Test Match Special

No Balls: Kate Cross's Barmy Army

Kate Cross and Alex Hartley are in Belfast after Kate secured her first series win as England captain. She tells us she is enjoying the responsibility of captaincy after taking six wickets in the opening match at the weekend. And we're joined by record-breaking batter Tammy Beaumont, after her latest ODI century.

Duration:: 34m
Broadcast on:: 11 Sep 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

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Series with 4K Cross. I've heard, I've played two games of cricket and all I could hear was you and Hen Channied. Kate Crosses, Barbie Army. Do, do, do, do. Small Barbie Army we had here. Yes, just for two of us. There was a couple of "No More's" fans, but they never came to sit with me. So, I don't know if they were embarrassed or they felt like they couldn't. Did you send anyone a pint over? Nope, no one asked for a pint. Oh, you've missed a cricket, guys. I know, because I was on the pint too. Crossy series win. Series win, baby. Captain. Captain, yeah. It's been so much fun. Has it? I've really enjoyed it. Obviously, winning helps. I think if we'd been sat here and been not from to, I might not have enjoyed it as much. Yeah. But yeah, it's been good fun. The girls have been unbelievable. Me and John Lewis, original John Lewis, technically, not head coach John Lewis, we've given seven caps out. Yep. Six people? Six people. So, yeah, we've really made a dent into English women's cricket history. I love that, but you've also been so dominant with the two teams that you've played. Saturday, first game, Sun was shining. Gorgeous day. Amazing day. That's a warm day. Good game, actually. The island, like, we're on top for a little bit as well, weren't they? How did you find that? That was probably my most stressful bit. I was like, "Oh, my God, I'm not equipped to do this job." And then, it was so good having me. Like, I've got Tammy on the pitch. We've got Holly on the pitch. I really respect her as a captain. Obviously, she's captain me at Superchargers. So, I had a lot of people that I could bounce ideas off, which are very helpful. But, yeah, there was definitely a moment when I was like, "What do I do here?" Because we just couldn't break the partnership, which is obviously cricket. That's so normal. When you're captain, you're thinking, "Oh, my God, my decisions are now affecting this." So, you brought yourself on. You brought a task. You broke the partnership. You got Sixfer, your first game as captain. Yeah. And then, yesterday, you got three for eight in four overs. You've broken loads of records in yourself, like, so many records. And I've screenshot them all. Okay. And you'll probably know them. But I've got them all just in case. And hyper-cost is slid into my DMs, so I can reel them all off. Okay. Right, I'm listening. So, some stats to Bombard Kate with. Second best ODI figures by an English woman. Joe Chamberlain, number one. Joe Chamberlain, number one. Seven for nine. She got against Denmark. Yeah. We're doing our research right now. You got six for 30. Best ODI figures by an England women's captain. Second best figures by any captain in women's ODI's. That's in the world. Second woman ever and first captain to take six wickets and score 30 plus runs in the same ODI. Korea best with the ball. Korea best with the bat. This is only one game, by the way. First England women's captain to take a wicket in the first over of an ODI. You then broke that because you took two wickets in and over in an ODI. You are now six all time list a English women's wicket takers. In your last two games, this is before yesterday. You'd bold 18.30 of us taking 12 wickets for 70 at 3.7. That then went down because you got three for eight. There is more. There is more. And then hypercourse comes in again. She's now the first captain in women's ODI history to take two wickets in the first over of an innings and with a game to go, you have already broken the record for the most wickets by a captain in a three match ODI series. You also, you also need two, this is going to put pressure on you. You need two wickets to become the second fastest English woman to 100 ODI wickets. Oh really? I didn't know that one. I knew all the other ones because they've all been thrown around on Twitter. There's more. Honestly, there is more. But I can't even find them. Clossey. What can I say? When you're on your own? I think captaincy might suit you. The captaincy thing. You also have the third oldest bowler to take six wickets in an ODI. That's good. That's a nice one to have. So I think you've been captain. The captaincy thing, obviously the bowling, I know how to bowling one day cricket. So I wasn't, not that I wasn't worried about it, but I knew that I wanted my role to stay the same regardless of captaincy. But I tell you where the captaincy really came in was when I went out to bat and I was like, I have to take responsibility here and I have to play well to like not lose this game of cricket. You got a career best with the ball and then a career best with the bat. It was so fun. Loved that in the best. Loved it. You're a freak. I'm not. I'm not. I'm just feel like I'm in a good place with my cricket. And we were actually speaking about this the other day weren't we? Like, happy minds make happy cricketers. Yeah. And I feel tired at the end of season and obviously with the captaincy there's just more responsibility more to think about. Did you feel that responsibility with the bat when you went out because you were in a bit of trouble? That's what I mean. That was when I really switched on and was like, I have to do well here. If I had got a first ball that then I'd look like a really crap captain. Yeah. Or not necessarily a crap captain, but like I'm always banging on about trying about higher up the order. You can't bat higher up the order. We told you you were too high the other day. I would have got the, would I have beat in the record? I'm pretty sure you only need 30 and you got 38 red. It's a shame. Of 36 balls as well, you went more than a runnable. Um, but yeah, it's just been so much fun. And you know what? I've loved the most. It's like the response that I've had from the team. Because sometimes, I don't know, you can just, your voice is heard more because you're captain. And then when you have a day like I did on Saturday, you almost are like, Oh God, it's about me. And I didn't want it to be about me. Like there was five girls that day that made the day views. They got to sing the England song for the first time and have their first England win. And it was so special. There was family members there. We did the, obviously, cap presentations at the start of the game, but then we did the cap presentation at the end of the game, which was becoming a bit of a tradition now where the last debut Tom passes the cap on to the next debut on. Right. So all the family members come into the dressing room. Um, so it was Bess Heath, who'd last made her ODI debut, who then had to hand out another cap to five new players. So what, is it just one cap? Yeah, so it's like, you know, the baggy blue presentation. So like Paul Holly Armitage will have had that cap for three minutes before passing it on. Yeah. But that, the point of it is like you're passing on the cap to the next person. So obviously it was very unique because there was five denitons. Um, Bess did really well. She did a like speech just generally about what making your debut is about a New England careers, et cetera. Um, that cap then got passed on from Hannah Baker to Georgia Davis yesterday. Um, because of the sparks connection, the, the brumis, the brumis together. Um, so yeah, it's just, it's been a really special week. It's been really unusual and really unique, but it's been so special, and obviously to get the series win with a game in hand. And I think it was something like our seventh 30 I series win in the bounce, which has never happened before. Um, it just goes to show that English women's cricket is in a really good place, and you always fear that when you retire, it might not. You, you want to leave the team in a better place than you left it, than you found it, sorry. I don't worry, you will. But I don't know, there's always that worry that like these girls, they just don't know what they're, what to expect at international level, but they've all come in and done well. So that's been like probably the highlight of it for me. So you've been absolutely outstanding in this series, but so is this person. Shall we have a listen? We've got a very, very, very special guest who's just walked into the team room. It's England's leading ODI Runscorer with centuries that makes no sense. It's really complicated. Tammy Bummer! Tammy! As about to just like hang on, restart, restart. I'm not leading Runscorer, I know where near. Well, you've scored the most centuries for England in ODI cricket. Correct. Congratulations. How does that feel? I'm pretty tired today, it feels tiring. No, it feels amazing. Something I've probably known about for a while, that I was kind of joined. But yeah, it's kind of, I feel like these days records are just, you set them to be broken by the future generations. Yeah, can't wait for someone to overtake me, but yeah, I'm pretty happy, happy with yesterday. We were actually talking this morning because you, remind us when you got your ninth, to join Mottie. Oh, ages ago. So, how's that been since then? Because if I was you, I'd be striving to top that table. How's it been, has it been frustrating? Has it been something that's kept you going? How's it all felt knowing that you've won away from being the best that we've had? Yeah, I think it has been a bit tough. I think particularly kind of becoming a bit of a one format player for the last couple of years with the ODI's, I think it's kind of put more pressure on that as such. But at the same time last summer, I felt like I contributed in the two ODI's in the ashes, which I think was important, and the way we wanted to play, I was pretty happy with how I played, even though I kind of got, I think, 40 and 60 or whatever. So, it's a tough one because when you're opening the bat in, you're trying to set the tone for the team, and it's not about personal accolades or personal scores, but at the same time, yeah, it's nice to get them at the same time. We saw yesterday, so like, you're on 70. No, actually, you were on 80, Kempe was on 40, and I was like, then you were on 85, Kempe was on 65. I mean, Hen looked at each other like, "Is Kempe gonna get there before Tommy? Kempe gets out." You get to 100, there's a big call through the speaker of you now leading ODI century getters. You're gonna get it right by the end of this podcast. It's so hard to say. And then, Tommy, the handbrake came off and my God, I swear you hit five fours in the next over. You then went from 100 to 150 in absolutely no time. Like, that must have been quite nice, okay, I've got there. I've got a bit of freedom here. Yeah, it was a little bit, I think also. I actually thought I was chewing them a bit, but I had a little look last night. I actually faced like far less balls in that partnership and probably actually played my role perfectly when someone can strike the ball like Kempe was yesterday. My job was to get her on strike and actually, yeah, she did her job. And yeah, I genuinely thought one point I was like, "Go on Kempe, overtake me on." Show was how it's done. But I thought she backed beautifully. And then, yeah, once, it was actually what Kate said, after I got to my 100, actually, it was more important to have a set batter in that last 10 overs and that kind of spurred me on because at that point my back had gone and I was every time I was the one that I was getting a shooting fan down my leg. But, yeah, what Kate said kind of brought me back to life thinking like, "Actually, no, this is the time to take it on and capitalise because that's what the team needed." And I was like, "I have some fun." Yeah, it was fun. She's so funny to back with. Because I remember back with you in Dunedin and I actually didn't... Oh, you know she got 100? No, I didn't get 100 years today. No, I was out there yesterday for the 100. I was like, "I'm going to make sure I'm out." Yeah, I already had 10 if Kate hadn't got out. I was stranded on 95. In Dunedin. And I got out to Mealy Kerr and we reviewed it. It was LBW. I was like, "I don't think that was out." And I was like, "No, I don't think it was out." And it was like hitting middle of middle. I was like, "Oh my God, I'm so sorry, Tommy." So yesterday I was like, "I'm getting it to 100." Like, "I'm making sure I'm out." That was actually number 11. She's not number 11, really. Exactly. But she's so funny to back with. So I've come out. It's like, "Tom, you're doing amazing." She was like, "Why are you lying?" I feel crap. I'm chewing them. I was like, "Oh my gosh, you're 95 now, mate." I was like, "I wouldn't be feeling like that. I'm 95 now." So what's next for Tommy Obama? You've now got 10 centuries for England. Like, is there like, are you thinking about 12, 15? Or is it like, "Okay, I've got 10. I've broken a record." But actually say it's not about the records, it's about team. Yeah, I think records are nice. But I think that's something you sort of, I don't want to think about until I finish and get to look back at lots of amazing things. I think for me it's about the team and what's next. For this 50 over team, in like a year's time, we've got a very big World Cup to come. And it also enashes in a way. I've only ever won one, but I didn't really win it, I think. I carry the drinks very well. And played in a good draw. So yeah, I think for me there's lots of kind of team accolades that I'm desperate to push for. And while everyone's contributing for that, that's the main goal. I mean, Al, we're talking this morning about not a silver blunts, obviously, excelled since she's married Catherine. And that's that start about her stats before marriage and after marriage. You've recently got married. Are we thinking now, now who are you going to go? 20 centuries, maybe. Don't know, baby. I mean, the first three months of marriage, my cookie was pretty average. Maybe I needed to get divorced. Don't tell Callum. No, he's cool. He's all good. He's safe. But yeah, maybe. Maybe this is the turning point. Maybe. Right. Okay. I want to know what it's been like for you, because we know we're your friends. I know. I'm your friend. But everyone listening doesn't know, like, what has your journey actually been like? Because it's not been easy, has it? I don't know. We're talking about you breaking records. And you're a *******ed cricketer. And you deserve all the records. Hang on. Can you swear on the BBC? Yeah, we don't. It gets picked up. But the last, like, four or five years and, like, getting dropped from T20 team, like, it's not been easy, has it? Well, I don't even think it's the last, like, four or five years. I think it's been, like, career. Yeah. But you've been on the pub. She's been on the pub before and talked about, I remember how good your story was about getting to number one and being the best ODI batter. And that was a great story. So anyone should go back and listen to that episode because it was excellent. I don't know. But yeah, I think I don't know. I guess that kind of sums up my whole career as kind of, whenever you get knocked down, you just get up and go again. I actually probably struggled with the whole people calling me resilient. I think I just don't give up. There's just a difference. Like, if you just endure enough rubbish, you come back around. And that kind of is what it feels like with my career. With my career that I've just put up with a lot. You must love the game to carry on, like, and to keep going. Yeah, I guess so. I think for me, I've always said if I felt like I had more to give or was still good enough to do it, I'd keep trying. So yeah, I guess that's kind of where I've been for a while. Yeah. Do you think, you say putting up with all the crap? Do you think that's what's got you here to be, like, top of the tree? Yeah? Yeah, I think so. I think any, when you listen to any sports person that's kind of one of the, I'm not saying I am, but you speak to anyone that's got to the top, they've almost always had some sort of, like, adversity to come against. And at some point found it tough and had to go through those times and work out, you know, and come back stronger each time. And yeah, I guess that's probably what's made it here. And I think being an opening batter as well, I think, like, there's so much out of your control. Like, I think it's always difficult. You know, the first idea, I got bored with my name on it. And it was an absolute peach from all of Prendiast. And, you know, you think you're going to play Ireland, you should just be able to knock out as many as you want. But that's, that's cricket for you. And that's why it's a real leveler. And that's why it's a tough game. It's a tough mental game, but yeah, I guess. I always just think, like, the best athletes, like you said, the ones that have got the stories to talk about, they've always had a bit of a point to prove. And I feel like if that's something that you feel, then that's what spurred you on and kept you going for so long and ultimately going to make you go down as one of England's greatest ever batters. Yeah, I think for a long time I had, I always wanted to prove a point. And almost like the more I got put in a corner, the more I wanted to prove. And I think the last couple of years, like, I kind of feel like I don't have to have, I don't have to have to prove something anymore. Like, I can just, I've done, I can finish tomorrow and my record will be my record and what I've done. I've done. So now I can just do it for me. I can do it for my family. You can do it for my teammates. I don't have to prove anything anymore. How's it been, and this is for both of you, actually, this is like a transitional period. You're here in Ireland and you two are the grandmas of the tenons. You play as Alex. Sorry, senior players. As we say that time, he's got a hot water bottle wrapped around her waist for her back. How's it been playing with the younger girls? Is it like, oh God, we're old? Or is it like, actually, this is really exciting? Because of all these young girls coming through. I found it exciting, I think. I think when you took me and Kate out of it, well, I think I had like ten times more caps than anyone in that first game and you had like five taps more. Yeah. Which is pretty crazy, really, to think that. But I think watching the way that they've played and it's really exciting. I think, you know, you think of the names that aren't playing in this Ireland series and actually seeing the way the girls have gone about it. I think it's great to see and it kind of makes you feel like whenever we do leave the cap behind, it's going to be in a great place because, you know, these girls are coming in and playing the way that we know they can play like straight away. I think, from my point of view, like all of that, but it's seeing how the girls, like the enjoyment that they've got from doing well. And like, I really remembered what it was like getting my cap and how nervous I was and like, you don't know what your international career is going to look like. Me and Tommy have obviously been very lucky that we've managed to play for a lot of games. But like, what's Georgia Davis's story going to be? Like, she started yesterday and we were here for her. And I think that's when I knew I was going to captain and obviously Me and Tommy are both senior players in this group. You just want to create memories for these girls that they don't walk away from this series going, well, that's not quite what I thought it would be. Like, I want them to come away from it going, I want more of that. I want to keep striving and making sure that no one takes that cap away from me now. It's there forever to be fair. And you've taught a few girls how to split the G with the G. So, what a trip. No, I very much failed at that. So, they taught me, you know, keep me young. Okay, we're in Belfast before we let you go to it. Do you like Guinness, yes or no? No, I keep trying. Keep trying to like it, but I just don't. I'm sorry to all the Irish listeners. Gross, do you like Guinness? I do, but I've got to be in the mood. Okay, I don't like it either. I think it tastes like coins. Just a little caveat. I don't like any beer or cider, so that's true. Anyone from the west country is going to hate me too, so it's all good. I just don't like that kind of drink. Tommy loves a gin and tonic frame when it was together. Gin and tonic for getting the most centuries for England girls. Well, guys! He did it! Tommy, you are a bloody great cricketer, and thank you for joining us for 10 minutes. You're great. Go and rest your spine. Go and get that. Thanks. Thanks, Tom. I'll get there eventually. The most ODI centuries for an English woman. Well done. It's quite hard. It's the getter that I don't know how you were getting room-getter in there. Because she got loads of runs. She did. She's a getter. She's run-getter. 150. I forgot to mention to Tommy that the relief on her parents' face yesterday was like something that I'd never seen before as well. She's finally done it. Yeah. I imagine for the parents watching you go and become the best at what she does must be. Well, they've waited a while, haven't they? That's what I was trying to get out with that question. It felt like she had the opportunity to get that record a long time ago, and then it's been a bit stagnated since then, but obviously she's done it now. So it must be like you said, just such a big relief. So, you've got one ODI left? Yeah, we play again tomorrow. God, these games come in thick and fast. They are on it. Thick and fast. So probably today, by the time this podcast comes out, which is fine. Oh, it's time. Alarm. Alarm. Alarm. Alarm. Come on in. Do you have a chat on the podcast? I'm just getting to watch it. Just come and say hello. Hi. Don't you know what to say? We're just talking about Tommy Bow. I'm not being England women's lead in ODI. Wrong getter. It's a great follow-up. Yeah. You've clearly just come back from a visual. Yeah. How's the body? Actually fine. Oh, perfect. I don't know. I feel great for this time. How are you spending your day off? I'm not short. I might do a bit shopping. There you go. We were just talking about the games going thick and fast, but there's always time to shop in. Yes. There it is. Get your washing. I like your track suit. I forgot what we were saying. Yeah, me too. Yeah, the games are coming thick and fast. Yeah. You've come over to Bellfast. You and Hen had a little trip, a noble trip. The content on that account was unbelievable that day. Yeah, there is so much more content to come because we accidentally went on the night outside of day to celebrate you as a person, you as a captain, and you breaking records. And there's so many videos, so many photos. We had so much fun. We had a great time. Some people, the Nobles fans would be loving it. They all know we went out because there was so many tweets being like, "Oh, we're going to have fun in Bellfast." Obviously, we were. I've not asked you. How are you? I'm good. I'm good. I'm really good. I'm getting ill. I'm sick. I had a brilliant weekend. I'm so, so glad I came over. I'm so glad you came. I've messaged 10 this morning, just saying my week would not have been half as special without you two here because, obviously, to captain you country is pretty special. I've got my family here, but to have you two best mates in the entire world here watching as well was so good. Do you know what really stuck with me is the fact that nobody was surprised I was here? I do not like all the girls. They were like, "Oh, what are you doing here?" They were like, "How are you? Nice to see you. How was the flight?" Obviously, I was going to be here. Well, a few people asked me if you were working. I was like, "No, no. She's coming over as a friend. It was the best mate to support me." Which, actually, we've not had a great amount of time. Oh, you don't have a great amount of time to do that. You can't watch the Superchargers game this summer, but it's been so nice to actually have some support over here. Oh, I just watched you captain England. Can't miss it. Can't miss it. I'm sure we got upstairs. I think we should, you know. I know who we're with. Come on. Lauren, I can bag you. Let's do it. She's been on feel for two games, Lauren. Hi, Alex and Kate. Kate and Alex have been listening to your podcast now for probably a year and it's genuinely one of the best podcasts I've ever come across. I've listened in order because I'm not a psychopath. The bread knife doesn't need cleaning after every use and not another one has become part of my daily vocabulary. Not another one. Not another one. We didn't even talk about it so sorry. This is diverting back, right? We were in hospitality yesterday because we got tickets to a hospital. We had lunch. I went for a poo because post-lunch poo came back. Can you take a three for? Yeah. Well, it's a nippy picture. I feel like not another one or another one. Through some pretty dark moments recently for me, your friendship, banter and amazing insight into the game of cricket, especially the women's side of the game and watching it grow and grow season on season has been such comfort and I cannot thank you enough. Now to my question, sunglasses. I went to the Phoenix game against the superchargers in the 100 and crosses sunglasses are wild. I may be over-erging this a bit, but they legit aren't sunglasses. They're welding masks. What's wrong with a pair of Ray bands or something? There must be some benefit for wearing what essentially is a pair of ski goggles at long gone. They are ski goggles. They are, they're fashion now. That's the only reason you've got them is because it's fashionable. Yeah, and they don't look good. None of the big glasses I think look good. But you've got them. But do you remember those really? They were Adidas ones that everyone used to wear. They're real small ones that looked a bit like swimming goggles. They were fashionable for a while so it just, it'll come in and out. Yeah, it's just, it's literally just fashion. They're getting bigger as well. There they are. Adam Zamper tried to bring the little ones back to me. Yeah. And they do look cool. This one is called Captain Cross and Odd Balls. Greetings, Captain Cross and cheerleader Hartley. Yeah. For sure. You have a fair enough item. Yeah. Medium time listener, first time emailer. My wife and I listen to the podcast every week. We're also working through the back catalogue of the originals on Spotify. I'm never going to look at elephant's at Chester Zoo in the same way. We haven't done anything wild like that for a while. No, we haven't. We've been a bit tame, haven't we? We've got the golf day coming up. Oh, yes. We were lucky enough to meet Crossy and Wooster in June, but my wife Jules had the unfortunate moment of calling your podcast the Odd Balls podcast. She will kill me for saying this. To try and get a few brownie points back with her, it would be great if you could wish her a happy birthday for the 13th of September. She is my rock and I wouldn't be without her for the world. I think I must be her LBW. Talking of comms, here's a question for you. No names need to be mentioned, but have you ever been doing commentary with someone and just thought, what on earth are you talking about? How do you professionally get around that? Yeah, obviously, obviously, a lot of people say things for headlines and stuff and like you have to. Like I'll say something about someone, I know it's going to end up as a headline, but you've got to give your opinion. So the thing is, as a commentator, a summariser, pundit, as long as you have something to back up your ideas, so if I said, test cricket should be played with a blue ball because of X, Y and Z. That's my opinion. You could say, no, it should be played with a yellow ball, X, Y and Z. Yeah. Yeah, you're allowed to have opinions and you're allowed to disagree with people. The one thing that struggle with the commentary is bad breath. Oh, I was expecting that. Because you're so close to people, it's if people got bad breath. But back to the opinion thing, I think it would be really boring if you disagreed with someone, but because you're on air, agreed with them, like, yeah, the best discussions you hear are that they're discussions, like you don't have to be right or wrong in them, but having everyone's opinion, like how I see the game might be different to how you see the game. Me and Holly actually, on the pitch the other day, I was talking about, I needed to get Maddie back into the attack, so I was going to bring her on, but then it would mean that she was bowling into the wind and I wanted to see her to bowl into the wind. And Holly was like, see, as a spinning captain, a bull who, yeah, captain who bowls spin, I would look after my spinner in that moment, but because I'm a seamer, I was looking after the skimmer in that moment. Yeah. So we just see the game differently and that would, we'd have both made different decisions in that moment. Life would be so boring if we all got on agreed with everything. Yeah. But I've never, I can't remember a moment where I've gone, what on earth are you talking about? Oh, to be fair, no. There's been moments where I've gone, oh no, that's actually incorrect because I have the information based on being the women's team or whatever, but nothing. I can't remember anything that's happened where I've gone, God, what's happening. Yeah. But a very, very happy birthday, congratulations, another birthday, well done, another trip around the sun. Another trip around the world and oh, it's not the, I thought we were in October, it's still September, so still a birthday. So 13th of September, happy birthday from your favourite odd balls podcasters, a question about crowd sizes. This is from Ryan, hello Kate and Alex, I was at Rachel Hayhoe Flint trophy game between the Northern Diamonds and the Southern Bipers last Wednesday, which was a fantastic game decided on the last ball. However, there was barely anyone at the game, probably due to the fact it was a work and a school day. To ask a question, does the lack of a crowd impact the players on the pitch in any way or does it not even register cheers, Ryan? I think for a long time it didn't register with us, did it, because we were so used to not playing in a crowd, whereas when you get used to playing in front of a crowd and you know that it's a home crowd in there on your side, you love it. Yeah, I think it's more now for me, that a bigger crowd affects me more. In a good way. In a good way. Yeah. Than not having a, like not having a crowd doesn't affect me other than I sit there going "Oh, this is a bit disappointing", because you want people to watch women's cricket and follow the games and follow the teams. But that's something that I think I'm hoping that the tier one system next year does, that we get, obviously we're playing in the Vitality Blast now, that got announced last week. Hopefully the crowds become aligned a little bit like they have done in the 100, so if you support Lancashire Lightning, you support Lancashire Thunder. Yeah. Apart from the blaze, but don't even get me started. Yeah, you're annoyed about that. I'm really annoyed. It kept me up at night. I'm really, really annoyed at it, because I think it looked stupid. Crossy, congratulations, the series isn't over, the T20 series is to come. Yes. We can double in baby. We can double in, you enjoy that. If you win, or five games, I thought it was six, so what is it, two T20? Two T20s, Saturday, Sunday, they've cancelled one of them I think because the schedules had to be tight and a little bit. Ah, that makes sense. Right. But because of the weather, it's now 11 degrees here. You might be, have the best winning percentage of any captain ever for England, so good luck, because that would be great, wouldn't it? Oh, we can't. It's fun to see you. It would be so good. Never lost a game for England. Oh, not me, just playing two games and taking nine wickets for 38 runs. Oh, quick mask. Quick mask. Quick mask, good for me. It's probably wrong. No, it was right. 30 in the first game. Oh, yeah, well then. Easy. I can do that. Good luck for the rest of the trip. Thank you, by the way, for my card. Alex gave me a card this morning, and it's a report card. To my teacher. But my teacher has been scribbled out, and it says England's captain. So report card to my England captain. Teaching has been crossed out, and captaincy has gotten a plus. Listening has been crossed out, and bowling has gotten a plus. Understanding has been crossed out, and batting has gotten a plus, and helping has been crossed out, and boozing has gotten a plus, and I got a 10 out of 10. Thank you. Yeah, you did. Good luck for the rest of the trip. Love you, bye. Love you, bye. Oh. Email us on. I'll cast the BBC.co.uk. No balls podcast at BBC.co.uk, it's so good, they said it twice. Also please do email us, because we had two this week. And also, me and Alex are going on a little holiday at the end of this year, so we'll do one more after this Ireland series, and then we might do a little shenanigans one after the whole day. That'd be fun. Cross. I'm doing round of wickets. Oh, that's... Hold it! Hold it! Hold it! Hold it! I'm leaving the ball alone, Nick'sfield. Think it's the wobble ball, and it just nips back. It jags back. It's the nip backer. That is a beauty from Cape Cross, and absolute seed. That is a beautiful cross. Hello, I'm Greg James. He's Felix White. Hello. And that is England's greatest ever bowler, Jimmy Anderson. Hello, Felix. What can people expect to hear on tailenders? A loosely cricket-based chat, and we've probed Jimmy about not meeting Donalama. Jimmy, what's your favourite thing about tailenders? I like hanging out with you guys and listening to you talk about cricket and then putting you right when you get everything. Thanks for your support, has ever. We also have some very special guests every now and then. Stew up abroad, so they're running into bowl, and I'm going, oh, it's interesting to skip as bowl in the top end, and you're a bowl in this thing because, you know, you're only a drop-timey. So, I love it. That's tailenders. Listen now. On BBC Sounds. Go well. Go well. Go well. Go well. This episode is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Fiscally responsible, financial geniuses, monetary magicians. 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