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Jeff Poor Show - Wednesday 9-11-24
[music] From Bucks Pocket to the shores of Orange Beach, at all points in between, an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's The Jeff Porshow. I don't think I've done it this way. [music] Good morning, and welcome to The Jeff Porshow and if I'm talking about '06, '05. Good Wednesday morning to you. Thank you for listening. We do appreciate it. As always, text line 251. 3430106. That's how you get touched with me, your show host. And I do my best to relay to our audience whatever it is. It's on your mind and then I will respond to whatever it is that is on your mind. So feedback is appreciated, a comment, complete suggestion, so on and so forth. Well, give me a quick rundown here on the program. Rick Broobaker, former state senator, former congressional candidate in about a half hour. Joy Clark in that 10 o'clock hour. And then a majority leader, Stan Hagen, in the 11 o'clock hour will be with us. So please make sure you stick around for that. So it's... Well, right now it's 9/11 commemoration. How many of you out there listening think about 9/11? It doesn't seem like it was that long ago, but it was that long ago. And either you wonder how many people out there... I mean, to me it seems fresh on my mind, but it's funny how much the world has changed since September 11, 2001. 23 years ago, it was about 20... What are you doing when you were 23 years old? What did you say this? What were you doing when you were 22 years old? And there are 22-year-olds out there who weren't alive. And it's kind of amazing to think about, but just how much the world has changed. And so much of it has set us on the collision course or the trajectory we're on right now. With the size of government, the scope of government, how much government's involved in our lives. And we're talking about commemorating the deceased and what happened that day. But the response... Response and I really have a much more profound impact on Americans' daily lives. I mean, it's not just like waiting in line at the TSA at the airport. It's so much more than that. Because it gave government the federal government, at least, the opportunity to expand and get larger. It take on more of a role in your life. In some ways, through the better, but in a lot of ways, through the worse. But we could hit on that. Also, so I guess the debate is the big, big, big topic. It was a win for Kamala Harris. There's no question about it. Trump did not have his best night, but you know what? It's almost like the NFL preseason or spring training. It's irrelevant, I think, to the election in November. I don't think she did well. You know, she could have done a lot better if I were advising Vice President Harris. I wouldn't have laid back with some of the petty attacks. I mean, you've got to work them in and what she did, and she should get credit for this. She successfully baited Trump on a lot of different things. And he fell for it. I don't necessarily think that the Haitians eating dogs in Springfield, Ohio was a bad play. But some of the things about his rallies was kind of weird and talking about Orban, the Hungarian Prime Minister. I mean, some of that was unnecessary. It was kind of rambly at times. But it's going to have an asterisk next to it because the debate moderators were so bad. Had David Mer stayed out of this and just kind of let things go along. I still think the debate probably would have kind of transpired the way it did. Everything would have kind of fell in line. But she's always going to have this asterisk next to her double U because he kept getting involved. Fact checking Trump. And people talk about the candidates need to have discipline. Sometimes it's the moderators who need to be disciplined. And this was clearly lacking in the ABC presentation. But people don't, I mean, guys, to be honest, people don't think about that stuff. They don't know what's, you know, the generic consumer of the news. They may be willing to acknowledge that there is a left leaning bias. But it's all this. It's not so much the ideology as it is just the presentation, the style, the oversubstance, the demeanor of the candidates. She did not have a great night as it would be presented alone. But he, he didn't, he didn't play his cards like he played them against Biden. But what's kind of amazing to me, so Trump was on Fox News with Hannity and then this morning on Fox and Friends. He feels really good about it. He feels really good about his performance. He thinks he got some good lines in. He thinks he got some good blows in. And I don't know, I mean, I think probably a lot of his, you know, supporters do, but should he agree to a second debate? And Harris, people already want a second debate. I think he's got a rated in some. It's not about, this is, this is probably going to make James and Gene and the, the newly anointed fact checker. Giddy, but like, he's got to stop making it about himself and being triggered by which he does something personal and feeling the need to respond to a personal attack. He's always like this, we talked about Mo Brooks and he would rather win the debate trophy than the election. Well, Trump in some ways would rather respond to a personal attack than win the election. And sometimes he's really good at responding to a personal attack. But last night wasn't one of those times. All you need to know is this, it's not going to change the outcome of the election. Well, you talk about debates that have impacted a presidential election. I mean, obviously the Biden debacle in June is really a significant impact, but that's a historic, right? Had they ever had a presidential debate before the nominating conviction convictions? I mean, they did still do that. And this was a weird and sort of anomaly, but they would say, well, what about Kennedy Nixon? Well, the difference between Kennedy Nixon is 1960 and television was still kind of a new phenomenon. But you only had like three channels at best in some places. So everybody had to watch that debate. You have a trillion channels now. You have people just like doing things on TikTok or whatever. So you didn't capture as many eyeballs last night as they did back then. People will take away from this debate what they want. Trump had a lot of unforced errors. It's hard for the other thing about this is as a kind of desensitized news guy. I don't think any fear the purple state female. It came off really bad to you. He did you. There's something about him that you just did not like if you're the the wide mom hyper emotional. There's just something that didn't fall into place and he felt bad about the performance. He didn't like the performance or whatever. I would say this and it's interesting that Trump thinks he did so well. Because typically he's a good judge of what is good television. What is good TV? What is get to the point? Get in. Get your point across. Get out of there. Let her. Let her step on herself. Reality TV guy. Got to get to marketing and packaging typically. Maybe it's just him saying this because he's trying to establish the narrative. Last night after the debate on Hannity I think it was our best debate ever. Do you really think that? I know that that's what people think but you don't think more and more about it. Maybe he does believe that. But I don't think it was his best debate. The media are going to say whatever they're going to say and they're going to cheer lead to slay Queen to Kamala this. None of that matters. That right now is the law of diminishing returns. Jim Socky cheering on Kamala Harris is not a reasonable indicator. You know Nicole Wallace sneering at Donald Trump's performance. Not not a meaningful indicator. But as I said she gets to W but it has an asterisk next to it because the moderators got it her way. They got in Trump's way and they blew a lot of calls. And the calls were one sided. And I think it's just this institutional bias within the mainstream media. The world view the prism through which they view the world gets them in the way of things. Well we call the city manager. He said there were no credible reports of this. And it's like okay like well did you follow up from there? I mean did you look at police reports? I mean is that not credible? It's this deference to authority of the mainstream media. But the authority is what they get to pick. So just like the question about the 2020 election and well a number of judges said XYZ. But yeah but they ruled against Trump on technicalities. It's never this critical analysis. It's always just this deference to authority with the mainstream media. And people see right through it. And this is deference to authority when it seems to line up with the Democrat or liberal point of view. It's never that way when it's the other way around. Then we do this introspection and we have these discussions and we talk about what it might mean to the inner city minority and how they I mean you know see what I'm saying here. I mean there's a it's a favoritism. And people may not realize it. But that's always going to be the problem with the media. The problem with journalists I had one of my most well he's still my boss I guess technically. Tell me this it's like when kids go into journalism school it would change the world. It would be the next Woodward merge state. The view is social work and not just kind of reporting job. And that's what you have on display in debates for media. We'll be right back this is the Jeff Moore show and if I talk what oh six five. He said you don't have to call me mister mister. The whole world called me high. He said better can you make me more proud when you play the same. But in life that you in Jackson and I'll be dancing on a pony king. Let me drown town like a scalded. How would you tell that between your village and go to Jackson. You big talking man. 24 benefits after the hour on this Wednesday morning. We do appreciate you listening. Thank you very much. Thank you so much. And I'm going to say it's been a long time. I'm going to say it's been a long time. And I'm going to say it's been a long time. I'm going to say it's been a long time. And I'm going to say it's been a long time. I'm going to say it's been a long time. Give me credit. You're honest about who won. And a texture. I believe that a level is an inside job. Oh, here we go. I believe it was to expand big government and put more control in their hands. I believe Donald Trump and the Ohio triple team last night into debate. I don't think he did a great job, but he definitely didn't do a bad job. The Harris campaign's never going to go on Fox News. Let's see. Trump hate to say it. Kamala kicked his ass. This is why you practice. I disagree with that. I don't think she was. I don't think she was that great. I mean, just isolate her performance by itself. And you look at the points. I mean, she, she may be accumulated more points, but he was the problem with him. He was accumulating points, but then he was like having them deducted away. For the dumb things he was doing or he was being penalized by the moderators. Let's see. Tim, Jeff. I was very disappointed. It was very disappointing last night. Trump was off his game. It was almost like Trump was not feeling well. I think Kamala did the best she could do. I guess I kind of agree with that. He thinks he did well. I don't know what you were watching. Trump wiped the floor with her. Disagree with that. Rock and roll, doctor. I hate Trump, and I hate socialism too, but I hate Trump more. So I voted for Kamala. Stupidity and ignorance, breeding the spoils of humanity. And then here we go. Finally, an a textured immediate bias has always been there. They just don't hide it. Anyone, any more last night and just further proof, vendetta gets evil fascist. Trump is all that matters. They do not like Trump. And maybe that's it. I mean, they have an ideological, institutional, liberal bias. But there's something very off-putting to them about his personality or his character traits. You know, put aside his past indiscretions. There is just something about his presentation in each of them. Now, for whatever reason, before he got into politics, the mainstream media really embraced Donald Trump. And it's funny because how do you, you know, Joe Rogan, a clip going around, kind of on social media, is watching Donald Trump on the view had to be 15 years ago or something. And Barbara Walters is still a part of the mix there. It will be in Behar. And then they're like very cordial and they hug each other. And I don't know what that was all for a show at the time or what. But he was kind of the same guy. It's just all of a sudden, the Democrat power brokers turned him into this monster, this evil villain. I don't know. Like, almost like a villain super hero, Lex Luthor, E, Braggadocious thing that everybody detests. And that's sort of the product of the tail lagging the dog, guys. If he had never ran for president, he would still kind of be this media sensation. I believe we get to do a critical analysis of this. Look at, look at this. And if he had never ran for president as a Republican, he would still be a media darling. Two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six, oh, one more thing for you to break your tail or swift and dorsing. Uh, Kamala Harris, how many of you are like, Wow, I was going, I was going to vote for Trump, but this changes things, anybody out there, seriously, I don't wonder if that's a real thing. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] I think Trump looked a little tired, but, you know, I hear a lot of people wringing their hands about that debate. I didn't think it was, I mean, he didn't dominate her like he dominated Joe Biden, but I don't think he was awful. I don't think for either one of them, you see, I mean, she has a great advantage of being able to lie about anything and know that the media is never going to ask her a question about it, but she's not going to give them the opportunity. Like that exchange they had about assault rifles, and she's up there, your line, I never said we wanted to take any guns away from anybody. She's talked about banning and mandatory buybacks of assault rifles for years, but she knows that no media person is ever going to challenge her about that. So she obviously feels free to say anything, but I think it was, I mean, some of the stuff I've read, Republicans are acting like Trump totally dropped the ball, I don't think he did it all. I agree, I wonder how much this has a lasting impact, because I don't think, I don't think it's going to matter in the long grand scheme of things. I mean, it was a double U for Kamala Harris, is what I think, but did it really move the deal? I think about it, Senator, I think it has an asterisk next to it, because just to roll the moderators getting in there and kind of getting mixed up, that what could have been a true victory for her, you know, they tainted it some. You know, the Democrats have clearly flipped the script. I mean, Trump was the more dynamic character while Biden was on the tick. And now they're trying to present him as the old daughtering man, while they've got the young dynamic next generation candidate. And you combine that with the fact that I'm just astonished that she, the media, she treats him like dirt, she won't give press conferences. She won't take unscripted questions, she just ignores them. But yet, they're willing to let her talk about how pro-Israel she is. When she's been running around the country, talking to Palestinian groups and saying how the United States needs to pursue a more balanced policy at how worse like fundamental Islam are to be taken out of the American political, Islamic fundamentalist, are to be taken out of the American vocabulary. I mean, she is just a liar, a glib, mendacious liar. But she is allowed to say or do anything and never be questioned about it. In my next life, I want to come back as a Democrat politician. The media have such a deference to authority or to authority figures that they deem to be acceptable. So like the whole weird Springfield, Ohio, well, we call it the city manager and he said there's nothing to it. So the issue settled. I mean, that's never, what world is that satisfactory? There's no critical analysis, but when it's the other way around, I mean, they would call everybody within a hundred miles. I don't know. I just, that's, that's what you got to deal with. And the other thing I'd say, I think that Donald Trump actually thinks that he did, did a good job last night. I was kind of watching this or comments morning. Yeah. Like that, that, that's right. This was getting at like you, if you're advising Trump and you've got to tell him like, look, you can't, you can't do that again. Well, I thought we had the best debate we've ever had. No, not, not, not really. And then that's, that's a challenge when he comes to this campaign. Well, for anybody, if you've been in politics for any length of time, let's face it, this is his third go around. You know, people have been to the puppet show, they've seen the strings and the, the enthusiasm for Trump, even from his base, isn't what it was in 2016. And not that they don't still like him or are going to vote for him, they will. But he has got to understand that he's got to level up a little bit, if he wants to maintain any kind of momentum. And like when she started attacking him and he played into it by defending himself and using his time to defend himself instead of talk about her record, I mean, you know, it doesn't persuade and I, but what else is Trump going to say, has he ever said about anything, I wasn't perfect? I mean, it's not in him. No, I think you're right. Whatever he does is great because he did it. No, I think you're right, I, he's not a guy who's going to go self down or self questioned, but like in this circumstance, in this circumstance, if he does a second debate, the Harris people want a second debate. I don't know why you would, but I don't know why you would do a second debate, but I just think that's it. She was, what she did that was really, really good was she, she baited him a few times and he walked right into the trap. Um, I'm not exactly my point. Yeah. He's got to resist that. But I don't think he should make him look bad. Yeah, he doesn't understand how that makes him look bad. He thinks that responding to these, these attacks, he would say that makes him look like a fighter, makes him look tough when he comes back swinging, but she, she's kind of roped opening, right? Like, yeah, go, go ahead and swing away. Um, and then I'll just stand up here and make my weird facial expressions. Well, and also in every minute he spends talking about himself, he's not pointing out to people that look, they're asking you about, devote for a woman who gained a nomination, if not by illegal means, under the Democrat rules, by at least, illicit, I don't know what the right way is, but, uh, I mean, I haven't seen a few Democrats have actually said out loud that, you know, there's nothing in our rules that allows us just to annoy the candidate. We've never gotten a single primary vote. And, uh, or just to talk about her record as, you know, people say Senator Warren is liberal, but she wasn't the most liberal Senator when Kamala Harris was there. I mean, we're not talking about, she started getting this up at the DNC, and I don't know who their strategy is, but that person is brilliant and ought to get a raise. When she got out there on the DNC stage and started talking about how she loved America and wrapping herself in the flag, you know, and when, you know, her record is totally the opposite, but that was the beginning of the reinvention of Kamala Harris. And she doesn't, and people are falling for it. She's talking about Israel, like she's the most pro Israeli American politician that has ever been when, in fact, she's a dog of terrorist sympathizing. If you look at her own statements, I mean, she has talked about taking guns away from people. You know, ever since she got into public life, the U.S. and for her to say last night that she's not in favor of taking any guns away from anybody, all that stuff is live, but she is able to sell it. And Trump has got to do better than just sort of recreate what he did in 2016. It's not going to help him here. Let me say this. I don't, I don't know that it necessarily, I don't think this changes the election. I think, I think we're talking about it for the next couple of days, but a historically white senator, I mean, you could say maybe a handful of times and I'm not going to count the Biden Trump debate last June, but I mean, it's just like, it's before he's the nominee. And I don't know. There's something very astroturphy about it that, you know, the timing and the format and everything, but, but, but let's look back in history and there's been some zingers, obviously Reagan, there was like a weird Al Gore George W Bush thing, you could go and we could talk about that. I mean, it's going to be back to Kennedy Nixon in 1960 and that's back when everybody had to watch the base because there was nothing else on your television. So well, that's when people actually cared about policy. What does this, what lasting impact does this have? I'm very skeptical that this matters. Well, I look, I agree with that, but in the broader sense, I wish Trump would take a page out of Reagan's book because she's coming across as the more energetic, more positive, more optimistic candidate. And Trump is coming, coming across not just in this event, but if you listen to his stump speeches, it's mostly negative in tone. And while that plays great to his base, it doesn't persuade other people that aren't in his base to vote for it. People will, people respond to optimism, to positive leadership. And I wish he could be a little more Reagan asked and spend a little less time talking about himself and a little more time talking about the country. Well, that's, that's just a struggle because, and it was pretty clear, like when she works in a quip about his rallies, I mean, that is, she started over to play during him to swing away at it. And what does he do? He swings away at it. That's like, if you're advising somebody, debating Trump, and I don't know why the Republicans in 16 didn't do more of this, make it about him, which is very off-putting to a lot of people and you get him in a trap. He's got to, I mean, this will be the last time he runs for president. We may have seen the last presidential debate with Donald Trump in it last night. Who knows? But if not, that's, that's, that's, I don't know who's, who's around to telling this either, but that that's, that's what they've mastered, the art of getting him to respond to stuff personally. Well, and he's going to talk about himself if you give him any opening to do it. And I think that the Democrats had enough sense to know that, that's not the message that's just going to persuade people that aren't already going to vote for it. And it is, it's, look, this is a, that debate was a sad commentary on American politics. The fact that you've got one candidate up there that didn't go through any of the primary process that won't talk to the media and yet the media is totally in the bucket for it. I mean, the more she ignores the press, the better they seem to like her. She's not even giving, she's not even taking, putting herself in a position on the campaign trail where some regular person can shout a question at her, she doesn't want to answer. And, I mean, Kamala Harris victory would be, I mean, it would be a disaster for this country. I mean, if, if she's serious about the economic policies she was talking about before she got the nomination to be their candidate for president, I mean, people think Obamacare was the beginning of socialism. You just wait to see what a Harris administration does. I mean, she is willing to spend this country. I mean, just run it into the ground economically just so she can let in more third world illegal immigrants. And, you know, she's talked about abolishing ICE, defunding the police. You know, she cannot be president of the United States. Well, tell me this, I don't, I mean, my, this may be a bit naive on my behalf, but I mean, no matter who wins the presidency, we're going to wake up. We're going to go to work. We're going to try to live our lives. And it may matter on the margins, but I, you know, I think that's a real, real dangerous thing. I don't dangerous is the right word precarious thing to do to say, you know, our, our destiny is controlled by who's president of the United States. It's all to me. It's always like we've got to keep that in perspective. Yes, Trump will be best for the country, but really the lion's share of the work of your personal outcome has got to be done by the individual. And that maybe is where conservatives get a little maybe, I mean, liberals do this and they get wrapped up emotionally in politics. I think conservatives need to at least keep it in perspective. Well, well, okay, but is that there's a person who ran a business for a long, long time. If you don't think he's president, affects people's ability to make a living. I'm going to talk to somebody who's in their twenties right now, who has a job who, you know, can't even buy a house because of the tactic between taxes and inflation that, you know, the idea of them ever actually owning their own home seems an almost ludicrous idea to them. I mean, it has, you've got a government that is convinced that they know what to do with your money better than you know what to do with your money and they're perfectly willing to take it from it. For some of these new auditors to generate prosperity, they did it to find ways to take more money from Americans who work and frankly, give it to people that aren't even here legally. Right. I mean, there's, there's a lot of prioritizing. There's lots of reasons to take issue with what's going on to federal government. But like, I would still argue that, and then I guess it may be naive on my behalf, maybe some of this is a little manufactured hysteria. I don't know. I guess he's talking about packing the Supreme Court. He's talking about destroying checks and balances. But they can't even constitute the government. Senator, they can't even keep the government open half the time. I mean, to expect that they're going to get these. The biggest thing in at least in the last 20 years, I think, was probably the passage of Obamacare that really did impact our lives. There's a lot of like sort of like talk about what they can and can't do. And I just, I don't know that they have the votes in Congress with the way our politics are to do something like pat the Supreme Court, give statehood to DC and Puerto Rico. If it's really hitting off the deep end, maybe I'm eating crow here a couple of years, but they prove that they can let millions and millions and millions of people that are not citizens into this country. And, and eventually they're going to get those. But anybody who doesn't think that the long term plan, once these illegal immigrants have been here a generation or two is to find, you know, their children will certainly be allowed to vote. The ones that are born here, they're trying to change the political equation in states like Texas and all over the Southwest. And, you know, if that will permanently change the American politics. Senator, we got to leave it there. We will pick it up again later. But thanks for making time for us. And Jeff, I don't pick your name. No problem. Thanks for being on. We're going to break here. We'll be right back. This is the Jeff for show on the left hip talk about 065. Live in on the road. My friend. Welcome back to the Jeff for showed up and talk about 065. They just stick it around on this Wednesday morning 2513430106. Thank you for listening. Coming up in the next hour. Joy Clark from do's talk 93.1 in my gumbry. So please make sure you stay tuned for that. Uh, and the texture, Jeff, I watched the entire debate. If you call it debate, what struck me the most was a bicycle to the moderate is pretty obviously wanted to check up Trump. He took the bail a couple of things. But I don't think Trump lost the bait. I think he wanted to bait if you have a winner and lose her. But in reality, Kamala Harris comes off as a nasty person and he goes on to talk about her in as compared to glory and the flip flopping. She did not have a good response guys to the flip flop allegation at all. I thought and if if you believe that these these surveys out there, these polls that say that Americans care most about the economy. Her answer on the economy is very, very lackluster. And very first question. So if that is the issue, the economy is the issue. She's got some work to do. These gimmicks aren't really going to put people at ease. I think at all. Well, very back. This is Jeff for sure. Let's have a talk. One oh, six five. Nothing to do. It's good to see you. I must go. I know I'm a good friend. Anyway, my eyes are not. From Butts pocket to the shores of Orange Beach at all points in between an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff poor show. I don't think I'm in this way. Welcome back to the Jeff poor show enough and talk. One oh, six, five out number two begins right now coming up in about 30 minutes from now. Joey Clark, do talk 93 one in Montgomery. So make sure you stay tuned for that. Text slide 2513430106 text slide brought to you by project 2025, which apparently is this? I'd be in facetious is project 2025 really what you think it is Democrats are what are if you do believe that it is what you think it is. Why are you so dumb? It's incredible that you could take a random think taken Washington, DC. I'll be inherited. They're an important player in the nonprofit world in Washington, DC. Take a product their work product and just automatically assume that it's it's coming from the wind's blowing from the same direction. So it must be Trump like as if Trump had the time or the discipline or the ability to sit down and write a 12 point plan about what he's going to do as president. Do you think that is going to win you the election? And maybe they think that their supporters are that dumb or that the American people are that dumb. But guys, like Shamari figures, who's not a dumb person I would assume is playing a same game. And it's project 2025 and a song on our democracy. And you're just lying about it because you're part of the problem. It's the same. How many people really believe it? And here's where a lot of people I talked to get in trouble. They really do believe that people will believe it like it's it's just that there's this low regard for repop or not Republicans, but for voters like, well, you know, they'll believe whatever you told to believe. 2513430106. Can the does it matter that Kamala Harris is saying two different things? So the flip flops. It probably does matter actually in Pennsylvania. Let's hope that like they're playing this nonstop. The CNN fact checker is a joke, Daniel Dale. So there's like one one foot flight bike or what? What the lie or misleading statement from Kamala Harris and 20 from Trump. Did they not know how that makes them look or do they even care? They don't care. Anyway, 2513430106. Let's get through some of these text. The real Sam, my wife became a Kansas City fan and all of a sudden she says she's a voting for Harris. Maybe it does matter what Taylor Swift is doing. I just learned a new word been dacious. I had to look it up. Look good for you. But he sends me an Instagram link that I can't check. Paul, I think it was interesting how drugs didn't post a whole one poll after the debate. You still read judge Paul. Dave, Jeff, can you compare the alleged pre-election silence at Kamala Harris versus the alleged pre-election silence at Kivie? I think you can. I'll say this because it's anything about Joe Biden. I mean, Kivie wasn't being protected by the media number one. Number two, Kivie. She had a, I mean, she she won her primary by a significant margin. She goes into a crowded field two times twice in a sketch without a runoff. I said this all along about Kivie. I said this early in 2021 all the way through 2022. I said it on this show. As a matter of fact, if you give her the GOP nomination without a runoff, expect more of the same. All of the policy that Kivie had in that first full term with the COVID lockdowns, the mask mandates, the sneering statements about those who don't take the vaccine and unaccountability in the eyes of the media. All the things that you don't like about Governor Ivy. Governor Ivy does some good things. She's got some bad things. Okay. And all the things you didn't like about her. If you didn't get out and voted, at least make her have to play for it, work for it or whatever. Then why wouldn't you expect more of the same? And that includes not doing media interviews. What was the last time you saw Governor Ivy sit down for an interview? She doesn't once a year on Capitol Journal with state run media Todd Stacy. That's it. That's it. And there's no reason why she should do any others because she wins her elections. What what other takeaway is there? Dave, then that she has a mandate of more of the same, more John Cooper, more prison mismanagement, more whatever the people they voted. You heard the people saying more Kiv please. It wasn't even close. Primary, our general election. And that's all we have to go off of. We get the government we deserve. Okay. So it's a little different Kamala Harris. The country's evenly split 50 50. The media are certainly in the tank for Harris. Some would say that probably to take for Ivy, I dispute that. Kiv has a hostile press from the right and from the left. She brings it on herself. Just look at the way this veteran's situation was handled. I don't like the way it was handled to be honest. I think they could have come to some kind of resolution. The fact that you had to enter agents to agencies squabbling and she didn't try to work something out. Instead, she just kind of said, well, I'm the governor. Boom. I mean, that's her purview. That's her prerogative. But I don't like the way that was handled at all. I don't like the way the highway or the Department of Transportation is ran. You have a guy who's certainly a loose cannon documented to be a loose cannon running that agent. One of the most important agencies in Montgomery, if not the most important has the most direct impact of any state government agency, probably must be able to say, well, moment at the Department of Education, Eric Mackie, but everybody has to travel around the state at some point on a state highway, a state maintained highway. We don't have public transit anyway. I mean, we just it's roads and he doesn't do a great job. He uses it as a political tool. Yet he's one to favor the governor. And you know, what it is, it's just because he does what she says. She's the boss and she gets away with it because the people of the state overwhelmingly elected her twice. I'm sorry to go off on a tangent there on a texture. Jeff, they were both right on the issue of foreign leaders laughing at us while we are shaking in fear that one of those two will be president extremely scary. I don't think foreign leaders guys, y'all over are I think everybody kind of overestimates the the world. A lot of these countries are supposed to be scared of a very low living standards. Their people are, you know, malnutrition, alcoholism in Russia, China, people still living in caves, communist dictatorships. Let's not Brazil always in kind of some kind of political peril. United States of America, regardless of his president, still the best country to live in on a texture Trump should have come back with 25 k to couples wanted to buy a house. They should have said FHA requires 20% down. Where does the rest come from? Even if they bought they couldn't afford the mortgage payments or the taxes are interested 8%, but he didn't. Then attacked the six K for the parents to buy crib strollers. On the other hand, she is supporting abortions. They won't be any babies. Anyway, the six K won't be needed. Michael, I got to agree with Senator Brubaker on if Harris is elected to show calls irreparable damage, I wish I could have a Polly Annish be like you, but Sean's of the most people want what's best for America, but that's a the verse of you shall know them by their fruits and Democrats fruits. Let you know that they are godless government workers who want a Marxist rule. They want a Marxist rule, but do they get there? I don't think they can get to Marxism in America. It's just we got to keep our emotions and check sometimes guys. Maybe I be sensitized to it. I've been doing this ain't a long time. We said the same thing when Obama was elected and in the country just sort of went along and plotted along the left said the same thing when Trump was elected. Oh my gosh. Donald Trump. We need to move to Canada. I mean, is it really that bad? They said to say they were Reagan. They said the same thing with Bush. They said the same thing with Clinton. I think it's important policy wise. It will impact your life, but it's not going to be the end of your life, the end of capitalism. Yeah, sure. If you're a business owner, you may have to pay more like thinking about this with the IRS pay your taxes. Don't cheat on your taxes. Do what's right. Render the Caesar. What's Caesar's right? I just pay your taxes. Take the appropriate deductions. Take the appropriate benefits. And they text her. They think the flip flops don't matter. But they do. They like to say, well, this is where I am now. That's the new catch phrase for flipping. Yes. Hey, John Kerry didn't get away with it. Oh, Jean heritage was involved in the Supreme Court judges. Why would we not think that they want to influence the president heritage? Was it was the federal society gene that made up those lists? Not not heritage. Jean, I know it's all the same to you. And Jean, they prepared is absolutely does want to influence the president. But the the insinuation here is that they just want to influence it. The insinuation from the media is that they are the the Trump campaign. And that is absolutely insane. That is a leap. Some of us wish Trump would be more in the mold of heritage, but Trump, you know, heritage is a is the Reagan think tank. Now they've kind of gotten a little out of sorts by dabbling in politics by creating their own 501c three or whatever. It's a political action campaign, but historically guys, and he goes back all the way to Reagan. I mean, they were the Reagan conservatism sort of think tank in town. You had other think tanks, AI, more neo con, foreign policy, Cato, which was more libertarian and heritage was just your your Reagan think tank. Totally different from Trumpism. We'll be right back. This is a jet war show and if it talk what I was six times. And on the old town square under the barbershop, they said me up in the chair. The old school was our repair. Here we got the rebel flags, blind and bug wise of beer. Letting snow in the middle of June. Welcome back to the jet pour show that from talk one oh six five two five one three four three zero one zero six making our way through these techs money. Did they have that number that that city manager's number on speed dial? I'll tell you what my experience here in Alabama. These city officials are very, very hesitant to to weigh in on any of this influx of my grants, refugees, illegal immigrants, whatever you want to call them legal immigrants. They're very hesitant, especially in silicon, or the mayor's outright lying about the legality, or what he knows, or who told him what went and where in Athens, you have a city councilman who's allegedly benefiting by leasing or renting his property. And I went, I mean, like the city guy, the city officials are aren't really sounding the alarm here. Money, I don't, this is deference to the authority figure that they determined to be acceptable. And not, you know, 911 calls or police reports or anything else is showing up out there with regards to these allegations that these Haitians are eating people's pets and our ducks are geese from the city park. Terry sent me a screenshot of out who used to eat cats. And a texture, the truth is South Baltimore County is overrun with the illegals. I'll say this about South Baltimore County. Yeah, you do sense of presence. There guys, it's it's not. There's other places that are far, far, far, far worse. Overruns probably a bit of an exaggeration for South Baltimore County. When I was in DC for a time, I lived in Fairfax County, right outside of Falls Church. I mean, it's a different country. Go spend time in like South Texas or Miami. And I get it like, you know, it's a it's a little startling to hear foreign languages at like Walmart or places you grew up. But you guys are fully in the beaches. You're not a not being overrun. That's like, but I'll say this, like you better be the the country's got to be on the balls of the their feet here because if not, I mean, it could be overrun. We see a trend here, right? King of all-in-day textures. I'll have a vote for what they thought was their grandma. They didn't live beyond the surface. And now I have you say, and I'm not your grandma. Well, that's that's just it, right? As an electorate, and this is always going to be an issue, King. We judge the book by its cover. And I think given the past few governors and there's just sort of this a sleazy politician element that people reject. I mean, that's what that's what people wanted. Just a change. But there's no bigger institutional estate government, institutional as to K. Ivy is practically spent her entire life in state government or professional life. I think she what, um, cabbed into Auburn briefly in California, then back into just kind of a fixture and Montgomery into Montgomery scene for 50 years. And in different roles, politically policy. And she's up. She's gone through phases of K. Ivy. It's, um, if you really know her, what, whoever writes the definitive biography of Governor Ivy, it's going to be fascinating. All the different personas she has taken on throughout her political career. And what most people will remember her for is like this sort of late stage of her career as governor. We'll be right back. This is a jet four show that could talk one of six, five. Nobody looking back again. Hello, Kansas. We feel fun. Let me thank you for your time. You work for the area for living. Just to send it on down the line. Hello, Mr. Chicken cold miner. Let me thank you. Welcome back to the jet pour showed up and talk with those six five. They just sticking around on this Wednesday morning. Text line 2513430106. Keep them coming. We do appreciate the feedback about an hour from now. We'll talk to house majority leader Scott Stanagan will be with us. So please make sure you stay right where you are joining us now though. We do this about this time every Wednesday. A good friend from news talk 93 one news and views airs in Montgomery to Montgomery Market. Joey Clark. Joey. Good morning. How are you? I'm all right. How are you doing this morning? Yeah, usual. We're we're we're in another presidential election cycle if you haven't noticed. Yeah. Yeah. Especially after last night, enough to make a cat laugh with the cats. We'll start with that. And we have this we were told by just by sheer deference to authority that that's not really a thing. I don't know if it's a thing or not, but I must say this. I think at least half the country believes these Haitian migrants are eating people's pets. Oh, yeah. And I mean, there's definitely a lot of people that showed up at the city council and who made phone calls to the police and I was watching some YouTube journalists went there on the ground and some of the migrants are denying it. I suspect there's some truth to it though. I guess we won't believe it. I mean, a lot of these folks like believe the corporate media and official authority so much. They wouldn't believe they brought you this gay unless they caught him in the back or during the act. Like it's just like whatever. Um, I think you're right though that Trump stuff I might take away from last night is I wish Trump had thrown the podium at David here. Like, some reason I just walked away from watching that last night angry at how much it was already baked into the cake what they were going to do. Yeah, I don't know why people expected to get a tapper bash the presentation because no one expected that with Joe Biden, no one expected the two of them to get out of the way like they did in that debate. It'll let Biden sort of, you know, hang himself, if you will. Um, so we shouldn't have we probably is that was probably an oversight. I mean, I didn't really talk about it much. I didn't even give it that much thought it was always will Trump be disciplined will Trump not fall for the, the, you know, the bait or will he and he he wasn't disciplined, but for different reasons, just kind of like she knew it. She knew what she was doing by going after his rallies. Right. Um, you know, things like that were unforced errors, but I tell you what, no, back to the, uh, back to the Haitian stuff. I just think that like the, the, what, what the tell is here to me, they don't have the, the media, the Democrats don't have a very good poker face. They're hysterical whenever this accusation is brought up because they know politically it is a loser for them and they're doing everything they can to try to debunk it. I mean, I think done right. I don't know what the right way is, but Republicans hit pay their with this. Oh, yeah. And I mean, the, the memes and the all the AI images of Trump saving the cats and the cats working that escape. I mean, everything's a mean now. Uh, so I, I would want to know like, can you give me the hardest proof ever that was actually happening? But I take people that show up at the city council meeting and at least in a somewhat sober way, say, you don't got to get out here. But there's one guy saying, you know, they're taking ducks out of the ponds. Um, so I, you know, we'll see, but I think you're right. It is a pretty awful thing. Uh, you sit there and are arguing over whether or not migrants have actually eaten people's pets. It's an amazing thing to say, but what it allows is people to go, well, maybe it isn't even that extreme, but did you see what happened in Aurora, Colorado? Just see what's happened in apartment complex in Chicago and you can, you can see how Springfield itself in Ohio has been overwhelmed in terms of their medical resources, educational resources and how many other little towns is that happening to across the country? Has it been reported? I think that's where you take it. Well, and we're not one to base. I'm going to change this. Okay. People are concerned about the this, this unbetter immigration going on in America. And regardless of what they do, what the media say, what happens in debates, the perception is Donald Trump is better than the Democrats, whoever they put up by NAR Harris on this issue. And I just, I think we're, I don't know what they could do to change that if they're trying to change that if it even matters. I mean, I don't think people are buying into this thing that would stop our bipartisan bill so we could have a campaign issue. I don't think people believe you personally. So all of that to say this, like that's still, that's still his issue. He still is going to win the day if immigration is the biggest deal. Now they say the economy is and Joe, I don't know. Like, you know, you got mad at David Mirror, but Harris's answer on the economy was total weak sauce. Oh, it was awful. I thought Trump was pretty strong on the economy and I think we'll remain. So I think the overall debate was a bit of a wash where I think Harris didn't fall flat on her face and that's to her credit. She came very prepared and scripted. But I think she would answer the question she wanted to answer. She didn't actually answer the question. And I wanted a follow-up essentially of like, hey, can you actually answer that. But you know, you've already said if the game plan seemed to be, let's say these things that we know is going to get Trump upset and let him get upset. But I almost thought some of the best points in the night was when Trump said I took a bullet to the head because the stuff y'all say. I'm kind of surprised they haven't leaned into that more. And it's the stuff that upsets me about say something like if David Mirror is more the framing of questions about really big issues, the subtle stuff. It's things like when we're going to discuss the Ukraine-Russian war, let's frame it in a question of do you want Ukraine to win? When the whole, I think, best sophisticated critique is what the heck do you mean by winning? What does that actually look like? What are the actual types of ramifications? And they turn into this moral melodrama. You just want Ukraine to lose. And that's the sort of stuff that is driving me up a wall. And I was saying yesterday that innocent VC is not the problem. CNN is dying of the problem. It is these legacy networks that have this sheen to them. This professional look to them that I think are the worst propagandists playing the game in America right now. Yeah, they're dining off their legacy past, right? The York Times and Washington Post, the broadcast networks. They're not. I mean, ABC News, we're not an MSNBC or Fox. We're somewhere in between. But I mean, in reality, that's not true. And they have this long standing legacy of Peter Jennings. And you go through the different anchors over the years, but like they're, they're just, it's like an institutional thing. And I don't know if it's the dogs, tell us wagging or if the tell is wagging the dog. But they said in a place probably Manhattan somewhere and they're in that sort of bubble, which doesn't seem like a bubble cause it's, you know, New York City is so massive. But there's a, I mean, it's a group thing thing and they think, well, right of center or left of center, that's where they are when compared to the entirety of the country, they're way outside the center. And they have the skewed perception of what the what's really going on in America. They mean, they live in New York City. And to them, the like immigration is, you know, well, that's just, they can just go in that part of town and we, you know, we can all coexist. But like small town America that's done things a certain way for 150 years. And you insert these new elements culturally into it. Like people get upset about that. And these demographic shifts and things going on. Like rapid change makes the electorate nervous. And that creates these populist uprisings. And I just don't think that the media even going back to 2016, Joey, have a full grasp what this really means. What's really going on here? Amen. I would say, you know, the recent kerfuffle over Tucker Carlson happened that his story in Darryl Cooper, Ron. I saw tears Morgan had on the premier and even Darryl Cooper says yet this guy is like the premier British historian, Lord Andrew Roberts. But even Roberts did this thing of like, I don't even know who this guy is. Jeff, who is this Darryl Cooper? Nobody knows who he is. He's not part of the, you know, esteemed club. And the folks, whether it's in history or the news and politics, or a lot of other academic subjects or other fields, there is a establishment that tries to play the same old tricks. I think we would be much better off if they realize, okay, the world has changed. Let's actually engage with people and get to know them and not be in that self-righteous bubble. That is, I think, fueling not just populism, but I think it is fueling a huge shift in globally that is going to leave a lot of Americans every day, Americans on the margins hold in the back. You know, referencing say, BRICS is now bigger than the G7 and nations that should be our allies are now teaming up more with say China and Russia, like say, India. It's a trend that I'm worried these folks in that bubble just can't see. Every time they try their tricks and try to hold on to their power, we're sinking further and further like we're in a quick second. And I think it's bad for everybody and I wish people would engage outside of those bubbles. But here we are. Yeah, and it's just navigating it and understanding it. And I don't think a lot of the public really has the time or patience to try to navigate or understand. You know what I'm saying? Like, and that's always the concern for Republicans are right wingers. It's like, oh my gosh, the media totally got to lose this for us. But we as conservatives watch this stuff and think that it's maybe as meaningful as it was. And we talk about the meaningful presidential debates in history and then the TV era. Probably Lincoln Douglas is a big one, but let's put that with his side and just look at like, what is a debate really ever changed the outcome of an election and put the Biden one aside because I mean, that was out. That was even before the candidates were nominated. But the one everyone talks about Kennedy Nixon. Well, when Kitty and Nixon debated on TV, I mean, it was the infancy of TV and TV and politics, but you only had like three channels to watch and everybody had to watch it last night. I did there. I see this, but I didn't think a very small fraction of the American public was even aware there was a debate last night. They may have been more aware of Taylor Swift's endorsement than they were of the debate. It's just it's a different time these debates are not as meaningful as they once were. Well, thank God, because I think it is a dying medium. I think the demographic that watches ABC, the young news programs or even cable news is getting older. I think it's hidden around 70 now is the average age of somebody watching. And, you know, I'm not saying all dogs need to learn new tricks. That's what you're going to watch and like, I'm not going to change it. You got to do that yourself. But, you know, I'm trying not to turn into a psychology like I'm sitting on the couch talking to Dr. Jeff Moore here, but I'm wondering like, why am I so angry? And I think it's these shifts in context that just drive me up a wall. For instance, I before the debate, I watched an hour and a half, two hour long discussion with Tucker Carlson, David Cromwell, and saw me in R.K. Jr. And I listened to that conversation and go, this is awful. This is engaging and have a lot of hope for the future. It's not people that all see eye to eye on everything. And I'm like, okay, I can create about this nation now. And then I go watch the debate. I'm like, okay, this is like, what is this crap? This is not real people have in conversation. This is, it seems like a prepackage corporate product for prime time TV. And thank God, I think you're right. The days of everybody watching the big three and 30 million people watching 60 minutes, they're over. And it's just that the legacy folks still have a firm grip on the situation. Yeah, like the highest rated television event, the Super Bowl, isn't even what it used to be. Because I mean, there's other things to do. There's other things there. It's not just that there are a million different channels or cable news. There's like a trillion videos or Tiktok or Instagram or YouTube or whatever. People just that don't care about that stuff are going to go do something else. Right. So you'll still grow big audiences and advertisers have to get audiences where they can, but such a different culture now. And to anticipate that people really were tuned in last night. I mean, it would take what I said, the bar is so low in these debates, it takes a complete physical breakdown for something to change a, the, the way the presidential election is going. And, I mean, Biden showed us that, but there was no expectation, no reason to believe that Donald Trump or Kamala Harris was going to like collapse on stage or have some kind of problem. And that would be the disqualifying event. I mean, it was just whatever whoever was watching it, their own biases would dictate what they thought of the debate. And then that's just, it just doesn't matter. If Harris gets a bump, it's marginal at best. Well, and I guess we have one more of these if they don't agree to another presidential, what JD bans and Ted balls have to go. And I suspect I'll get even less viewership and not matter as much. And yeah, I mean, I've been saying for months now, a lot of these are just political or shat testing, but that's you see what it says more about you than necessarily what's going on. Well, I think this that the reason you do them though is it does show that you have a, you're not a coward. You're the courage of your convictions. You have the courage to stand up there and go through the motions. You're not just, you know, some kind of hot house flower that will wilt at the moment that you're putting under any kind of scrutiny. But the actual, I mean, it's just all you got to really do is take the field almost. And that's good enough. It doesn't, it doesn't make or break a campaign anymore. Yeah, no, and I think you're right. I think it is about presentation and showing you have the courage of your conviction and getting out there. It's just, it seems again, not as real as it should be in my humble opinion. And again, it's also, it's a wash. Just looking at the fallout this morning, like the news cycle beginning this morning. Everybody's done their spinning and I don't think the middle of the road voters move that much either way based office. No, I don't think so either. Hey, Joey, folks want to find you online? How can they do so? At the Joey Clark on Twitter X or a Joey Clark live on YouTube. Joey Clark leads you gentlemen. Joey, thanks for making time. Appreciate it. All right, we gotta get a break here. We'll be right back. This is the Jeff Force show that the car one of six five knowing was a lonesome whistle blowing and the young man. Welcome back to the Jeff Force show. If I'm talking one of six five, two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six. Thanks for staying with us on this Wednesday morning. Scott Stagen, the house majority leader will be with us in the next hour. Stick around for that. Yeah, I'm a state house majority leader. I should say, Terry, Jeff, Alabama officials have always listened to what authority the dollar buddy talks, constituents walk. I don't, I don't, that's not necessarily true. Um, they're just, I'm going to say this about Alabama. Don't take offense, but I mean, let's be honest, the reason George Wallace was so very popular was it because of some sort of economic incentive. Okay. I mean, it's just populist of that era, populism of that era. And he has, you know, obviously tried to, he tried to apologize for it late in his political career in the 1980s, but I mean, it's not always been this way. I mean, it's always, there's always been an element of big muleism and big, big ag planters and the big mules, but it's not necessarily true to say that it's the dollar. Uh, there's some cultural elements to it. And a texture, just somebody's looking to fare up, hope, holiday and express, I visited a lobby all to the morning hours. I see numerous people in the lobby that are medieval Eastern origin. Speaking of the language, it's really not looking like the people to be visiting Pharaoh. Plus the complex is experience and upgrade in the back area. And it's not moving along. Cryptic, uh, I, I, I think that's a little, a little bit of a. The texture I hate to be mean, but I just, I, I maybe, maybe, maybe take a step back and we'll see if it matters. I don't think people are moving into the holidays in express and fair hope, uh, looking to take over or do something. Uh, see me, Carl. What amazes me as a so called conservatives over self all of that have no problem hiring non English speakers and having no problem with the lack of clear communication or construction sites just to get cheap labor. We'll be right back soon as the Jeff Porte show it up and talk when I was six, five from Bucks pocket to the shores of Orange Beach at all points in between an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Porte show. I don't think this way. Welcome back to the Jeff Porte showed up and talk about a six, five hour number three begins right now. Two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six. That's the text line. Uh, the word Bates is the, um, the chosen word of our astronaut turf media this morning. Uh, and they can't, it's, it's, uh, it's fascinating to watch the how the media will go with whatever the talking points that are sent out. It's, it's, it's just intellectual laziness or this desire to please. Or is it this? I mean, there's a lot of power at stake here. These media companies are owned by these corporate rations that have other business interest or diverse, uh, organizations and they, they deep down believe that the country is ran by a liberal leaning democratic party deep state. They don't want to fight it. They don't care. They just want to deliver the maximum profit, the maximum return to their shareholders. I don't know. I don't get it, but this willingness to like get on board, whatever these sent out talking points are. And here, the way they repeat with like pinpoint accuracy, what was sent to them and you see it up and down the line there, different channels, different stations, different cities, different markets, and they all use the same word. And it was weird today. It's baked. It's, it's, it's always some buzzword or phrase. And you can usually tie it back to some kind of democratic party communication shop, be it the speaker with Pelosi, be it the Schumer shop, be it the Biden or Obama or whoever it may be. And that's just the way it is. And that's fine. But it's just anticipation that no one's going to notice. And they had to do this because they're having to curry favor with somebody. And well, what about Fox? Well, news core is, I mean, they're Australian. They don't really have to answer to a necessarily have to answer to an American master. I bet you if Fox news were bought up by like Berkshire Hathaway or something, or Goldman Sachs or Google or whatever, something that was American base, it would go left in a hurry. But that's just like watching during the break there, the news coverage, and just how similar MSNBC and CNN were not not that they were from an ideological standpoint, but rhetorically, almost identical. Is that just coincidence? And no, because it happened so often. And I know how this game works. I mean, I'm in this business. I know when the talking points are sent out. I get them all the time, especially from Republican party. But I have no like desire to ever even read them. I mean, I know what they are. What's different with the media, the legacy media in America is this almost sycophantic adherence to this expectation that you will read the company script. And if you don't, I mean, like what one of these discussions like the other repercussions? To find what three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six, a house state house, majority leader, Scott Standig and joining us here in just a bit. I'll do these text. What's the name of the song you just played? The artist where he talks about coming down from Montgomery and Spanish for mobile is Jimmy Buffett, stars fellow in Alabama. You need to look up on YouTube shine pal and the coastal cowboys, the written in rivy arrows to that song. I've heard that song. A name texture. If you think we ain't run over, how do you think they build a thousand houses a month in North ball account or in ball with county? I'm not saying that we're but but what are these people that are who are here to stay on name texture? Are we? Is it because like when you go to some places, well, let's take places in Alabama, go to Russellville, Alabama. And you're like, where the hell is Russell, Alabama? It's in the northwest corner, just south of the shoals, Franklin County. 2030 years ago, it was just like any other town in Alabama. And then obviously, these these poultry plants, they they gone after Hispanic labor. And you drive in Russellville and the downtown, for example, I mean, the languages and the the type of the type of commerce that's going on, the the Mexican grocery stores, and it's changed the the personality of their community. And that's when you know you're over ran. Um, well, I grew up in Alabama, suburb of Birmingham, Shelby County. Well, you know, the the local grocery store there is back when the Bruno's family dominated this state. It was always Bruno's a Dell champs. They had Dell champs. It was more of a South Alabama thing. And the Bruno's were more of a Birmingham thing. And they had food world in Bruno's and whatever else. Some other change as well. Food backs or something. And now you go where the old food world is. It's a Mexican grocery store. Like it's it's it's it's, you know, the the check cashing places are the places where the Western Union is where they send money back overseas. It's these changes in the community of people that that that's when you know you're like, what I'll quote over ran all the counties out there yet. Maybe it will be someday, but I'm telling you like, you'll know, uh, a name texture says Fairhold Pat. Oh, this is a this has been. Fairhold had a feral cat problem for 25 years. Maybe they can get a few of those Haitian migrants. Now, somebody could walk me through this. I thought the feral cat thing was sort of like it was like a Hemingway and the catching of Key West sort of thing because if you go like downtown and you go through that little alleyway that they have decorated like it's, uh, like it's the French quarter. I mean, you see the bowls of cat food. And you see the cats, the feral cats just kind of roaming, but the what it is, it's like a counter to any sort of invasive, uh, past rats, mice, whatever. And people kind of tolerated it for that reason. Buzz, Haitian scene eating cats is a real thing. When our farm would get H2A Haitians to pick sweetcore, we had to hide the bar cats or they would disappear. We learned this the hard way the first year we had them. But, but supposedly mods, that's like a racist thing to point out. And it's, it's, you know, like, what is racist? How is that racist? Maybe I'm the stupidest man in, in America to connect that to some is a racist trope that I know, you know, those Haitians, they like to eat cats. I mean, like, I never heard that in my life until this episode with Haitians. Is it a false stereotype? Obviously there's some truth to it. People seem to, it could be convinced that their pets are disappearing and they're getting eaten. And this is documented. And I guys, I really think that the Democrats got a problem here that at this state where immigration is clearly out of control and there's no real answer from Biden and his administration and his vice president that it was that we're experiencing this because of some, some sort of bipartisan failure in the US Senate is not believable. And it's having a real repercussions and it was like when they went after Mitt Romney for the dog. I know you say Obama ate dog, but that never stuck for some reason. But it's like Christie, no, I'm in the dog. It's, um, whatever. And they're really worried. The child is cat ladies and JD Vance. They're really worried. The Democrats are that Harris is going to get tagged with this Haitian problem and people's pets getting eaten. Because that's why they're playing defense so aggressively and claiming this is racism. And that's why David Mer last night on ABC during that debate got involved the way he did. That's why he got in the middle of it. Like they're, they see a problem there. And I like, I see this from a lot of my friends, allies, uh, former colleagues in the media on the conservative media are terrified of this. So the fact checkers are going to shut us down. Why is Trump taking the bait here? Guys, as long as the perception's there and it may be the truth, but the perception, I think by at least half the American public, if not more, and since these, this, this alien culture is coming in and they don't have domesticated pets, they have domesticated food, right? I mean, that's just the way it is. And that's the perception from a lot of the American public and the Democrats can't overcome that. All they got is the only card they got to play is racism. All right, that's not true. But if it does catch on and that becomes sort of the conventional wisdom, and I think it's that way, despite the media's best efforts, they're going to lose. Are they textured? Just a matter of time before Russellville and Franklin County are completely controlled by Hispanics who have been their sister early 80s. I, I think it's sort of leveled off. I mean, you go to Red Bay. There's other parts of Franklin County that, that are encountered to that, but, but it did change Russellville and it did change Albertville. It's not small town, Alabama. It's definitely a different look than what it was. I named texter, um, children, their children will be missing next. I'm not there. Uh, fired off. Haiti is 99.9% poor. And I mean, poor or not. We have cars, TVs, Xbox, poor, like the US, all the animals are food and Haiti, and frankly, most of the world, just not here. And we're, we need to have a very first world perception. And we work hard because we are a first world country, right? We are a developed nation. We don't have to eat fats. We don't have to eat cats or dogs. We don't have to eat these things and like that because we have a stable food supply. We have agriculture. You may not like GMOs or any of the fertilizer or pesticides they use, but we have a stable food supply. Countries go by the wayside because they people, their people go hungry and we don't have to eat these weird meats for a calorie count to survive. And I think people in this country fully appreciate that. 2513430106, we'll be right back. This is Jeff for show on FM talk. One of six, five is mine. I'm rich, but lord, I'm free. Have a real. I keep a close watch about to the Jeff for show on FM talk. One of six, five, two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six. That's the text line. If you want to be in touch with the program, programming note tomorrow on the show. April, we'll be up with today and attorney general Steve Marshall on the docket. A lot to get into with him. I got to work on that a little bit, but and a guest to be named later. So please make sure you tune in. We'll be once again to win this week doing the Birmingham circuit. If you're familiar with Birmingham talk radio, I'm filling in on the station up there talking about in nine, five. Once again, seven hours of radio Thursday and Friday, especially driving up there tonight in this this storm is going to be, it'll be a lot of fun guys, but prayers are appreciated. Still to come on the program this morning, Scott Stad Hagan of Hartsell, our house majority leader will be with us. We'll get through these last of these texts here. They text received like a lot of easy layups from this last night, I want to do you a tribute to that too. Does he have advisors when he listened to anyone anyway? Somebody is not in his ear that needs to be that was in his ear early on. I don't know you're right about the layups. Your perception of this is totally accurate. They had a plan to Harris team had a plan and Harris executed that somewhat okay. They knew and I knew and you do. As soon as they started talking about Trump's rallies are that he didn't win the 2020 election, they and they advertise this on these cable channels. It was to rattle him and get him off script because they know he can't resist. This is impulse he has and the other thing about it is like, okay, if you can't resist the impulse to respond to whatever it is they're trying to beat you with, have a good answer. Don't ramble if you're explaining you're losing. Take that into account. Two sentences backs. Get in there. Get out. And that's that's what they need to be have been prepared for and they were clearly not ready for that on a textured yet. The Clintons are managing a billions in Haiti relief. Yeah, remember they raised all the money to Clinton Foundation? You're right. Finally, on a textured, do you think there's any town father in the United States would say, yes, that is true. We are missing dogs and cats because of Haitians eating them. The individual individual would be run out of town. I think that is true in some places. You can say, you can say that's not true, but there are people willing to say that. Go watch the Silicon City Council meeting. I mean, there's a lot of concern about this. What's happening? Not by any decision of the local people. Look, you buy a house in the community. You send your maybe your multi-generational, your kids and your mom and dad and your grandparents and so on and so forth that been in that area for, you know, generations and it's just it's like your hometown. And in the the federal government of Washington, D.C., some nameless faceless bureaucrat is throwing darts in a map somewhere and says, Silicon, Alabama, Albertville, Springfield, Ohio. And let's try to find places where we got a half a million Haitian refugees, quote, unquote refugees. We got to do something with them. We can't leave them all in Miami. What do you want to do with them? And they start moving them around the country. Well, they won't really notice a, you know, a couple of hundred in their town of like 6,000 or 10,000 or whatever. They're not going to notice this. We'll just move them there. And we know our buddies there at the chicken plant need the labor. So put them to work. And there's no buy it from the local community. This is okay. That's okay with us. It's just Washington, D.C., making these decisions based on their, their own ideological policy objectives, this impact to people's lives directly. That's what is creating this hysteria. And no one wants to acknowledge it. It's just they're going to demean it and call it racist. That's going to have an impact until all election day. We'll be right back. This is the Jeff four showed if I'm talking one oh six five. I didn't mean to teach you that. Just what I had. But honey now. And don't make my brownies. Don't make my brownies. Don't make my brownies. Don't make my brownies. Let's look it back to the Jeff four showed if I talk one oh six five. Thanks for staying with us on this Wednesday morning. We'll get some of your text here if you want to try to squeeze one in two five one three four three zero one zero six and we will respond accordingly. But joining us now he is the majority leader in the Alabama House of Representatives. A big friend of this program throughout the session earlier this year when I was on in Montgomery I was his office and him personally sitting a lot of that up. But we're always delighted to have him on House Majority Leader Scott Stadegan joins us leader. Good morning. How are you? You're well sir. How about you doing Jeff? Doing well. Doing well. Well before we get into the rambunctious politics of the day. How have things been going? We haven't talked probably a whole lot since a sunny day but life kind of to normal right now for you. It is. It is. Just taking care of the family and making sure the business is running in the right direction and you know attending to constituents needs and been going to some of these title non town halls that the representative do both has been doing and just going to join the summer really. That's good to hear. Well it'll be back here soon and then we'll we'll get right back into the the blow by blow of state politics but for now leader it's it's it's presidential election and I'll just got asked generally ask if you you got to check out last night's presidential debate if you had any thoughts. I did actually rolled in from a town hall and literally sat down and it started and say I was really kind of just disappointed personally I hope it felt like it was three against one you know and I've never in all of my debates that I've watched I've never known a moderator to actually come back to one of the candidates you know and and participate in the debate so it was obvious it was you know it was one side it was obvious someone was more educated on the issues prior to the debate than the other and I just you know I just hope America's got their eyes up and they're paying attention. Yeah and that's my hope as well that you'll see some kind of these things they're they're important but they're only important to a degree I think people want to see who they're supporting to be president at least have the courage to get up on the stage and not not not hide from these these opportunities but on the other hand I mean most people it's a lot of it's just baked in and we maybe should have expected kind of the way this was going to go so I don't know I'm I don't know this is going to move the needle a whole lot personally but let's hope that if they do do another one of these it'll be a better presentation. Let me ask you this and so they brought us up last night with immigration and I this this is not spilling over in Alabama especially this hate this hate this Haitian migrant story uh you got three places right now Silicon, Talladega County got Athens up in limestone and then obviously you have Albertville and Marshall County uh Athens is kind of in your orbit but like I think that like you're seeing this as a reflection of immigration policy in this country they're moving Haitian migrants to communities all over the country and it's really impacting people's day-to-day lives or you know what they what they need to be on the lookout for. 100% you know and that's what it's very frustrating just talking about the debate you know the president vice president can fix this right now and you know Trump called that out he said if you truly are interested in fixing the problems that we're facing take your tell to the Capitol and fix it right now because you are in power you can um I've heard from several several people around the state how upset they are and just from the town hall I think the council meeting is I think it was in Silicon that I want it's just really disturbed me you know because people are upset and they elect us to serve them in public office they are the people who are in charge not the people serving we use her to the people that put us here and for them to be treated the way they were it was very distancing I mean I just couldn't believe it and everybody's frustrated um you know a lot of people they they just want to know what can we do and it's a federal issue I think the state can look and see what we can do but once again federal issue um and I think this is no it's no mistake that they're coming it's all organized um they've got EBT cards working visas they probably have better ID cards about I guess I don't know but it's just it's amazing how the federal government is allowing this to take place in the state of Alabama and other states well and that's I guess that was would be where I was gonna go next like is there anything on the state level that can be done you do see this I mean I think part of the draw is there's these jobs uh maybe it's poultry processing or or maybe it's construction or whatever but that that seems to be at least in part what's drawing these migrants to Alabama is there anything that can be done on that in front you know I don't know I know there's several legislative tours that are looking into legislation that you know that the state can't participate in I think at the end of the day um I think we just got to raise our voices to the DC and hopefully you know a couple months from now Trump wins we don't have to worry about this he's going to fix the problems with immigration he's going to fill up the borders again and he's going to take care of business and what we're dealing with right now and what we're worried about you know if the if it goes the other way you know we're gonna have to seriously get ready to put up a fight and and take care of business ourselves and do whatever we can right and then that's that's like the the importance of the state government and I mean it comes at a time I think well no matter what happens uh if Trump wins it's going to be totally different two years if Harris wins it's going to be kind of up to the states and Congress uh to to act as a a bulwark or at least a speed bump to whatever they're trying to accomplish and that's where you guys the Alabama legislature have to be playing defense almost that's right you know and I'm hate to say this but I'm tired of articles talking about doing something we need to see action on this we don't need to see people's opinion on how you feel about it we need to see action and we need to something to be put in place to fix the problems that we're we're seeing and we're facing and I think that's the only thing we can accept right now because they're coming in by the hundreds and I mean we we're defenseless and it's it's not a good feeling has an Alabama and it's only going to get worse and that's with anything in this country if you know once they get away with it they're going to keep doing it keep doing it and it's be probably times 10 in the next couple years if we don't do something well joined by house uh majority leaders Scott Stadhagen here on the program uh the other big issue uh and um I've taught the representative Dubose and uh we've had the attorney general but well let's start with this one the libraries and it's become the hot mutton issue for the day at Alabama because and I honestly believe this it's not really some kind of fundamental first amendment thing for these librarians they just don't like being told what to do the bureaucracy hates it when you meddling politicians get in the middle of what they're trying to do here and that's where you're why you're getting this pushback but there's does does it require an act in the legislature or do you see the the library board the APLS what they've done as sufficient enough I think they're definitely going in the right direction I think the the worry of indoctrination of our kids and seeing you know what they're actually seeing in the library has with some people saying well you know kids shouldn't be by themselves for the library but it should be with parents well I mean that's true but when like my daughter and I go to books a million she you know she goes to her sex and I go to mine um and then we kind of meet up at the end and review all the stuff that we are thinking about getting um you know kids are not going to be with their parents a hundred percent of the library I think those books need to be separate um I think what they're doing is definitely a good step in the right direction but we've got to make sure that the miners and the kids do not see stuff that they don't need to see and they you know that's what I talked about last night you can't even turn on literally Disney Channel and watch Mickey Mouse anymore without seeing rainbow flags and Mickey and Mickey's and many and many's and that's a problem and that's an indoctrination and they're wanting our kids to accept this so in generations to come that's going to be the norm and we've got to put a stop to that I mean we just that's not that's not right and that's that's our job as lawmakers yeah it's just and this is sort of my perception but and I don't know like some some places in our culture I mean there's a real uh deficiency with parenting I mean it just you know there's no one there to play this role but I really think this leader that uh these these corporations uh the the institutional left I mean they see their themselves as playing this parental role in our culture and you know it's not exactly the country's you know has a bunch of different cultures but a one-size-fits-all approach what may work in California is not going to work in Alabama 100 percent on that you know um our society and generations are changing um as if you go to a school right now if you were to just sit in the chair and watch the the parents they're dropping kids off there's a large percentage of them that are grandparents because the parents aren't raising these kids and that I mean I've never noticed that in the past it seems to get worse that you know these uh these guys are having kids they decide they don't want to have them and the and the grandparents have to do round two of parenthood and they're tired and they don't have the energy of doing homework every night and that's the sad part of our society is it is different than what it used to be in the corporations the kids are so in tune to watching tv and cartoons all the time they know that they can indoctrinate them through that and they can make them accept different things that they shouldn't be accepted just think about four decades ago if you would have bring up any of these topics four decades ago how do you think our society reacts right it would be so horrific for that person who we even thought about bringing it up but now here we are generations layer and it's accepted and it's because you're just moving the needle little by little and more and more is accepted more and more is tolerated and we've got to stop it because if we don't 20 years from now there's no telling what's going to be the norm in our society well the other thing it feels just like it's just kind of out of thin air out of fiat it posed upon us that like maybe 20 30 years ago when California or New York City or wherever was like kind of testing the waters on some of this woke progressive agenda they met about it they had town hall meetings they they generally came to a consensus and the public said yes let's go in this direction with whatever unisex bathrooms and transgender females playing girls athletics but like you feel like you look at Alabama and it was just sort of they're trying to impose it on the state we never got to have a discussion about it we never talked about this being the right or wrong thing to do it just kind of happened and that's what people object to that's right 100% absolutely and forcing somebody's way of life on you that you agree with you know and that's you know just with all this transgender stuff that we're dealing with I'm I'm going to file a bill this year about the transgender in front of minors and I don't you know if the person wants to be a transgender that is their American right they can be a transgender they can be whoever they want to be that's not the concern the concern is is when you start acting in an explicit way in front of a minor that's where it is a problem and that's what my bill is going to address if you want to have a you know drag show behind closed doors without kids involved no I don't really I don't that's your right but once you start putting minors in front of that and being provocative and indoctrinating those kids that's where we have a problem we have to draw the line on that and hopefully we get that through this year and we don't have to worry about this anymore last question we're wrapping up on this I mean is there anything else that needs to be done on with this this transgender female in participating in female sports and I know there's a law on the books and as I said Representative Bose has been making the rounds around the state with the attorney general we good there what do you think yeah I think so I originally carried the K-12 athlete transgender bill several years ago Representative Bose carried it in the collegiate level I feel like you know Alabama has done their part as far as you know the competition athletics is concerned I think of course there's something else comes about we'll address it quick but I think we've done all we possibly can do I think it's it's very sad and with the Olympic Games and all this other stuff that we're seeing in NCAA it's just very sad what's taking place and women's rights are being like taken away from them and it's actually okay but yet like last night you know the Democratic candidates talking about women's rights she's talking about reference into abortion what she's not talking about is the rights that she's taken away with her policies with the girl at length I mean that's crazy I mean they're destroying their rights but they're so worried about their rights to have the abortion you know and that's the whole confusion here but I think us as Alabama we have done all we possibly can do to protect women in the state of Alabama leader we got to leave it there you've been very kind to come on and make time for this program and hopefully we can talk again soon absolutely be safe down there in the storm everybody thank you house majority leader scott stat egg in there we'll be right back this is the jet poor show it if i'm talking one oh six five managed for it into my home town mr. team sitting here at the floor of Alabama about to open up a big old cannon good time unwind falling and out of love in the same night okay say i got a whole lot of cares i'm in the red neck of heavy air getting crazy i'm getting hammered sitting right here at the floor of Alabama welcome back to the jet poor show it up and talk one oh six five thank you for staying with us what's the left of this Wednesday morning coming up tomorrow on the program april berry focal alabama today and uh turny general steve marshall uh real quick uh named texture l-o-l-o-l anytime ours lose a claim it's rigged anytime i get a text from a 16-year-old girl i uh tend to l-o-l myself uh joe if i were governor of alabama there would be zero immigrants coming here i don't think you have would have that power joe uh community notes want to be it's called being a parent take some responsibility well i let's not pave the way for let's not pave the way for objectionable content or behavior from our children by our government okay uh especially in our public institutions if enough people community notes want to be want to say hey we don't need to be doing this in our public libraries and it's a sizable enough majority you don't need unelected librarians or bureaucrats within the library world making that decision these are still public institutions and i think that's the objection here uh squirrel too many conservatives and morally bound people are ignoring this gender and grooming issue yeah it's so taboo to talk about it's it's difficult and like how do you approach it what is that like the definition of what's going on anyway enough of that i come up here shortly you get mid-day mobile shelter what you got for them hey jeff yeah coming up in just a couple minutes we'll get another update from staff meteorologist dr bill williams on franceen as it's uh we're getting some rain from it already in our area we'll talk to him a little bit after 12.05 also of course breaking down last night's debate you've been doing such a great job at it i'm going to come in on the tales of that and that's capping in also eric atomas from 18.19 news maybe you heard of her she joins me at 12.30 representative chip brown at one o'clock and april mary fogle at 1.30 so we are stacked today on mid-day mobile well i'm looking forward to that uh uh especially uh representative brown and especially with his vh stuff going on i think it's kind of uh maybe an underreported storage you know what he passed right because he passed that bill of course he's a veteran as well right and you know had that uh the bill for uh you know the veterans mental health uh mental health services so yeah he i think he has a dog in this hunt on a couple levels well is it kind of as a preview shot uh what did you take it a last night's debate i thought uh it was i know that uh you know trump is out there saying he was the best ever there's never been one but it was not the best ever right i agree not the best ever um the moderator portion uh we we'll talk about that uh that i think that warrants it but i think also on the patient and the dog thing and all that i think this is people chasing a tennis ball when the real action is happening back on the porch on the station issue so well i don't know why trump went there's some things he did i said all right good job some i go why did you go there so i'm yeah i don't i see maybe i give him last night a see maybe yeah you give kabala the w but i don't see she's got the asterisk next to it with the moderators true but i mean do people carry asterisk into the voting booth no but they don't carry debate results either into the voting booth so that's fair yeah all right i got to get out of here it has been a pleasure i will try to do better tomorrow sorry phil's forgot say goodbye this has been the jeff pore show what if i talk what oh six five (dramatic music) (upbeat music)