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Big D Energy | Tuesday, September 11th, 2024

Neal Ruhl and Darren McCarty are talk all things Detroit Lions as they prepare for their week two matchup with Tampa Bay. Dan Campbell comments on what he saw in week one and much more! Like, Subscribe and leave your comment below!

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1h 54m
Broadcast on:
11 Sep 2024
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It's time for the type of energy, only Darren McCarty and Neil Rule can give. It's time for Big D Energy, live on Woodward Sports, joined for a time Stanley Cup champion and legendary bad-ass Darren McCarty, in the golden voice of Neil Rule, Monday from Friday 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. as they give their takes on all things Detroit Sports. The number one midday show in Detroit is on, Welcome to Big D Energy. Yo, yo, yo, what's going on, buddy? Welcome back to another episode of Big D Energy, right here on the Woodward Sports Network. My name is Neil Rule that guy, D-Mac, Darren McCarty in the house. We got silent Mike in the building, though you would never know it. He's a man of few words. Silent Mike, how are you? All right. There it is, everybody. Dynamite drop in. Spencer Rachster. Oh, hello. What's up with you, man? We're going to coffee. Shout out to Sabbath Coffee. Oh, that's savage coffee. It's good stuff. But yeah, my check engine light came on in my car. So that's been annoying. I took it to my boy, works with the last Stanford collision, suburban collision. And he got to turn it off and then it popped right back on. So took it into the dealership today. All right. Well, there you go, man. That's why there's warranties and that stuff. So keep it pushing everybody. Yeah. Sabbath coffee roasters, by the way, East Claus and the proprietors and one of our proud partners here at Woodward with our Lions game day. I had, I had a, I popped open to Canada, their nitro brew. Yeah, you lead. It's dangerous. I'm just saying, like, be prepared. We had to show up for some. We had him at the live party. Yeah. We had him at the live watch party. I think they got ran through as it was. Shout out to Sabbath coffee. The the nitro brew, the cold brew in a can. I was partying all weekend at my brother's wedding, drank one of those. Got right. Go through the entire post game show and the live watch party. So shout out to Sabbath coffee. No, absolutely, absolutely. Um, so yeah, certainly that some other partnership news, I guess you could say, uh, be on the lookout. Woodward Sports has a new official sports book. Yeah. Shout out to Caesars. Shout out to Caesars. Yeah, we're all right. We got it. We call it Kaiser's. The get rights. The Feldman pigs can pick them up. We'll all have official Caesar lines to it now. Now we are officially, uh, doing those on Thursday on Thursday. Correct. So I'll need your picks today, by the way, today. We'll get it to the graphics people so we can get it all dressed up. All right. And then let me start, well, yeah, go open up the Caesar Sportsbook app. Get those lines and get in there. That's right. That's what it is. Caesar Sportsbook. Uh, yeah, absolutely. Uh, Woodward Sports chat thread. Steve Oh, baby, Neil, I have a question. Are you ready? Where are all the tiger haters now? Let's go. And yeah, big, big dub for them. Uh, unfortunately it did not yield gaining any ground as the twins and the royals, both one yesterday. And you know that I just D Mac, you and I talked about this before the show. You know, that's part of the rules, right? Like it's, it's going to happen. I just, I hate that you didn't lose any ground. You didn't lose any ground. Sure. I just, they played perfectly. That's good. They played perfectly. So what did I, what did I say to you where I looked at it? Like thank goodness they're taking care of what they're supposed to take care of. The second worst team in, you know, they've games against Colorado was the second worst team in the, uh, in the National League. And then they got the White Sox coming up who are the worst. What I like is what I saw that I didn't see out of the Red Wings late in the season against Arizona is taking care of those games and those points. You can't control what the rest of the teams do, only what's ahead of you. So the way that they're playing what they've shown me is, is this is becoming more consistent. Now how they got here in the way that they've been doing it through pitching, uh, which has been the best since the beginning of August in baseball and stuff and how they're getting with one starter, but in how they're getting timely hits throughout the lineup, not just just by guys whose names, you know, not staying hot. So, um, it's, they're consistent. This goes down to me where it solidifies more of what you've always said of what a great manager, AJ Hinches. I think right now you're seeing why that is. So consistently, I hope that they build on that and come out today and take care of business again and have to that they have no, they have no choice, but Neil, it's nice to, like you said, it sucks. There's certain rules you live by. You know that it's doesn't make it not suck. And they, it doesn't make it not suck. I mean, sorry that your bedtime was 10, 10 p.m. and your buddies was 11. You know, that's suck. But that's the way that it is. Some sort of that suck. And again, it, I was, I want everybody to understand how tough this will be. You know, like the Tigers, think about how good they've been lately, right? They're six and four in their last 10 and they gained one game on the Royals in the last 10 games. You know, like it's hard, everybody, like they're still a long shot to do this. But what the hell you're telling me there's a shot, you know? So that's, that's enough for us. Remember this too. Like, because I have to fight this with the Tigers team, right? They haven't been relevant at this point in the season in a decade. I mean, isn't it more like, isn't it more like we're watching what we experienced with the Red Wings? No, it's like, yeah, it's exactly like, yeah, that's true. So, I mean, I guess that's what the Red Wings season prepared us for. Well, where sports chat thread jump into their get your thoughts in their burn is Caesar's going to be okay with your get rights. They know, they know, they know what they signed up for everybody. So they signed up. Absolutely. In honor of the New Deal with Caesars, I have a special get right for late Saturday night, by the way. Oh, Mount West. No. Oh, Mac. Nope. Um, don't you worry. You're pretty little. There's only two teams. There's only four teams. Hey, the pack 12. There's only two teams. I went, I went and I got some help for this one. And I'm going to get the people right late Saturday night, not even football. Not even football. Oh, geez. But you can do it at Caesar Sportsbook, the official sports book of Woodward Sports first time. So we'll get in there. Let's, uh, what? First, first time. There we go. Now, hey, that might change after a couple of weeks. Yep. I'm just saying but be prepared to get right. If you're listening and you're in the building, will you come in here during the break? Stay. I'll text them. Yeah. Uh, Todd, same. It's been a member of the Woodward crew for 19 months. Time flies on BDE. It does. It does. Yeah. They're one of the OGs, man. No doubt. That's, that's insane. Nice. Yes, it is. Uh, Woodward Sports, chat thread, Chuck Brewer, near the kids are playing meaningful games under pressure in September. Make it or not. This is great for the team. Chucky. Here's the D. This is great for the fan. We've earned this. Damn it. And you guys know, no one is as hard on the tigers in this building than me, but no one puts more time into it too. We've earned this. You've earned this and I've earned this. Make no mistake. Are they, are they going to get home when they got like an 11% chance to make the, it's, it's a super long shot, creeping up. Yeah. It was like four couple weeks ago, bingo. You know what I'm saying? So that being said, enjoy it, consume it. The crowd was pretty disappointing. I will say that last night, but you know, I don't hit me with the schools in session and all that kind of don't hit me with it. This is what we say we wanted, right? There's meaningful baseball. We signed off on this. It's meaningful baseball. Now you're three back. Granted, the road is going to be tough. And, and I, and let's say this too. And I did this a couple of weeks ago, but I feel as though it needs a refresher DMACC. AJ Hinch. Mmm. F and AJ Hinch. We got one starter. We got prospects that we got in a trade at the trade deadline that are playing short stop now. If you look at the offensive numbers, like 230 to 40. If you look at the offensive numbers, they're still pretty grim. Yeah. But somehow, some way this man is getting it by. And you, and you may not like that. You may not want to hear that. I don't care. AJ Hinch is as important as anybody else in that club. If not more. And here's the thing. If you like analogies and you look and somebody brought it, I forgot where I heard it. Brought to the attention is this is sort of where the Astros started back with now two of a and springer and they started popping up. Like we, you know, in the lineup and stuff like that, is that what we're seeing sort of a young version of what the Astros had before they became world champions? Maybe. And who's at the helm and who would know that right by experiencing it before with these young guys? I think that you nailed it. Was it Chuck Bruce said that the team, it's you. It's all of us as a tiger as the tigers culture and the fandom and players and everything. We all get to enjoy this and we're still not there yet, right? It draws me back to the excitement at the end of the hockey season, right? And we were a lot closer with the hockey team than we are with the baseball team, but it's still exciting. Because there's hope. There's hope. There's hope as a demon. There's hope sells, baby. And there is hope. We got definite hope in this town and I hope and look at where we started with this team. Look at where we've been through. This is a long season, right? You I mean, torque was sent off to pasture medals there. You didn't know what was going on here there everywhere. We were in bigger distraught early in the season. You know, the valley sports, right? The apathy, the ineptitude, all this different stuff, but it's brought that fan back and it's brought other people back because now you have some some hope and things you can believe in, let alone a triple crown picture that you're watching history being made in front of your eyes. And I'll say this too, because this would be a good segment. And I think we may do this. Maybe tomorrow is come clean about the tigers. You know, admit your mistakes with the tigers. And I would start it and say, when we sent Parker Meadows off, I thought that was the last time we were ever going to see Parker Meadows. I legit thought that legit thought that. And here's a great story, by the way, spending was driving around, listening to the game last night to actually take my daughter back from soccer practice. And I was listening to the ball game. And Dan Dickerson told the story that home runny hit in San Diego when it when the tiger season was at the brink. They were about to be swept out of that series in San Diego. And that probably would have broke him. That home runny hit in the ninth inning. He's loaded the grand slam. That was the first opposite field home run he's hit as a professional. He had he had not hit an opposite field home run since he was in high school. Like those are the moments, man. You know, that's what it's all about. And that's what all the hard work. And you know what, like that, that's what life's about that adversity and overcoming it. I have had some experience with that myself, but you can feel that. So all the hard work that he's put in and all the time and all the going back to the bus rides in Toledo and stuff like that. You know, it's great to see it paid off. But yeah, that's awesome. That's what you need. But those are those are moments right, Neil, that that are coming more on the daily and because it is hope. Do you think Parker Meadows is a major league baseball player out fielder from what you've seen? She's trending that way. He's trending that way. Right? How about torque? I mean, for God's sake, some of us had and not completely wrote off, but had to have the conversation that this might be the end of a one one. If he couldn't figure it out now, it looks like he's trending in a better direction. It's not so got work to do, but the salvage job that the coaching and the organization has done not only with their play, let their own players, but going out and getting a trace, Sweeney, you know, for something to put back in the lineup, you know, tip your hat. 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Subscribe to the Woodward sports YouTube channel and jump in there salty pork chops. Neil, do you think hinge considers moving scuba start to Friday versus Thursday? So he gets game one of the Baltimore series. No salty pork chops because as it sits right now, he's on pace to throw the final game of the season. If you move it back, that's in danger of losing that. You need scuba to pitch as many times as possible. And I want scuba to play the Rockies so you can get an easy win. Get an easy dub off those triple crown stats up a little bit. No, no, no doubt. Yeah. And lock up that lock up that Cy Young award. All right. I promised a question for the people DMACC and Steve Lehman Neil and DMACC Steve Lehman. What up? Allen Lee Holmes Campbell 28. We fixed the lions in half a term. True. They should have been up there on the podium last night, man. I was watching walking dead last night. Sky dog thought I got blocked again didn't have the option thing he said on all messages. Sky dog, I didn't block you. So, so get on in there. Yeah, I'm in the chat. I'll put it in there. Get your words. I block his cats. That's just a, that's just a joke. A fun thing. We'll go. You do it for you. Yeah, I do do it for me. You don't do it for the show. He always comes back. Always fun. And it's fun. Yeah. It's become like is a bit. All right, DMACC, question for the people slash comment for the people. I just wonder this is me thinking. I wonder then are the people going to be consistent how they were with the red wings? Are they going to be consistent with the tigers and say, man, we're going on a decade. You didn't get in the playoffs. It's time to ask some questions. Are they going to? Are they going to? Are they going to be the same way? Because remember, that's the way they were, right? Despite the fact that there's been nothing but linear growth with the red wings and you should be more excited now than any moment you've been about the red wings in the last decade because that's a vibes. I'm getting what people about the tigers right now. The vibes with the tigers are all right. Let's go. The foundation looks great. Let's do it. So why aren't people that way with the wings if they're that way with the tigers? That's my question. I don't really understand how to do it because I just look to the why you're in the position that you're in and the differences, right? You realize in the last 10 years, well, Steve Eisenman has been there. What? This is his seventh year or whatever it is. But then when you when you untangle it more with the salary cap and the bad contracts and stuff like this, it doesn't matter. Do you see progress? Have they gotten better? I mean, this is a big big year for them because teams all around them have gotten good. They were on the outside looking in. Did they do enough in net? Did they do enough with the young guys? You know, time will tell, but with the tigers, I mean, it was like an aptitude and no hope for a long time, then they made a change. So this isn't totally different. Not only this, the regime change with AJ Hinch, but now you have Scott Harris and you got to let Scott Harris cook a little bit because I like what they're doing. Now there's questions to be added, but maybe because you see a future and you see this progress happening, that moves will be made quicker than later. Now, right going into this off season and we'll see what it is. The biggest questions is, are you going to buy as and are you going to, you know, add that bat this off season and maybe that arm. So we don't know what the what the Jackson is. The guys and the miners, the Job's Jackson Joe, by the way, officially the number two prospect in baseball. So there you go. So is he getting fast-tracked to different things? So be in your starting on. So here's the thing being a Tiger fan today on September 11th. Man, just even go back to August 11th or go to July and dunk that. Now you see the sun. Now I can see the horizon. Like, you know, I can see the sun out there. It's got a nice day. It's not a cloud. It's not cloudy. So I see a lot of the different things. A lot of it is just like, I think you mentioned it, Neil, like do people realize, you know, how impactful that Parker medals. They just pretty much usually when what happens to a guy like that was sort of fringe at a young age. He goes down and you never hear from him again or you hear he gets traded another team and traded to another team and then he's on six different teams. So the organization what's been done in Toledo is just as responsible for getting guys going. And I agree with people I see in the chat. I'm not sold on torque yet, but I see a path that I didn't see before. And it starts with starts with plate discipline and stuff like that. If he doesn't, you know, so and I see all of them and I see youth. So I see something that you can build with and it goes back to when I when I realize this is sort of what AJ has. See, I can't even tell if you're talking about the wings of the Tigers right now. So that's it. Right. So let me even tell the difference. So that's the problem now. The other thing is that I know is that that I'm entertained. Right. I'm entertained by both and I want to see this progress and I can buy into to certain players and there's guys now in the Tigers that are going to be here for a long time. I already got my school of Jersey and hope hopefully that's the case. So yeah, or and the wings the same way. Right. Look how exciting it was and the way the building was at the end of the season. They came up short. So I mean, times have changed. Just look at, we haven't had this for a long time. I always said, like being imagine being a young sports fan in this town. When do you when do you really develop your sports? Then your teens probably. But like you you recognize and know it like a young age, you go the game five, six, seven. Right. So from five, six and seven. So 17 year old. So born and like, you know, my kid, my son, like like 2005 or later and stuff like this is like, do you like, it's just like, man, Detroit sucks. That's my son. Right. So the, you know, and they don't even have the ability to have apathy. Right. Just they have other favorite teams and favorite players. So hopefully now that changes. So you says wings choked didn't get into playoffs. And again, you know, we did that dance before so you like you're upset that a 500 team went 500. I'll never understand it like you. So you expect that 16 and four run to be the norm. And then when that levels out, when the water finds its level, then it's a choke job. Like they were never that they were never a 16 and 14. Just like this Tigers team right now. Yeah, they're they're 19 and nine in the last month or whatever 28 day, whatever that number is. They're not saying that's out playing their ability. 100% and if this and if this flames out, like if the, if the Orioles come in here, they play the Orioles six more times. They lose five or six to the Orioles and get cooked and they're out. Does that make it not real? What happened? No, like it like it is real. It is real. I'm curious to get your take on this whole thing right here. I think it is real and I love it. Like he's, I love baseball. I love when the Tigers are good. I love going down to America and experiencing, you know, meaningful September baseball games. And I think it's real. Even if they don't make the playoffs, because it's the young guys that are the driving force of this, it is the Parker Meadows, the Colt Keith's, the Riley Greens, Carrie Carpenters, Trey Sweeney's, it's the guys you expect to be around here. Guys that you look at this core and you're like, all right, when we're good, they can be driving factors in that and that's what I needed to see out of them. And that's what I'm saying. I'm seeing them being the most important part of our team, of our lineup, while we're winning baseball games, fighting for a playoff spot. So that proves to me that this core can get it done when the Tigers are actually good for a whole year. They just need to add some supplementary, supplementary veterans at her third base, shortstop or, or a catcher or wherever you want one bat and you're a playoff team. Right. And they got a Cy Young winning pitcher. Yes. And that changes everything. And that that too, they're doing this with having one and a half pitchers. Spenny. They have no starters. Reese Olson hasn't pitched in months. Mys hasn't pitched a month. The trinity. That's it, man. AJ Hinch, manager of the year. I don't care how this ends. I will die on that hill. Chris, Chris Federer should be the highest paid bench coach in the MLB. He is the singular, most important coach in Major League Baseball. Are we not given the bullpen bullpen? Tyler Holton, Shelby Miller picked it back up. Jason Foley's been good in the closing role. It's Chris, Chris Federer is one of the best coaches in sport, not just in the MLB, not in carefully. He's a Michigan guy. I know, I look at Chris Federer and shoes, Chris Federer and a Michigan guy's shoes. Yeah, he's, he's one of the best coaches in all. Like he should be the highest paid bench coach in MLB period. And again, Federer and AJ Hinchball are doing this with the third lowest payroll in baseball. And it's a $106 million payroll. And for as far as I'm concerned, you can take Harvey by as off that. Yeah, because that's a, that's a lost investment. So if you take, if you take that off of there, they are sitting at $81 million, they would be a million bucks more than Oakland. It's, that's what they're doing it with. It's insane. It's insane. Like I said, it's the young guys. It's the guys you put there that it are either already signed to this team long term, like Colke Keith, gonna get signed to this home. This team long term very shortly, like Terry Scubill and Riley Green, or guys like Kerry Carpenter and Trace Sweeney that are young, that are filling roles that are making plays. Parker Madder, like you said, when Parker Meadows got sent down, I thought he was dead too. Gone forever. Spencer Torkelson got sent down again. I thought he was dead, but they came back up. They made some adjustments. Parker Meadows looks like the best damn center fielder in baseball, not playing for the Yankees. Like the guy has been electric. He's been tearing the cover off the ball for two months. He's got a 900 OPS is last like 14 games or something like that. They're like 28 and nine when Parker Meadows plays in the past couple months. It's just crazy. No, it is. It's absolutely insane. I just, I want to take a segment on it. But what, what about my claim real quick, are people going to keep that same energy about the red wings? Yeah, the red wings that they do with the type of the red wings expectations are much higher. No, I'm coming into last year. Oh, no. Yeah, it's going to be, they're going to be way, I think because the lions are playing, then they'll accept the Tigers not making the playoffs easier than they did the because the red wings, all we have was the pistons. Right. But the Tigers don't make the playoffs. All right. We got a lion's game in a couple days. That's absurd. I know it's literally the same exact thing. It is the same exact thing. I couldn't tell if DMACC was talking about the red wings or the Tigers. Yeah, it is. It's wild. Max Clark is coming salty pork chops. Two years Max Clark. I do. I love this kid. Like I love this kid. He is so good. He is going to be the first. He made he made me watch West Michigan games, man. He he drives in runs. That's all he does. It's it's a it's a violent swing. You price Harper swing by. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's in that family. Yeah. Like he doesn't have that kind of power, but he's in that. No, no, but there's reckless. His swing is violent in the batter's box. He gives me that. Yeah, not not the power, but who has his heart? He's going to have the most aura for the Tigers since Victor Martinez. The kids got drip. Like I love Max Clark. I think he's dripping everywhere. Came to dripping. We need that as a drop sign up, Mike DMACC right there. All right. Yeah. Let's do this. Let's do the break, everybody. A Woodward sports Lions pregame. We got you covered better than anybody in this city. That is a fact that is not opinion. 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Hey Sky Dog, you know what you're doing right now? You're going down the checklist. I'm calling every time I see that. You know how people have the checklist? Yeah, I don't understand why people are just so miserable, man. Enjoy good baseball. Enjoy fun baseball. Yeah, they played a perfect baseball game last night. Perfect. Now they didn't get rewarded because they didn't gain any ground, but as DMACC said, they didn't lose any ground. The, the, the Rockies thing. No is a must. And, and the further we go into this DMACC, you're where the tigers sitting out right now, 145 games or 17 games left. You cannot afford to lose to the Rockies. No, you cannot. You need to. If you want to make the playoffs, keep you playoff, hope lives very slim playoff. Hope says it is you need to sweep the Rockies and you need the twins to lose, which they won last night. Unfortunately, thanks, angels. Way to never do anything worth anything. They beat them yesterday. They, they beat them Tuesday. I mean, yeah, but they lost yesterday. That's all you can ask for. No, I need, I need one. Anybody that plays the twins needs to beat them. No, but spending, I just, I want to put that out there because it goes to show you even a loss to the Rockies cripples you. Pretty much ends you. Yeah, but that, that's not sweeping the Orioles because I just, I want to just warn everybody, DMACC, that's the thing because I feel like people are going that red rings route right now, where they're going to be like crushed if they don't get in. And it's still an absurd launch. There's 17 games left. They're three bad. If they lose, it's crushing. It's crushing if you lose to the Rockies. But you know, it's not, it's not, it's not terrible. They got here. They got so so hard to get there because you need so much to happen in front of you. Just the fact that they'd let you tune in and you want to hear the subtle tones of double D Dan Dickerson. Spending, there's a lot of chatter going on my people that you Collins worth better on. Yeah. I definitely did. He deserves it. If anyone deserves to be Collins worth, it's Chris, Chris Collins worth right now is saying, damn Spiney, you better come up for air. Hey, he deserves it. The man has saved the season. Look, he's going with one starter. I literally, when I saw that clip, flannel, go and sound about calls or it's a swaller. I fucking lost my shit. Well, I told flannel yesterday, right? Hey, Spiney, sometimes you got to he deserves it. Hey, he deservedly so deservedly. Just a fan. I read that Joe may come to the club before the season ends. I would doubt that. Nicholas Cito said, now here's a guy. Look at Matt Stafford. Now here's a guy who can make all this throw. I hate Chris Collins worth. He sucks. He sucks. What happened? Him and Romo suck. Chris Collins worth used to be good. So did Tony Romo for like a year. Well, I told you guys this would happen with Tony Romo. It caught up to him. No, the the cycle of terminology, to the NFL change. And once it changes and you're not in it anymore, it's over for you. Uh, brutal. I thought Brady sucked. Yeah, Brady wasn't good. It was, I mean, he was just, he was nervous. He was talking, he's monotone. Yeah. I don't know, man. They they they've decided, like the networks have decided, like, you will like the broadcast people that they that they deem, you know, like they've they've decided that. So you'll like it. He'll, I think Brady will get better. He's just got to loosen up a little bit. He's nervous. Sometimes you're going to take what we give you. Not what you want. But the moral of the story is like, you can't just drop a guy in an NFL booth at four o'clock, week number one of the NFL in one of the premier four o'clock games and expect it to go well. Yeah, I wouldn't think. You mean there's something? Wait a sec. It's spoken from a guy who performs at a boot. You mean there's stuff that goes into it? No, there's a comfortability and there's a contrary to what my wife says. You don't just show up and quote bullshit for two hours on TV. That's legit what she thinks. Well, that's what we she's like. Oh, you mean you Saturday you work for two hours? Yeah. No, I was on camera for two hours. Like, yeah, it doesn't understand what goes into before. I didn't just show up and be like, all right, turn the camera on. Let's go. You know, so that's uh, that's what's funny. No, but it's one of those things that it's repetition. He just needs wraps and hopefully we've seen it that that'll get better and he sticks with it and hopefully that competitiveness in them will do that. Pete Smith Brady sounded like everything he said. He read from an iPad that he had just thrown on the bench. Uh, Dejango Brady has to deflate a little bit. Hey, I like, I like that one. Hey, yo, hey, yo. Um, Chuck Brewer, Neil, they don't normally drop you in the noon game between two bad teams that nobody watches LOL. Even when they do that, when they do drop you in there, like you do. Yeah, you do the week leading up to it. I like Greg Olson. I do too. I think I think it's better than Tony Romo. I think he's better than Chris Collinsworth and I think he's better than Tom Brady. I think Tom Brady will get better, but I like Greg Olson. Well, yeah, no, I do too. Yeah, but the problem is this. I like to keep to leave. He was funny. He was funny. I, I, he was real. Yeah, you, you felt like that was the genuine. Is he still doing it? No, but he slip up or something. I don't know. Anyway, um, yeah, it's it is, but this brought the broadcast thing has become such a name. Like, they need a name like Kevin Burkhardt and Greg Olson. Yeah, this is not like, it's not a, uh, doesn't grab you. Yeah, it doesn't grab you. Like it's not a slice of Americana, like Joe Buck is say what you want about Joe Buck. I hate Joe Buck, but see my point though. You know what I'm saying? Oh, but Neil, to your point, and this is amazing because when you're looking around for a game, when there's a bunch on the one o'clock or whatever, and there's a team that you don't have a vetted interest in, I'll look for, I'll look for Kevin Harlow. Yeah, no, no, but there's a, there's a green, right? But you'll checklist when you're flipping games, but think about it, because usually that's when I get into it. And if you have red zone, I mean, it makes it that that's the easy way. But if you do flip channels, right, think about how when you get the announcers that bring you into the game that you end up getting caught in a game or you wanted to flip back because there's a red zone, but the entertainment. And I think that the story that then with Greg Olson, as a color guy, is he paints that picture of being in the game, even though he's freshly out of it, he can relate a lot of stuff that a lot of us who haven't played can understand. Michael Brady should have been an intern like Jesus. That probably would have been a good, I mean, nobody should ever be an intern like Jesus. Take that, Jesus. No, but, but again, it's just, it's what, and we got to kind of off on a tangent there. Cody Engel, Ermani is Michigan's Collins' worth, said Brady did good. He did not. No, he did not do good. Oh, did Ryan say it? Yeah, probably. He's Joe, he's Joe Klatt, you know, I can't say no wrong. Boy, they seemed, Joe Klatt sucks too. Well, that broadcast booth seemed down. Yeah, and Texas scores a touchdown. They were like the number three team in the nation, right? He'll tell the point about one of the biggest brands I've ever seen in the movie. Isn't it about sponsor money? Isn't it about getting sponsor money or? Oh, yeah. Yeah. No doubt. No doubt. There's an angle to that. It's just like everyone that gets upset about it. Like you shouldn't be surprised by it because it's not designed to have the best broadcaster there because people wouldn't go for that. Again, Kevin Burkhardt and Greg Olson, man, that's not a household name. That's not a household tandem. And that's, and that's what they go by. They don't go by the best broadcaster. They just don't. And I fully understand that fully understand it. It's got a pop, man. Chuck Neil, Ryan was critical of hutch. He couldn't be harsh on two Michigan guys in the same week. I think he should have done the other way around. I think he should have been raving for hutch and what he did and been critical on Brady. There you go. Absolutely. Okay. Hey, we're going to do the football when we come back. That was kind of a little side tangent. We do. We got a good lion's thing to go to. But if you want a good haircut, we got a spot for you to go to. Absolutely right here. Awesome is when a guy can be a guy, get an amazing haircut. 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Oh, we're going to have them at the watch parties. We're doing a sorokis first downs. So every time. Oh, yeah. Every time they had a first down we get some sorokis. Up a hay social. Yep. Hopefully they got the biscuits in there. Get the biscuits in the basket. I think I think I think the second quarter might have to be a become a thing for me. Hey, yeah. Of course. If they got sorokis, we're an answer. Okay. And we're, you know, we're going to have some tangerine space machine and the taller long drinks. Dude, taller long drinks, by the way. Yeah, bro. I'm excited. I love tangerine space machine. That's a great beer. So that one is a beer. Yes. Okay, because the long drinks are the long drinks. The tangerine space machine is a fantastic beer. Okay. Let's go everybody. Let's go. I think it's going to be. I don't know if this is confirmed yet or not, but a new Holland brewing touchdown. Every time we get a touchdown, I'm probably shocked on one of those beers. Are you really? You're going to be a long year. We're going to have a good offer. Good thing. We're going to be in a 10 and Sunday. He's going to drive spinning home. I'm going to tell him to come up. Yeah. We might have to drive me home, depending on how many touchdowns we score. But yeah, you should be there. My mom and my aunts are probably going to be popping in different occasions and stuff. I have to make it up here. I'm just saying. I'm just saying everybody. All right. Jump into that Woodward sports chat thread. Brandon Katz, every single number one receiver torches Detroit Glen plays too much man coverage every year. And it's funny like, because I told you guys that the longer the further we've gotten away from that, the more I look at it. And every single day, I become more pleased with the way their defense played. I know that's not the narrative that's going around from, you know, shows on the flagship station, the cats, bots of the world and stuff like that. I don't know, man. Like for me, I'm good. If it takes Cooper cup 14 catches to get to 110 yards. Yes. And Matt Stafford 50 throws to get the 300. We will win that game 100 times out of 100. Yeah. See what I what I saw, I don't it wasn't the same that what Cooper cup did week one versus what we saw, Mike Evans, CD lamb and Puke Nakua do against his defense last year are completely different. Last year, it was down the field deep shots wide open stuff like that. Cooper cup. It was three yard catches, four yard five yards. That's all that was allowed. All that was open. And like I said, he ran 400 plus yards of pre snap motion. They were fighting to get him open and the entire game and we made tackles. That's what looked different. The eyeball test, look, and we're going to get better in that aspect. So we did enough to win. Yes. There were some things to improve on, but it looked different, Neil. Didn't it? It looked different. And that's a that's a defense you can win with. You want a championship with the only got to get better. It'll be interesting to see, you know, not only how healthy DJ reader is this week, but you know, the impact he's going to have. Jake says number one wide receivers torch every team. That's why they are number one wide receivers and that's true also. That that is certainly true also. And again, every game is in a vacuum, man. And every game has its flow. The further I get from it, the more I like it, that's a more of the story. But we are we are on to Tampa Bay. I'll spend the answer question. This is interesting. Does Jack Campbell losing snaps to Rodrigo and Barnes concern you? And I did notice it. And that's bad on me. And I meant to bring this up during the watch party when I was on. We saw a lot more Rodrigo than I thought that we were even prepared for. Yeah. Shut up, my boy. I can't keep them off the field. You can't. But hey, when you're when you're down the Woodward sports, man, you're a legend forever. That's for sure. And shout out Malcolm. We made some good tackles. I think it speaks more to this, DMACC. Guys like Malcolm Rodriguez are the guys you win with in the NFL. If you're a good team, you have a few Malcolm Rodriguez. I'll go deeper than that. Guys like Malcolm Rodriguez or what you want championships within any sport. Yes. Sam Flannel hates them. Absolutely. Because he's a grind line. And that's why. And the Lions do have a couple on every, or on both sides. They have Malcolm Rodriguez. They got Jaylen Reeves, Maben. And on offense, they've got a Khalif Raymond. They got a guy in Seon Vaki, who I could see becoming a piece like that further throughout the season. He got a couple snaps. He got one at fullback. I could see him getting a couple handoffs. Khalif Raymond obviously had that big end around to start over time. Like they've got guys that are reliable that are damn good football players that don't need the spotlight that get their snaps here and there and make plays when they're given the opportunity. Like Malcolm, like germ and like Khalif Raymond on the offense. And we get into this in a cat spot here. Sam also, you know, flannel said Rodrigo are worth the rosters. Well, Sam also said that Jameson Williams is a bus. That is true. Take it for what it is. I mean, the more you do you not know that guys like flannel and cats or whatever you you want to be opposite of what their opinion is to know that you're right. Yeah, more times than not. If that's my thinking it's to use them as a gauge. Broder makes a good point in this in the Wilbur Sports shed. He said could skip or be putting that character for sure. Absolutely. I said, you get you get one on one or two on each side of the ball. Like that's it on cat's body with a pathetic take. Rodrigo was a six round pick. This is a pathetic take. All right, cat spot. See, here's a deal with. It doesn't do a six round pick three years ago. I know. See, like, and here's the thing too that people forget. Like cat spot ties that to him for the rest of his career. You know when that's over cat spot, second after they say your name in the draft. The second after they say your name in the draft, that's over. Like it's 100% over. Now you're a Detroit lion. You're in the you're an NFL player. Yeah. After your name gets called you're an NFL player, then it's up to you. And it's up to your talent from there on out. And Rodrigo has proven throughout this. And he's had the ups in the downs. He's he's he came out on the scene. And look, the lion's roster necessitated at the year he was drafted that he had to be a starting linebacker as a six round pick. The roster necessitated it. That's where that's where they were as a franchise as a accumulated talent. They put up 87 tackles as a six round pick. And now as they as they acquired talent, that things kind of worked out to the way that they were supposed to be as they as they got more pieces put in here. His role diminished. And then how does he bounce back from that? That's a special team's demon. And he plays full back. And that's that's his angle. Yes. That's his angle right now. You got to have guys like that. You absolutely have to have guys like that. Look at the new England Patriots. One of the biggest dynasties of our entire lives. Yes, you talk obviously Brady and Gronk. You know, who is also a part of every single one of those teams and was one of the most touted players on their roster? Matthew Slater, Matthew Slater, Pro Bowl, every single year, those guys get that lore because the team wins. DMACC, you familiar with that at all? Yeah, no idea. If you if you go play for the Phoenix Coyotes in your career, is it in the same? No, but different role. Absolutely. Play more more minutes play more of a scoring role, probably a better stats, but not not championship. That's it. And that's all I've known you 10 years, man. It doesn't matter if you're playing in the NHL Stanley Cup finals, if we're playing in a golf outing at Chandler Park. I want to win. You you you are obsessed with dial it in obsessed with. Why would I be you know, what no matter what it is. This is the way I'm wired. Yeah. And like, that's that's it. Like me, like I'm a momentum guy. Once we once we get the vibes going and stuff like that, then we feed off each other and we're good. But you want to win. It doesn't it doesn't matter what it is. That's that's the way that you are. Have a certain things you have a ability to will. Right. There's a will to to put you in the energy in the vortex that like there's no question. Right. Like it's it's going to get done. And when you when you have those guys and then you surround that with talent and the work ethic and stuff like this, that's that's how you build that culture. So it's that's part of their culture. Having those dogs, having those guys that do all the little works. I mean, you mentioned one that gets recognition, Reece Maben. Yep. Right. How valuable it is. Well, they did Lions told you how valuable he is by making sure that they re sign him as one of the highest paid special teams guys. Right. He's a leader in that locker room again this year. That's 100% right. Like so those are the the glue guys, as they say. And when he's thrown into the defense, he makes plays. That's what I forget what game it was. If he could make the plays and they didn't have the confidence, he wouldn't be out there. Exactly. Now that's just proved. There's the difference between this and regime's past. You got guys like that that you drafted that you signed. No, you brought back the the Quintricia regime didn't see the importance of Cameron Cameron Reeds or Jalen Reeves. They have been excused me and let him walk home homes of Campbell. They bring him back because they could see what type of player he is. That is wild. Um, cat spots that you can't judge success in a vacuum that there has to be a bar. And he said the, uh, the bar is where he was picked. No, that's the most ludicrous. And you know what? Can't spot. I'll go. Okay. You know what? Then let's do it. Show me the six round picks in the NFL right now. Show them to me. Show them to me. Show me their contributions. Show me all the six, all the six right now. All of them. Yep. You know, Pavel Datsuk was taking the 171st overall. So his bar is real low. You know, Henrik Satterberg was taken in the what, like 10th round or something. Here's, here's the thing. Now it's many of the difference between 2020. I don't care where you play on this planet. You can't hide. Somebody's going to see you. Yes. Right. Back in the day, that's, that's what when you, the scouting staff outworked. And you know, do you've heard of the name Hawken Anderson, the Swedish scout, but you can get the lids trums later, the Datsukes or the Zetterbergs, the home strums, all these guys, because nobody's seen them play. Burm brings up a good point. I usually show me, show me the six round picks that are linebackers that have interceptions in the NFC Championship game. Michael says Deha branch and played wide out defensive back and special teams. All right. We'll ask a question then. And when we, well, actually we're pulling up to the second hour. We do, we're going to do top five. We can do top five ready to do top five times. Top five, top five, top five, top five, Wednesday, everybody, let's get into it. We'll start with some Swiss insurance. Yeah. Now more than ever, it is critical for you to have your insurance reviewed. How do you do that Swiss insurance? 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Put the youth back in youth sports with BGCSM 3C Sports. Hour number two, everybody big D energy, Woodward Sports Network, Neil Rule, that guy's Dara McCarty's a big breakfast guy, even at lunchtime. Oh, breakfast is the best. Hunter, I do. I'm a huge breakfast food guy. I have, uh, I have added eggs to the to the lineup. Yeah. You know, I've been doing some research on them and stuff like that. Eggs and avocado every morning, man. I'm trying to cut back on carbs a little bit, but if you put a plate of biscuits and gravy in front of me, I will tear that shit up. I love these kids and gravies elite. My grandfather was from Tennessee and he would make them from like flour. Oh, yeah. As my nanny used to make them. He had flour and then like an hour later was biscuits and gravy. I didn't ask questions. Oh, yeah. It's just wet flour on top of dry flour that was wet flour. That's it. It's so good. It is. Uh, we got silent Mike here in the building. He's been electric today, uh, with his drive. Ticks. It's not a mike. Ticks are at silent. Mike, you know you get the people going, right? Yeah. I know. I know you do. I know you do. Yeah. That's all man. That's great stuff. I love it. Silent Mike is the best bit in Woodward's history. Oh, for sure. Even better than the top five. Was she already? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Top five, top five. Spencer Raxter, why is it a top five? Because his half is boring as a top 10 list. Other shows need a top 10. Yes, we don't. We don't need that. We need five electric. Yes. Options. Last week, we did top five bad father. Yes, we did. This week, we did top five moms. Yes, we did. Three people. Silent Mike doesn't, you know, he's not a man of many words. Three people here, myself, Spenny and DMACC. It was open to interpretation. It was. And lo and behold, we got three different interpretations of the list. Yeah. Spencer Raxter. Well, I'll use haviors for last. DMACC went top five. Well, that's that's right. And I went. That's why the interpretation. When I got it, I was unclear what Spenny's text at top five moms. So I went top five of my favorite mom. Number five. Got to be Stacy's mom. Got it going on. I want and I've waited for so long. Yeah. You know, so number four. America's favorite mom. Actually, we used to call my buddy Chico, his mom, we call her peg. Because she reminded us of peg Bundy, had the hair more than anything. Well, you know what though, DMACC, we have, we have some controversy then. Why? Because I have Peggy Bundy, my top five moms list as well, but for different reasons. Well, that's that's fine. You that is, we definitely we grew up differently. So, uh, and uh, yes, um, yeah, I'm not talking on responsibility. Yeah, okay. I'm just talking about coolness. Yeah, I mean, she was hot. Yeah, do you think, where do you think we, you know, one of the places we could drink under age? And she's also I pay at pegs house. She's also Gemma. That's true. That's true. Who is that's true, but that's a bad mom for sure. Anyways, uh, then Carol Brady. I mean, everybody's everybody's, uh, favorite mom, especially Greg Brady's. Yes. But, uh, no, the fact that I think any of us who grew up with the Brady bunch and stuff like that, that was the, uh, epicenter's along with, uh, another one, leave it to Beaver, June Cleaver. Yep. Right. Oh, yeah. Exactly. Uh, central mom and number one, mom has a, has a best weed, has a mom of Jan. Juice always takes care of all their boys. So, love you, mom of Jan. Shout out number one, mom of Jan. Shout out, mom of Jan. And you, she's here in the chat somewhere. So there you go. There you go. Top five bad moms. That's a good one. No, but that was top five of my top five moms. Yeah. Top five mom, but bad mom. Bad mom. Yeah. Yeah. Bad ass mom. Yeah. That's mom. Yeah. That's mom. So there you go. There's that one. That's what it's true. That is. Uh, let's go over to spenny's top five bad moms. As you might imagine a slightly different interpretation of bad mom. Yeah. All right. My top five bad moms, I had to do number five. This is just the straight interpretation because she was a bad mom. I put Casey Anthony at number five had to put her out there because she's a bad mom. Not like not good. Bad. Like she's the one that strapped her kids into a car and drove it into a lake. Yeah. That kind of bad mom. Um, I will say this. This was the most uncomfortable I'd ever been in show research before. Yeah. That's why I just threw that one in and then I went bad moms like damn, she's bad. At number four, I got on a day arm is I'm in love with her. She's not a mother, but I said on a day arm is after we meet. So after, you know, I got a night with her. She'll be a bad mom. You're projected projecting the motherhood. Bonner off. Bonner off. She is one of the hottest with like the most attractive women I've ever seen in my entire home. Hold on. Hold on. We got some controversy. What's she in? Uh, she's in the new James Bond movie. She's the lead female in, uh, what dot? I forget what the new one was called, but yeah. Um, let's go Blade Runner with Ryan Gosling. That's a great movie. Let's go red wing Sparty. You got to remember Casey Anthony didn't do it. Allegedly. Yeah. I'm not claiming Casey Anthony is our Joe as our own J. She's she did that shit. At number three, who actually is a mom and is one of the hottest women of my life. She's been hot my whole life. Salma Hayek, Salma Hayek, like, oh my goodness. Quinn Tarantino. Quinn Tarantino is a genius for putting himself in the role to drink tequila off of her feet. Very smart man. Jesus at number two. Everybody. Yeah, I still don't fantastic movie at number two. I got Mrs. Incredible. Come on. Like, come on. This is incredible. That's a bad. She's a bad. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, she fit any shape you want. It's for sure. And then. Oh my God. Number one, and number one for my mom's out there. I got your mom. Of course you did. Yeah. There we go. Of course you do. That's my top five bad. Bunch of racters top five. Bad mom. All right. For me. My top five. Bad moms out there on number five. Helen Boucher, Bobby Boucher's mom. Oh, yeah. Shits all over the kids dreams. Lies to them. Stacy's mom was on DMACC's list. Yeah. Fakes fakes being sick to keep them out of playing the football game. And he's trying to get ahead. He's having a good time in life. Helen Boucher, I know you came off as somebody good at the end, but you're a piece of shit, mom. Yeah. You absolutely are. For sure. Number four, Honey Boo Boo's mom. Yes. Do I need to say more? Do not need mom again. Do not need to say more. Number three, Peggy Bundy. How about this controversy strikes? How about this? El Bundy goes to the shoe store every single day. Yeah. Every single day works with the public grinds all the time. Does it all? You sit your ass on the couch and eat bomb bonds all day long watching TV. You're not contributing to the bottom line. Oh, come on, Neil. What did she do? We know what she does. What did she do? She's got that, uh, that gone caught 9,000. Yeah. Okay, sure. Okay, sure. They never let you know that on the show that she brought. She brought nothing to the table. Nothing. Nothing. He said, mom, Peggy Bundy, all the way. Number two. And if number one wasn't so heinous, number two should be number one. And now that I'm thinking about it, I'm bitter. I didn't make her number one. Kate McAllister. How are you going to leave your kid? You're going to Europe. Then you'll lose him in New York. You lose him in New York. Yeah. Clearly he should have been taken away from you after the first one. Definitely not suitable to be a parent. And she did it twice. Yeah. She did it twice. It's unbelievable to me. You know what? Kate McAllister, number one, one A. That's fair. One A one B. I have to look up your number one. I was like, damn. Number one, mommy dearest up to this day. The most uncomfortable. I saw this movie when I was a kid. The most uncomfortable I've ever been. Yeah. Jesus Christ. How can it was a Joan Crawford, right? How can you even play that role? Yeah. I thought about why her hangers my entire childhood. That's that's tough. That's tough. It is. And I'll back this up by saying you the people in the chat are wrong for coming up with this one because Google bad moms. Yeah. That's tough to go through and read some of the shit you read. We have to keep this light. Yeah. Yeah. Casey Anthony was obviously the worst one. No doubt. And I had her on the list originally. I was like, I just it's dark. I can't talk. That's really dark. There was another one that I told Spiny about pre show. Yeah. That I will not talk about here to the public. So that was it. Um, yeah. DMACC should George Ribble. You're right. Kate McCouser should be number one as a matter of fact. Uh, and then when I'm guessing a heavyweight's fan, Octo Romero, Mrs. Bundy got them double D. She does for sure. Five to seven Woodward heavyweights. Mrs. Bundy was stacked up for sure. I wanted. I really wanted to put one of my like specific friends mom because she was super hot like growing up. One of my best friends growing up, his mom was fine, but I didn't do it. But you know who you are. Uh, a D's for one one. The mom's and throw, throw, mama. I could have done it. It's pretty. She gave it to me. Yeah. That's true. But yeah, there are a lot. I'll just say it like this. There's a lot of piece of shit moms out there in the world. A lot for all the run they get. There are a few out there. Yes. That are grim. More and more great than bad though. Shout out to my mom. She's a great mom. There you go. Absolutely. Uh, why is it? Why are all the comments this through all the stuff we bring up? Uh, you got Octo's comments. You got let's go Red Wing Sparty. Quote, let's just say that Mrs. Bundy could float, um, in water. She definitely could. She just have to lay in her bag. Are you guys happy with yourself? I am. I like, I'm a big milk guy. I'm a guilt guy. My go, my go quote, milks greater than gifts. For sure. For sure. But also like, you know, it's many, but that's it. Depends on the Macgill. You got it. You got to be stick and absolutely man, too. There's got you got to be an actual milk. A milk's got to be like 35 plus, like a hot 23 year old single mom. Sorry. You're not an actual milk. I mean, I'll call you a milf. I'm trying to come over when your kids are in school, but like an actual milf. If you're going to count it in, you got to be like 35 plus Don Donovan. What about Harvey by his mom for allowing him to play baseball as a kid. That's a good one up there with up there with Casey Anthony. Yes. Now that's egregious. I will not do that one. Jack Harrington, this was the worst top five either. You guys came up with it. Yeah. Lots of love for Dorothy Man tooth out there as well. Yeah, Jack Harrington. We got Jack. I mean, be quiet. He's gonna have to go back to your so-called arena slash racetrack in like less than a month. You're Lego. Yeah, I'll do a dance. Good one. Another girl. It's been hot my whole life. Who's that? Hilary Duff. She has been home. Yeah. And she's 35 36. So she definitely she is a smoke show. Oh, yeah. Hilary Duff. Oh my goodness. No doubt. She was the original Jennifer Love Hewitt. He was married to Mike my comrade. Really? She was a yeah, she's been hot my whole life. When I was a kid and she had her show, I was like, wow, she's hot. Now she's 36. Damn, she is hot. One of the child stars that made it out. Absolutely. She's like normal, too. She's a cool person. Stick also jumped in quote. Stick. Joan Cleaver could quote get the business. Joan Cleaver could get the business. For sure. Is that true? That is true. Oh, I'll do. Spaddies going over there. Hi, Mrs. Cleaver. You know what? Shame on me. Shame on me for not seeing this ending this way. Hey, man. I feel like a rookie. That was a rookie move. I thought it was fun. I had a good time. That was a rookie move on my part. I thought that this would become like some thought on society about bad moms. No, that goes back to to Peggy Bundy, quote, floating in one. You ever see Dexter's laboratory? The mom from Dexter's laboratory, she's got a dump truck on her. It's crazy. No, Chuck, we will not read messages about shaving the beaver or anything like that. We're not doing that. Let me tell you. Let me tell you guys. You know, I waited for the people to get it out there. Yeah. Just so I just so I could hit the eject button. That's fair. Please. And you know, if you want to move to a house that has a hot mom living next door, all you got to do is hit on Mark White. Mark White will say, get the five grand on your closing cost. That's right. I said $5,000. 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James has been campaigning for this for a couple weeks now. He's hit me up on Twitter. He's in in all the chats. He says, Neil, I am finally willing to lay my rest of my campaign for top five fluids. Good. But could I get top five mythical creatures as a consolation? What is even that? Like unicorns, minotaurs, sirens, cyclops. Yeah, I'm a gorgon. I'm a gorgon. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on a sec. We got everybody shut up. I'll say that demo gorgon from a stranger thing. All right. Why don't you just be quiet over this? Oh, dude. Wait, we got a hard read of any of these mythical creatures. We got a reaction from silent Mike. Did anybody get that? Okay. You know what? In honor of it being so moving, that silent Mike. Communicated on it. I'll give it a spin. Let's go. I'll give it a spin. We're going to lose everybody. Oh, the run in 99 dragons are real. So they don't count as a mythical creature. Just saying. There's literally a Komodo dragon. Really? I believe the dragons used to be real. Can we get the audio people to get a drop of silent Mike saying really? Really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's a leap. We can get that. Somebody make a note of that. I have to have that. We can get that. Tell KG. We'll do it. 1219. Bob Ross said, "Ugg, no." You know what, guys? No one's more upset about it than me. So just save your comments about it in the chat. I hate it too. But it's not about me. And it's not about what I want. Number one's got to be Bigfoot. Dude's got lore. Okay. All right. Everybody, move on. I'm going to get real nerdy with it, Neil, too. You're not. It's Jesus Christ. You're going to love it. Man, I hope I have something to do Wednesday. All right, everybody. Let's get back to the football. Shall we? We talked about the Jack Campbell thing. All right. Let's just break this down, DMACC, and get into it because this is the talking point. And we've heard the people, the branding cat spots of the world, and Freddie felt Silent Mike needs the eight to 10 spot Woodward sports. Here's a deal, DMACC. And I'll say my answer to this question is fluid. Not a top five fluid, but it's fluid. Spenty asks the question, "Are you confident in the line secondary going up against Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, and Baker Mayfield?" Yeah, as long as what it is that can tackle. I mean, yeah, they're going to get their yards and stuff like this. But it's like we said yesterday, I'm interested to see impact DJ Rita has. Hopefully, we can get more pressure on Baker, who's not as mobile, maybe as or as sly as Stafford. Baker gets stubborn, right? Yeah. So he gets stubborn and I mean, he's a good quarterback. His number, look what he did week one and looking to do it again. And he mentioned those receivers, but confidence that we can hold them, right? That's what it is. Yes, Neil, and it starts with the tackling. That's the biggest difference that I think the apparent imperativeness as the week goes on going, wow, we are a good tackling team. And if we tackle, we're going to give out some yards. But like Spenty said, look at the way that teams have to scheme against us. Pre-action has got to get their best receiver 400 yards behind the line of scrimmage just to get them three yards open. I like it. You know, Matthew Stafford having to throw 50 times 49 times to get 300 yards. That's a good sign. And DMACC, I will say it this way. I am infinitely more confident than I was even a couple of days ago, even three days ago, because I'm not going to lie. And I talked about a lot on this network, the Terrian Arnold situation where he's going to be your, one of your main dudes, right? Safe to say, is he, is he CB one? Terrian Arnold? Yeah, no. Like CB one loading? For the lions? Yeah. Yeah, maybe. But Carleton Davis is going to make one. Right. But CB one loading. Yes, he is the heir apparent. He's the heir apparent. You're going to have two number ones. But for me, DMACC, I was very skeptical of that. Well, we had to see it. We had to see this new D and they're only got that's the thing also to is they're only going to get better. You can't teach tackling, right? So that's something that last year, like I, like the way that they did, you brought it up earlier, the way that guys ran open. Now we will see, because again, look, you've played two, you're playing the two teams early in the season that you played in the playoffs last year, that you have the book on you, you know, what they did to you. So you, you're going to team up. The difference is the secondary is totally different, right? Except for branch, except for linebackers. The quarterbacks are different. So, so I think the adjustment has to be made more by Tampa than it has to be by us. Uh, no, and DMACC, like for me, and there's CatSpot again, this is dumped take by Neil. The Rams offensive line was decimated. This doesn't, this doesn't have anything to do with that. I'm talking about what I saw from the secondary, what I saw from Terry and Arnold, just exclusively that because that was my biggest question because DMACC, this goes all of this, goes back to the point that this, this team is in a Super Bowl window right now, right now, it's go time to win the Super Bowl. What is the most vital thing that had to improve for this team to be a Super Bowl champion, this team that knocked on the door that was 14 minutes away from being in the Super Bowl. What was the one thing that had to improve that had to, you just said it. And from what I saw, week one of a dude's career, week one of a team with a unit that has to improve for them to clear the final hurdle. And when a Super Bowl, something this franchise has never done before. I like what I saw. I like what I saw. I like that receivers caught passes and then we're tackled. I like that. And you cannot, you cannot tell me that wasn't the case. 50 passes to get 300 yards, Cooper cup catching 14 balls to go over 100 yards. That tells me right there. Tackling was on point. You can, you can spin that any way you want to spin it. You can cook up whatever bullshit you want to cook up. It doesn't matter. The math, maths here. The man got in there and stuck his face in there and made tackles. He's good with me. To me, like we talk about this, Terry Arnold, to me, just on his ability to tackle alone and held his own against Cooper cup. Enough to the point where I'll say this, Cooper, Terry Arnold and the job he did against Cooper cup out there on the island against him, locked up with him, makes him good in any hood in the NFL. To me, right away. And guess what? We're going to find out again on Sunday and he gets another one and another one. Because that's how this league works. Everybody's got one. To me, it's good enough, DMACC. I will make that proclamation now. My biggest question, Mark, I'm cool with after one game. Here we go. Amen. No, I agree. I agree. I saw what I was told. But it's on brand for what comes out, what comes out of the island part. Bizarro brand and cats. I like listening to everybody's takes. You guys are all so smart. Ed said, thanks, Bizarro. So there's that one out there as well. But yeah, no, that's why. And then for the does it for the whole Stafford wasn't throwing down the field because of the offensive line thing. Guess what the Buccaneers are going to do? They're going to spin that thing. They're going to spin that thing. I will tell you this, though. I am very comfortable, very comfortable with this spot for the lions. I'm very comfortable with it. And as the week goes on, we'll check the we'll check the lines at Caesar Sportsbook, the official sports book, a Woodward Sports. We'll check the lines and we'll monitor them. But I think Vegas and the folks at Caesars, they kind of share my sediment. 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And we're doing it, everybody. And we are. We're talking lions. We're talking about Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the the secondary because this is going to continue to be this is going to continue to be a discussion point. And you know what's wild about this DMACC and it just kind of popped in my head is is this. You know what's wild about this whole lion's thing is we're going to go back and forth and the lions will play a couple of clunkers because every NFL team does and they'll lose and they'll get filleted by the people out there and they'll say, see, I told you this wasn't real and all that kind of stuff. And that's a way that it works. And the thing that probably isn't going to be fair, but is 100% accurate and the way it works when you're chasing a Super Bowl because I will reference this all season long. This is a Super Bowl window. The expectation is the Super Bowl. Anything other than that, you did not meet the objective. Right, Spenny? They're correct. It is a failure. It is a failure. That's the definition. You do not win the Super Bowl. The season is a failure. And that is where we are at right now. We are in the water with the Kansas cities and the 49ers and the Eagles. I won't put the Cowboys in there because they have to learn how to do it. They have to learn how to win first because they haven't they haven't been in the NFC Championship game in almost 30 years. So, you know, that's that's something where they're going to have to learn. They're not quite in those waters, but we are. And DMACC, when it all comes down to it, one play. Mark me on this one. One play is going to define everything. I don't know what that play is going to be. It's the is it's the NFL. One play. It's one play league. It's an and do you feel you have the playmakers? Whether it's on defense to make a player on offense? I think yes, we do. We proven that and it's just like it's it. How do you want it, baby? Yeah. How do you want it? Right? And like that's the one thing too. I think that you're establishing defensively and it showed you still got guys back there like a Kirby ball, hawking the heck, you know, schemes, different stuff like that. So I like I said, this defense and in this secondary as they play more together will only get better. That's Terry and Arnold's first game. And yeah, you could say whatever you want, but for a rookie guy to do all the little things, you're going to get beat. He's going to who's he going to go up against this this week? Mike Evans or Godwin? Probably. Yeah, probably Godwin. I would say there's another big test. So throw him right in the fire early. We'll see what we got. So to me, it's more than just him. It's my committee. Like I said, but this will be a big week. Big motivation for Carlton Davis playing is playing his old team. Personal. And do you not? And let me ask you this question. Do you think Carlton Davis from what we've seen out of him takes takes things personal and remembers stuff and would bring this up and is motivated like that? I do. I feel a DMACC vibe in Carlton Davis. Like like I know what you did, and I'm going to show you that we were wrong with sports chat thread. Rugby Tony, pretty awesome. As we have never been like this in terms of being elite in my lifetime. And rugby Tony, that's why I will take a segment every week, probably, and discuss it and discuss this point. And because these are the waters that we are in. Would you have some money? Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure. But these are the waters that we're in right now. So for me, it's just it's one of those things where we need to be comfortable with that because one play is going to define this at some point down the highway. It is. And the week to week we'll get through. And like I said, you'll take the wins and you'll analyze the wins and there'll be a couple of clunkers in there where the lions get cooked and they'll win it. They'll lose a game that they shouldn't lose because that's the way this league works. Could be like, I got my eye on that Indianapolis Colts game. Yep. I just do the Colts. Always get everyone. Titans would be a trap game in there. They're too good to lose the tides, but they could lose the Colts. It's fair. 100% they could. So, you know, it is. It's just it was one of those things, man. We got to get comfortable. I want to I want to talk about that though, DMACC. The Carlton Davis thing, the old team thing. Take me through that, man. Your first time you played against the red. Oh, dude. Yeah. I mean, I remember it's it's it'll be different because it was different playing in Calgary against the wings. And it was the first time back in your old building and then I'll say that was freaky. You know, like just surreal moment, almost like multiverse going in the other classroom. But the confidence at home and I was lucky because I actually scored against Manny Legacy. I'll never let him live that down on a wrap around. So that was that was a vibe. But that was, you know, one of those things that that yeah, it felt good. If there's any one of my 127 regular season goals that was special, that would have been one of them, right? Just, you know, and it wasn't on a hard feelings, right? I think it's just, you know, like, because it was it just gets you juiced up was business, but it was something you had to prove to your guys. It's the, you know, you have to there's two two moments. I remember scoring that goal. And also back at LCA, I laid malts out in front of our bench. And enough that there then we were down like three and often after one that Daryl Sutter, of course, at the time said, look at this guy, you want championships and he gives a shit. But I'll never let malts. He knows I laid him out. So those are the two things to remember. But yeah, it means something. And this will mean something because it's real fresh, right? It's real fresh. It just sort of happened. So it's and it's about keeping emotions in check. But here's the one thing too. How many times is Carlton Davis gone against Mike Evans in practice the last few years in Tampa Bay? So so it plays out well, if you're looking to the balance, like I said earlier, of who has to adjust the the plate sheet, because we have all the different tape of how successful Tampa Bay's receivers can be against us. But we're different. So you're going into a whole different unit and let alone you have one of your guys on the other side that knows what you like to do formation, stuff and practices sets up even better as we talk it out deal, even better to what you're saying why Vegas has this at a touchdown or even more. Jake, uh, lions lose that game if they lose a coin toss and over reaction Monday would then be a different story. And see, like, this is the last I'm talking on this week because because we move on, because I find that I find that take to be rather entertaining. Because what basis do you have to put that on? For real, like what basis do you have to put that on? They had just gotten a stop to get the ball back to get the game time. Like they had just gotten off the field. You know who wasn't going to get off the field? The Rams defense. That's a, they were emasculated out there in overtime. Peninsula pushed a pile of humanity four yards down the field on his own. If you want a great example of the field or the ice tilting, that was it. That's it. That's the example. Because you just felt it. It was just inevitable. Like, like that, like the last punch into it was over before it was over. They might as well just have succeeded. Right. Chuck, I have faith that the defense holds them to a field goal at worst. Then we score a touchdown and win. Brandon Katz, Neil is delusional. Stafford was carving the lines up the whole second half. Again, Detroit cannot get stopped. Katz, what did they do to get the ball back? What did they do? Stafford could have put the game out of reach to scores. Well, and he was carving them up. So why didn't he? If he was carving them up, quote, carving them up, then why didn't he? And this is the way the NFL is. Defense got the stop. The Rams never got the ball back except for the interception that Stafford almost threw at the end of the game. Yep. But you forget that, Cat's bot, right? You forget that. Carving them, carving them up on two two yard routes. Yeah. Sorry, Cat's bot. They didn't win 49 nothing. Sorry. Sorry they didn't meet your expectation, bro. So, uh, so yeah, that is it. Let's do go to break. Yeah, I'm going to do the break. I'm just trying to decide where we're going to go. 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I said to myself, no way the quarterback room is that bad. But guess what? The quarterback room was that bad. And they got cooked. Yes. And I was wrong. I was very, very happy with the Spartans performance. Obviously, you know, they get to two and oh, they're late in the big time. Look out. You know, obviously they're one and oh, in the big time. Maryland is is there no slouch. They're no awful team. I mean, they're no world beater either. But it was a good win. I liked what Aidan Childs did aside from the interceptions. But he's 18. He's getting better every week. That's what I need to see. He was a lot better than he was. Was it more than you thought? Because it was more than I thought improvement? Yeah. No, I I figured that it would be like this because like I said, in week one, the plays were there to be made. The offensive scheme worked. He just didn't make the plays. He looked better. Obviously, he needs to clean up the interceptions still, but Nick Marsh coming out party. You know, one of the best freshmen in the big 10 already eight catches 198 yards and a touchdown. Dude, six, four, two, 15, 18 years old loved him. That connection is going to be very good for a couple of years here in Michigan in East Lansing. So it's happy with that. The defense looked good again. They're making plays. They're making tackles. The linebacker core looks damn good. Chris Bogle looks like a monster on the defensive line. He was the Florida transfer from last year number two. So yeah, I was happy with their performance. Big test coming up in Boston College night game. You're going to have to stop the run because Boston College ran all over Florida state. Yes, they did. So you're going to have to stop the run. But I like our odds going up going to Boston College. If they win that game, they will they will have my full attention. Not a lot in terms of like going to the playoff or anything like that. They would be further along than I thought they were going to. Yeah, this is this is a tough especially off the Florida Atlantic performance. I was like, and that was a thing, right? Like with my Michigan thing with Texas, there were Michigan State versus Florida Atlantic vibes to it. Yeah, and we're playing some, I don't think like Furman or something this week. I don't even know what it who the team is that we're playing this week. But when we go to Boston College, that's going to be the tough one. And I talked about it in the in the when we were breaking down the teams. And I talked about the linebacker core of Michigan State and how that was going to be the highlight of their defense. And you look at what they got, you know, Jordan Turner, the transfer from Wisconsin is everywhere. Cal Halliday is everywhere. You got Wayne Matthews coming off the bench who was another transfer from Old Dominion who had like 130 tackles last year. And then a guy who really done the stretch became one of, if not the best player on this Michigan State defense last year, Jordan Hall, athletic and making plays. The line back and core is deep. You got four very good backers back there. And I'm excited to see they need to go out there and just absolutely, yeah, they play Prairie View. Thank you, Mason, Mason leech. So go out there and just dominate Prairie View. I want to see 400 yards of total offense. Just put up you want blood in the streets. I want blood in the streets. Get a good tune up. Aidan, child's don't throw an interception in this game. Get comfortable going into Boston College next week. All right. So so there's that's the recap. Appreciate it. I was I was pleasantly surprised, I guess. I did not expect them to win that football game, especially to they were down. Got down early. Yeah, down early. So I really didn't expect it then. But they did. But DMACC were you because I was like all the all the hahaha he he stuff. Were you surprised by what transpired in Michigan? You know what? Not really. Not not really because the question mark in a week what they solve. I think the answer was the as Quinn is 20 years that guy. Can he be that guy this year for Texas? Is Texas you know legit? That was more more of it. I think that the whole thing as I'm sitting here this week is that if I'm a Michigan fan, I'm looking down at Michigan State because I said to spending before the show look at what Michigan State did with the 18 year old and the 17 year old. Don't don't care. Just went out and played and won. Right. How is that not the situation in Michigan not saying that they would have executed it but having that option. So I think that if if it's that bad for Michigan, there's that quarterback, they should be saying, why don't we start the young guy? Why don't we get him in if this is the way it's going to be. Look at the way it's going down the road, which I don't think it's going to be. But but if I'm a Sparty fan, not only yes, taken but but the future or what you've done there and the talent hats off to the young kids. But that tells you that the future is brighter maybe than you thought because you've got to give them credit for going and doing it the way that they did it. No one expected them to be able to do it and how they did it. So I think that's you know, that's that's the key. That is that young talent like I said, at state and and Michigan, they're still they don't know. With Michigan, I think they either got to go one of two way they can't start the crossroads again. You can't you can't start Davis Warren. You either need to go full gimmick offense with orgy running a triple option and having Colston Loveland as his one receiving option and then kicking it to Donovan Edwards or taking it himself. Or you need to give the keys to Caden Davis because there's no way Caden Davis can be worse than Davis Warren. It's impossible and and they're they're reportedly they're going to orgy's going to start this weekend, right? Like that's I'd heard that discussion. I don't know. Maybe someone in the chat can maybe someone in the chat can can drop that one in there. But that's my understanding is that orgy's going to start from Michigan. And you know, you can you can do the thing too where you can say that they're back and stuff like that and Davis. Excuse me, my kid. Yeah. No, but but you know, you can do the thing where because they'll do they'll come out. They'll light up Arkansas state or whatever. Either way, I mean, because the athletes are superior. It can be ugly and they could still they could still light them up. But if they I think that because orgy'll get to start this week and then you'll see it and then they'll have success. And then the fan base will say, see, see, see, see, see. And like there and that's a that's going to happen. Like I can see that happening before it even happens. And that was like two. Do you think that Michigan's a top 25 football team? Do you think they're the 17th team in the nation? I don't think they're 17. I would say they're top 25. Yeah. And you knew like they weren't going to fall to top 25 because the USC game's coming up next week. That's that's that's huge. And you need to keep that you need to keep that number next to their name, you know, before the gaming and USC. So there were no surprises. But Dimek, I was I was stunned. C K says orgy is not starting, which I had heard I had heard the discussion had started. It should be him or Jaden Davis. I feel like there's no way you can bring out Davis for him again. He is not good. And that and that's where at least orgy at least orgy gives you an elite dynamic. Like he is an elite athlete and you get him on the edge in a power sweep that that can that can make something happen. Yeah. So we'll monitor that and see how it shakes out. It's just I'm stunned that that quarterback room at Michigan coming off a national title. Yeah. Is is that no they if Michigan would have shelved five million dollars the Cam Ward just come play quarterback. Do you even imagine they would be probably the title favorite. Right. Right. So all right. Let's do this. Take the break. Come back. I got to get right for the people and honor a Caesar sports book. So let's let's do that. Tell us about playing fitness. Let's do it everybody. We're live at the planet fitness studios. You guys already know that though. They're the best gym in the country. And guess what? They're one of the best values in the gym game in the country as well. Over 50 Metro Detroit locations over 2,600 of them worldwide in the black card still just 24 99 a month. Some of you are paying 90 100 bucks for a gym membership. You are and you know who you are. And my question is why? Why would you do that when planet fitness has everything you need? 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Final segment of the show we talked earlier about the fact that Woodward sports has a new partner. The official sports book of Woodward sports, Caesar's sports book everybody. And in honor of that, I have a late night get right. You guys know anything north at 10 p.m. on a Saturday is my time. Oh yeah for a multitude of reasons. Pretty good your money. That is. And I've helped the people time and time again. I just last week. The the Chi was off. You could tell a new game. That's not where the get right lives. No, no, the get right lives in the darkness. The get right lives when you're looking at the at yourself going, what did I do? I just went one and six. How can I get this all back? And then old uncle Neil has got you covered. You can see you feel in the vibe. Spenny. I'm getting back into the roots right now as a matter of fact. According to Caesar sports book, we got a late just a little bit with this one. But I'm in on it and I'm giving it out now because I don't want the line to move anymore. I liked it better earlier this week when it was minus 130. But I'm taking you to Vegas for the first time. UFC. Spenny. Oh yeah. Your lane. I love it. Sean O'Malley. Yes. Ooh. Lock. Absolute lock. They're out there in the sphere in Vegas. They want to show Sean O'Malley's going to give it to him everybody. He's minus 140. Lock it in. Lock. I know. We don't usually do this. We're we're we're laying is that Saturday night? Saturday night. All right. Lock it in. It's in the darkness, D-Mac. I'll be out on the deck. I'll have the birth. You know, hey, we know that the get right is let me see how we got it. We got to get it official here. We know that the get right as it sits right now is 57 and 27 after that Michigan lost last week. You think we're going to 57 and 20? No chance. D-Mac. I'll be out on the deck. There'll be a fire in the fireplace. There'll be some bourbon in the glass. D-Mac, you know, that is where I live. This one's not going off till about 12 30 a.m. This is there's been no more guarantee in the world than this fight. No more guarantee. Lock it in, folks. He's serious. I am D-Mac. You think I'm going to play around with his sports book? Not with the get right. We're going to give him a taste. We're going to give him a taste right now. So Sean L. Malley. Lock it in, everybody. Lock it in. There's your get right. I stand on business with this one. I can't wait. All right, everybody. That will do it for my guy D-Mac for silent Mike for Spencer Raxter. I'm Neil Rule. Thanks for tapping in to the energy. What were sports works now, work well, see you later. (upbeat music)