah, I said, oh, this team is so much better off without bell check at this point. There was a very funny Dan Shaughnessy line we shared on Sunday from his reaction column, where he said maybe they'll produce an 11th episode of the Dynasty documentary series and now, and call it who needs bell check. He went on the Pat McAfee show Monday and did his first like major in season appearance. It was also in the Manning cast Monday night and he seemed very comfortable. He was chatty, smiling most of the time. You can see how much he genuinely appreciates Peyton and now he and Eli have decided to call a truce. They're not going to bust each other's balls. He won't troll Eli. Eli won't rub the Super Bowls in his face. All good. Very fun. Good kind of a sports fan football guy chatter. However, I just I just got to say, I can't believe I cannot believe that Bill Belichick would be on the Pat McAfee show for 40 minutes and nobody asked him about his former team, his former protege with their surprising win, the biggest underdog from Sunday to get a dub, the way that they played, the effort that they put forth, even to tee him up softball style. No, this is not bell check eight number one audience. And number two, I just wanted to hear him speak on it. So when I'm asking this because I got all these shithead comments from the cesspool, that's fine. There were there was most a lot of them are shitheads, but all these people like crime or cope, like he owes you anything. Maybe he should maybe he should apologize for all of his Super Bowls. I'm so sick and tired of that cry baby protective. Oh, check out. You should be kissing his rings every day. I just wanted to know what the man thought about how the Patriots played on Sunday. I was hoping somebody would ask him, but if he went into that appearance at the op wherever he was and is like, Nope, guys, don't ask me about the Patriots and the McAfee show played along boo hiss. Well, first of all, these are your people. You know that you people you created these people you created this monster. Now you've lost control of the monster you helped create. Second of all, the McAfee show has become it's the new Oprah. It's it's a, you know, tickle fest pillow fight like it's the softest of landing spots for anybody. You're not going to get anything controversial there. But I also do wonder because we were still early in the week. And I because I know Bill did McAfee, then he did the Manning cast. I wonder with all of these endeavors he has. He's on beat Bobby Flay on the Food Network today. I would actually watch that. With all of these endeavors he has, is it possible that some of them he's promised content to like the first place each week, I'll talk about Gerard Mayo's performance as Patriots coach will be on the underdog pod or Patricia and Lombardi because he can't not make. Yeah, does he have to have content? Wow, that's a very good point. Promissory content notes like Pat, I'll give you general NFL. Peyton will talk about this game and our relationship. Patricia, you get that. Wow. That'd be weird if he had to do that. But he needs to at some point differentiate them all right. Try to give value to the people paying him. So I don't know. It might be. But it was weird. I agree with you for that long. It'd be one thing if he did a 10 minute segment. And I know they have the Boston Connor as this said. Yeah, as Los Tox Patz points out from Twitter. The fact that Boston Connor who I've communicated with before and is a super nice dude and he's a diehard Patz fan. The fact that the diehard resident Patz fan who was wearing Patz gear on the set didn't even ask a question must mean that there is something contractual either contractual or quid pro quo or favor whatever it is. And maybe he won't talk about them at all because we remember I asked you post game. Do you think he's even happy for Gerard Mayo and Gerard Mayo was asked on the Greg Hill show has your predecessor reached out and he said I'm not going to get into that which is smart. That's not a yes or a no, but it certainly feels like a no from Gerard Mayo. So and Mayo and Mayo completely had to avoid it. Yeah, that's that what you're saying. Like that's awkward. The reality is Bill was pissed at Mayo for taking his job. Bill stopped talking to a midway through last season. Bill hasn't talked to him since. And I think Callahan and Bolden both sort of reported on that to a degree. Well, I mean, it's a lot of rumblings. It's the fact is Bill stopped talking to Gerard Mayo in the middle of last season. Hasn't talked to him since did not wish him well when he took the job. Bill felt undercut at some point. I think when contractually it was written in that the head coach in waiting was right there. The whole thing. So it doesn't surprise me if Bill wouldn't reach out to him. It's kind of sad, but it also doesn't surprise me. And we've also talked about one of the things I do love about Bill is his ability to kind of be a baby and be vindictive and hold a grudge and those things because I do those things. So Bill, it's not the proper way to do it as an adult. So you see yourself in Belichick? Yes, I would tell him from afar, it's not the proper way to do it as an adult, as a professional, but it might be the way I do it. And I appreciate it, Bill. No, I see and I feel you coach at the same, you know, I, you know, a Lannister always pays his debts and I for an eye exactly. And nobody holds a grudge like a Belichick. But the same time, I just want like, if he's able to do inside the NFL and coach with Patricia and Lombardi or the fob show on underdog fantasy and doesn't talk about it, then I mean, that'll just be the strangest thing in the world. Now, speaking of talking about it and how you speak about it, now we've had a day to digest Brady's debut as color analyst one on the Fox NFL broadcast. It wasn't great, not going to lie. But Andy, do you think it's because Brady was nervous? Do you think it's because it's just difficult? It's a tough undertaking. And even though he called the full pretend season of games with Burkhardt to warm up, that there's still just the natural lights or bright booty holes get tight nerves. Or is it because he's kind of compromised with this foolish pursuit of like 2% ownership of the Raiders, which will never allow him to be the Tom Brady. We need him to be in the booth. No, I think part of it is first time. It's not easy. Even if you do practice games, I think it's probably not the same as knowing the cameras are live. But I also, I was one that said from the beginning, I didn't think Tom would be very good at it. You know what I think his biggest problem is? He gives an F. He cares what people think. And if you care what people think, you can't be comfortable, natural, energetic. You know what I mean? Like you're thinking about everything you're saying. And I just, I think that will hinder his ability to be a good color analyst. I actually think I said this yesterday with Arkand. I think Fox should pull the plug already. And I think Fox should take him and reassign him as just a simple quarterback analyst. Do a one off show per week where he breaks down every quarterback in the NFL. Do it in the off season and have him break down every draft pick. Sort of like the old member, the old Gruden bus or Gruden grinder? I don't know. Oh, yeah. Oh, the QB camp or like, do that. Yeah. Because after he and Sean McDonough didn't get along and they still had Gruden on the deal for a while. They said, but I loved those. And I think Brady is good at those. I don't think he can do the live reactionary. I mean, hell, he even had so little emotion that Scott Hanson called him out and then Scott Hanson felt bad because his boss told him to apologize. And then Brady actually handled the apology pretty well. No big deal brother kind of thing. And but I never had an expectation that Brady would be certainly not worth $37 million because I don't know anybody that could be worth $37 million. No. And like, look, listen, Greg Olson won the Emmy two years in a row. I still think Joe Buck and Troy Aikman are the best one to punch when it comes to, you know, play by playing analysis in the NFL. I wish they were back on Fox so I could hear them. Well, actually, I get to him every Monday night, which is fine. But yeah, I just Brady didn't do it again. It's week one. We're going to have to give him a couple of weeks to see if he revs up. There have been like, Hey, first, I thought the first episode of Kirby enthusiasm sucked. And then next thing I know a couple episodes later, it turns into my favorite one of my five favorite shows of all time. These things happen. Just like with TV shows, you give a movie 30 minutes, you give a TV show like three episodes before you decide I'm in or I'm out usually. We have to give him a few weeks, but reserved, dead air spaces sometimes after big plays because Burkhardt is just like already in mid-season form. I had to be in him. I don't know what he makes, but he's obviously making a fraction of what Tom Brady makes and thinking like, wait, I got to queue this guy up. I got to jab this guy and tell him how to do his job. And he's making X times what I'm making. That's going to be a little frustrating with Burkhardt because he's a true professional, but it was awkward for a minute one. I just love being your partner. Well, you guys are literally in the first minute of your first broad stuff. How do you know? How do you know? You seem to have really good chemistry with the previous guy who got demoted to B team and had to take a $7 million pay cut so they could pay Brady $35 million too much. And it just, the problem was that that deal was so absurd, it created a level of expectations that if Brady didn't come in and change the way you heard football called forever, then everyone's just going to be like, nope, this guy sucks. Now I'm out. He's awful. He was the go to football. He is the go, the wrong kind of go to broadcasting. So it does seem like a kind of impossible scenario for him as well. Lastly, let's just get to any other NFL storylines, goings on, that caught your eye, merited attention, that may or may not have involved body cam footage. Oh, you want to get into Tyreek Hill and what a disaster. What a bet. What an awful, awful, awful, awful, awful handling of any human being, let alone somebody who pumps money into, I don't care what you think about the 10 babies and the six baby mamas and his previous behaviors. That's all not great. And I'm no card-carrying member of the reek fan club. That said, the way that was handled. I don't want to replay the body cam footage now for everyone. No, we don't be saying it. Go find it. Everybody has seen it. It was so bad. It was it was really damning to police officer and African American engagements and relations. It was terrible for Miami-Dade County. They're literally right outside the stadium. The guy's like, I play for the day. That's one of our star players. You hear the guy saying, I just had knee surgery, easy bro. Like, well, which I don't really know if that's, I mean, I watched the game afterwards and he ran 80 yards. I think his knee is fine. Like he's the fastest guy in the field. I mean, the reality is Tyreek Hill did not handle it well initially. He was kind of a dink. And then the cops were like, well, if you I'll see your dink and I'll raise it 10 fold because then the dinkiness just exploded. And then old friend John who Smith shows up. Yeah. And there's Kaleas Campbell, who's a gentle giant and like, John who Smith, maybe one of the cops was like, Hey, I'm a past fan. You stole money from us. Are you ruining my fantasy team? Pete, the animal Austin watching live on YouTube right now, Andy on the six rings pod. Don't mess with the cops in Florida. They are nasty. I don't know. Right. And, and John who Smith, like somebody said, I felt bad for Johnny. You could tell he was really rattled. Yeah, because he stopped because his buddy, his teammate, his friend is in a situation. And you know, you're just trying to be a good guy and a good teammate. And I saw Mike McDaniel talking about that, who he annoys me. He overdramatizes everything. Like Mike McDaniel, not a not a huge fan. He's I mean, he's a brilliant offensive architect, but he's also like an unemployed beat poet and stand up comic. And it's just like, yeah, he's a caricature of himself. Like he tries to he's like swerved into what he people think he is. I don't know. But it's a bad situation for the league. It's a bad situation for the the cops. Like everybody looked bad because they even got into the whole race thing. We're like, some guys was like, I'm way, we're all brown here. So this is not one of those things or whatever. And it was like, okay, now black and brown. And now we're doing colors. And the whole thing was just, and I do unfortunate. I mean, I've had interactions like that with cops. Cops have an arrogance to them. It's just the reality. And I support cops some anti-cops. Right. Yeah, we are pro blue here. Oh, I like to work blue. Andy likes to support the blue. They they have the toughest job on the planet. I firmly believe that because every time you approach a car, you could be shot. And that's just the reality of the situation. It's awful. That's why you want to keep the window down hands on the wheel so you can see where they are. And I disagree with some of the commenters here on our live commenting on this podcast recording. I don't think the mass hole cops or just the mass state police, despite what J von Baker and some other knuckleheads may say, I have a lot of friends. I'm friendly with a lot of them. I've told you guys before on the pod and I've said it at the stadium. Nothing I love more than walking across the street to say hello to some fans and lots and get a feel for the Fox bro faithful. And the cops say, Hey, Fitzy, I'll be doing today. How are we looking today? I heard you on the radio about like they we chat. They're real people too. It's a tough, thankless job at times. But when you in the day and age of like accountability, body cam footage and more, you've got to be mindful of this. You can't overextend yourself to that regard. And I think they own the I think what probably sealed the deal was the way the Kaleis Campbell thing was handled. Because he's just like, I'm, that's my friend. I'm just making sure he's okay. I'm okay. I'm, I'll get my license. And the guy's like, you're dealing with me now. He just want he he lost it. And he shouldn't he can't lose it. His job is to not lose it. His training is to not lose it. And that's why I have like, I couldn't be a cop. Like a man's going to know his weaknesses. I couldn't be a cop. I would never handle the situation properly. I think I would escalate the situation improperly like that guy did. But when you sign on the dotted line to take that job, that's what you sign up for. And it takes the right it's like the military. I could never be in the military. Like that takes a certain type of person for that lifestyle. And that's why I think we're all so appreciative of the military and of cops and officers that do such a difficult, thankless job. But when you do the job, you're going to do it a certain way. And you know, you're going to deal with dinks. You're going to deal with dinks in a Ferrari who thinks he's entitled to not put his window down. And and Tyree kill had that. Like that was his offense. And then I don't know what he actually got pulled over for. I know it's seatbelt, but was it 100? Was he doing 100? I said like 125 dude was not doing 125 miles an hour. I mean, I don't know how he could be on his way into a game. Like it's traffic. It's like, and if he was, that also is a layer to it. Because that's not speeding. That's like driving to endanger. That's driving to endanger. And like we've said before, how many different people from the Henry Ruggs to Jordan Addison and others have been involved? Jalen Carter, I believe on the problem. It's the biggest problem with with young athletes right now is speeding and drag racing and cars. It's it's like superseded other problems that have come along over the years drinking or whatever. Like the speeding is an issue. But it's just unfortunate because it didn't need to probably go the way it went. It went sideways in a hurry. Unfortunately, and it's a little bit of a black eye on the first weekend of football. And I worry just in general about our country when we're always sort of on seemingly the precipice of issues like this kind of exploding going from brush fire to bonfire. I mean, is this going to turn it like he was on CNN last night? Is this going to turn into a debate question tonight? Well, here we are on the day of the day before 9/11. God bless everyone affected by that and never forget. But also, is this going to be a debate question tonight? And what is the most important presidential debate in ages? And who's who's debating? What's that? Who's debating? It's a it's a white man with certain views about him and a black woman with certain views about her. Right? Like there's I feel like this could work. Yes, it could. And it could get it could very well, like a lot of things in this country. Unfortunately, become contentious. It's a good use. I think Tyree kill is actually trying to put it to good use. I don't think he's necessarily pretending he's a saint. But it'll be interesting to see how this is handled by the dolphins, by the NFL, by the players at large. I'll be interested, quite honestly, to hear, for example, from two guys who are ex-patriots, who are now in various media jobs, but Jason and Devin McCordy, who were very active in the state of Massachusetts, these social issues and have gone through the George Floyd era and the kneeling and the Kaepernick and right and saw how these were handled and get maybe get their opinions on how this should be handled, where it should go, how it could be put to positive use moving down the road. So it'll be interesting to see where it goes this week, but it's a it's a massive topic right now. Mistakes like this, mistakes like this, are only to our benefit if they can be used as teachable moments and we learn and we grow and we improve the quality of those people's lives and the lives of everyone affected by that or who may find themselves in a similar situation down the road. All right, Andy, great pod. As always, thank you guys for all of your comments and contributing to an excellent podcast. 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It's Patspourri! Fitzy and Hart take a look at the miscellaneous news, notes, and anecdotes surrounding the New England Patriots and the NFL at large, including the media debuts of Tom Brady and Bill Belichick, the Tyreek Hill situation, and the state of the AFC East. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices