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And I'm honored to have their support, and I think it's an important statement right now. A lot of what I think is happening, and I was just talking with some folks here in Pittsburgh about it, is that people are exhausted. About the division and the attempts to kind of divide us as Americans. And she had nothing to do with that. That was all Trump, the division. Them stepping up to make this public statement, I think, is courageous, but also for people like the folks I was just talking with, it really reinforces for them that we love our country, and we have more in common than what separates them. Wow. So Dick Cheney, Dick Cheney, his endorsement of Kamala Harris is what proves that we have more in common as just United States citizens. We have more in common, and it shows because the people who vehemently push for war, the neocons like Dick Cheney, are willing to support Kamala Harris, who is, you know, anti-war, wink, wink, will say. Like the things that unite us are more important than the things that divide us. Yes, unless the things that unite you are blowing up brown kids. That's a nice, just the way that they spin it into a win. Like anybody who knows Dick Cheney supporting Kamala Harris, I don't know. Even Harry Sisson was like, wow, this is amazing. It's like, bro, you're the party at Dick Cheney now. Like that would, if Dick Cheney supported Trump, it would be the ultimate evil. And everybody remember all of Dick Cheney's evils, but because he's supporting our gal. He's one of the good ones. I also saw Toad's post. I thought it was great. I don't know if you saw it. He posted about Green Day. Like they wrote an entire album about the Bush administration and being anti that, like the American idiot. It was a fucking musical. It was made into a Broadway musical also. The whole thing was about being anti-bushes and Cheney's, and now they're like, yeah, we're the party of the Cheney's because, you know, that's how cults work. Any thoughts, Dave? I like the, it's almost like the inversion of what we're kind of doing. Like it's coalition work, right? Like, you know, reach across the aisle. It's just like, it's the inversion. I will ally with anybody on the basis of evil, but nobody on the basis of good. Right. And another thing that just kind of stuck out to me during the debate. And I was trying to just view this as through clear, through clear lenses. I obviously have, you know, preference towards Trump. But like, I'm just thinking about your average voter or your average person of average intelligence who's watching this. I'm like, look, can you at least, can we all agree that, okay, he might not be prepared for this? She looks like she studied hard for the big test. But can we agree that he is authentic? He is himself, and she is projecting what she thinks that you want her to sound like? I mean, that seems to be, he is too, but he is doing it in a more authentic way, at least. Like, yeah, I might take away after the second watch was like, Trump looks like, if I were just coming into this blind and didn't know these people from Adam, which I can't imagine it too many people are in that camp at this point. But if I was coming into this blind and I saw this guy and her, I'd be like, he seems like an angry old man who's very passionate about his anger. She seems like a smarmy, nodal bitch. And maybe, maybe that's a, you know, a sexist thing or whatever. But her standing there, and again, we're just going to, we're going to break this all down before we get to the 25 clips that I've pulled up here. But yeah, her standing there with like her hand on her chin and laughing and stuff, while he's making points about things that, whether you agree with his points or not, it seems just from body language. It's like, this is a guy who's pissed off about the way things are going. So if you're just somebody coming in blind and taking these people on face value, it's like, that guy seems like he cares. That person seems like they're trying to convince me that everything's okay. It just so happens that that person's still in the White House right now. But yeah. And I saw a guy, there is no news, only spin, right? So the left would spin that as, oh, you're always so negative, so doom and gloom. We're about joy over here. Like, it's just the inverse. You can just spin it a different way. Sure. We're about joy. Well, the economy is in shambles under my administration. We're just about joy. That's the problem. We haven't been happy enough. Yes, you know, it's a, excuse me. It's a cause and effect sort of thing, doll. We'll be happier when you make the economy suck less, but. Okay, there's another thing that's going around this. You've seen the, I imagine the earpiece conspiracy that Kamala Harris's earrings were in fact earpieces that were feeding her. Information and you know me. You know that I don't even necessarily know the shape of the earth and also I'm not sold for or against Donald Trump and I trust nobody ever. I'm not, I'm not, I'll also be honest and say that I'm not buying this yet and I'm open to somebody giving me information that would convince me, but I'm not buying this conspiracy theory either. It's kind of like the, when Joe Biden first came out and they're like, oh, he's on a green screen because look at how the mic goes. If I can find information, which we broke down and did at the time, on how this makes sense outside of a green screen, then I'm all for it. But this, as far as I can tell, is just these earrings that she was wearing kind of look like these. Few thought earrings were merely a fashion statement. Think again, Nova's H1 audio earrings is the world's first wireless earphones made with real pearls. Unlike conventional earrings, these earrings are placed on, so when you inevitably lose them, it'll cost you way more to replace them. The earlobes and project the sound from inside the pearl straight into your ear canal. This directional sound technology can avoid sound leakage and keep conversations and music private and secure. So that's basically the gist of the theory there. Yeah, as you can see, her earrings do kind of look like that. Now these have the two lines, many people, including my wife, are pointing out that Tiffany makes earrings like this. But yeah, these look bulkier when they're in and not quite the same on the wire I don't feel like, but I could be wrong. What do you think, Dave? These just look more like a pearl on an earring than these do. These look like a pearl that was like worked into a piece of technology. Yeah, I haven't seen enough evidence, and I'll just say it kind of reminds me just a little bit of the cat and the goose stuff. It's like the more time we spend talking about this, when we talk about it, it might make her look better to her people or the people in the middle. So I just worry about that kind of stuff, because there's so much to talk about. It's cute and on bait. Keeps you over here when there are so many legitimate grievances regarding camel hair. Now the cat stuff in Springfield, I feel like there's been a lot more examples of that. However, Donald Trump's response about it. We'll save because we're definitely going to get into that. Yeah, so on this earring thing, do you think there, do we need to go any further for now or? I don't know, because like, yeah, there might be better technology than Bluetooth that Kamala Harris has access to, but if it is just these Bluetooth earrings, I think people looked up. If they are the Bluetooth earrings that people are saying that they are, the range is like 30 feet, which means that somebody would have to be under the stage or backstage or in the non-existent audience in order to do it and secretly be whispering her. I think it's infinitely more plausible that she was given, because she did okay, she did fine. I think it's more likely that she was given to some degree the questions in advance, and she had debate prep for the entire month before. She did one interview in the month before. She's probably been working her ass off for this moment, and credit where it's due. She did not fall on her face nearly as hard as we expected she would, but she also did talk in circles and use four words in places where there should be only one, and had a lot of word salad and said a lot of nothing. But your common person doesn't necessarily realize that she was saying nothing. They just know that she was happy while she was saying nothing. But we are going to get into it now. Let's jump into the debate itself, and starting just from the top, right out the gate, the introduction, I found to be awkward as hell. Let's watch. He begins here tonight in this hall at the National Constitution Center. This is an intimate setting for two candidates who have never met. President Trump won the coin toss. He chose to deliver the final closing statement of the evening. They must have had an actual coin toss because it worked in Donald Trump's favor to where he had the closing statement. I'm kind of surprised they even had a real coin toss, or it seems strange to me that they do a coin toss at all, but I guess it's how you do these things. But yeah, we're going into this. With all of Joe Biden's pre-existing terms and everything, they're all just going along with it. You're right that Donald Trump should have pushed for this being, you know, on some network that isn't hit the opposition's endorsing network. But let's see if it works in his favor. President Harris selected the podium to the right. So let's now welcome the candidates to the… Oh, that's another thing. Kamala Harris selected the podium to the right. Kamala Harris selected the podium that is clearly smaller than Donald Trump's podium. She just chose it. How about that? And I've heard rumor that that is what happened, like it was part of her insistence that her podium be smaller so that she didn't look smaller compared to him when they're side-by-side on the thing. And you can see in their side-by-side shots that just proportionally she looks like she's zoomed in on more too to bring her up to scale of Donald because her head looks Donald-sized, which I would bet that it is not. This picture looks like Beetlejuice House. Yeah, we'll just kind of angle the camera a little bit so you don't notice that that one is clearly taller than the other. Like, it feels like they've got it at an angle so that they're close to the same height if you're just looking. But if you look at the floor, they're not. The stage. Vice President Kamala Harris and President Donald Trump. No! Not trains? No! We're probably going to get that on all these fucking clips that I have pulled up, but we'll deal, it's fine. Totally worth it. I mean, we are five seconds into it so you might as well take a three-minute break to learn about trains. All right, here we go. Here's their intro. Silent. Kamala Harris, what's up, good to be here? If you see, have fun. Thank you. Welcome to you, Bill. She said her name. I'm Kamala Harris. Oh, you're this woman I've been hearing so much about, huh? You're Kamala Harris? Yeah. Oh, that's you. Is that like a power move that she walked to his side of the stage before they could meet in the middle and she took the lead on? Oh, it's me, Kamala Harris. I hope you have a good debate. And you're just like, whatever fuck, get over at your podium, don't care. Like, that feels like an intentional move that she was prepped to do. Like, you take the lead on that and don't let him come over and give you the handshake where he jerks you in and... Yeah, arm grab. Right. It's wonderful to have you. It's an honor to have you both here tonight. Good evening. We are looking forward to a spirited and thoughtful debate. Sure. Let's get started. I want to begin tonight with the issue that voters repeatedly say is their number one issue, and that is the economy and the cost of living in this country. Vice President, I wanted to play the beginning of her response. This is the first response out of anybody's mouth. And it feels so much like the interview, where she just instantly goes into, "Here's what my notes say." And it feels like an opening argument rather than a response to what he's saying. And Harris, you and President Trump were elected four years ago, and your opponent on the stage here tonight often asks his supporters, "Are you better off than you were four years ago?" When it comes to the economy, do you believe Americans are better off than they were four years ago? So, I was raised as a middle-class kid, and I am at... Just the body language of, so... It always feels like she's reluctantly like, "And here's way too much information." I guess. Here we go. Actually, the only person on this stage who has a plan that is about lifting up the middle class and working people of America. I believe in the ambition, the aspirations, the dreams of the American people. What was it? I believe in the ambitions, the aspirations, the dreams of the American. Not just the ambitions, but also the aspirations, and also the dreams. It's like she just carries a thesaurus around so that she can fill in time. And that is why I imagine and have actually a plan to build what I call an opportunity economy. Because here's the thing. I will not explain. We know that we have a shortage of homes in housing, and the cost of housing is too expensive for far too many people. We know that young families need support to raise their children, and I intend on extending a tax cut for those families of $6,000. I'm pretty sure that's the one issue that she's going to do, just that tax cut. She's leaning real heavily into that, and she's mostly just, she's going to do it, she's got it, she's going to do it. It's the largest child tax credit that we have given in a long time, so that those young families can afford to buy a crib, buy a car seat, buy clothes for their children. My passion, one of them, is small businesses. I was actually, my mother raised my sister and me, but there was a woman who helped raise us, we call her our second mother. She was a small business owner, I love our small businesses. I love my second mother, I love her, I cherish her, I embrace her, I like her. To start up small businesses, knowing they are part of the backbone of America's economy. My opponent, on the other hand, his plan is to do what he has done before, which is to provide a job. Now at this point, Donald Trump should have immediately, like he should have led with, you are currently in the White House. She's like, his plan is to do what he's done every time before. It's like, well bitch, you've got this plan, it's very vague and you're not saying anything that you're going to start on day one. Why aren't you starting it now? He does say that, but he doesn't say it until his closeer and he closes last, so she doesn't have a chance to respond to it. That should have been what he leads with, but I don't know. We're not obviously not going to cover this entire two-hour debate, but his response was, if it's not in my next clip, it was lackluster. But you got any thoughts before Dave? You know, strong start, though, I'll say the same thing that I said last week about this lady, is that I feel like, you know, she studies hard for the big shit. And once she gets out there, she gets nervous, and she just starts remembering random lines, like random lines. The middle class is what I care about, and I got this plan, and this is obviously what we're doing, and I care about small businesses. I don't know what my boat is doing here, but she just kind of throws it out, gets little bits of what her coaches are telling her what to do. She's a several minute response, and all she said was child tax credit, better economy, families, life better, some stories, like she said absolutely nothing, aside from child tax credit, which, okay, great. Now, trying to find my notes, see what is next. I should have had them up here. Okay, so in this next clip, Kamala Harris, well, she, I don't even, there's going to be some things here that will make you pull your hair out if you have a fucking clue. She's really basing her whole strategy heavily on the idea that most people don't have a fucking clue, because there's at least five different things that have been debunked ad nauseam, and they're still just running with it. But here is, I don't remember where this starts, but we get into some January six stuff a little bit. Vice President Harris, you and President Trump were elected four years ago, and your opponent on the stage here tonight often asks his supporters, are you better off than you were four years ago? Same one. When it comes to the economy, do you believe Americans are better off than they were four years ago? So I was raised as a middle-class kid. This is not the right clip. I would love to. Let's talk about what Donald Trump left us. Donald Trump left us the worst unemployment since the Great Depression. Donald Trump left us the worst public health epidemic in a century. Donald Trump left us the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War. Since the Civil War. She said this to be clear, she said this on September 10th. Right. September 10th, she had the balls to say the worst attack since the Civil War. And I bet she wasn't smart enough to go. Are you sure you're not forgetting something? Oh, of course. Yeah, he didn't bother to bring that up. I mean, him and I think Kamala Harris and Joe Biden and JD Vance and everybody showed up at this 9/11 memorial the next morning. This was on the agenda, but she still is like, no January 6th. It's the worst attack on our democracy since sliced bread. Because 9/11 didn't happen. Maybe when they say our democracy, what they really mean is the 435 members of Congress and the 100 senators. Like, that's really what they mean, just us. 9/11 didn't hurt them at all. Yeah. Right, we're good. They had already evacuated all the important buildings and, you know, taking all their stuff at that point. So no worries there. All right. She goes on to talk about Project 2025, which as we all know is Donald Trump's big plan that he has not, you know, denied over and over and over again. And what we have done is clean up Donald Trump's mess. What we have done and what I intend to do is build on what we know are the aspirations and the hopes of the American people. And the dreams. We're just aspirations and hopes this time. You're going to hear the same old tired playbook. A bunch of lies, grievances and name calling. What you're going to hear tonight is a detailed and dangerous plan called Project 2025 that the former president intends on implementing if he were elected to again. I believe very strongly that the American people want a president who understands the importance of bringing us together. No, we have so much more in common than what separates us. And I pledge to you to be a president for all Americans. So she's using that again. The things that unite us. And she uses that multiple times because that's really what she's going for. Donald Trump's a divider. I'm a uniter. I bring Dick Cheney and Green Day together under one tent. And together we bomb Gaza and everything. But, Project 2025. Donald Trump did come out right after that and say it. I've denied this multiple times. She knows it. You know it. Everybody knows it. I'm not a Project 2025. Yeah. And if I recall, let's go and watch a little bit of his response. I do, I don't remember him saying anything about 9/11 or anything being worse than January 6. Let's find out. President Trump will give you a minute here to respond. Number one, I have nothing to do. As you know, and as she knows better than anyone, I have nothing to do with Project 2025. That's out there. I haven't read it. I don't want to read it purposely. I'm not going to read it. This was a group of people that got together. They came up with some ideas. I guess some good, some bad. But it makes no difference. I have nothing to do. Everybody knows I'm an open book. Everybody knows what I'm going to do. Cut tax is very substantial. It's another thing that he does a lot in this debate, which is not abnormal for Donald Trump. But he refers way too heavily to I'm good. And I'm good because people say I'm good. And you know I'm good. Everybody knows I'm an open book. I'm good. I'm good. I mean, it's kind of Tim Walz's strategy too. Like everybody, you know my record. You know me. I'm not a bad guy. I'm great. And yeah, he's going to do that a lot. Eventually and create a great economy like I did before. We had the greatest economy. We got hit with a pandemic. And the pandemic was not since 1917 where 100 million people died. Has there been anything like it? We did a phenomenal job with the pandemic. We handed them over a country where the economy and where the stock market was higher than it was before the pandemic came in. Nobody's ever seen anything like that. Yeah. This is where that they both won't say shit. And this is where he's wrong. And she's wrong too. Sure. And they'll keep picking the football because he goes on and I don't know if you'll play that part. But he goes look inflation under Biden is worse than ever. And this is all you grow. This is we're feeling your inflation your seven trillion dollars that you injected into the economy. You did that. And she won't say that either because they kicked in another five trillion or so after that. They are both guilty on that on that front. And so all he can do is say we did the best that we could and we did great and we handed off to them and they ruined it and all she can say is he did terrible and he handed us something bad and we made it great and neither one of those things are true. But it doesn't matter. All right. Let's the next one here. Let's go ahead and jump to that. We're Donald Trump is talking about Kamala Harris not having any issues any stances on any actual policies or anything and pay attention to the alternative. What he says are his issues and his stances on policies. You just have to look at where we are and where we stand on the issues and I'd invite you to know that Donald Trump actually has no plan for you because he is more interested in defending himself. Then he isn't looking out for you. So her claim is that Donald Trump has no plan for you which frankly if the government doesn't have a plan for me I prefer over them having a plan for me. But Donald Trump doesn't have a plan for you Dave is what she's saying. It's just a sound. Thank you for that to say. I went to the Wharton School of Finance and many of those. And for him to say that's just a sound bite. They gave her that to say he better have a good response to that. This is the top professors think my plan is a brilliant plan. It's a great plan. It's a plan that's going to bring up our worth our value as a country. It's going to make people want to be able to go and work and create jobs and create a lot of good solid money for our country. And just to finish off she doesn't have a plan. She copied. So his plan no need to mention it just know that top professors called him and said it was a good plan. It's got strong money. It's going to bring big things and greatness to us. But she doesn't have a plan and she knows that she doesn't have a plan. It's plan and it's like four sentences like run spot run. Four sentences that are just oh we'll try and lower taxes. She doesn't have a plan. Take a look at her plan. She doesn't have a plan. If you have to say it four times bro. She doesn't. She doesn't have a plan. You've seen her plan. It doesn't exist. She doesn't have a plan. I have a plan. She doesn't have a plan. That's all we've said so far. I have a plan. People like it. She doesn't have a plan. You've seen her plan. It's not a plan. Okay. Mr. President I do want to drill down on something you both brought up. The Vice President brought up your tariffs. You responded. I don't care about this. Yeah I just thought that was worth a note. While he's saying she doesn't have a plan. He didn't give any plan of any kind. He just said trust me I have a plan. On that note he's not different than Kamala. If he can't say I have a plan. Here's at least a little bit of my plan. Then you're not different in that. And even if even if your team has a plan that you're planning to implement. This is debate night bro. Show up with a plan or at least don't call out the other person for not having a plan. If your only plan is that you have a big plan. David muted. God damn it. I hate it. I'm just going to get through this one without that. I love I love that. I love the when they were talking about health care. He goes well I got a part of a plan. We'll get there. Okay we're going to talk about that one too. But it's like she's obviously when she says Donald Trump doesn't have a plan for you. What she's really saying is the Republicans aren't spending money on you. They're not going to have a program for you. So when he says like he can't articulate it. Oh but he wants to get rid of Obamacare but won't do it until there's another plan. Like he can't just go in and repeal Obamacare. So like I do have again he's correct saying I can't there's nothing I can do about it right now. There's not the will in Congress to repeal it like so I can't do that. And I'm not going to. I'm focused on the border. I'm focused on inflation. I'm focused on these other things. So like I I get like what do you what do you want from? Do you want a Republican big government health care plan? Like you're not going to get that from the Republicans or Trump. But it sounds great when she goes we've got this plan. He's got no plan like that's what have you done for me lately politics. Sure. Absolutely. Now in this next one. This I believe is where the the cats come into play and without any setup. Y'all if you haven't seen it just judge for yourself. Now keeping in mind we knew about the cats thing because we pay close attention to this stuff. It just started making even internet news less than 24 hours before this interaction happened. So y'all let us know if you think he handled it properly. Well they bought their chips from Taiwan. We hardly make chips anymore because of philosophies like they have and policies like they have. I don't say her because she has no policy everything. So this is entirely different question where she called him out for like chip manufacturing being more in China. And he's like you know it was in Taiwan because people like them because of their plan and their plan is bad. And that's why like he still gives no real explanation just people like them are the reason why we had to get chips from Taiwan. The thing that she believed three years ago and four years ago is out the window. She's going to my philosophy now in fact I was going to send her a MAGA hat. She's gone to my philosophy but if she ever got elected she'd change it and it will be the... He's not wrong there he's not wrong. So what he should do is go she's going to my policy she took my no tips for waitresses. She took my border policy she took like he should not just go down the list. Well no yes dude break it. She was anti-cop she was open border like all these things that are my that were my thing that she was not only against but she was attacking me for. Those are her plan now she's not just taking your plan she's completely inverting her entire viewpoint to match your plan. Because your plan is more in line with what it seems that people want. Because we saw her plan it didn't work out. Of our country she's a Marxist everybody knows she's a Marxist. Her father's a Marxist professor in economics and he taught her well but when you look at what she's... Look at it. Look at it. This is so great. I love it. Now even on this I think that he should have had a little bit more depth than just she's a Marxist. Everybody knows it. Her dad was a Marxist because that just leaves the door open for this guy's crazy. He's talking about eating dogs and her being a communist and all that shit. And yeah all she has to do is stand there and look smug and people who support her will be like yeah that face she made was way better than him saying that nothing. It's done to our country and when you look at these millions and millions of people that are pouring into our country monthly where it's I believe 21 million people not the 15 that people say. And I think it's a lot higher than the 21. That's bigger than New York State pouring in and just look at what they're doing to our country. There are criminals many of these people coming in are criminals and that's bad for our economy too. You know you mentioned before we'll talk about immigration later. Well bad immigration. It's a scattershot of like just focus a little bit like and economy and immigration and we're going to talk about that later and it's like just laser in on the actual thing you're trying to say. That's my biggest complaint in this debate is and it's always been my complaint with Donald Trump and I do the same thing as you can see. I stop in the middle of settings and move on to something else and I have a lot of my mind and I'm sure he's got a lot more on his mind than I do. So fair game but yeah this is pretty big debate so and it is our job to nitpick. Is the worst thing that can happen to our economy? They have and she has destroyed our country with policy that's insane. Almost policy that you'd say they have to hate our country. President Trump. She has destroyed our country with policy that's insane so insane that they would say it has destroyed our country. Great. Thank you for clearing this out. Yes I don't disagree with the point you're trying to make you're just not making the point. Yeah that's the inner roundabout way that's the point. And in the moment for me as I said like I didn't see it as as much of a mess the first watch because I'm just like give me something give me something to grasp onto here like attack her on something because I feel like there's a lot there and he did more than he has done in the past but it was still like yeah maybe you should have gone to the training also and not just assumed you had this in the bag. I feel like there might be a little bit of that he went into this not realizing how much stringent training she was probably in debate boot camp that was forced on her by George Soros for the past month and wasn't allowed out of the basement until she gave an answer that wasn't laughter. So that's what I'm saying dude they that's why they weren't they know that they don't need to do interviews oh why isn't you doing any interviews because the general populace only sees the main shit. So they know that they don't have to focus on that fuck you we're going to tie this up and now I feel like it's probably you know in the it's probably an even game. Really I don't know man I don't know about that but I think it's I think we're in about the same place as we were before debate to be completely honest. I think there might be one or two people who are swayed a little bit to be like okay instead of not voting I might go to the booth and vote for this person. I think that's the only the only types of people who might be a little bit swayed by this. So I was just listening to who's that he was just on Joe Rogan doing the event with Angela. Brett Weinstein. And he was talking about like the forget what he calls it but like you know the cheating window or something like that. So like do you think that the cheating window is close enough that they could pull. It's closer than it should be for Donald Trump versus Kamala Harris it's way closer than it should be. Yeah I would say judging by what I've seen everywhere it's like it doesn't seem as laughable to everybody else as it is to us that Kamala Harris is the president or could be the president. It seems absolutely laughable but also Joe Biden seemed absolutely laughable too and they still supposedly voted for him. Who knows. Let's see I think there was more on this clip. Let's see. To the issue of abortion president Trump you often I didn't mean to move on yet we're still in this clip. Thank you Lindsay. I want to turn to the issue of abortion president Trump you. Okay so I thought that was where the cats are I guess they come up later but we're going to talk about abortion first apparently. That's just the intro of Donald Trump sounding a little bit off his rocker when he throws shit out there but here's a. The town of that you were able to kill it will be weighed last year you said that you were proud to be the most pro-life president in American history. Then last month you said that your administration would be great for women and their reproductive rights. In your home state of Florida you surprised many with regard to your six-week abortion ban because you initially it said that it was too short and you said quote I'm going to be voting that we need more than six weeks but then the very next day your reverse course and said you would vote to support the six-week ban. Vice president. This is I will say before he answers a completely legitimate question that I'm glad she asked because we were asking the same or at least I was asking the same thing on the podcast the last couple weeks like what is your stance. And it seems like it has shifted at least three times in the last two weeks so fair question and yes to all those who think that they were harder on Trump than they are on Kamala. They were but also this is one that I fully endorse. Harris says that women shouldn't trust you on the issue of abortion because you've changed your position so many times therefore why should they trust you. The reason I'm doing that vote is because the plan is as you know the vote is they have abortion in the ninth month. They even have and you can look at the governor of West Virginia the previous governor of West Virginia not the current governor is doing an excellent job but the governor before he said the baby won't be born and we will decide what to do with the baby. In other words we'll execute the baby and that's why I did that because that predominates because they're radical the Democrats are radical in that. Now her vice before we continue just her expressions just shaking her head she's absolutely appalled this cannot be possible in the moderators will weigh in to to make sure that you know that what Donald Trump is saying is not true. So before we continue let's just watch this for a second no exception. There was a very contentious committee hearing yesterday when Fairfax County de la Kathy Tran made her case for lifting restrictions on third trimester abortions as well as other restrictions now in place. And she was pressed by a Republican delegate about whether her bill would permit an abortion even as a woman is essentially dilating ready to give birth and she answered that it would permit an abortion at that stage of labor. Do you support her measure and explain her answer. Yeah I'm you know I wasn't there. Julie and I certainly can't speak for delegate Tran but I would tell you one first thing I would say this is why decisions such as this should be made by providers physicians and the mothers and fathers that that are involved. There are you know when we talk about third trimester abortions these are done with the consent of obviously the mother with the consent of the physicians more than one physician by the way. And it's done in cases where there may be severe deformities there may be a fetus that's non-biable. So in this particular example if a mother is in labor I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered the infant would be kept comfortable the infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother. So I think this was really blown out of proportion but again we want the government not to be involved in these types of decisions. We want the decision to be made by the mothers and their providers and and this is why Julie that led me to feel more men by the way shouldn't be telling a woman what she should and shouldn't be doing with her body. Okay so that never happened as we're going to find out for Colonel Harris but she's absolutely appalled that that that Donald Trump could you know indicate that that may have happened with his presidential pick which I think is a horrible pick by the way for our country because he is really out of it. But her vice presidential pick says abortion in the ninth month is absolutely fine. He also says execution after birth it's an execution no longer abortion because the baby is born is okay and that's not okay with me hence the vote. But what I did is something for 52 years they've been trying to. Now even on this. If I were going into this knowing that abortion was going to be raised and I was definitely going to make this point I would be I would have the guy's name the state where you can find the clip like oh no you can look it up it's it's a what was it Ralph Northam of Virginia he said it on such and such show and like he doesn't do that either he's just he's he never has it feels like just your your uncle who is the conspiracy on type guy who's just like no this happened and you're like that didn't happen like no it did. Yeah okay well this is that's it. Give me a lot like I know they're both. Look what's happening in Springfield Ohio to the extent that it's happening is awful and the the abortion culture in America is awful but he should be cognizant of when he comes out and goes they're executing babies. Like bro you just have to do a better job I know it you should be fired up about that. Yes but like you know it is happening or at least they're pushing for it to happen and that is worth a mention but come with a little bit more ammo than it's happening because I said or it's out on TV. Yeah yeah anyway watch a little bit more of this will move on. You get Roe v. Wade into the states and through the genius and and heart and strength of six Supreme Court justices we were able to do that now I believe in the exceptions for rape incest and life of the mother. He also doesn't draw a fine like a firm line if you remember the question was like you've gone back and forth on this policy and where do you stand on it now and he's like well they like it up till nine months I'm not that. And I agree with the rape incest and the life of the mother now she will then go on to say Donald Trump doesn't even agree with rape incest or the life of the mother right after he said it so it's kind of just talking over each other and say like saying the sound bite that they're supposed to say and it's not even a debate at that point but he does not answer the question on where he thinks life begins and I think it's a it should be for all Boomer Republicans who voted on that and only that for the last 40 years. It should be a big question to ask and I'm glad she asked it and I wish he had a better answer than they're worse on it. Okay we know they're worse on it. Where do you stand on it though that's the question. Yeah and this is the problem with the like well it's maybe it's not the problem but you have the hard conservative opinion on this and the hard liberal opinion on this and they both have to run on the hard opinion and then come into the general and go you know what I really was a big ass up right dude of course Donald Trump is going to tell you exactly what polling says Americans want which is you know there's probably a little wiggle room there but the problem is that Donald Trump is making the big ask against what the Republicans claim to be for. He's making the big ask of Republicans to give like more leeway on this than they've ever given before that's his big ask instead of making the big ask against Democrats like yes I'm going to ban abortion. If you don't want that maybe we can talk about states like that would be the big ask in his the favor of what his general voting base wants. So this is pandering I would say to the other side. He's making a wager right that he already has the right and he needs the middle. He needs the middle that's that's the you you cannot no one can win going I am full on going to have a national abortion ban. Every single you can say it and you can feel pure and you can be right you will lose. It says something though to wear like to the the testicular fortitude of Democrats versus Republicans because he knows that he can pull the Republicans closer to the middle and closer to the left and closer on this very very big issue for them. And he's not going to lose a voter in that camp but he's willing to go over there to try and snake some of Kamala's supporters. Look don't make any mistake about it dude this is part of the transformation of the Republican party into the MAGA party you are going to over time get less and less of the bill of rights and less and less liberty shit and more and more big strong powerful coalition. You know we got you know we're working with RFK over here so like we're cool with some of these issues maybe a little bit of abortion here and there. It's like you know yeah the Bible is my second favorite book after Art of the Deal or what do you know that kind of shit. They're just getting away from some of that stuff and that's I think that's the future of the Republican Party. Yeah good job conservatives you've conserved so well. Now speaking of conserving things I don't know immigration and eating dogs we're finally going to we're finally there we found the clip okay moment we've all been waiting for here we go. But you tell me if he knowing that this news just broke or started to break not even on mainstream news but on the Internet started to trickle out there less than a day before or around a day before. How do you think your boomer liberal grandmother hears this. It would have allowed us to stem the flow of fentanyl coming into the United States I know there are so many families watching tonight who have been personally affected by the surge of fentanyl in our country. That bill would have put more resources to allow us to prosecute transnational criminal organizations for trafficking and guns drugs and human beings but you know what happened to that bill. Donald Trump got on the phone called up some folks in Congress and said kill the bill and you know why. Because he'd prefer to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem and understand I just can't handle the gaslighting of he would rather run on a problem than fixing a problem while you're currently in the White House. You could be the president if if you you know try it a little bit because it wouldn't take that much but let's just say you're currently your administration is currently running the show and you're running on that we have a problem that needs fixed. Like the literal definition of what you just described there of him running on a problem rather than fixing a problem but you're going to use that against him. Sure. This comes at a time where the people of our country actually need a leader who engages in solutions who actually addresses the problems at hand. Solutions in the former president is some solutions like those plans that we both talked about earlier. One who would prefer to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem and I'll tell you something he's going to talk about immigration a lot tonight even when it's not the subject that is being raised. And this is a point that I wanted to make too. This is a trap because she's talking about immigration which should be a big slap for him because he was the hard on immigration racist as they said. And now she is the hard on immigration and she's saying that Donald Trump's not good on immigration that should be an easy one to respond to. But she gives her her nothing answer and then her gaslighting answer and then moves into this manipulative tactic of just attack Donald Trump on his like his rallies and he's not he's not as cool. Like she knows that he's got a big ego to him so this all you got to do is throw something in there at the end that is about his ego and he will just completely disregard the entirety of the immigration slap that he could have gotten and defend his rallies. I'm going to actually do something really unusual and I'm going to invite you to attend one of Donald Trump's rallies because it's a really interesting thing to watch. You will see during the course of his rallies he talks about fictional characters like Hannibal Lecter. He will talk about windmills cause cancer. And what you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early of exhaustion and war. And I will tell you the one thing you will not hear him talk about is you. You will not hear him talk about your needs, your dreams and your desires. And I'll tell you I believe you deserve a president who actually puts you first and I pledge to you that I will. I will as soon as I start my next round. Thank you. President Trump on that point I want to get your response. Well I would like to respond. Let me just ask why did you. He's like cutting him off. He's like no I got to talk about this rally thing. No hold on hold on. She said something mean. I'm going to say something mean that. You want to kill that bill and successfully so that would have put thousands of additional agents and officers on the board. First let me respond to the rallies. No I will like even the moderators like we're talking about immigration. There should be an easy one for you. It's like no no no no no this rally thing. Let's get back to that. People don't go to her rallies. There's no reason to go. And the people that do go she's busting him in and paying them to be there. True. And then showing them in a different life. True. So she can't talk about that. People don't leave my rallies. We have the biggest rallies the most important. People don't leave his rallies when there's gunshots. People still stay. They stay until they die. Like people don't leave his rallies generally. But he is taking the bait. This is another example of all true stuff. And you're blowing it. Sure. Incredible rallies in the history of politics. That's because people want to take their country back. Our country is being lost. We're a failing nation. And it happened three and a half years ago. And what's going on here. You're going to end up in World War three just to go into another subject. Even he knows that he's on a tangent. He's like let's just scatter shot again. We're going to have been World War three. What they have done to our country by allowing these millions and millions of people to come into our country and look at what's happening to the towns all over the United States. And a lot of towns don't want to talk. It's not going to be Aurora or Springfield. A lot of towns don't want to talk about it because they're so embarrassed by it. In Springfield they're eating the dogs. The people that came in. They're eating the cats. They're eating true. But also I'm going to need more of an explanation for the common folk. Because right now we've got Don Trump screaming. They're eating the dogs and Kamala Harris's laughing at him. That's the optics that we have here. Skipped right over the 20,000 Haitians dropped. Yeah. In Springfield and just said they're eating the dogs. You jump right to the punch line, bro. You need a little bit of setup there. They're eating the pets of the people that live there. And this is what's happening in our country. And it's a shame. As far as rallies are concerned, as far as the reason they go is they like what I say. He goes back to the rallies. He was set up for immigration. He goes from, "No, my rallies are great. Her rallies suck." They're eating the dogs. You know, let's get back to the rallies. Her rallies suck and mine are great. They want to bring our country back. They want to make America great against. Very simple phrase. Make America great against. Oh, no. What happened? Oh, shit. This is where it freezes up. And I think I jumped different links for the rest of it. But you get the point. Yeah. Just focus, bro. I want to. I want you to win. I do. And I think it goes without saying. And I haven't been that secretive if I have to choose between any of the current people. It's a clear choice. But, bro, like, don't be. You're the art of the deal guy. You should have seen that for what it was. It was a set up. And you took it hook line and sinker when you could have said, "Well, there's a flood of migrants coming in." And didn't you happen to be like the borders are racist person? You invited them all in. You were the borders are. There's a lot that you could have gone to. But you went to, "My rallies are good and people go. Why do they go?" They like them. They like my rallies. It's like, "Come on." I wish, I mean, even playing to your strengths. Like, if I was his debate prep coach or whatever, I would be like, "Okay, man. You're going to be talking about how big and great your rallies are. I'm sure at some point today." So, make sure to jab her and go, "I don't have to bring Megan, T. Stallion." Right. Like, jab her with that. Don't just say, "My rallies are big and yours are not." And Kamala, Kamala led it with, "I'm sure we're going to talk about immigration day. I'm sure he'll bring it up more than it even like warrants or whatever. But it's quite the opposite. He brings that up less than it warrants and he brings up these rallies instead." So, yes, the team that's saying, "I'm sure you're going to bring up the rallies. You're going to bring it up more than it warrants." We know that. That doesn't need to be in the playbook. Focus on the actual issue, which is the immigration because this should be an easy one. I know COVID's not as easy for you, but oh boy, oh boy. All the way back to Obama you could have attacked her on and then Joe Biden and now her. And even to her role in it as the borders are, there's so much to work with there. And you want with, "They like my rallies." Okay. I believe you again, but now's not the time, Donald. Like a moth to the flame. Yup. Let's talk about- Okay, this one is oh, well, just some scare tactics from Kamala and I like Trump's response. But extreme. And understand the context in which this election in 2024 is taking place. The United States Supreme Court recently ruled that the former president would essentially be immune from any misconduct if he were to enter the White House again. Understand this is someone who has openly said he would terminate. I'm quoting, "Terminate the Constitution of the United States." Ha ha. That he would weaponize. I want to hear that sound bite. Dear Kamala supporters, if you're listening or Kamala herself, if you're listening. First off, praise be, hail, hail, hail. But send me that sound bite because I will play it over and over and over again. I'm not a Trump simp here. If you can find me that clip of Donald Trump saying that he would abolish the Constitution, yes, that seems like a big deal that we should be addressing. Now, as scary as it sounds for- and as unhinged as it sounds for Trump to say, they're eating the dogs. At least his is based on something. Hers is just, well, he's gonna burn the literal piece of paper Constitution and shoot all the Supreme Court justices. Like, give me one tiny piece of evidence, please. 'Cause that's quite an allegation to make. You know the difference, though, bro, is that the people that already hate Donald Trump, and they've spent years- oh my god, these Supreme Court justices, blah, blah, blah. Like, her lies are close enough to what they are, believe that it's like- Yeah. 'Cause they were brainwashed into thinking that he was gonna burn it down the last time. Right. Now, here we are. It's not burned down, but they still will believe that he wants to shred the Constitution. Sure. Yeah. Sounds like something to do. The Department of Justice against his political enemies. Someone who has openly expressed disdain for members of our military. Understand what it would mean if Donald Trump were back in the White House with no- That feels like another setup for a trap there. She's like, oh, he did the military thing. I don't know if Donald Trump once said they're losers and suckers. I don't really care. I don't care all if Trump did or did not say something- something just so bullish about military people. Great. Now, how is he gonna handle the military? I don't care his opinions on the military. I care what he does with them when he is the commander-in-chief, but he's gonna buy into that trap and go with- I did not say that. I would never say that about those people. Like, okay. Who cares? Fails. Because certainly we know now the court won't stop him. No, J.D. Vance is not gonna stop him. It's up to the American people to stop him. Vice President Harris, thank you. Lindsay? Vice President Harris, in your last run for President. This is the one that weaponized. Not me. She weaponized. I probably took a bullet to their head because of the things that they say about me. Can you buzz it? Yes. When I saw him say that, and I'm just- I'm looking for anything that I can pull from and go like what really happened. And when he said that, I probably took a bullet to their head. Like, I built- it felt like he was serious and a little bit irritated. It felt like I did take a bullet to like- Yeah, just putting that out there, I think. I wanna- like, I wanted him to lean into that more. I was glad he said it because that's quite a statement to make, and it's not. Like, if you believe the bullet story, um, which I'm torn on, and if you take that as truth, um, yes. Absolutely. She had something to do with it. If he had something to do with inciting an insurrection on January 6th, then they definitely had something to do with inciting a bullet to the head for him. So, yeah. I was glad to- I'll say that real quick, man. And Melania has been on a tear about this lately on her Twitter, and she doesn't speak much. But she came out the other day and was just basically like, I think it's a little bit curious that no one is talking about the attempted murder of my husband. And I do too. Why is that a major topic? Like, I took a shower last night, and as I was getting out of the shower, I don't know why I'm saying exactly when it happened. But I was getting out of the shower, and I thought... We had a presidential assassination attempt, like, a month ago, and nobody gives a shit. What the- Not that they don't- But it's more than that. It's not that they don't give a shit. It's like, it's super sus that they're not talking about it. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. I think it's sus on both sides too. That whole thing makes me think that they're all in dudes, but I don't know. I don't know, whatever. Let's get back to this. Democracy. I'm a threat to democracy. They're the threat to democracy. It was a fake Russia-Russia investigation that went nowhere. We do a lot to get to. We have a lot to get to, Lindsey. Yeah. Yeah. And they had a lot to get to, so we don't get into that too deep. Like, I would point out that he said very little there, except for his Russia-Russia-Russia slogan. He's not wrong once again. I'd like for him to have Doug deeper, but clearly they weren't allowed to dig deeper, so I can't hold that against him. Sure. Any thoughts on that before we move on, Dave? No, just that was what I was going to say. I know he only had five seconds at the end, but instead of saying Russia-Russia-Russia, because that just makes you sound like that's like your tagline or whatever. You could have went in through a second, but the establishment turned on me. Like, your government went rogue, like, you know, use some other words. It feels the same as, what do you think about immigration? Well, I have great rallies, and MAGA is a great slogan. People like that slogan. Like, yes, we know. All right. Now, this next one is just one of the fun soundbites of the night. Sadly, the mechs are muted in between most of the times. We didn't get too many of these, but when they come, we got to celebrate them. Fracking? She's been against it for 12 years. And defund the police. She's been against that forever. She gave all that stuff up very wrongly, very horribly, and everybody's laughing at it, okay? They're all laughing at it. She gave up at least 12 and probably 14 or 15 different policies. Like, she was big on defund the police. In Minnesota, she went out, wait a minute, I'm talking now. You don't mind, please. Does that sound familiar? Shut up. Silly woman. Yeah. So good. So good. I don't even care about the rest of that clip. I just like, I know it's petty, and it's playing into what they want and the WWE of the thing. But, I mean, give me that at least. And some of those moments, that's why people like Trump to begin with. I like Rand Paul a lot more than I like Donald Trump, but I still laughed when he made fun of Rand Paul's hair. Or said, Jeb was, what was he, low energy or said Ted Cruz was lion Ted or whatever. I know, it's petty, and that is why a lot of people hate Donald Trump, but that's also why a lot of people like Donald Trump because it feels more real to be like, yo, chill, bitch. Like, I'm talking now. If you can do it, I can do it. I don't think he pulled it off that well with the. Yeah. Santa Mary. And look, when he says, I don't know if we'll get into that, but like, I'm just asking the public and whether Democrat, Republican, libertarian. Yeah. You can tell he was not prepared for this, but he looks her in the eye, not breathing heavily and goes, I'm speaking. Whereas she like the whole, you can see her taking, like, clearing her, clearing her throat and, like, that's how she was. There's a lot of dry mouth moments for her swallowing hard in the middle of her answers too. Pay attention. She's clearly less comfortable than he is. Yeah. So when he says, I would talk with, you know, she president, she, and I would get there with, you know, Victor Orban and, you know, Zelinsky. He's serious. There's nothing that makes that guy appear nervous at all. She is a train wreck, bro. Yeah. When he talks to them, he might not know what he's talking about, but he would talk to them confidently, and I don't get that vibe from her. I don't get the vibe that she would know what she's talking about or do it confidently. Correct. All right. Now this next one is a bit of a hit on Trump. I feel like we should be keeping tally, but I guess it's not fair because we're not doing the whole debate. But this is Donald Trump. Actually, that might be the last one. Let me see. She went out in Minnesota and wanted to forget it. She gave up at least 12 and probably 14 or 15 different policies like she was big on to fund the police in Minnesota. She went out when I'm talking now. Yeah, that's the last one. You don't mind. We are now over here on whether or not Donald Trump thinks solar is good or bad. Dave, you tell me if you think Donald Trump is in favor or not in favor of solar power. If she won the election the day after that election, they'll go back to destroying our country and oil will be dead. We'll go back to windmills and we'll go back to solar where they need a whole desert to get some energy to come out. You ever see a solar plant? By the way, I'm a big fan of solar. But they take 400, 500 acres of desert soil. These are not good things for the environment. Dave, do you think that Donald Trump is in favor or not in favor of solar? I honestly don't know. Hard to tell after that. I think you know what it is. I like they take deserts. I like it. But they do these real bad things. I do it. Beautiful desert. Beautiful. Cover it with solar panels. Yeah. I think he likes the free energy and he probably doesn't like the aesthetic. Yeah. I feel like this is a topic where he heard some things and he's not entirely sure which way he's supposed to go with it. And he's just like, the solar, I've heard it's bad and also I like it. If you work in solar, I like you. I like you as a person. Vote for me. But you know, solar isn't bad in general, but it's bad when they do these things that are required for solar. That's all. Bro, at the end of the day, if Trump is anything, I hope that he wants America, if he's serious, what you're getting with Trump is a guy who would like America. To be competitive and strong and economically, he wants to see prosperity, all these things. Bro, the rest of the world and the corporate technocratic satanic elite want the opposite. They want to bring down America. They've decided, the death cult has decided, that you've been living too large for too long and it's not fair to the rest of the world. And we can't bring everybody up to your standard, so we have to bring you down. So I'm hoping that Donald Trump is the guy that's saying, nah, nah, fuck that. We'll be as good as we can. And the only, the clincher with that is you can't be fucking over the rest of the world for that. So that's where we're going to have to, where the rubber meets the road, work that out. But yeah, I hope that we can be competitive and not drop our standards over the next couple generations to the point where we're eating the bugs and the shit. Sure, fuck that. Yeah, that'd be great. And how Donald Trump would handle bringing up the fact that ClashWap talked about living pods and eating bugs, he would say, they're making us eat bugs. You know, you've seen it. And she'd be like, this guy? No, that's not happening. Yes, I heard, no. Yes, no, yes. That's where we're at. You're weird, you're weird, no, you're weird. Anyway, this next one is pretty weird because Kamala Harris just goes down the list. And keep in mind, there were a few fact checks, I think a couple of them were going to get to, but there were a few fact checks on Donald Trump. I don't think it was nearly as egregious as some right winger seemed to think it was, but he did have some fact checks where they did not fact check her at all. And this is only like halfway through the debate here, so for them to not fact check this, any of this, or say no to any of this, is quite impressive. And it's also quite impressive. The balls on this woman to feel, now when she leads up to it, you'll know the point. When she leads into the thing that you know that she's going to say, you can ask my wife, I was on the couch and I was like, don't, don't you dare, don't bother. Okay, you'll know the point. One of the people that burned down Minneapolis got to be prosecuted, or in Seattle, they went into Seattle, they took over a big percentage of the city of Seattle. Name them. Name them. Say the thing. Exactly. Details. Name them. Chas. Chop. You know the thing. Like most people don't. Name names, bro. We're going to be prosecuted. But let me just ask. You might ask her that question. You were the president. You were like that. You might ask her that question. Watching an unfold on television, it's a very simple question as we move forward toward another election. Is there anything you regret about what you did on that day? Oh yeah, this is, this is on January 6th to start out with. And he was asked the question, is there anything you regret? And he was like, well, what about them? What about them? What about this nut? And then he has to reiterate the, or re-ask the question, is there anything you regret? And here's his answer. Yes, sir. I had nothing to do with that other than they asked me to make a speech. I showed up for a speech. I said, I think it's going to be big. I went to Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington, D.C. And the mayor put it back in writing, as you know. I said, you know, this is going to be a very big rally or whatever you want to call it. And again, it wasn't done by me. It was done by others. I will say he handled this question pretty good in reverting to Nancy Pelosi here because he did say I had nothing to do with that. And I don't think he needs to elaborate that much more on that at this point. And him turning it into Nancy Pelosi directly was responsible for the security at this event. She knew that it was going to happen. She chose not to. I think that that is the right spin on that one. Like, no, fuck you. I didn't have anything to do with it. There's nothing I regret because I had nothing to do with it. I'd like to give you 10,000 National Guard or soldiers. They rejected me. Nancy Pelosi rejected me. It was just two weeks ago, her daughter has a tape of her saying she is fully responsible for what happened. They want to get rid of that tape. It would have never happened if Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington did their jobs. I wasn't responsible for security. Nancy Pelosi was responsible. She didn't do her job. The question was about you as President, not about former Speaker Pelosi, but I do want Vice President Harris to respond to it. I mean, such a dick move. The question was about you, sir. Do you have anything? Well, he did answer that. He added and elaborated and said, "Talk to this person if you have concerns." Well, we weren't talking about that person. Yes, but that is the answer to that question. Here. I was at the Capitol on January 6th. I was the Vice President-elect- And that little girl at the Capitol. I was mayor. He should have went, "I'm in New York on 9/11." Right? Which one do you think? No, that's what I would have said. The President of the- I mean, Dave, 9/11 Pales in comparison to January 6th. We know that. Oh, yeah. United States incited a violent mob to attack our nation's Capitol to desecrate our nation's Capitol on that day, 140 law enforcement officers were injured. And some died. What's with the smart? And understand the former press- Oh, that's a tactic of somebody who's lying. Yes, where they smile to make them seem more confident in what they're saying, but they're actually telling lies because a bunch of people did not die at the Capitol. A couple police officers died, like days later, seemingly unrelated, but the only person that died was Ashley Bennett. The President has been indicted and impeached for exactly that reason. But this is not an isolated situation. Here we go. Let's remember Charlottesville. This is the point where I was like, no, you can't do it. You can't do it. Don't do it. And what did he say? What did he say? Then at the time there were fine people on each side. That's the number. Got it in. When it came to the Proud Boys, a militia. A militia. The President said the former President said, "Stand back and stand by." You dumb bitch. So when it came to a militia, he said, "Stand back and stand by." Okay. I don't see any problem with that personally. That's just me. I mean, if you want to get into more of your issues with the Proud Boys as a militia, that's something. But him telling a militia to stand back and stand by sounds like proper presidential behavior. So for everyone watching who remembers what January 6th was, I say, we don't have to go back. Let's not go back. We're not going back. It's time to turn the page. Shut up! And if that was a bridge to our review, well, there is a place in our campaign for you. Oh my God. If that was a bridge too far for you, we're turning the page on this current administration. Bro. Go ahead. I can't. We aren't going back. This is a blatant dog whistle. She's calling him a fucking Nazi, a KKK racist. And this white man who inspired a Nazi take-over. Let's make it great again. We know what that means. Make America great again. We know what that means. And we are not going back to that. It's brilliant marketing. It's brilliant PR. Brainwashing. It's so dangerous, man. It's so dangerous. The ultimate double-speak, but just dangerous shit. Talk about inciting violence. That's another one of their favorite buzzwords. But what she's doing is inciting violence. That's what she's doing. Perhaps. I would have to mull that one over a bit to see if I agree. I think, well, do you think it's fair that maybe I won't put it on her specifically? But if in tandem, the entire corporate press, Joe Biden comes out. White supremacy is the biggest threat in America. Donald Trump is leading this blah, blah, blah. If what he did was inciting, then what they're doing is inciting. Yes. If that's our standard that we're going with now, which is double, like new speak also, that is inciting violence. If we're using that terminology, yes, and it could lead to something and what Donald Trump said earlier about the, he probably took a shot to the face because of their rhetoric. Yes, it's inciting in that way, but I still don't think that that's any more inciting than January 6th. Or maybe it is more, but it's still not, in my opinion. But, yeah. Carry on. You've got to get to the greatest hits. For country to stand for our democracy, to stand for rule of law. There's one more here, I think. And to end the chaos. And to end the approach that is about attacking the foundations of our democracy because you don't like the outcome. And be clear. On that point, Donald Trump, the candidate, has said in this election, there will be a bloodbath if this and the outcome of this election is not to his liking. I can't find my bloodbath clip. Let's not go back. I heard it. Let's chart, of course. Now, if I don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath for the whole, that's going to be the least of it. It's going to be a bloodbath for the country. That'll be the least of it. Now, if I don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath for the whole, that's going to be the least of it. It's going to be a bloodbath. The country, that'll be the least of it. No, if I don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath. It's going to be a bloodbath. It's going to be a bloodbath for the whole, that's going to be the least of it. It's going to be a bloodbath for the country. No, I don't get elected. It's going to be a bloodbath for the whole, that's going to be the least of it. It's going to be a bloodbath for the country. That'll be the least of it. Oh, yes. There will be blood. Nothing but the blood of Jesus. Have you or loved one been injured by some fucknuggets reckless driving, a tumble at your shitty job, or some other form of dumb shit outside of your control? 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Dave, do you have any thoughts on any, any final thoughts on that segment of all the greatest hits from January 6th to bloodbath to very fine people and all the things that have been debunked over and over and over again? Just that, that is still successful. That still works. That should be the takeaway. That we can't believe it, but that still works. That's how much stuff it didn't still get the clicks. After the last debate, Joe Biden said it multiple times in the last debate, the very fine people thing, and then he had the balls to post it on his Twitter or whoever runs his Twitter or in his Twitter, posted it on his Twitter that Donald Trump said very fine people on both sides. They don't care that you know it's false. They don't care that it's very verifiably, provably false. They're just going to say it because it doesn't matter and people will just be like, "Yeah, I remember that thing," and it happened because I haven't looked into it for more than five seconds because I'm dumb. People read the headline and dumb face. They read the headlines. They read the front page and then they print a retraction months later on page 25 and nobody sees it. That's what's going on. That's right. Now for this next one, we brought this up last week or I brought it up last maybe? Yeah, last week on the lackluster episode on Thursday or Friday or who cares? Don't listen to it. It was bad. I brought up the Donald Trump saying that he lost BioWhisker or Joe Biden won BioWhisker. That was brought up in this debate and let's see how Donald Trump handled it. Immigration here tonight. I do want to focus on this next issue to both of you because it really brings us, this end of focus, truth in these times that we're living in. Mr. President, for three and a half years after you lost the 2020 election, you repeatedly falsely claimed that you won many times saying you won in a landslide. In the past couple of weeks leading up to this debate, you have said, quote, you lost BioWhisker that you, quote, didn't quite make it, that you came up a little bit short. I said that. Are you now acknowledging that you lost in 2020? No, I don't acknowledge it at all. I said that sarcastically. You know that. We said, oh, we lost BioWhisker. That was said sarcastically. Look, there's so much proof. All you have to do is look at it and then he goes into how there's so much proof and you know that there's proof and blah, blah, blah, proof. So his response to, I guess there are, there must have been a couple other things because we just pointed out the loss by a whisker or whatever. But apparently he said, I would imagine those other things. He doesn't seem to remember saying them, but he definitely said at least the loss by a whisker thing. Apparently he said it sarcastically, Dave. Is there a way to, did you, have you heard the clip, the loss by a whisker clip? Yes, I did hear that. Did it sound sarcastic to you? It didn't sound sarcastic, but I think what he's trying to say is like, well, look, dude, he did lose. Was it stolen from him? I'd say. Oh, I don't know. I wish. I don't know what happened. Anyway, go on. I mean, you, he did lose the election, but it was stolen. So like both things are kind of true, but he should have never, he should have worded that better. That's, that's my take on it. I mean, yeah, at the end of the day, they came up with more votes. There was more pieces of paper than Zebite on it, so you lost, bro. Let's see. I mean, honestly, we had millions of more votes than we did in the first election. We did great in the first one we won, and I was told, we got 63 million votes in the first election. I was told that if we got 60, 63 million votes, same number, there's no way we can be defeated. I got 10 or 12 million votes more than that, more than anybody had ever gotten. We got the most votes of anybody, of any sitting president in history, and he beat us by a whisker, and it was a terrible thing. They used COVID-19. Okay, sarcastic? I don't know, why is my camera frozen? Hmm, because why wouldn't it be? Why would things just work? So Trump lost by a whisker. Let's go back to that clip. I did like, I found it amusing because Donald Trump goes on this. We definitely didn't lose. We definitely didn't lose by a whisker. I was being sarcastic thing. And he, I liked the moderator's response. All of these pieces of video, I didn't detect the sarcasm lost by a whisker. We didn't quite make it. And we should just point out here as a clarification, and you know this, you and your allies, 60 cases, in front of many judges, many of them are Republican. No judge looked at it. So I like how he's fact checking whether or not Donald Trump was, which I guess is not that dissimilar to what I just did, but he didn't detect any sarcasm. So as a debate moderator, it seems like not the place to fact check Donald Trump's sarcasm or his vocal inflections that might make you lean one way or the other. But yeah, I thought it was, I thought it was amusing. Well, but don't forget, I mean, and as we should have probably said this in the beginning, as if, I mean, I'm sure your audience is aware, but ABC is an affiliate of Disney, which is, you know, they don't want that Epstein list to come out. So just keep that in the back of their mind, back your mind all the whole time. Yeah, even if you believe that Donald Trump's going to release the Epstein thing, which I do not, at least he said it though. He said, I'll think about it. He said, I'll think about talking to my advisors on whether or not I'll take a look at it. I'll take a look at it better than better than Kamala Harris, better than not taking a look at it. Sure. Yeah. Next one, Kamala Harris has some strong words about Donald Trump. If you thought the last gaslighting wasn't gaslighting enough, I want your thoughts on this one. I'm going to tell you that I have traveled the world as Vice President of the United States and world leaders are laughing at Donald Trump. I have talked with military leaders, some of whom work with you and they say you're a disgrace. And when you also keep in mind, at the beginning of this, she was like, you're going to hear a lot of the old tired playbook, you're going to hear name calling, you're going to hear insults. You're going to hear all this guy's normal tactics. This guy is a disgrace. He's a buffoon, like he's not taken seriously by anybody, but like she completely is doing the thing that she set him up to do. And he's not, he didn't attack her on her looks or her character or her personality. He attacked, well, character a little bit, but yeah, he's mostly sticking to the thing, which I think he probably could have done better on that too, but yeah, the world is laughing at Donald Trump. While Kamala Harris is currently the sitting vice president and we just watched video last week of Vladimir Putin, physically laughing when brought when Kamala Harris's name was brought up as the future leader of the United States, Putin and the entire audience knew when he said that he supported her, that it was a joke. But everybody's laughing at Donald Trump. We saw her a week, an end two weeks ago, talking to, you know, before large audiences like, oh, I need your help in 2024. And now she's on speaking like Madonna when she was going through her British phase, like over enunciating everything like this presidential right here is just not, it's just so, it's so phony. I can't with it. Yeah. Yeah, it was a little John Megan, the stallion last week, but this week it's, oh, you are just everybody's laughing at you and not taking you seriously enough. Right. All the general, all the military guys I talked to and world leaders I talked to, they think you're a joke. Mm hmm. It's great. And also, I don't remember what Trump's responses to this will look a little bit, but this should be another easy one. Everybody's laughing at you. Like that's a hit on your ego, bro. That should be an easy one to be like, I saw, if you're paying attention to the stuff, I saw your whole Beyonce show, I saw the, the no Beyonce and the, the lack of support and that it was just a, it was a circus that you guys were doing over there. Nobody was elected democratically and you're concerned about January six being the overthrow of democracy. You were not elected democratically. You just had a circus. Everybody's laughing at you should have been much easier. Ock, in this way, in a presidential debate and deny what over and over again are court cases you have lost because you did in fact lose that election. It leads one to believe that perhaps we do not have in the candidate to my right, the temperament or, or the ability to not be confused about fact. That's deeply troubling and the American people deserve better. I'll give you one minute to respond, Mr. President. Let me just tell you about world leaders. Victor Orban, one of the most respected men, they call him a strong man. He's a, he's a tough person, smart, prime minister of Hungary. Good guy. They said, why is the whole woman blowing up three years ago? It wasn't. Why is it blowing up? He said, because you need Trump back as president. They were afraid of him. China was afraid and I don't like to use the word afraid, but I'm just quoting him. China was afraid of him, North Korea was afraid of him. You positive? What's going on? Yeah, go ahead. So in my head, what he did right then was he's telling the truth. Oh, my, my friends, my people, the people that I talked to or they come to me and they say, Oh, China is afraid of you. So he says it because it was said to him and probably is true. But then immediately went, Oh man, when my friend president, she hears this. He's going to be pissed. So I got to like correct that and go, okay, not afraid because like we're friends, but like, you know, it's just and also he's not attacking her at all. She just attacked him directly and he's going to, no, I'm not bad. I'm great. Everybody says I'm great. When she just said, everybody says, you suck. He's like, no, they say I'm good. Instead of bro, look in the mirror, you're Kamala Harris, everybody said you suck long before you got to this point. Everybody said you suck when you were running for president four years ago. They said you suck. Your own party said you suck. But instead he's like, no, I'm great because everybody thinks so. With North Korea, by the way, he said Russia was afraid of him. I ended the Nord Stream two pipeline and Biden put it back on day one. But he ended the XL pipeline, the XL pipeline. You got taunts on that, Dave? I want to know what he meant by that. Yeah. And also I need a date on when that shit blew up on that. Let me just check that out. Here. Jamie, look at that. Shit up. Yeah. I didn't know, I don't know that much about the pipelines and know that I thought that that happened under, like it blew up under Biden. Yeah. Did. So Trump stopped it. I don't know much about it to weigh in. I'm only here to weigh in on what I understand, which isn't a lot. Wow, Dave looks that shit up. Keep cruising. I will move on to, um, well, there was a, the biggest, um, my biggest beef with Trump was the Israel discussion. You saw the Israel discussion, right, Dave? It was basically them both fighting over, no, I support Israel more, no, I support Israel more. No, you, you're not a real Israeli or a real Palestinian or like, they're just pandering on both sides on this topic. And I don't like it, but there's not a clear winner in the Israel debate between the two. Uh, Kamala is a little bit more in favor of her pro palate, hardcore pro Palestine slash pro Hamas supporters who are like rage quitting the party that she wants to support, but she also has to keep up the, uh, I'm pro Israel side of things. So I feel like she had the, the better stance on that cause Donald Trump is just like, no, you're bad and I'm pro Israel. So that's kind of a toss up because obviously Kamala is probably going to be worse on war no matter what the war is. And she's going to handle it worse. So Donald Trump being pro Israel and, uh, just let's give them everything that they want to fight their war is not ideal in any stretch of the imagination. And I'll close to a disqualifier, but if we're deciding between the two, I still think on war in general, Donald Trump is the clear choice. I would, uh, tend to agree with you, bro. And by the way, that was, uh, September 26th, 2022. So yeah, just two years away from when they went at pipeline, called it one, um, killed itself. Yeah. Um, yeah, so I don't know what he was talking to in regards to that. I am curious. What were we talking about right before that though? Sorry. Uh, Israel, you talking about Israel, right? Yes. And the, and the wars. So, uh, and yeah, who would be better on that? Thank you. Um, so I think, man, and this is, again, we got to do some like big boy decision making here and like maybe do some calculations, but it feels to me like one, he might press some things. She'll press nothing. So the establishment will want to continue both conflicts, be the most reckless under her administration, whereas he might have a little bit of sway here and there, though I do feel like he is going to be friendlier towards Netanyahu and the state of Israel. So like he'll probably not the same. Like if they're in the room with Netanyahu, they would both be kissing his feet or whatever. Um, but if the leader of Hamas walked in, um, Kamala might be the one to be also like, oh, I, I wasn't actually kissing his feet. Like that's what we're dealing with here. Nobody's good. Yeah. Yeah. That's probably it. Um, though I'll say, this is what I said to those guys on the Christian podcast the other night. It's like, well, if Donald Trump, if we have two wars and Trump would end one of them, isn't that I know that that's not perfect, right? Isn't that way better? Less people will die. Yeah. Right. Neither of them are going to have an impact on a ceasefire in Israel, I would imagine. Um, Donald Trump will in Ukraine, especially with Kennedy's help and, um, Kamala will not. So yes, he is the winner in that sense. Mm. Um, now, uh, the next one is the, I didn't know she was black thing that, uh, I think that I think he also handled this poorly, I'll just say race and politics in this country. Mr. President, you recently said a vice president Harris quote, I didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black and now she wants to be known as black. Well, my God. I want to ask a bigger picture question here tonight. Why do you believe it's appropriate to weigh in on the racial identity of your opponent? I don't. And I don't care. I don't care what she is. I don't care, uh, you make a big deal out of something I couldn't care less. Whatever she wants to be is okay with me. But those were your words. So I'm asking, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, all I can say is I read. I don't know. Not black. I don't know what I said. That she put out. Not that. And I love it. I love how he says it. And then I read that she was black. And that's okay. Either one was okay. That's up. That's up. But now, um, I suspect that, uh, well, Donald Trump, basically just. I'm trying to talk about Iran. I'm trying to talk about Valerie Jarrett wrote the Iran deal. You've told me this 300 times. Do you know that a, that's what my tweet was about. I know. You've explained this literally. I thought the bitch was white. God. Damn it. I thought the bitch was white. Fuck. I love her. Yep, um, so that was basically Donald Trump's answer. Uh, there's a lot better ways to answer this. And once again, he's not wrong. This is just a bad answer. The answer should have been something like she said she was Indian. She was the first Indian Senator, Indian Indian Indian, while it was politically expedient for her. I don't care about race. You guys cared about race so much that you called her the first Indian Senator. And then you called her the first black vice president. And now you're calling her the first black female presidential candidate in the running. Like that, but all he could say was, um, I don't, I don't care where she, I don't know what I said. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. That's your thing. I don't care. Throw. Come on. This is another example of how this is staged though, because how many questions do they ask in total six or seven the whole night? And one of them is, dude, you were on a show like recently where you said this one thing about your opponent. How do you respond? Like, if you're going to do that, that's so like minutia of the details. You obviously just want to hear him respond to that. That's the goal. And he should know that they're definitely going to do that. Definitely going to do that. But like if this were a real debate, you, you should come out there. David Meurer should go, uh, Madam vice president, you just said that this man was a Russian asset and tried to take over the country and he's a racist Nazi. How did you shake his hand when you came out of here and said, have a good debate? Like, that would be a great question to ask. But nobody will ask that. They'll just make him squirm over this. It's just, it's very sad. It is very sad. And it's, uh, I would say that it's nobody's fault, but it's everybody's fault in this entire exchange. It is Kamala's fault for being worthless and everybody catering to her. It's everybody catering to her's fault for it sucking because they're catering to somebody who's worthless. It's down Trump's fault for not insisting or at least making a little bit of a stink over it. Once again, being in enemy territory with enemy enemies being the very objective moderators. But, uh, you know, if he chooses to do that, then he chooses to be criticized for how it pays off. And in this next one, I think it was possibly Trump's worst moment when he was asked about healthcare, which you mentioned earlier, Dave. President Trump, this is now your third time running for president. You have long vowed to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare. You have failed to accomplish that. You now say you're going to keep Obamacare, quote, unless we can do something much better. Last month you said, quote, we're working on it. So tonight, nine years after first started running. So again, just these guys are the third, they're the referee who's playing a role in there. Like she made up, she made it a point to make sure that the American people knew that he had a plan and he failed at it. Yeah. They didn't say anything like that to her. And she's been the president, the vice president for the past three and a half years. Yeah. Like that's just, it's little subtle things like that. Getcha. Yeah, it's not fair, but it's also another thing that should be expected that they're not going to be fair. And they're, that doesn't change the fact that he doesn't have an answer to this question. That is, if, if Kamala wasn't there, this is a perfectly legitimate question. And yeah, it should be asked. Do you have a plan and can you tell us what it is? Obamacare was lousy healthcare. Always was, it's not very good today. And what I said, that if we come up with something and we are working on things, we're going to do it and we're going to replace it. But remember this, I inherited Obamacare because Democrats wouldn't change it. They wouldn't vote for it. They were unanimous. They wouldn't vote to change it. If they would have done that, we would have had a much better plan than Obamacare. I mean, we give Kamala shit, in fairness, we give Kamala shit for saying the same thing over and over again, but in different ways. He does it too. And he's doing it right now. Like they did this and they did that and we would have done it, but they did that, but they did it and they did it. And then they did it. Like he's filibustering just as much as she is right now. But the Democrats came up, they wouldn't vote for it. I had a choice to make when I was president. Do I save it and make it as good as it can be? Or do I let it rot? And I felt I had an obligation, even though politically it would have been good to just let it rot and let it go away. I decided and I told my people, the top people, and they're very good people. I have a lot of good people in that administration. We read about the bad ones. We had some real bad ones too. And so do they. They have a really bad ones. Oh my God. Because they don't get rid of them. But let me just explain. Please, please do. Do I save it and make it as good as it can be or do I let it rot? And I saved it. It was bad, but it was worse before, but it's bad. And I had the decision to save it or let it rot. But I could have let it rot, but that would have been politically expedient for me. But I chose to save it just because and that's a good thing. The right thing, but it's still never going to be great and it's too expensive for people. And what we will do is we're looking at different plans. If we can come up with a plan that's going to cost our people, our population, less money and be better health care than Obamacare, then I would absolutely do it. But until then, I'd run it as good as it can be run. So no, I don't have a plan. That's what you're saying. We could have a plan. We might have a plan. The plan was bad or it was good, and now it's bad or it's good. If I get in, it's good. If they get in, it's bad. It's going to be bad. I could have let it rot. But it could be good. I could have saved it. I can save it, but I don't want to save it because it's bad. Good God. Man, that already the worst answer of the night as far as Donald Trump goes, but here's the rest. Just a yes or no, you still do not have a plan. I have concepts of a plan. I'm not president right now. But if the weakest answer I've ever heard Donald Trump give is just the tone in his voice. I've never even heard that tone out of Donald Trump. I don't know. I've got concepts of a plan. I'm not president right now. I've never heard him be that I don't know. I've never heard him say I don't know before. I can understand not giving away your plans on some stuff. I also would think you go and he should know that that just sounds like you're being dismissive though. I know part of a plan. He sounds like plans. I'm not president. Shut up. Shut up. But you're asking to be president and what we're asking is when you're president, what's your plan? Well, I don't have a plan because I'm not president yet. I can just say I have a plan. It's fine. I did that the rest of this time. It's fine. He could have just made this a perfect opportunity to just rebuke progressive policy and just say that this is not what the government should be here to do and look after 10 years. What is it delivered? Nothing. It's cost you all this money. It's forced you to do things. It's forced people into shitty insurance pools like it. That would have been great. You know, you could have taken two minutes on that man, but instead, no, it was bad. I could have made it worse. I decided to fix it. Oh, my God, don't don't don't don't have own something. Oh, I'm president. So I guess I'll know, you know, right. I figured out when I get there, it's fine. I mean, Kamala is no different. She's gonna figure it out when she gets there, but I'm sure she thinks it's fine now because she's currently in the White House. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like Dave, in your defense, when you said that you think that Kamala won, I watched this last night and I pulled up just clips of things that I found interesting. It was just unbiased. I wasn't looking to make it seem as though anybody was doing better. I feel like that's been pretty clear this entire time, but the things that Kamala said were stupid. She had a lot of stupid things, but it was a lot of word salad. It was a lot of just meandering around and I wasn't setting out to get more clips of one or the other, but there's more clips of Donald Trump that I have than Kamala Harris. So maybe that's just because I was more interested in what Donald Trump had to say than what Kamala Harris had to say, but I didn't realize I had so many more of Donald Trump because we are now to closing statements where Kamala Harris undoubtedly will give word salad. And I know that while I was watching the debate the first time, I was definitely live tweeting the entire time and I pointed out many, many times where it was clear that Kamala Harris had just run out of notes, run out of things to say. It's not that interesting to bring up on the podcast because it's kind of just the same thing over and over again. And she just trails off in her thing, but it's nothing that notable. It's just clear that she doesn't have something to say. So I think that's worth mentioning before we get into closing statements that Kamala Harris did a lot of Kamala Harris thing, but it's kind of like when we saw Donald Trump go up against Joe Biden and you expect expected Joe Biden's Joe Biden to be Joe Biden literally collapsing on the stage, which he did on many other stages. He never did that. So we were always like, oh, he didn't die. So he did fine. It's kind of the same with Kamala Harris. Like she didn't, she didn't fall flat on her face. Donald Trump got some good jabs in. She got some nothing burgers in, but there wasn't that much to talk about with Kamala Harris. And I think that is the best thing that she's got going for right now. If she can keep people from talking about her, that is her best chance because every time something happens that is noteworthy, it's not good. It's always just Kamala Harris had some dumb shit again. So yeah, I guess if I have recommendations for Kamala Harris, Laylow, you didn't fall on your face and that's about it. So yeah, Kamala Harris is not that noteworthy just in general in life. So when she speaks, unless she puts her foot in her mouth, as she did a few times, she might win Dave. Are you still in the camp of Kamala Harris one so far? I think that out of all the ways you can gain points for a debate, I think she has a sport. Yeah, yeah. And all the ways of public opinion, whatever, yeah, I think that she came out on top of that event. Like it only helped her, it didn't help Trump. Sure. It might have. I might be the one and only person who was watching that debate and was like, it might be good enough, but it wasn't swaying me away from voting for Kamala in any way. It was swaying me off of my couch to vote or swaying me from doing a right-in vote. And I'm still not sure what I'm probably going to vote. It's just whether or not I'll vote for Trump or a right-in. Are you vote for Trump, Dave? Are you settled? I'll tell you what I'm not doing. I'm not going to the polls to write anybody in, including Ron Paul. I just think that's- I live in a small town. So going to the polls is not nearly as big of an ask for me. Yeah. But we've already talked about what do you really even get for voting for Trump or Kamala in certainly a swing state. But what the hell do you get by writing anybody's name in even the great Ron Paul? Like what? Who cares? I just wanted to stay home. Yeah. You know what I mean? I would stay home and go, "There's no one worth voting for." Yep. And you have a platform so you could literally say that. Don't vote today. It's not worth your time. Fuck that. A platform where I could write in somebody, take a picture of it and at least say, "See? This is all stupid." I know. It's a stupid libertarian mindset. It's a stupid, just anti-establishment mindset, but yes. Sometimes that's satisfying enough for me. I don't know. Again, if my polls were in Delaware, I feel like it would be more of an ask for me to go to the polls and I would probably opt to stay home if I was not voting for Donald Trump. I can walk to my polling place. They know me there. I don't even have to show ID, no big whoop. But yeah. Nobody does, Dave. Come on. It's all good. It is your guide to the racist. Yeah. No, if I vote, yeah, I won't write somebody in, but we're all looking for a protest vote. We're all looking for a way to say, "Fuck you." So if that's the way that you feel best saying, "Fuck you," then yeah, write in somebody cool. Spike Cohen. Is it Spike Cohen? No. No. Well, write in Spike Cohen or Dave Smith this year because they were both cowards and didn't run. If one of them ran and then bailed or ran and then didn't get the nomination, I could see writing them in. But I'm not going to vote for a fucking coward like Spike Cohen or Dave Smith. Now there is these closing statements that we have left and that will, well, we're going to have to get Harry Sisson's take after it, but this is pretty much it. And I think you've heard tonight two very different visions for our country. Not really. One that is focused on the future, and the other that is focused on the past. And an attempt to take us backward. Racism, equality. But we're not going back. And I do believe that the American people know we all have so much more in common than what separates us, and we can chart a new way forward. But a vision of that includes having a plan, understanding the aspirations, the dreams, the hopes. There it is. Of the American people. Oh, all of those four. Why I intend to. Hopes to. All of them. The whole thesaurus. For this one. It's a big moment. It's a big moment. It's a big moment. Investing in small businesses in new families in what we can do around protecting seniors. What we can do that is about giving. She's saying nothing. She's saying nothing in a way that will appease most general people who just walk in off the street and see this woman saying, hope and change in Obama. And remember things, but we're moving forward. Lying to us. Well, the idiot next door doesn't know what to say. Okay. Fine. Like I'm a little bit upset with that. But you're just fucking lying to me. Oh, we care about your family. We care about your jobs, your small businesses. Fuck you. You lying seaward. Hardworking folks of break and bringing down the cost of living. I believe in what we can do together. She believes in it. That is about sustaining America's standing. Also this this. She did this throughout. I heard somebody point out. I don't remember who, but this. It's almost like she's going for a MLK moment because she says like, I trust that this and this and this and this. I trust that that. That and that and that and that. I trust like. I believe in this. It's always like, I have a dream that such and such like she's trying to sound wise because she's got this list. I know what I'm talking about and you know, because I have this list. She's going for something inspiring, but it just feels like complete and utter bullshit. In the world and ensuring that we have the respect that we so rightly deserve including respecting our military and ensuring we have the most lethal fighting force in the world. But again, I'm sure there's a lot of Democrats, the old school anti-war Democrats or even the new school ones like Hassan Piker who was pissed off at the interview. I'm sure they love that you're. This is another parroting the right, but not even I don't know what to think anymore. She's not parroting Donald Trump's stance on war, but she's like, we need the most lead or maybe kind of need the most lethal fighting force in the world. We need to be deadly, the deadliest. It's Dick Cheney talk right there and I'm curious to see where this goes, where the formerly supposed anti-war party like the party of the hippies is now the Dick Cheney pro neo-cons all around the most deadly fighting force in the world. Party, how do you, how do you square that circle? Will this be detrimental to them or do they just go entirely like the mask is off? We are the war party now. That's it. Well, I don't think that the military industrial complex cares which party it is. In fact, they're very fluid, gender fluid with it. So I think it's as still as it always has been for a hundred years about being the lone superpower on the planet and, you know, in our relationship with Russia and Russia's relationship with Germany and China, like that's still what this is about. And this guy or this lady represents the people that want to continue to dominate and use subterfuge and blow up pipelines and ship factories or whatever else they're talking about in order to like fuck these people out of doing business with other countries. But man, yeah, if that's what she represents, maybe he represents something a little bit better. That'd be great. Yeah. I will be a president that will protect our fundamental rights and freedoms, including the right of a woman to make decisions about her own body and not have her government tell her what to do. I'll tell you, I started my career as a prosecutor. I was a DA. I was an attorney general, a United States senator, and now vice president. I've only had one client before that though. Were you were you an escort? I have to know. We're going to gloss over that part, Dave. It doesn't matter. And I'll tell you, as a prosecutor, I never asked a victim. There's also a lot of crossover, I would imagine, in the prosecution, just saying. Or a witness, are you a Republican or a Democrat? The only thing I ever asked them, "Are you okay?" And that kind of president we need right now. Someone who cares about you and is not putting themselves first, I tend to be a president for all Americans and focus on what we can do over the next 10 and 20 years to build back up our country by investing right now in you, the American people. Vice president Harris, thank you, president. Any thoughts on that, Dave, before we get to trumps, other than complete nut or vague bullshit. I love you. Please, please, nestle yourself under my wing, children. I care about you and nobody else does. Welcome to Walmart. I love you. Welcome to Walmart. I love you. Stop telling me about love and joy and what my government can do for me. Stop. Oh, I hate it so much. I hate her so much and what she represents. And just the way, again, just the way that it's the opposite. It's not like she can't articulate a point she's trying to make, it's that she is well rehearsed, is well rehearsed to lie. Well rehearsed to lie about things, things that she has affected in the opposite way. Lady, you have affected my small business. I will never forget it. Fuck you forever. I just, oh, and here I come, mama, let us save you and your small business and you need some love right now. Yeah. So it comes down to Donald Trump. I don't think he's completely honest. I think he's more honest. I think that she, and especially when they push the, all Trump did was lie. We heard Jill Biden, good job. You answered all the questions. I wonder if Kamala got that from Doug after this. You answered all the questions. What did Donald Trump do? Lie. Lie. That's the thing. It's like, so that sets them up for, if you say lie, then you're just parroting them and you're just a copycat. Meanwhile, she is lying out her ass this entire time, all the way down to very fine people bullshit. And now it's, I love you and it's great and I'm not a liar like him. It's a, it's a, not a dumb strategy in the world of politics to just be like, whatever this guy says is a lie. And what I say is the truth. And this guy is weird. It's effective. It's retarded, but it is effective. And she has said, I feel like Donald Trump has said a lot of things that he doesn't know that much about and Kamala Harris has said nothing except for bullshit. Like she has lied the entire time. Donald Trump might not be that educated on the things that he's trying to talk about, but all she's doing is making shit up. So you decide. Liar or dumb guy who's less of a liar, Trump. So she just started by saying she's going to do this. She's going to do that. She's going to do all these wonderful things. Why hasn't she done it? She's been there for three and a half years. They said this should have been like answer number one, start there. Then she has to defend that or go up against that with every single answer that she gives. And every single time she says some dumb shit that, you know, is what is, anything that she says at all about how the government is being run wrong, he could have thrown back in her face if he had made that point two hours ago. A half years to fix the border. They've had three and a half years to create jobs and all the things we talked about. Why hasn't she done it? She should leave right now, go down to that beautiful White House, go to the Capitol, get everyone together and do the things you want to do, but you haven't done it and you won't do it because you believe in things that the American people don't believe in. You believe in things like we're not going to frack. We're not going to take fossil fuel. We're not going to do things. It's a pro. You couldn't even get the closing statement ready. Like she believes in things that the American people don't like these bad things. You know, like we're not going to do this, like it's not even presented in a way like he thought it through. It's like we're not going to frack. That's not a that's not a thing. Yeah, I don't know, just say that she does not want America to be energy independent. Right. Save that. That's easy. She doesn't want America to be great again. She doesn't want what we had under my administration. She doesn't want these things. She wants what we have now. Is it better like he should bring back to is it better now or was it better under my administration? Yes, we had COVID, but COVID aside, is it better or worse now? And if we had COVID under their administration, do you think it would be better than when I had dealt with COVID or like, I don't know, there's just a lot of ways that you could do this. And he's just like, she's bad. Everything she says is bad. She says fracking is bad. And that's bad. Things that are going to make this country strong, whether you like it or not, Germany tried that. And within one year, they were back to building normal energy plants. We're not ready for it. We can't sacrifice our country for the sake of bad vision. But I just asked one simple question. Why didn't she do it? We're a failing nation. We're a nation that's in serious decline. We're being left at all over the world, all over the world they left. I know the leaders very well, they're coming to see me. They call me. We're left at. That's the response. The question earlier that he forgot to answer, we're not a leader. We don't have any idea what's going on. We have wars going on in the Middle East. We have wars going on with Russia and Ukraine. We're going to end up in a third world war and it'll be a war like no other because of nuclear weapons, the power of weaponry. I rebuilt our entire military because of the tone of this whole debate, which was so obviously tilted, that's just being easy. He does, and again, this is something, bro, all we talk about is on the verge of World War III. They didn't talk about that at all. That wasn't brought up at all. The moderators didn't bring that up at all. In his closing statement, he sounds... Israel, they asked about Russia, but they asked it, "What are you going to do about that over there? Not about the implications of that?" Right, right. Anytime they would talk about it, "Oh, do you want them to win? Don't you want them to win?" They're not focusing on what is important, which is not your conflict or your interests or who you want to win. You're on the verge of World War III. In fact, dude, they talk about the border, "Oh, the crisis on the border." It's like, "Wait a second. You just said that like, okay, so you're acknowledging there's a crisis on the border. What do you want to happen? What do you want to do about the crisis on the border?" The World War III is even a whole lot bigger of a deal than that, but nobody brought it up. Well, Donald Trump brought it up twice, but he brought it up in passing on something about immigration. He was like, "Oh, in World War III, we'll get into that later." This is probably him being like, "We didn't get into that. I didn't have a chance to make that point, and I'm going to shove it in here at the end, so it feels scattered. It feels like just a throwaway thought where he's like, "Oh, and also, World War III." So to a normal person, they're just hearing it sounds like fear-mongering, but there's a legitimate conversation to be had there. It sounds the same with like the eating dogs thing. It's like when you just throw it out there and don't have a chance to get into it, which isn't entirely his fault because the moderator should have brought it up, but when you just throw that shit out there without any explanation, it sounds like you're just fear-mongering. A lot of it away to the Taliban. She gave it to Afghanistan what these people have done to our country, and maybe toughest of all is allowing millions of people to come into our country, many of them are criminals, and they're destroying our country. The worst president, the worst vice president in the history of our country. Bad, good immigration, the end. That was it. That's it. I want to believe, Dave. I do. I want to believe. Well, who won? Who do you think won the debate now, though? Change your mind, or are you still on the tip that he won? Well, from the lay person's perspective, again, I would say the person who had the least things that I felt like were noteworthy, probably won. Just from a sports standpoint, I know that when I was watching it, I was much more swayed by Trump, but that's because, again, Trump is saying things that are based on things that are legitimate things. He's just not getting any deeper than that. So when I hear those buzzwords about things that I know exist, I'm like, yeah, bro, get into that. He didn't get into it. He just said it. And I think for a commoner who doesn't pay an unhealthy closeness to a amount of focus on the news, he sounds like a crazy person sometimes, and she sounds like a dumb person sometimes. And it's actually the opposite, she's a crazy person, he's a dumb person. So I don't know, I don't know. You're pretty on with that, bro, and I'll also say the public, at large, American voting populace at large, this is their event. If they're going to pay attention to politics, it's when you give us a debate, prime time, David and your ABC. If not that, they're not paying attention. So that's why I said that she won, but man, yeah, I hope that's not the deciding factor. I don't think that it will be, but yeah, if he could have just gotten in there and been a little bit more detailed, but luckily, bro, I don't know, the Libertarian Party did what, 40 of these debates. Chase was the guy who could do the debate the best, said the most things, was the most well rehearsed, and look what you got. You know, again, it's always the deciding factor on who votes for you, it might be the deciding factor on who gets you the most points in the current sport, which is kind of what we're dealing with right now, but as far as support, it might, I don't know, I also don't think that there's anything that Kamala Harris said that's going to take any Trump supporter and convert them into a Kamala Harris supporter or even a say at Homer. I think that if anything, a Trump supporter or somebody who's on the fence heard Kamala Harris rambling nonsense and was like, at least I'll consider it because we cannot have that because the nothing that she puts forward is so alarmingly, glaringly obvious that Donald Trump's saying just nuggets of truth here and there is leaps and bounds ahead of what she is offering, which is a child tax credit is so far, all I know that she definitely stands on also abortion, but not all the abortion, I don't know, they're both, you know, somewhere in the middle on that one, there's not clear lines because she's copying him and he's copying her. It's the most like social media influenced election ever to where TikTok and Taylor Swift giving her Kamala Harris endorsement, shocking, shocking. That is what's going to determine who gets the most votes. It has nothing to do with policy, it has nothing to do with who's more equipped to lead. I think that Donald Trump's certainly more equipped to lead and better on policy, but also he is going along with some of Kamala's narrative and she's going along with some of his and they kind of make this a nice word salad melding pot in the middle that we're supposed to decide on and yeah, if I had a gun to my head, the gun would not go off. I would vote for Trump, yes, if you're saying otherwise you're lying, but yeah, it's politics baby. It's cult shit, it's team sports and they want me really badly on their team. It feels like it feels like the Democrats really want me badly on Trump's team. It seems like Trump really wants me badly on his team. I'm getting closer and this was the closest that I've been so far just because he gave me a couple nuggets of things that the bar was set so low from Biden from former Trump from former Kamala Harris, the bar was set so low on any nuggets of truth being dropped and he dropped a couple nuggets of truth. So that got my attention. I agree with you and I just my only the only thing I disagree with is our view of the American public because I think that you and I hope you're right by the way because I think I wasn't talking about them I was talking about me. They're all going to. Okay. I think the general public is going to be swayed not at all by this for the most part. Oh, okay. See, I think you're right. People have their hard camps, but correct me if I'm wrong, but I think if anything from this debate, if anybody is swayed, independence will be moved closer to Kamala Harris, not Trump, even though he was saying more truthful things. I think he came across more reckless and a little bit just to them, well, too crazy or too brash, whereas she seemed very professional and had, you know, that's what I think will win the day. The professionalism and the dignity of the office, um, not substance do that because he's not good at that either. Like, I want him to be brash and she can be too professional if she wants to. Her's feels fake him trying to professional feels fake too. Bro, what do you think? The independent voter wants more, a brash guy or the professionalism. That's what I'm asking you. I know. I know you want him to be brash and I do. I'm not your common independent voter here. Right. Right. If there are like, yeah, if they're people, they're, I mean, those who, those are the people who decide every time the same people go to for Obama, voted for Trump. So they'll decide again, these people, the wiggle room will go, I don't know if we can go fully that far or that far, whatever. So I, I think after that debate, if anybody won over some of those people, she did it. Yeah. Uh, perhaps, unfortunately, yeah, unfortunately, if at all, but, um, we do have one more thing that we got to do. We got to get Harry Sisson's take on this because as we know that Harry Sisson is the best voice of reason when it comes to who won the debate versus Donald Trump and Kamala Harris. And I don't think we're going to do an after party day, Dave. I think we're going to hold the freak of the weeks until next week. Sorry, y'all. But, uh, you've got pushing two and a half hours on this and we did, I would say definitely the most thorough breakdown that I've seen on the internet, um, other than the people who are like sitting there live fact checking it as it was happening. We're not that big a nerds, but we will give you the fun, the, the highlights and we'll do it and we'll over stare welcome. Um, and then we will give you Harry Sisson, but because we're not doing freak of the week this week, moving it's next week, um, I think that this deserves the setup. This program was made possible, but viewers like you, they get what you're f*ckin deserve. No one could stop us from enjoying this, so enjoy it. Stop crying. That's right. It's freak of the week where we look at the freakiest people on the internet and, uh, you can get more of this at patreon.com/thesystemisdown, where we judge people based on, um, uh, their, their interactions with reality, mostly, and their, their physical presentation and whatever, whatever you judge people on, um, this week we'll have one submission and it is Harry Sisson, the great Harry Sisson with his, uh, his take on this debate. So the presidential debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump just concluded and my immediate reaction is Kamala Harris wiped the floor with him. I think this picture, like, perfectly sums up what took place tonight. I mean, then here's the, here's the difference. Like he looks at that and calls that a win when she's smugly putting her hand under her chin. Do it. Like, I mean, that's, I would say that's probably what, uh, lost Hillary Clinton, the election was her smugness because that's all that you can do against Donald Trump. You have to put on air of confidence against the most confident man in the world, no matter how dumb he is, he is the most confident man in the world. Even if he doesn't know what he's talking about, he will tell you to your face confidently that he doesn't know what he's talking about in so many words. And that's what he's doing there. And she is smugly putting her hand under her chin. Dave, do you think that, uh, this is, this is all we need to see to know that Kamala Harris wiped the floor with Donald Trump? I think, uh, the, Harry Sisson is doing his primary function here, which is to give everybody who saw this, who is on this side, the letting them know it's okay and that she's not a super bitch by putting her hand on her chin for 10 seconds like that. No, no, no. That's a sign that she's really kicking ass. No, that's cool. Y'all. Yeah. That's cool. Love that shit. Yeah. That's what, that's what he's doing. Great job. America, along with Kamala Harris was laughing at Donald Trump. He was spiraling. He made no sense. He didn't lay out any policy and he took the bait every single time. All he did was lie tonight. He lied about pets being even in Ohio. For that to be the first thing you bring up now, I don't, I, I know that there are a lot of people who are saying it is happening. There are a lot of people saying that it isn't happening and Donald Trump should have had more resources to cite if he was going to say that it was happening than the TV. But oh, we didn't even get into that, his response to when he was called out for the, they said that they weren't eating cats in Ohio and he said the TV, which was a really bad one too. But for that to be the first thing that Harry system brings up, whether or not it is true, it hasn't been cut like fully, completely confirmed by the mainstream media. So from his perspective, still debatable, at least, but he's like, no, he lied about that because Kamala Harris said he lied about that. It just seems, seems ballsy to be like, see, he lied about everything, including this one thing that I'm not entirely sure yet. What? And on women's reproductive rights, he sounded more extreme than ever. He defended what happened on January 6th and he still says he didn't lose the 2020 election. This guy is off his rocker. Kamala Harris perfectly prosecuted the case against Donald Trump tonight. I think we all saw that. And for any undecided American who watched that debate tonight, I don't think they're undecided anymore. I don't know how anybody from either side of the aisle could look at Donald Trump's performance and think that he's fit to serve. He is clearly not and Kamala Harris clearly is. So that's your stance, right, Dave? No, I changed my mind. I feel like Donald Trump really had to hop the floor. Yeah, he really crushed it tonight. And Magga and this guy's a faggot. Yeah? Yeah. You really, you keep bringing him back in my life. I would just, I would block this guy's account and not listen to anything he has to say. But no, he gets to do the job, like the cleanup job, because he won't get fact-checked. Nobody's going to fact-check Harry Sis, and he just gets to come out and go, "Oh, my God, did you see the lies that he chose?" Let's fact-check Harry Sis in real quick. Okay. Springfield, Ohio resident here for 30 years, okay, been here my entire life. And since we are trending right now all over social media and people are wanting answers from the residents, I figured I would chime in, might be in a popular opinion that people want to hear. Yes, we have a Haitian Creole immigration issue. In the last couple years, they have dropped off 20 to 30,000 immigrants the last year to six months has been insane. They are dropping them off by the busload. When I say busload, I mean the Greyhound busload for they are taking them to the gas stations and dropping them off by the busload. But the big thing that I wanted to address have I personally seen any videos or public reports of the Haitian Creole community stealing cats and dogs and eating them. No. The video that is going viral of the woman who killed and ate the cat is not from Springfield. Do I know for a fact and have I seen with my own eyes, okay, a Haitian Creole immigrant killing ducks? Yes. They are killing ducks at our reservoir and at our parks. They are chopping their heads off and they are cooking them up. They are also gutting animals up at the reservoir and roasting them, goats, pigs, that kind of thing, which obviously isn't illegal. But the way that they're doing it and leaving things is just ridiculous. They have completely trashed our reservoir. I mean overloaded with trash, it's really sad. There are 20 to 30 tents out there that they are sleeping in and again. So I also have videos of people talking about Haitians and Voodoo and stuff and that's their religion. There are a lot of different things that you can get into. This might be the one. Let's get a little bit more. Teenager. There is also a rest record so you can look up to the United States. It's probably not true. As a teenager and I want to talk about these recent comments about the Haitians in Springfield, Ohio. First I want to say my father and I are now estranged but I did know him in my very, very young years and when he immigrated he was one person and they weren't sending thousands of Haitians in one area. He wasn't eating people's pets and he didn't practice Voodoo but he did say that most of the island, the majority of the island does practice Voodoo. The reason they eat cats is for two reasons. Number one is survival. This is the poorest country in the western hemisphere. You can't just go to a food bank like you can here or just go to McDonald's and get some free or cheap food unless of course there's a Christian missionary there. People in the United States have a really hard time imagining that type of thing but it is true. Second, they do do animal sacrifices for their religion, Voodoo. They make these animal sacrifices to these gods for different reasons. You can do your own research on this. Yep, you can, you can. So that's the stuff that I had lined up for whether or not that that's happening but yeah allegedly you can look at the arrest records and all that stuff. Now back to the main question Dave I got to ask you, are you still there Dave? Dave you're frozen. Am I gone or are you gone? Oh Dave, sweet, sweet Dave. the system. Everyone's a victim. Doesn't matter if you're black or white I hate you all. (dramatic music) [ Silence ]
