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Good News, Bad News: ABC Rigged Debate Hard Against Trump, But Polls Show Kamala Loss | 9.11.24

The first presidential debate between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris is in the books and boy was it a doozy.  ABC and its moderators, David Muir and Linsey Davis, skewed the debate heavily in Kamala's favor, fact checking Trump throughout the night and not fact checking or asking for a followup from Harris once. Drew and the team break down some highlights and lowlights from the debate, and share what the American people thought in the aftermath of the debate. SOCIALS: https://linktr.ee/drewberquist NEWS: https://RVMNews.com MERCH: https://RedBeachNation.com#DrewBerquist #ThisIsMyShow Protect your savings with a faith-based precious metals company at https://GoldwithDrew.com Fight aches and pains, as well as chronic inflammation with Sweetamine. Use promo code DREW to save $5 off your order at https://Sweetamine.com Be prepared for the worst with food you actually want to eat. Visit Prepper All Naturals at https://PreparewithBeef.com and use promo code RVM to save 25% off today! Silver Prepper Bars - Buy it. Break it. Trade it. https://prepperbarnow.com

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The first presidential debate between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris is in the books and boy was it a doozy.  ABC and its moderators, David Muir and Linsey Davis, skewed the debate heavily in Kamala's favor, fact checking Trump throughout the night and not fact checking or asking for a followup from Harris once. Drew and the team break down some highlights and lowlights from the debate, and share what the American people thought in the aftermath of the debate.


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There's no two ways that this day changed everyone's life in a big, big way forever. Some people more than others. So certainly praying that people find the peace and comfort that they need on this day, which again, regardless of how or why it happened was absolute tragedy, absolute game changing for this country. Certainly was for my family, I can tell you that much. So thinking about folks on this day, you did have Trump, Cam Cam, Biden, Bloomberg, Schumer, all these people lying up there. By the way, what a lot of people didn't show as soon as that thing was done. Cam Cam and Biden, they be lying out of there so fast. It's remarkable. >> They're not going to mingle with the peasants. >> No, of course not. They're probably whispering to themselves. Why are we here? Like, what is this? Well, you know Biden. >> I don't remember. Some people did something. >> Yes, but you know Biden was like, where am I? >> Yeah, I was just told to stand here. >> Just told to stand here. 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So let's, I'm going to warn you, one, if you're here for kind of the variety that the show typically is, there's not going to be much sports around today because we have a lot to break down as it pertains to the debate last night. And we're probably going to go all over the place. But in terms of structure, what we're going to try and do is just give some thoughts and discuss some ideas off the top kind of in summary. Then we'll get into some specific clips. Then we'll talk about the aftermath and what has come. And that'll kind of be the order that we go throughout. But I'll say this, we texted about it last night, Tom. I think you mentioned it first, but I was noticing this watching with my wife. The cam cam cam looked nervous in this debate, looked at a source even with help, even with help from ABC, looked nervous. And I also want to remind people too, as we have this discussion, because different people come in, new folks, folks from the left, folks from the right, want to just remind everyone that we're talking about all these cam cam last night, talking about all these policy changes and things they'd want to do. Just another reminder, we've said it before and we'll say it again multiple times. The Democrats have controlled the White House and the federal government for 12 of the last 16 years. So when they talk about all the changes they want to bring and the things they want to do, whether it's in a debate at a campaign event from the White House itself, whatever the case might be, please do keep that in mind. It's pretty common sense, pretty easy stuff like, yeah, but you guys are there now. And you've had it for the vast, vast majority of the last two decades. But overall, look, I would say the night did not on the surface, on the surface. When you're watching it and experience it like so many of us did, it didn't go as well as everyone wanted to, and it didn't go as everyone wanted to, because it was very clear, excuse me, that it was a three on one debate, which makes it really difficult for Trump. Like Trump, don't like Trump. You should have seen that. You should have seen how David Meer and Lindsey Harris, excuse me, Lindsey Davis, let Harris get away with all sorts of lies. I mean, she was that bingo car, I was thinking about the damn bingo card the whole night, everything that was on there, I think was mentioned, Charlottesville, suckers and losers, police officers dying on January 6th, Trump's involvement in January 6th, so many things came up and Davis and Meer didn't fact check her on any of it. They went after Trump on all of it. Kamala said that we have no soldiers in war zones, thanks to this administration. Which I'm sure was quite a surprise to the soldiers in war zones looking at Iraq, Syria, Ukraine, Somalia, the rest of the Horn of Africa, so many places, plus places that people don't even talk about or know about, but just the ones that we do know about, like, well, we got troops there. Some of you have loved ones there in any or all of those places, but they fact check Trump on everything, not everything, but they fact check Trump and Trump alone. They, at minimum of four times fact check Trump, you know how many times they fact checked Kamala Harris, zero. You know how many times that they interrupted and then press and/or pressed one of the candidates for follow up response, they pushed Trump six times to clarify, questioning what he was saying, they did that zero times for Kamala. I mean, it just, it was absolutely, I'll be honest with you, I went back and watched all the clips and the parts that I missed, but as it pertains to last night, I got about, I told the boys, I got about 45 minutes in, I was like, I'm done. This is so infuriating to watch because it is portraying the exact opposite of the truth to the American people, and I just couldn't do it. I was like, honey, we're watching something else. You know what we did, we went and watched Bad Monkey, which is a delightful little show with Vince Vaughn, and that made me happy, was much more enjoyable, and then caught up on the rest later and in the morning. But man, what a frustrating, frustrating debate. It was extremely frustrating, and the moderators, they weren't moderators, they were coaches for Kamala. Moderators for a debate need to be like referees during a game. If you don't notice the referees, they're good referees. If you don't notice the moderators, they're good moderators. And what we saw last night, what, as you were saying, was three on one, and Trump was doing the best he could to deflect the incoming fire from all around him. I also think not having an audience there played to Trump's disadvantage, because when you go into a situation, when Trump goes into a situation like that debate, where it's three on one, at least they're going to be some friendlies in the audience where you get that energy from. With everybody with the three that were there, it's all of negative energy coming at him. So just as far as like the natural energy field, the deck was really stacked against him. No, it was. And he went, he went a little bit off course at points last night, and which is somewhat expected for Trump, but it's absolutely expected when you're in the situation that you just described, Tom, when everyone's ganging up on you, you're getting no love and support. She's getting no pushback whatsoever. Hurry. Someone mentioned here, I was going to mention later, I'll show a clip of it in a bit here, but like there was a moment there, at least a couple actually I can think of, but one that we have a clip of her mic seemed like it never was really muted that much. It's just, you couldn't, you couldn't look at that if you were being fair, if you didn't come into this debate as a anti-Trump person or a, or a anti-camp, whatever, if you just came in and could be objective, I know that's a hard thing to do in America these days. I just don't know how you didn't see how unfair and unbalanced this whole thing was. CNN, when they did the one before with, with, with Trump and Biden before he admitted he was dying, that one actually, the moderators didn't do that bad of a job. They did, they did relatively well. This one was, as you said, Tom, these weren't moderators. These were active participants in the debate for the Democrat party and it was, and that's, again, that's why I had to turn it off at one point. It just was so frustrating and, and they got him spun up and off going off the rails sometimes, which was very much their objective. You know, they coached her. I mean, clearly they coached her like you're too dumb to say anything. Just make these faces and weird, weird responses during it throughout because it's going to make just like, I mean, literally, it was just simple things like that. But you also know that for some American people that work like, yeah, oh, she's making that face like what he's saying must be stupid. That's how stupid everything is in this country, right? And they must have had a return somewhere where they could see if they were on camera because in that first response, I texted like the faces. They cut to the split screen while Trump's talking and then at first she's sitting there and then she's like, like she starts overacting and it's, it's like someone told her you have to make faces. Yeah. No, I, I particularly like this move. Yes. The glamour shot. Oh my gosh. It's like, what are you doing? Did you, did you focus group that and think it was going to work out? Well, I mean, let's not forget that they did that that they come apart of her debate prep included like the second in charge of CAA, which is one of the largest talent agencies in Hollywood and across the world, helping her along with other actors coming in to help her along to become, become presentable. But what I thought was really strange at the beginning is when they walked on stage, Trump went to his podium and she like ran around the other podium and her introduced herself as Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, nice to meet you. I went, the fact that they had the mic open for that, I just was, oh my gosh, that was so weird. I halfway expected to be like, I'm Kamala Harris and I'm wearing a pantsuit like she was extremely nervous the entire time, up to the point where Trump bit on the size of his rallies. Once that, that was to me, it was sort of, that really got under Trump's, that's when she started to settle down and got into this comfortably smug sort of zone in the debate. Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree. That was telling. And then several of those moments stacked on top of that where she got more comfortable just being a smug bitch, not saying anything, just lying through her teeth. And he got frustrated and had some more traditional Trump moments. And then I know we're just doing the summary, but the fact that he was in a room where he knew everyone was against him, it wasn't just three to one, everyone in that room, directors, producers, cameraman, everyone. Yeah. He did, yes, he did take the bait. He did kind of go off the rails, but he could have, he could have went further. Oh. And you could see his frustration. Yeah. And he was doing a good job trying his best. Don't get me wrong, during the debate, it felt like we were losing big time because everyone was against us. And I don't say us meaning like I'm all team Trump this down there, us meaning common sense practical values, things that won't destroy the country, those types of those thoughts and feelings. It felt that way. And I think Trump did, I thought he was obviously a little bit more measured in the last one, but considering the hate that he got, I think that he did go off the rails, but he did keep it together better than I would think old Trump would have done under those circumstances. But I definitely felt like Trump was like, remember Black Hawk down when the Black Hawk goes down in Gary Schugard and Randy Gordon, a character, Delta operators go in to protect Mike Durant and the Somali starts surrounding him and there's gunfire coming from everywhere. That's what I kept envisioning was going on with Trump in the way that he was getting hit from all sides. Yeah. Yeah. No, it just was. Well, and it was so frustrating too, because they're going after Trump and I'm saying they, like cam cam didn't have to do much. Muir and Davis, going after him, questioning him, fact checking him on stuff that their fact checks were not true or accurate. But if you're a undecided vote or you think, well, maybe, maybe it's, maybe they're being fair. Maybe this is true. But you see those things happening and then you would just hear what she was saying, either not responding at all, which is typical in a lot of these debates. A lot of times people skirt the issues, but not responding at all or just lying through it. I mean, we could spend not just the entire episode. We could spend in a day breaking down all of the nonsense that she said and how she lied about stuff. Let's talk about a few and we'll show some video for a few. We know that this came up last night that she supported bailing out Minnesota protesters. She tweeted it. You can still see that tweet everywhere. We've all seen it a million times. She just gave her her, you know, I didn't do that look, which, which is always her response. But again, you tweeted it and I don't know if it's still up today. It was as of not too long ago, like you're dumb enough to understand or you should be smart enough to understand you should take that down. But she's dumb enough where she's kept it up. So it's easy to call that. We know that she wasn't at the Capitol, as she said during January 6. She was there on January 6, but CCTV video shows her leaving at like 11 11 something in the morning. She wasn't there. She said that she wasn't going to confiscate guns. And yet she's always said that she would, and she even just said it recently. Here's our first clip that we'll look at. This was not during the debate. This was in the weeks and months leading up to the debate. Take a listen. I think it's a great idea, but I mean, listen, I don't think we lack for great ideas. As I've said many times, we've been having great ideas for decades. The problem is that Congress does not have the courage to act. And that is why from the beginning, I have said my agenda includes attempting to make it Congress to act. But if they don't within the first 100 days of my administration, I'm going to take the second election. Because what we need is action. So I'm not taking your guns, but if Congress doesn't do it, which is Trump said they won't, I'm going to. And he said that about abortion and other things too. But if Congress doesn't do something in the first 100 days, I'm going to do it unilaterally and do what I want. And what I want is what I've said forever and a day is I want to deteriorate the Second Amendment. I'd like to eliminate it, but at least deteriorate it and take away your guns. We just showed clips in the last week about it, about Warnock and others. What the hell was that, Tom? That was all the cleaning, baby. Yes. I love it. You tell her she was live on air. No, but but they were talking as recent as last week about gun confiscation, gun buyback program. So you know who she is, then she said, I'm, I'm not going to do that. Just I'm not against, you know, fracking. I'm not. She just lied through her teeth and all those things. Another point of contention though, during the debate was abortion. Lots of talk about that. Obviously it's been a point that cam cam has hit on a lot, women's bodies, women's rights. And no one has understood and Trump did, I thought, a good job of outlining last night. How hey, you don't like this, but what we did is actually give people the right to vote in their particular states on how we want to do this, which is, by the way, how almost everything is supposed to operate in our government. And that's what happened when Roe versus Wade was, was struck down, but they wouldn't get it. But they don't get that because they don't get the constitution. They haven't read it. I'm pretty convinced. And then I love to speaking of that just as a side point that she said he wants to abolish the constitution. It's like, are you kidding me? Are you freaking kidding me? Like, do you understand how dumb that sounds? And she said things like that. I'm going, she's never listened to anything he's ever said. And someone said, this is what you need to say. Oh, it's you. Okay. It's a talking point. So talk is such a book that those, those types of ones, they are reckless. They're so reckless because they're so untrue and so unfounded. I get some of the other political jabs, but man, that one was rough, but they kept talking about abortion and their bait about how far into term you could get in various states throughout the country. And she's saying that Trump wants to ban it everywhere. Trump's saying, no, I just want to give it back to the states, which we did. And then the states will decide what they want to do, which they're doing. Some are banning. Some are saying it's six weeks. Some are saying it's this. Some are saying it's, you know, wherever on that spectrum. But ABC, both, both Muir and Davis, along with Kamala Harris, all kept saying it's not that bad. It's not that bad. It doesn't get that far into the term. There's none after birth. There's none at this point, in this point, it's all at the early point, which is just not true. What's funny though is ABC themselves put out this chart this summer, just months ago. And you can see the different states and how they do things. Here's that ABC News bug right in the bottom. Yeah. ABC News right in the bottom. You can see they put it out and you fact-checked Trump on everything last night as it pertains to this. But the darker reds are near total ban are up to six weeks. Purple gets up to 12 weeks, which only has two states, Nebraska and North Carolina, orange up to 15 peach up to 18, green 20 to 26 weeks, lots of green. And then the lighter blue up to the third trimester, which is Virginia. And then no restrictions based on just a gestational duration, you'd think would not be many, but you've got what? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, nine or 10, looks like on there. First glance. And nine. But, but man, for saying, oh, this, that is such a perfect picture of the night. That's not happening. Okay, well, your chart that you just put out and reality says otherwise, but at least to me, that was a perfect picture. And it's hard too, because you talk to people. There's people just out there that don't see this stuff. They hear what Trump had to say and everything. And they're like, it's a total lie, but then you try to present the facts to them. And they're like, well, show me the babies. And you're like, what, like, show me the proof. Okay, so you want me to like, go in and like have a camera and like do a, you know, do it. Oh, Keith does. And like hidden camera. Like here, here they are. Yeah. It's not going to happen. You're never going to see that. And you don't want to. No, golly. No, it's, it's, it's crazy because it's, it's my wife when we were out in New Mexico, saw some after birth that happened on the floor she worked at. And she had to deal with that, like crying in the shower for days because she had to see that happen. It was awful. Yeah. And it's, it is happening. Yeah. It's done. There's nowhere else to go after that. It's like the freaking cat thing, which of course came up last night. I kind of wish it hadn't, but it came up, it came up and she was coached to laugh and she did. And then, you know, uh, what's his, what's his douche mirrors like, well, the city manager says it's not happening. And then they just stop. They're happy with that. They don't do any more investigation. We got the answer we want to get where we're done having this conversation. Despite the fact that we've shown videos, there's firsthand reports, there's police reports. There's all, I mean, there's copious amounts of evidence to the contrary out there, but that just was a perfect picture of the night. But what's concerning, and then this is a weird thing to even say that was going to say what's concerning about this and the abortion stuff and the constitution is it really everything in this country is concerned these days, but that, that, that the country, we talked about this when this happened too, that the populace doesn't understand that giving things back to the states is a good thing. Does it lead to, it leaves people having the ability to vote and have a voice on the issue, which is a good thing for everyone. Does it lead to some states, possibly not having the values that you want, but yes, that's absolutely true. But the good news is you can move. There is this balkanization that's happening. So you've, you've got that, but they just don't understand that this is a good thing. You know, to tend to rants that he should have said state issue next question, the problem is you're right, 100% right. The problem is the people watching a lot of them don't understand that. They want daddy government telling them what to do. They want to give everything to the federal government. Let's, I want to give you more taxes. I want to give you more this, more that. I want you to tell me what to do on every day on a daily basis. That's just who they are. And that's what's so ridiculous because if you could break it down and have a level-headed conversation in a coffee shop or whatever shit that they want to do, wherever they want to have that setting, you would think that everyone would agree, I want more rights and freedoms to make some of these crazy decisions, whether it's abortion or whether it's drug related, or whether it's whatever, fill in the blank, go somewhere that agrees with you. But none of them want that. They want a government with full tyrannical control of their rights, of the rights of people around them. And that's what's so maddening. Well, they always say, my body, my choice, and when the SCOTUS did that, brought it back to the States, all right, it is now your choice. They'll go vote. Go talk to people. Try to get them to suede with you. So they go vote, so the change happens. But they don't see it that way. Yeah. At all. Now, and people on the left really enjoy being told what to do. We saw that during COVID, they absolutely love the fact of having to lock down in their houses and have people bring them their food. And when they went out to wear a mask to show their piety toward the religion of science, they enjoyed staying six feet apart. They enjoyed telling on their neighbors who are having gatherings more than five people. They enjoyed tyrannical control. They can't be happy to see other people being happy and living their own lives. They demand compliance and conformity. And it's funny because a lot of people on the left, like the fancy themselves, is being, oh, you know, I'm open-minded, freewheeling, I'm artistic. At the end of the day, you're not. You just want to be a part of the crowd. You want to be a cog in the wheel. There's nothing about you that says that you're your own individual. You just want to conform. You have a necessity to conform. Yeah. No, that's absolutely the truth. It's absolutely the truth. Yeah. I mean, the masks were literally a badge of honor for them. A badge of honor. It was joy. Like, I think they all want them back. F News says. Oh, for sure. F News says, come to Michiganja, or for weed, not abortions. Yeah. Well, it was frustrating. It was a very, very frustrating night. We have plenty more to get to, but I want to get to our question of the day. We'll tie in that to some of the other responses nationally and everything later. But here's my, here's my question to you. Who do you think won the debate? Who do you think won the debate and, and, and don't just, not, it's not who you wanted to win the debate. We know the answer to that. Who do you think won the debate in terms of how it's being perceived, how it was perceived? Let us know your responses. We'll do the same as well. Well, we've got your attention, folks. Hopefully you are taking your sweet amine stress and everything else in our lives or diets, all that kind of stuff leads to excess inflammation, makes our body work a whole lot harder than it needs to, leads to aches and pains, all that kind of stuff. You can fight inflammation with sweet amine and our good friend, Dr. Joel Bryn, who'll actually be, is supposed to be in the program tomorrow, we'll talk to him more about the science of this, again, just so you hear it from the horse's mouth, not just me. But this is an amazing product. 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So start however you want, but use promo code drew, go to sweet amine.com, take your health back, start feeling better. You'll be glad that you do. Okay. Question of the day was who do you think won? Now who you wanted to win? Who do you think won the debate? Okay. Ginger says ABC did. Yeah. That's a good response. Chaos agrees. ABC with the win. Yeah. Again, it doesn't have to be Trump or a camp camp. It can be ABC who definitely chalked up a big victory for tyranny there. Sanders says, but Trump won, she lied or dumb ass off. That's true. Keep sending your responses. And by the way, hit that like button if you have not whichever platform you are watching the show on today, whether you're watching live, whether you're watching later, please do hit that like button. Tom, who are you going with? I'm going with a draw. Okay. I think that they fought to a draw. They debated to a draw. Clearly, Carmelo should have thrown a knockout punch and been done with everybody that was teamed up against Trump. I mean, how many weeks did you prepare for this like five or something? And the fact that I'm calling it a draw because she wasn't, she didn't let, she landed a few jabs here and there and it was to try to get Trump off balance. But she didn't, for me, she didn't answer any questions. But I think for a lot of people who don't know her, it was sort of enough just to get by. And, oh, yeah, she's not that bad. You know, she's all this stuff about her being a communist and this and that. She's not really a communist. I was listening to her. She sounds like, you know, a good old JFK Democrat. And that's, I'm afraid when you have the low information people like that out there and low vibrational people, they're going to be suckered into it just like they were with everything that happened with COVID. Yeah. No. Okay. I think those are good points. What do you think? You know, the opening remarks from cam cam how it's, she started like, he's going to spew lies tonight. It was like, oh boy, here we go. But the fact that he got the closing words, he got the last remarks, the final, like that. Awesome. He could have done a little more on those closing remarks, but I'd say it was a little bit neck and neck. I think the, for the nation, the people who are on the other side are undecided. They may probably have seen cam cam as the winner. Yeah. And it just by a little bit, just because he took the bait and there was times where he kind of went off, killed through, came back. So it's, but to me, I think Trump won because Kamala's team has already requested another debate. If she thought she actually won it and her team thought she won it, we don't need to debate anymore. But now, oh no, let's do another one because we got to clean some stuff up here. So I think it's, it's, it's a, it's a Trump just by a little and not saying that he didn't do a good job. I feel like he did a, he did a, he did a great job. Yeah, he was up against a lot. He was up against a lot. And it was, it was between a rock and a hard place last night. And I agree with Tom. No audience there was, was to try to stighten him, you know, like to, you know, make him feel like he's in a tinderbox. Yeah. Uh, okay. Ottawa James Trump won in a three versus one debate. Um, chaos is the moderators. They talked as much as Trump and then muted him never muted cam cam. Sorry. I keep going back to that. It's a good point though. It's true. Text says, I'm with chaos agrees with the moderators. Question of the day winners. Anyone who didn't watch your lessons as court court. There's some truth to that. When I switched off, it, it certainly was a lot better for my soul. Uh, Barb says the moderators plus cam scored more noise. It was as we all know rigged against we the people. Absolutely. It sure was. Uh, Rudy says Trump did his part even though the whole thing was set up in her favor yet, even with an earpiece com, Kamala is so dumb, she couldn't deliver. She really didn't deliver. Um, driver says, I don't know who really won, but we all lost. I absolutely agree with that. Um, Voyager one since it's the furthest man made thing from earth. Uh, that's pretty good. Um, so I kind of agree with what a lot of people have said. I think it was kind of in the end what I, what I've felt was because Trump went up against three and hung in there in my heart of hearts. I feel like Trump won, but I think nationally speaking, and we're going to share some polls and stuff later, which by the way, disagree with, with me, uh, and, and to our benefit, but I felt like it was a draw which gave cam cam actually a win because they want to keep these polls close. They want to keep it, you know, where it is now because if they can keep it close, it gives them the ability to, to manipulate things later. And I think what we needed was a Trump versus Biden night where everyone was just like, Oh my gosh, that was so bad. And even though she said nothing other than lies, but mostly just made faces, I think to the, to the average American out there, they, they probably were like either like you go girl or I still don't know what I'm doing. And that's, I think that's a win for them and, and not for us. I, I feel like we needed a curb stomping. I didn't expect a curb stomping, but I felt like we needed one and, and we didn't get it. So I'll give her the slight edge, which I don't relish saying, well, you know, if you think about it as like hockey stats and a tie, both team get a point for their standings, you know, so it's, that's what it was basically is they both got a point. We wanted only the Republican only Trump to get a point, but she got a point, right? But if you also think of it in sports standings, which is, which is, which is like a good point, we both got a point out of it, but they're already up a point because, you know, in the standings, they've got the tiebreaker because they get to, to change all the rules. So we need, we need dominance, but that is a good point. Yeah. I mean, everyone got something we'll see. We'll keep, I think what a lot of people were looking for was, you know, what's frustrating to me and whenever I watch football and I watch my teams and they're up in the first half and it looks like they're dominating, then they go into the third quarter and it's like just close the game out. You're a better team, you've got more points on the board, just close the game out. And by the end of the four, the middle of the fourth quarter, there's now a game that my teams always seem to let the other opponent back into the door. What I'm looking for is a 1990s Miami Hurricanes that once they get a 20 point lead, they're going to get, walk out of the stadium with 63 points. Right. That's, that's what, I think that's what all of us, you know, who see Carmelo for the danger that he is, she is wants to see Trump doodour, just close the door, be done with it, rack up as many points as you can and then send in the third string. Yeah. Well, it is very frustrating when your team takes their foot off the gas, like, what are you doing? Finn. It's like an karate kid. Finish him. Um, I'm straight to leg, but yeah, well, let's talk about some of the things that were not brought up because that I thought that the, you know, sometimes silence is the most deafening thing. They started with the economy and I was interested to see where that was going to go. But they didn't reference Muir and Davis. The fact that the economy is devastated. That's a crippling economy. They asked people how they were going to handle the economy and said that there's been some issues, but they didn't highlight the reality of the US economy right now and how bad it is. Didn't mention that people are an utter despair in trying to figure out how to do things. They kind of treated it like it's not good. How are you guys going to fix it? Whereas it would have been a much more damning thing if they told the truth and said, okay, we're at a inflection point where we keep going down this path and we're up shits Creek. If, if we don't, we've got a chance to fix it. How are you going to do it? But they didn't do that. It was just, what are your policy points? And of course she lied through her teeth made it sound like she was this moderate person who's going to do all these great things. But that wasn't talking about the Trump assassination kind of a big deal in US history, assassination attempt, excuse me, not brought up. Trump mentioned it once, but it was not brought up. They had no follow up like, Oh yeah, I'm glad you said that. Let's do talk about that for a second. Kamala, how do you feel about the fact that your party and your weaponized government tried to kill a former president? None of that was talked about. And they also didn't really talk about they Joe Biden's health Trump referenced it didn't bring up the fact that she's she's been a part of this administration. I love that they treated her as if she is outside of calling her vice president Harris. They treated her as if she is this original new candidate from the left who's not sitting in the White House now versus the the Republican nominee. That is the most on it doesn't represent the truth whatsoever. So there's a lot of things like that that just really bugged the piss out of me. Yeah, that's the way this whole campaign has been. It's been like Trump's the incumbent and she's this new upstart that just from this grassroots effort came up from the Democrat party that people had voted on and she has all this momentum behind her. And now here she is and it's no, that's not quite it. She was a DEI hire that came on as vice president. Not my words Joe Biden's words right and has been there the entire time. She was a part of the cover up of Biden's mental decline. There's just so many things that are odious about her and also odious about the mainstream media, which I think after this debate we can clearly see that we all knew that the corporate media is in the bag for the Democrat party, but this has gone beyond that. They're actually in arm now, it's state run media is what it is and they made that entirely clear during that debate. They absolutely did hook I mean just clear as day that that's that's what we're dealing with here. We've referenced this before, but let's get into some clips from the night. We've we've talked about it. We've talked about how in this angered me and angered chaos and a lot of other people that she seemed at least at several points not to be muted despite that being the rules. So she could get in some some little zingers and one liners were as Trump, of course, was not allowed to do that. Here was one such example. Take a look at the question because under Roe v. Wade, you could do abortions in the seventh month, the eighth month, yeah, but but see we just hear an annoying cackling bitch, but other people here, well, why didn't he do they hear the question which she shouldn't be allowed to be asking speaking over him, interrupting him. They hear that question and the the low IQ voters start to be like, maybe she's right. Look how strong she is standing up for, yeah, we're not going to get any substance or anything around this. But but man, I thought that was really frustrating. That was one of the points there too last night where it's like, I'm I'm done. I'm so over this is a is a moderate right after that clip. The moderators went to Kamala Harris and went on to another question instead of going, all right. So Carmelo, what's your answer? Yeah. Is it six months, seven months, eight months? Is it up into birth? What is your position? What is your absolute cutoff time when it is appropriate to murder a child? No. Yeah. Again, and not just on abortion. She was pressed zero times, zero times on any issue throughout the night. Never had to clarify or qualify anything. Just that suffices for us were moving on. Let's figure out something else to get Trump on and the only the one thing that I got a question about when it comes to the mic not being muted is they must have not had a PA where you could hear the mics in there because if Trump knew that because he obviously could hear her from across the room, that doesn't mean he could think, or Mike still muted. That's fine. But we all heard it at home that it was unmuted. But if he had an idea, I would I would have I'm why didn't he say her mics like, I think they probably didn't know that room was tiny, but I'm just saying they probably didn't have a PA. No idea. And it's like they didn't have an IFB into here program, right? So they're just hearing because they were really close to each other. When you saw the why, it's like they're not in a big space. This room was bigger from where they were standing. Oh hell yeah. And it's just. I want to make a comment about the production value. We've already bagged on the moderators for being shit, but the production value was absolutely atrocious. The background for the moderators completely stunk. The whole staging area stunk, the camera, the camera angle stunk, the director's coverage of it stunk. Everything was bad and that just goes to it goes back to my point or one of my points that I've had in my entire career, that when it comes to anything news wise emanating out of New York, the production value is always shit. Yeah. No, it was. Also, keep that off my chest from a production standard. No, I agree. To me, every time they showed the moderators, I'm like, are they unlike a news like, are they not in the room? It almost felt like, but when you saw the why, they were there, but I felt like they're not there. Yeah. They're on a green screen somewhere. That's what it felt like. I love to that with this is politics, right? And this is television and production. They gave her a shorter podium to make her look taller. You could see it on some different angles of the anyways is what it is. None of it's surprising. I think you see it. It's harder to tell there. There's a head on shot coming in that they kept showing and you could totally tell the difference. You can tell the difference in that, but Trump Trump had some moments. I love that he had this period here. We talked about her, you know, taking his policies that he was going to give her a MAGA hat. Listen to this have and policies like they have. I don't say her because she has no policy. Everything that she believed three years ago and four years ago is out the window. She's going to my philosophy. In fact, I was going to send her a MAGA hat. She's gone to my philosophy. But if she ever got elected, she'd change it and it will be the end of our country. She's a Marxist. Everybody knows she's a Marxist. Her father's a Marxist professor in economics and he taught her well. But when you look at what she's done to our country and when you look at these millions and millions of people that are pouring into our country monthly where it's, I believe, 21 million people, not the 15 that people say and I think it's a lot higher than the 21. That's bigger than New York State pouring in and just look at what they're doing to our country. They're criminals. Many of these people coming in are criminals and that's bad for our economy too. You know, you mentioned before, we'll talk about immigration later. Well, bad immigration is the worst thing that can happen to our economy. They have and she has destroyed our country with policy that's insane. It's policy that you'd say they have to hate our country. Now, you know what's interesting too. So it's kind of funny. He joked about Senator, a MAGA hat and all that kind of stuff at the beginning. But what I thought was interesting about her responses during that, the rest of the night she made these stupid faces. She made stupid faces there too. I mean, it's hard. When you have a stupid face, you make stupid faces, but she made scripted practice stupid faces for other things, mostly like saying no and shaking her head, like saying that's not true. There it is. But this one here and there's points where he's talking about her being a Marxist, points where he's talking about 20 plus million, his numbers that he's suggesting have come in in terms of illegal immigration, where he's making those things, things that are horrible for this country and there it is. And she's smiling and laughing. Like those are the points where you, where you, like, even if you don't have a unmuted mic, you know, I'm saying, I mean, Mike, you say, no, that's absolute bullshit. I disagree with what you shake your head, shake your head. But she seemed to get a kick out of the fact that yeah, right here is where he was saying, you know, her dad's a Marxist professor that faces almost like, oh, he knows about my dad. Yeah. And me. To me, her reactions were akin of somebody doing this. If you're talking like Drew, just start talking on the split screen. This is what I saw Kamala Harris doing the entire time going, just start saying something. Okay. Well, I mean, she, she did make life. She did. She did. She did. She did. Lots of ridiculous stuff like Tom is now. That's what I saw. Well, that split screen with her the entire night. Yeah. I saw a child up there, making faces at this ogre that they don't like, or their parents that they're mad at. Barb, did anyone else want to reach this screen and punch her? Yeah, I did. That's why I turned it off because I looked at this person again. This is not a, this is not a Trump thing or a not Trump thing. I know most people here are all about Trump, and that's great. And I like Trump too. And I pray to God that he wins this election, but I just, I get so mad seeing her up there in this big moment for her, it is a big moment for her big moment for American politics. And just knowing the fraud that she is, there's others who have come through in the past that we haven't known everything in advance about how much of a fraud they are. We might not like them, but there's a lot of people who we've gotten fooled on as a country, collectively, Republican and Democrat. This one is, is, is clear, cut and dry. She's just dumb. She just doesn't, she's not big enough for this moment or for this job. You look at how she got there. You think about this, like you've got this smug face, but the only reason you're here is because you unzipped Willie Brown's pants. Like you, you don't have any real life skills or value that you bring to the table. And it, and it's just, it just shows and it, not just last night, it shows all the time with the cackling and the dodging media. I mean, all this stuff lately, just, just watch her because she's always on camera, walking to Air Force, we're not Air Force two, she's always holding up this or she'll grab someone and be like, talk to me. And you've seen this because you've done it yourself. Talk to me. She's talking to an age. She's talking to a military member. She's, and I guarantee you in all of those instances, she says, I don't want to talk to them. Just come with me and let's just pretend to talk. And she dodges the media. She does it every time because she has nothing in her to respond to questions about issues that are important to this country and the American people. Or, or about anything. Hey, I know, I think she is just so vacuous that there is nothing there. We've heard her talk about adding solid pepper to turkey as part of her recipe. She has nothing. She is on the scale of any kind of interpersonal or having any kind of original character is a zero. And I know that I've talked in the past that I don't trust any women that don't have kids. And I understand that they're women out there that can't have kids and I'm sorry for that. But somebody like her who didn't get married until she was 49 and with no kids, there's just, there's something inherently wrong with you. Yeah. I agree. Speaking of kids, she brought up an attack Trump at one point last night on IVF, IVF. And Trump missed that one because he just said what a week or two ago said that if he's back in, he's going to have the federal government pay for IVF, which I actually disagree with. But he's going to have that and offer that for the American people who are struggling and have to have to get to that point where that's what they're doing. And he didn't, he didn't bring that up. He said, I've been good on IVF and I've been good and I care about this issue. But he didn't say I've made this promise to, because especially the undecided voters and the people on the left who maybe aren't super far left, like they love free shit. You don't want to be in that situation, obviously, but I thought he missed on that. I was like, Oh, bring this up. You just talked about this. Bring it up. And he didn't, which I thought was perplexing. Yeah, there were a couple of whiffs in there like that one and also about his health care program and she's like, you don't have, you don't have any, it's like what we're working on it. And that was the perfect opportunity for him to come in and say, well, I've got Robert F Kennedy Jr. now on my team and he's going to help us formulate this plan that, you know, now that we're stuck with Obamacare to try and figure out how we could make it better by it also maintaining private healthcare. So it's not just a single healthcare system like you want. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, he did. There were, there were some whiffs. This was just another kind of funny moment where we talked about wake and Joe up, you know, talking about the border issues with cam cam, take a listen to this. But when she mentions about Israel, all of a sudden she hates Israel, she wouldn't even meet with Netanyahu when he went to Congress to make a very important speech. She refused to be there because she was at a sorority party of hers. She went to go to the sorority party. She hates Israel. If she's president, I believe that Israel will not exist within two years from now. And I've been pretty good at predictions, and I hope I'm wrong about that one. She hates Israel. At the same time in her own way, she hates the Arab population because the whole place is going to get blown up, Arabs, Jewish people, Israel, Israel will be gone. It would have never happened. Iran was broke under Donald Trump. Now Iran has $300 billion because they took off all the sanctions that I had. Iran had no money for Hamas or Hezbollah or any of the 28 different spheres of terror. And they are spheres of terror, horrible terror. They had no money. It was a big story, and you know it. You covered it very well, actually. They had no money for terror. They were broke. Now they're a rich nation, and now what they're doing is they're spreading that money around. Look at what's happening with the Houthis and Yemen. Look at what's going on in the Middle East. This would have never happened. I will get that settled and fast, and I'll get the war with Ukraine and Russia ended. If I'm president-elect, I'll get it done before even becoming president. So that was a different clip than I had suggested. Oh, I'm sorry. No, no. You're right. I had messed it up in there. But it was a good clip. He goes a little Trump hard on everyone's going to die. I think you just said Iran had money or didn't have money. They were broke. They were not making the progress that they are now and some of those things. But it's all true. And she did. Didn't meet with Netanyahu when he came through kind of a big deal. Everyone always does that. Israel has been a longstanding ally and friend. They're kind of going through it right now. But you had a question. What was your question? It's just the same clip that we just saw and you'll see here, but I muted it. He's talking about Israel how it's all going to blow up and all that stuff. Something catches her eye right here and she looks down. It's like she's reading her phone or something. And then she's like, what is she? What's going on here? And then she looks up again and looks back down like, I know they probably didn't have anything. But to me, it's like she's looking down like I'm being sent something. That's what it looked like. Yeah, it did. You're right. It does look that way. Yeah. But here. Oh, this. Okay. So this, I don't know. I didn't notice this before. I had heard this dude laughing over this clip. Oh, I see it now because I was watching it early. I'm like, who's laughing? I didn't even notice this. There's a weird weirdly dressed dude who clearly seems to be in favor of Trump in the lower right corner. It looks like an SNL skit character. So you're going to hear some laughter in the background. It's not from the debate itself, although there should be a lot of laughter with what happened last night. But here was the clip I was talking about with him saying, wake Joe up. Why are we allowing these millions of people to come through on the southern border? How come she's not doing anything? And I'll tell you what I would do. And I would be very proud to do it. I would say we would both leave this debate right now. I'd like to see her go down to Washington, DC during this debate because we're wasting a lot of time, go down to -- because she's been so bad, it's so ridiculous -- go down to Washington, DC and let her sign a bill to close up the border because they have the right to do it. They don't need bills. They have the right to do it. The President of the United States, you'll get them out of bed. You'll wake them up at four o'clock in the afternoon and you'll say, come on, come on down to the office. Let's sign a bill. If he signs a bill that the border is closed, all he has to do is say it to the Border Patrol who are phenomenal. If they do that, the border is closed. Those people are killing many people unlike J6. We talked immigration here tonight. And she's a gassed face. The call of you to say something like that, everything you just said was 100% spot on. If you wanted to fix any of the issues we face, border, economy, you know, energy, independence, literally pick anything, education, you name it, everything that we're experiencing right now in this country is very, very, very fixable. Some would take more time than others, but all of them fixable. The only thing you need is the desire to fix it. And they don't have it. It's nowhere in their soul. It's not like a game of tug of wars going on. Should we, shouldn't we? It's no. We want to destroy this country. We're just going to say that we love it as we do it. And that's what you're seeing. But if you wanted to fix any of these things, as Trump was saying there, it's pretty damn easy, especially when you carry the big stick that the presidency does. Yeah. And I just want to talk about the first clip that you played about Israel, the Arab world and everything. Trump is right. If she, she, Kamala Harris is part of the whole of the Nikon club and there are going to be a lot more dead Muslims and Arab folks all over the place because that's what they do. We create enemies and then go bomb the shit out of him. And that's why she invoked Dick Cheney, Mitt Romney and the other douchebags from the Republican party that are being purged from it because they're all warm, hungry pieces of shit and she falls right into that club along with everybody else in permanent Washington. He's Trump was absolutely correct about that. They're going to be dead people everywhere because that's what the neocons do. They need to feed the war pig machine. Yeah. No, they absolutely do. And she is. She is in that in that camp. Let's listen to if you made it this far in the debate last night. I didn't. I saw this part last night, but after, after the fact, let's listen to Trump's closing statements where he talks about what we've talked about and so many of you have as well. It's not just us. It's everyone saying she hasn't done anything in the last three and a half years and yet it's now making these promises take a listen. So she just started by saying she's going to do this. She's going to do that. She's going to do all these wonderful things. Why hasn't she done it? She's been there for three and a half years. They've had three and a half years to fix the border. They've had three and a half years to create jobs and all the things we talked about. Why hasn't she done it? She should leave right now, go down to that beautiful White House, go to the Capitol, get everyone together and do the things you want to do, but you haven't done it and you won't do it because you believe in things that the American people don't believe in. You believe in things like we're not going to frack. We're not going to take fossil fuel. We're not going to do things that are going to make this country strong, whether you like it or not. Germany tried that and within one year they were back to building normal energy plants. We're not ready for it. We can't sacrifice our country for the sake of bad vision. But I just asked one simple question. Why didn't she do it? We're a failing nation. We're a nation that's in serious decline. We're being left at all over the world. All over the world they're left. I know the leaders very well. They're coming to see me. They call me. We're left at all over the world. They don't understand what happened to us as a nation. We're not a leader. We don't have any idea what's going on. We have wars going on in the Middle East. We have wars going on with Russia and Ukraine. We're going to end up in a third world war and it'll be a war like no other because of nuclear weapons, the power of weaponry. I rebuilt our entire military. She gave a lot of it away to the Taliban. She gave it to Afghanistan. What these people have done to our country and may be toughest of all is allowing millions of people to come into our country, many of them are criminals, and they're destroying our country, the worst president, the worst vice president in the history of our country. So I mean, that's the point that needs to be hit. It needs to be hit over and over and over again is the fact that she is there right now. And as we said earlier and we've said for the last several weeks, they are treating her as if she's this new thing and as the great is the great savior that's coming out of the woodworks to fix things. She's not. She's the current vice president of the United States, the least talented, least liked vice president according to all polling and surveys in the history of the United States, but she's there now. And that has to continue to be hit. There are a lot of low like you dumb Americans who will not see through that, but there are some that will. And hopefully that number is enough to make an impact on November 5th because I still just feel like I'm taking crazy pills every time this particular issue or aspect of the political conversation, the presidential election conversation comes up where she's making all these promises and saying she wants to do all these things that she can do right now. And also, I don't know who brought it up because it's already passed in the chat, but I love how she highlighted some of the Republican endorsements that she's received last night. She goes on this laundry list of people. It's like, not Republican, not Republican, like super progressive, just claims to be a Republican. I mean, it shows how out of touch these people in DC are. Well, Liz Cheney, Dick Cheney, Mitt Romney, she didn't mention kids and you're like, oh, Kinsinger, but like all these types of people are behind me. Yeah, that's the problem. We know. We know. And that scares the piss out of us. Yeah, we know exactly who they are and we're glad that they're gone and we make fun of them on a daily basis because they're despicable human beings. They've sold out their entire care, their entire integrity just to be a part of the Washington machine where they could make money off the blood and souls of our young people who go and fight in these stupid wars that they get us into. That's why I'm so glad that they're gone. I can't stand them. There's going to be when judgment day comes, I'm glad I'm not a Dick Cheney or a Liz Cheney or a Kinsinger or a Romney or any of these other retards that have bubbled up who came to prominence in the GOP, they're nothing but disgusting, violent human beings and good riddance to them. Yeah, no, I agree. They are. A lot of them that are still there are who might even pretend that they're supporting Trump. Obviously Lindsey Grahams of the world. Yeah. You know, to hell with that guy, yeah, I couldn't agree more. Let's talk about the outcome, kind of the aftermath of what happened with the debate. You had an undecided voter on CNN who said that Trump was the facts and this was actually more just about Trump and chain this particular question about Trump versus cam cam in general, but let's just take a listen to what she says. What did you see that brought you to a conclusion? I think it's important to remember that we are voting for the leader of our country and not who we like the most or who we want in our wedding party, but who is actually going to make our country better and we're in an incredibly unique situation where we've had both of the candidates in office before and we've gotten to see what they would do. And when facts come to facts, my life was better when Trump was in office. The economy was higher, inflation was lower, things were better overall. And now with Kamala's administration, things haven't been so fantastic. And she's saying she can fix the problems that her administration has caused, but I just don't know if I can afford to take that risk. Were you good for you, girl? Good for you. I don't know where she came into it. You might have been conservative before, but the truth is the truth. The country economically, national security-wise, immigration-wise, all of that was way better off under Trump and if people can take Trump out of their mind for a second for the people who don't like him and just say, "What were the policies? What did my bank account say? What did a gallon of gas cost? What did a loaf of bread cost? And did I like those four years taking COVID out of it, obviously?" And then take Biden and slutface out of this one. And what do I think of this? If you just compare the two, it's like a blind date or it's like those old dating shows, right? Where you don't see who it is, like they're like blurring out the dating game? Like you're choosing this every time. And then the door might open. He might be like, "Damn, it's Trump." And I was told not to like him, but you like everything about him. You like the policies and all of that. Are we calling her slutface now? It's just one of the things. It's one of the names. I think it's going to stick. I just wanted to make sure. So I knew. I was texting with a friend earlier today and he was telling me about that he's sort of middle of the road, but his ideals aligned more to the right, but he just can't stand Donald Trump. And he went through a whole list. He's a narcissist. He's too aggressive. He went through that entire list of things that he didn't like about his character. And I sent him a text back and I said, "Would you hire an attorney that was representing you? You were being sued. Would you like somebody that was narcissistic, aggressive, mean to other people but had your best interest at heart representing you against an attorney who's trying to take you for everything that you have for your house, for your car, for your bank accounts? Would you rather have somebody that was like, "Oh gosh, you know, okay, well, shucks." He's pretty nice. I probably invited him like that one said to my wedding or just hang out with him. That's what you have to ask yourself. My friend didn't have a response to me because I would look for another attorney that had the characteristics that I liked. And for myself, I want the attorney that is going to fight for me and go after who's ever trying to take my shit and bury them and that to me, that's the bottom line of it. We talk about there's things that we don't like about Trump and everybody knows what those characteristics are but at the end of the day, who do you want fighting for you? Somebody that you like or is probably going to let people take your shit or somebody who's kind of a jerk but you know for a fact that he's going to go in with the gloves off and just brawl. Yeah, no, exactly. Exactly. Well, that's a good way to put it the way you did and it's also a perfect picture of how so many people think, "No, I still want the soft people with soft edges and that's not going to work for you." All right, let's talk about there was a, I was going to play a Pennsylvania clip as well that showed, you know, kind of a similar response to what you saw from the female and the CNN clip but let's, let's look at some of the polling that came out and again, you got to understand that polling is trash. There's times where it's a little bit more spot on but let's, let's just, let's just go with this for a second here and it looks like rumbles may be gone down but at least in terms of the, the, the active, active folks. Oh, wow. Might, might be an issue with them might just be something that they're showing or not showing. People continue on nonetheless because we're going everywhere else. Um, there's, so you got to take all polls with a grain of salt, right? And you got to look at this when you look at it on a holistic level, people talking here in the chat about can't pay attention to the polls. You can't, you're absolutely can't pay attention to the polls but you can pay attention to trends in the polls and you can pay attention to what the left's intention is with polls. So as it pertains to, you know, the popular vote and what people are saying and seeing out there, they, as we've discussed, want to keep things closer on the national level, at least optically speaking. So then they can, if, if they do some shenanigans, which they will on election night, they can say this jives because according to polling, it was super tight the whole time, even though it's not really that tight, it's tighter than it should be, but it's not that tight. All that say, you got to keep that in mind. But this particular poll here from CNN was definitely in Trump's favor afterwards. You could see before that it paid, the question was who would better handle the economy before the debate, Trump was up 53 to 37 after the debate. It was a two point jump for Trump going to 55%, cam cam down to 35%. So that's, that's something, you know, and, and, and that's how it should be. I'm kind of surprised that that's what the polling was on CNN after this debate, just because with the three on one dynamics that were there, I feel like it was tough to get that message across, even though that is very, it should be like 80 to 20. And that 20 just being the super, super, super dumb people who are never going to get it. But, but that was interesting. And then there was several polls about just the overall debate and we'll walk through them here. They're paper who I feel like tends to have more of a conservative audience. And you'll see that here. Trump versus Harris, who won the presidential debate, 78% for Trump, 13% for cam cam, 9% not sure. Again, I think most of the people that tend to follow it, I follow insider paper, I get some, some news from there, probably more conservative leaning. But this next one, not conservative C span is, is certainly not what you consider to be a conservative outlet. And who won the ABC presidential debate, Trump, 74% versus 26%. And then we got two more we'll show and then we'll just, we'll discuss a newsmax. Of course, you can kind of see it going this way. They say 93% Trump, 6% cam cam. I think you can take a news. Look, I like some people at Newsmax, I go on Newsmax, I have some friends who host shows on Newsmax, but I think in terms of biased, you can, in terms of the audience, you can kind of take that poll and maybe toss it aside. This one, political polls, that political polls on Twitter, who won the debate tonight, Trump, 62% Harris, 27%, 10% said neither. So, so some of the stats as much of a damning night as it was being three versus one for Trump, you see some stats from some, some places, some outlets that are not conservative friendly and the responses were very favorable for Trump, which I thought was surprising. That's not how I felt coming out of the debate. I certainly did not feel like Trump had 60, 70, 80% of support coming out of that, coming out of that debate. Right. And I think that we were looking at the debate through the eyes that we have because we talk about politics on a daily basis. So we're much more in tune with what exactly is going on, whereas maybe your basic normie who is watching the debate and getting that firsthand look at Carmelo to see what her positions were, she didn't knock it home. I think judging by those polls, other than Newsmax one, I think that she lost more than he did. And to David's point earlier, I think that's why they're saying, Hey, let's do another debate because they're acting like they won because right after it, everybody who follows politics closely seems to think that it was her night, but in actuality, it wasn't because she fell short because she didn't answer any questions. And I think that's what what the normies are saying by these polls. Yeah. Yeah. No, but I think that's a good point just to kind of go off polls. If you guys, if you guys here, if you've never gone over to watch Sean Pardell show, he's also part of RVM news every Wednesday. He has a pollster on a rich barris. Yeah. So tonight he will have rich on. You can go to his site where they do polls and they make sure it's just, it's just the facts. It's straight polling. There's no swaying to it. He goes in. They're going to dive into tonight, but every Wednesday they talk about different polls that are out there. He says, Hey, go over here and check this out, but also make sure you do your own research. He really does not say like I have the final answer here with these polls, but he's a pollster. He's got a lot of stuff. I'm interested to see what Rich has to say on that. Check it out. Battleground live. Sean Pardell. Yeah. The search, you can watch it on RVM news on rumble or search Sean's page. Most of you probably follow Sean. You should. He's awesome. Good friend doing, doing awesome things with his show. Well, yeah, I hope you're right, Tom. I hope that you're right. And that's kind of the mindset is, is, Hey, we're just a little too in this to actually see the, the broader picture and, and what other people are thinking. And I think you're right to disco is, is Tom alluded to the fact that they want to do this again. I'm, I'm shocked. Cause I thought it was going to be manipulate this thing, which they did and then pop smoke and say we're done. We, we, we did one. We didn't want to do any, but we did one. So we'll see. Unless she's like, I had a blast. Let's do this. Do that again. I doubt that's what she said. She was so uncomfortable. I think she was so uncomfortable. I think the team was like, we need to get her out there again. And we know the, the points that make him get fear. Let's just keep poking the bear and hopefully that will get people distracted away. Yeah. And be like, no, I like her better because she's at least calm about it. But she, even the first answer she had, she didn't answer the question. She moved her hands a lot and she just, it was a word sound. I was looking at the video card, I'm like, ding, ding, ding, like, oh, we're so close to a bingo within the first run. I was, I was excited. I was like, oh, we're going to get it. And then it didn't have like, well, we'll see, we'll see. Trump called in. This will be the last thing we do. And then we'll get out here for the Trump called in to Fox and Friends this morning and was talking to Ducey and, and Ainsley and Kilmeade. And I know everyone's got their opinions on that. That's not the point of this particular clip. But he said, you know, if they do it, the next one might be on Fox. But he didn't want Martha McCallum or Brett Bertigolas. Mr. President, I know when we started the interview, you said that you felt that you won the debate last night, your best ever. I think before the debate happened last night, the Kamala Harris people said that they would actually like to do another debate in October. And I know that last night, Fox News offered, sent letters to your campaign and her campaign, offering three dates of debates moderated by Martha and Brett. One is October 9th in Arizona. Well, I wouldn't want to have Martha and Brett. I'd love to have somebody else other than Martha and Brett. I'd love to have, frankly, Sean or Jesse or Laura, you know, somebody else. Let's give, let's give other people a shot. But I didn't think Martha and Brett were a good last night. Jesse was fantastic last night. What he said, Jesse really got it. Jesse said Trump won that debate. That was, we won that debate by a lot. Now I wouldn't want Martha involved. Okay. Mr. President, I would take some of this. I love it. And you know what I love is I love the discomfort and Ducey and Ducey that, you know, and all of them like crap, he's shitting on our colleagues. We can't. I don't know what they feel like behind the scenes. You know, Trump or excuse me, Fox is very siloed off. Like you might go, like I used to go on different shows there. Their shows don't even talk to each other because you'd be like, hey, can I talk to the producer there? I'd love to go on there. Like, oh, we don't even know who that is. Like, okay. That doesn't make any sense. I don't even have the reason. But you could tell. I mean, that's like, oh, and you should know that. Trump's calling in. It's going to drop something at any given point during the conversation. Trump is going to be like, you know, toss it. Well, to me, it's what was Ducey expecting just to like, yeah, I said yes, or I would go like, no, he's going to, he's going to give his thoughts and his feelings towards it. And he's not just going to leave it there. He's going to keep going. Yeah. And just to see Ducey where he was like, okay, yeah, well, I, I tell you what, I, I, I'm sure the left's going to pick that apart and be like, he just wants people who support him, which obviously Sean and Laura and others do, which is by the way, what the left does. But I'm sure that's what they're going to say. But I would love it so much if you got someone like that because I'm telling you, you know, they got Trump out of his, his, I think it was super tight. You know, everyone's got their opinions on who won didn't win last night, but they took him off the rails a couple of times. He got back on the rails, I thought nicely and, and, and did what he did. But if you had, and this will never have, they would never agree to it. But if you had Jesse Waters or Sean or any of them like do this debate and the way that they would press cam cam on issues, the level of discomfort, I mean, you want to see someone come off the rails, we would get there, that would be, I, I would stay and watch that whole thing just because I, you would see her squirming. Yeah. You would see her squirming. Yeah. Yeah. I, I agree. I don't think I, I, I like Martha McCallum. I think she's okay. She never stole a free train as far as I'm concerned. Yeah. Repaire is just kind of milk toast. But I think the, the person that would be the best debate moderator that would make Kamala just feel very off balance and come unglued would be Dana Perino. I think she would be a masterful moderator. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause she doesn't take shit. Right. Yeah. She's smart and she's quick. And, and she doesn't, she, you know, she's on a couple of talk shows there, but she doesn't come from a journalist background where she comes from a PR background, where she understands spin and she understands obfuscation better than anybody else. And she knows exactly how these political puppets like Carmelo are wired and will be able to, would be able to counteract that. No, that's actually not a bad plan. And I think that that would be acceptable. I think that that would be more acceptable to, to both parties or both campaigns. Some of the others are never going to get, they're never going to get approved. But, but that, I think Dana and someone else could, and I agree, I don't have like a major issue with Martha. I think Brett is, is, is just weak sauce, but certainly Cam, Cam would get pushed more even with them than she did last night, which was zero times, but I don't know that it would be enough. I don't think it would put her at peak discomfort like some of the others would. I'd say we send them to both of them, Kamala and Trump to Joe Rogan studio and let him do it in there. He's smoking something or whatever. It's like, okay. Yeah. Let me ask you about fracking. What are you like? Just let him go. I think that would be fantastic. It would be amazing. Yeah. It would be absolutely amazing. It would never happen, but it would be amazing. All right, folks, this has been fun. Like, like we said, you got Sean Parnell coming up in about 40 minutes here, 5 p.m. Eastern on, on Rumble. You can watch on his channel or on RVM news. So go check that out and get his commentary. We'll be looking forward to seeing you tomorrow, Thursday, 3 p.m. Eastern right back here to wrap the week. We'll have some memes. We'll have some fun. We'll have some other news stories and others, you know, hubbub and outbreak kind of discussions from the debate and all the response to it. So that'll be tomorrow. Please hit that like button on the way out. 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